HomeMy WebLinkAboutTR-11/20/1992 TRUSTEES
John M. Bredemeyer, III, President
Albert J. Krupski, Jr., Vice President
Henry P. Smith
John B. Tuthill
William G. Albertson
Telephone (516) 765-1892
Fax (516) 765-1823
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
SUPERVISOR
SCOTT L. HARRIS
Town Hall
53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
Southold. New York 11971
MINUTES
PRESENT WERE:
NOVEMBER 20~ 1992
John M. Bredemeyer, III, President
Albert J. Krupski, Vice President
Henry P. Smith, Trustee
William G. Albertson, Trustee
John L. Tuthill, Trustee
Diane J. Herbert, Clerk
THE MEETING WAS CALLED TO ORDER
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
NEXT TRUSTEE BOARD MEETING: Thursday, December 17, 1992 at 8
PM
WORKSESSION: 6:00 pm TRUSTEE BREDE~E~ER moved to approve
the meeting, secondedmby TRUSTEE TUTHILL. ALL AYES.
NEXT FIELD INSPECTION: Thursday, December 10, 1992 at 8 pm
TRUSTEE SMITH moved to approve, TRUSTEE ALBE~TSON second.
APPROVE MINUTES: The October 22, 1992 minutes were approved by
TRUSTEE SMITH, seconded by TRUSTEE TUTHILL.
I. MONTHLY REPORT: Trustee monthly report for October 1992: A
check for $~!,~92215 was forwarded to the Supervisor*s Office for
the General Fund.
II. PUBLIC NOTICES: Public notices are posted on the Town
Clerk's Bulletins Board for review.
III. AMENDMENTS/WAIVERS/CHANGES:
1. En-.Consul.tants on behalf of Neil McGoldrick requests
waiver to construct a swimming pool and deck landward of
existing bulkheads. Located Harbor Farms, New Suffolk Ave.
Mattituck. SCTM 9i16-4-16.4. Motion to approve made by
TRUSTEE BREDE~YER, second byTRUSTEEALBERTSON. ALL AYES.
2. En-Consult~nts on behalf of Roger Vorce requests an
amendment received Nov. 11, 1992 to Wetland Permit ~2201
received Mar. 23, 1986 to extend the westerly return 16'
Board of TrusTees 2 November 20, 1992
landward and backfill with 10 c.y. of Clean sand to be trucked
in and to replace additional 1 ton stone along the return and
westerly 135' section of bulkheading. Locate~ROW off BridGe
Lane, Cutchogue. SCTM ~72-1-t.8. Motion to approve made by
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYE~, second by TRUSTEE SMIT~. ALL AYES.
3. Eh-Consultants on behalf of Joseph Frazzitta to amend
application to extend that the bulkheading will he removed and
replaced, rather than a new structure built in front. Located
Inlet Way, Southold. SCTM %92-1-6. Motion to approve made by
TRUSTEE BRED~, second by TRUSTEE ALBERTSON. ALL AYES.
4. En-Consultants on behalf of Erika Swimmer to extend permit
to construct a single family dwelling, sanitary system with
retaining wall, well and bluestone (or similar) driveway.
Approx. 800 c.y. of fill to be trucked in to raise grade, for
5 years. Located Orchard Lane, Southold. SCT~ ~90-4-I2.
Motion to approve an extension, ending April 25, 1994 for i
year, was made by TRUSTEE SMITH, second by TRUSTEE KRU~SKI.
This is the final extension. ALT. AYES.
IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING IN THE MATTER OF THE FOLLOWING
APPLICATIONS FOR PER~I.TS UNDER THE WETLANDS ORDINANCE OF THE
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD. I HAVE AN AFFIDAVIT OF PUBLICATION FROM THE
SUFFOLK TIHES AND AN AFFIDAVIT OF PUBLICATION FROM THE LONG
ISLAND TRAVELER-WATCHMAN. PERTINENT CORRES~ONDENCEMAY BE READ
PRIOR TO ASKING FOR COMb~2TrS FRO~ THE PL~LIC.
