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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1000-117.-8-18 ----~ +~.' .,.. a. .... ~f_'._''-'. .'-'_.~"'.-r-~._---_.--.--.... _. , . TOWN CL!. '.0 . . , , TOWN OF' sotJ'Jf}ow: ^ .. . -. : , olfolk C~UDtf; New rea 516:. ~f801 . :.... ..p: N~ 14727 . , -"", i ; Southold, N. Y. 1197J:..1-...eIr- II 19 J"'~ fRECEIVED OF~'/1./ f- ~ , ~ ~rfh~cL ,~XY/t'OD Dolla..'~.{~, 0.2. i IFor'P~~q'. J-...u~ - ~..:z: fJ..fCVY.J # '7f" I i / 7n /37 CI..u.-6 <to Judith T. Terry, Town Clerk i I ~~' i Cash 0 Cbeclvg'" ~ 0 II By i .--------.....---.-- .:;:,... -.. .. . .' ... Southold Town Planning Board Main Road Southold, NY 11971 Dear Sirs: ~ JAM 22 lEt.. P. O. Drawer A Jamesport, NY 11947 January 20, 1986 Please find enclosed a letter of authorization from James A. Kenniff, President of Marine Associates, Inc. authorizing Richard T. Carr to obtain the necessary permits, consents and approvals. HER:ml CC: John Hart, Esq. Pelletreau & Pelletreau 20 Church Street Patchogue, NY 11772 o.Jif , Cr' :'", rJ? -ii'-i SincerelY, ~~t~,'~'. ~ . . . AUTHORIZATION (1) MARINE ASSOCIATES. INC. hereby authorizes RICHARD T. CARR. his agents. and his representatives to obtain any permits. consents and approvals deemed necessary for the use and development of the premises owned by MARINE ASSOCIATES. INC. described on Suffolk County Tax Map as: District 1000. Section 117.00. Block 08.00. Lot 018.000 on which Richard T. Carr is an option vender. (2) MARINE ASSOCIATES. INC. agrees to cooperate with RICHARD T. CARR. his agents and his representatives. in regard to these permits. consents and approvals and. if necessary. to sign any papers in connection therewith. (3) MARINE ASSOCIATES. INC. hereby authorizes RICHARD T. CARR. his agents. and his representatives to enter the premises to use. renovate. repair. build. and/or demolish structures on the premises. MARINE ASSOCIATES. INC. STATE OF NEW YORK) ) sS.: COUNTY OF SUFFOLK) On the 10 day of.,J;",....j . 198 t. before me personally came James A. Kenniff. to me known. who being by me duly sworn. did depose and say that he is the President of Marine Associates. Inc.. the corporation described in which executed the foregoing instrument; that he knows the seal of said corporation; that the seal affixed to said instrument is such corporate seal; that it was so affixed by order of the Board of Directors of said corporation. and he signed his name thereto y like order. allies A. BY: THOMAS J. UHUNGER NOTARY PJJJ8UC, State of New YM N.. 011 - 4733066 Qualified in Suff-olk County 0/10 Commi$$ion Expires NlOrch 30, 1PO r ... ,~....:.. '_I~'~ . . ~. TITLE NO. lll-S-4475 RESTRICTION . ~, - .' RUTH L. HOUSTON, individually and as executrix and trustee under the last will and testament of HOWARD G. TUTHILL, deceased, Southold, formerly Ruth C.Tuthill Dated: November 29, 1960 Rec'd: December 2, 1960 to Liber: 4915 cp 376 JAMES ARTHUR KERN IF- PHILIP F. LINDNER ------------------------------------------ SUBJECT to the use of the conveyed premises as and for the oper- ation of a Boat Yard or a marina, or any other business assoc~ated with the operation of a Boat Yard business. , < __t_ -. -..-.,....~~-~,...~-- I. .... (tit' (~ ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( v( ( l-""'- ( ) &( ,,;f " J': J) ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ....Y ( v,;( ( ~% ~~ , ~~ SITE PLAN ELEMENTS ~100-134 Town Code Lot, block, and section number, if any, or the property taken from tax records Name and address of the owner of record Name and address of the person preparing the map Date, North arrow and written and graphic scale Sufficient description or information to precisely define the boundaries of the property. All distances shall be in feet and tenths of a foot. All angles shall be given to the nearest ten seconds or closer. The error of closure shall not exceed one in ten thousand. The locations, name, and existing width of adjacent streets and curblines The location and owners of all adjoining lands, as shown on the latest tax records Location, width and purpose of all existing and proposed easements, setbacks, reservations, and areas dedicated to public use within or adjoining property. A complete outli~~t~~ J:xistiqg the property ~y tL~1 Existing zoning U Existing contours at intervals of five or less, referred to a datum satisfactory to the Board deed restrictions or covenants applying to Approximate boundaries of any areas subject to flooding or stormwater overflo\ Location of existing watercourses, marshes, wooded areas, rock outcrops isolated trees with a diameter of eight inches or measured three feet above the base of the trunk and other significant existing features. Location of uses and outlines of structures, drawn to scale on and within one hundred (100) feet of the lots. Paved areas, sidewalks, and wehicular access between the site and public streets Locations, dimensions, grades and flow direction of existing sewers, culverts and waterlines as well as other underground and above ground utilities within and adjacent to the property. Other existing development, including fences, landscaping and screening The location of proposed buildings or structural improvement The location and design of all uses not requiring structures such as off street parking and loading areas. The location, direction, power and time of use of any proposed outdoor lighting or public address systems. The location of, and plans for, any outdoor signs The location and arrangement of proposed means of ~c S8 and egress, including sidewalks, driveways or other paved areas' rofiles indicating grading and cross sections showing width of roadway, ocation and width of sidewalks and l~tion and size of water and se r iin~~ ,I \ ~ ltfu~0 fJf'- Q( \J ~ER~ ~r~0 (jj... c, -1 IJ ". !f)\L' [};;'-, . ,. Site plan elements cont. (HOO-134) ( 1,,( ( v.-1' ( ( ( ) ) ) ( ) Any proposed grading, screening and other landscaping including types and locations of proposed street trees. The all and 1lA5lV-- all proposed waterlines, valves and hydrants and of or alternate means of water supply and sewage disposal location of sewer lines treatment. An outline of any proposed deed retrictions and/or covenants. Any contemplted public improvements on or adjoining the property. If the site development plan indictes only a first stage, a supplementary plan shall indicate ultimate develoment. Any other information deemed by the Planning Board necessary to determine conformity of the site plan with the intent and regulations of this chapter. .> '.f> " j "( oft .." . TOlfN OF SOUTHOLD e Dtc 311985 . . .." t." "" E~~IRON}reNTAL ASSESSMENT - PART I .. ...... . PROJECT I~rOro~~TION ~o':"::::; i'r.is~oc:.:.":"'.e!"t;~ de1tr;ned to J.ut'i: in .:1et2~'1':'1b9 '..n~t:-:~r' :::e !':~on =,rc;::ose~ T.ay 'lave ! ,;~~nificJnt !f~~c.::n tJ1e !~'1V1T"Cnment.. Ple~se c~r.:'Cle':~ ::-:'e ~nt1rt! 'J~~.l 5r.e-et. ;'ns..l!r,:o :~esC! ,~ue5t1ons ~;~l Je c~nslc!r'!d 1$ oar: or ':."le ~CI~:'3ticn fer !ccroval ind :r.ay oe suoj~: to f'JT':l'ler- '/e!"'t'ficJ.t~on md ~ublic r~v;ew. Prov'~e ~ny acoitional informacion ~QU Jelieve will ~e neec~ :~ ::~ote~e ?A~T3 Z and J. ~: is !:cce-=::: :~at :::::oi"etion of tl'te ~F ..-~11 ~e ~eoenee!Tt -:n infoJ""!':'tJ:ion cUl"'r~!':tly av!i table ir.d '~~1l not "valve ~e~ ~~ua.es..~!S2a~~.or tnvest'~a~'on. [0 tnfo~l:'on ~~ut~n9 such 3Q~1:;cnal ~or~ is~un~Ya:~QI!t i~ ln~lc3~a ana tQe~l.y i~~' In~:ance. . .--. .,-- ~r'~ ':~ ~qOJEc;~ '~'::-'E l~!O ,1.CC~::SS OF !'!'.JNE:~ rr, ~i'f';~~,!.,d --- -}:raiJ.nEt' .BOayo.Cluo-o Marine A~~n~;~rQ. (:Iarnel '. (S;:r"~e~: 'Ij~~~!! ':::0 .'I"~~E OF _];U"_ !~.~NT: Richard Carr B~W ~l1TTnik ;.J.j 3US!~E!S flr-CiiE; N~w Vnrlr l~ta:.a, "Q~'; (';'ill {~i.~e: . -i~ij".'F f.f":h..-A;-T~n'l'H::.lo':;-'R-nnni-"" ~ ?,:; (S:n~,;; ._--..__._-~----_. _._-.._---~ New York, NY (....)., 10118 p,c..ac.a) l,"l~j ":::::~!"~!':~~ ~F OCO.J~.:7: (Sr~!r'Y descrToe t,pe of ;H":]j~::': Jr 3c::-:~n) !5ite plan (?!..=.~SE: CO~PLEi'! E..\CH c:uESTro:~ :nc!'c::t~ ~l...\. ff nOt Jc~l iCJol~) , ...... A. sr:-; :~;i::U?T!O~1 ......"':=":?:: . .. -.------- ......:.:..:.:..:' '- . , '," .. . ":~""'.~..' ,,,.',.,~:~:~,,:;~-:~;:-:,:":.:;:'- "-~..i,;~l:: ::_:~';.:;~~ _?~\j'.:: ;:.~'~ !;hY57C21 ia!~~~; of o~e~11 proj!C~. ~Oth deveioc~ !na ~nc!velcced lr!rlS) . . .- '~',~:,""i";~".',: ::-::--'!f.-+~~:'i ':~'~;.,. ~. G~ne~!l ~'arac~!r ~f t~e land: ~ene~~ilt un;f~~ sloee ~ ~~nerai'y ~ev!n 4nd roiling ~r_ir~~ular , .. ~...:.o..~: :...-:.t........ ~~s2nt ~and "Jse: :.Jri:lan t tncus-:rial _, ':-9ricultt,j~ _.~r -' CQmrner=~al ~.~ S~cur~!n'~. :tu:,,!J_, ::or!s't .'........ J. ~a:31 ~c~~~qe 07 ~roject !r!a: ---1L!Cr!S~ .',' ....:. ~- ?resent~y Aft!r ~cmolet1Qn AecrOX1~ata Jcr~!ge: ?~!antl~, At't;~r Comoll!~~~" . ~e~1CW Qr 3rusnland !C~!S !c:"~s ~at~r SU~3C! ~~! -~!C~~S ~.e~s F'or~s ::~~ _lC:"''!S !-=:-~s "Jnv!!1'!!::J te'::l ~ :-:c::<. U.r"::'l "r fill; _!c:-~s _tcr~s ~91"'.C::Ji '::.:r!l _!cr~s _!=~~! ~:a~:;. :ll.:f1'.1~!":qs a.r.~ ~:::er JaV!:; i:Jr':'~C:S !e:"'!s _u::,,!! ~e~l~r.c: {=-~s~~at!~ or rf:~: !S ~~r ~~~~::~! :e. ~S :r ~.:.~.} _!cr~s _!-::'"'!! ~~-:!!!'" ~:nC:;:J:~ :J'~e; _!C:"'!S _iC:"'!! .I.. :,I'lJ.: is .,!"'~,:cr.1":n~n'; soli ~i'~"!{S) ')n-:rro:.e-::o: :ii~':=: !5and loam mix i. ~. Ar! ~~!~~ ,ee~ex :ut:~:~j~;s =n :~jc:~ s::!? _____~~s ~,o .. '.ih!,: i~ ~.!~t.-: :~ :ed:-:c:<~ n/a ~ !.., .120.,,\ -. .. .,. :: ., ~~ J/~!7a '--~---'.. ..~ ....-.:.~....... .~~,,,,~,'~':?'t.~.":;.i.~~7:.....t:- ....,. . - --... ....' ., ......~.._~.~;.-.;.~:,.i.......,:_)~.',~...~.-.:_-.- ".;;:.~~.J..~::_:-:.~.:.:~~~"!,~,. .- -- -~-,- .. ~..;.:. .,. . . '. ~ . . e - .. ," ,. . 6. Ap~r"Oxkate ~er:ent!;e of proposed project site with slopes: 0-10: ...lQ.Q.:: 10-15: _~; 15: or grea te-r :':. . .~ 1. Is project con:igt,;ous to. or centain a building or site listed on the National Register of Historic Places? ______yes ~No 8. What is the da~th to the watar table? ~fe.t 9. 00 hunting or. tfishing ClP~ortunities ll.resantly exist in the project area? ______yes ..x.:..:.JIO oppor~Un1 y ~o De crea~ea upon con~truct1on 10. Ooes project site contain any species of plant or animal life that is identified as thre.tened or enc~nc~~~d - ______yes ~1Q. according to . Identify each species 11. Are ~~ere any unique or unusual land fo~s on the project site? (f.e. cliffs, dunes. other geological formations - ______yes ~~o. (Cescribe lZ. Is the project site ~resently used by the cc~unity or neighborhood as area - _Yes -2f...:~o. . d..".. . . '.. ..._. . an ~pen space or" rec~atfon ." .'. ." 13. Oo_~s the present site offer O~ inclu~e scenic vi~ws or vistas known to ~e ~Yes -110 . Important to .the cor.-rnunity? 14. Str.ams within or contiguou~ to project are.: water bOdY . a. HaIT!e of HxIllllll}lPl*JIII_}Q(x!X~ which it is l mt~1a Pp("'O{)ni,.. 'R:::IY i 15. L'Kes, Ponds, Wetland ar..s within or contiguous t.o project area: .....N/A. &. Nali.e ; b. Size (in acres) . 16. What Is the dominant land use and zon1ng classiflcat;on within a 1/4 mil. radius of the project (e.g: single fa~ily resiceotial, R-Zl and ~"e sc.le of development (e.g. Z story). C-1/AR 80 B. PROJECT OESC?I?TIO:1 1. Physical dimensions and scale of project (fill in dimensions as appropriate) a. Total contiguous aoreage owned by project sponsor 6 acres. b. Project acre.ge developed: 6 acres initially; -L acres ultimately. c. Project ac...age to remain undeveloped 0 ....... "n.\ d. Length of projec~. fn miles: n/~ " (If appropriate) .. ___._. e. If project is an expansion of existing, indicate percent of expansion proposed: building 'squ~re fe, age ; deyeloped acreage f. IIL.,,;,er of off-st....t parKing spaces existing ; proposed '175 (upon completion of project) g. Maxi~J~ vehicuizr trips generated per hour h. If residential: N",~l>er and type of housing units: One ',a.:nily Two Family Mul tip!e Family Ccnco~inium Initial Ultir.:lt! i. If: OrientJt~on Heigotoroood-Clty-_egionaJ Estim.ted Employment CQ:rr:2rcial Industria 1 J. Total height of tallest proposed structure '. "";1-. -. ......!;..-;. . .: :':..:;'. ~~., ~ . ,::::;;i:~r 25 feet. " ~, ., ~ '. . . , . " . . . - ..2. H~M much natu:"Jl r.lJ.te:-ial (Le. reck, e3.rth. etc.) .,.,ill be r!'T.o'/~d (rem the site .. o tons ~ cubic. yar 3. How m~ny acres of vegetation (trees. shrubs, 9rour.d covers) will be re~oved frc~ site - ~acres. 4. Will any mature for~st (over 100 years old) or ot~er locally-lm~ort3nt vegetation be removed by this project? ______yes ~~o S. Are thprc any plans for re-v2~etJtion to replace that re~ove~ during ccnstruc:ion? ~Yes ______No 6, If single phasa proja:t: Anticipated period of construction --3Uimonths. (including demolition). ., . "'-. 7. If multi-phased project: a. Total number of phases antioipated .-'L-lIo. b. Antioipated date of oo~enoement phase 1 ~month ~ear (includin' demo I iti on) o. Approximate oemoletion data final phase 9 89 ...onth --year. d. Is phase 1 finanoially dependant on subsequent phases?______yes ~ 8. Will blasting oocur during oonstrJction? ______yes ~lIo 9. Num,er of jobs generated: during oonstruetion ~: after projeot is oomplete ~. 10. Nu~~er of jobS eliminated by this project ~, 11. ~Ill project require relooation of any projects or faoilities? ~Yes ______110. If yes, explain: possible'relocation of pre existina buildina and construction of new 12. a. Is surface or subsurfaoe liquid waste disposal involved? ~Yes ______No. b. If yes. indicate type of waste (s.~age, industrial, eto.) sewerage c.. If surface disposal nzr.:e of stre,ar.t into '""hich effluent ',fill be dfsd:arged n 1Ft 13. ~jl1 surfa~e are! or exis:ing lakes. ponds, s:re~s, bays or ct~ei surface water~ays be increased or decreased by ~rc~osal? ~Yes ______No. 14. Is projl!c: or any portion of projec~ located in the 100 yea!'" flood plain? -A..-Yes _No 15. a. Does projeot involve disposal of solid waste? ______yes -ll--No b. If yes, will an ~,isting solid waste disposal facility be used? ______yes ______No c. If yes, give na~e: i location d. Will any wast2s not go into a sewage disposal syst=m or into a sanitarJ landfill? ~Yes 16. Will projeot use heroicides or pestioides? ______yes ~~o 17. Will project routinely produoe cdors (mere than one hour per day)? ______yes -L-No la. Will project proouoa operating noise exceeding the local Offibience noise levels? ______yes ~No 19. Will project resul~ in an inor..se in energy use? ~Yes -----"~o. If yes, indioate type(s) ~ Lona Island Liqhtinq Company 20. If water supply is fro::1 wells indic~te pur.:ping c~:::c?city 25 gals/minute. Zl. Total anticipated water usase _er day _lj,OOOqals/day. at maximum 21. Zoning: a. :.lha t is de;:'!; nant 'zon j"9 cl.1ss;ffc~t;cn of s; te? c-l b. Current s;::ecl fie zonir.g cl.!~sif;c,1tion of 'ij:e c-l c. Is ;;lrr;~osed use ::I"\SiS:2r.t 'iI;t!'! .,reien: zoning? y,::a.. d. I f no. indicate desired :onin~ *- -3- : :- ';:i;~;"i:;i..., .:~ :. <J~ifi.~~ .~- .:,,' " '. . . - . , 26. Approvals: a. Is any Federal permit re,Jired? ~Yes -----"~o b. Does project involve State or Federal fundins or financing? ______yes ~No c. Local and Regional approvals: Approv.l Recuired (Yes, 1/0) (Type) City, Town, Village Board City, Town, Village Planning Soard City, Town, Zoning Board City, County Health oeoar~~ent Other loc.l agencies . Ot~er regional agencies State Agendes Federal Agencies ~ ~ ~ ~ " -.,' C. WFOR."ATIGNAL OE1AILS . . lYVCDltC & Nysns n~nn;2). NYSDS - Coa!!tal Con~i!!'tency-. Certifj,9f.te: . '.' . ~it:p W.r:lr(':.r1:,"jOw~r. .. Submittal (Oate) . . Approval (Oa tel .. Att.ch any additional info~~tion.as ~~y be needed to clarify your project. If there are or may be any adverse impacts associated with the prc?osaI. please discuss such impacts and the measures which can be taken to mltigat! or avoid. tern. . TITLE:: PRE:PARE~'S SI~~ArJRE:: REPf".!SWTING: . OAi::: .T~.._~_. )~~)(~ .:..::.,.......i;.~.... ~,';.. ~.:~:".":':;~'."':". ""to> .' . ...... ,',.:,;"::-,!:. --'--,,- ,., '" ';.' ~ ~ ..~:. ;..:>~; ~ '" ... .~/~~ ".- _:. .' ~.;''''':':-' -~ ~-,- ----'---- -._,--_----'.~--'-"--~-- , . . MARINA BAY CLUB To accompany Part I EAF dated 31 Dec. 85 EAF ENVIRONMENTAl. ASSESSm:NT - PART II Pro1ect Imo~cts and Th.f~ MaQr.itude Gen~~II I"f~~at1o~ (~'~d Cdr!fully) . In campl.tin, tne farm ~. rtviewe~ should be guided by thl question: Have my decisions and determinations been relsonable: The rev1...~ is not Ixpected to be an eXDI~t Iftvi~ftmlfttal analyst. . Idllltlfyfng tNt .. effect will be potentially h~e (cot_ 2) does not ...n thot ft is .lso n""essarilJ s1onif1ca~t. ~ny 1.~. .fftCt must bl Ivaluated in PART 3 to determinl significance. By 1d.nt~fyi~9 an ettect In coh.... Z sf",.ly uks that tt be tooked at further. . . The EJamol.s provided Ire to assist thl ~1...~ by showing types of effects and wfte"ver DOss;~le the threshol of A'IIgnnuoI that would tMgg.~ a NSPGnse in col.... 2. The IXlllOllS aN generally aDal icabT. tnrougftOllt thl Stat. and fo~ most situations. But. fo~ Iny sPlcif1c project o~ sit. other eXlmples and/or lower t"~esnoldS ...y be 1IIl.. ."roorfote for. Potential L.~e IlIlIIlct rating. . Each projt<t. on each sfte. in lach IOCllity, will Vlry. Th.~.fort. ~I fXamQles navI been offe~ed as guidance They do not constitute an exhaustive list of impacts Ind th~s"olds to answer eac~ nuestioft, . Thl nunbl~ of .xlmQl.s p,~ qUlstion does not indicate thl importance of eaen question. INSTRUCTIONS (Reid Clrefully) I. Answer elch of the 18 questions tn PART 2. Ans.....!s. ff there w;l1 ~e !!!I effect. b. Movbe .nswers should be conSidered u !s. Inswers. c. If answering ves to a ouestion then check the ap~rcDr1at. box. (column I or Z) to indicatl tMe ootent1al s1z. of the tmalct. If impact threshold equals or exceeds any examotl provided. eneck cclumn 2. If f"".ct wlllocour but threshold fs l_r th.. ex_le, check c01l_ t. d. If reviewer has doubt about the size of the imoa~t ~~en consider t~1 imoact as ~tentially large and oroceeq to PART 3. e. [f a DOtent1ally large impact O~ effect can be ,"educed by a chang! in the project to a less than 1arge magnitudM. pla,e a Yes in column 3. A No reSDons. indicatls'that such a reduction is not oossible. 1 2. 3 NIl yes 08 --- S~"'LL TO POTENTIAL c.lN IMPACT IE MOOERATE LARr,E ~EOUC,O 9Y IMl'ACT I~PACT pqOJECT CHANG, - - - - x ..L - - - - - - - .1L - - - - - - - IMl'ACT ON LANO 1. WILL THERE IE AN !;FF,CT AS 4 RESULT OF A PHYSICAL CHAtlGE TO PROJECT SirE? ~ Examol.s that Woula A~Ql1 to Column Z Any :o"stru.:t~o~ on sl:::o.s of 15: o~ gr.ate~. {15 foot rise Der 100 1'"oot of l!nat"l}, or wher. t!'le gene!'"!l slODes in the p~je~t Irta exceed 10:: J. Construction on Lana WMe!'"e t!'le deDt!'l to the water taale is less than 3 feet. N "'onstruc::ion of Daved oarldnQ 4~. ~fll'" 1.""" o~ mnre yenic:les. Jll Cen~t!'"uc!ion on 13"1 whe~e bedrock 1$ ex~osed or qene~al1y ".itl'!1n .l feet of existing 1P"'Ound su~face. ...E ConS:I"~c,::i~~ !ra. ..ill continue fo!'" mo~ than 1 'of'!!!'" or i"1'Ioi'le more :han ~r.! ~~as'! or stage. N ::",~~vo!.t~on """ ~'~'J"IO ::u~"ose$ ~~at .",ould ~!!!I1QVe ~Or!! ';.'lan 1.:CC ::.ns ~f r:a';:"orai r"":::!~1al (i.e. ~oc'< 0'" SOil) ;!e~ VUI". N ~ons:r~c:io~ o~ ~r.y ~e~ ~an'!a~~ landf'lt. .5- ., .~ .. ;;-- .- ~~ ~.. ,. ;,;;, <: - . :i- ConstrlJct,on in I designlt.d '100d'..,. FEMA Flood Ct.""" ill!Olcts: Zone A-4 _....._____ 2. :?J Tn _ILL THE~E IE ~N ErrEeT TIJ ~NY UNIQUE ~R UNUSUAL UM FnRl1S I'11v""'\ J'OU:-lO ON THE SITE? (t... clf";a. dunes. aeoloQfcal fo"",'" \.::l\...J ':'toons. tte.) . Snteit'fc hnci 'oms: I~DI.~ C~ WATr:t J. NIl YES WILt. Pl<<JJECi AFF!Ci ANY '.Ut? SOOT OESI~li:O AS ...........0 PROjt~,O? (Under ArtiCles 15. 24. 25 of the E~y1r" on_nul C:lns.ry,Cion Law. E.C.L.) y :%amol~s t~lt ~ould Ao~ly to Column 2 :lr"!dqtna "Ore tftln 101) cubic yards of :qte,.1al 'rot c~I""el at I ~rot!ctld st~L.. L ~ Construction in a des ignited freshwater or tfd.l wetllnd. - .. f Ot.."...ets: Apparent appropr~at~on 0 public Bottoms for priv~ use 4. WIll. ~ROJEC7 Mj:'Ecr A.NY ItCH..;t~OTEC:[::I EXISTl~h "R NFH NO YE! acor OF ~1"iC::l:? ............................................00 :ulI'.,les tnn: '_auld ~~oll to C::Ilumn 2 .\ 10: fnC:"'!lSe al" dec:l"e!Se in the surface ,rei of an)' !lod)' of .'':el'' 01" 'IlOl"e thin 4 10 ler! fne~ue or decrease. C~nstl"'Jc::~on of I 'Jady of ..te" tJ'Iat exceeds 1n Icru of sur'!'ac! ire!. I)t!'le" i'MIC::S: ---------- s. '~:L1. ~QOJEC";' ~rr:CT SUltj:'AC! ~~ lj:!CU1404An:~ nI1Al.l~'! ,"0 n:3 :x!~ol~~ :~It 40uld .\,,1)' ~~ Cal~ 2 o ..::J. J. '''''~~C: ..it! /"'I!lu'ir~ a dtsc~arge gel'!!l;C. """~f-:: ~f-:Ul~S "JSo! of i scu!":! of '''at.!r t."": dees not MI',! JlJ:;:"o:lvI i :: S'''ve :r-:l:osed ~rOHC:. .J. )...,;~:: "~':'J~r~s ...ate,. sl./e:]', f...,m..eits ",it.'" "r~!t!'" :~dn ,'S :.1:0n5 :'1" _'lt1nut! 'l~~01n9 '.10ae1:Y. .J:I ::I"s:r.~c::.:::" ,,. ::::e,"l:~on .':,Jl.lS1~~ any cont.11"11I'!at10n ,f 1 ~~cJ;c ~a:!r suoo]y s!S:!~. ~ -N '~:;ee: .., r ~ ilc',el"H'1 af4'!c: ;~U:le"'iI:!!". . ':u' ':I ~,:.... ';e'l: .01: t :e ::I'lveyl!J ,f~ ::-:'!! S! ';! .. "1:.1.,;'!~ .."1::.., :,.esoe.,:lj ~o "'0: ~x'S: Or "lhe . "~-::!'=:J.!; ';! ;] o.!e ~ : /. E.. 'oO:: !:: .!'='~'''' "-: J 4'11::"':/ :".1:' ,,"u:.:: .,.lSo! .......... ... ! 1:'~~ ';. :r., ":.;. ;J : . -:~s oe" :.1. x.. ---...: .. ...~:! :J~!~ ~":J:'~n .. ::-o!.. :. ~::- J ..:~ ~"~:'oO; ::=! :~..~:!.. :: :oO ~ - -: /': 4S .' ,..4 ::1"::"15: ~.:!..: .,~:.~~. :-1: :-!"~ .-........... -.'-" .. ~~'J,L!. ;" 'EitlTE '''0.1;''1 ...L . 1. "n'j~.'f~::.l 1..\I~GC: ~:W"'!.C~ .L. ....K. x t. "'l w. ,:,,:,,"1 ;"1'''-C7 H ~EC!JC.c:J 3Y ::~.;:.:: -:~.Hlr:: x x x x ..JL '~ .JL X --'--., , ....x.. ..JL ...K.. X -I -X. -X. -X. ....1l - . I)tl't.,. INlets ~ I. :llLl. PIltlJ[CT AUtl 01..11,\1;1 Fl,!)l', p.m~ 01 5lJI'V.t flAm:lll YU 11'.111'''"' ............ .... ..................... .............. 00 b....,. tllIt ~"'4 .1"'1 to Col_ 2 P"'11Ct ..,,,ld 1""0 flOOd wlte,. flows. Project 11 lftely to Cluse lubstlfttfal l",s1aft. Project ts 1nco.alt1bll .f~ ..fltfnt dratn." D_tearns. Dt/l.,. 1....eu: In excess of 5' of fill i.s necessary in places r""AeT'trt I,fIt III YES 7. ~ILl. PlIOJtCT A'FtCT All OtlAl.ll'f?...........................O 0 r.....'.. tIIlt Noul4 .11101, to COl_ 2 ,,,,ject .Ut hle.uea 1.!)OQ or III'" ",,1el. tr1ps 111 1ft, the hour. ,,,,Ject .111 mule fn Ute fnc1rtentfOft of _,. tIt_ 1 toll ~, musI De" hour. Project ~SlfOft "Itt 01 .,1 COfttl'rinlnts will ..c~ 5 lbl. ar hour or . "In sourel '''"QdUCfnllJ !lID" VII" 10 .fltton Bruls per hour. Dtfter fIllGICU: r~'rr ~N ~ I~ A~ INr~4' ~ 8. ~ILl. PIlO.l[CT A'FtCT AJrt THRtATtlItO OR E1tOo\lOltJltll SPECIU? :Ill YtS O€) E~I.aI.s thlt Would ADoly to CQlu.n 2 AeductfOft of Ofte or ~,.. spectes listed Oft th_ r..., Yor. 01" Fldel"l1 Tht. uSinCJ tftt sttt. OWl" 01'" ".... sHI or found Oft t'" sftt. A~v.' of Iny ~,.tfo" 01 I critical or stanifiClnt wild- It,. /I.",t.lt.. ,l,D':'1 fcat'tnn 01 Pesticid. 0,. ."rbtc1 ~u 0'11'." ""roe tJ1ln b'1C! . ;"el," otl'l.,. than fOt- ~~c~.tu,"~l IJwr''PDIo!S. -2 (It.''~," fr:=lcts: .Possible 9. 'fIll P'lOJ[CT SUBST.&:tTlAllY AFFECT rlON.THRtATE:lr:l OR NO YES E~O.or,EREO SPECIES? ............ ........... ...... ..........00 E%.mol~ that ~uld ~oo'y to Col~ Z L rl"OJl!'ct -.auld !uostantu,l1y int.rl'lt\"l!' wH:1 .n~ ~s;I1l!'"t O~ m;9~ltory f15:1 Or' ..ndl1fl!' S~l!Cl'!S. ltl"':)jec': "'!al.l;I"'~S tl'll!' "~Vll of 1"'01'"' t~ln l~ acr,s ~f :':'I.Itu", 'el",st (0"'1" l'Jn YI!!I"'S i" !nej ~I'" ~:~t~ l::c:.allv imOQI'"':3nt 1~et.tl0n. , . -2l -A 'tALL l't' OEPArt I:-tPACr - - - 1. 2.. - PnY['fTIAl LARGE I"'CT . _. x - - L- - ~. f CAn I"PACT B[ RECUC." Cf FIl'lJECT CN.PlGE .x. .' .. . 1. ..h- e:~LL T~ cCTE~TIAL r-DERATE LAROE I:~C!.- _ ra::.;C':' 1"'"^CT Co; ':rSt'.".. DC:~~~'RCt 1~. \JILL ~E U('l.Jrcr Ur'ic:" 'II~I!. "ISTAS '::t T'!lf V'!W'-L t~AW:TER OF THE nFlGHI'1R"""O nR CO--liT"? .............. .,., YEI O~ Exo1IMltS tt'lat lIould A:II:11y tQ CotUlll'l 2 Y An incolflOlttbt. ,;,tsUlI .f'tet clused by t..,. tnC1"O"uct1C'1" of It'" /ItIurhls. colors and/or fof"l'llS tn "'''tru: to tn. surraund1"~ landsCa,t. ~ A orojec: ..stly visibl.. nat ..stly SC~"ed.:~.t is QD'IiO",11 d1ff....,,: f7"Olll .,th,," around ft. ~ P",jlCt ..,111 l"'eSya in tn. elif"inlCton 0" l'IIjol"' 5e"'"1"9 of scentc v1ewl or v1S:IS known to bt ,t,,"run: to ~. 11"'11. Oth,r tllliCNlCts:' I~&CT ON Hr~TOqrC RESnURC!S 11. WILL PRD.lECT IMPACT ANY SIT[ OR STIltJCTURE OF H!STIlRlt. 1<<1 YES PRE.HIl<TnPlt nR PAUnNTD-.IClL II'I"lPTANCE? .................~O Ex.moles t~lt ~uld ADOlv to Colunn Z ~. PP't".1t<< OeCUM"O 'IlIl'lally 0" t)ll'"thlly wtthtft or conttauous to In1 'lcil1ty or stt. lfstld Oft the Natton,1 Reetsi.r of "hear;c ,heu. . An~ tmalct to an l~nlOl09ical sttl or fosstl b~ locatld Il'ttJ'lin tl'te l'rajtet S'itl. l'Jtftlr ~""lctS: IMPACT ~N ~P~ sPlcr S R!C~EATT~~ 1 Z. WILL THE PIlI1JECT AFFECT THE OUANTlTY OR OUALlTY OF EXISTI~lG NO yr.s OR FUTURE OPEN SPAtES OR REtRt~TIONAL OPPORTU~ITIES?..... ~<::) E~~les tnlt Would Aoply to Colunn 2 ~f l'e~n'"t foreclosure of a future recreational oooortuntt~. A ~jor ~duction of In ooen SoIC~ t~ortlnt to t~. comnunicy. !')ther t!llOICt'!: I"'1I4C'r "'t n,lNSPl1lJniIC'1 1 J. ~IIt.L. T''''e:~e: ae: AN ::FF::CT i'0 txrSTWC rIUNSPORTAT!l'lN SY$iM? ............................................... _0 YES <::)~ E~amol.s :~It ~ould l~"tv to Column Z y A1Ur'at10n of ~r'se"t ~4tUms of ""vel"'e"t of ".oole Uld/or ;000$. ~~~l1ec: "'111 ~~Su]t 1/" uver~ tr'!f"iC '"oeol,I'ls. .x :t"" ''''c'' , Impact of _~e9:ted_tjD-or spoil haulinq durinq construct~Qn -.li. L... ..1L -' --JI:. :t. C.\:l U~P^CT U !EOUtED ~y eRn~~!.~':i.~ x ~ .-ll .,. -X.. "- . --:-- . . 1 2. ! nth,1" impacts: S1'ALL Tn PIlTE!lTl..\L I CAij IHPACT CE "lDER.lTE LA~GE REDUCED BY I~PACT I'~ACT PROJECT C~.ANGE . - -~ -- - - - - - - - - - .- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I~PACT ON ENERGY 14. WILL PIlOJECT AFFECT TlfE COIMJNITIES SOURCES OF FUEL nR NO YES tNERr.Y SUPPlY? ...... .....................................~ 0 Ex....les tIlat Would Apply to Coh... Z 'V Project causln, o_tlr tIlan 51 tnCrt..1 tn Iny fo,," of ..Irgy uSld tn munlclpallty. Project requlrin, thl C""tlon or IXClnslon of In lnergy trans_inion or supply syst.. to 51"'" .... tJtln 50 s1n<<fl. or too f...ly residencls. Otlllr illlplcts: _ IMI'ACT ON NOISE 15. WIll TlfERE BE OBJECTIONABLE DOORS. NOISE. GlARE. VIBRATION NO YES or ELECTRICAL DISilJllllANCE AS A RESUl.T OF TlfIS PllOJECT1 ....(!)O ExilJllllTos tIlat Would Aooly to Col_ Z !l..tln, wlt1l1n 1.500 fHt of I hospltal. school or othlr Slnsltl.1 flcl11ty. Odors will occ~r rout1nely(mare than on. hour per day}. Project will oradue. OOlrAtin9 naisl exceed1"" the laeai lII'Oilnt noise "."ls for noh. outside of st'MICtures. Project will ~"e natural barr1,~s tftat would act as I no15. 'creen. {"'lCT OM HEALTH! HAL~~OS 15. ~ILL PIlOJECT AFFECT PUBLIC IlEALTlf AND SAFm? Ex....I.. thlt \jould ~poly to Col_ Z NO YFS .............<:.>0 Project will cause a risk of !x~los1on or re~e.s. of ~.zardaus substances (t.e. 011. pesticidr.s. chemicals. rani.ticn. etc.) in the event of accident or uaset conditions. or there .ill be a chronic low level discharge or ~;ssion. Project that will l"esult in the burial of "hazardous .utes" (i .!. toxic. :o1sonous. ""9"1.'1 Mlactive. radioactive. irritatin9. infectious. etc.. ;ncludiM wastes that are solid. setlli-soHd. 1 iqY;d or contain gases.) Stor!oe faciliti~5 for one million or mare Qallnns of liouif1ed natur!1 gas or otner liQuidS. litner ; m~acts: -;"- I I I I , , I I I I I I I i I ,',0 . I~OAr:~ C~: ~;C',.r,"'H :.so CiJ,I;UC":"~~ OF c~~..!~r":"v ~::! '1~!,;;.rQ~'WI'!M 17. WILL ~~OJECr ~F~:CT iHE C~A~^Ci~~ ~F THE EXISir~G ~O YES ::~~:r::a~'~~~;~'~~~~~'~:'~~;~'~""""""""""".~<::> The ,aQulation of tn. City, Town or Vfl11~' in whtch t~e proJe~t is loc!c.d 1s likely to 9~ by more tn.n 51 o~ reSident h~1nln QOQulatfon. The IIlUnfct:lll budgets for clotul e'Cl2endftur's or O~""I- t1n9 serYlCeS will 'ncr.ase by mo~e th.n 51 per ~elr as a result of tn;s project. .111 'nvolve iny 'e~lne"t 'lc111ty of I non-agricultural use in In Iql"teulturll dtstl"ict or r!rl'l).... ",.;;,:, agricultural lanGs frem (1.11 chutan. The oroject will reolac! or .11minate ..1S:1"9 fac11ftfes. nNctUl'"'S or !M!U of n1stor;, flllCloruncl to tft. c:mrunHy. Ceytloc~~nt will indue. 1ft influx of I Plrtic~lar age grouo witn speCial ntedS. Project will set In tmoortlnt prKedent for' future profects. Project will relocate lS or more ~loyees tn one Or' ~r'e businesses. "t~er llllOlctS: la. !-IO YES .......00 IS THE~E PUBLIC CONTRCVr~SY CONCE~NING THE PR~JECT? ~2l~olts tn.: ~ould ~DOly :0 Column 2 .liI. Ef:nt~ SDVe~~"t or.citizens of 14jac!~~ c=~unit1es ~.ve ex,ressed ~o=osit~cn or rejec~ec t"e Orotfct or ~aye ftot Ot!n centac:.d. .:i.. O~ie':-:;=ns to the nl"'O:!':: fl""am w;e!'lin the co~nj:v. . "A" " ;::O:E:i,lA. G:o.," ...,......, Q~ ~CE~r~ I.)"ll:iit: .~E~UCr~ " ~~~P~Ci m"4C~ PO:OJE~i :~~SGE - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - J.... I -X. IF ANY ~C7tCN I~ ~.~T Z !S !CE~rr!;!EO ~S ~ i'I'lTE:'fTI)'l. U;;:r.~ I~P)'c:'" en IF veu ~NNOT C!7E~I~jE . THE ,lIt.AG:HTUOE OF :I'!PACi. P;::OC!::!) iO PA~r J. pl)RT.rCNS 'JF E,.\F C:UP~!7E:J ,OR 7iiIS ?'~C';E'C7: PART I l pORT II ~ "RT J -1L- OETEP.l'ATl~' ~CO" "ev'!'Jrf of t~e lMo~at10" "!COI"'<:M on :n;s DF (~Irts 1. 2 1nd JI Ind cons'ieel"tnq ootn tr.e ~J.anit:Jde and lrnnOl"Unc! af totc:! !.~ac:. It Is rl!:lISonaoly deierm1ned :nat: .I.. 7'he 'Mje-:~ '.111 r'esult in no .'r.a;or II"!:Jac-:s aMd. ~"e~'ef:lr'!. ~s o~e ~n,~~ ~ay .not :3use si;ntfic3nt :amaee ~~ ~~I! !nvj~"~nt. 3. ~:~~:ue" ~~! =r~:!-:: ::~Id ~ayt a s~~nlficJ.nt !~~~-:: =n :~e ~I'lV11"':J1'1~":, ~~!r! .111 'Ie: :e I si;ntficJ.n: "!U!-:: l!'l t:'l1S CHi :t':3'Jse :.'!! 'lI;~j'jH,Oft "!':t!sur!s ':!Scl"~::led ;n .',.,~7' J ."lave :.!rt 11'lCI'~C!'j H :M': ~f :~e :),.oc.;sea :l"'~:!'::. . .~ :~! 01" ~or! ~a::,. !C~~P~! '~:!c:s CJUSt slnn14'CJ~: :~~!~f .~ - 7''', :::,.':),!:: ~11 ~ ~!~::c:,,:,' .: . .:"'. :::.. -r=- :~E,=;'''E' ..\ 'IE,'::";"IV:: =tCLtiUiiC,~ o ::;"~:,,:..\~ :. 'lE,'l)'l':',e ~E::';'~~7'::~1 ~ o < .=:i::::~,:!: 'i:'s:-:-:n' ::::'.:;.~7':;:1 :;~:~;: '..:-:" ;:$ .~, -: ; ~ :::! . ,-" .~~;:.;' :-1' . t" f ~ . . . E" ElIVIROllllEHTAL ASSESSl1ENT . PART III IVAIJ/!!IOiL OF TIlE I~>f1RT~E.at [l!PAcn I~FtIRMATlOR - Part 3 ts preparod if 0"" or mort impact or effect is co"sidlred to bl potl"tially larol. . The UDunt of w..iting necessary to Ins...... 1I.n 3 may bll d.te"",ined by .ns....ing the Question: In b..iefh complltl"9 the l"structl0"S bllow ~ave I placId i" t~is record sufflcient i"formatio" to I"dicate t"e J"IIsonlOllftlSs of m" decisions? IHSTRUCTIOIIS eo",,11" the fOllowi"9 for each impact or Iffect ldentifled 1" eol_ Z of P,rt Z: 1. Brilfly describl thl l..act. Z. OIscrlbl (If aooltcable) how thl i..act 1Il19~t bl IIl1tlgated or reduced to a less t~a" 1"~1 j..,act by , pro- JICt c~a"gl. 3. Stsed 0" thl I"formatlon avallabll, decldl tf lt is reaso"a.ll to co"cludl that thls i""act Is 1moort'nt to thl minlclpality (city, town or vil1agl) tn whlcH thl project is located. To .ns..... tilt question of Imporunce, conside..: - Thl probabl1ity of thl impact or effect occurri"9 . Thl dUlatio" of thl I..act or Iffect - Its trroYlrslbility, Includl"9 permanently lost rosources o. valuts . Whether tn, 1~lct or effect can be controlled . The I""tgionll consequence of the i~ct or effl!Ct . Its potentill divergence from local needs and 9011s . Whether known Objections to the prnject a~oly to this fmolct 0,. effect. - OrnRl'IRATl~N OF SIG:IIFIc:,\~CE l L ^n action is considered to bft significant if: "ne (0. morol Imoact Is determined to bath ~ and Its (~~Ij.) cons..ue"CI, based 0" t~1 .evlew above. is 1mcortant. PAP! III STATt~ENTS (Continue on Attachments. as needed) .\1. " ,. . . MARINA BAY CLUB PART III 1. Considerable fill may be necessary to raise land levels to accomodate construction. It may be decreased by limiting fill necessary to the locations of the structures themselves and for proper drainage. All construction will be in a designated flood zone. 3. Considerable dredging of an unspecified amount of untested spoil material and disposal at an unspecified site will be necessary. Construction is shown to take place in an intertidal zone. Construction is shown to take place on underwater land of the Town of Southold and/or New York State outside of the "grant". The legality of such action has not been established. 5. All project water must use on-site wells to be approved by the Suffolk County Departmentof Health Services.A sewage disposal system must be approved by the Suffolk County Department of Health Services. Groundwater flows in the area may be adversely affected. Siltation due to construction/ dredging may occur. 6. Surface drainage patterns may be altered due to fill. 8/9. In the absence of a habitat analysis, disturbance to shellfish resources may be possible, especially in areas not now utilized for marinal or docking activity. 10. Enlarged and new structures will alter the visual character of the area. 13. Increased traffic on local, narrow roads will occur. Potential negative impacts of construction traffic including hauling of fill or spoil is expected. 18. Significant local controversy has been generated. -- -----.........- --------,...--- -.-.-- . · FE B 111985 ROBERT L. TOOKER ALLEN M. SMITH TOOKER AND SMITH ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELORS AT LAW 1380 ROANOKE AVENUE POST OFFICE Box 839 RIVERHEAD, NEW YORK 11901-0602 516-727 - 3277 KEITH E. KAMMERER OF" COUNSEL ,JONATHAN D. BROWN February 7, 1985 Secretary to Planning Department Town of Southold Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Re: Marina Bay Club Ltd. Dear Madam: Enclosed please find one completed Planning Depart- ment Application together with our check for $100.00 for the filing fee. Henry Raynor tion sketch plan. sketch plan. has already provided you with a founda- This application is to accompany that At this time we do not request that we be placed on the Planning Department agenda as changes and addi- tions to the project are being made. Very truly yours, It! k 7), l/- Will~am D. Moore Applicant for Admission to the New York Bar WDM:gs Encs. (Check $100.00) 6~'f ---~ - . t . , n I e g 0 s s 0 C I a e s 600 hempstead turnpike, west hempstead, new york 11552 516-486-5340 Transmittal of Drawings - Prints, etc. 'JAN30\985 TO, ............. .......~.?~~~?.1..d P l":n.!li.!l!:'i..I3.c:>":'::9......................................... Main Street ......................................................... JOB .......I;:1":.r:i.!l":....~":.Y...~1..~.t....~.s..s.?:.~.~~.~.~....................... LOCATION ...1'!~.\"....~".r.f9..P~L...r:r:Y..........,....................................... ....................................Sautha.ld.,. .N.ew....York........1..1..9.:l..1..................................... OUR JOB NO. ...............8.!t."...12.Q.......................................................... DATE ......."./.2.\)./.85...................... ATTENTION OF, ............. ITEM NO. DRAWING NO. DATED SUBMITTED IV NO. COPIES 1 3 Copies of Existing conditions and proposed foundation plans for above job sent at the reauest of Henry Raynor .. WE ARE TRANSMITTING HEREWITH VIA MAIL THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. . SUBMITTED FOR APPROVAL .................... .m..........................................ITEM NO. ............................m............ ................... o APPROVED ................................ ............................... ................... .... o APPROVED AS NOTED .............. ........................................................ .... o FOR CORRECTION ............................................................................................"" ........................................ ....................... o FOR YOUR INFORMATION .............................................m............................ .. ........................................ o PLEASE SUBMIT .................................. CORRECTED PRINTS OF EACH ITEM NUMBERED .................. .................. .............................,.................................. ...................................................................... ................................................................... ...............................................................,.... .................................................................. o ............................................................................................................................... o ..................... ............................................... ........................................................................................ .......................... ................................... o ......................................................................................................................................................... NOTE: PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE RECEIPT OF THIS TRANSMITTAL CC. Tooker & Smith Henry Raynor YOURS TRULY, nle,o associates ..~~.~...6.......................................... ................................................................................................................................... ,'Y ',~. -<, ,,\~<:"> -;:.". _.....I/r-- ,< . .. .~.' \\.JL)..../":'\ - TOWN OF SOUTHOLD y~ . i . 'FEB 111985 , . . t . , ,'. ..., . ,..", t... .. ""', . ',: - ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT - PART I PROJECT I~TO&~TION '. . ~T:C!: This "~Qe:.:"l".e!1t ;, designed ta .lui'St 1n deta~n;:'lq ...h!t:-:~r ~":I!lct~on ,reposed lIay "ave ! lfqnific:ant .f'f!c: ," the !~yin:nment_ Ple!.sa como let! t~e !ntir~ ~au She'!t. Ms~@r,:o ~:;esa .~uestfons lint ~e c:lnstae~d !.S :I.n: of :..,e aoplfcJ.tion icr a.~aroYa1 -Ina ;nay ~e sui:lj~-: t.o further- "ertt'1cJ.t~onlnd ;JubJic: rsv;!W. Provide anY.G4iciartal information 1CU oelieve will ~e nee~ed :0 c:~olete ~ART3 Z ana J. :: is ..ce<::~ 1:/Iat ::maletian of t.~e EAF '.ill ~e decen~em: ~n Infal"lllu;an CU~"cfot ay..flab1e and '.ill not ."valve ~~ Stud1es..~saa~~ or tnvest1qa~ian. If fnfQ~~~tan r!~uf~n9 such aGd1;ional ~r~ fs~unava:~cle.. I~ tndic~;! and s~e~t;1 !a~~ ins>ance_ . , .~." "';'::- , .,,,,. ;;Af.'E ,'F ~qaJE~:. 't:,-"E ~NO .~CCR:SS OF nWNE~ rrf !)ii:''!r~"t1 '.~_."~- :';~'~..'.~:..:;..~ .... ., .: '.~ -. .....~..~ .. t.......::...;;.~. .' " MARINA BAY CLUB LTD. .0 ... ~ 1 . , '..' ~ . MARINE ASSOCIATES, INC. (:Iante} C/O ROBERT TASKE~, ES~. (.5tr"!~!:) : . . 7...~: . .tOO~E!! J::O :rA.~t OF .5::tDr_!'=-~NT: RICHARD T.. CARR 425 Main (1:J.) Street, Greenport, N. Y. (Stataj. IZ:p) 1 i9'4 4 (~~: ..-. ,,"PI'4-...Eas-t-'8-6th Str-eet-..- 3IlS":~E!S ?HOllE: 1516\ 477-1400 (S'ra~t; .. - . . . .--.--------.-.--.-.- ~,w York. New York I ,-. j IS<:.ace) 10Q28 '''PI l"'-.~"~"" ...... 9E;c~!O,!O~ 9F "9JC:.:7: (Sr;ef1y aescr;be ti'Pe of ~""j.c~ ~r ac:i:n) Marina, Boat Storaqe, Restaurant and. Retail Development on Site of North Fork Shipyard I , . ~ .. , . -< .. ,-- . I (?L~'SC: COMPlEio EACi CUE3i,Oll - tndic3te 11.~. if not ...ljc~.I.) , :~'~.. .' A. . 5t:';: ~ESCaIPr!C:1 ....:~.~::. .': '.-...__..._.;_.;,:~~--- ~: ....~.:~':.:-l:"' :~ ~.~.:: ;~:'I":_:' ,;....~ ,.,,' ... . .:~' '":"(:--".~:~:::~ ~ .,' ... ._.. . -~'.i,;J.I~:r--:i-::~; ';.~~i~~;: ;'.,;'f,.<- ~ (p~y'~C!J iat~~~; at o~er1tl ~roj~c~. both deveJocee !nc ~deYelcaed 1r~~5) . - . ,-,... " . :~'.~~~-~'f:";< .'~-;j'r.-!,~';:'. .;:: .~;< ". . t. G.!ner!1 c.,arac,,:ar of t."te tand: lienerai1y unifi:J~ slaDe.....A-- Ganeraity uneven and ra11 tnq l3r.).rT"'!9u1ar - Or , , .- .to-" . . -, . - r................ ..,~(.... ~r:sent ~a"d :.Ise: Urban , tncus-:r'tal ~. Cc~e!'C~!1 ~.~. SUDuroan _, A9ricultuT~ _.tit:ier -' ~u:,,!.l -' ~or!s't .' ... -~ .,..-..... 3. i"ot~1 .lCr1~qe 01 ,rojKt !rea:3~o!.C~s~ . ~poroximaca lcr~age: ~e~~cw or ~rusnland :'resantly Al't~r Comph,=~on ......... ~rese~t1y Aftar ~cmalet1Qn . 0 !C~~S 0 _.. _lens ~ar~s :ad -L!cr!!' --'L-1C:;-'!s ....Jl.....c... ~!c:"!S ~at2r SU~3C! ~~1 (\ ,,.-.oss ~.._.. UnV!!1~~3t~1 :~cx. I.T:::"I ~r- fill; o o ~q~~:.Ii '::.:r!1 o !::-~5 - _!C~~$ _Jeres ~e~!~r.c {~~~S~wdt!r ar Tf.:!i H :lI!r ~r";'::-:;!S ~(. :5 ;r !.:.!...! 'Cdd~. ~ui!d!~~s an: ~ ::-::!r' Jav~~ 3ur':"1.C~S ~!::"',s ~'c"es ....Jl....!cr"!s _.Q_)o:::-~! ~t:::!!~ ~:nai:.l:.! ~1'Jej !C:'"~S _"e:"'!s ~. ~~J: is ~~~~cm~n!n~ SOli t~~II!{s) ~n 1ro!~: 1~~!: Sand i. ... ,~r~ ::.':=~~ "Jeero:c:< :ut:~:~f:I:;s .:n ~~ie~': s:,:!? _r'!s ....x.-'o ~, '~j uLtra ~;t~.:: .. .~5t is e~~t~ ~~ :ed~:cX? (!:: "':t.,,\ ...., ........... .' '.'-'.-.' ..... .... ...-;. ~~. ..:.".~..~..;.;'lfiJ;'I:ii.~r~....t . .;-.~;~/~~':f~::~~;"~ ~~:;~;!'~." .: . ':J. ~.....: ~ .-:,,~.~,"';f,.~ - ;-'::;.,)~.i'." ~-,..~~....,.... _...-~.. ---..~- ~ +. :;, -~~.. ., -- ~ " , . '-',.. --:..:. ....:,.. "., ,"" .)..~. . . 6. Approxi"a t~ pereent.ge of proposed project site with slopes: greater ~~.. .... . .: ; ...... 0-10: X :; 10-15: ~i 15: or - - 7. Is project contiguous to. or contain a building or site Places? _Yes ~Ho 8. What is the depth to" the water tabl~?'lPProi,l!~ 9. listed an the Hational Register of Historic ~ hunting or fishing opportunities presently exist in the project area? ______yes ~No 10. Does projeet site contain any species of plant or animal life that is identified as threatened or " end.ncered - ______yes ~lo, according to - Identify each species 11. Are ~~ere any unique or unusual land forms on tho project sit.? (I.e. cliffs, dunes, other geological formations - ______yes 2..:~0. .(Describe Is "the " project site presently usedby the comunity or neIghborhood as an open space or"rec"ation" _- area - ______Yes ~Ho. ...... .' . ....:.. . ..,...... 12. ;..~/ 13. Does the present' site offer or include scenic views or vistas known to be important to .the cclllllUnityl ______yes -LIla . 14. Streams within or contiguous to project area: . . ": I. NilII'.e of stream and name of river to whIch it is tributary /. i 15. Lakes, Ponds, Wetland areas within Or cCntiguous to project area: I. Ha...e Cutchogue Harbor/Peconic Ba,Yb. Size (In acres) . 16. What is the dominant land use and zoning classification within a 1/4 mil. radius of the project (e.g: single family residential, R-2) and the" scale of development (e.g. ~ story). ". A. ~sident:ial:" Agricultural " '''8. "PROJECT DESCRIPTIOII ". . .-~-' . 1. Physical di"ensions and scale of p~ject (fIll In dimensions as appropriate) " 3 :5 I. Total contiguous acreage owned by project sponsor acres. . " approx' 3 approx. 11. Proje~t a.creage developed: ~ acres initially; _ acres ultimately. .. c. Project acreage to" "remain undeveloped .25 .' :"':,<,:".;,;{:.'., "."C:;:)"' .' ~ -: : :'~'., :.. ..". '.,;::::: ~;. .."" ."', . ':1 d. Length of project, In miles: (if appropriate) .......... e. If project is an expansion of exIsting, indicate percent of expansion proposed: building 'squ~re f4 Ige ; developed acreage ". . . ". ~ .:. f. Hu..ber of off-stTtet parking spaces existing g. Maximum vehfcular trips generated per hour h. If ....sid..tial: Hllr.Iber and type o~ housing units: n' o "; proposed 0 . (upon completion of project) One 'Family Two Family Kultiple F<l/I1ily Condominium Initial Ultimate i. If: Orientation Heighbor'OOd-City-Regional E5timated Employment Co:rr::uc ia 1 Indus tri a 1 . -..:;<.. .:-,:~~'-~~. ; ..>::',,!;:;~i: .; ;-;".~ -:."'::::1 . ..';" '. ~:~~~~~l .~.,:~:;::,~~:.. 3. Total height of tallest proposed structure +" . feet. "' '.' ..-:-oi... --' -"',,".', " :-1 . . .,; - .. .. ........ A 0' '" ; *" t. .. " _._0' , . . -, . . ~ ~ / . . " ,2. How much natu,.] m.t"ia] (I.e. rock, earth, etc.) will be re~o,.d ',om the site _ tons .. o cubic yar, How many acres of vegetation (trees. shrubs, ground covers) will be removed from site - ~acres. Will any mature forest (over 100 years old) or other locally-Im,ort.nt ve~etation be removed by this project? _Yes ~~o . . S. A~e there any plans for re-ve~etation to replace that removed during construction? ______yes ~No 3. 4. 6. If single phase project: Anticipated period of construction _____months. (including demolition). '-. 7. ., . I.f multi-phas.d project: i. Total number of phases anticipated ~No. b. Anticipated date of commencement phase 1 ---1L-month ~ear demolition) .' 5 (including . ,...~ c. Approximate completion date final phase ...onth -a.2..Jear. .'.... d. Is phase 1 financially dependant on subsequent phasas? -=----Yes ~Nc 8. Will blasting Occur during constr4ction? ______yes ~No 9. Number af jObs generated: during construction _____: after project is camplete 0 . 10. Nu..ber of jobs eliminated by this project -2.-. . 11. Will project require relocation of any projects or facilities? .______yes ~No. If yes, explain: 12. a. Is surfece or subsurf.ace liquid waste dis.osal involved? ______yes --1i.-Na. b. If yes. indicate type of waste (sewage, industrial. etc.) c. If surface dispasal n...~ of streem into which effluent will be discherged 13. Will surface area of existing lakes, ponds, streams. bays or other surface watarAays be Increased or decreesed by ,roposal? ______yes ~No. 14. Is p~oj.ct or any portion af project located in the 100 ye.r flood plain? ~Yes ______Na lS. a. Does project Invol,e disposal of solid waste? ______yes ~No b. If yes. will an existing solid waste disposal facility be used? ______yes ~No c. If yes, give name: ; location d. Will any wastes not go into a sewage disposal system or into a sanitary landfill? 16. Will project use herbicides or pesticides? ______yes ~~o 17. Will project routinely produce cdors (more than one hour per day)? _Yes -Jr.-Ho 18. Will project produce operating noise exceeding the local ambience noise levels? Yes ~No 19. Will project resul~ In an Incre.se in energy use? ______yes ~No. If yes, Indicate type(s) I Yes - , --- ',"-. 20. If water supply is from wells indicat. pumping c.pacity g' ls/minute. 21. Total anticipat~d water usaga ~er day ____ gals/d.y. 21. Zoning: a. ~hae is dcminant .zoninq chssific:~ticn of site? C - Liqht Industrial Same b. ClJr"r-2nt s;eclfic zonir:9 chssifiC.ltion of 'ii:~ c. rs ,Pr-cposad use c:"sis:ant wit~ l'r-e~ant zoning? yes d. [f no, inc:!ic.Jt! desir-ed zonintj -..' .... -3- ":;;;~.'~~ : :'..(;:j$.;"->>" ~."""..."......a... ~. ".,", - . ',.- .;~.,!,;.ry;:.?.;.....:- ... 1 r- , -"" , , "0\ - .. c".... ..... ~. _", . .- ; . " -...-" 26. Approvals: a, Is any Federal permi t reG~ired? _Yes -L..!'o ., b. Does project involve State or Federal funding or financing? ______yes ~No c. loCal and Regional approvals: . . . , Approval Required (Yes, 110) (Type) Submi ttal (Ca te) Approva I (Cate) City, Town, Village Soard C~ty, Town, Village Planning Soard City, Town, Zoning Board City, County Health Cepartoent Other local agencies Other regional agencies ., State Agencies Federal Agencies - - ... ...... .: ;.~.,.:. 1,:'. .:.~:-"; ~.,:-<,,;:. :... ". ",;' ';;...;.- ,". . . :'. C. INFC~~TIQllAl DETAILS " ..... adverse impacts associated with taken to mitigate or avoid PREPARER'S SI~:ATURE: there are or may be any the measures which can be ~ . ,TITlE: Wi}l~am D, M:Jore, Applicant for Admission to'N~ YGrkBar ., REP~ESEllTIllG: . CATE: . TCX:lKER AND SMITH, ESQS., representing RICHARD T, CARR February 4, 1985 '0 _, , ' .~: ~~. 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III I ~ I )Ii I 'I " I II \ ,II, II I II II II II . ,I II III~:!,~ II I ~~~' I II ~~~ Ii II I. ..~~ II II I q. , I I I L______________________~", C:::::::________________ --;;:;:::u. j .......1<:>5'CI" . . ...... .~ . I i I i I J i~ II I - - . . FJR.9TSr~ET ENDER: ~- " "'t:l . Complete items 1 and/or 2 tor additional services. "C;; -i Complete items 3, and 4a & b. : . Print your name and address on the reverse of this form so that we can Q) return this card to you > . Attach this form to the front of the mailpiece, or on the back if space ~ does not permit. Q) . Write "Return Receipt Requested" on the mailpiece below the article number. -5 . The Return Receipt will show to whom the article was delivered and the date C delivered. ~ 3. Article Addressed to: " i c. E o u '" '" w a: c c <t Z a: ::> I- w a: , also wish to receive tl1e following services (for an extta fee): 1. 0 Addressee's Address Henry E. Raynor, Jr. 320 Love Lane Mattituck, NY 11952 4~; Service Type o "Regjstered lU !:;wIllie,! q Express 'KII~il D 1 nsured o COD D Return Rpceipt for Merchandis~ " u oS; i '" 15. 0'; u " a: c ~ ~ " a: Ol c 0;;; ~ :; - 2. D Restricted Delivery Consult postmaster for fee. 4~ "ll"1!f'3' ~~"fr 335 . Date elf Delivery , J 5. S' /tuo/ (~ddf,eSsee) _il /U( 6. Signature (Agent) I,-"(i(lcll , L _- _ ~ o ,> 8. Addressee's Address (Only if requestedt..)l: . -_.:and fee is paid) '! ~ .<: ';1- ~ g; ..!! PS Form 3811, December 1991 3: fr U.S.G.P.O.: 1992.307-530 DOMESTIC RETURN RECEIPT 4J...'ll' . .,.,.....lt~~;r. ., ~'.'_""'l> .... ~.:.~. ,jING BOARD MEMBERS It Orlowski, Jr., Chairman 'rge Ritchie Latham. Jr. Richard G. Ward Mark S. McDonald Kenneth L. Edwards SCOTI L. HAR Supervisor ephone (516) 765-1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Town Hall, 53095 M P.O. Box 117 Southold. New Yor~ Fax (516) 765-1. Cer-c.ified Mail: August 18, 1992 Henry E. Raynor, Jr. 320 Love Lane Mattituck, New York 11952 Re:.Proposed Site Plan for Marina Bay Club New Suffolk, N.Y. SCTM * 1000-117-8-18 Dear Mr. Raynor: Your August 13th response to our letter of August 10th has been reviewed. OUr records show that the outstanding issues set forth in our letters of July 30, 1990 and April 30, 1990, have not been addressed. And, since we have not received the revised site plan and the impact statement, we have been unable to proceed with the environmental review. The Suffolk County Department of Health Services is one of the coordinating agencies in this review. It will not proceed with your client's application until we finish our environmental review and issue the findings statement. Consequently, if your client intends to move forward, we must receive the ten revised copies of the site plan and ten copies of the revised impact statement. Please indicate when we can anticipate receiving the requested information. Sincerely, ?vA._,.--~.c:;rIKS ~~~orlowski, Jr. Chairman cc: Suffolk County Department Health Services - S. Costa i / .. e. St/6fI u(' I~I IS HENRY E. RAYNOR 3.'::121 LOVE LANE MATTITUCK, N.Y 11g52 AUGUST 13, 1992 SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD TOWN HALL SOUTHOLD , N.Y. 11971 RE: MARINA BAY CLUB SITE PLAN 1121121121-117-8-18 DEAR MR. ORLOWSKI: RE YOUR LETTER OF AUG 1121, 1992; THE ABOVE ACTION IS STILL PENDING BEFORE THE SUFFOLK COUNTY DEPT OF HEALTH SERVICES. AFTER SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH BOB JEWELL AND STEVE COSTA, SEVERAL ALTERNATIVE PROPOSALS HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED. TO DATE THERE HAS NOT BEEN A DETERMINATION MADE AS TO WHETHER THE PROCESSING SHOULD GO BEFORE THE SUFFOLK COUNTY HEALTH SEI~VICES BOARD OF REVIEW; OR FURTHER CLARIFICATIONS ARE NECESSARY TO PROCEED WITH THE WATER AND SEPTIC SYSTEMS NECESSARY. ALL OTHER ISSUES HAVE BEEN RESOLVED IN HOUSE, AS WERE REI~UESTED I N YOUR LETTERS OF 4/9121 AND 7/9121. THI4NK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE IN THIS t~ATTER. YOURS TRULY, " ? =--Lt-- ~ /\. /hj-r--cV HENR~YNOR AGENT FOR MARINA BAY CLUB ~. m@~~~~ii\\ n 1..\ II \ l\\JG 111~ It) lHOlO 101"'1 ~e~t'lN\NG BOAP,!L- .. .. PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS Bennett Orlowski. Jr.. Chairman George Ritchie Latham. Jr. Richard G. Ward Mark S. McDonald Kenneth 1.. Edwards SCOTI 1.. HARRIS Supervisor Telephone (516) 765-1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Town Hall. 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold. New York 11971 Fax (516) 765-1823 Certified Mail: _lI..ugust 10, 1992 Henry E. Raynor, Jr. 320 Love Lane Mattituck, New York 11952 Re: Proposed Site Plan for Marina Bay Club New Suffolk, N.Y. SCTM * 1000-117-8-18 Dear Mr. Raynor: On July 30, 1990 and April 30, 1990, this office sent you letters which detailed the information that was needed by this office on the revised site plans and in the re~ised Final Environmental Impact statement. A copy of those letters are enclosed for your convenience. Since we have not received the revised site plan and the impact statement, we are writing to ask if your client intends to proceed with this application. If your client does wish to proceed, please send a ten revised copies of the site plan and ten copies of the revised impact statement so that we may proceed. . If we do not receive the revised material within ten business days of your receipt of this letter, we will assume that your client does not wish to continue with the application at this time and we will close the file. Our closing the file will not preclude your client from making a new application in the future. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to call Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner. Sincerely, ~~~/,s Bennett Orlowski, Jr.;ro. Chairman Encis. I f .' .~ --"--.. -. .. . PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS Bennell Orlowski. Jr.. Chairman George Ritchie Latham. Jr. Richard G. Ward Mark S. McDonald Kenneth L. Edwards {~:;~; ~(.. ...~ .'\ ~ ')...~.V .. ::' =.: " .~ ..=""'") ;" -, :.-,,- . ",,-' .: :~ ~ '~"~'IJ ~<~\.:' .... '.' I ..., -'.v... - '-'.,,: ~ ~. ,".1 "'., .. ~l' scon L. HARRIS Supervisor Telephone (516) 765-1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Town Hall. 53095 Main R, P.O. Box 1179 Southold. New York 119, Fax (516) 765-1823 April 30, 1990 Henry Raynor , Raynor-Suter Hardware 320 Love Lane Mattituck, New York 11952 Re: Proposed Site Plan for Marina Bay Club SCTM >> 1000-117-8-18 Dear Mr. Raynor, The Planning Board has reviewed the revised site plan and supporting documentation that were submitted on April 9th and 16th. This material was aLso reviewed by the Building Department. These comments incorporate the review of both departments. This plan shows a less intensive development proposal than the plan that was the subject of the environmental impact statement. The reduction in intensity and the reconfiguration of the marina so that it lies within the New York State grant lines bring the site plan into closer compliance with the findings of the draft environmental impact statement. However, the revised plan does not incorporate sufficient information to enable the Planning Board, and the coordinating agencies, to complete the environmental review.. The following information is needed in order to proceed: 1. Written confirmation is needed from Robert Jewell of the Suffolk County Department of Health Services as to what type of water supply and water treatment system will meet the Health Department's standards. The location and space requirements of these systems must be shown on the site plan. . . ., - -..~ --- ..,~. ,-...... J .~ i .. 2. Drainage and grading plans must include topographical contours within 200' of the property boundaries. 3. Utility plans should show location of electric lines, water supply wells and mains, and the sewage treatment system. 4. A 20' buffer area should be shown, as per Section 100-213 of the Zoning code. 5. Parking spaces must be provided in accordance with the requirements of Section 100-191 A. of the Zoning Code. (The location of handicapped parking spaces must be indicate?-.) Your client may need to include additional information depending on how he choses to respond to the following facts: The proposed restaurant building represents a significant expansion of area over that of the two existing buildings. A Special Exception will have to be obtained from the Zoning Board of Appeals to permit this use. A support and utility building is not listed as a principal Use in the Marine Business district. Therefore this building is an accessory structure. Accessory structures may not be located within the front yard, and may not exceed 18' feet in height. A variance from the Zoning Board of Appeals will have to be obtained in order to site this building as designed. The bUilding permit that reserved the footprint of the boat storage and repair building expired. Therefore, the Town no longer recognizes this footprint as a non-conforming structure. A variance from the Zoning Board of Appeals will have to be obtained in order to locate the bUilding as shown on the site plan. . The location of the fuel tanks is not satisfactory. A tank trailer delivering fuel would block the traffic flow in the traffic circle. And, the distance between the tanks and the fuel pumps on the outermost dock is needlessly long. A better location would be between the travel-lift slip and the southerly property line. The proposed lighting system is not acceptable. the system using lighting fixtures of 18' in height, that also focus the light downward. Redesign or less, , "'.- , - -...--,,- .....~... '--. .' . . tlr) .~. The plan does not indicate whether a public address system will be installed. A drawing of the directory sign was not included on the plan. Section 100-237 (J) of the Zoning code allows a total of 20,000 gallons of petroleum products to be stored within all tanks, pipelines, buildings, structures and accessory equipment designed, used or intended to be used for the storage of gasoline, fuel oil, kerosene etc. within one thousand (10000) feet of tidal waters. The site plan shows the installation of two 10,000 gallon fuel tanks. If these tanks are for boat fuel only, where will the, fuel tanks for the heating system and the generator for the restaurant, support building and boat repair bUilding be located? If you have any questions about the contents of this letter, please contact Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner. Upon receipt of revised plans that address the matters listed in this letter, the Planning Board will proceed with its review. Very Truly Yours, ~~/r;{ Bennett Orlowski, Jr. .~ Chairman VS/vs cc: Victor Lessard, Principal Building Inspector John M. Bredemeyer,III, President, Trustees Gerard P. Goehringher, Chairman, Zoning Board of Appeals Tom Wickham, Chairman, Planning & Zoning Committee Robert Jewell, Suffolk County Department of Health Services Charles Lind, Suffolk County Department of Planning David Morrell, New York State, Department of Environmental Conservation Peter P. Walsh, Coastal Resource Specialist, Department of State , . , -- .~..._- .............~..- \ ee() ..r r'.ANNING BOARD MEMBERS \. dennell Orlowskf. Jr.. Chairman George Ritchie Latham. Jr. Richard G. Ward Mark S. McDonald Kenneth L. Edwards SCOTr L. HARRIS Supervisor Telephone (516) 765-1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Town Hall. 53095 Main Roa. P.O. Box 1179 Southold. New York 11971 Fax (516) 765-1823 J\\ly 30, 1990 Henry E. Raynor, Jr. P.O. Drawer A : Jamesport, New York 11947 Re: Proposed Site Plan for Marina Bay Club, New Suffolk, N.Y. SCTM * 1000-117-8-18 Dear Mr. Raynor: This is to acknowledge receipt of your submission of July 12th (letter and revised site plans). The Board finds that the submission is incomplete. As mentioned in our letter of April 30, 1990, your client must submit written confirmation from the Suffolk County Department of Health Services as to the type of water supply and water treatment system that will be permitted. Further, the location and space requirements, and supporting technical documentation must be included with the site plan so that the environmental review can be completed. The drainage and grading plans should be revised for the amended site plan. At the time that they are revised, the topographical information within 200 feet of the site could be added on. Your observation that the 20 foot buffer is not required in this location is correct. l As noted in our April 30th letter, it is our understanding that the building certificates for the demolished buildings have expired. Further, the size and location of the proposed restaurant suggests that the existing structures will be demolished, not renovated and expanded. Therefore, a Special Exception from the Zoning Board of Appeals will be required. A recent Zoning Board decision regarding boat storage structures means that the two proposed boat storage buildings will be considered as principal uses, thus subject to the .' '. , ".' : . ~ .....:. i-'".,..,.:., .,.... . ;:...~..'~.~')" ..... ...... "~....."",~..........~ <.: . .......... .~,... ( l ~... ,-.., ... .-) .. setback requirements of principal buildings. Variances will be required from the Zoning Board of Appeals. 'Again, it is our understanding that the building permits on the prior boat storage and repair buildings have expired. The proposed lighting system remains unsatisfactory. The overall height of the fixtures should be less than 18 feet, preferably 12 feet. Finally, please indicate the parking for the boat storage buildings. Upon receipt of the information needed to complete the final environmental impact statement, this Board will proceed to review the site plans; and to continue the environmental review in cooperation with the coordinating agencies. At your request, you have been scheduled to meet with the Planning Board at its next public meeting on August 13th. Very Truly Yours, ~~'P'k Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Chairman Enc. cc: Victor Lessard, Principal Building Inspector Gerard P. Goehringer, Chairman, Zoning Board of Appeals John M. Bredemeyer, III, President, Board of Trustees Tom Wickham, Chairman, Planning & Zoning Committee Steve Costa, Director, Wastewater Permit Division, SCDHS Robert Jewelll, Suffolk County Dept. Health Services Arthur Kunz, Suffolk County Planning Department David Morrell, N.Y. Department of Environmental Conservation Peter P. Walsh, Coastal Resource Specialist, Dept. of State , '-.- . .,~:- ~~._~ ..~,- ';-.' :~. , . . '_J"~~' '" 0'. "'~.ii~~ "~,":;',,,'''~'''..~.;~~.:.~;~:'''.<<:,,~-H:,1;i: "it,; ~.~. .:.. . . t . r . \-/ ~UeRU= p~ VIOOl<- 320 Love Lane Mattituck, NY 11952 August 14, 1990 Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman Southold Town Planning Board Main Road Southold, NY 11971 I~"F I 5 t j>.).-' RE: Marina Bay Club site plan Dear Mr. Orlowski: Thank for you and your Board's time in finalizing the necessary elements requested. The following list is inclusive of all elements left outstanding: 1. Approval of water and sewer systems from the Suffolk County Department of Health Services. 2. Drainage grading plans to be revised reflecting changes on amended site plan already submitted. 3. Restaurant construction is both renovation and expansion to existing building. This can be completed. subject to the Building Inspector's decision, without Zoning Board of Appeals approvals. 4. Two boat storage buildings, are a primary use in MMII zone. subiect to permit by Buildlinq Inspector and adherences to setback requlations. 5. Street light elevations set at 12 feet to show on site only. 6. There will be no parking provision for boat storage area only. I am forwardinq this letter to completely clarify those elements discussed at your meetinq. Sincerely. ~ ~~R~Jr. ' her:ml CC: Richard Carr PLANNING BOARD .. 24 A~~, 1990 ( R-40 on this parcel, yes, only because it makes some sense to extend the zone. Mr. Orlowski: Am I to understand that you are asking us to review this a little further before we make a recommendation to the Town Board? We will re-review it. SETTING OF NEXT PLANNING BOARD MEETING Mr. Orlowski: Board to set Monday, September 10, 1990 at 7:30 p.m. at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold as the time and place for the next regular Planning Board meeting. Mr. Latham: So moved. Mr. McDonald: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. McDonald, Mr. Latham, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. **************************************** ( Mr. Orlowski: Does anybody have any other questions or comments for the board? l Mr. Raynor: I just want to basically bring the board up to date on Marina Bay Club in New Suffolk. I am referencing the board's letter of July 30th. We are presently working with Bob (inaudible) on the water supply and septic systems for the County. We would hope to have a determination from a meeting on the 28th of this month in regard to septics and we are still exploring several alternatives to water supply on the site. With regard to revisions on the site plan requested by Planning staff we have incorporated those revisions regarding turnarounds, the size of the tanks and we're presently revising both the drainage plans and the grading plans to reflect those requests of the board. The board notes on their April 30th letter that the certificate to demolish the buildings expired and we received no notification from the Building Department to that effect. Also, the future size and location of the proposed restaurant suggests the existing structure will be demolished and that is not so. There will be a renovation and expansion of this project. The board will note in my letter of the 9th why it was incorporated on -there and the revised site plans that are in your office also reflect the renovation. As a result of a redesignation for the boat storage structures to the proposal of being primary use in the zone district. The setbacks would be required and those would be adhered to thus eliminating the question to reside to variances on those two buildings. The question with regard to the building permits on both the storage ( ( l ", ~" .- ", , PLANNING BOARD .. A" 13 , 1990 25 .. and repairs again redundant but it is in there and again I've received no notification. The proposed lighting system, there has been a question with regard to the street lamp which is situated at the intersection of Main Street and First Street on the southeast corner. Originally we had it at an elevation of twenty feet, we requested by the board eighteen feet, we revised the plan to eighteen feet and you now request that you revise and make it twelve feet so we will make it twelve feet. As to the question concerning the parking and the facilities concerning the boat storage building, very simply there will be none as so stated on the plan instead of storage. It does not require any under the code, nor do we anticipate traffic in and out of a sealed building during the winter. This pretty much alienates what is transpired and if there are any other additional elements that should be addressed I would very much like the board's input tonight because we are trying to finalize this and coordinate this with both Federal, State and County. I hope this brings everybody up to speed a little bit as to where we are. Mr. Orlowski: O.K., does the board have any questions for Mr. Raynor while he is here? Board: No questions. **************************************** Mr. David Cross: In reference to James E. Cross and David Cross subdivision on the question of the right-of-way and construction of the right-of-way from what presently exists. Does anyone there have maps of this? That's O.K., I'm going to bring this one up. Basically, what's existing now is within the fifty foot lane on the right-of-way. Wagon Wheel Lane as it exists now passing by one property and going down into a minor subdivision. At present the right-of-way for Ralph Tuthill, which is the furtherest lot, passes through a present piece of land which was pieced off by James Cross. The right-of-way would be set aside to allow access to his property and future properties on a set aside piece. In the original drawing which was made and suggested by the town is a fifty foot incorponated in a twenty foot right-of-way of actual road passing down into a cul-de-sac. A suggestion was made two ways for this minor subdivision to go through e~ther to have the road surveyed by a surveyor but my suggestion was knowing the property and knowing the woods area since there is a farm near by we have chain saws, we have bucket loaders, we have all the equipment. We could build the road ourselves. Looking at the property this Sunday, I did some taping off and there is a lot, fifty or more, of very, very large trees in which if they were perfectly straight drawn on our plan a road was built a lot of these would be lost. If it could be gently meandered through the woods a lot of this cutting could be avoided and create a very nice driveway Which incorporates twenty foot or better access to both lots. ",,- ~-':i'..,_~., '. j ,.,,:e. . . . . PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS Bennett Orlowski. Jr., Chairman George Ritchie Latham, Jr. Richard G. Ward Mark S. McDonald Kenneth L. Edwards SCOlT L. HARRIS Supervisor Telephone (516) 765-1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 Fax (516) 765-1823 A'lgUst 2, 1990 Joseph Fenton The New Suf~olk Committee 300 Jackson Street New Suffolk, New York 11956 Dear Mr. Fenton: Thank you for your letter of May 7, 1990, in which you listed some concerns of The New Suffolk Committee regarding the revised site plan for the Marina Bay Club. As you will note in the enclosed letter of July 30th, the Planning Board has indicated to the applicant that there are certain, pertinent issues that must be resolved before we can proceed with finishing the environmental review process. Until this stage of the review is satisfactorily completed, and the appropriate Special Exception permits and variances are obtained from the Zoning Board of Appeals, the Planning Board will be unable to proceed with the application as it now stands. Further, in answer to your question about the significance of the term "Phase I" on the latest revised site plan, there has been no discussion of this with the applicant because the Board is looking at the environmental impacts of the entire project. Also, since the applicant has not submitted all the information requested in the April 30th letter, we cannot proceed with this review. I hope this answers your questions and concerns. Very Truly Yours, ~~:9r.{;. Bennett Or lowski , Jr. I (I :s Chairman Enc. . l . . ('_ANNING BOARD MEMBERS dennell Orlowski; Jr.. Chairman George Ritchie Latham. Jr. Richard G. Ward Mark S. McDonald Kenneth L. Edwards scon L. HARRIS Supervisor Telephone (516) 765-1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Town Hall. 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold. New York 11971 Fax (516) 765-1823 July 30, 1990 Henry E. Raynor, Jr. P.O. Drawer A Jamesport, New York 11947 Re: Proposed Site Plan for Marina Bay Club, New Suffolk, N.Y. SCTM * 1000-117-8-18 Dear Mr. Raynor: This is to acknowledge receipt of your submission of July 12th (letter and revised site plans). The Board finds that the submission is incomplete. As mentioned in our letter of April 30, 1990, your client must submit written confirmation from the Suffolk County Department of Health Services as to the type of water supply and water treatment system that will be permitted. Further, the location and space requirements, and supporting technical documentation must be included with the site plan so that the environmental review can be completed. The drainage and grading plans should be revised for the amended site plan. At the time that they are revised, the topographical information within 200 feet of the site could be added on. Your observation that the 20 foot buffer is not required in this location is correct. l As noted in our April 30th letter, it is our understanding that the building certificates for the demolished buildings have expired. Further, the size and location of the proposed restaurant suggests that the existing structures will be demolished, not renovated and expanded. Therefore, a Special Exception from the Zoning Board of Appeals will be required. A recent Zoning Board decision regarding boat storage structures means that the two proposed boat storage buildings will be considered as principal uses, thus subject to the , ,~~.,.... .;,:..,,,,, . , .. ( setback requirements of principal buildings. Variances will be required from the Zoning Board of Appeals. 'Again, it is our understanding that the building permits on the prior boat storage and repair buildings have expired. The proposed lighting system remains unsatisfactory. The overall height of the fixtures should be less than 18 feet, preferably 12 feet. Finally, please indicate the parking for the boat storage buildings. Upon receipt of the information needed to complete the final environmental impact statement, this Board will proceed to review the site plans; and to continue the environmental review in cooperation with the coordinating agencies. At your request, you have been scheduled to meet with the Planning Board at its next public meeting on August 13th. Very Truly Yours, ~~~f?#s- Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Chairman Enc. cc: Victor Lessard, Principal Building Inspector Gerard P. Goehringer, Chairman, Zoning Board of Appeals John M. Bredemeyer, III, President, Board of Trustees Tom Wickham, Chairman, Planning & Zoning Committee Steve Costa, Director, Wastewater Permit Division, SCDHS Robert Jewelll, Suffolk County Dept. Health Services Arthur Kunz, Suffolk County Planning Department David Morrell, N.Y. Department of Environmental Conservation Peter P. Walsh, Coastal Resource Specialist, Dept. of State , l -:,~_. ..,.i,~~. ",,<\,,~<~~';:~;,:\4~~~'~t.:,~,~;il~;,f;i.:,, . . . . ~ PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS Bennell Orlowski, Jr.. Chairman George Ritchie Latham, Jr. Richard G. Ward Mark S. McDonald Kenneth L. Edwards SCOTI L. HARRIS Supervisor Telephone (516) 765-1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York I 197 I Fax (516) 765-1823 July 30, 1990 Henry E. Raynor, Jr. P.O. Drawer A Jamesport, New York 1i947 Re: Proposed Site Plan for Marina Bay Club, New Suffolk, N.Y. SCTM * 1000-117-8-18 Dear Mr. Raynor: This is to acknowledge receipt of your submission of July 12th (letter and revised site plans). The Board finds that the submission is incomplete. As mentioned in our letter of April 30, 1990, your client must submit written confirmation from the Suffolk County Department of Health Services as to the type of water supply and water treatment system that will be permitted. Further, the location and space requirements, and supporting technical documentation must be included with the site plan so that the environmental review can be completed. The drainage and grading plans should be revised for the amended site plan. At the time that they are revised, the topographical information within 200 feet of the site could be added on. Your observation that the 20 foot buffer is not required in this location is correct. As noted in our April 30th letter, it is our understanding that the building certificates for the demolished buildings have expired. Further, the size and location of the proposed restaurant suggests that the existing structures will be demolished, not renovated and expanded. Therefore, a Special Exception from the Zoning Board of Appeals will be required. A recent Zoning Board decision regarding boat storage structures means that the two proposed boat storage buildings will.be considered as principal uses, thus subject to the . . . . setback requirements of principal buildings. Variances will be required from the Zoning Board of Appeals. Again, it is our understanding that the building permits on the prior boat storage and repair buildings have expired. The proposed lighting system remains unsatisfactory. The overall height of the fixtures should be less than 18 feet, preferably 12 feet. Finally, please indicate the parking for the boat storage buildings. Upon receipt of the information needed to complete the final environmental impact statement, this Board will proceed to review the site plans, and to continue the environmental review in cooperation with the coordinating agencies. At your request, you have been scheduled to meet with the Planning Board at its next public meeting on August 13th. Very Truly Yours, ~~~f?/v~ Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Chairman Ene. cc: Victor Lessard, Principal Building Inspector Gerard P. Goehringer, Chairman, Zoning Board of Appeals John M. Bredemeyer, III, President, Board of Trustees Tom Wickham, Chairman, Planning & Zoning Conunittee Steve Costa, Director, Wastewater Permit Division, SCDHS Robert Jewelll, Suffolk County Dept. Health Services Arthur Kunz, Suffolk County Planning Department David Morrell, N.Y. Department of Environmental Conservation Peter P. Walsh, Coastal Resource Specialist, Dept. of State ''; e(. e~ . P. O. Drawer A Jamesport, NY 11947 July 9, 1990 "51./ bFi L..E:" Pe:> {"5 . Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman Southold Town Planning Board Main Road Southold, NY 11971 RE: Marina Bay Club Site Plan Dear Mr. Orlowski: Pursuant to your letter of April 30, 1990, we hereby submit the fOllowing data: After several meetings with Mr. Robert Jewell of the Suffolk County Department of Health Services, we have developed a "RO" system as one alternative to the water consumption needs of this project. This will meet Suffolk County Department of Health Service standards in both design and capacity. I will forward under separate cover a letter designating such from the Department of Health Services at which time we would decide to this alternative. With regard to the drainage and grading plans including topographical information surrounding the site, this is found in the second supplement submitted by J.A.C. Planning. The final utility plans, i.e. water supply, mains, sewerage treatment, will be forthcoming pursuant to some final determinations by the Department of Health Services. With regard to the twenty (20) foot buffer area, please note Section 100-213 is for residential use. The only adjoining parcels are not of that zone, they are HB and MMII. Please note that parking on the enclosed plan has been scaled to town specifications and until final construction plans are drawn with regard to the renovation of the restaurant, we cannot locate the handicapped spaces. I have followed up with Mr. Victor Lessard. I assume you have a copy of his letter dated June 21, 1990, if not; I have enclosed a copy of same. The proposed restaurant, although significant expansion is included, will not be a demolition project but rather a renovation and expansion. It is my understanding from rulings the Building Department has received from all agencies involved, this will not constitute a special exception use=,-"" H i~. ~.... .... lD": I!, , , L..--...._~_. ,\\1 " 1: . . LL~~ 1 . - . : , , -~ ..~-... L.__.. -.--.-- ,.-'- .(9 ., Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman Southold Town Planning Board July 9, 1990 Page 2 The utility building noted has been changed to reflect a boat storage and repaif facility of the same dimensions. Please note this is a permitted use, not an accessory use, in the district and should not require action by the Zoning Board of Appeals. It is my understanding a precedent has been set with regard to this use by the Port of Egypt application. We will assert and request building permits on the basis of pre-existing foot prints upon which we have kept a building certificate after the demolition of the south storage building and after the hurricane demolished the north buliding. As it is noted in your letter of April 30th, the fuel tanks are not satisfactory. We have re-evaluated and amended the site plan and located same to the south easterly corner allowing fuel trucks ingress and egress in a more satisfactory fashion. Pursuant to Section 100-237 (j) we have reduced the storage capacity of the two 10,000 gallon fuel tanks to a capacity of two 8,000 gallon fuel tanks. It is also noted that the lighting system is not acceptable. Please note we have amended same stating the light post will be shielded so the field of illumination will be contained on site. I would like a review by your Board on the enclosed site plan, fully aware that the Suffolk County Department of Heatlh Services criteria and ancilliary facilities have not been answered. Should you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. ti~~o~ Jr. HER:ml Ene. CC: Southold Town Southold Town Southold Town Richard Carr McGuire Group, Inc. J.A.C. Planning Niego Associates B. Laing Associates Building Department - Victor Trustees zoning Board of Appeals Lessard .,:. ;--;;;"_.t;" '.;::i.' "~': -" .1 JJ~.J.2...!.~..:' , . ,"-' " ',-" '.>.. , ~ ...........-:-.. :t.,.. ,-'-~'.... e(e .:.J.....lOl-Jf...C.. , , VICTOf{ LESSARD PRINCIPAL BUILDING INSPECTOR (516) 765-1802 FAX(516) 765-1823 r:.c:L:z::-" . - "J' '" -.,...:. -~.. j' ....... ,~'.I" "". e '. P8 Si1\ ('f? Town Hall. 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 SOllthold, New York 11971 OFFICE OF BUILDING INSPECTOR TOWN OF SOUTHOLD June 21, 1990 Henry E. Raynor, Jr Drawer A Jamesport, NY 11947 Re: Marina Bay Club Dear Mr. Raynor: Responding to your inquiry of the proposed and existing structures at the site of the Marina Bay Club project: 1. The proposed storage/repair structure is a permitted use. The set-backs are governed by bulk & parking for principal use or existing footprint for replacement, whichever pertains. 2. The two-story structure, to be used as a support utility, would be considered an accessory and should be addressed by the Zoning Board of Appeals as such. 3. The restaurant was moved by permit in 1963. The removal of the existing restaurant, to one of three times the size, would require a special exception in this M-II zone. Trusting this helps to clear up your questions on this proposed site plan, I remain Very truly yours, 't~ d~~ VGL:lmr Victor G. Lessard Principal Building Inspector , - - '~"'-... 1m' . ~ @J~..n W(l:~ . \; . , ! I II . ^ 2 ...-) :']'1 " . r "L~ - .' cc: Planning Board Zoning Board of Appeals .,..-- f . . ~ '.----- -,..-. .~, . . PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS Bennell Orlowski. k. Chairman George Ritchie Latham. Jr. Richard G. Ward Mark S. McDonald Kenneth L. Edwards .:::::.,.::- 'l~( '~:.~~ ",' j ... .', " .. ..-. ::;:; '''\''.' '. '--8 \:; .<,', ',." ,~:' t;.. ~.~;:) f ; ,.....~j:. .'. "'1-'~ . .,., . '."n ~\.~. '~'':'_:.;/ -"'" ,..":....1 -.. ' -. .on. . SCOTT L. HARRIS Supervisor Telephone (516) 765-1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Town Hall. 53095 Main Roo. P.O. Box 1179 Soulhold. New York 1197 J Fax (516) 765-1823 April 30, 1990 Henry Raynor Raynor-Suter Hardware 320 Love Lane Mattituck, New York 11952 Re: Proposed Site Plan for Marina Bay Club SCTM * 1000-117-8-18 Dear Mr. Raynor, The Planning Board has reviewed the revised site plan and supporting documentation that were submitted on April 9th and 16th. This material was al$o reviewed by the Building Department. These comments incorporate the review of both departments. This plan shows a less intensive development proposal than the plan that was the subject of the environmental impact statement. The reduction in intensity and the reconfiguration of the marina so that it lies within the New York State grant lines bring the site plan into closer compliance with the findings of the draft environmental impact statement. However, the revised plan does not incorporate sufficient information to enable the Planning Board, and the coordinating agencies, to complete the environmental review. The following information is needed in order to proceed: 1. Written confirmation is needed from Robert Jewell of the Suffolk County Department of Health Services as to what type of water supply and water treatment system will meet the Health Department's standards. The location and space requirements of these systems must be shown on the site plan. . ., ~ -...-: #- """.".. ,_.....-.. J .~ .- 2. Drainage and grading plans must include topographical contours within 200' of the property boundaries. 3. Utility plans should show location of electric lines, water supply wells and mains, and the sewage treatment system. 4. A 20' buffer area should be shown, as per Section 100-213 of the Zoning code. 5. Parking spaces must be provided in accordance with the requirements of Section 100-191 A. of the Zoning Code. (The location of handicapped parking spaces must be indicated.) Your client may need to include additional information depending on how he choses to respond to the following facts: The proposed restaurant building represents a significant expansion of area over that of the two existing buildings. A Special Exception will have to be obtained from the Zoning Board of Appeals to permit this use. A support and utility building is not listed as a principal use in the Marine Business district. Therefore this building is an accessory structure. Accessory structures may not be located within the front yard, and may not exceed 18' feet in height. A variance from the Zoning Board of Appeals will have to be obtained in order to site this building as designed. The building permit that reserved the footprint of the boat storage and repair building expired. Therefore, the Town no longer recognizes this footprint as a non-conforming structure. A variance from the Zoning Board of Appeals will have to be obtained in order to locate the building as shown on the site plan. The location of the fuel tanks is not satisfactory. A tank trailer delivering fuel would block the traffic flow in the traffic circle. And, the distance between the tanks and the fuel pumps on the outermost dock is needlessly long. A better location would be between the travel-lift slip and the southerly property line. The proposed lighting system is not acceptable. the system using lighting fixtures of 18' in height, that also focus the light downward. Redesign or less, , - .....---- -.',>'"., .' .*' .- The plan does not indicate whether a public address system will be installed. A drawing of the directory sign was not included on the plan. Section 100-237 (J) of the Zoning code allows a total of 20,000 gallons of petroleum products to be stored within all tanks, pipelines, buildings, structures and accessory equipment designed, used or intended to be used for the storage of gasoline, fuel oil, kerosene etc. within one thousand (10000) feet of tidal waters. The site plan shows the installation of two 10,000 gallon fuel tanks. If these tanks are for boat fuel only, where will the, fuel tanks for the heating system and the generator for the restaurant, support building and boat repair building be located? If you have any questions about the contents of this letter, please contact Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner. Upon receipt of revised plans that address the matters listed in this letter, the Planning Board will proceed with its review. Very Truly Yours, ~~/r;{ Bennett Orlowski, Jr. ~ Chairman VS/vs cc: Victor Lessard, Principal Building Inspector John M. Bredemeyer,III, President, Trustees Gerard P. Goehringher, Chairman, Zoning Board of Appeals Tom Wickham, Chairman, Planning & Zoning Committee Robert Jewell, Suffolk County Department of Health Services Charles Lind, Suffolk County Department of Planning David Morrell, New York State, Department of Environmental Conservation Peter P. Walsh, Coastal Resource Specialist, Department of State , . , - -.~..._- ,..........,...-,. . 1 .. P. O. Drawer A Jamesport, NY 11947 July 9, 1990 'S~ eF/l..I:" Pf:> ";'5 . Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman Southold Town Planning Board Main Road Southold, NY 11971 RE: Marina Bay Club Site Plan Dear Mr. Orlowski: Pursuant to your letter of April 30, 1990, we hereby submit the following data: After several meetings with Mr. Robert Jewell of the Suffolk County Department of Health Services, we have developed a "RO" system as one alternative to the water consumption needs of this project. This will meet Suffolk County Department of Health Service standards in both design and capacity. I will forward under separate cover a letter designating such from the Department of Health Services at which time we would decide to this alternative. With regard to the drainage and grading plans including topographical information surrounding the site, this is found in the second supplement submitted by J.A.C. Planning. The final utility plans, i.e. water supply, mains, sewerage treatment, will be forthcoming pursuant to some final determinations by the Department of Health Services. With regard to the twenty (20) foot buffer area, please note Section 100-213 is for residential use. The only adjoining parcels are not of that zone, they are HB and MMII. Please note that parking on the enclosed plan has been scaled to town specifications and until final construction plans are drawn with regard to the renovation of the restaurant, we cannot locate the handicapped spaces. I have followed up with Mr. Victor Lessard. I assume you have a copy of his letter dated June 21, 1990, if not; I have enclosed a copy of same. The proposed restaurant, although significant expansion is included, will not be a demolition project but rather a renovation and expansion. It is my understanding from rulings the Building Department has received from all agencies involved, this will not constitute a special exception uS~..lli fi", (n'. .. II~ir~7'.. IWhtJUL I 2 , t t... . ) .. Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman Southold Town Planning Board July 9, 1990 Page 2 The utility building noted has been changed to reflect a boat storage and repaif facility of the same dimensions. Please note this is a permitted use, not an accessory use, in the district and should not require action by the Zoning Board of Appeals. It is my understanding a precedent has been set with regard to this use by the Port of Egypt application. We will assert and request building permits on the basis of pre-existing foot prints upon which we have kept a building certificate after the demolition of the south storage building and after the hurricane demolished the north buliding. As it is noted in your letter of April 30th, the fuel tanks are not satisfactory. We have re-evaluated and amended the site plan and located same to the south easterly corner allowing fuel trucks ingress and egress in a more satisfactory fashion. Pursuant to Section 100-237 (j) we have reduced the storage capacity of the two 10,000 gallon fuel tanks to a capacity of two 8,000 gallon fuel tanks. It is also noted that the lighting system is not acceptable. Please note we have amended same stating the light post will be shielded so the field of illumination will be contained on site. I would like a review by your Board on the enclosed site plan, fully aware that the Suffolk County Department of Heatlh Services criteria and ancilliary facilities have not been answered. Should you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Sincere~~ . _,..~ ~~~or, Jr. HER:ml Ene. CC: Southold Town Southold Town Southold Town Richard Carr McGuire Group, Inc. J.A.C. Planning Niego Associates B. Laing Associates Building Department - Victor Trustees Zoning Board of Appeals Lessard r? li\....) f.' l'~ UJ ('" ,. r"'""'~"''''-''-_.'''' " JUL I 2 , . -e $l-leFIU:: Pe :Si1\"~ - ~ .VICTO~ LESSARD PRINCIPAL BUILDING INSPECTOR (516) 165-1802 FAX (516) 165-1823 Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southo1d, New York 11971 OFFICE OF BUILDING INSPECTOR TOWN OF SOUTHOLD June 21, 1990 Henry E. Raynor, Jr Drawer A Jamesport, NY 11947 Re: Marina Bay Club Dear Mr. Raynor: Responding to your inquiry of the proposed and existing structures at the site of the Marina Bay Club project: 1. The proposed storage/repair structure is a permitted use. The set-backs are governed by bulk & parking for principal use or existing footprint for replacement, whichever pertains. 2. The two-story structure, to be used as a support utility, would be considered an accessory and should be addressed by the Zoning Board of Appeals as such. 3. The restaurant was moved by permit in 1963. The removal of the existing restaurant, to one of three times the size, would require a special exception in this M-II zone. Trusting this helps to clear up your questions on this proposed site plan, I remain Very truly yours, '{~~ d~~ VGL:lmr Victor G. Lessard Principal Building Inspector cc: rm.. rn @ rn D.JL1< t; \ r--- n ' ,liu.. JUN 2 2 1990 , Zoning Board of Appeals . ~ . . 'S4BFI LE:" Pe:. 'l/S JOSEI>H FENTON ATTORNEY AT L.AW 300 .JACKSON STREET NEW SUFFOLK, N. Y. 11956 (5 I S) 73485099 FAX: (1518) 73<4-5138 Planning Board Town of Southold Main Road Southold, N.Y. 11971 May 7, 1990 Re; Marina Bay Club New Suffolk SCTM 117-8-18 Gentlemen: The New Suffolk Committee, whose membere are enumerated below, which has been monitoring this proposed project on behalf of the community, h~8 reviewed the applicant's most recent submission and revised site plan. As we indicated at the public hearing, the community's greateet. concern has been the size of the project and the resultant adverse impact on our quality of life because of traffic, etQ. We are therefore pleased to note that the project has been scaled down somewhat, and that the revised plan calls for adherence to the easternmost N.Y. State Grant line and a re- duction in slips from lrT to 100. We have always indicated the community's support for the marina- restaurant- post office use that has existed here for most of the last century and a half. .1Iile we note a reduction of the proposed restaurant size froa 300 to 225 and welcome it, we would like to call your attention to the fact that 75 of the prior llite plan's 300 seata were of the temporary outside patio variety, now eliminated, so that the actual reduction in restaurant seats has been nil. We welcome and concur in a number of observatione and positions made in your April 30, 1990 letter to the applicant's agent, such as with respect to lighting, and we respectfully reserve further comment until such time as applications are made for variances or special exceptions which may be necessary. We congratulate your efforts on behalf of the public. While we believe the project warrants some further shrinking, we would like to go on record as having reacted positively to this latest plan, particularly the direction taken by the applicant in reducing the size of the. project toward one more in keeping with that of the community. We note that the latest plan refers to the project as phase 1. We were under the impression that both originally proposed phases had been com- bined. Perhaps this can be clarified. ~~~~c~veihahan, aBi~M i~gR_~e~tftn it~MIJ;e:r :~~L;m;~, rnJ!..Jffi UJJIJ Jtfq;ntbCoutgOing ~_ T m> L--.......... SG.r, , t...........-.""".~..",. ". PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS Bennell Orlowski, Jr., Chairman George Ritchie Latham, Jr. Richard G. Ward . Mark S. McDonald Kenneth L. Edwards . , t .' . . SCOTI L. HARRIS Supervisor Telephone (516) 765-1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Town Hall, 53095 Main Roa' P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 Fax (516) 765-1823 April 30, 1990 Henry Raynor Raynor-Suter Hardware 320 Love Lane Mattituck, New York 11952 Re: Proposed Site Plan for Marina Bay Club SCTM * 1000-117-8-18 Dear Mr. Raynor, The Planning Board has reviewed the revised site plan and supporting documentation that were submitted on April 9th and 16th. This material was al$o reviewed by the Building Department. These comments incorporate the review of both departments. This plan shows a less intensive development proposal than the plan that was the subject of the environmental impact statement. The reduction in intensity and the reconfiguration of the marina so that it lies within the New York State grant lines bring the site plan into closer compliance with the findings of the draft environmental impact statement. However, the revised plan does not incorporate sufficient information to enable the Planning Board, and the coordinating agencies, to complete the environmental review. The following information is needed in order to proceed: 1. Written confirmation is needed from Robert Jewell of the Suffolk County Department of Health Services as to what type of water supply and water treatment system will meet the Health Department's standards. The location and space requirements of these systems must be shown on the site plan. . . ~ . . 2. Drainage and grading plans must include topographical contours within 200' of the property boundaries. 3. Utility plans should show location of electric lines, water supply wells and mains, and the sewage treatment system. 4. A 20' buffer area should be shown, as per Section 100-213 of the Zoning code. 5. Parking spaces must be provided in accordance with the requirements of Section 100-191 A. of the Zoning Code. (The location of handicapped parking spaces must be indicated.) Your client may need to include additional information depending on how he choses to respond to the following facts: The proposed restaurant building represents a significant expansion of area over that of the two existing buildings. A Special Exception will have to be obtained from the Zoning Board of Appeals to permit this use. A support and utility building is not listed as a principal use in the Marine Business district. Therefore this building is an accessory structure. Accessory structures may not be located within the front yard, and may not exceed 18' feet in height. A variance from the Zoning Board of Appeals will have to be obtained in order to site this building as designed. The building permit that reserved the footprint of the boat storage and repair building expired. Therefore, the Town no longer recognizes this footprint as a non-conforming structure. A variance from the Zoning Board of Appeals will have to be obtained in order to locate the building as shown on the site plan. The location of the fuel tanks is not satisfactory. A tank trailer delivering fuel would block the traffic flow in the traffic circle. And, the distance between the tanks and the fuel pumps on the outermost dock is needlessly long. A better location would be between the travel-lift slip and the southerly property line. The proposed lighting system is not acceptable. the system using lighting fixtures of 18' in height, that also focus the light downward. Redesign or less, . . . . The plan does not indicate whether a public address system will be installed. A drawing of the directory sign was not included on the plan. Section 100-237 (J) of the Zoning code allows a total of 20,000 gallons of petroleum products to be stored within all tanks, pipelines, buildings, structures and accessory equipment designed, used or intended to be used for the storage of gasoline, fuel oil, kerosene etc. within one thousand (10000) feet of tidal waters. The site plan shows the installation of two 10,000 gallon fuel tanks. If these tanks are for boat fuel only, where will the fuel tanks for the heating system and the generator for the restaurant, support building and boat repair building be located? If you have any questions about the contents of this letter, please contact Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner. Upon receipt of revised plans that address the matters listed in this letter, the Planning Board will proceed with its review. Very Truly Yours, ~~/r;0 Bennett Orlowski, Jr. ~ Chairman VS/vs cc: Victor Lessard, Principal Building Inspector John M. Bredemeyer, III , President, Trustees Gerard P. Goehringher, Chairman, Zoning Board of Appeals Tom Wickham, Chairman, Planning & Zoning Committee Robert Jewell, Suffolk County Department of Health Services Charles Lind, Suffolk County Department of Planning David Morrell, New York State, Department of Environmental Conservation Peter P. Walsh, Coastal Resource Specialist, Department of State - . -- S< e::F1 u:: .-- .. ~ COECLES HARBOR MARINA & BOATYLY'RD INC. ~ ~ !l~~4,t1 John H. Needham . f'eter J. Needham ~".,.J -UAJAP April 17, 1990 Bennett Orlowski Chairman Southold Town Planning Board - Town Hall Main Road Southold, N.Y. 11971 Mr. Orlowski, Henry Raynor suggested I send you my review of the proposed redevelop- ment of North Fork Shipyard. The New Suffolk Civic Association had asked me to make recommendations regarding the project. Although this paper may not represent the views of the various groups I participate in, my credentials include: - Owner/operator of the Coecles Harbor Marina & Boatyard on Shelter Island for seventeen (17) years. - President, Association of Marine Industries - Member, Peconic Bay Task Force - Board member, Save the Bays - Member, Long Island Sound Study Citizens Advisory Committee Please feel free to call me if you have any questions regarding my suggestions. Sincerely, ?J~ Peter J. Needham Vice-President " n PJN/rws APe / 8 1990 HUDSON AVENUE' SHELTER ISLAND. NEW YORK 11964 . (516) 749-0700 MEMBER: AMERICAN BOAT & YACHT COUNCil. AMERICAN BOAT BUIlOERS & REPAIRERS ASSOC.. INO. ... . - .. COECLES HARBOR MARINA & BOATYARD INC. ~ John H. Needham . Peler J. Needham Ap...il 06, 1990 Linda Fletche... New Suffolk Civic Association P.O. Box 642 New Suffolk, N.Y. 11956 Dea... Linda, I have ca...efully studied the No...th Fo...k Shipya...d site plan, app...aisal, and p...elimina...y cost estimate you p...ovided, and ...eviewed the mate...ial with seve...al of my colleagues. Please bea... in mind that these views are st...ictly my opinion using knowledge gained as the owne.../ope...ato... of the Coecles Ha...bo... Ma...ina on Shelte... Island, and in no way ...eflect the viewpoints of the Association of Ma...ine Indust...ies 0... any othe... o...ganization I am affiliated with. That being said I offe... you the following obse...vations. 