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New York State Department 01 Environmental Conservation
. Environmental Analysis Unit
Bldg. 40. SUNY
Stony Brook, NY 11794
516 751-7900
. August 26, 1976
James T. Mansell, Superintendent of Utilities
Village of Greenport
236 Third Street
Greenport, NY 11944
Re: TW-15278-0100
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Reference is made to your letter of. July 25, 1976 ,
requesting recognition of your interest in Petition No. TW 15278-0100.
You are hereby recognized as a Party-in-Interest in this proceeding.
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Local Tidal Wetlands Permit
Administrator
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Officers
MAYOR
JOSEPH L 'IOWNsENJJ, JI<
0fla:~e 0/ .9reenport
UTII.ITY OI.TI('F TEL.
(5111) 477-174H
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(516)477-0172
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Hl:.NKY CARU}ZZI
SAMUEL KATZ
WILLIAM H. UEBLEIN
WILLIAM QUINN
At-INCO"POA"TIO/'ll UNDI:A G[N[~"L L"W ..."y 2'. "".
SUPT. OF UTILITIES
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(;REENI'ORT, SlIl,VOLK COUNTY
NI':W YORK 11944
July 25, 1976
Tidal Wetlands Permit Administrator
Building 40
State University of New York
StonyBrook, N. Y. 11794
Gentlemen:
The Greenport Municipal Water Supply hereby objects to the proposed
dredging project of Mr. Marvin A. Rauch, Petition No. TW - 15278 - 01000.
The Village of Greenport which OIIns and operates the Greenport Municipal
Water Supply deems itself liable to injury as a result of the proposed
dredging wherein the salt water interface will be damaged and a portion of
the fresh water available will be lost.
The available fresh water in the eastern portion of the North Fork of
Long Island is already critical and can be documented by many engineering
reports. The Village of Greenport objected when Fordham canal was first
dug, the chloride count rose forcing the Water System to monitor the
pumping of their public water supply wells (4-6, 4-7, 4-8) in East !larion,
further forcing the Water System to expend large sums of money to locate,
develop and transmit new sources of supply from areas to the west. Continued
construction of projects as proposed, if permitted, will further deplete
the fresh water resources of the area. The Village of Greenport cannot
afford to permit this to happen.
The effect of more diggings will lower the fresh water contours in
the area which are presently very critical.
We have requested our Consulting Engineer, ~!r. Samuel McLendon of
HOlzmacher, McLendon & Murrell, to file an additional explanatory opinion
on our behalf in this matter.
In behalf of the Village of Greenport - Municipal Water Supply, we
respectfully request that the application of Mr. Marvin A. Rauch be denied.
Very truly yours,
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,July 25, 1976
Lettflr Addresserj to:
'1'1<1" I vlnLland" f'nrrnlt I\<lrn tnln trot,or
~l',ullyBrook, II. Y.
From: James I. Mansell, Supt. of Utilities
Villaee of Greenport
cc: 11ayor Joseph Townsend, Jr.
Village of Grecnport
Samuel Mclendon
I!olzmacher, McLendon & llurrell
Consulting .:ngineers
500 Broad Hollow Road
llelville, N. Y. 11746
Mr. John Wickham, Chairman
Southold Town Planning Board
Southold, N. Y. 11971
Mr. John Munzel
Attorney at Law
S4fJ Hoanoke I\venne
Hiverhead, 11. Y. 11901
Dr. Jonathan Richmond, Chairman
Village of Greenport Planning Board
Greenport, N. Y.
llr. John D. Hirenius, P.E.
Water Quality Unit, Supervisor
Suffolk County Department of Health Services
Suffolk County Center
Riverhead, N. Y. 11901
Mr. Merlon E. Wiggin, President
North "'ark Environmental Conncil, Inc.
Box 311
Southold, N. Y. 11971
Department of the Army
New York District, Corps of Engineers
26 Federal Plaza
New York, N. Y. 10007
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MARVIN A. RAUCH
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C()11Sl..!r'J<.l LLo:; \.:i1 t C':l~,:;i~ :l pt:l' l"Lc :l'-~nri Il~', t(., [1,' hv ld in tho Suffolk County
Legislative Room, County Center, Riverhead, New York 11900
on too 22nd d"y D[ September , L')76 , "l 10:30 o'clock in the
fore noon Cot1 tlldt: Jay for the PUi.-pOSC Df:
(a) hcarin~ all pcrs0~sl corl)Or~tions or civil divisions of tile State of ~ew
York, :i:at ':":i.:lj ~)(~ nf.::cctcr.! by thL~ (:xccut:i.,)I1 of the plans at:
The project site is 1,~cntcJ
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1223 Cornaga Avenue
Far Rockaway, New York 11691
in Fordham Channel, cast of Gull Pon~ Lane,
Greenport, ~'own of SClUtho1d, Suffolk County, New York. 'rhe applicant
proposes to maintenance dredge 500 i feet of an existing channel to a ,
depth of 6 ft. below MLW, removing approximately 1500 cu. yds. of mater~al
to be deposited on the adjacent upland. The applicant claims the
project is necessary to restore navigation, ~nd that a financial hardship
would result if this permit were denied.
