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Home My WebLink AboutTR-01/29/1997Albert J. Kmpski, President John Holzapfel, Vice President Jim King Martin H. Garrell Peter Wenczel BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Town Hall 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 Telephone (516) 765-1892 Fax (516) 765-1823 t~iNUTES JANUARY 29. 1997 PRESENT WE~RE: Albert J. Krupski, Jr., President John Hotzapfel, Vice-President Peter Wenczel, Member Martin Garrell, Member James King, Member Jill Doherty, Clerk WORKSESSION: 6:00 P.M. CALL MEETING. TO ORDER PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE NEXT TRUSTEE BOARD MEEting: Wednesday, February 19, 1997, at 7:00 p.m WORKSESSION: 6:00 P.M. NEXT FIELD INSPECTION: Wednesdayr February 10, 1997 at. 2:00. I. MONTSLY REPORT: The Trustees monthly report for December 1996: A check for $9,12t.73 was forwarded to the Supervisor"s Office for the General fund. II. PUBLIC NOTICES: Public notices are posted, on the Town Clerk's Bulletin Board for review. III. AMENDbIERTS/WAIVERS/~GE$: 1. Costello marine on behalf of STANLE~ J. CIAPUTA requests an amendment to Permit ~4621 to repair arffi reconstruct existin~j deteriorated stairWa~ and platforms on the bluff, locate~: 635 Soundview Ave., Southold. $CT~ ~50-2-7 A motion, was made by TR~STEEKRI/PSKi and sscond~dby~USTEE KING to approve amendment. ALL AYES.. 2. Costello Marine on behalf of LUCIEN ARCAS requests, an Amendment to permit ~4622 to repair and reconstruct existing Board of Trustees 2 ,~uary 29, 1997 deteriorated stairway and platfoxms on the blui~f. Located 435 Soundview Ave., Southal~. SCT~ ~50-2-6 A motion was m~ by TRUSTEE GARRELL an~ seconde~ by TRUSTEE KING to approv~amendme~t. ALL AYES. 3. SALLY AN~ PETE~HAEFFNER requests a one-year extension to Permit ~4441 to constm~ct sin~l~ ~amily dwellings.. The permit expires April 1997. Located 1950 Clea~view Ave., Southold. SCTM ~70-10-27. A motion was made by TR~STEE K~U~SKI an~ seconded by TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL to approve extension. ALL AYES. 4. STEPHE~ PARZIALE requests a Transfer of Permit ~118-4-11 from Joan Cacciole to Stephen. Parziate and amend the p~t to add the secondary retaining wall approx. 9~' with two approx. 10' returns as per survey dated 10/11/95. Located 8425 Nassau Point Road, Cut~'hoque. SCT~%llS-4-11~ A motion was made by TRUSTEE KR,UPSKI and seconded by TRUSTEE HOLZAPPEL to table until next month so it can be ins.pected. ALL, AYES. 5. En-Consultants on behalf o~ JAMES ~A~BO, INC. requests an Amendment to Permit ~375 to add approx. 30 1.f. of rock revetment to existin~ revetment, to tie i~tobulkhead of neighbor to west. Approx. 200 c.yo of clean sand will be trucked in and used to backfill propose~reve~ent as well as existing. Located ROW off Oregon Ro~a, Cutchogu~. SCT~983-2-4.1. A motion was made by TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL and seconded by TRUSTEE KING to approve amendment.. ALL AYES, 6. J.M.O. Consulting on b~half of PISHR~S IS~ GOLF COURSE request an Amendment tc Permit ~4556 to construct an additional 105' to existing rock =evetment, place 19~ c.y. of clean sand. to restore dune rue, install 1t0 1. f. of sno~ fence at toe o~ eroded dune and pla~tAmericanBeackGrass on 12" centers on area of fill and hetween duneand gol~ area as pe~ ~ECAmend~d Permit dated 12/18/96. Located E~t End Road, Fishers Island. SCT~ %1-1-3o13. A motion was made by TRUSTRR WENCZEL and seconded by TRUSTEE HOLZAPFELto approve ~me~t. ALL AYES. 7. J.M.O. Consulting on behal~ SUZANNE C. SCHUTZ~ requ, ests a Wai~er to construct a pool, patio,, dr~well f.ar pool, =econstruct existing deck an~ constr~ct rOO~ ~or deck. Located East End Road, no number, Fishers Island. SCTM ~7-6-8. A motion was made by TRUSTE~ WENCZEL an~seco~8~dby TRUSTEE HOLZA~FEL to approve waiver. ALL AYES. 8. LEO & GERAL~INEOLSE~q request to trans~erpermi~ ~528 for bulkhead ramp and float ~rom V. Ge=mansky to Leo & Geraldine Otsenastheyhav~ purchased the property. Located, 359Q ~m~n Road, Greenport. SCTM ~35-4-28ot2. A motion was made by TRUSTEE. KRU~ and seconded b~ TRUSTEE WENCZEL to approve transfer. ALL AYES. Board of Trustees 3 ~nuary. 