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SEQRA determination
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Bond estimate submitted
Bond adopted by PB
Bond adopted by TB
Payment of bond
Payment of inspection fee
Determination of park&playground fee
Park&playground fee adopted by TB
Payment of park &playground fee
Open Space documents
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Receipt of mylars and paper prints with ,It
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Health approval
Final Public Hearing
Approval of subdivision
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Suffolk County Recording & Endorsement Page
This page forms part of the attached DEED made by:
(Deed, Mortgage, etc.)
ALBERT STEPNOSKI,DORIS A. CYBULSKI, The pretnises herein is situated in
SUFFOLK COUNTY, NEW:YORK. i
SOPHIE RYBA & GENEVIEVE SMITH
TO In the TOWN of SOUTHOLD
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On the'7T ` day of April, 1994, before me On the day of 17 , before me
perianally came ALBERT S'lTPNOSKI, DORIS A :Personally came
CYBULSKI, SOPHIERYBA and GENEVIEVE
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' executed the foregoing instrument, and acknowledged.that exeeuled the foregoing instrument, and acknowledged that
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roads abutting the above described premises to the center lines thereof.
TOGETHER with the appurtenances and all the estate and rights of the party of the first part in an,
anted unto the party of the second part, the heirs m
TO HAVE AND TO HOLD the premises herein gr
successors and assigns of the party of the second part forever.
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.�1. AND the party of the first part covenants that the party of the first part has notdone or suffered anything
whereby the said premises have been incumbered in any way whatever, except as aforesaid..' -
AND the party of the first part, in compliance with Section 13 of the Lien Law,covenants that the party of
d will hold the right to receive such consid-
the first pad-will receive the consideration for this conveyance an
eration as a trust fund to be applied firstfor the purpose of paymg the cost of the improvement and will apply
of the improvement before using any pan of the total of the same fur
the same first to the payment of the cost
- any other purpose.
... ..j The word"party'shall be construed as if it read"parties" whenever the sense of this indenture so requires.
1N VA TNFSS WHEREOF,the party of the first part has duly executed this deed the day and year first about
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/ Form 8007 2-85-5M —Bargeiv a4ie Deed with Covenant sgsinet Cantor's Act—Ind.or�.
CONSULT YOUR LAWYER BEFORE SIGHING THIS INSTRUMENT—THIS INSTRUMENT SHOULD BE USED BY LAWYERS ONLY.
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md4 THIS INDENTURE, made the ,�/Od/.y of April, nineteen hundred and Ninety—four,
,onwealt BETWEEN ALBERT STEPNOSKI, residing at 391 Reeves Avenue , Riverhead,
d Title New York 11901;
As . Co . DORIS A. CYBULSKI, residing at (no number) Lilac Lane,
Cutchogue , New York 11935;
SOPHIE RYBA, residing at 945 Gin Lane , Southold, New York
;11 Shore
:Abstract 11971; and .
Ltd. GENEVIEVE SMITH, residing at 17 Washington Avenue, Greenport,
#ASA-878,23 NewYork 11944,
party of the first part, and BAYVIEW SOUTH HARBOR PARTNERSHIP, a partnership
organized and existing under and by the viture of the laws of the
State of New York, having its principal office and .-place of business
at 1450 South Harbor Road,Southold, New York 11971,
party of the second part, - - - - - - '-
V#MFSSEI'H, that the party of the first part, in consideration of - - - - -
- - - - - TEN AND 00/100 ($10. 00) - - - - - - - - - - - - dollars,.
lawful money of the United States, and other good and valuable consideration paid
' by the party of the second part, does hereby grant and release unto the party of the second part, the heirs or
successors and assigns of the party of the second part forever,
ALJ. that certain plot, pir-c or parcel of land, with the buildings and improvements thereon erected, situate,
in the Town of Southold, County of Suffolk and State of New
tying arul befog
York, bou�dtad and described aa- follows :
' t North by land now or formerly of Bnonaiuto and land now or form-
' erly of "P4ap 'of South Harbor Homes", Map #4096;
1000 Last, by Plain Bayview Road and other land now or. formerly of
George SCcpnoslci.;
South by 7-and now or formerly .of Southold Fire District;
` 1 tae t by South Harbor Road, Said premises being more particularly
w_.. .... bounded and described as follows :
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BIGINUING at a point on the westerly side of Main Bayview Road
075. 00:
at a Point narlred by the northerly line of land of Southold Fire
s --; District;
RUNNING THEINCE along said northerly line of said land of Southold
Fire District, South 73 degrees 8 minutes 20 seconds West. 5.00.81 feet;
RUNPl1N!:. 'P1U.TiCE North 8 de;;rees 20 minutes 40 seconds West 50. 0
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l RUNNING T-IL:NCE South 72 tlegi-ees '32 minutes 50 seconds West, 200. 0
LOT feet to the easterly sid • of South Harbor 'Lane ;
i.UN%?ING TMEliCE along the easterly side of South Harbor Lane North
8do ec 2O tn .t,utes 40 seccnds West 815. 28 feet .to land now or
022 . OQQ4 form t 1 i r 0c on;
t L1PI1:.1 a i'i, Ti ti North 79 dclrees 18 minutes 00 seconds East 963 . 02
feet ,
ld ;` 'j':IENCZ North 79 degrees 39 minutes OO seconds East 252 . 22
fees ':o th ^tz c1y site of Ptain Bayview Road;
i;UNPfIii.. 111',1?'a South 20 degrees 45 minutes West• 302 . 0 feet;
I.UL1;lit; iI ;NCE SouLli 84 degrees 45 minutes West 173.0 feet;
i>,(i�ivl u ' 1 1;C?!: South 2 degrees 27 minutes .West 85. 0 feet;
North 88 degrees 26 minutes East 129-. 0 feet;
RUNNING 'CL't%P'CE South 26 -degrees 31 minutes west 132 . 91 feet;
x;uPdN� ":I 'li11-' !CF, South 2.5 degrees 50 minutes 20 seconds West
422 .31, feet Lo the point or place of Beginning.
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Appendix A
State Environmental Quality Review
FULL ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM
Purpose: The full EAF is designed to help applicants and agencies determine, in an orderly manner, whether a project
or action may be significant. The question of whether an action may be significant is not always easy to answer. Frequent-
ly, there are aspects of a project that are subjective or unmeasureable. It is also understood that those who determine
significance may have little or no formal knowledge of the environment or may be technically expert in environmental
analysis. In addition, many who have knowledge in one particular area may not be aware of the broader concerns affecting
the question of significance.
The full EAF is intended to provide a method whereby applicants and agencies can be assured that the determination
process has been orderly, comprehensive in nature, yet flexible to allow introduction of information to fit a project or action.
Full EAF Components: The full EAF is comprised of three parts:
Part 1: Provides objective data and information about a given project and its site. By identifying basic project
data, it assists a reviewer in the analysis that takes place in Parts 2 and 3.
Part 2: focuses on identifying the range of possible impacts that may occur from a project or action. It provides
guidance as to whether an impact is likely to be considered small to moderate or whether it is a potentially-
large impact. The form also identifies whether an impact can be mitigated or reduced.
Part 3: If any impact in Part 2 is identified as potentially-large, then Part 3 is used to evaluate whether or not the
impact is actually important.
DETERMINATION OF SIGNIFICANCE—Type 1 and Unlisted Actions
Identify the Portions of EAF completed for this project: ❑ Part 1 ❑ Part 2 ❑Part 3
Upon review of the information recorded on this EAF (Parts 1 and 2 and 3 if appropriate), and any other supporting
information, and considering both the magitude and importance of each impact, it is reasonably determined by the
lead agency that:
❑ A. The project will not result in any large and important impact(s) and, therefore, is one which will not
have a significant impact on the environment, therefore a negative declaration will be prepared.
❑ B. Although the project could have a significant effect on the environment, there will not be a significant
effect for this Unlisted Action because the mitigation measures described in PART 3 have been required,
therefore a CONDITIONED negative declaration will be prepared.
❑ C. The project may result in one or more large and important impacts that may have a significant impact
on the environment, therefore a positive declaration will be prepared.
' A Conditioned Negative Declaration is only valid for Unlisted Actions
Name of Action
Name of Lead Agency
Print or Type Name of Responsible Officer in Lead Agency Title of Responsible Officer
Signature of Responsible Officer in Lead Agency Signature of Preparer(If different from responsible officer)
Date
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PART 1—PROJECT INFORMATION
Prepared by Project Sponsor
NOTICE: This document is designed to assist in determining whether the action proposed may have a significant effect
on the environment. Please complete the entire form, Parts A through E. Answers to these questions will be considered
as part of the application for approval and may be subject to further verification and public review. Provide any additional
information you believe will be needed to complete Parts 2 and 3.
