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SOUTHOLD, L. I., N.Y. 119"?'1
Telephone 765-2660
APPEAL BOARD
MEMBER
Robert W. Gillimie, ,Jr., Chairman
Robert Bergen
Charles Grigonis, Jr.
Serge Doyen, Jr.
Fred Hulse, Jr.
MINUTES
SOUTHOT. O TOWN BOARD 0~ ~PPEALB
December ' i?~ i~?0 "-
A regular meeting of the Seuthold Town Boar~ ef Appeals was
held at 7.3 P. N., Thursday, December 17, 1970, at the Town 0ffiee
I~ain Road, Southeld, New York.
There were present: l~essrs: Robert W. Gillispie, Jr., Chairman;
Robert Bergen; Charles Grigouis, Jr.; Fred Hulse, Jr.
Absent: F~. Serge Doyen, Jr.
Also present: N~. Howard Terry, .Buil~ing Inspector.
~I,~:C HEARING: Appeal No, 1392 - 7:30 P.M, (E.D.S.T.)~ apon
appl~¢atien~of~Harol~' Keber, Eastwood Drfve Extension & He!den
Avenue, Cutchog~e, New~Terk, for a variance in accordance with the
Zoning 0rdinance, Article III, Sect~om 300, SubseCtion (6), and
Article III, Section 309, for pe~mission to construct accessory
bmilding_in sideyard are~ w~t~i ins~fficient setback. LocatiOn of
y: Eastweed Drive Extensien~& Holden AVenue, Let .~ 24 ef
i Estates, Section II, PleetsNeck, Gutchog%%e,~Newm..mTOrk. Fee
The Chairman opened the h~a~iug by reading the application
rom a. variance, legal notice of hea~iag, affidavit attesting to i~s
publication in the official newspapers, and ~tice te the applicant.
THE CHAIR~: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this ap~Iic~ati~n?
/~R. WA~0ID KOBER: i thi~k everything you have read su3mned it
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~R. BERG~'~: I haVe looked at the sitmation, and the~e is no
other place that he can place a garage.
THE CHAIRI~N: is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no response.)
A~ter investigation and inspection the Board finds that the
applicant requests permission to construct accessory building in
sideyard area with insufficient setback. The location of cesspools
prevents the garage from being located any. further to the rear ef
the property. The lot is triangmlar, facing on two streets;
cesspools are in the center ef the rea~ yard. The setback will
be comparable to other homes in the a~ea. The Board agrees with
the reasoning of the applicant.
The Board finds that strict application of the 0rdina~ce would
produce practical difficulties or ~unecessary hardship; the hardship
created is unique.and weald not be shar~d by all properties alike
in the immediate vicinity of this property and in the same use
district; and the variance wilt not change the character of the
neighborhood and will observe the spirit of the Ordinance.
On motion by N~. Bergen, seconded by ~r. Giilispie, it was
'RESOLVED Harold Kober, Eastwo'od Drive Extension & Holden Avenue,
Cutchegue, No, York, be GRANTED permission to construct~ accessory
building in sideyard area w~th~insufficient setback en property
located: Eastwood Drive Extension & Holden Avenue, Cutchogue, New
York, as applied for.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen, Grigonis,
Hulse.
PUB~tC ~RING:~ Appeal No. 13~3 7:40'P.~I- (E~D.S.T.), upon
applies ion of Chester ~l~wskl, ~qmash Avenue,~ Omtchog~e, New
York a Ja~s ~an~ing, ~Jacksom~Street, NeW S~elk, New Ye~k,
for :e in 'acc~r~anc~ ~ith~'the Zoning Ordinance, ~Article ~I,
Sec~i0n 300, Subsection ~6), and ~tic~e IiI,~Bectien 309, for
permission te construct accessory~building~in frcntyard area.
Location e~ property: south side ef Jackson Street, New Suffer,
New York, be~ded north by JackSe~ Street, east by Je~ P. Mann,g,
south by Peconic Bay, west by E. ~iarv~. Fee paid $5.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application for
a variance, legal notice of hearing, affidavit attesting to its
publication in the official newspapers, and notice to the applicant.
