HomeMy WebLinkAboutTR-05/22/1996.... Jim King P.O. Box 1179
Martin H. Garrell ~?d'g~%~7 Southold, New York 11971
Peter Wenczel - ~f ~]~ ~'x~c~;9 Telephone (5t6) 765-1892
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BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
MINI/TES
MAY 22. 1996
PRESENT WERE: Albert J. Krupski, Jr., President
· Job_n Holzapfe!, Vice-President
Peter E. Wenczel, Member
Martin H. Garreil, Member
James King, Member
Jill Doherty, Clerk
CALL MEETING TO ORDER
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
NEXT FIELD INSPECTION: Wed. June 19, 1996 ~ A.M.
NEXT TRUSTEE BOARD MEETING: Thursday, June 27, 1996 7P.M.
WORKSESSION: 6:00 p.m.
A motion was made by TRUSTEE KRUPSKI and seconded by TRUSTEE
HOLZAPFEL to set the above meetings. ALL AYES.
APPROVE MINUTES: Approve minutes of M_ARCH 27, APRIL 24, 1996 Regular
Meetings, and MARCH 13, 1996 soecial meeting.
A motion was.made by TRUSTEEW~-NCZEL and seconded by TRUSTEE KING to
approve the above minutes. .ALL AYES.
I. MONTHLY REPORT: The Trustees monthly report for APRIL 1996: A
check for 2,451.44 was fo~darded to the Supervisor's Office for the
General Fund.
II. PUBLIC NOTICES: Public Notices are posted on the Town Clerk's
Bulletin Board for review.
III. AMENDPr~NTS/WAIVERS/CHANGES:
t. Bruce g~derson on behalf of PEGGY F_ELLER~AND~kNNEWi-DENrequests
an amendment to permit $4489 to reduce the size of the house as noted
on survey dated April 1, 1996. Located South end of Majors Pond Road,
Orient. SCTM =26-2-39.t.
A motion was made by TRUSTEE GARRELL and seconded by TRUSTEE KING to
approve the amendment. AYES: Garrell, King, Krupski, Wenczei.
ABSTAIN: Holzapfe!.
2. J.M.O. Consulting on behalf of ~JGENE & A_N~ BURGER requests aD_
amendment to pe_rTait 01617 to remove platform and add three 6' X 16'
Board of Trustees 2 May 22, i996
~]~ats with pilings. Located 2515 Pine Tree Road, Cutchogue.
SCTM ~98-!-14.
A motion was made by TRUSTEE KRUPSKI and seconded by TRUSTEE
HOLZAPFEL to approve the above amendment. ALL AVES.
3. Eh-COnsultants on behalf of NICK ARONIADIS requests an amendment
to ~4476 to construct a 12' X 50' wood ramp over existing stone ramp,
as stone ramp is too uneven. Located 1090 Latham Lane, Orient. SCTM
~t5-9-!.6.
A motion was made by TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL and seconded by TRUSTEE
GARRELL to.deny without prejudice due to the fact that the applicant
started the project prior to permits granted. ALL AVES. Bay
Constable will be directed to issue a violation.
4. Richard Witzke on behalf of SILVANA CADEDDU requests an
amendment to permit ~4343 to install 15'X 23' deck on top of existing
ramp° Located 1380 Wiggins Lane, East Marion. SCTM ~35-5-23.
A motion was made by TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL and seconded by TRUSTEE
GARRELL to deny without prejudice due to the fact that the applicant
started the project prior to permits granted. ALL AYES. Bay Constable
will be directed to issue a violation.
5. Costello Marine on behalf of ROBERT SCHiSSEL requests an
amendment to pe~it ~4546 to add an 8' X i2' deck landward of the
bulkhead. Located 710 West Shore Road, Southold. SCTM ~80-1-46.
A motion was made by TRUSTRE WENCZEL and seconded by TRUST~R
HOLZAPFEL to deny without prejudice due to the fact that work was
already done. ALL AYES. Bay Constable will be directed to issue
violation.
6. Costello Marine on behalf of LOUIS M~ BACON request an amendment
to Permit ~4365 to add 4' X 4.5' cantilever platform and 32~' X 20'
ramp to attach to existing float. Located Robins Island. SCTM
9134-3-5.
A motion was made by TRUSTEE KRUPSKI and seconded by TRUSTEE
HOLZAPFEL to approve the amendment. ALL AYES.
7. Costello Marine on behalf of HELEN & ROBERT'RUST request an
amendment to add the~ following existing struCtures~ tothe Grandfather
Permit ~4238 that was granted in 1993 for !04' bulkhead; 120'
bulkhead, 5 1/2 X 50' walkway, 131' walkway with 13' X 32' deck, 8' X
24' float with a 3' X 16' ramp, 6' X 30' float with a 3' X 8' ramp, a
6' X 40' fixed dock with a 5' X 6' attached lower platform. Located
Wunneweta Road, Nassau Point, Cutchogue. SCTM ~1!1-14-34.
A motion was made by TRUSTEEKRUPSKI and seconded byTRUSTR. M
HOLZAPFEL to approve the amendment. ALL AYES.
8. Pat Moore on behalf of CRESCENT BEACH CONDOMINIUMASSOCIATION
requests an amendment to permit ~3780 to add 4' X 68' dock with a 4'
X 48' "T" a 3' X 10~ ramp, a 6' X 20' float, 7 piles on West side of
dock forming 7 slips for small boats. Existing ramp and float will be
used in new location. Located Maple Lane, East Marion.
SCTM ~38.1-!-22.
After discussion with Mrs. Moore, the application for amendment was
withdrawn and a full application will be submitted.
Board of Trustees 3 May 22, 1996
9. William Goggins on behalf of THOMAS TYRRR request to change the
name on Permit ~9-1-89-55-7-3 from Richard and Patricia Snow to
Thomas Tyree as Mr. Tyree is purchasing same. Located 1585 Long Creek
Drive, Southoid. SCTM ~1000-55-7-3.
A motion was made by TRUSTEE K~RUPSKI and seconded by TRUSTEE WENCZEL
to approve change. ALL AYES.
i0. Kevin McLaugh!in on behalf of VINCENT MANAGO requests an
amendment to permit ~4578 to move decking and 8' X 10' storage shed
to center of property as per drawing. Located 8225 Nassau Point Road,
Cutchogue. SCTM 9i18-4-10o
A motion was made by TRUSTEE KRUPSKI and seconded by TRUSTEE KING to
approve the amendment. ALL AYES.