PLEASE KEEP YOUR CO~H~ENTS ORGANIZED AND BRIEF
FIVE (5) MINUTES OR LESSr IF POSSIBLE
7:26 P.M. - IN the matter of %he application of Peconic Land
Trust on behalf of Plock Family Joint Ventures to construc, t
211' of rock revetment and 357'I bulkheading replacing existing
bulkheading within 18", and 1700 c.y. of dredging and filling
to construct boat basin mariculture area, remove approx.
195' of pier, deck over approx. 240' of pier, fill approx.
15,000 s.f. of vernal area and improve or create 15,000 s.f. of
wetland habitat. Located off North Bayview Road, Southold.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Do I have anyone here to speak on behalf of
this hearing? Would anyone like to comment?
TIM CAULFIELD: If there are any other questions, I would be
glad to help. I have been working on this for quite som~ time
and the PlOck Family has been very patient in wo=king through
a plan which we think is very generous, and we seem to have come
quite a long way. There s~ems to be no probtem with any of the
other regulatory agencies so we can proceed.
TRUSTEE SMITH: Excuse me, this is the last inspection we made,
and this is what we all agreed on to do.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: At the last scoping session?
TRUSTEE SMITH:: Yes.
Board of Trustees 3 November 20, 1992
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: Has the planning board, started SEQRA
process yet? They were going to take the lead and scoping.
MR. CAULFIELD: The haven't, they requested and expandedpart
three, which is still not in. As soon as they get that they can
issue the process..
TRUSTEEi BREDEMEYER: I'm only asking from the prospective of
proper processing if the board should properly come to a final
vote ini the matter, only because we had decided to defer lead
agency ~tatus for the Planning Board and said we would send them
any additional scoping sessions or help them. It might create
a processing problem if we went into a final vote on the matter
a-head of participating scoping. I don't know how the board
will feSl about this.
TRUSTEEi SMITH: I feel that I have no problem, with this
application. Let them have one less hurdle to go through. We
were working on this thing for two years.
TRUSTEEi BREDE/~EYER: We don't have to, because we're not lead
agency so we can go ahead with our approval. We already told
them our interest in not taking the lead.
TRUSTEEiKRUPSKI: Well we might not approve. We haven't voted
yet.
MR. CAULFIELD: On the issue of Trustees jurisdiction, and the
endlessi conflict that is created between the Trustees rights and
the Trustees obligation and other agencies, From the
philosophical standpoint it would seem to me that the Trustees
should do what the Trustees will do. Including the SEQRA of
course if you were lead agency. I'd hate to see deference to
another body, and you can vote any which way you want, but when
it comes to the Trustees rights it seems to me that they're the
Trustees'rights.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: You're absolutely right, but in defense of Jay,
I think he just wants to make sure it moves in an orderly
fashion~ and we don't fall apart at the end.
TRUSTEE BREDE~ER: This project has very little Town Trustee
land so that part of the decision making was there since a sub
division has a lot more to do with. the plaru~ing process.
MR. CAULFIELD: I. apologize. Don't take what I'm saying
personally.
TRUSTR~ BREDEF~--SrER: No, no I didn't. I know exactly what you're
saying. This board really wanted to take lead but for the fact
we felt that our staffing was short, enough tbst we would only be
hurting a very beneficial project by taking lead selfishly.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Is there any other co~m~ent on this project?
Does this Board have any comments?
TRUSTEEi SMITH: No, I make a motion we close the public hearing.
TRUSTEE' ALBERT$ON: Second. ALL AYES.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Can we have a motion on a vote on tP~s?
TRUSTEE SMITH: I make a motion we approve the application of
the Peconic Land Trust on behalf of the Plock Family Joint
Ventures.
TRUSTEEI ALBERTSON: Second. ALL AYES.
7:31 P.M. In the matter of the application of Harley Arnold on
behalf of David Tuthili requests to construct a 4' X 40' catwalk
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with 3' X 16' ramp and 6' X 20' float as Shown on survey.
Located 2350 Deephole Drive, Mattituck. SCT~ 9123-4-7.
TRUSTE~ KRUPSKI: Do I have any comment from anyone out there?