It is expected that completion of the full FAF will be dependent on information currently available and will not involve
new studies, research or investigation. If information requiring such additional work is unavailable, so indicate and specify
each instance.
NAME OF ACTION
D.B.M. Company (Realty Subdivision — 9 Lots)
LOCATION OF ACTION(Include Street Address, Municipality and County)
South Harbor Road, at Southold, Suffolk County, New York
NAME OF SPONSOR BUSINESS TELEPHONE
Young & Young 1 516) 727-2303
ADDRESS
400 Ostrander Avenue
CITYIPO STATE ZIP CODE
Riverhead NY 1 11901
NAME OF OWNER(If dlllerent) BUSINESS TELEPHONE
D.B.M. Company 1 516) 477-2223
ADDRESS
443 Main Street, P.O. Box 2130
CITYIPO STATE ZIP CODE
Greenport, NY 11944
DESCRIPTION OF ACTION
Realty Subdivision — 9 Lots
Please Complete Each Question—Indicate N.A. if not applicable
A. Site Description
Physical setting of overall project, both developed and undeveloped areas.
1. Present land use: ❑Urban ❑Industrial ❑Commercial ❑Residential (suburban) INRural(non-farm)
❑Forest ❑Agriculture. ❑Other
2. Total acreage of project area: 17.5473 acres.
APPROXIMATE ACREAGE PRESENTLY AFTER COMPLETION
Meadow or Brushland (Non-agricultural) 17.4 acres 17.4 acres
Forested 0 acres 0 acres
Agricultural (Includes orchards, cropland, pasture, etc.) 0 acres 0 acres
Wetland (Freshwater or tidal as per Articles 24, 25 of ECL) 0 acres 0 acres
Water Surface Area 0 acres 0 acres
Unvegetated (Rock, earth or fill) 0 acres 0 acres
Roads, buildings and other paved surfaces 0.1 acres 0.1 acres
Other (Indicate type) 0 acres 0
acres
3. What is predominant soil type(s) on project site? Haven loam (HaA), Riverhead sandy loam (RdB)
a. Soil drainage: [Dell drained 100 % of site ❑Moderately well drained % of site
❑Poorly drained % of site
b. If any agricultural land is involved, how many acres of soil are classified within soil group 1 through 4 of the NYS
Land Classification System? NZA_ acres. (See 1 NYCRR 370).
4. Are there bedrock outcroppings on project site? Dyes ONO
a. What is depth to bedrock? NSA (in feet)
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5. Approximate percentage of proposed project site with slopes: 00-10% --1-00#%
010-15% %
Ell 5% or greater %
6. Is' project substantially contiguous to, or contain a building, site, or district, listed on the State or the National
Registers of Historic Places? Dyes LSNo
7. Is project substantially contiguous to a site listed on the Register of National Natural Landmarks? Dyes 29N0
8. What is the depth of the water table? 15' (in feet)
9. Is site located over a primary, principal, or sole source aquifer? K]Yes ❑No
10. Do hunting, fishing or shell fishing opportunities presently exist in the project area? Dyes ®No
11. Does project site contain any species of plant or animal life that is identified as threatened or endangered?
Dyes K)No According to Young & Young
Identify each species
12. Are there any unique or unusual land forms on the project site? (i.e., cliffs, dunes, other geological formations)
Dyes FZNo Describe
13. Is the project site presently used by the community or neighborhood as an open space or recreation area?
Dyes WNo If yes, explain
14. Does the present site include scenic views known to be important to the community?
Dyes INNo
15. Streams within or contiguous to project area: N/A
a. Name of Stream and name of River to which it is tributary
16. Lakes, ponds, wetland areas within or contiguous to project area: N/A
a. Name b. Size (In acres)
17. Is the site served by existing public utilities? ®Yes ❑No
a) If Yes, does sufficient capacity exist to allow connection? nYes ❑No
b) If Yes, will improvements be necessary to allow connection? K]Yes ❑No
18. Is the site located in an agricultural district certified pursuant to Agriculture and Markets Law, Article 25-AA,
Section 303 and 304? Dyes ANo
19. Is the site located in or substantially contiguous to a Critical Environmental Area designated pursuant to Article 8
of the ECL, and 6 NYCRR 617? Dyes ®IVo
20. Has the site ever been used for the disposal of solid or hazardous wastes? Dyes ®No
B. Project Description
1. Physical dimensions and scale of project (fill in dimensions as appropriate)
a. Total contiguous acreage owned or controlled by project sponsor 17.5 acres.
b. Project acreage to be developed: 17.5 acres initially; 17.5 acres ultimately.
c. Project acreage to remain undeveloped 0 acres.
d. Length of project, in miles: N/A (If appropriate)
e. If the project is an expansion, indicate percent of expansion proposed N/A %;
I. Number of off-street parking spaces existing N/A proposed N/A
g. Maximum vehicular trips generated per hour N/A (upon completion of project)?
h. If residential: Number and type of housing units: N/A
One Family Two Family Multiple Family Condominium
Initially
Ultimately
i. Dimensions (in feet) of largest proposed structure height; width; length. N/A
j. Linear feet of frontage along a public thoroughfare project will occupy is? 815 ft.
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2. How much natural material (i.e., rock, earth, etc.) will be removed from the site? 0 tons/cubic yards
3. Will disturbed areas be reclaimed? ❑Yes ❑No ®N/A
a. If yes, for what intended purpose is the site being reclaimed?
b. Will topsoil be stockpiled for reclamation? ❑Yes ❑No
c. Will upper subsoil be stockpiled for reclamation? ❑Yes ❑No
4. How many acres of vegetation (trees, shrubs, ground covers) will be removed from site? 0 acres.
5. Will any mature forest (over 100 years old) or other locally-important vegetation be removed by this project?
❑Yes INNo
6. If single phase project: Anticipated period of construction months, (including demolition)• N/A
7. If multi-phased: N/A
a. Total number of phases anticipated (number).
b. Anticipated date of commencement phase 1 month year, (including demolition).
c. Approximate completion date of final phase month year.
d. Is phase 1 functionally dependent on subsequent phases? ❑yes ❑No
8. Will blasting occur during construction? Oyes ENNo
9. Number of jobs generated: during construction N/A after project is complete N/A
10. Number of jobs eliminated by this project 0
11. Will project require relocation of any projects or facilities? ❑Yes IANo If yes, explain
12. Is surface liquid waste disposal involved? ❑Yes ®No
a. If yes, indicate type of waste (sewage, industrial, etc.) and amount
b. Name of water body into which effluent will be discharged
13. Is subsurface liquid waste disposal involved? ❑Yes ZINo Type
14. Will surface area of an existing water body increase or decrease by proposal? Oyes nNo
Explain
15. Is project or any portion of project located in a 100 year flood plain? ❑Yes KING
16. Will the project generate solid waste? ❑Yes ®No
a. If yes, what is the amount per month i tons
b. If yes, will an existing solid waste facility be used? ❑Yes DNo
c. If yes, give name ; location
d. Will any wastes not go into a sewage disposal system or into a sanitary landfill? ❑Yes ❑No
e. If Yes, explain
17. Will the project involve the disposal of solid waste? ❑Yes ®No
a. If yes, what is the anticipated rate of disposal? tons/month.
b. If yes, what is the anticipated site life? years.
18. Will project use herbicides or pesticides? ❑Yes MNo
19. Will project routinely produce odors (more than one hour per day)? ❑Yes ®No
20. Will project produce operating noise exceeding the local ambient noise levels? ❑Yes ®No
21. Will project result in an increase in energy use? ❑Yes fXlNo
If yes , indicate type(s)
22. If water supply is from wells, indicate pumping capacity N/A gallonslminute.
23. Total anticipated water usage per day N/A gallons/day.
24. Does project involve Local, State or federal funding? ❑Yes KINo
If Yes, explain
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25. Approvals Required: • • Submittal
Type Date
City, Town, Village Board Dyes IBNo
MW Town, 11t % Planning Board ®Yes ❑No Subdivision Map
City, Town Zoning Board Dyes MNo
OW County Health Department ®Yes ❑No Water Supply & Sanitary
Other Local Agencies Dyes ®No
Other Regional Agencies Dyes INNo
State Agencies Dyes ®No
Federal Agencies Dyes (UNo
C. Zoning and Planning Information
1 . Does proposed action involve a planning or zoning decision? ®Yes ❑No
If Yes, indicate decision required:
❑zoning amendment ❑zoning variance ❑special use permit $)subdivision ❑site plan
❑newfrevision of master plan ❑resource management plan ❑other
2 What is the zoning class ification(s)of the site? Residential R-80
3. What is the maximum potential development of the site if developed as permitted by the present zoning?
9 Lots
4. What is the proposed zoning of the site? Residential R-80 (No Change)
S. What is the maximum potential development of the site if developed as permitted by the proposed zoning?
9 Lots
6. Is the proposed action consistent with the recommended uses in adopted local land use plans? ®Yes ❑No
7. What are the predominant land use(s) and zoning classifications within a '/4 mile radius of proposed action?
Land Uses — Single Family Residences & Farmland; Zoning — Agricultural Conservation A—C,
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8. Is the proposed action compatible with adjoining/surrounding land uses within a '/, mile? ®Yes ❑No
9. If the proposed action is the subdivision of land, how many lots are proposed? 9 Lots (Cluster)
a. What is the minimum lot size proposed? 30,000 Square Feet
10. Will proposed action require any authorization(s) for the formation of sewer or water districts? Dyes l7SNo
11 . Will the proposed action create a demand for any community provided services (recreation, education, police,
fi,e protectic-t)? Dyes RlNo
a. If yes, is existing capacity sufficient to handle projected demand? Dyes ❑No
12. Will the proposed action result in the generation of traffic significantly above present levels? Dyes $]No
a. If yes, is the existing road network adequate to handle the additional traffic? Dyes ❑No
D. Informational Details
Attach any additional information as may be needed to clarify your project. If there are or may be any adverse
impacts associated with your proposal, please discuss such impacts and the measures which you propose to mitigate or
avoid them.
E. Verification
I certify that the information provided above is true to the best of my knowledge.
A"XX ttISpons r�Youu/ng &wYoun- ng ATT: Thomas C. Wolpert, P.E. Date May 12, 1993
Signature � Title Professional Engineer
If the action is in the Coastal Area, and you are a state agency, complete the Coastal Assessment Form before proceeding
with this assessment.
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Part 2—PRCISCT IMPACTS AND THEIR MA&UDE
Responsibility of Lead Agency
General Information (Read Carefully)
• In completing the form the reviewer should be guided by the question: Have my responses and determinations been
reasonable? The reviewer is not expected to be an expert environmental analyst.
• Identifying that an impact will be potentially large (column 2) does not mean that it is also necessarily significant.
Any large impact must be evaluated in PART 3 to determine significance. Identifying an impact in column 2 simply
asks that it be looked at further.
• The Examples provided are to assist the reviewer by showing types of impacts and wherever possible the threshold of
magnitude that would trigger a response in column 2. The examples are generally applicable throughout the State and
for most situations. Out, for any specific project or site other examples and/or lower thresholds may be appropriate
for a Potential Large Impact response, thus requiring evaluation in Part 3.
• The impacts of each project, on each site, in each locality, will vary. Therefore, the examples are illustrative and
have been offered as guidance. They do not constitute an exhaustive list of impacts and thresholds to answer each question.
• The number of examples per question does not indicate the importance of each question.
• In identifying impacts, consider long term, short term and cumlative effects.
Instructions (Read carefully)
a. Answer each of the 19 questions in PART 2. Answer Yes if there will be any impact.
b. Maybe answers should be considered as Yes answers.
c. If answering Yes to a question then check the appropriate box (column 1 or 2) to indicate the potential size of the
impact. If impact threshold equals or exceeds any example provided, check column 2. If impact will occur but threshold
is lower than example, check column 1.
d. If reviewer has doubt about size of the impact then consider the impact as potentially large and proceed to PART 3.
e. If a potentially large impact checked in column 2 can be mitigated by change(s) in the project to a small to moderate
impact, also check the Yes box in column 3. A No response indicates that such a reduction is not possible. This
must be explained in Part 3.
1 2 3
Small to Potential Can Impact Be
IMPACT ON LAND Moderate Large Mitigated By
Impact Impact Project Change
1 . Will the proposed action result in a physical change to the project site?
ONO DYES
Examples that would apply to column 2
• Any construction on slopes of 15% or greater, (15 foot rise per 100 ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
foot of length), or where the general slopes in the project area exceed
10`Y•.
• Construction on land where the depth to the water table is less than ❑ ❑ Dyes ❑No
3 feet.
• Construction of paved parking area for 1,000 or more vehicles. ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
• Construction on land where bedrock is exposed or generally within ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
3 feet of existing ground surface. '
• Construction that will continue for more than 1 year or involve more ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
than one phase or stage.
• Excavation for mining purposes that would remove more than 1,000 0 ❑ El Yes ❑No
tons of natural material (i.e., rock or soil) per year.
• Construction or expansion of a sanitary landfill. ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
• Construction in a designated floodway. ❑ ❑ El Yes ❑No
• Other impacts ❑ ❑ 1:1 Yes ❑No
2. Will there be an effect to any unique or unusual land forms found on
the site?(i.e., cliffs, dunes, geological formations, etc.)❑NO DYES
• Specific land forms: ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
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1 2 3
IMPACT ON WATER Small to Potential Can Impact Be
Moderate Large Mitigated By
3. Will proposed action affect any water body designated as protected? Impact Impact Project Change
(Under Articles 15, 24, 25 of the Environmental Conservation Law, ECL)
❑NO ❑YES
Examples that would apply to column 2
• Developable area of site contains a protected water body. ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
• Dredging more than 100 cubic yards of material from channel of a ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
protected stream.
• Extension of utility distribution facilities through a protected water body. ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
• Construction in a designated freshwater or tidal wetland. ❑ ❑ El Yes ❑No
• Other impacts: ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
4. Will proposed action affect any non-protected existing or new body
of water? ❑NO ❑YES
Examples that would apply to column 2
• A 10% increase or decrease in the surface area of any body of water ❑ ❑ El Yes ❑No
or more than a 10 acre increase or decrease.
• Construction of a body of water that exceeds 10 acres of surface area. ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
• Other impacts: ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
5. Will Proposed Action affect surface or groundwater
quality or quantity? ❑NO ❑YES
Examples that would apply to column 2
• Proposed Action will require a discharge permit. ❑ ❑ C1 Yes ❑No
• Proposed Action requires use of a source of water that does not ❑ ❑ El Yes ❑No
have approval to serve proposed (project) action.
• Proposed Action requires water supply from wells with greater than 45 ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
gallons per minute pumping capacity.
• Construction or operation causing any contamination of a water ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
supply system.
• Proposed Action will adversely affect groundwater. ❑ ❑ ❑Yes El No
• Liquid effluent will be conveyed off the site to facilities which presently ❑ ❑ El Yes ❑No
do not exist or have inadequate capacity.
• Proposed Action would use water in excess of 20,000 gallons per ❑ ❑ El Yes ❑No
day.
• Proposed Action will likely cause siltation or other discharge into an ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
existing body of water to the extent that there will be an obvious visual
contrast to natural conditions.
• Proposed Action will require the storage of petroleum or chemical ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
products greater than 1,100 gallons.
• Proposed Action will allow residential uses in areas without water ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
and/or sewer services.
• Proposed Action locates commercial and/or industrial uses which may ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
require new or expansion of existing waste treatment and/or storage
facilities.
• Other impacts: ❑ ❑ El Yes ❑No
6. Will proposed action alter drainage flow or patterns, or surface
water runoff? ❑NO ❑YES
Examples that would apply to column 2
• Proposed Action would change flood water flows. ❑ 1 ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
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1 2 3
Small to Potential Can Impact Be
Moderate Large Mitigated By
Impact Impact Project Change
• Proposed Action may cause substantial erosion. ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
• Proposed Action is incompatible with existing drainage patterns. ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
• Proposed Action will allow development in a designated floodway. ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
• Other impacts: ❑ ❑ ❑yes ❑No
IMPACT ON AIR
7. Will proposed action affect air quality? ❑NO ❑YES
Examples that would apply to column 2
• Proposed Action will induce 1,000 or more vehicle trips in any given ❑ ❑ 1-1 Yes ❑No
hour.
• Proposed Action will result in the incineration of more than 1 ton of ❑ ❑ ❑yes ❑No
refuse per hour.
• Emission rate of total contaminants will exceed 5 lbs. per hour or a ❑ ❑ El Yes ❑No
heat source producing more than 10 million BTU's per hour.
• Proposed action will allow an increase in the amount of land committed ❑ ❑ 11 Yes ❑No
to industrial use.
• Proposed action will allow an increase in the density of industrial ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
development within existing industrial areas.
a Other impacts: ❑ ❑ El Yes ❑No
IMPACT ON PLANTS AND ANIMALS
R. Will Proposed Action affect any threatened or endangered
species? ❑NO ❑YES
Examples that would apply to column 2
• Reduction of one or more species listed on the New York or Federal ❑ ❑ El Yes ❑No
list, using the site, over or near site or found on the site.
