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THORNTON SMITH
SCTM# 1000-121-1-1 and
1000-113-7-19.2
This application has been withdrawn.
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PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS gOFFO(,-
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Richard G. Ward, Chairman Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
George Ritchie Latham, Jr. %k Z
Bennett Orlowski, Jr. �yC P. O. Box 1179
Mark S. McDonald Southold, New York 11971
Kenneth L. Edwards ��l #t '�a�^ Fax(516)765136
Telephone (516) 765-1938
PLANNING BOARD OFFICE
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
April 14, 1995
Joseph M. Gold
Fishermans Beach Road
Cutchogue, New York 11935
RE: Property of Thornton Smith
North side of Sound Ave., Mattituck
SCTM# 1000-121-1-1 . 1
Dear Mr. Gold:
On April 3, 1995, Thornton Smith, owner of the above mentioned
property, and Tim Caufield of the Peconic Land Trust met with the
Planning Board to discuss a limited development proposal for the above
mentioned 80 acre parcel.
Mr. Smith wishes to sell the development rights on approximately 35 acres
of his property. In addition, he wants to subdivide the remaining 55 acres
into five, approximately five acre residential lots, with the remaining
land to be included in a conservation easement to the Peconic Land Trust.
In 1989, the Planning Board granted preliminary approval to a major
subdivision of 35 lots on Mr. Smith's property. Although this approval has
expired, the potential for the property to be developed in a similar
manner remains.
From our discussion with Mr. Smith, it is apparent that the pivotal part
of the proposal is the purchase of the development rights on the 35 acre
area. The 35 acre area is located on prime agricultural soils in addition
to being located adjacent to an existing vineyard and winery. The
Planning Board feels that the property fulfills the criteria for the
purchase of development rights and supports a Town purchase of the
development rights on this property.
Please feel free to contact Melissa Spiro if you require any additional
information pertaining to this property.
Sing ely
%� ��Richard G. Ward S
Chairman
cc: Thornton Smith
Tim Caufield
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PLANNING BOARDy
MEMBERS
Bennett Orlowski, Jr., ChairmanZ
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George Ritchie Latham, Jr. , � • � SCOTT L. HARRIS
Richard G. fy
Ward o�; Supervisor
Mark S. McDonald '� �'
Kenneth L. Edwards � `r```'`� Town Hall, 53095 Main Roa,
PLANNING BOARD OFFICE P'0. Box York
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Telephone (5I6) 769.1938 Southold, New York 11971
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Fax (516) 765-1823
August 7, 1992
CERTIFIED Mp.IL
Daniel C. Ross
Wickham, Wickham
P.O. Box 1424 & Bressler, P.C.
Mattituck, New York 11952
RE: Major Subdivision of
Thorton Smith
Dear Mr. Ross: SCTM# 1000-121-1-1, p/o 19
The Planning Board recently reviewed the above mentioned
subdivision application.
On June 4, 1991, the Planning
extension of the Preliminaryg Board granted a
III. Since complete final applications approval for six month
not received within this period
o time,
Sections I, II and
period of timefor the sections were
approval has expired. the preliminary
Accor
future
Will requirena newaapplicationrandsl to subdivide this property
application fee.
Please contact this office ifyou have
any questions
regarding the above.
Very truly yours,
Bennett Orl
Chairman owski, Jr. �Hrs
CC: Thornton Smith
PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS rn SCOTT L. HARRIS
Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman Supervisor
George Ritchie Latham, Jr.
Richard G. Ward '�?� ' Jr Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
Mark S. McDonald P.O. Box 1179
Kenneth L. Edwards PLANNING BOARD OFFICE Southold, New York 11971
Telephone (516) 765-1938 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Fax (516) 765-1823
September 18, 1990
Daniel C. Ross
Wickham, Wickham & Bressler, P.C.
Main Road P.O. Box 1424
Mattituck, New York 11952
RE: Major Subdivision of
Thornton Smith Section I
SCTM# 1000-121-1-1, P/O 19
Dear Mr. Ross:
Enclosed please find a copy of the Town Board's September
11, 1990 resolution approving a bond estimate in the amount of
$329,850. 00 for the above mentioned subdivision.
Please contact this office if you have any questions.
Very truly yours,
Bennett Orlowski, Jr. no
Chairman
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Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 1 1971
JUDITH T.TERRY FAX(516)765-1823
TOWN CLERK TELEPHONE(S16)765-1801
REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
THIS IS TO CERTIFY THAT THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS ADOPTED BY THE
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD AT A REGULAR MEETING HELD ON SEPTEMBER 11, 1990:
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby approves
the amount of $329,850.00 for a bond for roads and improvements in the
major subdivision of Thornton Smith Estates, Section I, at Mattituck, all in
accordance with the recommendation of the Southold Town Planning Board.
Judith T. Terry
Southold Town Cler
September 12, 1990
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P.O. Box 1 179
Southold, New York 11971
JUDITH T.TERRY FAX(516)765-1823
TOWN CLERK TELEPHONE(516)765-1801
REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
THIS IS TO CERTIFY THAT THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS ADOPTED BY THE
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD AT A REGULAR MEETING HELD ON SEPTEMBER 11, 1990:
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby approves
the amount of $329,850.00 for a bond for roads and improvements in the
major subdivision of Thornton Smith Estates, Section I, at Mattituck, all in
accordance with the recommendation of the Southold Town Planning Board.
/OUJ—u T. Terry
Southold Town Clerk
September 12, 1990
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PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS1 . .
j,'�3 SCOTT L. HARRIS
Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman Supervisor
George Ritchie Latham, Jr.
Richard G. Ward ��� ?1 ''�' Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
Mark S. McDonald P.O. Box 1179
Kenneth L. Edwards PLANNING BOARD OFFICE Southold, New York 11971
Telephone (516) 765-1938 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Fax (516) 765-1823
September 11, 1990
Judith T. Terry
Southold Town Clerk
Main Road
Southold, NY 11971
RE: Major Subdivision of
Thornton Smith
SCTM# 1000-121-1-1, P/O 19
Dear Mrs. Terry:
The following resolution was adopted by the Southold Town
Planning Board at a meeting held on Monday, September 11, 1990.
RESOLVED to adopt the bond estimate dated as revised August
27, 1990, and to recommend same to the Town Board. The bond
estimate is in the amount of $329,850. 00, with an inspection fee
in the amount of $19,791. 00.
Please contact this office if you have any questions
regarding the above.
Very truly yours,
Bennett Orlowski, Jr. rns
Chairman
Encl. Bond estimate
May 8 , 1990
Revised August 27 , 1990
CONSTRUCTION COST ESTIMATE
Thornton Estates, Section 1
at Mattituck, T/O Southold,
Suffolk County, New York
Item Descriotion Otv & Unit Unit Price Total
Clearing & Grubbing 2 . 0 Acre $2 ,500. 00 $ 5, 000. 00
Excay. , Backfill & Grading 10400 C.Y. 2. 00 20, 800. 00
Fine Grading 5290 S.Y. 1. 50 7, 935. 00
4" Asphalt Pavement 1245 Tons 60. 00 74 , 700. 00
4" Stone Blend 590 C.Y. 50. 00 29,500. 00
Concrete Curb 3440 L.F. 10. 00 34, 400. 00
18" Dia. CMP 1422 L. F. 20. 00 28 , 440. 00
10' Dia. Leaching Pool 11 Each 2 , 500. 00 27,500. 00
Catch Basins 9 Each 1, 600. 00 14 , 400. 00
Manholes 3 Each 1, 600. 00 4, 800. 00
Driveway Aprons 133 S.Y. 25. 00 3, 325. 00
Topsoil & Seed 9200 S.Y. 2 . 50 23 , 000. 00
Conc. Monuments 6 Each 50. 00 300. 00
Deep Fire Wells 1 Each 10, 000. 00 10,000. 00
85 Street Trees 85 Trees 200 . 00 17 , 000. 00
l . f Fence 1150 l. f Fence 25. 00 28 , 750. 00
Subtotal $329 , 850. 00
68 Inspection Fee 19 , 791. 00
$349 , 641 . 00
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PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS
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Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman eY� " _:. ,. O� SCOTT L. HARRISSupervisor
George Ritchie Latham, Jr. - +�
Richard G. Ward
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
Mark McDonald P.O. Box 1179
Kennethh L. Edwards .�
PLANNING BOARD OFFICE Southold, New York 11971
Telephone (516) 765-1938 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Fax (516) 765-1823
September 11, 1990
Daniel C. Ross
Wickham, Wickham & Bressler, P.C.
