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APPEAL BOARD
MEMBER
Robert W. ~illispie, Jr., Chairm~n
Robert BerBen
Charles gri~onis~ Jr.
Ser~c Doyen~ Jr.
Fred Huls~, Jr.
MINUTES
TOWN BOARD OF APPEAI~
JanUary 6, 1972
A regular meeting o~ the South01d'TownBoard of &ppeals was
held at ?:30~?.M., Th~rsday~ Jarmary 6, 1972, at the Town Office,
MAin Road, ~outholds New York.
There were present~· Mes~srs: RoBert ~. Gtllispie, Jr.,
Chairman; Robert Bergen; Charles Grigouis, Jr.; Fred H~lse, Jr.;
Serge Doyen, Jr.
Also present: M~. Howard Terry, Building Inspector.
PUBLIC ~Rl~G: Appeal NO. ~[82 - 7:30 P.M. (E.D.$.T.), upon
application of George"Capon, Jr.,"509 - 7th ~treet, Greenport,
New York, for a variance in a~co~dauce with the Zoning 0~dtnance,
Article Iii, '~ction 300, ~Ab~ectton (6), & Article Iii, Section
309, forpermission to erect accessory strmctmre (swimming pool)
with insufficient side yard and rear yard setback. ~ocation of
Property: west side cf-Tth Etreet, Greenport, New York, bounded
no~th byE. & A. Richter, east by 7tH ~treet, south by A,
Etanttaus~ west byE. Dingleton & others. Fee paid
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading tD~ application
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~o~ avariance, legal notice of hearz g, affidavit attesting to
its publication in the official newspapers, and notice to the
applicant.
T~n~ OH~IRM~N: A letter has been s~bmitted, dated~Deeember
10, 1971, addressed to the ~outhold Town Board of Appeals, as
follows:
~e, the undersigned, being neighbors of George Capon, Jr.,
%09 Seventh Et~eet, Greenport, Town of ~thold, New~'York, have
no objections for there being erected on his property an above
ground swimming PoOl.~ (~igned) Mr. & Mrs.-H. Singleton,
Alexander Stanilaus, Thelma R. Richter, Ernest F. Richter.
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THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application?
MR. GEORGE CAPON, JR.: The swimming area is 16 feet by 32
feet. The length, with the patio and'the walk-around, would be
43~6 feet; the width would be 24 feet. There will be a 2 foot
deck on the east and west sides. All told, with the deck, the
length will be 43.6 feet.
MR. BERGEN: Could you cut the deck off on one end?
MR. CAPON: I~ am going to hav~ a slide and I wouldn't be able
to put it on if i cut the deck off.
MR. BERGEN: On which end will you have the slide?
~. CAPON: The deck end.
(The Board and Mr. Capon studied sketch).
MR. CAPON: I have diagrams that I forgot to bring with me.
Mrs. ~tantlaus is on the south side, Mr. and MrS. Richter on the
north side and F~. and Mrs. Singleton on the west side.
THE CHAI~LMAN: How long will the pool be when yo~ get the
deck on?
MR. CAPe_N: It will be 432 feet all-told. There will be an
8 foot deck at the south end and a 2~ foot deck on the other end.
THE GHAL-~I~J~N: T don~t thin~ yom have enough rOOm fo~sa~ety
factors such as fire uses. I think what you will ~have to do is
eliminate one of these decks. A~e yea going to have a deck towards
the garage?
M~. CAPON: All there is is a walk-around a~ea.
T~HE CHA~: I think you will have to eliminate the deck at
the shallow end. The walk is 2 feet wide. Does that have a fence?
MR. CAPON: There .is a fence ali the way around.
THE CHAIP~MAN: ~ believe you will have to eliminate one deck.
Even that is~only going to give you % feet all told.
F~. BERGS: Co~Id you get a pool a size smaller?
THE CEA!R~_A~: krnen you come down 1 foot~ from the fence, that
is too close. We are all for a pool, it~s a wonderful thing for
kids. I have a pool that is 16 feet by 34 feet. I wanted l0 feet
of concrete all aromnd but we have found that we don~t mse the side to
the west at all. What wo~ld help you would be to widen the deck on
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the east and take the other deck off. You wc~ld then have two
sides to use the pool from. It would give you-one deck on the
short side and one on the long side. You only have 45 feet to
work with,.. ~ou might ~get a s~ller pool as people who swim in
these pools a~e not Olympic swimmers... You could make the pool
a little shorter.
MR. CAPON:
lay-away plan.
have put a down payment on it already.
It's a
TEE CHAIEM~M: You dontt have to change the size of the pool
but you could cut off one end of it.
(The Board discussed the size of the property and the size
of the pool).
THE CHAIF~W~: I would suggest~ that you take 2 feet and put
it on the other side, make it wider on one side, so that you have
a deck area on Just two sides.
MR. UAPON: ~e have to keep it a foot from the back line.
Right directly in back of the garage is my cesspool. You can go
through the garage to get to it. Iris 2 feet from the garage.
THE CHAIRMAN: I think it should be 3 feet from ~he back linen
(Referring to sketch) You can dO this by eliminating this deck.