Either~in favor or against the pro3ect? Does the Board have any
commemJts? '
TRUSTE~ SMITH: I have none, its just a straight forward dock,
float and ramp.
TRUST. E~KRU~SKI: Do t have a motion to close the hearing?
TRUSTEE S~LITH: I make a motion we close the hearing.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI:
TRUSTE~ TUTHILL:
TRUSTEE' KRUPSKI:
TRUSTEE S~IITH:
application.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI:
TRUSTEE ALBERTSON:
Do I have a second?
Second. ALL AYES.
Do I have a motion on the project?
I'll make a motion that we approve the
Do we have a second?
Second. ALL AYES.
7:34 P.M. - In the matter of Tessler Associates on behalf of
Joseph ~antione requests to construct a fixed pier structume
4' X 10~0' and 14' ramp and (2) 6~ X 20' docks. Located 54275
Stillw~teF Ave. Cutchogue. SCTM ~137-3-1.
TRUST~KRUPSKI: Do I have anyone here to speak in favor.or
agains~ this project? I believe last month we requested that it
be staked. I did not see any stakes out there. I was out there
this e~ening. From what i can see there's a mooring right at
the en~ of this where it would end up fr'ommy estimation.
BecauSe it wasn't staked or marked at all I'm afraid we're
gonna have to recess this.
MR. MANTIONE: You say you have a request f'or staking? You
mean staking out in the water?
TRUSTEE KR~PSKI: No, the staking at the end of the dock, so we
know how far out the dock will go.
~R. MANTIONE: I don't believe an~ request has come to my
house nor to Mr. Tessler's, because I spoke to him this
morning. I haven't received anything from you. I saw it in the
newspaper when it was on for tonight so I could be here.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Thank you, for speaking up.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: Here's a letter in the file. I thought we
made contact.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Last month when we all went out on field
inspection and we looked at it and its one of those cases where
it's almost impossible to tell standing from the top of the
bank, how far the structure will go. We know it will be
significantly further than what the neigb2~orS have. If it was
similar to what the neighbors had, we wouldn't request this. But
since it is going to be significantly further out, that's why we
wanted the stakes so that we would know exactly Where the end of
the project will be.
MR. MA~TIONE: My property happens to curve in as compared to
the neighbors property. So I really need a little more room to
get out as far as they are and by using the restricted rule we
did take the depth soundings and its not really that I wante~to
go out that far, but I have to go out that far 'cause when its
low tide my boats gorma be on the ground.
Board of Trustees 5 November 20, 1992
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Do you have a mooring now?
MR. ~LANTIONE: No. that's not mymooring out there. One of
those moorings you see out there are not even used. The mooring
that's farthest out was not even used this year. There's no
number on the mooring. Is that required?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Yes, it is.
TRUSTEE TUTHILL: Could you put a sta~e out there now?
MR. MANTIONE: It's a little cold, and I don't have a boat to
get out there right now.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: A stake or a colored Clorox bottle, or
something to put a short string on so that we will know.
Our next field inspection is set for Dec. 10th. Maybe you
could have it set for that day and we'll be out ~nere to take a
look at it.
5IR. MANTIONE: When you say a stake what exactly do you m~an?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: When there's a long structure like that you
have to have a stake or small buoy placed there at the end, then
we can come and take a look and we can use our judgement°
TRUSTEE TUTHILL: We're not objecting to it, it's just that we
have to know where it is.
MR. MANTIONE: If I had the request, I would have responded to
it.
TRUSTEE TUTHILL: Get it out there by next meeting and we'll be
able to handle it.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I'm glad you came to the meeting aud spoke up,
because it's a lot better to talk then.
TRUSTEE SMITH: I make a motion we close the hearing, and recess
it one month.
TRUSTEE TUTHILL: Second. ALL AYES.
&:40 P.M. - In the matter of Samuels & Stee ~lman on behalf of
Harry Hohn to construct new stairs and catwalk, from existing
bulkhead to beach. Located 8980 Nassau Point Road, Cutchogue~
SCTM ~118-6-1 7 1.3.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Is there anyone here who wishes to speak on
behalf of the applicant? I went to take a look at it and it's a
very minor project and its really stmaight forward. I have no
problem with it.