29, 1997 IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS: THIS IS A PUBLI.C HEARING IN THE MATTER OF TtIE' FOLLOWING APPLICATIONS FOR PE--EMITS L%~DEE THE WETLABq~S ORDINanCE OF THE TOWN OF SOUTHOL~. I HAIr~ AN AFFIDAVIT OF PUB~=ICATION FROM LONG ISLAND. TRAVR. T.R~-WATCHN~N.. PER~ C~tKPR~E~C~. ~L~Y BE READ PRIOR TO ASKINS FOR C~S FRC~ THE PUBT~C. PLF~S]~i KEE~ YOUR C~S. ORGA2~IZE~ AN~ BRIEF: FIVE (5) MIRIFfES OR LESS~ I~ POSSIBLE 1. J.M.O. Consulting on behalf of JAMES & KARENHOEG requests a Wetland Permit to cons.truat a sin~te family dwelling, sanitary system, deck, paso, ~cl~d~h~t ~iv~, an6 a line of haybates 50' ta~w~d, of ~is~ng ~1. wetlmm~ line. Locate: Wil]~s CEeek ~rive, ~t~t~k. S~ ~115-17-17.10 ~US~. KR~.: Is ~eze ~y co~? Dc I ~ve a motion tu close the he~ing? ~US~E ~~: Motion to approve. ~US~ HO~~: Second. A~ AYe. 2. J.M.O. Consulting on behalf of HAROL~ SCHWERDT requests a Wetl~n~ Permit to remove 94' of concrete block retaining wall and reconstruct in, lace with 80' timber wall with a 7' return on both end~ and backfill witk 5 c.y. of clean sand f~omupland source. Located 4~00akAve., Southotd. SCTM ~77-2-1. TRUSTEE. KRUPSKI.: I see thish4= ap~licationhas/~'t chanGe~. We spoke with Glenn and the~ I met with Lou Chiarella. We had the identical discussion. He built his retaining wall where the block wall was. All that is just garbage that he is throwing in front. That should he remow, ed. He should bring in seme ~aud to bring up the elevation a~d replant. Lou said~that is goc~. I asked Jill to tell Glenn that is basically it. I make a motion to table this. TRUSTEE GARRELL: Second. ALL AYES. 3. Proper-T Permit Se.rvices on hehat£ of ANGELO PADOVAN requests, a Wetland P~t to construct a concrete retainin~watl. totalling 128 i.f. and construct a rock r~vebment on seaward slide of. reta~g wall. locate: 2~615 Soundvie~Ave,, Sou~ho~d~ SC5~ ~t35-1-25,1 TRUSTEE KRUPSF~: Is ther~ anyone her~ wh~ would l~ke to speak in favor of the application? JIM FITZGERALd: Jim Fitzge~at~ ~or A~gele Padovan, I don't have anything to add. to the application, but I would h e happy to answer any questions you have. TRUSTEE KRUPEK~: We looked at it and. it seems straight fo~d. CLERK: CAC recommends, disapp£oval because Gf: the neighhc~'ing parc~els an~ existing erosion patterns do not warrant it being armored. Board of Trustees 4 ~nuary 29, 1997 TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: The way we saw it, it is sort. of semi armored.. The structure itself armors itself the w'a¥ it is. Ba.sica.l~ it is just a repair to that structure and it is not going to c:hang~ what is happening there anl~ay. Use this like a patch. JIM FITZGERALd: AKter~ the retaining wall. is-place, he will. d~ill a hole in ~he deck and pump in concrete and fill that in. Jill said you are i~te~ested in where the oil tank is. It is on the landward side of the seaward side of the house in the northeast corner outsi~e. TRUSTE~ HOLZA~FEL: Water ~ets vez-f close to that.. That is ou~ concern. If this is the northeast side, where th~deckarea is., it seemed t~at the tar~k was ~ust be~o~d that. By 5 or 6'. The must get ver~ close tG being in the water on a storm tide. JIM FITZGERkLD: That will be enclosed~ it will he inside the retaining wall. This will protect the oil tank. TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: That is p~etty ~ch armored by the patio. There reallyis no difference. JIM FITZGERAIi~: Envirornu~ntatly speakin~ there is no difference. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Is there anyone else who would like to comment on the application? Does the boa~d have any othe~ c~ts? A motion was made by TRUCE WENCZEL and seconded byTRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL to close the hearing. ALL AYES. A motion was made by TRUSTEE HOLZA~FEL and seconded by TRUSTEE KING to approve the application. ALL AYES. 4. Richard gaetta on behalf of JA~S GRACE, SR. request a We%land & Coastal ErOSion Permitto remove two existin~ houses, join the 2 ~us and construct a 1 family dwellin~ as per survey. Located: Wi~llowTerrace ROW, orient. SCTM $26-2-6 T~USTEE K~UP~SEZ: Is t~e~e anyone here who would like to speak in favor or against the application? JAMES GRACE: I am here i~ you have any questions. TRUSTEE E]~I~F~(t: We did the line between tb~ two houses, an~ it follows the line in a consistent marn~er. TRUSTEE There is a li.~e between the two corners and~ it is basically landward of that line. TRUSTEE WE~CEEL: We are net approving' this building envelope, just the proposed house and deck. TRUSTEE KRIF~SKI: Is there any other comment? Do Z have a motion to close the hearing? TRUSTEE WENCZEL: $o m~ved. TRUSTEE HOLZA~FEL: Second. ALL AYES. TRUSTEE HOLZA~: I will make the mo~ion that we approve the appticatio~ ~ Jam~s ~ace to remove t~ e~isti~g hou~e~.~ join the two lots and. construct a single family dwelling as per survey dated JanUar~ 24~, 1997. It does not include the ~aildi~g envelope, TRUSTEE~ KING: Second. ALL AYES. 5. FRANK SCAVONE requests a Wetland P.~.e~mit to construct a 45' bulkhead along toe of bluff approx, 4~ ~i~h, 8' to 15' above average highwatsz asp er drawings. Located: 16t5 Fleetwooct Road, Cutchogue. SCTM 3137-4-35 Board of Trustees 5 .nuary 29, 1997 TRUSTEE KRLrPSKI: I have had many conversations wither. Scavone and in the end we discussed the rock reMeh~ent~ He. thought that would be a gooct idea. He agreed to stabilize along the toe in front of and. on top off the rock revetment. I see that he sent us a cross section here which is very nice.. He wants to but a ptantin~ box up top which prevents rumoff, he says. Low density fill undemneath. He wants to mcdi~ the slope where required, which will allow to reuegetate. He wants to put natural boulders at the bottom. ~e says 2 os 3' high. ~Ie doesn~'t want a massiMe structure. He wants, it to look fairly natural. Re wan~s to angle~ it to reflect energy of the wave action and revegetate in the fromt. This is exactly what we discussed. It did save him a lot of time and e~fort as he says in his letter. Any other comments? TRUSTEEHOLZA~FEL: No. I think that is what we wanted. TRUSTEE KRLr2SKI: What kind of grasses? TRUSTEE GARRELL: American Beach Grass. TRUSTEE KRU~SKI: O.K. You want American Beach Grass ~oing up the slope and you want in front Spartina Patents? TRUSTEE GARRELL: Yes. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: There is a hu~e rack line here. There is like a 15'... TRUSTEE MOLZAPFEL: But Patents needs a much hiqher salinity and I don't think you erre ~oing to get it there. TRUS~KRUPSKI: Don't you think beach grass would he better there. TRUSTEE GARRELL: What axe you g~ing to do about roof runoff? TRUsTEE. KRU~SKI: Re is going to redo the house. We will be Do you think beach grass w~al~growthere? TRUSE~E It certainly looks l~ke it. ~p here it would. Pa~ents nccds to he wet once a month and just sit in the higher salinity wa~ers. Which is the opposite of w~at you would think. Patents has a higher satinitM requirement. Because the