~hat size is the deck at the north end of the pool?
CAPON: About 2 feet.
TEE CHAIRMAN:
Ton might just as well not have it.
MR. CAPON: They cantt .make it square because of the braces.
~THE GHAI~tWAN: You have angle braces that Come in under the
pool. ~ dontt think i foot clearance is enough. How soon do you
have to know about this?
MR. GAPON: The deep end'is excavated, it's 7~ feet deep. I
want to put the pool up In March.
THE CH&IRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no response.) . ~
THE ~HAIP~MA2~: i believe we should recess this hearing until
our next meeting, January 27th. Bring in diagrams and we will try
to help you as mmch as we can.
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On ~otion by M~.. Bergen, seconded by F~. Grigonis, it was
RE~OLVED that hea~tng on Appeal No. 14.82, application of
George Capon, Jr., 5G9 Seventh~t~eet, Greenport, New York, be
recessed until 7:30 P.M., Thursday, January 27, 1972.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillisple, Bergen, Grigonis,
Hulse, Doyen.
P~BLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 1~84- 7:~5 P.~- (E.D.S.T.), upon
application cf Thomas~ ~Ancy, 35 Jefferson Street, Garden City,
New York, for a variance in accordance with the ~enlng Ordinance,
Article III, ~ectton 300, ~absection (6), for permission to locate
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accessory building in front yard area. .Location of prop rty. west
side of Bayberry Road', Lot No. ll9 on Map of Nassau Point Club
l~operties, Amended N~p.~"B~ No. 789, Cutchogue, New York. _Wee
paia $5.00.
The Chai~man opened the hearing by ~eading the application for
a variance, legal notice of hea~ing, affidavit attesting to ~ts
publication in the official newsoapers,_ and notice to the applicant.
THE O~IRNAN~ Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application?
~. GEORGE ~: I would like to speak f~r this application
for all the reasons ~ntioned in the application. There are many
garages in Nassau Point that a~e built in the front yards. I don~t
think it we~ld change the ~haracter off_the neighborhood.
TH~ CHAndLer: is it a two or tD~ee oar garage?
2~R. ~: It is a two car garage with two garage doors on
it.
THE CHAIP~MAN: ~hat is the size of the garage?
1~. AHIER~: 3~ feet by 24 feet.
THE CHAIRNAN: ~Uaat is the distance from the side yard?
2~. AHLm~RS: We would have the 3 feet that is required for
an accessory building. The garage would be set 250 to 300 feet
back from the road. .
THE CNAIR~N: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(Ther~ was no response.)
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After investigation and inspection the Board finds that the
applicant requests permission to locate accessory building in
£ront yard a_wea~ on property located on the west side of Bayberry
Road, autchogue, New York. The findings of the Board are that
topographical conditions on the southwest portion of the lot make
it impractical to construct a garage in the legal rea~ yard aves;
and that the garage would be located in a heavily wooded area
and would not be seen from the road.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance would
produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship; the hard-
ship created is unique and would not be shared by all properties
alike in the immediate vicinity of this property and in the same
use district; and the variance will not change the character of
tb~ neighborhood, and will observe the spirit of the Ordinance.
On motion by ~. Bergen, seconded by !~v. Gillispie, it was
RE~.OLVED Thomas Mmncy, 35 Jefferson Street, Garden ~Oity, New
York, be GRANTED permission to locate accessory building in front
yard area on property located on the west side of Ba~berry Road,
Cutchog~e, New York, subject to the following conditions:
1. Garage shall be located at least 200 feet from Bayberry
Road.
2. Garage shall be located at least three feet from the
southerly line of the property.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen, Grigonis,
Hulse, Doyen.
PUBLIC P~RING~:'~ $.ppeal No. 1~85 - 8:00 P.M. (E.D.$~T.), upon
appli~ation of ThOmas' ~zala, Box 299 B, Eouth~ld, New.~York,. for a
variance in a~ccordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article iii,
~ectton- 303, and Article 1~, Reef!on 1000A, for permission to.divide
property and set off lots ~with insufficient frontage. Locatio~ of
property: east side O~ private road (WilliamSburg D~ive), off
south side of' Bayview Road, ~outhOld, ~New York, bounded~ north by
Stanley Peters, east by canal, south by J. F. Grathwohl, west by
private road (Williamsburg Drive). Fee paid $5.00.
by reading the application
The Chairman opened the hearing.n
for a variance, legal notice of hear~ _g, affidavit attesting to its
publication in the officiaI newsPaPers, and notice to the applicant.
THE aPL~IHMAN: Is there anyoue present who wishes to speak for
this application?
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GE(~{GE STANEE~)iCH, ~-~.: I"represent I,~. ~zala en this
application,~ .At-the time F~) Ezala pUrchaSed th~s land they
built a house on the northeast lot, the northerr~most let, and
they contemplated that at some future time they would sell the
southern portion of their land. They have not as yet done so
and I suggested that tD~y come before you to see if t~ey could
utilize this southern half of their property, i think it is a
unique situation. They have a wedge shaped lot .which lacks
frontage.
THE OPLAI_WJ4AN: Does anyone else wish to speak for this
application?