TRUSTEE SMITH: I make a motion we close the public hearing.
TRUSTER TUTHILL: Second. ALI. AYES.
TRUSTEE S~ITH: I make a motion we approve the application/
TRUSTEE TUTHILL: Second. ALL A~S.
7:42 P.M. - In the matter of Costello Marine on behalf of
Joseph Beradino to install approx. 107' of rock revetment
with (2) 15' returns, backfill void area With. 32 yards of fill
and vegetate with Rosa Rugosa and beach grass. Located 62825
North road, Greenport. SCT~ #40-1-11.1.
TRUSTEE KRU~SKI: Is there anyone who would like to speak on
this application? Is there anyone here who would like to
co~,~nt on this? I'll take motion to Close the hearing.
TRUSTEE SMITH: Second. ALL AYES
TRUSTEE SMITH: I'll make a motion we approve the application.
TRUSTEE TUTHILL: Second. ALL AYES.
Board of Trustees 6 November 20, 1992
7:44 P~.M. Eh-Consultants on behalf of Mattituck Fishing
/-Station request to remove and replace inkind/inpiace 360
+/' 1.f. of timber bulkhead and dredge up to 10' off bulkhead to
maximum depth 4' below MLW. Approx. 86 c.y. of spoil wilt be
removed and used to backfill bulkheads. An existing 6' X 20'
section of fixed walkway and rip-rap adjacent to launching ramp
will be removed and replaced. The existing 16' X 20' launching
ramp be resurfaced with concrete. Add (5) 2.5' X 16' fingers
and (3) 2.5' X 16' fingers to sections of existing main floats
as Shown on plan. A drain gutter has been added to the upper
sections of the bulkhead has also been indicated as sand and
gravel with an upper layer of stone. The above all in
accordance with request of the DEC and Trustees as per revised
survey of October 6, 1992. Located Mattituck Creek. SCT~
~9~,4-23.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Is there anyone here who would like to comment
on_this application? Does the Board have any comments?
TRUSTEE B~EMEYER: They had the verbal dmscription but. hadn't
preciously concluded the fact that the picture representation
was making the ramp go to 20' X 60'. I don't know where the 16'
ramp which is about i0' X 48' long is in fact and they've
applied and it's on the diagram to go to 20' X 60' to give the
additional depth of water and the width to handle the drainage.
TRUSTE~ K~PSKI: Did we request to grading behind the bulkhead
to be away from the bulkhead?
TRUSTEE BREDES~YE~: Yes, it was incorporated in and to stand
behind the bulkhead, the final diagram.
TRUSTEE K~UPSKI: The description matches tha san~and gravel
backfill of the bulkhead.
TRUSTEE BRED~: t don~t believe they' went into the exact
reading. I guess we can ask for it.
TRUSTEE K~UPSKI: We have to. BeCause I don't really see it on
the diagram. Does anyone want to make a motion?
TRUSTEE SMITH: I'll make a motion thatwe approve this
appliCation, but that we add that they would contain the water
runoff into a drywetl.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Anyone second.
TRUSTEE BREDES~YER: Second. ALL AYES.
7:46 P.M. - In the matter of Costella Marine on behalf, of
Frank Monteleone requests a grandfather permit to reconstruct-
existing 16' return and install a 16' return extension, and to
place l0 c.y. of backfill. Located Blue Marlin Drive, Southold,
Shelter Island Sound. SCTM $57-1-30.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Would anyone like to comment?
JOHN COSTELLO: The existing sheathing on the bulkhead is an
area that's all decayed. The bulkhead framing is still intact.
TRUSTEE BRE~EMETER: I did the field inspection and I ~viously
went to the wrong property.
MR. COSTELLO: On the return it was dug-in at the bank and some
of the sheathing was undermined.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: I'll have to indicate to the clerk to ask
for a full permit on this and it must have been an error made
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when I was in the field because I was in the wrong location, so
it may well be worthy to grandfather.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: To grandfather we'd have to amend it also to
include the addition.
TRUSTEE SMIT~: Was this property just purchased?
MR. COSTELLO: Yes, last year.