11. JOHN J. SAMPIE~I requests a Waiver to extend the deck by adding
a 26' X 28' section. Located 1380 Bayberry Road, Cutchogue.
SCTM 9118-2-12.
A motion was made by TRUSTEE KRUPSKI and seconded by TRUSTEE WENCZEL
to grant waiver with turf under deck to be removed and suggest that a
non-turf buffer be placed behind bulkhead. ALL AYES.
12. John Blakely on behalf of SANDRA KIERSK¥ requests a waiver to
construct a 15' X 15' deck attached existing dwelling. Located Rogers
Road, Beixedon Estates, Southold. SCTM ~66-2-35.
A motion was made by TRUSTEE KRUPSKI and seconded by TRUSTEE
HOLZAPFEL to grant a waiver with turf to be removed under deck. As
per request of CAC, the Board will meet with applicant to discuss
perennials planted in high marsh. ALL AYES.
13. NASSAU POINT PROPERTY_ OWNERS ASSOCIatION request a waiver to
replace existing split rail fence with 2 to 3 foot boulders 5 to 6~
apart to keep the vehicles off the beach. Located Nassau Point Road,
Cutchogue. SCTM 104-8-8.1.
A motion was made by TRUSTER KRUPSKI and seconded by TRUSTEE KiNG to
grant waiver. ALL AYES.
14. EDWINiBERNHARDT requests an amendment to permit $2011 to add a
4' X 29' dock, a 4' X 14' ramp, a 6' X 32' float with pilings
attached to existing dock, ramp and float. Located 500 Koke Drive,
Southold. SCTM ~87-5-4.
After discussion with applicant a motion was made by TRUSTEE
HOLZAPFEL and seconded by TRUSTEE WENCZEL to table the amendment.
Applicant will submit, revised plans that reflect a smaller addition.
15. WILLIAM SCF~ENONE requests an amendment to permit ~4511 to make
the c~twalk 4' wide from 3' wide. Located Westphalia Road, Mattituck.
SCTM ~!i4-7-i1.3.
A motion was made by TRUSTEE GARRELL and TRUSTEE, HOLZA~FEL to approve
the amendmenu. ALL AYES.
16. Jack Foehrenbach on behalf of BLUE POINTS COMPANY request an
amendment to permit ~4276 to place floating trays at the end of the
existing dock. This area will encompass approx, a 30' X 64' area.
Located foot of Love Lane, Mattituck. SCTM ~!40-!-23.1.
A motion was made by TRUSTEE KRUPSKi and seconded by TRUSTEE KING to
approve amendment subject to BaB~ Constables comments. ALL AYES.
Board of Trustees 4 May 22, 1996
Applicant noted that they will give the Town 50,000.00
! to 2" oysters every year that trays are used.
Spoke to bay constable the next day: Trays not to be moze than
from edge of dock and not to interfere with navigation and suggest
that lights/ night markers be placed at the corners of trays.
IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING IN T~EMATTEROF THE FOLLOWING APPLICATIONS
FOR PERMITS UNDER THE WETLANDS ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN OF SOUT~OLD. I
HAVE AN AFFIDAVIT OF PUBLICATION FROM THE SUFFOLK TIMES. PERTINENT
CORRESPONDENCE MAY BE READ PRIOR TO ASKING FOR COMMENTS FROM THE
PUBLIC.
PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS ORGANIZED AND BRIEF: ~IVE (5) MINUTES OR LES$~ IF POSSIBLE
A motion was made by TRUSTEE GARRELL and seconded by TRUSTEE WENCZEL
to go off regular agenda and go onto public hearings. All ayes.
7:52 P.M. - In the matter of Proper-T Permit Services on behalf of
MICHAEL J. LEAHY requests a Wetland Pe~it to construct within 18" of
existing functional bulkhead, 113 1.f. of bulkhead and place approx.
15 c.y. of backfill. Located 2200 Hobart Ave., Southold SCTM %64-3-4.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Is there anyone here who wishes to speak on behalf
of this application? CAC comments are rec~m~end approval with the
condition that the non-turf buffer at the top edge of the bulkhead be
elevated 6" higher than the ground surface to allow runoff to
percolate into the ground. =~he Council also reco~Lends that the
bulkhead is not need. The bulkhead can be removed and the area graded
and stabilized wi~h plantings, is ~here any other concurrent in favor of
or against the application?
TRUSTEE GkRRELL: I saw it. I would, basically go with the CAC
co~,,,,ents. I have no problem with it.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: They are coming up at least. 6". They are coming up 8
to t0". The. existing grade should stay the same so it slopes.
TRUSTEE GARRELL: Move to close the hearing.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: Second. ALL AYES.
TRUSTEE GAR~ELL: Move to approve the application of MICHAEL LEAHY
with the stipulation that the grade remain the same to control ~unoff
and that there be a 10' non-turf
buffer on the inside of the bulkhead.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: Second. ALL AYES.
7:53 P.M. - In-the Eatter of En-Consu!tants on behalf of ARM3LNDO &
JACQUELINEGRASSI requests a Wetland Permit to remove 3 existing
timber groins and construct i - 40' t~er groin needed to prevent
further loss of beach as per drawing dated 5/17/96. Located: 4510
Peconic Bay Blvd., Laurel. SCTM %128-4-2!.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: is there anyone here who wishes tc speak in favor of
the application?
DIANE LA FE¥iERRE: We received recently, a memo of the Army Corp.
They reqllested us to revise the groin to show the low profile. We
have done that. I have copies for you. I have also submitted revised
plans showing the DEC reco~endation that the groin be shifted 20~ to
the west.
Board of Trustees 5 May 22, 1996
TRUSTEE Ki~UPSKI: Is it going to be the same angle as the neighbors
groins. This still shows perpendicular to the water. The neighbors
are at an angle.
D!~E LA FEVIERRE: We can follow the neighbors. O.K.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Is there any other comment either in favor of or
against? The original CAC comments are based on the March meeting.
Do you want to look at the proposed?