Main Road P.O. Box 1424
Mattituck, New York 11952
RE: Major Subdivision of
Thornton Smith
SCTM# 1000-121-1-1, P/O 19
Dear Mr. Ross:
The following resolution was adopted by the Southold Town
Planning Board at a meeting held on Monday, September 10, 1990.
RESOLVED to adopt the bond estimate dated as revised August
27, 1990, and to recommend same to the Town Board. The bond
estimate is in the amount of $329,850. 00, with an inspection fee
in the amount of $19,791. 00.
Please contact this office if you have any questions
regarding the above.
Very truly yours,
Bennett Orlowski, Jr. ry"S
Chairman
Encl. : Bond estimate
May 8, 1990
Revised August 27 , 1990
CONSTRUCTION COST ESTIMATE
Thornton Estates, Section 1
at Mattituck, T/O Southold,
Suffolk County, New York
Item Description Otv & Unit Unit Price Total
Clearing & Grubbing 2 . 0 Acre $2 , 500. 00 $ 5, 000. 00
Excay. , Backfill & Grading 10400 C.Y. 2 . 00 20, 800. 00
Fine Grading 5290 S.Y. 1. 50 7, 935. 00
4" Asphalt Pavement 1245 Tons 60. 00 74, 700. 00
4" Stone Blend 590 C.Y. 50. 00 29 , 500. 00
Concrete Curb 3440 L.F. 10. 00 34, 400. 00
18" Dia. CMP 1422 L.F. 20. 00 28 , 440. 00
10' Dia. Leaching Pool 11 Each 2, 500. 00 27, 500. 00
Catch Basins 9 Each 1, 600. 00 14, 400. 00
Manholes 3 Each 1, 600. 00 4, 800. 00
Driveway Aprons 133 S.Y. 25. 00 3 , 325. 00
Topsoil & Seed 9200 S.Y. 2 . 50 23 , 000. 00
Conc. Monuments 6 Each 50. 00 300. 00
Deep Fire Wells 1 Each 10, 000 . 00 10, 000. 00
85 Street Trees 85 Trees 200 . 00 17 , 000. 00
l. f Fence 1150 l. f Fence 25. 00 28 , 750 . 00
Subtotal $329 , 850. 00
68 Inspection Fee 19 , 791 . 00
$349 , 641 . 00
Mineola ROWNE
SIDNEY B. BOWNE & SON
FOUNDER
Sidney B.Bowne,P.E.,L.S.
(1922-1959)
PARTNERS August 21, 1990
Chester C.Kelsey,P.E.,L.S.
Robert A.Stanton,P.E.
Robert W.Brown,L.S.
2abdie1 A.Blackman,P.E.,L.S. Mr. Bennett Orlowski , Jr., Chairman
Frank J.Antetomaso,P.E. Planning Board
Town of Southold
53095 Main Road
ASSOCIATES Southold, NY 11971
George A.Style,P.E.
Jerry D.Almont,P.E.
George L.Fagan,Jr.,Ph.D.,P.E. Re: Bond Review Thorton Estates, Section 1
Frank Capobianco,C.E. Mattituck, New York
Pau le,P.E. (SBB No. 87644)
Roger L..C.ccCocchi,P.E.
Dear Mr. Orlowski :
SPECIAL CONSULTANTS
Thomas R.Pynchon,L.S. We have reviewed the Bond Estimate dated May 8, 1990
Prof.H.F.Soahngen,P.E.,L.s. prepared by the applicants engineer for Section 1 of Thorton
Estates. The estimate is accurate but does not account for
SENIOR STAFF street trees or the fence around the recharge areas .
Francis J.Lynch
Philipp F.Stegman 85 street trees at $200.00 each
Joseph F.seegman = $ 17,000.00
William T.Styne 1150 l .f. fence at $ 25.00 per l .f. = 28,750.00
Ralph Anderson,L.S. 9B,Weber
Ralph AOriginal Total = 284,100.00
A.Barton Cass,P.E. New Total = 329,850.00
Fredric C.Griffiths,Jr.,L.S. Plus 6% Inspection Fee = 19 791.00
Antlrianl Harris,P.E. >
Gregg G.Kelsey,P.E. Grand Total = $ 9, Q�
Dane C.Kenny,P.E.
Howard W.Miller,P.E. If there are questions concerning this estimate, please
Richard P.Slutmh,P.E. contact this office.
Very truly yours,
SIDNEY B. BOWNE & SON
CONSULTING ENGINEERS
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cc: Ray Jacobs
Ray Dean _
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AUG 2 3 1990
45 Manor Road Smithtown, New York 11787 (516) 724•D611..
235 East Jericho Turnpike . P.O. Box 109 . Mineola, New York 11501 • (516) 746-2350
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PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS 'T'
Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman VQ'w.El� SCOTT eHARRIS
Supervisor
George Richie Latham, Jr.
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Richard G. Ward
Mark S. McDonald Town Hall, 53095 P.O. Box Main Road
Kenneth L. Edwards
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PLANNING BOARD OFFICE Southold, New York 11971
Telephone (516) 765-1938 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Fax (516) 765-1823
July 10, 1990
Daniel C. Ross
Wickham, Wickham & Bressler, P.C.
P.O. Box 1424
Mattituck, New York 11952
RE: Major Subdivision of
Thornton Smith
SCTM# 1000-121-1-1, p/o 19
Dear Mr. Ross:
The Planning Board reviewed the Draft Covenant and
Restriction which was submitted on July 2, 1990.
The Board is in favor of Number II which states that "There
shall be no clearing or grading on any lot except for an area
equal to fifty percent ( 50%) of the total square footage of the
particular lot, the intent being to preserve at least fifty
percent of the natural vegetation on each lot within the
subdivision. "
In addition, the Board reviewed Mr. Smith' s question
regarding an extension for Section 1. Since the final maps have
been submitted, an extension is not necessary.
Please contact this office if you have any questions
regarding the above.
Very truly yours,
Bennett Orlowski, Jr.
Chairman orf
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LAW OFFICES
WICKHAM, WICKHAM Sc BRESSLER, P.C.
MAIN ROAD, P.O. BOX 1424
WILLIAM WICKHAM MATTITUCK,LONG ISLAND
ERIC J.BRESSLER NEW YORK 11952 MORTGAGE OFFICE
ABIGAIL A.WICKHAM 516-298-5300
DANIEL C.ROSS 516-298-8353 TELEFAX NO,516-298-2012
KARENJ.HAGEN TELEFAX NO.516-298-8565
HUSERT F.SULLIVAN
JOSEPH C.SAVINO
July 2, 1990
Southold Town Planning Board
Southold Town Hall
Southold, N.Y. 11971
Attention: Mr. Bennett Orlowski, Jr.
Re: Thornton Smith
SCTM No. 1000/12111/1
Dear Mr.Orlowski:
Pursuant to the Board's resolution of November 20, 1989
regarding the requested covenant prohibiting removal of
vegetation and the subsequent conference with the board on
this subject, please find enclosed drafts of two covenants.
Draft number 1 is favored by Thornton Smith. As you
can see, it prohibits clearing more than 50% of a particular
lot. The reasons Mr. Smith desires this approach as opposed
to the approach suggested in the resolution were reviewed at
the conference.
Draft number 2 is a covenant requested by the Board.
If the 50% covenant is not acceptable, please revicw t*
second draft and inform me if any further changes are
required.
Very truly yours,
DCR:vm
cc: Mr. Thornton Smith
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DECLARATIONS OF COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS
DECLARATION made this day of , 1990, by Thorton E.