water e~aporates s~n~ it gets stuck up there in the high tides.. It doe~n,t belong in the water. TRUSTEE GARRELL: The letter from Altan Connelt says the beach area below MRW should be planted with Spartina AlternaFlora. SmoOth Cord Grass would provide further protection of the toe. The area hetwemn mean high tide and the toe of the slope should be planted with SpartinaPatents, Salt Meadow Cord Grass. TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: There it is. That is even better'. TR~STEEKRLV2SKt.: O.K. Thanks. Do I have. a motion, to class the hearing? TRUSTEE GARRELL: Move to cIose the hearing. TRUSTEE, WENC~RT.: Second. ALL. AYES. TRUSTRR ~: I move to approve th~ permit for Frank Scavone as per revised plans fox the rock revetment, box top planting and revegetation in front in accc~d~ with the reco~endations of Alla~Connell, a modifi~ slope an~angle~ boulders at the bottom as shown in the revissd plan. TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: Second., ALL AYES. 6. En-Consultm~ts Inc~, on behal~ o~ STE~AN MINAKYAN~ requmstm a Wetland Permit to inmtall 102 1.f. of timber retainingwal~l Board of Trus. tee~ 6 ~/~nuary 29, 1997 plus an 18' return on west side. On east side, wall will be built landward of neighbors gabion wall which encroaches on subject prope~tf. A skort return may have to be removed to accommodate proposed wall. Approx. 200~ c.y. of clean fill will be trucked in, and construct a 4' X 120' stairway with 3- 4' X 5' landings. Located: 2375 Soundview Ave., Mattituck. SCTM ~94-1-21 TRUST~E KRUPSKI: Is there anyone here who would like to speak in favor of the. application? DIANE LEVERIER: Diane LeVerier f~om Eh-Consultants here behalf Step~n Minakyan. The existing return will be removed. They a~e going to remove that return an~ construct the new wall behind the existing ~ab~n~ wall. TRUSTEE K~UPSKI: We will make it fottowing~ the toe of the bluff. DIANE: I think that is what they are plannin~ on doing anyway. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I spoke with Roy about the wate~ coming o~t of the bank. DIANE: He spoke with Step~n and he said he is aware of the situation~ He is a P.E. actually. He new that that was happening. But he also knows that the cost to repair what is goin~ on is about 100 thousand dotla~s. He was talking about crib walls and o~bm~ stulf. I don't know if that is going to be done anytime soon. He is aware of it. TRUSTEE KRU~SKI: It is serious there. DIANE: The plan has been revised to show one of the returns armored with stone. That was~ a requests o~ the DEC. TRUSTEE K~SKt: What this plan doesn.'t show is that, it follo~ the toe. Then it. will leave the neigkborhan~ing out in the open with a f,,nny angle. See how it qoes straight out an~ it will lea~e a funnw angle an~ if the neighbor does something, it will make that jog there. Follow the toe of the bluff. DIANE LEVERIE~: O.K. I don~t think that should he a problem. TRUSTEE KR~SKI: Do I have a motion to close the hea~in~? TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: So mo~ed. TRUSTEE WE~CZ~L: Second. ALL AYES.. TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: I will make a motion that we table the application of StepanMinakyanuntil we get new drawings dimensions. TRUSTEE KING: Second. ALL AYES. 7. Eh-COnSultants Inc., on behalf of NEWTON ROBBINS requests a Wetland Pe~t to replace (within I~") 91 i.f. of timber bulkhead and backfitlwith lO c.y. of claanfill, remove and replace 20' of return on west side, and~ construct a return on east side, a~d r~,ove and replace steps and a 5' C 12' incline~beat. =a~p. Locatex~:. 