• Removal of any portion of a critical or significant wildlife habitat. ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
• Application of pesticide or herbicide more than twice a year, other ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
than for agricultural purposes.
• Other impacts: ❑ ❑ El Yes ❑No
9. Will Proposed Action substantially affect non-threatened or
non-endangered species? ❑NO ❑YES
Examples that would apply to column 2
• Proposed Action would substantially interfere with any resident or ❑ ❑ El Yes 1-1 No
migratory fish, shellfish or wildlife species.
• Proposed Action requires the removal of more than 10 acres ❑ ❑ F-1 Yes ❑No
of mature forest (over 100 years of age) or other locally important
vegetation.
IMPACT ON AGRICULTURAL LAND RESOURCES
10. Will the Proposed Action affect agricultural land resources?
❑NO ❑YES
Examples that would apply to column 2
• The proposed action would sever, cross or limit access to agricultural ❑ ❑ El Yes ❑No
land (includes cropland, hayfields, pasture, vineyard, orchard, etc.)
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1 2 3
Small to Potential Can Impact Be
Moderate Large Mitigated By
Impact Impact Project Change
• Construction activity would excavate or compact the soil profile of ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
agricultural land.
• The proposed action would irreversibly convert more than 10 acres ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
of agricultural land or, if located in an Agricultutal District, more
than 2.5 acres of agricultural land.
• The proposed action would disrupt or prevent installation of agricultural ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
land management systems (e.g., subsurface drain lines, outlet ditches,
strip cropping); or create a need for such measures (e.g. cause a farm
field to drain poorly due to increased runoff)
• Other impacts: ❑ ❑ El Yes ❑No
IMPACT ON AESTHETIC RESOURCES
11 . Will proposed action affect aesthetic resources? ❑NO ❑YES
(If necessary, use the Visual EAE Addendum in Section 617.21,
Appendix E.)
Examples that would apply to column 2
• Proposed land uses, or project components obviously different from ❑ ❑ ❑yes ❑No
or in sharp contrast to current surrounding land use patterns, whether
man-made or natural.
• Proposed land uses, or project components visible to users of ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
aesthetic resources which will eliminate or significantly reduce their
enjoyment of the aesthetic qualities of that resource.
• Project components that will result in the elimination or significant ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
screening of scenic views known to be important to the area.
• Other impacts: ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
IMPACT ON HISTORIC AND ARCHAEOLOGICAL RESOURCES
12. Will Proposed Action impact any site or structure of historic, pre-
historic or paleontological importance? ❑NO ❑YES
Examples that would apply to column 2
• Proposed Action occurring wholly or partially within or substantially ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
contiguous to any facility or site listed on the State or National Register
of historic places.
• Any impact to an archaeological site or fossil bed located within the ❑ ❑ C1 Yes ❑No
project site.
• Proposed Action will occur in an area designated as sensitive for ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
archaeological sites on the NYS Site Inventory.
• Other impacts: ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
IMPACT ON OPEN SPACE AND RECREATION
13. Will Proposed Action affect the quantity or quality of existing or
future open spaces or recreational opportunities?
Examples that would apply to column 2 ❑NO ❑YES
• The permanent foreclosure of a future recreational opportunity. ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
• A major reduction of an open space important to the community. ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
• Other impacts: ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
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1 2 3
IMPACT ON TRANSPORTATION Small to Potential Can Impact Be
14. Will there be an effect to existing transportation systems? Moderate Large Mitigated By
ONO DYES Impact Impact Project Change
Examples that would apply to column 2
• Alteration of present patterns of movement of people and/or goods. ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
• Proposed Action will result in major traffic problems. ❑ ❑ Dyes ❑No
• Other impacts: ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
IMPACT ON ENERGY
15. Will proposed action affect the community's sources of fuel or
energy supply? ONO DYES
Examples that would apply to column 2
• Proposed Action will cause a greater than 5% increase in tl:e use of ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
any form of energy in the municipality.
• Proposed Action will require the creation or extension of an energy ❑ ❑ El Yes ❑No
transmission or supply system to serve more than 50 single or two family
residences or to serve a major commercial or industrial use.
• Other impacts: ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
NOISE AND ODOR IMPACTS
16. Will there be objectionable odors, noise, or vibration as a result
of the Proposed Action? ONO DYES
Examples that would apply to column 2
• Blasting within 1,500 feet of a hospital, school or other sensitive ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
facility.
• Odors will occur routinely (more than one hour per day). ❑ ❑ El Yes ❑No
• Proposed Action will produce operating noise exceeding the local ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
ambient noise levels for noise outside of structures.
• Proposed Action will remove natural barriers that would act as a ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
noise screen.
• Other impacts: ❑ ❑ Dyes ❑No
IMPACT ON PUBLIC HEALTH
17. Will Proposed Action affect public health and safety?
ONO DYES
Examples that would apply to column 2
• Proposed Action may cause a risk of explosion or release of hazardous ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
substances(i.e. oil, pesticides, chemicals, radiation, etc.)in the event of
accident or upset conditions, or there may be a chronic low level
discharge or emission.
• Proposed Action may result in the burial of "hazardous wastes" in any ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
form (i.e. toxic, poisonous, highly reactive, radioactive, irritating,
infectious, etc.)
• Storage facilities for one million or more gallons of liquified natural ❑ ❑ El Yes ❑No
gas or other flammable liquids.
• Proposed action may result in the excavation or other disturbance ❑ ❑ []Yes El NO
within 2,000 feet of a site used for the disposal of solid or hazardous
waste.
• Other impacts: Cl ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
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IMPACT ON GROWTH AND CHARACTER 1 2 3
OF COMMUNITY OR NEIGHBORHOOD Small to Potential Can Impact
Moderate Large Mitigated By
18. Will proposed action affect the character of the existing community? Impact Impact Project Change
ONO DYES
Examples that would apply to column 2
• The permanent population of the city, town or village in which the ❑ ❑ El Yes ❑No
project is located is likely to grow by more than 5%.
• The municipal budget for capital expenditures or operating services ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
will increase by more than 5% per year as a result of this project.
• Proposed action will conflict with officially adopted plans or goals. ❑ ❑ 11 Yes ❑No
• Proposed action will cause a change in the density of land use. ❑ ❑ ❑Yes 13 No
• Proposed Action will replace or eliminate existing facilities, structures ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
or areas of historic importance to the community.
• Development will create a demand for additional community services ❑ ❑ El Yes ❑No
(e.g. schools, police and fire, etc.)
• Proposed Action will set an important precedent for future projects. ❑ ❑ El Yes ❑No
• Proposed Action will create or eliminate employment. ❑ ❑ []Yes []No
• Other impacts: ❑ ❑ ❑Yes ❑No
19. Is there, or is there likely to -be, public controversy related to
potential adverse environmental impacts? ONO DYES
If Any Action in Part 2 Is Identified as a Potential Large Impact or
If You Cannot Determine the Magnitude of Impact, Proceed to Part 3
Part 3—EVALUATION OF THE IMPORTANCE OF IMPACTS
Responsibility of Lead Agency
Part 3 must be prepared if one or more impact(s) is considered to be potentially large, even if the impact(s) may be
mitigated.
Instructions
Discuss the following for each impact identified in Column 2 of Part 2:
1 . Briefly describe the impact.
2. Describe(if applicable)how the impact could be mitigated or reduced to a small to moderate impact by project change(s).
3. Based on the information available, decide if it is reasonable to conclude that this impact is important.
To answer the question of importance, consider:
• The probability of the impact occurring
• The duration of the impact
• Its irreversibility, including permanently lost resources of value
• Whether the impact can or will be controlled
• The regional consequence of the impact
• Its potential divergence from local needs and goals
• Whether known objections to the project relate to this impact.
(Continue on attachments)
11
APPLICATION FOR APPROVAL OF PLAT
To the Planning Board of the Town of Southold:
The undersigned applicant hereby applies for (tentative) (final) approval of a subdivision plat in _
accordance with Article 16 of the Town Law and the Rules and Regulations of the Southold Town
Planning Board, and represents and states as follows:
1. The applicant is the owner of record of the land under application. (If the applicant is not the
owner of record of the land tinder application, the applicant shall state his interest in said
land under application.)
2. The name of the subdivision is to be . . . .. . . .. .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. .. . . . . . . . . . . . .. .. . .... .
H.ighpo.int at South Hanbon
. . . .. . . . . .. .. .... .. .. . . .. .. .. .. . .. .... .. ...... . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. .. .. . . . . .. .. .... . .. ... ... . . . . . .