Smith residing at c/o Kuhn, Smith & Harris, Inc. , 352
Seventh Avenue, New York, New York 10001, hereinafter
referred to as the "Declarant" ;
WHEREAS, the Declarant is the owner in fee simple
of a certain parcel of land situate at Mattituck, Town of
Southold, County of Suffolk and State of New York, and
designated on the Suffolk County Tax Map as District 1000,
Section 121. 00, Block 01. 00, Lots 001. 000 and 019. 020, being
the premises described in two deeds, both recorded in the
Suffolk County Clerk's office, the first deed having been
recorded on January 4, 1967, in Liber 6094 at Page 518, and
the second deed having been recorded on , in Liber
at Page , a metes and bounds description is shown on
Schedule A attached hereto and made a part hereof,
hereinafter referred to as the "premises" .
WHEREAS, the Declarant intends to subdivide said
premises for residential purposes and desires to subject
said premises to certain conditions, covenants and
restrictions in order to preserve the maximum open space,
natural scenic beauty and natural vegetation and to prevent
overcrowding and to conserve the ground water resources of
the Town of Southold, and
WHEREAS, the Declarant has applied to the Planning
Board of the Town of Southold for approval of the
subdivision of the premises as a Majorr Subdivisi.pn,_ - -.
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NOW, THEREFORE, the Declarant does hereby declare
that the aforesaid premises and every portion thereof is
hereby held and shall be conveyed subject to the conditions,
covenants and restrictions hereinafter set forth, and that
every purchaser of said premises or any portion thereof, by
the acceptance of a deed thereto, covenants and agrees that
the premises so purchased shall be held subject to the
covenants, conditions and restrictions hereinafter set
forth.
1. There shall be no clearing or grading within
any lot except that necessary for siting and constructing a
house with the intent of preserving as much of the natural
vegetation on each lot as possible.
2 . These covenants and restrictions can be
modified only at the request of the then owner of the
premises with the approval of a majority of the Planning
Board of the Town of Southold after a public hearing.
Adjoining property owners shall be entitled to notice of
such public hearing but their consent to such modification
shall not be required.
3 . That all of the covenants, conditions and
restrictions contained herein shall be construed as real
covenants running with the land and shall continue and
remain in full force and effect at all times as against the
owner of the premises or any portion thereof in perpetuity.
Said covenants, conditions and restrictions shall be binding
upon, inure to the benefit of and be enforceable by the
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Declarant, his heirs, successors and assigns; any owner of
any portion of the aforementioned premises, their heirs,
successors and assigns, and the Town of Southold, and its
successors and assigns, and the failure of any of the
foregoing to enforce any of such covenants, conditions and
restrictions shall in no event be deemed a waiver of the
right to do so thereafter.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the Declarant has hereby
executed this Declaration of Covenants and Restrictions the
day and year first above written.
THORTON E. SMITH
STATE OF NEW YORK)
) ss. .
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK)
On the day of 1990, before me personally came
THORTON E. SMITH, to me known to be the individual described
in and who executed the foregoing instrument, and
acknowledged that he executed the same.
Notary Public
29TSMITHI
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DECLARATIONS OF COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS
DECLARATION made this day of 1990, by Thorton E.
Smith residing at c/o Kuhn, Smith & Harris, Inc. , 352
Seventh Avenue, New York, New York 10001, hereinafter
referred to as the "Declarant" ;
WHEREAS, the Declarant is the owner in fee simple
of a certain parcel of land situate at Mattituck, Town of
Southold, County of Suffolk and State of New York, and
designated on the Suffolk County Tax Map as District 1000,
Section 121. 00, Block 01. 00, Lots 001. 000 and 019. 020, being
the premises described in two deeds, both recorded in the
Suffolk County Clerks office, the first deed having been
recorded on January 4, 1967, in Liber 6094 at Page 518, and
the second deed having been recorded on
in Liber
, at Page , a metes and bounds description is shown on
Schedule A attached hereto and made a part hereof,
hereinafter referred to as the "premises" .
WHEREAS, the Declarant intends to subdivide said
premises for residential purposes and desires to subject
said premises to certain conditions, covenants and
restrictions in order to preserve the maximum open space,
natural scenic beauty and natural vegetation and to prevent
overcrowding and to conserve the ground water resources of
the Town of Southold, and
WHEREAS, the Declarant has applied to the Planning
Board of the Town of Southold for approval of,(6e 3
subdivision of the premises as a Major subdivision,
NOW, THEREFORE, the Declarant does hereby declare
that the aforesaid premises and every portion thereof is
hereby held and shall be conveyed subject to the conditions,
covenants and restrictions hereinafter set forth, and that
every purchaser of said premises or any portion thereof, by
the acceptance of a deed thereto, covenants and agrees that
the premises so purchased shall be held subject to the
covenants, conditions and restrictions hereinafter set
forth.
I. There shall be no clearing or grading on any
lot except for an area equal to fifty percent (50$) of total
square footage of the particular lot the intent being to
preserve at least fifty percent of the natural vegetation on
each lot within the subdivision.
2 . These covenants and restrictions can be
modified only at the request of the then owner of the
premises with the approval of a majority of the Planning
Board of the Town of Southold after a public hearing.
Adjoining property owners shall be entitled to notice of
such public hearing but their consent to such modification
shall not be required.
3 . That all of the covenants, conditions and
restrictions contained herein shall be construed as real
covenants running with the land and shall continue and
remain in full force and effect at all times as against the
owner of the premises or any portion thereof in perpetuity.
Said covenants, conditions and restrictions shall be binding
upon, inure to the benefit of and be enforceable by the
Declarant, his heirs, successors and assigns; any owner of
any portion of the aforementioned premises, their heirs,
successors and assigns, and the Town of Southold, and its
successors and assigns, and the failure of any of the
foregoing to enforce any of such covenants, conditions and
restrictions shall in no event be deemed a waiver of the
right to do so thereafter.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the Declarant has hereby
executed this Declaration of Covenants and Restrictions the
day and year first above written.
THORTON E. SMITH
STATE OF NEW YORK)
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK) ss. :
On the day of , 1990, before me personally came
THORTON E. SMITH, to me known to be the individual described
in and who executed the foregoing instrument, and
acknowledged that he executed the same.
Notary Public
29TSMITH2
PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS , "^
Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman
t SCOTT L. HARRIS
Supervisor
George Ritchie Latham, Jr.
Richard G. Ward Town Hall, 53095 Main Ro:
Mark McDonald P.O. Box 1179
Kennethh L. Edwards
PLANNING BOARD OFFICE Southold, New York 11971
Telephone (516) 765-1938 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Fax (516) 765-1823
May 21, 1990
Thornton E. Smith
44 Brookside Avenue
Plandome, NY 11030
RE: Major Subdivision of
Thornton Smith Section 1
SCTM# 1000-121-1-1
Dear Mr. Smith:
Enclosed please find the Southold Town Board' s May 8, 1990
resolution determining the Park and Playground fee for Section 1.
This fee must be submitted prior to any endorsement of the
final subdivision map for Section 1.
Please contact this office if you have any questions
regarding the above.
Very truly yours, /
R
Bennett Orlowski, Jr. �f
Chairman
Encl.
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JUDITH T.TERRY Southold, New York 11971
TOWN CLERK FAX(5 16)765-1823
REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS TELEPHONE(516) 765-1801
OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
THIS IS TO CERTIFY THAT THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS ADOPTED BY THE
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD AT A REGULAR MEETING HELD ON MAY 8, 1990;
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
determines that the amount of $20,500.00 shall be deposited with the Town
in lieu of land for Park and Playground purposes in the major subdivision
of Thornton Estates, Section I, at Mattituck, owned by Thornton Smith, of
which sum $100.00, being the appraisal cost, shall be deducted and paid to
the General Fund, the balance to be deposited in the Park and Playground
Trust Account.
udith T, Terry
Southold Town Clerk"
May 11, 1990
.PLANNING BOARD • 17 MAY 14, 1910
C Mr. Ward: O.K. , you will accomplish the paving within a one
year time frame.
Mr. Duffy: Definitely.
Mr. Ward: O.K. , we can do it in a one year review like we do
everybody else.
Mr. McDonald: One of the questions that was asked and I don't
know whether it got back to you was if you have the authority to
amend the site plan.
Mr. Duffy: Mr. and Mrs. Gatz?
Mr. McDonald: Yes.
Mr. Duffy: Absolutely.
Mr. McDonald: Do we have anything on record on that.