THE CHAIRNAN: The applicant has submitted a rough sketch
which indicates that the garage would be 200 Feet from Jackson
Street. This lot is 400 to 500 Feet deep and between the proposed
garage and the read'is a tennis court of 78 Feet~ about 36 Feet
behind the backstop; so you already have two structures between
the proposed garage and the street.
THE C~AIRNAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
For this application?
MR. CH ESTER ORLOWSKI: i would like to say that all the
garages on Jackson_Street~are on the road side. It is waterfront
property.
TBI~. CHA~: How wide is the lot?
MR. oRLO~jk~r: 200 Feet, but two b~others bought the property
so it is tplit,~ Each of them has 100 Feat. The driveway is a
mutual driveway.
THE CHAIRNAN: Does anyone else wish to speak for this applica-
tion?
(There was no response.)
THE C~IRMA~: is there anyone present who wishes te speak
against this~ application?
(There was no response.)
AFter investigation and inspectien the Board Finds that the
applicant requests permission to constr~ct accessory building in
Frontya~d area en property located south side of Jackson .Btreet,
New S~ffolk, New York. The lot'is a long lot lead~g From Jackson
Street to Peconic Bay. The proposed garage would be near the
dwelling but en the westerly side of the property se as not te
bleck the view From the house to the highway. There are other
garages in the Front yards of similar houses en this street.
The Beard Finds that strict application of the Ordinance would
produce practical difficulties er unnecessary ha~dSh.ip; the hard-
ship created is unique and would not be. shared by all properties
alike in the immediate vicinity of this property and in the same
use district; and the variance will not change the character of
the neighborhood and will observe the spirit of the Ordinance.
On motion by ¥~. Hulse, seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED Chester Orlowski, Pequash Avenue, Cutchog~e, New
~ork a/c_~ames~Nanning, JaCkson ~treet, ~ew Suffolk, New York, be
GRANTED permission to construct accessory building in frentyard
area on property located south side of Jackson S~reet, New Suffolk,
New Yerk, as applied for; subject to the following conditioms:
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The two-ca~ garage mUst be located at least 200 feet
from Jackson Street; and eight feet from the westerly
line.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen~ Grigenis,
Hnlse ~
PUBLIC -~ARING:~ Appeal No. 1394 - 8:00 P.M. (N.D.S.T.), ~pon
application of Dri-Gen Realty Corp., North Oakwood~Road, Laurel~
New York, for a~variance in accordance with the Zonfng Ordinance,
Article X, Eection 1008 (last paragraph) for permission to use
subdivision for multiple_residence dwellings with increased
density. Location of property: (Map ef Greenport Hemes) south
side ef Main Road, Greenport, Ne~ York, bounded north by Main Road,
east by Ninth ~treet, south by L. I. Rail~oad, west by A. Cassidy.
Fee paid
The Chairman opened the hearingby reading the application
for a variance, legal notice of hearing, affidavit attesting to its
publication in the official newspapers, and notice to the applicant.
THE CHAIR~9~I~: This application is for increased density.
(The Chairman~and members of the Board referred to the Map which
was prepared by Van Tuyl, dated July 30, 1970, which had accompanied
the application from Bri-Gen requesting a change of Zone.) It
doesn't appear that the surveyor gave the acreage.
MR. DRISCO~.T~: I represent ~ri-Gen Realty Corp. ~e have about
? and 1/~acres. THis is the proposed layout ef the apartments,
themselves.., one bedroom apartments.
THE CHAIRM&~: This application converts density by square
footage, and.not density per acre.
}~. DRISCOLL: It is 7 and 1/3 acres.
THE OHAIR~AN: Your property on the Van Tuyl map extends from
where to where?
NE. I~ISCOLL: From the Railroad te the Main Road. I think the
~igures are on the other mUp.
(The Chairman and members of the Board discussed the measure-
ments of the property.)