ALLAN CONNELL: I don't want to hold things up.
TRUSTEE ~_RUPSKI: What it is, we agreed that a low profile groin
identical to what the neighbors had would fit into that groin field.
ALLAN CONNELL: Our biggest concern is that ~nen we where there, we
didn't see an erosion problem ~here. We didn't see a major need for
it. A low profile groin is much better than what Was proposed.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Was there any thing here about pre-filling it.
DIANE LA FEVIERRE: The Dept. of State wanted us to pre~fiil it, but
the DEC wouldn't allow it. They gave us an admit no to filling waters
below, apparent high water.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: We won't mention it then. Any other co~m~Lent? Do I
have a motion to close the hearing?
TRUSTEE WENCZEL: So moved.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: I will make a motion to approve the amended
application showing a low profile parallel to the neighbors.
TRUSTEE KING: Second. ALL AYES.
7:56 P.M. - In the matter of Coste!to Marine on behalf of STANLEY J.
CIAPUTA requests a Wetland Permit and Coastal Erosion Permit to
install 200' of timber bulkhead to attach to neighbors proposed
bulkheads east and west and backfill with clean fill from approved
upland source. Located: 635 Soundview Ave., Southold. SCTM $50-2-7.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: This is similar in nature to the next public hearing
as they are adjacent. Is there any one here who would like to speak
in favor of this application.
JOHN COSTELLO: I just want to clarify that they are contiguous. They
will be built in a line connected. On the point where it favors
around from the northeasterly wind towards the west, it is proposed
to add stone. I would like to reserve time if there is any objection
to it.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Is there anyone else here who would like to speak in
favor of this application2 Anyone against the application?
TRUSTEE GARRELL: CAC comments?-
TRUSTEE K~UPSKI: Recormmended disapproval, because there is no need
shown. There is a letter from Dr. Robertie!io: i am the property
owner at 275 Soundview Ave. Extension...my neighbor is planning a
large bulkhead at the properties of Arcus and Ciaputa. The properties
are directly' east of mine. I have been advised by informed sources
that there is a strong possibility that the building of such a
bulkhead may have an adverse effect on the erosion of my property and
also effect my strip of breach. I have also been advised of my right
to interfere with the proposed plans of if such is the case. I would
appreciate the Board of Trustees looking into this matter and
advising me how to proceed. Sincerely, Dr. Robtertie!!o. Allan?
ALLAN CONNELL: We went up there, I guess the Arcus property, first
point we would like to make is that there are no bulkheads in that
area° We didn't see any severe erosion in that area.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: i will show you some pictures.
Board of Trustees 6 May 22, 1996
ALLAN CONNELL: We looked at the bluff face. It is stable. The whole
bluff face is stable. There are large boulders on the beach
dissipating energy. I think a bulkhead of this magnitude accelerate
erosion. It is going to cause scouring. It is going to have effects
on neighboring properties.. The CAC recommends that you disapprove.
TRUSTEE KRLrPSKI: Did you see this (picture). We went out on the first
inspection we said basically the same thing you did. it is fairly
stable. The second time we went out we took a look at things like
this that is pretty convincing. Yes, there is substantial loss.
ALLAN CONNELL: Look at the bluff face, it is stable.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKi: There is like a 6' elevation loss there.
ALLAN CONNELL: That doesn't mean you should build a structure just
because there is a structure on the beach. If the bluff is stah!e
what that bulkhead is going to do is going to protect that individual
property but those around it wi!.i suffer.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Those are our concerns. I think the Board will like
to see someone besides the Board to take a look at that. There are no
structures out there. We will table this.
JOHN COSTELLO: Number one Allan just admitted that there is only
slight amount of toe erosion. Toe erosion is what. starts the whole
cliff to eroded. That happens every where and any where. The simple
fact to the matter is is to think that that property in the future is
not going to erode...sma!! amoun~ of scouring in any in severe storm
conditions. That this first wave energy, the increased cost of
placing the rocks is anticipated so that is does not scour out the
neighboring properties. Let me tell you if nothing is done there the
neighbors in severe stoz,u conditions will have toe erosion. ~mnether
there is. anything there, including this property. These tb_ree parties
wish to maintain there propezties and as he says the cliff is stable
up above. One way to maintain that is'to keep the toe stable. That is
the way it has been for hundreds of years. You can vegetate that
cliff with native plants, they exist there now, only if you can
maintain that toe. It is the condition that these people want. The
other thing is the objection letter from the neighbor to west,
because of the shape of the land, he is probably going to be eroded
less than most of the parcels because of the locations. Further to
the west of that there has been several locations that people have
lost 10 or 15' in one stoz~a. Those conditions have not occurred
lately'. These three people are trying to anticipate and maintain
their property. As everybody is trying to do.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: We don't agree that there is erosion there and the
best way to stabilize the top of the bluff is from toe erosion. We
just want another menth tc take a look at it and'to ask the some
people in the State what they think about it, because there is no
other structure in that area. We have been there twice and. we still
want to go take a look at it again. It is not that we are saying no
but we are not saying yes either.
JOPLN COSTELLO: You know what the weather conditions are, I can't
forecast th~m and neither can you. It would be helpful that this can
been done prior ~he hurricane season. I don't know if there will be a
hurricane. I don't know if there will be a hurricane, if there is
not~ time is not a problem. If there is some severe erosion, to loose
and exacerbate some of that stable cliff.
TRUSTEE GARRELL: Job21 don't you get most. of the hammering in your
Winter storms a long that beach?
Board of Trustees 7 May 22, 1996
JOHN COSTELLO: You do get a wind switch on a hurricane. Hurricanes
aren't as bad as the Northeasterly storms. Hurricanes 'are mostly
rain damage.
TRUSTEE GARRELL: If you have a concern about toe erosion, you also
have a concern on that cliff about the erosion right on the top. To
me the top is...we suggested that someone should have a look at that
too.
JOHN COSTELLO: When you are involved with something like that it
starts at the toe. If you don't start at the toe, you are going to
have much more severe cases like this. You look at places like this
like the Montauk Lighthouse.