Mr. Duffy: I got a letter in the mail today asking for a
letter and I think also you asked me to have my site plan
changed to draw a line showing the difference between phase one
and phase two of the proposed site plan. Before I have an
architect draw up, go ahead and change the plan, he penciled
this in in different color inks and suggested I bring this to
C you and show it to you and ask if when he draws that line will
it be O.K?
Mr. McDonald: Melissa, do you have a copy of the letter you
sent?
Melissa: It' s in the file.
Mr. McDonald: O.K. , thank you.
Melissa: Can we keep that map?
Mr. Duffy: I' ll bring it back tomorrow.
Melissa: I would like Bob to take a look at it. How about if
we keep it and you can pick it up tomorrow morning?
Mr. Duffy: O.K. . The green is where the fence is going to
be. Anything else?
Mr. Orlowski: Not right now.
Mr. Duffy: Thank you very much.
Mr. Orlowski: O.K. our next appointment is with Thorton
Smith to discuss his subdivision.
PLANNING BOARD •18 MAY 14, 199
C SCTM # 1000-121-1-P/0 1. 1.
Mr. Dan Ross: Wickham, Wickham and Bressler for
Thorton Smith. Basically there are four points that we would
like to address tonight. The first one Ken Abruzzo is going
to address it, it concerns the fencing around the drainage or
the request not to have any fencing. The second one is the
covenants and restrictions that have been requested by the board
prohibiting the removal of vegetation except that which is
necessary to site to construct the house. The third issue is
the money in lieu of land which I addressed at the April 9th
meeting. We would just like to touch upon that and the fourth
issue is a request for an extension of time, the six month
period between preliminary and final approval with respect to
that part of the major subdivision that is not included in
section I. There is a letter in the mail to the board. I guess
we would like to address the fencing issue first and Ken is
going to address that.
Ken Abruzzo: Members of the board, ladies, Ken Abruzzo from
Young and Young land surveyors. I think we have talked about
this before also but I came tonight with some figures that
hopefully might shed a little different light on our planning
methods. For years we did standard recharge basins
approximately ten feet deep that would hold ten foot of water on
a one on two slope with fences and screened planting around the
C fences. Over the years, Valerie, who is not here tonight, and
some other planners had asked to see some shallow drainage areas
that were more suitable to farm development or some open space
development that would not have the ten foot deep, would not
have these ugly fences around the recharge basins. We have
designed quite a few of those around including some in Southold
that are presently built and work. Reydon Court is one that
was approved by your board without any fences with a shallow
drainage area which works very well. There have been some other
ones, Country Club Estates was in a natural drainage swail
that we lowered the grade a little bit and there is no fencing
and that works. This particular area has a very big natural
depression with some wetlands in it. But in order that we
didn' t divert the storm water directly into the wetlands, we
propose to have a ponding area. It' s not a pond and it is not
designed to have water in it except during rainfalls. We put
some defusion wells in the bottom of these ponding areas of
natural low drainage areas in order to insure that the water
recharges into the ground and would not filter up and create a
pond. I have some figures here. I did some calculations today,
and for a two inch rainfall, which this system was designed for,
after a two inch rainfall or in this case a little more then a
2. 3 inch rainfall, the water would run through an overflow
system and into the wetland area that presently exists on the
site. During a two inch rainfall if there was absolutely no
percolation into the ground, if no water discharged off in a
twenty four hour period, there would be three feet of water in
drainage easement A and three and one-half feet of water in
. PLANNING BOARD • 19 MAY 14 , 19•
C drainage easements B and C.
That storm occurs according to the charts from the airport
drainage and Long Island soil about once every five years.
Certainly we have one inch storms much more frequently. If we
had a one inch storm with absolutely no percolation, with
nothing going into the ground water, just a solid container, you
would have about one foot eight inches of water in these
recharge basins if nothing leaks out. The other consideration
is when we started to design systems like this we were concerned
that we didn' t want the steep one on two slopes, that we made
slopes of one on five which were very, very shallow. Very soft
slopes that anybody walking into this pond could turn around and
walk out. Be it a small child or an adult it doesn' t matter.
They are not steep where they would fall into something and with
that thought in mind if there was six or eight feet of water in
there, which there can't be in these particular ones because of
the overflow systems, somebody couldn' t fall into them such as
in a swimming pool or in a regular sump. I think if you read
through the reports, I don' t have any of those figures but just
through my own memory you have heard about children drowning in
recharge basins, you have heard about children drowning in the
swimming pools where they fall and they can' t get out. These
are certainly not the type of slopes we are talking about. They
are very, very flat and very natural, one on five type slopes
and to design a system such as we have that will lend itself to
the vineyard area or the farm area and then to come around and
C put a six foot high chain link fence around it you are taking
away all the natural beauty of what we tried to design here and
I think what the Town of Southold is trying to do is a more
natural type of planning. I think that we went with this
natural design based on a few other plans that were approved
here without fencing and that we certainly wouldn' t have gone to
this type of design if we knew we had to fence it because we
could have made these drainage areas much smaller and much
deeper and not taken the amount of room we had. Again, I would
just like to bring this up that maybe the board can rethink this
before everything is done and all the eyes are dotted and is
are crossed and we can rethink this fence issue. We want to
make it look nice but I can' t see how we can make these natural
shallow drainage areas look nice when we are going to put six
foot high chain link fences around them. I just ask the board
to rethink this and if you want a report on some of the numbers
I 've given you I 'm happy to forward that off to you but again we
are talking about very, very shallow areas with defusion wells
or leaching pools within the areas that will recharge this water
back into the ground. Thank you.
Mr. Orlowski: Does the board have any comments or questions?
Mr. Ward: Is this Thorton Smith that you brought? Would you
show us where the overflows are?
Mr. Abruzzo: Yes.
.PLANNING BOARD • 20 MAY 14, 19�
C Mr. Abruzzo: These two systems will level out by way of this
pipe that is actually equalizing the two systems out. We have a
drainage area here which I believe we called A which takes care
of the runoff here and also takes up the water on Sound Avenue.
Mr. Ward: What is contributing to this?
Mr. Abruzzo: In acres? The contributing lines on all drawn
on here.
Mr. Ward: This basically is coming into here.
Mr. Abruzzo: That' s correct and this part of the road is
coming in here.
Mr. Ward: What is happening here?
Mr. Abruzzo: This system will take care of its own in here
if indeed we wanted these to equalize out so that this would act
as an overflow for this one. The whole system is designed based
on this one type that when the water reaches this elevation it
will go into this overflow pool which is also connected from A.
This was situated at a place where there was a natural Swale
going down the wetlands so it wouldn' t erode and there' s no
steep slope. It was also a hundred feet away from the wetlands
and when this pond reached this elevation or this ponding
C area, if it did, the water would then overflow and would go into
the area here. Based on the twenty six contour here just this
natural hole here that would hold over six inches of rainfall
not counting these things if there was ever a torrential rain
where we had six inch rainfall.
Mr. Ward: Before you overflow, what is the depth of these
basins?
Mr. Abruzzo: This basin, there is no percolation at all,
three and one half feet of water and that is it.
Mr. Ward: What you are saying is that you feel comfortable
having a pond in the specs?
Mr. Abruzzo: It it not a pond it is a ponding area.
Mr. Ward: You feel comfortable having it three and one half
feet deep and no fencing?
Mr. Abruzzo: That is correct. I don' t think there is going
to be three and one half feet of water in there Mr. Ward. That
is based on absolutely no percolation. I 'm sure that you know
that the greatest calculations are done based on a containment
area.
Mr. Ward: The problem is, we really don' t have problems when
these are flat and spread out but here you've got them right in
PLANNING BOARD •21 MAY 14, 199,
C backyards and you take the last couple of years with the storms
we've had there would be an awful lot of water in there.