1.) Site Location. Envi...onmentally, this is an ideal location fo... a ma...ina. It"s p...oximity to open wate... and mo...e than adequate depth ought to affo...d good flushing action fo... the basin and ...equi...e minimal maintenance dredging. Redevelopment of this site might relieve expansion p...essu...es placed on the a...eas other marinas for slip availability. As you may well know the...e are marinas on the North & South Fo...ks that a...e not nea...ly so well situated, and their expansion, due to inc...easing demand fo... slip space might place an undue burden on some of the mo...e poo...ly flushed c...eeks and bays which a...e mo...e envi...onmentally sensitive. Unfo...tunately, such an ideal, open location has its p...ice fo... the operato.... Most assuredly some form of b...eakwater or wave attenuato... will be necessa...y to p...otect the basin f...om the Southeast fetch. This in turn drives up the cost of construction substantially while affording no ...ealized income f...om such an investment. Envi...onmentally sound vs. economic feasibility, each has me...its, both have a p...ice. As fa... as the upland a...ea is conce...ned, in its p...esent fo...m due to dete...io...ation, it det...acts fr~ tn& wate...front community. It is also non-conducive t~ att...acting 0... se...ving the type of custome... tha~ i. ...equi...ed fo... a first class operation. Being that t~PR 1 81990 ~', .-" '.- HUDSON AVENUE. SHELTER ISLAND' NEW YORK 11964 . (516)749-070Q MEMBER: AMERICAN BOAT & YACHT COUNCIL' AMERICAN BOAT BULDERS & REPAIRERS ASSOC'.:1I'lC. , . . . '. I i .. parcel forms a buffer zone between the residential community and the waterways, I would think it most appropriate to reconstruct the current property to include updated facilities for boat storage and handling, outbuildings for the marina, and proper landscaping techniques such as screening to minimize possible adverse visual impacts. 2.) Boatvard DDeraticns: The magnitude and cost of this project necessitates a well-run, service oriented repair facility to carry costs through the income flucuations of this type of seasonal business venture. Upland areas must be maximized for winter boat storage as well as provide adequate area for summer operations which include haulouts, blocking and repairs. Being that there is a water enhanced use on premises (restaurant) it is imperative that areas be set aside for boatyard purposes while not detracting from the overall appeal of the facility. Although zoning requirements dictate the number of parking spaces for both the restaurant and the marina, some leniency must be afforded regarding boat storage on the parking area during the off-season. Without the revenue generated from the available storage space it will become necessary for the operator to intensify the summer portion of the business through dockage rentals, fuel sales and a large transient population. There appears to be adequate upland area for winter operations as long as care is taken during the planning process. As previously mentioned, there are tradeoffs to be realized if portions of available space are set aside for aesthetic reasons alone. Their placement must be well arranged so as to enhance the property without intruding unnecessarily on workable areas. 3.) Restaurant: Although I am not familiar with restaurant operations, it is quite apparent that the current facilities need rejuvenation. New York State Coastal Policy encourages uses which are enhanced by a waterfront location. These water-enhanced uses require that the profitability and/or enjoyment level of the users would increase significantly if the use were adjacent to, or had visual access to, the waterfront. A restaurant which takes advantage of a waterfront view is an example of a water-enhanced use and ties in well with the proposed facility. 4.) l'Iarina Facilitv: As previoLlsly mentioned, due ',t!CI,t'h... 'lack of available dock space in the area, redevelo~~nt of thi s parti cuI ar si te may well decrease the ex~~h..i oWRr1.tk\990 at other Peconic Bay marinas which might not ltlf'$ituated y , . " . j , .. , , in such an ideal location. On this premise alone it would seem to me that groups such as the Peconic Bay Task Force and Save The Bays should actively advocate maximizing available surface waters for dockage as long as reasonable care is taken in daily operations and in adhering to current Federal regulations regarding boater pollution. Due to the magnitude and cost of this project I am convinced that the actual design and construction plans for the dock facility are best left to the architectural and engineering firms hired by the principal. Using standards for marina design as guidelines, these professionals have more expertise in assessing the location, market parameters and current regulations as far as dockage & basin layout are concerned. Although a thorough market analysis would be required to accurately determine the number of slips needed to turn a profit at this facility, a general "rule of thumb" used in the industry today is that a new marina facility should have between 150 - 200 slips if it is to be economically viable. Obviously, there might be exceptions to this rule. Lacking any hard market data, it seems that the number of slips proposed is rather low. 5.) Reverse Osmosis Desalination CRO): Having passed this issue by several members of the scientific community and having a degree in marine biology myself I can assure you that the presence of a RO plant on this particular body of water would have no environmental impact given the immense dilution capabilities of the waterbody. Although the expense of these units prohibits their use in most instances I feel it is a viable alternative if adequate domestic water is unavailable. 6.) Lor::al Waterfront Revitalization Program CLWRP): The objectives of the LWRP are to identify, protect, restore and rebuild deteriorated and under-utilized waterfront dependent businesses. This is an effort to provide continued public access to the waterways rather than having the existing use turned into a residentially developed area that would restrict access to those few who could afford waterfront property. As is so prevalent on the Peconic Bay, more and more shorefront is being developed for residential purposes, lessening the non- waterfront homeowners accessibility to this resource. As a marina, this property could provide water asee..s to 70 to 100 f ami 1 i es (assumi ng one f ami 1 y per boat l,'and their friends. If developed residentially, only ,J:,'tQ 4 f ami 1 i es woul d have waterf ront access (assumi ng t..acre zoning). The benefit of this increased access a!'l'" j'.:cr~ I 8 1990 marina comes at no cost to the taxpayer and does;~6t ,.. . . '" ~. . , .. require many of the expensive year-round public services that residential development does (schools, police, etc.) . Clearly, North Fork Shipyard falls well within the guidelines for the LWRP. New York State Coastal Management Program requests local elannino and economic develoement aoencies_to work tooether with State and Federal agencies in actively Dromotino water deeendent uses and helping streamline permitting procedures that may be burdensome to water dependent uses. Enclosed is a copy of the first few pages of State Coastal Policies for your review. 7.) Summary: This parcel is a goed candidate for redevelopment. It possesses many desirable characteristics for sound coastal management as outlined by the Department of State and represents the best possible alternative from both an environmental and an economic standpoint to the development and protection of our coastline. Respectfully, ?Y;/~ Peter J. Needham Vice-President - Coecles Harbor Marina & Boatyard, Inc. 8 tr'gn I)-v 4- April 14, 1990 . To: Valerie Sco~az, Town Planner From: Henry Raynor Re: Marina Bay Club In-i-I? Per your reauest of April 12, 1990, I am following data for the final site plan. Elnclosing the . .. 1. ~ercentage of expansion of square footage of propo.ed restaurant. The reconstructed restaurant will be approximately 7000 Square feet. It will be situated on the existing structure and shed to the North Side having approximately 5850 sauare feet , . 2, Support Utility Building usage The proposed use for this bouilding is for storage ahd l!iupplies for the marina complex. It will ~lso be utilized for the stor- age offirematic supplies requ~sted by the Cutchogue Fire Diet. 3. Suffolk COW'lty Dept. of Health Services approvals. We are "resently eXploring (met with Bob Jewell 4/9/90) three alternatives for final water and sewerage determinations. A. ExpanSion of existing facil\ties through upgrading. B, Denitrification system and on site water filtration. C. Sewerage Treatment Plant ~nd on site water filtration, Some of the background data is enclosed for your information, At present th",ir office has not indicated af'\ll;..Y \1'~,\ ~. "l'~ ' t)i<:\V"\~ S \l1\\Ol ..~.",;, f1),H~l\NG'':c.. ... action fOr t'li" project to follow. ! would r~est the Planning Board to proceed and approve the sit"plan as Suff. Co. Dept. of Health Services require- ments would not change the site plan elements as submitted. ~hank you for your consideration. in this matter. Yours truly, 4.1- --~~~ Henry R~y2r ;, . . We. enc;J.ose herewi.th two (2).ets of pag.. .1,18 aJK1 allrevi,sed AUg\lst 4, 1988. Please intlert them ~. your of our report and forward the other set to "Bcology" and t~ to do the same. ,Please let IlIe know when YOU send your CO!lllllents BCo;J.ogy Very truly yours, , McLBNOON & MORRBLL, PO.C. I':!~GRO~P~ ~'~:"';!>>~I~"'her. ~~<>D 8;lId. ~u, P.C. . Hobmacher. ~doD and Murren, Inc. . 112M 1j;'~;;,i' ,epgintlel"S. AtchlleClS. Planners. Scientists ' ~1~,t;;~:' :'/;: lis";<S'l'SBroad HollOW Road. Melville, N.Y. 11747.507tS "?:,l'ci';;r.' ,r:y. . '(SItS) 7S<HlOOO. (201) 575-5400 ~;;<;FAx:516-tS944122 ~,~..,.., .. ':C>;"'. ", ,"!',<,. ,'_".i ~", , '~~3:,i";; :;;;,."> t:'J;,",;:- August 4, 1988 ::~;y;.' PaulJ. Ponturo, P.E. . Senior Public-Health Bngineer 'Burean of Dri.nki.ng Water 'CountYOfSuffol~ Department of Health Services 22Saabro DriveJlast Ha\J.ppague, New Yor~ 11788 aeference: Marina, Bay Club Water and Wastewater ')}"y\ :fi;;"':,"; "!~~?>;.' Dear l'aul: SClhJ\lO ce:Hr. R. Carr JAC Plal1l1ing JMs Jean Celender) ".),Hr ..H. B. aayaC)r Hr. J. Hart . · RMtt>..4. "'.Y, .f'#jrlleld. "'J. -,-~..c..__~_...-..:._~___..~ _ ". , ... e: . WATER AND WASTEWATER ENGINEERING REPORT MARINA BAY CLUB I. SUMMARY This engineering report has been prepared as a supplement the OEIS r,lating to the .project knOwn as Marina Bay CJ,ub, proposed to expand and upgrade an existing marina and . New Su,ffolk. . the water resources of the. area, proposed and alternative water supply and treat1tlent sch8U\es the proposed wastewater collection, treatment and subgrade treated wastewater disposal. The estimated design water requirements are 28,6$7 per maximum day which will b. supplied by any of three sources sal ty~, deep well, a sal ty hor hontal screen near the bay fresh water horizontal screen parallel to Pu.aJ.l;. Street. treatment rfilcommended and included are Reverse Osmosis of salt water, preceded by decaling chemical . treatment and 1.1.1 filtration at 5 microns and followed by pH adjustment with alkali .. ,and hYPOChlorination. Treated water will be stored in stor.ge ,tank with about one day use (25,400 gallon) and then pumped as needed via a hydropnuematic tank to the distribution system. Reject, water from the RO system will be able to be .treated for iron and manganese reduction by oxidation and filtration before " disposal to the bay through a series of small diffusers along the pier. :, The upland well field and transmission system is preferable. but was not assumed !mplementable since it would require either L npply ~urcllt wU,l blIt t~ lItithlltr of two (2) salty ",.11s wi~ a tr..h horiZOntal w.11'.. . tuture po.sibi1ity. RBV 8-4-88 . I'l ...... . lfishingpurpOSeliJ, is saline and tidal and Uows Pec:onic Bay. Tne proposed supply system has been ~dified to include (2) .~andard wenscree6 sourCes Plus a reserve fresh hod:r;ontal well: sCreens jlS a future use possibility. In case.wa~erw!n be pl.UllPed to the . treatment facility. It obv~olas.for all: ~estwell: workdoQ8 on the property tM.t < . '.' .' ".. .. .... .... .......: ..:.,.....:....:. -ll:s~elowabout 40 fee.t will be salty. The well: SUPply will: constructed below the confining clay at a depth to be dlaX'ing final design butprobably~out 122 feet. '!'he test constructed on site showed high iron and ..nganese to a depth 106 feet and if reasonable . can !:Ie developed at 110 feet deeper. Attempt will: be made to find a depth with low iron '..nganese. Well: construction is planned to be by the ro~ or tool method with an 6 inch to 10 inch hole drill:ed to about 200 feet. The hole will be electric or gamma ray logged to verify sand and clay stratifications and 6B screen and casing . reinstalled. If rotary constructed. the annular space between the drilled hole and the well casing will be filled with cement grout the bottom of the cl.y to near the .ground slaX'face. The well wil !:Ie equipped with either a sul:lmersible low head PI.UllP or with a drop suction pipe and will include a water main to a PI.UllP in the water.plant building. Pump selecUon will depend on hydralal conditions blat mOllt . likely will: !:Ie asul:lmersible lanit .providing. .". 18 RBV. 8-4-88 ~{+t,<< r;1;,,\;,::, :,'~,', ,i ~,'(, ~,' ~ ',,'," -, "'A,;j" ~~r< ~>;';'"", , ~~J{E~;"": ~. '->'o':'~'-. :jtf ;, '\ j,~\~::: '~, ", .,,' ~:ii;" ~1 ~i\;~>.;;,;-, !2t~,{(;:j;''-: l' i\if)t~ 7 . . . . . ',,'~ ::,;';:';1-;:"'\ :',~"'~:;::':'{'~;):;:'!~ The expected detailed desig~ of the freshwater horizo~tal\Q;7 " " :-)":" ser~ will i~clud4il 60 filet of 4 i~h scree~, inetalled inta" :'Y",: tre~h which willhav4il a bott011l elevatio~ 3 feet be;Low lowwate:;:;!f,:' level, with 6 inches of filter nnd or llravel below the acre~.I',[ depth will provide a 11Iini~ Of, 18im:h.. ,()f#, on the sides and above the acreen., The Sc:reen'!-!/1'~ installed i~ 2 30 foot sellreg..ted aec:tiona e"cll",';'t desiped for ",t least a30 ll.p.m flow, but eacll WOuld normau~..\' '.f operate at 15 go.p.m. fora total Of 30 ll.p.m. water w!llbe;:': pWIlped through a pipe to a. pWllp in the wa.ter pla.nt; either suctic:>a\T!' orpnssurized if pump is in vault ~earecre~. Odnq-afl"i!i"c? ' .~ Qpec::ted 30 elot SCreen with 20 perce~t open are.. would result in+- SCreen entra.nce veloc::ity of 0.017 ft per second or a.boutone": sixth the ma.ximum rec:OIIIII\ended. J;t is expected that this portio~ of the sUPply system woul4 not be uti}.ized unless exte~s1ve pumpi~g teste and auly.es were " ma.deand pre.e~ted to the Hea.lth Departme~t for apprQl/'al. We""' anticipate some reserva.tions as to this SOUrce and ita sanitary,' protectio~ but ai~e the filter material will be llreater than that used o~ a ~orma.l filter pla~t which might have river water as a SOurce. We do not believe the source will be at risk. The water would be tre~ted by filtration, corrosion Control chloration with excess contact time i~ the water storage taJ)]c If nec.esary, the fresh water eOurce water could aleO be thrQUgh the R. O. eystem and be treated more efficientlY at leu, pressure th..n the sa.lt wa.ter. "ATE! TRE~'l'MBN"1' ~ Exte~ive water t~e..tme~t is pla~ed in the fo~ Of _()~.i. designed as multht4ge units, ,either 2 - 20 g;p.m. )<.r>ISg.p.m. units, to receive aa.lt wat;4ilr contai~4\g30,oCto '::tOt4l,cl1.S/)lved solid, inclucU~g 13,000 mg/l of cblori<lea r,' ';",'-'-:" 19 REV 8-4-88 . ~,-,;.:~~~~,:.;,;~~_.. ~~g-,",,,,,,,,,,,,,=,,,,,",",-,,,,,,,"-- ::,:i"; ,,' " GRO~ ~ .' ~'&t"1DM ~.~. wt . ;'. \ ^.. ~ ~~,\,", Bo~,......... Mdeadoll lIQCIMW'l'dI. p.c;. HoI""-er.~ and MQftdI,Inc:.. 82M....., ihj/,<, EI1gl.,.. =~.... NdIlteClS. Planners. Scientists '~'''':<'-',''.:<,.'' ',,:' .. ,', t'I,;'" 575Iko1K1Hollow Road; Melvllle,N,Y, U74H076 ,~:;,:'i ''(516)756-8QOOe (~Ol) 57>5'100 '<F', !:; FAX>"l6>694-4IZZ ~:'0": ,;'1,',/':" ,<'f!.' liD? ;;.1;:,' "'0"';" r -C,,>,,:. . Septemper 15. 1988 , :_ 0 R . Carr . PreSident .' .. SbasIlro.<:lc Properties Corp. 35'0 Fifth Avenue . ROOIII 1826 New'York. New Yorlc 10118 Reterence; Marina Bay Club Water & Wastewater Supplementary Report of H2M dated 6/88 (Revised 8/4/88) Dear, Mr. Carr: We are enClosing, for your inf~tionc:opiesof tbe following letters whicb were received today; 1. Letter To; dated 8/18/88 Louise ~rison" Office of Ecology Paul Ponturo . FrOll\ 2. dated 9/8/88 Valerie scopaz, Town Robert So DeLuca Biologist Letter To: PrOlD : Planner If you have any questions. please contact this office. ,~ Very truly yours. HOLZMACHER, McLENDON & MURRELL. P.C. · "."'J~fJ,~_ s:fl';'_ P.R. · ~ Corp lu .".. c:c'; JAC Planning <'H ."~R.ynOX:' S. Niego Kart. Esq. . _ ~__~1 ~-_.'_..~ .' .. .' .. .. .' - ---,."-.._,----~-~-----~-'--"-_.__.~,... ,\ , ,.' ~." 1 .<< 'i i 1"" i ~ u > .......... . i lDi'.! sf' -It ! '~"\ ' '. ' 'c. ~i ' "!i ~ ~ \ ft. ~"e~.'....o .~ !a Jef"'" I .. II' t ! B "~ .- .. :>-~~~ . . , -.....- ,.' !.. .....1' 't.tt ii~ ...... . '.~ . ~ It, .Ijl>! I' · .. '..'. ~ t ,I l~t 1( '<.. ,. I) 'il II "I!a - ...t ti Ii!. ,g ir~~i~i h ;i~i I i~r I ~til -n i It . it r ~. i ~l. ~! >C.......... .11.il" ~ .~ .. tl J 1:." J.. !i''''?3iliiit Ii., ~ "8 .1. ! I I 11 l'.3 lieJ,., i ~:,.'''-. i U '.. .. , Ms. !l!m"4l1'OO August 18, 1988 l'age 2 . . frcIn.nrlJ,. 0<>3., aIlC1 SO' ~ fr!:m ~-otf <kai.nage ~. (.:aOOOt;.l:le ~H..", the ~ i$ not in a legal roeitim to waive .~ wtUd1 can mly be ~ by a ~ ~ 8Qud ~~oa. ~..t:bIt -~ b;eat:llleneechematic: _ re('(~., ...""- . addit.i.oPal poillt f~.~ just. ~ of. the sbou1d ~ opez:at:icnal. OJ*i<l!a 1*'OV8 to be IIlQre a '>/'i;",<' PJet c:J.a, Ene. bee: Robert Villa .".: \.: f!" , .. r' . . .... cr, fllcl.endoat lUJ.d Murren, P.C.. HoWnacber, McLendon lUJ.d Murrell, Inc. . eers,A.rc:hlrects, Planners, Scientists . m'lkoad Hollow Road, Melville, N.Y, 11747-5076 (516) 750-8000 . (201) 575-5400 . ::.;;!'^", 516-694-4122 iff; . ~~ "." . ~~~?~;.,:'.' i 1f$_i;I.~: ~'; -': Decembar 12, 1988 Mr'. R.. Carr, President ShamrQck Properties Corp. 350 Fifth Avenue Room 1826 New York, New York "j;: .Reference: Marina Bay Club. DearM.r. Carr: &1i We are enclQsing a copy of a 1988 'received from the Department we believe is self-explanatory. letter dated December 7, of Health Services which ;i';;')",,-' . }~'~~;~/:'<: ~"':' , Very truly yours, HOLZMACHER, McLENDON & MURRELL, ~.'t~i@ t.'~:: . ,i,L';'"::",, 1.':'., SCM:mo cc: J. Hart, Esq. S. Nhgo H. Raynor J.A. Celender ,J()': "; ~,;: . ~,-~;. t,.,; :'-~ ..~ 0Y"< t~t. Ii': Ii . :.;......,.,. ,'.. 'C':;',;.:':_",.'::'. 1~~~;,;,,~::~?,3::J_~:,' ;'< 'H': )idYllic, N.Y. -lUverhad, N.Y. - F.lrt1eId, NJ ~~N;:;~<:- f'j':: . ':;;""~"-~~..L~_. ___'0 _. ~'"-'!:Jt"""c.-"".-::::~~.~.~ . -_. ...".,~""'""",........,,.~ ,_..,,,_.-_. P.C. .. ~ .' . CO!NTY OFSUFFOL.K .;. .,. Gl PATRICK G. HALPIN Sl,JI'J<OLK COUNTY EX~UTIv" Of'. HEAL.TH SElR\lICES OAVlD . December 7, 1988 M.1';.;, S.C. McLendoll,li'.E. ,~, G1'QIlP 575 B1'oaa Ho~~QW Road Me:l.vi11e, New York 11747 lUh Marina Bay Clllb Pear M1'. HcLe!\c:!on: Your application t01' construction of'sewllge disposal , ta.tlilities tor tile a.I:!ovlil referenced project has~ntorwarded to lIIe bv Mr.Co$1;.a. Here are IIIV caamentll: ' 1. The SPOES ~rmit applicat;ion Form D s11blllitted with the application mU$t be signed by a principa~ executive officer of the company. The engineer'S signature is lIQt acceptab~e. We require the follQWinq s~t.ches, all on 81:1" x 11" size pa~r, before we can, pr~e$1I the dbcha.rg41 permit fo1' the $Sl\ituy' wastewater effluent. aI, Overall project site plan shoWing sewaqe treatl!len1;. plant, effluent 41spo1l81 aru and buildtngs eerved. Show 1111 unitary $ewer lines, and adjoining st.reets. .." , bl PetaUed'sitaplan of th41 STP and d1sposa~ BYllt"",.Show latitude and ~ongitude of outf.~~. ~. 'l1he discharge pel!llltt for the rever" oSDlOsis rejec\; liIast.ewater 1;.0 Cutj::hoque Harbor lIW!t be obt.tned tZ'Cllll NYSDEC'~StOn~,Brook. . 548..33~2 , ~ ~ . . . .' '" ""'" ,e',';>' Mr. S.C.,McJ:.endon, p.E. l' aqe '1'wo 3. It is assumed that the 150 seat Bonnie 's J{~staW';~t; listed ill TableZn of the Ilngineering report. is not a part of thll Marina Bay Club site. 'We wou1d not approve any outlJide cOnnections to.. thll pr~eCI S,", without Suffolk County Sewllr A9en.CV invo1vllDlent or approval by the SCHS Iloa,rd of Review. . .. . ...... 4. 1'lease.ubmit Ii copy of. the < Pinal. SEQRl'. Detern\.l.natiOJl, in,*" by the TCIWIl Of southold. . . . ., A c:c:>py of thll report will be fo;warded to .1'.\11 ponturo tor'. ,review of . the w.tel' lJupPlV sY!Jtelll. We will con1:inue'Q\Ir review '. ..~YQ1,lJ:'ea1:i.factorv . respolUle to the !above and thll decision on.thehutter distllnC8s by the SCHS Bondot Review.. OO;1.1r cc: Paul PonturO, 1'.E. '\: . ., if'!' .....". .~c "'<'"_-,"-,._.._ .. .. ;_."-,_.~_..-,,~--,..._,._,-. ,_""~....,.~,~, ._i.~"_'__'~"" , <'" '~' \,'", (i""" " l'," . i', ' ~j'1'\',%~'. .' '.' ";~,..-' " -1 '-" ::-"'>:':,~~;.1 PATRtcK G'.:MAL:Pfj./" """,:'"i,::' "" ,,:, .,' ' ' 'llUI'I'iou< CQUNTy 1IlXIIC\Il'IYE ' ," Y:iirJ~j,,,' "':;<.,' /,: ":';" -','1;;;'; , ' IEfilT }1tC!\~ 1S1llIItVIOQ, ~~"73~t,;: ',.:!~; '.' , 'ed.'~~" Town 'laMe~, , " SOllthoU,',TQWn Plannlps Depar tllltPt So\lthllltLToVll ,Hall ' ~~)::~~~~;~-(\:,:(:.-// '--i" ~:.''"':-:''_,'1',:,:,;:_,;" ',:~.. ,'_', "\ . '0','1:.' , f",."."" J" ",:,-'di",.:,:,;.~t,{x~,:,,'~,:~,'~'\_'~:': " ,:,~~,-, -~.. - '-,'. ~':',_: -:, - {';,--::>> 3r',;/f.::~:~~;::';',:.\;;::':' ,,'-_,,"'--""': ,_,'" ,~~~.,">~;:,,<:::'~'~ll: ,i':,:;,';~':L\~~\\'_;,:" :"'-' :;~i'$:,' , _,'e," .~,J, __ ,_,,' _: . ", ,7,-:/' '; "~~:i:,~,::,'~;J_ ,~~{~,:,~--,' "':':~" :i"t", A :~::i\~'~>r:.~;!:;i;t\!\}.ii:~~ ":' i',~:,:,Y!',: _ ;,:\J:'-,' .':; :':~ :-:\~;::;,/ '_"'"'''' :'''-',:', ':,;:-~1~j '> ,:~:_' "\>:~,;" :'-,;,31.::".:1:';-_ ;'; .:'~,:_" .'__>Y:, ,:_::.,,,,''';c,,,,> ~{, ; ,:i\:~~11c\i,~~,i;\-; _',': ,~,'~i. , ' < ':::: ~t',:,K.~ BIl)'; .<:1\1b,Dr,f~,Bllvlr~t.l X.,.,t St.t~ft~~~klel'l,j., ',' ',;';- Vu-t...,ter Sllppl.....tar)' ~P9rt'>",> if,' . !," ",;"',;.,: J,,~,f%f.i>", ,,'i:'t,'> , }", If.'>; (Prepared by ~H, ~ted 6/88, re.t,aed 8.14188) 3., " ':,N. : .', . ;;;~:~.<ScClpQi, " ,,'i;,,:',~~, ' '"L,/,..t:'~~;;~~':I":!'ff:}" '., ,~'TM'$llffolk County DePllrtMftt of Healtll ,Servlcu ,> (SQl)BS).\:C'B~,.u " qf:;. , ,nJd~::. Vater, rec;enU, cOIl,J,eted 1 tll ~e.l.l( of th., the above-.eptlqfted! ' uptill.lftltt to the Dr,if E"vlrol1aental J;.~c:tS,tat....t (DItS) _",' ' ,5:, RelAted pOrttonllofcthe Bureau'. r~1~r"'P9rt' are p~Yided ~icW'f~ ~~l"for..tioll~, .,' :;,':,;< " : ".~ , ')S:.' :::1; :Vater Su,p-1y;Alterollat1ves:~,: , ". '( ,:; ,:'; "f'" ~{G<f:::/: ....ardins ,the water sUPPlt ~lte~tiV'8;'th~IIUr~~~:Dr'~klq;;~~:" r ' repnls: fa' Ctmtr.J, upland,lICliu:ce IUld lIistrlbutlOI1 facUlty, to' be t_.',1IOlI ~:.',4..habl., for ..aenUall)' thl! ~era..on,,' cltedby; tlJe ttJI8',!n..l:' (N~, ;16 oL the ,report). ".It.h'o,lIrpodtloll,that; tbrolllhovt thf.~dodiOf adflnh1:f;aUve revlell" tile, apPUCA/lt:sJ\ollld conUIl\Ie. to c P\ll'~,:, thi lte!:".,,:!.ve IIHh the ,To!IJI~ and, the Sllffolk County Vater Authority;: ,,', ."" ,~,>",'<1~,""<-':"", ' , , ' ','-' '. ,'~:V":. ,''..: ' <':;':~'::":,:,,~,',:',",_ -'::_,__',' ::,' ',,~":':,,', ':')^~~::'.~:"'~":'<:--::':"i, (, ;, ~Howeve~, as a conCePtI the alternat:lv.:of IUl on.site brackish ."atEuf, .~ollue ,with reverse...o.-o!! s ('1;'(0)' trll!'tllent, ..prop~ed,' is cOl!:Jis~ent w1~h tb4 4.ip requir...nts;o~ tjte New",Vorlt '$tate ,Dept_ . of 1l..1th,;, fill cable to anon.cOlIla\Inhyvater supp,!)',_! " . . , ,\' ~";::~N~:-tiona"\l1~~~:~:< ': ,:' ,;1,:~~;~';,{,>.:;t~,:;: :;}~~;,"~!:,"!;~Y':,):;i . ~ " "TIwt water' allppl)' propo "wO\lld;~".I'"tq;,'n,"..1;t~ta:,the' ~U1lVi lUnl!! ", .,.,'" ",:'l,:)~i~~;:it;}'<: :t:>::i~;:.~;t:, '} l~;t:;j\,;::, '/'~~lMdl(~n ll'.ntit'.nd'P,9I1.11..~b (mms:ptnh:,~~f.<~' 'lItll~j:and rl~t:~' ivater ~.!.1>>O.1l~ r~,"ctlJf,l)'. ,.\.' , , ~ft::;. y: ." ':~' · '\"<~ft:lii'k" ':, ",'. '~'~;fr ". i , I """,\'- '~ , ' ~>~,: '<:~,~~~~~-"''- ,-.--".\, ..,t.... ,:^--'~ . '.< . '.' , " , "Letter to Valerie S~O~I" :;,.' ,', :;!iept, ,8, .19,88' ~;\';~'~!t:}' :._' . . ,': \>:"'-",', '." , ' " ,:"::~.\:.::j; ~",,> ':.')+~::_?'f"~: ':1;'L'\;';;;,~:-P1'" and.peciUcaUons fo~th~'''ater supply ands..,... tre.. : '~/"'!' d~posal BYstellls with the Bureau of. Drinking Water .andlureau" ;;,::'d:'''''j";~,;::Vut.,,ater HanagelllaDt, re8pecUvely. '. , ",f, {'-- ,,-I,_;~,"'<<~::>~'~~X,0!i~:, _" ' -' ,," ,,:;::.'.; , . '" --'!:,:r:.',?{'-~"~~'-:,:";,,, ~,;."", .cOncerning the site pl. and f;lQ't 8cheQtic8 pr.ented, we,nQt. ,'ttW; ,~:th.,..e;l.l \"location, under, oUr 8tandard8, .U8t p;:."vJde~AlIlD__"lS0~ ,::dearance" frcm 'ce..pools,' and 50' dearance frOll,' runoff,. :dra1naa ",nructur.8: If .,.. "...' '\., ;', .~;; ~,t",;'_ ' ''',;.' - "J i. ~ ' "::,',;..:- '.': ,;", :: ,1;>;,: '......rdlnr th. vat.r tlieataent systea sebeutic we'reco-.nd'provl.i' ;"::,,'for .',' an -"dhlonal point fOt c:h~odnation j....t \,Ipstraua of. tbt' "1- hydropneuutlc tpk. sho\,lld this operational opt.ton, 'ptove, to ;,be~" c',desirable at a later date.""" :!1"~" .; ',. ;l;!!" ';e"-,-'" , ., ," , -,," ''l;)':R:( , c.'."., ,;,;:,:',~( ;;~". -', " ~v. oca,predate 'ihe opportl.lnltyto",provide YOll';'1tI(i~Dfc.""'1lo " ,pertaining', to tbe revie" of the propoud action.: SIlouJ.4, "ClUNve' ' :~,ql.l8s.t'IOl11J or require a41litional infotllation concerning the revl" of 'tb ' ",' .uppl.....t.ry' report,._--' ple... contact"the, Bureau of Pr-inltinli;Vateli".,t ,348: ,,;",,' 2900, or the Office of Bcology at S48-'3060~+ ",: ", ?>":',, '. ,,' ,,,', """':"'s;n~;~~i;:':";':":;l;,:' . :~ ~ .&~:t~~::";;~ Robert S, DeLI.l4a, ",',',,'" . , Bi,01og1at '.; :/;~;}~~' , , " ~uis. Y.,Balirlson . {: '.' , S\,Ipel:'visol:, Burea\,l of';": " '. Bnvironnntal KalUli8lHllt ;; Office of ,Bcol.Q "':,1" ,'", " "A' .' . ,~,t~' ',('> Y ',,'. ,-:,,' ,. lso/..f ,eel ,Vito Hinei, .P.B. , ',si.ve Costa, ,.B~,; PaulPont\,lro, P.B,;' ..>,,:-. ~~~"'''''''''''':''''''''-~'"__'."' _'.~:i::.~"," _.._. ~---~,::.,,--,--,-- .:' "', ....0.,>,,,':;'-. ,~.:,..;',,,,-.' ;""", \., ~'," _~~_._'-'::__.:...'...~~.:c-~~.l ~::s~,,;,<, ,.'~ ',.,,' - '~~"1:;:;.:1.;~PL,;:i,_ We have revised our water and wastewater plan to provide minimum clearance :l;rom wastewater leaching pools and minimum clearance :l;rom runo:l;:I; drainage structures :l;or "wells and have enclosed 20 prints. A chlorination ,point has been added upstream 0:1; the hydropneumatic tank ... to their request. In response to NYSOEq' s letter '"previously received. we have increased the distance between "sur:l;ace water and the wastewater leaChing pools to comply <. the 7 5~:I;oot buHer requirement. Don Sioss will be modHying the drainage plans to reUect above changes and will submit copies 0:1; same to you next week.. Should You have any questions concerning the enclosed, please contact me at your convenience. . . A, (GROUP . . . M!;Lendon ~d Murrell. P.C. - Holzma<:her, Mc:Lendon~d Murrell.lnc._ RZM Planners, SdemiSlS Hollow. Road, Melville. N.Y. 11747.5076 - (ZOl) 575-5400 September 16. 1988 . Mrs. Jean A. Celender JAC Planning Corp. 8 Bond Street. Suite 300 Great Neck, New York 11021 Marina Bay Club DEIS WS'rW 86-02 Dear Jean: We are in receipt 0:1; the Su:l;:I;olk County Department 0:1; Services' letter dated September 8, 1988, concerning the OBIS .Water and Wastewater Supplementary Report :l;or the Marina Club. Very trUly yours. \~ HOLZMACHER. McLENDON & MURRELL. P.C. ~~'<-/ Gary B. Loesch, P.E. Enclosures #'!' . RiChard T. Carr Henry Raynor JohnJ. Hart. EBq~ MiChael P.Bon~:le . . jU\itrhc-.u.l. NY . f~irfic..kJ. NJ. , " , ~. ~):;'."II-;j~""'~G' RO' . . :&f::{::_,,<.~t.Lr"-~ ',' . , ",tlObllUlcher, McLendon and Murrell, P.e.. Holzmacher, McLendon and Murrell, Inc.. H2M Labs, Inc. '::./':;Engjn'''ers.ArdlilC('tS, Planll(:rs, SdClltists We haVE' modified our water and wastewatfilr plan to reflect comments indicated in the Suffolk County Department of , ',iServicEls I letter to Valerie Scopaz (Town of Southold) September 8, 1988, on the above referenced project. At reques~ of Samuel C. McLendon. P.E., of this office. I am enClos- ing f01Jr prints of the revised plan. . . ~:'}c. 575 linJ:ld Hollow Road, Mc!\'i1k, NY ) J 7~7,S076 (li~Y(516) 756.8000 . (20)) 575.5~O() ',: . FAX. 516,49,j-<j122 ::.t':" r,'::- -,>,; september 16, 1988 '~:i: , t~'< . . ~/J'i', .. /:.'O~, i;>.n t," ;~'~- ".,<::' ~'. Paul Ponturo,' P.E. Suffolk County Department 225 Rabro Drive East Kauppauge. New York 11788 of Health Services lie: Muina Bay Club WS~:'W 86-02 :ri;t%:'~i /:, . kif Dear ~. ponturo: fE": ilk it:' '< ;~>%,>'~ ~0;' ,;,.,' f," ~'~~L'.;/i. '\-'", "',, , ~,\:,' ~ Should you have any questions after you have had an opportunity to review the enclosed. please contact Sam or the writer. c'~ W'i,., ~':~<t,:> Very trUly yours, ';jf; ':';;';,;;,;>. HOLZMhCHER, McLENDON & MURRELL, P.c. 'ft ~~~?/ Gary E. Loesch, P.E. \: (,c..>"- ~'F", GEL:mad Enclosures ce: Richard T. Carr Henry Raynor Jean A. Celender John J. Hart, Esq. Michael P. Bont;e ~ N," . Ri,..mead. NY .f..rfl<~~, NJ :~~~~,....:~.....~__-,-"..""",-,,,,-=zs~~. ~- ._~._ .U.~ 1 \ _J MAIN --I . ,ifI..~.fY ,~ k .~"I'" Ie . . - .. .. a: ii: - ~ .. w w a: .. .. g ~~ >> IWOI! -,r,l D"t't.,. ".~ -0 co f"g~~. ""'!~~ '1A!7- ~r.......... _00 o 0 0 . M PLAN . .... SCALE; 1".80' <fI!' .~GRa.P _~__i_~__._,._.,-,-- . MCHI'I'IC'nl . ~ . 1CIlEN"IlS1lI . ~.0 j . III_.II.Y. '-...0."'''' ___I. . ,. . :~G .~ '.~GRre. 'P ,;a Lill/,:rll . UU . . . IlIcLendon and MurreU.P.C. . Ho1zmacher, Mc:l.endon and Murrc:u. Inc. . HZM Labs, ArchiteCtS, Planners, Scientists Broad Hollow Road. Melvllle. N.Y. 11747.5076 (516) 756-8000 . (201) 575.5400 f'AX: 516-6944122 Match 9, 1989 . ~atFloria Assistant Public Health Engineer Bureau of Wastewater Management Suffolk County Department of Health Services county Center ~iverhead, New York 11901 Re: Marina Bay Club C1 0-88-0 13 WS'lW 86-02 Dear Ms. Floria: We have received your comments on the Engineering Report for the above referenced project and submit the fOllowing responses in accordance" with the numbering system in your letter dated February 3, 1989..../ 1. The two story building has been connected on the site plan. The flows Were already included in the design flow calculations on page 27 as retail stores. 2. The peak flow for the pump station should be 60 gpm as shown in the design calculations in Appendix A, (page 4~). 3. The design calculations for the pump included in Appendix A. (page 42) . station have 4. The dimensions of the equal bation incorporated into the basis of design aeration requirements adjusted. .\~ tank have (page 33) and 5. The equali~ation tank pumps have been described in of design (page 34). The calculations can be Appendix B. 6. A constant flow spl il;ter box' has been provided in ot: design before the prilllllry cla;r1t:!er and is . Figure II. (page 41). 7. 8. . Dimensions forth~ primary.,clarifier are inQ~ed minimUln SWD of .7't:E!E!t (page. ..3~U.. . .' . .' ",.4:,;.:" The performanQef':e\lflves for theRBCsan ~~cl\lded in (pages 44. 45) . Ct.' 'ii,',' . RlveJllwd. NY. . .,..lrl1cld, NJ. .. . . ::/~Wi' . '>,.;;<~ali:i 'J~r-", "'i,_, Page '!.'Wo March 9, 1989 '~/: .:/:-:' Floria Mar ina Bay Cl ub ....-..,.,: :-""',,':,' 9. Standard spacing has been provided for .the entireR:8Ca~ indicated in the basis of design (pages ~. . 35). . 10. RBC surface area has been calculated based on a nitrogen of 50 mg/l (page 34 & 35)~ . . 11. The denitrification fil ter has been designed with pea~ing factor in the basis of design (page 36)., , 12. "::.:~,::,;~i~:~i:." The denite bac~wash pump size h<ls been reVised in <lccord<lnce{, with the increase in filter size, (P<lg. ~~). .." 13. . The meth<lnol requirements h<lve been c<llculat.d b<ls.d the tot<ll nitrogen of 50 mg/l in the basis of design 37) . 17. Blowers for the equ<lliZ<ltion been specified in the basis 33&37). tank and <lerObic digesters have of design (sections A . F #> 18. The hydraulic profile for the pl<lnt has been included Appendix 0, (page (6). 19. A wastew<lter flow recorder is described in the control section (section III, Page 33). 20. Emergency powet is discussed in the basis of design J, page (0). 21. Heated office, laboratory and lavatory are discussed in Building and Grounds section, (Section II, page 32). 22. The following h<lve bfi!en added; to the flow schematic II, page (1): splitter box influent screllln scum l.ines' flow recorder aerobic digester decant line !=austicaddition po,int has been corrected. 4'!' ,)'; .lH. (,) .~,lGR oup !",'< ........IL.i 1.. ~i>~::;:';' ",.,",,' ,....j.,., . . . . Pilt Floria R.e: Mar ina Bay Cl ub ;";:: ,ki:r-:.Y ,~i:'i :it;,;':<::;\ ,>"',,,.:.",-, ~Gt,::~,.', lXi.',",', "'. 23. Ie". " >,-';., .t"., /'.,,"-:,_,i ~t: . ~t~;i~~1:': ~.... " ;~~)';;,~" , 24. 25. ;':,,!t; L.-::';'" ~iij;:: ~':~~;y:; ,1;::Y~f;-:!,;:,,<':' ~f~~:;::;',"t;:,':~" I~:~ .. 26. 27. ~;'% ~(. ~l:'~'? ](-'f' 1":-"-" A ;irevhed illcluded. 'tl:! contact ,:,':.:..c.... 'JA' ,:':'C....;.., ;J'>-' Page Three':' March 9, 1989 On the water and wastewater plan, the scum lines, backwash~ return lines, decant lines, splitter box, and the';:' equalization tank pumps have been added. (Please note that* the wastewater plan represents a preliminary layout only)., The. site plan distances from property lines. Thelongitude and latitude for the site,are: , "':".:'I::~ has .been revised to show all separatio~~ the STP building and leaChing pOOls to the~;); ":d-'C' Longitude 72~27' 5" Latitude 40Q 58' 45" The . Town of Southold has not hsued, its, . final Determination as yet, al thouqh they have h<ldthe Ii'EJ;S for sometime. We will provide You with theirdeterminationwhen'{ issued. '::',,:':,:,,:'i~:;~;;i;': A copy of the PEC Surface Phch<lrqe Permit for the revft'se',,"<." osmosis reject water will be provided when it i. issued. We' assume it will 'not del<lY your approva]., even if your'''. . approval must be "contingent on PEC <lpprova].". ' (:opy of the engineering report and site plan If you h<lve <lny further questions, ple<lse do not me at extension 102. Very trUly yours, '..", +~' I.;': 1I0LZMAC8BR. McLENDON" MORRELL. P.C. R,ichard Car!:' J.A. Celender J. H<lrt S. Niego .~, r . ~~. \: . f'r .. . ,. iGROtJp. .. and Murrell, P.C. . Holzmadler, McLendoo and Murrell, loc. . HZM Lab., Planners. Scien[is~' Road, Melville, N.Y. 11747-5076 . (201) 575.5400 April 18, 1989 Mr . Walter Lindley Senior Environmental Planner Suffolk County Departme~t of Health Servi'ces COUl1ty Center Riverhead, New York 11901 Reference; ~rine Bay Club water/Wastewater . DearWal ter: In October of 1988 we submitted in behalf of Richard Carr, President of Shamrock properties, an application to the Review Board for waiver of certain distance requirements fOr. the proposed waste water treatment system. This t!i!rtiary treatment plant and disposal system, as well as L central water system, was included in our engineering report dated June, 1988 copies of which are on file in the Health Department office. Since that time, procedures and requirements have changed and we have been instructed to eliminate the off site sewage flow accommodation such that it is much more feasible to construct a de-nite type wastewater system for the nitrogen bearing wastewater. In order to do this we understand that if the water system is not classified as a .Community System., we must apply for a waiver. Since we understand that the original concept in requiring a .communi ty. designated system was to minimize potential well contaminants and since the proposed water source is from saline artesian wells, it appears that a request for a waiver may be favorably received. If you agree, would you please incorporate this request with the pending Review Board hearing and advise us what we have to do to obtain a scheduled date. We will be WOrking meanwhile on r!i!Vised site plans and an Engineering Report Supplement anci will send you, Steve Costa and Paul Ponturo. copies as soon as available. ~ N.V. . Rl'"m.r.IIJ, N.Vo . f.lrfkkl, NJ. ; .. . 1101 <UUf-J . . . . Mr. Walter Lindley Riverhead, New York April 18, 1989 Page Two :J;f -there is something missing, please let me know as soon as possible. Thank YOU for your COoperation. . Very truly Yours, HOLZ~CHER, MCLENOON & MORRELL, P.C. Vfl~~. SCM;mo ce: P. ponturo, P.E. . S. Costa, P.E. R. Carr .iill. Raynqr. J. Hart S. Niego . " .. ~ :~:'-"""'~ ~..,.._, . .. To: Valeries Scopaz 'l'own Planner From: Henry Raynor Re: Marina Bay Club Si.tE Plan Enclosed are revised co~ies of plan incorporating the elements me~ting. . Sl./hP't.!? P' ~', ",;,,! ,"'/'.i+"fl}I'f, ,~ ,~:,}:,;,.,.,,,,~~(:_,,t,'.. YS ,~J~;~'!' ..'....i.:. .'> 'i':l\::~;'~ ~!: :"/~::',,f,::'? ./ '#' '':It;,t 7 hi. '7 iti"",:" ',:,. " ", '>:;<i , .r //I-'f-J?' the above captioned site suggested from our last I would appreciate the earliest possible agenda date to finalize this applicaticn. YOK. er~y ','.? c::.-- --- ~ V1fV"\I Henry na~ or ~ 00 ~ j_~JJI~"r;l I" ' .. I APR - 9 1900 , -----~ SOUTHO~p 1)?;!:~ PLANNIN" Bv:;, .'i,,,~~, '" ~ ;." _ ""_'.':"~':"'_'_:":'_~'c..._~ . ,--'I'~I ',' ",h,IJ!",,_ 1-,,_; . . .1 Town HaiL 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold. New York 11971 TELEPHONE (516) 765.1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD February 2, 1990 Henry Raynor 320 Love Lane Mattituck, NY 11952 RE: Proposed Site Plan for Marina Bay Club New Suffolk SCTM 1 1000-117-8-18 Dear Mr. Raynor: The Planning Board has reviewed your January 12, 1990 letter in which you requested confirmation of ten separate elements that will be addressed on the revised site plan for Marina Bay Club. The Planning Board looks forward to reviewing a revised site plan incorporating the proposed changes noted in the letter. At that time it will be better able to confirm whether the elements you discussed in your letter meet with the findings set forth in the Draft Environmental Impact Statement. By way of reference, a copy of the Board's March 29, 1989 letter is included herein. This letter outlines the procedure that this Board will follow in order to complete the environmental review process once the revised site plans are submitted. When the revised site plans are submitted, the Board would appreciate clarification of the following numbered items in your letter: 12. The position of the north and south basin boundaries relative to the grant line should be made'ciear. 13. The percentage of expansion relative to the existing square footage of the restaurant building should be note~ on the site plan. . . . r . . #6. The storage building on the northwest corner of the property must have a use assigned to it, and the appropriate parking provided for that use. With regard to # 8 in your letter, since the state-mandated environmental review process has not been completed, this Board will be required to forward the revised site plans and the draft or final impact statements to the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation for their review and comment. If there are any further questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact this office. Very Truly Yours, ~~,.4.-y. . (;1 /t/'it Bennett Orlowsk~, Jr. Chairman VS:hp Enc. cc: Richard Carr Victor Lessard, Building Department John Bredemeyer, III, President, Trustees Board f . . . . PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW 20 CHURCH STREET - BOX 110 PATCHOGUE, NEW YORK 11772 TEL. 516 447.8900 FAX 516 475.5651 ROBERT S, PELLETREAU '1881.'..3) RICHARD A. SCHOENFELO Cl.SO-19aOI PETER V. SNYDER .JOHN..I. HART JOHN J. ROE. III FREOERIC L. ATWOOD BRUCE T. WALLACe: KEVIN A. SEAMAN VANESSA M. SHEEHAN" BENJAMIN L. HERZWEIG ROBERT H. PELlETREAU OF COUNSEL DOUGLAS.J. lEROSE BRIAN McCArFREY JAMES G. HYLAND 447-8906 w ~ - 17d April 4, 1989 f[DJ ill @ ~ a fL~r IJPR - 1--____ SU~.'T: . {II --...-.;. "AL.SO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA Town of Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Attn: Chairman Bennett Orlowski. Jr. Chairman of the Planning Board Re: Marina Bay Club. New Suffolk, New York SUffolk County Tax Map No. 117-8-18 Dear Chairman Orlowski: I am in receipt of your letter dated March 29, 1989 regarding the FEIS on the Marina Bay Club. The FEIS due date was extended by the Board from its original date of February 2, 1989 to April 3, 1989. Since your letter states that the site plan must be revised to conform with the new zoning code under the master plan. we would appreciate knowing exactly what Changes are necessary. We have already submitted several supplements to the DEIS and do not think it necessary to prepare an additional supplement. We await your reply. Thank.you. Very truly yours, PE I.ETREAU & PELLETREAU , . (~tl/v/- J~nn J. Hai:t JFH:ma cc: See additional Rider 0001U/98 ';\- -, . . . PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU April 4, 1989 . Rider Hon. Francis J. Murphy. Supervisor Hon. Raymond W. Edwards Hon. Jean W. Cochran Hon. Ruth Oliva Hon George L. Penny IV Hon. Ellen Larsen James SChondebare, Esq, Town Attorney Richard Ward. member of the Planning Board Richard Latham. member of the Planning Board William Mullen. member of the Planning Board Kenneth Edwards. member of the Planning Board David Emilita Judith Terry. Town Clerk Richard Carr Jean Celender Henry Raynor Holzmacher. McLendon & Murrell Att: Sam McLendon Dravo Van Houten. Inc Att: Clem Cameron Niego Associates Att: Sol Niego Dunn Engineering,_ P.C. Att: Walter Dunn B. Laing Associates Att: Michael Bontje Saland Real Estate Att: David Saland Young & Young Att: Howard Young Valerie Scopaz. Town Planner Robert Berntsson, Esq. lU/3 . , ece ec. " Town Hall. 53095 Main Road P,O, Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 TELEPHONE (516) 765,1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD March 29, 1989 John .1. Hart Pe11etreau & Pe1letreau 20 Church Street - Box 110 Patchogue, New York 11772 Re: Marina Bay. Club Site Plan New Suffolk, New York SCTM 11 117-8-18 Dear Mr. Hart, The Planning Board has received correspondence from its environmental consultant, Szepatowski Associates, Inc., indicating that the Final Environmental Impact Statement for Marina Bay Club cannot be completed because the site plan does not conform to the new zoning code, which became effective February 1st, 1989. ' When the revised site plan is received it will be reviewed in accordance with the findings set forth in the Draft ' Environmental Impact Statement. The revisions may necessitate an additional supplement or amendment to the Draft Environmental Impact Statement. Upon receipt of twelve copies of the revised site plan, the Planning Board will proceed with the environmental review process. ~ Very Truly Yours, . - ~/, O-b~'liJJ~f?~t~~~( Cha~rmart' ~, - P.S. For ease of review, it would be appreciated if the building footprint of the demolished boat storage building were to be shown o~ the revised site plan. < . (e . (. cc: James A . Schondebare, Town Attorney Szepatowski Associates, Inc. Henry Raynor NYSDEC, Albany, SUNY-Stony Brook NYSDOS SCDHS Board of Trustees . . . . MEMORANDUM TO: Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman Members of the Town Board FROM: Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner V's April 7, 1989 DATE: RE: Marina Bay Club On Wednesday, April 5th, Henry Raynor and Richard Carr stopped by the office and asked for further clarification of both the Board's letter of March 29th, (in which the Board asked them to submit a revised site plan in conformance with the new zoning code) and the dialogue Henry had with the Board at the public meeting on April 3rd. I indicated that the primary reason they had not been sent a letter itemizing necessary revisions was that they had-to determine whether they wished to keep all their non-conforming uses (using existing footprints) or not. Further, since their (Raynor's and Carr's) decision might affect the general concept of the site plan, there was no point in making specific reference to deficiencies in the old site plan under the new code. The architect who drew up the revised site plan would be able to bring it into compliance by reviewing the new code. Both Raynor and Carr agreed that they would review the status of the non-conforming uses under the new code, then make a determination on how to proceed with the revisions. mentioned that if they wished to submit sketches prior to submitting a detailed plan, that I would look them over to if they were in compliance with the new code. would I see cc: Raynor Hart . \1 . . - $/A 6Pr <.E. pt!> - ~ JHN 12 '90 1b:06 P.1 D "..-.---.--.-----'- . .-.--.-.----.-----.- . . __.. _.f~QJ'YI'. ~1'! tS_t-2J:tWoR.---- .. ~(L~_~ft_\-t.R\ ~___ g~~1,...u ___l...t!r'W./Y.. .P LfJ./1/ NG 1(-. Tit. nw m ---- .. .------ .~. ---- .,.. SOUTHOLil TOWN .. .. ._PLANNlNll RO~!!I!.._ _. _ .R~: vY.1..rTR) NA.uiStUt C--_L..l.i6...- 117 -.f-.~Z . . __._______. ...._ . _______... 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[!"~'iJ''iJ'~OO @[F' 1r1m~~~~O[j'iJ'~!1 DATE .. )'f'Attached D Under separate cover via D Prints D Plans D Samples D Change order D the following items: D Specifications DESCRIPTION Sc o.{l G,>"\)V THESE ARE TRANSMITTED as checked below: D FOR BIDS DUE 19 D PRINTS RETURNED AFTER LOAN TO US REMkSk _As- J...t\c",s~~cl ~^- ~1 ~\~k.....e l'~....-:h\^^, 1oJ~~ M-r. ~ S =----~S" tL...-k. J ......e. ~ o.r..ly \ COf"i oC ~ S'ff La.-n'"v' ~J ..-L ~~ h#S '-' ,,^!N-~ u~ ~vv<~~ ~vle--J f-'Ocess. ~-.I ~~ "'- C~'f ~k .0-&__ _~-.-t>..~4- l wlL- ~.r~~.\- ~-\- 'fbJ c~Ltt).i'-\ ~\rtdli. " o For approval 'f:FOrYOUr use yPAS requested o For review and comment COPY TO D Approved as submitted D Approved as noted o Returned for corrections D D Resubmit_copies for approval D Submit_copies for distribution D Return_corrected prints PLA~WIj" , SIGNED: " .nclo,UN' ..,. not .. noc.d, 'Uftdly notify u. .t onc.. 11-1211: 3/11 " ... . . . COUNTY OF SUFFOLK . . PATRICK G. HALPIN SUFFOLK COUNTY EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES DAVID HARRIS, M.D.. M.P.H. COMMISSfONER March 22, 1989 Mr. S.C. McLendon, PE H2M Group 575 Broadhollow Road Melville, New York 11747 Re: Marina Bay Club CI0-88-0lJ Dear Mr. McLendon: At a meeting held in this office on March 20, 1989, between yourself and Mr. Stephen Costa, PE, it was decided that the above referenced project would be revised to a denitrification system, rather than the STP previously proposed. Therefore, we will not send our comments on the latest submission for the STP. If you intend to continue with the STP project, please notify this office, and we will send our comments on the March revision of the STP Engineering Report. Otherwise, please submit an application for the denitrification system. If you have any questions in this matter, do not hesitate to contact me. Sincerely, vv:* ~ Pat Flor~a Assistant Public Health Engineer Bureau of Wastewater Management 00 ~ @ IE ., (! I(' COUNTy CENTER RIVERHEAD, N.Y. 111101 , . ENGIN~ER7NG REP~Rr - WATER AND WASTEWATER FOR , ~. I ~ ~ ~ n ~8i " , t" JAM , 0" "'.1]\1 _,_,"~--i ; SOUTHOLG Tn'!:;, PLANNING BO;\!l!1_- 1 , , MARINA SAY CLU NEW SUFFOLK TOWN OF SUFFOLK SUFFOLK COUNTY, NEW YORK MARCH 1989 , ft.i)).~,/?,!c", ~ I.d . ~v I[l" ..~ ,,,, -", :"';"~ )'. o...t. P' "'. . "'ARlO "\.j S~ffolk C 1S8g 0, {)ept Jet No, Of Health ~ _______ .,ervi~. ______ _c., \ c~ ~\1" ",\\'" t-i~MGROUP HOLZMACHER, McLENDON & MURRELL, PoCo CONSULTING ENGINEERS 0 ARCHITECTS 0 PLANNERS 0 SCIENTISTS 0 SURVEYORS MELVIllE. N.Y. AlVERHEAD. N~Y. FAJRF1ELD. 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' � 243 4• _ � c I}cI gDINe- CA .SaulrM NNFL N y 5 G12ANr LINK-ri ' l`v ��ti Fr -�L-Ir 11V4 AB A r C-4.4145 =evuTNoL1.) 72:;bvNSH/lam b j NEw S uFFoLt- N�sYV Yd 4' ri 14e, MA/e iAI A L A YO v 7 i/�r1 HoUf 1"y FEB 20 1986 Fob , 7, 0904 ZXr 329z-,o .. `' , TOWN C"'lJ:ftK TOWN OF llOJfHOLD Suffolk Counl)'. New York 516 . 765-1801 ._1_1_'_1_'_'_._'_1_ _ _I_l_'_'_l~. / 'N~ ~3972" I / Southold. N. Y. 11971 j{),~ Z.4 19~ RECEIYED OF&!1 (; "'VII A ~ 1Uz..t~1u.,., ~cL~--1 ) '4/Vdhorl -<J"U<ld ~ DoIIan. /970 u.J porSJ;QlZft /&0.0") I(< m~'I5J! (J.b.1l ~. Judith T. Terry. Town Clerk I .~,~_,_~~~~~~_,_,_,_,~~J.2;. ~ I _1_'_1_'.'.'.'. TOWN CLERK TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Saffolk Connl)'. New York 516 - 765.1801 ~OF .f:. .~ ". . 27184" Southold. N. Y. /~L_19JL... ('J!-v-k c ~ . B........-.d()() o. Q () I ->d~ s-; i o . J~erry. Town Clerk ~,~~ rJ:!.. ~~,_t_,_,_,_ ~- ., ~,_. - ., C h 0 ~ ., 1 [ 4iIII , ., t. PETER V. SNYDER JOHN J. HART JOHN,J. ROE. III FREDERIC L. ATWOOD BRUCE T. WALLACE KEVIN A. SEAMAN VANESSA M. SHEEHAN" BENJAMIN L. HERZWEIG PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW 20 CHURCH STREET- BOX 110 PATCHOGUE, NEW YORK 11772 TEL. 516 447-8900 FAX 516 475-5651 ROBERT s. PELLETREAU CI891-1943) RICHARD A. SCHOENFELD (19S0-1980) ROBERT H. PELLETREAU OF COUNSEL BRIAN McCAFFREY" 447-8906 'ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA HALSO ADMITTEC' IN ILLINOIS December 19, 1989 at C' \989 Town of Southold Town Ha 11 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 l. Att: Bennett Orlowski. Jr. Chairman, Planning Board Re: Marina Bay Club: Suffolk County Tax Map No. 1000-117-8-18 Norris/Carr/Wanat: Suffolk County Tax Map No. 1000-122-5-4 Dear Chairman OrloWSki: As per your letters dated December 1. 1989 regarding balances owed for environmental review fees on the above projects. enclosed please find Mr. Carr's checks for $1.970.00 and $3.420.00 payable to the Town of Southold for the fees due on the Marina Bay Club and Norris/carr/Wanat. respectively. Thank you. . Very truly yours. LETREAU & PELLETREAU ,.~ JFH:ma Encs. cc: Richard T. Carr 0001U/104 . . . . Town HaiL 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold. New York 11971 TELEPHONE (516) 765.1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD December 1, 1989 John J. Hart pe1letreau & Pelletreau 20 Church Street Patchogue, NY 11772 RE: Marina Bay Club SCTM #1000-117-8-18 Dear Mr. Hart: In response to your letter of October 26, 1989; a copy of which is attached for your convenience, enclosed please find copies of outstanding bills for review of the draft environmental impact statements for the Marina Bay Club site plan. In response to your letter of August 2, 1989, we attempted to obtain the information requested. Enclosed are timesheets for January, February and March of 1989. Szepatowski Associates will provide the rest of the information you requested upon the drafting of a contract and deposit for half of the work. If you wish to pursue this option, please contact us. Otherwise, prompt payment of $1,970.00 would be appreciated. This is the amount that was mentioned in our August 4, 1989 correspondence (copy enclosed along with the supporting documentation) . g t:~//~~ C/.. ,c>Zr/(//~,/. ~L./'J. M-t/>Uk V L- .~ . Bennett Orlowski, Jr. /- Chairman enc. cc: Richard Carr . -- ..::<?:',,(1?T?,'>. : ,",,'. f'\' '" . (:-c: jl"':r:.:'~ , :?i'tr';':~ "-- ! ~'ci,,~~;p . , Town H311. 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold. New York 11971 TELEPHONE (516) 765-1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD June 19, 1989 Henry Raynor 320 Love Lane Mattituck, NY 11952 RE: Marina Bay Club SCTM #1000-1117-8-18 Dear Mr. Raynor: A review of our books indicates that the fees for the ongoing environmental review of the above-referenced project subject to the New York State Environmental Quality Review Act have exceeded the initial monies you have paid to the Planning Board to cover the environmental review. Enclosed you will find a copy of the bills that were sent to the Planning Board by its environmental consultant, Szepatowski Associates, Inc. for the review of the above-named proj ect. It would be appreciated if you would submit the balance, which is $3,970.00, to this office by JUly 3, 1989. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact this office. Very truly yours" ' ,..-' . /)'!: ,~: ,(/' ~:,,;,:;)~.~, ,:/' ./-". ,/~:,~~,/ l'~~/ /",j/ ... i \, ,. ..'/1/ I' ,,/ / .-" ":,::._ ,_.1_~'i>'!... ....... 1. /",/',~_,"J_[.}"(,/}f.';'." ,-,,/ _..." . - ..::... ' . v' " BENNETT ORLOWSKI,JR. CHAIRMAN cc: James A. Schondebare, Town Attorney John A. Cushman, Town Accountant . .c . .c IriJr lli.~ ~,O W 0~ J "~L. .J L _.___ SO;.1TiIOLD IO~'.'r\,1 rUNNf~!G AO,:::,.O ~----- ~ c, ill ~c;,~a I; j........u _, P. O. Drawer A Jamesport, NY .11947 June 29, 1989 - Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman Southold Town Planning Board Main Road Southold, NY 11971 Dear Mr. Orlowski: RE: Marina Bay Club 1000-117-8-18 and Norris/Carr/Wanat 1000-122-5_4 Cliffside/Tidemark Please be advised that I have notified by clients with regard to your letter of June 19, 1989 requesting additional fees for environmental review. These clients are reviewing these requests at this time. HER:ml CC: Richard Carr Sincerely, O.Q./ILUlr<1.P III ". ~ /0n . Henry E. R1t~~J~1 . . . Town Hall. 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Soulhold. New York 11971 TELEPHONE (516) 765-1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD :'\ugust 4, 1989 John J. Hart ?elletreau & Pelletreau 20 Church Street Patchogue, NY 11772 TIE: Marina Bay Club SCTM #1000-117-8-18 Nor=is)Carr/Wanat SCTM nOOO-122-:,)-4 ::Jear t1r. Hart: We are in receipt of your letter of AUgust 2, 1989 in regard to the above. ~h~ books where checked again and it was fou~d that a total of $4,OOQ.00 was received for environmental =eview of Marina Bay ~lub. Therefore, a balance of $1,970.00 is owed. Enclosed please find a letter addressed to Szepatowski Associates requesting back up information for the all the invoices on Norris/Carr/Wanat and Marina Bay Club. you. Upon receipt of this information, it will be fonlarded to // truly yours ,;Y ~/ t7~-<"",1flij~~. BENNETT ORLOWSKI,JR. CHAIRHAN ~c: Ja~es A. Schondebare, Town Atto=ncy Henry Raynor . . . ~ PETER V SNYOE:R JOHN.J HART JOHN.J ROE. ill ~REDERIC L ATWOOD BRUCE: T_ WALLACE Io([VIN A. SEAMAN VANESSA M. SHEEHAN" BENJAMIN L HERZWEIG PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW 20 CHURCH STREET- BOX 110 PATCHOGUE. NEW YORK 11772 TEL. 515 447.8900 FAX 516 475-5651 ROBERT S. PELLETREAU 11881-19431 RICHARD A. SCHOENFELD 1'950-19801 ROBERT H. PELLETR[AU OF COUNSEL BRIAN McCAFFREY" 447-8906 .ALSO ADMITTEO IN FLORIDA "ALSO ADMITTED iN ILLINOIS Octobe~ 26, 1989 Town of Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New Yo~k 11971 Att: Planning Depa~tment Bennett O~lowski, J~., Chai~an Re: Envi~onmental Review Fees fo~ Marina Bay Club and Norris-Carr-Wanat Dea~ Chai~an Orlowski: On August 7, 1989, we had received you~ lette~ dated August 4, 1989 regarding the balance of the monies owned for M~. Emilita's ~eview of the Environ8ental Impact statements for the above-named p~ojects. At that time, you stated that a balance of $1,970.00 was owed on the Karina Bay Club p~oject. The balance listed fo~ the No~~is-Car~-Wanat ~eview was $5,420.00. Howeve~, we info~ed you on August 24, 1989 that our client had al~eady made payments on that p~oject totaling $2,000.00. Are we correct in assuming that that $2,000.00 may be deducted from the $5,420.00, therefore leaving a balance of $3,420.00? Ou~ client would like to send the Town checks for the balances owed, but it cannot do so until we a~e ce~tain of those amounts. Please advise if you have had any ~esponse f~om Szepatowski Associates to you~ lette~ addressed to them dated August 4, 1989 ~ega~ding backup info~tion for thei~ invoices on ou~ client's p~ojects. We app~eciate you~ coope~ation and look forward to hea~ing f~om you. Thank you. Very t~uly you~s, '~:'~~:'='" . 12J.at JFH:ma cc: Richa~d T. Ca~~ Hen~y Rayno~ James A. Schondeba~e, Esq. 000lU/58 ) SJ;U SlfPATOWSKI ASSOCIATES INC. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS -- . . . S41 r-- INVOICE !m -~ ~ ~ I; !~ -:";:J ...J.., 'r;-i-~::::'.:' is '1,11 illlii 'Ii! /; I~i I I PSOUTHOtD TGWN LANNING B04RO Mr. Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Planning Board Chairman Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, NY 11971 DATE January 30, 198' NUMBER DESCRIPTION AMOUNT Angel Shores $ 400.00 Cove Beach Estates $ 460.00 $2930.00 $ 150.00 Tidemark FEIS Marina Bay Club DEIS TOTAL M10UNT DUE = $3940.00 PAYMENT DUE UPON RECEIPT THANK YOU . . INVOICE -- SAI ,. SZEPATOWSKI ASSOCIATES INC. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS;. i;;Jo ill@ill I] \if I~ . ~jl IUI~il!'- I '-I I " ~ ~ :':'-.iL:;\7~':".:;""'.-~':"-'--"'~""'" . .....n~~._~': :,_:;_,~_~!: DATE Mr. Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Planning Board Chairman Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, NY 11971 Februarv 28, 1989 NUMBER DESCRIPTION AMOUNT Angel Shores ..................................... Cedarfields ...................................... Cliffside ........................................ Cove Beach . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Marina Bay Club FElS ............................. Tidemark FEIS .................................... TOTAL AMOUNT DUE = PAYMENT DUE UPON RECEIPT THANK YOU $ 75.00 $ 40.00 $ 200.00 $ 680.00 $2915.00 $ 745.00 $4655.00 t/ -- · 3flu / SZEPATO\\ Il.:ASSOClATES INC. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS . . INVOICE SfJ~ Mr. Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Planning Board Chairman Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, NY 11971 DATE March 28, 1989 NUMBER DESCRIPTION AMOUNT Angel Shores............. ....... ........................................ $ 240.00 cedarfields...........................~.............. $ 400.00 Cove Beach............. ......... ...... ............................... $1,500.00 Marina Bay Club..................................... -'~-.. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. $1,310.. 00 The Hamlets.................................................................................... $ 60.00 Total Amount Due = $3,510.00 Payment Due Upon Receipt THANK YOU . /..,. 11 Y:i . SZEPATOWSKI ASSOCIATES INC. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS . . . INVOICE ;""'~1].. '''''1 .' '\....' IJ' Mr. Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Planning Board Chairman Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, NY 11971 DATE April 27, 1989 NUMBER DESCRlrnON CORRECTED INVOICE AMOUNT Cove Beach Estates FEIS.............................$4790.00 Marina Bay Club FEIS................................$ 160.00 Hanauer/Bagley LEAF............... ................. .$ 500.00 Total Amount Due = $5450.00 <~ Ill! ~.f-J~ SZEPATOWSKI ASSOCIATES INC. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS .... . . . SAJ~ I~ --' r:; r;ol f~_: f] \'11 i~ 1'''''\111 Cll.l:'JL I_.;;~ll .,., p ~ I ~EG:; lJ..d l~ VOICE SOUTHOLD TOWK PlANKING BOARD DATE 12/29/88 Mr. Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Planning Board Chairman Southo1d Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southo1d, NY 11971 NUMBER DESCRIPllON AMOUNT Cedarfie1ds/Moores1and $ 35.00 C1iffside/Tidemark $ 3S.00 Cove Beach Estates $ 315.00 Marina Bay Club $ 175.00 Norris Property: Carr-Wanat $ 315.00 Hamlet at Cutchogue $ 590.00 DBM Subdivision $ 35.00 Angel Shores $ 280.00 TOTAL AMOUNT DUE $1780.00 Payment Due Upon Receipt. Thank You. S41 SZEPATOWSKI ASSOCIATES INC. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS I 1 . . ". ... . ., , INVOICE 541 Mr. Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Planning Board. Chairman Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, NY 11971 DATE November 28, l' NUMBER ... DESCRIPnON AMOUNT Angel Shores Cedarfields/Mooresland $ 70.00 $ 170.00 $ 710.00 $ 800.00 $ 100.00 $ 1185.00 TOTAL AMOW,T DUE = $ 3035.00 C1iffside Cove Beach Estates Marina Bay Club Norris Property/Carr-Wanat PaymE~t D~e Upo~ Recci~~ ':'hCr,~:~ "Ol; TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, COUNTY OF SUFFOLK, N. Y., Dr. .?1;~~~............:. ......'........ ....... y.....ty.<;~!'.~..~~... .... J~.~.~.. To.. ~.~?.I??.~?.":'~.~~.. ~~~.'??~?~?~!.. ~.~?:..................................... Claimant Address. ~7..~~~~~~~~~~~~.. ~~~~~::. .~~:~.:~":~:. .~~... .~~.~~.~.............. . I . Review of the following DEIS as per the resolution nf' th" Pl.~~' Qn .,.,. Marina Bay Club: .... , - . 'Pla.nner -- .~ ..- - _--0 $ $ 00 ' -- ., 'Envirorirililntal 2.0/hrs @ 50. 00 100. ..... TOTAL AMOUNT DUE = I I $ 100. 00 U Fed. I. D. No. ............................ or Soc. Security No. ................. The undersigned (Claimant) (Acting on behalf of above named Claimant) does hereby certify that the (Cross out one) 10""'0' ,I"m ;, u" ."" '''~ '0' .,,, 00 "" ,""001 , ""'" ,,!d. ~"~ 00' ~,:::.::::.::.~:=;::.~:::::."" ow;o....................~u........................................ Signature .\ . . . lli @ ~ 0 W ~ ,lli\\ .", ,.. ',.' "'8 1: I; I~ ~jGT L :J :::;--::;1 i t....l ~ ~ ~ INVOICE . . SAlI ._ SZEPATOWSKI ASSOCIATES INC. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSUlTAX~. ~I ~ ---" SQUTHOLO J9V~N . 'I"G I.HI~<l,) P\.~Nf, " ~~;_......... Mr. Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Planning Board Chairman Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, Ny 11971 DATE October 25, 1988 NUMBER DESCRIPTION AMOUNT Angel Shores $ 35.00 C1iffside $ 70.00 Cove Beach Estates $ 70.00 Marina Bay Club $ 35.00 Norris Property/Carr-Wanat $ 700.00 TOTAL AMOUNT DUE = $ 910.00 PAYMENT DUE UPON RECEIPT THANK YOU -. . . ; ~. S41 SlEPATOWSKI ASSOCIATES INC. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS S41 CB WI & @ TOWN BOARD DATE 8/26/88 NUMBER Mr. Bennet Orlowski, Jr. Planning Board Chairman Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, NY 11971 DESCRIPTION Angel Shores August Acres Harold Reese/Cove Beach Norris Property/Carr-Wanat Marina Bay Club Cedarfie1ds Gazza/Lettieri TOTAL AMOUNT DUE = PAYMENT DUE UPON RECEIPT THANK YOU --.~.---_..__.__._-_._.-._-.~- ---.-.--........-... -'.'. . '.. ~.~.~~~~~.~~....... ........................, N. Y..... ~~9:';1.~:t:.... ......... HI..~.~. TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, COUNTY OF SUFFOLK, N. Y., Dr. To. .S.:<\l':p.9."c.QWI'iK.i. .Jl.I'i~.o.G.i.at,eR4" .I.n.GA............................ . Claimant Address. .?J.. ~~;-.J; ~g ?J;l.~~~ t:. Jl.x~J;l.\l~ J.. .q.~fl1~ !>J.9ml/.. .~.J;.. 9.?e.4:'i... - Review of the followincr DEIS as OF!r t,h.. - resolution of the p'~nn;n~ c.n~y". - Marina Bay Club: - pY;n~;~~' p'"nn~Y , I1/hy a $ 70 00 S 70. 00 - TOTAL AMOUNT DUE = $ 70. 00 II , II I . .Fed. J. D. No. . ............................. or Soc. Security No. ................. The undersigned (Claimant) (Acting on behalf of above named Claimant) does hereby certify that the (Cross out one) foregoing claim is true and correct and that no part thereof has been paid. except as therein stated. and August 26 SS hJWr h. 1 r;: Dated .............................................19............ ~ ,"" 'h. """re ,""." ""'" " ~"'''' do< "d OW"':......... m.....:......~..,.. ................:....................... ature . ...._. SA~ SZEPATOWSKI ASSOCIATES INC. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS .. . . . INVOICE 'C!' IV' ~JJ Southold Town Planning Board Southold Town Hall Main Road Southold, New York 11971 DATE 7/5/88 NUMBER DESCRIPTION AMOUNT Angel Shores $ 1515.00 $ 85.00 $ 620.00 $ 790.00 $ 690.00 $ 35.00 $ 685.00 TOTAL AMOUNT DUE $ 4420.00 August Acres Harold Reese/Cove Beach Marina Bay Club Tidernark/Cliffside Cedarfields/Mooreland Norris Property/ Carr-Wanat Payment Due Upon Receipt. Thank You. -.e . . . SJJ~ SZEPATOWSkl ASSOCIATES INC. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS ~ [~Llrl _y-jl1 MAY 4 1988 INVOICE DATE Mr. Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Planning Board Chairman Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, NY 11971 5/3/88 NUMBER DESCRIPTION AMOUNT Tidemark/Cliffside DEIS ......................... Marina Bay Club DEIS ............................ Harold Reese/Cove Beach Subdivision ............. Angel Shores - Wetlands Inspection .............. Payment Due Upon Receipt. Thank You. $ 255.00 $ 125.00 $ 355.00 $ 35.00 $ 770.00 ~.. TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, COUNTY OF SUFFOLK, N. Y., Dr. A: '\9~\3 \'f\\\'< To....... .?~.~P.? j:.?:-:.,?~~.. f....'?~9.c;:.~!'f~~.~.,.. ;1;1;1.9.,...... .... ..... ....... .Claimant Southold ..................................................., N. y......!\p.J;A.~..............I5UI.6.. . Address.....~ ~. .~.<.t.~~~'!.<.t~~~.~.~.. ~Y.E!'.'!-~~!.. .-!.~~E!'.!?i;~~~!.. ~~....q ~? ~ 5 . Fed. I. D. No. .................................... or Soc. Security No. ........................ I .. . Review of the following DEIS as per the resolution ~<' <-ho ol~~~,~~ "~~~rl. Marina Bay Club Environmental Planner .... . 2.5 hour @ $50 .00 $ 125 00 /I /; /,' Ib ( C;;~L / . . ,"., :r!' './~/~ . . I The undersigned (Claimant) (Acting on behalf of above named Claimant) does hereby certify that the (Cross out one) foregoing claim is true and correct and that no part thereof has been paid, except as therein stated, and ::,::h'~'.~:;h';';"'""';,.,,."::y~':.:."' OW;""~...I ~............ C:lgnature SAU SZEPATOWSKI ASSOCIATES INC. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS -- . . .~~ INVOIa Still DATE 2/1/88 Southold Planning Board Southold Town Hall Main Road Southold, NY 11971 NUMBER DESCRlrTlON AMOUNT Professional Planning Services: "' Tidemark DEIS review .......................................... $ 420.00 Angel Shores DEIS review ..................................... $ 35.00 Marina Bay Club DEIS review .................................. $ 140.00 Carr-Wanat Change of Zone .................................... $ -il-Hl. gg )/ ~.>.;;(. /-':;' .__- , "_ <'4 i I ".;'-'v' ~ $ 805.60 SCfS - ;;>;..~;>/(,- /~_' ~'rV ~.v ..t../ I' ".;J1r;'y;'j;/ . .'-:'; '..... ,VV' ",,-/"-' ,c..- \ I . . ..;/1 / <';..,,~, RECEiVED DY ~rl''''"' n -I' ,"" f,' " . " r''"'~ l,;",ulhLLlJ t.....; ~w.u,...u i.::I,;,;J FEe -tJ2fiL D.'", ". . .:~",~ / .~ " . '.,:;SZE . Ol'/SKI AS OC~AT . . ..; DAILY TIMESHEET . E~lPLOYEE:. . .d:L.~ -. DATE:~7/89 ~ICt'..Em; l(+ZZ PROJECT:, HOURS: BRIEF DESCRIPTIOtI; tvlaJU~ ~'A ~. 2 ~ }&'"lSJCl ~ N. '. '~I! ,-, lID'!::;. 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JJ~V6fl'" ue VP TO :Df.Jre o/J -n+e..57f3TUS of 1J..J/q-r APt:bllCAT1O,V. wi'T"Halr BeiNG- c/,f.,IJf>.7Hy IHS ~s- IS JHIir- iHe APPd./CRIJOI0 WAs l)CAJISD II.) 1'J.fe SPRJi..J6-0F Jq8'{. me PEP.~ IS c.4J1qeGC qF THe "EevISW wl"ls G~. GE.88GT: 7J..(C. AP~ AJVLU~~e /FlLe J-JVHB&e )tv -rue w,4rc ~ IUI'WAGCJ.-lfi.1J"r OrF/i::.G OF TJ.JE SUFRl:.U:.. Qa)kl1}' ~L:nf DCPl4env/(;;;J<,;n- is ClO - 88 -0/3. .JtEt<E. 15 W~,qT X ~D dl Ice 7!> ~t..GSr O~ .BCHffl-F dF "TH-S klew SVFFaJ,.Jr::. CJVIC. ...-"'rSSDCIIQ7k:>IJ. "10 AATE '1H€a:.. t.:> NO We,.,.,el0 1~.c.H::}f'r FflOtt-t YNe SVFFbu=. caVA.rry HEI1t..m DEPAerMS1JT": OFFICS of WI9.5TE:!' Wl']~~ MA7\l1'!6c.- MeNr I'" TJJe: rLIFIeJIVIi-.B,q Y .C W.B 7=1 c.s ('89 _ l:9q) I i...J TH& ~ 77J~1J P(.JqfVN/Ne,.. Jt1.A,Q.D OFFicE. .:r tt~)ALLy CJ-I~.c~ED -nJ/S riCE. 0"; Nc:wC'~B&:. Z/, 1989. .r 7HINr;:.. IT IS IAI~vr 77-Ir:rr .st.tff ft e&0012-r- BE 010 F/L€?" 'IV )Ove. tJPFII:.E. v.t::)U.U) YCllA 'P.&:pvesr s,qM6 Ft!LD1-<. IUe. SUPFa:.U:. wv.vry HEA(.,..7Tf .DSPlleJM~W- OFFICEi'" OF WASTe WiCiu".R. /Ll14kJAGSM8-"r? J::T is MY ~ -rHRr ycu WILL.. 1:0 THIS R:Je ~Ie. OWN 11VPi:}e.AAFmc-.J AND J),q.m. ~VOLb >tM ALSO ~ A cOpY O. a\.ta+ .4 12ER:::;J2"r Tl) JUS A, .B::Jx =1Cf, AJE;WcSr/FFi!::RK:., uqS70! 7HAA.Jfc.. YCM, IN ADV~.vtE"", Fat:. CdMPLyo../& WIT1t- riA Y R&;>uesr. :t. ",l,a:JJ<. fbWfie.o -ro HSFlellJ 6- -:peor....-t Yt1l.-l {N nil;; "iE:1'l e -=PVTU (26. ..s1A1ce~~ '.../II_~- ~---~ -PeES f l::IEJIJr .'t .. PETER V. SNYDER JOHN J. HART JOHN J. ROE, !II FREDERIC L. ATWOOD BRUCE T. WALLACE KEVIN A. SEAMAN VANESSA M. SHEEHAN" BENJAMIN L. HERZWEIG PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW 20 CHURCH STREET - BOX It 0 PATCHOGUE, NEW YORK 11772 TEL. 516 447-8900 FAX SIES 475-5651 ROBERT S. PELLETREAU (1881-1843) RICHARD A. SCHOENFELD (1'&0-19801 ROBERT H. PELLETREAU OF COUNSEL BRIAN McCAFFREY" 447-8906 "ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA .'ALSO ADMITTED IN ILLINOIS lJL, I ~" 0 !SSg Oetober 26, 1989 1, Town of Southold Town Hall 53095 Kain Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, Wew York 11971 Att: Plannill& Department Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman Re: Environmental Review Fees for Karina Bay Club and Worris-Carr-Wanat Dear Chairman Orlowski: on August 7, 1989, we had reeeived your letter dated August 4, 1989 regarding the balanee of the monies owned for Hr. Emilita's review of the Environmental Impaet statements for the above-named projeets. At that time, you stated that a balanee of $1,970.00 was owed on the Karina Bay Club projeet. The balanee listed for the Worris-Carr~anat review was $5,420.00. However, _ informed you on August 24, 1989 that our client had already made payments on that project totaling $2,000.00. Are _ correct in assuming that that $2,000.00 may be deducted from the $5,420.00, therefore leavill& a balance of $3,420.00? OUr client would like to send the Town checks for the balances o_d, but it cannot do so until _ are certain of those amounts. Please advise if you have had any response from Szepatowski Associates to your letter addressed to them dated August 4, 1989 regarding backup information for their invoices on our client's projects. We appreciate your cooperation and look forward to hearing from you. Thank you. Very truly yours, ~~~' JFH:ma cc: Richard T. Carr Henry Raynor James A. Schondebare, Esq. 000lU/58 . . . Town Hall. 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold. /l.'ew York 11971 TELEPHONE (516) 765-1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD :>\.ugust 4, 1989 John J. Hart ?elletreau & Pelletreau 20 Church Street Patchogue, NY 11772 RE: Marina Bay Club SCTM *1000-117-8-18 Norris/Carr/Wanat SCTM >>1000-122-5-4 :;)ear Mr. Hart: We are in receipt of your letter of August 2, 1989 in Legard to the above. The books where checked again and it was found that a total of $4,000.00 was received for environmental review of Marina Bay Club. Therefore, a balance of $1,970.00 is owed. Enclosed please find a letter addressed to Szepatowski ~ssociates requesting back up information for the all the invoices on Norris/Carr/Wanat and. Marina Bay Club. Upon receipt of this information, it will be forwarded to you. ~c: Ja~es A. Schondebare, Town Attorney Henry Raynor . . -. . . . . PETER V. SNYDER JOHN J. HART JOHN J. ROE. III FREDERIC L. ATWOOD BRUCE. T. WALLACE KF;VIN A. SEAMAN VANESSA M. SHEEHAN. BENJAMIN L. HERZWEIG PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW 20 CHURCH STREET- BOX 110 PATCHOGUE. NEW YORK 11772 TEL. 516 447-8900 ROBERT S. PELL.ETREAU C1881-18431 RICHARD A. SCHOENFELD IISSO-leeOI ROBERT H. PELLETREAU OF COUNSEL FAX 516 475~5651 >OOWGLAS J. LEROSE BRI"N McCAFFREY" JAMES G. HYLAND 447-8906 '., --""-1~"'-"'''''~"'~'-' i! .ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA "ALSO ADMITTED IN ILLINOIS til" ~; .('''] - 3 JiJQ . r,...., August 2. 1989 Town of Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold. New York 11971 Attn: Planning Department Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman RE: MARINA BAY CLUB (SCTM *1000-117-8-18) - and - .. NORRIS/CARR/WANAT (SCTM ilOOO-122-5-4) Dear Mr. Orlowski: We are in receipt of copies of your letters to Mr. Raynor dated July 26, 1989, regarding our client's outstanding bills for environmental reviews. Your prior letter to him of June 19th. 1989, listed the various dates and fees submitted to your department by David Emilita for services rendered. However, many of the dates submitted by Mr. Emilita for the Marina Bay Club review have no explanation of the charges and none of the dates for the Norris/Carr/Wanat review have any explanation whatsoever. They are listed as follows: Marina Bay Club Date Fee Explanation 211/88 $ 140. DEIS Review 5/3/88 125. DEIS 7/5/88 790. 8/26/88 70. 10/25/88 35. 11/88 100. 12188 175. . . PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU Page 2. August 2. 1989 Town of Southold Marina Bav Club - Cont'd Date 1/30/89 3/1/89 3/28/89 4/27/89 TOTAL: Norris/Carr/Wanat Date 7/88 7/88 8/88 9/88 10/88 11/88 12/88 , TOTAL: . . Fee Explanation 150. 2.915. 1.310. 160. DEIS FEIS FEIS $5.670. Fee Explanation $ 685. 1.200. 900. 435. 700. 1.185. 315. $5.420. Your letter states that a total of $3.970.00 is owed on the Marina project. Our records regarding payments submitted to the town are as follows: l. On 8/17/87 a check for $2.000 was submitted along with the DEIS. This check was to cover the review of the DEIS. 2. An "augmentation" fee of $2.000 was paid on 2/19/88. 3 . Supplement U was delivered to the town on 3/11/88. 4. Supplement ft2 was delivered to the town on 5/18/88. Therefore. the total paid to the town on the Marina project was $4.000. Has this amount been credited to the applicant and are these charges of $3.970 in addition to the $4.000 already paid? As to Norris/Carr/Wanat. our records indicate that the DEIS was submitted on June 1. 1988. and then again on 8/12/88. The addendum was received by the town on 10/17/88. We have no record of any checks being sent to the town from our office to cover review fees on Norris/Carr/Wanat. The amount listed . . . . PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU Page 3. August 2. 1989 Town of Southold above of $5.420 coincides with the figure in your letter; however. no indication is given as to the services rendered. Before payment is issued. we would appreciate an explanation and documentation of each charge listed for each project. Thank you for your cooperation. very truly yours. r L~ETRE~U & PELLETREAU \ ~. " Q r (iO n J. ar' "1 I '~H: hmm cc: Richard Carr . Henry Raynor James A. Schondebare. Esq. lU/5l-53 .. . ill ~@~~W~,i~ ..u. - 3 f989'" , SOUTHOLD]~--' PlANNING BOARD P. O. Drawer A Jamesport, NY 11947 June 29, 1989 Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman Southold Town Planning Board Main Road Southo1d, NY 11971 Dear Mr. Orlowski: RE: Marina Bay Club 1000-117-8-18 and Norris/Carr/Wanat 1000-122-5-4 Cliffside/Tidemark Please be advised that I have notified by clients with regard to your letter of June 19, 1989 requesting additional fees for environmental review. These clients are reviewing these requests at this time. ~~;9!' HER:ml CC: Richard Carr Town Hall. 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Soulhold. New York 11971 .. TELEPHONE (516) 765.1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD June 19, 1989 Henry Raynor 320 Love Lane Mattituck, NY 11952 RE: Marina Bay Club SCTM i1000-1117-8-18 Dear Mr. Raynor: A review of our books indicates that the fees for the ongoing environmental review of the above-referenced project sUbject to the New York State Environmental Quality Review Act have exceeded the initial monies you have paid to the Planning Board to cover the environmental review. Enclosed you will find a copy of the bills that were sent to the Planning Board by its environmental consultant, Szepatowski Associates, Inc. for the review of the above-named project. It would be appreciated if you would submit the balance, which is $3,970.00, to this office by July 3, 1989. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact this office. Ve~y truly yours,. /' ') ./; f//;i /"" ....- ,,' f" l ,.' ./ /,/ ~ / . . / ,.. / // 1./ L (5 -.,~-- ,I / // i {~( ?-:hj 'I -" r: i,..,;' ;h' 1(// 1,/', ......,,'.~,-"'~ /. ./ l'P , ~ .......,./ . ~ w of .. V ........y(,./1' 4" ~"'" / BENNETT ORLOWSKI,JR. . CHAIRMAN cc: "ames A. Schondebare, Town Attorney John A. Cushman, Town Accountant FOR noomu.m JlELElSB -;1 .lfIlU-.-~-tW ~ [,', i WI ... I ti ~ l'--j SOUTHOlD TOWN ' PlAr,JNll\:G BG.~:rill~~~~> '"~ .. Kay 6, 1ge9 The New Suffolk Civic Association organized a demonstration of New Suffolkers and their neighbors which was held in the rain the morning of May 6, 1989, in front of the New Suffolk post office. The demonstration was timed to coincide with the ending of the public comment period of the U.S..&.rmy Corps of ~ngineers notice that the developer of the old North Fork Shipyard has applied to the Army Corps for its approval of a large-scale redevelopment of the property. The Civic Association has for a number of years advocated a development of modest size thet woult! not dominate the co~ty nor harm its delicate sco-system. Just as steadfastly, the .developer has pushed his ambitious plans which have includs:! such big-city amenities as a three-hundred seat restaurant, berthing facilities for hmdred-foot yachts, and a seaplane tie-up. Lately, his .plans have become noticeably more modest, and there are even rumors in the press that he is attempting to contain the boat slips which he wants inside the boundaries of an le39 New York State grant of underwater land. There is no hard-core evidence that this modesty is more than a trial balloon - there is no evidence of it on file with the Army Corps or at the Southold Planning Board office. The developer has already been at psins to tell a reporter that the site sketch submit tad by the Civic Association to the Planning Board 111 pie-in-the-sky and that he intends not to tak even thou n i . e ss on eant to do by its su s was 0 put an end to its y-saying, and to make it clear that it would like very much to become a positive factor instead - by setting up a dialogue between itself and the developer and the Planning Board so that, just possibly, all interests may be accomodated, and rile and bile put to an end. ~ moomowm .,.. rn SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARO e' , ~.. · 'MI .1fT OF 1NIi ARMY .. ... :C=W'=:.:~:::r:?". OOj' ~ :-;:" :~:. 8 MAY lil89 _u SOUTHOLD TUVlN : Operations Division PLANNING BOARD _ J Regulatory Brall(:h' SUBJECT: Applicat:iotl No. 88-1829-L2 by the Marina Bay C1ub Valerie S<:opaz Planning Bond O:tlfice Town of ~Uthold 53095 Main Road SouthOld, New York 10278 !' ..-~- Dear M.<;. Scopaz: This. is in respopf:le ;t() your Jel,ter dat,!!d Ha:t 4 1989 to this offi~e cqncerning ~he Subject application by the Marine/. Bay Club. Qn M<!W II 1989, thl} processing of the above refereReedawltCation was sQSpended (copy enclosed} as the applieaJ1t has not yet sulaitted the required consistency certification from the New York ~a1:e Department of St:ate Coasta1 Zone Hanag~t Program and water TUllity certificate from the New York State Department of Environalental Conservation to this office. . . In addition, the app1icant has been informed that the Town of Southold Planning Board has specific concerns ;~ld C~ts that need to be addressed before the processing of the application can resume. A copy of your letter _as forwarded to the applicant's agent, B. Laing AssO(:iates. In accordance with Title 33 Code of Federal Regulations 3.20." (6) (j ) ,"processing of. an app:U c:.t ion for a Deparblent of' the .ArIity permit nollltal1y w~ll. proceed concurrently with the processing of other r~ired Federal, state, and/or local authorizations or certifications". EnclOSed, please find a. more legible copy of the drawings sw.itted for the. abov,e referenced application. I~ you have any questions with . regard, : to . this appUeation, please call the~rsignedat (21.2},264-3912. Sincerely, Enclosures . h~~ /li~ Hichael Infurna Projel;:t Manager East-erh Permi t.5 Section .. .;:..........'._......Ji;. .1 .. Operations Division Regulatory Branch SUBJECT: Application No. 88-1829-L2 by the Marina Bay Club Mr. Steven Sinkevich Marina Bay Club 260 Main Street Northport, New York 11768 Dear Mr. Sinkevich: This is in reference to the Subject application to expand an existing marina in Cutchogue Harbor, Little Peconic Bay at New SUffolk, Suffolk County, New York. We have not as yet received the required consistency certification from the New York State Department of State COastal Zone Management Program and water quality certificate from the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation. In accordance with 33 CFR 325.2(b)(2)(ii), and 325.2(b)(I)(ii), no permit will be granted until the required certifications have been obtained or have been deemed waived. Since the required Coastal Zone Management certification and water quality certification have not yet been obtained or deemed waived, and in order to process this application in a timely manner, we are suspending the processing of this application. In addition, a letter dated May 4, 1989 (copy enclosed) from the Town of Southold has been received by this office expressing specific concerns with the proposed project. These concerns voiCed by the Planning Board must be addressed and the aforementioned certifications secured prior to our resuming the processing of your application. You are reminded that a Department of the Army permit is required for this work. The action taken at this time will in no way adversely affect your future request or any other application you may submit for work in waters of the United States. Sincerely, Enclosure Joseph J. Seebode Chief, Regulatory Branch ,- '. .. .- [CENAN-OP-RE iAPPLICATION NO. 88-1829-L2 I PUBLIC NOTICE NO. 13627-88-1829-L2 DESCRIPTION OF WORK , The applicant. Marina Bay Club. requests ~ of the,ArJay I'authorization to expand an existing marina in CUt~ ~llOr~ Llttle Peconic Bay at New Suffolk. SUffolk County. New York. ',' ' " . ", ....'.. "','" . ," .... j The work would involve: , ',:' >'f;:t':;,\ ,":,~:: , - the construction of 450 linear feetdfaew;,~*i'A " ,:1: ibullrhead and the replacS'qsnL of 270 feet of existl.ng_~."~ ;",', ,. '" t . . . '. " . .' ,.-.....,:.....,.,. .....,:-:;:-.:.......,:.-.~::'u,;:.f::i:::.:::~;-::i::}:~',::<'.:'.s't:::'.:-._:'. ;::'.;~t,': - the instaUation of seventy-four (7.,Lt.,i4;i(;~~ bY: < ",'," 35 foot long sliPS. fifty-three (53) 12 foot by 35f~: ifU.~;I~, Mr ' 15 foot by 35 foot sliPS. two (2) 22 foot by 80 fOot'sli.:I;~(2t,z~' tit :foot by 60 foot Slips and two (2) 20 foot by 60 foo't s tPilJ 1:b\''Crea~a:\ total of U7 slips for the entire project; . I ; I - the excavation of an irregularly -""" area :Of":ti11 '", jlto create a total of 22.10~ square feet of open _ter;: , :' ',' I.- . . .. _,i'. ......': -'_ ;'-' ..... . _:: ....:'- ..,-.'~"~,;.-'.:.,.,',J'i"',\-,._;<,:,;,:": t , - the construction of a 5111 foot;: ,I' , 1fixed pier and Geck uong. the 8Ou1:h8rIi '884"'01''''''' . ':'-'-... ...-......c.. ,.,'.- ",'. .' ........ '. ':'.' '.C.',':' c'..' c. .'".':. c.'. ..-'.,....-;"'..'.,.. ....:.,..':.-."-'p',';"..:. > ,:,.--.:-:,.:...,.-,.:.-:;,"./:".-.,:,,-,.,.:;t~,y M' 8 ~oot wide fixed pier al.ong' the' ,~t8I'D :8i'-:,'; . . 1475 foot by 12 foot:(ixed pier on the:o,o~..~,cPQll't , .,. the re~oc::ation o~ existing .riP"':r*" . contour of the proposed :fixed pier to the noxtll; 01' . ','. " - _-I', .' ..... "".., '. .. l'~~i'" _ :..:_-~~;:.J~';:i-( - ...int~;l'Jl.("e4redge .~:irr~~~;, .t;he proposed basin to 10 feet belOW theplaneCJ~t I, .... .... ..' :l'e.oving .approxu.1;elY2~,OOO Cllbic Y<1lX"dSQf",~~, '" 'r" .-at4:tl'ial . vou14~dep<Js:l,.t,ed on. theapplicaut.,'a:f~~~,!f,:t,.'~..~~.:.....f<~,.,,',~..'..~..";.,...,f.,....~....~.. Jrou14 be graded ,and, us~as.. bacl!:fiUftlr the Pl'..~!, ... ". ,.,.' ..... .' . . ;applicant anticipates 4X"edging five times over the Ii: ....h,fi~.~',t.".., r.-wing ilPJ,)roxiJl!Cl.tely 400 cubic yardS per event. Alldtt~.~'tetial., '...... Ifrea subsequent dredging activities would be Pla.ce4ati...!~site' jWhere it would be suitablY retained frea :r.....entel'iDg~_Il't:~cl,...'. i . . ..'..' 'c' '.' i-Install a 170 foot long by 10 footwi~f~Pier iwithdeck to serve as a fueling station and storage ~4t fot-the iprOPOSed marina. '.' I r i~e a~oreaentioned work would be done in associatitln. with UPJ.~ . idevelo~t. ' [The stated purpose of the proposed project is to b1prQV& __~an iexisting marina. I i , .1 I I I , I , 1-----_____--... I I ~ 1 i. f; i , " .., ~, '" " ;;:. " " <>-1 ,*.',"4 "'~~ Q:o.' ::i- g~ ' ~::r:: I . . . .".....~_.__._-.._--_._-_..._-_.._--_.--_.__.._-____._n_._.__ I \G I ',.n ~ "' , rr: () III Ct: ~ uJ ::> -.j ~ /--'\ \l ::l <j '" ", -.c ~'~'"--------'''''''~, " j/ ill. , II; I, ',;<\ L\~--' I I i +1 l ~ -7 I , '" Ii. '3 WJ$ O..L .1.0/1) :.l,S .lS~1.:/ . :2 l ! 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(1~':)(4=;{ :'if'5.,\ S'3 To;.1 J l! n f7 -J.O.O '.....1 ,~tr~ n'l h ii, "J.{).O I i I, II ~ ~ II 'I ~ iI :1 ~ p ~ 1 'I I , - 8.0 vi, ~ lJ ~l/J!:.4bJ i -\ T . r ;~ I I , ,. --' ~_._--+--_._---- I , ~tJol r1.S; ~ =+es MSI- /~ ~ :/!..O'~1.5' c..ONTI/IIUOUS R.C.. C.AP fA Al tL.Tl.5'l MLW . MSl MI.'W' "0.0 r J.?"C'1.5 j ASTMA'~& ..'..:.....~..Ol ,:Ml-W . pUZ, STEEL SHEEr PILE. ASTM A-32..B i I _:..~ .._-...__.._--_.,-~._-------_._- c,!'CTIO~-A' ~~~.tD SECTION VJE.W i 1."- i' IP~cfos.i" i<i:Co'i5TR0C.TiON/ACl>IT"'ON or BULKHf-Ab-piE'R'-'--"IAi>J>~I,.qTI . i ~~:~ : ~~~~~'~~~~i~~Us~~~~R;,~~;~~~.~~~,-OLKL:3_~~ ~.._ . 1 ~l.,~... ~ . !~28-1989 15:42 FROM ~t~soclat~s TO .. P.02 VARII!-S 'el.. <0.50 &l.:+s.'7' i . . i I k '~"'B "i:fI' _ETING 3'\Ur. I r ....4.0 &......0 TO-'O.OCVAW5) . .' .. .... - TYPICAL FIXED STRUCTUREW,lP;EQK I B~,ii L LiA'NC ASSOCIATES ~n ~.n . , . MARINA BAY ct....OOfAT.. SOUTMOLD ~ . ,. NEW SUFF'OLK NIW, YORK ' '-'~"'-""'-';'.-', ..."...,.... ....-, _':'_,' .:-C,. .,..._"'.....,....... ..,....,':.'- 3-~-1'8'9 SJ<. 3Z~2-00a 4 OF' -+ . . ... ----.-. ..--.-.--ct--.-........ .. Southold Town Baymen's Assn. Ine. POST OFFICE BOX 523 GREENPORT, LONG ISLAND, N.Y. 11944 May 4, 19C19 ~ ~@~OW~ rn ..- SOUTHOLO TOWN PLANNING BOARD US Army Corps of Engineers New York District 26 Federal Plaza New York, N.Y. l02fCl He: Public Notice No. 1362'( -tltl-1Cl29-L2 Dear Mr. Infurna, The proposed marina will extend through an entire cross section 01' one of tne most productive scallop beds in the Pe- conic Bay estuary. The marina as proposed will destroy this habitat while simultaneously confiscating PUblic bay bottom. OUr Association is opposed to this project. Furthermore, as CAC cnairaan of Southold Town's Local Waterfront Revitalization prograa, I am well versed with the 44 Coastal Policies of the New York State Coastal Management Program. This proposed project is in contravention with the intent 01' tne Coastal Management program and the 1'ollowing specific policies. #4, #1, # tl, #9, #ltl, #24, #35. Simply put, the size of this ,proposed project is way out 01' scale 1'01' tne New Su1'1'olk area. As designed, it will destroy irreplacable habitat whicn is against the law in N.Y.State. By common sense and by law this project must be rejected. He~~u~ Steve Latson secretarl cc; Mr. Peter Walsh, N.r.S. Uept. of State Southold Town Planning Board ~ fS c:.i2.Jlr- b~ f~ g~- ~ -:- U .:.. t - I Go J J I ~C lID IIJ I i' rr If j .r .I'ffl ffll'Ui'il !':' ,!:~r~ .J ..,. (11 '1:1111,1&1 ~i' {Iliff ! 1 Ii 1 filII'" f " ~ f ~ if I f I 0 i. r:if I. ... 0 ~ .. f;,:.. 0 f'flO ~s: i"'i. 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Laing Associates 260 Main Street Northport, NY 11768 Re: F-87-031 U.S. Army Corps of Engineers/New York District Permit Application /188-1829-L2 (Marina Bay Club) Town of Southold Request for Additional Information Dear Mr. Sinkevich: Pursuant to 15 CFR 930.58, the following data and information is necessary to enable the Department of State to adequately assess the coastal zone effects of this proposed project. The Department of State recently learned that a new application for the above-referenced proposal has been sullnitted to the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. Because of substantial modifications to the project proposal it will be necessary for you to sullnit a completed Federal Consistency Assessment Form (FCAF) and Corps application which reflect the project revisions. Enclosed are two blank FCAF's for your use. Please send a copy of the completed form to the Corps of Engineers, and the original to us. In addition, it will be necessary for us to receive a copy of the Final Environmental Impact Statement before we can commence our review of this project. Pursuant to 15 CFR 930.60(a), the review of your consistency certification will begin after we receive and determine that the necessary data and information is adequate to assess coastal zone effects. Any additional information which you believe will facilitate our consistency review of this project would be appreciated. ..., . .. .. " A copy of this letter has been sent to the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. Please call me at (518) 474-3642 if you have any questions. MC:ak Sin::::l:;~" //~ '/r(//vt/~ ~ U Michael Corey ( Senior Environmental Analyst Enclosures cc: COE/NY District - Michael Infurna NYS DEC/Region 1 - Robert Greene Town of Southold Planning Board - Jill Thorpe _ .. 751 $ ====~~~~-:'.~~U::: Iar-.. cllIIRrr. 1M""" . ........10.. -:e::-r:..,;,;:&.d::=:.U:: t..IllI..........._<<a:eo~M."..I'lIIlI... .....,._.......WClllUlllIllltIlil............... ......_....."...l:I'........ODllMlIIjIllII'lDcII ~~~~:::...~':: --.~....or""""".......~\IPOIl - ==-~~...~~c:-.:INI __~......._"...OuMIlIcIlllllMIIIIII ~-:-crI r ~...:=.-:-~..~ .......~~lIlIldIMIII._......,......,... 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Army Corps of Engineers New York District 26 Federal Plaza New York, N.Y. 10278 RE: Public Notice No. 13627-88-1829-L2 Marina Bay Club New Suffolk, Suffolk County, New York SCTM * 1000-117-8-18 (Our file number.) Dear Colonel Caldwell, Jr., This letter and the enclosed information is being submitted to your office in response to the public notice of April 7, 1989, regarding the above-referenced project. The application before the Army Corps of Engineers has been made pursuant to Section 10 of the River and Harbor Act of 1899 (33 U.S.C. 403) and Section 404 of the Clean Water Act (33 U.S.C. 1344). The information presented here is considered by the Town to be essential to your agency's review of the application. Application for site plan approval of the Marina Bay Club project was made to the Southold Town Planning Board in February 1985. The project was determined to be likely to have a significant effect on the environment. As a result, the .. .. applicant prepared a draft environmental impact statement (DEIS), a copy of which is enclosed. Please refer to the three bound volumes which incorporate the intial draft and the two supplements to the draft. The public comment period on the DEIS ended in January of 1989. However, in January, the Town Board adopted a new zoning code and map which had the effect of rezoning the subject property. The applicant was notified that the FEIS could not be completed until he submitted a new site plan that conformed to the provisions of the new zoning code. To date, a revised site plan has not been submitted to the Planning Board. It should be understood that the revised site plan may require additional environmental review before the FEIS can be completed and accepted for public review. The Planning Board feels that the application before your office is premature given the fact that the Town has not received a revised site plan, and that the environmental review has not been completed. In the interest of coordinated review, it is requested that the public comment periOd on this application be kept open until the Planning Board receives a revised site plan and completes the environmental review of same. At this point, the Board can only convey its main ongoing concerns. It is felt that the proposed extension of the marina will result in an overly intensive use of the site. There are concerns that the navigation of small sail and pleasure boats in the area, (there are small marinas to the north), will be negatively affected by this proposal. Further, the applicant proposes to extend the existing bulkheading to the south for a distance of about 455 feet for a total of about 770 linear feet of bulkheading on 528 feet of shoreline. There is concern about the effect this bulkheading will have on the beachline adjoining the New Suffolk Race. The enclosed DEIS outlines the other concerns of the Board. On another note, the plans that were sent to this office were illegible. It would be greatly appreciated if a more legible copy of the application before the Army Corps of Engineers could be submitted to the Town since both the Planning Board and the Board of Trustees must review them in conjunction with their review of this proposal. If you wish to comment on the FEIS when it is completed, your agency can be placed on the list of coordinating agencies. In any case, the Board urges your staff to review the enclosed copy of the DEIS. .. .. Sincerely, l~~ Valerie Scopaz Town Planner for Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Chairman Enc: cc: Supervisor Francis J. Murphy Frank Jo Kujawski, Jr., President, Board of ~rustees Victor Lessard, Building Department Peter Walsh, N.Y.So Dept. of State Michael Infurna, DoS.Army Corps of Engineers VB l\pn~ ZIl,~'Jll9 T . . . . u. S. Army Corps of Engineers New York District 26 Pederal Plaza New York, N.Y. 10278 ill ~~::~ 1m, .. Attention: Mr. Michael Infurna, Regulatory Branch ;.;)>",. SOUlHOLD TOWN l'lAIlNING BOARD Re: PN13627-88-1829-LZ Marina Expansion New Suffolk, N.Y. On behalf of .the New Suffolk Civic Association, I bring to your attention that there is major concern with respect to the marina expansion depicted on the attachments to the referenced public notice and the proposal has serious implications concerning the rights of the public to use and enjoy bay-bottom lands of the People of the State of New York. The residents of New Suffolk have long strived for the preservation of the historic value of our little hamlet. Ve have closely participated in the regulatory review process at all governmental levels and have clearly expressed that we support reasonable development of the site. The proposal, however, although consistent with our expressed position that the site be utilized for marine purposes, portrays a plan that goes beyond the limits of reasonableness. The outer extremities of the proposed construction are on lands clearly outside the jurisdiction of the upland owner and fall within the jurisdiction of ~ .~ New York State. The Corps maybe unaware of this fact but we hereby advise you that there is an ongoing collateral process being undertaken by the Applicant to gain approval from the Town of Southold for its proposed upland construction. To date, there has been no evidence of any approval which in any way would imply that t~e upla~~ owner has any rights to any lands underwater beyond a grant made by the State of New York in 1838. The attempt by the upland owner to move through the approval process for a project which includes lands outside its jurisdiction could be interpreted as an attempt to blur the issue. Ve respectfully request that the Corps not be party to this and withdraw the application notice and suspend the process until the issue of the land outside the Applicant's jurisdiction is resolved. Ve offer the attached photo copies of a poriion of Supplement No.2 to the DEIS submitted to the Town of Southold which supports our point of view that perhaps the Applicant is playing the game of using one agency against another in the process. Clearly, it is the Applicant'S position, by its own statement (Comment/Response No. 14), that the extent of construction is contingent on the recommendations of the Army Corps of Engineers rather than the limits of the grant lines. Again, we ask that the Corps withdraw the public notice and allow the Town of Southold and the State of New York to exercise their respective authority within their jurisdiction. Please do not disfranchise our little community. 1 ..",=,~ 'c_."_L.,'~'.C'."K..-'~_,~_=:----=::_ "~,.,'::-~.\I,..',i,.j-_F...,;',T"--..~.._..;Ti.Y'"""~ G:?-.'-" .:, -'-~"--;'--'--,.-:::".~:-:,~;-,,,,,~.-,--.," --r- As~ for~the precedent aspect noted above, we believe that the extent beyond the lands under the juris~tion~ the owner far exceed aext. that could be considered reasonable~he ~licant, only consideri he erwater lands east of the 1838 Grant, proposes to appropriate for its use and profit nearly two acres of lands to which it clearly has no rights. The appropriated area is not required for navigation purposes, access or some other reasonable use. It is solely for the exploitation of the Applicant. Yithout this major trespass on to the bay-bottom lands of the people, the Applicant can still functionally double its marine activity at this location. Isn't this more than reasonable? Respectfully Submitted, ~~ Linda Fletcher President New Suffolk Civic Association cc: N.Y.S.D.E.C. N.Y.S.D.O.S. N.Y.S.D.G.S. Suffolk County Planning ~wn ot Southold~ ..:;::r North Fork Environmental ~ ' Joseph Fenton, Esq. Patrick E. Callahan, P.E. Council Certified Hail Returned Receipt -< .=oiii.oc '~"~c....:...:"7'..'';,~;.~__ - ---~~--- =:__==,:__:-::,';'"~.~,'<_.~,=.:='~--:~.n,:..ll.~~};'.,, ..~,.~ ;...,.~, - -~.':-~~;..L~'~:/}:~ The project'S-l:mUnoar~."" 1iJV.~-"~'- --- -~--- area becaus4le the riparian owner is not limited by th~un ies of the grant. ~ ri.ian owners~ave e right to erect wh~es marinas and to use the lands in front of their property lying under the water for the purposes of commerce provided that such use does not impede navigation. (The premises covered by the grant extend 300 feet from low water mark eastward into the bay and are 350 feet in width from north to south.) (See Survey of Roderick Van Tuyl, P.C. dated August 21, 1982 and amended March 7, 1986 and December 22, 1987, included in Appendix A.) A title report was ordered from Chicago Title Insurance Company and a copy is included in Appendix A. . The salient point nf the report is found on the legal description o~ the property which includes "All lands under water as described in grants from the Town of Southold and the State of New York as recorded in the office of the Clerk of Suffolk County in L 510 cp 375 and L 510 cp 373, respectively. The title to this is found by the title company to be in its insured Shamrock Properties. ... The Town Attorney has reviewed the applicant's position with respect to the underwater land and riparian rights and has found that the claims of riparian rights and extensions beyond same appear to be correct. Basically, a ripar- ian owner has a right of access to navigable water so long as his use is reasonable (see Appendix A). Comment No. 14 - Does the owner have the,right to go beyond the grant line? It may impede navigation. Response No.14 - As shown on the site plan the entrance to the marina is in excess of 600 feet, which is double the width of typical marlnd "'.....;;.:.-=os. with this large entrance thp.re will be no impediment to navigation. The project exc~eds the New York State grant lines, however, the boundaries of the grant are irrelevant. No marina may be constructed without the applicant adhering to the requirements of the United States Army Corps of Engineers. Construction along coaptal waterways is governed by their regulations as well as those of other state agencies. The matter of prime importance to these age~cies is that no construction impede 15. '" c"i'll7._ ~.l,'.'~ '".~:.~:.. "._~"-,_..'---rr=:-:-7'-- -;,",\-,I-.~\;:J>l~"'l. l'illiV("~ ="---..,,,,,..; ,_. -:"C;JSlf!' ,,:,~';;k;-~~~ T :--------- ,. r; -- navigatJon. In fact, their construction res- tri~ons make it impossi. f~ny impediment ~to ~igation to occur. ex"ht of construc- ~ion is, therefore, contingent on the recOmmen_ dations'of the Army Corps of Engineers rather than the limits of the grant lines. ..... ~ .~ ""-~ - Comment No. 15 - The applicant states that 14 boats an hour does not produce a very dense traffic pattern. No comparisons are given by way of illustration. Response NO.15 - School House Creek to the north'of the project is capable of handling 20 boats within a 15 minute period with only a 20 foot channel width based upon visual observances in the summer by Henry Raynor, who also has maintained his own slip there for several ~~ar_. Iil Cumparison, Marina Bay Club has' 4 time;' the channel width at 80 feet. Therefore, the estimate of 14 boats per hour can be easily accommodated and will not pose any problem to navigation. ,'il(--- ". - ~..... - - Comment No. 16 - It is recommended that a cross section of the property be prepared to show that all the cubic yards of fill can be accommodated on the site. - Response No.16 - Earthwork calculations and computer-generated cross sections prepared by H2M Group are included in Appendix B and are evidence that all of the dredged material (approximately 21,800 cubic yards) will be utilized as fill the site. - COASTAL ZONE MANAGEMENT/DEC ISSUES Comment No. 17 - Section 4.6, page 4,26 of the DEIS should be expanded to address all relevant State coastal policies. The fOllowing policies should be addressed as part of this section: 7, 11, 14, 15, 20, 33, 34, 35, 38, '44. A Response No.17 - As per the above comment by the Department of State, additional CZM policies that are considered applicable to the project include: 1. Policy #7: Significant coastal fish and wildlife habitats will be protected, preserved, and, where practical, restored so as to maintain their viability as habitats. Reasoning: Portions of Cutchogue Harbor north of the site have been designated by the DOS as a Signifi- cant Coastal Habitat. The Cutchogue Harbor and 16.' _I. ~".,..~,.::.'.J'<~.,~~ :~L=LLr .~_,' J;Ij;J.#;, ,;,,;:.,,",-k:!.~2ti~~"~T- ~L:L Z!H;!!!