THE CHAiR~': I believe it is somewhere between ? and 7~
acres._ Anypersen wishing to speak For this application might
explain the history of it.
MR. BRISCOLI~: I am speaking for it because I think the Town
is in need of a..Senior Citizen Village.
THE CHAIRMAN: This term "Senior Citizen Village", how de you
propose to. keep.it Senior Citizens? ~hat would be the age limi-
tation? Broek~aven had-to.pass a ~pe~ial resolution, new in the
~tate.- You must be 5~ years old a~d have no children.
2. DRIBCOLL: We'are not going to put an age limit en
We will allow childless couples.
~R. DRISC OLL~·
run well ever 200.
THE CHAIRI~:
MR. DRiSCOI~:
T~E CEAIRNAN:
Couples with children will not be allowed te
Getting back to density; the density now can
Hew many people do you have new?
About !80, but there are some empty apartments.
180, including children.
There are about I0 empty apartments.
They are houses, are they net?
MR. DRiBcoI~: They are apartments. One is a unit ef fo~v.
~e have four, two and singles. There are eight singles. There
is eno with fo~r apartments in erie building; and about 18 doubles.
This would be 48 units. It started as 50 but ome burned down.
It started as 50 units en separate lets, individual filed lets;
each unit on i~s own let.
THE CHAIR.MAN: ~hen were these built?
MR. DR~COLL: They were built as housing for defense w~rkers.
THE CHAIRNA~: There have been several owners.
MR. ~RI~CO~: I can't answer that. The ~ederal ~ove~nment
built it for defense workers and it was sold te Joe Erupski.
~. DRIBO ~L14:
en it.
Twig CHAIRMAN:
MR.
You bemght it at auction.
From the Federal Government.
They foreclosed
Be, y~u have 38 units occupied.
~ut we have net fixed them up.
THE CHA~RNA~: This ~lan projects the building ef new units.
What do you~prepese te de with the eld ones?
I~R. DRI~COr.T.: We are going to try to relocate them and
rebuild them. Wetll fix them up on the outside. They are on
blocks. They have very good frames, sheathing inside and out,
and hardwood floors.
THE CHAIP~MAN: Does anyone else wish to speak for this
application?
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Does anyone present wish to speak agains~
this applicat ion?
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: I will have to speak against the density which
is way~ beyond that which is allowed.
FA~. DRISCOLL: You will have 100 units, but less people.
THE CHAIR~: We have spent ten or twelve years s~udying the
water supply. If yo~ have seven and a half acres, the maximum
density would be based on 12,%00 sq. ft. a lot, if each house
were separately located. However, the Board of Health would enter
into it except that, in ~his case, you do have utilities. On
larger subdivisions where water and sewage are not available, the
Board ef Health and the Town are going to 40,000 sq. Ft.
Ne have tried to recognize that with the whole thrust of
providing for the many people who are moving out here both from
western Suffolk and from Nassau, it is going to be necessary to
have cluster zoning but it still has te be related to water. The
water survey indicates a density of more than 2.2 dwellings per
acre; this is dwelling u~its. The restriction of "nc children"
that you propose Would not be in line with any ether town in
Suffolk County except Y~eismre Village which has a restriction of
"no children", unless visiting.
In trying to provide for our own situation out here, we have
evolved from years of work on it a figure of 8,000 sq. Ft. maxi-
mum for a living unit, not a dwelling unit. This is to cover
motels, apartments, etc. Under no circumstances can it exceed
8,000 sq. ft. for a dwelling unit. This is just the Board 0F
Appeals, not the Town Board. We can,t change the zon~ug laws.
We can make exceptions for top~graphical conditions, hardships,
etc., but we can't violate the basic concept in anything as
important as density.
F~. DRISCODL: You are telling me to put up 35 units.
T~E~CHA~: I am telling you the situation we are in. i
have discussed this with counsel, the Planning Board, and members
of the To~ BOard. There is one thing going i~ your favor and
that is~that you have ~on-conforming use. You~ density is denser
than what would be permitted under the present ordinance.