Mr. Abruzzo: Even with a hundred year storm you wouldn' t
have more then three and one half feet in here if there was no
percolation and we put the fusion wells in here or leaching
pools that will guarantee that this land won' t get siltered up
it is always going to have a place to leach. Long Island soil
is perhaps one of the best soils around for leaching. The
Health Department for years had it leaching at three gallons per
square foot. Just recently in the last four or five they went
toone and a half gallons per square foot which I think is a
safety factor. But certainly, if we had an inch of rainfall and
I believe if you went to some of the other ones around here and
looked after a normal storm of a half of an inch of rain or a
quarter of an inch of rain they are bone dry. It leaches as
fast as it goes in here. Now, most storms if we got the inch of
rain in two hours or an hour and one half, certainly you would
have some ponding in the bottom of this but with these
leaching pools we have, the water would defuse, I believe so
quickly, and so do other engineers around that this will
theoretically not have three and one half feet of water. Some
of the proof I mentioned here the other day is to drive down the
expressway where we have all the runoff from the expressway and
the recharge basins are dry except for the ones that were built
on bog areas or something like that. They are wet all the
Ctime. But certainly the ones that were in good sand are dry.
Mr. Ward: Based on what you' re telling me since there is such
capacity here why do you need to retain.
Mr. Abruzzo: Because the DEC didn' t want us to drain directly
into wetlands.
Mr. Ward: Why shouldn' t we retain something shallower?
Mr. Abruzzo: Less than two inches you mean?
Mr. Ward: Less than three and one half foot potential. What
about a foot and one half. Something a lot shallower.
Mr. Abruzzo: Well, we can. The DEC likes us to hold two
inches of rainfall before it goes in there. We could certainly
have spread this out.
Mr. Ward: These are set at two inch?
Mr. Abruzzo: Yes. Certainly the key I believe is also the
slopes that we are talking, one on five slopes that are not very
steep. They are very easily maintained. I 'm sure there' s a lot
of yards with a slope of one on five and that it is not the type
of hazard and we have ponds in Riverhead, I understand this is
Southold right now, but are open in the back of the yards and
unfenced. We have a lot of ponds, Wolf pit pond which was just
PLANNING BOARD •22 MAY 14, 199:
C approved and I can't remember anybody falling in. There are a
lot of people living on the bay and the Long Island Sound and
the Atlantic Ocean that certainly don' t fence there backyard
when they abut the ocean and the sound so again I think we are
taking something that we are trying to design that is pleasing
and that works and is very functional and we' re really not
making it look very nice. Anything else?
Mr. Thorton Smith: I think I have been before this board with
a subdivision longer than most people have been on the board. I
don' t know, ten or fifteen years, something like that. I do
think we are pretty close to the end of the process and I think
that Ken and Dan Ross have represented me very well for a long
time but I 'm here to speak of several issues that are before you
tonight because I think they are important. Incidentally, by
background I am a civil engineer and I am registered in this
state and several others, construction manager and I 've served
on the Board of Zoning Adjustment and I 've been a Building
Inspector and I will make reference to that on the next issue
and I'm also a retired Colonel of Engineers so I am somewhat
familiar with these problems. I think Ken has expressed the
situation well with regard to the ponding areas. The slope is
as he says one that a baby could crawl out of and there is more
water now in a natural pond in the area that has been put off
limits by the DEC than there generally will be in anyone of
these ponds. The three and one half feet is for a five year
C storm without any percolation and we only have five year storms
once every five years. I personally think, and I think I have
some background in this area that this would be a much
preferable solution than to what we could have done and which I
asked Ken not to do which is to design a utilitarian one foot
horizontal five foot vertical deep ponding area and put up a
chain link fence. I do hope you folks will consider it and I
understand that some members of your group have been looking at
the situation in Southold and in Southampton and Riverhead,
I think that is what they are doing and I think it would be a
good thing for this community.
Mr. Orlowski: Any other comments or questions on this? O.K. ,
you' re second question on the C & R' s on the vegetation removal?
Mr. Ross: Mr. Chairman, basically, I met with Valerie Scopaz
on this and she said that the two areas that the board was
concerned with was one, whole wiping out of the vegetation by
the builder and areas of very steep incline which if the
vegetation was removed would cause erosion. That really, it
seems as though those being the concerns the requested
covenants doesn' t address that. We' re here for some feedback
and I see basically four different approaches that could be
taken that is a percentage type of application per lot. So many
feet from the boundary for each particular lot, an envelope or
the one that we prefer in this case is a for review process. I
don' t know if that has ever been done here in the town with
respect to landscaping on residential lots but it would seem as
_PLANNING BOARD • 23 MAY 14, 19�
C though since the lots especially in the subdivision are going to
be so different possibly before a homeowner would have a
particular plan someone from the board or someone from the
building department could come down and review it. Those are
the different approaches but we are open to suggestions and
would be most eagar to see the fourth suggestion entertained.
Mr. Orlowski: You feel that putting in clearing and grading
within each lot shall be limited to that necessary for siting
and constructing a house with the intent of preserving as much
of the natural vegetation on the site as possible, is to
restrictive.
Mr. Ross: Yes, I addressed that in a letter to Ms. Scopaz
dated April 12, 1990 but basically it sounds like it should be
read that if you've got poison ivy ten feet from your front
door, you can't remove it. Now, I don' t think that is the
boards intent but these covenants are going to run in favor of
other people. There are going to be neighbors who are going to
have the right to enforce them as time goes on and I think it
should be addressed to what the board is trying to prevent here
and I don't think this is it.
Mr. Orlowski: Do you want to rewrite this C & R in your own
words and we' ll run it by our attorney.
C Mr. Ross: I would be happy to, I was just hoping to get some
feedback in terms of what direction you want.
Mr. Orlowski: It is a standard covenant and we have approved
many subdivisions with this on it. It sounds like you want to
subject yourself to a site plan approval on each building lot
which to me wouldn' t make much sense.
Mr. Ross: The thought crossed my mind but Thorton Smith feels
that each lot has its own particular values and that is the way
he wants to go. I'm willing if , what we' re looking for is some
feedback and I ' ll draft it the way the board wants to go.
Mr. Thorton Smith: I suspect with regard to the thirty five
lots that are here, there may only be four or five and I 'm not
even sure there are those where the landscape in regard to the
site would create any problem at all. It would seem to me,
having been a building inspection, that having a building
inspector pass, if you gentlemen are concerned about what the
owners may do to the property when they are built, the building
inspector must pass on a landscape plan as well as on a building
plan and apply his knowledge to this particular site with a
review by one of your boards, I would be very comfortable with
that as it' s a position I 've been in before and I think is a
reasonable solution to your concern that the individual
landowner will not do a poor job on the property. If someone
wants to put a swimming pool in or wants to change the grades a
little bit I think he should be allowed to do that. I think
PLANNING BOARD • 24 MAY 14, 19�
C what has happened here is that you put this covenant in in the
past and
essentially not enforced it and if it were enforced I don' t see
really how it is very enforceable and I think it would sort of
negate the profession of landscape architecture as it is written
now.
Mr. Ward: I think the concern that we had and the reason it was
in was the fact that some of the lots were wooded and rather
than see a clear cut of a lot, maybe a simpler way to address
this is if you could present a reasonable percentage of
clearing, just some number that you are comfortable with.
Mr. Thorton Smith: Obviously, the landowner is going to want
to clear enough to build his house and have a driveway and maybe
have some lawn. It so happens that we do have some wooded lots
that you folks are very well aware of and I appreciate your
support in allowing John Simcich and I to switch properties so
that essentially he is before you now asking for a winery on
what was my property as opposed to asking to clear those back
lots to put a winery where it would have otherwise been, I hope
you can understand by virtue of that change that I am in favor
of making those wooded lots as attractive lots and I think any
homeowner that I know of is probably going to have to pay a
little more money for it and he is not going to want just to
clear that lot any more than it is going to be done in an
C attractive landscape plan. Once again, to have this board or
any other board or the building inspector pass judgement on an
appropriate landscape plan is quite acceptable to me.
Mr. Ward: It is more the clearing plan that is our concern than
what somebody ends up doing with their lots.
Mr. Smith: Can we agree that the clearing plan will be reviewed
by a responsible party?
Mr. Dan Ross: What if I dropped a few covenants and run them
by the Town Attorney?
Mr. Orlowski: O.K. Your other question money in lieu of?
Mr. Ross: We would just like to reiterate our objection. The
board has indicated at the April 9, 1990 meeting it' s position.