pinDs [or ~hicl: !l~VC been filed with ttlC Ti(~al ~ctli!n(l~; Permit A~cnt,
Dcpnrt~cnt Of l~nviron~entnl Conservation) nnJ ~lrQ now itl l1is office in
Stony Brook, :-Jc\";York, v;l:"::l"c the. saiJIc .:1rc. open for public inspection; and
(b) affording tile petitioner th~ oP!'ortt!~ity to establisll t!1nt tile proposed
p~oject is not co~trary to (1) the policy of the Stnt~ to preserve and protect
tidnl wetlands, to prevent tlleir ~~spoliation and dcstrllction ~~d to give dlJC
consirl.c;;".:'.tion to the re,,:scT".able econor.ic nne: social GL'\'clopr;H2r.t of the SUlte
and (2) tl1e ~rovisions of ~itlc 2, ~\rticle 25 of the En\"ironccntal Cocscrvation
Law.
Further notice is hereby giVe!l tllat, purSllant to 7itlc 5, A~ticle 15 (Protection
of t':aters), ;::lviror:~:r::"':.~.::ll CO:i.:;crvntion Ln~,- anG. tbe Rules.J..:d Rcgulc.tions for issuance
of p0rr:-:!ts \:nr:er :;"id J.,::~',\' (6 XYCIUZ I':ll~~~ (IO.s). r:""\c' ;"lurfOS(,~ of s:'~ l',: IH1:lring is .11s0
for dcU~r;;11:iJnl; '.:iI0t:lcr s:lid plans provi:l~ for t11(; propi..:r <.lud safe construction uf
.:~ll wode. connected thcra~\':Lth: and 't.;llctb:~r cxc-ct:tiL'l1 of the propos.:ll iI,;ould ad\'~rs01)'
affect the 1lcaltll, snfety a~J welfare of the ~coplc of the Stnte or the natur31
,rcsources:o: the State.
The p~titi'one-r- further rC:CjllC~]ts th.:1t, rJl:rsu2nt to SCl:tion 401 (n) (1) of PL
92-500 '(The Act), the project be:, certificd th.:lt :i.~ ~,..ill c0:~plJ' t,':i.t:, G.FPli.:<J.ble
effluent li~it~tions or other li~itatio~s or stunuards under Section 301, 302,
306 or 307 of the ~ct.
All persons, corpornti0ns or civil di\'isi0DS oi the S~3tc of ~C~ Yl)rk, Wll0
have objc.ctio:1s to t:h~ (~:':~ClltjOt~ of s;::i.! pLIOs or ,,'i:--:h to he hC.:J.rcl either in
favor ,or or oppo:-;cd to ;::\1cll pLll1s.in o:'/lc'r to hi' bedn: tl1,_'rcoit, 111':::[ fi]('
notice DC a;'rH~.";'LlIll>: (l[ ~:l..l(.'ll dc~:in' t.o :"'~ hc~:=-'d i:l \,Ti::'.:n,\'~ ;111'.: in 1:':;'1 iC:1te,
spccifyil1G tile prcci.sc ~rOUll(l~ ()f sllp~0rt of or oPilosition to tIle ~lctiti~n,
with the Ti(:al ~.lccl;l:H:~--; Pentit ,~.,t:mini.~~::.-ator <1t Llildioi; !iO, StatL: Lli-./crsity
of ,XC\., York, Stony nrnu:-'~, ~;C'v.' York l179!; on or hcfo:-e the 16th cl.:1y of
S ' ] 976 ' Filing for. this purpose shall require actual
f~fl~l?e}t1 tLe office 0' the Tid<ll 1.lctl,mds Per:;'; t J\':n;inistrator. If no notices
of appC.J.r.J1i.CC arc filed, the. hC3rir'0 m.::.y be ca:1c~11cd.