I~R. I~RISCO~._~: If I rebuild the Fifty units, I will have
ever 300 people_against_200 people, if we build new units.
THE CEAIRMAN: I am sure you are aware that where they are
trying te restrict the number of bedrooms, it is being held
constitutional. You can not zone out children. All we can
control is the number of dwelling u~its. In other words, the
density of dwelling units ena piece of property. The reason
you are here, I suppose, is that you would be permitted approximately
38 or 40 units under the past zoning ordinance, and under the present
ordinance you would, only be permitted about 30 units.
I understand that part ofthe theory in zoning it "B" was to
give you more latitude, if you moved the buildings off Shat property
and established them somewhere else, you could make the property into
something else other than apartments.
MR. DRISCOY~L: This property was primarily bought with the
approval of a lot of. people specifically for what we want te do.
THE CHAIRMAN: I also assume that you did not buy it out of
charity.
2~R. t}RISCOT,?~: You have to go ever a certain amount of apart-
ments to make it~profitable. It is not practical te take down %0
apartments to build less apartments.
THE CHAIRI~A~: I would be glad to hear from anyone else on the
Board,~ either "pro" or "con~.
MR. GRIGO~TE:~ If we c~Uld improve a little part of the area,
it would be~a lot~better than what we have there new.
MR. DRI~OOLI~ There would be less population. You can't put
seven or eight_eh~ldren in one bedroom.
TEE 'CHA]ZL~: The newest cases indicate that you can't restrict
an apartment~dwel!ing t~ one bedroom apartments. The theory of one
bedroom apartments is very simple; you can't Populate with children
who will' raise sclio~l taxes thereby inflicting extra tax en simgle
Families. I~ zoning, they have tried to put in all sorts of
restrictions that would prevent a small Family From establishing
itself. I am merely pointing out that if you get in an area where
you take in a partner, the partner being the government; it would
be far less restrictive.
MR. DRiSCOY~: I would not deal with the U. S. Government.
are not. yeu~., own bess.
T~E CNAIEi4AN: It would presumably reduce ~the number of
children in that area but if you reconstruct the houses elsewhere
on separate sites, there would be the same problem.
MR. DRISCOLL~ Right now, the Village of Greenport is working
with the Federal Government for low cost housing. They are
working to get these houses relocated. Where are you going to
put the people who are in that place? That is why the Village
wants it.
THE CHAIRMAN: You can not throw people out of low cost
housing without finding another place for them to go.
MR. DRISCOLL: It has nothing to do with the government.
THE CHAIRNAN: Then you would remove these people and put
them in the rebuilt houses.
MR. DRISCOLL: IF the Town takes the houses ever. If not,
they would be destroyed. The Village has been looking like that
for years.
T~ CHAIRMAN: Suppose they get them?
MR. DRI~COLL: Then they can do what they want with them.
THE CHAIRMAN: What will they solve?
MR. DRISCOLL: They are trying to rebuild Greenport and make
it look decent; to get decent housing. You can't take 38 families
and put them on the payroll. This is what will happen if we
rebuild without relocating these houses. The government has
absolutely nothing to do with om~ project. Do you have any
regulations that you govern part of Greenport Village? We stop
on the Village line.
THE CHAIRI~N: The only reason I brought that up is that we
belong to the Planning Commission and we hear quite frequently
what they can and can not do. They have not moved very strongly
yet but they could. The Suffolk Development Corporation is
supposed to be an insulating barrier.
MR. DRISCOLL: In the newspapers, it says the Federal Govern-
ment is going to build thousands of homes in Brookbaven and
~outhold Towns.
THE CHAIRM~: Did they name the corporation; the Suffolk
Development Corporation?
MR. DRiSCOLL: No. They are just stating the fact of how
many low income~houses would be put in each county or township,
and if these ho~ses were relocated that would be part of it for
~outhold Town.