(There was ne response.)
THE CHAIRMAN:~ Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against thms appl~catien?
(There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
applicant requests permission to divide property and set off
lots with insufficient frontage located on the east side of'
private read (Wi!liamsburgD~ive), off south side of Bay~iew
Read, Somthold~ New York. The findings of the Boa~d are that
applicant is the owner of pie-shaped lots. The land has been
divided so that the frontage of each lot is about 8~ feet, plus
or minus and the rear of each lot is 100 feet, plus or minus.
The a~ea of each let is over /4,000 sq. ft. which was more than
the minimam required at the time the application was made. The
Board agrees with the reasoning of the applicant who is applying
under the old Ordinance.
The'Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance
would produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created is unique and would not be shared by all
properties alike in the im~aediate vicinity of this property and
in the same use district; and~the variance will not change the
character ef the neighborhood, and will observe the spirit of
the Ordinance.
On motion by 2~. Grigonis, seconded by i~. Bergen, it was
ItESOL~' Thomas Szala, Box 299 B, Southold, New York, be
GR~TED permission as applied for~to divide proper~y and set
off lets with insufficient frontage on the east side of private
road (~ill~msburgD~ive), off south side of Bayview Road,
Bouthold, New York.
Vote Of the Boa~d: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillfspie, Bergen, Grigonis,
H~lse, Doyan.
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PUBi~C B~A~ING: Appeal No. 1486 - ~:15 P.M. ~E.D.E.T.), upon
application of Stam_ley & Catherine Peters, 41-02 Vernon Blvd.,
Queens, New York, for a variance in~ accordance with the Zoning
Ordinance, Article III, ~ection 303, and Article X, ~ection 1000A,
for permission to divide property and set off lots with insufficient
frontage, l~ocation of property: east side or'private road-
(Mmlliam~burg Drive) off south Side of Ba~iew Road, Eouthold,
New York, bounded north by Robert Berg, east by canal, south by
T. Szala, west by private road (~illiamsburgh Drive). Fee paid
The Chairman opened the hearing by read_ng the application for
a variance, legal notice of hea~tng, affidavit attesting to its
publication in the offici~l~ newspapers, and notice to the applicant.
THE CPIAI~M~: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application? .....
GEC~GE ST~EEVICH, E~.: I am representing ~tanley and
Catheri~_e Peters. ~ speak for the application for the reasons
stated in the application.., that the division of propert~y would
be proper under the old Ordinance.
THE CEA!F~J: Is there anyone else present who wishes to
speak for ~his application*.
(There was no response.)
THE CHA~F~M-~: ' Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no response.)
After investigation and ~nspec~on the Board Finds that
applicant requests permission to divide property and set off
lots with insufficient frontage located on the east side of
private road (Williamsb~rg Drive) off South side of Bayview
Road, Southold, New York. The findings Of the Board are that
this is an equitable division of property as both of the 1.ors
have more than the mzntmum szze required .under the old O~nance.
The area of each lot is over 24,000 sq. ft. The Board agrees with
the reasoning of the applicant, who is applying under the old
Ord inanc e.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance
would produce practical difficulties or unnecessary har~=h~p,
the hardship created is unique and would not be shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property and
in the same use district; and the vs~ianoe will not change the
character of the neighborhood, and will observe the spirit of
the Ordinance.
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On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by ~. Hulse, it was
RE~LVED ~tanley & Catherine Peters, 41-02 Vernon Blvd.,
Q~eens, New York, be GRANTED permission as applfedfor to divide
property and set off lots with insufficient frontage on property
located on the east Side of private road (Williamsburg Drive~ off
south side of Bayview Road, ~outhold, New York.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen, Grigonis,
Hulse, Doyen.
THE CHAIH¥~N: It has been brought to my attention that there
ws.s a typing error iu Minutes of"Ja~ary 2?, 1966, Appeal No. 824,
William Wickham, Esq. a/c Margaret V. Braatz, Nassau Point, New
York. Appl-icant was granted permlssiou to create two lotsin a
proposed~subdivision to be known as Harbor Cove, Nassaa Point,
East Cutchogue, New York, with insufficient frontage of 78~ feet
on a turn-around circle to be 10G feet in-diameter. It was
typed ~ll0 feet~. Also, further in the paragraph ~aid right-of-
way will have a~t~rn-aro~nd circle of 100 feet in diameter, it
was typed ~110 £eet~. As ~110 feet~ womld throw off the frontage
of these lots, I believe a~motion is in order to correct these
Minutes.
~n motion by Mr. Bergen, seconded by l~. Hulse, it was
RE~VED that Minutes of January 27, 1966, Appeal NO. '824;
~illiam ~fckham, ~sq. a/c M~garet V. B~aatz, N~ssam Point, New
Yo~k, be co~ec~ed as ~ellews: ~wlth insufficient frontage of 7~
~eet on a tu~n-~e~nd circle to.be ll0 feet in dia~te~~ corrected
to ~ead w~th tnsuf~fe~en~ f~entage of 7~ ~eet on a tu~n-a~o~nd
circle te be 100 ~eet in diamete~~. Also, ~Za!d ~ight-of-way will
have a ~n-~m'nd circle ef ll0 feet in diamete=w co~ected to
~ead ~id right-of-way will ha~ a tm~u-~omnd circle of 10G feet
In diameter~.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen, Grfgonls,
Hulse, Doyen.