ALLAN CONNELL: I would agree with you on that. To stop erosion on the
bluff you have to control toe erosion. But you need to look at the
history of the site. That site is very stable. Yes, I admitted that
there was a little bit underneath one little area. There is no
sloughing of the bluff face. This has been going on for.years. To put
bulkhead there just because it is added protection, does not make
sense. Erosion on the coastal zone is a natural process. It is giving
and taking of sand. This areas is obviously is not a giving area. It
is stable.
TRUSTEE GARRELL: How long has that house been there? She said the
original structure dated back to around to 1815. Then it was bricked
over. The structure on top was a very old structure. If that is there
180 years, how much activity can there be. That was a question in my
mind too.
JOHN COSTELLO: I can tell you how much. In the same direction
there.., i believe in 1978 when we had severe rain storms and coastal
storms along that coast. At that time the previous owner, he
approached us at that time. He had. severe erosion, as did most of
that area. All the way to Horton Points Light~ Horton Points stairs
were missing. Those conditions come, those conditions go. That should
prevent someone from trying to protect' its property.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I will still make a motion to recess the hearing for
one month.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: Second. ALL .AYES.
7:56 P.M. - In the matter of Costello Marine on behalf of LUCIEN
ARCAS ~equests a Wetland Permit and Coastal Erosion Permit to install
a total of 200'+/- timber bulkhead in line with proposed bulkhead of
Ciaputa (-110' west of Ciaputa and 95' east of Ciaputa), 14' return
and a 16' return, aa~ored with rock reve~lent, 300 c.y. of clean
fill. Located Soundview Ave., Southo!d. SCTM 950-2-6 & 8.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I will make a motion to recess this hearLug for one
month.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: Second. ALL AYES.
8:10 P.M. - In the matter of J.M.O. Consulting on behalf of DR.
THOMAS J. MC DONAGH requests a Wetland Permit to construct a 10' X
60' X 2' earthsn berm which shall be fronted by a rock revetment
consisting of 200-500 Lb. rock placed 2' below grade of filter cloth.
Berm shall then be planted with Rosa Rugosa 18" on center and a 3' X
30' catwalk, (elev. 3 1/2' over grade of marsh) a 3' X 12' ramp and a
6' X 20' float. Located: 765 West Cedar Beach Drive, Southo!d.
SCTT( ~90-1-6.
TRUSTEE E_RUPSKI: Is there anyone here who would like to speak in
favor of the application? Is there anyone here who would ~ike to
Board of Trustees 8 May 22, 1996
speak against the application? CAC comm. ents recommends approval with
conditions all construction should be landward of the current stakes.
Applicant should add beach grass to the plantings to stabilize the
berm. CAC also suggest that to the applicant that the rock reve~%ent
is not necessary. I would tend to agree with all those things. We
have been out to this property a number of times over the past years.
I don't thi~%k the rock is necessary in order tc protect that. I think
if the berm is placed where the stakes currently are, they would
offer some flood protection to the property. If it is vegetated, I
think that would be enough i don't think the rocks are necessary.
John did ever meet the applicant on the site?
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: Applicant, no. But it was very well staked out. My
own impression is that everything that is staked out is up land. It
has no intrusion at all into the marsh, it is at least 3 or 4' on a
vertical distance. If he wanus to put rocks in his back yard, that is
all he is doing. If he wants to put a bezm'on top of that, fine. Our
opinion just to mention to Glenn, we are not sure that that is going
to effect what he wa~uts to do. The way it looks is that the water can
still come around the neighbors. That is his decision, if he wants to
put dirt and rocks in his back yard he can.
GLENN JUST: To be perfectly honest with you it was not his intention
at any time to put rock in part of the plan. It was demanded by DEC.
If you recall two properties up, the same thing. We are not putting a
retaining wall up and the DEC demanded that we put rock there.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: I have no probt~m with it. I would make a motion...
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Is this survey accurate?
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: Precisely.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Is it behind Cedar trees?
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: No. It is 3' from the edge of the marsh. The marsh
ends here, the stone starts here, and then behind stone starts the
berm. It is very close down betow. Not up where we thought.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: O.K.
Any other coa~uents? Motion to close the hearing.
TRUSTEE GARRELL: Second. ALL AYES.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: I will make a motion to approve the application of
Thomas McDonough.
TRUSTEE KING: Second. ALL AYES.
8:15 P.M. - in the matter of Suffolk Environmental consulting, Inc.
on behalf of HAROLD P~PENSTEiL requests a Wetland Permit to construct
a 4' X 88' raised catwalk, a 4' X 14' ramp and a 6' X 20' floating
dock.~ Located: 1055 Bungalow Lane, Mattituck. SCT~ ~123-3-14.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Is there here who would like to speak, on behalf of
the application?
BRUCE ANDERSON: Bruce Anderson for Suffolk Environmental Consulting.
Last month I thought cleared a pretty complete case. i am certainly
not going to go over that again. There where 3 or 4 issues that came
up during that which I thought where interesting. We showed you
exactly what the property owners rights where to access navigable
waters and the board being unsure of perhaps the conclusion that I
had reached brought it over to Laury Dowd who s~,~itted a memo in the
file. We retained our own attorne~ to take a closer look at that plus
the memo of Laury Dowd and the thrust of that is that the two
attorney's actually agree, that they do have the right to wharf out.
to navigability. It is not disputed by us that it is your power to
regulate docks. That is why we are here for a permit. What Mr. Angle,
Board of Trustees 9 May 22, 1996
our attorney, did is that he wrote me a memo that puts into
perspective what Ms. Dowd's posiuion was and what my position was. I
think that every one is in agreement that the applicant has the right
to do this. I will hand this up for the record. You should really
take the time to read through this, because this not only effects
this property put really any others that are, this is the first and
will not be the last that you will be confronted with these issues. I
think it will serve you well if you are really carefully evaluate
what the riparian rights of a property owner actually are. I think we
are correct on it.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Well, we don't know that because we didn't read this
yet.
MR. ANDERSON: Let me read that into the record because we are going
to ask if you agree with that. The letter starts, as...see attached
letter. I think we have an agreement here.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Who is we?
MR'. ANDERSON: Meaning the two attorney's.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: There is three attorney's. Essex, Hefter and Angel.
MR. ANDERSON: Well O.K. Mr. Angel of that fia~L~ and Ms. Dowd of the
Town. There is a second area of dispute.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Getting back to that Bruce, that is part of the
issue. All they did was chase-there tale on all of those arguments.