TRUSTEE BREDEM~FYER: I have no problem recommending this.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Do I have a second on that motion?
TRUSTEE ALBERTSON: Second. ALL AYES.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Do I have a motion on the grandfather
application?
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: To approve the grandfather and the attached
amendment.
TRUSTEE SMITH: So moved.
TRUSTEE ALBERTSON: Second. ALL AYES.
7:49 P.Mo - In the matter of Dra~tin Gobic to construct (3)
1/2' X 50' catwalk, 32" X 20" aluminum ramp, 6' X 20' floating
dock and 2 pile support dolphins.. Located 2125 Hobart Road,
Southold, Town Creek. SCTM 364-3-14.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Is there anyone here who wishes to coherent on
this application?
FRANK MAZZAFERRO: The adjoining property belongs to mir
mother-in-law and they have a notarized statement from her
signed b~ attorneys that she is opposed to this.
TRUSTEE Kt%uPsKI: Could I have that to read aloud? Could we
have a copy of this for our file?
MR. MAZZAFARRO: Yes.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: "To Whom It May Concern, this is dated
November 20, i~92, the undersigned Catherine Mazzafarro and
Dorothy Mazzafarro as attorneys in fact for Helen Young owner
of the property on Hobart Road, $outhotdNY adjacent to the side
of the proposed dock, do hereby object to the s'~ject
application." And it's signed and notarized and will be placed
in the file. Yes sir?
GEOt~GE LAW: I live on the opposite side. I also want to object.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Is there anyone else who wants to speak?
JO~N COSTELLO: I am the agent representin~ Mr. ~obic. The
attention of this is the old zoning matter, wheneas this
gentleman and his family own propert~ across the street, And
they have purchased and paid taxes on a right-of-way to the
water enabling them to utilize the water. When the water from
the high water mark out, evidently we know who owns that and who
controls that. This Board does. This dock as pr6posed is a
minimum in width for this access way. The ramp isthe minimum
width and as to other applications made prior tonight~ a 6'
float was designed. No additional mooring piles off the float.
It is the minimum for safety reasons. DEC wants to know, if we
could reduce the float to a 4' float, it becomes very unstabie
and then they suggest possibly a "T" would stabilize it again,
then we're protruding over the property lines, objective
property lines, even though it's T~stee bottem. Trustees have
this jurisdiction. This~entleman au4 his familyhave been
paying taxes on that tan~, there is no attempt to incumber
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either the adjoining property owners or the neighbors, or the
people across the creek. They're looking for the. m~n~mum, leng~r/~
and it just so happens that this is one of the pieces of
property similar to 'this, at the end of the dead end road. But
there are several pieces of property like th½s throughout the
Town and it's unfortunate it wasn't bigger. This does not
restrict and will not restrict either of the adjoining property
owners from utilizing their watez in the future.
TRUSTEE TUTHILL: You say he has the right of way down there, is
this the same width as the right of way.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Inches smaller.
TRUSTEE TUT~ILL: Could we hear why the people object to it?
TRUSTEE SMIT~: It's been a policy of this board in the past
that we require anybody who puts a dock out, that they stay
within 15' on their property so as not to go across on your
neighbors, or in front of the neighbors property or anything
like that, and I don't think when this property was meant to
have a dock the way its proposed here, I would say that we're
not denying this gentleman the use of getting to the water,
that's basically what a 3 1/2' right of way is, just to get to
the water, that doesn't give him any right to hang ~ver on his
neighbors property with his boats and docks. I think, it's
wrong, and I grant you he{s a tax payer, but these other people
are tax payers too, why should they have someone else's
structure in front of their house?
~R. COSTELLO: Just to contradict you, Hendr, this is not
hanging over over anyone's property in Southold Town, Trustees
bottom. If t~is gentleman had more land, I'm sure .... This access
gives him access way to the water. WoUld you like [~m to build
a longer permanent dock, or narrower? You could build a
permanent dock narrower, but a float, I don't know.
TRUSTEE TUTHILL: Maybe what Henry is saying is if he p~ts a
boat along side his dock it might hang over,
MR. COSTELLO: I can't keep the boat from swinging around the
circle either. That's why we're applyin~ to the Trustee for
this permission.