PUBLIC i~AR~G: Appeal No. ~87 - 8:30 P.M. (E.D4E.T.) upon
application of ~ammel Frey, ~ifth Avenue, Greenport, New York, for
a variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Artic!~ iii,
~ection 306, for permission to construct private one family
dwelling with insufficient front yard setback. Locatiouof property:
~outheast corner o~ Bayview Drive and Cedar'I~n~, Lots 12~ ~ 126
ohM ap ef Gardiners Bay Estates, ~ection II,.~East ~arion, New York.
Fee paid $%.00.
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The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a variance, legal notice of hearing, application attesting to
its publication in the official newspapers, and notice to the
applicant.
THE CHAIRMAn,: is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application?
MR. FREDERICE E. G~HDON: I am rep~e'senting Mr. Frey. I
think the ~reasons. stated .in the. apptaI cover it quite well.
THE CHAIRMAN: The survey indicates that the proposed house
at the closest point would be l0 'feet from Cedar Avenue and 21 feet
from B ~vzew Drive. Two intersecting roads form an acute angle.
Applicant owns two lots which are part of the original zoning
Ordinance. This is one of the approved maps that is part of the
~dinance. Do you have water and sewage?
~l~.~ GOHDON: Yes. The Board' of Health was there yesterday.
A well has been.put in to their satisfaction.
THE CHAIFJ~L~N: I assume you have studied the site carefully.
MR. Gt~D0~: Yes, in order to position the house sc that he
maintains a view and to keep the house back from the water because
of high tides.
THE CHAIR~N~N: ~ill there be a garage?
MR. G(IRDON: Yes, a single car garage.
the southwest corner.
It would come in from
THE CHAIR}~{: you have-15 feet on one end for a ~.ideyard and
l0 feet on the other end which is normal on a 100 foot lot. The
only problem is that you are close to Bayvtew Drive.
MR. GORDON: Both reads are private roads.
THE CHAIRMAI~: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this..application?
(There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
applicant requests permission to construct private one family
dwelling with insufficient front yard s~tba~k on property located
on southeast co~ner of Bayview-Drive and Cedar Lane, East Marion,
New York. The Board finds that applicant is the owner of-two lots
on Map of Gardiners Bay~'Estates which are part of the original
Zoning Ordinance; the roads making it a corner lot are not at
right angles and the lot falls off very sharply from the road to
the creek. The Board agrees with the reasoning of the applicant.
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The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance
w~!d produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created is unique and would net be shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property and
in the same use district; and the variance will not change the
character of the neighborhood and will observe the spirit of
the Ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by I$. Bergen, it was
' RESOLVED ~el'Frey, !~ifth Ave~e, Greenport, NeW York,
be GR~NTED permission to construct private eno family dwelling
with insufficient front yard setback en Property located en
the southeast corner of Bayview Drive and Cedar Lane, as applied
for, subject to the following conditions:
1. That there be no further reduction of sideyards er front
yards.
That there be ne expansion to the northeast or the west.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gtllispie, Bergen, Grigonis,
Hulse, Doyen.
~0 ~ARl~:! ~Appeai .~o, i~8~'-8:4% P'M. (E,D.s.T,)., upon
apPlication ofi~thleen & ~alter PotoCki,. 90Page Lane, Lake
Ronkonkoma, New~ York, for a v~i~ce~in accordance With the
Eoning Ordinance, A~tlo~ III, ~ ctlen~303, ~tioleX, ~ctfon
!O0~, and ~ticlo.X, 2nd ~eotion 1008, For permission ~odiVide
property and set off ~ltipie Residence with less t~n ~equi~ed ~
area per ~nit. ~cationof property: east side~of Kerry s Roa~,
~o~thold, New York, bounded north~P- Ol~veri, east by Ralph
Glever, somthbyBu~ns - K~arns, west. by ~e~s Road. Fee paid
$~.00.
The O~ir~n opened ~He he~i~ bY~eadi~ ~he application
for a variance, legal notice of he~ing, affidavits attesting to
proof of publication in the official newspapers, notice to the
applicant.
~ C~N: The application is acco~anied by correspondence.
The Chair~n ~ead: ~tter f~om Ma~Y ~ar~s McG~an (i~s.'Gebrge
McGowan),89 D~tmouth ~$reet, Ree~ilte Oentre, N. Y.- requesting
t~t t~ v~ianee be denied.
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The Chairman read: ~etter signed by Ann M. P~lse and Walter
T. ~lse, Rockville Centre, N. Y.- strongly urging that the
variance be denied at this time. (Dated Jan. 3, 1972)
Letter signed by John J. Jazwa, 465 North
~ea Drive, Southold, New York- requesting that Zoning Board of
Appeals disapprove the request. (Dated Jan. 2, 1972)
Letter from Helen Jazwa- requesting the
Zoning Board of Appeals deny the request. (Dated Jan. 3, 1972)
Telephone call received from Western
Union (Jan. 6, 1972) notifying Board of Appeals that they are in
receipt efta telegram from Robert'J. Rev!rob, P~es. Of Kenney!s
Beach Civic Assoc.- registering opposition to the granting of
the variance application of Wal~er & Eathleen Potocki. ~Telegram
sent o~t today wall not be received until tomorrow- Jan. 7th).