It seems as though by requiring to show the parkland, on the
yield map and then refusing to take land, the parkland and
insisting on the money, it seems like a double dip and I address
the issue the board indicated that it was going to do things the
way it has been done in the past and we just want to reiterate
our objection to that. I think Thorton has a few words
regarding that.
Mr. Smith: One of the things I 'm very happy about in this plan
and I was before this board probably ten or fifteen years ago
with what I believe was the first cluster proposal that you had
•PLANNING BOARD •25 MAY 14, 19�
C and I was so unhappy with it and I thought the concept of
cluster proposal hadn't gotten very far that I just withdrew the
proposal and put it on ice. We now have a proposal as you
probably know that with your permission we hope to be able to
put off a good part of the forever greenland. Essentially all
of the land which is not wooded will be put into grapes which I
think is just a much better proposal then the one I had ten
years ago which was no proposal at all. We would be happy to
give you what ever acreage of that property you want as
parkland as one of the alternatives I think is allowable under
the code. I think had we understood the circumstances, you've
changed your perimeters for the yields in the last year or so as
we have been working on it. If we had a yield map now we would
have given you a yield map with thirty six lots instead of
thirty five. We started earlier under an earlier system and we
came up with thirty five and the process has gone along and we
didn't intend to change it and I think we are locked into thirty
five lots now but we would be happy to offer you the parkland
and I think we could find a suitable place. The fact that we
could offer you the parkland, I believe there is sort of a
double take here. It is a complicated situation and obviously
we have to leave it to you gentlemen and ladies to determine
what should be done.
Mr. Orlowski: Does the board have any comment on that? O.K. ,
we' ll take that into consideration. I have a request for an
Cextension of preliminary approval.
Mr. Ross: Yes, we submitted the final map of section I but for
the other part we request an extension.
Mr. Orlowski: That would only be on Section 2 and 3 right?
Mr. Ross: Right.
Mr. Orlowski: O.K. , I make a motion that the Southold Town
Planning Board grant a six month extension of preliminary
approval for Section 2 and 3 from May 20, 1990 to November 20,
1990.
Mr. Edwards: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Edwards, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham.
Mr. McDonald: Mr. Chairman, I abstain.
Mr. Orlowski: opposed? So moved.
PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS 1 -.i ti SCOTT L. HARRIS
Benne[[ Orlowski, Jr., Chairman Supervisor
George Ritchie Latham, Jr.
Richard G. Ward Town Hall, 53095 Main Roa,
Mark S. McDonald P.O. Box 1179
Kenneth L. Edwards PLANNING BOARD OFFICE Southold, New York 11971
Telephone (516) 765-1938 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Fax (516) 765-1823
:lay 10, 1990
Daniel C. Ross
Wickham, Wickham & Bressler, P.C.
Main Road
P.O. Box 1424
Mattituck, New York 11952
RE: Major Subdivision for
Thornton Smith
SCTM## 1000-121-1-1
Dear Mr. Ross:
The Planning Board reviewed your letter dated April 30,
1990 in reference to the filing of the final maps for the future
sections of the above mentioned subdivision:
The filing of the final maps for Section 1 do not satisfy
the six month requirement for the filing of the final maps for
the additional sections. In order to continue a valid
preliminary approval for the additional sections, extension
requests must be made every six months.
Please contact this office if you have any further
questions.
Very truly yours,
Bennett Orlowski, Jr. / /f
Chairman
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cif+ Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
�y01 �a Southold, New York 11971
JUDITH T.TERRY FAX(516)765-1823
Tour CLERK TELEPHONE(516) 765-1801
REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
THIS IS TO CERTIFY THAT THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS ADOPTED BY THE
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD AT A REGULAR MEETING HELD ON MAY 8, 1990:
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
determines that the amount of $20,500.00 shall be deposited with the Town
in lieu of land for Park and Playground purposes in the major subdivision
of Thornton Estates, Section 1, at Mattituck, owned by Thornton Smith, of
which sum $100.00, being the appraisal cost, shall be deducted and paid to
the General Fund, the balance to be deposited in the Park and Playground
Trust Account.
udith T. Terry
Southold Town Clerk
May 11, 1990 i',I. __ �jAY 15 le3D
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PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS _ SCOS LryHpeisoARRIS
Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman
George Ritchie Latham, Jr.
Richard G. Ward Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
Mark S. McDonald
Kenneth L. Edwards Southold, New York 11971
PLANNING BOARD OFFICE
Telephone (516) 765-1938 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Fax (516) 765-1823
May 15, 1990
Daniel C. Ross
Wickham, Wickham & Bressler, P.C.
Main Road P.O. Box 1424
Mattituck, NY 11952
RE: Major Subdivision of
Thornton Estates, Section I
SCTM# 1000-121-1-P/O 1
Dear Mr. Ross:
The following resolution was adopted by the Southold Town
Planning Board at a meeting held on Monday, May 14, 1990 .
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board grant a six
month extension of preliminary approval for Section II and
Section III from May 20, 1990 to November 20, 1990.
Please contact this office if you have any questions
regarding the above.
Very truly yours,
Bennett Orlowski, Jr. s
Chairman
cc: T. Smith
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road o " _n . SCOTT L. HARRIS
P.O. Box 1179 �^��,_r - Supervisor
Southod, New York ®�'.� �� Fax (516) 765-1823
11971 �� Telephone (516) 765-1800
PLANNING BOARD OFFICE
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Mn o
Robert W. Brown
Sidney B. Bowne & Son
45 Manor Road
Smithtown, New York 11787
Dear Mr. Brown
The Southold Town Planning Board hereby refers the
following application to your office for review.
Application Name: t hoRN'tonl FSTcxye'- C�eA'ory Z
Tax Map No. : loon - 121- I - NA I
Bowne File No.
Hamlet Location: Mo cic
Type of Application:
Sketch Subdivision Map (Dated
Preliminary Subdivision Map (Dated
Final Subdivision Map (Dated
Road Profiles (Dated
Grading and Drainage Plans (Dated
Other Con rock; Costs (Dated / / O )
Vocea bA \%Cant
Sketch Site Plan (Dated
Preliminary Site Plan (Dated
Grading and Drainage Plans (Dated
Other (Dated / / )
Please develop an estimate of what it will cost to
undertake t e following review of the nclosed plan (s) :
Enter the cost estimate on the enclosed reply sheet, then
send its facsimile to this office.
If the Planning Board wishes you to proceed with the
review, it will send a facsimile of a purchase order authorizing
the work to be done. The actual purchase order will be sent
through the mail.
If there are any questions, please contact Planning Staff.
Very Truly Yours,
Bennett Orlowski, Jr.
Chairman �5
cc: Ray Jacobs, Highway Department
F
May 8, 1990
CONSTRUCTION COST ESTIMATE
Thornton Estates, Section 1
at Mattituck, T/O Southold,
Suffolk County, New York
Item Description Qty & Unit Unit Price Total
'learing & Grubbing 2 . 0 Acre $2 ,500. 00 $ 5, 000. 00
xcay. , Backfill & Grading 10400 C.Y. 2 . 00 20,800. 00
ine Grading 5290 S.Y. 1. 50 7 , 935. 00
" Asphalt Pavement 1245 Tons 60. 00 74, 700. 00
" Stone Blend 590 C.Y. 50. 00 29, 500. 00
'oncrete Curb 3440 L.F. 10. 00 34 ,400. 00
8" Did. CMP 1422 L. F. 20. 00 28, 440. 00
0' Dia. Leaching Pool 11 Each 2 , 500. 00 27, 500. 00
atch Basins 9 Each 1, 600. 00 14,400. 00 ;
anholes 3 Each 1, 600. 00 4,800. 00
)riveway Aprons 133 S.Y. 25. 00 3, 325. 00
'opsoil & Seed 9200 S.Y. 2 . 50 23 , 000. 00
onc. Monuments 6 Each 50. 00 300. 00
eep Fire Wells 1 Each 10, 000. 00 10, 000. 00
Total $284, 100. 00
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PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS SCOTT L. HARRIS
- j. :�S
Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman Q; _ O� Supervisor
George Ritchie Latham, Jr.
Richard G. Ward Town Hall, 53095 Main R-
Mark S. McDonald P.O. Box 1179
Kenneth L. Edwards PLANNING BOARD OFFICE Southold, New York 119.