20 Third Street, New Suffolk. SCTM3117-tQ-19 TRUSTEE' KRUPSKt: Is there anyone who would like to speak on behalf of the application? DIANE LEVERIEt~: Speaking on behalf of Ne~t~nRobbins. This application is also amended b~ the requests o~ the DEC. The~ want the return, became a bi~ issue (on. the weste=t.ypropert~ line). It is not on his property. The femc~ is %n~4oa.tive of the. property line on the east side. However, the westerly retuz~ is Board of Trustees 7 /nuary 29, 1997 not on his property. I brought in new d~awings sh~win~ the returns. We hav~ a DEC permit for that. TRUSTEE KRU~SKI: I was going to suggest that he put that on h~s own property. A 20' return is not, it is ~all mattem physically. Instead of replacing it there to move it back the two feet onto his property. TRUSTEE ~FENCZEL.: The difference is that they would pull out the other one. TRUSTEE KRU~SKI: But it is not like it is in great... TRUSTEE WE~CZ'EL: That is the thing to do. DIANE LEVERIE~: He just wanted to leave it and replace the bulkhea~ in the front. TRUSTEE KRtP~SKI: That is fine. As long as he realizes that it. is not on his prope~ At some point the highway dept. might say that it is in the road way. D~ ~EE: If he didn't cor~truct it is it still his respqnsibility to... TRUSTEE K~UPSKI: No but the town could come and pull it out. DIANE LEVERIER: Tha~ that would be a problem for' him. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Right. DIANE LEVEt~TER: O.K. I, will let him know. TRUSTEE K~SKI: It is not a permitted, structure. He has no legal rights to it actually. If he wants to move it the two feet in to his property line, we will be happy to let him do that. Otherwise, it is his own risk. He can leave it. there and it might stay there the next hundred y~ars and nothing will ever happen. TRUSTEE WENCZEL: So ther. e is no re%u~ on the east side? DIANE LEVERIER: No, because there was already a bulkhead there so we are just going to tie in. TRUSTEE KRUPSK!:: Do I have a motion to close the hearing. TRUSTE~ HOLZAPFEL: So moved. TRUSTEE WEiICZEL: Second. ALL AYES. TRU~_/Z KR%rgSF~: I wi.il make a motion te approve the application as amended. No return on east sidm and reE~¥e and replace. 2~' return on west side. on property line with a 20' b.u~fer between house and bulkhead ( 6-10 ' ). TRUSTEE KING: Second. ALL AYES. 8. Eh-Consultants Inc., on behalf of RICHAR~ MAGEE requests a Wetlan~ Perm~,t to replace (within. 1S") an existing 6~ 1.f. and 77 1.f. of bulkhead, construct a 12' e~&ens,ion to existing return and back~ill with approx. 50 c.y. of clean fill. Located: 2795 Wells Road, Southald~. SCTM ~70-4-15.1 TRUSTEE KRupsKI: Is there anyone here who would like to speak on behalf of the application? DIANE L~EIE~: En-Con~=ultants on b~hal~ of the Ricb_ar~ Magee. It is just a basic replacem~t within lS". We just want to extend, thee. existing return.. There is som~ ~osion'.. TRUSTEE HOLZA~: D~ you have any sense on why that is there? The erosion. DIANE LEVERtER: It looks like during high tide it comes up and scout's out behind the. return. I h~ve a picture of it. Board of Trustees 8 ~jlnuary 29, 1997 TRUSTEE HOLZA~FEL: I saw it. It thought some of it might have to do with the runoEf Er'om the lawn too. DIANE LEVERtER: I don't know if it would b~e: coming from the lawn. TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: Just because the neighho~ called ~ asked about that particular, whether the extension of the return would just make more erosion. I said t didn't think it would cause any more erosion. DIANE LEVERIER: I don't think so, if you bring it fas enough back. That shoutdn' t happen. TRUSTEE WENCZEL: My feeling was that the. problem there is that they have the wrong kind oE vegetation planted. They 3ust have turf. There is nothing to hold that bank. So every time the tide comes up a~d there is any kind of ripple on the creek, you. are