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Loc~l] 'l'.L(lnl ~'!ctl~n(is Fercllt ^~~i~istrntor
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Stony lirook, i';c',,: Yor:'-' 11794
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E1\vironm~nt.;; Clln'i...'rV~It;.i_nn 1.;1\.: :~:h\ tlle l~lllt,:,; ~\1ld 1{I.~gHl:1:.:io~1:,; rot" .1~~:-;,:ancC! of
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Concl:rvat:io;: \.:111. Cil\;:)U :11'u1.>.: :i.":: lI'::;lr::w'; to 11>"' l1l~ld in the Suffolk County
Legislative Room, County Center, Rivcrbeac1, New York 11900
on /-f,c 22nd '];,1' "r Septc,mber ,1')76 ,:lL 10:30 o'clock in thc
fore {won c....f1 th~lt dOll' for Lht,.~ purpo~;c ci:
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Far Rockaway, New York
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in Fordham Channel, ca~t of Gull Pon~ Lane,
Greonport, 'I'own of Southold, Suffolk County, Nmr York. 'i'he applicnnt
proposoD to muinte,nllTlce dredqc 500 :t fuot of: on oxi"tinq channel to a
dopth of 6 ft. lJolow Mr,~7, rClnovin<j npprmdmntoly 1,,00 cu. yds. of matoria
to be deposited on t:he adjacent uplal1l1. 'I'he applicilnt :laim~ tho .
project is necessary to restore navigation, and that a f~nanc~al hardsh~p
would result if this permit were denied.
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-t.:~ have ohjections to till' .:':-:ecllt j(l!~ o~ ~.;:id p.l~lns ur '.,:!~;h to 11.:: lh'.1.rc1 (-'i chC"l" in
\~". ,favor or or OJ)j)():;('tl to ~;llch :)};11\:';, ill nrr:('r to ~l(' L"~ln; : h..'r(>t1:l, r:';~;l ['J]"
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f;'"t spccifyinr; the pr"::'l:j.:;(' r,round:; of [;lIf'i)ort (11: 0r oPPo!1ition to tj,..... ~)(,titioa,
't_ with the Tic:,')} \'!':~r3..;1:1l~~": Pcn::it ;\t:i:lillist::"~lt.)r a:': r::lilc1injj LiD, S::ltc l:1..~i'Jcrsity .
l,t.~ ." .of :;c" York,. Stony !\rr'u':, ~!c;.! York 1179!, en or hcf0~C the 16th '. <Inyof
;' #4 S .' ]976 Filing for this p":-rosc sl~:111 require ~~tuiJl-'.':
~'::1 . f'~~l?e111 the off:icc (\.." the Tid."J.l h!cth.l~Hls Il".."'r:.J1 l i\c~,inistl".:1tor.o I[ no notices
'.--1) ., ,-';' of 'appc,Jro.:~cc :lrc [;..lcd, tllt? hc.arir;'l:; 1;1~Y be c~:1ccllcdo ~'.~
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pl<1r:s for,....hici1 l1.:lve been filed ,.,rith UIC. 'Tit!;::.l ~'~ctl;l:Hi~; ~..."'rmit ;\~:cnt,
l)cpo1rt:;:c:l.t Of Er:vironnental Cor:scrv"ltiol1, ;'l.nl1 arc r'.m,' :in his office in
Stony Brook, ~cw York, ~I~arc tIle sa2C arc o~cn for putllic ins!)~~tion: and
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(b) :lff('ln.Ji;,;~ tile petiti.oncr the OPPl):~t.u!-1ity to ':~;,:..:J.blish t.:~,"l.t til1..~ proposed
,p:"l'ject is not co:~trary to (1) the; policy" of t!lC Stnt.::: to preserve and protcct
tidal \)crlonc]s, to preVcllt tllcir dcspoliation ancl'dcs:~L!cti0n n~d to nivc dllC
consi~c:-=-~:.:icn tc the rC:':1sC:-;:~lblc eC):-1o~:ic .'In,~ soci.:ll d",'vC]O;")7:1i..'J:t of the St;1tl~
an~ (2) t!lC nro~isions of Title 2, ~\rticle ~5 of tllC: EIl.\'iro~~c~t3l Co~s~rvation
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Further notice is l:0rcbj' given that, 9urSll.:J.nt ::0 ':'it1c 5, A:-ticle 15 (Protection
of ":"1tc:r5), :'::1':i.ro:-.:-,:!".;:".::nl. Car:.:;cr\l:1tion L:!'..: an~ tl1l2 K\.:les .1:'.(: Re~';u1.:;tions ,for isslI.:mcc
oi Ih:~r::1i::s 1:;'~':I..'r :ii~id ].:.:.~... (() :\YCiU::' ~':n"1..' (,1.')8). r;lC' ;1111-:)~:S'~ O:C S;..l,: h~~:l.ri.ng i::'l ,)l~o
. lur (~cll:rr.1i:~jlll: ".:h~l;j(:r :';:l:id p.llln~; provide for til~' pt'o~)~r ~II:d ~;afl: constrlll:Llon ui
~1.1 \-1Ot'~< COl1lh'CtL!d tllct'c'.,'lth; ..m,' \,OlH~r.Lcr C:-:CCl:lil)n of the pr\'pl.'~;:.:\l \,....lulJ advl.'rscly
'affect the! Ih,~a1ll1, :::l:.cty ~Jn~l "'..~lLl1.-.'" oi trw pL'';'lplc vi tlw .st.:.lt...~ or th~ natural
rczourcc~ or th(: ~;t.ltQo