Telephone (516) 765-1938 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Fax (516) 765-1823
May 10, 1990
Daniel C. Ross
Wickham, Wickham & Bressler, P.C.
Main Road
P.O. Box 1424
Mattituck, New York 11952
RE: Major Subdivision for
Thornton Smith
SCTM# 1000-121-1-1
Dear Mr. Ross:
The Planning Board reviewed your letter dated April 30,
1990 in reference to the filing of the final maps for the future
sections of the above mentioned subdivision:
The filing of the final maps for Section 1 do not satisfy
the six month requirement for the filing of the final maps for
the additional sections. In order to continue a valid
preliminary approval for the additional sections, extension
requests must be made every six months.
Please contact this office if you have any further
questions.
Very truly yours,
Bennett Orlowski, J �45 /�
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Chairman
YOUNG o& YOUNG
400 08TRANDER AVENUE
RIVERHEAD, NEW YORK 1tgo1
516-727-2303
ALDEN W.YOUNG FAX 516-727-0144 HOWARD W.YOUNG
Anfmsioenl EngU~%%Lnnd 8.-v ym ja„d &.N Y.
May 8, 1990
Town of Southold Planning Board
Main Road
Southold, New York 11971
ATTN: Ms. Melissa Spiro
RE: THORNTON ESTATES, SECTION 1
at Mattituck,
T/O Southold, New York
(85-1194)
Dear Ms. Spiro:
Enclosed herewith is a copy of the Construction Cost Estimate
prepared for Thornton Estates, Section 1.
Very truly yours,
Thomas C. Wolpert, P.E.
TCW/sjt
Encl.
cc: Mr. Thornton Smith + Encl.
May 8, 1990
CONSTRUCTION COST ESTIMATE
Thornton Estates, Section 1
at Mattituck, T/O Southold,
Suffolk County, New York
Item Description Qtv & Unit Unit Price Total
Clearing & Grubbing 2. 0 Acre $2 ,500. 00 $ 5, 000. 00
Excay. , Backfill & Grading 10400 C.Y. 2 . 00 20,800. 00
Fine Grading 5290 S.Y. 1. 50 7, 935. 00
4" Asphalt Pavement 1245 Tons 60. 00 74,700. 00
4" Stone Blend 590 C.Y. 50. 00 29,500. 00
Concrete Curb 3440 L.F. 10. 00 34, 400. 00
18" Dia. CMP 1422 L.F. 20. 00 28,440. 00
10' Dia. Leaching Pool 11 Each 2 ,500. 00 27, 500. 00
Catch Basins 9 Each 1, 600. 00 14, 400. 00
Manholes 3 Each 1, 600. 00 4,800. 00
Driveway Aprons 133 S.Y. 25. 00 3, 325. 00
Topsoil & Seed 9200 S.Y. 2 . 50 23, 000. 00
Conc. Monuments 6 Each 50. 00 300. 00
Deep Fire Wells 1 Each 10, 000. 00 10, 000. 00
Total $284, 100. 00
I Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
�9 P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
JUDITH T.TERRY FAX(5 16)765-1823
TOWN CLERK TELEPHONE(516) 765-1801
REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
April 17, 1990
Lewis Edson
First Towne Realty
Main Road
Southold, New York 11971
Dear Lewis:
The Southold Town Board, at their regular meeting held on April
10, 1990, adopted a resolution engaging your services for the purpose
of conducting an appraisal of the subdivision Thornton Estates, Section
I, at Mattituck, so the Board may determine the amount of money to be
deposited with the Town in lieu of land for park and playground
purposes.
When you have. completed your appraisal, please file it with this
office. Thank you.
Very truly yours,
Judith T. Terry
Southold Town Clerk
Enclosure
cc: Planning Board
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N Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
O fit- P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
JUDITH T.TERRY 1 FAX(5 16)765-1823
TOWN CLERK TELEPHONE(516) 765-1801
REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
THIS IS TO CERTIFY THAT THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS ADOPTED BY THE
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD AT A REGULAR MEETING HELD ON APRIL 10, 1990:
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby engages
the services of Lewis Edson, at a fee of $100.00, for the purpose of
conducting an appraisal of the major subdivision Thornton Estates,
Section I, at Mattituck, owned by Thornton Smith, so the Town Board
may determine the amount of money to be deposited with the Town in
lieu of land for park and playground purposes, all in accordance with
Section A106-38E(3) from the Subdivision of Land, Code of the Town
of Southold.
Judi h T�JTerry
Southold Town Cie k
April 16, 1990
S�(6FI LE
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LAW OFFICES
WICKHAM, WICKHAM a BRESSLER, P.C. V ^o
MAIN ROAD. P.O. BOX 1424
MATTITUCK. LONG ISLAND
WILLIAM WICKHAM NEW YORK 11952
ERIC J.BRESSLER MORTGAGE OFFICE
ABIGAIL A.WICKHAM 516-298-8353 516498-5300
DANIEL C.ROSS
April 12, 1990
Southold Town Planning Board
Southold Town Hall
Southold, New York 11971
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Attention: Ms. Valarie scopaz Ano, 13
Re: Thornton Estates
Dear Ms. Scopaz: �' - r- ✓ ✓
You will recall that when we met on January 25, 1990
regarding the above referenced Subdivision, I indicated that
Thornton Smith was concerned with respect to the requested
covenant set forth in the Board's Resolution of November 20,
1989. As we discussed the concern.- is that a strict
application of the proposed covenant could result in poison
ivy ten feet from a person's front door. We realize that is
not the Board's intent, but the covenant would run in favor
of parties other than the Board.
I recall you had two concerns, the first of which was
that a subsequent owner would strip the trees and vegetation
for building purposes. You were also concerned with areas
of steep incline that would erode upon the removal of
vegetation. You indicated that the Board would in all
probability entertain alternative suggestions. I have
discussed various approaches with Thornton Smith, including
a percentage covenant and one that would prohibit the
removal of vegetation within so many feet of designated
boundaries (the back and side) or from areas with an incline
greater than a certain degree. After some consideration we
concluded that any such approach would restrict reasonable
landscaping plans of homeowners. For this reason we suggest
some form of review and approval by Planning Board personnel
or the Building Department with respect to landscaping plans
that involve the removal of vegetation. We could work out
some general guidelines to be followed with respect to such
review. I would appreciate your thoughts on this matter.
V truly urs,
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smitplbd8l
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Town Hall, 53095 Main Road S
P.O. Box 1179 i'° SCOTT L. HARRIS
Southold, New York ,
�`�- Supervisor
11971 �� ; Fax (516) 765-1823
Telephone (516) 765-180(
PLANNING BOARD OFFICE
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
April 10, 1990
Judith T. Terry
Southold Town Clerk
Southold, New York 11971
RE: Major Subdivision for
Thornton Estates Section 1
SCTM# 1000-121-1-P/0 1.1
Dear Mrs. Terry:
The following resolution was adopted by the Southold Town
Planning Board at a meeting held on Monday, April 9, 1990.
It was RESOLVED that as per Section A106-38E of the Town
Code, the subdivision entitled Thornton Estates Section 1 be
referred to the Town Board for a determination of the amount of
the cash payment to be deposited in lieu of land reservation for
park and playground purposes.
This subdivision is for 14 lots on 29. 3064 acres, and is
located on the north side of Sound Avenue, 952. 2 feet east of
Bergen Avenue in Mattituck. This is Section I of a three
section development. Final maps for Sections II and III have
not yet been submitted.
Enclosed for your assistance is a copy of the proposed
subdivision.
Very truly yours,
{!
Bennett Orlowski, Jr.