T~ CHAIRN~N: My position would be (I am just speaking for
m~self) THat we would go somewhere in betyeen the proposed, which
is 8,000 sq. ft., which would give a density of %.2 on 7~ acres,
or 39 apartments. ~ince you do have non-conforming use there is
some basis, along the lines ~f my discussion with the Town Atterpey
today. I think we would be justified in permitting the same numoer
you have there now. That would not be depriving you in what
might be called vested rights. It is also supporttd by the fact
that you have electricity, gas, sewage, water. The big thing is
that yom have sewage and water.
hash this out.
private.
I, personally, would like to reserve decision and
I have a few thomghts I would like to discuss in
NR. GRIGONIS: U.D.C. ~aybe if you could show a little bit
that you are trying to.keep them out.
~. DRISCOL~: You are going to get the Federal Government
and you will get~what they want.
MR. ~: I will make a motion that we reserve decision.
TM~ CHAIRMAN: Are there amy other questions? If not, I will
second_ the. motion that we reserve decision until later tonight so
we can discuss it more fully.
FA~. HULS~: Ehall we hold it until the next meeting?
MR. DRISCOr~T~: Greenport is trying to deal with us. We have
to kmewwhether_we are going to sell them the houses or keep them.
MR. EUL~E: Would three weeks make that much difference?
~R. DRiSCOY~: This is for new ~aits; eno bedroom, i don~t
knew how big a landlord yom have been but I restrict the n~mber
of tenants that go into my apartments. I can do it with some-
thing new but I certainly can't do it with what is there now.
The leases are.going to specify that two people are going to live
there. I am mot going to stop a~yone ~rom having their grand-
children visit there, for at least a week.
THE CHAIRNAN: This would be similar to Leisure Village.
MR. DRI~CODL: I would take in younger married couples, i
do believe in mixing~ye~nger with older people. We are not goiug
in for coudominiums.
THE OHAIRNAN: $19,~00~te $38,000; one or two bedrooms; two
u~its;~ all one floor; slab type~ constrmctien.
MR. DRISCO~?~; Electric heat. People pay for their own
swimming pool. _You will let us know.
On motion-by ~. E~lse, seconded by Mr. Gillispie, it was
RESOSVED that decisiou en Application No. 1394 be postponed
~til the~mext meeting of the S~euthold Town Board ef Appeals is
held at the Tom Office, Main Road, ~outhold, New York.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- ~essrs: Gillispie, BerEen, GRI~onis,
Hulse.
For the Record: The following people appeared before the
~euthold Town Board~ of Appeals on December 17th, 1970. A
transcript of their complaint follows:
Re: Bittner Property
Nr. Angelo Petrucci
Firs. Aagele Petrucci
Nfs. Cornelia Charnews
F~. Edward Charnews
N~. John B. Sepenoski, Jr.
~i~s. John B. Eepenoski, Jr.
Nm. ~tanley ~epenoski
M~. Charnews (~r.)
Mr. Nelson ~c~
THE CMAIRMAN: What is the subject of the discussion?
i~R. A~ PETRUCCI: I was here last year and you ordered
the people not tO do again what they did this year. I spent
$100.00 for a Sign on my property in Peconic, a bit away from
the horse farm. They did the same thing again. It was F~iday
and they had horses r~nning aremnd all over.
~MR. JOHN B. SEPENOSKI, JR.: i kicked them off my land.
TEE CHAIRMAN~ This is a Hunt Club, Re~coats.
I~RE. CORNELIA CHARNEWS: They have 30 does and 30 horses.
I~RS. PETRUCCI: ~rny can this man repeatedly ~gnore all these
signs a~d all of thes~ people here who don~t want the horses on their
land? How come he can do it? This man has 30 horses and they get
loose. They go on Peconic I~ne. He was told by this Board that he
sheutd have written permission from the people if he wants to ride
on their land.
THE CHAIRMAn: You are all landowners in the vicinity. Has
anyone in this room given him permission?
I~R. JOHN B. SEPENOBKI, JR.: No.
TEE CHAIRNAN: What was the date of this occurrence, December
4th, the Smithtown Hunt Club?