(Mr. John J. Jazwa produced copy of telegram
which had not as yet been delivered to the Boarder Appeals re.
Walter & Kathleen Potocki from Robert Ravttz- strongly urging
Board of Appeals reject said application. ~Contrary to total
residential character of neighborhood - master plan provides for
no m~ltiple residence in this area. ~$e are already beset by eyesore
on adjacent Oliveri lot - abandoned snack bar - proving area not
suitable for commercial ventures. Area has problems with sewage
and water. Exterior examination of present Potocki hotel shows
property not maintained up to residential character of neighborhood.
Urgent that y~ inquire if variance is granted whether Potocki
plans to expand multiple use himself or whether this is prelude
to sale to third party."
Telephone call from F~. Stanley Possess,
9~ $oundview Ave., stating that he could not reaeh'~stern Union
and wished to register his disapproval. (Jan. 6, 1972).
THE CHAIP~WL~N: The p~operty is on Kenne~s Road. The depth
of the p~optrty on the north side is 202'feet, aD~ 2%0 feet on
the southern dimension. The easterly di~nsion 352.02 feet and
the frontage on Kenney's Road is 330.34 feet. The lot gets wider
as you go south and it is irregula~ in shape. The average di-
mension is 22% ft. x 340 ft. The northern end of the property is
zoned ~ultiple Residence.
Usually we hear from people who are for an application before
we hear from those who are against it but in cases like this we
read everything that is in the files first.
THE CHAIP~L~N: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application?
MRS. EAT~ POTOCKI: I guess it would only be myself.
husband was not able to be here.
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THE CHA~: This is not a popularity contest. If everyone
is against your,application and you a_we right we would act in your
favor.
i~. POTOCEY: I feel that all of these people p~ed into the
neighborhood during the time we had Business zoning. Now we have
Multiple zoning and they a~e still compl~Ining~
T~CHAL-~M~: You bought this property in 1960.
~. POTOCKI: It was zoned Business, the whole area. Instead
of dividing it we took~one Deed. ~e had been under contract for sale.
The day this contract was to be signed (I think it was the end of
November or early December) one o£ the local lawyers out here
heard that M~ltiple zoning was being changed. Business zoning was
lifted three years ago and cha~ed to M zoning.
THE CHAIRMAN: ~nat improvements do you have?
' i
~. POTOCKI: i have four apartments in one build ug. W~at
I wanted to do was to divide the property into three plots of land.
THE OHA~M~N: You understand that under the old Ordinance you
needed 12,500 sq. ft. per apartment mnit. That's one reason why
the area is not littered with apartments. In Broo?d~aven you can
have 400 apartments on 12 to 15 acres but out here you would have
to have 100 acres for that m~ny apartments, so, in that way, we
kept our open space. Applied to you, %0,000 sq. ft. would be
required under the old Ordinance. ~
F~. HC~AED TERRY, Bldg. Inspector: ~he has 7?,066 sq. ft. in all.
~. POTOCEI: i would like to divide it into 3/% or 2/2 acres.
This was a security for ~s.
THE CHA~E~M~: You would like to divide %0,000 sq. ft. out and
sell the re~aining two lots.
~. POTOO~2i: I wanted to have a double unit on each plo~.
I may still be able to sell it to the same man that I was under
contract with.
THE OHAIR~J~: This application comes under the old Ordinance
and was initiated before the passage of the new Ordinance which
is a break for you as it reduces the requirements on lot size.
A double house under the old ordinance required 25,000 sq. ft.
You would be permitted one aouble unit. You are usi~50,O00 sq.
of the 77,000 sq. ft. that you have for the four units that you now
have. The requirement was for 12,500 sq. ft. per unit. in a
double family situation you require a double amount than is
required for a single unit. This property could be sold in two
lots for single houses or one lot for a double house.
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MRS. POTOCKI: How m~ch Footage do I have to leave on that
first lots , ~
T~ CHA~: ~Under the new Ordinance you ~would only have to
leave~ 36,000~ sq~ ft. ~without seWage and water, but yen would be
required to leave 40,000 sq..ft, for a new single family dwelling.
Fmlt iple ~ll~ng, j
I have not been notified that it was not
was advertised. It became effective on December
This is the second time this has happened.
MRS. POTOCKi:
family residences?
~S. POTOCKI:
new O~diuance.
Could I have the three plots and two single
At 12,~00 sq. Ft. each, that would work.
I would have to have 36,000 sq. ft. under the
How do you think I would make out betters
~%~. POTOCKI: I would like you to help me in some way. I am
at your mercy,
THE CHAIRMAN: If'we permitted mo~e than one double family
residence we.would be changing the law which has been in effect
since 1966. The Ordinance was changed at that time to require
2~,000 sq. ft. for a two family residence.