~,,~il"li~,~ . m & mow ~ rn11 "2,. ;:1' SOUTWJ' .., .".' P! t..;',,'f','; ,\;~' 21 April, 1969 New Suffolk, NY 11956-0224 Regulatory Iranch U.S. ArIrtY Corps of Engineers New York District 26 Federal Plaza New York, N.Y. 10276 Refa 13627-86-1629-1.2 Dear Sir: The application of Yarina Bay Club is disturbing to most residents of New Suffolk primarily because of the size of the proposed development. The size, of course, has a direct bearing on the number of slips the developer wants to provide - 137, not the 117 indicated in the -descriptlon of work" :you append to the public notioe. This quantity means that the slips will enend out into Cutchogul Harbor a tenth of a mile, far be:yong the original 1639 New York State grant line and well be:yond what seems to us to be reasonable. Sinoe the proposed lIlips, groins, and other structures enend be;rond the original State grant, the developer DlUst make application to the State for per- mission to build on the State-owned underwater lands. Tb the best of our knowledge, Karina Ba:y has not done so, and we believe he is putting the cart before the horse in seeking your approval before he has the State's OK. We ask, therefore, that you disapprove the application. ~~~ J .. . ~L fff&fff ---~,- f/ flri ;:' L. ry/ ,.:::: '~ir' ~ APR I 0 1939 P. O. Drawer A Jamesport, NY 11 April 5, 1989 lt~~~I;iOLD To~;J~-.j 11/NG B(lArw -- Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman Southold Town Planning Board Main Road Southold, NY 11971 Dear Mr. Orlowski: I appreciate the time allowed by the Board last evening to resolve the questions raised as to the conformity or nonconformity under the new zoning ordinance of the above captioned project. We are ready to proceed as rapidly as possible upon receipt of your list of elements your Board feels needs to be further addressed. ~elY' ~ ' Henry~1~', Jr. HER:ml cc: Richard Carr John J. Hart, Esq. Sol Niego JAC Planning Corp. ~'l "':.,' " ~'__~ ?g/p'.~r~~~ . @;) We! I ,,'~~ Public Notice IU'R 14_ ilul \ &-,..t, In ,eplylng r.l.r to: I Public Notice No. 13627-88-1829-L2 , Published: 7 APR 89 I'lIF.i) IiiIiIIJ us Amry Cor.- of Engineers New York DI.1rlcl 26 Federal Plaza New York. N.Y. 10278 AnN: REGUL.ATORY BRAN I: " SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD Expires: 7 lolA Y 89 To Whom It Hay Concern: This District has received an application for a Department of the Army permit pursuant to IXl Section 10 of the River and Harbor Act of 1899 (33 U.S.C. 403); L]7 Section 404 of the Clean Water Act (33 U.S.C. 1344). LOCATION: Marine Bay Club c/o Shamrock Properties Corp. Room 1826 350 5th Avenue New York, New York 10118 Marina Expansion Cutchogue Harbor, Little Peconic New Suffolk, Suffolk County, New ----.....--~ , . c, 11 on I' ,", I . I"''''' f, [('I 'I ',::, "1, n , \ ("I~ b '~!J \.:;I.i......_._- ",II:, iJ)r-v--- .;ii',i <;.... " I ~\r' \' , " v''', I ' ,l\l, ILk _J '''~' ay , , ), ,-._..--~~;", "."t I frk C" ".".,,,,\.0:>(\,,,,, '-" t ,~. ..,.:Jt~t.~; "_7:,_,;.':.r.~:) ~O"f." ~1\' .....,;U.,-\\...". . I V~" "-' .... plans of the applicanti,s activity are inclosed APPLICANT : ACTIVITY: WATERWAY: A detailed description and to a&sls~ 1n your review. The decision whether to issue a permit will be based on an evaluation of the probable impact including cumulative impacts ot the activity on the public interest. That decision will reflect the oat '1al concern for both protection and utilization of important resource The benefit which reasonably may be expected to accrue from the act. ',must be balanced against its reasonably foresee~ble detrilllents. AL .tors which may be relevant to the activity will be considered ine _.ng the cumulative effects thereof; among those are conservation, .::.; (-rW.C6, aesthetics, general environmental c.oncerns, wetlands, cultu( - values, fish and wildlife valuea, flood hazards, flood plain values, land use, navigation, shoreline erosion and accretion, recreation, water SG~ply and conservation, water quality, energy needs, safety, food production and, in general, the needs and welfare of the people. ALL COMMENTS REGARDING THE PERMIT APPLICATION MUST BE PREPARED IN WRITING AND MAILED TO REACH THIS OFFICE BEFORE THE EXPIRATION DATE OF THIS NOTICE, otherwise it will be presumed that there are no objections to the activity. Any peraon may request, in writing to the district engineer, before this public DOtice expires, that a public hearing be held tp collect information necessary to consider this application. Requests for public hearings shall state, with particularity, the reasons why a public hearing should be held. It ahould be noted that information submitted by mail is considered just as carefully in the permit decision proceas and bears the same weight as that furnished at a public hearing. NANY FL-129 May 83 t_,:- Regulatory Bi''''\h ~- Public NoUce 'No. i~ 27-88-1829-L2 ~ """' , " J\' ,( ! - Pursuant to Section 7 of the Endangered Species Act (16 U.S.C. 1531) and based upon a review of the latest published version of the threatened and endangered species listing, a preliminary determination ia that the activity under consideration will no~fect those species listed or their critical habitat. ~ II I ' ,- Based upon a review of the lateat published version of the National legister of Historic Places, there are no known sites ~ligible for or included in the Register within the permit srea. Presently unknown archeological, acientific, prehistorical or historical data may be lost by work accomplished under the required permit. Reviews of activ1tiea pursuant to Section 404 of the Clean Water Act will include application of the guidelines promulgated by the Administrator, U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, under authority of Section 404(b) of the Clean Water Act and the applicant will obtain a water quality certificate or waiver from the appropriate state agency-in accordance with Section 401 of the Clean Water Act prior to a permit decision. Pursuant to Section 307(c) of the Coastal Zone Kanagement Act of 1972 as amended (16 U.S.C. 1456(c)), for activitiea under conaideration that are located within the coastal zone of a state which haa a. federally approved coastal zone management program, the applicant has certified in the permit application that the activity complies with and will be conducted in a manner that is consistent with the approved state coaatal zone management program. By this p~bllc notice, we are requesting the state's concurrence with, objection to, or waiver of the applicant 'a certification. No permit decision will be made until one of these actions occur. For activities within the coastal zone of New York State, the applicant's certification and accompanying information is available from, and any comments on, should be addressed :0 the New York State Department of State. Division of Local Government and Communi ty Services, Coastal Management Program I 162 Washington Avenue, Albany, New York 12231 Telephone (518) 474-5063. In addition to any required water quality certificate and coastal zone management program concurrence, the applicant ha:; obtained or requested the following governmental authorizations for the activity ..,oder consideration: Town of Southold Permit New York State Department of Envi ronmenta 1 Conse.... I'tlll Ti da 1 Wetl ands Permit It Is requested that you communicate the foregoing information concerning the activity to any persons known by you ~o be interested and who did not receive a- copy of this notice. If you have any questions concerning this application, you may contact this office at t '''phone (212) 264- 3912and ask for f1r. Michael Infurna. 2 Incla: 1. DescriptJon of Work 2. Drawing(s) Marion L. Caldwell, Jr. Colonel, Corps of Engineers District Engineer 2 NANY FL-129-1 tAay 83 --- ~ .. .. CENAN-OP-RE APPLICATION NO. 88-1829-L2 PUBLIC NOTICE NO. 13627-88-1829-L2 DESCRIPTION OF WORK The applicant, Marina Bay Club, requests Department of the Army authorization to expand an existing marina in Cutchogue Harbor, Little Peconic Bay at New Suffolk, Suffolk County, New York. The work would involve: the construction of 450 linear feet of new timber bulkhead and the replacement of 270 feet of existing bulkhead; - the installation of seventy-four (74) 12 foot wide by 35 foot long Slips, fifty-three (53) 12 foot by 35 foot Slips, four (4) 15 foot by 35 foot Slips, two (2) 22 foot by 80 foot Slips, two (2) 22 foot by 60 foot Slips and two (2) 20 foot by 60 foot Slips to create a total of 117 Slips for the entire project; - the excavation Of an irregularly shaped area of fill to create a total of 22,100 square feet of open water; the construction of a 518 foot long by 12 foot wide fixed pier and deck along the southern end of the project, a 470 foot by 8 foot wide fixed pier along the western side of the marina and a 475 foot by 12 foot fixed pier on the northern portion Of the site; - the relocation of existing rip-rap to fOllow the contour of the proposed fixed pier to the north of the site; - maintenance dredge an irregularly shaped area within the proposed basin to 10 feet below the plane of mean low water removing approximately 22,000 cubic yards of material. The dredged material would be deposited on the applicant's upland property where it would be graded and used as backfill for the proposed bulkhead. The applicant anticipates dredging five times over the life of the permit removing approximately 400 cubic yards per event. All dredged material from subsequent dredging activities would be placed at an upland site where it would be suitably retained from re-entering the waterway. - Install a 170 foot long by 10-foot wide fixed pier with deck to serve as a fueling station and storage pumpout for the proposed marina. The aforementioned work would be done in association ~ith upland development. The stated purpose of the proposed project is to improve and expand an existing marina. r-- ~ , "I.r I (f) I 'v n ,.Ii c~_ '" I " ,., -<. 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STEEL SHEE:T PILf ASTM A-~2.B ~ 5TE~L. rv11/~ SHrE'T Pili:: i jl :Vr 111' ~~HLc ROD i\C" ;---.---" ! ( .' , ",. "]'1 . ~.:.' "0'_ I....... ~'i--" /,:+- WA~E. ~.: J .~ ~'"" 'l -' ~ w,:r.1 ; ':"L~B.2 i : r/oLW ' , 7~-! SELTION A-A __._ ~~~~-I'li · SECTION VIEW' ___'..,.--______... t'" '1',... ," " I ,'.:"" ,_./~".': :.,!'.,r./..U.;;.:.,lilC..:, '.;r h',:LkltUl,D ?!E.R ,.AF>P/..IC.A"'O~"''';"1~- . '1 -,",.' . , L~~~' I ,-~t,::. IN: C',JT[f-lo(.;ui:- HARBOR ,1-" ':E\\,f S\,'!="POl..+<1 ..L.:..:..U;.=-..>...i~~I-J~:...~ CQ;..'.r:""{: t.uFFOLI, .srATE.:N-Y. I, .3 O~ 4- B.Lainq Associates 260 Main street Northport, New York ., : _,__ ',,' ...___, _ _.UL_, ~ .. .. i'lAR-2:3-1989 15:42 FR01 B.Laing Associates TO P.02 VAR'E-5 .M....:l. L .0.0 .~,o- X-BRACI",a VERY OTHER a&NT ~L.. <0.$0 ~L.~S."'~ WAl.IiiS f/x~ SHEETING ;'''11'' &L.-4.0 &L.-8.0 TO -IO.O{VARIE-S) - l TYPICAL FIXED STRUCTURE W/OECK B. LAING ASSOCIATES _~an Houten MARINA BAY CLUB ASSOCIATE$ SOUTHOLO TOWNSHIP , NEW SUFFOLK ~f:W YORK ~-~-I')S') 4 uF "". 51<. 32~2. -00'2. .. .~f~ MEMORANDUM TO: Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman Members of the Town Board FROM: Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner ~S April 7, 1989 DATE: RE: Marina Bay Club On Wednesday, April 5th, Henry Raynor and Richard Carr stopped by the office and asked for further clarification of both the Board's letter of March 29th, (in which the Board asked them to submit a revised site plan in conformance with the new zoning code) and the dialogue Henry had with the Board at the public meeting on April 3rd. I indicated that the primary reason they had not been sent a letter itemizing necessary revisions was that they had to determine whether they wished to keep all their non-conforming uses (using existing footprints) or not. Further, since their (Raynor's and Carr's) decision might affect the general concept of the site plan, there was no point in making specific reference to deficiencies in the old site plan under the new code. The architect who drew up the revised site plan would be able to bring it into compliance by reviewing the new code. Both Raynor and Carr agreed that they would review the status of the non-conforming uses und~r the new code, then would make a determination on how to proceed with the revisions. I mentioned that if they wished to submit sketches prior to sUbmitting a detailed plan, that I would look them over to see if they were in compliance with the new code. cc: Raynor Hart , . (' . . 1 .~ PETER V. SNYDER .JOHN,J. HART ,JOHN,J. ROE. III FREDERIC L ATWOOD BRUCE T. WALLACE KEVIN A. SEAMAN VANESSA M. SHEEHAN' BEN,JAMIN L. HERZWEIG PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW 20 CHURCH STREET- BOX 110 PATCHOGUE. NEW YORK 11772 TEL. 516447-8900 FAX 516 475-5651 ROBERT S. PELLETREAU 11891-le431 RICHARD A. SCHOENFELD C 1950-19801 ROBERT H. PElLETREAU OF COUNSEL DOUGLAS.J, lEROSE BRIAN McCAFFRf:Y ,JAMES G. HYLAND 447-8906 ill ~ @ ~ D W ~ r;:!l ,~ .. .! ; . 'ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA April 4, 1989 APR - 6 1989 SO::T:~;- Pi' Town of Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Attn: Chairman Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Chairman of the Planning Board Re: Marina Bay Club, New Suffolk, New York SUffolk County Tax Map No. 117-8-18 Dear Chairman Orlowski: I am in receipt of your letter dated March 29, 1989 regarding the FEIS on the Marina Bay Club. The FEIS due date was extended by the Board from its original date of February 2, 1989 to April 3, 1989. Since your letter states that the site plan must be revised to conform with the new zoning code under the master plan, we would appreciate knowing exactly what changes are necessary. We have already submitted several supplements to the DEIS and do not think it necessary to prepare an additional supplement. We await your reply. Thank you. Very truly yours, p~r'ETREAU& PELLETREAU JO~~- JFH:ma cc: See additional Rider 0001U/98 " . (" . .: " PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU Rider April 4. 1989 Hon. Francis J. Murphy. Supervisor Hon. Raymond W. Edwards Hon. Jean W. Cochran Hon. Ruth Oliva Hon George L. Penny IV Hon. Ellen Larsen James Schondebare. Esq. Town Attorney Richard Ward. member of the Planning Board Richard Latham. member of the planning Board William Mullen. member of the Planning Board Kenneth Edwards. member of the planning Board David Emilita Judith Terry. Town Clerk Richard Carr Jean Celender Henry Raynor Holzmacher. McLendon & Murrell Att: Sam McLendon Dravo Van Houten. Inc Att: Clem Cameron Niego Associates Att: Sol Niego Dunn Engineering. P.C. Att: Walter Dunn B. Laing Associates Att: Michael Bontje Saland Real Estate Att: David Saland Young & Young Att: Howard Young Valerie Scopaz. Town Planner Robert Berntsson. Esq. lU/3 . fit .. Town Hall. 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold. New York 11971 TELEPHONE (516) 765.1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD March 29, 1989 John ;r. Hart Pelletreau & Pelletreau 20 Church Street - Box 110 Patchogue, New York 11772 Re: Marina Bay Club Site Plan New Suffolk, New York SCTM 11 117-8-18 Dear Mr. Hart, The Planning Board has received correspondence from its environmental consultant, Szepatowski Associates, Inc., indicating that the Final Environmental Impact Statement for Marina Bay Club cannot be completed because the site plan does not conform to the new zoning code, which became effective February 1st, 1989. When the revised site plan is received it will be reviewed in accordance with the findings set forth in the Draft Environmental Impact Statement. The revisions may necessitate an additional supplement or amendment to the Draft Environmental Impact Statement. Upon receipt of twelve copies of the revised site plan, the Planning Board will proceed with the environmental review process. z{L;;~/ t Cha~rm~ ~, - P.S. For ease of review, it would be appreciated if the building footprint of the demolished boat storage building were to be shown on the revised site plan. - cc: James A . Schondebare, Town Attorney Szepatowski Associates, Inc. Henry Raynor NYSDEC, Albany, SUNY-Stony Brook NYSDOS SCDHS Board of Trustees .. . . .. STATE OF NEW YORK DEPARTMENT OF STATE ALBANY, N.Y. 12231-0001 " ;-~ ','.,: ~~ ." .-. .._~_._, n .f It 'B- 3 1989 ,iJ L,~____--.J SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNiNG BOAflD . _..J GAIL S. SHAFFER SECRETARY OF STATE January 31. 1989 Ms. J i 11 Thorpe Southold Town Plannin9 Board Southoid Town Hall 53075 Main Road Southold. NY 11971 Re: 5-87-031 Marina Bay Club - Draft Environmental Impact Statement (DEIS) Dear Ms. Thorpe: The Division of Coastal Resources and Waterfront Revitalization has reviewed the above-referenced Draft Environmental Impact Statement. the Supplement Numbers 1 and 2 and hereby submits comments pursuant to your review under the State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA). 1. Dredging, The amount of dredging should be reduced as much as possible and be conducted in such a manner and at such times as to have minimal effect on the significant fish and wildlife habitat of Cutchogue Harbor. 2. Bulkheading. Bulkheads should be at or landward of the spring high water mark especially to the south of the area where it abuts on the sandy beach. 3. Wetlands. All wetlands in the vicinity must be protected and preserved. 4. Groundwater. What are the potential impacts of the water treatment and sewage facilities on the groundwater level and quality in the New Suffolk area. 5. Topography. How will the cut and fill affect the topography. the water table and the permeability of this site? How would they affect storm water runoff. erosion. etc.? 6. Public Access. All attempts must be made to let the facilities be made available to the general public and not just the customers using the facility. .. .. Ms. J i 11 Thorpe January 31, 1989 Page 2 7. Bulkhead Materials. The creosote treated and pressed lumber may have an adverse effect on the fish and wildlife. This effect should be thoroughly investigatgd. 8. Mitigating Measures. The study should include the possible loss of beaches caused by changes in littoral drift patterns caused by construction of the marina dnd the bulkheads. Thank you for allowing us this opportunity to comment on the DEIS and FEIS. Sincerely, /ltLb~M~ Mohabir Persaud Coastal Processes Technical Specialist MP:dlb cc: CaE/NY District - Michael Infurna NYS DEC/Region 1 - Robert Greene Town of Southold Trustees - Hank Smith POST OFFICE BOX 642 NEW S U F F 0 L K, N. Y. 1 1 9 5 6 mrnrrnOWII CIVIC . . NEW SUFFOLK ASSOCIATION INC. . Jl\N - . 1989 00 January 1, 1989 TO: Chairman Bennett Orlowski and Members of the Southold Town Planning Board Gentlemen: I am writing to you once again to voice protest against the proposed expansion by the Marina Bay Club at the site of the former North Fork Shipyard in New Suffolk. The present form of this proposal, known as the Second Supple- ment, essentially differs very little from the first document, the DEIS, which was presented in August of 1987. The membership (180) of the New Suffolk Civic Association objected to the magnitude of the proposal then and they object now. There are three additional points that I would like to make: 1. At the several hearings regarding this proposal, Mr. Carr's attorney repeatedly emphasizes the economic pressures which require the proposed scope of the project. It is not the problem or respon- sibility of either the Planning Board or the community at large to sacrifice good, sensible planning to the economic interests of a few speculators. If a developer/ speculator errs in his business decisions, that potential loss is his problem and if this poor decision erodes his desired return on investment, it is not for the public to assist him in minimizing this loss at the greater expense of the public good. Perhaps more care and study should have been taken prior to the purchase of this environmentally constrained parcel. 2. Last January (1988) the Planning Board indicated that any FEIS which would be required of the Marina Bay Club would be pre- pared by the Southold Town Planning Board, the expenses to be paid up to a certain level by Marina Bay Club. I attach a copy of the pertinent portion of these minutes of the Southold Town Planning Board meeting, Monday evening, January 11, 1988. The New Suffolk Civic Association feels that this action is extremely significant. It provides the public with an opportunity to study any development on this property from a more balanced perspective. We wish to take this occasion to remind you of this conversation between you and Mr. Hart, the developer's attorney. Should you decide that an FEIS is required, we urge this course of action. . . . . " '- 3. Finally, the limitations concerning the New York State underwater grant, an integral part of this parcel, remain extremely important. A review of New York State cases reveals a history of deciding riparian rights on a case by case basis, particularly in reference to "reasonable" use and "impediment to navigation". Any decisions made in this area demand extreme caution. Thank you for your consideration of these remarks. You can be assured that the interest of this community will be ever present until this matter is correctly resolved. Sincerely, ~d,~ LINDA L. FLETCHER President 2 . J . . :"u\ i < IT! '1 ULu 2 5 1989 ." j L,_,,_,-,.._J \ SOUTHOLD'iC\,,!N : PL'\Nt'ilNG BG;l_P.L..=_~~,.~J _.-~..=~ January 20, 1989 Town of Southold Planning Board Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Dear Sirs: This is a letter of objection to the application of Mr. Carr for the development known as Marina Bay Club, to be located in New Suffolk. Al though I favor some 1 imi ted development in this area, the scope of this project is beyond what is reasonable and prudent. The pro- posed water and sewage plant are experimental and their effects upon the environment are unknown. The tremendous increase in traffic which would be caused by this project would change the character of this locale. Increased demands for municipal services (i.e. fire, rescue, police and sanitation) would cause a further escalation in Town and local taxes. For these and many other reasons, nothing positive can result for this plan as proposed. Please reject this development. very truly yours, ~ ~ c:7'n ffi~ Thomas M. Martin TMM/jpm -...:.:<-- --- -- '. .,. .~ Y~N 0 iI'" , ~ P/~~ 60~ 5'~1i:o.fo/ K: Y ,,- 10C> pJ~. .... a"'f' 3?ea.....- ~;,;~ : tZL. &U. ~ -/.A..( s'r~' .7 i a. /U . /!. 7 ~ k.- ~ *' ~ -fL-',.-) 11&:1 ,[~o J4t.i..Scn.. $"t., Jfft.-u $-!f-t-~ / 9 ~ ~k k(U~ t1A.7 a~---:r ~ -IL ~/~~ 1- ~~. ~ It:< YCI S ~~. ,/:,~ 'ik-J 0- ~ #.. .Mu-:r ])E, S ~s ~ ar~ (-- -/;;0 t:-:,. I,: ~ ~, ~ a- ~a.;tLZ; ~ -itt ~~~ 7h-.. e~ ~ ~~ $U"~ -r;- f1,..t ~ W 6-....01......-0 1r7Y" ;,.;....." . ~ tM~ ~ ~a.;,.. 1 CA- ~ . V,'!fayL ~o-y ~ rf'"oet...e:t-;"" M.u k.v-c r sJ.. . a,...~ fi.t.,;' ;)E, $ --;Y .A-- ~ ~ d~.r 0 Ii,? nv ,-f-e;w o~~. 1~ !-- ..f..a;c ...') -f, .,.u '1........ , /? 'II ,LL -r,........-....." - /,~1--0 o CyY-JL S. t ,.- ( . , . "'"'" . . 1S16.268.5"'55 , ,c,_ ' ",' 1\ Fl.. In- \L SOUTHOlD TOWN PLAN~,i,NG BOARD ". RICHARD T, HAEFELI ATTORNEY & COUNSELOR AT LAW IB4 MAIN STREET P.O. BOX 1112 WE5THAMPTON BI!.ACH, NEW YORK 11978 January 24, 1989 Mr. Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Chairman Southold Town Planning Board 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 Re: Application of Cliffside Associates (Tide Mark) Dear Mr. Orlowski: I have been advised that your Board adopted a resolution on Monday, January 23, 1989, extending the time for you to file the Final Environmental Impact Statement through February 27, 1989. Your Board has consistently failed to meet the deadlines set forth in SEQRA, including (a) acceptance of the draft DEIS, (b) adopting the FEIS after the initial public hearing on the DEIS, and (c) requiring an addendum to the DEIS. In addition, your Board extended the time period for accepting the proposed DEIS, rendering a determination on the DEIS after the original hearing, extended the period for adopting the supplement to the DEIS, and the first 30 day extension for adopting the FEIS. Your Board has failed to adhere to any of the time periods set forth in SEQRA and has adopted a course of conduct in this case of extending every time period set forth in SEQRA and thereafter of failing to take action within the prescribed period. I-J7f'1 \=C0"-iJl;L'e E l' .- . . . . RICHARD T. HAEFELI ATTORNEY & COUNSEL.OR AT L.AW Your Board has had the DEIS in its possession since October, 1987 and has had the addendum, which deals mainly with updating the traffic study, since June of 1988. Further, this property has recently been rezoned under the new zoning provisions and the motel use proposed by the applicant is permitted under the revised code, the same as it was under the prior code. This zoning change occurred after intensive study and review by the Town, including an impact statement under SEQRA. Under the circumstances of this case, I do not believe that the additional extension of time to file the Final Environmental Impact Statement adopted by your Board was reasonable, and accordingly my client will hold your Board to the time provisions set forth in the rules and would expect a final determination on the site plan by February 7, 1989. Very truly yours, RTH:jl cc: James A. Schondebare, Esq. . . . Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 TELEPHONE ('16) 76','938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD January 24, 1989 John J. Hart Pe1letreau & Pelletreau 20 Church Street Patchogue, NY 11772 RE: Marina Bay Club SCTM *1000-117-8-18 Dear Mr. Hart: The fOllowing actions were taken by the Southold Town Planning Board on Monday, January 23, 1989. RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board close the public comment period for Supplement Number Two of the Draft Environmental Impact Statement as of January 23, 1989. RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board grant a sixty (60) day extension from February 2, 1989 to April 3, 1989 for the preparation of the Final Environmental Impact Statement. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact this office. Ve):.y--truly // // / I 1 .'- 7'-,:' \ " &,''----'~.' .,:.;,;.' yours, ..~) /~1 -.., .-1~ ) / / J ,', ;:/" , 0 '.,:,--~ .<.: '." -.--- ,," ~ BENNETT ORLOWSKI,JR. CHAIRMAN cc: David Emilita Henry Raynor jt " . ~ . . New York State Department of Environmental Conservation Building 40-SUNY, Stony Brook, New York 11794 (516) 751-7900 Ms. Jill Thorp Secretary - Planning Board Southold Town Planning Board Town Hall 53095 Main Rd., P.O. Box 728 Southold, NY 10] 18 Dear Ms. Thorp: Attached please find our comments ment for the Marina Bay Club proposal. period and hope that our comments will CJC : j f enc. cc: C. Hamilton file {L '. Dcule i:. t,"'kJ< HjLI't7 ~@~I~~~ ~ J'N~ SO~J~;~~~ig~J Pl"'~'.=- Thomas C. Jorllng Commissioner January 9, 1989 Re: Final Environmental Impact Statement Marina Bay Club to the Final Environmental Impact State- We appreciate the extension of the comment be addressed by the applicant. Sincerely, ~c=~,l,::~ ~ Deputy Regional Permit Administrator . . . . SUPPLEKERT NIlHBER I I. pg. 20 D. Drainage - Section is inadequate. Six new discharge points of surface runoff into "SA" waters will lead to water quality determination. Section should fully describe retention rates of proposed drainage system. Section should fully describe drainage area to utilize drainage system. A tidal wetlands permit will be required for this discharge to surface waters. The system must have a retention cabability of a 1 in 5 year storm to meet permit standards. 2. pg. 21 E. Dredging - Section is inadequate. Alternative dredging depths should be discussed. If one purpose of dredging to obtain fill to raise upland grade, the alternatives of trucking in upland fill should be dis- cussed. Demonstration of need for dredging depths should be demonstrated. Expected maintenance dredging should be addressed. 3. pg. 24 Grading/Aesthetics - Discussion of planting of salt tolerant plant species should be in this section taking into consideration that most of new fill area will be dredge material. Discussion of need for irrigation systems should also be included. pg. 31 Response No. 20 - should discuss technique to be utilized to prevent increased turbidity to surface waters from placement of dredge material drain- ing to Cutchogue Harbor. There also may be runoff from storm events that will erode placed dredge material back into surface waters. pg. 32 dre.dge not be Response No. 21 - Response should indicate why it is preferable to rather truck in fill. Is it economics? The underwater lands should dredged for source of fill (i.e. mining). pg. 35 Response No. 25 - Response is incorrect. Shellfish transplanting or reseeding is the responsibility of NYSDEC in these waters. Shellfish in area to be inpacted by project should be identified and numbers provided. Applicant has no authority over harvesting of shellfish. pg. 35 Response No. 26 - Response is evasive. It should state one purpose of dredging is to obtain fill to raise grade of upland which meets the def- inition of dredging. pg. 36 Response No. 27 - Decanting excess water over dikes will lead to destabilization of dike areas especially during storm events which could lead to overhand erosion and increased turbidity in Cutchogue Harbor. pg. 37 Response No. 28 - "Probable increased pre sense of small fish scavaging among the increased suspended sediments associated dredging." This statement must be backed up by scientific data or removed from document. Current technical data indicate mobile organism will relocate from turbid areas not to be attracted to. pg.. 43 Response No. 40 - Inaccurate response. Owner does not have right to fill area, land is regulated by Article 15 and 25 of the Environmental Conservation Law which indicates filling of these tidal areas are uses which arE! prE!sumptively incompatiblE! with the intent of these laws. . . . . -2- pg. 43 Response No. 41 - Response is inaccurate. Clearly any expansion of docks into scallop areas will hinder commercial harvesting with dredges. Demonstration of salinity change should be documented or withdrawn. Scientific proof of shellfish predators involving area should be provided or withdrawn from response. The project docks and dredging will devalue this areas use for harvesting of shellfish. How is salinity increase related to brown tide? If salinity is on increase in this section of bay, won't the ROS discharge have a cumulative impact to salinity in this area of the bay? . . . . SUPPLEKElIIT NllHBER 2 pg. 19 Response No. 35 - Response states "dredge material will be removed and disposed of in the Town landfill only." This statement contradicts Supplement No.1, Section D, Dredging, which indicates all dredge material to be used as fill to raise grade of project site. pg. 20 Response No. 18 - Comment was a description of impacts to recreat- ional and commercial shellfisheries by marina expansion in the immediate and adjacent areas. Response does not discuss this issue in relationship to marina expansion and should. pg. 21 Response No. 19 - Disagree strongly that a patron only fishing pier will increase public access. In fact, there will be a decreased access to the bay by boaters because of the expanded docks and patron only fishing pier. pg. 22 Response No. 21 - Inadequate, does not address as requested, impacts to beaches by proposed bulkheads. pg. 23 Response No. 22 - Inadequate, does not address as requested possible mitigation for loss of shellfish habitat. pg. 23 Response No. 24 - Inaccurate statements. There will not be net gain in tidal wetlands at project site, but a estimated loss in excess of 5,000 sq. ft. Dredging areas that are currently 6' or less below mean low water to 8 or 10 ft. below mean low water will cause these areas not to be designated as tidal wetlands (littoral zone). Therefore, the increased dredge depth will cause the removal this tidal wetland type from Cutchogue Harbor. pg. 26 Response No. 25 - It is required to provide detailed design of pump- out facility as requested by Comment No. 25. pg. 27 Response No. 26 - Non-responsive. Comment requested whether or not effluent discharge would meet New York State surface water quality standards. "The reject effluent from R.O.S. will, if necessary, be treated. It should be stated whether or not the discharge standards can be met. . . SZEPATOWSKI ASSOCIATES INC. . . S41 S41 ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEERS & lANDUSE PLANNERS Mr. Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman Town of Southold Planning Board Town Hall 531/J95 Main Road Southold, NY 11971 '00"" ,~;: .. IOU; "j""" coco ,'""";L,, E SOUTHOll) TOW~ PlANNING BOAR!) January 11/J, 1989 Re: Marina Bay Club Dear Mr. Orlowski, Due to the fact that the Planning Board has extended the public comment period on the above mentioned DEIS through January 23, 1989 and pursuant to Section 6l7.8(e) (2) (i) of the State Environmental Quality Review we request a six day extension for preparation of the FEIS. Sift-, (,;;; 'I "IB9 Tha,nk you for your consideration in this matter. Sincerely, SZEPATOWSKI ASSOCIATES, INC. C.OfCLc\\~"" Q,~ t>e~ 1)o."'~ e::1'1'\;\~+~ ~'J 4.r~,dn: oi1fi0T) avid J.S Emilita, AICP Principal Planner DJSE/mt 23 Narragansett Ave. Jamestown, RI 02635 (401) 423-0430 Office (401) 423-0037 Fax rn@ rn ~ WI rn ~ JAN 13 m3 ~I 't SOUTHOlD TOWN ,1!lWe the undersigned residents of Ne1I' Suffolk hereby peti 0 UilPJ.anning board to impose restrictions on the size of the propo.ed liarina 'I:BaY Club in order to maintain the essentially small-town atmosphere of our hCOlllllUllity. . . . , .,NAME rv~~~.("~ /V,r,r . 7~~pr >>;~ _ c::kL'4tk. ';.~. /Je.;}. ~ (t, . " ~~o 3~~ ~"\- V\ts:'<.J ~~9J.", ) T~~.. ". ~. /:?'f tf'i I' '] ~rc; ~ v<;;''1 1( I( ~1)- ;>v ~ . L ~~ 7({Iq[uJi~ !:i' ~ --t!- 'tv... <U2- . /:5h J~ 'Sf. Hz.., S..~,f, "-': y. ,I! Kd/~ i/k-. . U-VAY /hvE p~ )uff4;A/~r: Iff.;" i,:[~~~ ~i &~ fclv6-4 W fts: fII~ .0,,~Lk tli:i(l:t" !i~~.~ (j'1'/~~~~ff/ II~~ r~~ky ~i,~lS.~ '/br"lS ~~N.DW~JNt ': 1~~<U.~ C1~LW. ~~~ rue ~ ~ 114) 0 :, "t, t., iil-tf'roo.,.. 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POST OFFICE BOX 6<42 NEW S U F F 0 L K. N. Y. 1 1 51 , 6 '"'~ .. .~'.....~ ~' I' .~-;:- "q r~ c-, u~( i'~~'J '~~I~~~",I L_.,___,__,~_ SUJIHCLD -;.,.,. Pit,}!",:'%;-;' January 21, 1989 Southold Town Planning Board Southold, N.Y. 11971 Re: Marina Bay Club DEIS New Suffolk, N.Y. GenUepersons: This organization wishes to go on record as associating itself with the comment made by Joseph Fenton, Esq. at the recent public hearing with respect to this matter, and to emphasize to the Board thst the overwhelming bulk of the residents of this community share the view that the project, as proposed, is much too big for both the site and our tiny hamlet, and would lead to compromising the quality of life we presently enjoy and treasure so dearly. We reiterate the points made to you in the Association's letter to you dated November 18, 1987. We would like you also to consider the interrelationship between parking and the use of the parking lot to store boats in winter. With a purported maximum of 66 permanent slips and the likelihood that most of the "so-called" transient slips will be used by permanents - these owners will no doubt expect to be able to store their boats at the site in winter. It would be unrealistic aBd foolhsrdy for the marina to turn away this aspect of its busines8, so that the inevitable encroachment on to the parking lot, there being inadequate other room for up to approximately 125 boata, is likely to leave the restaurant short of whatever the parking code requires, at least in winter. A cursory look at this time of the year at other marinas in the community (photographs enclosed) discloses the kind of overflow thst can be expected, and that your Board, in its wisdom, may well like to consider. Respectfully submitted, New Suffolk Civic Association Inc. by 0.1(.t'<!". oI.~ President Sd\(- ~ Dc:>;ve (:. I-di ,c;r - - .... I l ~ -... \o)~@rnuwrn~ l\ill JAN 2 3 1989 ~ SOU1HOLD lOWN PLANNING ~0'o,D .-- ~ - ~. 'l'Y - -- 1 , "' --------- , -.-- D fl ~ fl tiff m,{flll ,j!1N 23/989 Ii ~i;' -:4 ( ~UcL ~ ~ ~~THoLDToWNjL::J! / NING BOARD ! ---I {?u C(., ~~ - ~ -ML i~ i ~ vJ~~..p,~ --m ~ r; ~ ~.. ~(J Ckb- 1J tG~:r-~ vJf'J~r~ ~{L ~ 4 t1A4~~U,' ~ ~ -ouf! {tntb~ ~ .. ~ ~ -felLHf tf vutJ _~~j AVt -ftJ ~ . .~d.e:t ~ AY'~ ~-4'~ ~tM ~ . c ~ ~ ~ ~-/ItL -~ t~ ~ w-ev-M - ~~ ..p,~ . ~~ ~ ~ . . -t1.L d-0~ . ~~i/ ~~ ~oJ-li~ } -yM ~ WW~ {)hL 't:!:':; l~/; (d Nw)~ )Jj' . . . _ \-0 ~vG- f,- ~~ \,.-(jP'iI"] ~ __'_..;L .4. ..... 5~~+ 10 tr~C-.. /--J 7~~! . . . January 18, 1989 \D) rn @ rn u ~L~. \n1 l\ill JI\N 2 3 \989 . Members, Planning Board Southold Town Hall Southold, New York 11971 Re: Marina Bay Club New Suffolk, New York Dear Members, I would like to go on record in opposition to the current plans for the "Marina Bay Club" project in New Suffolk. There are simply too many undesirable features to a project which depends to such a degree on size and high-technology to succeed. Regarding size, I understand there is a minimum size which an ambitious program and difficult site need to succeed. Site and construction are very expensive. However, by putting all his eggs in the "marina/restaurant basket", this developer has created a project out of scale with its New Suffolk context. It would take a lot of boats owned by a lot of people who drive a lot of cars to succeed. These same people use a great deal of water and gas and produce a great deal of waste. New Suffolk is a community which prides itself on its ability to survive at a small scale. In an age when systems are generally consolidating in favor of "efficiency" (often creating large scale problems) New Suffolk maintains its small scale identity, and hence its coherence. It has lost many businesses over the years, but has kept its character and vitality. My other concern is environmental. I am very concerned that the developer's high-tech solution to the water supply problem will adversely impact the ecology of the Bay. The natural systems are too little understood to allow a project which could seriously impact them. More research is needed to determine if the high salt effluent and disruption of existing litteral and tidal currents by the new breakwater will have adverse long term consequences. The Bay is (hopefully) convalescing, yet is continually under new pressure from the surrounding population. Every effort should be made to promote its health and survival. In conclusion, I would like to see the Planning Board promote additional changes to Mr.Carr's plans. In short, the marina should be reduced in size, along with the parking, and new uses should be considered which would fit . . ,.. . . . . in and add to the village character of New Suffolk. I understand that commercial waterfront development is a very tricky business, which does not permit financial risk taking of any great degree. However, to succeed any project must also gain the support of the surrounding community which insists on a voice in determining its future, and also address fully the environmental concerns, too long ignorned, upon which all our futures depend. Sincerely, i~ ~,dA. Thomas C. Samuels New Suffolk Road New Suffolk, New York . . . - '''-. ~ &~ d ~, ---.---h.l ) cr ~'"~~-'.:r~fi ULl; \ n \, c, ; j 7\\ ~,._,._~-~-,.-- " ' '~\ \"",'. 2. 3 \989 c> ~ Q cJh?"\-~(~J \ OW", ~~OI'9..l\l-~- fJ~ -,4 ~C:' J~ \Iv' t4? New ,s:~ ~..(c \ \c.... .s: , , Q Jo., '" ~ , "J ~ ,.? vJ, s \, '"r, C:;~'f ,,-,>'1-,,,,- ~~ ~f?()'!:>''\-''r\..--- '\t,"-\-'^t. ~\&R\N~ \51>9.7 CL..J::. . fh. '-r"t. ~ '\? '-^- ~\'t c 0 V\ C ~ " \J t ~ ,=,\ ,,'~ ~""'O \ "'"~ ", "To ~o.... -'100 '''' '" ""/ [\1." \-". '" ~ Co '" c ~ '"-.-I '''r~ ""''^ L ~ "V .. <. '" "'" ~ IA."'\...I " "(j>"- c;- \o~ GlI_ ~Y9w0 \'}.rJD W0-1-eD-, ~ v'<;;~.~ ""-"'~r ~\.."..... V5oo.,J BCC\..\~ ~ II \..\/"-. ~"-,, ~ v t>(Y~ c ( ~ ,.."",,\ ~. v, "> - (\ '\)0 ~ 0 "\-\, d ...) t1 "'3- e C1'.1} ge0'\ ~., b tJc~ve E. 1~<)7-'l1 . ~ Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 TELEPHONE (516) 765-1938 . . PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD January 11, 1989 John J. Hart Pelletreau & pelletreau P.O. Box 110 Patchogue, NY 11772 RE: Marina Bay Club SCTM *1000-117-8-18 Dear Mr. Hart: The following action was taken by the Southold Town Planning Board on Monday, January 9, ~989. RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board amend the resolution of the Special Meeting of January 4, 1989 regarding an extension. The extent ion for the public comment period for the above mentioned proposal will run from January 4, 1989 to January 23, 1989. If you have any questions., please do not hesitate to contact this office. Ver~ruly your~}....... /J /1. . /J L(/ l I ,I .// ,/ / // ( .',.'./ I., A ...-;'~" c.' .-" i /" ,/ /.-."';" ,.:: /' .,,,.' /' ~ - /.---.,' ,'.. ,'..' -, . " : "., .... j-/~-,/// /'._ ..''''' ';,~,>_'''~ ~.~,-1.. V~-!..''J.Vt..t., '/ ...../ ......-" ~ .,/..... BENNETT ORLOWSKI,JR. P CHAIRMAN cc: Robert Greene, DEC Michael Corey, DOS David Emilita, SAI . - . . New York State Department of Environmental Conservation Building 4O-SUNY, Stony Brook, New York 11794 Flli"""" ~ ~~ r n w ~ rl \ t5 \;.J~_---' uj~-- l JAN - 9 I9ll \ "' SOUl1lOlD TOWN ~" lU!!NING BOARD (516) 751-7900 January 3, 1989 Ms. Jill Thorp Secretary to Planning Board Town of Southold Planning Board Town Hall, 53095 Main Rd. P. O. Box 1179 Southold, NY 11971 Re: Review of Marina Bay elu~ PElS DEe Application No, 10-85-0840 Dear Ms. Thorp: We respectfully request a 30 day extension to the comment period due to end January 4, 1989. We only received the DElS on December 19, 1988, and will attempt to have comments prepared as soon as possible, but it may take up to 30 days from today's request. Thank you for your consideration. Very truly yours, &Tc:7~ Robert A. Greene Regional Permit Administrator Region 1 RAG: rw . - . . -'.' '.~;.\ .,\~ . STATE OF NEW YORK DEPARTMENT OF STATE ALBANY, N.Y. 12231-0001 GAIL S. SHAFFER SECRETARY OF STATE January 4, 1988 Ms. Jill Thorpe Southold Town Planning Board 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 128 Southold, NY 11911 Re: S-81-031 Supplemental DEIS and FEIS for the Marina Bay Club at New Suffolk Dear Ms. Thorpe: We received copies of the above-referenced documents on December 20, 1988. Unfortunately, we will not be able to submit our cOlllments to you by the January 4, 1988 date indicated in the cover letter attached to the documents. By this letter I would like to request that the Department of State deadline for providing comments be extended to Monday, January 9. Thank you for your consideration. Sincerel:;W' l~'. /'/J/f . .~ ,~' - MC:ak Michael Corey Senior Environmental Analyst . . . . Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 TELEPHONE (516) 765.1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFIC~ TOWN OF SOUTHOLD January 4, 1989 A Special meeting was held on Wednesday January 4, 1989. WHEREAS, the Planning Board granted a thirty (30) day extension on the public comment period for the Marina Bay Club, which ran from December 5, 1988 to January 4, 1989. The extended thirty days will be from January 4, 1989 to February 3, 1989. ~ J~.~/ Ben n.~.~, t orlOWjsft. i,Jr. , .. Cp&kman ~j d Y I), /Lr/J ~ J (.~~"'7 W~l iam F. Mullen, ! r., Member L~I /f'~ ~~4-0-,t ~e~;~itchie Latham,Jr., Member ~~SC~ Richard G. Ward, Member ?~-!~~ Kenneth L. Edwards, Member . 4 Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 TELEPHONE (516) 765-1938 . . PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD January 4, 1988 John J. Hart Pelletreau & pelletreau P.O. Box 110 Patchogue, NY 11772 RE: Marina Bay Club SCMT *1000-117-8-18 Dear Mr. Hart: The following action was taken by the Southold Town Planning Board at a special meeting on Wednesday, January 4, 1989. RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board grant a thirty (30) day extension on the public comment period for the Marina Bay Club, which ran from December 5, 1988 to January 4, 1989. The extended thirty days will run from January 4, 1989 to February 3, 1989. The request for a thirty day extension came from the Department of Environmental Conservation, however, this extension applies to all involved agencies. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact this office. V~truly your~~ ../ .",,<" l - . - ,..~/ /) /J ,.'/ ,.f '/ ,- /,- '"'' 'f /~ ~.... "-- 0' ,...... <.- J ,. 1/' ). . ., '." -,., r '-;;;;~~ORLOWSKI ,JR. . ' CHAIRMAN / ,/ jt CC' mve. to",',) :kc \ >.s"S<'f ~'Ia..\\ LO"<ZSi"~J<<)<e. ,"'" . -, " -5/ 11' ~:_-- " , I ~- ~~/~ . ~ ~ r/~ ~ (~'ffid, 10- I~~~~ t;. & 111f~ (J~ ~4 ~, . ~~-&~~~r~ k~~~t-~~O- ~~) ~l;)~ ~ Cl- af1 oj ~ JJ;I;L (- ~. /5"" 193~. k~ ~ 1 . ~~ ~/ --- .... . .----.--. ~ tk ~ fOh- 1 tk ):Iii:i {YlL 4fiJ1 ~.. [t ~ j~)k~~ {Aft ~~ -tkl-cL c;/s~. . ~~~ f-AJ1f;t.1ww . ~ . ./~~~~ o-~,~ ~ (11.- ~~~~~"'-~ HA /~A)klJr~~ M IM/XL~ ~~ ~~~ ~~1~(YlMLfa- ~/~~'~/~ frh~~~~ ,,..-~ -.- - .~~~. JJA4L fk 8~ -&- ~ , r, ~--tA-~ f ~~ ~JJ; J ~~ /J11JJJr ~. -jl;b ~ ;i 0- I{ 11ffl4r ~ ,( foJJ1A>4' . " I 1V1~ 1J ~ .. . . . ~ m m 0 WI m rn1.' "i:! ;\' y \1 - 4 1989 , . ~, ""'~---' SOUTHCtI..G Te\'".. PlMJNi'\;:; ,~ November 15, 1987 Southold Town Planning Board Town Hall Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Re! Application of Marina Bay Club (Richard T. Carr) New Suffolk, New York Chairman Orlowski and Members of the Board! As residents of Jackson Street, New Suffolk, my husband, Edward K. Holland, Jr., and I would like to add our voices to those in strong opposition to the above-captioned application. Before setting forth our reasons for doing so, I would like to offer the Board a bit of information concerning my background. I was secretary to the Southold Town Board of Appeals, under Robert Gillispie's chairmanship, from 1976 to 1978. For the next six years I was employed by Charles E. Raffe, Esq., an attorney in Riverhead whose practice, to a great extent, con- sists of handling real estate transactions in all their various aspects. I was then employed by a local engineering/development firm for almost two years. I feel my experience over this 10- year span gives me a rather unique insight, not only into the legal and technical procedures that must be followed by the appli- cant, but also into the behind-the-scenes maneuverings and, for lack of a better word, psychology that goes into trying to bring a project such as the Marina Bay Club to fruition. We would like to offer the following general comments for the Board's consideration! 1. First of all. we would strongly urge the Board to remember that this DEIS was bought and paid for by Mr. Carr's organization. In no way can this document be labeled an unbiased assessment of the impact of this project on New Suffolk. No developer is going to spend thousands of .... South old November Page 2 Town PlAing 1.5, 1987 . Board . . dollars for a document that shows his project would have an adverse effect on the environ- ment. As we all know, statistics can basically be manipulated to support whatever argument one wishes to present. Points in one's favor are printed in bold capital letters and expounded upon in great detail. Findings not entirely supportive of one's position are buried in a small paragraph at the end of a chapter, if mentioned at all. 2. rf.r. Carr and his attorney, Mr. Hart, are making a great show of their belief that Mr. Carr has an irrefutable right to the approximately three acres of underwater lands covered by the Southold Town and New York State grants. As was brought up at the hearing by Mr. Lowry, many residents of the village are seriously questioning the validity of this claim and will be researching this particular point in great detail in the weeks to come, I would ask the Board to keep in mind that this is a controversial issue and not a fait accompli, as Mr. Carr would have you believe. ). In regard to the sewage treatment plant and reverse osmosis water system, Mr. Callahan, an engineer who spoke for the New Suffolk Civic Association at the recent hearing, is much more qualified than I to offer specific objections. I would just like to urge the Board to give a great deal of consideration to his comments and those of the Baymen's Association regarding the effect of the effluent and excess saline on our environment. Furthermore, dup to the question which has been raised concerning the possibility that the Riverhead sewage treatment plant has contributed to and/or caused the "brown tide" prOblem we have experienced for the past three seasons, it is highly questionable whether another sewage treatment plant should be allowed until this matter has been fully resolved. 4. Perhaps the single issue which most concerns our residents about the Marina Bay Club's applica- tion is the increase in traffic which would be generated by this project. Using the figures contained in the DEIS, it is estimated that, .. ...... Southold November Page J Town P~ning ~rd 15, 1987 . . at peak times during the summer months, there will be an increase in traffic on our roads of approximately 400 percent. Yet this same DEIS states that there will be no appreciable impact on our village due to this increase. This is ludicrous. I certainly hope that the Board will give a great deal of thought to the effect this added volume of traffic would have on our system of roads. In conclusion, I would like to state my strongest objection to this project in its entirety. Everyon~ in our village would agree that the site, as it presently stands, could use a great deal of improvement. Most residents would have no objection to a smaller, more environmentally realistic business-marine use of the property, although there are many of us who would dearly love to see this site taken over by the municipality under ane of the land preservation acts. However, at the recent hearing, when the question of reducing the expansion of the marina to a reasonable size was raised, Mr. Hart quickly trotted over to the microphone and stated that an operation of this proposed extent is necessary in order to meet Mr. Carr's carrying costs. We heard a flowery speech about how this would be a quality, high- class operation that would be of great benefit to the people of New Suffolk, etc., etc.. Gentlemen, as I told you at the beginning, I have been on all sides of this process for years, and if there's one thing 1 know, it's thisl Mr. Carr is in this to make a great deal of money, and that's it. He can pay all the lip service he wants to "the great spirit of cooperation with the people of New Suffolk", his interest in preserving our special niche in history, and the countless blessings that would flow to the town by virtue of this project - his eye is on the bottom line, and a good show of public relations will only hasten the time before he realizes a substantial return on his investment. We in New Suffolk have a much more intangible goal before us - to preserve our village, our environment, and our way of life, not only for ourselves but for future generations to enjoy. ~imply stated, MR. CARR'S PROFIT N~GIN DOES NOT HAVE TO BE MET AT THE COST OF OUR QUALITY OF LIFE. The recent elections show that the majority of people in the Town of Southold agree. I thank the Board for your time and consideration. /1/Rt;;01,Y 1];/ ~~ f!rYl D. HOll:4~ V\.lj' v SQlllHOtO ,OWN olP,NNING BOAHO__ r ::..;.;.;.;---'---~ . . 1/{)/&9 J7}eat ~ vJ Sm .,J/,J/kt", ;Jj,.'''';:r ~,,-,c1 7J2V}le 'YI4 e.<,(... er"";J m~ ~ t!c:.t "'/i''c4G.; cz,,, .AU<L/~,1/.wS'';#kQ~,{i'uk~r, ~ djr-tdl ~lJ .d. m1"lm'JIu..h cI ~ {j~~k f'V- f..w ~ 'L j<<u- 4J" a.vd ..J "<7YIzt.~ S" bj"f, ;):L ~ I- 7 i yL rF"~aI....u-m~ ~,jW~; ~ ~ ~vWn""-'<<.u .L:u;.M~ l ykcf"'"'~ eu<d r +L ,o~Ju;1 'faJn 4' ~. '. ~~U/~/J~ /,).d. ,{a ;JwJ~' Alt1L cc)ic~ ~ . ~ ... . . . . Planning Board Page 6 January II, 1988 , ~r. Jack lart:t If we can be furnished with a copy of that we will be ~ happy reply. We have addressed Some III comments from the public and I gather also from the Planning Board. All of those are being considered and will be answered by the experts Mr. Carr has hired. I have attended a meeting which lasted, as Henry did, most of the day in which these very subjects were discussed at length. Yo w ".t.t~~~:;'~~jl impact state' Mr. Jack Hart: Mr. Chafrman if we might we would like to be able to respond to the questions. "r. Orlowski: We wou~d l!ke_:i()\!.!;q".U.l!.IlAAlI,~.N:l ~t~~e III: start as i~ wo~ld .~~l)'l'e f,ai~ l'1S..l'!q,u~dt r_ 11 e t'osta~.. .........ft!'>1H1'1.-me&pp1'Icant-ror the cost. _~..~~c~~~~ pr::,,~~~~o:~~,;:'~~t~;,,~~tction provided there is an impartia "Mr. Orlowski: Definitely. . M.r.. ~.a.ckHart:. Th..at. of c . IP'lolj.-,lI,.....n~~lIr1 li ."<nU~,re ilil,. IL.~. '. ';, .' .wl! can pay and I ~hink that's fixed b . ~W' 'e tat ion is about $2,000.00. '. ( Mr. Henry Raynor: What type of time frame do you preceive for your series of questions pertaining to the environmental impact? Mr. Orlowski: Well, nothing would get started until we have all your comments back. Ms. Scopaz: the general so far what Mr. Chairman if I may, for the benefit of the board and also public, I could outline the alterpatives for the board in as the next step could be if you would like. Mr. Orlowski: Sure. Ms. Scopaz: OK, basically the board has two options, one is to require things on the environmental ,impact statement,..the final environmental impact statement written on the site plan that Was submitted with'the draft. Exactly as the plan proposed. The. board can either request the applicant prepare the impact .statement or the board an decide that the town will prepare the final impact statement. lye have two options there. The second alternative is that the board can request a supplemental draft environrnent~l impact statement based on alternative"scaled down project or version of a proposal. Those would be the three actual possibiLLties. L. ~ . ( 'pleolliiie (tJ,w -4o~ P~\, 1\:)'('1\- I '1' ( r~'- ..i<C. I L .. . Planning Board . . . Page 7 January 11, 1988 Mr. Richard Ward: I have a question for the applicant basically since there's been an overwhelming, at this point, response from the people in the area in the terms of the scale of the project. Is it a reality that you're.going to consider the scaled down version? Mr. Hart: ....:::::; restaurant facility Carr to that and he Mr. Richard Ward: I guess my question is are you better off to persue the overview with the enlarged project as it stands now or are you better off addressing what you see as your scaled down project? There may be some advantages doing that because then you're both addressing something , that's more compatable and is of interest to the community and to the site. and in fact do a quicker and better job for everyone involved and rather than going thru an academic process of looking at something that is far beyond the capacity of the site. Mr. Raynor: I would ask you as to what site plan your addressing to? Mr. Ward: Page 1 and 2. Mr. Raynor: O.K. because the initial site plan had designated some things that we already said on behalf of the applicant it will be changed. For instance, number one the original proposed restaurant complex was a seating capacity of 450. That's now been scaled down to 225 and 75 on the outside and that's seasonal. One of the comments thateame .forward out of several of the meetings was the removal of t~-sewage treatment plant from the support building over into the std!a~e building. This has also been done s.o actually, it's an on going" amejl:dm\ll'1t type.of sequence that we've been addressing public comments with.. ., . Ms. Scopaz: Unfortunately, if I may, I would like to just mention one thing so you're aware of it. The way the se~ra process is set up, the board has to revi~~~he draft environmental impact statement in relation to the plans submitted with it and it cannot entertain amendmept to that ~lan except as part of the supplement of DEtS. That is one reason why we have not been able to look at subsequent amendments. Mr. Raynor: I would submit to the board as we have already started to address already a hundred and eleven of these items on thE! final environ- mental impact statement that we continue to do same round that skeleton- out and address any further concerns of the board at that time. . . . . Planning Board Page 8 January 11, 1988 ( \ - Mr. Hart: I don't want to run into a technical snag though, I want t~be sure I understand what your saying and that is that what you want to see is the final without any alternative. .:Is that correct? , ~.. . 'j,... Ms. Scopaz: No, I saying that the amendment that Mr. Raynor is referring to has been requested as part of a supplemental DEIS. They are not for a final they are simply amendments that were brought in. The board must deal with the site. Plan and the impact statement upon which refers to that site plan. It cannot look at this document and 100k.:at. a map that doesri't meet up with this document. Mr. Hart: So what you saying is you want a.supp1ementa1 DEIS too. Ms. Scopaz: I not saying that, I'm saying that the board has the option that's one of the options the board legally has. Mr. Raynor: We can very readily rename what we're concerning as a final, as ~ ~upp1ementa1 if that's an alternative to satisfy the board. Mr. Ward: No I was just saying that you might be able to if in fact with the public input you've gotten to date that you felt it was.going to be scaled down anyway that maybe you should go in that direction. Go to the scaled down project for the DEIS rather than going for this seating what ever your doing which you know your probably not going to pursue anyway. All I'm saying is why go through an academic exercise if you can zero in on a specific scope and project that's .a.rea1ity and more compatab1e to the community. ( Mr. Raynor: We would most certainly rather reclaim the supplemental and address the issues. .:~.;.- d" Mr. Hart: O.K., that have been .feasib1e from th what is we will respond to all the comments plan to show what is minimall:Y" <1-- PI-. ~Ju- -10 ll.~ floi'.9l- I, ~"*' I ',Mr. Orlowski: I think we'll make our decision after that1 Ms. Scopaz: If you decide to exercise that option, we will need correspondence from you saying that that is what you would like.. to do. The board action on the extension of the time within DEIS. We'll do that by the next meeting,we'll tnke cnre of that. Mr. Orlowski: O.~. w~'ll do that by the next meeting. Mr. Rnynor: Thank you very much. .' L ~ January 3. 1989 - " " 'M.~~1h Thorp , .. ~, . :, ~~t~jh'y to 1'1li1l'\nina !Qa~4 1'ovn of SOI.lt:hold l'b.nnlna lend . , ,TOII'l'\ t1~11.. H09S ~in Rd. P. O. llox1l19 Southol<1. NY 11'97.1 . " Re: Roylew ot """y Cbtl JllUS ' DEe Apj'l1:tc t:l.OI\ ,No, ~O..SS~0840 Wa {mly t'lICl!ive9 tj,. OtIS' on 1:,lie~'btl1' OM!lllel\ts prtpuft lIII /!ioon n posdbl.., but tQdliy'a r.Il.lluellt. . tieat' Me. Thorp: lIa rllspeClt:1J11y 'l:llqueS.t II 30 day.~,:\;etision to. the CI J;an-l.Aa-ry' '4,.- 19';S9',.~;~>-- "_~".'E -c _', /' -.,", . il1 attempt to bave 30 days from 19. UBe,. and it may take 11 Thank you f(n your, llol'\aidenti",n. . Very truly you ,o&'~ ',,,/ 'Robert A. Gr.. Regional Ferm:l. Rei!l:l.on 1 . i:? ' 'A;'" .,~.;.} '~l~':lt~:~:.i e ..., ,:.... AdlllinUtutor, . RAG I rw . " ~, . ./ Q,. . . . . ~@~u\V~_ December 30, 1988 ~ J!\N - 4 1989 SOUTHOLD TOWN PlANNING BOARD Southold Tower Planning Board 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 728 Southold, New York 11971 Re: Supplement No. 2 To The Draft Environmental Impact Statement Marina Bay Club, First and Main Streets, New Suffolk, New York Gentlemen: The referenced supplement to the draft environment impact statement continues to present a project for which the applicant clearly does not have full property rights. The project as described proposes to utilize lands outside of the applicants jurisdiction. The references throughout the supplement and in earlier submissions to the US Army and corps of Engineering granting permits for such work and deciding on the merits of such applications based upon impedance to navigation is totally misleading. The corps in its issuance of a permit can not grant any rights or privileges to use of lands that are not within the jurisdiction of the applicant. Given the above, as previously recommended in earlier submissions it is requested that the applicant amend and limit its activity to properties clearly within its control and to treat its effort to obtain additional lands for development under a separate project. In addition to the concern for the validity of the document with respect to the scope of work it portrays, it is also noted that the latest draft has modified the proposed location of the intake for the reverse osmosis water treatment system whereby the well points are proposed to be located much further to the west rather than draft directly from the bay. Given the lack of experience with this new technology at a site such as this, extreme caution should be taken so that the delicate balance between the interface of fresh water and brackish water is not altered which could possibly worsen the salt water intrusion problem already experienced in the area. ~~ P. Callahan Patrick E. Callahan, PE 3rd Street Between Orchid of King Streets New Suffolk, L.I. N. Y. 11956 Copy New Suffolk Civic Association Mr. Joseph Fenton, Esq. l~ --~""'-'~'~"'C""'.--'-'-""-'-C"----~-'-"',_- . . 'ill ~ @ ~ U \~I [" V LS JAN - 4 /989 . .' SOUTHOLD TOWN PlANNING BOARD 119 1 - @! Jackson St'reet, New Suffolk, N.Y. Jan. 2, 1989 Planning Board, Town of Southold,N.Y. Gentlemen: In regard to the propbsal of Mr. Richard Carr to construct a greatly enlarged shipyard and docking facilities, a restaura.nt and bar at least four tim~s the size of the present one in critical area. for well water, the installation of an untried reverse osmosis system could very likely be ruinous for the permanent residents of this small village. , ..' ; There are only two' road's tn'and out of Ne," Suffolk, one to Cutchogue and one to M<itt.ituck. ~Lready the summer traffic goini! to tpel<{uucht4'g; t;>611ip-; the public beach and the small re::;eaar<j.I\e, 'tSt oY-erwhelming. ,', ''^ <: The polutiqn {nto PeconicBay froM?s~wage will in all probability "be incre<ree<io -E1<Caus€'" the lat)d around the boatyard is made land mostly;fr,9!n}Cl2'ster sHells many years ago. The osmosis s,s~~ ~ith'tha hig;L,~~ltPoncentrate being returned to Peconic Bay will certainly r~tard the attempt to return the g:powth 'b,fpe<;on;i.C'tBay scallops to one of the most productiv~'a'1:egs p1:i,or ,to the brown tide problins. ',';1' Mr. Carris not conce.;p.ed,wiSh the problem~ his proposals will bring to the resident's of New Suffolk _ the traffic, sew.ge, polution and the probability pf salt water intrusion into the wells in the area. Mr. CatT is interested only in making a fast buck fot htmself {md then moving on to new fields. I beg of you to think of the residents of this lovely historic village and not approve Mr.Carr's application. .... -'-__ L -- --- __ _ ____ _,..- u_______ . /~J ~/f~ c;:Y'~~./~ / ;I~.p~~/~t~ rnl~~~~;~ i ,rn SOUTHOLD TOWN PlANNING BOARD ~~;~ ~ cJ>/~ ~tJ-4~ ~ ~ ~~~~pI~~~ ~.~/~~~~ ~ ,;t-k ~ /i:::tH ~ ~. 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Paul Schulze 6340 Ne-w Sulfil/k Road P.O. Box /34 Ne-w S11jo/k. NY 11956 516-734-5119 . . . . December 27, 1988 r::.." 1:L~}IJLj fl J J[ ~ m '1r,11 ~ UU! DEe 3 0 ltlOt\ i, , I IvceJ .'1' I '---- ~! 1.__' So~- ' UTHri' '-. '1-'~'- , i PUit,w.~;';~_._:CVt'N ~ ! "~t.I:H)J,f?D ......_--..! Southold Town Planning Board Southold, New York Re: Marina Bay Club Dear Planning Board Members: We chose to make our home in New Suffolk because of what it is. Two years ago, when we had decided that the North Fork was what we wanted to call home, our search ended in the village of New Suffolk. The quiet, unpretentious atmosphere and lingering past of this place brought us here. We learned of the Marina Bay Club only after we had committed to our choice. At first, we wondered, why the fuss? Two years later we are convinced that the project as proposed is dispro- portionate to the community. The Marina Bay Club will do nothing for New Suffolk or its residents. It will increase traffic, noise, transients and the possibility for additional pollution of a bay on the verge of extinction. The prospect of 137 floating motel rooms with toilets that have the option of bypassing a holding system is scary. Parking lots, street lights and sidewalks do not replace a walk to the Post Office and Bill's Grocery. New Suffolk can only become a thoroughfare for temporary boat people. This past summer we had to call the Southold police chief to ask for a greater presence on New Suffolk Road to curtail speeding by motorists. Can the police department devote the extra time that will inevitably be needed due to the increase in traffic and temporary population? As to the personal gain that will be obtained by building far out into the bay on a public waterway, this strikes us as excessive. We have not heard one word of support for this project from a New Suffolk citi2en. We have not heard one word of concern from the developers for the hamlet of New Suffolk. In today's fragile balance of nature and man, development of any kind should nurture the surroundings and responsibly give more than it takes away. This is in no way evident in the current plan. We think it is an obligation of the Planning Board to protect the environment, the integrity of heritage and the personal well-being of the citizens under its juristiction. . . . . 1fD] II @ & u W & ,fii} UO DEe 30938 I~I soumOlD row~ I PLAN~jLIjG B!l,t;nD : '-"-------~~ ,~J ORIENT ASSOCIATION Box 347, Orient, NY 11957 December 17, 1988 Southold Town Planning Board Town Hall Main Road, Southold, NY Gentlemen: The Orient Association strongly supports the critics of the proposed Marina Bay Club development. Were it to be approved, it would set a dangerous precedent for development in Southold, as well as destroy one of the most charming of Southold's villages. The monolithic nature of the proposed structure is typical of overdeveloped waterfronts where the waterfront itself has become invisible to the interior. Any development in Southold should be appropriate to its environment, and should take into consideration the nature of the existing village, its size, its traffic patterns, and its historic and aesthetic character. All the branches of government of Southold Town must protect, as their first line of responsibility, the citizens and the environment of the town, not the priorities of the developer. Specific dangers of this particular project, such as the threat that extensive use of reverse osmosis holds for the fragile ecology of the bay, have been well articulated by speakers at the hearing. Mr. Carr's proposal is professional and impressive; it is simply too massive for New Suffolk, and this must be the major criterion for any decision. Sincerely, ~~ Freddie Wachsberger Vice president Orient Association . ) . . . . PETER V. SNYDER -.JOHN..I. HART JOHN J. ROE, II! FREDERIC L. ATWOOD J. TIMOTHY SHEA BRUCE T. WALLACE KEVIN A. SEAMAN VANESSA M. SHEf:HAN' BENJAMIN L. HERZWEIG PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW 20 CHURCH STREET - BOX 110 PATCHOGUE. NEW YORK 11772 TEL. 516 447-8900 FAX 516 475-5651 ROBERT S. PELlETREAU (1891-1943) RICHARD A. SCHOENFELD 119S0-19BO) ROBERT H. PELLETREAU OF COUNSEL RUSSELL C, BURCHERI 0 DOUGLAS.J. LERCiSE BRIAN McCAFFREY JAMES G, HYLAND 447-8925 00 m@rnO\Ylrnfn) ,'II' DEe 2 8 918 " "ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA o ALSO ADMITTED IN NEW ..JERSEY December 27. 1988 0; ;T 6 -""'" , 1""2- L'_._~k"'''''';';'' Hon. Bennett Orlowski. Jr. Planning Board Chairman Town of Southold 53095 Main Road Southold. New York 11971 Re: Carr/Marina Bay Club Dear Chairman Orlowski and Members of the Planning Board: Thi.s letter is written to you in response to the comments raised at the pUblic hearing held on December 19. 1988 concerning the application for the improvement of the Marina Bay Club at New Suffolk. Comments of Joseph Fenton: To correct a mis-statement. There the existing Galley Ho Restaurant. additional 150. are now some 75 seats in The Plan calls for an Mr. Fenton also stated sailboats with deep draft would have navigational difficulties as a result of the building of the structure. There is presently a sand flat which extends easterly from the foot of First Street for approximately 1/2 mile into peconic Bay. The erection of the marine facility will not. in any way. further affect this existing condition. The issue of the grant of 1838 has already been addressed by the DEIS and the supplemental DEIS and the Town Attorney has concurred with the conclusion stated by the applicant. The grant is not a limiting factor. It enlarges the rights of the riparian owner and gives him. in effect. title to land under water. The rights of a riparian owner to erect piers and to use the waterways in front of and adjacent to the upland. have already been determined on a number of occasions by the . . . . PELLETREAU &PELLETREAU Hon. Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Page 2 December 27, 1988 courts. There is also the practice and procedure adopted and extant in the Town of Southold regarding existing marina use. There are scallop beds, not of a commercial nature, which exist to the north and east of the proposed marina. The statement that there is 15 feet of water surrounding the marina is inaccurate. The average water depth is approximately 10 feet. speaker *2, Chairman of the CAC: There is no possibility that houseboats will be utilized as condominiums. The covenants and restrictions filed with the Planning Board prohibit this. As stated by the speaker, the surrounding area depth is approximately 10 feet and might have to be dredged to obtain a depth of 10 feet. This is correct. As stated by the H2M experts, the salt water resulting from the RO Plan will mix with the discharge from the tertiary sewerage treatment plan and the effluent which finally finds its way into the bay will not adversely impact upon the bay. R. Wacher, North Fork Environmental Council: The statement that the reverse osmosis system is not working on Long Island is contrary to the experience of H2M, which will respond. councilperson Larsen: A question has been raised as to the appropriateness of Ms. Larsen's appearance before the Board. She, of course. is a member of the appointing body. will her opposition to the project color her decision in other matters affecting the applicant? The issues raised by Ms. Larsen are addressed in the DEIS, which will be reviewed by the lead agency. There are codium beds (not eel grass) off the site. They will not be affected by bottom paint as there will be a limitation on the use of anti-fouling agents effective January I, 1989. " , . . . . PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU Hon. Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Page 3 December 27, 1988 T. Lowery: Mr. Lowery stated an objection as to size. As stated on innumerable occasions by the applicant, he meets the existing limitations as to size and has, in fact, reduced the size of the restaurant and marina at the request of local organizations. In order to provide a quality environment, a great deal of money will be spent to improve the property. In order to provide the money to do this, the project must be economically feasible. Marina and restaurant experts have determined that this is the optimum size for the project. Peter Latson, Secretary, Baymens Association: The codium beds referred to lie to the north and east of the proposed site. The reduction to the size proposed by Mr. Latson would result in a deprivation of property under the Fourteenth Amendment and would, in effect, be a condemnation. The buildings that were razed were razed as a result of a Town Board mandate. Joan Robins: Ms. Robins' water supply will not be affected by the project. John Wickam: Mr. Wickam's historical rem1n1sces are correct. New Suffolk, at one time, was a bee hive of commercial activity. It provided jobs for local residents and contributed greatly to the economic well-being of the Town of Southold. The applicant proposes to provide the same economic benefit with an updated commercial marine use. Thank you for your attention. Very truly yours, PE"3:TR~JUPELL.E~EAU Jo n J. H t ~ JJ . a \ cc: See attached Rider 2235C/1-3 . . . . . . PELLETREAU &PELLETREAU Rider December 27, 1988 Hon. Ellen Larsen Hon. Ruth Oliva Hon George L. Penny IV Hon. Raymond W. Edwards Hon. Jean W. Cochran James Schondebare, Esq, Town Attorney Valerie scopaz, Town Planner Richard Ward, member of the Planning Board Richard Latham, member of the planning Board William Mullen, member of the Planning Board Kenneth Edwards, member of the Planning Board David Emilita Judith Terry, Town Clerk Richard Carr Jean Celender Henry Raynor Holzmacher, McLendon & Murrell Att: Sam McLendon Dravo Van Houten, Inc Att: Clem Cameron Niego Associates Att: Sol Niego Dunn Engineering, P.C. Att: Walter Dunn B. Laing Associates Att: Michael Bontje Saland Real Estate Att: David Saland Young & Young Att: Howard Young 2235C/4 . I ..... , . . . . FETeR v. SNYDER JOHN.J. H....RT .JOHN oJ. ROE. III F"REDE:RIC L. A TWQOD .J TIMOTHY SHEA BRUCE T _ WALLACE: KEVIN A. SEAMAN VANESSA M. SHEEHAN" BENJAMIN L. HERZWEIG PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW 20 CHURCH STREET. BOX 110 PATCHOGUE, NEW YORK 11772 TEL. 516447-8900 FAX 516 475.5651 H.PELLETREAU RUSSELL C. BURCHERI 0 DOUGLAS .J. L.EROSE BRIAN MeCAFTREY .JAMES G. HYLAND 447-8906 ROBERT S, PELLE:TREAU tte81-'843f RICHARD A. SCHOENF"ELD 1'81S0-I.eOl .ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA o ALSO ADMITTED IN NEW JeRSey December 20. 1988 r-~-----'- ': --:---,p:e--TI ': l'_ ), ,J ifJ On " . -~-------'dlj! : i'l nr (' 2 2 1988 'i -' '! '...J ! I L-______..--.J , I SUUTlIOLD TOWN , _ PlANNIi~G BOARD J Town of Southold Town Ha 11 53095 Main Road Southold. New York 11971 Attn: Hon. Bennett Orlowski. Jr. Chairman. Planning Board RE: MARINA BAY CLUB Dear Chairman Orlowski: ;-..'~, We would like to take this opportunity to thank you for the time given to our group atH1:ast evening'S public-heat:inqon the DEIS for the above project. We are in the process of drafting our responses to the questions raised and shall forward same to you in the near future. As per 105 N.Y. Compo Codes R. and Regs. Tit. 6 S617.8(e) (1987). it is our understanding that the lead agency will prepare the FEIS within forty-five (45) calendar days after the close of the pUblic hearing. The outside date (from 12/19/88) would. therefore. be February 2. 1988. Thank you for your cooperation. Very truly yours. P~TREAU & PELLETREAU - ~.~ J J. Q JFH:hmm cc: See additional Rider lU/69 ( " . . December 20, 1988 . Rider Hon. Francis J. Murphy Hon. Ellen Larsen Hon. Ruth Oliva Hon George L. Penny IV Hon. Raymond W. Edwards Hon. Jean W. Cochran James Schondebare. Esg, Town Attorney Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner Richard Ward, Member of the Planning Board Richard Latham, Member of the Planning Board William MUllen, Member of the planning Board Kenneth Edwards, Member of the Planning Board David Emil ita Judith Terry, Town Clerk Richard Carr Jean Celender Henry Raynor Holzmacher, McLendon & Murrell Att: Sam McLendon Dravo Van Houten, Inc Att: Clem Cameron Niego Associates . , Att: Sol NiegQ. Dunn Engineering, P.C. Att: Walter Dunn B. Laing Associates Att: Michael Bontje Saland Real Estate Att: David Saland Young & Young Att: Howard Young luno . """" '" " . , . . ffi rn @ ffi U \'II ffi rn 1E11. ~d8~ ATTORNEY AT LAW COpy JOSEPH FENTON JACKSON STREET NEW SUFFOLK, N. Y. 11956 (516) 734-5099 December 21, 1988 Jamea A. Schondebare, Town Attorney Town Hall, 53095 Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Re: Marina Bay Club New Suffolk, N.Y. Dear Mr. Schondebare: The developer, in thie matter, is attempting to rely on Robert H. Bernts son's memo to you dated September 13, 1988 ae a basis for claiming that the New York State Underwater Grant to one of its predecessors in interes't is irrelevant and that the only test of how far they can penetrate the bay is what is reasonable and does not impede navigation. I certainly agree that were there no Grant this would be the case but I am concerned that the Board may misinterpret the eztrapolation that hall been very cleverly put forth here and that the rights and obligations that go with the Grant might set lost in the shuffle. I'm sure you will agree that if what was reason- able and would not impede navigation was only the existing marina (less than the Grant area), that the beneficiary of the Grant could make a case that the Grant entitled them to use the greater Grant area even if it proved unreasonable and impeded navigation. But suppose, a~ter requesting the Grant, receiv- ing it and accepting it in 1838, the beneficiary, in 1840, decided to ignore it and go out beyond its limitations. Would not the court have then been justified in enjoining such conduct and have cited THE GRANT AND THE CONDUCT or THE PARTIES as the baeis? And suppose, after an additional century and a half of acknowledging the Grant, the grantee and ALL SUCCESSORS IN INTEREST, by enjoying its use and staying within its boundaries, might not the same courts as ordered and affirmed the Hempstead caee, conclude that the existence of the Grant and the sub- sequent conduct of the parties with respect to it create a set of facts which iUstinguish it frolt the Hempstead case and are most relevant an to what is reasonabls, and whether the latest grantee is to be estopped by 150 years of conduct, etc. If a court would have enjoined the grant- ee in 1840, why not a century and a half later? The grantees, if they claim rights under the Grant, are certainly then subject to the obligations that go with them, since all rights carry obligations. I am convinced that the cases are clearly distinguiehable. In the Hempstaed caee the Town owned the underwater Grant area and was looking to collect rent. In our case the upland own- er claims to be the beneficiary of the Grant. Since it may enable them 1" J 'a . ~ . . to go out past existing use, even what might be an unreasonable die~ance to the Grant line, I respectful17 submit that it also measures how far they can go. Thie ie eo even if going further might be reaaonable , which happens not to be the case. New York State and the grantee decided 150 years ago what wae reasonable then, and nothing in the subsequent conduct of any beneficiary does anything except enforce their agree- ment. There is nothing in the Hempstead case that dis- cusses whether underwater grants restrict a beneficiary's attempts to ex- ceed th.., and whatever dicta in the case which Marina Bay Club finds comfort in or attempts to find comfort in, is not relevant to the case at hand, because THERE IS A GRANT AND 150 YEARS OF CONDUCT WITH RESPECT TO IT. Perhaps Mr. BerntssoD8 memo in the matter can be clarified so that the Board will not assume that the Grant is to be ignored in their review, leaving open the questions as to what i8 reasonable, what will impede navigation and whether the Grant is limited to preeent use by reason of the original grantee's failure to appropriate all of it within the two year limitation imposed by its conditions. At the December 19, 1988 environmental hearing, I suggested that the matter might be beet resolved without affecting anyone's rights, by asking the developer to apply to the General Services Administration of the State of New York for an additional Grant for the further area he now wishes to exploit. Then there would be notice and hearing as part of the process and the devsloper's rights would be pre- served as would those of the Town and the community, and the Board would not be making. a decision with respect to which another Agency would have greater or concurrent jurisdiction. CircumstlUlces may require further comment from your office. Very truly youra, Joseph Fenton , . . . . ( Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P,O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 TELEPHONE (516) 765-1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD PLANNING BOARD MINUTES DECEMBER 19, 1988 The Southo1d Town Planning 30ard he~d a =egu:ar meeting on Monday, December 19, 1988 at 7:30 p.m. at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, SOutholu. PRESENT WERE: c Chairman Bennett Orlowski,Jr. Member G. Ritchie Latham,Jr. Member William F. Mullen,Jr. Member Richard G. Ward Member Kenneth Edwards Town Planner Valerie Scopaz Secretary Jill Thorp Absent: Melissa Spiro (Vacation) ****************************** Mr. Orlowski: Good evening. I would like to call this meeting to order. The first order of business is the Marina Bay Club. SCTM #1000-117-8-18. .This is a public hearing on Supplement Number Two of the Draft Environmental Impact Statement. This is a site plan located in New Suffolk. At this time we have proof of publication in the Long Island Traveler/Watchmen and also in the Suffolk Times. Everything is in order for this hearing. We will start out by asking if there are any comments. We will start on my left, this side. Please step up to the microphone and state your name. l Mr. Fenton: If it pleases the Board, my name is Joseph Fenton. I live on Jackson Street, in New Suffolk. I'm an attorney and I ., was elected Chairman of a committee that was formed~'y the community almost six years ago. When the previous ~lers of the property petitioned the Town Board to rezone so that condominiums could be built, the New Suffolk Community met at the school and voted 168 to 10 to oppose that petition. I have been selected to act as the Committee's spokesperson. We do represent tne bulk of the community here. The other m~mbers of the committee would like any time they might be entitled to at this hearin~allocated to me so that we can speak with one ".- - --~. Planni' Boe-' Pag~ December 19, 1988 voice. Our stated goal at the rezoning hearing was to retain thee' character of the community and encourage continuance of what had , existed at the site during the last century and a half, mainly a restaurant, boatyard and marina - environmentally and aesthetically sound. The committee has continued to operate for the purpose of monitoring progress of the Marina Bay Club's plans. We believe that committee is representative of the community, was selected at community meetings and was voted in by the Civic Association's membership to represent it with respect to this proposed project. The committee has unanimously concluded that the proposed project is too ambitious, and is too big for New Suffolk. The committee represents to your Beard that this is also the view of the overwhelming bulk of the community and that this project, if carried out as proposed, it will adversely affect the quality of life we enjoy. It would have certain adverse impacts on the environment and materially change the unique character of New Suffolk and its charm. We also believe and will demonstrate that certain aspects of the plan exceed the rights of the developer to accomplish them and impact on the environment in unacceptable ways. Both the developer and the community find themselves in positions each feels unable to mOdify. Richard Carr and his ~ representatives have been approachable. He has provided us with a general store next to the Post Office for newspapers, milk, bread and other necessaries. He has agreed to continue to lease the existing space to the post office which is important to us, although it could be relocated. If the Town approves the site plan, Marina Bay Club'has entered into a covenant which would prohibit building of a structure for residential proposes; or prohibit the use of boats moored at the site for residential purposes, except that sleeping aboard overnight would be permitted to transients provided their use was occasional and not regular. Something we requested and something that the Town could copy in other situations, without the need to resort to difficult legislation. Since this covenant has not yet surfaced in any submission to date, I submit a copy for your information. While we would like to accommodate the developer's needs "to show our appreciation, what he is asking for can b~~summed up in two simple words. TOO BIG! What can be done about~-_t is another matter. Originally Galley Ho restaurant's capacity was 50 seats. The first talk of enlarging the capacity to of 150 seats - triple the number. Now 300 are prepared -six times the original number, although the existing restaurant has since increased its capacity, somewhat with the addition of a terrace. I ~i1l talk ~ about parking when we get to the marina, but because the parking for the restaurant and marina are interrelated it is obvious .~:'-'" ~... Planning Boar~ . Page 3 . ~ December 19, 1988 ( that there is inadequate parking in one and it will impact on the other. We recognize restaurant use is one we asked for and what it is zoned for, but a six fold increase is in our view impractical and unworkable. Richard Carr has assured us that his experts insist that this size restaurant, in this location will work, on a year round'basis. ( The Association, in a letter to you dated November 18, 1987, favored reasonable efforts to minimize the size of this project. That is still our request. Since you exist to serve the community, perhaps you can help. Experts help sell projects to investors, but are nowhere to be found when feasibility fails. The size of the marina is another matter. Here, Mr. Carr is electing to ignore a century and a half of conduct by the original grantee of a New York State Underwater Grant and by all subsequent grantees by attempting to go outside the confines of the grant. The DEIS cites an important case and asserts that the grant is irrelevant, despite the fact that our case, is distinguishable from the Hempstead case cited. In that case the Town was the grant's owner looking to collect rent for the use of its underwater land, while in our case the owner is the beneficiary of the grant which was designed to measure how far out he could go. We believe that a century and a half of conduct speaks louder than any other concept in establishing how far he can penetrate the bay. The case cited and the thrust of this comment is that he is entitled to reasonable use of adjacent underwater land. Should the grant be ignored, when he himself chooses to rely on it in asserting a six acre site in these documents and by citing the handwritten reference to it in a November 10, 1987 deed. Despite the fact that the upland site is only three and a half acres. What better test can there be of what is reasonable than what the State considered reasonable in making the grant? What his predecessor in interest is considered reasonable in requesting it and accepting it and which all subsequent owners recognize during the past one hundred and fifty years in enjoying its use and staying within its confines? Certainly the State must have considered the effect on navigation. The developer proposes to go out one hundred and fifty feet beyond the grant. This will bring him too close to the three to four foot deep water gap, which sits out in front of the Southe~n side of the site, and will narrow or Substantially eliminate the relatively deep water gap which permits keeled boats to pass east of the site, particularly at low tide. If this path is eliminated or narrowed, it will be difficult or impossible for a keeled boat to tack past the site against the wind. There will be insufficient width to be able to zig zag into Cutchogue Harbor or reach a way point to make the turn east toward Nassau Point. In heading into the wind, a sailing vessel needs sufficient width to make enough headway on each tack to have enough momentum to be able to come about into the wind for the next tack. EstabliShing the breakwater as far out as is proposed l P1annin\ loar Page December 19, 1989 will impede navigation and enable further build up of sand ( against the breakwater when it is established, thereby further impeding navigation. We have not yet questioned the right of the owner to the existing grant lines but call your attention to the fact that the grant required that the unappropriated and the unapplied portion of the grant reverted to the State if it was not appropriated and applied within two years of the 1838 granting. There was evidence that only steamboat wharf was then constructed, so that we now face the prospect that if what is reasonable from a navigation standpoint is something less than the eastern grant line. And perhaps if the developer is relinquishing any claim to the grant area, or that area is less than originally made because of the two year requirement, then the one hundred and fifty foot incursion past the Eastern grant line will not only have to be eliminated but an additional distance, perhaps to the existing use will become what is reasonable in the circumstances. We would welcome your determination that the developer is bound by the grant's boundaries, or in the alternative that reasonable use would either coincide with or comprise less than such boundaries, perhaps present use. As an alternative, and perhaps you will consider this as means of resolving the matter, and we would have no problem with ( it since it offers both sides the "opportunity to assert our respective positions in a public forum. There is nothing to prevent the developer from applying to the General Services administration of New York State, whose jurisdiction includes the bay bottom which is owned by the State for an additional grant to accomplish what he proposes. There will then be notice and hearing as part of that process, and the developer's rights will be preserved as will ours and you will not be making a decision with respect to which another agency may have greater or concurrent jurisdiction. A few additional items. Parking spaces are a function of use and size. The plan appears to provide one hundred and seventy seven spaces and requires one hundred and fifty six, an average of twenty one. More careful scrutiny discloses that sixty six boat slips are permanent requiring eighty three spaces for cars, and that seventy one slips are transient requir~g no spaces for cars. Earmarking slips as transient or permanent enables the developer to meet whatever code requirements are involved. We believe the ratio of Slips between permanent and transient is unrealistic and when the real world imposes itself on this plan, and transient slips are rented or used by seasonal boaters, the-parking requirements will have been circumvented. The same is true for a number of slips designat~d for use by one hundred foot, eighty foot and sixty foot boats. Obviously slips L-- for two hundred foot boats can be used by six - thirty foot ~ boats; several eighty foot Slips can accommodate eighty - twenty foot boats and so on. This can make a mockery of any limitations , Planning Boare . Page 5 . . December 19, 1988 ( you propose, so that it is obvious that the plan requires more leeway than the reported twenty one. The developer proposes room for close to one hundred and fifty boats - again six time the present capacity of twenty five. It should be obvious to you that the marina, post office, store and restaurant complex requires at least two hundred and fifty parking spaces. If he proposes to provide one hundred and seventy seven. Something has to give. ( We do prefer off site water to reverse osmosis. We are pleased that only one stage of the development is planned. we remain concerned about raising the height of the site and ask you again that by installing shallower cesspools, but more of them. The same volume of effluent can be processed, but the height of the project can be reduced. On page forty four the DEIS asks the question, "Will the project impact the scallop beds?" and unequivocally states "The answer is no". This is completely untrue as anyone who has dredged for scallops in the area knows. I know this of my own knowledge as does everyone else who scalloped. The western side of Cutchogue Harbor along the shore from one hundred feet to one thousand feet out all the way to Southold past the site along the western side of Robins Island has always been an excellent spot for scallops. Brown tide affected them in recent years but with its disappearance and reseeding effects, this should once again become a fertile area. On Friday, a week ago, I met with Richard Carr and his attorney, Jack Hart, at his request. The purpose was to enable us to explain our respective positions. It was a pleasant meeting without outward rancor or any sign of disagreeableness. We have no interest crucifying him. I explained our position to him in the two words - TOO BIG. He explained that the project's size was dictated by what was needed to finance it, attract investors and meet resulting carrying charges and return on investment. He advised me that if going forward was met with continuing delay, he would opt for selling the property, probably to a restaurateur who might not provide the kind of quality establishment he proposes and who would probably not enlarge the marina capacity or establish a needed boat yard. I informed the committee of his stated intent. The reaction was that of the alternatives, the community would prefer that if he is unwilling or unable to downsize the project that we would prefer a less ambitious restaurant and marina, more in keeping with the unpretentiousness of the area and its people. Richarq Carr has since advised me that he may be prepared ~~,scale back the marina by sixty feet, which we feel is inadequE~e but a step in the right direction. We would like to see the process proceed since we have no control over it. l . In the correspondence and the additional information section on page A17 the deed description is entitled\Rider to Deed from Marine Associates,Inc. to James Arthur Kenniff and Jonathan Rosin, dated November 10, 1987. But the Insurance ........-... ~.'!' Plannin Boa. Page " December 19, 1988 policy refers to a deed dated that day from Marine ( Associates,Inc. to Shamrock Properties Corp. No such deed exists or was ever recorded. Probably a mistake has been made. Until this is resolved, the impact, if any, of the inclusion of these documents in the DEIS should.be ignored. Furthermore, no one other than the title company is bound by any position it takes or the DEIS purports it takes. The DEIS, on page 15 asserts that the salient point is found in the legal description of the property which includes all lands under water, but fails to point out that the title company's exception number 5 which excepts rights of the State of New York or any department or agency to regulate and control the use of the piers, bulkheads or land underwater and and land adjacent there to. While the title company recognizes the State's possible juriSdiction, the DEIS selectively adopts what appears to serve its purpose and ignores what it does not. As I have already pointed out the deed description in the covenants I have submitted to you does not include any reference to the underwater grant which we have been discussing. On page twenty four of the supplement to the DEIS the statement is made that the site has been raised an average of four feet. On page thirty eight of the same document in response number thirty one the statement is made that the site been raised three feet. Which is correct? ( In response number forty there is a statement that filling in is not an appropriation. We disagree and call your attention to the fact the owner had two years to fill in the area. That time period having expired in 1840, we challenge the conclusion that the owner still has this right. To conclude, we feel that most of the problems we face are in here, in the site and the fact that the developer is attempting to construct a marina in an exposed bay area rather then in a creek, inlet, a cove or another protected area where most marinas locate. The cost to build the marine structures needed here in fifteen feet of water are tremendous. These costs create the catch twenty two situation that makes the project grow further to justify the huge cost and to help defray it. The developer's problems and costs in aquiring title, create the same pressure. But who is to bear the cost. The developer? or the people of the State of New York by providing excessive bay bottom or the community by having imposed on it a project who~e size is dictated by costs stemming from unwanted a~~umptions, questionable jUdgement and dubious site selection?~:lectric utilities are precluded from including them in such cost as their rate base. Perhaps it's time Planning Boards take them into account in approving site plans. . Now.you have a sense of where we are coming from and the ~ basis for our Objections. We don't believe the huge armada of boats the plan contemplates is permissible, reasonable, .;::--..-". ...,..........- Planning Boa. . Page 7 . . December 19, 1988 ( environmentally sound or does not impede navigation. As that wonderful Fats Waller song goes- and perhaps only we old timers remember it and you youngsters don't remember it, Richard _ "Can't love you cause your fleets too big." Mr. Orlowski: Any other comments from my left here. ( Mr. HOlzapfel: (CAC) I just have a few questions, environmentally in terms of this particular project. First and foremost I am mostly concerned with this reverse osmosis and the salinity change that is going to occir. If you read through the plan, it is quite obvious that they are putting water back that is much more salty and, in turn, much more dense, That water is going to settle at the bottom. There will be some mixing, but it will still be settling on the bottom. That is going to increase the salinity, I don't know how much. I had asked the question originally. I wanted to have it answered much clearer, but it didn't seemed to be answered. That salinity along the bottom could layer and be a much more dense and continuous layer of high salinity water. You heard earlier that the brown tide caused the scallops to disappear and a lot of other things. The main theory proposed of the brown tide has been an increase of salinity in the bays. Three summers ago or four summers ago was the third driest summer in the last forty five years. The wheather patterns produced a condition that changed the salinity of the bays dramatically. The water became much more salty. The common theory tOday is, one of the most common theories, is that it could be an oceanic species that came into the bay. In other words, it is a salt water species that came into the bay because of the higher salinity. That is how it came in and that is how it developed. Perhaps that is why it flourished because it did not have any competitors that it has out in the ocean. Now we are gOing to influence that salinity. I ask you to think about that carefully. That salinity might be Changing. That answer, as far as I was concerned, the answer to the fact whether that salinity is going to layer out on the bottom is not SUfficiently .answered. ( A second point again, that has already been mentioned but I bring it back, is that there is a scallop bed area there, it is well known and that area is being taken away from the people of Southold. It is something to be concerned with. Something to be at least thoughtful about in your considerations. Another point that I would like to bring up is that, the answer to one of the questions dealing with heavy metals from boats, in terms of cleanup. I think the people that prepared the particular environmental impact statement did not understand the question that was asked. Because it asked "will there be an increase in heavy metals-due to the maintenance of the boats?" I think most people are familiar that bottom paint is definitly something that kills off marine organisms. That is what it is designed to do. When you pull your boat out of the water and you scrap the bottom and sand the bottom, you are Cleaning the bottom. All of that goes into the land or the ramp where you are doing it. If Plannin Boa. Page v December 19, 1988 they are going to be doing the boat maintenance right there, that is going to come back into the bay. The question was asked and it was dismissed, rather clearly, that there wasn't any problem. I don't think that was the case. It has been the pOlicy of the Trustees to have that.included in most marinas that are undergoing any permitting now. They ask for a catch basin so that toxic bottom scraping can be collected and not be distributed right on the bottom, right in the marina. So again, that is something that you might want to consider in your deliberation. I believe it is something that should be included in the plan. As it is now, it is not. ( Another thing that was brought up early and I will mention is just the possibility that, again it is something to think about, the existence of house boats in that area. I don't know what you can do about it but it is something to be considered. If they put in one hundred boats and those people move out on those boats and spend everyday of the whole summer you've now got one hundred condominiums , but they are floating. I know there is not any real law on the books, but it is something to be considered and something that you should at least weigh in your decisions. The house boat situation should at least be addressed. Also in terms of boats, I am not saying that boaters are polluters, but when you have lots of boats you have some pollution. You can go through any of the marina's that are here. The waters are closed in a number of them simply because there are a large number of boats. Usually there are only a couple of people or a few people who will address that problem. The problem is with lots of boats, you get pollution. That has to be, I don't know what to do. The project in my estimation is a little bit too large and that if you brake it down, the possibility of damage to the environment would be decreased. So that is another thing that you should at least consider. Two other points ~hat I would mention is the runoff. Again, it's talked about a two inch maximum as being what is planned for. The question is asked what if there is more than two inches? There is a number of answers there and that is something to be considered. I think that the answer to the response was ten percent of storms or greater than two inches of rain fall. what is going to happen when that runoff goes into the bay? I am sure, again, that you are all familiar that ninety or ninety two percent of the bacteria that ends up in the bay comes from road runoff. Are we going to permit or are you going to permit ~n that particular design of this project that to happened ten percent of the storms? A number of creeks are already closed due to the large bacteria counts or are we just going to add to the problem? Finally, just one point, I am not sure if it is a major point but something to at least think about. The boat basin itself is gotng to be a ten foot dredging. On both sides of that the water is relatively shallow. Is it going to. create a hole there? Tides go up and down, water moves back and forth. Is that water sitting on the bottom going to sit there all the time? The flushing rate in that hole will be much lowered. It is something, again, to consider. One end is open, and I understand ( ~ ~ , Planning Boa~. . page 9 . . December 19, 1988 ( that. I think that it might be considered and might be looked into. Thank you. Mr. Orlowski: Any other comments from this side? ( Mr. Wickham: My name is John Wickham, from Wickham Fruit Farm in Cutchogue. We happen to own almost half the land in New Suffolk School District if you discount Robins Island. I have spoken before in this connection and I will try not to repeat myself. I have basically two concerns, first I will say that I agree with Joe Fenton that this plan is a little much. I want to go back a little in saying I do favor a marina there and some very real reasons for me. I recall playing on the hull of the old submarine. It was on the first set of weighs there soon after the Holland torpedo boat people left. I also took part in loading potatoes on ships at Goldsmith/Tuthill Dock's. I want to talk, however, briefly about reverse osmosis. I visited a reverse osmosis plant in Florida. They are effective, there is no question about that. In spite of what the previous speaker said, it is possible to return to the sea water that is less salty. But to do that you have to have a supply, which is obviously less salty. In other words, a reverse osmosis plant might use salt water for a supply which is anticipating. You could also put a well in, say ten feet inland, and presumably discharge water slightly less salty than the salt. Or you could go further inland and return discharge water substantially less salty. The problem with both of these second cases is that you would have to take sufficient volume to seriously impact the wells of a large part of that east facing slop of New Suffolk. In other words the neighbors will bare the brunt of it. This is a thing where there are too many variables to really put an answer down in black and white. I want the Planning Board to be aware of some legal action that was put on the books some years, ago, where permit or permits were given by municipalities under the assumption that.there will be adequate water. Through factors not of their own making, the developer determine that they did not, in fact, have enough water and took the cases to court. The court found that the municipality must make water available. That is a position I do not want the Town of Southold To get into. I do not know quite how it can be handled. Perhaps a covenant, that under no possible circumstances would the developer ever come back to the Town of Southold or the County of Suffolk to make water available. I want to make very sure that this question is addressed. l I want to address, that has been mentioned twi:'le. That is the under water grant line. To me somewhat of an h~.