3. The entire land under application is described in Schedule "A" hereto annexed. (Copy of deed
suggested.) to {oUoW
4. The land is held by the applicant under deeds recorded in Suffolk County Clerk's office as
follows:
Liber . ... . .. . . . . .. .. . . . . . . .. . Page On . . . .. .. . . . . . . .. .. .. . . . . ;
Liber . .. .... . . . . .. .. .. . ... ... Page On
i
Liber . .. .. .. .. .. . . . . .... . . .. . Page . .. .. . . .. . . .. .. .. . . .. . On . . . .. .. . . . . . . .. . .. . . . . . ;
Liber . .. .. .. .. .. .. ... . .. . . .. . Page On
Liber . ... . .. .. .. .. .. .. ....... Page . . . .. . . . . . . . . .. . . .. . . . On
as devised under the Last Will and Testament of . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . .. .. .. .. .. . . . . .. .. . . ....
oras distributee . .. . . .. .. .. .. .. . . .... .. .. . . .. . . . . .. .. .. .. . . . . . . .. . . .. .... ... . . ...... . .. .
. . . . . .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. . . .. .. .......... ... ........ . . . . . . . . . .. .. . . . . . . . . . . .. .. . . ........ .. .. . . . . . . .
5. The area of the land is .. .1.7•,5r
.. .. .. .. . acres
6. All taxes which are liens on the land at the date hereof have been paid except . .. .. . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . .. . . .. .... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . .. . . .. .. . . . . . .. .. .. .... . . . . .
7. The land is encumbered by . .. . n/a. .. .. .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . .. . . . . .. . . .. .. . .. . . .. .. . . . . . .
mortgage (s) as follows:
(a) Mortgage recorded in Liber . .. .. .. . . . . . . . Page . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . .. . in original amount
of $. . . . . .. .. . . .. . unpaid amount $ . .. .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . held by . . . .. . . . . .... . .. . . . . . .
... . . . . .. .... . address . .. .. ... . .. . . . .... . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . .. .. . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . .
(b) Mortgage recorded in Liber . . . . . .. .. Page . . . .. . . . . ..... . .. .. I . .. . in original amount
of unpaid amount $. . . . . . . .. . . .. .. . . .. . . . held by
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address �, .
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(c) Mortgage recorded in Liber . . . . . . . . . .. .. . Page . . . . . . . .. . . .. .. . in original amount
of . . . .. .. . . .. . . . unpaid amount $. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . held by . . . .. .. .. ...... . ..... .
..... .. . . . . .... . . .. . . . address . . . . . ... . . . . . . .. . . .. .. .. .. .. . . . . . . ..
8. There are no other encumbrances or liens against the land except . .... .. . . . . .. ..... . .... .
. .. . . . . . . . . .. .. . . . . .. .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ... . . . . . . . ..... .. . . . . .. . ... .. .. ..... ... ..... . . ... .
9. The land lies in the following zoning use districtsR-80
. . . . . . . . . .. .. .. .... .. . . .. . . . . . . .. ..... .
. .. .. .. . . .. . . . . .. .. . . .. . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . .. .. . . .. . . .. .. ...... . .. ...... . .
10. No part of the land lies under water whether tide water, stream, pond water or otherwise, ex-
cept . .. .. .. . . . . .. .. .. :. . . .. . ... .. ... . . .. . . .
11. The applicant shall at his expense install all required public improvements.
12. The land (does) (d4&XX&) lie in a Water District or Water Supply District. Name of Dis-
trict, if within a District, is . . . .. :. ... . . .. . . . . .. . . . . . . .. .. . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . .. .. . . . . . . . . . . . ! . .. . .
13. Water mains will be laid by . .. Ctn apphoved con.ViactO/C
. . . . . ... . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . .. . . .. . . . . . ... ... . . ... . . . . .. . .
and (a) (no) charge will be made for installing said mains.
14. Electric lines and standards will be installed by . ..L,'EICo. .. .. .... .. .. .. . . . . .. .. .... ... .. .
•• -- -- -- - - - - - - • . .. .. .. .. . ... . .. . . ._ . and (a) (no) charge will be made for installing said
lines.
15. Gas mains will be installed by . .. . . . . . . .. .. . . . . .. . . . . . . .
. . . . . .. . . .. . . . . .. . . . . . . . ... . . . ... .
and (a) (no) charge will be made for installing said mains.
16. If streets shown on the plat are claimed by the applicant to be existing public streets in the
Suffolk County Highway system, annex Schedule "LB" hereto, to show same.
17. If streets shown on the plat are claimed by the applicant to be existing public streets in the
Town of Southold Highway system, annex Schedule "C" hereto to show same.
18. There are no existing buildings or structures on the land which are not located and shown
on the plat.
19. Where the plat shows proposed streets which are extensions of streets on adjoining sub-
division maps heretofore filed, there are no reserve strips at the end of the streets on said
existing maps at their conjunctions with the proposed streets.
20. In the course of these proceedings, the applicant will offer proof of title as required by Sec.
335 of the Real Property Law.
21. Submit a copy of proposed deed for lots showing all restrictions, covenants, etc. Annex
Schedule "D".
22. The applicant estimates that the cost of grading and required public improvements will be
$. . . .. .. .. . as itemized in Schedule "E" hereto annexed and requests that the maturity of the
Performance Bond be fixed at . .. .. .. . . . . . . . years. The Performance Bond will be written by
a licensed surety company unless otherwise shown on Schedule "F".
DATE ... .. .. . . . . .?Ka L7. . .. . . .. 19.?, . . . . D ,B,M. Co. . . . . . . .... .. .. .
(Name of Applicant)
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By . ._ . . . .. . . .
(Signature and Title)
443 Main St., Grceenpoat, N.Y. 11944
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. .. . . . . .. I .. . . . .. . . . . . . .
(Address)
STATE OF NEW YORK, COUNTY OF . , ,Su{{o2h. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .I ss:
On the . .. .. .1.j. .. .. . day of. . . .. . . . May. .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 19. . 9�., before me personally came
R,< C'1. IbnaeC
.. .. . .. . . .. .. .. . . . . . . .
, , ,.. , to me known to be the individual described in and who
executed the foregoing instrument, and acknowledged that . .he. . . . . .. . executed the same.
SUSANNE I PERRICONE
NOTARY PUBLIC, State of NOW YOrk
No. 4882799 ��--�-
Qualified in Suffolk CountY1995 Otar}' Public
Commission Expires Jan.20,
STATE OF NEW YORK. COUNTY OF . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . .. .. . . .. . . . . . ss:
On the . . . . . . . . . .. .. .. . day . .. .. . . . . . . . of . . . . . . . .. . . .. .. 19. .... ., before me personally came
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . to me known, who being by me duly sworn did de-
pose and say that . .. .. . . .. .. . resides at No. . . . .. . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . .. . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. .. . . . . . .. . . .. . that . .. .. . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . is the
. .. . . . . . . .. . . .. .. . of . .. .. . . . . .. . . .. . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. .. .. .. .. .... ... . . . . . . . . . . . .
the corporation described in and which executed the foregoing instrument; that . .. .. .. . . .. . knows
the seal of said corporation; that the seal affixed by order of the board of directors of said corporation.
and that . . . . . . . . . . . . signed . .. .. .... . . . . . name thereto by like order.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . .. ... .... . . .... .. .
Notary Public
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Southold, N.Y. 11971
(516) 765-1938
QUESTIONNAIRE TO BE COMPLETED AND SUBMITTED
WITH YOUR APPLICATIONS FORMS TO THE PLANNING BOARD
Please complete, sign and return to the Office of the Planning
Board with your completed applications forms. If your answer-
to any of the following questions is yes, please indicate
these on your guaranteed survey or submit other appropriate
evidence:
1. Are there any wetland grasses on this parcel? Yes No
(Attached is a list of the wetland grasses defined
by the Town Code, Chapter 97, for your reference)
2. Are there any other premises under your ownership
abutting this parcel? Yes No
3. Are there any building permits pending on
this parcel? Yes No
4. Are there any other applications pending
concerning this property before any other
department or agency? (Town , State, County, etc. ) Yes No
5. Is there any application pending before
any other agency with regard to a different
project on this parcel? Yes No
6. Was this property the subject of any prior
application to the Planning Board? Yes No
7. Does this property have a valid certificate
of occupancy, if yes please submit .a copy of same Yes No
I certify that the abovest nts are true and will be relied
on b the Planning Board in consi ring this application. /��
Sign ture of pro rty owner o aut rized agent dates`'
SuP�Fr�
® United States soil Riverhead County Center s
Department of Conservation Room E-16
Agriculture Service Riverhead, New York 11901-3398
September 23, 1993
Ms. Melissa Spiro
Planning Board Office
Town of Southold
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
Dear Ms. Spiro:
As per our discussion concerning the revised layout of the Highpoint at
South Harbor site by the Planning Board, I would like to make the following
comments: First the revised layout locates four of the eight lots directly
in the middle of a major drainageway on the property. This is a major
concern since this drainageway outlets into Goose Creek and has the potential
of contributing pollutants in the form of lawn fertilizers and chemicals into
the bay. There is also the potential for serious erosion problems during
construction. Access to each lot would also have to cross the drainageway,
which would add to the problem.
