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HomeMy WebLinkAboutTR-09/22/1999Albert J. Krupski, President James King, Vice-President Henry Smith Artie Foster Ken Poliwoda Town Hall 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 Telephone (516) 765-1892 Fax (516) 765-1823 BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES TOWN OF SOUTHOLD MINUTES SEPTEMBER 22, 1999 PRESENT WERE: Albert J. Krupski, Jr. President James King, Vice-President Henry P. Smith, Trustee Artie Foster, Trustee Ken Poliwoda, Trustee Diane Herbert, Clerk CALLED MEETING TO ORDER PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE NEXT FIELD INSPECTION: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 at 12 noon TRUSTEE SMITH moved to approve, TRUSTEE KING seconded. ALL AYES NEXT TRUSTEE MEETING: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 at & P.M. TRUSTEE KING moved to approve, TRUSTEE POLIWODA seconded. AYES WORK SESSION: 6:00 p.m. ALL APPROVE MINUTES: Approve Minutes of August 25, 1999 at Regulr Meeting. TRUSTEE SMITH moved to approve, TRUSTEE FOSTER seconded. ALL AYES I. MONTHLY REPORT: The Trustees monthly report for August .1999: A check for $3,934.83 was forwarded to the Supervisor's Office for the General Fund. II. PUBLIC NOTICES: Public Notices are posted on the Town Clerk's Bulletin Board for review. III. AMENDMENTS/WAIVERS/CHANGES: 1. CHARLES & BARBARA RODIN request an Amendment to Permit ~5000 to extend the length of the split rail fence already permitted to include the entire length of the property from the sea wall to the end of the road. This includes reconstruction of approx. 30' of split rail fence already existing at the west side of the property line. All new top soil and planting along the fence line will be removed. Located: 70 Strohson Road, Cutchogue. SCTM ~103-10-16 TRUSTEE KRUPSKI moved to approve the application with condition that they show on survey how far the split rail fence goes down to the guard rail and that if the phragmites start to colonize the new planted area they are to remove 6" of soil and replant, TRUSTEE SMITH seconded. ALL AYES 2. ~?'~i equests an Amendment to Permit ~4818 to lnc±~e %he existing 42' bulkhead, a 20' long bulkhead at the end of the catwalk, a 6" by 61' retaining wall, an 18" X 37' retaining wall, a 30" X 45' retaining wall and a 12" to 18" X 96' retaining wall. Located: 360 Bayview Drive, East Marion· SCTM ~37-4-1 TRUSTEE SMITH moved to approve the application, TRUSTEE FOSTER seconded· ALL AYES 3 a Waiver to place a ~ sunfish boat rack privately owned beach. The racks will be removed at the end of each sailing season. Located: 11012 Peconic Bay Blvd., Mattituck. SCTM ~126-6-10 TRUSTEE KRUPSKI moved to table the application until our Town Attorney can review the application and give us a legal answer, TRUSTEE SMITH seconded. ALL AYES 4 ts an Amendment to Permit #5036 to 12' ramp instead of a 3' X 8' as per DEC requirements. Located: 280 Cedar Beach Road, Southold. SCTM ~90-3-1 TRUSTEE SMITH moved to approve the application with condition that the float go no further out than originally approved for, TRUSTEE POLIWODA seconded. ALL AYES 5. J.M.O. Consulting on behalf of quests a one year extension to Permit #4814 to reconstruct within 18" 100' of timber bulkhead and backfill with 10 c.y. of clean sand with condition that a 10' non-turf buffer be placed landward of bulkhead. Located: 305 Gull Pond Lane, Greenport. SCTM ~35-4-28.25 TRUSTEE SMITH moved to approve the application, TRUSTEE KING seconded. ALL AYES 6. J.M.O. ConsultIng on behalf of'~~~quests a Waiver to reconstruct an existing timber dec~~ was constructed prior to 1980 and to add two additions to this deck measuring 10' X 15' each. Located: Crescent Ave., Fishers Island. SCTM ~6-7-16.1 TRUSTEE KRUPSKI moved to table the application because the Trustees did not get to go over to Fishers Island this month, TRUSTEE SMITH seconded. ALL AYES · J.M.O. Consultxng on behalf of~~~$~ requests a Waiver to reconstr ~--~- _?~z=~~ · uct/r~u~ue Limper walkway and deck. Located: Private Road, Fishers Island. SCTM #10-6-12.3 TRUSTEE KING moved to approve the application, TRUSTEE SMITH seconded· ALL AYES 8. En-Consultants Inc., on behalf os quests an Amendment to Permit ~4970 to allow ~ .... ~ ..... for ~ construction of the stairs and platforms straight down the bluff and transfer the permit to new owner from Herbert Jacobs· Located: 605 Sound View Ave·, Mattituck. SCTM #94-1-4 TRUSTEE FOSTER moved to approve the application, TRUSTEE KING seconded. ALL AYES · ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ . ~ . ~,~ ~ Waiver to construct a 40' 9 . ~ ~R~ -~.~ ~e qu e s t s a X ±z' ~ecK onto an existing house. Located: 7180 Peconic Bay Blvd., Laurel· SCTM ~126-11-9.1 TRUSTEE KING moved to approve the application, TRUSTEE SMITH seconded. ALL AYES 10..~:~ ?3~N~!~equests a Transfer to Permit #1812 from Robert Garben to V~rg~n~a Conway and to Amend the permit to replace pilings and to reduce the amount of pilings. Located: 5150 New Suffolk Ave., Mattituck. SCTM ~115-10-4 TRUSTEE KING moved to table the application until a new survey is submitted showing the correct measurement of dock that is there which should be 67' not 100', TRUSTEE KRUPSKI seconded· ALL AYES TRUSTEE SMITH moved to go off the Regular Meeting, TRUSTEE KING seconded. ALL AYES IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS: THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING IN THE MATTER OF THE FOLLOWING APPLICATIONS FOR PERMITS UNDER THE WETLANDS ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD. I HAVE AN AFFIDAVIT OF PUBLICATION FROM THE SUFFOLK TIMES. PERTINENT CORRESPONDENCE MAY BE READ PRIOR TO ASKING FOR COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS ORGANIZED AND BRIEF: FIVE (5) MINUTES OR LESS IF POSSIBLE 1. J.M.O. Consulting on behalf of: requests a Wetland permit to construct a 4' X 130' fixed dock, a 4' X 4' set of stairs, a 4' X 18' ramp and a 6' X 20' float with 4 tie off poles. Located: Crescent Ave., Fishers Island. SCTM #6-5-15 TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: This will be tabled due to no inspection. TRUSTEE POLIWODA second. ALL AYES 2. J.M.O. Consulting on behalf of ~ requests a W ' '~:~ ' ' " +' etland Permit to reconstruct w~th~n 18 , 685 of timber bulkhead utilizing vinyl sheeting and to backfill structure with 100+ c.y. of clean sand which shall be trucked in from an upland source. Located: 5780 West Mill Road, Mattituck. SCTM #106-6-13.3 TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Is there anyone here who would like to speak in favor of the application? GLEN JUST: I'm here to answer any questions the Board might have regarding the application. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: There were a couple of things that struck us. One, there is no survey of the property. GLEN: At the north end of the marina replacing timber bulkhead. Instead of playing around doing 'piece meal' which they have been doing previously, they want to do it all in one shot. It's blown out a little bit down there. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Our concern was that after you take in the slop factor of the existing condition of the bulkhead your gonna be coming out 3 to 4 feet in a lot of areas. GLEN: I don't know about 3 or 4 feet. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: At least. We looked at it from that perspective. GLEN: We're working now with the DEC and Army Corps and they're looking into it now and it's material that they like and they're pushing away from creosote or CCA. And perhaps they would chang~ the law and they're policy to do something like that to use material that you would not have to replace and doesn't have the heavy metal on it. They're weighing the different options. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: We have no problem with them putting it in place. Just to put in a section at a time. There is a pretty good 'belly' in a lot of it. TRUSTEE SMITH: Move to close the hearing. TRUSTEE KING: Second. ALL AYES TRUSTEE KING: I'll make a motion to reconstruct inplace and if they can't do that they can come back and amend the permit. TRUSTEE SMITH: Second. ALL AYES 3. J.M.O. Consulting on behalf of~-~/~N~requests a Wetland Permit to construct a 4' X~l~6' catwalk, a 4' X 15' ramp and a 6' X 30' float with 4 put piles. Located: Private Road, Fishers Island. SCTM #3-2-7 TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Move to recess the application until next month's inspection. TRUSTEE KING: Second. ALL AYES o f ~ ~ ~'.~ ~uest & 4. En-Consulting on behalf .... ~ ...... ~ a Wetland Coastal Erosion Permit to construct a one-family dwelling, deck, revetment, sanitary system, bluestone driveway, underground utilities, and 265 c.y. of clean sand fill will be trucked in. Located: 58235 North Road, Greenport. SCTM ~44-2-11 TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Is there anyone here who would like to speak on behalf of this application? TODD WASKUCH: I'm here to answer any questions you might have. JOHN NICHOLS: I'm a native of Southold and a licensed Real Estate broker and I have been handling Mrs. Taske~'s property for about 12 years along with other people in my line of work. As you are probably aware you have previously granted a permit and extensions and they have expired and she is back here to get them reinstated for whatever the application might be. I would just like to point out to you the reason for the sale is precipitated by the death of her husband in September of 1997. she endeavored to sell the property after that. But because she did not have permits it was always unsuccessful. She did find one buyer who did not practice due diligence and took the property off the market for three years. Then she finally went through En-Consultants through Roy Haje, and he pursued the permits over different levels. It took a substantial length of time and money. When she finally secured the permits the market had disappeared. We were in a recession. Now the market is back good again and she has no permits. And as you can understand for a small parcel like this no frugal buyer would purchase this property without permits in place or they have to go get them. What she is trying to do is put the property back in the permit positions so she can market the property. I'm not aware of any substantial changes in the law or situation there that would cause you not to be able to do this. But I would suggest to you that it would probably be the right thing to do if you could see your way clear to re-establish and grant the permits so she could move forward. There are other agencies involved with substantial length of time. Because as you know the real estate market is a precarious thing and she should strike while the "iron is hot". Thank you for your consideration. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: There's only one question we had and because it came up on field inspection and we asked our Town Attorney to review it, I'd rather not vote on this tonight. Because I just got this tonight from him. And it's in relation to the Coastal Erosion Law. I'd really like to take a closer look at that because we didn't take a good look at it when we approved this some 4 or 5 years ago. I'd like to table this and take a better look at this and the Board hasn't had a chance to review it. Did this receive Coastal Erosion the first time? CLERK: Yes. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: We have 4 applications here that we approved under the Wetland Code, but did not approve under the Coastal Erosion over two years ago. What is that paper? Is that gonna change TRUSTEE FOSTER: things? TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: just got it. TRUSTEE SMITH: TRUSTEE FOSTER: TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: TRUSTEE FOSTER: I don't know, we'll have to take a look. We I don't see any reason to delay it again, Al. Was it approved under Coastal Erosion before? Yes. How can they pick this one out and say, "you can't do anything yet"? SUSAN TASKER: I'm a native of Greenport in Southold Town. There was a Coastal Erosion permit and it's all on file. Mr. Haje represents me and has it, I have it and anybody who knows about this has it. Last year I was told by your representatives that if I started something, like putting fill in, which I did, to the tune of $500 that that would be considered as an act of trying to start something and that would be forever. Now this was told to me by your office. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Who told you this? MRS. TASKER: Jill Doherty. Who was then your Secretary. This is what I was told. And this is what I told Mr. Smith. He knew about it, and John Nichols and anybody else that I talked to. Whitey Screzcick gave me a receipt, and I have that, saying that this $500 of fill was to keep the permits valid. Now that was a year ago. Since then you have changed it and you said no, that didn't count. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: No, we didn't change anything. Nobody ever said that by placing some fill on the property would activate a permit. No Board Member ever told you that. MRS. TASKER: Doesn't Diane represent you? If she told me something wouldn't that be the same as Jill? TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: The Board would have to make that decision. And the Board has made decisions on that subject in the past. Not on your lot, but on other lots to say what is in fact in this month. MRS. TASKER: But that is what I was told, and I just wanted to bring this up. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Well, that is unfortunate. MRS. TASKER: Very unfortunate. Thank you. TRUSTEE SMITH: I don't know why you can't go ahead on this. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Well you might want to take a look at this. It's under Coastal Erosion, Section 37-13B Structural Hazard Area. TODD: Your main concern then is whether she has a Coastal Erosion Permit. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Well no, that was just a ...... TODD: Or whether the Coastal Erosion Permit has change over time? TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: The Structural Hazard Area would be defined as those shore lands located landward of natural protective features. And having shorelines receding at a long time average recession rate of one foot or more per year. The inland boundary of a Structural Hazard Area is calculated by starting at the landward limit fronting natural protective feature and measuring along a line perpendicular to the shore line. A horizontal distance landward which is 40 times a long term average annual recession rate. That's just definitions. The Code of Chapter 37-13 states Structural Hazard Area is, "the construction of non-movable structures or placement of non-movable additions to an existing structure is prohibited. I think based on that we would have to take a look at it again based on, "is this a Structural Hazard Area"? TODD: The adjacent owners are bulkheaded I believe. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: That's correct. I don't see how we can approve this without looking at that, given this information. It might not apply. TRUSTEE SMITH: Any information on it? CLERK: He (referring to Town Attorney) recommended that we not vote on this until we go over this Chapter. JOHN NICHOLS: This had Coastal Erosion Permits before, you've examined previous plans and it shows exactly what is required. pilings were to be driven into the ground to raise the structure over certain elevations. This gentleman has the permit in his hand. I have seen them. I think it's a shame you agreed that people come before all Trustees and the Public to come see these things and the Town Attorney can't have his comments for you gentleman in time so you are able to make your decisions. TRUSTEE FOSTER: We're kind of used to that. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Do you have DEC permits? TODD: We have already spoken to Mark Carrera today and he is leaning towards extending the original permit. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: So you don't have DEC? TODD: Not officially. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Do you have Health Dept. approval? TODD: We have Health Dept. approval. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: 'We were proposing to hold this back for a month to make another decision. I don't think a month is gonna affect it as far as the DEC or Health Dept. You still have to get the other permits. I'd rather take a look at this. We just got this information. I feel pretty awkward about just saying yes, we have it, stuff in the file, and that's it, just disregard it. JOHN COSTELLO:' I'm not in favor or against the project, except the Board should consider the special circumstances that exist on this property when there are two adjacent bulkheaded areas and the liability of leaving undeveloped and unencumbered without a structure for any length of time, certainly jeopardizes the entire coastal structures of both these adjoining properties. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I couldn't agree with you more. The applicant had a permit for 4 years from this Board to act on this. MR. COSTELLO: Yesterday is gone. Every application has it's own merit and it should be considered. You know the answers going to be today yes, because they have to protect their property, and you know there is adjoining bulkheads. TRUSTEE FOSTER: What is this something that existed in the Code all along and he ..... TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Yes. I asked him to take a look at this after we looked at it last month and we saw that ...... you see 4 years ago there was a different Board. So we went out and looked at it as a new application, because it's not the same Board. We looked at it from a Wetland standpoint and at Coastal Erosion. And the Coastal Erosion line goes .... almost the whole project is in front of the Coastal Erosion line. From that standpoint we. said, "we'd better look at Coastal Erosion and see what that Code says". What we have to determine is the Structural Hazard Area and see if that definition fits this piece of property. Which is might or might not. TRUSTEE FOSTER: Well if this has been in there for a while and the permit has been issued on either side of it I wouldn't stumble around on this. If you have a house on either side and you don't put something up there, it's gonna wash that whole thing right out. TRUSTEE SMITH: TRUSTEE FOSTER: issue a permit. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: TRUSTEE SMITH: TRUSTEE FOSTER: I agree. It's worse not to issue a permit than it is to Are there any other comments? I'll make a motion to close the public hearing. Second. ALL AYES TRUSTEE SMITH: I'll make a motion to approve the application. TRUSTEE KING: Second. ALL AYES 5. En-Consultants Inc., on behal~ of request a Wetland Permit to construct a 112+' bulkhead within 12" of existing concrete seawall with a 6' return on west side, backfill with approx. 150 c.y. of clean sand, a new bulkhead to be 1' higher in elevation than existing seawall and gather existing quarry stone from failed groin as toe stone. Located: 1392 Park Ave., Mattituck. SCTM #123-8-2 TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Is there anyone here who would like to speak in favor of the application? TODD: I'm here to represent the applicants. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: This is similar to the next one. The Board took a look at this and this is another one of those situations where we don't have a problem with the applicant protecting their property but we don't want to see it extended out into public property. In other words inplace replacement. TODD: Tom Samuels was supposed to be here help me go through this with you. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Would you like to put these two off until the end of the meeting? TODD: Yes. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: OK. I'll make a motion to table the application until the end of the public hearing. TRUSTEE KING: So moved. ALL AYES east side, and backfill with approx. 150 c.y. of clean sand and new bulkhead to be 1' higher in elevation than existing seawall. Located: 1470 Park Ave., Mattituck. SCTM #123-8-3 TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I'll move to table this one too until the end of the public hearing. TRUSTEE KING: So moved. ALL AYES vinyl bulkhead and backfill with approx. 50 c.y. of clean sand fill to be trucked in from upland source. Located: 1600 Park Ave., Mattituck. SCTM #123-8-4 TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Is there anyone here who would like to speak in favor of the application? TODD: I represent the applicant if you have any questions. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: This is pretty straight forward. TRUSTEE SMITH: Move to close the hearing. TRUSTEE KING: Second. ALL AYES TRUSTEE KING: I'll make a motion to approve the application. TRUSTEE SMITH: Second. ALL AYES 8. Land Use on behalf of~ ~ ~ · ~'~ ~ uests a Wetland Permit to construct a single family dwelling, deck and pool and approx. 125 s.f. of clean fill required for proposed septic system. Located: 2503 Camp Mineola Road, Mattituck. SCTM #122-9-9.4 TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Is there anyone here who would like to speak in favor of the application? TANYA LACKENMEYER: I'm here on behalf of Edward Fox. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I see CAC recommended disapproval. Why would that be Scott? SCOTT HILARY: We're concerned with a bigger picture of the whole area. What has happened is the house adjacent to that to the west with the paved structure, the road that has been put in place that seems like it's right in the delineation line of the wetland. We're just concerned with further development and that's an important area, an important buffer zone. It seems it's a little closer than the survey indicates with the delineation and with that road there that permanent concrete structure it's tough to identify where the original wetlands has gone. In addition to the house that is there to the west, it seems like it's been filled in quite a bit and that delineation line has moved as well. We're loosing an important system and it's just another home going up in that area. I don't know how that road was ever approved to begin with. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Camp Mineola was filled in ..... TRUSTEE FOSTER: That's all hydraulic filled from years ago. SCOTT: Well that's why you have a crack. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Yes, it's a mess. SCOTT: Right, but there's a delineation line currently for the wetland and that paved structure there is basically through it. TRUSTEE FOSTER: Well that paved structure is on filled land. SCOTT: Well not necessarily, if you look to that house I'm referencing to the west, that's in the same situation but it's a little closer to the wetland system. It's basically right on top. That delineation has moved. There's a turf going right up to the system just about. TRUSTEE FOSTER: What happened was that the wetlands kind of grew into the house. That was open at one time. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: When we looked at the site it seemed like like between the existing road and the house site, it seems to be a low area there. They want to put that house sort of straddling that low area. It seemed the more obvious location would be closer to the bay where they have higher ground. SCOTT: Didn't they hit water on the survey too? TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Well at the low point sure. SCOTT: I would like to see a structure closer to the bay. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: That's what we would rather see too. The sensitive area is to the north. SCOTT: The other question we had is an "A" flood zone? TRUSTEE FOSTER: For what? As far as FEMA? SCOTT: Yes. TRUSTEE FOSTER: Well the house next door was built by the same regulations. SCOTT: Because if you look at that house that seems like it's 3 feet above whatever the initial filled grade level was. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: But it's pretty close in elevation. That pool of that existing house is pretty close in elevation. We'll meet next month with Land Use and Mr. Fox and have him stake it out where the house could be. I'll make a motion to recess this application until next month. TRUSTEE SMITH: Second. ALL AYES 9. Ocean Construction on behalf of ~ uests a Wetland Permit to replace approx. 18~ ~ulkhead within 18", install a 4' X 8' platform, a 2 1/2' X 14' ramp, and an 8' X 30' floating dock. Located: 2260 Peconic Bay Blvd., Laurel. SCTM #145-4-4 TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Is there anyone here who would like to speak in favor of the application? ROBERT W. KNAPP: I'm the property owner. TRUSTEE SMITH: The only problem I have is they want an 8' X 30' float, and we require a 6' X 20' float. MR. KNAPP: Fine. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: And we would like tO see it put in place not inkind, and we would like a non-turf buffer. You can put plantings in or gravel or whatever you choose. MR. KNAPP: Inplace. Does that mean 18" in front of .... TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: No. TRUSTEE FOSTER: It means take the old one out and put another in its' place. TRUSTEE SMITH: Motion to close the hearing. TRUSTEE FOSTER: Second. ALL AYES TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I'll make a motion to approve with condition that there be a 10' non-turf buffer, that bulkhead be placed inplace, and a 6' X 20' float only and that old float be removed. TRUSTEE SMITH: Second. ALL AYES backfill lost in a 10' X 105' area. Located: ROW off Peconic Bay Blvd., Laurel. SCTM #145-4-14 TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Is there anyone here who would like to speak in favor of the application? ARTHUR SMITH: I represent the 10 residents of the AssOciation. We have already received our permits from the State and waiting on yours. The bulkhead is very old and needs replacing-badly. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: We didn't have a problem with the bulkhead replacement. The only thing that raised a question was the dredging portion of it. That's Town bottom in front of that, and when someone dredges on Town owned bottom we charge $10 a c.y. I don't know if we are going to approve that anyway. We looked at that, but did you ever do soundings. What we don't want to see is a hole there, along side the bulkhead. MR. SMITH: The basin is so badly filled in that at low tide there is no water in it. I would guess that even if we did some dredging along the side of the bulkhead what's out there in the middle would tend to fill in. In the last storm the basin was literally dry. There was no water and an eel was flopping around the top of the bottom. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: You probably couldn't get him either. MR. SMITH: No. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: So we're gonna need some sort of soundings for elevations. You can go out to what it is adjacent to your ..... if you'd like and it's any use to you we could segment this and handle the dredging on a separate application and we could approve the bulkhead tonight. Because we really want to see if there is a lip built up by the docks I don't think we have a problem with them taking that out. Because what you do is create a dead bottom. If there's a hump there and you keep it flat with the rest the marine life will grow there like normal. But if you put a hole there it will silt in and be a dead bottom. MR. SMITH: OK. Where does that leave us now with you. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I'm trying to think of the easiest way to do this for you. MR. SMITH: The bulkhead is adjacent to Mr. Knapps' bulkheading and we're hoping we can do this all at the same time. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Do you have DEC permits. Yes. One of the problems we are facing is the infrequent flow of water that's being caused by the bridge and the inability to flush out the basin which is then the responsibility of the association and the adjoining property owners. So we're kind of caught between a rock and the mud. TRUSTEE FOSTER: What's the mouth of that look like, the Inlet by the Bay? MR. SMITH: That's a sand bottom that has been dredged by the County. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: What's it look like now? MR. SMITH: Interestingly enough the hurricane opened it up. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: It's up to you, if you think the month is gonna make a difference as far as getting a contract or doing the work, we can split this off and approve the bulkheading. Otherwise we'll table it and do it all next month. MR. SMITH: What is it you have to do? TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: We want to see soundings. MR. SMITH: How is that done? TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: You have to go out there and put on your plan. Instead of showing 2 feet by the dock, you can go out further and say 50 or 100 feet and show the depths all the way out. MR. KNAPP: You mean the depths of water? TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Yes, the depths of water. At typical low tide it's fairly consistent. It's either 6 inches or 8 inches and when the wind is right it's zero. TRUSTEE KING: Basically it's all pretty flat in there. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I'll make a motion to recess this hearing until next month~ TRUSTEE KING: Second. ALL AYES 11. Costello Marine on behalf of~i~!!