MR. PETRUCCI: They did it once before.
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MR. C~J~?~EWS (~r.): I saw tracks on my land. I told his
daughter that I donl~ want~them to be tracking up my~land.
After a rain it did quite a bit of damage. About two weeks
later this H~nt comes. They ran over my land with horses and
dogs. It seems like it was spite, like they were saying "I dontt
care for you~.
MR. STA~LE~ S~EPE~OSKI: i gave M~. Bittner, his wife and his
daughter, permission to ride across my property as a shortcut to
the barns instead of going the long way around. I was given
permission to use his beach.
2~R. PETRUCCI: These people are not polite. They don~t care
for anyone else._ i am a half mile from his place.
MR. JO~ B. SEPENOSKI, JR.: t have a letter here from my
father; and_ another letter here from Kenney~s Road: "I would l~ke
to know that my children would not be outside on that day when they
have a Hunt". -
THE CHA~AIg: (Reading from letter signed by Mr. John B.
Sepenoski) "t have never given permission and never will".
This was a fox hunt. Mr. Richard Grigonis also sent a letter.
(The Chairman read from letter of ~. Grigonis). ~S~veral weeks
ago my wife saw two beautiful horses. She and.my fou~ year old,
while hanging clothes, heard the sound of horses. She saw one of
the same two riders. He galloped by and said he could find no
sign. Several days later t heard about the fox hun~s". We also
have a statement from F~. Petrucci and from 2~s. John.B. Sepenoski.
MR. JOHN B. SEPE~OSEX, JR.: I submit the following statemen~
prepared by myself...Z said I do not want horses on this land.
T~n~ee times Z warned them to.leave. I had answers like "Dogs
cantt read.., call the police.., are you the owner?.., everyone
else likes us". I do not know one landowner who hms given per-
mission.
THE CHAIRf~L~: The same thing mast have happened a couple of
hundred years ago.
MRS. PETRUCCI: Because it happened a couple of hundred years
ago doesn,t make it right.
THE CHA~: I remember about some Hunt Club on the North
Shore. that~ had rights to hunt in perpetuity. · recall that I~.
Bittner was supposed te have written permission. This was the
action of the Board on June 8, 1970: "After investigation and
t~spection the Board finds that applicant~ requests permission to
establish and maintain a riding academy, etc. There is an ample
area t~ take ~care of parking facilities. The Board finds that it
is ~in the public interest. Therefore, it was RESOLV~D~that
Theodore Bittner be GRANTED permission on property~ located south
side, etc., subject te the~follewing condi~ions:
1. There shall be a sign 2 ft. x 3 ft. at each highway. It
shall be 4 ft. above ground level.
There shall be one on-premises sign which shall be located
~ feet from the property li~e.
0ffstreet parking.
All riding instructors and trail riding shall be on the
property of the owner or on ether premises with the con-
sent of the owners. No riding on highways. Boarding Shall
be approved by the Board of Appeals. Outside storage.
THE C~IR]~D~N: It looks to ms astir all riding instructions
or trail ridingshallbe on the property of the owners. Consent
has been violated.
M~. SEPENOSEX: It is the fox hounds. I~ someone stands in
front of a house, ~the horses come on the front lawns.
MR. CHAR~S: They come through my property.
MR. STA~ S~EPEN0SKI: They come theough with a couple of
horses. I own a farm there. They have their o~n property but
there is a short cut so they would go across mine.
MR. NEI~ON ~~: i live two miles from the academy. I
think my land is as close as any land that I know of. My land is
posted as well as any. These horses really started to chid up 'my
road. I never gave permission to use my land. There were about
30 horses and hounds. F~y wife said if she were out~ide she would
have been scared stiff. My property is two miles to the west on
the EO~Lud, about"12 acres. Tou should see what horses can do to
a private roadway. There is no open land where ~ am. If you go,
you go on roadways. . They come right down 2nd Avenue, right by
the jetty. They leave it all chopped up.
]~R. C~S: Even before this, they were riding on land
without asking permission.