just washing it out. What they need to d,o is regrad, e and replant there. TRUSTEE KR~PSKI: That is the neighbors problem. TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: I just wanted everybody to be aware that there is some concern. TRUSTEE KR~SKi: Any other comment? TRUSTEE GARRELL: Move to close the hearing. TRUSTEE KING: Second. ALL AYES. TRUSTEE HOLZA~FEL: T wilt make a motion that we approve the application of Richard Magee with a 20' non-turf buffer. TRUSTEE KING: Second. ALL AYES. 9. Eh-Consultants Inc., on behalf of NEW SLrFFOLK SHIPYARD requests a Wett~nd Permit to dredge mouth oE Schoolhouse Creek to d~pth of 4' helo~ ALW, and approx. 200 c.y~ of resultant spoil will be dePOsited on property of Gerard S_chulthsd~. SufEolk Ave., New Suffolk. SCTM 3117-5-46.3 Is there anyone here who would like to speak on behalE o! I am Gerard Schuttheis. Just a couple of comments, numhe~ one, I am in favor oE the project. Last Summe~ I spent many a day towing boats out Of the creek that got stuck. Just some Observation I would like to make is that back in 1987, I replace 'the bulkheading along my ho~me which is along the si~e of Schoolhouse Creek. At that time also dmed~ed Schoolhouse Creek out. On an annual, basis in the spring time I ,would go out and take seu~gs to check the ~epth. From t98~8 to 1992 the depth oi that. channel rems!ned cons,tent. In 1992 we had that big storm which washed out some groi~ that are to the north of the chan~et. ~ter those gro~ns got washec% out, my observation has been that the chsn~el itself has been ~ilting in at a rate oE 6 or' 7" a year. It is just my observation that those groins prevented, the channel, from Eitling in. The other comment I, would like to address is basically the ~t calls for dredging 4' B~LW. I personally' have a sail b~at, My- boat requires 5' 6". 4' depth really '~limits the accessibility to thak creek at iow tide. DION LYNCH: I am Dion LYNCH of' New Suffolk Ships~rd. It is my belie~ that, I had higher, ed Eh-Consultants to apply fc~ the permit at a 5' draft. I did get my notice of appliCaltic~ from Board of Trustees ' 9 %usry 29, 1997 DEC and that showed the 4'. I called them, that has been amend~d to the 5' depth. I was under the belie~ that was that~ here as well. Maybe not. TRUSTEE Kt%UPSKI: If you want to ~mend that tonight, you can do that. DION LYNCH: We would like to. Othez~4ise I think it is pretty straight forward. TRUSTEE. KING: Did DEC limit you to 5'? DION LYNCH: No. I don't believe sc. TRUSTEE KING: Why don't you go another DION LYNCH: It is my observation i~ the past is that it got to the 5' spot and filled in. We have gone to the 6' and it wasn't more than a yeam, year and a hal~ before it filled in to 5'. It held real true. to the 5' ma~k fo~ years. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: That is fine. Jill will show you where to amend. it. You can do it right now. Diane we just amended the application to show a 5' depth instead of 4' DIANE LE~ERIER: O.K. TRUSTEE. GARPV. TJ.: Move to close tha hearing. TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL:. Second. ALL AYES.. TRUSTEE GARRELL: Move to approve the application with the amendment: to d~edge to 5' of water ior New Suffolk Shipyard. TRUSTEE KIN~: Second.. ALL AYES. 10. John Geidemen on behalf of JOSEPH CASTELLI requests a We%land Permit to construct a 130' bulkhead within 187' of old bullkhea~ ~n4 in front of existing slip, than fill in slip with approx. 50 c.y. of fill. Located Wells Read, Peconic. SCTM86-2-t!0. T~USTEE.