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HomeMy WebLinkAboutZBA-06/06/1972Southold Town Board eals SOUTHOLD, L. I., N. Y. Telephone 765-~-660 APPEAL BOARD MEMBERS Robert W. Gillispie, Jr., Chairm~n Robert Bergen Charles Grifloni% Jr. Serfie Doyen, Jr. Fred Hulse, Jr. MINUTES SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF APPEALS June 6, 1972 A special meeting of the Southold Town Board of Appeals was held at 1:00 P.M., Tuesday, June 6, 1972, at the Town Office, Main Road, Southold, New York. ·here were present: Messrs: Robert W. Gillispie, Jr., Chairman; Robert Bergen; Charles Grigonis, Jr. Absent: Messrs: Serge Doyen, Jr.; Fred Hulse, Jr. Also present: Mr. Howard Terry, Building Inspector. PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 1566 1:00 P.M. (E.D.S.T.), upon application of George Vanderwoode, Seawood Drive, Southold, New York, for a special Southold Town Bo&rd of Appeals - 2 - June 6, 1972 exception in accordanc~ with Zoning Ordinance Article III, Section 300, Subsection B-14, to conduct a yard sale on premises east side of Seawood Drive, Southold, New York, Lot ~16, Map of Seawood Acres, Southold, New York. Date of sale to be June 10, 1972, rain or shine. Fee paid $15.00. The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application for a special exception, legal notice of hearing, affidavit attesting to its publication in the official newspapers, and notice to the applicant. THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak for this application? (There was no response.) THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak against this application? (There was no response.) After investigation and inspection the Board finds that applicant requests permission to conduct a yard sale on premises east side of Seawood Drive, Southold, New York. The Board agrees with the reasoning of the applicant. The Board finds that the public convenience and welfare and justice will be served and the legally established or permitted use of neighborhood property and adjoining use districts will not be permanently or substantially injured and the spirit of the Ordinance will be observed. On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was RESOLVED George Vanderwoode, Seawood Drive, Southold, New York, be GRANTED permission to conduct a yard sale on premises east side of Seawood Drive, Southold, New York, subject to the following conditions: 1. Permission is for a one day yard sale to be held on June 10, 1972. Permissionnis for the sale of household and personal property of the owner or his family and may not include property of neighbors unless it is for a charitable purpose. 3. Applicant must provide someone to supervise parking at the yard sale. Vote of the Board: Ayes: - Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen, Grigonis. Southold Town B~ard of ~ppeals - 3 - June 6, 1972 The Southold Town Board of Appeals held an informal discussion with Mrs. Maebelle Madden of Brookhaven, New York, with reference to property known as Lake Lodge, Southold, New York, owned by Mrs. Helen Reiter. MRS. MAEBELLE MADDEN: I am interested in purchasing this property, providing the Board of Appeals is favorable, for an adult home. It would have to be renovated and would involve some $40,000 to $50,000. THE CHAIRMAN: Have you experience in this field? MRS. MADDEN: No, but my son is very interested and he would be in partnership with me. We are very interested and I don't want to become too involved in the property until I have some idea whether it could be zoned for this purpose. THE CHAIRMAN: What is the acreage? MRS. ~ADDEN: I think it is three acres MR. TERRY: It is a little over three acres. MRS. MADDEN: For our purposes it is very nic~ and a very nice location. Right now it is quite bad but I am trying to envision what it will look like. THE CHAIRMAN: How is it covered under the new Ordinance? MR. TERRY: Non-conforming use. It can be changed only by approval of the Board. THE CHAIRMAN: It is a non-conforming hotel-restaurant use now? MR. TERRY: Yes. It would be changed from M-1 to M classification. THE CHAI~V~AN: If it were zoned properly it would be M-1 classification. MR. TERRY: You would be going up from M-1 to M to change it from a hotel-restaurant to adult home type of multiple residence. THE CHAIRMAN: Is this economic with how many people? MRS. MADDEN: I can't figure the break even point until all figures are in. We would hope to accommodate 20 or 24 people and there would be room for expansion. -~ Southold Town BoArd of Appeals - 4 - June 6, 1972 THE CHAIRMAN: In relation to the density, we would not be able to vary the density. MR. TERRY: Article III, Section B 4-f states 8,000 