THE GHAIE)~T: 'i would assume that you could apply under the
old Ordinance and you could get permission to put in a double
family unit on the southern portiontol this property. That is one
option. Unde~ the new Ordinance you would be at a disadvantage.
You would only require 36,000 sq. ft. to be retained on this non-
conforming use but that only leaves 40,000 sq. Ft., which is one
lot, and you could not put a two family house on it. This whole
lot is not enough under the present Ordinance for two-family but
you have the advantage of applying under the old Ordinance. if
you wish, we cs~u deny this and we can suggest to you what we think
yOU can do.
THE OHAIRMAN: This is a change of zone.
MRS. pOTocEI: These people who a~e complaining should not ~
have movedthere underBUsln6ss zoning. Every penny that my husband
and I saved was put in there. My husband is retiring. If we want
to sell this property it is worthless. I think ou~ house was one
of the nicest houses there. If there were any building to be done
in the future it would be new construction. Even if it was two-
family, it would not be an eyesore.
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January 6, 1972
THE CEXIRMA2~: Two single family residences would be better.
~, POTOOF_I: Then I wo.dld leave 130 feet on the house I
have now. Iris 2%0 feet deep.
~ CHAIR~: Your b~st bet wOuld be two lots, 100 ft. x
12% ft. each, single family residences on Kenneyts Road. The
remaining part would be the area requirement £or your four family
residence. We would be glad to recess the hearing. This is a
preliminary suggestion. We will have to D~ar from the people who
are against your appeal. 0~r discussion may have helped the people
here to understand it.
THE C~IRMAN~ Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this..application? ·
MR. ~LD. ESi~k$ITO: I own the property on the southwest
corner directly across the street. I am erecting a building there
and I strongly object to 2~ltiple other than what the Ordinance
provides. I am using the place as a summer residence and I donlt
want anything to detract from getting peace and quiet. ~y second
concern is about the quality of water as a result of all the
additional people that might be there.
THE C~MAN: ~ understar~ that if you have 80,000 sq. ft.
you can build a double family residence? Under the old Ordinance
you or I could build a two-family~ · dwelli~ug on 2%,000 sq. ft.
MR, ~EPO~ITO: I dOntt object if she builds according to what-
ever the Ordinance cohforms to. ~
MR. JOHN J. JAZ~. Mrs. Potocki said the entire area was
zoned Business. It was business ~rom North~eaDrive to Kenney~s
Road... Dogwood Lane, 209 feet on her side and 208 feet on Dogwood
Y~ane south of the P0tocki property-~ The entire a~ea outside of
that was Residential and Agricultural.
THE CHAIR2~N: What was on the corner?
~. JAZ~A: There was a luncheonette. It was used for abomt
one week ~hi~ year. ~hen i bought my property ! was not notified
by the real estate people that there was any business property in
the area.
~. PCY20C~: 2~y sign was outside.
MR.~JA~A: We just did not buy there k~_owing that there was
Business. It ~s mufOrtunate that in 1957 this happened to be one
piece of spot zoning.
THE C~L~: Usually there was Business zoning because iu
each community you did need some Business such as~a country store.
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I~R. J~A: I am not finding fault with the original zoning.
Unfortunately we bought and did not know it was Business. A lot
of people bought there. We invested our life savings also. I
want to keep the one Family character of this area. Asking for
a variance now with the new N~ster Plan and the new Zoning Ordinance
is like downzoning in the sense of increasing the density of houses
and is not in conformance with the present Zoning Ordinance. if
we have a new zoning ordinance, why don~t we uphold i~? ~q~at ! am
confused about here is that the applicant put an application in on
December4th and on the 17th the new Ordinance was adopted.
THE CP~IR~N~ You can't change everything that has happened
in the past. That has to be taken into consideration in the new
Ordinance. It doesn't mean that every lot will grow to 40,000 sq. Ft.
~R. JAZWA~' ~ny is there a request for Article III. This takes
into consideration the area of lot and frontage on the road. M~y
I ask you if this frontage is cut doe to 130 feet for ¥~ltiple
I~elling with four units with 200 feet depth in back would this be
~he required area? ~hen this division is made the ~ltiple residence
will have an L-shape that will go in back of the other two lots.
THE C~IR~: Article III, EeCtion 303, concerns the area.
These two lots would have 12,500 sq. ft. and 100 f~i frontage.
Article X, Eectton lO00A ~No lbts, etc. of less than that
prescribed~. ~ec. 303 controls the area and ~ec. 1000A controls
the remainder of the property on which ~s. Potooki has a four
unit apartment. You can't set of~ lots so that the part remaining
is less than it should be.
ER. ~PO$ITO: BO, it would~be I~shaped and there would be two
lots for single family dwellings. 'Would this be used in conjunction
with the motel or would they be pri~ate?
~R. TEFAX: They could, be rented to one family.
THE CHA!E~J~N. ~vs. Potooki could ~e~l the lots first and
someone else could build single family houses there.
MR. JA~A: ~nat about sewage?
THE C~aN: That's covered by the Board of Health.
I~R. JAZZ: I have heard of cases where a zoning Change was
~de after people started to build and there was hard~hip, and they
did not abide by the *~uffolk County Health Department.