Chairman
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cc: Thornton Smith
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Town Hall, 53095 Main Road ^� SCOTT L. HARRIS
P.O. Box 1179 Vr _ Supervisor
Southold, New York �Jy y,.`0�� Fax (516) 765-1823
11971 �� + Telephone (516) 765-1800
PLANNING BOARD OFFICE
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Robert W. Brown
Sidney B. Bowne & Son
45 Manor Road
Smithtown, New York 11787
Dear Mr. Brown
The Southold Town Planning Board hereby refers the
following application to your Office for
-
Application Name: 1Rorr33+0 .� Es-ba'�'e nlaC %O" Z
Tax Map No. : 1 onp _
Bowne File No. : P7453
Hamlet Location:
Type of Application-
Sketch Subdivision Map (Dated
Preliminary Subdivision Map (Dated / / )
X Final Subdivision Map (Dated 1 / .23 /90 )
Road Profiles (Dated / / .24 / 'a )
Grading and Drainage Plans (Dated / 26 / In )
Other
Sketch Site Plan (Dated
Preliminary Site Plan (Dated
Grading and Drainage Plans (Dated
Other (Dated / / )
Please develop an estimate of what it will cost to
u dertakeh fo lowing review of the enclosed plan (s) :
N
b
Per
Enter the cost estimate on the enclosed reply sheet, then
send its facsimile to this office.
If the Planning Board wishes you to proceed with the
review, it will send a facsimile of a purchase order authorizing
the work to be done. The actual purchase order will be sent
through the mail.
If there are any questions, please contact Planning Staff.
Very Truly Yours,
��
Bennett Orlowski, Jr.
Chairman
CC: Ray Jacobs, Highway Department
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road o r
P.O. Box 1179 y i SCOTT L. HARRIS
1 wJ, �+ ,� l Supervisor
Southold, New York y y Fax (516) 765-1823
11971 Telephone (516) 765-1800
PLANNING BOARD OFFICE
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Bennett Orlowski, Jr. , Chairman
Southold Town Planning Board
P.O.Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
Re:
SCTM No.
S.B. File No.
Dear Mr. Orlowski, Jr. ,
It is estimated that the cost of reviewing the above-noted
application as per your letter of September 1989 should not
exceed. $
No work in excess of that amount will be undertaken by this
office unless so authorized by the Planning Board in writing.
Please notify this office in writing if you wish us to
undertake the review.
Very Truly Yours,
Robert W. Brown
Southold Town Planning Board
Facsimile Number: 765-1823
S" h��1 �-
YOUNG 4h YOUNG
400 OSTRANDER AVENUE
RIVERHEAD, NEW YORK aigo,
510-727-2303
ALDEN W.YOUNG FAX 516-727-0144 YOUNG
W.HOWARD
An4sawn t Engineao lF Lund Surwyoo Land SRD W.
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March 5, 1990
Town of Southold
Planning Department
Main Road
Southold, New York 11971
RE: THORNTON ESTATES '--�ec')-ionl
at Mattituck,
T/O Southold, New York
(85-1194)
Dear Members of the Board:
At the direction of Mr. Thornton Smith, we are enclosing
herewith twelve (12) prints of the Final Map dated January 23 , 1990,
and twelve (12) prints of the Final Road & Drainage Plan last dated
January 26, 1990.
Please place this matter on the Planning Board's agenda at your
earliest convenience.
Should you require any additional data, please do not hesitate
to contact us or Mr. Thornton Smith.
Very truly yours,
Howard W. Young
HWY/ ]t
Encl .
cc: Mr. Thornton Smith + 2 prints each map + bill
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YOUNG 4h YOUNG
. 400 OSTRANDER AVENUE
RIVERHEAD, NEW YORK 11901
518-727-2303
ALDEN W.YOUNG FAX 818-727-0149 HOWARD W.YOUNG
Pwfi.siw.al En9iroao VLie Siuvayoo Lana &--Yr
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March 14, 1990
Town of Southold Planning Board
Main Road
Southold, New York 11971
RE: Subdivision "Thorton Estates"
(Formerly Thorton Smith)
at Mattituck, T/O Southold, New York
1000-' "_^"_-a b11 _ I - I , P�olY
Dear Members of the Board:
Young & Young has, for many years, attempted to design and
Promote alternate means of storing and recharging storm water.
One of the simple designs is the old fashioned recharge basin.
These consist of a hole in the ground with steep slopes, a steel mesh
fence and screen planting. These recharge basins are very functional
but hardly aesthetically pleasing.
We have had great success with artificial ponds, with shallow,
gently sloping ponding areas, and a combination of leaching pools
with overflow ponding areas. These systems should not require fencing
and can be landscaped in a natural manner.
There are those planners, engineers and lawyers that are stuck in
the old traditions. They are short sited and impede attempts to create
attractive developments. We are aware of the liability issues and
certainly do not want to create hazards. We believe that properly
designed alternatives are safer than the traditional fenced recharge
basin.
We were very pleased when we found that Planner Valerie Scopaz
was discouraging the use of traditional recharge basins in the Town
of Southold. Subsequently, we designed drainage facilities for a few
Major Subdivisions in the Town using alternate storm water management
systems. Some of these subdivisions include The North Forty, Laurel
Lane Estates, Highpoint Meadows, and North Ridge Estates. The gentle
1990
MAR 1 5
Page 2
March 14, 1990
Town of Southold Planning Board
RE: Subdivision "Thorton Estatesit
(Formerly Thorton Smith)
sloping ponding areas were not to be fenced and were to provide a
natural setting that could be enjoyed by the community.
Please be
substantial amounts nofdthat e onl
water inthemdwhening aaedesignlfrequencyestorm
occurs. For example the frequency of a 5 inch rainfall is once in
25 years.
Young & Young would like to see Southold Town benefit from
progressive land planning and engineering concepts. We will make
ourselves available to provide technical data, photography of
constructed facilities, plans of approved projects and gladly furnish
a tour of some existing facilities.
It is our understanding from correspondence from your Board and
from your engineer, Sidney B. Bowne Associates, that our future
subdivisions will indicate traditional recharge basins.
Very truly yours,
FAL
HWY 4sjD Howard W. Young
cc: MsValerie Scopaz
GMs^Melissa Spiro
Mr. Thornton Smith
Sidney B. Bowne Associates
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4. LENGTH OF ROAD - 4160 .L.F \� ® \\ I o ti `Y 3 ' o le" LRM p®06004° x24s �% I 496
5. AREA OF OPEN SPACE- 38.5 *Acres 2,-0 \ AVEN E z76 zas q91 ^\ \
6. % OPEN SPACE 48 � �! 53 � I t�Il c3 /
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!12' ACCELERATION LANE SOUIrIUIL iU'.�•'�
THORNTON E. SMITH
J OFFER OF DEDICATION TO -70N OF SOUTHOLt> Ali AT MATTITUCK
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD °F "E� A°
TOPOGRAPHIC MAP SUFFOLK COUNTY , N.Y. Y �*
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PREPARED BY !I DATUM IS MEAN SEA LEVEL (-0-O SET IPI * D
2 SUFFOLK COUNTY TAX MAP N0. DIST. 1000 SECT. 121 BL.01 LOTS 01 8 P/0 19.9 SEE
LOCKWOOD, KESSLER B BARTLETTE INC. SCALE I" = 100' 3 TOPOGRAPHIC MAP PREPARED BY PHOTOGRANMETRIC METHODS /
CONTOUR INTERVAL 2' FROM PHOTOGRAPHY DATED: NOV 26, 1969. H 45C'! 71
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"I HEREBY CERTIFY THAT ALL LOTS SHOWN ON THIS PLAT COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS
OF THE BUILDING ZONE ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN OFSOUTHOLD, EXCEPT AS MODIFIED
PURSUANT TO SECTION 281 OF THE TOWN LAW AND ARTICLE XVIII OF THE CODE OF
THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD.
THE DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENT S FOR ALL LOTS SHALL CONFORM TO LOW DENSITY
RESIDENTIAL R- 40 DISTR I CT
"I HEREBY CERTIFY THAT THIS MAP WAS MADE BY ACTUAL SURVEYS COMPLETED JAN.23,1990
AND THAT ALL CONCRETE MONUMENTS SHOWN THUS!• ACTUALLY EXIST AND THEIR POSITIONS ARE oxo
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CORRECTLY SHOWN AND ALL DIMENSIONAL AND GEODETIC DETAILS ARE CORRECT.
HOWARD W YOUNG,NYS. L.S. LIC. NO.45893 \
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F TOWN OF SOUTHOLD.FOR HIGHWAY PURPOSES -
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ROAD ro M A VALID E E CORY DIST 1000 SECT.21BL.L LOT D/D 1 I DATE JAN. 23,1990 �O N SUXNEyD
PLANOOME, NY 11030
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