~torical buff. Our people came here from England and other European nations where the landlord owned the game, the fish and the water. When our people came to the new world they said it is not go~ng to be that way. The game, the fish, the water is going to belong to everyone. I uphold that tradition and I say to you I will use every effort in my power to make sure that what belongs ., .-.:.:.,~~~ ~-..:". Planni. Boo Page .LD December 19, 1988 to all of us is not taken over by someone or some agency for ( private use. Thank you very much. Mr. Orlowski: Any other comments from my left? Hearing none, any comments from the center section? Mr. Bluid: My name is John Bluid, I live on Old Harbor Road in New Suffolk. This is a small comment about a statement in the supplement to the Draft Environmental Impact Statement about water wells, page thirteen under comment number ten. About twelve lines down from the top there is a statement that seems to me to be somewhat naive. They say there is obvious test well work that all wells will all be about forty feet when actually anybody with experience with water wells close to the shore knows that less shallower water will also be salty as soon as they start to draw up very much water out of it. However, the important question is about, the well supply will be constructed below the confining pad. The depth's probably about one hundred and twenty two feet. This is a very unpredictable operation. I have some experience with a well drilled on the southshore of Long Island, on the Great South Bay where the underground situation is very similar to what it is here. My well driller suggested that I should find water one hundred feet down below the clay. Actually, the well finding came four hundred feet down. I raise that question. Mr. Orlowski: Any other comments from the center section? ( Mrs. Wacker: My name is Ronnie Wacker and I am with the North Fork Environmental Council and thank you for the opportunity for me to address this Board on the Impact Statement for the Marina Bay Club. The Planning Board's decision will affect what the developer Richard Carr and his associates can make on the proposed shipyard complex. That money will soon be spent'or invested in other a~eas, far from here perhaps. We mayor may not see Mr. Carr ana his associates again. Your decision will also have a far more lasting impact on several hundred people who live in this quiet fishing hamlet and want to stay here. It could turn the little community upside down. The Carr complex as proposed would outdazzle anything ever seen in this tiny hamlet. The plans include slips for one hundred and thirty seven boats, a three hundred seat restaurant, more than three times the size of the Galley-ho and a parking lot for a hundred and fifty six cars. All this on three plus acres. Everything is jumbo scale. The impact on this quiet fishing center, if you decide to " approve such amount of scheme, is easily imagined. ..'loise, lights, traffic, congestion. Perhaps rowdyism. Nig~~time will never be dark in New Suffolk again. But there are other problems attacking many more of us than in New Suffolk. Because there is so little drinking water on fit of glaciar morain the developer pr~poses to take bay water, strain the salt from it and serve up what is left as drinking water, returning the unwantdd salt to ~ the bay. This will increase the salinity of peconic Bay water. As we already know, the smallest change in salinity can have .::--~- ~T-":"" Planning Boar~ ~ Page 11 ~ . December 19, 1988 ( disastrous impact on shellfish, which have been severely impacted by other environmental salt already. The Suffolk County Department of Health Services has expressed deep concern over this desaliniation process which has not been used on anything like the scale proposed here.anywhere on Long Island. Then, also what happens when the.desaliniation pumps fail. We all know that they will at some time or another. The proposal as presently offered will reach out five hundred and twenty feet into the Bay: about fifty further than the developer has rights to from a New York State grant. This will also make a difference to people in this area who sail their boats into and out of Cutchogue Harbor. All this adds up to, gentlemen, is that this proposal is just too darn big. The very charm of a hamlet, and Mr. Carr expects to attract visitors to, will be destroyed by the size of this project. Up Island people can find the same tawdry glider, noise and carbon monoxide closer to home. You know Port Jefferson, Coney Island. We are not saying that Mr. Carr should not be allowed build something out here. I think in general people in New Suffolk welcome a good construction along their water front. But, please make it something reasonable. Something whose size will not overcrowd a small community. We are asking you, the members of the Planning Board, simply to trim this project down to size. To stop Mr. Carr and his friends from the killing the goose that they hope will get them a crate of golden eggs. Thank you. ( Mr. Orlowski: Anyone else from the center section? Mrs. Larsen: Ellen Larsen. Good evening Gentlemen. FOllowing the obvious that there is no portable water supply and a proposed sewage treatment. Which suggest you are in one hundred feet of the peconic Bay and Cutchogue Harbor. Which I find almost laughable to a certain extent considering that this is the nineteen nineties and we have a system call SEQRA. I raise the following questions with regard to the DEIS. Through my review I really found no significant changes since the public hearing from November of 1987. The numbers have been shuffled somewhat but the results are basically the same proposal. I would suggest or hope that the draft as it proposes of the Marina Bay Club realize that a more formal review, of the environmental review is required pursuant to SEQRA to satisfactorily meet the standards required by the Town of Southold Planning Board. And raised at the public hearing of 1987. Specifically in regards to dredging water supply, sewage treatment, marine habitat and riparian rights. There is no potable drinking water at the site hence the RO unit. . ( Evidence contrary to the proposal has been documented stating areaS with moderate iron concentration can cause filter problems with these systems. This needs to be addressed further. Pretreatment would obviously be necessary before the water can enter a RO unit effectively. Effects on the fresh water land through the primary pumping have not been discussed. Liz Casper from SUNY at Stony Brook and Robert Nuzzi of the Suffolk County , Plannir Boa Page 2 December 19. r988 Department of Public Health have stated repeatedly that increased salinity enhances the brown tide bloom - awrocoxins anorixefeuris. A diffusion system would be an absolute necessity. A direct influence on increased salinity increases the brown tide, which we are ,just beginning to understand. ( Significant eel grass beds are established offshore at the site of question of the of the riparian rights. Eel grass beds, beside functioning as a nursery to scallop spawn, seed and mature - alalquipectin and eradiance- enable the sediments to gently settle rather than plop to down to the bottom. Totally and I repeat totally protected measures would have to be insured to insure the survival of these limited beds. Coliform counts can go right through the roof during major holidays. The consequence of repeated high counts cause increased shellfish area closures. How will this be addressed with the amounts of boats? TBT paints are antifouling and kill marine organisms in minute concentrations and they are directly released into the water column. The sewage treatment plant within one hundred feet needs fail safe measure to act for malfunction. In lieu of the Town of Riverhead's experience with the denitrification sewage plant it is your obligation to review thoroughly and hard the proposed measures. Keep in mind that the developers must bear the cost of any additional and environmental review you justify feasible. ( My final point deals with the proposed riparian rights. What are the riparian rights of the people of the State of New York and the loss of public bottom to private enterprise through an expired eighteen thirty eight grant. This in essence is a challengable assumption made by the drafters of the proposed Marina Bay Club. Five hundred and eighteen feet into Peconic Bay could mean one, thousand five hundred and eighteen feet in the future for a future developer. The confiscation of public bottom is not allowed by law. Obviously the land they have purchased is not enough. Seemingly at the bargain price of seven thousand two hundred and eighty one dollars in tax revenue to the Town of Southold. They are hungry confiscating additional public lands at no additional cost to them. I ask you at what future price to the Town of Southold and the Peconic system. You can not give away what does not rightfully belong to you. As officials of the Town please do not succumb to the assumption that the submission of a DEIS means the ultimate approval of an over zealous and detrimental plan. In retrospect imagine the proposal either on Fishers Island or in Orient themselves. ' Traffic flows and air pollution are in themselves are grounds to significantly mitigate the proposed scope of this project. Thank you. ~ Mr. Orlowski: Any other comments from anyone in the middle? '& , ;~ .',.,.'r' Planning Boa. . Page 13 . . December 19, 1988 ( Mr. lowery: My name is Tom lowery. I live on Jackson Street in New Suffolk just like Joe Fenton, but I live at the low scale end. Which means I live at the very near of the proposed development. I feel that I have a special interest in what will happen here. The marina, the restaurant, by the way nobody so far has mentioned the dry storage facility. Any dry storage facility requires a fork lift truck and they are industrious and noisy. Means that if Mr. Carr wants to go out a tenth of mile into Cutchogue Harbor. That is a long way. I went out five hundred and twenty feet last summer in my small boat. I felt that I was dam near out of site of land. That one hundred and fifty additional feet amounts to one and a third additional acres. It seems to me that Mr. Carr's need to use that additional part of the bay bottom, which he clams is reasonable, is reasonable only by virtue of the fact that he needs to do it, he says. It worries me. ( The project as planned will also use as much spoke of R.O. plant. Similarly hightech sewage plant both of which will require extensive and constant maintenance. If Marina Bay succeeds in selling the developement as it has already tried to do, it has put ads in the papers for property for two and half million dollars. There is no insurance of any new owner would be as responsible as Mr. Carr promises he will be. All this high tech stuff raises disagreeable smells from the denitrification plant harm to the shellfish in the bay and additional strains are proposed on our already fragile water tables. Four years ago my house burned and shortly after that there was a big northeaster. The northeaster was of such consequence that our well water shortly after the storm began to effervese. It was effervesecing with marshgas. The northeaster screwed up the water table so much that it was several years before we could use our well again. Mr. Carr has some what of an unusual point of view in the underwater land grant. He says that he can do what ever is reasonable. The situations which he gives in the DEIS seem to this laymen at least to be quite irrelevant. The findings of what the Marina Bay Club comes down to is this, one man wants to develop a very small portion of New Suffolk so more people would be attracted to it then live in all of New Suffolk. It would be a giant wort on the east shore of New Suffolk. What we would like him to do is build handsome new marina that would allow us to continue in our small town ways without overwhelming us with the swales, the lights, the noises, the automobiles and the " crowds of a major production. Thank you., " Mr. Orlowski: Any other comments from this section? .c-. l Plannins ,oa:r Page December 19, 1988 Mr. Latson: My name is Steve Latson, I am secretary to the Baymens Association. I thought it was understood at one point that before the brown tide the area in front of the Galley Ho was a scallop bed. This seems to have been lost maybe to the brown tide. I think the problem is that they can't defend that if scallops do come back they will be taking one of the most productive scallop beds on all of the North Fork. Year after year that area always has scallops, not because of the eel grass beds but because of codium beds. The Codium serves as excellent site for the scallops to set. The only other thought that I had on this whole thing was, well I have had a lot of thoughts on it, I just think that people just don't want the project. It is way to big. Everything that has been expressed is correct, essentially. On important aspects. Riparian rights already exist. You have access to navigable water right this minute. Certainly I don't see why you have to go any further. Also I did read that deed of 1838 a couple of months ago. I actually have it here. It says, "If our said grantees and our heirs on assigned shall not within two years from said date actually appropriate and apply all and every part of the bolk described land for the purposes of the province by erecting dock and wharfs there are and filling in the same. Then these presents here in contained shall seize and determine so far as he lays any part of the granted premises that have not have been so appropriated or apply. I think that is it. It is a scallop bed, people don't want it, the project is way too big. If Mr. Carr is ( trying to set up Dick's Boat Yard or Shipyard maybe expanded from twenty four slips, or to forty five slips. I think people would think it was a good idea. I said instead of going in and knocking down a hole facility that was there already, why don't they just fix it up. That is what I would have done if I bought it. Maybe fix up the restaurant a little, put in a few more seats. Not all of this R.O. which was mentioned, salt water is heavier then fresh, the saltier the water the heavier it. is. It will settle down were the scallops spawn. They do need a certain '., amount of fresh water. The best years for scallops are when it rains a lot. There is jus one thing after another. It is New York City, not Southold. Thank you. ( Mr. Orlowski: Any other comments from this side? Mrs. Robins: My name is Joan Robins. My husband and I live in New Suffolk on Main Street the north east corner of third and Main. Too Big. My living room is thirteen feet long. My property is one hundred feet. Five times that must be going up Pike " Street all the way over to Cleave. I couldn't even.1ee that far. Beyond that when you start messing around with ou~:ater you are tampering with our lives. And when you fool around with the very water you are tampering with as things that live in. the water that is important to us. My husband and I would like to see a marina. We would like to see a small good resturuant, But we L__ think it. is. too big. \ ~ ".". "--'... ......--. -~. --.~---,,,,...,-,, Planning Boar~ . Page 15 . . December 19, 1988 ( Mr. Orlowski: Any other comments from this side? Are there any other comments? Mr. Hart: Mr. Chairman and members of the Board, I am John Hart of the firm of Pelletreau and Pelletreau in Patchogue, representing Mr. Carr~ We started in July of 1987 with the first draft of the Environmental Impact statement. There have been a supplement and a second supplement since that time. The developer is not asking for anything more then he is entitled to under the zoning ordinance of the Town of Southold and of the law of the State of New York and the United States. We would submit that questions which have been raised here this evening are answered in the documents which you now have and we would ask that the Board prepare the Final Environmental Impact Statement. Thank you. Mr. Orlowski: Any other comments? Mr. Lowery: Did I understand Mr. Hart to say that you were going to prepare the Final Environmental Impact Statement? Mr. Orlowski: I believe he said that, yes. Any other comments? Comments from the Board? Mr. Mullen? Mr. Mullen: No. ( Mr. Orlowski: Mr. Latham? Mr. Latham: No comments. Mr. Orlowski: Mr. Ward? Mr. Ward: No. Mr. Orlowski: Mr. Edwards. Mr. Edwards: No, not at this time. Mr. Orlowski: Ms. Scopaz. Ms. Scopaz: No, not at this time. Mr. Orlowski: O.K. I will declare this hearing closed. Mr. Fenton: One comment. I understand that the time to file written comment is open till January sometime. Mr. Orlowski: Yes, it is January 4th. ( Mr. Hart: If I am correct and I would have to check my dates, I am not sure that is the correct date. Whatever time it is, it is fixed by law and of course that is a matter of record. Assuming that there is that goes beyond the date we would object to it. Plannin, ,oar Page ~ December 19, '1 'J88 Mr. Fenton: I don't want to make a legal argument out of this ( but I don't think you are in a position until he has asked that you make some determination until the time has expired. Mr. Orlowski: Right. Mr. Hart: Again, Mr. Fenton and I have gone back and forth and all I can say is whatever the law is Joe, that is the law and we are all bound by it. Mr. Orlowski: O.K. I will declare this hearing closed and thank you for coming. ****************************** Mr. Orlowski: Board to keep the public hearing open from October 14, 1988 open, pending receipt of revised preliminary maps. This affordable housing project is located on Fishers Island. SCTM ~1000-6-2-3.1. Mr. Mullen: So moved. Mr. Latham: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards.<= Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. ****************************** Mr. Orlowski: Board to set Monday, January 9, 1989 at 7:30 p.m. at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road Southold as the time and place for the next regular Planning Board meeting. Mr. Edwards: So moved. Mr. Ward: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. ****************************** Mr. Orlowski: Subdivisions-final: Peter Blank- Board to make a determination on the final maps dated as amended October 4, 1988. This minor subdivision is on 160,000. sq.~t. located at Orient. SCTM ~1000-27-4-p/o 10.1. Everything is in order to approve and endorse. ~. . , The undersigned. being the owner of the follovin~ property. ALL that certain plot. piece or parcel of land. situate. lying and being at New Suffolk. Town of Southold. County of Suffolk and State of New York. bounded and described as follows: BEGINNING at a point on the easterly side of First Street at the southwest corner of the pre.ises herein described where the division line between said pre.ises and the land now or for.erly of the Radel Oyster Co.pany adjoining on the South intersects the said easterly side of First Street: RUNNING THENCE North 60 54' 30" East. along the easterly side of First Street. 211.02 feet to the corner for.ed by the intersection of the easterly side of First Street with the southerly side of Main Street: THENCE South 830 45' East. along the southerly side of Main Street. 193.50 feet to the southeast corner of said Main Street: THENCE North 60 IS' .inutes East. along the easterly end of Main Street. 49.50 feet to the northeast corner of Main Street: THENCE North 830 45' Nest. along the northerly side of Main Street. 192.94 feet to the corner for.ed by the intersection of the northerly side of Main Street with the easterly side of First Street: THENCE along the easterly side of First Street. North 60 54' 30" East. 272.45 feet to the land for.erly of David H. King: THENCE South 830 47' 30" East. along said last .entioned land to peconic Bay: THENCE in a general southerly direction along Peconic Bay to the northerly line of land of Radel Oyster Co.pany: THENCE along said land of Radel Oyster Co.pany. North 830 OS' 03" Nest. to the easterly side of First Street at the point or place of BEGINNING. does hereby covenant and agree. that as a condition of the approval of the site plan for "Marina Bay Club" by the Town of Southold. it is covenanted and agreed that: 1. At no ti.e will there be erected on the premises a structure to be used for residential purposes. 00 ~@~DW~ DEe I .. 00 SOUTHOlD TOWN PLANNING BOARD ...J . .- -","->",,-~ ...._~.,'-\._...;..:-.'..-.,.......'"... . . . . ~ j' "-'.'1 ~I I I . - - . I I I I I . . - - . "_".c:-~=~ 2. ~--None of-the boats .oored or docked at the pre.ises shall be used for residential purposes. i.e. sleeping aboard overnight. except that transient users of boat slips .ay stay on their boats overnight provided their use is occasional and not regular. ~. This covenant is created for the benefit of the Town of Southo1d and all present and future residents of the Ha.1et of New Suffolk. so long as they re.ain residents. By: 06U(1-2) - i. . ~- ~..._.._-._....~--- . . .. ~ ,..-"" "TAftCCOP'lIa~-~~'-~~" ---.~~~ ) ss.: COUNTY OF SUFFOLK) 5-1 On the ~ J day of July. 1986 before .e personally ca.e RICHARD T. CARR. to .e known. who being by .e dulf sw~n. did depose and say that he resides at No. i../41f~lrfpf't..~ VUA Ju,{ IIFb~rr : that he is the President of Marina Bay Club. Ltd.. the' I' (J corporation described in which executed the foregoing instru.ent: that he knows the seal of said corporation: that the seal affixed to said instru.ent is such corporate seal: that it vas so affixed by order of the Board of Directors of said corporation. and he signed his na~there~ by Jike 8 or~er. r-- JANETF.IlAEBal __ ~ flDTARY Pll811~ Slate II f, 1 Nota-ry I r':;.1:1f3I, Su,**, c".":- 06U(3) ......II.rd! 30,19::27 . ~ ;)~~i~::~ J - ~ . . . . -'!-- ',;;-'i,":';\",:i..' ~. 'F'. - ~., ,., ,,:,., ."......-, ,~' -:-f1j~~l~~~~:~:- '~5St:~t~::~:;:~..;.~~:" MARINA BAY CLUB T a. . . . . PETER Y. SNYDER JOHN J. HART JOHN J. ROE, III FREDERIC L. ATWOOD J. TIMOTHY SHEA BRUCE T. WALLACE KEVIN A. SEAMAN VANESSA M. SHEEHAN" BENJAMIN L. HERZWEIG PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW 20 CHURCH STREET. BOX 110 PATCHOGUE. NEW YORK 11772 TEL. 516 447-8900 FAX 516 475-5651 ROBERT S. PELLETREAU ~18el-I.""3) RICHARD A. SCHOENFELD (1950-1980) ROBERT H. PEL.L.ETREAU OF COUNSEL RUSSELL C. BURCHERl 0 DOUGLAS J. LEROSE BRIAN McCAFFREY JAMES G. HYLAND 447-8906 Ilno) ~ & ~ 0 Iln R fflJ d Ir~- '8 l, n tlrlll 1 II' IULlJ. DEe 2, _ UIi!,.! L .,-..1. L-... ; .1 , ~----~ ~ so.un:U!.D TOw;;q--i j' --!L<\I'.Ji'JlI\IG BO.1RD j ....._..._'-~___;_l "ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA o ALSO ADMITTED IN NEW JERSEY December 20. 1988 Town of Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold. New York 11971 Attn: Hon. Bennett Orlowski. Jr. Chairman. Planning Board RE: MARINA BAY CLUB Dear Chairman Orlowski: We would like to take this opportunity to thank you for the time given to our group at last evening's pUblic hearing on the DEIS for the above project. We are in the process of drafting our responses to the questions raised and shall forward same to you in the near future. As per 105 N.Y. Compo Codes R. and Regs. Tit. 6 S617.8(e) (1987). it is our understanding that the lead agency will prepare the FEIS within forty-five (45) calendar days after the close of the pUblic hearing. The outside date (from 12/19/88) would. therefore. be February 2. 1988. Thank you for your cooperation. very truly yours. P~REAU & PELLETREAU JO;-~ JFH:hmm cc: See additional Rider lU/69 .. .~ i r' . . Rider December 20, 1988 Hon. Francis J. Murphy Hon. Ellen Larsen Hon. Ruth Oliva Hon George L. Penny IV Hon. Raymond W. Edwards Hon. Jean W. Cochran James Schondebare, Esq, Town Attorney Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner Richard Ward, Member of the Planning Board Richard Latham, Member of the Planning Board William Mullen, Member of the Planning Board Kenneth Edwards, Member of the Planning Board David Emilita Judith Terry, Town Clerk Richard Carr Jean Celender Henry Raynor Holzmacher, McLendon & Murrell Att: Sam McLendon Dravo Van Houten, Inc Att: Clem Cameron Niego Associates Att: Sol Niego Dunn Engineering, P.C. Att: Walter Dunn B. Laing Associates Att: Michael Bontje Saland Real Estate Att: David Saland Young & Young Att: Howard Young lU/70 . -'7_p, LW4L NOTICE: 'h~ fII' l'Vb11 Burlng W{ffiCE IS 'W:-.IiliY GIVEN that d ""Jant to S""ttion 216 of the To~ , j' a pubIie hwing will bo, held by h sSooIbold Town Pll11llinn Board, elhe Town Hall, Main Road.. "li(i1thold, New Yark in said Town OR ,81 191h day of Dcccmber, 198800 Je question of the following: l 7:30 p.m. Public hearinl~ on the Supplement Number Twel to the Draft Environmental Impact State- ment with rcspc<:t to Marm8 Bay Club, located at the Town 0 f Southold. Colmty of Suffolk" and ~ State of Ntw Yode.. Suffolk County Tax Mop No.I()()()"1l7-8-18. SEQR lead ~cy is the Southold Town Plannin& loan:l. CopU:s of me Supplement NUbber Twe. \0 the Draft Bnviromftentl( DO_N. State- ment arc on file at the ()ff~:e of f1e Soulbold Town PI_niD. Board, Town HaU, Main Road, Southold. New Yark, and may be reviewed dur- ing regularbuS~' hOUrs.. Any penon < lobel on the above maller d apr at the time and place speCdied. ~ DIUld: December6,I988 BY ORDER OF TIlE SOUTIIOlD TOWN PlANNING BOARD BENNETT ORLOWSKI, JR. OIAIRMAN 6146-ITDS . . STATE OF NEW YORK) )SS: COUNTY OF SUFFOLK) Christina Contento of Matlituck, In said County, being duly sworn, says that he/she Is Principal Clerk of THE SUFFOLK TIMES, a Weekly Newspaper, published at Malllluck, In the Town of Southold, County of Suffolk and State of New York, and that the Notice of which the annexed Is a printed copy, has been regularly published In said Newspaper once each week for --.l..... weeks successively, commencing on the 8 _ day of Dprpmhpr 19---13..8 \ i " .'1 , . i'" , ^ 'i'" , #_ j I Y !J. :-fly \, " i:. K P' Principal Clerk /-\ Sworn to be,fA;, this " ) day of ",.k. 19L lM,;/}!;'e.,.I;/(,A ^\I; :J.vv'.- /L..-- i;"'i..r -j , _ -._. \4 ./ - , ~jfCJ ( .. D .JR. CHAIRMAN IX. 1218/88 (47) . . . . COUNTY OF SUFFOLK STATE OF NEW YORK 55: Patricia Wood, being duly sworn, says that she is the Editor. of THE LONG ISLAND TRAVELER-WATCHMAN, a public newspaper printed at Southold, in Suffolk County; and that the notice of which the annexed is a printed wpy, has been published in said Long Island Traveler-Watccman once each week for. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ~ . . . \\eeks successively, commencing on the. . J (!"of , C .-', .>.''''." . c, \. C~/.:)~-~-~~~~ .\ .\ 19. .,/^ " I, \ ,- Sworn to before me th is . c- o,t. I ...';.. day of .... .!v.:L.L;[~.,:".'-/-:":-:-' 19. J .) ) ...1 cJa..."".,,,~ /f. .<-f'jtf'.:n~ .'~{' .'. Notary Public 8MWARA A. SCHNEIDER NOTr~HY FUW:C, St;jt~-, af Nsw YDrk ih. ,180684G Q ,0'1, "" "uif-' rOilY .,_U~.I~:t;~~;i.,,:''''> ;.l,:\ '-'u: ,k. C0,l.;,'iS"",,, ,r:: ~ 1/"/ ~ ~-k:--- &fb (\0--<<\ tJ:o.. ~ OA\ ~ ----~.. " LEGALS NOTICE Notice of P~blic Hearing NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that pursuant to Section 276 of the Town Law, a public hearing will be held by the Southold Town Planning Board, at the Town Hall, Main Road Southold, New York in said Town on the 19th day of December, 1988 on the question of the following: 7:30 p.m. Public hearing on the Supplement Number Two to the Draft Environmental Impact Statement with respect to Marina Bay Club, located at the Town of Southqld, County of Suffolk, and the State of New York. Suffolk County Tax Map No. 1000-117-8-18. SEQR lead agency is the Southold Town Planning Board. Copies of the Supplement Number Two to the Draft Environmental Impact Statement are on file at the office of the Southold Town Planning Board, Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York, and may be reviewed during regular business hours. Any person desiring to be heard on the above matter should appear at the time and place specified. Dated: December 6, 1988 BY ORDER OF THE SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD BENNETT ORLOWSKI,JR. CHAIRMAN PLEASE PRINT ONCE ON THURSDAY December 8th AND FORWARD ONE (1) AFFIDAVIT TO THIS OFFICE, THANK YOU. COPIES SENT TO: " Long Island Travler/Watchman Suffolk Times U02J~ \' (\~ "~.uAC'~ t3~ LEGALS NOTICE Notice of Public Hearing NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that pursuant to Section 276 of the Town Law, a public hearing will be held by the Southold Town Planning Board, at the Town Hall, Main Road Southold, New York in said Town on the 19th day of December, 1988 on the question of the following: 7:30 p.m. Public hearing on the Supplement Number Two to the Draft Environmental Impact Statement with respect to Marina Bay Club, located at the Town of Southold, County of Suffolk, and the State of New York. Suffolk County Tax Map No. 1000-117-8-18. SEQR lead agency is the Southold Town Planning Board. Copies of the Supplement Number Two to the Draft Environmental Impact Statement are on file at the Office of the Southold Town Planning Board, Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York, and may be reviewed during regular business hours. Any person desiring to be heard on the above matter should appear at the time and place specified. Dated: December 6, 1988 BY ORDER OF THE SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD BENNETT ORLOWSKI,JR. CHAIRMAN PLEASE PRINT ONCE ON THURSDAY December 8th AND FORWARD ONE (1) AFFIDAVIT TO THIS OFFICE, THANK YOU. COPIES SENT TO: Long Island Travler/Watchman Suffolk Times . j . ~ Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southo1d, New York 11971 TELEPHONE (516) 765.J938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD December 7, 1988 John J. Hart Pelletreau & Pelletreau P.O. Box 110 Patchogue, NY 11772 RE: Marina Bay Club SCTM #1000-117-8-18 Dear Mr. Hart: The following actions were taken by the Southold Town Planning Board on Monday, December 5. 1988. RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board deem Supplement Number Two to the Draft Environmental Impact Statement complete. The public comment period will be from December 5. 1988 to January 4, 1989. RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board set Monday, December 19, 1988, at 7:30 p.m. for a public hearing on Supplement Number two to the Draft Environmental Impact Statement. If you have any questions, please do not hesistate to contact this office. 7?UIY YO~~s'/r;./(l ,;J/(p' ;.,.. ;~.~ \ ,//' / i .,.-', _'. ,~.,-~.~;...-_~. ..../ i/ I ~~ ~ _.' ." -, ',' ,'/ ,-',- .v'- "' ._..~, / " v~ '--"~-:"'~'~./~'Ol/ . --' /1' BENNETT ORLOWSKI,JR. ,y CHAIRMAN cc: Henry Raynor . . . TOWn Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 TELEPHONE (516) 765-1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD MEMORANDUM TO: All involved agencies FROM: The Planning Board Office RE: Supplement No. 2 to the Draft Environmental Impact Statement of Marina Bay Club. SCTM #1000-117-8-18 DATE: November 9, 1988 Enclosed please find a copy of Supplement No. 2 to the Draft Environmental Impact Statement of Marina Bay Club. This document has just been received for review by the Planning Board to determine whether it should be accepted as complete. The first DEIS was recieved on August 20, 1987 and was deemed incomplete. Supplement No. 1 was received on March 11, 1988 and was deemed incomplete. Comments as to the completeness of this document must be received by December 9, 1988, which is within thirty (30) days of the date of this memorandum. COPIES MAILED TO THE FOLLOWING: Suffolk County Department of Health Services Suffolk County Planning Commission NYS Department of Environmental Conservation Thomas C. Jorling, DEC Commissioner Judtih Terry, Town Clerk Building Department Board of Appeals Board of Trustees Planning Board David Emilita . . . . JAC PLANNING CORP. B Bond Street, Suite300 Great Neck, NY 11021 . 516-487-4549 November 4, 1988 -'fDJ 11 & 11 n \Y] 11 JnJ Wi Nav - 7,. @j Margaret Loper Saland Real Estate Main Road Jamesport, NY 11947 SOUTHOI.D few!".! J PLAI~,.:2[;::.'>0 ~..__ Re: Marina Bay Club Dear Ms. Loper: As per Henry Raynor's instructions, enclosed please find 13 copies of the revised Supplement No.2. A total of 12 copies should be submitted to the Town of Southold on Monday Nov. 7 along with the transmittal letter you should already have from Jack Hart's office. The remaining 1 copy is for Henry Raynor's files. Please call me if you have any questions. Very truly yours, JAC Celender JAC:bj cc: D. Carr J. Hart, Esq. S. Niego S. McLendon, P.E. D. Sioss, P.E. G. Loesch, P.E. .~ . . . . . PETER V. SNYDER .JOHN J. HART .JOHN,J. ROE, III FREDERIC L. ATWOOD .J. TIMOTHY SHEA BRUCE T. WALLACE KEVIN A. SEAMAN VANESSA M. SHEEHAN' BENJAMIN L. HERZWEIG PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW 20 CHURCH STREET - BOX 110 PATCHOGUE, NEW YORK 11772 TEL. 516 447-8900 F"AX 516 475-5651 ROBERT S. PELLETREAU '1..1-18.3> RICHARD A. SCHOENFELD , 1950-1..0> ROBERT H. PELLETREAU OF COUNSEL RUSSELL c. BURCHERI<) DOUGLAS J. LEROSE JAMES G. HYLAND 447-8906 ill ffi '~'fffi~_;rn .,,,.. '~-''''''''.'~. ... ", ';\~ 'ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA OALSO ADMITTED IN NEW JERSEY November 3. 1988 f\ Town of Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Attention: Bennett Orlowski. Jr. Chairman, Planning Board RE: Marina Bay Club Dear Chairman Orlowski: Enclosed please find the Final Supplement to the Draft Environmental Impact Statement for the Marina Bay Club. The statement is now complete. The Board of Health will not proceed until the SEQR Application has been accepted by the Planning Board. This acceptance, of course, is subject to Board of Health action, by its Board of Review. In order to expedite the review proceedings. we have forwarded a copy of this Final Supplement to David Emilita via overnight ma i 1. We respectfully request an early decision since the original DEIS was submitted on August 17, 1987. Thank you for your cooperation. truly yours. &PE~ .jlm cc: **See Attached Rider** lU(38) .-. . . . PELLETREAU 8< PELLETREAU Rider November 3, 1988 Hon. Francis J. Murphy Hon. Ellen Larsen Hon. Ruth Oliva Hon George L. Penny IV Hon. Raymond W. Edwards Hon. Jean W. Cochran James Schondebare, Esq, Town Attorney Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner Richard Ward. member of the planning Board Richard Latham, member of the Planning Board William Mullen, member of the Planning Board Kenneth Edwards, member of the Planning Board David Emilita Judith Terry, Town Clerk Richard Carr Jean Celender Henry Raynor Holzmacher, McLendon & Murrell Att: Sam McLendon Dravo Van Houten, Inc Att: Clem Cameron Niego Associates Att: Sol Niego Dunn Engineering, P.C. Att: Walter Dunn B. Laing Associates Att: Michael Bontje Saland Real Estate Att: David Saland Young & Young Att: Howard Young lU/11 . . . Ms. Valerie Scopaz Southold Town Planner Main Road Southold, NY 11971 Dear Miss Scopaz: . lX:1' 11 _ SOUTHOlD TOWN l'LANNING BOARD P. O. Drawer A Jamesport, NY 11947 October 14, 1988 To confirm your telephone conversation, I am adivising our team working on Marina Bay Club site plan that SEQRA applications must be completed to the Planning Board's satisfaction (DEIS) prior to applications being made by processing with other agencies in conjunction with this project. Thank you for your attention in this matter as it clarifies the exact course of action we should pursue with regard to coordinating our efforts. HR:ml Ene. CC: Richard Carr John J. Hart, Esq. J.A.C. Planning Corp. Holzmacher. Murrell & Sol Niego Sincerely, ~ ~~~r. Mcl.endon . . . t Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 TELEPHONE (516) 765.1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD OctGber 3, 1988 John J. Hart Pelletreau & Pel1etreau 20 Church Street Patchogue, NY 11772 RE: Proposed site plan for Marina Bay Club SCTM #1000-117-8-18 Dear Mr. Hart: This office has been asked by Mr. Schondebare, Town Attorney, to respond to your letter. The Planning Board has been informed by the Town Attorney's office that the claims of riparian rights and extensions beyond same as stated in the Daft Environmental Impact Statement appear to be correct. ~verY truly you/lrs, '~':l . , ~~, ./ i;;,;/ , , / C<I ~t :.-v v BENNETT ORLOWSKI,JR. CHAIRMAN cc: James A. Schondebare,Town Attorney Henry Raynor, agent , . . . , . . . . . JAMES A. SCHONDEBARE TOWN A TIORNEY ROBERT H. BERNTSSON ASSISTANT TOWN ATTORNEY Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 TELEPHONE (516) 765.1939 OFFICE OF THE TOWN ATTORNEY TOWN OF SOUTHOLD 't'o: FROM: DATE: REF: James A. SChondebare, Town Attorney Robert H. Berntsson, Assistant Town Attorney Sept. 13, 1988 Marina Bay Club In Dave Emilita's comments on the Marina Bay Club DEIS and Supplements 1 and 2, he states that "the Town Attorney should be consulted to verify the claims of riparian rights and extensions beyond same." I have reviewed comments No's. 36 through 42 of the supplement, and comrnents13 and 14 of Supplement No.2. I agree with the conclusions reached therein. The case law cited appears to be on point. I also note letters in Appendix B of the Supplement from then-Town Attorney Tasker and the Executive Department, Office of General Services, which reach the same conclusions found in the comments and responses of the DEIS and supplements. Basically, a riparian owner has a right of access to navigable water so long as his use is reasonable. It appears that John Hart would like a response from our office. Please advise if you wish anything further. I also attach relevant sections of some of the case law cited. ~;: -Z--/,V- ;~~ 1# ill ~:~:: ~OO SOUTHOLO 10WN PLANNING BOARO . . :::.,~iJ.o..;, _c,1!_ ~~ ,,,,':i:: ~-~~ ~~- ._-~ :.~ :~- :,,~~g /~ ,:l~~~ ~:<,,~"lIt~ ES TOWN OF ISLlP v. POWELL [78 Mise 2d l007J 1018 letal · . . ing and piling ;ers of Nassau .ude construe- l foreshore in is no rational een these two I in addition to, and not in lieu of " permits as may be required if by municipalities. This coexistence represents a sound policy i I which maintains local zoning control while preserving certain prerogatives to the State. The wisdom oil such a policy as it relates to tidal waters in Nassau and .suffolk Counties is for the Legislature and not for this court. The defendants make a further assertion that the construction and use of the docks in issue is a normal exercise of their riparian rights which the town may not restrict by its zoning ordinance. It is elementary that riparian owners havA thll-Xight..oLac"e~~ hI navi,?"RhlA water. iU~4i1!g the rIght to ~onst:c.uct.a..dock...(Crance . v. State of New York, 284 App. Div. 750, revd. on other grounds 309 N. Y. 680). These ri,g-hts have ,hellJLd.efined tQ.jJ!.clJ.l!ie: 1) use of water for ,g-eneraLpnrp.o.ses as...b.aihiu/LalllLdomestic..us.ll; 2) wharfing out to navigability; 3) access to I1avigabllUY-ater.B (Hilt v. Weber, 252 Mich. 198) ..and it iUheJatter-two-uses..whiclL.. are relevant to the issues at hand. If the wharf and the access 10 navlgabTe"water are commerCial in nature, then use of the residential upland as accessory to such uses would constitute II violation of residential restrictions (1 Rathkopf, Law of Zoning and Planning, p. 25-1 [Supp.]; cf. City of Yonkers v. Rentways, 280 App. Div. 821, affd. 304 N. Y. 499). Riparian rights are an extension of the rights of abutting upland ownership and they are subject to the same limitations. The defendants' use of com- mercial docks strung out in front of residentially zoned property is not an extension of the riparian rights of their residential ownership and it achieves no exemption from residential zoning restrictions. As a separate defense the defendants assert that the instant issues have already been determined in criminal proceedings instituted by the town and are therefore res judicata. It is true that such proceedings were decided in defendants' favor on the ground that the zoning power was pre-empted by the State. Nev- ertheless, the defense of res judicata is without merit. Neither a conviction (Dalton v. V 1l1~ Dien, 72 Mise 2d 287) nor an acquittal (Reilly Constr. Corp. v. City of New York, 70 Misc 2d 651, affd. 25 A D 2d 953) of a criminal charge is a bar to a civil action by the government, arising out of the same facts on which the crim- inal action was 'based. The town is empow~.ed by section 135 of the Town Law to enforce its ordinances by both a criminal action and an action for an injunction (lncorpora.ted Vil. of Westbury v. Saorltuels, 46l\Iisc 2d 633). .. . The town has demonstrated a clear legal right to IUJunctIve relief and is entitled to a preliminary injunction (Town of South- Law and the eed they both regula te that ~teria (People ofF arrell v. 32). The rule ;hould be read l' force where of the Legis- 'rp., 267 N. Y. was amended , wharves and State to the lssion of the 1965, ch. 955, ) adoption of nly. Had the Jxemption for e of the term ction 429-c of te latter term tended it. To so long main- be to thwart ,f Nassau and m the State's " in the two . are not now. lirectly to the , Department ltion because Law excludes >rc. c regulatory (90) but that ion" shall be -. ........> , I- I t.. F - --."r~""'''.''''':\:'!,..''",,'. "",. ~~' ES TN. OF HEMPSTEAD v. OCEANSIDE HARBOR [38 A D 2d 263] 263 ~oing, as set 'an presents his and the there is not this trustee in the light rust instru- . trustee. ,ting to tax has experi- its original , according tIle Watite more valu- the obser- ers' motion for summary judgment, dismissing the objections filed by the guardian ad litem, to dismiss said objections, and, as so modified, the order is affirmed, without costs and without disbursements, and the cross appeal dismissed. A f/~' :Jp..,vY"''/ 8s'1 TOWN OF HEMPSTEAD et al., Respondents, v. OCEANSIDE YACHT HARBOR, INC., Appellant. Second Department, February 14, 1972. Navigable waters - marina - owner of upland fronting on na.vigable chan. nel may drive piles into underwater land owned by town and may lay thereon .tloating ramps and docks and mooring slips and may rent such mooring slips to its many boating customers; tOwn'8 action for reasonable value of sllch alleged use and OCCupation of town's underwater land is dismissed. The Town of Hempstead owns, by colonial grants, the land under the water of East Rockaway Channel adjacent to and bordering on the upland which is owned by defendant, 8 marina corporation. From a bulkhead on defendant's upland, ramps which rise and fall with the tide are attached to nine floating docks which extend up to 100 feet into East Rockaway Channel. The docks arE' secured hy piles which are driven into the land under water. The United States Department of the Army has issued a permit for the construction of such docks. .:'lfoaring- slips extend from the docks and are rented by defendant to its customers. The floating docks thus accommodate about 150 boats, and defendant also pro- \'idcs gasoline and repair service and storage for the boats during the winter. Apparently these docks do not obstruct public navigation. The town did not introduce any expert testimony to show that this upland owner's commercial use of its right of access to and on these navigable waters amounts to an unrea- sonable exercise of dominion over the town's underwater land. The town's action for the reasonable rental value of defendant's alleged use and occupation of the town's lands under water is dismissed, and said defendant is granted judgment 011 its counterclaim declaring that it has the right to maintain its docks and piles. Toum of Hempstead v. Oceanside Small Oraft .Jlarina, 64 Misc 2d 4, reversed. ApPEAL by defendant from a resettled interlocutory judgment of the Supreme Court at Special Term (BERTRAM HARNETT, J.), rlated April 14, 1971 and entered in Nassau County on April 15, 1971, after a nonjury trial of the issue of liability only, which adjudged that defendant is liable for the fair rental value of a certain area of foreshore and which directed an assessment of rlamages; except that, as limited by appellant's brief, the pro- vision amending the title of the action is excluded from the appeal. Lapp, Schacher & Bradie (Charles E. Lapp, Jr., of counsel), for appellant. George C. Pratt, special counsel to Howard E. Levitt, Town ".J ttorney, for respondents. ion of fact llary judg- 'or further all of the 'e find the m and the cial Term 'ment, the cally; but grant the the objec- the cross t. How- is of no r erker, 8 he facts 'nterpre_ lere has ; simply Jngivcn . motion 1rVERN, icptem_ etition_ :-: .' . 264 38 APPELLATE DIVISION REPORTS, 2d SERIES TN. OF HEMPSTEAD v. OCEANSIDE HARBOR [38 AD 2d 263] 265 of the public (Saunders v. N ew York Cent. << Hudson Riv. R. R. Co., 144 N. Y. 75, 87; Rumsey". New York << New England R. R. 00., 133 N. Y. 79) or more"than one pier or dock (Barnes v. Midland R. R. Terrn. Co., 218 N. Y. 91, 97-98). Moreover the right of access may be shared with othcrs intent on cross: ing the land under water for purposes unrelated to the use of the upland (City of New York v. Third Ave. Ry. Co., 294 N. Y. 238, 244). But the right of access cannot be expanded beyond the purpose denoted by the term" access" - for exam pic, the exercise of the right does not extend to purposcs extrinsic to commerce and navigation, such as the operation of a restaurant (Matter of City of New York [Neptune << E""}lOnS Avcs.]. . N. Y. 604), amusement parks (Pcople v. Stcep/ullase Park ~ 218 N. Y. 459) or a plant for processing meat (City of Nel~ York v. Wilson<< Co., 278 N. Y. 86). Nor may thc right be used so that public navigation is impeded (TowlI of Brookhaven v. Smith, 188 N. Y. 74, 87, supra). , We must therefore look to the character and size of tli defendant ',s activities on the land under water to determine whether under the circumstances they represent a reasonable exercise of its right of access. The evidence as to those aclivi- ties is substantially undisputed. Thus, it was stipulated that the defendant" operates a marina on its upland, and in con- nection with that has nine floating docks which extend into East Rockaway Channel up to 100 feet, and that these docks arc held in place or secured into place by piles which arc driven into the land under water" and that" in October 1961 the Department of the Army issued a permit for the construction of 17 fl. . . . to extend up to 100 feet into the waters of East RoP away Channel." The marina prO\'ides repair sClTice and gaso- line, as well as storage for boats during the ,,-inter. The floating docks accommodate about 1,,0 boats at mooring rental. The Special Term found that the ,locks did not interfere w' public navigation; and, indee<l in 1!l()O, the plaintitf, hy re, - lution had authorized the in>'tallation of I() .loek, hv tlw defen- dant, declaring that the structures woulll not u;lI'pasonahly obstruct the plaintiffs' waterways.' Thus the plaintiffs have HOPKINS, Acting P. J. By colonial grants the plaintiffs are the owners of the land under water adjacent to the upland oWned by the defendant, bordering East Rockaway Channel. On the upland is a bulkhead from which ramps, rising and falling with the tide, are attached to floating docks. Mooring slips, also known as fingers, extend from the floating docks and are rented to the defendant's customers. The plaintiffs sue to recover the reasonable rental value of the use and occupation of their land under water by the defen- dant in the operation of its business as a marina. The plain- tiffs' theory is that the defendant, through the construction of the mooring slips, has ventured beyond the traditional riparian rights of an upland owner to such a degree as to trespass on the rights of the plaintiffs. The defendant in response claims that the riparian rights include the installation of docks, floats and mooring slips above the plaintiffs' land under water, for which use the defendant need not pay any compensation. The Special Term, trying the' case on the issue of liability alone, found in favor of the plaintiffs and directed an assess- ment of damages. The opinion of Special Term held (64 Mise 2d 4, 9) that" the town may not charge for rents for its under- water lands in the instance of docks and floats which are pri- marily for access from navigable waters to upland property, but the town may charge the upland owner for use of the town's underwater lands for docks and floats and other installations maintained there as distinct activities in their own right. " We are unable to agree with the conclusion of the Special Term; a~d .we reverse the resettled interlocutory judgment, direct ?'Sm'SSal of the amended and supplcmental complaint, and grant .Judgment to the defendant upon its counterclaim. The defendant, as an upland owner, has a right of access to and from the channel over the plaintiffs' foreshore (Town of Brookhaven v. Smitl" 188 N. Y. 74) and that right follows the entire frontage of the defendant's property (Tiffany v. TowlI of Oyster Bay, 234 N. Y. 15). The right of access comprehends the reasonable, safe and convenient use of the foreshore for navigation, fishing and such other purposes as commonly belong to the riparian owner, exercised in a reasonable manner (Tif- fany v. TOWI~ of Oyster Bay, supra, p. 21). The scope of what is n reasonable, safe and convenient use of the upland owner's riparian rights has been gradually defined on a ease-to-case foundation. Thus, it is clear that the right includes the power to build a pier, dock or wharf for the upland owner's use or for the use ~-_.~----_._----...............-- 1. The permit i,;suf'il l1nd('r the r('~nlntinn l"i'C'ifrd that it W;1;;; !:r:llltrll II upon the condition tlmt the npplie:lnts (>n(C'f into n 1(,:1~{, with till' Town of Jlf'llIr~t('ad for those land,; I:dn)r ulH]('rJll'ath and :lllj:\('('nt to tll(' nforl'..;:J.ill ~lrll('tur(':'i." Tho lease was nenr ('x{'('utrd. HOW(,Yf'f, the plaintilT~ in thrir hl'i<,f di"rlllim any reliance on th{' ne('('pt:tn('(> of the }Wfmit hy HII' I1rf('llf1:l11t :IS 11 j::rounll for holding it to the pnyrnf'ut of nut, U h('('nu~(' nIl p:lflif':'i t}f'"irf' to IHl\'e the hnsic principle nrljndie:\trd." .' '-. 266 38 APPELLATE DIVISION REPORTS, 2d SERIES BD. OF COOP. EDUC. SERVo v. GOLDIN [38 A D 2d 267] 267 acknowledged that the defendant's use of the foreshore by the floating docks is not a menace to public navigation. The question is consequently narrowed to whether the extent of the defendant's use of its riparian rights and the rental of the mooring slips attached to the piles to members of the public owning boats constitute an unreasonable exercise of dominion over the plaintiffs' underwater land. As has been frequently said, the term" reasonable" is relative, taking on color and significance from the circumstances (cf. United Paper Bd. Co. v. Iroquois Pulp dI; Paper Co., 226 N. Y. 38, 45). In this case, the plaintiffs introduced no evidence in the form of expert tes- timony that the defendant's use was unreasonable. Essentially, the plaintiffs contend that the defendant's use is unreasonable because it maintains a commercial operation, in which the riparian right is sold to others. By itself, the erection of more than one dock is not unreason- able, if they are necessary. to the upland owner's enjoyment of his riparian right of access (cf. Barnes v. Midland R. R. Term. Co., 218 N. Y. 91,97-98, supra). Nor do we find authority for restricting the right of access to the personal use of the upland owner; the rule is otherwise, for the owner may lease his prop- erty and docks to third parties (City of New York v. Third Ave. Ry. Co., 294 N. Y. 238, 244-245; Bedlow v. New York Floating Dry Dock Co., 112 N. Y. 263, 279-281; cf. Moyer v. State of New York, 56 Mise 2d 549; Huguenot Yacht Club v. Lion, 43 Mise 2d 141). We cannot say on this record that the defendant overstepped the bounds of reasonableness by renting the mooring slips to individual owners of boats, even though the number of boats is considerable. The policy of the State, since an early time in the history of our State, has been directed toward encouraging the private development of waterfronts, subject only to the condition that the use be reasonable and not obstructive of navi- gation (Town of Brookhaven v. Smith, 188 N. Y. 74, 79-80, 97, supra). If it different policy is to be formulated at this time, favoring the right of the foreshore owner to be compensated when the riparian owner uses the right of access by operating a marina accommodating the mooring of a substantial number of small private boats, the change ought to be accomplished by the Court of Appeals which established the policy. It follows that the resettled interlocutory judgment should be reversed, insofar as appealed from, on the law and the facts, witli costs, the amended and supplemental complaint dismissed, and the defendant granted judgment on its counterclaim, declar- ing that the defendant has the right to maintain the docks an.d piles in question. SHAPIRO and -GULOTTA, JJ., concur with HOPKINS, Acting P. J.; CHRIST and BENJAMIN, JJ., dissent and vote to affirm, on the opinion of the Special Term. Resettled interlocutory judgment reversed insofar as appealed from, on the law and the facts, ,,'ith costs; amended and supplemental complaint dismissed; and defendant granted judgment on its counterclaim, declaring that defendant has the right to maintain the docks and piles in question. . BOARD OF COOPERATIVE EDUCATIOXAL SERVICES, SOLE SUPERVISORY DISTRICT, NASSAU COUNTY, Respondent, v. DAVID LOIN et aI., Individually and as Representatiws of a Class e Members of which are kno yn as " Baldwin Citizens Actio Committ. Appellants, et aI., efendants. Second epartment1 February 14, 19 . Declaratory judgments- en threatened Iitigatio would cause irreparable injury - special statutes, em wering town to lea e unneeded park land to Board of Cooperative Educatio al Services (BO S), and empowering said BOCES to lease building to be onstructed on said land, supersede general statutes empowering BOCES to re bUildings or only five years and requir- ing voters' approval and public bidd g - th s, town properly leased 16 acres of unneeded park land to BOCES; and tte, pursuant to court order, properly engaged not-for-profit corporation to h general contractor; and said con- tractor agreed to construct such buildin or said corporation and then to sell building to said corporation for $6,182 0 so-called citizens action com~ has hired attorneys to prevent const ction 0 building; in this situation, ~ will not lend money and contracto can cancel ontract and town can terminate its lease and thus BOCES woul be irreparabl injured; accordingly, BOCES was properly granted judgm t declaring lease and agreements valid _ on defendants' motion to dismi such complaint for eclaratory jUdgment, plain- tiff's cross motion for p tiaI summary judgmen was properly grant. BOCES is real party in i erest- declaratory judgm t will settle real, pre controversy and discou age litigation. 1. The Board of C nprntti\T{' EtluC'ntinllnl Rpr\'il'C's of -nssllu Counts (hl'f('in call1'd ROCES) OJl{'1' ('5 n s('hool fot' l'lllotionally clistul'hf'( ('hildt'rll. The s('hool is inndC'fJlIntely h sed in n warehousf'. Thr Lf'g'isl:lturf'. up n home rule rf'qllf'st, nuthorizi'tl thr wn of lIelllpstentl in :-aid (,oullty to leW'w 1.IntH'f'dN} park land to nocEs, with or without comdderation (1... ]970, ch. 7f1B); and af'cording-Ty in 1970 the tow properly lea!';ed ahout. 16 :\('l'e~ of Inud ill HallIwill Harbor TOlnl Pnrk to no .s for fin' Y(':ll'S with options in BOrES to rellCw th(' If'nse tlm:>e times. 2. In 1 (1 th(' Lrgislntul't:> (by IJ. 1971, ch. 118:1) elllpower('d BOCES Uta lease for a period not to exc('cd t(,1I y('aTS a building- to be constructed at Baldwin Harhor town park, town of Hf'llIp!';fpad for th(' pUl'pos(' of prodding education~1 services for cmotionnll~' distnl'h('d {'hildrell." Th(,l'cupnn. ill a sp{'cinl proceed. . . . . PETERV, SNYDER JOHN J. HART JOHN J. ROE:. III FREDERIC L. ATWOOD j. TIMOTHY SHEA BRUCE T. WALLACE KEVIN A. SEAMAN VANESSA M. SHEEHAN- BENJAMIN L HERZWEIG PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW 20 CHURCH STREET - BOX 110 PATCHOGUE, NEW YORK 11772 ROSERT S, PELlETREAU (1891-1943) RICHARD A. SCHOENFELD (1950-1980) TEL. 516447-8900 FAX 516 475- 5651 ROBERT H. PELLETREAU OF COUNSEL RUSSELL C. BURCHERI 0 DOUGLAS J. lEROSE DENNIS Q. O'DOHERTY. ..1Ft 447-8906 ~. .- ~ t \! t: tl r' ~_s ~ ' . k~ s,\-"? - 1 14_ _\- ,\ I Sr."I.. - ,,~~( If'OV . "\ Q\'~'~. -ALSO ADMITTED IN FlORIDA OALSOADMITTEO IN NEW JERSEY August 31, 1988 Town of Southold Town Ha 11 53095 Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Attention: James Schondebare, Esq. RE: MARINA BAY CLUB NEW SUFFOLK, NEW YORK Dear Jay: On July 22, 1988 we forwarded to your office copies of Supplements 1 and 2 of the DEIS on the Marina Bay Club. In the cover letter which accompanied the Supplements, we asked that you address David Emilita's request that you reply to Response No. 13 of Supplement No. 2 regarding the rights of the Riparian owner. (I enclose a copy of Emilita's June 24, 1988 memorandum to the Southold Planning Board in which this request is found.) Our client is presently trying to complete the FEIS and we would appreciate your cooperation. Thank you for your courtesies. Very truly yours, ~~~l'::. · PELLETE". Vn J. Hart JFH: j le EnClosures lU/60 .,ISL]~ SZEPATOWSKI ASSOCIATES INC. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS & PLANNERS . , . . RECEIVED BY SOUTHOlD TOWil FLIllNlNG BOARD JUN 27 1988/" SAJI DATE y~ ~-.2.7- l MEMORANDUM TO: Southold Pl~~ng Board David J.S.~, Szeaptowski Associates, Inc. FROM: RE: Marina Bay Club DEIS and Supplements 1 and 2 DATE: June 24, 1988 We have reciewed the documents cited above and make the following recommendations to you: 1. The three documents taken together constitute a significant amount of new information since the last public hearing of 9 Nov 87 on the DEIS alone. 2. Many questions remain unanswered to date. However they can be addressed during a new pUblic comment period. Our questions are detailed below and are keyed to Supplement No. 2. Response No.7 First Street drainage is shown to be via catch basins at the low spots. It appears however that when the catch basins are fUll, runoff is intended to find its way to the 15" RCP drain through tide gates to the docking areas. However at the southerly end of First Street, road grade elevations appear to continue to drop. What frequency storm will be captured by the catch basin system without overflowlng to the Bay? Will the road simply drain south and never enter the southerly drain? Have the Highway Superintendent, Trustees and other Town agencies approved of this concept? Who will be responsible for maintaining this overflow system and the tide gates? 23 Narragansett Ave. Jamestown, RI. U2335 (401) 423-0430 ~; . . , . . Response No.8 We repeat that no acknowledgement of Mr. Jacobs review appears in the Supplement. Response No.9 The Planning Board will be the final arbiter of parking area pavement specifications. The NYSDEC has no override over local zoning requirements. Drainage calculations should thus be based on an asphalt surface. Drainage calculations should be produced to verify the conclusions reached. A 2" rainfall may be a minimum requirement, however the Planning Board would need assurance that greater than a minimum drainage requirement could be met. Response No. HI Until the recommendations of the Health Department with respect to the water supply and sewage treatment systems have been received, the DEIS cannot mature to an FEIS. See the SCDHS letter of 19 November 1987. Response No. 12 The Consumer Information Sheets in connection with inorganic arsenic and creosote treated wood on pages B 14-17 of the Supplement to the DEIS state that, "(treated) wood should not be used where it may come into direct or indirect contact with public drinking water except for uses involving incidental contact such as docks or bridges." The well screen intake for the water treatment system is shown to be quite close, within a few feet, of proposed dockage. It is not clear whether this is "incidental contactn in the context of the information sheet. Input from the County Health Department is necessary. . SZEPATOWSKI ASSOCIATES INC. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS & 'PlANNERS SAI J"', \ . . . . 1 Response No. 13 and No. 14 The Town Attorney should be consulted to verify the claims of riparian rights and extensions beyond same.~Referral to and ~ comment from the New York State Department of State's Coastal Management Program is not reported in the DEIS and will need to be addressed before th~ FEIS can be completed. Response No. 16 The disposal site for the excess material is still not discussed conclusively. This must be addressed so that the Planning Board can assess the impact on the disposal site and properties adjacent to it. 3. In the interest of timeliness as expressed in Section ~17.3~ of the SEQR Regulations, particularly with respect to review by other involved agencies, we recommend that the Board accept the DEIS together with Supplements 1 and 2 as satisfactory with respect to scope, content and adequacy and commence a new public comment period. Said pUblic comment period-should include a pUblic hearing. We recommend that it not be held until after all involved agency reports have been submitted to the Planning Board. Following said public comment period, it may then be possible to move to an FEIS. fU--M~ ~~~ I ~~~ P :yq; r ZEP^TOWSIqI ^SSOCI^TES INC. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS' PLANNERS yqJ : .. .' ~ . . . . TO: FROM: DATE: REF: James A. Schondebare, Town Attorney Robert H. Berntsson, Assistant Town Attorney September 7, 1988: Letter of Terry Waters Property Owners Association With regard to the above-referenced letter, you have inquired as to what are the rights to underground water. The law in New York appears to allow a landowner the reasonable use of the water under the land. It appears that water under land is divided into two classes, distinct underground streams and water which merely seeps or percolates through the land beneath the surface. See Real Property Service, New York, Section 4:5 (1987); New York Jurisprudence, Waters S239 (1978). Distinct underground streams are governed by the same theory of law which applies to surface water courses. I assume that in the case of Angel Shores we are dealing with seeping or perCOlating waters as opposed to an underground stream. "The right to underground waters percolating through his or her own and a neighbors land, which are a common source of supply for both lands, belongs to both landowners. Each landowner is limited to a reasonable and beneficial use of the water." Real Property Service, Supra. Finally, it should be noted, "it is well established that the owner of land has a right to the enjoyment of the land and to the underground waters upon it, and he may, in order to obtain that water, sink a well." N.Y.Jur, Supra, Section 240. Based on the foregoing, it appears that it would be a question of whether the Angel Shores developrnc~t were making a "reasonable" use on the subsurface water. .~ .. . f Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P,O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 TELEPHONE (516) 765-1938 ~.-\:. . . ...-;" " PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD September 15, 1988 Henry Raynor 320 Love Lane Mattituck, NY 11952 ", RE: Marina Bay Club SCTM #1000-117-8-18 Dear Mr. Raynor: The fOllowing action was taken by the Southold Town Planning Board on Monday, September 12, 1988. RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board accept and request compliance with the Suffolk County Department of Health Services, dated September 8, 1988. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact this office. ':. /l::Y?t::l7?/~~ It! ,/," zj~_lqV>tVYI/ ~'.{;1u",,----ti- .~~ f/,' BENNETT ORLOWSKI,JR. CHAIRMAN enc. jt .,.. - . . C 'NTY OF SUFFOLK . SEP-9_ PATRICK G. HAL.PIN SUFFOLK COUNTY EXECUTIVE SOUTHOlD TOWN PlANNING BOARD DEPARTMENT OF HEAL.TH SERVICES DAVID HARRIS. M.D.. M.P.H. COMMISSIONER September 8, 1988 Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner Southold Town Planning Department Southold Town Hall 53075 Main Road Southold, NY 11971 RE: Marina Bay Club, Draft Environmental Impact Statement Vater and Vastewater Supplementary Report (Prepared by H2M, dated 6/88, revised 8/4/88) Dear Ms. Scopaz: The Suffolk County Department of Health Services (SCDHS), Bureau of Drinking Vater, recently completed its review of the the above-mentioned supplement to the Draft Environmental Impact Statement (DEIS). Related portions of the Bureau's review report are provided below for your information. 1. Vater Supply Alternatives "Regarding the water supply alternatives, the Bureau of Drinking Vater regards a central upland source and distribution facility to be the most desirable, for essentially the same reasons cited by the engineer (page 16 of the report). It is our position that, throughout this period of administrative review, the applicant should continue to pursue this alternative with the Town, and the Suffolk County Vater Authority. "However, as a concept, the alternative of an on-site brackish water source with reverse-osmosis (r/o) treatment, as proposed, is consistent with the design requirements of the New York State Dept. of Health applicable to a non-community water supply." 2. Application Requirements "The water supply proposal would appear to necessitate the following filings: a - A Long Island VeIl Permit and possibly a SPDES permit for the 100 gpm well and rlo reject water disposal respectively. COUNTY CENTER RIVERHEAD. N.Y. 11901 ill 'W"". - Letter to Valerie Sept. 8, 1988 Page 2 scol . . . b - Plans and specifications for the water supply and sewage treatment disposal systems with the Bureau of Drinking Vater and Bureau of Vastewater Management, respectively. "Concerning the site plan and flow schematics the well location, under our standards, must clearance from cesspools, and 50' clearance structures." presented, we note that provide a minimum 150' from runoff drainage "Regarding the water treatment system schematic we recommend provision for an additional point for chlorination just upstream of the hydropneumatic tank should this operational option prove to be more desirable at a later date." Ve appreciate the opportunity to provide you with information pertaining to the review of the proposed action. Should you have any questions or require additional information concerning the review of this supplementary report, please contact the Bureau of Drinking Vater at 348- 2900, or the Office of Ecology at 548-3060. Sincerely, ;W~LQ~ Robert S. DeLuca Biologist Louise V. Harrison Supervisor, Bureau of Environmental Management Office of Ecology RSD/amf cc: Vito Minei, P.E. Steve Costa, P.E. Paul Ponturo, P.E. ~~. Ii..a . . . . ~ " mO\YJm nA)f,tOIIDI. JACOBS Supminl~ndenl AUG - i; 1988 SOUTHOlD TOWN PlANNING BOARD Aur,ust 8, 1988 Hr. Sam McLendon Holzmacher, McLendon and Murrell, Inc~ 575 Broadhollow Road Melville, New York 11747-5076 Re: Marina Bay Club RCMB 87-01 Dear Mr. McLendon: I have reviewed the above mentioned project and find the alternate system to be satisfactory for the relief of major storm tides as occurred with storm Nelson on March 29th, 1984. The elevations of the drainage inlets are posit- ioned three inches above road grade to eleviate precipitation but will not cause road runoff into the bay with normal rainfall. , !tpectfullY, / . le-c,DV , celft1t.n".{l .t/-- ~YR1ond L. Jacobs Superintendent of Highways ~.~c: Bennett Orlowski, Jr. '~/~~?o"'- /Co ~~~ ~ ;:;;~~~~~r'~~~' P_/O~ ~~ 00 reI. lOS 31.ll} .7~H .~~ 11 '- .- ., 'GROuP . . a._ . ....... . ~ Ilolz.nacher. I\fcI.endon and Murrell, P.C. . lIob:nlacher. McI.endol1 and Murrell, Inc. . 1121\1 tahs, Inc. Enginecrs, Architects, Planners, Scientists '::;-0) Bro;ld I folluw I{oad, Melville, N.Y. 1 I 747-'107() ( 'd (>) "i()-HOOO . ( 20 I ) 'i7'j-'i400 FAX: :; 1 h-()t) I-.j 122 VIA FEDERAL EXPRESS April 28, 1988 Mr. Ra}~ond Jacobs Highway Superintendent Town of Southold Peconic Lane Peconic, NY 11958 RE: Marina Bay Club RCMB 87-01 Dear Mr. Jacobs: You may recall that on Wednesday, February 3, 1988. the undersigned met with you to review a proposed storm drainage system for the above-referenced project. More specifically, we had proposed constructing a storm drainage overflow system to serve First Street. The purpose of the system is to func- tion when First Street becomes heavily flooded (i.e. due to a Northeaster) and to facilitate the return of the flood water to the bay. The system originally proposed by H2M would have provided two leaching pool systems on First Street, which would be piped into the bay through the Marina Bay Club site. You had indicated that there has been a lot of pressure to eliminate direct discharges to the bay and that the system, as proposed at that time, was not likely to be acceptable. We then discussed an alternate system which would still provide two shallow leaching pool systems on First Street. However, the invert of the overflow pipe would be set at an elevation of three inches above the street grade. This then would only permit the overflow system to operate during a heavy flooding event and when there was more than three inches of flood waters on First Street. We are enclosing a set of plans which illustrate the revised proposal, which we had dis- cussed on February 3, 1988. At this time, we would like to request a written acknowl- edgment of our meeting and discussions concerning the drainage system. In addition, if you generally agree with the system as revised, we would appreciate a statement to that effect. \Ichille. :'\.Y. . Rin:rheIJ, N'\' . Fairfield, NJ. '. , . . . . GROUP . If you have any questions regarding the enclosed plan, we would be pleased to discuss this matter either by phone or in person, if you would contact the undersigned at 756-8000, extension 300. Thank you for your assistance in this matter. Very truly yours, Hf2'" . Donald A / . ioss, P.C. , P.E. DAS/j lh Enc. cc: Richard Carr Jean Celender .. - rW,UOll{)L JACOBS SUf)prinl~Jldenl . . HighwilY Deparlrnen Town of Southold Paconic Lane Peconic, N.Y. 1 to58 Aup,ust 8, 1988 Hr. Sam McLendon Holzmacher, McLendon and Murrell, Inc. 575 Broadhollow Road Melville, New York 11747-5076 Re: Marina Bay Club RCMB 87-01 Dear Mr. McLendon: . . Tol. ll;'; 3 ',1(.1 '7~H:l?11 I have reviewed t.he above ment ioned project and find the alternate system to be satisfactory for the relief of major storm tides as occurred with storm Nelson on March 29th, 1984. The elevations of the drainage inlets are posit- ioned three inches above road grade to eleviate precipitation but will not cause road runoff into the bay with normal rainfall. ~pectfUllY, .-b fcPpu1<<.f if e.. >;V Jd;ymond L. Jacobs Superintendent of Highways , ~/~c: Bennett Orlowski, Jr. < . . ".GRO!JP ~ . . lIolzmacher, McI.endon and Murrell, P.C. . lIolzmacher, Mclendon and Murrell, Inc. . 112M tahs, Inc. Engineers, Architects, Planners, Scientists ,-, IIm"d Iloilo,," I{o"d, Melville, N.Y. 11747.';07(, IS 1 (,) ";l,.HOOO . (20 I) ';7';.,;.100 FA\: ') I ().()t) i ..j 122 VIA FEDERAL EXPRESS April 28, 1988 Mr. Raymond Jacobs Highway Superintendent Town of Southo1d Peconic Lane Peconic, NY 11958 RE: Marina Bay Club RCMB 87-01 Dear Mr. Jacobs: You may recall that on Wednesday, February 3, 1988, the undersigned met with you to review a proposed storm drainage system for the above-referenced project. More specifically, we had proposed constructing a storm drainage overflow system to serve First Street. The purpose of the system is to func- tion when First Street becomes heavily flooded (i.e. due to a Northeaster) and to facilitate the return of the flood water to the bay. The system originally proposed by H2M would have provided two leaching pool systems on First Street, which would be piped into the bay through the Marina Bay Club site. You had indicated that there has been a lot of pressure to eliminate direct discharges to the bay and that the system, as proposed at that time, was not likely to be acceptable. We then discussed an a1 ternate system which would still provide two shallow leaching pool systems on First Street. However, the invert of the overflow pipe would be set at an elevation of three inches above the street grade. This then would only permit the overflow system to operate during a heavy flooding event and when there was more than three inches of flood waters on First Street. We are enclosing a set of plans which illustrate the revised proposal, which we had dis- cussed on February 3, 1988. At this time, we would like to request a written acknowl- edgment of our meeting and discussions concerning the drainage system. In addition, if you generally agree with the system as revised, we would appreciate a statement to that effect. \It:l\"ilk. ~,Y . Rin.:'rhead, N.Y. . Fairfield. NJ . c;ROUP . .. . . If you have any questions regarding the enclosed plan, we would be pleased to discuss this matter either by phone or in person, if you would contact the undersigned at 756-8000, extension 300. Thank you for your assistance in this matter. Very truly yours, "22'" . Donald A.". ioss, MURRELL, P.C. , P.E. DAS/jlh Ene. cc: Richard Carr Jean Celender . ~ . . Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 TELEPHONE (516) 765-1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD August 2, 1988 John J. Hart, Esq. pelletreau and pelletreau 20 Church Street - Box 110 Patchogue, New York 11772 Re: Proposed site plan of Marina Bay Club New Suffolk, New York SCTM# 1000-117-8-18 Dear Mr. Hart: Your letter of July 28th was received this afternoon. If, indeed, the specific correspondence referenced in your letter was not sent either to your office or that of one of the several members of the development team, I regret the inadvertant oversight. Please be aware that the files are available for your review at any time. In closing, since you also have questions about the status of other, unnamed, applications before the Planning Board, I urge you to set an appointment at your earliest convenience to review the files personally. I will be happy to answer any further questions~ou may have at that time. " Sincerely, ~~ Valerie scopaz~ Town Planner cc: c. Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Chairman -~'Members of the Planning Board Francis J. Murphy, Supervisor Members of the Town Board ........ . ~ . . PETERV. SNVDER JOHN J. HART JOHNJ. ROE, III FREDERIC L. ATWOOD ,J. TIMOTMY SHEA BRUCE T. WALLACE KEVIN A SEAMAN VANESSA M. SHEEHAN" BENJAMIN L. HERZWEIG PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW 20 CHURCH STREET - BOX 110 PATCHOGUE, NEW YORK 11772 TEL. 516447-8900 FAX 516 475- 5651 ROBERT S. PELL.[TRtAU (1881~1843l RICHARD A SCHOENF[LD (18$O-IHO) ROBERT H. P[L.LETREAU OF COUNSEL 447-8906 RUSSELL. C. BURCHERtO DOUGLAS J. LEROSE DENNIS D. O'DOHERTY, JR "ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA OALSO ADMITTED IN NEW JERSEY August 1, 1988 SAI 23 Narragansett Avenue Jamestown, Rhode ISland 07.835 Attention: David Emilita RE: Marina Bay Club New suffolk, New York Dear Mr. Emilita: Your letter dated July 28. 1988 is received and acknowledged. We apologize for our inadvertent mistake (referring to Carr/Wanat Change of Zone instead of the Marina Bay Club). however, our comments remain the same. Please accept our apology for any inconvenience this may have caused. Very truly yours, ~I.' ~TRE~ PELLETREAU. :t~ t(.~ J h J. ar JFH:jle cc: see attached Rider . '. . . . PELLETREAU 8< PELLETREAU Rider Hon. Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Hon. Francis J. Murphy Hon. Jean W. Cochran Hon. Raymond W. Edwards Hon. Ruth Oliva Hon. Ellen Larsen Hon. George L. Penny IV James 5chondebare, Esq. Valerie 5copaz Judith Terry Richard Carr Jean Celender Henry Raynor Holzmacher, McLendon & Murrell Attn: Gary Loesch Dravo Van Houten, Inc. Attn: Clem Cameron Niego Associates Attn: Sol Niego Dunn Engineering Attn: Walter Dunn B. Laing Associates Attn: Michael Bontje lU/52-53 . - ,.. , . . . . PETER V. SNYDER JOHN J. HART JOHN J. ROE. III F'"REOERIC L ATWOOD J TIMOTHY SHeA BRuCE T. WALLACE KEVIN A. SEAMAN VANESSA M. SHEEHAN" SE:NJA.MIN l. HERZWEIG PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW 20 CHURCH STREET. BOX 110 PATCHOGUE, NEW YORK 11772 TEL. 516447-8900 FAX 516 475- 5651 ROSERT S PELLETREAU (18&1-$43) RICHARD A SCHOENFELD ($50-Ie&O) ROBERT H. P[LL[TR["U OF COUNSEL 447-8906 RUSSELL C. BURCHERIO DOUGLAS J. LEROSE: DENNIS D. O'DOHERTY, JR. m ~@~DW~ ....LSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA OALSO ADMITTED IN NEW JERSEY August 1. 1988 SAI 23 Narragansett Avenue Jamestown. Rhode Island 02835 Attention: David Emilita RE: Marina Bay Club New Suffolk. New York Dear Mr. Emilita: Your letter dated July 28. 1988 is received and acknowledged. We apologize for our inadvertent mistake (referring to Carr/Wanat Change of Zone instead of the Marina Bay Club). however. our comments remain the same. Please accept our apology for any inconvenience this may have caused. Very truly yours. ~E~ TRE~ P.E LLETREAU. . Iz t(,~ J h J. ar '- JFH:jle cc: see attached Rider 4 ., .. . r, . . PELLETREAU 8< PELLETREAU Rider Hon. Bennett Orlowski. Jr. Hon. Francis J. Murphy Hon. Jean W. Cochran Hon. Raymond W. Edwards Hon. Ruth Oliva Hon. Ellen Larsen Hon. George L. Penny IV James Schondebare. Esq. Valerie Scopaz Judith Terry Richard Carr Jean Celender Henry Raynor Holzmacher. McLendon & Murrell Attn: Gary Loesch Dravo Van Houten. Inc. Attn: Clem Cameron Niego Associates Attn: Sol Niego Dunn Engineering Attn: Walter Dunn B. Laing Associates Attn: Michael Bontje lU/S2-S3 ... . . . . l PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU PETERV. SNYDER JOHN,J, HART JOHN J. ROE. III FREDERIC L. ATWOOD J. TIMOTHY SHEA BRUCE T. WALLACE KEVIN A. SEAMAN VANESSA M. SHEEHAN- BENJAMIN l. HERZWE1G ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW 20 CHURCH STREET - BOX liD PATCHOGUE, NEW YORK 11772 TEL 516447-8900 FAX 516 475- 5651 ROBERT S. PELLETREAU (1891-1943) RICHARD A. SCHOENFELD (195O-19BO) ROBERT H. PELlETREAU OF' COUNSEL. RUSSELL C. BURCHERI 0- DOUGLAS,J. LEROSE DENNIS D. O'DOHERTY, JR. 447-8906 -ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA OALSO ADMITTED IN NEW JERSEY July 28. 1988 Town of Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, New York Attention: Valerie 11971 Scopaz. Town Planner RE: Marina Bay Club New Suffolk. New York Dear Ms. Scopaz: We have received. after inquiry, a copy of the comments from the Division of Coastal Resources and Waterfront Revitalization which was sent to you by letter dated November 27. 1987. We note. also, that a copy was sent to then-Councilman. Paul Stoutenburgh. We are astonished that we were not made aware of this, by you, or by anyone connected with the Planning Board or by Mr. Stoutenburgh. In light of Mr. Emilita's Response *14 from his Memorandum to the Planning Board dated June 24, 1988, and I quote: "Referral to and comment from the New York State Department of State's Coastal Management Program is not reported in the DElS and will need to be addressed before the FElS can be completed...", your failure to either furnish this to either Mr. the developer constitutes actionable malfeasance. incurred enormous expense occasioned by the delay par.ticipated. Emi Ii ta or to We have in which you .. . . . . . PELLETREAU 8< PELLETREAU June 28, 1988 Page 2 If, as a result of your failure to communicate this information, there is a loss suffered by our client, it will be our intention to advise him to pursue his legal remedies against you personally. We are experiencing several unnecessary delays in processing other projects through the Planning Board which we feel are unnecessary hindrances. We would appreciate your cooperation in expediting these applications. Very truly yours, LETREAU & PELLETREAU !'h J. etf0~- cc: Hon. Francis J. Murphy Hon Jean W. Cochran Hon. Raymond W. Edwards Hon. Ruth Oliva Hon. Ellen Larsen Hon. George L. Penny IV James SChondebare, Esq, Town Attorney Hon Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Richard Ward, Member of the Planning Board Richard Latham, member of the Planning Board William Mullen, member of the Planning Board Kenneth Edwards, member of the Planning Board David Emi 1i ta Judith Terry, Town Clerk Paul Stoutenburgh Richard Carr Jean Celender Heory Raynor HOlzmacher, McLendon & Murrell Att: Sam McLendon Dravo Van Houten, Inc. Att: Clem Cameron Niego Associates Att: Sol Niego Dunn Engineering, P.C. Att: Walter Dunn B. 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I'.\(...e-/~k/R/ I " . -',,/r' /zl>(j~ . /6',l-L . . _ " - m.e tu;.~ JhJ C~A. c:",;r;.. (; f <-<L- ALCA:ta/ th ~( r L '-"- A. I. t:(;>..t:!<< of...... ~ \1.1, b ^ () / . ' " f I. "",,,t" i'.,' ,....."I!' ;? . EC, ~;'...,,,.J t, " 1"1 - ,4'~_g k. ~,....?,L. G , " REPLY ~II' I Rf("I:I~/ED 131" ~~,wr~~: OAt 138. . . . . . Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 TELEPHONE (516) 765-1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD July 27, 1988 Henry Raynor 320 Love Lane Mattituck, NY 11952 RE: Marina Bay Club SCTM #1000-117-8-18 Dear Mr. Raynor: The following action was taken by the Southold Town Planning Board on Monday, July 25, 1988. RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board have the applicant address the correspondence, dated July 6, 1988, from the Department of Environmental Conservation in the Draft Environmental Impact Statement. This parcel is on 3.45 acres located at New Suffolk. .' If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact this office. Ker trUlY. your>-; -/-J / P ~ctptrrY 1/ BENNETT ORLOWSKi,JR. CHAIRMAN v enc: cc: John J. Hart jt ~ . ---.......... . . _, s . ) .. New York State Department of Environmental Cons Building 40-SUNY, Stony Brook, New York 11794 (516) 751-7900 Thomas C. Jorllng Commissioner July 6, 1988 Southold Town Planning Board Town Hall 53095 Main Rd. P.O. Box 728 Southold, NY lUl18 Re: DEC Application No. 10-85-0840 Marina Bay Club Dear Sir: We conducted a field inspection and reviewed the DEIS and have the following questions/comments to make. Please update us as to the applicants response to the letters generated from review of the DEIS Page I. 3 Additionally the applicant should describe how the marina expansion, the reverse osmosis system and sewage treatment system will impact recreational and commercial Shellfisheries and finfisheries in the immediate and adjacent areas. What is the total amount in square footage of littoral zone and coastal shoals that will be created and/or destroyed resulting from the bulk- heading, dred~ing and fll1 portions of this project. Page I. 7 We suggest that the fishing pier should be made available to the general public not just patrons of this facility. Stationary pumpout facilities must be provided at this facility if approved. We suggest locating the pumpout at the gas dock. Further details including the type, capacity, holding tanks details, etc. will require further DEC review. Will the effluent discharge meet New York State surface water quality standards for discharge? We recommend that the parking area be constructed of permeable materials. It is not clear if the applicant will require a variance to the 75' minimum setback outlined in Part 661 (Tldal wetlands Land Use Regulations) for those sections of construction within our jurisdiction (upland). Also, our limit for percentage coverage for adjacent is 2Uk. Please have applicant address .~ .. .. . , .- Southolo Town Planning Board July 6, 1988 Page 2 these concerns. Thank you for allowing us this opportunity for comment. Sincerely, D~~ LJ ~ Dennis W. Cole Senior Environmental Analyst DWC : j f cc: file .- ~ . ,.. . . p T D Southold, N.Y. -11971 (516) 765-1938 July 13, 1988 Henry Raynor 320 Love Lane' Mattituck, NY 11952 RE: Marina Bay Club SCTM ~1000-117-8-18 Dear Mr. Raynor: The following action was taken by the Southold Town Planning Board on Monday, July 11, 1988. RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board declare the second supplemental DEIS is incomplete. There are deficiencies that need to be addressed before the DEIS will be deemed complete. This parcel is on 3.45 acres located at New Suffolk. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact this office. BENNETT ORLOWSKI,JR. CHAIRMAN enc. jt ... . " . . T D Southold. N.Y.'1l971 (516) 765-1938 July 13, 1988 Henry Raynor 320 Love Lane Mattituck, NY 11952 RE: Marina Bay Club SCTM #1000-117-8-18 Dear Mr. Raynor: The second supplement to the draft environmental impact statement has been reviewed. The Planning Board finds that the second supplement still does not address all of the deficiencies that were posed to the applicant at the January 1988 meeting and in the April 7, 1988 review by Szepatowski Associates of the first supplement. These deficiencies are stated in Mr. Emilita's memorandum to the Planning Board dated June 24, 1988, and, to our understanding, also were communicated verbally to the applicant by Mr. Emilita. The Planning Board feels that the DEIS and its two supplements are not complete. Before accepting the document and setting a pUblic hearing and comment period, the Planning Board feels the supplement should address the deficiencies noted herein. Therefore, the Planning Board hereby declares its intention to forward to the applicant a copy of Mr. Emilita's letter of June 24, 1988, with a request that the deficiencies noted therein (as they pertain to Responses 7,8,9,10,12,13,14,16) be addressed. - . . . . Further, the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation in a letter dated July 5, 1988 and the Trustees in a letter dated JUly 11, 1988 have requested additional time within which to review the second supplement. Any comments that are recieved from these agencies will be forwarded to the applicant upon their receipt in the Planning Board office. Very truly yours, ."-,, /) /l /) /,.............1 ;:" j'J"...." ./' / I~ / //" ...."" ~ //-6/ ...L-:J' \, L::",LT'" /1 /' ":' ....:' /1 ,'.; \. "-?<//:, ./ ,.../i..jl......~ v "./' VBENNETif/ORLOWSKI ,cji<.. ' .r CHAIRMAN jt .~ . ~ . Copies mailed to: Suffolk County Department of Health Services Suffolk County Planning Commission NYS Department of Environmental Conservation Supervisor Murphy Judith Terry, Town Clerk Building Department Board of Appeals Board of Trustees Planning Board Members . o . . . FRANK A. KUJAWSKI, JR., President ALBERT J. KRUPSKI, JR., Vice-President JOHN M. BREDEMEYER, III JOHN L. BEDNOSKI, JR. HENRY P. SMITH TELEPHONE (516) 765-1892 BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 728 Southold, New Yark 119?1 To: Bennett Orlowski, Chairman Planning Board From: Town Trustees Re: Marina Bay Club Date: June 11, 1988 This office respectfully requests an additional extension of time regarding the D.E.I.S. for the Marina Bay Club project, for the purpose of reviewing the document. FK:ip RECEIVED BY SOUlKOlO 10\)N h.J\iiNI"G BO^R11 JUL 1 DATE / -,'.-- ---.. 14-00-1 (8I81)-lOa It . NEW YORK STATE OfPARTMENT RONME ONSERVATlON RECULA FFAIRS ..A...n",. SPEED MEMO "EON~~ UNOFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE) to: ~4rOr!aIJ$/c/.!1.C"f~ ~~I1,^TE: 1I4rl' FROM: ~/~~A-; $;."'42 MisotfcJfL, ~ REPLY REQUIRED BY: SUBJECT: ~aA' Uor~'Ja- DATE RETURNED: REPLY AT BOTTOM OF THIS FORM r: S:ly4~ f>> pElS - ~/koM'.c&, fL.l-schlt /f1TIJ-//:r-.~-1 r ~ In- /Irlit ,dVt'w-r~~ ~/..~. ~Ha~r ~~ v ' I /LU'tW ~ '" '<.4 .t61'4....J-<.. Jb r/-- I f< I <'/?/& /,W'." ;( _/".e"j'1"""'-- 'Ii) ~ AtJ---'~/""'i/t.6.- 3~'#,?' ,,-?,,-r:~~~ i' . ~ 4.-,L r,,#-6~-Ia pels - 6/,1I~/.e-- f N --4~ ~ r .r-- . ~~) ~t7~'~~ ~sc~~~ ,/0 -~ - () - c.J; ~ s rt-u'.) 'Z.l ~,() z~ r/" -11J/~2~-tJ."J'I~. ~L".n1.~ ~ .~.....'-I k,rnl/lr~~r~. L.,-.<./#L " p .... " ' ~~ /0/~ -:" ~IHJ~~ ~A""'.u...- ..tIftZ.-/rL.-.... 7: d:-...~~ u: p.b 'I t::f/:f i.~~:3.~:::.:::~-)j;4! , ~12; .,L ~~~~~-:~,~~,~ 7r:t::!k~t/;:-~ ftPLY RErE,'IEO 8)" ~~~/ -~.~~.....Lo-..._ .... t . . . . RECEIVED BY SOUTHOLD TOWN PlANNING BOARI!r- JUN 27 1988./ DATE ,IS G.-2.7-lf8' S41 SZEPATOWSKI ASSOCIATES INC. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS & PLANNERS S41 MEMORANDUM TO: Southold Pl~~ng Board David J.S.~, Szeaptowski Associates, Inc. FROM: RE: Marina Bay Club DEIS and Supplements 1 and 2 DATE: June 24, 1988 We have reciewed the documents cited above and make the following recommendations to you: 1. The three documents taken together constitute a significant amount of new information since the last public hearing of 9 Nov 87 on the DEIS alone. 2. Many questions remain unanswered to date. However they can be addressed during a new public comment period. Our questions are detailed below and are keyed to Supplement No. 2. Response No.7 First Street drainage is shown to be via catch basins at the low spots. It appears however that when the catch basins are full, runoff is intended to find its way to the IS" RCP drain through tide gates to the docking areas. However at the southerly end of First Street, road grade elevations appear to continue to drop. What frequency storm will be captured by the catch basin system without overflowing to the Bay? will the road simply drain south and never enter the southerly drain? Have the Highway Superintendent, Trustees and other Town agencies approved of this concept? Who will be responsible for maintaining this overflow system and the tide gates? 23 Narragansett Ave. Jamestown, RI 02635 (401) 423-0430 -. , . . . . Response No.8 We repeat that no acknowledgement of Mr. Jacobs review appears in the Supplement. Response No.9 The Planning Board will be the final arbiter of parking area pavement specifications. The NYSDEC has no override over local zoning requirements. Drainage calculations should thus be based on an asphalt surface. Drainage calculations should be produced to verify the conclusions reached. A 2" rainfall may be a minimum requirement, however the Planning Board would need assurance that greater than a minimum drainage requirement could be met. Response No. III until the recommendations of the Health Department with respect to the water supply and sewage treatment systems have been received, the DEIS cannot mature to an FEIS. See the SCDHS letter of 19 November 1987. Response No. 12 The Consumer Information Sheets in connection with inorganic arsenic and creosote treated wood on pages B 14-17 of the Supplement to the DEIS state that, "(treated) wood should not be used where it may come into direct or indirect contact with public drinking water except for uses involving incidental contact such as docks or bridges." The well screen intake for the water treatment system is shown to be quite close, within a few feet, of proposed dockage. It is not clear whether this is "incidental contact" in the context of the information sheet. Input from the County Health Department is necessary. S41 SZEPATOWSKI ASSOCIATES INC. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS & PLANNERS S41 . . . . Response No. 13 and No. 14 The Town Attorney should be consulted to verify the claims of riparian rights and extensions beyond same. Referral to and comment from the New York State Department of State's Coastal Management Program is not reported in the DEIS and will need to be addressed before the FEIS can be completed. Response No. 16 The disposal site for the excess material is still not discussed conclusively. This must be addressed so that the Planning Board can assess the impact on the disposal site and properties adjacent to it. 3. In the interest of timeliness as expressed in Section 617.3 of the SEQR Regulations, particularly with respect to review by other involved agencies, we recommend that the Board accept the DEIS together with Supplements 1 and 2 as satisfactory with respect to scope, content and adequacy and commence a new public comment period. Said public comment period should include a public hearing. We recommend that it not be held until after all involved agency reports have been submitted to the Planning Board. Following said public comment period, it may then be possible to move to an FEIS. SLlI SZEPATQWSKI ASSOCIATES INC. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS & PLANNERS SLlI " . . . . NAY 19 198~ PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU PETERY. SNYDER JOHN J. HART JOHNJ.ROE,1I1 FREDERIC L. ATWOOD J TIMOTHY SHEA BRUCt T. WALLACE KEVIN A. SEAMAN VANESSA M 5HEEHAW BENJAMIN l HERZwEIG ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW 20 CHURCH STREET - BOX 110 PATCHOGUE, NEW YORK 11772 TEL. !SItS 447-8900 FAX 516 475- 5651 DIRECT DIAL ROBERT 5 PEL.LETREAU (t8li1l-1e<43) RICHARD A SCHOENFELD (18&(H880) ROBERT H. PELL.ETREAU OF COUNSEL. RUSSEL.L C. BURCHERI 0 DOUGLAS J LEROSE DENNISQ. O'DOHERTY JR. 447-8906 -ALSO ADMITTED IN FL.ORIOA OALSO ADMITTED IN NEW JERSEY May 18, 1988 Hon. Francis J. Murphy Supervisor, Town of Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Councilwoman Ruth Oliva Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Council Members: Hon. Jean W. Cochran P.O. Box 285 Southold, New York 11971 Councilwoman Ellen Larsen Town Ha 11 53095 Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Hon. Raymond W. Edwards P.O. Box 511 Fishers Island, New York 06390 Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Planning Board Director Town of Southold Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Hon. George L, Penny, IV P.O. Box 57 Greenport, New York 11944 Ms. Judith Terry Town Clerk, Town of Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, New York 11971 RE: MARINA BAY CLUB New Suffolk, New York Dear Supervisor Murphy, Council Members and Mr. Orlowski: On behalf of our client, Richard T. Carr, we are submitting eight (8) copies of Supplement No. 2 to the Draft Environmental Impact Statement on the Marina Bay Club project. This supplemental report appends the original DEIS and Supplemental submitted on March 8, 1988. Additional Changes have been made to the site plan in response to comments made by your consultant, Szepatowski Associates, Inc., Ltd. (April 7, 1988), in reviewing the first Supplement report. Copies of the revised Site Plan are included in the rear pocket of this report. . . . . PELLETREAU a PELLETREAU Page 2 May 18. 1988 RE: Marina Bay Club We have taken the liberty of forwarding a copy of the report directly to Szepatowski Associates for their review. Should you have any questions regarding the above or need additional copies of the report for your review. please feel free to contact our office. Very truly yours. PCFA~ ~ :;:;(~~ Jo~n J. Hart. Esq. JFH:hmm Encl. Ol31U/1-3 . . . f111.L 01 1~8a PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW 20 CHURCH STREn - BOX 110 PATCHOGUE, NEW YORK 11772 TEL. 516447-8900 FAX 516 475 - 5651 DIRECT DIAL ROBERT 5 PELLETREAU (189H9043) RICHARD /II. SCHOENFELD (1950-1980) PETERV. SNYDER JOHN J. HART JOHN J. ROE. III FREDERIC L. ATWOOD J TIMOTHY SHEA BRUCE T. WALLACE KEVIN A. SEAMAN VANESSA M. SHEEHAN- BENJAMIN L HERZWEIG ROBERT H. PELLETREAU OF' COUNSEL RUSSELL C. BURCHERI 0 OOUGLASJ. LEROSE DENNIS D, O'OOHERTY, JR. 447-8906 -ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA OALSO ADMITTED IN NEW JERSEY May 18, 1988 Hon. Francis J. Murphy Supervisor, Town of Southold Town Ha 11 53095 Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Councilwoman Ruth Oliva Town Ha 11 53095 Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Council Members: Hon. Jean W. Cochran P.O. Box 285 Southold, New York 11971 Councilwoman Ellen Larsen Town Ha 11 53095 Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Hon. Raymond W. Edwards P.O. Box 511 FiShers Island, New York 06390 Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Planning Board Director Town of Southold Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Hon. George L. Penny, IV P.O. Box 57 Greenport, New York 11944 Ms. Judith Terry Town Clerk, Town of Southold Town Ha 11 53095 Main Road Southold, New York 11971 RE: MARINA BAY CLUB New Suffolk, New York Dear Supervisor Murphy, Council Members and Mr. Orlowski: On behalf of our client, Richard T. Carr, we are submitting eight (8) copies of Supplement No. 2 to the Draft Environmental Impact Statement on the Marina Bay Club project. This supplemental report appends the original DEIS and Supplemental submitted on March 8, 1988. Additional changes have been made to the site plan in response to comments made by your consultant, Szepatowski Associates, Inc., Ltd. (April 7, 1988), in reviewing the first Supplement report. Copies of the revised Site Plan are included in the rear pocket of this report. . . . . PELLETREAU a PELLETREAU Page 2 May 18, 1988 RE: Marina Bay Club We have taken the liberty of forwarding a copy of the report directly to Szepatowski Associates for their review. Should you have any questions regarding the above or need additional copies of the report for your review, please feel free to contact our office. Very truly yours, PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU..J ~ ~' ~^":t:(9~~ Jotin J. Hart, Esq. JFH:hmm Encl. Ol31U/1-3 .. .. T D p Southold, N.Y. 11971 (516) 765-1938 June 23, 1988 Southold Town Trustees Town Hall Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Dear Trustee Members: Enclosed please find the proposed supplement to the Draft Environmental Impact Statement for Marina Bay Club. Your determination is needed as to whether this document should be deemed complete and acceptable for review and public comment. Please notify this office by July 8th as to your position on whether the Planning Board, as lead agent, should accept this document. If a thirty day extension of time is needed for your determination, also inform this office by July 8th. You will be notified in writing of the Planning Board's decision, the acceptance date and the conclusion date of the comment period. jd .A </ v .. .. T D Southold. N.Y. 11971 (516) 765-1938 June 23, 1988 Suffolk County Department of Health Services County Center Riverhead, New York 11901 Dear Sirs: Enclosed please find the proposed supplement to the Draft Environmental Impact Statement for Marina Bay Club. Your determination is needed as to whether this document should be deemed complete and acceptable for review and public comment. Please notify this office by July 8th as to your position on whether the Planning Board, as lead agent, should accept this document. If a thirty day extension of time is needed for your determination, also inform this office by July 8th. You will be notified in writing of the Planning Board's decision, the acceptance date and the conclusion date of the comment period. CHAIRMAN jd ,,1 " ~. . / .,. , 1/ . . . . p T D .... <...::.. Soulhold. N.Y. 11971 (516) 765-1938 June 2, 1988 Henry Raynor 320 Love Lane Mattituck, NY 11952 Re: Marina Bay Club SCTM #1000-117-8-18 Dear Mr. Raynor: . Enclosed find a copy of a letter to the Planning Board regarding the bUdget for the Marina Bay Club DEIS. Szepatowski Associates,Inc. has informed this office that an additional $2000.00 is required to continue review of this matter. Your prompt attention is appreciated. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact this office. ~;;a BENNETT ORLOWSKI,JR. CHAIRMAN Ene: jt . . . . MAY 19 198& V S41 Ltd. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS & PLANNERS S41 May 17, 1988 Mr. Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Chairman South old Town planning Board 531il95 Main Road Southold, NY 11971 Re: Marina Bay Club DEIS Dear Mr. Orlowski, We have been in contact with the preparer of the DEIS and expect the supplement to be submitted shortly. We also find that the budget for the Marina Bay Club DEIS has now been expended and another $21il1il1il.1il1il is requested at this time to ensure continuing review. Please let us know when the funds become available so that we may continue our work on the project. Sincerely, SZEPATOWSKI ASSOCIATES, INC. ~~~ Ka en Braica project Administrator :kb 23 Narragansett Ave. Jamestown, RI 02835 (401) 423-0430 . ~ . . SOUlhold. N.Y. 11971 (516) 765-1938 April 13, 1988 Henry Raynor P.O. Drawer A Jamesport, NY 11947 RE: Marina Bay Club SCTM #1000-117-8-18 Dear Mr. Raynor: The fOllowing action was taken by the Southold Town Planning Board on Monday, April 11, 1988. RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board request compliance with the report of Dave Emilita , Szepatowski Associates, dated April 7, 1988. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact this office. Very truly yours, 80~U~ BENNETT ORLOWSKI,JR~ CHAIRMAN r jt .~. . . S4ILtd. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS & PLANNERS S41 MEMORANDUM TO: Southold Town Planning Board RE: Comments on Marina Bay Club Supplement to the DEIS dated March 1988 FROM: Szepatowski Associates. Inc.. Ltd. DATE: April 7. 1988 We have reviewed the above mentioned supplement to the DEIS and have found several inadequacies and/or discrepancies with regard to the project document. We recommend that the document be deemed incomplete until these issues. as listed below. have been adequately addressed. 1. Site Access and Traffic a. The 4 parking spaces to the south for employee parking seem inaccessible and awkward to exit from. b. The traffic restriction - "no right turn" is a good mitigation measure but a sign alone will not be sufficient. It should be designed to prevent a right hand turn. c. Response to Comment No. 92 - Parallel parking 9' wide is proposed on Main Street which will undoubtedly create a traffic hazard. An alternate parking plan is recommended. d. Response to Comment No. 93 - The southerly exit and parking area doesn't provide turning radius for vehicles. An alternate layout should be considered. or the need for this parking area at all. e. Response to Comment No. 94 - The lack of parking is justified by comparison to the lack of parking at other local marinas and that the Town parking requirement was too high. This doesn't adequately answer the issue of parking. f. Response to Comment No. 95 - The increase to double the amount of vehicles is not minimal. 23 Narrag;lnsett Ave. Jamestown, RI 02835 (401) 423-0430 S41 . . . . 2. Drainage a. Significant flooding overflow is proposed to go into Cutchogue Bay. This is not recommended and an alternative drainage plan is recommended. b. It is noted in the document that the drainage plan proposed was reviewed by Raymond Jacobs, Highway Superintendent, however, there is no correspondence to support this statement. c. Response to Comment No. 112 - The drainage calculations are computed based on a 4" gravel course in the parking area, however, they should be based on asphalt since that is the Planning Board's requirement. Also, a 2" rainfall is inadequate. a minimum should be a 4" storm. What is the frequency of a rainfall which would cause storm water overflow into the Bay? 3. Sewage Treatment and Water Supply a. Response to Comment No. 55 - The water supply system should be reviewed by the Suffolk County Department of Health Services in the SEQRA process not simply prior to commencing construction. The Health Department has not reviewed the sewage disposal and water supply facility designs. (See Page B.29). The Health Department asks that the DEIS be deemed incomplete until this information has been received. 4. Landscaping a. A landscape plan is mentioned in the document but not contained on either map SP1 or SP2. 5. Bulkheading a. Response to Comments No. 106 and 107 state that the AWPI and EPA state that creosote and CCA are environmentally acceptable. There is no reference to this, however. in the correspondence from these agencies. -2- SZEPATOWSkl ASSOCIATES INC. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS S41 S41 . . . . 6. Underwater Land and Riparian Rights a. Response to Comment No. 36 is poor since it doesn't elaborate in any detail the question of ownership but only reiterates what has already been said. The response to Comment No. 37 is also poor and perhaps a title search should be done. b. Response to Comment No. 40 is questionable - does the owner have the right to go beyond the grant line? It may impede navigation. c. The response to Comment No. 104 is questionable - it states that 14 boats an hour does not produce a very dense traffic pattern. No comparisons are given by way of illustration. d. It is recommended that a cross section of the property be prepared to show that all the cubic yards of fill can be accommodated on the site. -3- SZEPATOWSKI ASSOCIATES INC. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS S41 . JAC PLANNING CORP. - Excelsior Building, Suite 210, One Over/ook Avenue, Great Neck, NY 11021 . 516-4B7-4549 March 17. 1988 Bennett Orlowski. Jr. Planning Board Chairman Town of Southold Planning Board Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, NY 11971 Re: Marina Bay Club Dear Chairman Orlowski: On behalf of our client, Richard T. Carr, we are submitting five (5) additional copies of the Supplement to the Draft Environmental Impact Statement on the Marina Bay Club project. If you need anything further, please do not hesitate to contact our office. Very truly yours, JAC PLANNING CORP,. ~ ~a,aa~ / . an A. Celender JAC:da cc: D. Carr H. Raynor J, Hart, Esq. . \) . . II (-"l': 1 <?' PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU PETE~V, SNYDER JOHN J. HART JOHN J. ROE. III F"REDtRIC L. ATWOOD J TIMOTHY SHEA BRUCE T. WALLACE KEVIN A. SEAMAN VANESSA M. SHEEHAW BENJAMIN L. HERZW[lG ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW 20 CHURCH STREET - BOX 110 PATCHOGUE, NEW YORK 11772 TEL. 516447-8900 FAX 516 475- 5651 01 RECT DIAL ROBERT 5 PELlETREAU (1891.1943) RICHAROA SCHOENFELD (1950-1980) ROBERT H. PELLETREAU OF COUNSEL RUSSELL C. BURCHERI 0 DOUGLAS j. LEROSE DENNtS O. O'DOHERTY, JR 447-8906 .ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA OALSO ADMITTCD IN NEW JERSEY March 15, 1988 EXPRF.SS MAIL David J. S. Emilita, AICP Szepatowski Associates, Inc. 23 Narragansett Avenue Jamestown, Rhode Island 02835 RE: MARINA BAY CLUB, INC. New Suffolk, New York Dear Mr. Emilita: As per Valerie Scopaz's request, I am forwarding a copy of the Supplement to the Draft Environmental Impact Statement on the above project to your attention and for your review. Copies of the Supplement were delivered to the Town of Southold's Planning Department on March II, 1988. Should you have any questions, please feel free to contact the undersigned. Very truly yours, LLETREAU & PELLETREAU -...1~ t.kvt F. Haeberle Assistant JFH:hmm Encl. cc: Valerie Icopaz 1.U/31 eA \ ef New York State Department of Environmental Conservation. Building 40-SUNY, Stony Brook, New York 11794 (5]6) 75]-7900 February 29, 1988 Mr. Richard T. Carr, President Marina Bay Club Assoc. 350 Fifth Ave. Room 1826 New York, NY 10118 Re: 10-85-0840 Marina Bay Club, New Suffolk Dear Mr. Carr: ~ Thomas C. Jorllng Commissioner In accordance with our telephone conversation on January 26, 1988, we are waiting for confirmation that the. field staking is completed so we can fully evaluate this project. Sincerely, C' . '- n. lJ Q/)VvJ...'l Uj , ~ Dennis W. Cole Senior Environmental Analyst DWC : j f cc: Southold file Town Planning / ill(~ ~~ I,~ ", "J . '. . . Southold, N.Y. 11971 (516) 765-1938 Fehruary 17, 1988 Mr. Henry E. Raynor, Jr. P.O. Drawer A Jamesport, NY 11947 RE: Marina Bay Cluh Dear Mr. Raynor: The following action was taken hy the Southold Town Planning Board on Monday, Fehruary 8, 1988. RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board grant a 90 day extension on the filing of the supplemental Draft Environmental Impact Statement for the site plan of Marina Bay Cluh located at New Suffolk. SCTM #1000-117-8-18 It was understood that the 90 day period will run from January 11, 1988 to March 11, 1988. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact our office. Very truly yours, . () ,,/ oj of.. .1' 0 1)811/nJl.t[. U.M-c~ /'u. BENNETT ORLOWSKI,JR. CHA~RMAN SOUTH OLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD ; ,r cc: John J. Hart, Pelleetl!sa'.-.and:.Pelleer.eaac.:.- jt ~' . . JAC PLANNING CORP. SCf~ . . Excelsior Building, Suite 210, One Overlook Avenue, Great Neck, NY 11021 . 516 - 487 - 4549 February 9, 1988 Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman Southold Town Planning Board Town Hell I Main Road Southold, NY 11971 Re: Marina Bay Club Dear Chairman Orlowski: This is to modify our letter of January 29, 1988 and to clarify the applicant's position regarding the report we are preparing for submission to the Board. Based upon my understanding of discussions at recent Planning Board meetings and a telephone conversation that I had with David Emilita, we are preparing one document that will contain the following: . Supplement to the Draft Environmental Impact Statement (addressing a revised scaled down plan) . Applicant's Submission for the Final Environmental Impact Statement (responses to comments on DEIS) We are in the process of finalizing the report and antici- pate submission shortly to the Board. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact our office. JAC:da Very truly yours, aAaN(!~#Q ~ A. Celender --- cc: D. Carr H. Raynor J. Hart, Esq. S. Niego G. Loesch, P.E. W. Dunn, P.E. C. Cameron, P.E. RECEIVED BY ~OUrl'n' n ,", \.i iulu 1J...i ~11J988,,___ I r~n:n L"..,j ( . , . . .. t 1 PETEFfv. SNYDER JOHN J. HART JOHNJ. ROE,III FREDERIC L. ATWOOD .J. TIMOTHY SHEA BRUCE T. WALLACE KEVIN A. SEAMAN VANESSA M. SHEEHAW BENJAMIN L HERZWEIG PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW 20 CHURCH STREET - BOX 110 PATCHOGUE. NEW YORK 11772 TEL. 516447-8900 FAX 516/475-5651 ROBERT 5 PEI..LETREAU (ISSI-1943) RICHARD A. SCHOENFELD (1950-1980) ROBERT H. PELLETREAU OF COUNSEL DIRECT DIAL 447-8906 RUSSELL C. BURCHERI 0 DOUGLAS J. LEROSE DENNIS D. O'DOHERTY. JR. -ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA <>ALSO ADMITTED IN NEW JERSEY February 9, 1988 Town of Southold Town Hall 53095 Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Attention: Bennett Orlowski, Chairman Southold Planning Board Re: Marina Bay Club Review Fee Dear Chairman Orlowski: In a letter sent to you by David Emilita on January 12, 1988, a copy of which is enclosed, it was requested that Mr. Carr submit an additional $2.000.00 as an "augmentation to the review fee account" for this application. In keeping with that request, we enclose a check from Mr. Carr in that amount. Very truly yours, PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU ~~ Legal Assistant JFH: lyn Enclosure cc: Jean Celender Richard Carr OlU(27) RECEIVED BY SOUr"rLD r ,." .". ." I:J ij"i', rL,;,,,,;,q BOARD ---flBIl 1988 . .. . -r" ..I .. ,c; ..:l:.:VED ll't' ~u~i;ti~N-' f~:i~a~gIT 841 Ltd. ~NVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS & PLANNERS 841 [11-n: January 12, 1988 Mr. Bennett Orlowski Chairman Southold Planning Board Town Hall 53095 f.1ain Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, NY 11971 Re: ~iarina Bay Club Review Fee Dear Ben: Per my call to Dianne today, this letter will serve as a reminder to request the applicant for an augmentation to the review fee account for this application. An amount equal to the first installment of $2,000 should prove sufficient to complete SEQR on this application given the satisfactory progress reported on last nights meeting. Thank you for your attention. Sincerely, SZEPATOHSKI ASSOCIATES-, INC. ~~ Principal Planner DJSE/mt - 23 I"arragansett Ave__. Jamestown,. RI 02835 (401) 423-0430 .... . . . ..~d_ , '. Cc Southold, N.Y. 11971 (516) 765-1938 PLANNING BOARD MINUTES On January 25, 1988 at 7:30 p.m. the Southold Town Planning Board held a regular meeting at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold. Present were: Mr. Bennett Orlowski, Chairman William F. Mullen, Jr., Member G. Ritchie Latham, Jr., Member Richard G. Ward, Member Victor Lessard, Executive Administrator .- c( Absent: Kenneth Edwards, Member 7:30 p.m. Public Hearing on the question of approval of the minor subdivision of John and Catherir.e Simichich Hr. Orlowski: We have proof of publication in the Long Island 7ruve~p.r War~hman and proof of publication in the Suffolk Times. At this timp. 'everything is in order for a public hearing and r'll ask if there are any objectiono to this minor subdivision? Are there any endorsements to this minor subdivision? Chc.rlef Cuc1c:.,:. We've been here for a number of months, we haG Health. Department approval, large lots being done in conjunction with another. subdivision of Horton.S~ith, I1attituck who is really see~ng seVen plus acre lots and we've prepared to oubmit a declaration in connection with the other Smith parcel. I believe at. this point there is nothing for the board to do but.approve this and allow us.tp go. ahead with that e::change and I appreciate being first, I never had that Oppo1"tunity. Hr. Orlowski: O.K. are there any' o.ther endorsements of this subdivision? Heari~g none, is anyone out there either pro or con are have information pertaining ::0 this. subdiVision tha't would be of interest to .this board? Any qup.:stion from the board? None. Hear:.ng closed 7:45 p.m. Public Hearing on the Draft Environ~ental Impact Statement ,nubmitted for Tidemark. "This proposal ia for CO:lstruction ". ".- ~ .' of a 75-unit mote~ .located at County Route 48, Grp.p.nport. l(, ." .' -. . . . . :;Lf Planning Board Page 2 January 25, 1988 ( ( Mr. Goehringer: Since I'm only one person and I'm not talking specifi- cally for the board, but basically for myself. I reviewed the DEIS and there are certain very critical areas mentioned in the specific statement itself. At this particular time, I would urge the board personally, not to accept it, or to do a negative declaration until such a time the issue of traffic is really addressed. My feeling in particular, it is not a feeling of the board, would be to stake ingress and egress and then go back at look at the visibility situa- tion. The impact statement refers to right and left hand turns, it refers to probability of how many cars are going to be making right and left hand turns onto County Road 48 and this is a very, very severe area for making such turns both right and left. Certainly not as severe going one way as the other. That is particularly my concern at this particular time. There are some minor issues that I will speci- fically look at during the time that it comes to the board but not necessarily a fact that it will hold up accepting or rejecting my particular opinion but definitely the traffic is one that we all have a concern about. Mr. Orlowski: Thank you. Any other comments? Cc Mr. Henry Raynor: I would like to address, particularly, the item that was included in the draft DEIS. I feel that the revisions that were sent forward and the changes that have indicated particularly on set- backs and road control stipulations with regard to the project in question that were addressed. The question of drinking ground water which has come up will be suitably maintained with regard to contract with the Village of Greenport. The question of impact with regard to the bluff beach area again falls within the original juristiction of the soil and erosion control pertinent in that particular and very sensitive area. The plans have been amended by Henderson Bodwell, reflects other concerns of the environmental planner. I would certainly ask that this be accepted and include a final DEIS. The question has arisen as to the traffic control addressed within the concerns and within the outline of the draft DEIS and the figures that are indicated with regard to traffic on this project are certainly of a very minimal' effect and I would ask the board to accept and go forward with the determination. If the board has any questions, our representative from Henderson Bodwell pres'ent this evening, if there are specific questions from the board and I realize there. is a 30 day period, we would be happy to address them in writing., Thank you. Mr. Orlowski: Any other comment? No further comments. Questions from the board? Mr., Mullen? Mr. 'Latham? Mr. Ward? There are COlTU!lents from Mr. Emmilita has review it anrl ~is report will be on file in the office. Ms. Scopaz any question&? Ms. Scopaz: I will be submitting a report to the board on my views. At this point.of time I will only say that .the traffic is a primary concern. Cc . ~lr. Orlowski: Being no further q,uestions, I declare this hearing closed. Thank- you for coming down,;,,' . . . . P. O. Drawer A Jamesport, NY 11947 February 5, 1988 Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman Southold Town Planning Board Main Road Southold, NY 11971 Dear Mr. Orlowski: RE: Marina Bay Club As agent for Marina Bay Club, I formally request an extension of time, up to ninety days, for submission of the Supplemental Draft Environmental Impact Statement requested by your Board. Sincerely, H~:a-R~~~' HER:ml CC: Richard Carr John J. Hart, Esq. J.A.C. Planning Niego Associates H2M Walter Dunn, P.E. RECEIVED BY SOUYHOlD TOWN PlANNING BOi\RO - ol~ti8 DATE . JAC PLANNING CORP. . ~ior Building, Suite 210, / / · "RElvED BY SOllTIIEDW TOWN PlANNING BDARrr FF B .. d One Overlook Avenue, Great Neck, NY 11021 . 516- 4549 January 29, 1988 Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman / Southold Town Planning Board / Main Road Southold, NY 11971 Re: Marina Bay Club Dear Chairman Orlowski: In response to your January 27, 1988 letter requesting further clarification, we are continuing to prepare the applicant's responses to comments made regarding the Draft Environmental Impact Statement. As stated in our letter of January 12, 1988, our report will be entitled "Applicant's Submissions for the Final Environmental Impact Statement" and is considered to be the applicant's portion or submission to the Final Environmental Impact Statement (FEIS). As stated in the January 12, 1988 letter, this report will include all current changes to the site plan which have been made as a result of input received in response to the DEIS. The site plan changes incorporate measures which will mitigate many of the public objections to the project but are not of a magnitude to necessitate a supplemental DEIS. If there are any questions, please don't hesitate to call. Very truly yours, JAC:da C PaN()~_ cc: D. Carr H. Raynor J. Hart, Esq. S. Niego G. Loesch, P.E. W. Dunn, P.E. C. Cameron, P.E. . . JAC PLANNING CORP. .'; nrc.-."1 1l..........J "d. - .IAN UJI'lA. r -J\ofJJ {V,)!:' Excelsior Building, Suite 210, One Overlook Avenue, Great Neck, NY 11021. 516-487-4549 January 12, 1988 Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman Southold Town Planning Board Main Road Southold, NY 11971 Re: Marina Bay Club Dear Chairman Orlowski: In furtherance of discussions held at the Planning Board's .January 11 meeting regarding the above project, we are continuing to prepare the applicant's responses to comments made regarding the Draft Environmental Impact Statement. Our report will be entitled "Applicant's Submissions for the Final Environmental Impact Statement" and will contain the following: a. responses to 113 comments received from agencies and the public, including Valerie Scopaz's executive summary. b. all current changes to the site plan as a result of input received and incorporating mitigating measures to address many of the public objections. It should be noted that our report is considered to be the applicant's portion or submission to the Final Environmental Impact Statement (FEIS). It is our understanding that the Board may also prepare their own responses to comments to include in the FEIS. We anticipate submission of the report sometime in March, 1988. Thank you for your consideration. Very truly yours, JAC:da JAC PLA~ eztq Celender cc: D. Carr H. Raynor J. Hart, Esq. S. Niego G. Loesch, P.E. W. Dunn, P.E. C. Cameron, P.E. . Jean A. Celender JAC Planning Corp. Excelsior Bldg. Suite 210 One Overlook Avenue Great Neck, NY 11021 Re: Marina Bay Club Dear Ms. Celender: . . . Southo1d, N.Y. 11971 (516) 765-1938 January 27, 1988 Enclosed is a copy of the minutes from the January 22, Planning Board meeting with regard to the above proposal. Has your clients position changed since this meeting where it was agreed that a supplemental Environmental Impact Statement would be submitted based on a scaled down plan? If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact our office. Very truly yours, [39~ f1tlALwskl \ /jA, BENNETT ORLOWSKI, JR. CHAIRMAN OD SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD if . . . . pAN 25 1988 '" UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE P.O. Box 534 705 White Horse Pike Absecon, New Jersey 08201 (609) 646-9310 January 22, 1988 Ms. Janet F. Haeberle, Legal Assistant Pelletreau and Pelletreau 20 Church Street - Box 110 Patchogue, New York 11772 Dear Ms. Haeberle: This responds to your January 5, 1988 letter to Thomas Sperry of my Long Island staff regarding the potential impacts to the bay scallop (Argopecten irradians irradians) and the waters of Cutchogue Harbor from the proposed construction of the Marina Bay Club at New Suffolk, Town of Southold, Suffolk County, New York. The following is for technical assistance only and does not represent the comments of the Secretary of the Interior in accordance with Section 2(b) of the Fish and Wildlife Coordination Act (16 U.S.C. 661-667e). Optimal bay scallop habitats are generally characterized by moderate salinities, vegetated subtidal bottoms, low wave energies and minimal water turbulence. Tidal creeks and protected embayments associated with Shelter Island and Long Island's north and south forks have produced the majority of Long Island's commercial bay scallop harvest.., The open waters of Cutchogue Harbor provide excellent and, in our opinion, indispensable habitat for bay scallops. The data contained in the draft environmental impact statement describe the use of a reverse osmosis water treatment plant which will discharge an effluent with a slightly more elevated content of dissolved solids than ambient conditions. Actual salinity changes will depend upon tidal water movement, solute dissociation and vertical stratification. The excellent tidal flushing of the area is expected to maintain existing salinities and thereby prevent adverse impacts of the effluent on Cutchogue Harbor biota. An expanded marina facility will increase incidental gasoline, oil and other fuel and lubricant discharges into local waters. However, such water quality degradation may be mitigated by the improvement of on-shore sewage collection ~I. . . . . and treatment. Most oily discharges are expected to occur within the marina facility where they can be easily contained and removed. Overall, the net effect of the proposed marina construction and operation should not produce significant adverse effects to local fish and wildlife resources. Please continue to coordinate with Mr. Sperry should further questions arise. Sincerely, (2It!oC;?o . Supervisor 2 r.- , . e . ~Acy a...-t- . _CE1VED BY SflU1HOUllOWN PlANNING BOARD _llE..C 1;) '1987 DATE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE P.O. Box 534 705 White Horse Pike Absecon, New Jersey 08201 (609) 646-9310 December II, 1987 Ms. Janet F. Haeberle, Legal Assistant Pelletreau and Pelletreau 20 Church Street Box 110 Patchogue, New York 11772 Dear Ms. Haeberle: The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (Service) has reviewed the draft environmental impact statement, provided by your letter, dated October 23, 1987, on the Marina Bay Club located near Cutchogue Harbor, Little Peconic Bay at New Suffolk, Town of Southold, Suffolk County, New York. We provide the following for your consideration. These comments do not represent the official comments of the Service in accordance with Section 2(b) of the Fish and Wildlife Coordination Act (16 U.S.C. 661-667e). General Comments The subject document adequately describes the fish and wildlife resources of the area. We concur that the proposed activity is more consistent with New York State Coastal Zone Management policies than the previously proposed condominium development which would have eliminated much public access to the waterway. The proposed marina use is water-dependent and will maintain public access and provide views of the waterway. Specific Comments Page 3.18 discusses the purpose of the significant coastal habitats program and indicates that the New York State Department of State is conducting public hearings regarding habitat designations. This comment is somewhat outdated as many significant coastal habitats for Suffolk County received formal designation in March 1987. The purpose of the program is well defined. Page 4.6 provides the calculations for the wastewater solute concentration to be generated by the reverse osmosis water treatment unit. The wastewater solute concentration will be approximately 1.5% greater than existing receiving water conditions. Although this increase is rather small, chronic, but slight bot tom salini ty increases, could result. Salinity increases may result in an environment more suitable to a variety of shellfish predators, particularly the Forbes seastar (Asterias forbesi). Slight impacts to the shellfish industry, particularly to local waters, could occur depending on other external environmental influences. ....- ., ~ . . . . Page 4.14 discusses why wood is the chosen material for marina construction purposes. Creosote is recommended as an important wood preservative. The Service prefers wood to be pressure treated with preservative salts in light of creosote's properties which allow it to leach from wood. Creosote is a known carcinogen which could adversely impact the health of local aquatic resources. Page 4.38 details the placement and operation of the proposed on site sewage treatment plant. We concur that operation of this facility will greatly improve existing septic practices. However, information should be provided as to the level of treatment which will be achieved and how this compares to current Suffolk County Department of Health standards. Thank you for the opportunity to comment on this document. Please contact Mr. Tom Sperry of my Long Island staff at (516) 282-3300 if we may be of further assistance. Sincerely, 7!1ttk/r tLy,/:: Michael T. Chezik ~ Acting Supervisor 2 . . . . S4ILtd. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS & PLANNERS L, I", ",. _ '-.'_: rryK~~i~ "uc"O'AN'1'51988' S41 January 12, 1988 Mr. Bennett Orlowski Chairman Southold Planninq Board Town Hall 53095 c1ain Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, NY 11971 Re: c1arina Bav Club Review Fee Dear Ben: Per my call to Dianne today, this letter will serve as a reminder to request the applicant for an augmentation to the review fee account for this application. An amount equal to the first installment of $2,000 should prove sufficient to complete SEQR on this application given the satisfactory progress reported on last nights meeting. Thank you for your attention. Sincerely, SZEPATOWSKI ASSOCIATES, INC. ~ " \'d~'~l' DaVl J.S. 1 lta Principal Planner DJSE/mt 23 Narragansett Ave, Jamestown, RI 02835 (401) 423-0430 ,.. " ~ . ~ . HENRY P. SMITH, President JOHN M. BREDEMEYER, Vice-Pres. PHII.L1P J. GOUBEAUD AI.BERT KRUPSKI, JR. ELLEN M. LARSEN TELEPHONE (516) 765-1892 BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES TOWN OF SOUfHOLD Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 728 Southold, New York 11971 January 11, 1988 J ~ _I .>;-'d Mr. Peter Wenczel, President Southold Town Baymen's Association, Inc. Post Office Box 523 Greenport, New York 11944 Re: Marina Bay Club, New Suffolk Dear Mr. Wenczel: In response to your letter of November, 12, 1987, regarding the above matter, please be advised that dredging of 100 cu. yds. or more is considered a Significant Project, and would require a D.E.I.S. for same. This office is in receipt of a Draft Environmental Impact Statement for the Marina Bay Club, prepared for the Southold Town Planning Board, which has been disseminated to the Trustees for their review and comments. Should you have any additional questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact this office at the telephone number listed above. Very t uly yours, ~~ Henry P. Smith, President Board of Town Trustees HPS:ip Attachment cc: New Suffolk Civic Association, Inc. Planning Board file f"" .~ ..-' . .- . HENRY P. SMITH, President JOHN M. BREDEMEYER, Vice-Pres. PHILLIP J. GOUBEAUD ALBERT KRUPSKI, JR. ELLEN M. LARSEN TELEPHONt (516) 765-189: BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Town Halt, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 728 Southold, New York 11971 RECE. 'v ED BY SOI!T'lOl" - , " d. n. U 'l~blv"lfr19J~iiL DATE To: Southold Town Planning Board, Bennett Orlowski. Chairman Valerie Scopaz. Town Planner From: Town Trustees. John Bredemeyer, Vice President Re: -. Comments on the Draft Environmental Impact Statement for the Marina Bay Club Date: November 19, 1987 In response to your request for comments on the above matter the Town Trustees offer the following: 1. Is R.O. Unit 6' below bottom really pumping bay water or New Suffolk's Glacial (sole) source? 2. Details on incorporation of marine pump out waste into S. T . P. should be addressed. Pre-treat/truck off site etc. 3. Design of marine pump out left to imagination. Pump out should provide fixed collection system on permanent docks in order to serve every slip. Design of suction and recharge should be presented along with rationale. 4. Question of underwater grants and ownership of bottom will have to be addressed prior to approvals. 5. Pb content of some bottom samples seems elevated - further review of this by Army Corps and N.Y.S. D.E.C. suggested for F.E.I.S. so this issue can be put to rest if it is/is not Significant. 6. Trustees specifically interested in discussion on ability of project to maintain docking space and facilities for traditional fishing and marine commercial Uses per our involved agency request of 6-23-86. 7. 1987 Trustee permits (permits over Trustee "owned" Bay Bottom) currently preclude use of TBT bottom paints on all but aluminum hulls and outdrives. Any expansion or new facilities in the Wetlands (Chapter 97) jurisdiction will likely require this. Project sponsors may wish to comment on this and their willingness to preclude sale of TBT for general hull use until formal rules are imposed by Federal or State Law. This issue has surfaced post scoping session. 8. Lift well construction should include separate drywellfor wash down waste which will be heavy metal laden and should be separated from direct discharge. . . - ~ PETER V. SNYDER JOHN J. HART JOHN J. ROE, III FREDERIC L. ATWOOD J. TIMOTHY SHEA BRUCE T. WALLACE KEVIN A. SEAMAN VANESSA M. SHEEHAN- BENJAMIN L. HERZWE1G PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW 20 CHURCH STREET - BOX 110 PATCHOGUE:, NEW YORK 11772 TEL. 516447-8900 DIRECT DIAL ROBERT S. PELLETREAU (1881-19<43) RICHARD A. SCHOENFELD (t9~1980) ROBERT H. PELLETREAU TERRENCE P. BUCKLEY OF' COUNSEL RUSSELL C. BURCHERI <> DOUGLASJ. LERO$E DENNIS D. O'DOHERTY. JR. 447-8906 -ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA OALSO ADMITTED IN NEW JERSEY December 17, 1987 Town of Southold Town Ha 11 53095 Main Road Mattituck, New York 11952 Attn: Planning Board Director, Bennett Orlowski, Jr. RE: MARINA BAY CLUB, LTD. 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O'DOHERTY, JR. -ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA OAL$O ADMITTED IN NEW JERSEY December 17. 1987 Town of Southold Town Ha 11 53095 Main Road Mattituck. New York 11952 Attn: Planning Board Director. Bennett Orlowski. Jr. RE: MARINA BAY CLUB. LTD. Dear Mr. OrloWSki: This will confirm our meeting with the Planning Board on January 11. 1988. at which Mr. Carr. Henry Raynor. Jean Celender and I will be present to bring you up to date with respect to the work being done with the Marina Bay Club. A detailed Final Environmental Impact Statement is being voluntarily prepared by the applicant. This will be presented to you for your review and comments as soon as it is completed. Thank you for your cooperation and courtesy in this matter. Very truly yours. P~~EAU'tvP:L.L:~EAU Ja-H~ JFH:hmm cc: Ms. Valerie Scopaz Mr. Richard T. Carr Mr. Henry Raynor Ms. Jean Celender RECEIVED BY ~UTHOLD TOVIN PlANNiNG rnARO DEe 2 ~_lgBr__ lU/l6 BY HAND . . REC,:!~/~~",B,; SOUTHGLO lU\,1l r~"ina~A.qD DE.e 1.>- ~o DATE .. P. o. Drawer A Jamesport, NY 11947 December 10, 1987 Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman Southold Town Planning Board Main Road Southold, NY 11971 Dear Mr. Orlowski: RE: Marina Bay Club In review of our meeting at your office yesterday, December 9, 1987, I am confirming the fOllowing: 1) The applicant and his representatives will attend a presubmission conference at the Southold Town Planning Board regular meeting on January 11, 1988. 2) By mutual consent, the applicant agrees to a 45 day extension (until February 8, 1988) for the Town Consultant, Mr. David Emilita, to confirm his study under SEQRA. Thank you for coordinating and setting the above matter. Sincerely, ~~~~~. HER:ml CC: Richard Carr John J. Hart, Esq. J.A.C. Planning Corp. Niego Associates Walter Dunn, P.E. H2M Land Use Company RECEIVED B~ SUm"O\ll~. PETn~ DA1E .JOH~:DtR JOHN J. ROE, HI FREDERIC L. ATWOOD J. TIMOTHY SHEA BRUCE T. WALLACE KEVIN A. SEAMAN VANESSA M. SHEEHAN- BENJAMIN L. HERZWEIG .. . it ~~C'k.t- PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW ZO CHURCH STREET - BOX 110 PATCHOGUE. NEW YORK 1177Z TEL. 516447-8900 DIRECT DIAL ROBERT S. P[LLETREAU (le~H9.3) RICHARD A. SCHOENFELD (1960-19'80) ROBERT H. PELLETREAU TERRENCE p, BUCKLEY 447-8925 OF COUNSEL RUSSf:LL C. BURCHERIO DOUGLAS J. LEROSE DENNIS D. O'DOHERTY. JR. -ALSO ADMITTED IN FL.ORIDA OALSO ADMITTED IN NEW JERSEY December 3. 1987 Mr. Bennett Orlowski. Jr.. Chairman Southold Town Planning Board Southold Town Hall Main Road Southold. N.Y. 11971 RE: MARINA BAY CLUB Dear Mr. Orlowski: This will acknowledge receipt by us of the comment letters received from the Town of Southold. Please be advised that we are in the process of preparing responses to these requests for information and comments. Thank you for your consideration. Very truly yours. & PELLETREAU JJH:mw ccs: William F. Mullen. Jr. G. Ritchie Latham. Jr. Richard G. Ward Kenneth Edwards RiChard T. Carr Jean A. Celender. JAC Planning Corp. 85000180.02 lC/52 ....... .. JAC PLANNING CORP. ,. Excelsior Building. Suite 210. One Overlook Avenue, Great Neck, NY 11021. 516-487-4549 December I, 1987 Diane Schultze Town of Southold Planning Board Town Hall Mail Road, P.O. Box 728 Southold, NY 11971-0728 RECEiVED BY SG~EbT~t~; 1~~OARD Re: Marina Bay Club DEIS Dear Diane: We are in receipt of the two sets of comment letters received by the Town regarding the above referenced project. We assume that these are all the letters received during the comment period since the latest ones are dated received on November 19, 1987, the last day of the comment period. Pursuant to the Planning Board's resolution of November 9, 1987, we are reviewing these comments and will submit shortly the applicant's responses to these comments for inclusion in the Final Environ- mental Impact Statement. If you have any questions or comments, please do not hesi- tate to give me a call. Very truly yours, JAC PLAN~ 2~~ Celender JAC:da cc: D. 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SCHOOL OF HOTEL ADMINISTRATION CORNELL UNIVERSIlY STARER HALL ITHACA, NY 14853-6901 TELEX, WlJI.6713054 RECEIVED BY SOUTHOlD TOWN PLANNING BDARL November 30, 1987 Mr. Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Planning Board Southold Town Officer Main Road Southold, NY 11971 Dear Mr. Orlowski: Mr. Richard Carr, my client, has asked me to write you regarding the proposed Marina Bay Club. I am a professor at the School of Hotel Administration, Cornell University, and was the principal author of the restaurant feasibility study which was incorporated into the Draft Environmental Impact Statement that was submitted to your Board. I based my recommendations on several factors. First, you should know I am a long-term resident of Southold, where I continue to own a home. From 1968 through 1973, I owned and managed The Carriage House Restaurant, Main Road, Southold, on the site now occupied by Joanthony's. Because of my personal and professional interests, I have monitored restaurant activity on The North Fork for several years. I recommended the following seating capacity for the proposed facility in New Suffolk: 150-seat dining room, a 75-seat holding/lounge area and an additional 75-seat outdoor dining area to be used during the peak season (July and August). This is based upon my professional judgment for market demand for a first-class, seafood-oriented facility. It is also consistent with the size of several existing restaurants on The North Fork, e.g., Soundview, Claudios and The Seafood Barge. Please feel free to call upon me if you wish any additional information. Sincerely, rOr~,--C~' Stephen A. Mutkoski, Ph.D. The Villa Banfi Professor of Wine Education and Management SAM:sw xc:Richard T. Carr John J. Hart, Esq. Jean Celender . . . . RECEIVED BY SO&~~ l!N P~~7BOARU DATE STATE OF NEW YORK DEPARTMENT OF STATE ALBANY, N.Y. 12231-0001 GAIL S. SHAFFER SECRETARY OF STATE November 27, 1987 Ms. Valerie Scopaz Town Planner Town of Southold P.O. Box 728 53095 Main Road Southold, NY 11971 Re: S-87-031 Draft Environmental Impact Statement Marina Bay Club, Town of Southold Dear Ms. Scopaz: The Division of Coastal Resources and Waterfront Revitalization has reviewed the above-referenced Draft Environmental Impact Statement and hereby submits comments pursuant to your review under the State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQR). State Coastal Policies (Section 4.6, p. 4.26) This policies. section: section should The following 7, 11, 14, 15, be expanded to address all relevant State coastal policies should be addressed as part of this 20,33,34,35,38, 44. Simif'1cant Coastal Fish and Wildlife Habitat (Section 3.4.2, p. 3.17) Cutchogue Harbor and Wetlands was designated by the Department of State as a significant c~tal fish and wildlife habitat as of March, 1987. The DEIS should ..,ess the impact of the proposed project on the viability of this area as a habitat. Portions of the project which may impact the habitat include: marina dredging and construction, increased boater use, stormwater runoff, outfall or leaching from the sewage treatment facility, reject water outfall from the reverse osmosis (RO) facility, intake for the RO facility, and bulkheading. A narrative and map of the Cutchogue Harbor and Wetlands habitat is included to assist with this assessment. Please note that any activity which may affect a designated habitat must be reViewed regardless of whether that activity is within the habitat boundary. f . . . . Ms. Valerie Scopaz November 27, 1987 Page 2 Water SUDDlY/Reverse Osmosis System (Section 4.7.3, p. 4.31) This section should include additional details on the location and operation of the intake and outfall for this system. This section should also indicate what the composition of the reject water will be including: salinity, temperature, pH, and percent dissolved solids. SeV8Re Treatment/Co..unity Collection System (Section 4.73, p. 4.33) A site plan showing the proposed location of the sewage treatment facility and leaching pools including setbacks from wetlands and other buildings should be included or referenced in this section. Public Access (Section 4.7.2, p. 4.29 and Section 4.6 policies 19, 20) The DEIS should clearly outline the current type and amount of public access at the existing site and the type, amount and location of pUblic access which would be provided under the proposed project. .Surf'ace Runof'f'/Drainue (Section 4.2.3, p. 4.7) This section should indicate the location of leaching pools and overflow outfalls. A filtering system for the overflow should also be discussed. Fish and Wildlif'e (Section 4.4.2, p. 4.10) The DEIS should assess impacts to the designated significant habitat as noted above and should assess impacts to the populations of fish and wildlife using the area. Of particular concern are the nearby shellfisheries in Cutchogue Harbor. Wetlands (Section 4.4.3, p. 4.11) The DEIS indicates only that approximately 500 linear feet of bulkhead will be constructed or replaced. The DEIS should indicate the location and length of new and replacement bulkhead, its location relative to the line of mean high water and the amuont and source of backfill for the bulkhead. The DEIS should also address the impact of these structures on the beach in front of and adjacent to the bulkheads. Kitiat1n.. Measures (Section 6) This section should include possible mitigating measures for loss of valuable shellfish habitat and loss of downdrift beaches through increased erosion. Alternatives This section should include an evaluation of a scaled down version of the proposed project including the construction of phase I only. -- ____m .. . . . . Ms. Valerie Scopaz November 27, 1987 Page 3 Please also include any additional information which would assist in the assessment of consistency of the State coastal policies as outlined above. Should you have any questions, please contact me at (518) 474-3642. Sinc rely" ~/k'~/I-/ Andrew S. Milliken Project Analyst Division of Coastal Resources & Waterfront Revitalization Enclosure ASM:dlb cc: U.S. Army COE/NY District - Steve Mars NYS DEC/Region 1 - Robert Greene Suffolk County - Louise Harrison Town of Southold - Paul Stoutenburgh , r ~ ( . ~~~: I " JAC PLANNING CORP. Excelsior Building, Suite 210, One Overlook Avenue, Great Neck, NY 11021. 516-487-4549 November 3D, 1987 Charles Rauch 62 S. Franklin Valley Stream, Avenue NY 11580 , Re: Marina Bay Club Dear Mr. Rauch: Reference is maqe tc' your request for a copy of the Draft Environmental Impact Statement for the above referenced project. We authoreq the report but are not responsible for its distribution and we are not the appropriate firm to receive comments on its cOntent for input into the record. Therefore, I am taking the liberty of forwarding your request to the Lead Agency, the Town of Southold Planning Board to the attention of Diane Schultze, for further action. A copy of the DEIS is available for public inspection at Town Hall on Main Road in Southold. You can contact Ms. Schultze at 765-1938 to arrange a mutually convenient time to review the document. If r can be of any further assistance, please give me a call. Very truly yours, /~~AC PLANNrN~c71' L_~a .1lklM--- /' ~dn A. Celender JAC :.da cc: D. Carr, Applicant D. SchUltze, Town of Southold . ~.~--.- . . . I 1'7 - '6- lIS' 1 J P. O. Drawer A Jamesport, NY 11947 November 23, 1987 Bennett Orlowski,Jr., Chairman Southold Town Planning Board Main Road Southold, NY 11971 Dear Mr. Orlowski: Enclosed please find grading plans that are of a more detailed nature as requested at the DEIS review meeting for Marina Bay Club. Please note these plans do not indicate the amended site plan that will be received by your board within the next week. These grading plans are to be considered solely for grading, and do not reflect the changes to the site plan as a result of subsequent meetings. s~'nce ely, . ~;< Henry E. aynor, HER:ml Ene. CC: Richard Carr John J. Hart, Esq. J.A.C. Planning Corp. Walter Dunn, P. E. H2M Sol Niego Land Use Company RECE!VED BY. ~ ..-'"] 1''1T-:"..;': - .. ", '.:'-; (;J,;", \,~ I.,. '; f In "",,;" L;;: \1\' "N'6v .~' 3 jS87 __ DATf . . . . , S41' SZEPATOWSKI ASSOCIATES INC. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS S41 MEMORANDUM RECEIVED BY SOUTHOlD TOVoM flA:mlNG BOARD TO: Southold Planning Board DATE SUBJECT: Comments on Marina Bay Club DEIS DATE: November 19, 1987 FROM: Szepatowski Associates, Inc., Ltd. We have reviewed the above mentioned DEIS and have found several inadequacies and/or discrepancies with regard to the project document. We feel these issues as listed below should be addressed before approval can be considered. 1. A developed drainage system of catch basins and dry wells is referred to on page 4.2. The plan should be supplied because it is also stated on page 4.2 that all stormwater runoff will be contained on site1 where on page 4.7 it is stated storms with intensities over 2 inches per hour will overflow directly into the harbor. We would still encourage the use of additional drainage catch basins and/or slopes pitching away from the harbor and/or a berm system to deter any storm flowage from entering the harbor. 2. Several discrepancies in the text were noted and should be further clarified. a. In the executive summary the brine concentration of the reject water leaving the proposed Reverse Osmosis (R.O.) unit will contain a 96% reduction from the original brine concentration, or 39, 469 mg 1 brine. In contrast section 4.2.2 - surface water - says the brine concentration of the reject water will be 42,999 mg 1. b. The executive summary states that the R.O. unit will intake 199 GPM, producing 39 GPM potable water and 79 GPM reject water. This statement is contradicted when on page 2.17 it is stated that the product water will be 79 GPM and will be depressurized and chlorinated. c. The R.O. Floor Plan shows the two storage tanks holding 12,599 gallons each, where the text states that the two storage tanks will be 19,999 gallon each. The later is confirmed in the executive summary. While the former is confirmed on page 4.32. 23 Narragansett Ave. Jamestown. RI 02835 (401) 423-0430 -------------;;r--- . , , . . . 3. Under probable impacts, the impact to shellfish in the area to be dredged was not even mentioned. It was confirmed by several extremely knowledgeable individuals at the public hearing that this area is very rich in scallops. It is our feeling that the area should be opened to shell fishermen before dredging to clean out the area for either human consumption or re-seeding. 4. It is felt that further research is needed to determine if the discharge of the increased brine reject water will indeed have no effect on the bay conditions as the applicant claims. It is a well know fact that different species of shellfish are very sensitive to salinity changes, some as little as 1-2 ppm change. S4lltd. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS & PLANNERS S41 Ir') ..." 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November 19, 1987 Planning Board Town of Southold Main Road Southold, New York 11971 RE: Proposed Marina Bay Club New Suffolk, New York Dear Members of the Board: It is respectfully requested that the Planning Board determine a limitation on the scope of the proposed Marina Bay Club project in New Suffolk to a size that can be realistically supported by this small rural community, a marina use that will enhance its natural resources rather than exploit them. Thank you. Very truly yours, \L_~~ Thomas M. Martin //~~ L/'Jafhe P. Martin t" .... " . . . . ~. TELEPHONE (516) 765-1801 Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 SOUTHOLD TOWN CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL RECEIVED BY SOUTHW dv' f9:':19~7D DATE November 19, 1987 Upon reading the DElS for the Marina Ba~ ClUb tha Conservation Advisory Council have some Questions and concerns that would seem to need further explanation or consideration. 1. Number of boat slips- It seems Evident that marinas do pollute. We are not savinq that the oollution is delIberate but rather an accidental bv-oroduct of oeoole usinG theIr boats. What information is there as to the size of a marIna and the impact of the inadvertent pollution that is ceneratEd? Is thIS prOjEct oversized for its location? Can the scaDe of the prOjEct be reduced to lower the inadvertent Dollution that wlll OCCLlr and still be orofitable for the owner? 15 a smaller number of slies an alternative? Should a Dortlon 0+ the apDlicant~s underwater land be set aside as an envIronmental buffer to town waters? 2. Runoff- I n terms of mi taoati no m.2asures. + i rst. if mOt-e than t~o inches of rain Der hour fall. the road. oarklna lots. roof and other runoff is goinG to 00 dlrectly into the bay. how often de)"e.::; thi s haDPen? Is tll is procedure I eoal and enviromentally acceotable? Road runoff is a ma~or contributor of oollution to our creeks and bays. Can this excess runoff be greatly reduced or eliminated? Secondly. is there OOlno to be sufficient protection and safeguards from the rain rLl~off of the dredged spoil as it is beinG dumoed. stored and soread durino construction? Afe the concentrations of the heavv metals of the dredged materials accEPtable? Will storm water runoff be contained on the DrODerty during aeneral construction? 3. Houseboats???- If boats of considerable SIze are beIno permanent"l y berthed in these sl i CoS. do thesl? bDats t.j-.en essentially become waterfront condominiums 1n Which oeoD!e live for the entire summer? Has this enviromental issLle been addressed? Can it be leoallv Qrevented and more imoortantlv enforced? .... ~....... . . . . ~. 4.. Boundar1' of the docks- Are the [:)oi sons that are 001 no t.D be used to protect the docks. floats and sol ash boaras from marlne growth and root going t.o effect town bay bottom e\nd town ~".l.:..qters? What is the data on the leachino of these DOlsons~ What IS the life of these leached 001 sons? Should a Dortion 0+ the apolicant's underwater land be set aside as an envlromental 1:Ioundary'J buffer to town waters? 5. Salinity effect of the reverse osmosis svstem- WIll the more dense and more saline wastewater form a laver on the bottom? Could_ higher salinity pockets be est.ablisJ")Ed in bot.t.om holes? What does the outfall oatterns look like 1n resoect to the surrounding Shallower waters. currents and tldes"? Very mlnor changes in salinity have been shown to have ma~or e++ects on larva of shellfish. has this been cons1derec? 6. Fuel tanks - Fuel tanks always present a danger of leakage. Has consideration been made regarding the installation of double- walled tanks with a leakage detection? . . . . ~ " , , ~L~o~1( RD. 1'0<,-.11 '''"c~o..o l ...--.... o.~:.., ~ '._"J. " ,":1:--5! ~_~t~H Z U"' ;' '; ~." ~".,' ~-I~.,~ . ~ ~ ~'" 9'" J ':;~":G ;:o;~~i': L ;;:~(:,' j l R~~ .:. 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J. r_,.........'_~ ...~..,,'.~...,,!_.. "'_..~..l__ -~.c-~<>-~------i--- ........"_l..'_ leI/end c.~."." '''''~' ._D.......l... _D".....l_ .u..~ ""'_.Il...",,<_ :,:...,:".K"'..__@__ P-.I'" n "'""..".-........ Ill) s.w.'~_l..... ""..D_,_ ''', " ". "AI" ".", --..- ___l._ -_.p.- - - ~. -- V'''...l,_ -l~ ----- ,.........",,- .......0...".'... P.'""~,,,,_ __,,"u_ HARBOR $.. "'" m ~ ~^" '"'II I \ @ COUNTY OF SUFFOLK - "::" Real Property Tax Service Agency CO"nt~ Ceo!.' Rive,heod, l. r,. N... 'I'o,~ '0'0""" ~9UTHQLD !~U'G~ "" DI".K'''''' 1000 """........".. ..' ;~- ? ~ -,,"- J \[CfIOM~___ 117 ~. ,iQiiUf'l' ".;." . . . HENRY P. SMITH, President JOHN M. BREDEMEYER, Vice-Pres. PHILLIP J. GOUBEAUD ALBERT KRUPSKI, JR. ELLEN M. LARSEN TELEPHONE (516) 765-1892 BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 728 Southold, New York 11971 RE(E,Vf:D BY SOUTllDlIlJ~l'dl'I.hIi,.iilG BGAliL NUV 9 1987 DATE To: Southold Town Planning Board, Bennett Orlowski, Chairman Valerie Scopaz. Town Planner From: Town Trustees. John Bredemeyer, Vice President Re: Comments on the Draft Environmental Impact Statement for the Marina Bay Club Date: November 19. 1987 In response to your request for comments on the above matter the Town Trustees offer the following: 1. Is R.O. Unit 6' below bottom really pumping bay water or New Suffolk's Glacial (sole) source? 2. Details on incorporation of marine pump out waste into S.T.P. should be addressed. Pre-treat / truck off site etc. 3. Design of marine pump out left to imagination. Pump out should provide fixed collection system on permanent docks in order to serve every slip. Design of suction and recharge should be presented along with rationale. 4. Question of underwater grants and ownership of bottom will have to be addressed prior to approvals. 5. Pb content of some bottom samples seems elevated - further review of this by Army Corps and N.Y.S. D.E.C. suggested for F.E.LS. so this issue can be put to rest if it is/is not Significant. 6. Trustees specifically interested in discussion on ability of project to maintain docking space and facilities for traditional fishing and marine commercial uses per our involved agency request of 6-23-86. 7. 1987 Trustee permits (permits over Trustee "owned" Bay Bottom) currently preclude use of TBT bottom paints on all but aluminum hulls and outdrives. Any expansion or new facilities in the Wetlands (Chapter 97) jurisdiction will likely require this. Project sponsors may wish to comment on this and their willingness to preclude sale of TBT for general hull use until formal rules are imposed by Federal or State Law. This issue has surfaced post scoping session. 8. Lift well construction should include separate dryw ell for wash down waste which will be heavy metal laden and should be separated from direct discharge. .' .... . CO~TY OF SUFFOL. , e Michael A. LeGrande SUFFOLK COUNTY EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES DAVID HARRIS. M,D.. M.P,H. COMMISSIONER November 19,1987 Mr. Bennett Orlowski, Chairman Southold Town Planning Board Southold Town Hall 53075 Main Road Southold, New York 11971 RE: Marina Bay Club, Draft Environmental Impact Statement (DE IS) S. C. 1. M.: #1000-117-8-18 RECEIVED BY SOUTHGlO TU'i,:~ I i.h;~liING BOARD NOV 19 1981 DATE Dear Mr. Orlowski: The Suffolk County Department of Health Services (SCDHS) above-referenced DEIS and find the document substantially therefore, inappropriate for the purposes of decision making. by the lack of information pertaining to the sanitary disposal requirements, dredging impacts, and stormwater runoff controls. has reviewed the incomplete and, We are concerned and water supply The specific concerns and recommendations of our department regarding the requirements of the Suffolk County Sanitary Code (SCSC) and our environmental review of the proposed action are provided below. I. Sanitary Code An application for construction for sewage disposal facilities and water supply for thi s proposed project has not been submitted to our department. Complete technical comment regarding the sewage disposal facilities and water supply would require that an application be submitted to our department that includes a site plan, specifications and design details for both the sewage treatment plant (STP) and reverse osmosis (RO) system, and the required site-specific information (i.e. depth to water, soil borings, etc.) needed to evaluate the suitability of the site for the project. The RO system providing a maximum flow of 57,600 gpd of potable water and the 30-foot horizontal well screen below the bay bottom are both unique designs for a water supp ly f ac i 1 ity wi thi n Suffo 1 k County. Without more detai 1 ed information, it is difficult to make preliminary comment on the feasibility of the system. The applicant will have to fully demonstrate to our department the capabi 1 ity of the system to meet our construction standards and water qual ity standards prior to any approval. COUNTY CENTER RIVERHEAO. N.Y. '1901 , .... . . . . Letter to Mr. Bennett Orlowski November 19, 1987 Page 2 The STP, as proposed with denitrification, will have to be approved by our department and New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (NYSDEC). An important consideration will be siting t:,e STP and leaching pools on the property, while, at the same time, maintaining an adequate distance from the water supp ly hori zonta 1 well screen. Another cons i derat ion regardi ng the STP wi 11 be maintaining a two-foot separation between the bottom of the leaching pools and the water table, which is high in this area. This project is constrained by the limited space for installing the STP and 1 eachi ng poo 1 s and by the potent i a 1 for di scharge from the STP to reach the intake area where the horizontal well screen is located. The construction of a 57,600 gpd RO system and a 30-foot horizonal well screen wi 11 require close scrut i ny by our department and demonstrab 1 e resu lts of proper operat ions and water quality before approval is given. Alternative water supply systems should be addressed in the DEIS. One alternative should be the installation of a conventional well, at an adequate distance below the water table, to be used in conjunction with the RO system. We recommend that the DEIS be deemed incomplete unti 1 approvable sewage disposal and water supply facility designs have been accepted by our department. No final approvals for sewage disposal facilities and water supply shall be granted by our department until the SEQRA process is completed, however. The Health Department's primary regulatory concern pertaining to develop- ment is that the applicant comply with the requirements of the Suffolk County Sanitary Code, especially Articles V and VI, and relevant construction standards for water supply and sanitary sewage disposal. At the time of application, we begin complete review for compliance. Full consideration in placement of water supply wells and disposal systems is given to State and Town wetland require- ments. The Health Department maintains jurisdiction over final location of disposal and well systems. The applicant should not undertake to construct any such systems without Health Department approval. Other portions of the Suffolk County Sanitary Code, e.g. Articles VII and XII, also apply to commercial deve 1 opment. II. Natural and Cultural Resources A. PROBABLE IMPACTS OF THE PROPOSED ACTION 1. Surface Water/Wetlands a. Dredging The document's discussion of potential impacts to surface waters (p.4.7) is incomplete. The discussion should address potential project-related water quality impacts to marine waters. Submissions of the appropriate State and federal applications for dredging and bulkhead construction do not exempt the applicant from addressing these areas fully in the DEIS. . .I - . . . . Letter to Mr. Bennett Orlowski November 19, 1987 Page 3 The document shou 1 d exp 1 ai n the proposed method and t imetab 1 e for all dredging and discuss potential surface water impacts resulting from the reintroduction of bottom sediments into the water column during the dredging operation. The document should also provide details of the proposed method of upland deposition and drainage of dredge spoil, including details of any proposed spoil dikes or impoundment areas, and an assessment of potential surface water impacts associated overland flow of spoil drainage of sediments into the harbor. Much of the data contained in Appendix II of the DEIS should be incorpo- rated into a narrative discussion which addresses the above-stated concerns. We recommend all dredging operations take place from October through March to reduce potential for unnatural, nutrient-induced, algal blooms, and to avoid potential disturbance to colonial waterbirds, which are known to nest and forage east of the site, in the vicinity of Cutchogue Harbor and Nassau Point. b. Pumpout Facilities We believe the proposed pumpout faci 1 i ties can provi de long-term water quality benefits to the harbor if used effectively. We therefore, encourage adopt i on of the recommend at i on of the Southo 1 d Town Trustees to requi re dock leases to have discharge/suction fittings compatible with the proposed pumpout station, thereby encouraging use of the pumpout facility. 2. Surface Runoff and Drainage a. Fi 11 Removal The document should identify the proposed deposition site of the 5,300 cubic yards of fill expected to be removed from the subject property. Because the applicant plans to deposit excavated fill outside the Town of Southold, we believe the applicant should contact the Town of Riverhead regarding this matter and demonstrate any necessary approvals that may be required prior to under- taking this action. b.. Grading and Drainage The grading and drainage plans and discussion DEIS are insufficient for technical evaluation. prepare a detailed assessment of the site's surface control plans that include the following: 1. Delineation of existing and proposed grades 2. Delineation of drainage area 3. Complete drainage calculations 4. Leaching pool and overflow system design specifications 5. Boundary delineation of all impervious and pervious surfaces 6. Test hole data, indicating depth to groundwater provided (Figure 12) in the We recommend the app 1 i cant runoff, and prepare drainage . " .. . . . . Letter to Mr. Bennett Orlowski November 19, 1987 P age 4 3. Visual and Cultural Resources The document's presentation of the site's historic and cultural signifi- cance is useful and prepared well. Because the site represents a locally significant historic resource in the Village of New Suffolk, we hope site reconstruction will incorporate architectural and other recommendations of local historians and village residents to achieve a design and size commensurate with the goals and objections of the community. B. ALTERNATIVES The document's presentation of alternatives provides detail sufficient for comparative assessment and was helpful to our review. Notwithstanding our department's reservat ions about the app 1 i cant's proposed wastewater and water supply systems, we believe a modified project design similar to Alternative C provides an opportunity to mitigate unavoidable impacts to a greater extent than the applicant's desired plan or the other alternatives presented. Such a design should only be considered, however, if the applicant agrees to maximize pervious surfaces, incorporate the use of floating dock platforms to the greatest extent practicable, and construct a pumpout facility. In addition, we recommend that the applicant provide a public fishing area similar to that proposed for the desired action, and incorporate a detailed 1 andscapi ng plan whi ch uses nat i ve vegetat ion. These mi t i gat i on measures wi 11 help reduce the magnitude of project-related impacts to visual, human, and wildlife resources. C. SUMMARY We fi nd the DE I S for the proposed act i on i ncomp 1 ete for the purpose of revi ew and encourage the Town to request i nformat i on from the app 1 i cant that responds to the above-stated concerns of our department. We appreciate the opportunity to review this project, and trust our concerns will be appropriately addressed. Should you have any questions, please feel free to contact the Office of Ecology at your convenience. .~~~ Louise W. Harrison Supervisor, Bureau of Environmental Management Office of Ecology LWH/amf cc: Vito Minei, P.E. Steve Costa, P.E. Robert Greene, NYSDEC Charles Hamilton, NYSDEC Thomas Hart, NYSDOT SOU~dOLD TOwN PLANNING BOARD TO'IIN HALL MAIN ROAD SOUTHOLD,NEW YORK 11971 RECB.. cD BY SOUTHOlD 10'llN HlINiilNG BOARD NOV 19 1987 DATE RE: APPLICATION OF MARINA BAY CLUB(HIGHAHD T. CARR) NEW SUFFOLK, NEW YOHK CHAIRMAN ORLOWSKI AND M~1BERS OF THE BOAHD : AS HESIDEN~S OF OAK ROAD,NEW SUFFOLK, ~rr HUSBAND, TODD W. 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N.Y. 11971 (516) 765-1938 MEMORANDUM TO: Southold Town Planning Board Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Chairman FROM: Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner RE: Draft Environmental Impact Statement for Marina Bay Club, New Suffolk DATE: November 18, 1987 The following observations are based on two field inspections, a reading of the Draft Environmental Impact Statement, a reading of all the correspondence that has been received as of this date and a review of the minutes of the November 9th hearing on this proposal. Statements were made at this hearing to the effect that the developer has agreed to make certain changes in the proposal, as a result of community pressure. However, my comments must address the DEIS as it was written and submitted for review. The Draft Environmental Impact Statement should be revised so as to address the following items. The items are addressed as they appear or should appear, in the Executive Summary. 1. Although the actual building heights will not exceed 28 feet; they will appear to be higher than the surrounding buildings because they will be placed on about 4 to 5 feet of fill. The document does not state how the parking area will be graded and landscaped to ameliorate the 3 to 5 or 6 foot difference in site elevation between .the subject property and the neighboring properties including First Street. A site. grading and road profile should be included with the document. The profile analysis should show the north, south, east and west elevations. 2. The document is neither consistent nor clear in its description of the proposed seating capacity of the restaurant. Page 2.7 indicates that there will bea private dining room for twenty people. There is no mention of this room on page 1.1. Also, neither page indicates the seating capacity of the proposed outdoor seating area.' , " . ' . . . . 3. The parking calculations should include employee parking requirements when the site is operating at capacity (e.g. mid-summer weekend, transient slips full, meeting rooms and restaurant booked for a conferenCe or mid-day reception). Handicapped parking should also be shown on the site plan. 4. An analysis of the soils tests that were taken of the marina bottom (Appendix B) should be done and placed in the body of the document. Reference should be made to the significance of the findings, particularly with regard to heavy metals and pesticide residues. If significant quantities of toxic substances exist, the document should address the following concerns: a. How will the dispersion of toxic materials in the water be mitigated during the dredging opera- tion? b. Should the "contaminated" portion of the dredge spoil be used for fill or should it be disposed of in a more environmentally acceptable manner? 5. The past use of this site as a marina and submarine base may be the causative factor in the presence of heavy metals on the marina bottom. The proposed expansion of the marina rurther out into the bay raises the question of whether the degradation process will be repeated. Mitigative measures to help prevent such degradation should be discussed. 6. Removal of 3300 cubic yards of topsoil and loam will re- quire a mining permit from the Town Board. What provisions will be made to provide adequate topsoil for landscaping? 7. The document and the site plan should state what propor- tion of the 500 feet of bulkheading will be new and which portion will .be replacement. The site plan should also show the existing shoreline as well as the proposed bulk- heading line. The present and proposed elevations of the beach area at the southerly part of the project should also be shown. 8. The location of the sewage pumpout station is shown next to the fueling dock. The document does not address how this system will work. Will it be connected directly with the sewage treatment plant? Could another pumpout station be placed near the permanent slips to encourage its use by those boat owners who tend to be stationery or use the boat as a weekend home? 9. The document should address the hazards associated with placing two 10,000 gallon fuel storage tanks underground, particularly ground that is likely to be saturated with water. The alternative of placing the tanks above-ground and away from the boat slips should be discussed. " f ' , . . . . 10. The document should also discuss how accidental fuel spills at the fueling dock, the fuel tanks and within the boat storage building will be contained. 11. The support utility building does not observe the 500' buffer required by New York State, as mentioned on page 4.38. The type of construction should be noted. (Type 5 construction may not exceed one story in height.) 12. The document should discuss the pros and cons of the two types of sewage treatment plants that could be in- stalled. Percolation tests and soil borings should be taken on the site to determine whether the ground will be able to handle the projected load of approximately 17,000 gallons per day throughout the year, in addition to any 6" rainfall runoff that may drain into the projected 39 leaching pools. Provide drainage calculations. 13. The boat storage building may not house the shower, laundry, and Reverse Osmosis water treatment plant under Type 5 construction requirements. If another type of construc- tion is being proposed, the document should state this. 14. The site plan shows parking spaces in the path the travel- lift must traverse from the slip to the boat storage build- ing. This is not acceptable site design. 15. The leaching pool system is designed to handle 2"" rainfall.' It should be designed to handle a 6" rainfall. Under no circumstances should stormwater overflow be allowed to drain into the Bay except through a filtration system de- signed to prevent the introduction of particulate matter into Bay waters. 16. The document should incorporate into the discussion on the reverse osmosis water treatment system the following information: a. Salinity, pH, and general composition of the water pumped from the well. b. Salinity, pH, and general composition of the reject water at the point of discharge into the Bay. The temperature of this reject water should also be stated. c. Probable impacts of the introduction of reject water on the marine ecosystem surrounding the outfall pipe should be discussed. The discussion should include the effects of temperature differences and force of dis- charge at o~tfall pipe, as well as salinity differences. d. Explanation of why well site was chosen. ~ , . . . . . . 17. The proposed configuration of the marina entrance will increase boat traffic in the area between Schoolhouse Creek and Captain Marty's fishing station. The naviga- tional hazards that may result should be addressed in the document. 18. The document states that the southerly beach line needs to be stabilized, but provides no evidence in support of this. will bulkheading this beach have any negative impacts on the stability of the remainder of the shoreline to the south and west? 19. The discussion of the sewage treatment facility should include the following information: a. Definition of Class GA groundwaters as per New York State. b. Definition of difference between Total Dissolved Solids and suspended solids effluent concentration. 20. The question of ownership of the underwater land should be discussed in depth. The site plan does not include a complete metes and bounds (survey) description of the property and the underwater land. The terms of the New York State grant should be presented in the body of the document. It should be noted that the Suffolk County Tax Maps show the underwater lands adjacent to this project as being in the ownership of Southold Town. The scale of this project must be given careful considera- tion. There are two factors that must be addressed: the size of the proposed restaurant/conference facility and the size of the marina. Both have their separate impacts on theLland and t.he water. The restaurant's size is the determinant of the volume of salt water that will need to be treated, the volume of sewage that will need to be treated and disposed of, and the number of parking spaces that will be required. The storage facility and the perman- ent slips in the marina are lesser determinants of those items. The marina and its operation will detenmine the degree of environmental impacts on the bay bottom and ecosystem. It is suggested that the final environmental impact state- ment address a scaled down version of this proposal, one that pro- vides for more landscaping, better interior site design, and more compatible architecture. ~ Valerie ~ Town Planner. .. .. ~ ~~tJt~~M#- r- G- ~'J ESTABLISHED 1842 FORMERLY GOLDSMITH & TUTHILL BOAT YARD Foot of Main Street. P.O. Box 2BB . New Suffolk. New York 11956 . Telephone (516) 734-6060 Mr. Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Plani,ng Board Southo1d Town Offices Main Road Southo1d, N.Y. 11971 Dear Mr. Orlowski: After speaking to you and the Planing Board on Nov. 9th, with est- imates of the facilities of the marinas in the area, I have spoken with each to find the actual number of docking slips they have. This is an accounting of these Peconic Bay marinas: RECE~VED BY S~'Ul'I'" 'c', ' , ' " no!nD u t.l.;UJ 1t..llni iI,., ,,'hil,J ~JJ,i\ ~-ms1-- Peconic River Yacht Basin ............................. 130 Larry's Lighthouse Marina ............................. 170 Larry's Town Marina at So. Jamesport .................. 120 Great Peoonic Bay Marina ..............................250 strong's Marineland ................................... 128 Corrigans .1........................................... 100 Boatmans Harbor ....................................... 120 Port of Egypt (slips) ................................. 134 Port o~ Egypt (dry storage) ........................... 140 Brewers (formerly Pierce Yacht Basin) ................. 90 Stirling Harbor .......................~............... 185 1-;;07 This gives an average of 156.7 boats per marina, and brings the Marina Bay Club in below the standard size. It is favorable espec~ ia1ly since the Marina Bay Club will be built in open bay waters, not on a river, creek or canal. Regarding traffic, this is one of the few marinas that have two exits leading in different directions. Main street to New Suffolk Avenue and First Street to Orchard and then north to Cutchogue. Most of the others have only one. Ta1kinawith Mr. Tom Corwin, Director of Marketing and Sales for the pott of Egypt I find and I ~uote "The national average for vehicles parked in a marina is ~ per boat". Tom is a lover of statistics and has kept count at Port of Egypt. "On the busiest day of the year, last year, we had 93 cars parked here". That is about one car for every three boats, or 1/3rd of a car per boat. Sincerely, Wll~~ YACHT BROKERAGE CHARTER AGENT APPRAISALS DELIVERIES INSTRUCTION . . . MCEIVED BY SOUB TOWN PlANNING 80ARll NOV-19 198T \ L-, DATE ~. .~....... NEW SUFFOLK CIVIC ASSOCIATION INC. I I 9 ~ 6 p C; S jUt. I- 1 C F n 0 X {, 4 ~ N j \\ S U F f 0 L K, N. Y. November la, 1987 Planniag Board Town of Southold Southold, N.Y. 11971 Re: Marina Bay Club DEIS New Suffolk, N.Y. GenUepersons: We submit herewith, the comments and remarks prepared by Patrick Callahan, P.!., who is experienced in the field, and who is a aember of the Coaita. of New Suffolk residents which has been mOllitoriag this propo.ed project. The CoanUe. and the New Suffolk Civic Association, Inc. a.aociat. th....lv.. with these coaent. and reaarks. The Coaita. a. a whole would like to _pha.iIle ita pr.1'- ereDce (coaent 5) for aodifyiag the depth of the leachiag pool., increa.- iag their nUllber to cOllpenaate for the :reduced depth, a. required, and di.tributiag nece.sitated increa.e. in height, IF ANY, over the entire aite to the extent po.sible, th.reby minimiziag the impact, and distrib- uting it a. .tably a. po.sible. We would also like to emphasize (comment 1) the position you haVIt already taken in your letter dated January 5, 1987 to Mr. Raynor, which asks that thlt project take into consideration in the site plan pro- posal, what underwater property is not conveyed, implying, if not COD- cluding, that underwatltr lands outside of valid grant. sre of1' limite. Our ..jor concltrn with respect to the site plan propo.al, as expre.sed at the public hltaring and with the plan's proponent. direct- ly, has to do with the .ize of the project and the traffic, parking and other con.equence. of siz., We favor reasonable effort. to minimise the .ize of this project. Respectfully submitted, The New Suffolk Civic As.ociation, Inc. b, ~.f?:!:::.. Oba'N~ New Suffolk Committee Joseph Fenton Patrick Callahan Jack Fisher Laura Avent Willie FiBher Linda Fletcher ... ~ . . . . . CO~~4ENTS AND REMARKS ON THE JULY 1987 DEIS PREPARED IN CONNECTION WITH PROPOSED MARINA BAY CLUB DEVELOPMENT NEW SUFFOLK - LONG ISLAND - N.Y. 1) THE DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT AS SUBMITTED IS NOT REFLECTIVE OF THE SCOPE OF THE INTENDED ACTION BY THE APPLICANT WHICH APPARENTLY INCLUDES EXPANDING THE DOCKING FACILITIES BEYOND THE LIMITS OF UNDERWATER LANDS EITHER PREVIOUSLY USED FOR MARINE PURPOSES ADJACENT TO THE UPLAND PROPERTY OR WITHIN THE BOUNDARY OF THE "1838 GRANT". AS A RESULT IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT EITHER: a) THE PROCESS BE SUSPENDED BY MUTUAL CONSENT OF THE APPLICANT AND THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD AND THE APPLICANT BE GIVEN SUFFICIENT TIME TO REVISE THE DEIS TO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL REFERENCE AND SUPPORT FOR THE FULL PROPOSED ACTION; OR, b) THE PROCESS CONTINUE WITH AN AMMENDMENT TO THE DEIS TO CLARIFY THAT THE DEIS EXCLUDES THE AFORESAID EXPANSION AREA BEYOND THE ROUGHLY 6 ACRE SITE EITHER FULLY OR PARTIALLY WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE APPLICANT OR THE NOW OR FORMER OWNER, MARINE ASSOCIATES, INC. REMARKS: The above comment is made recognlzlng the excellent cooperation between the Applicant and the people of New Suffolk on the matter of restoring to full operation an expanded marina with an upgraded restaurant and other associated facilities at the North Fork Ship~ard site. The bulk of the upland development issues are addressable in some form however, since the project was initiated there has been a substantial increase in the size of the marina. The current proposed plan as depicted on Figure 4 Phase I and II drawings indicate an overall develop- ment of roughly 7.5 to 8 acres. Of particular concern is the approximately 150' x 400' extension to the east beyond the easterly boundary of the N.Y.S. Grant. We do understand that less than half of the N.Y.S. Grant area has been utilized by the upland owner but generally support its full utilization recognizing the economic constraints of a lesser development. Extending to the east however is not clearly within the rights of the upland owner notwithstanding the host of regulatory . , . . -2- . . approvals attendant to the process. A COE' or DEC permit, a CZM determination etc. does not in anyway convey property rights to the Applicant. To assist in providing some clarity on the use of the under- water lands adjacent to the site we are enclosing a copy of a letter dated January 5, 1987 from the Southold Town Planning Board on the matter with attachments. Further, we would like to see the DEIS focus on the issue of loss of productive bay bottom should the marina be granted approval to extend to the limits proposed. This point was brought to the attention of the Planning Board at the November 9, 1987 Hearing by Mr. Steve Latson, Secretary, Bay- men's Association. If it is intended to modify the DEIS to take into account the full site, we suggest that throughout the DEIS the appropriate reference be made to the incremental increase in size, process for approval and related environmental issues as noted above. 2) THE PROPOSED RO SYSTEM FOR SUPPLYING WATER WILL REPRESENT A SUBSTANTIAL INITIAL INVESTMENT AND PROBABLY HIGH OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE COSTS. IT IS SUGGESTED THAT PRIOR CORRESPOND- ENCE FROM THE SUFFOLK COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES IN CONNECTION WITH THE ORIGINAL PROPOSED CONDO DEVELOPMENT BE EXAMINED. IN PARTICULAR, IT WOULD APPEAR THAT AN OFF-SITE SOURCE OF POTABLE WATER SHOULD BE CONSIDERED WHICH IN FACT COULD ALSO SERVE OTHER RESIDENTS AND COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE VICINITY WHO HAVE SUB-STANDARD WATER SUPPLY. REMARKS: The above comment was discussed with the Applicant and also discussed in general with no commitment at the recent New Suffolk Civic Association meeting. It appears that an unusual opportunity may exist for both the Applicant and the community should an adequate source of water be located and provision be made to include residents and others in the vicinity in a distribution system. One such possible source . . - J- . . could be the open field adjacent to the School House. If in fact it were found feasible and the economics were favorable as a condition to such use, the lands upon which a well(s) are installed should remain under the Town's jurisdiction to insure the continued availability of the water supply and as a common recreation area for the community. We suggest the the SCDHS, DEC and Town of Southold provide assistance and advice to the Applicant on the feasibility of this suggestion. Approval or disapproval of any off-site source of water would of course, have to be treated on its own merit and as such should not impact on the procedure for accepting the DEIS. 3) THE PROXIMITY OF THE PROPOSED UTILITY BUILDING HOUSING THE PACKAGED TREATMENT PLANT TO nEIGHBORING RESIDENTIAL AND COMr4ERCIAL PROPERTIES COULD HAVE LONG TERM NEGATIVE IMPACT. THE PROBABLE WIDE VARIATIONS IN WASTE STREAM FLOW CAN HAVE MAJOR EFFECTS ON PLANT OPERATION CAUSING AN INCREASE IN ODORS AND OPERATIONAL IMBALANCE. ALTERNATIVE LOCATIONS SHOULD BE EXPLORED. REMARKS, The above comment was discussed with the Applicant and strong s.upport was voiced at the recent New Suffolk Civic Association meeting for relocating the treatment plant to within the site. The Applicant has expressed an understanding for our concern and has directed his professional staff to seek an alternate location on site in the vicinity of the Boat Storage Shed. It is noted that some earlier plans called for the sewage treatment plant to be located nearby the Post Office. 4) THE LEACHING POOLS ARE A COMMON ELEMENT OF THE PROPOSED WASTEWATER SYSTEMS UTILIZING PACKAGE TREATMENT PLANT. WE STRESS THAT THE SITE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS BE EXPLORED IN SUFFICIENT DETAIL TO ASSURE THE LEACHING SYSTEM CAN FUNCTION ADEQUATELY. OF CONCERN IS a) HIGH WATER TABLE, b) TIDAL INFLUENCE, c) PRE-EXISTING MEADOW MAT, d) PRIOR LAND FILL, AND e) GRADE. ASSUMING ADEQUATE LEACHING POOL CAPACITY, WE RECOM- MEND CONSIDERATION BE GIVEN TO SEPARATING THE WASTE STREAM SO THAT SCDHS STANDARDS FOR CONVENTIONAL OR MODIFIED IN-GROUND SYSTEMS COULD BE SATISFIED. " . . . . -4- REMARKS: Again this recommendation was discussed with the Applicant and it was indicated that the criteria for determining the typ~ of waste treatment took into acco~nt the total waste stream, the area of the property and overall site conditions such as being within a flood zone. We do however, recommend that the Applicant explore with the SCDHS what options may be available given their vast experience in dealing with similar developments in the County. 5) THE DEIS IS NOT ENTIRELY CLEAR ON THE EXTENT OF GRADING AND ALTERATION TO THE SITE ELEVATIONS. PORTIONS OF THE DEIS WOULD APPEAR TO INDICATE ONLY MINOR CHANGES ARE PROPOSED, HOWEVER, EXAMINATION OF A FULL SCALE GRADING PLAN WOULD INDICATE THE SITE IS TO BE RAISED THREE OR FOUR FEET. WE RECOMMEND THAT THE EXISTING SITE GRADE BE ~~INTAINED TO THE MAXIMUM PRACTICAL EXTENT. REMARKS. Raising the site would have a large visual impact. We under- stand that the Applicant has made an effort to minimize the negative impact by proposing to create a landscaped slope rather than building retaining walls. We realize that the grading requirement as proposed by the designers relates to the probable need to provide sufficient effective leaching area above the groundwater table. 6) THERE IS NO SINGLE UNIVERSALLY ACCEPTED METHOD OF DEALING WITH MANY OF THE "QUALITY OF LIFE" IMPACTS OF ANY DEVELOPMENT. IN SOME MEASURE NEW SUFFOLK COULD BE SAID TO HAVE EXTREMELY LOW THRESHOLD LEVELS WHICH WOULD TO ITS INHABITANTS, SIGNAL A PERCEPTION OF POLLUTION AND DETERIORATION. WE STRESS THAT THE APPLICANT IN DIRECTING HIS PROFESSIONALS IN THE DEVELOP- MENT OF PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS PARTICULARLY FOR THE ELEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH NOISE, LIGHT AND TRAFFIC BE MINDFUL OF THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF EACH ACTION. , . . . . -5- REMARKS: Given that New Suffolk today has virtually no measurable noise or identifiable sourcel no major contributor to light pollution nor any significant traffic, any change is regarded as being a negative impact. Through earlier discussion with the Applicant, we believe our suggestions to mitigate noise pro- ducing AC systems, air handling units, refrigeration motors etc. will be done in the course of the design. In the course of construction the pile driving operation and heavy marine work is estimated to take about 16 months to complete. We recommend that an effort be directed to complete the bulk of this work in late fall-early spring to minimize the noise exposure to the pile driving operation. Also we understand low level lighting rather than flood light- ing will be called for. This is an important measure not alone from our side of the Harbor but also for people living along the westerly shore of Nassau Point. So far as traffic is concerned it can hardly be said that a fourfold increase is not significant. We ask that the design provide for lessening the concentration of the traffic and the operation and schedul- ing of the use of the facilities seek to lower the impact of coincident activities. 7) THE IMMEDIATE IMPACT OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL BE FELT BY THOSE FAMILIES AND COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENTS ALONG FIRST STREET AND MAIN STREET. THE OVERALL NATURE OF THE DEVELOPMENT SHOULD ATTEMPT TO RECOGNIZE THIS IMPACT AND MITIGATE AGAINST ITS POSSIBLE NEGATIVE I~WLICATIONS. REMARKS, Specific recommendations include consideration to moving the proposed location of the Boat Storage Shed further within the property to reduce its visual impact on First Street. Also the overall level of development and aesthetic treatment should take into account that a decrease in the value and investment of adjacent and nearby property owners should not be a second- ary effect of the development. We are pleased to note the Applicant's acceptance of our suggestion to have a representa- tive committee of New Suffolk people contribute suggestions for maintaining the historic significance of the site. ;. . . . . ffi!VOR ~~WUl~T!~ ~"~~1 ~T':ltnQS A'tl C13^i3:>3~ 18 '.Y.ab.r, 1987 &ex 224- ...w Sutt.lll:, .. Y. n 9S6 Plarm1q Beard 'l'own .t Soutlaolel Town Hall S.utbolcl, '.Y. 11971 Gentle..ns 'l'kl. l.tter i. ..ant to ..obor.to, aDd -.pllt7 ~ roaarll:a betore tbe Bearcl .t tbe pubUo bearlna t.. "70 .So on. tho ..ttor ot tbe prop...d el.Yel.~nt .t tbe old 'orth PWrll: Ship70rcl aero in 'ow sutt.a. Pir.t, ancl por"'p. .o.t lap.rtant, I aDd g othor. bolleye that t.. pro,.... aarlna-ro.t.vant i. jut t.. lar 0 .1' ..w suttelJr. Tho ..yeloper biaa.l1' ....rt. tllat Ile .xpeeta oyer ~oo i..H... i. trattle (PP. 1.9-10), anel tbat in an area tlult 11 . 0 ,....-1&0. One ot tho prepo... .xlta .tro. tile clOYd.....' 11 010.. to tile alr....7-bu.J' pubU.. launotl1ns 1'''' a. ..11 .. t. t.. parll:1q lot ....t tor ar.. 'rol1el..t. .a. .iata t. u. t.. publlo be.ota. hrta1n1J' tllat 11 ..lI:iq t.r bis-.itJ' lI'iell..lI:. AD( ot o.v.., aIlJ' .y.rtlow floe. t.. dOY.lop.r'. own parklq 1'&0111U.. w01l1d S. tir.t into tlao pr.'.nt pu~iq lot aDd .tlao. ..to ov 1..&1 .tr..t.walolll dviq tbe ._1' .o.tbe .1'0 t..II1. with 0b11clren, bi070l.., ..d ,....trl.... TIao lancl...p1q ot taw dOYdo...nt Sin. add~U...l p.u.. :oalliq t.r, .. it cl.... i.OH...cI .1.y.tloDl t.r taw 1..0Illiq peol.. Pir.t Str..t 11 inYarl.b17 tl.ocl.d .tt.r . .t.ra .t ant o.DI.que.... '&Del w.uld ao.t 0.rta1nlJ' bo tl....cI aoro .oyort17- aDd tor a loq.r ,perio4 ot tlae. V1Iual17, taw 27,000 J&rdo .t till w.u14 .._ t.. d.yol.....t .... like . ..rt ot intru41q ...tlo ke.p,an intru.l.. ;l.t. tbe 0.....lt7 r.t..r t.... . part .t it. Pinal17, tllo ..Ie que.U.. .t taw appropriatlo. .r b.7 bett o. ,e.u.. .. aueh e..e.ra. Y.v one-tiao 1'ovn Attorao7 ....1 alH"7 ox- pr....cl 111ao.lt o. tbe ..tt.r ot tlao 1897 Town arant, 1&7iq it ... lIot Y.Ucl. AuT. ... YOI'll: Stato Dopartao.t ot St.to 11&0 .xpr....d a _i.l1ar opial... 0.. l..t ..ttor: .JQ' DEIS wla1ell rot.r. to tbe, Yiow ot taw ba7 .tro. tbe '!'.wn launeR1q Nap .. -paneraai.- (P. Jt,.:lJO) 11 .. liye. t. .Y.r.tat....t a. t. be .up..t .n alae.t .Y.r~ pas.. I bop. 70u will siye ttai. ..tt.r 7.v praJ.rtUl e...ldor.tiD.. Sin..roI7 7OV., '!'taoMi .. ,-. . . T . · RECEIVED BY SOUTHDlfl n.':::1 ~iJ'.'I'I"G Bii/'fln II u l~kl I '1.111111 u,tilf.'< NQVJ9J987 D LD y Southold. N. Y. 11971 (516) 765-1938 MEMORANDUM TO: Southold Town Planning Board Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Chairman FROM: Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner RE: Draft Environmental Impact Statement for Marina Bay Club, New Suffolk DATE: November 18, 1987 The following observations are based on two field inspections, a reading of the Draft Environmental Impact Statement, a reading of all the correspondence that has been received as of this date and a review of the minutes of the November 9th hearing on this proposal. Statements were made at this hearing to the effect that the developer has agreed to make certain changes in the proposal, as a result of community pressure. However, my comments must address the DEIS as it was written and submitted for review. The Draft Environmental Impact Statement should be revised so as to address the following items. The items are addressed as they appear or should appear, in the Executive Summary. 1. Although the actual building heights will not exceed 28 feet; they will appear to be higher than the surrounding buildings because they will be placed on about 4 to 5 feet of fill. The document does not state how the parking area will be graded and landscaped to ameliorate the 3 to 5 or 6 foot difference in site elevation between the subject property and the neighboring properties including First Street. A site grading and road profile should be included with the document. The profile analysis should show the north, south, east and west elevations. 2. The document is neither consistent nor clear in its description of the proposed seating capacity of the restaurant. Page 2.7 indicates that there will be a private dining room for twenty people. There is no mention of this room on page 1.1. Also, neither page indicates the seating capacity of the proposed outdoor seating area. -- . . . . 3. The parking calculations should include employee parking requirements when the site is operating at capacity (e.g. mid-summer weekend, transient slips full, meeting rooms and restaurant booked for a conference or mid-day reception). Handicapped parking should also be shown on the site plan. 4. An analysis of the soils tests that were taken of the marina bottom (Appendix B) should be done and placed in the body of the document. Reference should be made to the significance of the findings, particularly with regard to heavy metals and pesticide residues. If significant quantities of toxic substances exist, the document should address the following concerns: a. How will the dispersion of toxic materials in the water be mitigated during the dredging opera- tion? b. Should the "contaminated" portion of the dredge spoil be used for fill or should it be disposed of in a more environmentally acceptable manner? 5. The past use of this site as a marina and submarine base may be the causative factor in the presence of heavy metals on the marina bottom. The proposed expansion of the marina further out into the bay raises the question of whether the degradation process will be repeated. Mitigative measures to help prevent such degradation should be discussed. 6. Removal of 3300 cubic yards of topsoil and loam will re- quire a mining permit from the Town Board. What provisions will be made to provide adequate topsoil for landscaping? 7. The document and the site plan should state what propor- tion of the 500 feet of bulkheading will be new and which portion will be replacement. The site plan should also show the existing shoreline as well as the proposed bulk- heading line. The present and proposed elevations of the beach area at the southerly part of the project should also be shown. 8. The location of the sewage pumpout station is shown next to the fueling dock. The document does not address how this system will work. Will it be connected directly with the sewage treatment plant? Could anbther pumpout station be placed near the permanent slips to encourage its use by those boat owners who tend to be stationery or use the boat as a weekend home? 9. The document should address the hazards associated with placing two 10,000 gallon fuel storage tanks underground, particularly ground that is likely to be saturated with water. The alternative of placing the tanks above-ground and away from the boat slips should be discussed. , ~ . . . . 10. The document should also discuss how accidental fuel spills at the fueling dock, the fuel tanks and within the boat storage building will be contained. 11. The support utility building does not observe the 500' buffer required by New York State, as mentioned on page 4.38. The type of construction should be noted. (Type 5 construction may not exceed one story in height.) 12. The document should discuss the pros and cons of the two types of sewage treatment plants that could be in- stalled. Percolation tests and soil borings should be taken on the site to determine whether the ground will be able to handle the projected load of appnoximately 17,000 gallons per day throughout the year, in addition to any 6" rainfall runoff that may drain into the projected 39 leaching pools. Provide drainage calculations. 13. The boat storage building may not house the shower, laundry, and Reverse Osmosis water treatment plant under Type 5 construction requirements. If another type of construc- tion is being proposed, the document should state this. 14. The site plan shows parking spaces in the path the travel- lift must traverse from the slip to the boat storage build- ing. This is not acceptable site design. 15. The leaching pool system is designed to handle 2""rainfall. It should be designed to handle a 6" rainfall. Under no circumstances should stormwater overflow be allowed to drain into the Bay except through a filtration system de- signed to prevent the introduction of particulate matter into Bay waters. 16. The document should incorporate into the discussion on the reverse osmosis water treatment system the following information: a. Salinity, pH, and general composition of the water pumped from the well. b. Salinity, pH, and general composition of the reject water at the point of discharge into the Bay. The temperature of this reject water should also be stated. c. Probable impacts of the introduction of reject water on the marine ecosystem surrounding the outfall pipe should be discussed. The discussion should include the effects of temperature differences and force of dis- charge at outfall pipe, as well as salinity differences. d. Explanation of why well site was chosen. 4 . ,. . . . . eA . . 17. The proposed configuration of the marina entrance will increase boat traffic in the area between Schoolhouse Creek and Captain Marty's fishing station. The naviga- tional hazards that may result should be addressed in the document. 18. The document states that the southerly beach line needs to be stabilized, but provides no evidence in support of this. Will bulkheading this beach have any negative impacts on the stability of the remainder of the shoreline to the south and west? 19. The discussion of the sewage treatment facility should include the following information: a. Definition of Class GA groundwaters as per New York State. b. Definition of difference between Total Dissolved Solids and suspended solids effluent concentration. 20. The question of ownership of the underwater land should be discussed in depth. The site plan does not include a complete metes and bounds (survey) description of the property and the underwater land. The terms of the New York State grant should be presented in the body of the document. It should be noted that the Suffolk County Tax Maps show the underwater lands adjacent to this project as being in the ownership of Southold Town. The scale of this project must be given careful considera- tion. There are two factors that must be addressed: the size of the proposed restaurant/conference facility and the size of the marina. Both have their separate impacts on theicland and the water. The restaurant's size is the determinant of the volume of salt water that will need to be treated, the volume of sewage that will need to be treated and disposed of, and the number of parking spaces that will be required. The storage facility and the perman- ent slips in the marina are lesser determinants of those items. The marina and its operation will detenmine the degree of environmental impacts on the bay bottom and ecosystem. It is suggested that the final environmental impact state- ment address a scaled down version of this proposal, one that pro- vides for more landscaping, better interior site design, and more compatible architecture. , @ ~ 'D . 1'-'- r~~'~~i 5~"I / 1?e>&r.{ ~~ RECEIVED BY , SOUTHtiLD mAil j SU'ld7 ~ II. f 7 -----N-&'k*~. Iblf,r~ ~.....h"~~II~'- ()~.,.~L ~ -;;- e,.,....~ ~ ~ "'1 ~~~~. ,~ ~ F ,,~ l' -tk Isf Sf.-~(~ ~IL-. /)~ '1k /f4NtT u.:1',..tA90.e ~ ~~"~:"'7 Iii ~~..It -~'~-.~"'~;H W<Le IU ~ ~ .lV'c.v ~ J.I~ .--- l . ..I."7r-J:. /5 -fk ,..,."" -de shu. Se-~. . ~iL ~_. W'I '''.'1 , IS ~JKd...f.- iA h.,..,I w- "''' _ .. ;.., ~ -Sl1ef,. ,/,;,t:f ~ e.~-'" . ~ 1t;.~1<.. -It.J'M -Ii. (!"'U ~ ~ ~ /gw. ~ J.4.-..A.f- ~ ttX..t.. -$- ~ hL- ~ .Lf- J.-... 7L.- jJ-~- ~. a-.t ~ ""- <-4..:.4 A..... ;" &/I~' ,~ ~...... . a.6"~.4 ? 7"--""'"-'/ :r~ e..-..-./U;.L,-, t!rf ~, "",,t~..ui-fk.r ~.;$ t.ttc:: ~A4L u-J,:",? ItA- If, ~,.,n..ru...:.Jj '/ IUd,.,. ad-J ~ V~; ~ ~ ~ F ~'" (',.:t... 