Tit~ CHALRI~.* We are only covering what we are authorized to
do which is to act on the Zoning Ordinance although we consider
many things in our deliberations. There is a new agency, the
Environmental Control Agency. I~any subdivisions have to go
t~ough the Board of Health 's. nd the Environmental Control Agency.
?Ye don~t control them. We are a much lesser cog in the wheel.
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January 6, 1972
MR. JAZWA: There is a h~gh water table in that ~rea. The
luncheonette had to operate with paper ~ervzce because the water
did not meet the Water I~epartment"requirements. Last year the
sewage system was~worked on twlce~
MRZ. POTOCEi: ! have ver~' good w~ter at ~ p~operty.
I~R, jAZZy: ~Does this have to abide bY the new zoning ordinance
as f~ as pa~kzng~mfacilztze go?!
TBE CHA~M~: This WOuld be under the old Ordinance but I
don~t see any i~equity because the old C~dinance required ~0,000 sq. ft.
MR. JAZWA: On ~ m~p it shows that on the south side is
Burns, Hulse, and Kearns. ~hy was not i~. Hulse~s name mentioned
as bordering on the south smGe.. ~
MR. ~A~TER kwo~-SE: ~e own that property. We bought it from
l~elin. He. sold it. to me about seven years ago.~
ME. JAZ~A: i w~ld like to keep the Gens~ty of the bumld_ngs ~n
this area as.lOW as possible in accordance with the new or old
Ordinance simply because~of the type of buildings we have there.
I~ lot is 3/~ o~ an acre~
MR. EEPOS_vTO: My lot is 3/~ of an acre.
MR., W~R ITGI~E: ! have 123 Feet on D°g~ood, 108 feet on
Kenney' s Road and 133~ feet on Dixon.
THE ~I~N~ This will not decrease the size of lots in
that area.
MR.~$~J~ER ~U$~: I have no objections except to N~ltiple
dwe lllng ~
THE CHAIPj~N: I assume You want us to act as favorably as We
can. ~ I w~ld ~spe0ifY that the'se two lots be used for single family
residences whether ~s. Potocki builds them or sells them.
i~S. POTOC~: At l~ast I would have frontage.
~ I~R~ ~J~i~ER HUtA~E: Can' they build anything on the part belonging
to where the four apartments are?
E. TERRY: Nothing other than a teo~Is court or something for
recreation.
~. pOT-ocF~I: The old Ordinance is the most~£avorable for me.
I lost $%0,000 last month because I couldn't sell.
I~R'. ESPOSIT0: I~ t. erms of what.i paid for 'my property last
year and what you paiG in 1959 you wmll Probably do all right.
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MR~. POTOCi~i: If I wanted to add on to m~ four family building
could I add on?.
FRED HUv~E, JR.: You could not add another unit.
THE CHAIRF~W: You could not make it larger in the direction
of Kenney~s Road. You could m~ke what you have larger but you
could not add another unit. You can not have more than four
family units. You weald not have enough square footage.
i~R. _~ERRY: You could build a utility room or a garage.
THE CHAIR~: Is there anyone else present who wishes to
speak?
(There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Boa_rd finds that appli-
cant requests permission to divide property and set off M~ltzp_e
Residence with less than requir~d area per unit on east side of
Kennevls Road, Southold, New York. The Board finds that applicant's
lot i~ 77,066 sq. ft. and that applicant requests permission to
divide and sell three separate plots ~nd=v~dually. Applicant has
a multiple dwelling on the property comprising fou~ apartments in
one building which requires 50~000 sq. ft. of land under the old
Ordinance. Applicant wishes to have two double units on the two
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remaining plots. The Board f~nd that the remaining property com-
prising 27,066 sq. ft. could be sold in two lots for single houses
or one lot £or a ~double house ~nder the old Ordinance which required
12,500 sq. ft. for a single dwelling and 25,000 sq. ft. for a
double dwelling. The findings of the Board a~e that the best
solution for the applicant would be to divide the southerly portion
into two lots for single family residences on Kenney~s Road. The
remaining property' would be the area requirement for the four family
residence. -Applicant applied for variance before the new Zoning
O~dinance took effect.
The Board finds that strict application of the O~dinance would
a~
not produce practlc ~ difficulties or unnecessa~Y hardship; the
hardship created is not unique and would be shared by all properties
alike in the immediate vicinity of this property and iu the same use
the neighbor-
distr~c , and the variance will change the character of
hood, and will not observe the spirit of the Ordinance.
On motion by ~. Grigonis, seconded by 2~. Bergen, it was
RE~OLVED Kathleen & Walter P0tocki, 9 0page Lane, Lake
Roukonkoma, New York, be DEN~ED permission to divide property and
set off Fmltiple Residence with less than required area, as
aoplied for.
- The Board GRAnTeE permission to create two new lots fronting
on Eenneyls Road, each 100 feet by 12% feet in depth, ou the
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southerly end of the Potocki property line. The remainder of
the property, as described in survey of Van Tuyl (10/19/62),
shall be considered as part of the lot on ~ich the four family
Multiple Residence is located. This'leaves 135 foot frontage for
the M~ltiple Residence plus about 52,000 sq. ft. The property
which becomes part of the four family lot may not be improved
with other major buildings.
