HomeMy WebLinkAboutLWRP-02/22/2007
LWRP Coordinating Council
Minutes
Thursday, February 22, 2007
Attendance:
Members:
Ruth Oliva
Michael Simons
Peg Dickerson
Jim King
Heather Cusack
Jamie Richter
Jim McMahon
Jeri Woodhouse
Mark Terry
John Sepenoski
Tom Wickham
Al Krupski
Jack McGreevy
Guests:
Bob Ghosio (Trustees)
Frank Wills (NFEC)
1. Update on violations and revoking Trustees’ permits: Memo was sent to the Town Attorney’s office
requesting that they look into this. John Sep met with Kieran Corcoran to discuss. Kieran is looking into
the concept. John Sep reported that this concept was also discussed during the Trustees moratorium.
2. Update on zoning underwater lands: John Sep met with Scott Russell to discuss this issue and item 3
below. Scott would like the LWRP CC to begin to prioritize its recommendations and suggest time
frames for implementation. Scott believes that the Town will need to hire a consultant to work on the
zoning. Mark Terry confirmed that this can be done with the LWRP grants the Town has received. The
Council discussed the fact that the Department of State is also available to assist the Town with this
project since they strongly recommended the Town proceed with zoning the underwater lands.
3. Update on department coordination issues: Scott Russell with be scheduling a meeting with departments
to begin discussing these issues, some of which are not LWRP related. Council discussed various
coordination issues, e.g. departments moving forward with approvals that may violate Planning Board
Covenants and Restrictions and departments issuing approvals within Trustees’ jurisdiction without any
action by the Trustees. It was suggested that at a minimum departments check for covenants and
restrictions, easements and wetlands on properties upon receiving applications. In the past the Town had a
listing of all parcels that had wetlands on them but this list was generally not used. John Sep pointed out
that Mark Terry’s wetland map has been used to create this same information on the Town’s computer
system and that this could be used to flag parcels that the Trustees should at least examine. Mark
suggested that the Town do more ground truthing of his map. John Sep suggested that the potential new
land use computer database that the Town is considering purchasing/implementing be set up to
incorporate this type of data so that coordination issues can be minimized. The possibility of some
restructuring of Town departments was discussed including the concept of having one entry point into the
process where applicants found out what departments they would need to apply to in order to proceed.
Tom Wickham stated that in theory this is supposed to be what the Building Department currently does.
Several other Council members pointed out issues where applicants go around Building and directly apply
to other departments which ends up causing problems and suggested that this be formalized in a way such
that if Building is going to remain the entry point other departments know that they should not be
accepting applications directly. Jack McGreevy suggested that a Town procedure manual be created and
followed by all departments.
4. Update on BMP document: Information received from the volunteer ended up being a restatement of a
section of the LWRP. This is not what the Council felt it needed. John Sep suggested that since we have
used an intern and a volunteer for a full year and have received nothing usable that we hire someone to
take on this project and create a document similar to documents produced by Shelter Island, East Hampton
and Martha’s Vineyard that explain the benefits of the Town’s rules and regulations with a general idea of
the process without going into great detail on the process. Tom Wickham still felt we needed something
to get applicants through the process without the explanations of the requirements. It was decided that
instead of a BMP document a simplified procedure document should be developed that helps explain what
applicants need to do to get the approvals necessary for their project. Using the volunteer to handle this
was discussed. Bob Ghosio suggested that this be assigned to Heather Cusack. Council agreed that this
had advantages over a volunteer since Heather already has much of the knowledge needed compared to
the volunteer who would be starting from scratch. It is also possible that the volunteer could assist
Heather with this project. The Trustees will discuss this on their own in order to determine whether they
feel Heather would have enough time to take on this project.
5. Update on new CAF: Mark Terry has not made any progress on this but will continue to work on it.
However, he reported that issues with the form have decreased due to expediters and consultants
becoming more familiar with the existing form and learning how to fill it out properly.
6. Update on listing of consistent/inconsistent determinations for review: Mark Terry reported that Carol
Kalin is keeping a log of all determinations that is available for the Council to review.
7. Review public suggestions on Code updates:
a. NFEC: not discussed due to time constraints.
b. Rozakis: not discussed due to time constraints.
c. McGreevy: discussed as part of item 3 above.
8. Bulkhead/jetty/groin “in kind in place” exemptions from LWRP: not discussed due to time constraints.
9. Trustees proposed Amendments to Chapter 275: John Sep read through his comments on the changes and
the Council discussed. Most of the changes are minor in nature and obviously positive. Based on the
discussions some changes are going to be discussed further by the Trustees. These are as follows: for the
maximum increase in area and lot coverage more detail is needed in order to clarify the intent, e.g.
definition of “original structure”, lot coverage being limited to the buildable portion only, maximum
increase also being capped at a fixed amount rather than purely a percentage, adding lot size, etc. For the
changes banning docks in certain areas it was questioned whether the Trustees intent was to ban docks
from NYS Significant Habitats since some of these areas were not listed in the changes. It appears this
was not the intent, the intent was to ban docks from areas where there are no docks but there are
apparently some such areas not listed in the ban. For the deposit of dredge spoils section it was suggested
that additional language be added to make sure the Trustees have control over where the spoils end up.
Contaminated spoils should be disposed of properly, clean spoils that are suitable for local beach
replenishment should not be allowed to end up elsewhere. Al Krupski suggested that the Trustees
consider fixing the jurisdiction versus set back issue in the current code as part of this update. Council
agreed that this was a good idea as having their jurisdiction be the same distance as their minimum set
back does not make sense and causes too much confusion. Based on the fact that not all actions in front of
the Trustees can be mitigated the Council also suggested that the Trustees determine a set back that is in
fact a true set back that cannot be waived. Assuming that this set back is set to be less than their
jurisdiction, which is in fact how it should be anyway, the Trustees will still have their discretionary
powers between the set back distance and jurisdiction distance.
10. Bulkhead specs/final revisions: not discussed due to time constraints.
11. In-house Wetlands Code notes: not discussed due to time constraints.
12. Changing LWRP Coordinator response time: Council reviewed recent incident where Mark Terry was not
able to complete some LWRP reviews for applications on the Trustees meeting agenda due to a personal
emergency. This resulted in the Trustees canceling those items from their agenda and since they only
meet once a month the applicants will now have to wait another month. Similar incidents have happened
in the past. Under LWRP the Coordinator has 30 days to complete the reviews, in this case the 30 days
had not expired which means the Trustees could not proceed so there was a suggestion to reduce the
response time to 15 days so that the Trustees could move forward sooner. Due to the fact that there are
many very complicated applications that require considerable research the Council felt that it was not
feasible to reduce the response time to 15 days. However, in order to keep the Trustees on schedule the
Council will reiterate it’s recommendation to the Town Board that an assistant coordinator be named and
trained so that they can assist Mark Terry and at the very least be able to fill in for him when he is out of
the office.
Add on: Council discussed the fact that the Town Board still has not formally appointed the LWRP CC. Al
Krupski and John Sep will follow up on this and request that the Town Board make the formal appointments.
All items not discussed will be on the agenda for the next meeting.