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RICHARD G. WARD
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
Fax (516) 765.3136
Telephone (516) 765-1938
PLANNING BOARD OFFICE
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
FROM:
Gerard P. Goehringer, Chairman, Zoning Board of Appeals
Bennett Orlowski, Chairmar(jt)9-
Request for opinion
Johnny's Car-Hop
Route 48 & Horton Lane
SCTM# 1000-59-3-30
Zone: General Business (B)
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June 25, 1997
The Planning Board has received the attached letter from Mr. John
Milz, Px:;;sident of Johnny's Car-Hop requesting guidance in placing a
hot dog trailer on his property.
Mr Milz in his letter says that 50% of sales are done through "Take
Out". If it is determined that this is a take out restaurant, Town Code
100-101 (9) Permits take-out Restaurants by Special Exception, and
provides for eating in properly maintained structures outside the
restaurant where the minimum lot size for a freestanding structure is
forty thousand (40'000) square feet. This property is 21,780 square feet.
The Board would like to know if the trailer is classified as a structure
and if the proposed use of the trailer as a take-out hot dog facility
requires a SE from the ZBA.
The Building Department has provided the attached CO's.
If it is determined that the trailer is an allowed use, either with or
without a SE, this Board will require a site plan due to the possible
change in parking requirements from the proposed increase in take-out
use generated by the trailer and concerns regarding traffic flow.
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If this Board can be of any assistance in this review please contact Bob
Kassner, Site Plan Reviewer.
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ce: Laury Dowd, Town Attorney
Edward Forrester, Head, Building Department
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De:JI Mr. Kassner.
The lntenc of this request is to secure J. pos1cion on my proge~"Cy for 1 Hoc Dog Trailer.
~he purpose o( [his cr:J.iler lS co orovide CUSLOlners ~Nl(h an add::J.ono.i source of t:Jke-'Juc trom my
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pr)sitlOfl ()f ChIS c[ailer LS drawn :n on the e:1c:osed site plan. lnC Nill be 1cces;stble trom iTIY
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fn conc!u03lon. [ hope ch::ll [he informacion provided is su[Ticienc_ JnG ehJ[ we c:ln come co a
fJ vorable [1jling on this TIaUer.
F,,)[ any Jddi[ionaJ informacion. ple:Jse con[:JC[ TIe a( the .eS[:Ju,:Jnl.
Th:.J.nk you ['or your trIne Jnd conSluerauon.
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TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
BUILDING DEPARTMENT
Office of the Building Inspector
Town Hall
Southold, N.Y.
Certificate Of Occupancy
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May 28
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THIS CERTIFIES that the building.. ..
4J715 C.R. 27 Middle
Location of Property.... .2185. .Horto.ns. Ln...
House No.
County Tax Map No. 1000 Section .059....... .Block
Road, (C.R. 48)
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Subdivision. . . . . . . . .
.Filed Map No. ..
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conforms substantially to the Application for Building Permit heretofore filed in this office dated
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. . . 19 .Il 1 pursllant to which Building Permit No. .....1.192.5.. ~. . . . . . . .
dated ... F.ebruar.y. 3.
1<13.1. . . was issued, and conforms to all of the requirements
of the applicable provisions of the law. The uccupancy for which this certificate is issued is
. . . . . . Sandwich . Shop
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Sandra P. Rave
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(owner,-I~~f'!'m'-tt!'1MI't1'f
of the'aforesaid building.
Suffolk County Department of Health Approval
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UNDERWRITERS CERTIFICATE NO. . . . .:t'.~'n.~u.'l)"c:. . .: ~ :':,~"..~'~.
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THIS CERTIFIES that the building located at . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. Street
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Map No. .. BlOC~~~L~.c5-V--L~' ..j1,',"Q';~'1 Cv'~_
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HOUSE NUMBER Street. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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HOUSING CODE INSPECTION
November 30, 1977
43715 County Road 27 B-1
Southold, N.Y.
Tax Roll: Florence LaFreniere
Occupied: Retail Store
Upon receipt of an application for a Pre-Existing Certificate
of Occupancy I made an inspection of the buildings on this premises.
I picked up keys from Lewis Edson, First Town Realty, Main Road,
Southold, N.Y. and began this inspection at approximately 1:30 P.M.
The dwelling which is presently being used as a retail store
contains two bedrooms, a living room, dining room, full bathroom
and kitchen. Heat is furnished to all rooms from an oil fired hot-
water furnace located in full cellar of buildings cement block
foundation. Accessory building is a one story, wood framed, one car
garage located in rear yard area.