They never actually caught it.
MR. ANDERSON: How do you mean.
TRUSTEE WENCZEL: They never said what navigable water was.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Exactly. We all have the right to reach navigable
waters acknowledged by the board.. Always has been. And acknowledged
by the adjacent owners. The Board has the right to regulate
structures that are going to reach those navigable waters. We just
right around and we are back in the same spot again.
Actually we haven't because in the aerial photo it shows you exactly
where that channel is in relationship to the dock.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: Your assummption is that the channel is navigable
water?
MR. ANDERSON: That is correct.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: That is not necessarily true.
TRUSTEE KRUPSK!: You are limiting the channel to the area.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: You are limiting the channel to the water that is
navigable. That is not true. There is a lot of other water that is
navigable besides the chsnnei.
MR. ANDERSON: Given the fact that the boat to be moored at this dock
is well within the size of the boats, that are found in Deep Hole
Creek, the conclusion has to be that those boats are restricted to
where they can go. The only place they can go is the channel. So
therefore the channel for the boats in Deep Hole must be navigable
waters.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: So in other words you want to put your dock into
the channel?
MR. ANDERSON: No.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: The point is that if you are not going.to put it
in the channel then there is navigable water outside the channel. And
that is my point.
MR. ANDERSON: The boat is here at the edge of the channel.
TRUSTEE HOLZ~3FRL: But it is not in the channel and it is at
navigable water. That is our position completely and entirely.
TRUSTEE KRUPSK!: Is that dock in the channel?
Board of Trustees i0 May 22, 1996
M-R. _ANDERSON: The dock goes up to the channel.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: But is it in the channel?
MR. ANDERSON: No it is not in the channel.
TRUSTEE Ki~UPSKi: Is that still navigable? That is the whole thing
from the attorney's is that it doesn't resolve anything. That is just
meaningless.
MR. ANDERSON: In that case law where the exact same disputes c~me up
that have been resolved where the court has told the board give the
man a permit because that is where navigable water was.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: There are no specifics in the case.
TRUSTEE GARRELL: Bruce it is a wonderful argument and it is very
interestLug to listen to the court cases, but I think your argument
becomes mute ~uless the mout~ of that creek gets dredges out this
S~L~er. That is going to hinge on turn nesting and. the Fish and
Wildlife Service. If Hepensteil has a boat in there now of the size
that you describe, he ain't getting it out. If he has a boat out
side, he ain't getting it in. There is no sense in working your self
up over a mute case right now.
_~R. ANDERSON: Are you telling me that you don't ~hink any of the
boats can be able to get in.
TRUSTEE GARRELL: No.
TRUSTEE WENCZEL: It is closed.
TRUSTEE G~qRELL: I have news for you, you didn't hear the work
session. It should over man.
MR. ANDERSON: The fact of the matter is that we are not proposing to
dredge, we are proposing to dock to reach navigable waters.
TRUSTEE GARRELL: What is navigable? 4', 6' depth. We just got through
with Cutchogue Harbor Marina. In order to do what they want to do,
they want to blow out to a 6' depth. What is. going to happen when
Hepensteil wants to bring in a party boat up into Deep Hole Creek.
MR. ANDERSON: We haven't proposed...
TRUSTEE GARRELL: We have problems here.
MR. ANDERSON: We can't regulate on what if. We can only regulate what
is proposed.
TRUSTEE K~RUPSK!: Thank you. And on that note, lets move on.
MR. ANDRRSON: i have a couple of interesting things that I want to
point on. Number one, you sent your Bay Constables out and you have a
report in front of you. I have a report as well. He is showing waters
to be a foot deeper then I show. Which i thought was improbable, but
interesting. What is also interesting is he shows the edge of the
canal exactly where the aerial photo does. You can see that from
looking at ~e distances. There is no disagreement as to where that
edge of ~he channel is. Because he is showing it a foot deeper what
we will propose or.this point is that we shorten the dock 10'. That
would bring us by my account somewhere arol~n~ 17" of water. By
Bay Const~b!es account more like 3' of water. We are a little bit
off. We are willing to split that difference, if we can solve this
today. If we are nou going to resolve this today, then I think we are
going to stick to our guns. I have prepared revised surveys that show
the i0' drop. I will ask thau you will approve this today. I also
understand that there is a $3.00 per sq. ft. fee?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKi: Yes.
FLq. ANDERSON: Here is the fee.
TRUSTEE Ki{UPSKI: We can't take that at a public hearing. There is no
approval.
Board is reviewing file.
Board of Trustees 11 May 22, 1996
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: I am looking at 3' as navigable water. Would you
agree to that? The Bay Constable has measured out 85' from the tie
line of the property. I did that on your...
MR. ANDERSON: That is not from the tie line.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: The line going across the two property marks.. MR.
ANDERSON: What the Bay Constable has done is he took the two existing
post from the preexisting dock and he made his measurement from there.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: Right. Then I took it from that straight line
instead of trying to presume where those two things are, the straight
line behind that connecting the two tie marks, the property lines. Do
you see the dotted line going across?
MR. ANDERSON: Yes.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFRL: if you take that line on the Bay Constables map,
3' being generous, is 85'. Then i go to your mark and I find out that
85' is in the middle of your float or a 3/4 of the way through your
float. I just want to find out what you are talking about.
MR. ANDERSON: O.K. What we did was we took...this was reduce from 88
to 78'. It is taken off from this end of the dock. So this entire
structure is move i0' in relative to the tie line.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFE/.: My point is this, here is 3' of water, measure
that out, I get 85~. That would, be a reasoD~hle end to the dock. Then
I come over here and I measure this out and 85' is about 3/4 into...
MR. ANDERSON: You. know what the problem is, I think you are say this
is 85' here?
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: No from this line to 3' mark is 85'.
MR. ANDERSON: From this line here.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: From this line here to here is 85', agreed?
MR. ANDERSON: Yes.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: So we bring that over here which I thought you had
sad that 3' and 85' turns out to be right here. About 4', 5' shorter
than what you are proposing. That is why I said...
MR. ANDERSON: Here is the conflict, your constable has not located
where these posts are.. This is not a point of reference. Whether the
post are this way or that way, I can't say. He is not referencing his
line.