NRS. PETRUCCI: it has been going en since they opened up
there.
~. PETRUCCI: When you ask them to keep away From your land,
they say you don!t understand horses.
NRS. PETR~CCI: That's the kind of answers you get. They say
the whole community should be delighted to see the redcoats. Tes,
I like to see them in pier,yes.
~'. SMEPENOSKI, ~.: They chop up anything in the way. I
have strawberries~and cabbages.
THE CHAIRM~N: How many people have had crop damage?
MR. S~pENOBKI, JR.: ~e cover some crops. Some people save
the seed, but that is not it. I do have some c~ops.
THE CHAIRNAN:
MRS. PETRUCC I:
It might look like weeds.
They violated What the Board said should be
done. They should have written permission.
MR. S~PE~OSKI, JR.: He said my father had given permission.
Once they~get on your property you cantt get them elf. 2~r. Glenn
Booth said he would have him arrested.
MR. CHARNEl: Suppose a horse gets hurt on my property, he
would sue me.
MR. STAi~LtEY ~PENOSKI: They start their hunts on Town peeperty.
They could sue the Town~.. _i~ybe the Town gave permission. The last
time they went through Charnews~ property and then through Town
property.
MRS. PETE~CCI: These are people who are coming From the west;
not our own town people.
l~R. HUI~: It's called Smithtown Hunt Club but they come from
all over.
MR. Me~: You have heard about population explosion; this
is horse population explosion.
~MRS. SEPENOSKi: ~His year they had three hunts.
MR. PETRUCCI: I went 'to the Poli6e Station in Peconlc on
that day. They said they knew all about it besause ~hey had had
Fifteen calls. The records are at the station.
MR. STAN~,~ SEPENOSKI: ~y wife called.
MR. ~: Did they Send a man down?
MR. PETRUCCI: No.
~. SEPENOSKI: Th~o years ago two' friends of mine used to fox
hunt, no g~s,~and in.ten minutes two police cars chased them.
I~RS. PETRUCCi: That's what i dealt understand. This man has
been doing this For two years. He violates all the rules, instead
of one hunt, it*s three.
ME. ' BTA~T~.Y SEPENOSKi:
not mind. -
If somebody came with two dogs, ~ would
THE. CHAIRNAN: ~e don~t have any information. ~TEHear and make
decisions. I think we should take this up with the TOWn Attorney
and find out.what is the maxim~ we can do, and do it. i$ may be
that he Will recommend that we withdraw permission. Thank you for
coming in.
On motion by l~i~. Grigonis, seconded by ~. Bergen, it was
REsoLvED that the next meeting ~f the S0Uthold Town :Beard
of Appeals be held at 7:30 P.M., Thmrsday, January 14, 197~, at
the~Town Office, Main Road, S~uthold, New York.
Veto' of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen, Grigonis,
HulSe.
On motion by rm. Bergeh, seconded by Hr. Gillispie, it was
RESOLVED that the Minutes of the Semibold Town Board of
Appeals dated December 3rd, 1970, be approved as smbmitted,
subject to minor correction as noted.
Vote of the Beard: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen, Grigonis,
Hulse.
~ignRenewal (~acNtsh) was approved as submitted.
On motion by 1.~. Gillespie, seconded by ~. Bergen, it was
RF~0LVED that Action be confirmed on Appeal No. 1385, Leo
Sternlich~, Jr., Route %~, Riverhead, New York, for permission
to use p~emises for new and used car lot. Location o~ premises:
north side of ~ain Road (Route 2%), Greenport, New York.
Also, that action be confirmed on Appeal No. 1387, Smith-
town's Hi,Bigns, Inc., 564 Jericho Turnpike, Smithtown, New York,
for permission to.erect on Dremises~ground sign with excessive
height. Location of property: south side of Nain Road, Green-
port, New_York$ subject to the following cond~t~ nsc
Also, that action be con£irmed en Appeal No. 1388, Smith-
town's Hi-~igns, Inc., %6~ Jericho Turnpike, ~mithtown, New
York, for permission to erect on premises gro~und sign with
excessiVe height. Lecati0n of property: north side of Hain
Road, Greenport, New York; subject to the conditionsas fellows:
1. That the signs shall be no closer than 16 feet from
grade, and no closer than 5 feet to any property line.