The site is not well suited to agriculture regardless of the layout. The area is
surrounded by homesites, has a relatively steep slope, averaging three percent,
and has a major drainageway cutting through the property. The soil located
on the south portion of the property is mapped Plymouth loamy sand. This
soil is not well suited to agricuture due to its shallow top soil layer and coarse
sand subsoil.
The south end of the propertyis better suited to the Planning Boards proposed
layout. Shifting the lots to the south would avoid the drainageway, and pre-
serve the more productive soils on the property.
Locating lots along South Harbor Road would infringe upon the more productive
soil on the site, but would be more enviornmentally sound. Very little runoff
would leave the lots and the risk of erosion during and after construction would
be low.
If I can provide further input or if you have quesitons feel free to contact me.
Sincerely,
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Allan S. Connell
District Conservationist
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PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS SCOTT L. HARRIS
Benne[[ Orlowski, Jr., Chairman '!t- Supervisor
George Ritchie Latham, Jr. 7 f51 � aU���
Richard G. Ward Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
Mark S. McDonald P.O. Box 1179
Kenneth L. Edwards PLANNING BOARD OFFICE Southold, New York 11971
Telephone (516) 765-1938 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Fax (516) 765-1823
August 26, 1993
Allan Connell
USDA-SCS
Riverhead County Center
Room E-16
1 Center Drive
Riverhead, New York 11901
RE: Major Subdivision
Highpoint at South Harbor (aka D.B.M. Co. )
E/s South Harbor Road and w/s Main Bayview
Southold
SCTM# 1000-75-4-22 .1
Dear Mr. Connell:
A few months ago you reviewed the above mentioned site for the
Planning Board.
Since receipt of your subsequent report, the Planning Board has
had many meetings and discussions with both surrounding property
owners and the applicant in regard to different options for
development of the site.
The Planning Board is requiring that the development be designed
as a cluster layout. The Board wishes to cluster the development
in such a way as to reserve the best part of the land for
agricultural purposes in order to insure its continuing use as a
farm. The Board would like your professional opinion in regard
to development of the site in this manner.
Thank you in advance for your assistance. Please contact me if
you require any additional information.
Sincerely,
Melissa Spito
Planner
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PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS SCOTT L. HARRIS
Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman Supervisor
George Ritchie Latham, Jr.
Richard G. Ward Town Hall. 53095 Main Road
Mark S. McDonald P.O. Box 1179
Kenneth L. Edwards PLANNING BOARD OFFICE Southold, New York 11971
Telephone (516) 765-1938 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Fax (516) 765-1823
August 27, 1993
Richard Israel
443 Main Street
P.O. Box 2130
Greenport, New York 11944
RE: Proposed Major Subdivision
Highpoint at South Harbor
Southold
E/s South Harbor Road, w/s Main Bayview Road
SCTM# 1000-75-4-22.1
Dear Mr. Israel:
The Planning Board has reviewed your proposal to design a two
acre subdivision layout similar to that shown on the yield map
dated April 27, 1993. Section 100-181 (A) of the Town Code
mandates clustering on lots of ten ( 10) or more acres in the
R-80 Residential District. The Board is requiring that any
subdivision of this site be designed as a cluster subdivision in
accordance with the Town Code.
During discussions held at work sessions attended by Herbert
Mandel and yourself, the Planning Board repeatedly requested
that you redesign your original cluster layout which shows eight
of the nine proposed lots fronting on South Harbor Road. The
Planning Board offered a sketch of an alternative layout with
the lots clustered to the north side of the property and the
remaining large lot spanning from South Harbor Road to Main
Bayview Road. The Board has not changed its original request
and awaits submission of a revised clustered layout.
Please contact this office if you have any questions regarding
the above.
Sincerely,
J� /
Richard G. Ward �S
Chairman
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acceptable to the Boated. I6 thz .is acceptable to the BoaAd, we
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The map above shows the new plan for the Steppnoski Faim.The developer is saying that this plan"works"because he has town
water alon South Harbor Road.This means it"works"Ior their bottom line and not what is best for the surrounding area. This proposal is
also aimed at those residents on South Harbor Road who stood up to the first plan.These are the same guys who tried to sell the Town
Board on the first plan saying it 'fit into the surrounding area and density' and"that it melts into the existing farmland."
There is no sensitivitq to the environment,no consideration to local traffic patterns,or to the surrounding farms and beaches.There
are only two men who think this is a good idea,we need to show the planning board how many of us think it is a`BAD IDEA." IT IS
IMPORTANT TO ATTEND THE WORK SESSION OF THE PLANNING BOARD ON MONDAY JUNE, 28TH AT 4:30 AT TOWN HALL..
Once again we are asking you to Sign your name at the bottom of this flyer stating that the proposed development is still unacceptable. Bring
it to the meeting Mmail it to Michael Croteau, 1450 South Harbor Road,Southold 11971 or drop it In the mail box at 1450 South
Harbor Road,(thC=Clwefl farm,just norr of Iappe's)before Monday afternoon. Our voice worked once let's make it work again!
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01 would be Interested In donating to the coalition to keep this development from happening
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Mr. Ward: Like you would see when you go into a dip in the city whero, the
drain. . .
Mr. Moore: I think that's what we were thinking about as wel as a
solution, i hat's agreeable to you we' ll see if the engin rs can work on
that. The sec d item of some significance there is the gn which is
there and that si at the present location has been t re for I don't know
how long but the let r that you folks wrote to us ested the sign I.e
moved back 25 feet, an we were asking if the sign`remained where it is
it's going to be within a andscaped area. As der as visibility goes you
have in your file a study e by Dunn Traffithat we had presented to you
back when we were debating an negotiating„knd arguing over the number of
curb cuts on Rt. 25. You had ted the,,,dne at one point and we had Dunn
Engineering come back and do a tr fiG.Atudy to show that two would work.
One of the findings in their trafc s dy was that the visibility at
Marratooka and 25 where that p, ent si is located is no trouble
whatsoever. So, where the s' is present situated does not provide a
visibility problem for the se of that intertion. And so we ask that
that sign remain where i is and has been, and t be relocated. Drainage
was the one thing and e sign is the second. Ot r than that I think we
can get a site plan at's suitable. If you have a questions, I have the
Tartan Oil folks e as well.
Mr. Ward: We' 1 take it under advisement and get back to Does the
Board have y comments?
Mr. Mc ald: The site's looking better. The signage is dropping, you're
site' looking better.
Mr. Ward: Highpoint at South Harbor - This major subdivision is for 9 lots
on 17.5473 acres located on the east side of South Harbor Road and the west
side of Main Bayview Road in Southold. SCTM# 1000-75-4-22.1 . Is there
anybody here that would like to speak this evening regarding this proposed
subdivision?
Michael Croteau: I'm with a few of the other people interested in the
subdivision. The latest plan the developers submitted. . .and I understand
he doesn't feel it necessary to submit anymore, has the 100 foot lots
running down South Harbor Lane. I 'know that there's been some discussion
with the Planning Board as to the feasibility of this plan already. I am
here just to say that I think that there is a more effective way to
exercise the cluster zoning that they had on that piece of property, to put
the houses in an area that keeps the open vistas both for South Harbor Road
and Bayview Road and uses that piece of property in a manner that doesn't
essentially cut it off from both si0es as it would with a tract of houses
that they propose to run down South Harbor Road. I don't 'mow if the
Planning Board has received any other plans from the developer at this
point, but. I think I'm spea'.cing for myself and alot of other people here
that are pretty upset with the existing plan that he has on the table, and
I would like to spea'c my peace tonight about that plan.
Southold Town Plan* Board 15 Wuly 12, 1993
Mr. Ward: Anybody else like to address the Board this evening?
Patty Petit: I live in the area of South Harbor Road and I don't like the
judgement that was made that it was a NIMBY syndrome, not in my back yard.
It's just that I like Southold because it still has its rural character and
I am happy with that even when it hadn't make a master plan and it upsets
me to think that we're going to consider that. I know we talked, the last
time we were before the Planning Board, the cluster development was
permissible because the property was in excess of 10 acres. The plan that
the developers have submitted is very unsatisfactory and it's really
unsightly and I'm very unhappy with it as Michael Croteau has said, and
many of our neighbors and other people in the community, it's not just the
people in that particular area. It would be problems with traffic, it
would be problems for the school. I would be happier to stick with the two
acre zoning and have a house on two acres, and speaking with people in the
community they seem to be happy with that.