~SKI: Do you want to make a con=sent on the application? L-A~~Y ~iLL: Just to say that I think it is alzight the. way it is'. I don't kn~ow what your c0~ents are. .TRUSTF25KEUPSKi: Do you ha~e DEC appruYal? LAR~Y ~LL: I don't ~aw. TRUSTEE K~UPSKI: Just it minimize the amount of structure there, we were thinking of taking up the little jog in the front on the south side. land coming from that corner fEom where the jog starts and ~illing in hal~ the slip. tnstead o~ puttin~ in one wall out, one wall ouer. You would start at that point and go diagonallyacrossthat, join up with the walt i~ ~ront. So y~ would have less st=u~ture. L~CRY TUTHILL: He didn't seem to mind. It didn't bether ~ to go stza%~ht aeross. That is what he would like to da. He doesn't have enough wate~ for his heat, so you axe accum~lishing two. things. TRUS~EEKRLr~SKI: How does it glue him watsE fez his boat? LARRY TUTHILL: He has his dock the~e, right? TRUSTEE HOLZAF--FEL: It is not on oum survey. TR~STEEK_~UPSKI: t don*t remember a dOckoutthe~e. LARRY--: This is a standazdpmocedure. On~ of the thi/lgs I dislike in that particular area., if you noticed-when your where there, you can almost, see to Jessup~. Z am a~zaid that if you pull that bulkhead o=t and. ye= get an~ easterly stozm~ he can Board of Trustees 10 'anuary 29, 1997 loose a trememSnus amount of land there. Secondly, iE you do that, any time else when they go to reptaca it they ca~p~ll it out then, because ~ always got the wall behind it to held the soil. Those bulkheads seem t.o hold up. t don~t like the idea~ of pulling~hemout wheat here is such ane~sur~. TRUSTEE KRIrBSK~: If everyon~ agrees that we should approve this as applied for, there is no sense going out. B~t we COuldn't approve it witho~tanupdated survey show~n~ the dock. He has to show the: dou~k and amend the application. He ba~ to show the dock and amend the applica~ ands how the do, ck, TRUETEE WENCZEL: Whe~y~u replane these buldcheads, do ¥o~ go rip out the entire old hulk~e~ud and then put in a new one cum wcutd you go ripiout the old one as yo~ put the new one. LAR~TUTHILL: To, might do it that way it saves time, but you. have. to tare UP a lot of property to do this. TRUSTEE WE~czEL: S.o what is the procedure? Would you normally do a little b;Lt at a time as you are building a new one? LARR~ TUTHILL: I norm~]ly don't do it. TRus;~E WENCZEL: O.K. TRUS~TEEKR~SKi: ~o yo~have a cross section inhere? TRUSTEE HOLZA~FEL: Lets tahte the whole thinD. There should be a ST~EKRLF~SKI: tt has to have the dock on it. Give us a cross section too. Showing the existing wall and how it is going tc be attached. TRUSTEE WE~ZEL: Ask Mr. Castelli about the diagonal. We would rather see that. LARRY TIPtS{ILL: I don't have to ask him. I already know wk~t he thinks. I to come the~e and c~t o~f the whole basin, come follow the base. line and come back. He didn't want that. ~s is a diagonal. You a~s doing about the same thing. I kno~ that he is not in favor of that. TRUSTEE KRI~PSKI: We will ha~e to table it because we need the cross section and the dock on ~he survey. TRUST~ HOLZA~A: It should be interestin~ to sec what the DEC says about loosing bottom. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I make a motion to table. TRUSTEE HOLZAPFEL: Second. ALL AYES. 11. Donna I. on behalf of the ESTATE OF JENNIE BOKINA ~ Wetland Permit a~l Coastal Pe~mittm ccnst~ 25' b~]_khea~to tie into: exiting bUtkhe~ on adjac~t pro~es. Place 2 to 5 ton stuae armor seawar~ of proposed bulkhead. Constr~ct stairs ~=um bulkh~ to beack. Place 2,622. c.y. of ~ilt an~ re-vegetate according to approved plan. Located ROW private Road $5, off Brid~e Lane, Cutchogue. SCT~ %72-1-3. Boar(i to rescind permit granted at theNovemhenmeetingtoDona Wexler for a 25' bulkhead on same property. CLERK: ~e got in themail~, yesterd~%¥, an authorization ~romthe Estaue of Jenny B~kina c/o of Edmund Bok~tna to have Donna Wexler to act as agent to build the hutkhead ~8 the stai~$ only and it is signe~hy Edmund Bokim~an~. Dorothy Kedilack. Board of Trustees 11 'anuary 29, 1997 So there is your authorization. We have a drawing from Rambo, Inc. showing the stai~s. TRUSTEE K~Lv~SKI.: Alpinist, woul~ a~yone like to c~t on this application.? Anyone like to close the hearing? TRt/STEE ~OLZAPEEL: So moved. TRUSTEE~ ~q~CZEL: Sec~. ALL AYES. TRUSTEE GAERELLi: I will make a motion to rescind the permit grante~ at the November meeting for a 25' h~lkhe~d.. TRUSTEE KING: Second. ALL AYEs. TRUSSqKE F~RUPSKI: I will make a motion to approve the application. TRUSTEE KING: Second. ALL AYES_. V. RESOLLVEIONS: 1. Samuels and Steelman on behalf of POSCH-BORISKY Residence requests a Grand~ath~r ~Pen~it fo~ approx. 25' X 30' beach house, approx. 30' stona watl~ and all the retaining walls an~ bulkheads shown on su~e~ dated December 2, 1996 with the follo~in~ approx, measurements: From west to east 5',to 35', to 5', to 57', to 8' return. 40' retain~ug wall to 50', to 30' 60' retai~ing wall up by beach house, 24' retaininq wall behind 60' retaining wal~, ptlat~orm and stai~s next to ~_ach. house. Locate~ 9475 Nassa~Point Road, Cutchogue. SCT~ ~119-1-1. A motion was made by TRUSTEE WENCZEL and seconded by TRUSTEE HOLZA~FEL to approve for a Grand~ather with no septic or sanitary system and no running wate~ assaciated with the structure. AYES: Wenczel, 2. White & Case on ~al~ o~ W. R~CHARD BI~G~A~ r~ts a Grand~ather Permit for an existin~ 6.5' X 55' dock. Located Central Ave., Fishers Island. SCT~ $6-4-2. A motion was mad~b~ T~USTEF. WE~CZEI~an~second~h~TI{DSTEE HOLZAPFE/~to approve ~hove. ~'L AYES. 3. Board to set ~h~ ~imits on Oysters The following action was ~ken by the Soutboid Town Board of Trustees at the regular meeting on Wednesday, Januar~ 29, 1997: Whereas the SoutholdT0wnTrusteeshavebeen~empoweredto set daily limit fo~ the commencialan~, recreationaJkharvest of oysters, and Whereas, the Trustees Shellfish Advisory c~mittee has been consulted re~ardin~ what daily limit shc~tdbe and made a recoam~e~dation limit at 20~0 oysters for commercial haz~;est~200 o~ste~s recreationa~ harvest, whereas th~ Southol~ Town Truste~shave det~rmin~hat this proposed daily limit will benefit the harvest~-s of this oyster resource in a very p~sitive way, and wheneas, So~thold Town Trustaes have detent hat this proposed daily limit will allow for the efficient harvest of the oyster resource in Mattituck Inlet hy altowi~theha~veste~s to maximize their harvest ~the Iimitad amount of the time that Board of Trustees 12 ~anuary 29, 1997 resources is available, because the conditional natuze of the fishery, and Whereas, the Southold Town Trustees have dete~in~d that the propose~ da% ly limit will benefit tl~e oyster resQu~ce hy allowing the e~ficient harvest o~ the la~ge ovemsize~ oysters thus providing space for the recruitment of juvenile oyster set, and Whereas the SQu~nl~ Town Trustees. have determ%~e~ that the proposed daily limit will not a~ect the spawning success ef the oyste~ population in Mattituck Inlet ~ a negative way because it has been de:te~mined that the~e asea a~ate numba~s of spawning adults in the permanently closed area of Mattituck Inlet, and Whereas, 1997 will be assessed ~rior to the setting of the 1998 oyster limits utilizing an anonla~ous harvest surve~ that is required in order to pumchase a Town Permit., and Therefore. be it RESOLVED that the Southold Town Trustees do hereby set the 1997 daily oyster harvest limit at 2000 oysters per day, pe~ person and 4000 per day pem boat for commercial harvest and 200 oysters per day for recreational b~vest. VI. MOORINGS: None MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 9:00 R~S~ECT~ULL~ SUBFLTTTE~ BY: ~ ~~ler M. Dohe k