TRUSTEE F~RUPSKI: What's it like on either neighbors side.. Like
John T~thill said, he had a ~ood question for both the
neighbors, what's the objection?
MR. MAZZAFARRO: I don't know what my mother-in-laws objection
is, but I don't think it's appropriate to put a dock there.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: What's your objection sir?
MR. LAW: My Question is, how is he gonna maintain this
things? He's got t2' of property} and 3 1/2' of dock. what's he
gonna do, fly the stuff out there?
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: He has access to mean highwater, which is
ordinary right.
~. LAW: I don't feel that I should have to look out m5~ window
and look at this abortion sitting out there, all year, while ~r.
Gobic is ~od 0nly knows where. He can't s~e itfromhis
house, and we have to ~ook at it. I don~t believe its right.
MR. COSTELLO: I disagree with this man's opinion, and. John
asked a good question to see what the objection was and %hat's
the main objection, and that's what we wanted to find out.
Board of Trustees 9 November 20, 1992
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: My ~nderstan ing that the right to wharf
out is the right that's seceded in the common law, and runs
similarly to the right to access~he water, and it has a basis
in the riparian rights and riveri~e rights and there's a
consequence the Board would be wrong or ill advised to deny an
application, but they could mod~fya proposal such that it would
provide for a reasoDable right of access. And at least in my
own mind I guess i"d be concerned maybe for a docking on either
side if it would eliminate or minimize another riparian right,
the right of navigation fits into this and both neighbors not
indicated that they've been disenfranchised or had their ~ights
minimized, they have the right to approach the force drawn
perpendicularly which is also one of those rights and at least
as far as I'm concerned I'd have to be honest and say that i
think the Board would be very ill advised to deny someone the
right to wharf out in the creek. This Board ba~ always stood
for allowing its citizens the minimum use of' their water ways
consistent with being environmental going along with the board,
trying to do things the right way. Regardless of how it looks
to deny this would be a gross disenfranchisement. Mind. you, I
wouldn't be against modifying it a little bit, it runs counter
to ou~mandate, and our' historic right to regtulate, i~ we don~t
regulate reasonably. And there's a rule of reason involved in
this thing, and I'd hate to see something like this go to the
courts and having a judge s~pplant or direct his views over this
Board's prerogatives.
TRUSTEE SMIT~: Well it's been a polic¥ of this Board, and we
made policy years ago, that any dock would be. held inward 15' o~
a neilghbors property line.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: We have made exceptions in the past.
TRUS~R~ BREDEMEYER: I like the idea of a fixed dock, myself,
only from a stand point tha.t they would intend to minimize
problems, possibly. But what's reasonable?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I do have one question. Are there docks on
either side? No? So we're not talking ~Dout safety or
navigational problem.
TRUSTEE TUTHILL: It's 3ust a case of how it looks. Your point
is how it might look.
MR. LAW: That's right.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Do I have any other comment?
MR. SAMUELSr I agree with Jay's position. I've got a file full
of documented cases on riparian rights and access to water. I
appreciate his problems with neighbors and in some cases, it
depends on how it's uretty tough call to turn down the man, he
does have access and with tha~ goes th~ riparian rights.
TRUSTEE S~IT~: Yes, he does have access to 3 1/2'.
MR. SAMUELS: Well, that's the endless problem~ and that's been
in court too.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Any other comment?
MR. ~AZZAFERRO: Is this gonna be a hundred feet long?
TRUSTEE K~UPSKI: The application is for a 50' catwalk, a 20'
rsmp and a 2~' ~toat for a total of 90' from wherever it begins,
hopefully above mean high water. Truste~ Bredeme~er: The Board
viewed it for that when we did the field inspection and does not
Board of Trustees 10 November 20, 1992
believe that the structure impedes ordinary navigation. We have
an occasion where they might have mis- supplied an inspection
and the structure goes to close to the channel, we have required
them to be altered. That remains the responsibility of the
Board to always provide for ordinary navigation. We did not se~
that as a problem in our field inspection.