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Jacks.. Street ~ew Suffolk, ~.Y. 11956 November 1', 1987 Soutl101d Town I'lannilll!l: Doard Town l1all Southold, New York 11971 tientlemeJl: A5 a resideRt of New Suffolk for maRl years, 1 wish to record stron~ly my objections to the marin proposed by Mr. t<ichllrd t;arr in the villa~e of New ,:,uffolk. ~Jthou~h there are other rea.ons to ohject, 1 wisb to address only the problem of overflow traffic and conr,estiofi which will arise if the pla.s are approvel!. AIr. l.arr'. plans call for ~ reataura.t with a capacity of 380 people ( includiA~ bar and conference rooms) a8 opposed to 77 people at preseat. lfe inh'lIda to erect a clock 600 feet to the .t;ast into 1.IItchol!:Ulil Marbor WIth approximately 140 boat slips. He iatendH to raise the level of the land a few feet apd erect a buildiR~ to house lavatories, showers and laundry facilities. I'oew ::'uffolk ill a small vj_lle~e with two main entrance and exit roads - one to Cutcho~ue to the I'oorth aad the other to Mattituck to the ~e8~. These two reeds meet at New ~uffolK Ave. and Main Street aAd from this point to the site of the proposed merina (4blocks) all the traffic m~st preceed on the ona two l~ne ptreet. New ~"ffolk already haa a summertime tr~ffic prob I elll \'I'i tb the pllbl ic beach which is avai labe to all aud the bOl'lt loarlin'f ramp which likewise is available to all people. It is my belief that the traffic to be ~enerated if Mr. l.Srr'E; pll'lll.s are approved will rOilul t .in abllolute chllss. l"urthl:rPlol'E' parkiu~ &paces oj 175 cars is corainly insufficient for ~ restaurant of the size to be built and for dock space fDr 140 slip.. To approve a proposal of this ma~nitude with res\lltin~ trAffic flow and off street parkin~, wili naturally lower the real e~tnte valYe~ of home~ in this small residential viJJ8~e. It is obvious that tdr. t;arr couldn't core less I'bout I'oe", Suffolk residentll, ~e we look ;:0 the PlalUtia/!; HORrd foJ' its co~sideration for the continuance rif the villa~e of New Suffolk all a small quiee resideatial COlDlDlulity. It would be my hopu linn the hope of many others, that \II'. t,;arr's &PI)licatioo should Rot be a~proved. ~irCtlroly :J"'. es G~ , :EIVED BY Soumcw WI'ii. HAiiNlNG. BOARD DATE November 16, 1987 Planning Board, Southold Town Benne tt Orlowski, Jr., Chairman Town Hall, Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Dear Mr. Orlowski and Board Members: We are writing with regard to the Marina Bay Club proposal for New Suffolk, speoifically the Draf~ Environmental Impact Stat.ment as disoussed at the public hearing November 9, 1987. We.want to reiRforoe our statement of concern for tbe quality and quantity of our private water supply our home property is the northeast corner of Main and Third Streets. The reverse osmosis system appears to be a very expensive one, and largely un:tried. How can we be sure our own source (and our neighbors ,) is pro- tected? Is a further environmental impact study needed? We must look to our local government -- town, county, and state -- to prevent avoidable impairment of our water resources, the fresh water supply of individual homes and the resource of Peoonic Bay as a live habitat. AYq change in temperature or salini-ty of Bay water brought abou", by t.. proposed. water supply system and/or wastewater trea'tment system will surely hay. an impac", on the life in the Bay. We are not opposed to having a marina on the props)"ty in question. We respec~ IIr. Carr's rights and we appre- ciate his efforts to date to accommodate the concerns of New Suffolk residents. However, the size of the enterprise as currently proposed seems enormous. We are apprehensive that Mr. Carr's Marina Bay Club, no matter how good his intentions, may througn the sheer size of the operation irretrievably damage our resources and have an ongoing negative impact on the quality of living in New Suffolk. Thank you for hearing us. Sincerely, , ~ RECEiVED P S"Wf'c::. '.' . . U-.:1.il.:LJ.-J!;d', i'J"".,." _..:.-J liOV 1 G 1987 ~ D;,Tj-- 4 ~ Jh~~ !~JiVtd ~cvL.R-. ~P_J cJ ~ :! Ih~. ~un -..--.-----~-- ;;In- '/ -.. ~--~---__________ . /) 1:: .~O ----m--"'d/.- 'n... _ ... . _ .__~-~------- ~z:i~ ~cO ~ Y-e, ~ ~. t ~ ~ _ ). --.-- '. J~ ~-~~~ ~...--. -.. . ,,;/>o-<J.~-1~.~~~On---~ . - ~ _~_,;,{~--.J_~L-~_~__ _~LL_~_~ .~___~___~____ dCPJ2"=_~-9'l4n . ~--?fZ--------- /222~~ 7 ao-vcf ~J--'k~-- =:J~" . ~. ~_.. .__. u____ p~(/fJ, ~ OLd-V~ kdJ ~ ....-.... f . . . . 16 5....b.r. 1987 S.cond Stre.t I.w surro1k. N.Y. D.ar Sir: Would ~ou p1.a.. take account or tbe .nc10.od p.tition in 10ur de1ib.ration. conc.rning tbe propo..d red...10paent or tbe old Worth Perk Sb.ip7&!"d. '1'b..re 11 onougb. trarric in this ar.a a1r.ady. Arter you b.a.. record.d our .i.w.. would ~. b. .0 kind a8 to rorward tbe p.tttion to the TOwn Bear4. '1'haftka tor ~our be1p in this aattor. V.~ul110ur.. Paul Loar~ RECEIVED BY SOUlHOLD lOWN PlANNING BOAR\! NOV 17 1987 DATE ',,:-,.-,:.-- .......-:?-"'..-,'i'~.' ,. . ".~ ~';-'::;,; -~\.:. ,'>i~' '":Yl'-''r~, ' 'I"'. ' ......, ......-. -.,: ,',.., . ., .~". ,. :>:-",f'; ',".-'. ". """':'" -;-" I -. .. " .". ',' -,"'" .'~'.'... '. >r ...~;.~~~....~hder:si?(ri~-:.eJtpr~fl..~tc.s~1J~.~.: }.. t,(;l, l'1"ve th'e.foHowing c~nditi~$;~~ed: . 'J ' '1. ~ticinal' restrictive p~r'king' l'l'1Ili~~OD;". en " :v:i.r$t; and: ~ona:. Stree~s, Soutii' of Ma"a i( ~et ''Il.ftd ~ckson Street between First and : - . " .,,---.' 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I f I ..:?/? +- / /) =- ~ ~'~~,/U~ /S-O~ 01/ 07TV f; c27,cmvUl,~"' ~~ ~)(()Ivzn; P--'rL~~) ;IJ, L/57) zfk7 ~"r- R,-o ~ ' I .3D ~ 8l:'A<.<Z..v / (i;CQ;fS/r'"'!~'" t/cJ1t) '. 3'lP ~7-,="".7. /7t t'~CA<-J~ /'(,f'~ f~2- ~ ~.~~ srp -5) OZ7'-.;::> tf . . . , RECEIVED B" SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNINr _u__NQ1J8198 King Street P. O. Box 149 New Suffolk, New York 11956 November 16, 1987 Mr. Bennett Orlowski, Chairman Southold Town Planning Board Town Hall Southold, New York 11971 RE: Marina Bay Club, New Suffolk, NY Dear Mr. Orlowski: Our home and another house we own are located to the north-west across the street from the proposed Marin~ Bay Club and will be directly affected by this facility. We are not opposed to the improvement of this parcel and the marina/res- taurant complex, however we are very concerned about the size and certain other aspects. It would seem that the proposed size of the marina and restaurant are out of line with what is needed. A 300 seat res- taurant and 137 slip boat marina is too large. The traffic generated by the facility would be unbearable. Not only that, but there are only approximately 170 parking spacesl Parking for employees alone would take up at least 25 spaces. The overflow from customers of the complex would spill out into the surrounding neighborhood. Parking for Bonnies-by-the-Bay, a restaurant on First Street across from the Marina Bay Club, fills the street in that area during the summer. They do not have off-street parkin? and conceivably some of Bonnies customers might park in the Cluh s parking lot. Other factors that are of concern are the underground fuel tanks, the reverse osmosis system, the noise generated by this system as well as the sewerage treatment plant, pollution to the Bay, lights, chemical storage, elevation of the site, flooding caused by same and noise in general. We would sincerely appreciate your addressing these problems and taking them into serious consideration before approval of the DEIS is given. Very truly yours, CD.r1 d ~ Ci1e.J- Mr. & Mrs. Carl S. Avent -,--- , . . ,~ --4t. w- 'i~ /b~ 87 . RECEIVED BY SOUTHOLD lOlitl yiJ,mmm Bn~~n ~ TO . 7JM;.. Sou 71.tf!l.-f> .~ TCJl<J 1-/L~1'I~H-Cr:-./l2,o~ . j)~.~S{I<'S A- $ .+- '-CJMGTriA4 ~ N &. <AJ S; V ~ '-(<:- ;e/$-S 1810'/ r; I I"'!Y' Jt;-;;fiiP- VOL c..~ tM'j oPtfo..~ 1 L'c...N 'to h:u.:. fR-ofo~ O-v rZ./..OJ>Mr2~ Ai: I Th~ ~o ct:=-- N.Ew su Fro L-!L/4.\J ~ , J. T ~ lS ~J~\(, .~~ 1)iI..\J~l.O!~_Fc./L-~ <f>t!^"-"'-I I-l-r T L.~\J\\..t......c.,~!;ll":-l:E. N.tE.u.J_J;.lJ6==-~CJYL. . I- I\..U \1...... QI€- s -r:~'1 '1~~ (:,~c.." fE.V'L-fl-~D I N.[)\V\/bV I\-t..c.. \.- T'( of 1\+\> ceY_l s:. TL-l -r II.. ~l~ LIJ\ I.- Ii: T (. . ... ~ . !) I V 0:~E .'1 0 ut-\.or_b"-o~fl/'t.()u tt: "r~ts ~ /)._0120 Sol"T to-o'-{.. ((.~I..-\z..l~)nfv_vl.'l~}}t~ ()u..J~nl+~~ .....v~l v2l('V~J fo 'D~V\2!.\.o.)~~_ PNLc..Iz:L- f'l.-~t&,- u9,1"C~\1j Mll'4D DtlYv n'I€::::C--~~_ID~!?_grb~.vJ SI.I ~<<;:.oL-t'- ~ 'f1;rl!:... OH\~\..Vlt-o.J~~\)~)-c,_(...I~~~ ~\-cl+ A-M'1 ~..'-U_~ Ct\+",,~~.~ ~D~ 't uUj ()v-f2..- ~~~i$S./$-M,p...rIUlY.? ,')\.A-O-uc.-J?_J+"'<J~g,:1I2... Ii>~ T t':'l"'t~lt>T AT !~c...T. . ~ olJ1'V> ~VL-7~_ .. ~ ~~ ., . ~l~ ~ 6(t./I T [+.IN CJ t,I.L- rf<,D NE-~. .s u P=:tCol,.,(C-- . . . . T D Southold, N.Y. 11971 (516) 765-1938 MEM 0 R ANDUM TO: Jean A. Celender, JAC Planning Corp. ~ Diane M. Schultze, Administrative Assistant~ FROM: DATE: November 16, 1987 RE: Marina Bay Club, DEIS As per your request, enclosed are copies of correspondence received with regard to the above, as well as, a copy of the minutes from the hearing. . . 'T . . . RECEIVED,~."- snm\lU\ll \ll\i1'}lJ\I~~~nM\U JO\J 1; ,\,,0 DAlE lS .oveabor, 1987 Town plannlng Board Town Hall Soutl:llid, N.Y. Dear Slr: Some aoqualntenco. and I havo collected elgnature. on a potltlon aeking that, prlnclpally, tbe .1se or the develop- ment at tba old .ortb Pork SblPJ&rd be bald down, con.lderably belov tbe .1se planned by Mr. Carr tbe developer. We truet that you, ln your deliberatlone, vl11 take our vleve lnto account. Slncerely youre, -N . Ii " ;1 II, .' L.. tbe und.ra1gn.d r.a1t.nta .t tbe .r.. running .l.ng H.v !;utt.lk A..nu. tr.. M.tt1tuat t. S.v Sutt.lk and .l.ng S.v Burt.1k R..d tr.1II CutobeSU. t. S.v Sutt.lk . iVI.v vltn a1ara tbe pr.j.ct.d 400% 1Dor.... 1n tr.ttic t. I}). s.n.r.ted b7 tbe HuiDa $&7 Club d...l.pm.nt .10 tn. .1t tf.rtn Perk Sb1pJ'&N, l"n4 urg. '1'be '1'.wn .t S.utbelt t. beld d.wn tbe .h. .t tn. I'a...lap..nt ta . ..r. r....Dabl. ~ tban tbe plann.d 137 })..t a11pa. tbe 400-...t r..t.urant, .nd tn. 100-~ tr7- j....teras. t.01111:7 tar .\11&11 b..t.. 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II - -. . ~ , i " ii, !~. tn. und.r.lgned r..l..nta et ~be ar.a runnlng aleng x... liSutt.lk Avenu. tre. Mattltuok te .." surr.lk and aleng If... ,18uft.lk R.ad. trem CuteneSUII te .e" Buttelk :'vle.. "ltn alara ,be preJ.e,""cl 4~ lner.... ln trattlc te Ibe gen.rated b1 tbe MarlDa Ba1 Cl\1b tlevelepunt at tb. el. I Nertn Perk SbipJ'&N. I anel urge 'l'be 'l'ewa et Beutbel. te neld tI.wa tbe da. et tb. '.ld.V.lePIh. nt te a .er. rea.eyv\ble -.lit tban tbe planned 137 :beat alJpa, tbe 400-..at r..taurant. and tb. lOOM~ 4r1- I,.hr" t&0111t1 t.r amall b,at.. , Iname . . atldre.. " SZ) dB)r;fPh1~j;)i!<L-.. J}~fh~.. /0 c1 I( I S::~~Lt"- f\.... ,( - r-h1.U(A - 2/20 u~. G~~~ T 63c (i4....r ~'4- t& )t~l~( ):. (j ~vy(' fn/vf,..liiL- lh,J.i~/v~'('=-c c a Id f-11l~ k;; Kd. i'Jew ~-'No.tL (CM-fch~5"-'-' PCI ) S'LJ fH'J.1./. A/ y._~ lJkiJL~c o - ,) ,: L.4'" Q,c . u rutgjj.lf-. I07M'JI;J4' ~ tk'f (1)~f /1!.l- / / !.J-(' II Co.AYl~ \n~)Ct.-- fYtct.;\h-\'t9d1; U q~~ ~,jk Q/J( 1 GfcL~1.1S '. . 1\ I' I' I) 0 ~ /if.." / ~ rffl/,5 JI;Jk1r ~ I~~~ // 1/ 1/ 1// ro~~~~ b7~.C~~~~ ~. / I. ..~ (!///~ 1I1V~~~LI(&i t~~JlllJ- II,. ., '. " ~ '" [!. t-..- ~. /l ~ .. II V.]. '!.o_J:i~ S-..ff,Jk A~ 'c1r:L::J,~}./4 'I , I " . I I '/:;, , :1 ;j \ - ... -- ----. ., ' II " . -. . " I r Z-- ~ q .~ r ~ (;, i 'i' II' itli. tbe uncl.I".1ped ....1..nt. lit tbe u.a l'unn1ng al.ng x.v ISufrelk A,y.nu. tr.. Mattituok t. ..v 8urr.lk anc! .1eng B.v ,18u1'relk R..4 tr.1II CutCDeSUe te B.v 8urrellt ;'v1ev v1tb al~ tbe pl"e.1ected 4~ 1nCI'.... 1n tr.r1'10 t. b. g.ner.t.d b7 the M:!U"1na Ba7 Club .eyel.plUnt .t tb. el. ..rtb Perk 8b1P7&N, aD4I urge The T.WD .t 8.utbel. t. b.U .evn tbe .h. er tb. !d.y.l.plUnt t. a .el"e ......nabl. ~ tban tbe pl.nn.d 137 i .at .11p.. t~ 400-..at I"..taurant, .nd tbe 100-~ 41'1- ;.terage 1'a0111t1 1'.1" .mall b..t.. 1ft... a4dl'e.. ~ lo.t/{ Jt~ j)~~IiJ;t,1u{!~"-'LL!1(Z. 1/2.J J/ (, "~ . "tlL~ ~ u Ir ft ,//1-' :u- , ~I '1' i) I i w;-------------------------------- _n_ - . ~ ~1 1'4 !.' ~ P . ~ };L,~ In-vJrJ V hc/J1/r~ ~lVED ~V SGUlHGLD IG\IN PlANNING BOARD A NO~87 " VI 4/ ~ ,1-w/Z-eA./ vrJ y~ <{ ~w &/~~ a~ ~/w -'l /j/~~ ~~d:- _~ ~ ,~~ t I ~ J jJ", ~-wmhvn! )?~ 0' fl/ v k . r' cl4A ~d~ ~ W,auL {~ )UA ru /z~fkc ~ ?Ie~ L N2/!dy-- / ~t~ cl/7 4-~ ~ ;t/uv ~~LiL ~vrJ.l!/ pV ;iJ{~r/- ~i: ~~ ~ ~ Vi 4--0 ~ 11~ yJ;jJU ~ /JurZ--~ ~-- ~T~h.?tLu-:MrL ~~. I c/ Y~Q/LaA:lt7 /l;h/l-LV, l(J~) ~~?~~~ ......,..,...p'.~.-:"""C.:-::.~."""'c~.. ., .,- .,~- -~-C";'-~'~l':~--.y..,,,~~-.. ,~.,-. ''''''''''''l': - .... ',""--'--"":"~,,,,,"c"m.,,~ 'T' '-.c.' ",---",-""".,-'~'.-- -.-,-.....(?-..,. .._-_._..._..,..~, ;""-:', .. . : ,"t'"." ~ . l' , , kECEIYED&'Y snU1IUllD lrr\~N PWltlIN& .. ~r-- I' , I I , I Noveaber 15. 1987 .' i. '1" S<,u't!nJldTe.., fl""t", !loard Town "11 "'_Rot. SQutko14. ..w to~k 11971 ",'" ":. ,,: '. ..' ;;~' R.. A, 1, Idrii · '.", cof' '..~"':~,' ~. h, ,,"'.. . ,,' , r~.._ol Clll"(R;o~1:!' '.I!',C~1:), .... !few Suff"llr',.~wrt~~" "."; , t ",. . '" . __ ..: .."_ . -"j' _ ..... ---:,",,-,1" ,,~. __~-;-~ Cbaift.-Orl,wlilr:i an4- Meabers of the, Bod.) , "',~< <:":'-.' .: ,! .::'-.- --: .:',: .,:-' -:' -: ',::<> .~!.~~~!~~Y'~ ~~"~:~~j'~.~~ attorneylwat;",.rbW!'" """HM:tt.t,,,,'t,, ,~"1; ,,~~:t. cen- 8~stl! of h."Hne:;'ff,lltel'l'1:_,t~'~~i'" '~~'; '~"YRiOllijlll .atfPClcts . l~ t""11~:to7edbl a fOq\L"ri, ,..10_.'1; fire ,hI' a~t,t...,~afti, I feday ~" nee 0 ,I' tll,!. 10'- n,..r,',', s_"",~":'f"~,,,"/IJJ,,,',',~r, at, her un, ique i, 'II8tjlil\, '.,"f,',i'io;t,', 0, " ..ill". __,". . " 1,.,.,Al, 'iM, "".',.'h, filb, ,. ",lC,,',. d,",', ;'''~~'' dvrell ,t.,',M, tlllUl!,t,',K,.'bt,', {,;R.,'. ,Pr, "" by 'flte ., .Jl11...- e~ht,. \)Ut.UR.;~~O'~e'bthind-th.-seel'1~::~yeX'!. and. for' . 1&.'01(. Of...... .(\ii. '.'.;. .M.'ttot'a...P)'ChOl.OD. that f$..OU'Ui~.}tJ1.. ..nc to brine a P1"04eClt'~..>. the JlirilUf. Bt$ .ebb to .tr'lli,Hon!i: We _1dHk~_Ot'f'e~tbe' following gen.>>"l ~_~8'forthe S_rd's co~$A.tiOl'li 1. Fltst',p.t al1.~. .o~d str~s~;y.lI',~. ~~ ~"., < :t~rf!".~r :l;~t thlS Il$!S .... bo_~;..iC11 r.~ b7ittl".' ~~.;CUl_tl()n. Innoi"- tllUd.c"'n~b4t]!liibeledan \Ul,b~"..4" ... ...... ot>tfie ilIIpllet.AJf 'l;his proJ4tC1:~:Jt"i.;,..... ...~. No.eve lope'!" Is" going to spend t~~u.""t.dt i ; I ! I' l i ! ; . r , 1< __ir_:~,"~ ,__...~,'- "-'l.':,; A....... '.' ..., '....". ',:;~ - " M~T ~H .. --. .~~'-c~.~<. ';,7-~ -jj* ,~ ..~, .",. ~". " '," ",' Town P1annir/g~~'ar~ 15. 1987 '. """ ...,'~ '-'r---'~'-"--~-"'-----" ~.,._~~ -< .~ ~ "l Southo1d November Page 2 dollars for a document that sllows his project would have an adverse effect on the en~tron- ment. As we all know, statistics can ~sica11y be manipulated to support whatever ar~nt one wishes to present. Points in 'one' s fa~r aX'e printe4 in bold ~apita1 letters and expounded upon in great detail. Findings not entirely supportive of ene's position are buried .in a small paragraph at the end of a chapter, if mentioned at all. 2. Mr. Carr and his attorney, Mr. Hart, ar~ making a great show of their belief that Ik'. Carr has an irrefutable right to the .pproximatelfY three acres of underwater lands covered by th~ Southo1d Town and New York State grants. As..~ 'brought up at the hearing by Mr, LoWry, many re~ldents of the village are seriously questioning the validity of this c1aill and will be res4larching this particular point in great detail 11'). the w.eks to come, I would ask the Board tq keep in mind that this is a controversial issue and not a fait accompli, as Mr. Carr would ~ve you believe. J. In reg~rd to the sewage treatment plant and r~~e osmosis water'system. Mr. Ca1la~an, ...".nf"neer who spoke for th~ lIew SUffcl~k Civic Aa,oc ation at the recent hearin@;'isO,chmore q~~i"fied than I to offer speCifi,co,bje",t,ions, I would just like to urge the Board to. ive a great deal of consideration to his eo nts and tbose of the Baymen's ~sociation regarding the effect of the effluent and excess s.line on our environment, Furthermore, due to t~e question which has been raised concerni~g the possibility that the Riverhead s,ewage tl'~atment plant has contributed to and/or caused the "brown tide" problem we have eXp4iIrience4 for the past three seasone, it is highly qu"tionab1e whether another eewage treatment plliUlt' .,hou1d be allowed until thie matter ~ been fullt resolved. 4. pet'flaps the single iS8u. which most concerns our reSidents about the Marina Bay Club's applica- tion is, ,the incr"esse in tr, aftic, WhiCh~, \lId be generated by tl}~ project, Uslng thetigures contained in-th,4',llJtIS, it is estime:tedthat, " , . . " ;~ . "; -""'.' ,.' 10 & "-"~"._' 1~" "-~ ';.O-;'_~----------:~ '--'~"'~' '..~'.._~'''''_--'''-'----'---__'_'C'__ .., 'l'i="fII"'..' ~~ -- ~-.- -- "", .~.-.,..",.,-.., .,"",,'-"'---- --~.- L ._. . SOlol'thold fownPlanning Board No",ellber, 15. 1987 Page J . . p :. ." ..' I at peak timesdurl-ng the BUlIIDIer Ilonths ,i . there will be. ~ increase int'l'aff1c on our roads of apP;"ol'imately 4,1)0 percent. Yet ttlis .1UlIe DE IS 'states that there will!l be no appreciable impact on our d1ilage: . d1H to this increase. This i. ludicrouS!. I c~rtainl,y h.,that.the BO~<l,will giiVe a,~t.<l.alof' thought to t1l1r: ~lact thiis ..cIif'...~!lf',traffic would'hav8 on our sy.~ell ,o! roali._ In oo,ncl~ion, I wou14 11.Jr:e to s1;ate lilY 8'tr~"lbJ.etion to this project in it" e~~i,.ty ..~~ J.o\lrv~ll~e would agree;t_t tu s1.te, .. it prei~l"s,ua.. cO\lld: Wle a gr~a.t 4~aJ;.. '..Of.iIIpro, \,elllent..,.,lJIos. t r.esf1AU.... . ,1(O\1ld"b&. ve".~.:. C. ;8ct1cm to :fl!l;:;l:~~~~;, e~q:.:~~"~aJ.t.......,~ S~~~i.,~.;~.~=r~o.\l..,r-.,..~. d:. :.~lY ~~::h;:;:~:';*:~~!i::f~.ltN:~~:t!~,' reason_,ie size,wa.s I'll '1,<'1fX':Otc ..,,' ". ",ltVotte!1 o~r to the lIl,i~rop~ot\e and s'tlllted t '. an, opera ion. ,0 . "'\ ~.,prbp'o"clext.nt 1snecess&ry in o~__.tO !AI1~e'~f"CfUr1I:Q.N::q'1ht;i. cPlSta.We hurd a fiowerr spe.u'abott' ...tM4.V~~" a7qulllit;y, high- ~:S;lI~~i;:i:~c:U. '. :t~~...'.~t.~....'. ,ne~t ';:l1t~ t..::l'le.OI beginning, I ba:ve:*Jl;;. II "d,~~~&, ',' '., " e",: tOT' nara, and if there'S.~ thi<rllil.''',i~ .._.' Mr. Carr iain tA.1.s to uke agre_~'4ed 0 '.' .M7,' rid' .... tt. ,it. He c~ Jl!llli7 all the lip service he wantl'J! ~\". th.... ~.ea.. 't.",ll;Pt~.*~f..c.oo:pe;'.t.10l\, with the people of New !~~'~t'\l~,'~.rM1L.'inPtt..l'Yj;ng '. our special niche in h..istory, .and the COUZt~~'" _.18 8...i.... ....'. that would fiow to the town by vit"tUe o~ this protect -.' iJ,'." is On ,the bottom l~.,and a . goO<! show of pll~~ic rela~t'0h8'. iill on,lY. has",n the t1l1le.b. efore he r.ealizes, a .~. }~~s..,. t_nt$, 1, re. turn." on h:!-. investment. We in New Suffolk. havea'lll,tch ~ .re it\.1;angil>le goal befon us - to preserve our. "'illage, our envirptllllent"and ou.r 'wa,y ..of life '. not only for oureelYO.. .bu;t . ~r M~". .... .ra.:tiOns to enj~y. Silaply stated,_. C4l1R'S rROl'I, MARGINi . _ IQVE TO BE lIET Af THE COST OF OUR QUALITY OF LIIE. .1'lterecentUe,ct1<ms s~ow that the i1ajority of 1'e,op1. in the Tojm of SOl1thold agree. ", I thank: the Board for79ur time and consideration. ~.1~:'--' ,."--__.-'r_...." '"---.......:..........., . . RECC:VED CY SOUTHGiU Iud fUii\;;Ii~G SCAf;n IiOVTit frSi:S~ 11-15-87 SOUTHOLD PLANNING BOARD. SOUTHOLD, NY... I UNDERSTAND PROM RECENT PRESS ARTICLES AND WORD OF MOUTH THAT MR. CARR IS PROPOSING AN ENOBMOUS DEVELOPMENT PROJECT POR THE NORTH POR SHIP YARD AREA INVOLVING A LARGE RESTAURANT. MANY DOCKS POR BOATS AND OTHER PACILITIES. DUE TO THE EXTBBME LIMITATIONS ON OUR POTABLE WATER SUPPLY AND OUR NATURAL PACILITY POR THE DISPOSITION OP WASTE MATERIALS PROM BOATS AND SHORE. I THINK A GREAT DEAL MORE THOUGHT SHOULD BE GIVEN BEPORE THIS PROJEC'! IS APPROVED. PURTHER. THE ONE AND ONLY ROAD THROUGH THE HEART OF NEW SUFPOLK WILL NEVER HANDLE. APPROPRIATELY. THE LOAD OP TRAPFIC THAT COMES AND GOES EVERY SUMMER. SOONER OR LATER. THi POTABLE WATER SUPPLY AND THE WASTE MATERIAL WILL COME TOGETHER BENEA'1'H THE GROUND THiN ALL OP NEW SUFFOLK WILL HAVE A BIG PROBLEM. AS A COMPROMISE. MAY I SUGGEST MR CARR REDUCE THE SIZE OF HIS PROJEC TO SAY 1/4 or 1/5TH OP THE ORIGINAL WITH THE PROVISO THAT HB CAN ADD TO THB THING ONCE IT IS ESTABLISHED THAT THE WATER AND WASTE PROBLEMS ARE NOT WITH US. lVE BEEN A RESIDENT POR THE PAST 27 YEARS AND ENJOY THE AMBIANCE AND BASY GOING ATTITUDE OP OUR TOWN. I WOULD HATE SO TO SEE IT DESTROYED' THANKS POR YOUR CONSIDERATION. SINCERELY. JoHN B. ASBBJl:l!" . IIOX. lIT 1 nw~ , RaVED BY SOOIlIoUl'lWN PlllNNING BOARD -MV l' 1BB7 .s.~ ~E~ " ""\ ~ \-\ o.Q.Q... ~~ \ Y'-," I ~11:ft"J. ( ~~~~~~~ 3:-.-- ",-', ~~,~ JQul ~ Q.... ~A~, ~~ ~H~~ujJfJ21, ...L~~ .~~ ~ ~ ~ ~,<>~"'" ~~~~ ~~V:, ~" &- ~~~~. j~ ~ ~ ~~':\~ ~ +~ ~--\:..sv-...p. .. 5) ~ --+- O. ,\ ~\ .~. " YY\~~~ .~~ ~... \ I)-~~l\-\-~ 'I^-~" ~~ ~~JL~~.;j; . ~/C() 6ft,? ~~ ..-_. - --,- - . ~ ;z.-) ~ ~~-~ \>~ ~ ~~, ~ - '\ C> 9 ~ \~ ~~~~" . ~~ ~/'5'~--t:. ~.-\-~_~ SL;3t I 3) ~ ~-~ t\~ ~~~~~~ ~~~~ ... 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(Y'llft ~Q:;\i Of) - /' // -------- ti attu\~ ~ol \ , ~ LA.Cl.Q(Jf:LU vJ '\ r~~t:;l~ ~'."I; '~.:;, ',','1'" 'J~ bacJJ01 n,,-{ ,,'\'", ',' '1'" ~ . .", 'i;~'~' ~,:,' , - VLo~~--~ ... Ctvi lCLue.- ~ uYI \ =- - --= ", \ fro} Ul~! mrh~ 6~ p70. ~ CcMSlJ ~ / r . /-- /- --// . ~ )'lliJJ rpm tMm ~ ,,\ dD~~ , i tf LW-u ~+IGVo vn~ rot r&-Qd OJ)~ /"/{)J1un ~ mof~ vn-~~~ . ~ G'~<;~J;'s- . ',,' i'i:)'t,~1t , ~~ H6V- ~ ~t ~d- -'" ~ {;t. 7" r , . . . '\ f . ., .1....:l~':"..I.':..' " "" ~ . I .. / "./I" . :,1 lAL6QO( c:::5Y') ,:, (~( ,~nr.i:'lfl;"~: / , "~!"uti. u( '-"'tl--~ ~, \. ~d LLS 6Y) \ '< \"'\ . \ ~ , \ I O~ ~ ~ldeJr ,///~ ey Qrl.Ulclwl, a.wU~ ' ~4Jont oJ. , ~ CLohL ~t~d - ~-t Loi+hdrO-uJ ~ plan , - ~ un-h-I ~ op. /J.-U- /l J, /l J.IifL WiwJ- prob~ "f'-0unL/~'a " . . . RECEIVED BY' SOUTHOlD lUVIN PlANNiNG BOARD . Planning Board Town Hall Southold, NY 11971 November 13, 1987 Gentlemenl In the hearing held at Town Hall on Monday, November 9, 1987 I expressed my opinion that the proposed Marina Bay Club is not a good plan for New Suffolk, and that many other people in the town agree with me. I resented, and continue to resent, hearing the lawyer for the developer taking the position ~f speaking for the people of the village, claiming that they (we) are pleased with the plan. I believe that our village will be crushed in the developer's need for profit, which has caused him to propose a project which is completely out of proportion to the size of New Suffolk. If this plan is allowed to go through, there will be more customers at the restaurant (JOO) than there are permanent residents of the hamletl We are already inundated with cars on summer weekends, the public beach is overflowing, the pUblic parking lots filled, cars and boat trailers parked on the streets for blocks around. We already have more noise at the large pnblic parking lot than many of us can stand without calling the police to inter- vene. We already have inebriated drivers leaving the small local bar in the middle of the night, drag racing up Main Street, careening around corners with screeching tires. Will we enjoy having a lar~er bar so ~ people can be served? We already have flooded streets during storms -- where will all the water that cannot percolate down through the sand because of a paved surface for parking go? We already have bay water so brown with algae that you cannot see your feet in three feet of water __ shall we risk adding sewage and motor oil from boats in 137 additional slips as proposed? Or leakage from two gigantic underground fuel storage tanks? or from the "state-of-the-art" reverse osmosis system that nobody can assure us will actually work? The interests of the developer are being well protected by his lawyers, his engineers, his feasibility studies. What about the interests of the citizens of New Suffolk, and of the other ~ "- ..... . -2- . communi ties on Peconic Bay? The Department of Environmental Conservation seems to many of us to conserve only the interests of builders and developers -- ask the residents of Orient, who are trying to preserve Hallocks Bay, with little cooperation from the D.E.C.. I believe that it is up to you, the Planning Board, to save us from this project. It is far too big for New Suffolk, and too big for Peconic Bay in its present unhealthy condition. Please do not cave in to the argument that this project will be "good" for New Suffolk -- consider the size and character of our hamlet, and how this huge facility would overwhelm the village. Thank you for your consideration. Sincerely, ./ \ Patsy Roge Member, New Suffolk Civic Association P.S. May I point out, in case nobody else has brought it to your attention, that New Suffolk already has two restaurants. One of them, though considered a Jt star gourmet restaurant by Newsday, is filled to capacity on summer weekends, but cannot scare up enough business to stay open at all between October and May. Whey does anyone think that the proposed restaurant, far larger, will do any better? And if this grand project should get built and then fail, what will we be left with? I personally consider the present "eyesore" better than the one we would then be stuck withl copy to The Suffolk Times Main Street Greenport, NY 11944 Patsy Rogers PO Box 616 New Suffolk, NY 11956 -,- .ci11e Field Goodman ~15 Fourth Street New Suffolk, New York . 11956 Southold Town Planning Committee Southold, New York Dear People I November 12, 1987 RECEIVED BY SOUTHUUJ.. r~h:J iU,{;"t fF'no - IldloU puiul ~J 6-ie?i Regarding the restaurant/marina plans for New Suffolk, please allow me to share the following fantasy with YOUI The New Suffolk of the fut'\lre I the inhabitants now live with a marina jutting far out into Peconic Bay with fuel stations creating spillage in the already contaminated waterSI many boats dumping debris and sewage into the BaYI noise pollution from airconditioning machines, pump~, sewage treatment facilities, traffic, loud music etc.l cars parked on our streets because parking lot is inadequate or inconvenient I major increase in traffic in and out of village creating fumes, congestion and noisel the terror of people who drink, and drive unsafelYI a restaurant/ catering facility that is entirely too large for this little hamlet overpowering it and eating it alivel a marina anticipating so many boats that it has to exceed the the land grants and consume Peconic Bayl THE TOO BIG RESTAURANT/CATERING CLUB/MARINA FAILING BECAUSE OF ITS GREEDY OVERAMBITION--THE PEOPLE LIVING IN NEW SUFFOLK HAVE LEFT FOR A MORE CIVILIZED, SAFER ENVIRONMENT-- NEW SUFFOLK BECOMES A GHOST TOWN I Dear people of the Southold Planning Board, don't let this happen ~o New Suffolk, its~ children, its elderly, it& gentle people. CCI Editor, Suffolk Times aZ'Z~ Lucille Field Goodman member, New Suffolk Civic Association . . 'RECEIVED rN on 1TUnll) F"'''' . 'on ~~L:nUL "Jid'~ I,",'" , .-' ~--"-~ Rov l':--'wc--"" November 12, 1987 . .. ReI Carr Application Marina Bay Club New Suffolk Members of the Boardl Although I now reside in Cutchogue, I was born in New Suffolk and Hved there for )0 years. My family moved to. New Suffolk in the late 1800's, and my daughter nOw lives in the family homestead on Jackson Street. As such, I feel I have the right to be heard regarding this application. Although we all agree that the present shipyard could use a great deal of improvement, I strongly feel that Mr. Carr's project would be a real detriment to the community, JI,w Suffolk.'s roads were just not, designed with this volume of traffic in mind, and the Bay has already suffered enough from pollution. I am therefore opposed to this project. Very truly yours, ~J~ John S. Dawson ~-.. ....~ . . South old Town B~ymen's Assn. Inc. POST OFFICE BOX 523 GREENPORT LONG ISLAND, N.Y. 11944 , NOTember 12, 19$7 RECE:VFD 'iN ~lf"'" -, ':"Y' ".'".'1. SllIHhLlU IL.... 'c ."",,," Uu"..l' ~87 DATE Southo14 Town Plannin~ Boar<< ,:Southo1d, N.Y. 11971 Re; DRIB tor the Marina Bay Club . Dear Members, In reTiewin~ the DEIS tor the Marina Bay Club projeot we haTe oono1utet the fo110win~. 1) The oonfisoation of three aores of public bay bottom oan- not be al1owet. Is eTery oitizen of N.Y.State ~oing to reoieTe his or her 3 aores ant will the oonoept ot pUb1io lant be abo1- ishet. The other faot is that muoh of this 3 aore percel was a protuotiTe scallop ~rount until the afTent of the brown tite. 2) Dret~in~ 27,000 ou. yis. ot bottom is statet to be non-si~- nifioant. For the Town of Southold this is si~nifioant. For ex- ample the Southo1d Town Trustees now haTe a policy of 1imitin~ any oreek tred~ing project to under 100 yarts. We turther Question whether the concentrations of heaTY metals ant other elements such as tin, oopper, 1aat, ohromium, meroury, arsenio, eto., make this tred<<e material suitable for fill. We also question the adTisabi1ity of the tredlin~ process dispersin~ these materials into the water oolumn of the Peoonic system. 3) 39 1eaohin~ pools oolleotin~ extensiTe parkin~ lot runoff will eTentua11y oonoentrate hytro oerbons in ~rount atjaoent to Peoonio Bay. The tumpinl of 7,000 <<a1/tay (washdown eto.) of chlor- inatet water by marina use into the bay will oreate a tetriment to the marine ecololY. The laok of backup for the sewe~e treat- ment plant makes us nerTOUS about the efreots of a system break- town 80 olose to the bay. 4) Plaoint: unterlrount fuel storl!l,;e tanks Ure.ctly atjacent to the bay seems to inTite enTironmental tisaster in oase of a breaoh. Port of EIYPt end the Greenport Shipyart hl!lTe recently insta1let aboTe Iround diked tuel tanks to help miti~ate any tank ho1tinl failures. 5) The ReTerse Osmosis water system, uset at peak performanoe, will return 100,800 la1/day of 1.4 X normal salinity weter to the bay. A polioy of returninl water at ori~ina1 salinity 1eTe1s mi~t be the "best way to mitilate any eoolo~ioa1 alterations to the bay. 6) While this projeot inoorporates certain <<uide1ines ot the 44 N.Y.S. Coastal Zone Mana~ement Pollcles, there are many other Polloles that are not implemented and Infact are.Jln oOlltraTentlon with this projeot (#s 7,8,9,10,30 and 31). The olalm uslnt: polioy #4, that oommerolal flshin~ 11'111 be enhanoet by thls projeot, Is totally false. Quite frankly commerolal flshermeh wlll ~aln noth- In~ from this projeot ant oould lose muoh. The statement at the pUblio hearial for this DEIB that there are marinas from Montauk to HiTerheat similar in size, brinls one fact into focus. ETery marina oitet is in an area now unoertifiet and closed to shellfish- inl. .......... ....... . . . Southold Town Baymen's Assn. Inc. POST OFFICE BOX 523 GREENPORT, LONG ISLAND, N.Y. 11944 'to The Lon@; IS1an' Re,;iona1 P1annin,; Boar4 208 studT of, 1978, cono1uted that in or'er to maintain a hea1thT Peconic Bay estu- arine sTstem, all further .eTe1opment in shoreline ereas ahoul4 be prohibited or seTerely restrioted. To dete this messa@;e has been isnore' e~d we now heTe the Brown Tide to Tarify this stu'ias oono1usions. We conolude that this projeot should be cut way baok: in size. While a limite' amount ot expansion inoorporatiR~miti~atiR~ ea- Tiroame.ta1 techno1o';T cou14 be a benetit to the commuBitT, the scope of this p~oject tar exoeeds tha nea's an. eoolo~ioal lim- itations of the ~ew Sufto1k an' Cutoho<<ue Harbor resion. R~eotfull:v , t'~" :r~w~ SteTe Latson --- Q presi'ent seoratarT . . ~ ~. 8/~J ~l~;( ~~ /Yr.16'<< ~1 ~cI-fi-( A ~ c:/ ~ ~ ~~~ 47~j/ 4~~ ~ ~ ~~~ /7)~ct ~ ~~.-;, -;;1~7~ Jr>-L/ =~ tz../'. y~ I- CJ~ . t/~ R;wd ~.;2 J ~~/~ ~ - d,/A-u A1~ /II Y ~---7' //s-rfo . ----,-- r ~ '''" -. . Joseph A. McKay Box 254 New Suffolk. New York 11956 . RrCF\'..) r;y SGUTliGLU :U:;,. . ,2r,r.1) November 10, 1987 Southold Town Planning Board Town Hall Southold, NY 11971 Dear Members of the Boardl As a resident of New Suffolk (corner of Third & Main Streets) and as a former owner of the New Suffolk Emporium - (directly across from the proposed Marina Bay Club Project). I would like to comment on the DEIS submitted by Richard Carr/Shamrock Enter- prises for the Marina Bay Club project. Please consider the following as you review the DEIS yourselves. We currently are experiencing a life or death threat to the Peconic Bay in the form of the brown tide algae bloom. We are still far from knowing its cause but it's a reasonable bet that heavy development on or near the water may be a major factor. The fishing industry, upon which the welfare or well-being of most of us depends, has suffered severely. Until we have dealt successfully with this problem we cannot approve major development projects which so directly impact the Bay. The Marina Bay Club project will clearly have tremendous impact but the DEIS is vague on many points tht directly impact the Bay - sewage disposal systems, effects of transient boating slips, effects of chemicals used in boat maintenance, impact on surrounding land and waters from heavy bulkheading - among others. It simply doesn't make sense right now to approve this kind of project when we have the algae bloom problem totally unresolved. As this land is zoned for marine commercial use, some reasonable upgrade of the existing restaurant facility and improvement of the marina and beach should be approved but not the project as proposed. ~ , . . . . -2- At a recent meeting with members of the New Suffolk Civic Association, Mr. Carr made a case for the vastness of the proposed project on the ground that it was the only way he could achieve a proper return on his planned investment. Well, perhaps the property is overpriced to begin with!... and maybe the proper return could be achieved if the seller lowered his price realizing that his offering price is unrealistic based on the return which can be expected on a project of reasonable proportions. Why should the seller's arbitrary high price cause the Planning Board to approve a project whose scale guarantees a developer's desired return an his investors' money....??? at the cost of sacrificing the Bay and the fishing industry???!!! Let the seller curb his greed after ~ guarantee that the welfare of the residential and commercial fishing communities is properly served. You have a wonderful opportunity before you to come down on the side of good sense - common sense and political sense. Thank you very much for your consideration of my thoughts. trulY1/, L It MLJay .- · ~~/ 11) RECEIVED BY ~ SOUTHOLD TOillN mix'':'.'' on!PO . /0; /9 r7 II flhndll,!J [(.;i\i! / rroV rs---mh .tJ // C:;;~~~~~ ~~ ~~~~~ ~ /;few ~I ~_anv ~ ~ ~..z-~ ~ )f)~ ~_~/. ~~.~~~~.~ . AJ;d~~~ ~~ ~ ~ ~~~ .~~~~~~ ~~.d~74~ 'ft~j). ~~ ~~ ~~~~~.~ ~~~--4.~~~ ~~ ~I ~~.z:- ~ 1 ~~ .L..,U,~' ~ ~ ~~ 4e~ --~J / /Jf~ ~ ~ ~ ~2;i:- ~~~' 4~~ ~) d-~~ , . . . . . Southold. N.Y. 11971 (516) 765-1938 Planning Board Minutes November 9, 1987 The Southold Town Planning Board held a regular meeting on Monday, November 9, 1987 at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold at 7:30 p.m. Present were: Chairman Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Member William F. Mullen,Jr. Member G. Ritchie Latham, Jr. Member Richard G. Ward Member Renneth Edwards Town Planner Valerie Scopaz Executive Administrator Victor Lessard Administrative Assistant Diane M. Schultze * * * * * * * * * * * 7:30 p.m. Public hearing for public comment on the Draft Environmental Impact Statement for the site plan for Marina Bay Club located at New Suffolk, SCTM # 1000-117-8-18. Mr. Orlowski: Good evening, I would like to call this hearing to order. First order of business is a public hearing. We have proof of publication in the Long Island Traveler Watchman, we have proof of publication in the Suffolk Times signed by Christina Contento and notorized by Mary Degnan. We have a complete Draft Environmental Impact Statement and we are here tonight to hear comments for this. Please step up and give your name for the Secretary. Jack Fisher: My name is Jack Fisher and I live in New Suffolk. We have a number of things that we were concerned about and we have discussed it with Mr. Carr and his experts and he is attempting to address these concerns as the project develops. We will submit a written memorandum within the 10 commitment period. Once we have an opportunity to study the comments fo the various agencies. Firstly, as I said we are concerned with the size of the project the 450 seat restaurant. The traffic problems and parking problems that may adversaly effect the community. Raising the height of the site by three fee and affecting the surrounding property especially during the flooding period. WE feel that we have enough problems . . . . Planning Board Page 2 11/9/87 now, but if they raise that another three feet they will create more of a problem. We are a little concerned about exceeding the NY State Grant boundary. The reverse osmosis water system and by products and the other problems that may be entailed with that. The location of the sewage treatment system as well as the potential noise and light pollution. Tonight, Pat Calahan, who is also on our committee is here and he can comment with respect to more of the technical aspects of these problems. However, before Pat, I think Linda Fletcher who is president of the New Suffolk Civic Association has a few words. Linda Fletcher: Yes, my name is Linda Fletcher and I reside in New Suffolk and I'am president of the New Suffolk Civic Association. I concur with the remarks made by Jack who is a member of the monitering committee of the New Suffolk Civic Association. I would also like to add the following comments. In my study of Article 8 of the Environmental Conservation Law, I learned that the main purpose of any 'Draft Environmental Impact Statement is to investigate and then mitigate. When I compared these principals to the DEIS presentation of the Marina Bay Club, I find that the mitigation section of the document is inadequate. In my opinion, this inadequacy is caused by failure to thouroughly investigate possible problems in the preceeding sections. Particularly in regard to traffic, parking and scraping of the grade level, and the water supply and sewage treatment. In none of these areas have a worst case scenerio presented, thus reliving the applicant of any reason to mitigate. I would ask you to request a worst case scenerio for the areas and for the mitigating measures. Lastely, in the alternative section of the document there is no presentation of an alternative based upon reduced size and scope. In my opinion these alternative, this alternative should be given much consideration. Members of the New Sufolk Civic Association trust that you will give your best efforts in the review of this proposal. Thank you. Pat Calahan: 1m Pat Calahan of New Suffolk. Over the past, actually three years, Mr. Carr has made an effort to keep the community very posted on his activities and plans. We had an opportunity to sit down with him some time ago, gave him some preliminary comments and then more recently over the past month we have sat with him and attended our most recent Civic Association and most comments I would say are on the way to resolution. And, as Jack Fisher pointed out there are still some open issues. I would however like to bring out the items we have discussed to give you a sense of where we are with him. And, maybe add a little more perspective and dimension to our involvements on the report. One of our initial concerns in reading the DEIS was the magnitude of the materials to be removed. I think it talked about 27,000 cubic yards for the dredging and we weren't sure if that was dredging or mining. We explored that further with Mr. Carr's engineers who explained to us in terms of the grading . . . . Planning Board Page 3 11/9/87 plan. The grading and the quantity was reduced to about 18,000 yards after their refinement. But it still left us concern with respect raising the site. The site, which is currently at elevation 5 and 6 would be going up to elevation 8 and 9 and higher depending upon other needs. So, that continues an area of concern with us. It is a fairly large area of 3~ acres to be raised that amount, visually, we thought it would have impact, also from the point of view of flooding. A few other details, not details, comments. We talked with Mr. Carr concerning the boat storage building and the fact of would it be used for on-call use of boats. Which would, of course, impact on the traffic generation. I believe the folks who did the traffic study had indicated no generation due to the boat storage facility. Mr. Carr reaffirmed that with us that it is not going to be an on call facility and with respect to that building comment that came up as a result our Civic Association meetins was that if some effort could be made to move the building further inside the property too, we would appreciate that you take a look at it. I realize it probably fits the footprint of the earlier two buildings that were there, but if possible it would be a very positive thing to do. With respect to water supply and proposed waste system, we have brought to Mr. Carr's attention the fact that we thought that the RO system that he is proposing is probably going to be a large cost to him and probably a lot of headaches as he goes along with that type of system. And, suggested that he contact or perhaps review further some of the suggestions made by the Suffolk County Department of Health Services on the earlier condo proposals because we believe they either directly or alluded to going off site. Now, that may sound like an unusual comment to receive from a Civic Group usually, in essence, we normally have that other position. However, we see in that case, there will be a balance interms of meeting his needs and perhaps meeting the needs of the community since virtually all the property on First Street and maybe a portion of Second Street are in the flood zone and many, many people have brackish water so we will ask Mr. Carr if he will look at going off site in conjuncition with the County Health Services to see if in fact that will be feasible and if in fact there could be potable water supply made available to others in the community who might need it. Regarding the wastewater systems and again that relates to the surface elevations which was proposed, the property was proposed to be raised to we understand that a package treatment plant is recommended by the Health Department, Department of Health Services and of course, attended to that the problem is in order to get sufficient areas for the leaching fields. We have a concern there, I think it may beamixed blessing, but we are concerned with dealing with a high water table, tidal influence, I am personally familiar with the fact of the existence of a meadow matter of bog a few feet from the surface. The fact that it had been prior landfilled. Another words, we are concerned with the adequacy of even developing'a system for sufficient perculation. Perhaps, some alternative approaches could be looked at. Dependent with that waste system would be a building to house ~ . . . . Planing Board Page 4 11/9/87 the treatment plant. We were concerned with its proximity to First Street and appreciate his immediately recognizing that as a problem. He indicated to us that he would be looking at that to see if it could be moved further on the site, perhaps integrated with his building for boat storage. In other words, get away from the street recognizing that notwithstandi the purported high technilogy that will be employed in the system that there can be problems. He also assured that he would be putting emergency generators should there be power failures, obviously the problems that that would cause. We talked, Jack mentioned in passing, regarding noise and lights. We think the development is kind a challenge to his architects and designers to recognize our sensativity and our needs. I personally live rather close and many other of us do. New Suffolk is virtually at night, there is no light and no noise. So the thresholds are very low. So we again appreciate his giving alot of consideration to that in design, keeping the lights very subdued and to the maximum extent possible insulating the mechanical systems. Just two other points with respect to the overall site and its extent. The outer easterly boundary of the site would be roughly, like twice, as far to the east as what it is today, so you measure from the high water mark. We are uncertain as to what his rights are to these lands and as this whole process would progress which we could prove to him as a result of that, we would look forward to having similar restrictive covenants as what was placed in the original grant in order to insure that the next generation should they be faced with the same generation that they would have assurance that the property remain in the constant use. Lastly, I would just like to comment on we have cooperation we had recommendation that perhaps some folks from the community could work with him and his architects and other people from the historic point of view. We kind of felt that there was not enough attention as could be given to that. But, he was most agreeable to do that. I think that would be all the comments I have and I do hope that other folks and Mr. Carr would continue to offer their comments this evening. Thank you. John Hart: Mr. Chairman, I am John Hart of pelletreau and Pelletreau of Patchogue. We are the attorneys for Mr. Carr. What I would like to indicate to is what has already been indicated by Mr. Fisher, Ms. Fletcher and Mr. Calahan and that is that there has been a real spirit of cooperation here between Mr. Carr and the members of the community And, we are amenable to and continue to be amenable to the requests and issues of the community and will continue to work with them. There has been a spirit of cooperation and we hope that this spirit will continue. . . . . Planning Board Page 5 11/9/87 Tom Lowry: My name is Tom Lowry, I live in New Suffolk. I am going to key my comments to the DEIS pages for your convenience. Chapter One, page one, Mr. Carr, in his DEIS claims to own six acres more or less. That seems to indicate that there is no question in his mind concerning the validity of the Town or the State Grants. The late Town Attorney was uncertain as to the validity of the Town Grant and I have a letter from the NY State Department of State saying that the validity of that grant as far as he is concerned also is in question. I would say, also that on page A15 of the DEIS and this is a quote" there is apparent appropriation of public bottom for private use". I guess that is Mr. Emlita's comment, it is not attributed, but I believe that to be the case. Chapter One, page two, the number of slips proposed in phase two is given as 137. That seems to me to be very high and I would be more than happy if Mr. Carr would just be pleased with the number of slips that he is asking for in phase one which is, I think, 84. Chapter One, page six, one of the three access points to the project is directly North of the Town property at that point, by that I mean the launching ramp. It seems to me that an exit from the project at that point, coming out almost next to the launching ramp, which is right next to the entrance and exit to the public parking-lot for the beach means that there will be a hell of alot of traffic at the corner of Jackson and First and I would like to see some attention paid to redesigning that part of it. Chapter One, page seven, says that the choice of type of sewage is left open. I can understand thereason for that I don't think that anything ought to be considered as approved in any final way until a final choice of the type of plant is made. Chapter One, page eight, there is a mention of a minimal increase in traffic, that is a quote. Whereas on pages nine and ten of that Chapter One the figures are sited that amount to saying that really the increase in traffic is something on the order of 400%. That doesn't seem to me to be minimal. Page A4, there is no mention of the DEIS of the Trustees' question of commercial fisherman using the facility. I would like to raise the question of the possiblity if perhaps the bayman might get a preferential rate on the use of the facility. Page A15, I am sorry, I am wrong on that. Page A12, the developer mentioned the removal of 150 truckloads of topsoil from the site. I would like to think that he would consider, if possible, that with a little informal survey be made of New Suffolk's own needs perhaps some of those 150 truckloads might be well used in the hamlet itself. Thank you. Ronnie Wacker: My name is Ronnie Wacker and I represent the North Fork Environmental Council. I want to thank you for the opportunity to present our views on the Draft Environmental IMpact Statement of the proposed Marina Bay Club in New Suffolk. There can certainly be no argument that the present marina facility in New Suffolk can be improved. We have a few concerns, however, that the scale proposed may overwhelm this tiny . . . . Planning Board Page 6 11/9/87 fishing village. When the applicant states that the building height will be 28' will this be 28' above sea level or 28' added to the 10' elevation at first floor level proposed in compliance with flood plain regulations. If the latter, than residents who chose their homes for the superb view of the Bay there will face instead a 38' obstruction over 500' long. And, I wonder whether any thought has been given to what this three and a half story wall will look like from the water. We would like to see more analysis of the traffic impact on Saturday mornings between 8 and 10 when boatmen are heading to their boats and other people are heading out to yardsales or on errands. The same problem, if there is one, can be expected to arrise on Sunday, when people are going to church. Also, in the evening on Sunday, you have boatmen returning from the sail, people going out to dinner or coming home from the beach or starting a long drive back to the city. Weekend traffic problems, we feel, are not realistically addressed. The weekend traffic survey was limited to one Saturday this summer between 11 a.m. and 6 p.m. We feel this deserves more extensive study. How effective will the 39 leaching pools be in the recharge of stormwater into the ground. Have soil perculation tests be made to establish this. The applicant states that when storms produce more than 2n-of water per hour the excess runoff will be directed into the Bay. Now, road runoff has been determined to be the single most important contributor to pollution of our creeks and bays. This will bring additional nutrients into a Bay which is already suffering the effects of excessive nutrients which has experienced an algea bloom which has killed off the scallop crop for the last three years. Also, the reverse osmosis will pipe rejected water to an outfall nozzle 500' inthe bay, the DEIS says the increased salinity will have no impact on the Bay. The shell fish and fin fish are very sensative to even a slight change in water conditions. This deserves further study, in our opinion. In considering reverse osmosis, we would also like to be assured that the operators will be highly trained in this innovative system. Has it been used before in Peconic Bay waters. And, what has its performance been. In the matter of water pOllution, what will be the effect of treatment of bulkhead timber with 20 pounds of creaso of 2.5 pounds of preservative salt per cubic foot. Our last concern might be seen as biting the hand of a benefactor. The applicant suggests that the marina complex, after construction has been completed, will bring an average of 45 permanant jObs in phase one and as many as 65 - 70 jobs in phase two. This may normally be considered a boom to the area, but have you tried to hire people for non-skilled jObs recently. Other than boat mechanic, chef, engineers, the bulk of these jobs waiters, cleaners, maintenance workers will be filled by people without specific training. There isn't a supermarket, restaurant, or vineyard that isn't experiencing a problem with personal now. To some it would seem that the area would welcome an expanded marina project, but worries about being crushed to death in the embrace commercial octopus. Certainly, the project needs a more . . . . Planning Board Page 7 11/9/87 researched Environmental Impact Statement. Joan Robbins: My name is Joan Robbins, my husband, and I live in New Suffolk, our home is on the northeast corner of Third and Main Street. We would like to add our voices to the concerns that .have already expressed. One of our major concerns is of course the fresh water supply. That our supply not be diminished either in quantity or quality either by the water supply system of Marina Bay Club or by the waste disposal system, whatever choice is made in that area. Another one of our major concerns is the quality of the bay water, whatever quality is left. That that not be diminished by this project and thirdly, the traffic. Even now, with the marina operating in a very limited way, the Galley Ho in its present capacity King Street is not Main Street. There are individual drivers now who leave the vicinity of the Galley Ho and seem to be inclined to reach 90 miles an hour by the time they get to the Fifth Street light. Which is five very short blocks. With an expansion of this size, I think at the very least, the Town will be hearing from a lot more of us a lot more frequently. The size is unimaginable, but we hope some accomodation can be made in that regard. We hope to be able to get out of our driveway which entrances and exits on Main Street. And, we hope that New Suffolk remains-New Suffolk. Steve Latson: My name is Steve Latson and I am secretary of the bayman's association. One of the things we are opposed to in this project is that it seems that it is going to confiscate three acres of State bay bottom. If you figure out the numbers it comes out to a little over three acres. This area also is always a prime scallop area. Beyond that the dredging of 27,000 cubic yards is stated to be not significant but we do consider this significant. If you went into one of our local creeks and started dredging a channel you could dredge a channel 500 by 50 by 3 feet deep, that is quite a channel. The other question is suitability of the heavy metals for fill that this spoil is supposed to go for. When you read the heavy metal numbers you really have to question, they are pretty high, we think and we asked a consultant and he thought they were quite questionable. So, if you use it as fill, you are going to be jeopardizing the water table and also you are going to be saturating that ground with these metals, copper, arsenic, mercury, tin and they go on and on. The other thing is when you are dredging, you will be creating silt in the water and of course this will go out into the other parts of the Bay and this is not a good feature also. Another question is the 39 leaching pools. Gradually, if you have 85% coverage of the area and you have these enormous parking area, it seems that you will have an inordinate amount of hydrocarbon pollutant accumulating in the leaching pool area. In conjunction with the 17,000 gallons of treated wastewater, it seems like this area is going to be taking a really heavy dose of water, especially if you have some heavy rains. And, if the calculated perculation of half a foot to two feet, if it is only half a foot, I can really see some serious backing up of water in this area. . . . . Planning Board Page 8 11/9/ 87 If we have a wet season. As far as underground fuel storage goes, Port of 'Egypt and the Greenport Shipyard have just recently installed above ground diked fuel tanks. I have a feeling you are probably not allowed in next to a marine area to put underground tanks because if you do have a breach in the tanks, you will never known it until it is too late. The idea obviously is to contain it above ground and clean it up before it gets into the marine habitat. As far as the reverse osmosis goes, roughly if you use the system to its full capacity you will be pumping 1.4 times the normal base salinity back into the Bay, you will be pumping about 100,000 gallons a day and it comes out to somewhere about 37 million gallons a year. This is a real question mark, how fast does it disperse etc. and so forth. I don't think the report has adequately covered how fast it disperses. But, increased salinity basically increases, will bring an increase in preditors. If you go through the Peconic System, you get to Gardiner's Bay, the preditors jump up enormously because the salinity jumps enormously. Quite possiblity due to the lack of flushing in the peconics you may end up haveing excess salt in the Cutchogue Harbor area which is part of the critical habitat area hopefully. The last thing that I want to say, is as far as their citing 44 NY State Coastal Zone Management Policies, they did cite 7 of them, I-can cite 7 of them which would probably go against what they are saying. The real intent of these 44 policies and I'll read it briefly: It is the intention of the legislature that the preservation, enhancement and utilization of natural and manmade resources of the State's unique coastal area take place in a coordinated and comprehensive manner to insure the proper balance of natural resources to accomodate the needs of population growth and economic development. Accordingly it is the intention of this part of achieve a balance between economic development and preservation that will permit the beneficial use of coastal resources while preventing the loss of living marine resources to the water and wildlife, dimunition of open spaces or public access to waterfront, shoreline erosion, impairment of scenic beauty or permanent adverse changes to ecological systems. I think finally, what we feel is that the size and scope of this marina is way beyond something that won't permanently adverse, make adverse changes to the ecological system. Thank you. Bill Yetter: My name is Bill Yetter. I am a member of the New Suffolk Civic Association and I have my business in North Fork Shipyard which will be the Marina Bay Club. I am a yacht broker, I have been a yacht broker for 15 years, member of the association of marina industries and am familiar with and have visited everyother marina on peconic Bay, many of them in Conecticut, Rhode Island, and up as far as Newport. I have boated and traveled as a boatman. Thinking about the size of this project, I am thinking recently that, I can't recall the name, but Mr. Tooker has a marina up in Riverhead, which exits right into the Town of Riverhead, . . . . Planning Board Page 9 11/9/87 with well over 100 slips. Larry's Lighthouse Marina a little further East, has 170 slips in Aquebogue and 120 in South Jamesport with a total of 270. Coming along further I think that Brewer's who used to be Pierce has grown by quite some numbers coming out further and further into Sterling Harbor. .Corrigan's in Hampton Bays has 120 some odd slips, they have just enlarged on the canal. Star Marina has 127 on Lake Montauk coming out in to the lake. And, as far as I am concerned the size of this marina coming out into the Bay, not on creeks or canals or inland waters poses no hazards to navigation. And as far as the shell life, I really can't say, but it seems to be no more crucial there than in the creeks and inland waters of this part of the Bay and area. Thank you. Mr. Orlowski: Okay, are there any other comments. Mr. John Hart: Mr. Orlowski, and members of the Board. I think that basically there is no dispute between Mr. Carr and the members of the community. There is an economic engine that drives us and there is a certain size that will make it work. And, there is an identity of interest between the community and Mr. Carr. Mr. Carr wants to make it work, the community wants to make it work. We are interested in preserving the water supply and we are willing to talk to the community about that and about moving the source of water supply to the point that will use a reverse osmosis system to a point at some other location. We have a real identity of interest. There is an economic benefit that will accrue to the community. There is an economic benefit that will work for both parties. There will be an increase in jobs, and I think that working together we can have something that New Suffolk and the Town of Southold will be proud of and so far we have had a dialoge, I think, that has been effective. We hope to continue this dialogue and working together I think we can make it work. Mr. Orlowski: Any other comments. Patsy Rogers: My name is patsey Rogers, I live in New Suffolk and teach in the school there. I would, I've heard alot of talk in New Suffolk in the last few days about we must never be confrontational and how we must all cooperate and so on. And, I would only like to say that not all of use agree that this is a good project for New Sufolk. Not just because of the size, but at all. And, there are some people who strongly disagree. I feel that the committee has worked very hard to be fair and no confrontational and so on and that is marvelous but I don't think it is right to represent that all people in New Suffolk approve of this project and think it is a good idea, I am one who does not. Mr. Orlowski: Thank you any other comments? Hearing none. Any questions from the Board? Mr. Mullen? Mr. Mullen: I just have a comment. I would like to see the applicant and the Civic Association and the Environmental . . . . . . . . Planning Board Page 10 11/9/87 Council and anyone else get together and sit down and clarify some of these problems such as the parking, the lights, the water , the traffic and soon. It appears to me that you people want to work together and if you site down and come up with some of these answers it is going to make it much clearer and beneficial to everybody concerned in the future. And, that frankly, is what I am most concerned with, the future. Mr. Orlowski: Okay, Mr. Latham. Mr. Latham: I would echo Bill's statement that we can all work together on this. Mr. Orlwoski: Okay, Mr. Ward. Mr. Ward: I have a question. There was a comment made early on about a restaurant for 450. Is that a number that we heard. Because I don't see that anywhere on the plan and I would like a clarificiation on that. Mr. Hart: That is the second phase, Mr. Ward. And, I think that Mr. Carr has already agreed to diminish in size. Mr. Ward: What would that be diminished to? Mr. Hart: It would be reduced by 150. Mr. Ward: For a total of 300. Mr. Hart: Yes, but I mean that is using outside in the summer time to increase it to that amount. Mr. Orlowski: Mr. Edwards? Mr. Edwards: No, just that I think the points brought up will be well taken by this Board. Mr. Orlowski: I think there were some very good comments made here tonight. You have until November 19 to get any comments to the Board to be reviewed. Dave Emilita has been reviewing this DEIS and his comments will be forthcoming. And, I can tell you that we will take everything into consideration. Thank you for coming down and good night. I will declare this hearing closed. * * * * * * * * * * * * r - ......II.tlc.. LEGAL NOTICE STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT NOTICE OF COMPLETION OF DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT AND NOTICE OF HEARING Date: October 19, 1987 This notice is issued pursuant to Part 617 and Local Law No. 3.1978 of the implementing reg. ulations pertaining to Article 8 of the State Environmental Quality Review of the Environ. mental Conservation Law. TItle of Action: Site plan for "Marina Bay Club". Lead Agency: Southold Town Planning Board, Southald Town Hall, Southold, NY 11971 Description of Action: Re- storation of existing marina in two phases to include a restau- rant with meeting and confer- ~ room~, w/:(\ ~.b..i.~ ~...o", post office, retail and office uses, boat storage, and marina with permanent and transient slips. Location of Project: New Suffolk, Town of Southald, County of Suffolk, on the east side of First Street including Main Street, west of Cutchogue Harbor,SCTM '* 1000-117-8-18. Potential Environmental Impacts: Ground water pollu- tion, increased traffic, filling, dredging, disturbance to shellfish resources, alteration of scenic vistas, alteration of sur- face drainage patterns. Copies of the Draft Environ- mental Impact Statement may be obtained from JAC Planning Corp., Jean A. Celender, Presi- dent, Excelsior Building, Suite 210, One Overlook Avenue, Great Neck, NY 11021. A Draft Environmental Im- pact ..tement hI>.. o>een com- pleted and accepted for the prop- osed action described. This may be reviewed. at the address listed below. Comments on the Draft Environmental Impact State- ment are requested and will be accepted by the contact person until November 19,1987. A pub- lic hearing on the Draft EIS will be held on November 9, 1987 at 7:30 p.m. at the Southold Town Hall, Main Rmod, Southold, NY, 11971. Contact Person: Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman Southold Town Planning Board Town Hall Main Road, Southold, NY 11971 (516) 765-1938 1T022-5742 STATE OF NEW YORK ) ) 5S: COUNTY OF SUFFOLK ) Chri sti na c:ont':JntG-.-m---- of Greenport, in said County. being duly sworn. says that he/she is Principal Clerk of THE SUFFOLK TIMES, a Weekly Newspaper, published at Greenport. in the Town of Southold. County of Suffolk and State of New York. and that the Notice of which the annexed is a printed copy. has been regularly published in said Newspaper once each week for_L_~ . th 22 weeks successively. commencing on e day of nC"t-nhel:-__~__ 19~2-_ ChJ;;~tiLrJ:; Principal Clerk "- . . . , sworntob~em~thisd, ~,7 - ., u, l'~ 7 192_ -.D..c r '"' day of {) MARV K DEGNAN .L..4{_ '+-_._'~,:_--/;J iJ. / NYRil'! St,,' te, 01 Ne~.YOrk JAi i~''1ZUI~/~ {f~:'O~I~YJ> . . ( P. O. DraweJ: A Jamesport, NY 11947 October 24, 1987 Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman Southold Town Planning Board Main Road Southo1d, NY 11971 Dear Mr. Orlowski: By the Borad's resolution of October 19, 1987 accepting the Draft Environmental Impact Statement on Marina Bay Club, I would appreciate an appointment for a presubmission conference on the final version of this site plan at your earliest possible convenience. incere1~. V1JS11~. Henry . :a~,~;. HER:ml CC: Richard Carr John Hart, Esq. Jean Celender Sol Niego Jan Haeberle Walter Dunn Holzmacher, Murrell & McLendon RECEIVED BY SOUTHOLD TOWN PlANNING BOARD _OCT 27 1987 DATE L-~18lcudl ra lr0.r &iiVed~ J LEG A L NOT ICE STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT NOTICE OF COMPLETION OF DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT AND NOTICE OF HEARING Date: October 19, 1987 This notice is issued pursuant to "Part 617 and Local Law No. 3-1978 of the implementing regulations pertaining to Article 8 of the State Environmental Quality Review of the Environmental Conservation ilaw. Title of Action:, Site plan for "Marina Bay Club". Lead Agency: Southold Town Planning Board, Southold Town Hall, Southold, NY 11971 Description of Action: Restoration of existing marina in two phases to inciliude a restaurant with meeting and conference rooms, boat berthing area, post office, retail and office uses, boat storage"andci marina with permanen<ti and transient slips. Location of Proqect: New Suffolk, Town of Southold, County of Suffolk, on the east side of Firsh Street including Main Street, west of Cutchogue Harbor, SCTM # 1000-117-8-18, Potential Environmental Impacts: Ground water pollution, increased traffic, filling, dredgin; disturbance to shellfish resources, al terationc,of scenic vistas, alteration of surface drainage patterns. Copies of the Draft Environmental Impact Statement may be obtained from JAC Planning Corp., Jean A. Celender, President, Excelsior Building, Suite 210, One Overlook Avenue, Great':Neck, NY 11021. A Draft Environmental Impact Statement has been completed and accepted for the proposed action described. Thislmay be reviewed at the address listed below. Comments on the Draft EMvironmental Impact Statement are requested and will be accepted by the contact person until November 19, 1987. A public hearing on the Draft EIS will be held on November 9. 1987 at7:30 D.m. at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, NY,11971 Contact Person: Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman Southoilid Town Planning Board Town Hall Main Road, Southold, NY 11971 (516) 765-1938 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Please publish one time on October 22, 1987 and forward one) (1) affidavit of publication to the Southold Town Planning Board, Main Road, Southold, NY 11971 Copies to the following: Suffolk Times Long Island Travler Watchman Francis J. MUrphy, SUpervisor Town Clerk 1 s Bulletin';Board Henry Williams, DEC Cbmmissioner Conservation Advisory Council Army Corps of Engineers Department of Environmental Conservation at Stonybrook Suffolk County Planning Board Suffolk County Health Services Town Trustees John J. Hart, attorney for applicant 8~\k ILrites~m~ ~~~~taf7 ~e~lvecl~ . . LEG A L NOT ICE STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT NOTICE OF COMPLETION OF DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT AND NOTICE OF HEARING Date: October 19, 1987 This notice is issued pursuant to ::Part 617 and Local Law No. 3-1978 of the implementing regulations pertaining to Article 8 of the State Environmental Quality Review of the Environmental Conservation Law. Title of Action:; Site plan for "Marina Bay Club". Lead Agency: Southold Town Planning Board, Southold Town Hall, Southold, NY 11971 Description of Action: Restoration of existing marina in two phases to inciliude a restaurant with meeting and conference rooms, boat berthing area, post office, retail and office uses, boat storage" and,[ marina with permanent: and transient slips. Location of progect: New Suffolk, Town of Southold, County of Suffolk, on the east side of First Street including Main Street, west of Cutchogue Harbor, SCTM # 1000-117-8~18, <' Potential Environmental Impacts: Ground water pollution, increased traffic, filling, dredgin,;. disturbance to shellfish resources, alterationnof scenic vistas, alteration 6f sur~ace drainage patterns. c: Copies of the Draft Environmental Impact Statement may be obtained from JAC Planning Corp., Jean A. Celender, President, Excelsior Building, Suite 210, One Overlook Avenue, Great":Neck, NY 11021. A Draft Environmental Impact Statement has been completed and accepted for the proposed action described. This'imay be reviewed at the address listed below. Comments on the Draft Environmental Impact Statement are requested and will be accepted by the contact person until November 19, 1987. A public hearing on the Draft EIS will be held on November 9, 1987 at 7:30 p.m. at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, NY,11971 Contact Person: Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman South6ilid Town Planning Board Town Hall Main Road, Southold, NY 11971 (516) 765-1938 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Please publish one time on October 22, 1987 and forward one) (1) affidavit of publication to the Southold Town Planning Board, Main Road, Southold, NY 11971 Copies to the following: ~fOlk Times Long Island Travler Watchman Francis J. MUrphy, SUpervisor Town Clerk's Bulletin;;Board Henry Williams, DEC Commissioner Conservation Advisory Council Army Corps of Engineers Department of Environmental Conservation at Stonybrook Suffolk County Planning Board Suffolk County Health Services Town Trustees John J. Hart, attorney for applicant A 't Ill'T "'NO, NOTICE O~,VEARING ".;", Date: OctQ~~(19, 1987 ,-".. >> '4 ~;' This notice' . '\, . ued pursuant tQ Part 617 a . \xal Law NQ, 3-1978 Qf .:i plementing regulations:\' oIlS to Article 8 of the St vironmental Quality Rev of .the En- vironmental ' rvatiowLaw. Title of Acrl ite plan, for ., Marina Bay':, Lead A2enty:' thQld Town Planning Bo.IM SouthQld Town Hall. SOuthold, NY 11971. DescriPtion ,.~~f Action: Restoration. of ~sqng marina in two phas~~ include a restauranti'.'N.~~lnUting and con feTe ' ,~ " tw.,a: 'ber~ thing a",.. . i~ffi,ce,'_~~.',~ail and offltl:!j, .. stor'ige, and marina-wit eOland transient slips..,.~, .Deali '. ;','~ e: New Suffolk, 'Town -'of Southold, County of Suffolk, on the east side of FiW Street including Main St~est of Cutchogue Harbor :-1:" ',SCTM No. 1000-117-8.18, " Potential Environ'tnentallm. oaets: Ground water. pollution, increased traffic, filling, dredg- ing, disturbaIlce,-. to-shellfish resources, alte'ration of scenic vistas, alter~lo~ of surface drainage P~'" . :: Copies ot')illt;, 'ft En- vironmental ;(" . ' .', "tement may he obta, ." m, 'lAC Planning Cor aa" A. Celender, ptes' xCiisior Building, Su' , '(}one Overlook Avt " ., I Neck, N~ 16~;:; E~~tall:n- pact Statemellt:;'bas,beenc&tn- pleted and acce~for l~~ posed action '~bed.tJ1is may be reviewed:~'(he adMfss listed below. C, ,:,'.. tsol(Vte Draft Environ~ ' J~t Statement are reqiJ _, and'WijI be accepted by the < act J>t!ti son until Novembe['I~/l' puhlic hearing on tbe Drllftl3lll will be held on Nover.nber ;'~ l2J!1., at 7:30 p,m" at tllil Southold Town I I, M~' RCl...d, Sou,h11-;;,.'~'c.i ool- llnett ~'" o',:v: - . -.. .....,. O(low...,'....,' _ Jt~ Soutnold ',f~l". ' Pla.alil8 Board, 1'owa HaIl,II.taInRoad, Soulhold. NY 11971. (516) 765-1938, ", "'1'-10/22/87/<) . . COUNTY OF SUFFOLK STATE OF NEW YORK ss: Patricia Wood. being duly sworn, says that she is the Editor, of THE LONG ISLAND TRAVELER-WATCHMAN. a public newspaper printed at Southold, in Suffolk County; and that the notice of which the annexed is a printed copy, has been published in said Long Island Traveler-Watchman once each week for, , , , , ' , ' ., """" /. ' weeks successively, commencing on the day of '~---"" /',Lc, fC ------.- '--' -~ :.' 1""""", 19 C ',7, , \ \ l I / . . . . . . . __ )0....... , r'-...._. Sworn to before me Ihis . ' , , , , , , , , , , "e, , , day of ; . -~ 1- - e((-fl~::-... . . . . . . .. , 19 . . , , , , , /~;c/<"e-,_;.{~c, , , . Notary Public BARBARA FORBES Notary Public, State of 1'\e',\I ... ork \ f r~ '--" ;: y No. 4806846 , ;"'. ~.~fied in Suffolk County ,,~"_'} I" i "j 1........-COmmllunon Expires ,{~~.? 3/ 19 t n (\ T "," 1 (\ ','.:(1-' U-I.H-.-L. ;;1:::'~ .. ~,AiE,; . . LEG A L NOT ICE STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT NOTICE OF COMPLETION OF DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT AND NOTICE OF HEARING Date: October 19, 1987 This notice is issued pursuant to cPart 617 and Local Law No. 3-1978 of the implementing regulations pertaining to Article 8 of the State Environmenual Quality Review of the Environmental Conservation Law. Title of Action:. Site plan for "Marina Bay Club". Lead Agency: Southold Town Planning Board, Southold Town Hall, Southold, NY 11971 Description of Action: Restoration of existing marina in two phases to inciliude a restaurant with meeting and conference rooms, boat berthing area, post office, retail and office uses, boat storage, ,and,; marina with permanen<l! and transient slips. Location of Proqect: New Suffolk, Town of Southold, County of Suffolk, on the east side of Firsh Street including Main Street, west of Cutchogue Harbor, SCTM # 1000-117-8-18, Potential Environmental Impacts: Ground water pollution, increased traffic, filling, dredgi~ disturbance to shellfish resources, alterationnof scenic vistas, alteration of sur~ace drainage patterns. Copies of the Draft Environmental Impact Statement may be obtained from JAC Planning Corp., Jean A. Celender, President, Excelsior Building, Suite 210, One Overlook Avenue, Great"Neck, NY 11021. A Draft Environmental Impact Statement has been completed and accepted for the proposed action described. Thislmay be reviewed at the address listed below. Comments on the Draft Environmental Impact Statement are requested and will be accepted by the contact person until November 19, 1987. A public hearing on the Draft EIS will be held on November 9. 1987 at7:30 c.m. at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, NY,11971 Contact Person: Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman Southoilld Town Planning Board Town Hall Main Road, Southold, NY 11971 (516) 765-1938 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Please publish one time on October 22, 1987 and forward one! (1) affidavit of publication to the Southold Town Planning Board, Main Road, Southold, NY 11971 Copies to the following: Suffolk Times Long Island Travler Watchman Francis J. MUrphy, SUpervisor Town Clerk's Bulletin'iBoard Henry Williams, DEC Commissioner Conservation Advisory Council Army Corps of Engineers Department of Environmental Conservation at Stonybrook Suffolk County Planning Board Suffolk County Health Services Town Trustees John J. Hart, attorney for applicant ... . . S41 SZEPATOWSKI ASSOCIATES INC. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS S41 MEMORANDUM TO: Southold Town Planning Board FROM: David Emilita RE: Marina Bay Club DATE: 20 September 1987 This memo is to report that the above mentioned DEIS dated July 1987 and received by the Planning Board on 20 August 1987 has been reviewed by us against the Scoping Checklist for this project and it is our finding that said DEIS is adequate and sufficient to review under Chapter 44 of the Town of Southold and SEQR. SAI may wish to make more substantive comments on this project during the public comment period. RECEVEI) DY SOUTHOLh~f 11"\"i"~9g' DATE "- ."l"1lo !'<)~ 8e~ 23 Narragansett Ave. Jamestown, RI 02835 (401) 423-0430 Company _Add.... City ...-" qUESTIONS? CALL 800-238-5355 TOLL FREE. ( ) Depa,r\ment/FIoorNo. Compony ,'-,:r ~_~-'='.L "\J.' '-- .~\""l_ ,1- .~.'~",-, -~("' ..J.-~,~,.... \.,-'l;"')l\.."'n,'u.:- ~ . ,......E~-~~?U:-i.,.rv.:':1..~_-. ...:....,. ...IILt B...E. ....b3... 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Dellw.ynotlal8rth8n .~~day __EBr PMRfYl.~.____"",,,"ng ~~'::==--=-~d"'" ~AIR.~.~""'<l_<lay",nol _...._-~--II-.y_....."'_-.- ,,'..._Io_ourprimory__ SendIIr-.ortzesF_E<presslOdeI_IhOslll'ripmentwllhouloblalningadeliverysignatufeandsh8lltroemnil\l IIIIdhold_F_Expr9sslroman~cl8jITl!l,..._"linglherelrom ...... SigrIalure: l Feoeral Express Use Base Charges Declared Value Charge Origin Agent Charge Emp. No. Dole D Cash Received 0-_ 0-_ DCIlg.ToOel. DCIlg.ToHold .....Add.... ""'" City SIa18 Zip Total Charges -"" X Date/Time Received FedEx Employee Number PART #2041738900 FEC-S-750-25 REVISION DATE 7i86 PRINTED U,S.A NCRE ,.. ~ ~ is iI: i:; t! _J . . JAC PLANNING CORP. Excelsior Building, Suite 210, One Overlook Avenue, Great Neck, NY 11021 . 516-487-4549 September 3. 1987 , RECEIVED BY SGU1"UI.G 1G~m ~\}.""\"\1 ~GMUl ~ ~ 19B1 ~ E DA11'. Joseph Fenton Jackson Street New Suffolk. NY 11956 Re: &T.la.L ~&..~ ........z .......~. Dear Mr. Fenton: We acknowledge receipt of your request for a copy of the Draft Environmental Impact Statement for the Marina Bay Project. At this time we are not at liberty to release copies of the document for public distribution until it has been accepted by the Town as complete. After it has been reviewed and issued a Notice of Completion. we will gladly forward a copy to you for your review and New Suffolk Civic Association comments. If you have any question. please feel free to give me a call. Ver trUly yours. JAC PLAN~ ~~.,.n..' JAC:da cc: D. ..i11 ta R. Carr H. Raynor J. Hart. Esq. S. Niego ell. ~\l\jP ~i\o..vru 1 \lOJ-"o \~ -' I~ 0 \ \1-- .'. . . SOUTHOLD, NEW YORK STATEMENT OF ACCOUNT SEPTEMBER, 1987 Southo1d GElS July - September $ 4971.16 Marina Bay Club DElS -? '0 - ~ ($ 442.50 Gray Change of Zone $ 180.00 Junge Change of 30ne $ 180.00 TOTAL A.1>10UNT DUE = $ 5773.66 SAlltd. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS & PLANNERS SAI . "FILE ely RECEIVED BY SOUlIlOLD 10vm PlANNING. BOARD J,UG 2 0 b~7 DATE PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW 20 CHURCH STREET - BOX 110 PATCHOGUE, NEW YORK 11772 TEL. 516447-8900 DIRECT DIAL 447-8906 ROBERT 5 PELLETREAU (169H943) RICHARD A. SCHOENFELD (1950-1980) PETER V SNYDER JOHN J HART JOHN...!. ROE, III FREDERIC L. ATWOOD J. TIMOTHY SHEA BRUCE T WAL lACE KEVIN A SEAMAN VANESSA M. SHEEHAW BENJAMIN l. HERZWEIG ROBERT H. PElLETREAU TERRENCE P BUCKLEY OF' COUNSEL RUSSELL C BURCHERIO DOUGLAS.J LEROSE DENNIS D. O'DOHERTY, JR -ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA OALSO ADMITTED IN NEW JERSEY August 17. 1987 Honorable Francis J. Murphy Supervisor. Town of Southold Old Main Road Mattituck. New York 11952 Council Members: Honorable Jean W. Cochran P.O. Box 285 Southold. New York 11971 Honorable Raymond W. Edwards P.O. Box 511 FiShers Island. New York 06390 Honorable George L. Penny. IV P.O. Box 57 Greenport. New York 11944 Honorable James Schondebare P.O. Box 1018 Southold. New York 10971 Honorable Paul Stoutenburgh Skunk Lane Cutchogue. New York 11935 Bennett Orlowski. Jr. Planning Board Director Town of Southold Main Road Mattituck. New York 11952 Re: Marina Bay Club. New Suffolk. New York Dear Supervisor Murphy. Council Members and Mr. Orlowski: On behalf of our client. RiChard T. Carr. we are submitting the following in accordance with the Town's Draft Environmental . - D LD Y Southold, N.Y. 11971 (516) 765-1938 January 5, 1987 Mr. Henry E. Raynor, Jr. 320 Love Lane Mattituck, NY 11952 Re: Marina Bay Club Site Plan located at New Suffolk Dear Mr. Raynor: Enclosed are copies of correspondence from Linda Fletcher for the New Suffolk Civic Association and Robert Tasker, Town Attorney, with regard to the above mentioned proposal. We ask you to please note the Town Attorney's correspondence with respect to the underwater land purportedly conveyed by the Town Trustees. Mr. Tasker does not believe that any such grants are valid. We also ask that you take this into consideration in the development of the site plan proposal for the Marina Bay Club. - If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact our office. Very truly yours, ~-ti OLtw~)WcUl-o BENNETT ORLOWSKI, JR., CHAIRMAN SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD encs. cc: Linda Fletcher By Diane M. Schultze, Secretary . . . \ T 4 s January 5, 1987 \\'<\ ~~ ~~ 'V><C~ t^ \:z, . ~ COY- \ .,<v'<- ~~ Southold. N.Y. 11971 (516) 765-1938 Mr. Henry E. Raynor, 320 Love Lane Mattituck, NY 11952 Jr. Re: Marina Bay Club Site Plan located at New Suffolk Dear Mr. Raynor: Enclosed are copies of correspondence from Linda Fletcher for the New Suffolk Civic Association and Robert Tasker, Town Attorney, with regard to the above mentioned proposal. We ask you to please note the Town Attorney's correspondence with respect to the underwater land purportedly conveyed by the Town Trustees. Mr. Tasker does not believe that any such grants are valid. We also ask that you take this into consideration in the development of the site plan proposal for the Marina Bay Club. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact our office. Very truly yours, ~ OLzsw~)WcUl.o BENNETT ORLOWSKI, JR., CHAIRMAN SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD By Diane M. Schultze, Secretary }nes. ee: Linda Fletcher .. . ./~/' (-E,}J!w [~ \;$'- I . . 1 - I.. Ii f:.~;::~ ii ':.::=:;i " ,'-'I _ \ \ , .i~' '/.'"..~'~;.f,.,lr ,;/1/ fl"";.II.__ :rL i I-'!:: . I.f :!I~ 'j,'-.I 'J L::~J ' .;1 I..:: ! , .:...;, "J .':,1'1 -', '"".. : . i" , \L :"f1!!. . . f'\;:,o. :'.; "':('1', PLS , ." Ulll'CC l'~.snuc;p.r ,-,~~ :~Lner'8.1 ~c;rvlc,:n '-'ur.d r..;,"Ct,,":J:. ~"! i:J.....;.7.a "'. 122hZ 4 Aucust, 19.'36 .':CI~ Surf'll/.;. .\,\: !lY56' ., 1: '1 ;', '_,1 " . J J . Jd.L. '," , .. l' ~- (; C: II : ],J))O" j--J;ctcL.',., ~G of'1' vac:"tI',::05!,!S ~Jnn~; the Gr".!1C, '.C "J it ,'n)J" to rr,G 11'::'1in to ,'r'ite j'OU ecr-,c";'!;.'ng r-.y 1):,5["1u11, i:!(pt;.y f154~ ~,.,...., r ~'~J -." '.1 .rolF.'~ ' , '" "", ).';'.0, CO!l<.:cr'n..n;~ ,,"' cc' G.:lr~ -1)1-'n lJr"';":'::~..t'r Sl'ant:: UL "jO ,.', .1 :'>'1 .. ;'(~ 5.:1 ~:,=i'l S:.lff'oJ ~':. " I have J:lst ::',:-r ; ':CC-:::C L ::,.' G of' " ]cttc:!' f':'o:o: 0:'1' ::'c::n 'J ; :'c IDeal lC'ld c"',"-:y eo",cEl'lltll;; t;;,~ ::;;,[ S'.ll't'olk ::",,":';1 Fu.'k ,.2('. ,:pLy, !lnd I er",; ':: G. e.Jpy of' i. t :"<:.' yetd' pet'u:',,1. Ct "" ~;;'.t Er. T:1Z!:t;r"; l,,: ton:> are l.:E";';,;,G to r:y or1c:i:~"1 i I '..' :'1..:. ..f] 'UI, , . .J ~ '....:. 1'.:/. . f s ., . . Li.l.da c.nd I (.- .~ . '. :,.J.J' b~':ait h',::,::,pi ~..~ .r:.J-..~t ~(;r fr C~l J0U en : :r;c::. ":'>.:ly ~-o'.:~' -I r.-:::::.; :..0....[':/ '-". ~~... . "''i.l Lr -- . . , ~ OFFICE OF row:\' ATroR~ElrllJN 10 lq86 ROUEKT W. T.\SKTR TGW:\' OF SOU mOLD TELLPJlO'-:E (516) 477.1'00 To\\n .\Horney 425' 1.\1:-1 STRI:ET . P.O. BOX 697 GREE:-Il'ORT, L.L, :o.:EI\' YORK 11944 June 9, 1936 !.~r~. BCilJlctt Odo\'lski, Jr. I Ch.J.in"llan :.cuthold TO\'1I1 PI,:;~nin9 Board P . 'n l:all ;:~in f:cad :~')lItL,:;fd, New York 11971 Re: Site Plan of Mal"ina Bay Club C<:i:.r Mr. Odcr:sl<i: "ly your letter to me of June 3, 1986, you have' t,";;nsmitted to me the c' ~uments enume(;Jted the,'ein and rcc,u,"sted my opinion as to I':hether or not ',: '2 Planning Be" ,-d must include the knd contained withiil the underwater g.--nt and outside the bulkhead line in t:'le determination of lot "rea. . :.c to the grants, I do not believe th3t any pl"ior purportEd g,"ants made by ,,~ Southold To',','n Trustees to the :)rc:vious upland o\',';',e,'s to underwater I, "ds in Cutchogue Harbor and/OI' Peconic Bay are valid, siilce the courts of ,,;5 State, in the Case of Town of 5c'.,U:old v. Pa.-l<s III :-'il~c.456; 84 N.Y.S. ',8 (1~03); affi..."ed 90 N.Y.S. 1116;-annned183N.Y. 513, held that the . .th b)unca,"y of the And,"oss Patent is const,'ued to te the high water :: - 'k on the nol'lh side of Peconic ilnd Ga,'diners' Bays. The,'efore, the I' : 21",",'3 ter land 5 in ~aid bays belong to the Stnte of i'-~ cw Y ark, not the ..n of Southard, and only the State may n12ke gt-Cints Ulcrcdn. Ii', iisht of t\':o NeVI York cases, to wit: !3ic_~JT~_~..:-..ToY~~?_~9_ystet- Bay 32 NY C.,) (1973), and Ashman v. Edw<'.! ds :33 ,'\D ld 923 l:~u2), 'dlC fi,'st of which ,', ',ui,'cd that th~ slope of an ab;r-;dc:lcd ~~nd pit ;:nd the second of which I',: ~~uin~d that an ocean sz.nd dune, 21lhcugh such ar'~:,as may not be !:,,'Ic!Eble, must be included in dete,.mining the lot an"a. I am of the opinion ~!,;:.t the land embt-aced within the ~~(:'.'/ Yorl< ~.tflte unC:(.jI"".::Z!ter gj.ant, and ,"' S::!;12bly owned l?Y the up!2.nd o\'.'nt~l', mu~t b? inclu:_;..::d ;n (!: termining leJt (.lca. However, the fact that such lalld is included in ueL.:l'fniil:ng lot area, (::-,:2S not mr:Qn that such bnd is b~~!!dable. It aprp<ll-S to fall within the ('>,inition of a tidal wetlonds unde.- S2ction 97- 13 of the W,-,L1~nds Q,'dinnnce. ,.. >~l\ I 0' L'-'1 t,\ \t" \~O . . ~ '-2- of the Town of SouU-.old. It ;,lso probubly f,dls within th$ State Envi,'onmental Cons",.v;,tion Law ddi,dtion of tidal wetland and must be considered by the D.E.C. AI~o, Stction 100--119.2 B (Building setback from water bodiies) ,"equires that all buildings ~hall be set back not less than 75 feet f,'om all tidal waters, other thc;n I.ong !dalld Sound. Yours very truly, a ~/- -~/l~~ CJ~4 /(.'.1 /Y-;7"V' ROi3t:RT W. TASKER 1'\'l'T :cJa ...,... . ~.~~. . . " " .,. j '\;,.. '_~"IU"~'-..1 . ~ .... ~ "'-- . . JOHN c. EGAN COMMISSIONf:R STATE 01" NEW YORK MAYOR ERASTUS CORNING 2ND TOWER JAMES M. GALLAGHER DIRECTOR REAL PROPERTY PLANNING AND UTILIZATION GROUP EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENT OFFICE OF GENERAL SERVICES AL.BANY, N.Y. 12242 JOSEPH F. STEL.LATO DIRECTOR OF' DIVISION OF LAND UTILIZATION THE GOVERNOR NELSON A. ROCKEf'I:LL.ER EMPIRE STATE PLAZA November 3, 1986 Mr. Thomas Lowry Box 224 New Suffolk, New York 11956 RE: Ezra Young Grant Dear Mr. Lowry: Thank you for your patience in this matter, as it has taken us a considerable amount of time and effort to research the Ezra Young grant. As you are probably well aware, the Town of Southold was incorporated by patent under Governor Andros on Octobe'r 30, 1676. The Freeholders (inhabitants) were Isaac Arnold, John & Benjamin Young'l Joshiah and Barnabas Horton, Samuel Glover and Isaac Corry. . On April 3, 1838 the Commissioners of the Land Board issued a commerce grant to Ezra Young, Abiel Tuthill, Ira B. Tuthill and Isaac T. Tuthill. This grant contained a reservatiort providing that the grantee must erect a dock, wharf or fill in the lands for the purpose of commerce. Historically, we believe this was done and can probably be documented. By Chapter 615 of the Laws of 1893 the Legislature pas$ed an act to create a Board of Trustees in the Town of Southold to manage and dispose of the common lands and lands underwater belonging to the Town of Southhold. On November 13, 1897 the inhabitants (Trustees) of the Town of Southold granted to Jeremiah G. Tuthill and Orin T. Gctlldsmith an area of 1 313/1000 acres of land underwater, which submerged land grant encompassed the original grant plus some additional lands. The same protective covenants were included in that grant as those in the State grant. . 1 Historical and Statistical Gazetter of N.Y.S., R.P. Smith 1860. -' . . , , .. It is this writers opinion that the Trustee's did not have fee title to the submerged lands and that the grant issued in 1897 is void. The basis for this determination is reflected in the Town of Southold vs Parks 41 Misc 456; 84 NYS 1078 and affirmed 90 NYS 1116: affirmed 183 NY 513. The Southold case cited above states that the southerly boundary of the Town of Southold is the high water mark on the north side of Peconic and Gardiner Bays following the line of high water mark of Peconic Bay around to Red Creek. Based on this court's decision the State of New York had the sovereign right and authority to grant the lands underwater to the upland owner to 1838. It is our contention that this 1838 grant was a good grant and the fee passed from the State to the upland owner for the purpose of commerce, subject to those inalienable rights, that the State of New York retains in all water grants in its sovereign capacity. It is also assummed that the area in question was improved by the construction of docks and wharfs. To answer your questions concerning commerce as a use, it appears that a change in use from original dock and wharfage use to one of pleasure boat dockage and moorage is consistent. All of this information is subject to litigation and testing in the courts. I hope that this information has clarified your questions concerning the Ezra Young Grant. /Sincere}.y, c:l' ,') ~ i - ',r-/ 1 \LA.-:> ~~0 . Alan C. Bauder, P.L.S. Natural Resource Manager cam . T . LD Southold, N.Y. 11971 (516) 765-1938 TO: Southold Town Planning Board FROM: William F. Mullen, Jr. ;01'- G DATE: September 29,1986 RE: Insurance on Private Proposals I direct your attention to the memorandum issued on June 30, 1986 by the Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council and feel regarding the insurance requirements they are completely out of step with their process and ours too. We have no authority to tell anybody what insurance or surety they should carry unless it is involving protection of the Town which is not the case in this matter. We could, as a matter of fact, jepardize our position if we went that far and for some reason the coverages were not adequate and a loss should occur. We would be in a most embarrassing situation. I, therefore, agree completely with the memorandum of August 6 issued by pelletreau and Pelletreau. enc. . . NEW SUFFOLK CIVIC ASSOCIATION INC. POST OFFICE BOX 642 NEW S U F F 0 L K, N. Y. 1 1 9 .5 6 7 September, Mr. Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Southold Town Planning Board Town Hall, Main Road Southold, N.Y. 11971 1986 . SEP 10 1986 Dear Mr. Orlowski: Thank you for your 20 August letter c~ncerning our March inquiry regarding the size of the proposed development ~y the Marina Bay Club of the property formerly occupied by the North Fork Shipyard. What we had hoped to do in our letter was raise the question in your mind of whether or not the developer has any rights to the bay bottom east of the area included in the 18)8 New York State grant, specifically the bay bottom included in a grant by the Southold Trustees of 1897. Your letter to Mr. Tasker and your letter to us both focus on whether the bay bottom of the 18)8 State grant ought to be used to deter- mine lot area. That was not our concern. Our concern was, and continues to be, whether the upland owner has any rights at all to the bay bottom purportedly conveyed by the Trustees' grant. A quiOk look at the developer's site plans as revised for the ninth and the thirteenth times will show you that sometime in between those two drafts the area of the proposed marina was ext'ended out into the bay by another 150 feet, roughly two acres. To the best of our knowledge the thirteenth revision was never presented at a public meeting not was any attention directed towards the increased size of the development. Mr. Tasker's letter of 9 June, however, does address the question which you did not raise by saying, 'tthe underwater lands in said bays belong to the State of New York, not the Town of Southold, and only the State may make grants therein." Which is to say that the developer appears at least to want to appropriate public lands that belong to the people of this State. It seems appropriate, therefore, for your Board to remind Mr. Carr, the developer, of the Town Attorney'S opinion and that at least in Mr. Tasker's opinion the developer will sail in harm's way should be persist in his plans for a mega-development. I hope to hear from you soon concerning this matter. Sincerely yours, ~ ~cb.R/', P/LbUdwJ- Linda Fletcher for the New Suffolk Civic Association /.'V7'0. ~V~~ . T . LD Southold. N.Y. 11971 (516) 765-1938 August 20, 1986 Mr. Tom Lowry P.O. Box 224 New Suffolk, NY 11956 Re: Marina Bay Club Dear Mr. Lowry: In accordance with your request, enclosed herewith is a copy of our response, with enclosure, to Mr.Leary's correspondence of March 27, 1986. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact our office. Very truly yours, ~VLttt (JdnWA[uj ~CL(l/Y BENNETT ORLOWSKI, JR., CHAIRMAN SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD By Diane M. Schultze, Secretary enc. . T . LD Southold. N.Y. 11971 (516) 765-1938 August 20, 1986 Mr. Paul Leary New Suffolk Civic Association New Suffolk, NY 11956 Re: Marina Bay Club Dear Mr. Leary: We apologize for our delayed response to your correspondence of March 27, 1986. Enclosed, in answer to your inquiry, is a copy of correspondence from the Town Attorney. This correspondence indicates his opinion as to whether or not the Planning Board must include the land contained within the underwater grant in the determination of lot area. We hope this information is helpful to you. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact our office. Very truly yours, :&- fUWtL Ortow/llLc, CfrcL7tA/ BENNETT ORLOWSKI, J~., CHAIRMAN SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANN1NG BOARD By Diane M. Schultze, Secretary enc. " ~ , . . PETER V. SNYDER ..JOHN ..J. HART .JOHN ..1. ROE,II1 F"REOERIC L. ATWOOD .J. TIMOTHY SHEA BRUCE T. WALL.ACE KEVIN A. SEAMAN VANESSA M. SHEEHAN* BEN.JAMIN L. HERZWE1G PELLETREAU 8 PELLETREAU ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW 20 CHURCH STREET - BOX 110 PATCHOGUE. NEW YORK 11772 TEL. 516 475-5656 JWG 11 i~86 ROBERT S. PELLETREAU (1891-19.43) RICHARD A. SCHOENFELO (1950-1980) ROBERT H. PELLETREAU OF' COUNSEL *AL.SO AC.....ITTED IN F"LORIOA August 6, 1986 Southold Town Planning Board Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Gentlemen: We have received a copy of the Memorandum bearing date June 30, 1986 addressed to you by the Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council. We are concerned about the possibly discriminatory aspect of the questions raised by the Council concerning Liability Insurance Coverage. If the Town Planning Board involves itself with the extent of insurance coverage for each and every business in the Town of Southold which could possibly be sued by a user of its services, it would seem that the Town would greatly expand its responsibility beyond that imposed by law. It would also seem that it might then, by implication, become a party to every law suit commenced in the Town of Southold in the event the suing party alleged that the Town had failed to fulfill its obligation of insuring that the business carried sufficient and adequate liability insurance. -7---,' r ~ 9- , I \_ ,C i i - '';>7 l-J ,,[I . . ----- ..' '" - . . PELLETREAU a PELLETREAU Southold Town Planning Board The Conservation Advisory Council is asking the Town to open Pandora's Box and it seems that the Town should avoid extending its own liability by taking on another duty which it does not now have. Very truly yours, & PELLETREAU JJH:mw ccs: Mr. Richard Carr Mr. Henry Raynor C\~)jlf:\ <6l(,(g{, ,. . AUG 4 1986 -- . P. o. nra'~er A ,Jamesport, NY Julv 30, 1986 1l'!l47 , Cutchogue Fire District Commissioner New Suffolk Avenue Cutchogue, NY 11935 Dear Sirs: On May 6, 1986 we forwarded to you a site plan for the proposed improvements to the existing lle\~ Suffolk Shipyard property and requested vou review same to determine additional fire protection that you would recommend on this site. I would be free to meet with VOll at your earliest convenience in regard to this. Please contact me at 722-4990 or 298-8420. Sincerely, # Henry E. Raynor, Jr. HER:ml Enc. CC: Richard Carr John J. Hart, Esq. Jean Celender / Sol Niego Southold Town Planning Boa ...- ~~ · I tt 'P-r .. I:CO"51 LABORATORIES. INC. . ENVIRONMENTAL TESTING 377 SHEFFIELD AVE.. N. BABYLON. N.Y. 11703. (516) 422.5777 LAB NO.C861245/1 07/11/86 Land Use Co. PO Box 361 Wading River,NY 11792 ATTN: Glen Just SOURCE OF SAMPLE: Same as above COLLECTED BY: Client DATE COL'D:06/16/86 RECEIVED:06/17/86 SAMPLE: EP Extract of Sediment sample A ANALYTICAL Arsenic as As Barium as Ba Cadmium as Cd Chromium as Cr Lead as Pb Mercury as Hg Selenium as Se Silver as Ag PARAMETERS mg/L* mg/L* mg/L* mg/L* mg/L* mg/L* mg/L* lI,g/L* Lindane Endrin Methoxychlor Toxaphene 2,4-0 2,4,5-TP ug/L* ug/L* ug/L* . ug/L* ug/L* ug/L* cc::: ANALYTICAL PARAMETERS <0.005 0.65 <0.001 <0.02 0.029 <0.002 <0.005 <0.01 <0.25 <0.25 <0.5 <5.0 <0.3 <0.3 REMARKS: *Analysis performed on EP Extract according to USEPA EP Toxicity procedure (40 CFR Part 261-Appen.IIl. rn= 3769 01 ... J . ., S':'sr LABORATORIES, 'INC. . , " . ENVIRONMENTAL TESTING 377 SHEFFIELD AVE. . N. BABYLON, N.Y. 11703 . (516) 422.5777 LAB N0.C8612~5!1 1il7/11/86 , Land USE: Co. PO ao;; 361 ~adlng R,vsr.NY 11792 ATTN: Glen J~lst SOURCE OF SAMPLE: San,,,, as aDOye C(~LECTED 81: Cl,ent DATECOL'D:06/l6/86 RECEIVED:1il6/17/86 SAMPLE: EP Ehtract of Sedlment sample A (;i\~t;LY T I ChL ~t~st.:on 1 c as As Barium as E..:a CaOITlJ.ulTl as Cu ChrOITllt.Jrrl 3.S Cr' Lt;'2\u ~:. Pb Mercur'j dil H9 SelenIum as Se -... Silver =.s Ag ".\RAi"lETERS mg/L* frI9/L* n'9/Lit rr'9/l,." nlg /L * mg/L* 1Tl9/Lit< rrlgiL* Llna(;,ln~ Endrin Metr,o:,,,c.h lor rO;:i\phen~? 2.4-D 2.4,'j-TP ug/Ltt- ug/L" ug/L* l..tg/L1t' ug/Lit Lig I L* cc: ANALYTICAL PARAMETERS <~).I1IIZl'j 1Zl.65 <12I.l1Ilill <121."1':: Iil.Cl29 <~I.lQe2 <0. 00~) <1Zl.01 <.0.25 0.25 ':""eJ. ~.1 <5.0 <'111.3 '111.3 j . REMARKS: *Anal~~slS ~)8rformed orl EP Extract ac~ordinj3 to USEPA EP"ToXIClty procedure (40 CFR Part" 2bl-Apperj.II). rn:- 37o'i v,~Lb~---' " . S'l:sr LABORATORIES, INC. ENVIRONMENTAL TESTING " . 377 SHEFFIELD AVE.. N. BABY,LON, N.Y. 11703. (516) 42~-5777 . ' LAB NO.C861245/1 0711,1186 Land Use Co. PO BOl< 361 Wading River,NY 11792 ATTN: Glen Just SOURCE OF SAMPLE: Same as above COLLECTED BY: Client DATE COL'D:06/16/86 RECEIVED:06/17/86 SAMPLE: Sediment sample A ANALYTICAL PARAMETERS ANAL YTI CAL PARAMETERS Lindane ug/Kg <10 Cadmium as Cd mg/Kg 0.14 Heptachlor ug/Kg <10 Chromium as Cr rTlg/f\g 5.5 Aldrin ug/f\g <10 Copper as Cu mg/f\g 38 Heptachlor Epo:,:ide ug/f\g <10 Lead as Pb mg/f\g 33 o,p-DDE ug/f\g <10 Mercury as Hg mg/f\g 0.21 p,p-DDE ug/f\g <10 Nickel as Ni mg/f\g 4.2 Dieldrin ug/f\g <10 Selenium as Se mg/f\g 0.19 o,p-DDD ug/f\g <10 S i 1 ver as Ag mg/f\g 0.18 Endrin ug/f\g <10 Thall iUITl as Tl mg/Kg 0.50 o,p-DDT ug/f\g <10 Tin as Sn mg/f\g 1.0 p,p-DDD ug/Kg <10 Zinc as Zn mg/f\g 43 p,p-DDT ug/f(g <10 Antimony as Sb mg/f\g 1.6 Mirel< ug n<g <10 Methol<ychlor ug/f\g <20 Chlordane ug/f\g <40 TOl<aphene ug/f\g <2111111 Arochlor 111116 ug/Kg <21110 Arochlor 1221 ug/f\g <200 Arochlor 1232 ug/f\g <20111 Arochlor 1242 ug/f\g <20111 Arochlor 1248 ug/f\g <2111111 Arochlor 1254 ug/f\g <2111111 Aroct',lor 1260 ug/f\g <20111 Arsenic as As mg/f\g 4.2 Beryllium as Be mg/f\g 0.26 cc:: REMARf\S: DIR rn= 377111 . "S:Sr LABORATORIES, INC. . ENVIRONMENTAL TESTING 377 SHEFFIELD AVE. . N. BABYLON. N.Y. 11703 . (516) 422.5777 LAB NO. C861 ;::-.5 i 1 Land Use Co. PO Be,,, 301 WadIng Rlver,NY 11792 ATTN: Glen Just 'lJ7/11(S6 SOURCE OF SAMP(E: Same as above COLLECTED BY: CliHnt DATE COL'D:'lJ6i16/86 RECEIVED:06iI7/86 ANALYTICAL SAMPLE: Sedlmentsample A PARI:'~IETERS ug If\g Llg / t\9 ug/Kg ug/Kg Ltg/hg ug / t,q ug/hg ug/hg ug/hg ug/Kg Ug/~\g ug if,g u9/t\9 ug/hg ug/hg ug/hg ug/hg ug /f'.g ug/hg ug If<g Ltg /fig ug/hg ug/hg mg/h'3 m<J/tig Linaane Heptdcrllor Aldrln Heptachlor Epo"'de o,p-DDE ;:>,p-DDE Dleldrin 0, p-DDD En dr 1 n o,p-DDT p,p-DDD p,p-DDT M,re;., !'Iettlo;.,\! crt! or Ctllordane io:-~aprlene Arocl,lor l~lo ,\rocrdor 1221 Arocrdor 1232 Arocrdor L:42 I'<r.ochlor LC:48 At~ocnlo(' 1.:254 Arocrilor 120G Arsen 1 ': as ,..\s Beryllium as Be cc: REM"RhS: r'n::::' 377~ <1~ .: 1 III <112l <112l <Hi <l12l <11ll < 1 III <1121 <1121 <Hil <112l <112l <20 '1+(21 <2i110 <200 <200 <212l0 <20(21 <2(210 <200 <200 4.2 0.26 ANAL YT I CAL. Ca.dnlll..tlTl as Cd Chromium as Cr Copper as Cu Lead as Pb Mercuy'y as Hg Nlckel acs Ni SElenlum a.s Be Silver asAg Thall iurr, as Tl Tin as Sn Zlnc a~ 2n t:"ntiITlOT1lJ ~s Sb PARr\~IETERS . mg / r\ 9 mg/I\g n'19/hg mg /~\g mg/hg mgtkg mg/Kg mg/Kg mg /~\g mg If,,,, mg/hg rng/hg ~. 14 5.5 38 33 ~.21 .~j 4.2 ~.19 0.18 0.511l 1.