TRUSTEE HOLZA~FEL: Sure he is. This is the wetland line and he split
the distance between the two. He drew those little post showing that
is where they were.
MR. ANDERSON: He doesn't know where those post are.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: With in a i' he does.
MR. ANDERSON: He can't know.
CLERK: He took from the existing post.
Mr. ANDERSON: He can't plot them on a map.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL:.But Bruce it is 5'. You can't pick the middle of
5'?
MR. ANDERSON: John, for all we know t~he posts could be out here.
TRUSTEE WENCZEL: Where could they be?
MR. ANDERSON: The could be in the water, they could be below the mean
high water and within the marsh. I know they are within the marsh. I
can tell you that.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFRL: Well he said it is 20' to the edge'of the beach
grass. This is what you showed as the beach grass. If we look at
that, it is less then 20'. So if anything these polls are up further
and these are in closer, i will agree with that Bruce, if that is
what you are saying.
Board of Trustees 12 May 22, 1996
~MR. ANDERSON: I took this an I overlaid it onto my survey. There is a
couple of important differences here. Mi, the angle at which the dock
leaves the property this way, is a different angle than he has got
here. If you took them and'overlaid them like that, you can see the
angle is different. He is coming out this way and the dock comes out
this way.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: How far? A foot?
MR. ANDERSON: The point is John it is source of error. You have two
sources of error here.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: Tour saying it is an error. I am saying it is only
by this much.
MR. ANDERSON: What I am saying is that you can't say that. You have a
source of error where these unptotted post are and you have a source
of error associated with the skew in which he drew it. And what I
would argue is that there is a source of error in the way he measured
it, because he has a got a foot deeper then what I have..Which is
inconceivable.
TRUSTE, R HOLZAPFEL: To whom?
MR. ANDE~RSON: Well, you have also heard testimony that my depths
measurements over estimated the depths. The public has told you that.
They say it is much shallower than what I am showing you. You have
two sources of error here.
TRUSTRE HOLZAPFEL: I agree. I don't believe they are major errors.
MR. ANDERSON: We are proposing to set it back !0~
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Is there any other coalescent?
PAT MOORE: Can we have a clarification please?
TRUSTEE HOLZAP~L: What basically has happened is that t~he applicant
is making a motion to move everything back 10'. The catwalk will be
10' shorter.
PAT MOORE: So instead of 88' it will be 78'.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Starting from the same spot.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPF~: So it is 10' shorter.
PAT MOORE: On the amendment it will reduce it. I am looking at the
cross section.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: I the new survey it says that the proposed catwalk
will be a 78' X 4' raised catwalk, the ramp will still be 4' X 14'
and then the float will still be 6' X 20'. So it is identical except
that everything will be moved back 10', landward.
PAT MOORE: Was there ever a discussion ~bout the float being moved in
a "T" shape so that it would be less intrusive to the channel?
Last month we raised an issue that the neighbors certainly recognize
that there is no problem with having this st_~cture, as long as it is
reasonable in size~ There was some discussion o~ reducing the size
and possibly relocating the floating dock in such a way that it would
reduce it further. Turning it in rather than leaving it out. Is that
a possibility as well?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: i think that by moving it back 10' it allows the
applicant equal water depth on both sides for two boats as opposed if
they left the catwalk at the original length and turned it, it would
bring it landward. It wouldn't be equal water depth on either side of
the dock. By moving the whole structure back, they get equal water
depth.
P~T MOORE: So instead of the 98' that they had originally proposed it
would reduce it down to 88' total.
_~RUSTEE KRUPSKI: The catwalk was reduced by !0' so it pulls the ramp
and float in straight bamk.
Board of Trustees 13 May 22, 1996
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: is it a fixed ramp?
MR. ANDERSON: It has to be roller.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: They show it in the diagram as the ramp and the
float together maximum distance. But that ramp is going to overlap
the float 4 or 5' at least.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Any other co~m~ent by the Board?
JUDGE ESCAROLE: I just have a question. Is the Board in entertaining
this application excepting the argument that a riparian owner has a
right to run a dock out to navigable water.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Yes, I think we are.
JUDGE ESCAROLE: Because than I would need a dock about 200'
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: We have con through this.
TRUSTRE KRUPSKi: TQ~is discussion takes place on almost every dock
application that we receive during the course of the year and there
are many. There are very few dock applications that we get that we
say granted. This goes on and on and on for every application.
JIrDGE ESCAROLE: I know that.
TRUSTEE KRUPSK!: Navigability is what is at stake here. It is patent
lands and we own the bottom. We are the ones who will decide what is
navigable. Obviously you get into a discussion of what size boat is
appropriate for that water way. We ultimately will decide. You can
apply for anything.
JUDGE ESCAROLE: But when you talk about navigability there is a
channel that runs to a point to about here ~d then it runs off up to
here and runs along Bungalow here. This whole area you get a good low
tide and an off shore wind, the only thing left are the two little
rivulets. If you are talking about putting a dock in navigabi!it~,
you are not talking about at high tide.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: That is precisely what I have been t~ing to say.
JUDGE ESCAROLE: This is not navigable.
TRUSTEE WENCZEL: Sometimes.
JUDGE ESCAROLE: You said you couldn't get a boat in there.
TRUSTEE WENCZEL: Most of the time you can take a row boat in there,
right?
JUDGE ESCAROLE: I will watch, you row.
TRUSTEE WENCZEL: I mean on that flat.
JUDGE ESCAROLR: No, not always.
TRUSTEE WENCZRL: Most of the time.
JUDGE ESCAROLE: Most of the time.
TRUSTEE WENCZRL: It is navigable.
JUDGE ESCAROLE: The other thing is, I have no objection to Mr.
Hepensteit getting his permit, I just wonder where he is going to get
the. boat in.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL:-I don't think he knows about that problem.
JUDGE ESCAROLE: In ~ai~ness to the applicant he should know that it
may not make it.
TRUSTEE HOLZA~FEL: The creek is shoal over, he is saying. It is
effectively closed.
TRUSTEE WENCZEL: i would just like to make one point on this and I
have said it before. We all know ~hat the tide goes up and down and
sometimes you can ge certain places and navigate certain places, and
certain times you can't. I don't this board feels that navigability
is related to the fact that it has to be utilized all the t~me. Or'
when the wind blows out of the nort~hwest in the middle of winter and
blowing 40 or 50 knots, there is no wa~er anywhere. That doesn't mean
that that area is not navigable under normal situations.