The following violations of the Housing Code, Chapter 52, Code
of the Town of Southold, N.Y. were found:
Accesory structure -siding on west and north wall deteriorating,
joints have opened leaving excessive openings-Article III,
Section 52-31 B. Fuel oil tank is located within garage, fill
and vent pipes terminate within building. Article V, Section
52-59 C 2. Fuel line from tank in garage runs thru side of
building -.cross lawn and walk-way and enters cellar of dwelling
thru window-this line furnishes fuel oil to hotwater furnace
of dwelling-line is unprotected. Article V, Section 52-59 B 2.
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Entry- front of dwelling-no means of controlling light in room
at point of entry. Article V, Section 52-56 B 2.
Gas Range - no shut off valve at unit. Article V, Section 52-52
B 2.
Cellar -window on west wall, broken pane of glass. Article III,
Section 52-31 A.
Furnace - relay switch requires cover. Article V, Section 52-56
A 1.
Inspection completed at approximately 1:50 P.M. Keys were return-
ed to Lewis Edson.
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PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS
RICHARDG. WARD
GEORGE RITCHIE LATHA>.'>l, JR.
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PLANNING BOARD OFFICE
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
TO:
Laury Dowd, Town
FROM:
Robert G. Kassner
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RE:
Jonny's Car-Hop & Juke Joint
DATE:
June 18, 1997
The Planning Board has received the attached request for a hot dog
trailer at the above take out restaurant.
This request is somewhat similar to the request by Cucinas restaurant
in 1996, and explained in some detail in your memo of July 1, 1996.
As this use is not provided for in the code, I would appreciate your
g'llidance in how to proceed.
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43715 Route 48, (North Roodl & Hortons Lon
Southold, New York 11971
516-765-3336
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Town of Southold
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The intent of this request is to secure a position on my property for a Hot Dog Trailer.
The purpose of this trailer is to provide customers with an additional source of take-out from my
restaurant and to alleviate take-out congestion from my kitchen. Up to 50% of my sales are done
through "take-out",
Position of this trailer is drawn in on the enclosed site plan. and will be accessible from my
parking lot with seating available on the deck. Customers will be able to use bathroom facilities
in the restaurant as per The Suffolk County Department of Health.
The trailer will primarily serve two items previously found on my menu. Johnny's dog and chili
dog, with bagged chips replacing french fries & canned soda available
instead of fountain.
[n conclusion. ! hope that the infonnation provided is sufficient. and that we can come to a
favorable ruling on this matter.
For any additional information. please contact me at the restaurant.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
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Food Aficionado Inc.
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JOHN BOUFIS
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HOT DOG STANDS
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J U L Y 1, 1996
met with Bruce Stewart or
On weekends, he places the
and sells sodas, hot dogs,
5,-ructure without a building
because it is on wheels.
Cucinas Restaurant about his hot dog stand.
stand at the Rt. 2S edge of his parking lot
etc. He has been cited far erecting the
permit, although he claims it is a vehicle
Tne real issue, however, IS whether this use
location and whether it requir~s any other permits.
the anJ'! permit to which he is subject. is Southold
transient retail business. A transient retail busIness
is appropriate in
Mr. Stewart feels
Code Cnapter 69
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"A retail or wholesale business conducted in a temporary struc:ure or
tent; from a truck, van or trailer; on a parking lot or vacant parcei
or land ... or any other plac" for a t"mporary period of time" - Tne
code indicates that tempordry is three months or less.
As a merchant having an established place or business in the town, he :s
exemot from the permit requirement. Tnis wholesale ~xclusjon G( iac31
businesses suggests to me that Chapter 69 was never intended to appi'/ :0
\Jutdoor sales by local merchants. It 'Nas intended to apply to pe'Jple
c:Jmlng into town to er~ct ;; tent to sell items for a limited period ar
:ime, or to apply to food '/ehicies like ice c;-eam truCKS.
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Southold, New York 11971
516076503336
June 12, 1997
Att: Mr. Bob Kassner
Town of Southold
Main Rd.
Southold, NY 11971
Dear Mr. Kassner,
The intent of this request is to secure a position on my property for a Hot Dog Trailer.
The purpose of this trailer is to provide customers with an additional source of take-out from my
restaurant and to alleviate take-out congestion from my kitchen. Up to 50% of my sales are done
through "take-out".
Position of this trailer is drawn in on the enclosed site plan, and will be accessible from my
parking lot with seating available on the deck. Customers will be able to use bathroom facilities
in the restaurant as per The Suffolk County Department of Health.
The trailer will primarily serve two items previously found on my menu. Johnny's dog and chili
dog, with bagged chips replacing french fries & canned soda available
instead of fountain.
In conclusion, I hope that the information provided is sufficient, and that we can come to a
favorable ruling on this matter.
For any additional information, please contact me at the restaurant.
Thank you for your time and consideration,
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Food Aficionado Inc.
D/B/A Johnny's Car-Hop
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