Or if you're going to go ahead and consider a cluster development, let's
not change the character of Southold so much by just shoving all these
houses side by side because it would be pretty ugly. I would be happy to
see more of a spreading out of the houses so it wouldn't be such a strip
mall at this point, if those plans were approved. I feel that they're
doing it to save themselves some money and make a little more profit
because the water has already been brought down the road for them to take
advantage of someone else having paid for that. If they want to develop
the property, go ahead an pay the money to make water available.
Some other concerns that concern me is that I spoke to a man, and I meant
to get ahold of him but I could only reach him on a Sunday when I'm not
available, who had mentioned that a complete Indian skeleton was found in
that area of the George Stepnoski farm several years ago and I would like
to speak with him again and try to get some documentation which might be
interesting. Apparently, he feels that there may have been an Indian
village located at that point which would make alot of sense because the
creek would be right there.
I'm also concerned about runoff problems into the creek and the problem of
runoff and pollution and the brown tide, which we all 'mow about. And I'll
just close and say I just hope you don't accept those plans because I think
it would be really terrible and unsightly and I'd like to see some other
plan explored. Thanks.
Mr. Ward: Anyone else like to speak?
Donald Frederick: I'm a resident of Glen Road, right adjacent there, which
I had mentioned before, there are seventeen small lots still open down
there out of the fifty that were developed in 1963. Now we don't need more
small lots and I'd like to address the 100 foot lots. Nowadays, most
people want to attach their garage to their house. Many families have two
cars. In the last ten years, more and more people have gone in for
recreation vehicles which could mean a trailer or a house or motor home
which obviously don't go into the garage, and many people have boats on
trailers -- 16, 18 up to 24 foot. Now I have drawn up. . .taking what I could
Southold Town Planni0Board 16 •1y 12, 1993
get out of this small map, with my 80 year old eyes and last years ruler,
and I have divided this up into five lots on South Harbor Road of 163 feet
front, which allows you to have your garage on the end of your house where
you can drive in at a right angle into your house and also access to your
back yard.
Many people now have swimming pools in their back yard. They're getting
more and more popular. And back yards are becoming more prevalent, more
useful. Now, we're dividing it into five lots of 163 feet, it would
require about 491 feet or so to get your required 80,000 square feet lots,
2 acre lots. And I have divided the Bayview area, I've sketched it
in. . .as I say I can't do it accurately and any surveyor could fine tune it
and get these other lots in here, that would be 2 acres. The only possible
exception that I see here, the first I had known that it was 17-1/2 acres,
and the possibility would be to make that existing farmhouse there into a
1--1/2 acre lot. The developer would have to add no roads, he'd have to add
no utilities and I think it might be a workable plan and I'd like to have
the Board consider it. As I say it's a little crude. . .
Mr. Ward: OK, thank you.
Paula Croteau: I would just like to make a comment on Mr. Israel's
statement in the paper which I took great offense to which was the people
who attend these meetings don't know what they're here for. Mr. Israel, I
would look around the room and I bet everyone could stand up and tell you
their own point of view as to why we don't want a track of houses down
South Harbor Road.
Mr. Israel: And I'm here to listen to every single one of you.
Ms. Croteau: Well, I think you owe apologies to all of us in this room.
Mr. Israel: And I think you owe me the same.
Ms. Croteau: No, I don't think so, Mr. Israel but. . .(everyone talking)
Mr. McDonald: Please direct your comments to the Board.
Mr. Ward: This is not even a public hearing yet, this is highly unusual,
we're in a sketch phase here and we're trying to listen to everybody and
you are being put on the record tonight which is kind of unusual. We
normally would adjourn and then just hear this as comments.
Ms. Croteau: I apologize, Mr. Ward, I understand. The comment did take me
back. I just want to make the point that there are a number of people here
, and everyone does have their own reason why they do not want to see a
track of houses put down South Harbor Road, and I just do want to go on
record saying that there are alot of other alternatives and we'd like to
make sure that the Board is keeping an open mind and also encourage the
developer to come up with some alternative plans. Than'c you, and I
apologize for that.
Mr. Ward: Thank you. Anyone else that would like to speak?
Southold Town Planno Board 17 Oly 12, 1993
Ms. Croteau: I'd just like to add one more comment, I'm sorry. And the
comment that I'd like to make is when you had your Planning Board a week or
so ago, which was just sort of an informal Planning Board, my concern is
the fact that if we go ahead and leave say 12 acres as the proposal was to
be undeveloped was that members of the Board had indicated that yes, it
would be possible at some future date for that 12 acres to be subdivided,
although some Board members did say well, not as long as I'm here. But in
speaking to many people in the community, that very much did concern them
and upset them that say you go ahead and approve these plans, that may be
several years down the road that could go ahead and be subdivided, and just
as I have said, it would destroy the rural character and please keep that
in mind.
Mr. Ward: Basically, what we were addressing there is that the cluster
subdivision provisions of the Town, if we were to save half or more of the
property, you're only allowed to have the eight lots or nine lots in this
case on this particular property. Whether that be configured in nine equal
lots or in one large lot and eight smaller lots, the one large lots and
eight smaller lots is what we normally would call our cluster in which we
would then preserve one lot for some other use such as farming or horse
farm or some other large property use. There would be covenants and
restrictions on that. There are 20 or 30 subdivisions in this town that
have been subdivided in this manner where there are currently half or more
of the subdivision has been set aside for a farm lot or for another use for
open space or for whatever it happened to be. The covenants and
restrictions on that property are very difficult to break. What was said,
which was true, yes, is it possible in the future to break them? Well, it
would take and act of the Town Board or the trustees in the sense of the
town, to make those kinds of decisions. They would have to be zoning
decisions that would be made at some date. The liklihood of it happening
is very unlikely. The mandate of the present Town Code is to create large
open spaces where we can. And, therefore, when we did meet with the
developer initially, a cluster subdivision was really asked for in this
case, was looked at as a means of preserving some large open space in the
area.
Mr. Croteau: I have one more thing to say on that. I think that we were
misconstrued as challenging the cluster concept of it and I think that
there were some people here that feel that 2 acres spread out larger lots
on the whole property is a better idea, I question the feasibility of the
cluster plan that was presented because I don't think that it accomplishes
what the cluster is intended to do. It basically is going to cut off the
vista and cut off the open space from essentially both sides and this is a
neat piece of property in the sense that it has such an exposure and two
highly trafficed roads. By putting the nine houses down one side you
create a backdrop for whatever open space is left which basically I feel
destroys that vista and obviously from the other side it's going to cut if
off entirely. I think that there has been a real insensitivity towards the
piece of property in designing it that way, and as someone said in the
previous meeting, it wasn't planning to put a ruler on a piece of paper and
draw a straight line and we all know why the line went where it did,
because of public water being there. I thin that there is also public
water if I'm not mistaken, on Grange Road, which the cul--de--sac butts right
Southold Town Tian* Board 18 �uly 12, 1993
up to the piece of property. There is also an even better water supply as
far as I know very close on Bayview so I think that. . .I don't quite
understand why the nine houses and the railroad down one side of the
property is presented like that and I think the cluster could be more
effectively done.
Mr. Ward: I think we've reached a point where. . .I 'mow the representative
of the applicant is here, Mr. Israel, and we open it up to you to make a
few comments in defense of your plan, or whatever you would like to say.
Richard Israel: I am the developer of the property. Originally, we brought
this subdivision into the Tom Board as an affordable housing subdivision
which would have needed a variance to do so. But, because of the public
outcry we determined that if it is unwanted in the area and I thin'c the
Town Board at that time felt it was unnecessary to have more affordable
housing in the town, we abandoned that plan. We now are in front of the
Planning Board, through its normal process to develop the lard. Under
Southold code we are pretty much required to cluster which is a code that
determined what to do with spaces.
One of the important things of the cluster subdivision is that it creates a
large lot to conserve or to use for farming uses or other open space uses.