MR. MAZZAFERRO: You don't think that it's that close?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: No, on the application, the fixed portion goes
to mean tow water, and only the 20' ramp and 20' float extend
out pass mean low water, and that 40~ out. Any other c~m,ent?
TRUSTEE SMITH: I haven't seen a stake out there to mark it,
what the total distance will be. I want to see a stake out
there. We're asking this gentleman to put a stake out there,
why not him?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Any one else on the board feel that a stake
would be necessary?
TRUSTEE BREDF/4E~ER: If one Board member wants it, I guess we
should all re~est.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I will entertain a motion to close the
hearing.
TRUSTEE SMIT~: So moved.
TRUSTEE TUTHILL: Second. ALL AYES.
TRUSTEE K~UPSKi: Then we will not vote on this until we have a
stake put out. FLr. Costello could you have the most seaward
portion of the dock staked for December 10. That will be our
next field inspection~
MR. COSTELLO: I will certainly try to make every attempt to
alleviate some of the concerns by using the smallest pilings we
have. Possibly with the butt end down so it will less~n it.
I'll leave the h~ndrails o~f and make- sure theTe aren't any
extra except on the ramp~
TRUSTEE BREDES~YER: John just as a question as a Board member,
is there flexibility from owner in terms of possibly going with
fixed structure or some alteration in plan, in other words, the
desire for a dock is it fixed in this plan that we're lo~king at
here?
MR° COSTELLO: If that so suits the Board then I~ll check with
the owner and find out if he would be will to do this.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I believe we will be voting on this then at
the next meeting. I'll make a motion we go off ~hlic Hearings.
TRUSTEE S~tTH: So moved.
TRUSTEE TUTHILL Second. ALL. AYES°
V. ASSESSMENTS/ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATIONS:
1. En-Consultants on. behalf of Lewis Edson to construct a
one-family dwelling, plus appurtenance all which will be at
least 75' from tidal wetland and therefore beyond T~astee
jurisdiction~ There will be clearing~ grading a~d landscaping
up to 25' beyond proposed improvements. A 58' naturally
vegetative buffer will be maintained except that Selective
pruning will occur to afford views of the marsh irom the house.
Located Linden Ave. Cutchogue.
TRUSTEE BREDEFfER: I move t~ Neg. Dec.
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TRUSTEE TUTHILL: Second. ALL AYES.
2. En-Consultants on behalf of Dr. Bennet J. Hess to replace
(within 18") 184 1.f. of existing timber bulkhead plus (2) 10'
returns. Approx. 150 c.y. of clean back~i]] will be trucked
in from upland. An existing 4' X 13' stairway will be removed
and replaced. Located Peconic Bay Blvd. Laurel.
TRUSTEE B~F~EFiEYER: I move to Neg. Dec.
TRUSTEE SMITH: Second. ALL AYES.
3. En-Consultants on behalf of Roger Vorce to extend the
westerly return 16' landward and backfill with 10 c.y. of clean
sand to be trucked in and place additional 1 ton stone along the
return and westerly 135' section of buikheading.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I'd like to strike that last part "and
westerly 135' section of bulkhead", because that is really
misleading.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: I move to Neg. Dec.
TRUSTEE SMITH: I second. ALL AYES.
VI. RESOLUTIONS
1. Close scallop season early - Hallocks Bay - Vote at next
hearing.
VII. MOORINGS:
1. William C. Reimer, III requests mooring for a 24' inboard
with 100 lb. mushroom in Mattituck Creek. Located end of
Raccoon Road, Mattituck.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: Motion to approve.
TRUSTEE ALBERTSON: Second. ALL AYES.
2. Gerald Weir request a mooring for a 20' outboard in Richmond.
Creek.
TRUSTEE SMITH: I motion to approve.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: Second. ALL AYES.
3. Getchell - requests waiver
TRUSTEE BRF~ESIEYE~: I move to approve.
TRUSTEE TUTHILL: Second. ALL AYES
TRUSTEE TUTHITJ.: I move to close the meeting.
TRUSTRR SMITH: Second. ALL AYES.
Meeting adjourned at 8:15 p.m.
Respectfully SubmittedBy:
Board of Trustees
Clerk
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November 20, 1992
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