Board of Trustees 14 May 22, 1996
JI/DGE ESCAROLE: The size of the dock proposed going ~o reach ou~ to
the channel?
TRUSTEE WENCZEL: No.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: You can take a look.
TRUSTEE K~UPSKI: Any other questions? Do I have a motion to close the
hearing?
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: So moved.
TRUSTEE WENCZEL: Second. ALL AYES.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: I will make a motion that we approve the dock in
the amended form being a 4' X 78' raised catwalk, 4' X 14' ramp and a
6' X 20' floating dock.
TRUSTEE GARRELL: Second. ALL AYES.
8:46 P.M. - In the matter of BERNARD FI$tLER requests a Wetland Permit
to construct a 4' X 327' catwalk, 4' X 20' ramp and a 6' X 20' float
all on own property to reach navigable water. Located New Suffolk
Ave., Mattituck. SCTM ~114-12-4.
TRUSTEE KttUPSKI: The reason for the catwalk is to reach navigable
waters. Is there anyone here to represent the applicant?
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: He was here at the worksession.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKi: Mr. Fieler sent a letter. I will read for the
record. Dear Board members, the above mention application for the
catwalk, dock and float borders my property to the west. It is my
concern that my present access to James Creek by canoe is not
restricted or el'.lTQinated. These water ways are very narrow with
little room to spare.. Any new constr~ction pez~£~ktted should be
considerate of this limitation. Prospect of boat tied to the proposed
dock would further restrict passage. Before this application is
approve i hope. these matters are resolved. We are going to approve
something that is 2 1/2. CAC co~L.uent, as narrow as possible and do
away with the ramp and the float.
ALLAN CONNELL: I should be at least as high as it is wide.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Any other co~L, ment? Make a motion to close the
hearing.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: So moved.
TRUSTEE GARRELL: Second. ALL A'fES.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: A motion to approve the application for 2 1/2 X 327'
~-'.a~lan~ ~ ~ and ~oas~a~ ~ Erosion Permit to construct a ~0~n' wooden
_uzkhead with 2 returns at toe of bluff. Located: 54255 Route 48,
Southold. SCTM 952-1-4.
TRUSTEE KilUPSKI: There was a revision today: Please note the
previously submitted plans are revised as follows, the distance
between the bulkhead and the face of the building is reduced to 45
!/2'. This relocating initially proposed bulkhead 4' to the south of
the bottom of the bank. The height of the bulkhead has increased to
8' above the beach. Please call if you should require any additional
information. There is stone armoring on here. Any comment? Anyone
opposed? A motion to close the hearing.
TRUSTEE GARRELL: Second. ALL AYES.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: i will make a motion to approve the application with
amended description which shows the st~acture at the toe of the bluff
Board of Trustees 15 May 22, 1996
armored with stone, which i believe is going to consistent with DEC
Permit. CAC suggested that the slope should be stabilized with beach
grass. That is certainly good idea. The slope should be vegetated.
TRUSTEE KING: Seconded. ALL AYES.
8:54 P.M. - In the matter of ARNOLD NEUER requests a Wetland Permit
to clear 22' right of way for access to property owned by Mr. Neuer.
Located: Mill Path Road, Southold. SCT~ ~56-4-16.
%~USTEE KRUPSKi: Is there anyone here who would like to speak in
favor of the application?
ARNOLD NEUER: I went to the property today and I saw the surveyor
marks. I is approximately about a 300' run. When i went out there, I
was shocked. Right in the middle of the road that we used all the
tL~e was a staked. We did go over a couple of feet. Towards the back
we didn't. The bulldoze operator' put trees in there. He was going to
put them in back where I am or put them in the dumpster to clean up.
I told Mr. Aurichio before, I am sorry the bull doze man went over
there. If we went the other way, I would have to take down big trees
like that and I don't want to do that. ! told Mr. Aurichio I will
plant grass wherever he did it. I will clean up the property and take
off the trees. I am very sorry I wasn't there when the bulldoze
operator was there. Anyway, this morning I got a letter from the DEC.
They said they would like to see me. I called this morning and spoke
to a Mrs .... and I told here the two names on top, I told here Mr.
Aurichio had nothing to do wi~k this. Any blame should be on m%z part.
I told him if he wants to call her tomorrow and excuse himself, i am
sure it would work out. I have an appointment the 20th of next month
at 3 o'clock. They said it should tare an hour. i loved to clean ~p
the trees, but they said do not touch place until they speak to me.
Unfortunately I made some errors. I am trying to redeem m~self.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Would it make more sense for the Board to table this
until we talk to ~he DEC. I don't say do this and they are going to
say do that.
MR. NEUER: I can't do anything until next month any way.
TRUSTEE GARRELL: Maybe we can get Mr. Aurichio's confluents?
MR. AURICHiO: At this point and time, we still have to go to the DEC.
I don't know who has jurisdiction over who.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: We both do. We try and coordinate so somebody is not
caught in the middle.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: We don't want to say plant here and they say don't
touch that.
MR. NEUER: You told be where it was and I went there and I was
shocked. You can see the pebbles where he(the surveyor') didn't touch.
We did go on his side.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I will make a motion to recess the p~hlic hearing
until our n~xt months meeting and then we will have the information
from the state. To make sure we are on the page with them.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: Second. ALL AYES.
9:00 P.M. - In the matter of ARNOLD NEUEItreq~ests a Wetland Permit
to clear property of debris and leave in natural state. Located 2475
Mill Path, Southotd. SCTM ~56-i-6.
TRUSTEE KRLrPSKI: We looked at this two months ago. I am going' to make
a motion to deny this permit. Which means that you have to leave it a
natural state and there is no more disturbance of that property.
MR. NEUER: I am happyo
Board of Trustees t6 May 22, 1996
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: i made a motion to deny that permit. I don't know
what the state is going to do.
I will make a motion to close the hearing.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: Second. ALL AYES.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I will make a motion to deny that.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: Second. ALL AYES.