Ayes:- F~ssrs: Gillispie, Bergen, Grigonis,
Vote of the Board:
Eulse, Doyen.
On motion by M~. Gillispie, seconded by 2~r. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED that the Minutes of the Southold Town Board of Appeals
dated D~cember 9, 1971, be approved as submitted, subject to minor
correction.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen, Grigonis,
Hulse, Doyen.
On motion by ~. Doyen, seconded by M~. Hulse,~ ~t was
REEOLVED that the ~outhold Town Board of Appeals set 7:30
P.M. (E.S.T.), Thursday, Jar~ary 27, 1972, a~ She To~ Office,
Main Road, ~outhold, New York, as the time and place of hearing
upon application of George Oapon, Jr., 509 7th ~treet, Greenport,
New York, for a variance iu accordance with the zoning Ordinance,
Article III, Section 309, ~or permission to erect accessory
structure (swimming pool) with insufficient side yard and rear
yard setback. Location of property: west side of 7~h'St~eet,
Greenport, New York, bounded north by E. & A. Richter, east by
7th Street, south by A. Stanilaus, west by H. Zingleton & ethers.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- I~lessrs: Gillispie, Bergen, Grigonis,
Hulse, Doyen.
On motion by ~. Huise, seconded by M~. Grigonis, ~t was
EE$OLVED that the ~outhold Town Board of Appeals set 7:45
P.M. (E.E.T.~,'Thursday, JanUary 27, 1972, a~ the Town Office,
Main Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place o~he~ring
upon application O~ Hilton L. ETop, Birch Read, BoUthold, New
York, for a variance in accordance with the Zontng Ordinance,
Article Iii, ~ection 303 & Eectio~ 306, and A~ticle.X, ~ection
lO00A (Old Ordinance) (New ~dinauce - Article III~ ~estion
301 & ~ection 304), for permission to construct private one family
dwelling with insufficient lot area and front yard setback. Location
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of property: northeast corner of C
hesthu~ Road and Maple Road,
~oUthold, New York, bounded north by Joseph Ca!laban, east by
~. B. ~tern & others, south by Chestnut Road, west by Maple
Road.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen, Grigonis,
Ealse, Doyen.
On motion by F~..~Grigonis, seconded by ~. Bergen, it was
RE~OL~that the Eouthold Town Board of Appeals set 8:00!~
P.M. (E.S.T.), Thursday, januarys27, 1972, at the Town Office,
F~in Road, Southold, New ~'ork, as' the time and place ofhearing
upon application or-Richard & ~haron Brooks, Enollwood Lane,
Mattituck, New YOrk, for approval of access over P~ivate right-el-
way'(for mv~s~on of lot) in accordance with the ~tate of New
To~u~Law, Section 280A - (New Ordinance - Article II!, Section 301~.
~ocation Of property: south side of K~ollwood Lane, Mattituck, New
York, bounded north by Enollwood Lane, east by~Aurelin T. Dwyer,
south by W. A. Hupprecht, west by-Clement Brown.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillispie Bergen, Grigonis,
Hulse, Doyen. '
On motion by N~. Bergen, seconded by ~. Gillispie, it was
RESOLVED that the Eouthold TOwn Board of Appeals set 8:I%
P.M. (E.$oT.), Thursday, Jar~ary. 27, 1972, at the Town 0ffioe,
Main Road, Eouthold, New York, ~s the time and place of hearing
upon application of Edgar Wiufield & Helen Hildegarde Hawkins,
Main Road, East Marion, New York, for a variance in accordance
with the Zoning Ordinance, Article Iii, Section 301 & Section 304
(New Ordinance), for permission to construct private one family
dwelling with insufficient front yard setback and rear Yard area.
~ocation ~f p~operty: south side of ~in Road, East Marion, New
York, bounded north by Main Road, east by private road, south by
private road, west by L. T. Vail.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen, Grigonis,
t~lse, Doyen.
On motion by ~i~. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Doyen, it was
REE~ that the Sou~hold Town BOard of Appeals set 8:30
P.M' (E,S.T.), ThursdaY, January 27, 1972, at the Town Office,
Main Road, $outhold, Mew York, as the time andPlace of hearing
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upon application of Myron & Joy Finkle, Main Read, Orient, New York,
For a variance in accordance~iwith the Zoning Ordinance, Article X,
section 1007 (d)- Old OrdinanCe, (New~.Ordihance - Article XII,
Section 1204 (d), for permission to re-instate use (restaurant)
which has been discontinued for a Period of over two yearS. Location
o£ property: north side~o-* Main Road, Orient, NeW York, bounded
north by H. ~cl~midt, e~st by H. ~chmidt, south by Main Road,
west by H. Terry Estate.
Vote of the Bos~d: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen, Grigenis,
Hulse, Doyen.
The Meetlng was adjourned at 9:~ P.M.
Respeot£ully submitted,
Marjorie t~cDermott, gecreta~y
Southold Town Board of Appeals