~ 43 1.6 ! i I I .1 I I I I I I I I I I I I I 1 I I I [ I I 1 I I I I I I I I " . " . . Cl':sr LABORATORIES.INC, . ENVIRONMENTAL TESTING 377 SHEFFIELD AVE.. N. BABYLON, N.Y. 11703. (516) 422.5777 LAB NO.C861245/2 07/1 V86 Land Use Co. PO Box 361 Wading River,NY 11792 ATTN: Glen Just SOURCE OF SAMPLE: Same as above COLLECTED BY: Client DATE COL'D:06/16/86 RECEIVED:06/17/86 SAMPLE: EP Extract of Sediment sample B ANALYTICAL Arsenic as As Barium as Ba Cadrrdum as Cd Chromiurrl as Cr Lead as Pb Mercury as Hg Selenium as Se Silver as Ag PARAMETERS mg/L* mg/L* mg/L* mg/L* mg/L* mg/L* mg/L* mg/L* Lindane En dr in Methoxychlor Toxaphene 2,4-D 2,4,5-TP ug/L* ug/L* Llg/L* ug/L* ug/L* ug/L* cc: ANALYTICAL PARAMETERS 0..005 0.50 0.003 <0.02 0.017 <0.002 <0.005 <0.01 <0.25 <0.25 <0.5 <5.0 <0.3 <0.3 REMARKS: *Analysis performed on EP Extract according to USEPA EP Toxicity procedure (40 CFR Part 261-Appen.IIl, rn= 3771 J . Cl:sr LABORATORIES. INC. . ENVIRONMENTAL TESTING 377 SHEFFIELD AVE. . N. BABYLON, N.Y. 11703 . (516) 422.5777 LAB NO.C80124'5t2 11l7/1~/8o Li:tnd Use Co. PO Bm: 361 Waolng R,ver,NY 11792 ATTN:, Glen Jl.,lst SOURCE OF SAMPLE: Same as aooye COLLECTED BY: Client DATE COL'D:11l6/16/86.RECEIVED:l1lo/17/86 SAMPLE: EP Extract ofSedlment sample ~ ANAL YTI GAL AY'Serll c as As Bar lUrfl as E.a Cadmium as Cd Cl"lromiuffl as Cr Leaa a~~ Pb Mercur\> as Hg SelenlL~m d'S Sf2 Silver as Ag PARAMETERS mg/L* mg/L* mg/L* mq/L* mg/L* mg/L* mg/L* mg/L'" LlndQ\ne EndrlTl 1~"tr.o;:!,jc~'llol^ To:~aphene 2,4-0 2.4.5-TP L,g/L* uglL* ug/L* ugJL* ug/L* uglL* cc: ANAL YTI CAL PARAMETERS 0.iZl12l5 0.50 111.1111113 <1Il.0l 0.017 <12l.1Il0l <0.005 <0.01 <121.25 <0~2S <0.5 ':5. iZl <111.3 <0.3 REMAR~S' *Analwsls performed on EP Extract accordlng to USEPA EP TOX1Cltw procadure (40 CFR Part 261-Appen.III. rn:::: 3771 ~ , . . . ""g:sT LABORATORIES. INC. ENVIRONMENTAL TESTING 377 SHEFFIELD AVE. . N. BABYLON. N.Y. 11703 . (516) 422-5777 LAB NO.C861245/2 1217/1~/86 Land Use Co. PO Box 361 Wading River,NY 11792 ATTN: Glen Just SOURCE OF SAMPLE: Same as above COLLECTED BY: Client DATE COL'D:12I6/16/86 RECEIVED:12I6/17/86 SAMPLE: Sediment sample B ANALYTICAL PARAMETERS ANALYTICAL PARAMETERS Lindane ug/Kg <2. Cadmium as Cd mg/Kg 121.27 Heptachlor ug/l(g <2 Chromium as Cr mg/Kg 7.5 Aldrin ug/Kg <2 Copper as Cu mg/Kg 18 Heptachlor Epoxide ug/Kg <2 Lead as Pb IT,glKg 7121 o,p-DDE ug/Kg <2 Mercury as Hg mg/Kg 121.12 p,p-DDE ug/Kg <2 Nickel as Ni mg/Kg 5.8 Dieldrin ug/Kg <2 Selenium as Se mg/Kg 121.17 o,p-DDD ug/Kg <2 Silver as Ag mg/f(g 121.3121 Endrin ug/Kg <2 Thallium as Tl mg/Kg 121.1216 o,p-DDT ug/Kg <2 Tin as Sn mg/l(g 3.3 p,p-DDD ug/Kg <2 Zinc as Zn mg/Kg 42 p,p-DDT ug/l(g <2 Antimony as Sb mg/f(g 1.5 Mirex ug/Kg <2 Methoxychlor ug /f(g <4 Chlordane ug/Kg <8 Toxaphene ug/l(g <4121 Arochlor 112116 ug/Kg <4121 Arochlor 1221 ug/l(g <4121 Arochlor 1232 ug/Kg <4121 Arochlor 1242 ug/Kg <4121 Arochlor 1248 ug/l(g <4121 Arochlor 1254 ug/Kg <4121 Arochlor 126121 ug/l(g <4121 Arsenic as As mg/Kg 3.8 Beryllium as Be mg/Kg 121.14 ee: REMARKS: rn= 3772 . S:Sr LABORATORIES, INC. . ENVIRONMENTAL TESTING 377 SHEFFIELD AVE. . N. BABYlON. N.Y. 11703 . (516) 422.5777 LAP. NO.C86124S/2 Land Use Co. PO J?a" 361 Wading River,NY 11792 ATTN: Glen Just 07/11/86 SOURCE OF SAMPLE: Same as abaye COLLECTED BY: Client DATE C0L'D:06/16/86 RECEIVED:06/17/86 SAMPLE: Sediment sample B ANALYTICAL LIndane Hept"ctllor Aldrln Heptachlor Epoxlde o,p-DDE p,p-DDE Du~ldrin a,p-DDD Endrin a, p-Dfn p,p-DDD p,p-DOT I"'llre}: ~letho;;\Jchlar' CtolOY'dane TO;':':"'4..phena Arochlo," 1016 Arochlor 1221 Arachlar 1232 ArachIo,,' 1242 Aroc~ol or 12'+8 Aroc~, lor" 1254 Ar"ochlor" 1260 Arsen 1 C i\S ;"\5 Ber~111LII'Il as Be PARM1ETERS ug/!\g Ll9/f(9 .ug/Kg ug/hg ug/hg Llg/f\g ug/hg ug/hg LIg/Kg ug/hg U<j /I\g ug/hg ug/h.g L,g/hg llg/hg ugihg ug/f\g ug/hg ug/hg ugihg ugihg ugihg L.g/hg ITlg/hg mg/hg cc: REMI\RhS: r"n~ 377::: <:4 .<2. ".";;' <2 <::: ....-.. ..... <2 {'2 , ,,'.-. ......;;. ~ . . ~' "-:-.' <2 <4 <8 <40 <40 <40 <4111 <40 <40 <4111 (:40 3.8 0.14 ANALYTICAL Cadnnum i.1S Cd ChrOnliurfl as Cr Copper as Cu Lea.d as Pb Me:rcLlry as I-Ig Nickel as Ni Selenium as Se Sliver" as Ag Thallium as Tl Tin as Sn Zinc as Zn Antimony as Sb PARA~IETERS mg/Kg mg n\g . mg/Kg rr,g/f\g. fflg/K'3 mg i f\g rr,g/hg rrog /f\g n.g/h9 mg/hg rng/hg mE;) I Kg 0.27 7.5 18 7111 0.12 5.8 0. 17 iiJ.J0 121.06 3.3 42 1.5 . ~T LABORATORIES. INC. . ENVIRONMENTAL TESTING 377 SHEFFIELD AVE. . N. BABYLON, N.Y. 11703 . (516) 422.5777 LAB NO.C861245/3 1217/11/86 /- Land Use Co. PO Box 361 Wading River,NY 11792 ATTN: Glen Just SOURCE OF SAMPLE: Same as above COLLECTED BY: Client DATE COL'D:12I6/16/86 RECEIVED:12I6/17/86 SAMPLE: EP Extract of Sediment sample C ANALYTICAL Arsenic as. As Barium as Ba Cadmium as Cd Chromium as Cr Lead as Pb Merc;:ury as Hg Selenium as Se Silver as Ag PARAMETERS mg/L* mg/L* mg/L* mg/L* mg/L* mg/L* mg/L* IT,gIL* Lindane Endrin Methoxychlor Toxaphene 2,4-0 2,4,5-TP ug/L* ug/L* ug/L* ug/L* ug/L* ug/L* cc: ANALYTICAL PARAMETERS <121.1211215 121.6121 <121.1211211 <121.1212 121.1213121 <121.1211212 <121.1211215 <121.1211 <1ZJ.25 <0.25 <121.5 <5.121 <121.3 <121.3 REMARKS: *Analysis performed on EP Extract according to USEPA EP Toxicity procedure (4121 CFR Part 261-Appen.IIl. rn= 3773 DIRE ~ . "s:'sT LABORATORIES. INC. . ENVIRONMENTAL TESTING 377 SHEFFIELD AVE.. N. BABYLON, N.Y. 11703. (516) 422.5777 LAE l~(l. C861::45/3 07/11/86 L3.fld Use Co. PO Bo;, 361 Wadlng Rlver,NY 11792 ATTN: Glen Just SOURCE OF SAMPLE: 5am~ as above COLLECTED BY: Client DATE COL'D!1Il6/16/8o RECEIVED:1Il6/17/86 SAMPLE: EP Extract of Sedlment sample C ANALYT I CAL. ArserllC as As :Bar" iun. a~ P..a Cadrrllum as Cd Ch.l^OfrllUHI as Cr' Lead as Pb Mercur<,J as Hg St:lenlum as Se Silver d;i I~g PAf<Al'1ETEf<S mg/L* fT,g/L* ITag/L* mg/L* nlg/L~- mq/L* nlg/L..- mgiL,* Llndane End"ln Mf~thu:-~~chlor TQ~~apilene 2,4-[) 2,4,S-TP ~,g IL* uq/L* ug/L~- ug/L* Ll9/L* ug/L* cc: ANALYTICAL PARAMETERS <121.01115 (!I. bill <121. o III I ,,0.0;,;: 121.030 <Q).ll)((12 <121.12105 <121. III 1 <eJ.25 <0.2'j <0.5 <S.1Il <~J. 3 <1/).3 REJ1AR.(S: *t\nal~~l~ performed on EP Extract accor'olng to USEPA EP Toxiclty procedure (40 CFR Part 261-Appen.III. rn= 3773 . . "~T LABORATORIES. INC. ENVIRONMENTAL TESTING 377 SH~FFIELD AVE. . N. BABYLON. N.Y. 11703 . (516) 422.5777 LAB NO.C861245/3 07/11/86 Land Use Co. PO Box 361 Wading River,NY 11792 ATTN: Glen Just SOURCE OF SAMPLE: Same as abov,e COLLECTED BY: Client DATE COL'D:06/16/86 RECEIVED:06/17/86 SAMPLE: Sediment sample C ANALYTICAL PARAMETERS ANALYTICAL PARAMETERS Lindane ug/Kg -.., Cadmium as Cd mg/f(g 0.50 ,...... Heptachlor ug/f(g <2 Chromium as Cr mg/f(g 7.5 Aldrin ug/Kg <2 Copper as Cu mg/Kg 23 Heptachlor Epoxide ug/Kg <2 Lead as Pb mg/f(g 120 o,p-DDE ug/Kg <2 Mercury as Hg IT,glf(g 3.0 p,p-DDE ug/Kg <2 Nickel as Ni mg'/Kg 6.5 Dieldrin ug/Kg <2 Selenium as Se mg/f(g 0.14 o,p-DDD ug/Kg <2 Silver as Ag mg/Kg 0.30 Endrin ug/f(g <'~. Thallium as Tl mg/Kg 0.12 ~ o,p-DDT ug If(g <.~ Tin as Sn mg/f(g 3.0 ~ p,p-DDD ug/Kg <2 Zinc as Zn mg If(g 10 p,p-DDT ug If(g <2 Antimony as Sb mg/Kg 1.4 Mire}{ ug If(g <2 Methoxychlor ug/Kg <4 Chlordane ug/f(g <8 Toxaphene ug/Kg <40 Arochlor 1016 ug/Kg <40 Arochlor 1221 ug/f(g <40 Arochlor 1232 ug/Kg <40 Arochlor 1242 ug/Kg <40 Arochlor 1248 ug/Kg <40 Arochlor 1254 ug/f(g <40 Arochlor 1260 LI9/Kg <40 Arsenic as As mg/Kg 1.6 Beryllium as Be mg/Kg 0.28 cc: REMARKS: DIRE rn= 3774 ~r . LABORATORIES. INC. . ENVIRONMENTAL TESTING . 377 SHEFFIELD AVE. . N. BABYLON, N.Y. 11703 . (516) 422.5777 ~AB Nl:'. C86L:..S/3 07/11/86 Land Ust: Co. p(l Bo>: 361 Wading Rlver,NY 11792 AT TN : Glen Just SOURCE I)F S/',t1PLE: SalllP ~,s aboye COLLECTED BY: Client DATE COL'D:id6/16/86 RECEIVED:06/17/86 SAMPLE: Sedlment sample C ANALYTICAL LIndaOf! Heptachlor Aldrin HePtachlor Epo~:ide 0, po-ODE p,p-DDE Dielcrln o,p-DDD Enejl' 1 n o,p-DDT p,o-DDD p,p-DDI 11Ire;., Metho;;~chlor Chlordane TQ~:~,,\~Jhp-ne Arochlclr 1010 Arochlor 1221 ArOCl"olor 1232 Arochlor 1242 Arocl"llo,^ 12,<8 Ay'ocrd or 1254 Arocrj lCd' 126eJ ArSt~n 1 c aSi- As Et:-Y'\j 1 i 1 LuTI ~s Bli:' cc: fiEI1ARf\S: rn;:-:: 3774 PARA,'lETER'3 ug/t\<'J llg/f\g ug/hg Llg / ~<(.;J ug/I(g ug/hg ug/I\9 ug/hrj ug/h.g ug/iO\g ug/I\g Ll.g/hg u9/h\.] ue]/hg ug/i\CJ ug/hg ug/hg ug/hg ug/hg ug/hg ug / h Sol ug/hg Ltg/hg mg !f(g mg/h9 '". <2 "'--' ....":. "'. ~ <2 .' --' '..0:.. .~ <.2 .'-, .....:. <. :...~ <4 \8 '.4D <'40 <40 <..iZI <AiZI <'412) <412) <AiZI 1.6 11I.28 ANALYTICAL Cadmium as Cd ChrorrliuITl as Cr Copper as Cu Lead as Pb Mereu)"y as Hg NIckel as NI Sl;leniLtn, as 58 Silver as Ag . Thal1iurr, as Tl Tin as Sn Zinc as Zn Antimony as So PARAI'lETERS mg /I(g mg/f(g mg/hg rrlg/hg rr,g/hg rrlgiKg 1119/r\9 mg /I\g mg/t\g mg/K,. mg/hg 'T'9 1 K<;I 0.50 7.5 23 120 3."1 6.5 0. 14 0.3121 0.12 3. iii 10 1.4 . . cr:sr LABORATORIES, INC. . ENVIRONMENTAL TESTING 377 SHEFFIELD AVE.. N. BABYLON, N.Y. 11703. (516) 422.5777 LAB NO.C861245/4 11I7/11/86 Land Use Co. PO Box 361 Wading River,NY 11792 ATTN: Glen Just SOURCE OF SAMPLE: Same as above COLLECTED BY: Client DATE COL'D:1II6/16/86 RECEIVED:1II6/17/86 SAMPLE: EP Extract of Sediment sample 0 ANALYTICAL Arsenic as As Barium as Ba Cadmium as Cd Chromium as Cr Lead as Pb Mercury as Hg Selenium as Se Silver as Ag PARAMETERS mg/L* mg/L* mg/L* mg/L* mg/L* mg/L* mg/L* mg/L* Lindane Endrin Met ho:.,y ch 1 or Toxaphene 2,4-0 2,4,5-TP ug/L* ug/L* ug/L* ug/L* ug/L* ug/L* cc: ANALYTICAL PARAMETERS <:11I.11I11I5 <:11I.11I5 <:11I.11I11I1 <11I.11I2 <:11I.11I11I5 <11I.11I02 <11I.11I05 <11I.11I1 <11I.25 <0.25 <:0.5 <5.0 <:11I.25 <0.25 REMARKS: *Analysis performed on EP Extract according to USEPA EP Toxicity procedure (411I CFR Part 261-Appen.IIl. rn= 3775 DIRE , g:sr . . lABORATORIES. INC. ENVIRONMENTAL TESTING , 377 SHEFFIELD AVE. . N. BABYLON, N.Y. 11703 . (516) 422.5777 LAP. NO.C861245/4 07/11/86 Land U::-.e Co. PO Bo" 361 Wadlng Rlver,NY 11792 ATTN: Glen JU'iOt SOURCE OF SAMPLE: Same as above COLLECTED BY: Cllent DATE COL'D:06/16/86 RECEIVED~m6/17/86 SAMPLE: EP Extra~t of 5edlment sample D AI~f\L YT I CAL. Al"sen 1 c a"$ As Barium a.s Ba CddmiurTl -as Co ChrOmIu.m as Cr Lead as Pb . Mer cury as Hg Selenlum as Se Silver as A''l LIndane Endr!n Metrlo;.;~ch I CJi' TO,':.:aPilt~ne 2,4-D ..:;:, 4, ~j.-rp cc: PA:~Ai'IETERS mg/L~ mg/L* mg/L... mg/L* mg/L* ",g/L* mg/L'" III I; iL-* CIg/L* ,-,g/L'" ug/Lit u'l/L'" ug/Lit. ug/U. ANALYTICAL PARAMETERS <:0.0(.')5 <0.05 <:Q1.01Zl1 '0.02 <0.0Q15 <0.002 .'~0. 1Il05 <0.01 <:0.25 <.Il).. :.::5 <0.5 <5.0 (0.25 <0.25 REMARKS: *Analysls performed an EP E"tract accordlng to USEP.A EPTo><lClty pl'ocedUl'e (..Q1 CFFI Part 261-Appen.lli. rn~ 377:' 01 REC'":rR ~ . . g;;r LABORATORIES, INC. ENVIRONMENTAL TESTING 377 SHEFFIELD AVE. . N. BABYLON, N.Y. 11703 . (516) 422-5777 . LAB NO.C861245/4 07/11/86 Land Use Co. PO Box,361 Wading River,NY 11792 ATTN: Glen Just SOURCE OF SAMPLE: Same as above COLLECTED BY: Client DATE COL'D:06/16/86 RECEIVED:06/17/86 SAMPLE: Sediment sample 0 ANALYTICAL PARAMETERS ANALYTICAL PARAMETERS Lindane ug If(g <2 Cadmium as Cd mg/Kg 0.064 Heptachlor ug n(g <2 Chromium as Cr mg/f(g 0.60 Aldrin ug/Kg <2 Copper as Cu mg/f(g 7.0 Heptachlor Epo>:ide ug/Kg <2 Lead as Pb mglf(g 3.0 o,p-DDE ug/Kg <2 Mercury as Hg mg/Kg 0.005 p,p-DDE ug/f(g <2 Nickel as Ni mg/l(g 0.50 Dieldrin ug/Kg <2 Selenium as Se mg/hg <0.075 o,p-DDD ug/Kg <2 Silver as Ag mg n(g 0.10 'Endrin ug/hg <2 Thall ium as Tl mg/f(g 0.045 o,p-DDT ug/f(g <2 Tin as Sn mg/Kg 0.25 p,p-DDD ug/Kg <2 Zinc as Zn mg/Kg 4.1 p,p-DDT ug/Kg <2 Antimony as Sb mg/Kg 0.16 Mirex ug/Kg <2 Methoxychlor ug/Kg <4 Chlordane ug/f(g <8 To>:aphene ug/Kg <40 Arochlor 1016 Llg/Kg <40 Arochlor 1221 ug/Kg <40 Arochlor 1232 ug/Kg <40 Arochlor 1242 ug/hg <40 Arochlor 1248 Llg/I(g <40 Arochlor 1254 ug n(g <40 Arochlor 1260 ug/f(g <40 Arsenic as As mg II(g 0.16 Beryllium as Be mg/Kg 0.011 cc: REMARhS: rn= 3776 . g;;r . LABORATORIES. INC. . ENVIRONMENTAL TESTING 377 SHEFFIELD AVE. . N. BABYLON, N.Y. 11703 . (516) 422-5777 1...1'\.2. \lt~J. ,.2f3b124'S/Lt iIl7/11/86 i.....~ncl Use Co. PO Ho:.: 361 Wadlng R,ver,NY 11792 ArrN: Glen Just S(jURCL t)F SAI"iPLE: S"-1nle as abQve COLLECTED BY: Cllent DATE COL'D:06/16/86 RECEIVED:iIl6/17/86 SAi~PLE-.: Sediment sample D ANALYTICAL Linaa.ne Heptachlor Alarln Hepta\:nlor Epo~;lde 0, Fr-[JDE p, p'-DuE Dleldrln D,p-DDD Endrln D,p-DOT P, p"-DDD p,p-OuT M,n:;,: Metho;<uclollor Chlordane To,:a.phene Arochlor 1016 Aroctolor 12'21 (\roch lor 12:12 Arocr,lor' 12"'1..2 Arochlor 1248 Ar'ochlor 1254 Arocrllo.' 1 :':'612] Ar'sen 1 C as As Bt.!r'y lllulTl aL t.e cc: REM"'RhS: " ('fl-: 3770 PA;~i\METERS ug/hg ug/hg l\g/hg LIg/t<g ug/t<g I..lg If\g ut.:l/r\9 ug/hg ug/hg uglhg ug/hg lJ'::;J/hg ug I ~<g U'3/t<9 Llg/hg ug/hq U<J/hq Llg/hg ue,/hg ug/hg ug/hg ug/hg ug/hg mg/flg ntg/t\t] ~. ") <2 <.2 <::: .....' '...... -,- "a;.. <:2 <2 ~., "") -"") ,- <,:';: <4 <8 <A~ <4~ <A0 <40 <Ai2l <40 <40 <40 0.16 0.011 ANALYTICAL Cadml\.JfII ';:-\5 Cd Chromium .as Cr' Capper' as Cu Lead as Pb ME'Y'c\..lr~,j a.s Hg ~Hckelai5 Nl Seienlum as Be Silver as Ag Tt,alllum as Tl Tin as So Zinc as Zn AntImony i.,s Sb PARA~IETERS, Iff(J / ~\ 9 mg/hg mg/hg mq/hg ITlg/hg mg/hg mgi~\9 rr.g I hg mg/hq lTICj/hq n,g/flg mg/hg iil.12l64 iil.612l 7.12l, 3.i2l' 12l.0i2l5 0.50 <,0. i2l75 i2l. 1 ill li.'l.iIl45 iil.25 4.1 12).16 DIHE' / . Project No. B3G't'!lb~ Project Engr P. [). Assigned By To Hlwf. U I Date: Assigned J..I~ ec.TC4't Reviewed by UV. Date 7/lleb Required AsJtfJ LABORATORY TESTING ASSIGNMENT AND DATA SUMMARY . Identification Tests Strentrth Consol. Com action fl Gl Water Sieve Hyd Gs it ~ .f: T orvane Pocket Irype Test Peak Axial Method Mod. Std. Max - - jgqp a. Depth LL PL Penelr. E . ~nte~ 200 2/l Su qu cr,-Oj train Min 11. "4 ~> pef ~= "I.'; .J!~ It 'l6 'l6 Gl.<> a;, pef ;;:~ % 'l6 'l6 0.. .. tsf tsf !Sf 'l6 cB6/ :N~.I 3/.9 '7 ,86/ 2Y!., IY r.< JU cB6/ ~ f1o.~ t:.. C&I 'N~l ~1,.;z. I . . Indicates hold point L.600 161751 PARTICLE-SIZE DISTRIBUTION COBBLES GRAVEL COARSE FINE COARSE SAND MEDIUM FINE $IL T OR CLAY DIAMETER - U.S. STANDARD SIEVE SIZE UNIFIED SOIL CLASSifiCATION SYSTEM ;;; '" ~ e o '00 90 SO 0- % " 70 W "' > 60 '" " z 50 il " ~ 40 0- Z W u 30 IX w ~ ;to 10 0" 4" "5" 1..," 3/4" 38" 4 '0 20 40 60 100 200 ~ ps I I'\: ~ I " I " I r '" ...... I ~ .'iij 200 100 '0 1.0 ~1 GRAIN SIZE IN MILLIMETERS 0.01 0.001 I IX .J U U ~ CD CLASSIFICATION wt%' wL(%1 wpl%l BORING SAMPLE DEPTH lit! SYMBOL ~ i:>. > '" C W " w > w IX COBBLES GRAVEL COARSE FINE SAND COARSE MEDIUM U.S. STANDARD SIEVE SIZE FINE SILT OR CLAY DIAMETER - UNIFIED SOil CLASSIFICATION SYSTEM ~ ~ * > '" Z ~ " a: c 100 90 80 0- % " 70 W "' > 60 '" " z 50 il " ~ 40 !Z w u 30 IX w ~ 20 '0 0" 4" 3" 1%" 3/4" 38" i '0 20 40 60 '00 200 #j: I \\I I \ I \ Y t - - - I N<l... - t --. ..-...- -- .~ -. -- - - II 100 10 '.0 0.1 GRAIN SIZE IN MILLIMETERS 0.01 0.001 1 ~ c Z 0- U w ~ c a: ~ 200 o CLASSIFICATION wi"" WLI%' wpt%1 BORING SAMPLE DEPTH Uti SYMBOL i:>. ,. ' .. HYDROMETER TEST · Project Engineer ,;:: 0 Sample No. ~ ~~- /' , ",.D .~ ---..,. . Project No.:F'"3 C~~:3 , Baring No. Initial Visual Classification Pre oration o Oven drl d 0 Air dried Natural State 5011 oken up by: o Mortar + pestle O!her ~rslnv Agent:(I) tNaPO)'. al 4.ovmlLllor Other T~e Soaked: /2! ~ve'night OOther ASTM Dispersion Cup 8 Mixer used for one minute o Air Dlsper'ion device used for ~ minute o Olher De-foaming agent used 0 Yes , 0 Soaking Beaker No. ..r' Graduate No. Time Date hr: mln 6/17 "7, '/"7 Weight of 5011 Used in Test Ws Fa, Onn-d" ..'-up,Wllsm)'1 . WI' 0" 5011 Ism) Fo, W" 0' .., up Water Content o Natural o 1- r Wwet" Eat/mated Ws x (1+.) W.et= /.r-o II. 7:1-) w =' After Test-Actual Ws Conlalnor No. Ws' Can'aIn., + Dllpl.....' . D, Sall+ I . ) WSI Canlalnl' Ism) WSI D" SaU+ DIIPI'IOIIl . + tsm) Wel DI,pI.....1 + DISPERSING AGENT INaP~)6 Sadlum MllO-p/IOIphall Ws' 0', SaU, WI I,m) Ws' COII'oln.rts m) Walor Canlln'. w 1%) (J Hydrometer No.lfl'Y MenllcuICorrect/on,Cm= O.:J /3; 1f'-6 6h. f4 'J/ /5" Calculations: Average temperature used In colculollng telt, "C= ~).SV I 110 Jhls average used to calculate allpolnll " In Temperature column indicates where actual temperature used. not averaae Speel flc Gravity I G, . ,;;I, 711 0 Tested , Jir Assumed N'. 100 G" . <::'~/ W~21IG._I)IR-Rw)- I. J 6 , IR-Rw)ln % (2) (2) Wherll' Ws - W. x 100 + % Passing Sieve No. I 0 (1) R. I ReMllng - 111000 Remarks' O.~8lL~ Iii . ,I) I Je) 7 , iGwVT V~t -( (J i ~ Ix 100- / /)t;.9 ?cllm) , r~:.? ' '.. -_. ..' Set-up by Run by Token down by Sieved by Colculated by Reviewed by ~ I ' - . PARTICLt-SIZE:.ANALYSI' d ., /"2 (~y silving) ,J /'l Pro/eelNumbel'" :;;;:;; ~ :r.70......-' Projeel Engint't'1'" r ' Y lJor;n9 Nl/mbsr. Sa Ie 'l/mbor. .::l,I/.J - / /111'/;01 f.4'$1I01 CI(}6'$lllcol;on. ~ I C!.- --- ~ eo - SI10pe of 0 An9ulor 0$uoon9ulor 61'0111$ 0 AIIgulor 0 $uoollqulor ; jpeclmen Jar ample .r. Sieves- ole sompl, usetl iSltff ~ _ Sieyes' porllol sample us, tll aD/oinet/. Ov: mtl/ml: (0) 0 spIt/IeI', (6)0 ?uorlt'rli19 (c) reprt's,:;,"~/1~1fI o No/urol slole &11 <<fli,n up: o Air-dried ()ven . a'rleo' Soil sooted o RO{/fIo'eo' .06Vbrwna'ea' oRouno'etl 0 Suhrounded , 80901' Somple .$ievIs' WhOM $ompk uset! Sieves'porllol sample, /Jq melht1tf Sieves. or/t'tJ1 sam ., ~q mell1()O' No 0 ~s, o,,:{g~l1e~(}fIt!I"$ Of .._ DPulyerlllr(!t,1 !qlJl/40)/ty .- . . Sample wasnet! tJI7 ~ 2()() $;eye DNa ns Sompte PreparatIon Tolo/ IYelglll olles! SpecImen (Jslnq Alr.drleo' or Melhod 01 Som e Pre oro/t'on m,ler COIIlenl 0 No urol OAir.g'rlea' Conloiller NVI11Mr (Ji",r) . , '" ~ on DiNr , 01' s.t! r. m) IVIII (0II111ll1tr(9117) flol,rCMknl,u1f9m} ONo /")t WEIGHT OF TEST SPECIMEN -ro,.1 rill 'to L\.. Sieve Cvm. H'tl9111 Y.flfIIV 1017 Sompt, ,(/0. Relo;nedf9m) Stiy, :th'n4r,(/' J. 11/.;>' JI4- J/8" , t() -~o.3 Pon Mor/mum porliele s;re 11grt'01t'r II/on.!! Remoris S.II R"I1'Md .-1."" 1'/11111n11l --1"/ 'I tOO bf'L 0ql n. ~ 7l/?7: P-3, b ~ /;L 'J.t Sl/~ 1.71. o I i)~ I 0 - Sieve Cvm.J1q1 ?1i'ntr1A"" m/oJ: No, Relo;netl(9'fI) .-JIm ZfJ. . ~ '1ft, [I I __11m . \---1 13/8"1_ u__I____-=--:I-- ~ I ,... rm ~~_ .... . . 1___- -\- --_ 1J()_1 ]/./'__' I ~~ ~__I~j.j -~ L~===I~j .1!()()_171. ~ :l-IJp'~ lxf'!L1 7 '___--6-LJ - - l.u I Pon I 7J-J"J""_J _ .,-- __ J ______I_ ____ -'------ <;i'/-OD bu ~ Washo' bu"7J Sleverl bt/- ~-- ---Co/cuh/eo'ill . Rt'YIf'wed bll O~~~ " '-, . ;.,.' ~ ~ 'HYDROMETER TEST ~ Project Engineer A .D Sample No. ;Z ~ - ::> , '::'-c?.4..- ,. 1-0 x ~~'k Dote Set up ~ ~ (f 1 ~ t ' Depth ~ ~~ _ ~ .;;J'17-- wee L-I02 SamDle PreDaratlon e Oven dried e Air dried ~Natural State Soil broken up by: e Mortar + pulle <:..n e O!he~ ~r.inv Agent:(I) ~~oP0316 01 4.0grn/LII.. e Olher Time Soaked: ~Ov.rniQht 'dOth.r 1..In ASTM Oi.p.r.ion Cup a Mix.r r.... u.ed for on. minul. e Air Ol.p.rslan devlc. u.ed for _ mlnut. e Olher O..foomlng ag.nt used e V.. ta No Soaking B.aker No. /;') Graduat. No. '. ;: :1 .. " j " ". 'I -I 'j ! f\ I ,It ' ,I Project NO.Bo/3~ Boring No. Initial Vlsuol Closslfication Elap. Hyd. Tim.,6 t T.mp. R.adino. Imln) oc R III 0-- 1/2 'l1..I /("..1 I " /~,,, 2 . /},,1. </ II, 'i !/J II /I. ':q I~ ,),;15 I({., ~ 7 n.S 7,p (,;0 n.r . J /tf/' I 02,. ~ . ., ;; 'IS ~l>~ " l) / 3. .~,.. ~'11.. ,)..:I,~ ~. t:) 7J/'1 I ~ \1.-:' ,,::t2;s-' C,,9 Tim. . hr:mln Dol. C/i.7 7. J;).-- I Ww.t"E.t1mot.d w. x(l+w) ww.t= .~ xUo .:.1'0 ) w.....= ~r'7_. ,. After Test-Actual W. Contain.. No. R b wet Contoln.r 0 Dllp.._t . /OJ 0 2 Dr. sonolainl '1', 7' '" Wel Canloln.. lem) 7' ~ :el Dr, sono DIIPj;:" I J../I ~ 0 WlI Dilp......1 · roml I.f f;/ DISPERSING IIGENT INoP0316 . I Sodium U.........pha.. Wet Dr, Soli. w.C,m) 1/1. \, v )1 Hydrom.ter NO$,...J......M.nl.cu.Correction.Cm.. tJ, J Hyd. R.ading Olam.ter Total Sam. HZOJOI'rer. (0 %F,iner RwCt mm) N Or,lne Contain.. No. wet C;anla.'n..,' II;. San 'am' Wel Contain.. lem) Wet Dr, Soli lem) Water Content Conloln.. No. :~: ~~~!o}~~,. '!!.'.!~.:\~t,.!,,~:. Wet Container (e m) Wo..r Conltnt. w (%) :l.-'1 'J.:J;"" 3..,..... H :J.J 3.0 If) .11. ,/) Q/~ tl',n 7,.b e Natural e 41r- Drlod " t!"7~ ..? ~it'7' /) ~~" A.M~ t1 / 7() /Ji/r ...... >-, - ''') A4~r' ,0,0 ,; '7, " /~.) ;J, 7 n. . /t?, 1'.1 .,. 1 .L /_~ ~u. '-11 ,C'~ ; W.lght of Soil U.ed In' Telt _ W. Fa, O.on-d" HI-up,weCem) For Wo' or 101 up SI.vlno PerformedAfter Hyd. Test Complete Sieve ,.f;! y~. Analvsis Performed e NO Soil Relolned Alter Wa.hing, on No. 200 SI.v. Contoin.r No. ~;~ Con'oln.. . urv SoiP.iiil Wol. Conlolner 10m' 1....1. n,. son I.~' % Passino No. ZOO Slev. Si... No. C~~~\~~:'0~11. lr.~':,"':l,I. 2DO p.o eThl. averaoe u.ed to calculato allpoinl. ''../.. In Temperature column indicales where actual temll8rature used, not averaae (R-Rwlln % Specific Gravity. G.. d,/~ ~~est.d M'Allumed D.~!UL~ fir. iGwVT Sieved by . ,"1 il S- yzr . t ,0 .( 1/1'> Ix 100- /I~, 7/ (9m) '.. ~-- ,..... Taken down by Calculated by Reviewed by . r; I {i JI -:1 I, iI _, 1 C: ji, IJ' 6/~g w t'! -~. Calculation.: Averao. tomperoture u.ed ~J' In calculatlna tnt. ~;; "C = "-t u'i'l- -. iN'. 100 G.. I. } <f~ 1 W~21(GI'il(R-Rwl. r (I) 121 Where< Ws - Ws x 100 + % Passing Sieve No. (1) R - (Reeding - 1) 1000 Remarks' Set-up by n by . . PARTICLE -SIZ€:ANAL.YSIS / (by sieving) Pr{}J~e/ Number. ;r ~ e if 3" ~ PrO/ec/Engineer. /', J:) Boring NUI11Mr. / 5t1m. Ie Ihmbe ;;?, yCr-_..,;l-- /nll/ol ~$uol C/OtiS!. Ii II( ~ ~ .~ L./v,) , (6nS) [)ole t5' /'>-6 ~eF6 ~epl'1!f h < '< ' . SIIope or 6rolns , 'Or amp e ~~CI"'~n Sieves- ~ 016 somple used ~$Ietl -' ~ Siel'es - por/iol sample USe f oDloineo', bll" melhod: (0) 0 spltller (6)0 ~wrlerli19 fcJ. repre~nltJll~/n o Nalurol slole $qll /Jr6ken up: o Air-dried (Jyen -dried 50; s(}()Ked Sample PreparatIon Waler Conlenl o,v" uro o Air-tlrletl Conloiner IIvmkr t)li"~ ., '4 IJn'(j,~r~ Or S.,If. ) /III/I CtIIIlol'ner(91f1) ""I,rC4llklll.l/I(9m) '71 t.o.. - o An9ulor OSulJtJn9u/or oR/7lUId"d o~br<<lndea' o Angular 0 $uDtJngulor oRtJUno'eo' oSuDrounded l309tU. Sample ,SI'i!1'68' whole sompk usetl 5/~re$'porllo/ somp/e /Jf/ me/lll1o'_ S/~VIIS' orliol50tn >Ie 0 melhlXl_ D ~$ 1J'I'{DMi 'Orontlpes '4 .1 · D (Jlller. . DPulyerl16r1lill bollJl)) fA'" _ hr . . . StJmp/e waslled (Jf1 ONo 0#0 WEIGHT OF TEST SPECIMEN .rolol r", Po,liol r..1 , 'm n . Soli R,'oiMd , of/" wo#/llno) .,;. / t) , 2(l(J .79' IS )).-0.91:. /;L '/';'-J b .7/ II - D 117,,30 Siel'e Cllm 11'''9111 XfltW Toll $(;mpl. AlD. Re/oinedfrlm) 5im :lhnerAl' Sieve Cvm.H91 7.fil1ff /4t1>1 ,W'ol_~ AID. Relolnetll9111J ~"re rfl~r N' ---.- r 11/.1" 31''- 3/4. , 10 Pan 1___1 __I I" I '" I r~. '~4"1 "-'---I~=.. , ' I 1________1 ___ I/(J I 1__'---. Uf7._ 1..,2-'</ j , r---___~l 411 I ~lj~,~I--~--I~~_" ~ LP(J. I ~ B. ~(, 1____1 4-0,"1 1200 I ~.r: J...cl Ll...B..b.. Ipon 1 7'6. J'lJ I Inc , t:J- Marimllm por/iele sire 119reoler IlIon.I" IVosl1",r bll Rt'YII!Wi!',r bu p-- 11 5ievd bll ~ Co/cub/eo' btJ 7Yr '. . .- . '''"~ .' Project No. ?3 c::" 4t..?O Boring No. ' Initial Vlsuol Classification . HYDROMETER TEST Project Engineer ,r? D Sample No. ~ - :::;:, I ..- - - '"'t wee L-Io:I 4111 Dote Set up .12"~ ~ OePth(~ ,~ ./ . -"- .. Pre oration o aven drl d 0 Air dried Natural State Sail broken up by: o Mortar + plltle o O!her D!~rslnll Agenl:l I) ~NoP0316 01 4.oomlLllor o Other Time Soaked: vernight COlher Q..ASTM Dispersion Cup a Miller ultd for one minute o Air Disper.ion device. ultd for _ minute o Other De-foomlng agent ultd C Ves No Soaking Beaker No. Time Elap. hr:mln Time,6t (minI o 1/2 I 2 Graduate No. Hyd. Temp. Reading. .C R III Wet Or, Soli 1,..1 Water Content o Natural o - r .. Welgbt of Sail Used in Test Ws For O..n'd" "I'UP,WlI,,,,fl For W.I or tit up W,I Conlolner 1,"'1 Wolor Conl.nl, .1%1 DISPERSING AGENT INoP0316 Sodium MlIO-......"""I. Wwet=Estlmated W. ll(l+W) Wwet= /--= 1+ 7.s- ) W = After Test-Actual W. W,I Dr, Soil, w.I,III1 Conlolnor No. W,I Conlalnor + DI.p....... . 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No. CU"'UIOlln.~YI. lr~":,o~,I' R.taln.d m 200 "u Set.up by _ Run by I"O!hIS average used to calc~late allpo/nts " In Temperature column Indlcat.. where actual temoerature used. not averaae 0~81.1~1Zi . ,oOI'-r . sGwVT Specific Gravity, G." ..'..I~~Tesled .M A.sumed V~t .( /1/,r.l)x100. /,l~,'7'(gm) ~,'f' or Taken down by Sieved by -, .. ..- Calculated by Reviewed by \', . '. /.. PARTICLE: -SIZ€:ANALrSIS " . cL'. . /-z:: (by sieving) /) PrO/~cl Numbl!/". ~ c r.3"'o...- Projl!cIEngil1et1/". ,Po.Y 8D1'ing Num6er. ' ~/I! lIth1blJr. ~f4:) - ~ InI'Ilol /l/S(J(J/ CIOGSlllcoli ""d ~ - L./v.J '- (6nS) _. oRtNmo'/!/o' 0 $Ibrcuno'eo' oRouno'etl OSuhrou/7(tetl 13090'" Sample .Slews' whole sompM used h~ Shope 01 0 Angulor OSuIJon9uhr 6roins 0 Angulor 0 $uoongulor , r ampll! 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Soil Hllolnod '/ , .",/tln Sieve Cvm. Wt/'9111 ffil1N lINt. 'fAI!Sompl. Sitvt Cum. "91 r.nfltr IJ6'J m/ol_'" Alo. Rt/oinerltf/m) SaYl :t liiler AI' No. Rllolnerllqm) --Pi", rf~r H' J" I//''?' 3/4" ~ I OD 't 31''- ./ 4 ().;J 8 '" 'i, < Jl,r - / II) I.Ln 49,1.- , I, .,V'....... 21), lif.CJ 0 'fD,t. 1t1 'I) /9{}~ 5.! Pan flO i <1-r.9 r J. b lt1tJ IT. ::6r I, "3 or/lclt sire /1f)realer III(}n.1..1 2t1tJ jq.s:.9 I, ).0- Pan /'4'>' ~ 41; i , Ma.rimum p 'moris -/.//P /;u S/~veo' bl/ Colcub/eo' bu ~ RI!'VI~H'l!'d ho . . JUll 1986 TELEPHONE (516) 765-1892 BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 728 Southold, New York 11971 July 1, 1986 Mr. Bennett Orlowski, Chairman Southold Town Planning Board Town Hall Southold, New York 11971 Re: Marina Bay Club New Suffolk, New York Dear Mr. Orlowski: Please be advised that the following action was taken by the Board of Town Trustees at their regular meeting held on June 26, 1986 regarding the above captioned matter. RESOLVED that the Southold Town Trustees rescind their lead agency declaration adopted by resolution at the Trustee meeting held on June 24, 1985 on the application for the Marina Bay Club, New Suffolk, New York. By memorandum dated June 23, 1986 the issues and concerns of the Trustees have been transmitted to your office to be addressed in the D.E.I.S. submitted for this project. Very truly yours, 1~?~C/'@ Henry P. Smith, President Board of Town Trustees HPS:ip cc: Trustees D.E.C., Stony Brook Corp of Engineers Bldg. Dept. file (\17M ill \(( '0--..... . ....... . . JUll 1986 ~ TELEPHONE (516) 765-1801 Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 SOUTHOLD TOWN CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL June 30, 1986 To: Southold Town Planning Board From: Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council Re: Comments on Marina Bay Club DEIS scoping session General Comments: Significant increase in boat traffic, (by boat slip renters, transient customers; short term visitors for gas, restaurant facilities, and supplies) could signigicantly increase potential for boating accidents. Extent of coverage of Marina and Southold Town liability insurance should be addressed. Automobile traffic - Not only Marina customers, but general public (which has been assured access to Marina facilities) will increase potential for health and safety hazards. Alcoholic beverages and equipment such as travel lifts, etc. could also present potential problems. Extend of all insurance coverage and guarentee of coverage should be addressed and costs computed. How will facilities be managed - both land and water? How will traffic be controlled? Will there be twenty-four hour control on premises? Also address insurance coverage during the construction period.' ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS 1. Loading to the harbor and bay from gas, oil, human and other wastes. Storm run-off would also have a significant impact. Current loading should be measured and projected increases should be compared as to effect on fish and shellfish. 2. Effects of dredging could alter area. What will be the effect on the public launching ramp adjacent to site? . .. . ~ 3. Site is located in a flood plain area. to prevent them from overriding moorings in damaging area residences? How will boats be secured storm tides.and 4. What will the effects of storm tides be 6n waste facilities and water supplies? 5. What will the impact be on shallow ground water supply from usage by Marina Bay employees and customers? ., In view of current high costs of liability insurance for coverage of both water related and alcoholic beverage sales facilities it's important to insure that .resid"nts and vistors will have adequate protection from Marina Bay Club and Southold Town in the event of accidents. (Example: Current law suit against Town and boat operator as a result of an accident in Mattituck Creek last summer.) '- . T . D LD y Southold, N.Y. 11971 (516) 765-1938 MEMORANDUM TO: Victor Lessard FROM: Southold Town Planning Board DATE: June 26, 1986 RE: Scoping Sessions We thank you for taking interest in this and for your information, enclosed are copies of the correspondence between ourselves and the Trustees. We had notified them and their report was brought up at the scoping session. As in the past, we will continue to include them in all scoping sessions that may pertain to their jurisdiction. Thank you. cc: Town Board . . TOWN OF SOUTHOLD OFFICE OF BUILDING INSPECTOR P.O. BOX 728 TOWN HALL SOUTHOLD, N.Y. 11971 June 25, 1986 Southold Town Board Victor G. Lessard ~ Executive Administrator RE: Scoping Sessions At the last scoping session, called by the Southold Town Planning Board, the project cov- ered waterfront/or tidal wetlands. I feel o VI TEL. 765-1802 " in these sessions. The information that is we are remiss in not including the Town Trustees brought out during these sessions, could easily, be overlooked during an inspection, or at a trustee meeting. I feel that the scoping sessions are a very productive tool however we can improve on same. Thank you. VGL:hdv C\\'J'(<\ b\'\,~~\" - T . , . . LD Southold, N.Y. 11971 (516) 765-1938 SCOPING SESSION MINUTES MARINA BAY CLUB JUNE 23, 1986 A scoping session was held on June 23, 1986 at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold with the Town Planner at 10:30 a.m. to review the items needed for the Draft Environmental Impact Statement. Present were: Henry E. Raynor, Jr., agent Richard Carr, principal John J. Hart of pelletrau and Pelletrau, Attorney at Law Sol Niego, Architect Charles Bowman, Land Use Company Glenn Just, Land Use Company Sam McLendon, H2M David Emilita, Town Planner Councilman Paul Stoutenburgh (11:00 a.m.) Diane M. Schultze, Secretary to Planning Board Linda Fletcher Ronnie Wacker Gary Loesch Augusta Schneider Joseph Fenton Thomas Lowry * * * * * * * * Mr. Emilita: Just to put this into focus, Southold Town on June 9th took the following action. Whereas Richard Carr as heretofore applied to the Planning Board for a site plan for construction of a marina with retail store, restaurant, post office boat stores and docking facilities, located at Main Street, New Suffolk known as Marina Bay Club and now therefore be it resolved that pursuant to the New YOrk State Environmental Conservation Law, I won't cite them all exactly, the Town Planning Board as lead agency does hereby determine that the action is a Type 1 action and likely to have a significant effect on the environment. And that the applicant prepare a draft Environmental Impact statement, and that a scoping session be held June 23, at . . lO:30am which puts us here today. Mr. Hart, esq. I just want to comment on that a moment because as far as the developer is concerned, what we are doing is not doing anything different then continuing the uses that were there. So that, just so that we are on record, what we are saying basically is that what we are proposing is nothing more then a continuation and update of a preexisting use, some of which far exceeded what we proposed to do there. Mr. Emilita: O.K., never the less, that does not preclude there being a potential for an effect on the environment. We are not dealing with a legal issue here today, we are dealing with an environmental issue. Mr. Hart, esq. Again, I made my legal and we'll proceed to talk about that and to talk about the environmental issues involved. Mr. Emilita: I am going to use appendix A from the SEQR handbook as the outline of the impact statement and I will refer to Part 2 and Part 3 of the EIS long form, each of these will be available together with a transcription of the minutes at such time as Diana will be able to put it all together. O.K., Lets just start right in with the contents of this impact statement. O.K. , of course we'll need a cover sheet, we'll need a table of contents and summary. Okay, getting into the description of the proposed action, its purpose and need need to be addressed, not only from the objectives of the sponser, but as to how the project complies with and advances the Towns Master Plan and Zoning Ordinance. Okay, Location, the geographic boundaries of the project, and here we have an area of some, I will say confusion for lack of a better term in that we are involved in a Land Grant whos legal status is uncertain to some and I think we need to know exactly how that grant applies to the project and, just as an aside, I see some activity proposed on the plan dated July 26, 1984 outside of the land grant, and I think we need to clarify how that will be accomplished. Mr.Hart, esq. CAn I interrupt a minute? You say its legal uncertainty as to some, to whom? In other words, there I are two grants, theres a grant from the State, and a grant from the Town of Southold. Mr. Emilita: Thats not shown on this one. Mr. Hart, esq. grant from the Town State of New York. the area that was ... so what we've got is two grants, the of Southold goes beyond the grant from the And encompases an area which exceeds granted by the State. Mr. Emilita: That should show on the site plan. Mr. Hart, esq. : Okay, good. No problem with that. Again, to get back, you made a statement that there was some legal uncertainty as to some, and I was just wondering who? Can we identify... . . Mr. Emilita: Well, to anyone who looks at the site plan because it is not shown. Mr.Hart, esq. Okay, you mean the Southold grant. Mr. Emilita: The Planning Board has a question number one. Mr. Hart, esq.: Okay, well we'll show the Southold grant. Mr. Emilita: Okay Mr. Lowrey : I think that one of the problems arises from the fact that the 1820 grant and the 1897 grant both go from the high water mark as it was then, and there have been all sorts of changes and it is very difficult to tell exactly how far the trustees grant goes out, and it goes out 500 feet. Mr. Hart, esq.: Okay, so basically what you are talking then about is the starting point and wherethe historic high water was. Mr. Lowrey yes. Mr. Hart, esq: So we should be able to help you identify the historic high water as of the time of both grants. Mr. Carr Excuse me, you people familiar as to what the town grant looks like. Mr. Hart, esq: Yea, okay what we did was we have cross hatched an area which shows the Town grant and so what we will do is we will formalize that so that you have got the boundaries of both the state grant which you've got and the town grant. But your concern then is about historic high water as being the starting point at the times of the grant. Okay. Theres an interesting lost case about that, but.. where high water is.. Mr. Lowrey high water experts. Mr. Hart, esq: went to the court of appeals. Okay, Mr. Fenton Okay, I think a description by the surveyor general in 1830 clearly points out where that high water mark was. Mr. Hart, esq: yea, but then I think that you're talking about 1897 too. Mr. Lowrey Where it is not spelled out. Mr. Hart, esq. Yea, Okay. Mr. Emilita: Okay, on the projects design and layout I'll ask you to be guided by the items that are in the appendix A as far as the information that needs to be shown. Okay, under the next item, construction and operation, under construction this will be I think an area of concern as to its environmental . . Scoping Session Marina Bay Club Page 4 6/23/86 impact and I think we need to see some more detail, staging plans , although the plan, the site plan, says all construction one phase, I'm not sure what that means, does that mean one constuction year? And since some buildings and I guess at least the Post Office will remain untouched, it appears, some buildings will remain as is and there will be construction proceeding around on the site, there will be some dredging and the disposition of that dredge material on the site, or off the site, all of these things need to be detailed in a construction phasing plan and text. In other words from first stepping on the site with your first piece of equipment to planting the last forsythia. We need to know exactly what will happen. Mr. Carr Its phased only in a sense that certain things will be started before others. There will be no stopping and starting again. There will be a phase one, phase two. Depending upon how it lays out, the time of year, availability of men and materials,will be the function of what we start first. mr. Emilita: Okay, the next section under approvals there will be several agency approvals involved, not only the Towns planning Board and Trustees, and the Building Department but also county Health Department for water supply and sewage disposal, we'll probably need at least one DDC permit here. We will need one Department of State, New York State Department of State approval. Core of Engineers may be involved. Can't think of anyone else right now. Mr. Fenton : U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. I'd asked in the previous go round to comment. Mr. Bowman They work in hand with the Army Corps. Mr. Hart, esq.: I was going to say hasn't the Army Corps. taken the lead agency role so that the Corps. of Engineers is the lead agency and they take all those five other agencies under their hat and they say that we'll determine all that, you funnel it through us. Mr. Fenton comment with Management. The New York State Department of State they respect to what they call Harbor Coastal Zone Mr. Emilita: They have jurisdiction. Pardon me? Mr. Raynor: Probably questioning something like geographical areas, particular percent... ~ Mr. Fentoq:...analysis on this particular property so far as the original rezoning attempt would have impact and they highlighted the points that has to be addresses. Or that they suggested be addressed. And I think a reference to that file would help. . . Scoping Session Marina Bay Club Page 5 6/23/86 Mr. EMilita: Okay, moving in to the section entitled Environmental Setting, which is a basic description of the site. The first section is headed, Geology, and here we are interested in the subsurface conditions on the site, the capability of supporting the structures, and of course the health department will want to know the ability of the subsurface materials to handle the effluent from the sewage treatment plant which I see is proposed. Okay, surface soil conditions should be described although I see most of the site is apparently going to be paved over. Topography should be shown in a existing and proposed manner inorder to see how the drainage will be handled. The next section is entitled Water Resources, a description of the ground water conditions is going to be important, ground water, the impact on ground water, as a subject area will be important. This project may have some significant impact on ground water. I think a close attention to the items in Appendix A is necessary in this case. Does anybody else want to address ground water while we are on it? Mr. McLendon :Dave we will be looking at the alternative the most likely plan will be a desalinezation or RO type system which will have the least effect on ground water conditions, and obviously its effect will also be Mr. Fenton In conection with that theres a possibility of addressing what happens to the salinity that the desalinezation creates as a byproduct and how that can be handled, I think that was a substantial issue in the previous go round. Mr. Hart, esq, As an aside Joe, on channel 13 last night, I don't know whether you saw it, they had a thing on the desalinezation plant in the Arabian Gulf, and apparently there is no impact at which surprised the hell out of me, but there is no impact, and they have mastered this salinezation plant. I don't know what kinds of studies have been done but apparently there has been an enormous work done. Audience :How would they get their water? Mr.Hart, e8q~They inject it back into the ground or put it back into th, Mrs. Marriner: Well, the Peconic estuary is not exactly sea the Arabian Sea. Mr. t'enton WeLL, if you are takJ.ng saLt out of water, brackish water or whatever, you gotta put it some place. If you put it back into the sea, it does have an effect on clams and shellfish and what have you, and I think that has to be addresses. The Fish and Wildlife Service was concerned about it, they have a motto that dilution is not a solution. So I think we have to be concerned about it. Mr. Emilita: Okay, that brings us into the next subject area, surface water. We're primarily concerned here about the conditions of the bay and as was mentioned, how the construction and . . . Scoping Session Marina Bay Club Page 6 6/23/86 operation of this entire facility will effect the bay. The next section on air resourses Mr. Hart, esq.: Again may I just ask, has there been anything like this done before with respect to this operation? Because there isn't any change. In other words, is there any kind of background, because, I can understand what Joe was saying before with respect to the proposed use which had to do with condominiums, but what is proposed here is not to change the operation or the use of this project. In other words its going to be used the way its been used for a 100, well since Holland was there anyway. Mrs. Fletcher change. What about the magnitude? Tha~s a significant Mr. Hart, esq.: In other words basically then what your talking about, and I gather at some point in time there was a use of this project that far exceeds the use that will be proposed. But, what you're saying now is that as it exists at this moment in time, or is there some historic starting point? Mrs. Marriner: Most vessels in the past were sail powered, we have a little different situation today. Mr. Raynor: : Ten years ago there were over a hundred boats stored in the North Fork Shipyard. Mr. Raynor So the operation magnitude between the shipyard and the proposal Mr. Hart, esq. : has really gone down in scope. So that really what we are talking about is not building submarines there or storing a great many gasoline or diesel powered vessels, but we're talking about a use that really isn't as extensive as it once was. Mr. Fletcher Its not the only place on the bay thats use is being expanded. In other words, maybe when they were building submarines there very little else was going on around peconic Bay, do you understand what I'm saying? Mr. Hart, esq.: I understand what you're saying, but what I'm saying is that this particular developer isn't responsible for anything else, in other words, he has a concern about his use, of his property and so therefore, what we are proposing is not any more than was there within recent memory. And as a matter of fact, as last year. Mr. Fenton I don't think that theres any question that from 1840 on there were no eqvironmental impact statements required. To the extent that~is required now to get a site plan approved I guess you have to do it whether you like it or not. . . Scoping Session Marina Bay Club Page 7 6/23/86 Mr. Raynor a problem. I'm perfectly willing to do it, thats not Mrs.Marriner The Conservation Advisory Council... Mr. Fenton The point that you make is well taken, that the proposed is nothing different, there should be no problem. Mrs. Marriner: Well we'~~._also concerned with the cummulative effect on the bay and we~o look at this in the context of the entire estuary system. Mr. Hart : Okay, my point here is that we came first and so that when you talk about that, that what we are saying is that historically, if you're concerned about other uses along the bay front this use was here first. and i just want that to be kept in mind by whatever body reviews this so that if there is a question of impact and its as you say cummulative, then this particular site has an historic use. Mr. Emilita: Okay, again, the items which I'm addressing here are under the general heading of environmental setting so we are describing what is to be shown with the idea of why do we need it to be shown. In other words why do we need a descripti of ground water, it does mean we anticipate an impact on ground water. The next section on air resources, we don't need a detailed description of the air resources because we don't expect that there will be a major impact on air as a result of the project. We haven't really explored what the likely impacts of this project will be. Okay, terrestrial and aquatic ecology, there are three major sections to be described here, one on vegetation, one on fish and wildlife, and one on wetlands. The existing site has been pretty much developed and disturbed and so the section on vegetation could take that into account. However, the items should of course be addressed. On the fish and wildlife, we're concerned about primarily the wildlife conditions in the bay itself and what is currently living there that may be disturbed during the construction. The dredging and construction of the piers and pilings. WEtlands, I don't know to the extent that there are any wetlands on this site, but that of course should be addressed. Mrs. Marriner There are adjacent wetlands down in the old Broadwaters cove area the littoral drift in that direction and t~t is probably something that should be addressed. They are about to be designated a critical environmental area. Or, have been by the Town and is on the state list. I don't know whether it hasebeen approved yet. Mr. Emilita: Not to my knowledge. Not to my knowledge, the town has done any action on that. Mr. Raynor Dave, can you substantiate that littoral drift . . Scoping Session Marina Bay Club page 8 6/23/86 goes across New Suffolk to Broadwaters Cove? Mrs. Marriner: Well, theres a swirling effect and theres a tidal flush in and out. Mr. Emilita :Could someone point it out on the map? Mr. Raynor The general area here, this is Broadwaters cove. Mr. Hart, esq: So its inland in the... Mr. Raynor Theres flushing action with the tides. Mr. Emilita I would think that, addressing the situation and the general harbor area,.. Mrs. Marriner: Well your harbor sets in that general direction there, and flows in and out of your creek. Mr. Emilita: I don't know to what extent theres a direct link between what happens in New Suffolk and Broadwater Cove. Mrs. Marriner: There haven't been that many boats in Cutchogue Harbor to determine in recent years what will, what the future ... Mr. Emilita: Specifically, what do you want to see addressed? Mrs. Marriner: The impact of a larger amount of boats, and I'm not just talking about boats berthing here, but you're going to have transient boats attracted by restaurants, marinas, facilities, etc. Mr. Emilita: Do you mean disturbance of the bottom? Or discharge from the vessels ? Mrs. Marriner:Discharge from the vessels. Oil spills... Mr. Raynor : If thats the case, then its building thats been going on in this area Mrs. Marrine. All right, but its once again the CAC looks at the cummulative effects. Mr. Raynor Okay, but I can't see somebody coming from here to go up into there. Mrs. Fletcher The water goes in there.. Mr. Raynor The water does not go in there. Mr. Emilita: Well let me suggest that if we can, if the . . Scoping Session Marina Bay Club Page 9 6/23/86 applicant can show in the impact statement that there will be no significant impact on the environment in the New Suffolk vicinity I would assume that that would similarly be the case in Broadwaters. Mr. Bowman We need a little bit of guidence on how far upfield we're going to have to go to inventory the wetlands, we could take this up to Nassua Point too, and all the creeks and ponds in all of little Peconic Bay and back the other way. YOu have to give use some sort of perimeters on how far we're going to take this upfield. Broadwater cove, it seems to me that all the traffic I've ever seen is the people who live up there, going in there. You don't get transient, commercial type people going in there. That you would have over at Marina Bay Club. Mr. Emilita: Lets be resonable and consider New Suffolk as an entity in itself and I will not expect that you have to inventory wetlands up and down the whole shoreline, but rather in the immediate vicinity. Mr. Fenton : I think to be practical about it, there is a public beach right around the corner from the boat yard, and I think the community is interested in maintaining the cleanliness of that beach. Mr. Bowman I think thats very important, I don't think any of us .... thats right in the area. Mr. EMilita: Okay, the next area under the overall inventory section is entitled transportation, and I think we're concerned here about the impact on the existing street system and traffic flows and counts in the immediate area. These streets are narrow they are of basically a residential character once one gets away from the waterfront. I think we need to know the expected traffic at peak times that will be drawn to the site, if there will be any off site disposal of dredge material , Okay we're getting off field, this is in the inventory section Basically then, we need to characterize the existing traffic conditions and street conditions in the area that will be expected to be used for access. Mr. Neigo us to go from? Any specific monitoring point you want Mr. Emilita: I guess the two major ways in and out of the community are New Suffolk Avenue and New Suffolk Road. Okay, so this intersection might be critical here. In fact it is called Fifth Street, right here. And, perhaps down at the foot of Main and First as right here. The next subject area - Land Use and Zoning. We would like a description of the existing land use in the vicininty of the proposed development and by that I mean in about a two to three block radius. . . Scoping Session Marina Bay Club Page 10 6/23/86 Mr. Raynor: The stuff to the East is easy. Mr. Emilita: Then make it a four to five block radius. Okay, we need a description of how this project again advances the overall plan for the area in the applicants words. Under community services, the services which we might expect to be impacted, the police, fire. Mr. Raynor: Incidentally, I should coordinate on that fire item. I sent a site plan into the district commissioner and we are waiting for a set of recommendations so this could be incorporated as well into the site plan. Mr. Emilita: That is the best way to handle that. Let the agency in command handle it. Mrs. Marriner: Dave, when you say police, you also mean Harbor Police. Mr. Emilita: There are no Harbor Police Mrs. Marriner: Bay Constable. Mr. Emilita: I think the police department in general would be able to give you an answer to that. Mrs. Marriner: They would take that into consideration. Mr. Emilita: Yes. The next section is entitled Demography. I think that could be handled in relation to the characterization of the existing land use. In other words what type of community is it. The next sectionis entitled cultural resources and I think there are two areas which basically need to be handled one is visual resources. A characterization of the existing site again with the eye toward an assessment of what will be the visual impact of the development on the area once it's completed. The seconde item under cultural resources is historic and archeological resources. Are there any that may be impacted by this development. Is there any historical or archeaological significance attached to the site. The next item is... Mr. Fenton: There is an historical marker that the historical society originally placed in front of the Galley Ho Restaurant, and the present owner of the property moved it to, or had it moved off the site, about 10 years ago when the prospect of rezoning came up and we don't think he wanted to be placed with the historical factors involved here. You might want to address the replacing of that historical marker back on the site. Mr. Emilita: Is it across the street? Mr. Fenton: Yes. . . Scoping Session Marina Bay Club Page 11 6/23/86 Mr. Emilita: Okay, the next major section will contain the meat of the impact statement if you will. This is the section entitled significant impacts. For that we will refer to part two and three of the Long Environmental Assessment Form and I guess properly we should read off each of the items that is inthat form. Okay, question one, will there be an effect as a result in a physical change to the site. Under the items or examples that are in that catagory we expect constructionwill take place on land where the depth to water table is fairly shallow. And that is one of the items that needs to be addressed, in its proper context in the outline. This construction activity takes place in a FEMA flood hazard zone and we need to know how that situation will be complied with. The next section is entitled impact on water or water body. There will be a dredging activity taking place and it is not shown or known at this time as to how much material will be dredged or what quality or specific quality it is or where it will be placed. And, this would need to be shown. Mr. Raynor: I think some of that has already been addressed in some amendments to the site plan. Mr. Emilita: Be that as it may, it has to all appear between the two covers of the impact statement. The project will require a discharge permit as we said before by the Health Department, require source of water that does not have current approval to serve the project. The project may require a DEC water, Long Island Water Permit. I'm not sure as to the volume here that is involved but it looks like it will. The project may adversly affect adjacent wells and we are raising that as an issue to be addressed. Okay, on the subject of drainage, not having, the site plan doesn't precisely show the final finished grade of the parking area and so we are concerned that the raising of the grade will alter adversly existing drainage patterns in the area, storm drainage patterns. Mr. Lowrey: I think I should say as a resident of New Suffolk, on Second Street, every time there's a noreaster First Street is flooded. And, I mean a noreaster of any consequence and if the grade is going to be raised and if a substantial part of the site is going to be paved we are in trouble. Mr. Emilta: fair to ask problems. I Okay, just to interject, I don't think it is the applicant to correct existing drainage think all we can ask the applicant to do is... Mr. Lowrey: I'm saying they are going to get worse. Mr. Emilita: Well, we can ask the applicant to show how drainage will be handled in such a manner as to not make existing drainage problems worse. If there is an existing drainage problem it should be handled through existing corrective measures by the Town. I would say, because you constantly . . Scoping Session Marina Bay Club Page 12 6/23/86 Mr. Emilita: run into this, when a new project is proposed, let us correct all the problems with the project. Mr. Lowrey: I'm not saying that only that it will get worse. Mr. Emilita: Okay, well, that can be addressed. Mr. Fenton: How much higher is this going to go? Mr. Hart: This is right on the site plan, not any different than what is there now. Mr. Lowrey: That is what I'm saying. Mr. Raynor: All the drainage has to be contained on the site, anyhow and it will be contained on the site to those specifications. Mr. Fenton: I got the impression when this started that this was going to be raised and I don't know if that is the case. Mr. Hart: No, not at all. I think,Mr. Emilita stated that there wasn't any indication as to where the finished grade was going to go and he didn't know. Mr. Neigo: I think the finished grade is all on the site plan. Mr. Emilita; I don't see it, that is all. Mr. Carr: I don't think it will be any different and we don't propose it to be any different. Mr. Neigo: We will address it. Mr. Emilita: Okay, there may be an effect on a threatened or endangered species and that needs to be addressed. Mr. Hart: Do we know of any? Mr. Lowrey: Yes. Mr. Hart: What? Mr. Lowrey: It is the New Suffolk Snail Darter. Mr. Hart: A recently discovered species. Mr. Lowrey: A very obscure creature. Mr. Emilita: NO longer. Mr. Hart: Seriously, are there any? Mr. Lowrey: No. . . Scoping Session Marina Bay Club Page 13 6/23/86 Mr Emilita: Okay, visual impact, we have addressed. Granted there were past buildings on the site. They are now not there, but I think we have to look at what is newly proposed and how will it either fit in or not fit in with the existing community and some elevations would help to illustrate the point. Perhaps some perspectives of down the street of the new development contrasted or one side of the street compared to the other side would help illustrate how this impacts the area. Impact on transportation. Okay, we touched on this before, the, if there will be any significant either importation of constructin materials onto the site or whether there will be any excess spoil on the site, I think we need to know the routes to be used and frequency and type of vehicle that will be used. I have a letter here from the Board of Trustees to the Planning Board and it, there are four points, and I will quickly read them to put them into the record. "To the Southold Town Planning Board from Henry P. Smith, President, of the Trustees, regarding Marina Bay Club. Transmitted herewith are the issues and concerns of the Town Trustees regarding the above captioned application. 1. Magnitude and ipact of discharge of storm sanitary and water treatment wastewaters on the area and examination of mitigations measures thereof. 2. Examine likely requirements for pervious surfaces for all ares within 75' of water and all roof and road runoff to be contained in drywells. Mr. Hart: We will get a copy of it? Mr. Emilita: Yes, okay, fine. "3. Investigate providing portoin of the project for Marine Commercial and/or fishing industry consistent with State Grant of Underwater Lane on site. 4. Investigate providing Marein Pumpout facilities and requirement in Dock leases obligating leases to have system compatible Discharge/Suction fittings to facilitate and encourage the use of the pumpout. Okay, does anyone else have a comments on what might be a significant environmenal impact on the project. Mr. Fenton: I think employement of the site is important to comment on , particularly the local people will have employment here. I think the tax impact on the rest of the community. There may be some reduction of school taxes here if this project goes. And, I think the question about public controversy about the project should be discussed, because for some reason or another the word seems to be out that New Suffolk is opposed to this project which is not the case. Mr. Emilita: Anyone else. Mr. Soutenbourgh: Yes, I just want to make sure that the requirements for boaters and water supply is calculated. In other words, you have so many slips, you need water for washing down, you need water for consumption, I am sure people . . Scoping Session Marina Bay Club Page 14 6/23/86 Mr. Stoutenburgh: will be living aboard these boats. I want some way of de terming that these boats will have adequate for land facilities so that it will be more advantageous to go on shore for the jOhn than to use their own facilities. This kind of inducing to make sure that they are not pumping in the water. Mr. Fenton: I think the question of live aboard is an important consideration and I'm, we've attempted to deal with it by agreeing with the constract vendee there that people will not be able to live aboard overnight except in the case of a transient, an occasional transient use. He's agreed to enter into a covenants which could be enforced by the Town or any resident of New Suffolk which prohibit that kind of thing. Mr. Stoutenburgh: That is very important concept. Mr Fenton: We were concerned about it from the beginning. And, we have been meeting with developer here for a period of months and infact, we have worked out some language that is acceptable. Mr. Stoutenburgh: More use and again it is a very important concept. Everyone who comes in washes down their boats. Mr. And not Fenton: I to wash Well, that is think it would boats down. what a boatyard is all about. be unreasonable to expect people Mr. Stoutenburgh: And, I think, I'm sorry I am late, but you've covered I take it a portion for the public. Some public area. Mr. Fenton: That has not been discussed, it is set aside as I understand. Mr. Stoutenburgh: Well, that is one of the concerns of the Town and I speak a little bit for the Town. We are loosing some of our water front and it would be exclusive only for those who belong to the club. And I will put that in quotes. And, what we are hoping is that there are areas that the public can have access to, a certain percentage. Mr. Bowman: I think we have to address that in the Coastal Zone Managment Policies for the Department of State, we have to go into the public access and locate that whole area. Mr. Stoutenburgh: Because I think that is an important area and a most important thing. We are loosing an area that has been used by the public in the past. Mr. Carr: The thrust will be to actually encourage usage of the site. We have designed and hope to put together a fishing pier element and there will be seating and benches " ' . . Scoping Session Marina Bay Club Page 15 6/23/86 Mr Carr: There will be open to the public, it is not a club in the private sense, it is just named club. So, that will be totally free access to the docks and the piers and other areas and nothing will be restricted. Mr. Fenton: We tried to talk him out of using the word Club here but he stayed with it. There is something exclusionary about the word and I think it is a misnomer. Mr.Carr: But, in no sense will it be a private or restricted club. Mr. Fenton: The post office is here and I think... Mr. Stoutenburgh: Is that building going to be retained? Mr. Hart: Yes. Mr. Carr: We have understudy the possiblity of moving it around the site because it may depend upon how the thing lays out. We don't have the final plan yet, but the post office will be on site and we may expand it and change it and move it around to make it more feasible for traffic. Mr Stoutenburgh: Because, that is somewhat of a historic building and it is the focal point of the whole community, and If you could use it advantageously I think it would be a great asset. Mr. Carr: The post office will remain as long as it wishes to remain. The only change we may address is to move it around, but it will be on site and available in continuous and historic use. Mr. Stoutenburgh: I think what Mr. Lowrey was referring to before on the flooding situation. I've been there and the water comes right over and goes into the back street. I think what they are concerned with are blockage so that that water won't be able to get back out again. Do you follow what I'm saying here. And there should be some provision here that they don't create a blockage so that it can't come back around. Mr. Carr: If the water would be dropped around then there would be no access around there. Mr. Stoutenburgh: Then there would be like a wall and the water would come around. I don't think there is a b ig problem there I just think that you should consider it. I don't think that we are asking to correct the whole problem but don't give us a problem that is now going to flood the area and not going to get out again. Mr. Carr: I think we have a similar problem and we don't want that to happen either. Mr. Fenton: It is going to flood, there is no question about that. . . Scoping Session Marina Bay Club Page 16 6/23/86 Mr. Raynor: If we change the topography on the property, it is going to fallout the same way it does now. Mr Fenton: It is going to flood, it is going to flood every so often, there is no way you are going to stop that. Mr. SToutenburgh: I just thought there was a way to enhance in your planning. In other words, in your planning if you made a drain of some sort that might help alleviate the problem or help the situation. Mr. Lowrey; Change the name of the development to the New Suffolk Noreaster Moat Club. Mr. Emilita: Any other discussion on significant environmental impact? We will move on to the next section mitigation measures to minimize environmental impact.In this section there should be a description proposed to reduce or void the environmental impact described in the previous section and I won't go through all the measures that are in the appendix, but all relevent ones should be included. The next major section is entitled adverse environmental impacts that cannot be avoided if the project is implemented and these should be detailed. The next major section is entitled alternatives. This is a section that is problematic in most Environmental Impact Statements in that the applicant has generally alternative in mind and the regulations, however, require us, the reviewing agency to look at alternatives. And, it is often difficult right at the outset to establish what are real alternatives to the development until one gets into the environmental impacts and what are avoidable environmental impacts and what impacts may be mitigated in a change in the design which might a change in the design which would properly be headed as an alternative development and with that discussionmaybe not providing too much guidance but it gives you some idea of the delima that we are in by suggesting, that you can't really saylook at alternative A, B, C and no action. All we can say at this point is your proposal, the possiblity of doing nothing with the site because regulations require us to look at that I think some description. For instance, moving the post office building to another portion of the site to either improve aesthics, circulation, the practible layout of the whole thing, you must have done different studies as to alternatives to existing buildings, I am not sure. Perhaps we might be the benefit of your knowledge in arriving at this plan as being the best one. Mr. Carr: There are several different plans, actually design changes in terms of where to put things. We approached the site and we were controlled by current zoning, political environment, marina, restaurant,retail use, however, within that set of confines, we then have increasing it and decreasing it and all that is really driven by a business plan. And that in turn if friven by the cost of the marina portion. This is a very expensive area to build a marina in so that will translate and back up into the other elements. So, . . Scoping Session Marina Bay Club Page 17 6/23/86 Mr. Carr: from a businessman that has completed several other designs, we then translated that into several levels of design and then this is not the finished one, we are still making some adjustments. It is basically, size is the same and the biggest element I'm wrestling with is traffic. How we can lesson the impact of traffic because I think any successful commercial project has a detailed traffic problem. If you can't get the people in and out, they are not going to come. So, we have gone through the various designs. Mr. Emilita: I guess what you are asking you apparantly in the normal business and design considerations for this project addressed some of the questions that need to be addressed in the impact statement. What we are saying is to take that thought process and put it in the context of ... Mr. Hart: So you can see the historic evolution. Mr. Emilita: Right, right. Mr. Raynor: There are some other alternative plans that we took out at the request of the civic association, we had a swimming pool at one juncture. Mr. Emilita: Okay, we are rounding the bend. The next item is the irriversible and irretriavable commitment or resources. Basically this is a tough one to address this is not a kind of a project where we are using half the world's supply of a rare element. It is basically structure elemented. What will be used on the site that cannot be reused. Mr. Hart: We are not cutting down a forest. Mr. Emilita: Right. The next item may be an important one for the New Suffolk Community and it is entitled growth enducing aspects. In this section sould be described the potential growth enducing aspects that the project would have on the New SUffolk Community. We are talking about possible increases in resident population that is seasonal or year round due to the proposed project. The possible increase in support business and service business that may result as of the proposed project. And, .... Mr. Hart: Just a question that I have. That would be on existing zoned parcel? Mr. Emilita: I'm not sure that I follow. Mr. Lowrey: I think you should address yourself to the proposed changes in the master plan. Mr. Hart: But, we cannot anticipate somebody coming in and asking for a rezoning. .~ ! . . Scoping Session Marina Bay Club Page 18 6/23/86 Mr. Emilita: No. Mr. Hart: That was my only question. Mr. Emilita: The next sub element here, development potential. WE are speaking here of a sewage treatment plant, here is shown. We are speaking here of a possible water treatment plant. What kind of a pressure or possiblity would this create to induce additional development. In other words, are we looking at these two plants to serve only this development? Someone may raise the question, the Town may raise it, the HEalth Department may raise it, what is the possibility of these facilities one or both serving something outside of the existing site. I don't know if that is an existing possiblity. Mr. Fenton: We have a very serious problem with Bonnies'-by- the-Bay, which is an existing restaurant, non-conforming use. In New Suffolk, and it has very substantial sewage problems. There have been two hearings that I've attended by the Department of Health and they want them to solve the problem and the solution that they basically have is that this development will allow Bonnie's-by-the-Bay to hook up down the road because presumably otherwise either Bonnies'-by-the-Bay will have to be scaled down, or something will have to give, or close down. So I think that has to be addresed and I think there has been some contact. Mr. Raynor: We have an indication with regard to that and I think as soon as we can scale things to a working perspective we will be happy to try to accommodate and addressed as such. Mr. Carr: The only problem I see is tying in. Mr. Fenton: That is not a problem because it is there. The Department of Health has worked out a temporary solutionto what their problem is and we are talking about sometime in the next five years, hopefully that will solve the problem. Mr Emilita: Okay, any other comments on growth enducing aspects. Alright, the last substantive element of the impact is entitled the effects on the use and conservation of energy resources. I don't expect that we are talking about a very energy intensively using project, but again the regulations require and were drawn up in an era which had much attention to energy conservation and long term impacts on energy use and conservation. That is basically it. The final sections would include any technical backup, inventory studies, your dredge spoil analysis, those kinds of things would be attached in an appendix. I thint that is about all I have. Does anybody see anything we've missed so far? Mr. Stoutenburgh: Dave, you've mentioned the pumpout. Has any thought been given to, usually pumpout stations are permanent, there is also a portable type pumpout that can move around the dock which makes it alot more convenient for people . , ~ . . Scoping Session Marina Bay Club Page 19 6/23/86 Mr. Stoutenburgh: to utilize. It might be worth looking into to have one ~f those along with the permanent pumpout so the person doesn t have to move his boat to can take this portable one right to it and encouraging. . that location, you I think it is handy Mr. Stoutenbourgh: I also want to make sure that the commercial use is continued on the site since this is part of the pact with the State, and there are good scallops on the site. Mr. Raynor: There is a fellow on the site who is racking little necks and putting into the Bay. Mr. Stoutenbourgh: One other comment and that is firefighting. Firefighting is very important. Shallow wells in salt water which couldbe used all the time are ideal for the town and people. Gravel beds located in salt water and an ideal pumping area. Mr. Raynor: The site plan is before the Fire Commissioners and they will locate the best location and type of well on the site. Mr. Carr: We look forward to have this become a place to fish and actually becoming a tourist ac~raction. Mr. Fenton: The portable pumpout station, I've had a couple of yard owners indicate to me a concern about using it because if there own facility is overloaded, there own sewage facility is overloaded there is a temptation to unload that portable one into the Bay. Whereas the permanent set up is already piped into the sewage system and maybe that has some advantages to the community. Mr. Stoutenbourgh: I think the advantage would outweigh the possible disadvantage because if you plan your sewage system correctly to have enough capacity in it. I can't see how you could have it backed up. Mr. Fenton: There is a lazyness by the operators, that they have to hook up something to trundle over to the waste place. It is a human nature problem. They don't have the mechanics that maybe it is... Mr. Stoutenburgh: Conversely the human nature is I don't want to move my boat over there I just pump out. Mr. Fenton: I know, but that is going to happen anyway. Mr. Emililia: Any thing else, okay, thank you for coming. Mr. Lowrey presented correspondence to Mr. Emilta which he requested be part of the record. The scoping session ended at 11:55 a.m. . . HENRY P. SMITH, President JOHN M. BREDEMEYER, Vice-Pres. PHILLIP J. GOUBEAUD ALBERT KRUPSKI, JR. ELLEN M. LARSEN TELEPHONE (516) 765-1892 BOARD OF TOWN TRlJSTEES TOWN OF SOUfHOLD Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 728 Southo1d, New York 11971 To: Southold Town Planning Board From: Henry P. Smith, President for the Board of Town Trustees Re: Marina Bay Club, Wetland Application No. 289 Date: June 23, 1986 Transmitted herewith are the issues and concerns of the Southold Town Trustees regarding the above captioned application. 1. Magnitude and Impact of discharge of Storm, Sanitary and Water Treatment Wastewaters on the area and examination of mitigation measures thereof. 2. Examine likely requirements for pervious surfaces for all areas within 75' of water and all roof and road run off to be contained in dry wells. 3. Investigate providing portion of the project for Marine Commercial and/or Fishing Industry consistent with State Grant of Underwater Land on site. 4. Investigate providing Marine Pumpout facilities and requirement in Dock leases obligating leases to have system compatible Discharge/ Suction fittings to facilitate and encourage the use of pump out. ~OPl~ c;e~<;(a-.\ ~~~ "2 ~ SUM e- @:,(, ~ R< J.,wib ~'~~~..... sL: rn c.. L4 11 do V) GIe..Y\Y' ~ LA s+ 4J'~'!A J:;iAd.d~/e.. Q..,^- ~\:$",,'-o)...., ~""" . . DMiJ. ~k ~ <;m..fe-~S"1... Ll~k) . 010-k'2-zj) \ ( ( ( ~ ~(t-.lA ~ a.lJB SCoplN,t. ~~(Ol'-J . UNe etP Introduction (!)Cover Sheet .._ All EIS's (Draft or Final) shall begm wIth a cover sheet that indicates: A. Whether it is a draft or final statement B. Name or other descriptive title of the project C. Location (county and town, village or city) of the project D. Name and address of the lead agency which required preparation of the statement and the name and telephone number of a person at the agency to be contacted for further in- formation E. Name and address of the preparers of any portion of the statement and a contact name and telephone number F. Date of acceptance of the Draft EIS G. In the case of a Draft EIS, the deadline date by which comments are due should be in. dicated @ Table of Contents and Summary A table of contents and a brief summary are reo quired for Draft and Final EIS's'exceeding 10 pages in length. However, one should include these features in any size EIS to provide the review agency with easy reference to EIS topics. The summary should include: A. Brief description of the action B. Significant. beneficial and adverse impacts, (issues of controversy must be specified) C. Mitigation measures proposed D. Alternatives considered E. Matters to be decided (permits, approvals, funding) The following checklist of topics is intended as a starting point for developing a detailed scope for a project-specific Draft Environmental Impact Statement. Typically, no one project will require a discussion of all the topic areas contained in this document. Through the scoping process, this list of topics should be refined to reflect issues unique to the proposed project. Topic areas may be deleted, added, or elaborated upon, to arrive at the final scoping document. The purpose of the checklist format is to identify the basic topic areas for the Draft EIS. This is accomplished by reviewing the list and placing a check in the box located to the left of those topics which should be discussed. The model scoping checklist can also be used as a worksheet. including comments, suggestions and identification of the particular example(s) that are relevant to a detailed discussion of the topic or issue that has been check- ed. Conversely, those topics which are not checked. are issues not associated with the project, and may be eliminated from discussion in the Draft EIS. Minimum requirements for any Draft EIS are already checked for convenience. The next step is to expand the list to include or elaborate on those topics unique to the proposed project. A blank sheet is included at the end of the checklist for such additional information. The scoping process involves several steps in addition to compiling a list of topics. Scoping also includes discussiors on the quantity and quality of information required and the methods for obtaining that data. <!!9 Description of the Proposed Action Place a check in the box to the left of those NOTE: This checklist w~s designe? to be topics to be included in the draft EIS. used in conjunction with the sectIon on seopmg con- tained in the SEQR Guideline-Draft and Final EIS's. ~ A. PROJECT PURPOSE AND NEED It is also important to emphasize that this checklist 1. Background and hIstory . should serve only as a model to assist in the scoping 2. Publi~ n.eed for. the project, and of a Draft EIS. It should not be used as a substitute mUnlclp~hty objectIves based on adopted for actively scoping a Draft EIS for a specific pro- community development plans . 3. Objectives of the project sponsor ject. C-1 IXJ B. LOCATION 1. Establish geographic boundaries of the project (use of regional and local scale maps is recommended) 2. Description of access to site 3. Description of existing zoning of propos. ed site . 4. Other: N'6 6(~t' ~ C. DESIGN AND LAYOUT 1. Total site area a.) proposed impervious surface area (roofs, parking lots, roads) b.) amount of land to be cleared c.) open space 2. Structures a.) gross leaseable area (GLA), if ap. plicable b.) layout of buildings (attached. enclos. ed, separate) c.) site plans and profile views 3. Parking a.) pavement area b.) number of spaces and layout 4. Other: ~ D. CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION 1. Construction a.) total construction period anticipated b.) schedule of construction c.) future potential development, on site or on adjoining properties d.)other: ~cM.s Pl~o& 2. Operation a.) type of operation b.) schedule of operation c.)other: o E. CLOSURE AND POST CLOSURE PLANS (for projects of planned limited life such as landfills) ~ F. APPROVALS 1. Required changes or variances to the zon. ing regulations 2. Other permit al?proval or funding reo quirements ~;;m#b.J . IV. Environmental Se'(l,rg~~ Place a check in the box to the left of those topics to be included in the Draft EIS. /..., \ ./ .' c Natural Resources KI A. GEOLOGY gj 1. Subsurface a.) composition and thickness of subsurface material examples: -depth to, and nature of, bed. rock formations and imperme' able layers -occurrence of an extractive mineral resource -usefulness as construction material b.) earthquake potential gJ 2. Surface a.) list of soil types b.) discussion of soil characteristics examples: -physical properties (indication of soils hydrological (infiltra. tion) capabilities) -engineering properties (soil bearing capacity) c.) distribution of soil types at pro. ject site d.) suitability for use examples: -agriculture -recreation -construction -mining e.) other: ~ 3. Topography a.) description of topography at pro. ject site examples: -slopes -prominent or unique features b.) description of topography of sur. rounding area ~ B. WATER RESOURCES ~ 1. Groundwater a.) location and description of aquifers and recharge areas examples: -depth to water table -seasonal variation -quality -quantity -flow ( / L-- ~ C.2 . . Human Resources . XI A. TRANSPORT A TION ~ 1. Transportation services a.) description of the size, capacity and condition of services examples: -roads, canals, railroads, bridges -parking facilities -traffic control b.) description of current level of use of services examples: -a.m. and p.m. peak hour traffic flow -vehicle mix -sources of existing traffic volume o 2. Public transportation a.) description of the current availability of serv.ice b.) description of present level of use o 3. Pedestrian environment o 4. Other: KI B. LAND USE AND ZONING ~ 1. Existing land use and zoning a.) description of the existing land use of the project site and the surrounding area examples: -commercial -residential -agricultural -business -retail -industrial -vacant b.) description of the existing zoning of site and surrounding area ~ 2. Land use plans a.) description of any land use plans or master plans which include project site and surrounding area b.) discussion of future development trends or pressures o 3. Other: ( ji:I C. COMMUNITY SERVICES (for this section in- clude a list of existing facilities and a discus- sion of existing levels of usage and pro- jected future needs) o 1. Educational facilities o 2. Police protection o 3. Fire protection o 4. Health care facilities o 5. Social services o 6. Recreational facilities o 7. Utilities o 8. Other: ~ D. DEMOGRAPHY ~1 o 1. Population characteristics a.) discussion of the existing popula. tion parameters examples: -distribution -density -household size and composi- tion b.) discussion of projections for population growth o 2. Other: ( ~ E. CULTURAL RESOURCES r8I 1. Visual resources a.) description of the physical character of the community example: -urban vs. rural b.) description of natural areas of significant scenic value c.) identification of structures of significant architectural design "iI 2. Historic and archaeological resources a.) location and description of historic areas or structures listed on State or National Register or designated by the community b.) identification of sites having potential significant ar- chaeological value E' I C.4 ( ( b.) identification of present uses and level of use of groundwater examples: -location of existinll wells -public/private water supply -industrial uses -agricultural uses ~ 2. Surface water a.) location and description of sur. face waters located on project site or those that may be in. f1uenced by the project examples: -seasonal variation -quality -classification according to New York State Department of Health b.) identification of uses and level of use of all surface waters examples: -public/private water supply -industrial uses -agricultural uses -recreation c.) description of existing drainage areas, patterns and channels d.)discussion of potential for flooding, siltation, erosion and eutrophication of water sources D C. AIR RESOURCES 6fl9- D 1. Climate a.) discussion of seasonal variations and extremes examples: -temperature -humidity -precipitation -wind c D 2. Air quality a.) description of existing air quality levels examples: -list the National and State Air Quality Standards for the pro- ject area and the compliance status for each standard b.) identification of existing sources or pollutants-fixed or mobile c.) identification of any sensitive receptors in project area examples: -hospitals, schools, nursing homes, parks d.) description of existing monitor. ing program (if applicable) jgI D. TERRESTRIAL AND AQUATIC ECOLOGY ~ 1. Vegetation . a.) list vegetation types on the pro- ject site and within the surround. ing area b.) discussion of site vegetation characteristics examples: -species present and abundance -age -size -distribution -dominance -community types -unique, rare and endangered species -value as habitat for wildlife -productivity ~ 2. Fish and Wildlife a.) list of fish and wildlife species on the project site and within sur. rounding area, including migratory and resident species b.) discussion of fish and wildlife population characteristics examples: . -species present and abundance -distribution -dominance -unique, rare and endangered species . -productivity ~ 3. Wetlands a.) list wetland areas within or con. tiguous to the project site b.) discuss wetland characteristics examples: -acreage -vegetative cover -classification - benefits of wetland such as flood and erosion control, recreation C.3 . . (\ ( \ o 3. Noise g(4 a.) identification of existing level of noise in the community b. identification of major sources of noise examples: -airports -major highways - industrial/commercial facili- ties o 4. Other: U~PMt (p1]L @ Significant Environmental Impacts eAr Identify those aspects of the environmental set- ting in Section !V that may be adversely or beneficially affected by the proposed action and re- quire discussion. :Vi) MItigation Measures to MinImIze Environmen- "tin'lmpact Describe measures to reduce or avoid potential adverse impacts identified in Section V. The follow. ing is a brief listing of typical measures used for some of the major areas of impact. ( Natural Resources J}.(t A. GEOLOGY 1. Subsurface a.) use excavated material for land reclamation b.) use facility wastes (ash. sludge) for land reclamation c.) other: 2. Surface a.) use topsoil stockpiled during construction for restoration and landscaping b.) minimize disturbance of non- construction sites c.) design and implement soil ero. sion control plan d.)other: 3. Topography a.) avoid construction on areas of steep slope b.) design adequate soil erosion devices to protect areas of steep slope c.) other: ~ B. WATER RESOURCES t. Groundwater a.) design adequate system of treat- ment for stormwater runoff prior to recharge of groundwater b.) maintain permeable areas on the site c.) institute a program for monitor. ing water quality in adjacent wells d.) other: 2. Surface water a.) ensure use of soil erosion control techniques during construction and operation to avoid siltation examples: -hay bales -temporary restoration of vegetation to disturbed areas -landscaping b.) design adequate stormwater con. . trol system c.) restrict use of salt or sand for road and parking area snow removal d.) avoid direct discharges to surface water. resources e.) other: o C. AIR RESOURCES t. Air quality a.) assure proper construction prac. tices examples: -fugitive dust control -proper operation and maintenance of construction equipment b.) design traffic improvements to reduce congestion and vehicle delay c.) install and ensure the proper operation of emission control devices d.) initiate a program for monitoring of air quality e.) other: C-5 - it D. TERRESTRIAL AND AQUATIC ECOLOGY 1. Vegetation a.) restrict clearing to only those areas necessary b.) preserve part of site as a natural area c.) after construction. landscape site with naturally occurring vegeta- tion d.) purchase open space at another location and dedicate to local government or conservation organization e.) other: 2. Fish and Wildlife a.) provide adequate habitat (shelter and food) for remaining wildlife species b.) schedule construction to avoid sensitive periods of fish and wildlife life cycles c.) other: Human Resources ~ A. TRANSPORTATION 1. Transportation services a.) design adequate and safe access to project site to handle pro- jected traffic flow b.) install adequate traffic control devices c.) optimize use of parking areas d.) encourage car pooling and opera. tion of facility during non-peak traffic times e.) design special routing and restricted hours for delivery truck traffic f.) other: 2. Public transportation a.) adjust public transportation routes and schedules to service the facility b.) encourage use of public transpor- tation by using incentive pro. grams for employees or by sell- ing tickets in facility c.) other: ( ~ B. LAND USE AND ZONING 1. Existing land use and zoning a.) design project to comply with ex- isting land use plans b.) design functional and visually ap- pealing facility to set standard and precedent for future surrounding land use c.) other: & C. COMMUNITY SERVICES 1. Police protection a.) minimize local police protection responsibilities by providing private security force b.) provide security systems, alarms for facility c.) provide equipment, funds or ser. vices directly to the community d.) other: 2. Fire protection a.) use construction materials that minimize fire hazards b.) incorporate sprinkler and alarm systems into building design c.) provide equipment, funds or ser- vices directly to the community d.) other: 3. Utilities a.) install utility underground b.) incorporate water saving fixtures into facility design c.) incorporate energy-saving measures into facility design d.) other: ~ D. CULTURAL RESOURCES 1. Visual resources a.) design exterior of structure to physically blend with existing surroundings b.) minimize visual impact through thoughtful and innovative design of lighting and signs (consider: height, size, intensity, glare and hours of lighting operation) c.) design landscaping to be visually pleasing and to serve as a buffer between surrounding land uses, parking areas, operational equip' ment and facilities d.) other: ( services L-- '- C-6 . . ( ( 2. Historic and archaeologic resources a.)allow historical and ar- chaeological officials access to the project site during excavation b.) devote space within project site to a display of historical and ar. chaeological artifacts of local in- terest c.) preserve architecturally signifi. cant structures and make a photographic and statistical record of those that must be destroyed d.) other: 3. Noise a.) schedule construction/operation to occur during "normal business' hours minimizing noise impact during sensitive times (early morning, night) b.) assure adherence to construction noise standards c.) design berms and landscaping to block and absorb noise d.) other: @ Adverse Environmental Effects that Cannot be Avoided if the Project is Implemented Identify those adverse environmental effects in Section V that can be expected to occur regardless of the mitigation measures considered in Section VI. l - (VIIQAlternatives l---rhis section contains categories of alternatives with examples. Discussion of each alternative should be at a level sufficient to permit a com. parative assessment of costs, benefits and en- vironmental risks for each alternative. It is not ac- ceptable to make simple assertions that a particular alternative is or is not feasible. Identify those categories of alternatives which should be included in the EIS by placing a check in the box located to the ieft of the topic. ~ A. ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGIES 1. Site layout a.) density and location of structures b.) location of access routes, park. ing and utility routes 2. Orientation a.) compatibility with slope and drainage patterns b.)site size and setback reo quirements 3. Technology a.) pollution control equipment b.) innovative vs. proven technologies 4. Mix of activities a.) addition of busines"es which would affect the operational nature of the facility . DESIGN AND o B. ALTERNATIVE SITES 1. Limiting factors a.) availability of land b.) suitability of alternate site to ac. comodate design requirements c.) availability of utilities d.) suitable market area e.) compatibility with local zoning and master plan f.) compatibility with regional ob. jectives g.) accessibility of site to (ransporta. tion routes and the service population IiJ C. ALTERNATIVE SIZE 1. Increase or decrease project size to minimize possible impacts 2. Increase or decrease project size to correspond to market and com- munity needs ~ D. ALTERNATIVE CONSTRUCTION/OPERA-' TION SCHEDULING 1. Commence construction at a dif- ferent time 2. Phase construction/operation 3. Restrict construction/operation work schedule C-7 '- till E. ALTERNATIVE LAND USE 1. Suitability of site for other uses a.) other types of commercial uses . b.) other types of Industry c.) different types of housing d.) other: 2. Public vs. private use l& F. NO ACTION 1. Impacts of no action a.) effect on public need b.) effect on private developers' need c.) beneficial or adverse en- vironmental impacts o G. OTHER: 1ill C. DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL 1. Introduction or improvement of in- frastructure (roads, waste disposal, sewers, water) to service proposed project 2. Creation of further growth potential by construction of improved in. frastructure o D. OTHER: ( tX'i:\;ffects on the Use and Conservation of Energy ~rces Identify the energy sources to be used an- ticipated levels of consumption and ways to r~duce energy consumption. The examples listed below are typical issues to be considered when addressing this topic. o A. PROPOSED ENERGY SOURCES AND AL TERNA liVES o B. ANTICIPATED SHORT-TERM/LONG-TERM LEVELS OF ENERGY CONSUMPTION o C. INDIRECT EFFECTS ON ENERGY CON- SUMPTION 1. Increased dependence on automobile use 2. Increased levels of traffic due to pro- posed project o D. ENERGY CONSERVATION MEASURES 1. Design methods to reduce fuel use for heating, cooling, and lighting a.) conventional technology examples: -insulation -thermopane windows -use of low wattage lights b.) innovative technology examples: -heat pumps -solar panels -wind energy -use of waste heat from an in- dustrial plant c.) efficient layout examples: -orientation of structures in relation to summer and winter sunlight -clustering of structures to maximize common walls -shortening of utility runs -shared insulation and heating 2. Indirect energy benefits a.) location and design of facility to accomodate mass transit b.) use of shuttle buses c.) location of facility to minimize travel distance ( F :L ""- o E. OTHER: C-8 ( ( l . . XII. Appendices Following is a list of materials typically used in support of the EIS. A. List of underlying studies, reports and infor. mation considered and relied on in preparing state. ment B. List all federal, state, regional, or local agen. cies, organizations, consultants and private persons consulted in preparing the statement C. Technical exhibits (if any) at a legible scale D. Relevant correspondence regarding the pro- jects may be included (required in the Final EIS) Additional Draft EIS Scoplng Topics Indicate any additional topics for discussion in the Draft EIS. Attach additional sheets if necessary. C-g .. " .,.~ d " -, . . rl,~;'-~:;52.-:., ";;..::~ ,. :r,r'~-' -"-. 1~i~~E:::-:: .;.. ~.b~...!__. "I" ----rl.....r.-- ~ - --.~--o;'~';;-"'=..' ___ .:~ ~--.- ...-:::~ilm..-1 .....\..-....- 0;.... .1&~~~~f~~:~~~~j O ~Ir-I <"",,;'t1~~ I''"'t;j'" I '''" "',I,l-;, ~,- >-~I~-!I ':.....--. ~=-:i~ '~~2ll~~.' .:~_ ~~ , :...., I .........~::-- ''.J ~ r.-_._=-.-...-... '~i~~~~l1IJiiITilllllllllllrl;~~~'il':'IIIIII1:1l1l1 ~1~~"lli~,tll.~1 . " 22 June, 1986 New Suffolk. N.Y. 11956 Southold Town Planning Board Southold Town Hall Main Road Southold, N.Y. 11971 Gentlemen: You have been kind enough to inform Mr. Paul Leary that there will be a so-called scoping meeting tomorrow morning at 10:30 in connection with the DEIS which you have decided to require of Richard Carr of Marina Bay Associates who is interested in purchasing the presently disused North Fork Shipyard here in New Suffolk. Mr. Leary has asked me to detail some of our concerns concerning Mr. Carr's ambitions. For the most part, our apprehensions are well expressed in Mr. Leary's letter to the ~Town Trustees, 14 September, 1985, a copy of which I attach. But other factors have come to lignt as Carr's plans have been modified, and I shall briefly go into them now, not in any particular order to be sure. .. We are concerned that Mr. Carr mi~ht like to lease slips on some basis to such craft as "party boats which might generate un- toward amounts of traffic. That the original plans for valet parking might involve Schoolhouse Creek should more parking be required than seems to be the case according ~Q&he latest site plan. That no.ra~modations are provided for the some >thirtu emplcyees planned for. f We are concerned that the plans for a water district (Which seems to be arousing a good deal of local opposition) may cause Mr. Carr to prematurely abandon his plans for a desalinization or denitrification plant. That no provision has been made for the automobiles of those peoole who have their small boats in Carr's demand-~torage facility. . That the Dravo VanHouten sketch of the slip area provides for slips for 100' yachts, a perfect opportunity to allow the use of the large slips by SMaller craft without provision of parking for the additional cars generated by such use.(A recent weekend on which the weather was too cold for swimming GO'" snnning still saw the public parking lot on Jackson completely filled by users of the launching ramp. There is no room for overflow parking from the boat yard. ) The D=IS should take account of the weekly number of pumpouts required at !he Galley~o and Bonnie's-by-the-Say restaurants at the present time.(ihe latter restaurant has even applied to Mr. Carr for access to his sewage-treatment plant.) . Our own traffi~ engi~eer has estimated that present New Suffolk traffi~ will be aoublea to about a thousand a day in the busy time of year. ;/e do not believe .that the cormnunlty can possibly absorb ~ .,. ....... . . The Association has already expressed itself to Carr on , the matters of long-term live-aboard leasing of slips, on the matter of a swimming pool, and a floating restaurant, and he has responded that they are no longer being considered. We are very much concerned that some of the answers by an agent of the developer to questions on the Environment Assessment I are incorrect. The responses to the entire form ought to be reviewed carefully. Finally we are concerned that the latest site plan adds about two acres to the original plan, apparently on the basis of a Trustees grant of 1897. This grab of underwater land has not beeen questioned by anybody 0. the Board and certainly ought to be. Mr. : Leary drew the Board's. attention to this change in plans in his letter of 22 !1arch, and no answer to the questions he has raised have ever been received. apart from a testy and evasive note from an attorney retained by Carr which says only that Carr "does not seek more than the Town has given to other marina owners. He does not...intend to settle for less." We look forward to the public hearing phase of the S~QR process during which you will doubtless hear more from us. ~ yours, fhomas L.O\..~ 7 for the New Suffolk Civic Association T ~ 4 " Southold. N.Y. 11971 (516) 765-1938 MEMORANDUM TO: Building Department, ZBA, Trustees, Supervisor's Office Town Clerk's Office FROM: Planning Board DATE: June 20, 1986 RE: Marina Bay Club Please be advised that there will be a scoping session for the above mentioned proposal with the Town Planner at Monday, June 23, 1986 at 10:30 a.m. in the Southold Towll.. Hall. ~I\ ~ c-n:m-.seciit)Y) -flsy Y"oad~. ~ loca-hon and ~i2.e of-e;.u::clel'" ",,~., ~ ..~ - . 0(. -, . ~ I , ~ ::I.1em . ~~ (........ ) ( /) (v1 ( /) (/) ( V) ( v1 (/) ( v) ~~ ( vi' ) (./ ) J~ ) :t;~: ) ? ~\0~ bJ0o(l.1l>. ( I) ( () ~~ ( ) , ( ./ ) ( v) (v ) ( a/') ( V) ( ) tOX'~~t) ~lJJ-~ 4tL~Jk ..~..~ ......... ... SITE PLAN ELEMENTS 5100-134 Town Code Lot, block, and section number, if any, or the property taken from tax records Name and address of the owner of record Name and address of the person preparing the map Date, North arrow and written and graphic scale Sufficient description or information to precisely define the boundarie, of the property. All distances shall be in feet and tenths of a foot. All angles shall be given to the nearest ten seconds or closer. The error of closure shall not exceed one in ten thousand. ~ The locations, name, and existing width of adjacent streets and curblin, The location and owners of all adjoining lands, as shown on the latest tax records Location, width and purpose of all existing and proposed eas~~ents, set~ reservations, and areas dedicated to public use withinor adjoining p:::op' A complete outline of existing deed restrictions or covenants applying , the property Existing zoning Existing contours at intervals of five or less, referred to a datum satisfactory to the Board'q:r:t fJro.da Approximate boundaries of any areas subject to flooding or stormwater o. Location of existing watercourses, marshes, wooded areas, rock outcrops isolated trees with a diameter of eight inches or measured three feet above the base of the trunk and other significant existing features. Location of uses and outlines of structures, drawn to scale on and within one hundred (100) feet of the lots. Paved areas, sidewalks, and w~hicular access between the site and puLli, streets Locations, dimensions, grades and flow direction of existing sewers, cul and waterlines as well as other underground and above ground utilities within and adjacent to the property. -Other existing development, including fences, landscaping and screening The location of proposed buildings or structural improvement The location and design of all uses not requiring structures such as off street parking and loading areas. The location, direction, power and time of use of any proposed outdoor lighting or public address systems. ., The location of,and plans for, any outdoor sign~ ,1The location and arr~gement of proposed means of access and egress, including sidewalks, driveways or other paved areas; profiles indicati~g grading and cross sections showing width of roadway, location and width of sidewalks and lcoation and size of water and sewer lines. OVER.. . . . Site plan elements cont. (HOO-134) (/) ev) ~ ( ) ( v1 (0 ( -~ ) Any proposed grading, screening and other landscaping including types and locations of proposed street trees. 