9:05 P.M. - In the matter of JAMES DEERKOSKI requests a Wetland
Permit to construct a single family dwelling approx. 75' from
wetlands. Located 260 Deer Drive, Mattituck. SCTM 114-10-2.
TRUSTEE Kt~UPSKI: This is marginally jurisdictional. Is there anyone
who would like to make a comment. CAC reco~mL,ended approval if runoff
is contained, haybates, dr~wells, and no clearing within 75' of the
wetlands. I think the house is 75' so we are going to have to give 10
or 20' around the house tc work. The wetland line is inaccurate here.
ALLAN CONNELL: ! said at 50', but ever~one else said 75' The plans
show that they are not going to put anything by the edge of that
house.
TRUSTEE HOLZA~FEL: Right. When ever somebody puts something on the
edge of the 75', you have to go another 10' for the foundation...
TRUSTEE KRUPSKi: The ~ilding envelope means the building. The
clearing is whoever is running the bulldozer.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: That is why we asked for an application.
ALLAN CONNELL: I agree with you.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: Why don't we say haybales at 60'.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I would say 50~ from' their boundar~ line. Their
property tins. Their wetland line is meaningless. 50' from the
property line gives them 15' to work with. Any other comment? Motion
to close the hearing.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: Second. ALL AYES.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I make a motion to approve the application provided
there be a 50' no clearing buffer from the northern property line and
that there be a continuous line of haybales in place at that point.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: Second. ALL AYES.
*NOTE: Letter in file, applicant requests to withdraw the following
application at this time:
P.M. - In the matter of JOHN S~IRID~tS requests a Wetland Permit
and Coastal Erosion Pe~it to construct approx. 30' retaining wall to
attach to neighbors and access stairs. Located Soundview Ave.,
Southold. SCTM %135-1-4.
TRUSTEE KRU~SKI: There will be nc public hearing on this ~Dpiication.
BRUCE MACDONALn explain situation on his part, gave boar~ a copy of
the deed showing Ownership of property ~nd requested a emergency
permit to reconstruct bulkhead across 30' right of way.
After discussion TRUSTEE KRUPSKI made a motion to issue a storm
damage permit to replace the bulkhead as per DEC Pe~t and seconded
by TRUSTEE HOLZAPFRL. ALL AYES.
9:20 P.M. - In the. matter of john Geideman on behalf of JAMES ~A/T~ING
requests a Wetland Permit to replace 1 existing 110' groin. Located
1370 Jackson Street, New Suffolk. SCTM ~1!7-i0-!0.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: We will consolidate these two. Is there anyone who
wants to co,~aent on this? A motion to close the hearing.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: Second. ALL AYES.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Motion to approve as amended.
Board of Trustees 17 May 22, 1996
TRUSTEE GARRELL: Second. ALL AYES.
P.M. - In the ma~ter of John Geideman on behalf of JOHN M_~NNING
requests a Wetland Permit to replace 2 existing t!0' groins. Located
1470 Jackson Street, New Suffolk. SCTM ~1t7-10-!i.
9:22 P.M. - In the matter of J.M.O. Consulting on behal~ of ROBERT &
E~LEN WHITE requests a Wetland Permit and Coastal Erosion Permit to
install 43+/-' of revetment, which shall consist of i -1 1/2 yard
rock which shall be placed on filter fabric, and backfilled with
75+/- c.y. of soil and then planted with native vegetation. Located
Penninsula Road, Fishers Island. SCT~ ~t0-3-9.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Any comments?
TRUSTEE WENCZEL: Motion to close the hearing.
TRUSTEE GAR~Rr.r.: Second. ALL AYES.
TRUSTEE WENCZEL: I will make a motion to approve the application of
Robert White.
TRUSTEE GARRELL: Second. ALL AYES.
7:26 P.M. in the matter of STEVE ~LINOSKI requests a Wet]snd
Permit and Coastal Erosion Permit to remove existing dock ~nd place
new dock in new location approx. 8' to east as follows: an 8' X 40'
dock with adequate spacing for sunligkt penetration attached to a 13'
X 16' "L" with a 9' X 16' utility shed. Also to add a ramp leading to
(3) 8' X 20' floats, straight out. Located Private Road off Oriental
Ave., on Inner Bay of Great Harbor, Fishers island. SCTM $10-11-3.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKt: Is there any comment?
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: Motion to close the pubtic hearing.
TRUSTEE GARRELL: Second. ALL AYES.
TRUSTEE GARRELL: Move to the approve the permit to Steve Malinoski.
TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: Second. ALL AYES.
V. RESOLUTIONS:
!. JOE POTTGEN requests a Grandfather Permit for approx. 100'
bulkhead and to add a 4' X 4' platform and steps down to beach.
Located 550 Blue Marlin Drive, Southold. SCTM ~57-i-27.
A motion was made by TRUSTEE WENCZEL and seconded by TRUSTF.~E
HOLZAPFEL to approve the 9zand~father pez~,it. ALL AYES.
VI. MOORINGS:
. LARRY SEVER±Ni requests a mooring in Broadwater Cove for a 25'
Pro-li~e with 150b. mushroom. Access: off rented property with owners
permission.
A motion was. made by TRUSTEE K~UPSKI and seconded by TRUSTEE
HOLZAPFEL to approve. ALL AYES.
2. EDW~29D CAVEN requests a mooring in Broadwater Cove for a 23~
Macgragorwith 100lb mushroom. Access: Mason Drive.
A motion was made by TRUSTEE KRUPSKI a~d seconded by TRUSTEE
HOLZAPFEL to approve.
ALL AYES.
Board of Trustees 18 May 22, 1996
$ BRUNO SEMON requests a mooring ~4 in Ha!locks Bay for a 16'
Columbian with a 50-75 lb mushroom. Mr. Semon is RI on waiting list
for moorings.
A motion was made by TRUSTEE KRUPSKI and seconded by TRUSTEE GARRE/,L
to approve. ALL AYES.
4. EDWARD Wo WORTH. requests a mooring in Mud Creek for a 25' Sea Ox
with 100lb mushroom. Access: Public, Little Road.
A motion was made by TRUS~EE KRUP'SKI and seconded by TRUSTEE
HOLZAPFEL to table for further review. ALL AYES.
Meeting was adjourned 9:35
Respectfully Submitted by:
.~bard of Trustees