~M~ER~:~equests a Wetland Permit to construct 63' of vinyl bulkhead behind the existing bulkhead. Located: 2400 Minnehaha Blvd. Southold. SCTM #87-3-58 TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Is there anyone here who wishes to speak in favor of the application? JOHN COSTELLO: I'm the agent for the application. I notices on the description that it says behind the existing bulkhead, the drawings show in front of the bulkhead because the location of the house is 8' from the existing bulkhead. The property just adjacent and to the north of that was done in front of the bulkhead and we will be continuing along that same line. TRUSTEE SMITH: I understand your gonna take the pilings out? JOHN: Yes. We want it right up against it. It's hard to fill. The only thing we'd have to fill is between the two pieces of sheathing. The corner of Lohn's as it is right now out there is gonna be right to this sheathing. TRUSTEE SMITH: In other words the helical screws will be about 6 to 8 inches in front of the one existing there now. JOHN: Yes. The channel narrows up but doesn't narrow up at that location. The next piece of property to the south is an island and starts to restrict the channel. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: He's gonna have to.put in dry wells for his roof run off or whatever the pipe is draining through the bulkhead. Normally we would want to see it inkind but in this case ...... we look at everyone differently. JOHN: Good. We're going through the expense ....... we-don't involve the other properties and the house. The cost would be prohibitively expensive to move the house back. We are going to install helical screw enders in it's place which is more expensive. We did that same thing on the Lohn application where there was a property line issue. DEC would not allow us to go across the property line to put a backing system in. TRUSTEE KING: Do you put in any drain holes in that plastic? JOHN: No, plastic drains anyway. None of the bulkheads are water tight except the vinyl has more of a tendency to retain water and have to have a more adequate backing system. Nothing is water tight. Ground pressure is .... the sandy soil will bring down ...... but the vinyl has a tendency to hold up more than wood. You can de-water. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: There must be a tremendous amount of hydraulic pressure then, JOHN: With the sandy soil in that area it's dredge spoil, it's good clean fine granular sand. It percolates vertically more than horizontally. By putting in drainage inland is certainly accommodating. TRUSTEE SMITH: Motion to close the hearing. TRUSTEE POLIWODA: Second. ALL AYES TRUSTEE SMITH: I'll make a motion to approve the application with condition be in front of and attached to the existing bulkhead, that the pipe be disconnected, drywells be put on for roof run off be done. TRUSTEE KING: Second. ALL AYES 12. Frank Sayer on behalf of ~9~~~!~equests a Wetland Permit to remove a ~ere±i~ barge Irom site, z£oating boom and silt screen to be installed around barge and anchored to shore during removal as a sediment and erosion control. Located: 925 Naugles Drive, Mattituck. SCTM #99-4-13.1 TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Is there anyone here who would like to speak in favor of the application? TRUSTEE SMITH: Motion to close the hearing. TRUSTEE KING: Second. ALL AYES TRUSTEE KING: I'll make the motion to approve the application. TRUSTEE POLIWODA: Second. ALL AYES 13. John Geldeman on behalf of_ equests a Wetland Permit to construct a 100 long bulkhead. Located: 3327 Manhaset Ave., Greenport. SCTM #36-2-23.4 TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Is there anyone here who wishes to speak in favor of the application? RICHARD BUTLER: When you people were out the last time Mr. Tuthill was scheduled to come and ~eet,with you but unfortunately.he had a prior ~ommitme~t.~--~,~,~-- ~ So now he is here. LARRY TUTHILL. I have a ~eers license. In reviewing the site some ha~eVmentio~ed~ the use of rocks. When you use rocks in the area its like land mines. The land becomes unusable. We have just now in the storm "Floyd" we had rock gabions at the Orient State Park. It is not similar to the use here, but the use of rocks is not advisable. You loose so much land and there's no value. The second was mention the use of plantings. Plantings are very good in areas where you have sand moving back and forth. But they are valueless in areas where they are subject to coastal waters. They have no root system. The minute the water touches them they disintegrated. There's no roots to hold the sand. So what we're doing is applying for a bulkhead. We have done this similar on the Cardinale property in Cutchogue at Nassau Point. It had worked very successfully. What happens if we don't put this bulkhead in is the land will continue to erode and the worst part of it is it smothers the wetlands. We're trying to save our wetlands and the easiest way to do it is put a little bulkhead there without any great expense. We haven't destroyed the land by use of rocks. Your trying to say, "Try to put plantings in there." And in ten years we find the plantings don't hold. Then it's too late. It's time now to build the bulkhead there so sand and the upward land does not smother the wetlands. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: We were out on the site in May and we went out again this month and for the past two months we have had heavy rains. We could tell there was active erosion in that sidewalk area. This time it was very clear. The source of the erosion was the upland. You have all that water coming off the upland channeling down that sidewalk digging into the bank. MR. TUTHILL: But you've got to stop it. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: But you stop the water flow. You don't put the ambulance at the bottom of the hill. You stop it at the top. MR. TUTHILL: There's also erosion also back further. A lot of these places are like White Hill. White Hill was all covered with grass and all of a sudden the bottom eroded and the storms comes in and cuts the bottom and then there's the white hill and in time it grows over, and several years later 20 or 30 years later, it undermines the bottom again and then it erodes again. It's what's happening here. That land is continuing to erode. Maybe not today, or tomorrow, but all of a sudden in a storm 5 or 10 years later the land is cut back. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: There's no question that the land is eroding but the source is the upland. MR. TUTHILL: Your only talking about the one spot where the walkway is. In the other areas also is eroding. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Well we walked the bank on the south side and there's a little hole dug there besides that we couldn't see any erosion. MR. TUTHILL: No, what I'm saying is it continually erodes. You don't see any evidence of it now, no. But throughout the years 10 or 20 years it has eroded. And it continues to erode. TRUSTEE FOSTER: Anything happen with the storm last week? MR. TUTHILL: No. This particular storm there was no real storm. It was a non-event. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: We have a question on the survey done here. It doesn't appear that the bulkhead is proposed on Mr. Butler's property. Just judging by what's shown here. It shows the property line here and then it shows the property line here (indicating on survey). But then it shows the bulkhead way out in front. It shows 98 feet from the house to the property line. It shows the bulkhead well in front of that. MR. TUTHILL: This is just a survey of that property, but I think you'll find out that the property extends beyond that. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: But that's not what's shown. MR. TUTHILL: They own to the Mean High Water. And the deed is probably to Mean High Water. Because my deed adjacent to it is to Mean High Water. He just drew the line between the two lines there. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: We weren't quite sure why. MR. TUTHILL: That's the reason. He just took the monuments. But the deeds are to Mean High Water. MR. BUTLER: I didn't care how far back ..... I would come back .... because this really is not a bulkhead per se. It's not holding water back, it's to hold the land back. I would come up as far as right off the edge of that sidewalk and go across on both sideS. TRUSTEE POLIWODA: I don't see a need for it. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: CAC recommends disapproval. TRUSTEE SMITH: I think the whole problem is that sidewalk. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Yes, we all took a look at that and we talked to Mr. Butler about that. That the water causing the erosion is coming off the property. MR. TUTHILL: At that point, but the other area is too. MR. BUTLER: That's not the only spot that's eroding. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: That's the active erosion. MR. TUTHILL: But there is other erosion also'. When we built the Cardinale there was some erosion but when you built the bulkhead that stopped it all and then real wetlands were growing on the other side of it. It was super. It's that way today. It doesn't kill the wetlands. It helps it out. Because this way land when it erodes goes down and covers the marsh. This is helping to save the marsh. People talk about toe scour. They don't understand toe scour. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: We didn't see any toe scour. MR. TUTHILL: There wouldn't be any toe scour on a bank like that. You wouldn't see it. But when you build a bulkhead all the other stuff is based on "oh no, that causes toe scour". They don't even understand it. There wouldn't be any toe scour there anyhow because it's protected waters. That's why there's wetlands growing in there. But if you allow that upland to cover it you've lost the wetlands. If by building a bulkhead there, you've stopped it. TRUSTEE SMITH: I think you have to clear up that water problem coming down that sidewalk before you can do anything. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Because there is active erosion there. That's what we saw. MR. TUTHILL: We know that. That's just a matter of putting drywells in there. But that isn't gonna alleviate the other problem we talked about. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: But we didn't see any other problem. Did anyone else see erosion on the bank there? TRUSTEE FOSTER: I only happened to notice where the sidewalk was. There and where the dock was put in. SCOTT: The plants that were currently there were doing an excellent job of maintaining that bank, but they've been cut for some time. Now they are degrading and decomposing and that's why your getting erosion. MR. BUTLER: There is also trees that have fallen right down into the water. You saw the roots there. Those trees went down. Because the roots there was just sticking out not water from the sidewalk did that. TRUSTEE SMITH: That was right next to the dock. MR. BUTLER: That's only one spot though. TRUSTEE SMITH: Yes, that's all from the sidewalk. MR. BUTLER: No. TRUSTEE SMITH: I disagree. MR. BUTLER: I've been there longer, I would know. You could see by that root system that that didn't just happen. MR. TUTHILL: The two properties more or less to the east or south of me are both bulkheaded. Clempner and Mandel's property both have wetlands in front of their property. They're both bulkheaded. They're saving the wetlands. Your gonna ask us to destroy the wetlands because of the inability to protect them. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I don't see how they are gonna be destroyed there. There's a healthy wetland there and I don't see where it's being destroyed. MR. TUTHILL: If you look at it closely you'll see where that bank is eroding. It's all covered with leaves and if a storm comes and then all of a sudden this is what I'm talking about after the horse is out of the barn we are gonna close the door. I think you closed the door before hand not after. If you look two houses down you'll see nothing but a barren beach. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: That's not natural. If you you to Down's Creek a natural creek, it doesn't look like that. Who put the orange fence there? What's going on there? What's going on there? Why doesn't the grass there? It's amazing. It's a mystery. I think if the wetlands are growing well leave it alone. Don't try to protect it, it's thriving. MR. TUTHILL: No, but you can't let it smother. Sand will smother it, right? TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Yes. MR. TUTHILL: Alright, the uplands can smother the wetlands. We're trying to stop the uplands from going on it. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Yes, but the water is pushing the sand down from the top. It's not from the tidal action.{ MR. TUTHILL: The tidal action will do it, yes. You get a storm in there, that's what we're talking about. When we have these storms that's when it's eroding. Maybe it's only once every ten years. But that's when it goes. And that's when it smothers the wetland. TRUSTEE SMITH: The only reason it'll erode in the storm is because the run off from the sidewalk washed all the plant life away. MR. TUTHILL: No. You mean to tell me the waves won't destroy it? ~ TRUSTEE SMITH: Oh, I'm sure they will if the ground is eroded. But they're being eroded from the sidewalk rain. If you correct the problem at the top of the hill the bottom will correct itself. MR. TUTHILL: No, the bottom won't correct itself, if the storm gets at it. It will clean it right out. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: No, the Wetlands will grown in and protect his property. If you look at a natural marsh you don't have that. Where ever it has been disturbed you have a problem. I think the Board is unconvinced that the bulkhead is gonna protect Mr. Butler's property when it's the upland that is creating the erosion. MR. TUTHILL: You willing to stand before a judge and tell him your a professional and you know what your doing? TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I'm getting paid to do this, I must be a professional. MR. TUTHILL: As a Town Engineer? TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: No, as a Town Trustee. MR. TUTHILL: When you question what an engineer says something structurally? TRUSTEE SMITH: We had the DEC out with us that day and they were professional people, and they agreed that the upland was the problem. That was an expert. MR. TUTHILL: You'll find out that the Coastal Engineers are up in Albany. There are no Coastal Engineers in Region I. Quite often the Coastal Engineers up in Albany disagree with those who are in Region I. So you did not have experts there. They may give you the opinion they are experts but they're not qualified. TRUSTEE SMITH: Whether they are qualified or not that was their job. They were hired by the State to rectify erosion problems and that's what they did. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: And this is our job. I'm a ~farmer and I'm familiar with soil and not any kind of engineer, and I'm familiar with soil and water erosion. MR. TUTHILL: No coastal engineering. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: It' got nothing to do with coastal waters. This is upland erosion. MR. TUTHILL: That's why your thinking the way you are. But your not familiar with coastal waters. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Well I am familiar with coastal waters. I'm not an engineer but I am familiar with coastal waters. MR. TUTHILL: That wouldn't hold up in court. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: It might. MR. TUTHILL: No, your not allowed to represent this town as a coastal engineer. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: No, I wouldn't ever represent the town as a coastal engineer because I'm not an engineer. TRUSTEE SMITH: Just look at the land as see what that has to say. MR. TUTHILL: I am looking. I live there. TRUSTEE SMITH: You don't have to be an expert to look at something and see what it's telling you. MR. BUTLER: Like I said to you I understand that was part of the problem along the sidewalk area. I said that with a couple of 4 X 4's put down there up against the sidewalk area six feet or back would take care of the problem. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Where does the water go though? MR. BUTLER: It will run over the deck. TRUSTEE SMITH: Then you'll have a problem somewhere else. MR. BUTLER: You told me that was OK. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: No, because that will cut the bank apart still. That water is still gonna flow downhill. MR. BUTLER: It's gonna go down over the bridge going out to the dock. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: You don't have to be an engineer to know the water is going to flow downhill there. MR. BUTLER: That's right. But I'm saying on both sides of the sidewalk if I put 4 X 4's in there the water is going to run down out over the dock and down into the sand. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: And just keep cutting into the bank apart underneath the dock. MR. BUTLER: No, it's not. MR. TUTHILL: .It's usually the dock that is the channel that it gets over. MR. BUTLER: If you look underneath there I have put big stones under there. TRUSTEE SMITH: That's what we recommend put stones there. MR. BUTLER: Under the dock. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I thought stone was no good. MR. BUTLER: I did that as a temporary fix. In the mean time I decided to go ahead and process the bulkhead. SCOTT: Is this sidewalk, is it make of concrete? MR. BUTLER: Yes. SCOTT: Just to help the situation, can't you remove that and put something pervious. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Well he needs to control the water coming down either through drywells or do a little berm. SCOTT: Take that walkway back seaward to landward. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Well it's the whole property that's draining down, not just the sidewalk. TRUSTEE FOSTER: If you put a bulkhead in there where do you intend that water to go? TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: The water is still gonna flow over it. TRUSTEE FOSTER: Putting that bulkhead in isn't gonna stop that water. That water is coming from upland. So if it comes doWn and meets that bulkhead it's going to build up and go over the. bulkhead and it's gonna do the same thing on the other side of the bulkhead that it's doing next to the sidewalk. Unless you put drywells in to contain the water. MR. TUTHILL: The soil is porous enough so that most of the water will down. Except when you have an extreme storm. Along the rest of the area the soil is porous enough so that when you have rain it goes down into the soil TRUSTEE FOSTER: I understand that Larry, but when you have 5 inches in an hour like we've been having lately there's nothing that will take it that fast, not even drains. MR. TUTHILL: If you noticed there it's rather wooded. If that remains wooded like that that more than likely will take. Wood lands will take probably 80% of run off. TRUSTEE FOSTER: But what's not taking it is the sidewalk. TRUSTEE FOSTER: Are you planning on putting in bulkheading and changing the contour of the land as well? MR. TUTHILL: No, but you build it up high enough so it's equal to the land behind you. So you don't have the run off. Your holding the water on the land itself. TRUSTEE FOSTER: But when it builds up it's gonna flow over the bulkhead. MR. TUTHILL: No, all the bulkheads we've ever built you don't see any great water running o~f them. I've never seen it. TRUSTEE SMITH: Move to close the hearing. TRUSTEE POLIWODA: Second. ALL AYES TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I"ll make a motion to deny. the application based on standards set in Chapter 97-28 that the operations would adversely affect the wetlands of the town by putting fill and lawn up to that area that would cause damage from erosion turbidity and siltation when a stormhits it and the wave energy is forced back into the wetlands, it would damage the wetlands and that it would increase the danger of flood and storm tide damage. Right now the marsh is acting as a natural storm buffer to the property if they put that bulkhead in as shown on the drawing and plans submitted. It would prevent the storms energy from dissipating and instead it would concentrate the storms energy in a wetland area that's grown there. It could possibly weaken and undermine the littoral support of the lands on either side by putting in a hard structure and the returns. TRUSTEE SMITH: Second. ALL AYES 14 DOUGLAS FOERTH requests ~j~~j~m~ to construct a 4' X ~' catwalk, a 30" X 16 ramp-~-O a 5 X 20 float. Located: 700 Beebe Drive, Cutchogue. SCTM ~97-7-6 TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Is there anyone here who would like to speak in favor of the application? JOHN COSTELLO: I'm the agent for Mr. Foerth. After meeting with the Trustees on the site and discussions with Mr. Foerth, we modified the application to include a lower retaining wall which is approx, halfway between high water and low water, and to vegetate that small buffer. The application also requested dredging. I surveyed the bottom there and the deepest part was two feet out in the center for a depth at low water. We tried to maintained that. The retaining wall would have no water on one side and on the other side two feet of water at low tide. We submitted new drawings. The only modification that is on that drawing and what was just read is the float request is for a 6' X 20' instead of the 5' X 20' that was on his original drawing for stability. You will see that the 6 foot does not incur any width to the existing channel way where that float would be sitting totally on dry bottom. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: It looks exactly like what we talked about in the field. MR. COSTELLO: I did go to Strong's Marina and investigated their retaining wall which is designed after a marina. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Our concern here was the navigation. Our concern was that it would block the passage way. FRANK RO~ANO: That was my concern. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: This type of system here, it's a low retaining wall right in front. MR. ROMANO: How far out from this property is it? TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: It shows 11 feet from the top of the bank. MR. ROMANO: I want to know from his property line. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I don't know. Let's take a look at it. MR. ROMANO: I brought~a copy of my deed. His deed is gonna be exactly the same. I wish you would read it. It's very short. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: "together with the use of said canal leading to Eugene's Creek for access between said premise and Eugene's Creek subject how to the use of said canal by adjacent owners for access to and from Eugene's Creek. Party to the second party however agrees to pay his pro-rated share of expense for maintaining said canal at a proper depth for boating purposes" MR. ROMANO: Your talking about a private canal. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Whose claiming title to the ..... MR. ROMANO: Both. This is my deed to my home. Everybody owns 15 out from their property line. You don't know what he is proposing. Where is his property line? TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Well, it shows to the top of the bank here. MR. ROMANO: Is it within the 15 feet? TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: It looks like it. MR. ROMANO: Well he should have it surveyed. As long as I got room to get for my boat, there's three other people there. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: The intent of this proposal is to make a cut into ..... MR. ROMANO: Why don't you let the man make a cut like the rest of us? TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: He can, no one is stopping him. TRUSTEE FOSTER: We would rather see that. Then his boat is on his property. MR. ROMANO: Well he should be denied because I think it would interfere with us going out into Eugene's Creek. That thing is low and when you get low tide you don't have too much area to go through. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: We have a policy that the dock and the boat can't go more than 1/3 across. I'll make a motion to recess this application until we go out on the next field inspection and have it staked out. TRUSTEE KING: Second. ALL AYES favor of the application? TODD: The concrete wall seems to be at least a foot thick. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: It seemed to get thicker at the bottom. TODD: ( Could not hear him, shuffling of papers) TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I don't think the height was an issue% Because you already have that retaining wail behind it. I think it's the fact that your encroaching further out into public property. I don't see the 6 foot return on the west side. That's a pretty substantial jog coming off the west side. It will be sticking out. SCOTT: The east side comes out even 8 feet as well. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: That was our feeling, that if you wanted to replace it in place. We couldn't see where it needed to be replaced right away either. Nothing was gonna remove that cement. TODD: There were a lot of cracks on it. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: It seemed pretty sound. TODD: Do you want to table this? TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Sure. You also have to work with the State. I don't know if they're gonna have any objection to going out further. MR. COSTELLO: We had a quick discussion in the hallway, and one of the problems with doing it inplace and inkind with a concrete wall is the weight and type of equipment necessary to remove that concrete wall and the disposal cost of that wall. When you go to the dump that poundage goes up pretty fast. The toe of this thing ...... if you took this wall out that retaining wall the wood one would not be there. It's just too close~ So the cost involved in removing that wall would be ...... TRUSTEE FOSTER: There's as much under that as there is above it. MR. COSTELLO: It's a gravity wall, but the beach level is probably lower now. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Somebody built that to last. Is it gonna go anywhere soon? MR. COSTELLO: I don't know, I haven't inspected it. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Because it looks as if you patched it, it would last another 500 years. MR. COSTELLO: Well concrete rots too. TRUSTEE FOSTER: That one is fine, but the one next to it is all flopped over. MR. COSTELLO: I think you want entertain not removing the wall but possible anything that is collapsing to any degree, have it removed so that the line is as close as practical to an existing structure. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: What about the vital wall behind that and using that as protection. MR. COSTELLO: Your gonna find that the back side of this wall is bigger than the front. They usually have on a gravity wall, to have it tapered inland. That's the best way to build the bulk and weight. SCOTT: The secondary bulkhead is quite sound. MR. COSTELLO: It's too close. TRUSTEE SMITH: He has only two alternative. Either repair what's there or build in front of it. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Well it's State land, I'd. be ..... TRUSTEE SMITH: Well that's up to the State. TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I'll make a motion to table the application. TRUSTEE KING: Second. ALL AYES TRUST~~SKI: I 11 make a motion to table the application. TRUSTEE KING: Second. ALL AYES TRUSTEE KRUPSKI moved to go back to eh regular meeting, TRUSTEE KING seconded. ALL AYES V. RESOLUTIONS" Located: Minnehaha Blvd., Southold. SCTM ~87-3-2.1 & 60 TRUSTEE KRUPSKI moved to approve the request for an Amendment rather than a Waiver, based on Town Engineers review and approval as to how much spoil will be taken out, TRUSTEE KING seconded. ALL AYES retaining wall. Located: 900 Sound Drive, Mattituck. SCTM #99-1-8.1 TRUSTEE KRUPSKI moved to approve the application subject to a cross section and drawing, TRUSTEE POLIWODA seconded. ALL AYES 3. .~i~/~i~quests a Coastal Erosion Permit to construct 2- 40' ~w~p~ofile groins that will begin at the highest point which is at the whaler of the bulkhead and no pre-filling. Located: 130 Cleaves Point Road, East Marion. SCTM 938-2-32 TRUSTEE SMITH moved to approve the application and to remove the "no filling" from original permit, TRUSTEE KING seconded. ALL AYES 4. ~.~Ki!'.~8~]~Nt~!~/~uests a Coastal Erosmon Permit to construct 2- 40' low profJ_le groJ_ns that w~ll begin at the highest vertical point which is at the whaler of the bulkhead and no pre-filling. Located: 290 Cleaves Point Road, East Marion. SCTM #38-2-24 TRUSTEE SMITH moved to approve the application and to remove the "no filling" from original permit, TRUSTEE KING, seconded. ALL AYES 5. ~ ~requests a Coastal Erosion Permit to construct 1- 40' low profile groin that will begin at the highest vertical point which is at the whaler of the bulkhead and no pre-filling. Located: 300 Cleaves Point Road, East Marion. SCTM #38-2-35 TRUSTEE KRUPSKI moved to approve the application and to remove the "no filling" from original permit, TRUSTEE KING seconded. ALL AYES highest vertical point which is at the whaler of the bulkhead and no pre-filling. Located: 200 Cleaves Point Road, East Marion. SCTM #38-2-23 TRUSTEE KRUPSKI moved to approve the application and to remove the "no filling" from original permit, TRUSTEE KING seconded. ALL AYES 7. Paul W. Hayes on behalf o uests a Grandfather Permit for a retaihing wall a~Ikhead. Located: 2235 Cedar Lane, East Marion. SCTM #37-4-7 TRUSTEE FOSTER moved to approve the application, TRUSTEE KING seconded. ALL AYES Meeting Adjourned at: 10:15 p.m. Respectfully Submitted By: Diane J. Herbert, Clerk