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Harbor Committee Meeting
23rd July, 2004
4:30 pm at Utility Board room
Present: Harris Parsons; Leslie Goss-Gruner; Elby Burr; Chippy dupont; Louisa
Evans; Steve Malinowski; Arthur Kjuipers; Mike Conroy; Karla Heath
By Phone: Bill Stengel
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Leslie opened the meeting by asking all present to verify their contact
information to update the membership list.
Leslie then reported:
. On the FY 2005 proposed budget of $2,040, which is the same as
the FY 2003 request. She noted that the $7,000 request for 2004
was approved to cover the proposed bathymetry study and
mooring grid overlay project.
. That John Evans was doing a lot of rescue/tow type work and was
also busy relocating people improperly anchored. After some
committee discussion, Leslie said she will reiterate with the Bay
Constables that overnight mooring is permitted only on east side,
not west side, of Goose Island Channel. John's wife is keeping a log
of his Bay Constable activities.
Mooring Applications were reviewed as follows:
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o Bill Reed requested a mooring off of his new house for the
IOD "Golf" and a "Bahamian mooring" off of his shoreline for
his dinghy. It was determined that his IOD should remain on
its current mooring (was R. Kennedy's) due to congestion in
the requested location. He must notify his neighbors before
mooring the dinghy in front of his property. The Bahamian
moor must also be arranged in such a way as not to
interfere with navigation in Goose Island Channel. Some
members thought this might be a difficult situation at low
tide.
o Frank Bohlen asked that the Committee review the prior
decision to change Bob Doyen to an off island resident
status. Because of all the years he and his family had been
on island, perhaps he could continue to pay the islander fee.
It was determined that exceptions to this rule would set a
bad precedent, thus Mr. Doyen would be asked to pay the
off island fee. It was noted that he had not paid last year or
this year.
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o Question raised if Dick Miller had paid last year for the
mooring off of Clay Point for "Sleighride" as no fee is
collected outside the flasher. (the answer is no, he did not
pay)
o Sarah Tremaine requested a mooring in Crab Cove
(Chocomount) next to Calhoun and Rand. The committee
approved the request asking Karla to return check for this
year and request that she notify neighbors of her intention
to place a mooring.
o 100 "Jester" syndicate's request to take over Michael Wray's
100 mooring was approved.
o Alex Stanley on Avenue B was approved for a mooring. It is
a pre-existing mooring therefore no neighbor notification
required and no fee as outside flasher.
o It was noted that Doyen mooring for "L'i1 Brotha" was in the
water without application/permit. Leslie said she'd ask Tom
about it.
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Mike Conroy reported: Boaters had been obeying speed limits well, he hadn't had
to move too many boats off of private moorings, and that the 4th of July
weekend was a safe one. Mike reported that Leslie had called asking him to
remove an illegal mooring at Kean's. The Troopers will try to identify the boat
owner to arrange return of the tackle being stored at PCM. Mike mentioned that
he only goes to Hay Harbor and East Harbor if called. Several members noted
that they had observed people staying overnight on "friends" moorings located in
the west field in West Harbor. Mike said he would be will be more vigilant. Leslie
will mention this to John Evans.
Leslie mentioned congestion in East Harbor, particularly on weekends. She
mentioned that it appeared that no rules were being broken other than
trespassing. There was discussion of signage to post on the beach. Harris will
talk to Pat Schiestl of the F. I. Club about posting a "No Trespassing" sign or
perhaps a "Residents Only" sign at high tide mark along the beach on 15th
fairway.
Leslie briefly touched on FI Yacht Club marina issues. Trash and dinghy space
(transient and local) are problems. Committee members gratefully noted that
there is no longer a "Transients Welcome" sign at the site. The question was
raised if there was need for another dingy float. It was generally agreed that
creating more space for transients was not a good idea when local boaters
weren't yet accommodated.
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It was reported that offshore fishing vessels docked in the Pirate's Cove area had
been improperly disposing of fish carcasses. Leslie mentioned that she would
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check the Southold Town Code, which is specific on such matters, and speak to
the offenders. The Constables can enforce this provision of the code. It was
suggested that there should be signs posted at the P.O. and Silver Eel Cove
about proper disposal of fish cleaning waste.
With regard to foreign moorings (moorings set by unknown off islanders) it was
determined that it is the Bay Constable's job to pull non-permitted moorings and
take them to be stored for up to a year (length of storage time to be reviewed
by Town attorney) at PCM at which time the components could be used for Town
channel marks at Fishers Island.
Leslie reported that Captain Heublein has requested permission to dock a larger
boat (48') that he purchased to run a single trip in the morning and a single trip
in the afternoon in the winter, roughly October through April. Captain said this
change was generated largely by safety. He feels a bigger boat is safer in bad
winter weather. Discussion determined that more information was necessary
regarding boat specifications and crew requirements. A committee member
registered disappointment over losing extra trips back and forth during the
winter. Leslie said she would pass that along to the Civic Association.
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Leslie reported that the bathymetry study and mooring grid overlay project
would begin in late September. Scope of study was redefined due to increased
congestion in outer harbor out to Clay Point. Parameter includes flasher off
Hawk's Nest Point on a line to Rafferty's dock on Clay Point Road and into the
harbor excluding Darby's Cove to a point ending at BD barn. Elby asked about
the grid square size to be used. Leslie mentioned that it would be necessary to
provide fleet information to assist with grid overlay.
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The next meeting will be on Friday, 8th October at 4:30 pm
Respectfully submitted;
Karla S. Heath, Committee Clerk
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