The petitL)r,c..; fUl-tLcr rcqllc.!:lts th:1t, pllrsu.:1>lt tc S2ctinn [,01 (.:1) (1) of PL
.92-SpO (Thl' Act). tLt2 project he ccrtificj th2t i: t,-i11 cO::-!j11y h'it:: .:lv.pli.::::ble ':;
effluent liGit~tions ~r Oth0T li~itatio~3 or ~tandards un~~r Scc:ion 301, _302,
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State University of New York
Stony Brook, New York 11794
ReI Petition TW-15278-0l000
Dear Sir:
The Planning Board of the Town of Southold concurs
with the position of the Village of Greenport as regards
dredging of Fordham Channel, east of Gull Pond Lane,
Greenport, New York.
Yours truly,
Muriel Brush, Secretary
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ROBERT H. BERNTSSON
ASSISTANT TOWN ATTORNi::V
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P,O, Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
TELEPHONE
(516) 765-1939
JAMES A. SCHONDEBARE
TOWN A TTORNi::Y
OFFICE OF THE TOWN ATIORNEY
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
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Planning Board
James A. Schondebare, Town Attorney
September 2, 1988
Fordham Canal
We do not view the land below the water of Fordham
Canal as a candidate for subdivision. We have previously taken
the position that a lot must be buildable, in accordance with the
definition of a lot.
In this unique situation, it is our recommendation that
each abutting property owner, who seeks to purchase the land
under water and adjacent to his upland property, do so through a
lot line change.
cc: Fred Tedeschi
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MEMORANDUM
To: James A. Schondebare, Town Attorney
Robert H. Berntsson, Assistant Town Attorney
From: Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner
Re: Fordham Canal
Date: May 31, 1988
Fred Tedeschi, on behalf of a client, has requested guidance
on how to resolve the following matter.
His client has been offered the chance to purchase his half
of Fordham Canal as it lies directly in front of his property.
The Canal itself was created in two sections, the latter being
known as Fordham Acres, Section II. There are no records an the
First section. The second section was built in 1967 and was owned
by Ruth Preston and others.
It appears that the Canal itself was created and that the
land beneath it was owned by Preston and others. The current
owners, Peconic Holding Company, have sold portions of the Canal
to the adjacent property owners. See property card from
Assessor's office.
In the interest of protecting his client, Fred wants to know
whether he should apply to the Planning Board for either a lot
line change or a subdivision proper since the filed map itself is
being amended.
I have discussed this with the Planning Board. They have not
encountered this situation before so they have no idea as to how
this question should be answered. They would like your review and
opinion as to what procedure Fred should follow.
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Oreenport, H_ York
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Th1. 1a to aelv1ae you that the follow1nq action was taken
by the Southold Town Planning Board at a regular meeting held
on October 3, 1967:
"It was RBSOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board recommend
to the Southold Town Board tha~ they release tt.a perfo:rmance bond on
Fordham Acres, Section II;I.Or..nport, Hew York, owned and developed
by Ruth pre.ton & Other.. subject to receiving the letter of approval
from the Superintendent of H1gbways"
Attached hereto are the letters of approval of these roads
from Raymond C. Dean. Superinteld8llt of Highways, and Lawrence M.
Tuthill, Construction Engineer for the Planning Board.
Respectfully submitted,
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John W1ckbam. Chairman
Southold TownPlanning Board
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