2. The top of the signs te be no higher than 21
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Hessrs: Gillispie, Bergen, Grigonis,
Eu!se.
On motion by Fro. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Hulse, it was
RE~OL~ that~ the Southold Tow~ Board of Appeals set 7:30
P.H. (E.S.T.) Thursday, January 14, 1971, at-th~ Town office,
Hain Road, Southold, New oYork, as the time and place of hearing
upon applicatlon of Dri-Gen Realty Corp., North 0akwood Road,
~aurel, New York, for a variance in accordance with the Zeroing
Ordinance, Article X~ Section 1008 (last paragraph~, for
permission to use subdivision for multiple r~sidence dwellings
with increased density. Location ef property:~ (Map e£ Green-
port Homes) south side off. Hain Road, Greenport, New York,
bounded north by ~Iain Road,~ east by Ninth Street, south by r.. i.
Railroad, west by A. Cassidy.
Vote of the Beard: Eessrs: Gilltspie, Bergen, Grigenis,
Hulse.
On motion by N~. Hulse, seconded by ~. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Beard o2 Appeals set 7:40
P.M. (E.~.T..) Thursday, January 14, 1971,~ at the Town office,
Nain Road, Southold, NeW.york, as the time and place of hearing
upon applicatie~ ef Gerassimes & Machi Totolos, ~ew Suffolk
Avenu~ ~ Deep Hole Drive East, Mattituck, New York, for a
variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article III,
Section 307, for permission to 6enstruct addition to existing
selling with ins~ficient ~sideyard a~ea. Loc~tion of property:
New Suffolk AVenu~ & M/S Deep Hole Drive East. Lot ~ 47,
Deep Hole Creek Estates, !~lattituck. New York.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen, Grigonis,
Hulse.
On motion by ~i~. Bergen, seconded by M~. Hulse, it was
RE~LVED that the Sou~thold Town Board of .A~peals se~ 7~0
P.M. (E~S,T.) Thursday, ~January 14, 1971, at the Town 0ffice,~
~lain Road,~ SOu~hold, Eew~York, as the time and place of hearing
upon application of Dominick Zito d/b/a The Senthold I~n, Inc.,
~tain Road, Southold, New York~ for a special exception in
accordance With the Zoning 0rdi~ancem Article iV, Section 408,
SubseCtion (a), for Dermission to enlarge existing ground sign
with additional height. Location Of property: 'north side of
Main Read, Southold, New York, bounded north by L. Barnett, east
by D~ Barnett, south by 2~ain Road, west by F. w.~Thompson.
Vote ef the Board: Ayes:- Nessrs: Gil!ispie, Bergen, Grigonis,
Hulse.
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0n motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by ~. Bergen,
it was
'RESOLVED that the'~Southold Town Board of Appeals set 8:00
P. E. (E'.E.T,), Thursday, January 14, 1971, at the Town Office,
Eain Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place Of hearing
upon application of: Pursuant to Section 26?, SubdiVision 6 of
the Town Law of t~ State of New ~erk on the Board's motion, a
re-hearing on Appeal No. ll02; upon application of Theodore 0.
Bittner, 'SoUndview Avenue, SoUthold, New York, for a special
exception in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article I~I,
Section 300, Subsection 5 (d), £er permission to operate and.~
maintain stables and a riding academy. Location e£ property:
s~uth side o£ SeundvieW Avenue, Southold, New York, bounded north
by Soundview Avenue, east by Zeb~oski-Booth, south by North Road,
West by Sepenoski-Bittner.
Vote ef the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen, Grigenis,
Hulse.
The Eeet~ng was adjourned at 9:30
Re spectfully submitted,
I~ar~orie McDermott, Secretary
Seuthold Town Board o~ Appeal~s