square feet of lot area shall be pHovided for each patient bed. THE CHAIRMAN: I don't think it would be economic. Twenty people at the most. MRS. MADDEN: I am not very knowledgable as far as building codes. I know there are other homes around that are on similar p~operty. How does that reconcile with what you are telling me? THE CHAIRMAN: The Ordinance under which we operate became effective December 17, 1971, and it requires 40,000 square feet per dwelling unit. When it comes to multiple dwellings we have to go by the Ordinance. The only advantage would be you would hot have to have it rezoned. The Town Board is the legislative body; they pass the laws and ordinances. This is the judicial end of it. The Planning Board has to do with subdivisions. This Board can only vary the ordinance. That is the situation we are working over in the wholeTTown of Southold. We have to be guided by what is in the new Ordinance. MRS. MADDEN: In Brookhaven Town they have adult homes under separate sections in the ordinamce from nursing home rules. I was wondering if there was anything separate for adult homes in your Ordinance. MR. TERRY: The same c~&ssification covers all that type of application. THE CHAIRMAN: I don't know what Mrs. Reiter is asking for the properny but if you are going to spend $50,000 for the property and if you are going to put 20 people in it that is $5,000 per unit and if you can come up with an income of $1,000 per month you could afford it, but I don't know what you could get. MRS. MADDEN: You could only get one half of what you could get in a nursing home. There is no way of getting a variance? THE CHAIRMAN: Even the Town Board could not do it. You have to comply with the 8000 square feet density. MRS. MADDEN: Mrs. Reiter is asking $85,000 but I have no intention of paying that. Density had not even entered my mind. ~ Southold Town Bo~ard of Appeals - 5 - June 6, 1972 THE CHAI~4AN: If you had both public water and sewage for a dwelling, I think the Board of Health is more or less unconcerned with density. MRS. MADDEN: Do you have a copy of that Ordinance that I might have? It would just about be out of the question then. If we could accommodate 20 people, but that means four acres. We will have to g~ve the whole thing more thought. THE CHAIR/~AN: Your actual limit is probably 16 or 17 people. I don't know what an economic unit is. MRS. MADDEN: If we had a house already established could that house be conformed and zoned properly, or suppose it was business zoned, could it be changed into an adul~ home? THE CHAIRMAN: The Ordinance would be the same. MRS. MADDEN: Is this for new construction also? · HE CHAIRMAN: Yes. It is for anything, even if you moved the building. We are limited as to water here. MRS. MADDEN: Thank you very much and I will be in touch with you if there are any further questions. The Southold Town Board of Appeals held an informal discussion with Mr. Jim Davis a/c Volinski Oldsmobile, Southold, New York. MR. JIM DAVIS: The sign is supposed to be removed in a couple of days. THE CHAIRMAN: Did you get a violation. MR. DAVIS: Yes. We called up the people who put the sign up and they told us they would be out in a couple of days to move it. MR. TERRY: It is 6' X 6' and hangs perpendicular to the building. (The Board, Mr. Terry and Mr. Davis discussed the location of the sign.) THE CHAIRMAN: What is the height clearance? .Southold ,Town Bo~ard of Appeals - 6 - Jun~ 6, 1972 MR. TERRY: About 11 feet. MR; DAVIS: It is above the entrance to the building. MR. TERRY: The application was to replace the original sign with this 6' X 6' sign. THE CHAIk~,AN: He should make a new application to relocate. MR. DAVIS: Thank you gentlemen. THE CHAIRMAN: How much time do you need? Do you want to make it another month? MR. DAVIS: That would be fine. On motion of Mr. Gi!lispie, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it.was RESOLVED to extend the time for removal of the sign at Volins~i Oldsmobile, Southold, New York, to July 15, 1972. Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillispie, Grigonis, Bergen. On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was RESOLVED that the next regular meetings of the Southold Town Board of Appeals will be held at 7:30 P.M., Thursday, June 15, 1972, 7:30 P.M., Thursday, June 29, 1972, 7:30 P.M., Thursday, July 13, 1972, at the Town Office, Main Road, Southold, New York. Vote of the Board: Ayes: - Messrs: Gillispie, Grigonis, Bergen. ~ The Meeting was adjourned at ~:50 P.M, A~ ~OV E~// R ectfutl /~_~/- ~ /% esp y submitted, ~%~Jtg~.?.~~ %// T~i Lee Etak, Secretary an Board of A ea~ Ch%kin PP ~ ~/ ~thold To~ Board of Appeals Robert W. Gillispie, Jr., Chairman