7hot.shClD)l.. The location of all proposed waterlines, valves and hydrants and of all sewer lines or alternate means of water supply and sewage diSP~;~_~.-I_ and treatment. /lJJ..d. U~ bt.d pl.a.n tOCl7f wt:{J rl...ui; """"~<'!. An outline of any proposed deed retrictions and/or covenants. ~~tt~~~ Any contemplted public improvements on or adjoining the property. If the site development plan indictes only a first stage, a supplementary plan shall indicate ultimate develoment. Any other information deemed by the Planning Board necessary to determine conformity of the site plan with the intent and regulations of this chapter. -. -, , ~ ., - . . ~ .-.------..........-.--.-.-..---...---.---.. '_h TOWN CLERK . . TOWN OF SOUTHOLD ~_ . ", _ 1 , Salfolk Counly, New York 516. 765.1801 ~ NI! .~~~~1' . .I J Soulho.ld. N. Y. 11971ao. ~O 19...f1 RECEIVED OF~.-cJ... G.r..r <. ac _ ~ <'00'" D/JIJan' -'-. OCO. '00 For ~ - S' (Z<iJ K.. A ~ r..ru..~ ~ ~. Judith T. Terry. 'Cawn Clerk ~~_.~!'.:.E~--:::-_.-_.-._-!Z__k.~~___._+ I . . ' ~ -.. ..~. . '. - -,- -. - - _..:Ii _(\' ,..._ _11'~ ,;. :," -....... '. ~~.."..; TOWN:""'!JIIIl!Ii~'.~.=; !\"'. . ., TOWN.OFsotl'1.lJOCD........ 'J.' N~ 17514' Suffolk Counly. New'Vork 516 . 765.18'01 0/ 3 19..!!f:.- ~I Yo: 'YY\ c.a..... ' ...~~wn "'Mk \ I Check ~ b 0 7 B~_. ~ ... "~~It&._ . Cash 0 ___________._ . .- - . - - .:..6.. . .-~ : .. ~."-'I'''''~'4'~ ...ti.;,,t., ,J\. ;. .t:,. .'. T D LD y Southold. N.Y. 11971 (516) 765-1938 June 11, 1986 Mr. Henry E. Raynor,Jr. 320 Love Lane Mattituck, NY 11952 Re: Marina Bay club Dear Mr. Raynor: Please let this confirm the following action taken by the Southold Town Planning Board, Monday, June 9, 1986. WHEREAS, Richard Carr has heretofore applied to the Southold Town Planning Board for a site plan for construction of a marina with retail store, rest~urant, post office, boat storage and docking facilities, located at Main Street, New Suffolk known as "Marina Bay Club". NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED AS FOLLOWS: 1. That pursuant to the provisions of Article 8 of the Environmental Conservati nLaw; Part 617 of Title 6 of the New York State Codes, Rules and Regulations, and Chapter 44 of the Southold Town Code, the Southold Town Planning Board, as lead agency, does hereby determine that the action proposed is a Type I action and is likely to have a significant effect on the environment. 2. That the Planning Board shall file and ~irculate such determination as required by the afrementioned law, rules and code. 3. That the Planning Board immediately notify the applicant, Richard Carr, of this determination, and further request said applicant to prepare a Draft Environmental Impact Statement in accordance wit the scope and contents required by the Planning Board and Town Planner, all in accordance with said law, rules and code. Please let this confirm that a scoping session has been set for June 23, 1986 at 10:30 a.m. in the Southold Town Hall with the Town Planner. . . LD Southold. N. Y. 11971 (516) 765-1938 M E M 0 RAN DUM TO: Southold Town Trustees FROM: Southold Town Planning Board DATE: June 11, 1986 RE: Marina Bay Club At the present time, there are two lead agencies for the above mentioned project as the Planning Board has also declared themselves lead agency and requested a DEIS for the pending site plan. At the request of the Planning Board, we would like to determine who will be the lead agency for the purposes of a unified SEQRA review. Would you please advise us regarding this matter at your earliest possible convenience. Thank you. P.S. - A tentative date has been set for the scoping session with the Town Planner for June 23, therefore, may we have your input prior to that date. ~~-- - - .. . . ROBERT W. TASKER Town Attorney ORNEJ UN 1 0 1986 , , TELEPHONE (516) 477-1400 425 MAIN STREET. P.O. BOX 697 GREENPORT, L.I., NEW YORK 11944 June 9, 1986 Mr. Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman Southold Town Planning Board Town Hall Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Re: Site Plan of Marina Bay Club Dear Mr. Orlowski: By your letter to me of June 3, 1986, you have transmitted to me the documents enumerated therein and requested my opinion as to whether or not the Planning Board must include the land contained within the underwater grant and outside the bulkhead line in the determination of lot area. As to the grants, I do not believe that any prior purported grants made by the Southold Town Trustees to the previous upland owners to underwater lands in Cutchogue Harbor and lor Peconic Bay are valid, since the courts of this State, in the Case of Town of Southold v. Parks 41 Misc.456; 84 N. Y. S. 1078 (1903); affirmed 90 N.Y.S. 1116; affirmed 183 N.Y. 513, held that the south boundary of the Andross Patent is construed to be the high water mark on the north side of Peconic and Gardiners' Bays. Therefore, the underwater lands in said bays belong to the State of New York, not the Town of Southold, and only the State may make grants therein. In light of two New York cases, to wit: Bloom v. Town of Oyster Bay 32 NY 930 (1973), and Ashman v. Edwards 88 AD 2d 923 (1982), the first of which required that the slope of an abandoned sand pit and the second of which required that an ocean sand dune, although such areas may not be buildable, must be included in determining the lot area. I am of the opinion that the land embraced within the New York State underwater grant, and presumably owned by the upland owner, must be included in determining lot area. However, the fact that such land is included in determining lot area, does not mean that such land is buildable. It appears to fall within the definition of a tidal wetlands under Section 97- 13 of the Wetlands Ordinance ,t\ C"\\ ~t(b .,-. . . -- ., . . -2- of the Town of Southold. It also probably falls within the State Environmental Conservation Law definition of tidal wetland and must be considered by the D.E.C. Also, Section 100-119.2 B (Building setback from water bodies) requires that all buildings shall be set back not less than 75 feet from all tidal waters, other than Long Island Sound. Yours very truly, a ~/P~ ROBERT W. TASKER RWT :aa T . . . , ..,-. r...... Southold. N.Y. 11971 (516) 765-1938 June 3, 1986 Mr. Robert W. Tasker Town Attorney 425 Main Street Greenport, NY 11944 Re: North Fork Shipyard Site plan for "Marina Bay Club" Dear Mr. Tasker: With regard to the above mentioned proposal, enclosed are copies of the following: 1. Grant from the State of New York to convey the underwater land to Young and Tuthill. 2. Grant from the Town of Southold Trustees with regard to conveyance of the underwater land. 3. Survey of the site plan for the Marina Bay Club for a marina with retail store, restaurant, post office, boat storage and docking facilities. 4. Correspondence from the agent for the applicant. Our Board has been questioned on the availablity of lot coverage credit for the property which falls beyond the bulkhead line and yet within the NY State Grant Line on this site. The Planning Board requests your opinion as to whether the land between the bulkhead and the Grant Line may be used for computating lot coverage. Thank you for your assistance in this matter. Please don't hesitate to contact our office if you require any additional information. Very truly yours, ~ct ~ lu-"J\J-vol.Jlft-- BENNETT ORLOWSKI, JR., CHAIRMAN SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD .' .'J . , \~'O~ ~~'\ ~ \\ Bennett Orlowski, Chairman Southold Town Planning Board Main Road Southold, NY 11971 Dear Mr. Orlowski: . P. O. Drawer A Jamesport, NY 11947 May 28, 1986 The question has arisen as to the availability for lot coverage credit on the Marina Bay Club site for that amount of property that falls beyond the bulkhead line and yet within the jursidiction of the New York State Grant Line. I request this so that we may finalize our lot coverage percentages and await a determination from you board and/or from the Town Attorney. HER:ml Ene. CC: Richard Carr John J. Hart, Esq. Benjamin Herzweig, Esq. 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I)f,~~ .5W~4~~ 1~f~/~. ~- -u ""';"';dM.-a.:a...:-.v :t ~ ~ i rZdv d;9...tkv. ~ -..!~;- . ,,' rnJ-y' u-j:d.- ~ F!-t~> ;Co -Lv --""",,-f~ --p.f.-~ -.. - - ~ ~ -~. ~ ..'- . ....~ ,~ - ~~- --~-..,~~---,.~, n''':-",;;.. .. ...;:_:,; ._=,::;~. ~~. ~'C _.~ ~....... -,~ --~'-' , '_.- _.~-:::::::.;:,=. . . MAY 9 - 1986 P. O. Drawer A ,Tamesport, NY ~~av 6, lqll(i 11'147 Cutchogue Fire District Commissioner New Suffolk Avenue Cu~chaque, NY 11935 Gentlemen: Enclosen please find a coPY of the site plan for the proposed improvements to the existinG New Suffolk Shipyard property. I would like vour comments and input on behalf of the applicant for vour determination of any additional fire protection that wouln be recommended on this site. I would be free to attend anv commission meeting at your convenience. Verv trulv vours, ~ c}" KfJ.J.h A-1,~ , Henrv(f. Rav~8r,'. 7Jt . HRR:ml Enc. CC: Richard Carr John J. Hart, Esq. Sol NieGo Southold Town Planning Boar~ c:ff,M. ~ \q \ e\,.. . . MAY 9- - P. O. Drawer A Jamesnort, NY Mav 6, 1qRfi nq47 M~. Chuck Bowman La~d Vse Company North Countrv Roan Wading River, NY 11792 Dear Mr. Bowman: Last night we met with the Southo1n ~own Planning Board with regard to riarina Bay Club. It is requested that you forward a report to the P1anninq Board on the propo~ed dredge spoil for a determination of anv heavv metal concentrate. Please send this to the attention of Jim Beyers as it is at his request. n~:t l:e;rR~._.rtJ ,~, ~~~. R~~~'Jf: HER:m1 CC: Richard Carr John J. Hart, Southo1d Town Esq. Pl~nninq Boar~ (::tR,1--l clq \ ~ O\le>l" -'~"" '-~"'. ...,~...--. '-;':'-:-""""'':"-r~ ".".~:,-"..,.-.,~:..Oi', C'~~':-''''-'.''-'''':"'-'''':'''---;';''':'.:_'' :;;;'" '/;='" . . 'fA U)1 -~' I' 8 Jw.. +986 New Suftolk. '.Y. 1.'%6 Sotttl101d Town1'1annlng Boare! Town. 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HERZWEIG PELLETREAU 8 PELLETREAU ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW 20 CHURCH STREET - SOX 110 PATCHOGUE. NEW YORK 11772 TEL.516 475 5656 ROBERT 5. PELLETREAU (18QI-jQ43J RICHARD A. SCHOENF'"ELD (IQSO-IQsa) ROBERT H. PELLETREAU OF" COUNSf:L. .AL.SO ADMITTEO IN F'LORIOA April 8, 1986 Mr. Henry Raynor 320 Love Lane Mattituck, NY 11952 Re: Marina Bay Club Project Dear Henry: Pursuant to your recent request, enclosed please find one copy of a deed executed November 29, 1960, between Ruth Houston and James Arthur Kenniff. Please note on the second page there is a subject to provision specifically limiting the property for use as a boatyard or marina or any other business associated with the operation of a boatyard business. Also enclosed you will find the deed from Jennie C. Tuthill to Ruth C. Tuthill dated October 16, 1944 which appears to be the predecessor deed which, among other things, purports to convey land underwater previously conveyed by the State of New York. Lastly, I have enclosed a photocopy of a hand- written grant from New York State purporting to convey the underwater bay bottom to Young and Tuthill. As you look through these documents, you will notice that there is a grant from the Southold trustees which is indicated in pen. Should you have any questions, please call. Very truly yours, PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU 11-'^'/ 'jvY) Benjamin L. Herzweig BLH:gm enc. C~J\ 4-.l D-<@..o ~ .' . . PE:TEA V. SNYDER ..JOHN ,J. HART ..JOHN oJ. ROE,IIl FREDERIC L. ATWOOD oJ. TIMOTHY SHEA BRUCE T. WALLACE KEVIN A. SEAMAN VANESSA M. SHEEHAN- BENJAMIN L. H ERZWEIG PELLETREAU 8 PELLETREAU ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW 20 CHURCH STREET - BOX 110 PATCHOGUE. NEW YORK 11772 TEL. 516 475-5656 ROBERT S. I=>ELLETREAU (teel-t~"3) RICHARD A. SCHOENFELD (IO!iO-te801 ROBERT H. PELLETREAU OF' COUNSEL -ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA May 1, 1986 Town of Southold Planning Board Main Road Southold, NY 11971 MAY 5. 1986 Attention: Bennett W. Orlowsky, Jr. Re: Marina Bay Club Dear Mr. Orlowsky: In regard to the submission of a site plan for the construction of a marina as proposed by our client and which will be considered by the Planning Board on May 5, 1986, we have been authorized to advise you of the following. Simultaneously with our client taking title to the subject property, our client will allow a covenant to be placed against the property which will preclude the proposed boat slips for any useage associated with full time residential occupancy. Very truly yours, PELLETREAU & PELLETREAU D.14jC4nM. j }j ~ Iff'" Benjamin L. Herzweig BLH:gm ,_._.,._.....,,,...,,.,...-.,._~........,"=.- , , . AP~ 9 1986 ,. . , SHAMROCK PROPERTIES CORP. 350 FIFTH AVENUE ROOM 1826 NEW YORK. NEW YORK 10118 212.868-4777 RICHARD T. CARR PRESIDENT January 30, 1986 Joseph Fenton, Esq. Jackson street New Suffolk, New York 11956 Dear Joe: I sincerely appreciated your letter and comments regarding the proposed Marina Bay Club. All my career I've always felt that a face to face meeting regardless of the issue generally tends to sort out any differences and gives one a better opportunity to see the other guy's point of view. AS I told you, I believe it's not only good business sense, but also the facts of life today, that any developer wishing to develop a piece of property has as his partner the community affected. we, too, want to be a good n~ighbor~ For the record, as I discussed with you, the thrust of this project is in no way to evolve into a residential community. It's meant for recreation boaters and I will covenant to that effect utilizing whatever language the appropriate attorneys devise. My attorney, at the time of the Town Board hearing you alluded to in your letter, felt that we were merely seeking to go on record to preserve a right, more a legal philosophy rather than having a specific plan in mind. In the many architectural refinements we launched in trying to come to a workable business plan, one view was to float the restaurant on a barge for traffic reasons and for a greater ambiance. That design survived only a few days as ou~ environmental engineer, when he had his turn to critique the plan, put us back on terra firma stating that the DEC, and others, wouldn't approve it. Meanwhile the hearings took place and hence the viewpoint arose as Bill Moore expressed it. Item No. two in your letter, i.e. the inclusion of a pool can be also dealt with quickly for the reason as you well point out. My consultants are the authors of that item and their logic is that it sounded like a good idea at the time. As I told you it isn't a make or break item and in recanvassing my people after our meeting they concur. There will be no pool. \./ C@'\j , , .: .. tr ~ \?vf \U ,J . . PAGE 2 , Joseph Fenton, Esq. As for item #3 in your letter, parking is indeed a problem and it is our most difficult issue to solve after the marine engineering problem of dealing with the chop and surge of an exposed marina. (we're still refining that to engineer it more economically). We reduced the size of the overall project along with changing its mix to come up with a parking balance and ratios that are not only permitted within the Codes, but also make good business sense. I'm sure you and the neighbors can readily appreciate that a traffic jam is in neither of our interests. who wants to wait in their car looking for a space to buy a loaf of bread or go to eat? As of now, we are self contained on the site for the uses we are planning. Depending upon the economic results, we will adjust the business emphasis as a balancing act between say storage and parking. I would be less than sincere if I told you that as of today we have a definitive use for each parking space. While there will be more than enough spaces based on today's Codes and today's business plan for the project, the actual micro balance and allocation will be a function of our actuaL business experiences. In short, if we need spaces for the restaurant we simply won't store boats there. Lastly, I feel that in the main our interests merge in that the community will want to see this project a financial success. A greater disaster couldn't befall us as to have it go bankrupt somewhere down the line. The taint and mess that those situations create, as I'm sure any business person has witnessed, should be avoided if at all possible. So the project has to fulfill several goals at the same time, i.e. to fit into and within the community and at the same time be a desirable and profitable enterprise. While we have been meeting and corresponding, my attorneys and representatives are scheduled to meet with the Planning Board on February 10. Since you've indicated in your letter and at our meeting that if the points of concern were appropriately and satisfactorily dealt with that the project should receive community support. If at all possible, prior to that meeting, I would like to know if I have met your criteria or in the alternative to meet again, if necessary, to review any items remaining of concern. , . . Joseph Fenton, Esq. page 3 Again, thanks for giving me the opportunity to deal with the issues prior to advancing the project to such a point that our views could have become 'separated. I'll look forward to hearing from you. Sincerely, (jJ~ ~ CC: Planning Board Members Henry Raynor Paul Leary patrick Callahan Jack Fisher Vincent Tese John J. Hart, pelletreau & pelletreau Edward J. Martin, Shea & Gould - . _R 2 v -I::Jd6 PETI!:R V. SNYDER .JOHN ..s. HART .JOHN ..s. RO!:,1I1 rREDEFtIC L. ATWOOD ..s. TIMc)THY SHEA BRUCE T. WALLACE t(EVIN .... SEAMAN VANESSA M. SHEEHAN. BEN.JAMIN L. HERZWEIG PELLETREAU a PELLETREAU ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW 20 CHURCH STREET - BOX 110 PATCHOGUE. NEW YORK 11772 TEL. 516 475-5656 R08ERT S. PELL.I!:TREAU (1881-1....3) FueHARD A. SCHOENI"ELO (18eO-le.0) ROISERT H. I='ELLETFU!.AU 01" COUNSEL -ALSO ADMITTED IN FLORIDA April 7, 1986 . . Joseph Fenton, Esq. Jackson Street New Suffoik, N.Y. 11956 Dear Mr. Fenton: Dick Carr has referred your letter of March 11th to us. We are acting as counsel to him. \ Mr. Carr's rights under his option agreement with the present owner of the property are fixed. It would be unwise at this time to delay for any rea~on the processing of his application before the Planning Board of the Town of Southold. An enormous amount of time and money have been'. spent in attempting to design a project which will be the best use of the property from the standpoint of both the residents of New Suffolk and the developer. As his lawyers we would vigorously oppo%e any attempt to deprive him of his right to proceed with the development of the property. Sincerely yours, . LETREAU & PELLETREAU ~I" ~;. J~ JJH/mw cc: Mr. Henry Raynor Mr. Bennett Orlowski Mr. Richard Carr ; '. APR 8 1986 . . FlETER \/. SNYDER ..JOHN ..J. HART .JOHN .... ROE., III ,.REOERIC L. ATWOOD ,J. TlMOTI-lY SI-lEA BRUCE T. W,6,LLACE KEVIN A. SEAMAN VANESSA M. SHEEHAN" SEN..JAMIN L.. HERZWEIG PELLETREAU a PELLETREAU ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW 20 CHURCH STREET ~ BOX 110 PATCHOGUE. NEW YORK 11772 TEL.516 475-5656 ROBERT S. PEL.LETREAU \le~I-''''.3) RICHARO A. SCHOENF"ELO (llinSO-leSO) ROBERT H. PELLETREAU OF' COUNSEL oA1.S0 AeMITTED IN F'I,.OI'tIDA April 7, 1986 Joseph Fenton, Esq. Jackson Street New Suffolk, N.Y. 11956 Dear Mr. Fenton: Dick Carr has referred your letter of March 11th to us. We are acting as counsel to him. Mr. Carr's rights under his option agreement with the present owner of the property are fixed. It would be unwise at this time to delay for any reason the processing of his application before the Planning Board of the Town of Southold. An enormous amount of time and money have been spent in attempting to design a project which will be the best use of the property from the standpoint of both the residents of New Suffolk and the developer. As his lawyers we would vigorously oppose any attempt to deprive him of his right to proceed with the development of the property. Sincerely yours, LETREAU & PELLETREAU NJ~ JJH/mw cc: ve: Mr. Henry Raynor Bennett Orlowski Richard Carr ~r~/~ T , . LD Southold, N.Y. 11971 (516) 765-1938 May 8, 1986 Mr. Henry E. Raynor, JR. 320 Love Lane Mattituck, NY 11952 Re: Marina Bay Club I Dear Mr. Raynor: Please-let this confirm the following action taken by the Southold Town Planning Board, Monday, May 5, 1986. RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board declare themselves lead agency under the State Environmental Quality Review Act for the site plan to be known as "Marina Bay Club" located at New Suffolk for a marina with retail store, restaurant, post office, boat storage and docking facilities. The Board also discussed the possiblity of creating more permanent dock space for Town residents, and restricting with covenants and restrictions use of the docking for residences by boaters. It was also requested that the fire district be contacted regarding fire protection and that a copy of the dredged spoil analysis be submitted. Please contact our office if you have any questions. )i..ery truly lours, I.' VJt,.1l1U. tt Vt..oL;;,(J.M, n-., a.1'X4' BENNETT ORLOWSKI, JR., '~HAIRMAN SOUTH OLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD By Diane M. Schultze, Secretary . JOSEPH FENTON . ~PR 28 1986 ATTORN~ AT LAW JACKSON STREET NEW SUf"f"OLK, N. Y.11956 (516) 734-5099 April 2a. 1986 Mr. Bellllett OrlowUi, Chai1'lllan Plann1118' Board ToVll ot Sothold Southold, J.Y. 11971 Re: Borth 'ork Shipyard Site Ifew Suttolk Dear Sir: I uaderstand that a tinal site plan with respect to the proposed developaent ot the above property is to be considered at a Plann1118' Board .eetill8' to be held on Ma7 5, 1986. I re8'}l8cttully request an opportuai ty to lI&ke CODent at that .eeUII8' concernill8' the ple, .ore partic- ularly relaUII8' to (llut not Ua1ted to) Section 100-134 D (a) or the Southolcl Code, on ay OVll behalf and ae Chai:naan ot the Coaittee estabUshed by the c_1UI1ty to deal with various proposals which have been _de to develop the Bite. Respecttully, Ei?t~ ~ /l/(/eiP . "R 14 1986 PETEIII V. SNYOER ..JOHN ..J. HART ..JOHN..J. ROE,II1 F"REDER1C L. ATWOOD BRUCE T. WALLACE KEVIN A. SEAMAN VANESSA M.SHEEHAN* PELLETREAU a PELLETREAU ATTORNEYS AND COUNSELLORS AT LAW 20 CHURCH STREET - BOX 110 PATCHOGUE, NEW YORK 11772 TEL 516 475-5656 ROBERT S. PELLETREAU HBliU-l!il43} RICHARD A.SCHOE.NF'"ELD (19!50-1950) F;!OBERT H. PELLE-TREAU. OF" COUNSEL * ALSO ADMITTED IN I""LOFllDA April 7, 1986 Mr. Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Southold Town Planning Board Main Road Southold, N.Y. 11971 Dear Mr. Orlowski: We have been furnished with a copy of Mr. Leary's letter to you. We take issue with his characterization of our client as a "businessman outsider" who has a "mischievous determination to cheat the public in favor of private interests~. As you are aware, Mr. Carr has been most receptive to the needs and wishes of the people of New Suffolk. He intends, however, to develop the property in an economically viable fashion taking advantage of his property right as an upland owner. He does not seek more than the Town has given to other marina owners. He does not intend, however, to settle for less. We appreciate the continuing interest of the Planning Board in this project which will improve a property which has been allowed to run down. Sincerely yours, PE~U~f P~LETREAU JOHW J:F JJH:mw cc: Mr. Richard Carr Mr. Henry Raynor ~ ~'tl \'!jP ~ ~ T . LD Southold. N.Y. 11971 (516) 765-1938 3/28/86 Re: Marina Bay Club (North Fork Shipyard) Dave-- Would you please review this correspondence and attachment and advise m~ as to a response for Mr. Leary. Thanks, Ul()1\i . . MAR 27 1903 22 March, 1986 New Suffolk, N.Y. 1195t Mr. Bennett Orlowski, Jr Southold Town Planning Board Town Hall Main Road Southold, N.Y. 11971 Dear Mr. Orlowski: Your office was kind enough to supply us recently with copies of various documents relating to the proposed Carr develop- ment of the North Fork Shipyard property here in New Suffolk. Among the papers is a site sketch, date stamped 20 Pebruary, 1986, from one of Carr's consultants, a Manhattan marine engineering firm. It alarms us that this sketch extends the proposed marina area eastward into the bay 150 feet beyond the architect's rendering and beyond, as well, the State's nineteenth century grant, giving the businessmen outsiders another two acres of bay bottom to play with. (See attached copy.) If the sketoh in fact represents the developer'S intentions (and how can it not do so?), it bespeaks a mischievous determination to oheat the public in favor of private interests. We would be happy to meet with you in this matter. But most of all, we hope to reoeive a prompt respon8~ and a sympathetio one,to this letter. /~~elY yo~rs, ~J ( Paul Lea~ for the New Suffolk Civic Assooiation 010l-L '3-~I-KL, T . Southold. N.Y. 11971 (516) 765-1938 DAVE-- We received a new site plan for Marina Bay Club (North Fork Shipyard) Would you please review and advise if it is acceptable to schedule a presubmission conference? The new plan is dated March 25, 1986 and there is a Van Tuyl Survey showing bottom contours and existing things on the site. Diane _ .....o,olatorAccountNo. to b. billed:1 Da.., 'r......-..~=-..;;..~... f?}^~ PurIPII/ PriIrtly......1 Pr1orIty........IO".rnivht ~V.\ht letler o..rnlehl p~ 0.".... \0<.." ...._;dt SeN\w Up 10 <<lO .,.;10. i ..' ,'. Nome Sonder'. Ar-.;r Code/Phone Number 0 RecIpient', Nam. (n L, 675417470 Sol Compa~ No_ :"~ Niero ,.1s. Company Name Dia.ne Sc.hultze ( ) D.."t.jSu;te ~ " Southold lown Plannin~ Board Street Addreu (P.O. 60ll numb..,. not d.~v.t'CIbl.) sv..t Add""'; "', Sencler'ISig....... \' "" T,'" ....,.m 8M.' --'---1 Orilllln Alrpoit De1t/N;Jtlon Airport 0.,9,10 0. '\ h. ~ . ~t:u ~ - "" P.O.clrhfeNne.NUinbe. '< e Third Party IINI", Na.../ Add..... "'- Valuation Cod. A........nt CaOe ...""",nt TOIOI Cho",. 5peclalChar;. Doe PORCUrTOR USE ONLY ,~ Bl-3 R.... 9.84 RECIPIENT'S COPY . T . LD Southold, N.Y. 11971 (516) 765-1938 March 5, 1986 Saland Realty Attn: Margaret Drawer A Main Road Jamesport, NY 11947 Re: Marina Bay Club Site Plan Dear Margaret: At Mr. Raynor's request, enclosed is a site plan check list indicating all the required site plan elements with regard to the above mentioned site plan. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact our office. Very truly yours, ~ru..-t+- OrlccoA.~)~ BENNETT ORLOWSKI, JR., CHAIRMAN ~ SOUTH OLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD By Diane M.Schultze, Secretary enc. . .. .MAt2tNA_&.yCwe 7).e,;zu.. etP -- --_.. -. \NL ~"'''''''.JO .5l<..e-~Mt:n.ilN6Q".11fL"" l'l'(:;:; .G~.rLJ...I~ _ 'W_>-\r..,. \'5 <T ? ~;;;;; ~--U/'- ,w, ,'-'-''''"...........~" ,,"""-"'~ ',J.,.,. III..~,~, 'C""" ._~_'71 .... tMylJt"..y~U"-'14]~l ?( &::t1.e<. PE7J!~.S.1df'9 ~Tt;.,.~~O @\$r::t/lE.t.4N.c;..) '7.~ JAN+/ouI:UJE1.-t>~~DG._W_ ..P.&. f'r.JT.Q!,!.11lE:... Nl~aEI-"'~ -.6L5Q .... Lt,k:.l-uPIO:.. =UUr:;,lN6"" -::.. . L-..&..l;)S:::;AP~ ~l--l. -:- ~V,) 'NIJ...L. I/J~ i=A~~U\l.G. '?TAbL-~.P..!:"'_DI~'61c:,W'S},j~_. --:c::auTbu~ MIQ:.o:ro .l:t:-~w (~I""TI!.Y<. ~"Js>I:2Ol9:::l=ec.J - ~1~"fAeC:> .....e..T,..~ --:me.~ t:;a(jr ~.= n/e..~-exl~AJ4 -e.=r-....BACk:;s (Z-~J"'Y.~~-4 ~~r) ./ - cu. Yt:;>.S CYe.)(Cd>..\JJ:,.-na.~ - "''(1"1;;;, . Q" M{\re\i21A-=(~T }!;C)e::1~6 MAC ~. eeQUII~.e:C)-4.hlD '>N-I\~~ l;;.l",fQ:;.~ ~_(D~~..6~I..YSJSJ _ I I b~~~: - 5* ~ 1L2 ~nI<l:.MoVt::::c~~crl"'(C.t::,. :;l t=>6. 'iA~.-- 0""'1 ~JH(~ R~Lllge....~ cY t:.NGlNe.."D. AI'1'aJI/AL..:s .. ~,,)r --_____.__u_ .. . . ~-~~, T Southold, N.Y. 11971 (516) 765-1938 March 4, 1986 Mr. Henry E. Raynor, Jr. 320 Love Lane Mattituck, NY 11952 Re: Marina Bay Club Dear Mr. Raynor: Please let this confirm the requests of the Planning Board, of Monday, March 3, 1986 regarding the above mentioned site plan. The following items were requested and discussed: ~ Reduce the transient boat slips to provide more docking facilities for Townspeople. /2. Type of surface in the parking area. ~. Possiblity of variances regarding set-backs. 4. Number of jObs to be created. ~u t..A'l" 5. Amount of dredging involved. 6. Proposed grading. 7. Survey indicating the acutal property owned, including NYS grant line. ~. Indication as to what will be done to improve Main Street, if anything. 9. Placement of underground storage tanks away from the water. 10. Boring holes to determine the type of dredge spoil which would be present. . 'J . . ... Mr. Henry E. Raynor, Jr. Page 2 3/4/86 ------------------------------------------------------- It was the consensus of the Board to conduct a field inspection of the premises and forward any additional comments to you regarding this site plan. Mr. Emilita has also requested that he be present with the Board when the field inspection is made and any additional comments which he may have will also be forwarded to you. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact our office. Very truly yours, ~~SK~~~~~~ SOUTH OLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD By Diane M.Schultze, Secretary ---------- . \ , .- .- . . . t n I e g 0 a s s 0 C I a e s 600 hempstead turnpike, west hempstead, new york 11552 sol niego, architect a.i.a. fEB ,2 0 1986 February 19, 1986 Ms. Diane Schultze Southold Town Planning Board Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Re: Marina Bay Club First Street New Suffolk, New York Dear Ms. Schultze: In addition to the latest plans sent to you last week on the above referred to project, I am enclosing six (6) copies of an alternate marina layout prepared by the engineering firm of Dravo Van Houten for your Board's review together with the review of my previously submitted site plans. If you have any questions about the enclosed, please do not hesitate to call me. SN / jag erely, "'o('~ . Sol Architect/A. I.~ CC: Richard T. Carr Henry Raynor Enclosure (6) architects & planners 516-486-5340 "urolator Account No. to be billed: I ea.: PrllrllrlilllnllOv.millht S.rvice up 10 400 mile, S"nde 'Ma Code/PhORll Numbllr 0 Recipient', NaIM 675417775 CompanyNClIM SuI l'i.i~l!;U $." Strut Addl'Hf~ ( .~ ), , camJ;~meB';'c"""1l;: S,-tu...lt~~ ( ) OIlpt./Suite St"et~M~WL1e:;Q.,!WeJ'tJ.U.U":"U6 B ua...d ., . Main Road H .<>y City 'Sender'ISillnalu.. '< ' P.O. or"""""" Number Sou hold Third Party 11IIIn, Nanw/ Addrus T.... 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FES 6 1986 February 5, 1986 To The Planning Board: I read with interest and approval the article entitled "Don't Mess With the Planners" which appeared in the January 30, 1986 issue of The Suffolk Times. I was heartened to see that you are looking very carefully at applications submitted to your board. I am sending each of you a re-print of an article which appeared in The New York Times last August (1985). Perhaps you have already seen it. If so, I think it deserves a second look; if not, please read and consider the information carefully. It occurs to me that the time has come for action on the North Fork to be as firm and decisive as that of East Hampton. Perhaps the time is past due - I hope not. There is need for vision and courage on the part of those of you who hold positions of authority- vision for the long view and courage for the moment. There are many of us and generations to come who will hold you accountable for your actions. Finally, regarding an application that is close to my heart (and my home), I hope your review will be to the letter. There are those of us who will be looking at it right along with you. I refer to the application submitted by your former chairman, Henry Raynor (isn't life full of little surprises~ or maybe not) for Marina Bay Club/North Fork Shipyards, New Suffolk. Keep re-reading this article, gentlemen. We have everything to lose. Sincerely, ~~ Linda Fletcher Kimogenor Point Box 79 New Suffolk, New York 11956 734-6775 cfo' ~~fffJ?J d ~L{ a-~-~ '\ mistake about it: We are Vf'ry strict," she said. . The town 008rd SOY' It is not &galnst all growth. The master plan encourages the bI/ilding of moder. ately priced houseo, The town has IdentIlled 14.900 undeveloped resl- dentiallots; about 6,600 are zoned lor bou.o;;es OIl one acre or less. But the bourd Is strongly opposed to large. luxury developments. The approval of the 18.3 mllilon purchase , of 510 acres in Northwest Harbor capped ~8 months of negotiations be- tween East Hampton and the pr0p- erty'. owner. Manhattan art dealer Ben Heller. Under the agreement. Mr. Heller received preliminary ap- prova1last month to bulld 30 _ on lOll acres that he will retain. Loal1 OtfIclala said that the voters' willingness to pay for preser- vation undera<:ot'ed the depth of their feeling for East Hampton'a rural qUalltles. Many foundations. COr-A I rations and part-time residenta have - allO offered support. "We promised . , 811d we dellvered." S~ Hope ,'sald. "We dld It quicklY, precisely and rlght,out in the 0pIen. and some people didn't lille It." Amimg thetn Is Jo,hn T, .... _ y... _/VIe _ McGowan. an attm'ney and developer ,., ..' whole plan to build 250}""""", on :;so . . UiiI changei have wlthstocld court challl!l)ges. " acres In Hither Woods ran afou1 of the new 2IOIIiDg. Mr. :(lil William EssekS. an attorney who baa ,epu.sented a ' McGowan reapplled la8t:tear to build 100 houses on his . il\lmber of developers. said that even when a proposal ',. land, but atIll COIl\d not win approval, "Now that we IIled ~ the new zoning requlrementa the planning board: ;. "plan for live .cres," he said, "It WOuldn't surprl5e me If Otteft IIeta lip a4ditlonal restrictions that make It tinap- :,..they, came...... with IOIIIething elIe." , ~. "They'lIonlyallOWWhatnoonewanta,"hesald".. ;..'rheyhave. Tcnm offlclala are-'<ing money from j~~':that'. the way you stop plop1e from develOpIng:,' '. . \~ tblllItIlteaad SUffoIkCOuntytopurchaae Mr. McGowan's '.\ '1IIP.upuuedl8 of growth. contencUhat It creates jobs 'f' pI.......l', lIIroiJchconcl-....tIon If..... -ry. Mrs. . Hope , IIlld stimulates the local economy. They a\aO eaythal,., imp\Ied that town teIidenta will again be asked to con- <' ..... ,of those.most opposed to cIe\>eIoIDIIflDt are them"..,.trlbute. ~'''AI1.of US haVe seen areas around the .,. ieIYei I.e- to East Hampton. However, Debra '". c:du1Itry aad the 'IOOrld spoiled by wer-development." ,p~, theplallnlng boardchaltman, said the town must .,,!::" ('..-I...... ....-u T. ParsonI said. "We are going to ,.pItIIeClltoelf, parllclIIarly.lta ....ter supply; "Make 110 _.atadI here and protect this town fd\;'the future." "",(' . ,.., . ' i; ':'f II' . . .',' ,', . _ ".' ',' 0',..'" -, ". (_ ,. "0.,. '," . . ~', ? , ~ .il '=~'_":_' ne; Can ,East Hampton Slam the Door, on Developers? -IJ'-r(;....8fy!~ . '< . . . : . . . . . '" ,", ,., JOlIN lA11fER . .. r ," . '. \ -/ East ~d:':':'ThIs summer, as In years . past. the pOnds, marshes. woods aad beaches for which East HamploII18 tamoua have beckoned vacationers. But ! c the town'. 14,lIOOflIII-tlJbeWslclenta, WhogrewconCllrned ''lD recent years that tod mUch)and was being soclificed ,. . for "'-'nmlnlUlni'llDd beildI boU8eI, ate now breathing ',' ; i 88Il8r.-.,' \~~~W',1t4,i;-' ':.-, "~;' <' Two years aao.. new majority was elected to the town bolIid after proial8Iq to halt the_laught of devel. opment,aad Iatelylt.bU\IelPiD JIIIIklDg good on Ita word.. . EarlIer th\I ytat, the town, which lDcludes East Hamp- tod, Sag B8ibcir; MGbIauk. Al\I....~. parta of Brldg&- . halIIploII aadolhet(coalIh1lllltles lIIYthe eastern tip of Loo& 181and's iOuIb, fort. Di!llOlIatedto buy 510 acres of _eloped 18Dd.11Ie $6.3 mIIUon purchase, approved In . a JUlIe refereadulll, wau1d end the current owner'. plans for 235 condominiums 011 the wooded, waterfront lite. . 1'mmofflda1a call the .Clq1IlSltlon the largest ever .at. _pled by a New .YorIt tcnm. It followed a one-year moratorium 011 majbt bou8lDI deVe1cipmenlS, revisions , " of East RamploIi"IIIlI8uirJ'IaD aad. sweeping raonIng, , all Of which were aIiiI.lntlDdedto curb growth. Next on , , the qelICIa, IclcaI Offlcl8ls ISY. may be the purchaae 01 , .' much of the JarPet .-aItWII~l8pace In East Hamp. too, the BIllItr WClOCll ~ Ml1iItauL. Otbec, But SlId lilwIIlI a1ao fIlce II swellllll demand for lumry bou8bla ftOaI ~ c:lt)' dwellers and 8Ubur. . baDltes 1eeIdD8'-'p$, 'J'wlI years..... the Southamp,ton i' Tcnm_......~..dthe.e......db&of28.lIOOac:reitroma. . mhllmum lot of * *<rill to u,. acree, The board said that qponnt.. IlIIl101l IlIl 01. the .towiI'l undeveloped laad , ... ......rrr.ry.to protect ground water ~ and to . preserve SoUthampton'l.fUt8I c:har1lc!ter. 'Oibet towns i. have a1ao resot!ed.to iDoratorl1lias aad zoning chsnges to ~ ,haItdev~'.,.I" .... But IIOWbel'e lIII Loni I8IaDd bU the effort to limit growtb been." deliberate or Is comprehensive as In 'EastIlaD\plOO. The_....... cade..approvedlast year. . has lIbaI'ff~. ~~"'Ii of.~ aad condo- i' I, '/ > t , f' o '. , . m\nIumi. It allows the planning board to mandate that ,housing be clustered together, leaving at least half of 'iarp IlUbdivlslons uncle\'eloped. It a\aO roles out neW moteI8 aad condomInIUD18 _ spota along East HIlmp- 'l<IIi'. coveted ahoreIIne, to prevent. the explosion of moteI8 aad cilndos, which over the last 10 years has . lrauolfoamed the oceanfront In Napeague, just west of . Montauk. "PrIor town boards gave Napeasue, away," said Jildith Hope, the East Hampton Sup8rvIsor. DeYeIopers with grand plane for opulent prIvale communities In scenic locales have fought back with law. sulta. TIter c:onteDd that East H.mpton'l new IOII\ng Is 8IduaIIinary aad vIoIBtes their rI8hta. Thus far, tOe zon.. ~-, ~ '\~ . ",.: ~., -;..-,-._;, FE Er 8 m.@~ _! ':__:: '-'::_~I~~'L~/:.t..::, . . . . : fo .. 'JAN 27 RfC'D JOSEPH FENTON ATTORNEY AT LAW JACKSON STREET NEW SUFFOLK, N. Y. 11956 (516) 734'5099 January 23, 1986 Mr. Richard Carr 444 East 86th Street New York, NY Re: North Fork Shipyard Site Dear Richard: I am writing to thank you for the opportunity to meet with you for the purpose of discussing your plans for the shipyard site. As you know, the committee, which was selected by the community to deal with the attempt .by Marine Associates, Inc. to rezone the property and build condominiums there, is still alive. I act as its chairman. The yard has been the focal point of New Suffolk for the past century and a half, so that what is done here will, to a large degree, dictate what happens to the community during the next century. That is why we have so keen an interest in your plans, and our future. We live here. You do not. We were delighted to hear that one of our main concerns with respect to the most recent plan will be resolved satisfactorily. I expressed our deep seated concern that the 40 slips that are earmarked "permanent" might be used by boat owners in lieu of their residences, summer, week-end, vacation or otherwise. An occasional overnight by transients is no problem, so long as live aboard uses are not regular and continuous. Your assurance and willingness to enter into an appropriate covenant which will prevent this sort of use is both comforting and refreshing. We didn't want 24 condominium units. We certainly don't want 40 (or 80) live aboard substitutes. Your attorney, William Moore of Pelletreau & Pelletreau of Patchogue, at the Town Board's August 13, 1985 hearing concerning legislation with respect to houseboats, floating homes and other live-aboard vessels, expressed concern on your behalf that the proposed definition of floating homes was too broad. He mentioned a "floating restaurant" possibility, and suggested that permanent uses, not transient, should be regulated through a permit process, without ruling them out all together. He indicated that the thrust of your development would perhaps be out on the water to "loosen up his actual land property." It is our position C;-~ \ ~ a-" -i'c '. . . Mr. Richard Carr -2- January 23, 1986 that while this would maximize your use of the property and might be economically desirable from your standpoint, it over-intensifies the entire property's use, on both land and under water, and can make a mockery out of things like parking and other code requirements. We would probably oppose a floating restaurant at the site, although it is unfair to take a position without seeing an entire proposal. It would take away from recreational marine use of the property and its compatibility with NY State's Coastal Management Program, to which the Town of Southold subscribes, would be open to question. A copy of the official transcript of Mr. Moore's remarks, which speak for themselves, is enclosed. We are also concerned about, and opposed to your inclusion of a swimming pool at the site, and have not been reassured or satisfied by your reasons for its inclusion. In the time I spent with you the only points you made for its justification were that all your advisors had recommended it, and that there was a pool at a marina at Sterling Harbor. Unanimity of advisors' advice is an excuse, not a reason. The logic behind the advice never emerged - merely a vague impression that this would somehow enhance the project - make it more first class _ or perhaps bring it in line with what others are doing. I tried to point out to you that the pool at the marina in Greenport was an adjunct of a resort hotel, Townsend Manor Inn, and, as such, was a necessity to the Inn, given the nature of swimming in 'Sterling Harbor. There is no motel in your plan and we do not expect you to create one by enabling users to bring their own rooms in the form of their boats. There is an excellent sandy beach at the South end of the property which can provide equivalent facilities, and such use of Peconic Bay will act to keep the area free of pollution by the boat owners. Our own public beach is only a few hundred feet away, and we intend to see that no step is taken which will undermine its cleanliness. A swimming pool will not encourage your boat tenants to keep the bay clean. Their use of the bay to swim in, will. You, yourself, pointed out that the pool would be located at the edge of the property, that people would have to weave in and out of parked cars to reach it, and that hardly anyone used a similar pool at another marina, or were likely to use this one. So much the more reason not to include One in your plan. Nor do we want our young people, or older inebriates, as trespassers or late night revelers, diving into the shallow end of the pool and killing or maiming themselves. Why not lower your insurance premiums and avoid the cost of maintaining a pool and/or providing a life guard. Please reconsider. Lastly, we are concerned with traffic and parking. The plan indicates sufficient parking, I understand, within the requisite code. However, this may well be illusory if, in fact, except in summer months, boats will be stored in some of these parking spaces. While it may be unfair to expect you to maintain every parking space in winter months, you must realize that the plan calls for more intensive boat slip use than in , . . . Mr. Richard Carr -3- January 23, 1986 the past, and less boat yard support for such increased use (another reason for relegating the swimming pool space to boat yard facilities). If we are to plan intelligently we must recognize that, more and more, the community is becoming a year 'round one, and since the financial focus of your plan is the success of the restaurant, this may absorb the spaces in winter as well as summer. Moreover, you will inevitably experience overflow from "Bonnie's By-The-Bay" who have no parking facilities. I'm sure the Planning Board wll study the traffic and parking situation carefully. Some of the land at the site derives from the 1838 underwater grant from the people (about l~ out of 3~ acres). .The Surveyor General's description clearly demonstrates that everything east of the foot of Main Street (the then high water mark) is subject to the grant's conditions. If you will draw a line from the beach at the South end of the property to where the beach resumes at the North end, it crosses the end of Main Street just as the Surveyor General said it did in 1838. The grant was given ......for the purpose of promoting the commerce of this State, and for no other object or purpose whatsoever...... It goes on to include ......actually appropriate and apply all and every part of the above described lands to the purposes of commerce....... While your plans may not necessarily meet the commerce condition, we are not interested, at this time, in debating this with you. All we ask is, that you give our stated views your consideration. The commercial element of the grant is an important one. We would like the emphasis to be commercial. We would not like to end up with a giant play-pen, too big for our community. New Suffolk's history and character are more consistent with commerce and we are interested in perpetuating its character. After the demise of the boat yard, and the abortive rezoning attempt, you appeared to be just what we wanted. You offered to keep the site as a marina, continue a restaurant, the post office and provide a general store (among others) for newspapers and necessities. We are generally supportive of your plans and appreciate what you have done so far. The scale of the project scares some of us. If we can satis- factorily resolve the poirits we discussed, the committee and the bulk of the community will, I believe, be pleased to endorse your plans. I am sending a copy of this letter to the Planning Board so that they become aware of our positions as they develop. Sincerely, JF:es cc: Planning Board Henry Raynor Paul Leary Patrick Callahan Jack Fisher Vincent Tese, Esq. Joseph Fenton , . . . . j/4. / ' 72 ,I /~ ,3~1 !fCr)/AL~ - . ..........J .,......' ......1 Ih,'L'<>,,-,I__~~,"', - SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Anyone else on my left? (No response.) Anyone here in the middle? Sir? WILLIAM MOORE, Attorney. Pelletreau & Pelletreau, Patchogue: I am formerly from Riverhead. I'm also a resident of Southold and am here this evening on behalf of Dick Carr, who as you may remember. is hoping to redevelop the New Suffolk Ship- yard area with a marina. He asked me to come tonight and raise a couple of questions for you to consider. One is: will this or should this proposed legislation affect property owners who own property lying underneath the waters? Don't know. I can't tell whether it applies to them or not from the definitions. whether Town waters or not. The second is: recognizing, and it was pointed out, that the primary concern being those water craft being used for residential purposes. Whether or not your definition of floating home is not a little broad. I'm not sure if you'd like to see in Town something like a floating restaurant at some point. That's something that falls within the floating home definition. I would suggest perhaps that you leave it to the residential definition that you were working on and if it's business or retail uses down the road perhaps--it was raised in the letter you read earlier--about the necessary permits for sewering and things like that. That certainly could be considered. You don't have to rule these things out completely. but if we allow them as these kind of uses. not transient. but they be permanent and regulated through a permit process to make sure that the problems we're worried about don't become a reality. without ruling them out all together. I'm not sure if this not too broad. but there are certain projects that could come in and his project in particular. It's a small piece of property that owns substantial amount of underwater land. He's got his architects playing around with it and trying to see if he can't develop some way to put some of the uses out on the water. I t would loosen up his actual land property. I don't know if that--we haven't come before you with that and you're smiling already--and it"s not even been drawn. His architect--we're just talking about it. COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Thanks for the warning. MR. MOORE: You're welcome. We're a ways down the road as yet. COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: I have a feeling this is the last time we'll ever hear you and Mr. Fenton speak on the same side of any issue. MR. MOORE: In any event. I'd like you to consider--rather than a blanket prohibition of these things. consider permit process for those that would be permanent. Thank you. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you. Is there anyone else would like to make any comment at all? JOHN BREDEMEYER. Southold Town Trustee: I should surely hope if eggs are to be thrown that a few Trustees catch them. We're the ones that more or less sponsored the legislation and there's a history behind it. We felt that we'd try to pattern it after some that had previously been tested. or there was a case history. Unfortunately the section that seems to have gotten everyone rather upset. including myself, when I reread it again just recently and did a little analysis on it. is this houseboat section and that was the one section in the model law we had which wasn't tested and the courts even said so. So apparently with this flaw we should go back to the drawing boards. It seems. depending on how you read it, it can be read any two or three different ways. so I guess I would have to stand with that feeling also. I didn't quite know that this. in fact. is what it says. We can't do this to our cabin cruisers and other boats and in the community which are basically interested. I think, in preserving what we have. I just wanted to express that. " /~ . . , - JOSEPH FENTON MAR 2 0 1986 Cgpy ATTORNEY AT LAW JACKSON STREET NEW SUFFOLK, N. Y. 11956 (516) 734-5099 March 11, 1986 Mr. Richard T. Carr, President Shamrock Properties Corp. 350 Fifth Avenue Room 1826 New York, NY 10118 Dear Dick: I returned home last week to find your letter of January 30" 1986 and to learn that the anticipated meeting with the Planning Board has' taken place. I don't think my presence at that meeting would have been all that useful, since it wasn't a meeting to invite public comment. Jack Fisher attended on the committee's behalf. It is obvious that your plans are going through constant rev~s~on. Your willingness to accommodate our concerns to the extent the economic facts permit is all we can expect and we thank you for listening and acting to so accommodate them. When the time comes, we will have to tackle the mechanics of how to accomplish what you expressed a willing- ness to covenant, how to assure that living aboard will not be permitted at the site. I think you have a pretty good idea of what we would like. Certainly Henry Raynor has as much insight about this as anyone, and we are satisfied that the Planning Board members will address our concerns adequately. Beyond this, until you arrive at a plan that suits you, it is unrealistic for you to expect the community to do more than express its concerns. Some of us would not be surprised if the Planning Board stopped entertaining presentations until such time as the rights of the litigants with respect to this property are finally determined. Other- wise they can be criticized for spending time on something that prudence suggests could be put off until your right to do this project is assured. / " ..I ,.. ..... . . -2- Mr,Richard T, Carr, President March 11, 1986 We will keep in touch with you as the matter develops, and would appreciate knowing when your right to proceed becomes incontrovert; .bIe. 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Box 728 Southold, New York 11971 TELEPHONE (516) 765-1801 OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK TOWN OF SOUTHOLD THIS IS TO CERTIFY THAT THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS ADOPTED BY THE SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD AT A REGULAR MEETING HELD ON NOVEMBER 7, 1985: WHEREAS, William D. Moore, on behalf of Richard T. Carr/Shamrock Properties, Inc., has requested that this Board waive the provisions of Local Law No. 14- 1985 with respect to his application presently pending before the Southold Town Building Inspector, and WHEREAS, this Board finds that the applicant proposes to demolish one building and reconstruct one building that was damaged by Hurricane Gloria, at New Suffolk, and WHEREAS, this Board deems such use consistent with the uses in a Marine Business District as proposed by Raymond, Parish, Pine & Weiner, Inc.'s Master Plan Update Zoning Code revisions, NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the applicant be and he hereby is granted a waiver of the provisions of Local Law No. 14 - 1985 to the extent of permitting such uses on said premises as set forth in his application presently pending before the Southold Town Building Inspector for a demolition permit and a building permit, subject, however, to the applicant obtaining any and all permits and approvals re- quired by all Town and other governmental agencies having jurisdiction thereof. ~~~~.. . Judith T. Terry {/ Southold Town Clerk I \.. . . TELEPHONE (516) 765-1892 BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 728 Southold, New York 11971 SIGNIFICANT DETERMINATION NOTICE OF SIGNIFICANT EFFECT ON THE ENVIRONMENT Date: September 25, 1985 Pursuant to the provisions of Article 8 of the Environmental Conservation Law, Part 617 of Title 6 of the New York State Codes, Rules and Regulations, and Chapter 44 of the Southold Town Code, the Southold Town Trustees, as lead agency, does hereby determine that the action described below is a type 1 action and is likely to have a Significant Effect on the Environment. DESCRIPTION OF ACTION: The Land Use Company on behalf of the Marina Bay Club to reconstruct an existing marina by the installation of 130 slips, catwalks, and floats. Area will be maintenanced dredged to 6' at mean low water. Approximately 22,000 cu. yds. of sand will be removed and placed landward of proposed 680' of new bulkhead, on property located on Main Street, New Suffolk. Further information can be obtained Henry P. Smith, President, Board of Town Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York by contacting Trustees, Southold 11971. Copies to: Charles T. Hamilton, DEC,SStony Brook Commissioner Williams, DEC, Albany Southold Town Building Department Southold Town Conservation Advisory Aram Terchunian, Coastal Management Program Town Clerk's Bulletin Board Land Use Company on behalf of Marina Bay Club Trustees File Southold Town Planning Board~ ~. "" . . TELEPHONE (516) 765-1892 BOARD OF TOWN TRt:STEES TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 728 Southold, New York 11971 September 30, 1985 THIS IS TO CERTIFY THAT THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES AT A REGULAR MEETING HELD ON SEPTEMBER 25, 1985: WHEREAS, The Land Use Company on behalf of the Marina Bay Club has heretofore applied to the Southold Town Trustees, pursuant to Chapter 44 of the Code of the Town of Southold for permission to reconstruct an existing marina by installing 130 slips, catwalks, and floats. Area will be maintenance dredged to 6' at mean low water. Approximately 22,000 cu. yds. of sand will be removed and placed landward of proposed 680' of new bulkhead, on property located on Main Street, New Suffolk. NOW, THEREFORE, IT IS RESOLVED AS FOLLOWS: 1. That pursuant to the provisions of Article 8 of the Environmental Conservation Law; Part 617. of Title 6 of the New York State Code, the Southold Town Trustees, as lead agency, does hereby determine that the action proposed is a Type I Action, and is likely to have a Significant Effect on the environment. It is noted that the Trustees have received numerous letters of concern regarding parking, sewage and fresh water. The Conservation Advisory has advised that they have questions and concerns regarding this application. 2. That the Secretary to the Trustees shall immediately file and circulate such determination as required by the aforementioned law, rules and code. 3. That the Secretary to the Trustees shall immediately notify the applicant, The Land Use Company on behalf of the Marina Bay Club and further request said applicant to prepare a Draft Environmental Impact Statement, all in accordance with said law, rules and code, with special attention to parking, sewage and fresh water as addressed in letters of concern which are attached hereto. Cd' /'it~...f ...c'-~rL..(../ ,-" 1. ./U<//L<.i Ilene Pfif er 'ling 11- Secretary To Trustees \ \..~ t . . Southo1d ~own ~rustees Southo1d Town Hall Main Road Southold, V.Y. 11971 ~ September, 1985 New Suftolk, N.Y. 1195: Gentlemen: We have heard tbat the Southold Trustees have declared themselve. the lead agency in connection witll the appUeation et Harina Bay Associate. to enlarge the tacilitie. of the North Pork Shipyard. Many of our members are concerned with the scope of the ehanges that are planned for the site, and con.equently the New SUffolk Civie Association wishes to become a party-at-interest in connection with the proceedings. We are gratified that you bave requested that the app1i- eant submit a Draft Environmental Impact Statement in order that a fUll disclosure be made of all relevant tactors. Speoifically, we believe that the DEIS ought to address itselt to the following items: Traffie, including peak-hour parking demand, peak-hour traffie per hour, peak daily traffic (over 24 hours), average daily traffic (annual), and planned valet parking. Control at the lighting required by the development. Pollution generated by the development, both by the boats using the facility and by the development itself. Berthing, ineluding the somewhat underutili.ed interior portion of the berthing area and the questionaOLe utilization of the exterior portion, taking into account storm .urge and-such extras as may be planned, including a seaplane berth. The impact on the community of the planned mixed usage __ restaurant, stores, marina, and associated activities sucb a. repair and storage. The part to be played in the development of the 19th century underwater grant ot the state. The high density ot the development. The architecture of tile develo~ment (the drawings that we have seen do not .eem like "Nantucket. to us). ~he provision. being made tor the berthing of local boats (both commercial and recreational). The plans being made to assure local resident. that the' retail establishments would include u.er-friendly stores suitable for the use of our growing population of retired people. ~he plans for First Street, including the impact on the already-existing fishing station, the launching ramp, tbe possi- bility of a Robin's Island terry and docking slip, etc. ~be possible impact ot converting the slips to "dockominiums. ". ~he impact of the increased water-usage (including tbe possible ]ability of tbe town for tile supply of publi. water .hould tbe draw-down ot tile development prove too much for tbe local delicate water table). . . Tbe effect on the local economy of the development, including tbe priority employment of local residents (tbe rationale behind the endorsement of the Suffolk County IDA.). Tbe prOblem of winter storage for the member boats. The tact that the developer already bas a building permit to replace one of tbe old boat sheds and what this means to the schedule for the development. ""__L__'" _... __.__ ___..__.__...._.lII._" , '\,._ ,x , New Suffolk shipyard development . -2- . Such accees for the local residents, visual and otherwise, as they presently enjoy to the waters of Peconic Bay. Purthe1'lllOre, we believe that the DEIS' should present the entire project as envisioned by the developer, not in piecemeal form, as well as any tuture stages that may be necessary for the economic success of the development. That is, we are con- cerned that the developer may only address the immediate aspects of his construction program, thus tending to minimi.e the various impacts of the development. Por instanoe, it appears that certain off-site parking areas may have to be ~uired by the developer in order to provide sufficient room for customers' automobiles. The Schoolhouse Creek area has been mentioned as ene suoh loeatien. Therefore, the DEIS must take into acoount both the primary and secondary impacts of such utilization. Also other secondary effects must be addressed such as the impact ot the proposed development on The Rew Suttolk Shipyard and the other slips on Schoolhouse Creek. Will the new development undermine these longtime aarine operations? Is there sutficient demand tor marina services in the area to support the new development !Ea existing facilities? In general, our concern is that the project should be tailored to the community rather than imposed upon it. We hope to hear trom you soon. Sincerely yours, ;t?~J.L ~ ~ .LJ-'f': Paul Leary for The Rew Suffolk Civic Association co: Southold Town Board tmlDEC lfYSDOS P.S.: One .final matter: 'We lfOuld like to reserve the right to COlIIIIIl!Int turther on the developer's application should additional data come :to our notice. Southold Town Trustees South old Town Hall Main Road Southold, N.Y. 11971 . !E\\~~ . SUffolk, N.Y. 11956 Dear Sir: As a resident of' New Sur1'olk, I believe that the environmental impac.t statement you are asking lIarina Bay 4ssociates to prepare on the development of the North Fork Shipyard should take up the matter of' ','Jcder p o( Ivlf-r "'-" , C~ I r r" /1\1I-hOYJ,N-c,-t+'-c.) 'A.{flJ-'1 I~sh c0~' {pro ~""-", ,u"",.{-t lie a;re a mna:u cOllllllUllity, and IIllst be concerned about our neighbors. I believe that any such development IIlUst adapt itsel1' to us rather than the other way around. Sincerely yours, l ',. " '" t, 1_, '" I' , ~ ,~" ,. ,; L uJ", ~",'t wn-rt '\' J~ J ~~1 ~ "'-- , 0. .5 ''''<'-''-'' Y' <vv~ , L .. /, 4- j I <h- (. , (U,;,v{,0 nc~ -P"0,,-, J-v.-Acy: C1\.lL^.iU::...(r)h~ J VVla.'U "'t-~ .::i. ~ eto' ,."c.:~ (.{' rU'-ti J C\..1,...(b . -0 IS. c\ l..Juoh, b=<'f vlJ...r"';- ->1~'1'/ ~ 30 ~-.::,--b oct "\('("/ z~'-"<-,+s, .:( j'l'-''--''--'l'-1 .5..f-cn: -" jJ- c' t1~ -, kee,') .~ C'\ .-t-~J,.~'j S.h+-'ci-n I ?( '--.;, Y1 .tJ-u'''.{-<''':-J -Y~f..?' "'l ('ut c-fJ,,-^-. -rhc.d;. c5 fUou G-H / I<: I YV) -r€ +T'C( cl If-. ---........--... -,~--_._- ~~ Southold Town Trustees Southold Town Hall Main Road Southold, N.Y. 11971 N.Y. 11956 \ Dear Sir: .ls a resident of' New Sur1'olk, I believe that the environmental impact statement you a;re asking lIarina Bay 4ssociates to prepare on the development or the North Fork Shipyard should take up the matter of' Jjrprl'rlc. (O!t?E)//n'r LA U/:ff/r 1)/5.?"fr.:.. }-) 'V1-)f- r r x... /) IC.... t.. n n 'Y If 1'-/ ,R ~/ IJJ:-/r 3) l7'o/fJ: fp'-'-....T~Q/?' ;)c"1Pt-6"Y'1E7IJ 'f.)' lie lil'e a mna:u communjt;y, and Est be concerned about our neighbors. I believe that any such development IIlUst adapt itsel!' to us rather than the other way around. . Sincerely yours, ~ 4; )~~ CIVIC . NEW SUFFOLK ASSOCIATION INC. ~./ L~~~~ ~ "'- POST OFFICE BOX 64' NEW S U F F 0 L K, N. Y. I 1 9 , , September 23, 1985 Southold Town Trustees Southold Town Hall Southold, New ,York 11971 Dear Sirs; The proposed Marina Bay expansion will cause additional parking problems on site, as well in the surronding residential , and Town Beach area. Enclosed please find a copy of the local town law, wherin the parking is restricted at town beaches, however an exception is made to the restriction at New Suffolk Beach, by the issuance of day permits. Due to this contradiction in Chapter 65 "Parking at Beaches~ we fear the overflow from Marina Bay will end up in the New Suffolk Town Beach ~,arking lot We as taxpayers must go to Town Hall to secure beach permits, dump permits and clamming permits. Non-reident, non-taxpayers can go directly to the beach parking lot and secure a day permit We oppose Marina Bay expansion until the local law is revised, putting New Suffolk Beach in the same class as others, that is " NG BY PERMIT ONLY" Pail f " ) I &5-1. 165.2. I 65-3. 5 65.4. 565.5. 565-6. * 65.7. ~. " DeeipatiOll of parkmg areu' -requiriDg peftmta. ParkiDg permits. . Duration of permits. Other regulations. Removal of vehicles parked in violation. Penalties for olfenoes. [HISTORY: Adopted by the Town Boord of the Town of Southold 4.7.70. Section 65-7 amended during codification; see Ch. 1. General Provisions. Article n. Other amendments noted where applicable.] ) Vehl('lr.s and tratflc - Set' CII. H. GENERAL R~FER!:N'CE8 ~ 65.1. Policy. The Town of Southold providl/S bathing beaches and recreational facilities and parking areas adjacent thereto at various locations within the town for the use and enjoyment of residents of the Town of Southold. The use of ~ ,.alities by p&80D\I other thliun-esid,hta bas iJlcnlued to euih an eUent that SUch facilities haVe become ov-wded. with tbe -k that ...,." residents are denied the use thereof. The Town Board therefON declares it to be the policy of the Town of Southold to restrict IIDd regulate and parkiq of vebidee in tha parkin8 _ ~ to the bathing beacheeand recreational '-ill~ deecribed in . chapter in aceordllDC8 with the prOvisi0D8 ~. '.'~ .......'.f ~...... a~ :~.......,..l ......,..:.:,; A.JI::...... ~.. ..~..... ...IiItIh''''.I'M'':.~.' ..... .... . Id ',. ..~. .~11,1 h.'" . ''PUId.c~~~~'"",1D_' r.';..:':', :. ::~~;t\t'"~"~....~. _<.":::3g~~~. ,j.i~~.. .~ ..;1....'.."'.""' !""'};;~.'...r~..:.-." ...._l........,.."..... .,f'......'\: ;,.. ':p~<l:~~,(-J'lI .. '..' . ,"_ "",\, ) ) ....... .. .'~ . , .; ---- . . _ ,''l. ..-~~):," .":.',';.',. ,.,_ . ' t~ ., . ~I::>::..: .l:'.-"~:7~-!'~''.;'~~~W: ~.; ~ . ,.", .~);. ~ 'k ...it~1 ','1.',' '.' .,.. ""P.-', " ~"''f -:.. .~~ ,.-- .' " '. "~" ....'". " ,~ '" __..... I .. T ......... ,: I t~<J ' J ; ~.........~_ to-.-_ "lth.<I ,~.. ,JtIlPP Marine PiuiL'oW ' (2) Parking area adjacent to tbe bathing beach loc:ated on Long Island Sound at Arshamomaque [approximately one hundrad (100 I feet east of the interseCtion of County Route No. 27 and Sound View Avenue]. known as and referred to herein as "Southold Town Beach," 1\ , . " 13 \ Parking'are& adjaeentto the bathing beach loc:ated on Long Island Sound at Southold at the terminus of Horton Lane, known as and referred to herein as "McCabe's Beach," 14) Parking area adjacent to the bathing beach located on Long Island Sound at Southold at the terminus of Kenny Road. known as and referred to herein as "Kenny's Beach." 151 Parking area adjacent to the bathing beach located on Town Harbor at Southold adjacent to North Bayview Road (east of Goose Creek Bridgel. known as IInd referred to herein as "Goose Creek Beach." \ 61 Parking area adjacent to the bathing beach located on Long Island Sound at Peconic at the terminus of Mill Road. known as and referred to herein as "Gold- .mith'. Inlet Beach." (7) parking area adjacent to the bathing beach loc:ated on Peconic Bay at New Suffolk at the terminus of First Street. known as and referred to herein as "New Suffolk Beach," B. No person shall park a vehicle in any parking area designated herein as a "Parking by Permit Only" area unless such vehicle displays a valid parlUng permit duly issued for such vehicle in accordance with the provisions of this chapter- , , 1 1 , i.', J -,. .... . -- \ ,........ ....1 ........ 1 ~ . (U ~ - ~ - -' '._ -, _-''' __ ~ ....n. ~ .... .. . 6602 ~ " CaI .,~~.~tl.1Ip- ,.. (bl The number of permitlI applied 'or. (cl The designated business name, if any. of the premisea applied for. m Upon a determination by the Town Clerk or a person designated by him that the applicant is entitled to such permita and upon payment of the required permil fee, permits shall-be issued; provided. however, that the number of pclimits issued shall not exceed the "umber of lental units available at the premises applied for. Such permits shall be inscribed with tilt> name of the applicant or the designated business nam'. of the applicant - s premises and shall be used only by paying guests occupying the premises for which such permits are issued. LJI Hotel-motel parking perm,ts shall be transferable ana ,-hall be issued in a clear plastic case and designed t(, be affixed temporarily to the interior right-hand windshield or ri!fht-hand front door window of th.: vehicle. The owner or manager to whom such permIt' are issued shall make no charge for the use of such permits by such guests but may require a deposit. no. to exceed five dollars 1$5.), to ensure return of " permit. \4\ The fee for the issuance of a hotel-motel parkillj: permit shall be sULi, fee a. shall be prescnbed b, esolution of the Southold Town Board. I). 0 e-da" nonresident 'p~its. --......-....-.--...- One-day nonresident parking permits may be issuec for the parking of vehicles on ~he parking area.s e t SouthQ/d Town Beach. Norman E. Klipp Marine Par~: .:~ ::c New Suffolk Beach to an)' person by the at ~ant on duty at auch parking areas. [Amended 5-9. (21 Such permit shall be valid only for the day on w ,eh the same is issued. 8605 4,-1&.'3 . ----- I , ., / "?J5 ~ Southold Town Trustees South old Town Hall Vain Road Southold, N.Y. 11971 . en Suffolk, N.Y. 11956 1-, _ 1'4/ \.f\/y.."" &~iE_;fjJ Dear Sir: u a resident of New Surfolk, I believe that the environmental impact statement :you are asking Jlarina Bay Associates to prepare on the ~eveloP nt of the North Fork Shipyard should take up the matter of , -t:,~~ --I;:;~c.. . ~ . ~~~ ~ ~ L~:<L:lL-' ~ ~ -4~~~,f ~ k~' lie are a small community, and IIIl1st. be concerned about our neighbors. I believe that &1'\7 such development must adapt itself to us rather than t.he other way around. Sincerely :yours, ~~ "_f'. ~ <> .--_ 'iV' v - ....~.. ~:;~outhold Town Trustees South old Town Hall Vain Road Southold, N.Y. 11971 Dear Sir: u a resident of New Surfolk, I believe that the environmental impact statement :you are asking Jlarina Bay Associates to prepare on the development of the North Fork Shipyard should take up the matter of -ty-&..~c.- ~~o- i-.tR, ~~--X I r~'~ t(M.~ ~~~~~~~;'L ~ ~e. &U.~o,;-~ lie are a small community, and IIIl1st. be concerned about our neighbors. I believe that &1'\7 such development must adapt itself to us rather than t.he other way around. . Sincerely :yours, J'~~\A~l atl r k~ ~~ \JW~~, il.,(, \\~~, -;:(Y- ., - --.. ~.__. ___n__ -~. S u ld Town Trustees ?;1..:/ hold Town Hall Road hold, N.Y. 11971 ..,;~ ';';'::" , . -::~~--~~-:.;.~..-.....-~~-- . fin Suffolk, 5.Y. 119;6 Dear Sir: As a resident. of Nell' surrolk, I believe that the environmental impact st.at,ment you are asking Karina Bay Associates to prepare on the development or the North Fork Shipyard s.l:lould take up the matter of (/ ")Iy~.pL At /'J1-.. i~Ce~ 1 /--n -- LI~ /'~~rfl - lie are a small community, and IIll1st be concerned a:Jl. our neighbors. I believe that firrs such development must adapt itself to us rather than the other yay around. Sincerely yours, !J:adu--. )!t- )J; ~ ;J ~~/ ~.J ~#-rz4t:::/ -zP:?r i ,J.. ~'" r;'.JI~:)" ,,,,, '::JJ..1...-?<J4/ ?J I ,1., "'"' ,'I ,'" .C!l'fJt.,I0..Cl_/V,l,/,,/ ,"1~ _)JI..A.-L~..I /(:'-v_ I 1 ' C1.ud~..J, ;/, II";? / r: . ;(<'-<'1 " " /' J " r..1 "'./, ,-/...U-L~~ ..) 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'O"-'rT~".'-'..'.. i' "::.,,":.....:: I:~ ~BI;pL,.t: Box 106 New Suffolk, N.Y. 11956 September 23, 1985 Southold Town Board of Trustees Southold Town Hall Main Road Southold, N.Y. 11971 Dear Sirs: We respectfully request that you require the Environmental Impact Statement you are having Marina Bay Associates prepare on their plans f~r the North Fork Shipyard address the following points: 1. The effects on water quality in Cutchogue Harbor and off the New Suffolk beaches from: a. Sewage generated by boats approaching, at, or leaving marinatslips; b. Sewage and garbage generated by people living on their boats at marina slips over the weekends or longer; c. Sewage and garbage generated by the proposed on-shore facilities; d. Wastes from boat maintenance materials, such as highly toxic bottom paint, toxic paint removers containing acetone, ketone rings, toluol, and benzene, and the chemicals used in applying fiberglass coatings, etc. Will the proposed sewage handling systems be adequate? Will there be safe, carefully managed procedures to control the use and disposal of toxic materials? 2.Considering the volume of traffic on the water generated by this Yroposed marina, will maaina management require, per N.Y.State Law Whether enforced or not generally), the use of holding tanks on boats using marina facilities and provide on shore equipment adequate for the transfer of tank contents to the sewage handling system. 3. Considering the unusually large capacity of the proposed marina and adjacent shops, will: a. adequate provision be made for the disposal of effluent; and, b. what impact will the facility users have on traffic patterns~, traffic safety, parking availability for~et residents, and on air quality? 4. What will the economic impact of the proposal be on: a. 8xisting businesses in New Suffolk and adjacent hamlets in terms of competition and utilization of the available labor pool; b. property values in New Suffolk, particularly with respect to the availability of affordable housing for present residents. 5. Will such an overly ambitious pooject be able to generate a profit continue operating, or will New SUffolk again be left with an abandoned, decay,~'li eyesore? and We h~ve already suffered from the recent algal bloom and from a bay so ~eav1l~ used as to be almost unsafe for SWimming. Please insist on ~::;::rVi~~~."~uf~t~:~~~~~!~.g~, ,~a~~: ~~~~7~:~~...i. ,/J:U'C~~r":1k:u .)) ,.' $'~ . . . NOV 4 1985 1 .ey..b.l', 1985 x.. Suffolk, X.Y. 119~ Plannlng Boal'o. Soutl1old. 'I'own Town I1all Maln Roald ' Southold., N.Y. 11971 Gentle_n: We baye l'eo.ntl,. le8.1'neo. tbat tbe Mal'ina Ba,. Olub la about to appl,. to Th. Plauning 808.1'4 tOI' alt. apPl'oyal ot lta ,lan. top eftl8.1'slng and I'enoy.tlns tb. NOl'tl1 POl'k Shl'7&I'. pl'opert,. In N.v Suffolk. . In ooan.ot1on vltll tbat a,plloat1on, v. v1all to 0..018.1'. ouPaely.a a ,art,.-at-1nt.I'..t and. to ..qu.at tbat a .o-oall.d .eo,ing ..ting 11. llold. 1n 01'4.1' tbat tb. yal'loua agonet.. oonoe1"lUlll oan aequal.' tb....ly.. v1tb tbe plana fol' tbe 'I'oj.ot. Q:;...... for 'I'b. Nev Suffolk Cly10 "aooiation . ~~T 31 . C'-;,-(91,i - /~:v/" ._-~- .' , / rt / ~(/'{~f.s." ',-,~ /1 /Y'-7k It'.' /1 /A/ Il i -, -' / .' :&(.(.i ,) (I j"'lz,; ;( '. &c )' '- // <{ r/; N" -- . , , /;'1//';' " ... --- ~ ',I' 11v I --. ..( / ee; l-f/IJ/{./ ,--:'\hl ,/\'~~-~ (--:,/,~/,//;I,..-"""!. I -'-- , I </ U,..' J/-t i j:' (//-1/ u4Te- t-{ t/ ,: Iv I' ,'Ie'; I ^ - I I '- 11..(. j)'W7 .---- I,:, ,\-'/\' ,S/,;;~. 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'/ . / ..(? c Oc-e '/" 'i"" 1/., , ..J... / _, /~' ---.., j /\_j.ti - 1/" / / ' _~//U<AAc:.', '~/'}.r:..t..~.l , / ,,- //0 / , .;. I / I ~~-"-7 35- Southold Town Trustees Southold Town Hall )lain Road Southold. N.Y. 11971 Dear Sir: As a resident of New Suf'folk. I believe that the e'lVironmental i statement you are asking lfarina Bay Associatell to prepare "n the d 1 lllpact 01' the North F.ork Shipyard lIhould take up the IIIlltter of -.- (If' . eve oPlllllnt Imd ~-V' (r0. . I,....~H-IC C.O{)ceST.":. - j/v......, 1\9 o\'\-'i?reIYl1ses r/t("~I'lc1)' We. <.>Jo noT L0 11()\ n;el u' I 0 ~~ I he ScJ." 00 \ ft()u~ CrC"e'K j/ro~erl'i 1b Ge Ll"'o::I ~- M fI;\;' 1f- \ v..~", parle n~ _ l 'i on" 0 cr lie are a small COllll1JUnity, and JllUst be concerned aout our nei hbo I believe that a'JY such development DlUSt adapt iteelf t g rs. way around. . 0 u rather than the other Sincer~~~ure, E=sq ~ dL=i.Je L'rQ:,AAlI ~ ('E.;.) ~Xv \K \) ~ -- -~ --.;;...,~=--- . m~~~~ . 'M~~'Hs-jU Nmr SUftolk, ,.11,' ~--~~ -- ~--.- -.__._--- N.Y. 11956 ,- ..--- --..----.--- ~~~;~.~:~ Town Trustees Town Hall Dear Sir: As a resident of New Suf'folk, I believe that the environmental 1111paCt etatement you are asking lfarina Bay Associates to prepare on the development 01' the North Fork Shipyard lIhould take up the IIIlltten. of TqAf'F'/ ~ (!iN6~~TID'" 'l)./AI"f3.j2.. Sv~f'l-'( 1r\!+srE:j)I~5qJ-IN ~CtJVV<... Wt=..li\)~y' If&V~/ 01VI/<QIJI'1i?1Jr/tL. IHfAC'ltDF-A 1'1A-1ZJJJIt aJDUR. S/I1ItlL.0DA./I1UNI7Y lie are a sma1J. cOllll1JUnity, and JllUst be concerned about our neighbors. I believe that a'JY such development DlUst adapt itself to us rather than the other way around. Sincerely yours, i\. /. r--. ,.( ---;-) [ /If) ~ [ 'I'll'-<>, l<-- x /" :JCUbrn .ht,^, Nwv~-l~/ <V\A~ (j<JR<;cH ) -~!!51 . . 0\1~ /_,,-'.1' '!";,\ - '....--""-..,;;- --:::::;...~ OUNEWOOO TRUGLlA lAW OFFICES T:-;.~~'~T :~':~."7"~~.:?, un qg:~ ~~1,2-__.(0 301 EAST 48 STREET NEw YORK. NEW YORK 10017 (212) 751-9488 September 23, 1985 Southo1d Town Trustees Southo1d Town Hall Main Road Southold N.Y. 11971 Dear Sirs: As a resident business owner in New SUffolk, I believe that the environmental statment you are asking Marina Bay Associates to prepare on the development of the North Fork Shipyard should address the matter of outdoor dry storage of small craft. The type of structure referred to is a steel I-beam frame two to four stories in height which most likey could be Considered personal property rather than a fixed structure. SUch storage arrangement while a commercially desirable way to store small craft is in fact a terrible eyesore which can easily fall outside the purView of planning board approval for the abovementioned reason. I One of the reasons the residents of New SUffolk have hitherto objected to the original development plans was because of the various water views being blocked. It would be most unfortunate if this happened anyway together with all of the other negative aspects of a development of this magnitude. While I feel that the condo plan was infinitely better and easier to control with respect to its Potential impact on the small community, as the owner of the New Suffolk Emporium I welcome the increase in traffic in the area. DT/hb ?2:=;:p~~ ;? Dunewood Truglia -~ ? 31 . . I... ',", ,; !l:j;;-~j~ First & King Street New Suffolk, New York 11956 September 25, 1985 Southold Town Southold Town Main Road Southold, New Trustees Hall York 11971 Re: Marina Bay Associates Gentlemen: As a resident of New Suffolk who lives very near the site of the proposed marina at the foot of Main Street, I am very concerned about the size of this development. New Suffolk is a small hamlet that can be reached only by New Suffolk Road and New Suffolk Avenue, both narrow country roads. Many people walk, jog and bike along these road- ways. With the increased traffic into the area, these roads could no longer be used safely. Because we are a small community with narrow streets, the welfare of our children as well as our adults will be jeop- ardized by increased traffic. This past summer saw increased use of our roadways and a sharp increase in roadside parking in the "down-town" section of the village. Speeders were abundant and the noise generated by cars and people was intolerable at times. With the size of the proposed marina I am certain that the problems that we experienced this summer and the problems mentioned above will be increased to an unacceptable level. The size of the marina should be cut in half. The impact of large numbers of people coming into town to use the new facilities as proposed is sure to have an adverse effect on the quality of our lives not to mention the bay and ground water. Please give the Marina Bay Associates development careful consideration and keep in mind the effect it will have on our community. A smaller development with fewer boat slips would be more in keeping with the hamlet. Thank you for your kind consideration. Very truly yours, I , IJlr;i I (...... i II 'i I(-i . (Mrs.) Laura M. Avent --o::r- _ ;2-/ Southold Town Trustees . Southold To= Hall Main Road . Southold. N.Y. 11971 w . .. Suffolk. N.Y. 11950 ..}:.~;wL""'''''''~'lll..~ ~.. "'f::== y,;:.t;~ P"-Obl<-cAA wl-HA ~ocx1ln3 ~ ecJ:s "1J> 1-Ws ~ P"-o~' Dear Sirl As a resident of Nn Suffolk. I believe that the emiroJllll8 . 1JIpact', statement JOu are asking Karina Bay Associates to prepare on the developllllnt!1l"~' ..' " of the North Fork Shipyard should take up the _tter of c.o,.,i-rf1t.C i~deY;~ bo - I <l' /... ~ oSuR-01lt:.. J ~ e~~I".""H. dW .5c:..Uoolh~ ~ ~.~.r K<?>O".,S .-r5J.anc::J.. -q;. +kls proJ-t-cJ- .sLtbUlo! fI.Ii ~..... ~. '.~ w vIA.. Se.f=. 0.- F r-e~+- w1:Uc::...c, Wc..U per"., . ""~..z::~;' 2-l+eY"..HU2- CkCV1ClC,.Q..r db ~r +~. .Also T~. .' ." We are a small community. And IIllst be concerned about our M~rrl.S ;;i' . I believe that a!\7 such development must adapt itself to us rather than the other .~ way around. . Sincerely JOurs. ~u.~', ~ BOle 't9 tJ.ew ~ It.. IIcrS&o u...L +LA etk CNU.1X.. ' W h~ w<1J- b- ..}kL I ~e .:ST..a/ e. ~/rla CLTYnpJt2.X. OU ..J-LJ.s iFJ-y Southeld Town Trustees ' ~1F:::.-:971 . l~ Dear Sir: .,...". 'i"'l1'i!l~ As a resident. of Nn Suffolk. I belisve that the enviroJllll8ntalimpact '. , statement JOu are asking Karina Bay A.ssociates to prepare on the development of the North Fork Shipyard should take up t.be _tter of ~ ~ h .,Iv. .~) ~......\.},," ~~'-\,\"\w,-~~ \\Ju& ~~"~ .I'r\~ '1-.,~",~\.t.\\,:\,>(~\"L. ~~,'l.. ~ Q.. ~,>~.,\C>x\",:~ ~-~ ~ ". ,"" \'t,<n~ ~ '\."i(s...~...... \~ "".....\A. \,).~:,(:ti.-'-""~ \~ ~t(... \' , I"~ \', "c We are a Small 'community. and IIllst be concerned abci t diU' neighbOrs. I believe that any such development mllst adapt itself to us rather than the other way around. Sincerely JOurs, 11 " 0 "\ \ \~,b\...~ b, l)..''(L~'~\.... (~\l' \1, ~,\,,' \\ C''k.\:,\\.\I.,....~ . . '\ N81f,~uf'1'olk. 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"" . / ~t':14~/ ~ 7;uD .'"~<< J h..( ..3/.5 ~ k. ?u..w-~Jfl' .(!.u . 4.~ /f;?r I, d..' . ' l~BI~~ ..-~~' -pr; PSouthold Town Trustees Southold TOlIIl Hall Main Road Southold, N.Y. 11971 . eew Suffolk, N.Y. 119$6 f,-:TO-:;-;"-""";-;'~' ~ ,,,,-" ". " . ,- " i'ft'>'''''-~ -'""""'-);.f , ' i ~ ' (.~j, . ' Dear Sir: .ls a resident of New Surfolk, I believe that the environmental :~a~~:e~~u F:~ _ ;:~~ JlaS:;~~d Ba~k~s:~ci:e:.~~~r~are on the develo~:-~t , ,/),-- _ ; (,01 ?t' ('-/": ,," X !-((jet; / !C(lVU lie -~~ a ~!;'l;(~i~y, -~d mup be concerned about our neighbo I believe that any such development must adapt itself t th rs. way around. ' o,;:_.ra er than the other Sincerely yours, '- /1'Ltt1(Jj~1 iliu~?\v~J1T1 ~. ?: ? f Southold Town Trustees Southold Town Hall Main Road Southold, N.Y. 11971 (,-'-0 oU lfa.tbol I,ot New Suffolk, N.Y. ll9~ Dear Sir: - , .le a resident of New surfolk, I believe that the environmental impact statement TOu are asking Jlarin&. Bay A.ssociates to prepare on the developml!lnt of the North Fork Shipyard should take up the matter.<; of 'h'"U''-- ",-".:T"..{1, f',,1-( '""\J r __ I \ ~t (".., ....'-"', v,H,t,,- s .~('rI1 lie are a 8IIlill1 community, and must be concerned about our neighbors. I believe that arry such development must adapt itself to us rather than the other \ way around. Sincerely TOurs, _ \,-k., \' 0\'6 v.",)tf , \. \'. < 1: ct tt:,- \, c r ~ -tC,,- r ('0 fDS"ci c'\('lor.-,;:ft (-,,-,,~y-' 1'1 n\a.. fl\.'t'>. CCt,.., /.d~1-- ~ ,yIA \ L tk 'I,", de 0 <, ""J .~")." r2a.~ ~-l h I , Southold Town Trustees Southold Tovm Hall Main Road Southold, N.Y. 11971 . ." ' ) IlL 7,,- New Suffolk, N.Y. 11956 If.1\C'C I[f-.~'..,,-j. ./ Ul\ct3\ g~ , Dear Sir: As a resident of New Suffolk, I believe that the environmental impact statement you are asking Marina Bay Associates to prepare on the developmnt of the North Fork Shipyard should take up the matter of (!) LJ,..... ~ /J rc I ",-,i~ J)K-uKi.,;t- t-/ 11~. W/-Ic>J "...e HI<<I,"" tvif-! io//:"lJ ;;.~ '1r:jf~.S' I'ftTc I 7l-t~ WJf) ~ ,D'v-r'{~~';7 h";.l>,:"~- WeL<- w/J~. e:>NtlIIIICI1I'II<Ii-" : OL<1t. t/{::;r'1 ~H~f !1-vD va,? ce.:-o/ 2>~rJ) w?1~ C"N,"',~ Hrt..DcC ~J!!C S"4r f)e;fF;Ac .(1) "V(~ ,,1H- ~/'-3>S; lie are a small community, and IIlIlst be concerned about our neighbors. - I believe that av such development DIIlst adapt itself to us rather than the other }"'/J\.IJ way around. /",')<.C u.-.,Jlc.--.e (fu 1<1 7T'f-{'T(C . Sincerely yours, ....-.-- ""J ~~,v ~ .).:.. ~A?v .e'a1> ~ P ,j&~ f/J.~ 4- ~~ ~'- f , / / I " / ~ (l Southold Town Trustees Southold Town Hall Main Road Southold, N.Y. 11971 . "ew Suffolk, N.Y. 11956 ~r-' Y-'''-;'.917r.c-.,-,""",:-: ~':.I~" l0~';_L'" ' ,t-- I 1\\:. )u u Dear Sir: .ls a resident of New Suffolk, I believe that the environmental 1mpe.et statement ,.oU are asking Jlarina Bay Associates to prepare on the developllll!lnt of the North Fork Shipyard should take up the matter of the following considerations listed on thG attached PRF8. , lie are a small community, and IlUst be concerned about our neighbors. I believe that any such development BlUst adapt itself to us rather than the other _1' around. Sincerely ,.ours, VjL_ Q....j \ ~ .. ' I,' . . ~eJtew.ber 19, 1985 '/i3ter Lupply "lj 1) result of medical advice it L. '1^un(::ttc,ry for Lome ~ew ~uffolk residents to purcbnBP ~ottlp wnter for drinkinf. ',,1 tllOut atjdi tiellal influx, tiiG En,:t i::llcJ if' hlrelJuy ;;IHcine ~"ere dc'r!wnus fer ;)otable 'tI"ter tl1fHl n:Jt,lre can provide. ',hiE te l-..iL j)C'[: 31 .~ recent HL'ret t.o NeH Sufrolk i,: thr, nc"! re,:t,,"\UrClnt. Already tlliL LucceL'" ,:tery iB ffJcin,,' odorouH ;JI'oLJlerrf, of cesspool overflowinc on D weekly baBis. ~ith no proposals for public ,ewerace in the forseeable future, why permit an amplification of Buch a condition: Trnffic Con~eBtion Tbi" paFt Bumrr'er Fome year-round reslJ]ents were unable to gain access to the liw.ited beach p3rkinf ares, Already the two existing restaurants have generated city-like confestion. T~e beRvy traffic speening along New Suffolk Lane precludes the safe riding of bicycles. 1 Buspect tbo present building coue would permit only a few horres to ue cuilt on the available land. It will ue interesting to discover tbe number of proposed condos for this property, ','11 th each uni t contributing to traffic, waste disposal and wster demands. The topoeraphy has reached the saturation point and we ask your help in stabalizing this lovely bucolic ccr,:rr;uni ty. :.-incerely, V 4u,~-.. R.....cj f}l; ~ . . . Patsy Rogers 315 Founh Street New Suffolk, New York 11956 q/llf ).1 \~ .,~'j(';ln~t.~.'.'_'.'.'.'.. ',"" tJ.. \\I';'"r:i}::, ",,' D ta (' l' ~\) ~t-e f-j I t o UY )W\c..l\ kwV\ \~ st~~~{I'V'-9 VI"Clu ~ wel'~l~ 4 ~ ~v.l ('e,Sblu{ ~1.d'J W-e-ll' p~1o Ii c. h.e.cl all oLe/' l~ T ~ \o.lAVl aI/v).. rlAc.lL"~9 fk ( wtol/V\ev3 I~ -tw i u- 0.- cU..';j' ~ V o(<..l~ Jr- +rtt.1.r...... ~. lr- L ~~&... ~'Mo()..sly) .bY ';...,~ I~ S;1l--..fsee,..s ~ ,'~ ctro v~s ~ IOU/' d..u..cA-~ .s~ek? . Ou/ bu-V'-Hfu \ +o~ ~c.l- k...l b.e.e..... '\ci;.,~pvered- I, - J: ,l~ ~ Lc ~ J o~ ~ ~t....... +-t.- 00,iL. ~"- 0---- rec..e----1""' ~J5.-r LlJ"c.ekV'cU) tl-LLvl c..().'~ ~ (1 c.,tlr..Lc^. l(le~a,ll1 a.ll ove/ ~wv-. IhOSL <Sf uS W\r-o \-..6~ c..h..ose..-- we.....,) 5...c.f~\"- oS lOvvr ~ tJ..o ~ u.l~ ~ k.':"&L - or ~ l.?JfJV'^e" -r b.e.~.9 '(JV'O(Jo~1 ..:~ C.~. ~._ .' ~v,,"'~~~ "'~""""""~""")""'" "'._ .. "en "'fI'J'.."""", 'm~~ ~ ' we. lr-.ct ~ -upre S~ pt. $,.e..t..Je/tvL ""......",. 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'~S~.ftOlk, N.Y. 11956 ; I '~)~I~rr.lIT~?1~ I' l~jjl1L~JJJJ Dear Sir: As a resident of New Suffolk, I believe that the environmental impact statement you are asking Karina Bay Associates to prepare on the development of the North Fork Shipyard should take up the matter of \Nfl., C f<. ~'" PPL'~J 41\1:D, r:::)I"(C( \ ALt-'f, \.>'.4-:::,...."" y\,,<i>"'~Al.-. ~\ l-o.cflL. ,"C':J~p..,<,>L ')""2v,C,," HA'3 ,pGi\J'; "it!<=: ~'-"""t/\"'~ PL,""P,I\)(.,. A, Il r<"'::))'AvR~l\JJ. ACRo:.., me? "S'Q""-="r f'Q,rv.. ~l) <e>NI"Li'N. -:;'-'''l.l':.l-'-I ,'TH~C' i"'> N"'- 1'.\'-"031> 10 1\"D1) ~ .....-r>I1\-'1" A2""O~M. lie are a IIIlIlllJ. c()lII!1I\\1lity, and Est be concerned about our neighbors. I believe that any such development must adapt itself to us rather than the other way around. Sincerely yours, /l~(j g 4-,~~ OJd' ~~ tfZd. ?U~ d~lf>-tL m~~~' \ %\S'- Southold Town Trustees South old Town Hall Main Road Southold, N.Y. 11971 . [ielJprt: ,l-h'J, It! it.. ; E ~ tf1/I1 (eN J)'CI<JdN' S 7: .~~.Ol.. k.,. N....Y. .1l9~ S'~,.,/1."I,\r5\ .I~ ..' Dear Sir: .\s<< residentSof' New Su1'folk, U believe that the environmental impact statement you are asking )farina Bay Associates to prepare on the devel~lllIInt of the North .Fork Shipyard should t,ake 1W the matte:r;: of' Yl'i''T/i!I{.jv.-. "7' yr~ IE: J) ISt'OS,l-L, 'I,e ,f-,c,c I C CON t;-e.Frl 0/1' J / () i. J. 1/ 71 /1" C o/Y-T,ef) L ,+1lI./> ~E L 14-/&,) ~4 ,8L..E.M..r. Tie are a small colmllll1lity, and J/lUst be concerned about our neighbors. WI believe tb:1t 1i'lY such development must adapt itself to us rather than the other way around. ~ ~~e~You;,. ~.~ ~,dd~ VY1~ Ad-" ~. \ ~llP =. Sputhold Town Trustees Southold Toan Hall Main Road Southold, N.Y. 11971 Dear Sir: .ls a resident. of N_ Su1'folk, I believe that the envirol1Dl8ntal impact statement you are asking Karina Bay Associates to prepare:tn, the deV"111l1111l,~ of the North Fork S ~ sho ke up:t IIIllt of P -4.\1:.',. ev<,V~. Ch~ JJ.) ~;<>.".. ~.,,;:W (.\~~Qr~ irJ~~ )~>>.e'jS ltJ1_ J~.r ""~\<'.f ~ur )A;"~~} A'.(f^n\ "'. ,,-' I k,...J....V 6'.\ ,):f:'ej) \;,>u~'~ ;1 p-.....('{f~~)C ~\...~(J.I! ().(\-"o.~,\... N~ ....i\'r'~Q} V) '~\>"'~""l-,- -~'\~"~ .' l "~ M.."".tl.-b (~~-+0.\.d o,~\; .x). ,1i-t~~D "" \').'<. ik,1)op, c. )"..~'),I .~ 't.:-~~"d~ri;,"'&nd\~~t b~~';;~~;~~' abo~~ our neighbors. I believe that any such developlll8nt must adapt itself' to us rather than the other way around. Sincerely yours, ~\. i"'A~~(J~yyq q l~-f (Y)~~~- \ , A":' JJ <1 Southold Town Trustees Southold Town Hall Main Road Southold, N.Y. 11971 . .SUffOlk, N.Y. 119S6 f:\" . ",<, !"\1J~~it Dear Sir: l.s a residant of New Suffolk. I believe that the environmental impact statement you are asking lIarill& Bay A.ssociates to prepare on the development of the North Fork Shipyard .&hould take up the matter of o.1fZ. ~+"VL '?:':~~ h.~ ~ ~ r...-<-<-f'" t .1..J..... ,.tl<~"';~.~ r~j 0:1 ~~l; ~t:,~~/Jt..r h tC.. 1'~ t>>-J. ~~ t/ (TW' -(~Ll' lie are a small community, and IlUst he concerned about our neighbors. I believe that any such development must adapt itself to us rather than the other way around. Sincerely yours. .c-k~, W,~"- CHARLES W M. ,. . h, . ......1\U'-,I"l JACKSON STREET, BOX 95 l.tMNJ SUffOLKe L .. No Y. J 19.5(, \ If!. S~tbold _ _toM I!;) South old Tol'ln Hall ),lain Road South01d, N.Y. 11971 . AUffOlk, N.Y. 119S6 \O\..\~..' .......... l((ftL~~ Dear Sir: .1s a resident of New Suffolk, I believe that the enviro".mental impact statement you are asking Karina Bay A.ssociates to prepare on the development of the North Fork Shipyard should take up the matter of -rrli>, r'f; ( vJ IJ ,.'.,-l , ) jI'. ,,; I \' i.;' i 'J ~''.l\'j:.J I"'. - U~ . r i,i' :: c,'~~1 c\L" ~'\;\"'j~..\:~'~~ -"~I i,'';I._, :'i,~"I,... IUOLjM,i.lJ MVA'J~!lA+~)'1. ,(- ~ /,... 'I ,1^,,(,( 'n d-\\6/lt.J ,oJ I.J"it'<:' ""; ",~ ""l'J 1\1 pJ', 1'" i";,JII-L.. I lie are a small cOllllll1lllity, and IIlUst be concerned about our neighbors. I believe that &'\Y such development IllUst adapt iteelf to us rather than the other _y around. Sincerely yours,.( 1.,,"-- ~) .. I" \ '.-',1 I yJ' I'" / i '_~ "-__ .1 " ..-' ,'" I ~J,'. t\.-'\ ; I',re ,.I \ l'/ ~ Southold ~ Trustees Southold Town Hall )(a1n Road Southold, N.Y. ll971 . rl \;lfN t f,T"7r7.'- i ~f<:' ":U.:..;~.: . ?ll[')Li '1i{;v'U ~ ~. ::;j1j<tfl ... N~~tOlk, N.Y. 119;6 r; /9{rs Dear Sir: As a resident of New Suffolk, I believe that the environmental impact statement you are asking )farina Bay Associates to prepare on the develop nt or t-he North Fork Sh1Pya~. ahould take up the .ma~t~~<D$lOvlt-a-;t;- f-- , ,kw~~ 1M:/;;; PMcV,..U-; ~ ~./4 tLC~%:/f;.e",,'1.. l{jJd /.'1(1'1::: t.tk~;'<<.~ ~~UIi1~~'fi-:tW~~~,:'" ttvtv~<L. ~:<-~~ lV~"'" ~~Mi.ko'. ~~~q-@~~ 1 ~ e a ama.ll c~'~tlf Ill1st be concerned&our ne1ghbor8~ ~ I believe that Ii'" such development must adapt itself to us rather than the other ny around. Sincerely yours, \ 1 ,c-J ltur... 'Rf- 4..~C-. ~ ~. '"1e-se f, fj,~.?J )&p~fifct!e-> nit, // c; 5'6 ~c [~ kr~L{ ~p~\ f~' ----c ~ ~ tv;~-\ r (~) - - -..0 .....~ ---- / / , i; rf ~OUthold Town Trustees South old Town Hall Vain Road Southold, N.Y. 119'n . 4N~'S.Olk, N.Y. 119;6 ; I u , " , .~.-- .- Dear Sir: As a resident. or New Surfolk, I believe that the environmental impact statement 70u are asking Jlarina Bay Associates to prepare on the development of the North, :ork ShiP;...:! ,ahOuld take,.up t~e matter or LL<.M:.e;7~ :c~.ef'fJ(!/2j) ()-I,;<'t...:1". {ll~ef Ond, vm8a.( ...e ty,k'\2{C'fC'L/1.. ft,Yf!e. at' L<.t., ' II, ,'~'r',', I.IJ,. ,'\.", A.I li1;);&1J.~C, ".... .:<.<{ ~~, viet(! C1:, .th,!U <..ltV:fdf:'lL 1hcerl1(X!.~, 'fl.. ' ~.<'LLr~ "'-'l.."LU",. r:::,' l{><. ~ ." Jr;. . ~ 4f:iili{f (JtIVl.. L'lu!/'du IL~ u.vttl.. 'lfltlcC <;Jell'pee \ iY! ' [L /.J.'\J~IClJflNJ()(U C" ~t(/tl; c~ We are a small cOIIII1Iunity, and llUe be e'llcerned about our neighbors. a Cl..ic,Ylt. I believe that any such development IIIl1st adapt itself to us rather than the other ( way around. Sincerely ~urs, ,) ,L7 ~/l lJ, (.'lA_ttd P ~,') ,t!(.l1{ct7"r. . / /1;. I 11ft / ./~), l' - . . }tll0{ f>,iCdo . ., \ [f JD 1YJ~ ~ ~ ~L~9'~ ':r( i\L~JJt}~L~J .' Sept. 16, 1985 New Suffolk, NY Bouthold Town ~rust0es Southold Town Hall Main Rd Southold, NY 11971 Dear Sirs, I am writing in refera'ce to an environmental impact statement that is beinG requested from the developers who want to build a marina in New Suffolk. It seems quite obvious to me that New Suffolk is a very delicate area and needs careful consideration as to any developement made there. It is a very small peninsula with a very small population. Building a large marina and several stores as proposed could have devasting effects upon this community and the marine life. I am concerned specifically about the traffic which would be greatly increased in the area. I live on New Suffolk Rd. and have 4 children. It is bad enough ri~t now with cars speeding by at 40 mph in a 30 mph zone. ,ouldm't parking also pose a problem? The new restaurant inthe area, Bonnie~s By t~e Bay has 15 or 20 cars daily parking in front of their place already. :fuere are all the others going to park who are using the marina and proposed stores? ~don't want areas of New Suffolk turned into concrete parking lots, when the area we have is already so precious. I am also concerned about the quality of the Suffolk. '[ill is be20me much more ]holluted? be able to swim next to a very large marina, polaution and traffic? And how will all of this de~elopement affect the actual character of New Suffolk? It is quite a unique lietle community and I moved to it because it was so quiet and special. water around New Will my children with lots of boat I think the properyy in question should be turned into a park and beach for the residents of New Suffolk, and then I wouldn,t have to worry about any of t he above. Sincerely, -R ~~o~ "\' J1l- t ~ 1../ . .."'-"Q: 14J'~~ 19B5 Xew'Suftolk, X.Y. 119$6 Soutnold Town Trustees Soutnold Town Hall Main Road Soutnold, X.Y. 11911 W~~;;J.a9 Gentlemen: We have heard that the Southold Trustees have declared themselvea tne lead agency in connection with the appli.ation ot Marina Bay Associatea to enlarge the tacilitiel ot the Xorth Fork ShipYLrd. Many of our membera are concerned with the scope ot the .hanges that are planned for the site, and conlequently the Xew Suffolk Civi. Association wishes to become a party-at-interest in connection with the proceedings. We are gratitied that you have requested that the appli- eant submit a Draft Environmental Impact Statement in order that a full disclosure be made of all relevant tactors. Speoiflcally, we bllieve that the DEIS ought to addreu itself to the following items: Traffi., including peak-hour parking demand, peak-hour traffi. per hour, peak daily traffic (over 24 hours), average daily traffIc (annual), and planned valet parking. ' Control ot the lighting required by the development. Pollution generated by the development, both by the boata using the facility and by the development itselt. Berthing, in.luding the somewhat underutiliaed interior portion ot the berthing area and the questionable utilization ot the exterior portion, taking into account storm lurge and such extras as may be planned, including a leaplane berth. The impact on the community of the planned mixed usage __ restaurant, stores, marina, and associated activitiel such aa repair and .torage. The part to be played in the development ot tne 19th century underwater grant or the Itate. The high densIty ot tne development. The architecture of tne develo~ment (the drawings that we have seen do not aeem like MXantucket to us). The provisions being made tor the berthing of local boat. (both commercial and recreational). The plans being made to as.ure looal residenta that the retaIl establishments would include uaer-friendly stores suitable tor the use of our growing population of retired people. The plans tor First Street, including the impact on tne already-existing fishing Itation, the launching ramp, the possi- bility ot a Robin's Island terry and docking .lip, etc. Tne possible impact ot converting the slIps to Mdockominlums." The Impact of the increased water-usage (includIng the possible lkbillty of the town for the supply of publi. water Should the draw-down of tne development prove too muen for tne local delicate water table). The effect on the looal economy of the development, including the priority employment ot local residents (the rationale behind the endorsement of the Sutfolk County IDA). The prOblem ot winter storage for the member boats. The tact that the developer already has a building permit to replace one of the old boat sheds and what this means to the schedule for the development. Control ot noile generated by the dpvelopment. . .- ,; Jlew Suffolk ship;V- -.:-4 lelopment . -2- Such access tor the local residents, visual and otherwise, as they presently enjoY' to the waters ot Peconic Bay. Pur the rmore, we believe that the DEIS should present the entire project ae envisioned by the developer, not in piecemeal torm, as well as any future stages that may be necessary tor the economic succees of the development. That is, we are con- cerned that the developer may only address the immediate aspects ot hie construction program, thus tending to minimi.e the various impacts ot the development. For instance, it appears that certain off-site parking areas may have to be ~uired by the developer in order to provide aufficient room for customers' automobilea. The Schoolhouse Creek area has been mentioned as one suoh loeation. Therefore, the DEIS must take Into account both the primarr and secondary impacta ot sueh utilisatlon. Also other secondary effects must be addressed such aa the Impact ot the proposed development on The ~ew Suftolk Shlpyard and the ether sllpa on Schoolhouse Creek. Wlll the new development undermlne these longtime marine operations? Is there autficient demand tor marlna services In the area to support the new development and existing tacillties? In-gineral, our concern is that the project should be tailored to the communltr rather than imposed upon it. We hope to hear from you soon. r"~., L.... r tor The .ew Suffolk Clvic Association 0.: Southold Town Board nsDEC nSDOS P.S.I One tinal matterl 'We 'Would like to reserve the right to c_nt further on the developer's application should additional data come to our notice. '" ", ~ s ~~O-f-p;)J. i9.)JIpI?~ 12 February, 198$ New Suffolk. N. Y. 11956 Southold Town Trustees South old Town Hall Main Road Southold, N.Y. 11971 Dear Sir: We are gratified that the trustees have decided to ask Marina Bay Associates to submit a DEIS on the1r plans to develop the old North Fork Shipyard property at the foot of Main Street here in Nn Suffolk. Vis feel that so far lOr. Carr and his associates have given every evidence of foisting a very large development on mat is essentially a little backwater cul de II&C. '!be developers, nth their slips and dry storage for some 330 boats (130 slips plus demand storage for 200 more), eight stores, a restaurant nth 1$0 seats, SCBllll 88 marina employees (s8e the ~ application) to aay nothing of other employees, ought to be making plans to accomodate considerably over 1000 cars per ~ during tile peak summer season. Combine these figures with the already existing businesses, and you come up with traffic which will swamp our community. We associate ourselves with tho request of the New Suffolk Civic Aseociation to make the developer's DEIS as comprehensive &s poSSible in order that the community and the developer h1maelf' u;y become educated as to what constitutes reasona lie development. 'fie hope that you 1l'i.ll give as IllUch notice as possible when the time comes for a public hearing in order that our residents may make themselves heard. Sincerely YO{:, I. ~ ~~ ~~ "I r / , 1\ ,j \ /' . ~' I , 1-' -'1'\ '1/ I {( ?j,) '-(L , , .~ 1'"{(.r;/.-'/"L"(~jY ((" :~ '. y\1 a. (\2/w ~ ~fL,I()Rc7(o/ 'lOw tJ 5U(JEiL\,t -::0,<- WV.J/J o.p 3DJn-W.. () ~O/fl#(:O ,l/?JA.! '1;v{?k I ';)"JdrI! /1-1 ~~ ' tv( u t{ I? If c; '.:L j) ()I "S-pilPtI ~:,L..'r' 0 P POS G'P 'fT) '-nil? Mlh:L/JJA- (~It-).1 /t-PPL-/Cf}-T7CJ}.J r-o/1.... v'/.. (J i\fv~ /0 XI c>i-' lit C I;;X ( 'S 77 )/ V r:::/tclL-I-,-(l:-s. A5 L-o/-.l q PeS ";E~U SV rFQL.-J< f3LI1(W 1<-F (V1 H / N S A s: A I J ---rIC (<ET - g y - 71f[;: , . 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