The plan that we have presented to the Board here tries to keep that 1.2 or
13 acre lot. I believe under code I could mace one acre lots here, but due
to the dimension of the plots, we have reduced them to 3/4 acre plots. Now
3/4 acre plots sounds small, but they are actually very large. On a 3/1
acre plot you can put everything from a house to a swimming pool to a
garage to a Karn, to quite a hit. `Most people do not build large houses in
the Town of Southold that are off the water. The reason we made them 300
feet deep was one_th4 n, that does hagnen in suhdivisions historically is
that the people that are adjacent to farm lots look to keep their houses
away from them due to the farming use, the pesticides, the fertilizers,
the dust. The original plan which we have now presented to you, the last
hundred feet is meant to be that buffer zone between them
The other thing you have to remember with lots is that a house does not
take up an entire lot in it's width or size. There are setback
requirements by the Town. One of the things we did consider, and the
Planning Board did discus with us was to keep the openness of South Harbor,
we would have a further requirement of a setback necessary than the 35 foot
that us required under Town Code which would give the road more a feeling
of openness. One of the things here is the creation of roads. We can
create a road but it will not decrease traffic and as many houses here that
we're putting, we're putting all of 8 dwelling units or nine dwelling ugits
-- one does exist -- on a 17 acre tract or an 18 acre tract. F
Some of the questions here that I've heard tonight were traffic. One
reason we've set towards South Harbor is due to traffic. The Main Bayview
portion of this parcel sits on a tremendous curve and a very dangerous one
and we've tried to avoid putting any driveways onto that curve. N113 that's
one reason why we've chosen the South Harbor side. The other comment was
the small lots which most of the lots that are in Southold today are 3/4 or
one acre lots. I know the Planning Board in trying to preserve as much
open
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up to the piece of property. There is also an even better water supply as
far as I know very close on Bayview so I think that. . .I don't quite
understand why the nine houses and the railroad down one side of the
property is presented like that and I think the cluster could be more
effectively done.
Mr. Ward: I think we've reached a point where. . .I 'mow the representative
of the applicant is here, Mr. Israel, and we open it up to you to make a
few comments in defense of your plan, or whatever you would like to say.
Richard Israel: I am the developer of the property. Originally, we brought
this subdivision into the Town Board as an affordable housing subdivision
which would have needed a variance to do so. But, because of the public
outcry we determined that if it is unwanted in the area and I think the
Town Board at that time felt it was unnecessary to have more affordable
housing in the town, we abandoned that plan. We now are in front of the
Planning Board, through its normal process to develop the lard. Under
Southold code we are pretty much required to cluster which is a code that
determined what to do with spaces.
One of the important things of the cluster subdivision is that it creates a
large lot to conserve or to use for farming uses or other open space uses.
The plan that we have presented to the Board here tries to keep that 12 or
13 acre lot. I believe under code I could make one acre lots here, but due
to the dimension of the plots, we have reduced them to 3/4 acre plots. Now
3/4 acre plots sounds small, but they are actually very large. On a 3/4
acre plot you can put everything from a house to a swimming pool to a
garage to a barn, to quite a bit. Most people do not build large houses in
the Town of Southold that are off the water. The reason we made them 300
feet deep was one thing that does happen in subdivisions historically is
that the people that are adjacent to farm lots look to keep their houses
away from them due to the farming use, the pesticides, the fertilizers,
the dust. The original plan which we have now presented to you, the last
hundred feet is meant to be that buffer zone between them
The other thing you have to remember with lots is that a house does not
take up an entire lot in it's width or size. There are setback
requirements by the Town. One of the things we did consider, and the
Planning Board did discus with us was to keep the openness of South Harbor,
we would have a further requirement of a setback necessary than the 35 foot
that us required under Town Code which would give the road more a feeling
of openness. One of the things here is the creation of roads. We can
create a road but it will not decrease traffic and as many houses here that
we're putting, we're putting all of 8 dwelling units or nine dwelling units
-- one does exist -- on a 17 acre tract or an 18 acre tract.
Some of the questions here that I've heard tonight were traffic. One
reason we've set towards South Harbor is due to traffic. The Main Bayview
portion of this parcel sits on a tremendous curve and a very dangerous one
and we've tried to avoid putting any driveways onto that curve. And that's
one reason why we've chosen the South Harbor side. . The other comment was
the small lots which most of the lots that are in Southold today are 3/4 or
one acre lots. I know the Planning Board in trying to preserve as much
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open space as possible always tries to push down to a smaller lot to live
on and having more open space created to keep the vistas and the concept of
cluster zoning.
The other thing that I would like to address to some of the people who
don't know some of the subdivision that I have done, we place covenants and
restrictions on our subdivisions which keep them as single family homes.
They go as far as to not allow above ground pools, to not allow trailers
outside their homes. If a person has a boat or a trailer it must be placed
in a garage structure so it is not visible from the street. And we have
several covenants and restrictions which keep up the nature of the
property. You're not allowed to keep and unregistered vehicle on any of
our lots, and people buy these lots knowing this, and knowing they want to
live in a certain area this way.
In meeting with the Board I have gone back with my engineers and we have
tried to figure out a way to achieve what Mike has asked for and that the
Planning Board has asked for which is to open up the vista. This can be
done through a variety of ways of flag lots and small roads and even a
major road if that's what you want, but it doesn't serve the purpose I
don't think, with keeping the vista. (Change tape) The vista that's being
created here is not one from South Harbor, but one of Main Bayview. It is
the more traveled road, it is the more scenic road, it is the road closer
to the water, things of that nature. And it lays out nicely. If you
recall, there is a 3 acre piece of property to the south of this parcel
which will have a firehouse on it in the near future, I believe. I don't
know if anybody's aware of that in this room. A firehouse is not a use
that everybody wants in their backyard. Anything that I'm asking for on
this map is no different than any other subdivision. The piece is not
environmentally sensitive and is just there. It is zoned R--80 and we're
trying to develop it as best we can. If we can help in developing in a
better way, surely we will. The more nicer we can make the lots the more I
can sell them for so there is something here that drives everything.
Mr. Frederick: I don't think I made the entire point when I said the 100
foot lots, almost all of them require backing out onto the highway. Very
few of them work so that you can drive out. You have to back out on the
highway. And also T would bring up another point that these dead end roads
which is Grange Road, referred to right now, there were two rescue calls --
one rescue and one fire call in there within the last four, or five months.
And both times there were traffic jams there with getting ars in and out
and getting the apparatus in there. And where a road doesn't go through, I
don't know what is exactly planned on this; if there are any roads they
should go through from one way to another. There should be two ends to a
road. Thank you.
Ms. Petit: T would just like to comment back to Mr. Tsrael that I question
his statement that Main Bayview is the more heavily traveled road. That's
count how many cars go by on each one, because I'll tell you South Harbor
Road is very busy, particularly in the summer months and T disagree and
let's just say that was opinion, just as it's mine. We could count the
cars and find out.. Thank you.
Southold Town Planni*Board 20 Gly 12, 1993
Mr. Ward: Is there anyone else that would like to address the Board?
Unknown woman: Yes, I have a question. I would like to ask who would
enforce the covenants and restrictions on the property. Mr. Israel was
saying that there would be restrictions as for having unregistered vehicles
there and for having different things on the property that would be
asthetically pleasing to the area. Who would enforce these?
Mr. Ward: The property owners themselves would be allowed to enforce that.
There would be C&R's that would run with each of the properties. From your
other subdivisions Mr. Israel, how does that work?
Mr. Israel: Basically, in other subdivisions either a Homeowners
Association is created to do it. In the first seven years, I take care of
that covenant and restriction, and you can see from my past developments
that they have been enforced. I've lost many a sale to people who want to
put their boat in their driveway, and we just don't agree with it. After
my term, or once they are in place and recorded if you are an adjacent
owner and you object to anything on your next door neighbor's property or
down the street that has that covenant, you have the right to come and
enforce that in a court of law. It is something they bought, subject to,
and it will be enforced. The only way it can be changed is by I believe a
quorum and a creation of a Homeowners Association before they can be
changed, and they normally do never get changed.
Raymond Berkaw: I'm a resident of South Harbor Road. I wondered what the
procedure is following this meeting? We have seen one plan submitted by
Mr. Israel. I suspect that we could have much better plans provided. I
have seen others. Where does the Planning Board go from here?
Mr. Ward: Fair question. I think that at this particular juncture we've
heard from the community, we've heard from the developer, I think we're
looking to the developer to come up with something a little more creative
than he has presented and get back to us basically a this point.
Ms. Petit: I have a question. Isn't it the Town who enforces. . .for
example if I had a car in my driveway and it had no license plate on it,
isn't it a Town ordinance that says I'm not permitted to do that and isn't
there someone in the Town whose job it is if my yard had junk cars all over
isn't it a Town rule that you're not allowed to do that?
Mr. Ward: Yes, in that particular case, you're right, it would be the
Town.
Ms. Petit: So it wouldn't be a developer necessarily.
Mr. Ward: Well, no, what Mr. Israel is saying is that he was going to
place C&R's on each of the lots where you couldn't park a Winnebago in the
front yard and you couldn't put your boat there and other things like that.
Ms. Petit: Yes, but is it true that the Town does have a rule that says if
you have a car, does it have a license plate, it can't be parked in your
yard.
Southold Town PlanniieBoard 21 wy 12, 1993
Mr. McDonald: He's talking about putting in place rules more restrictive
than the Town. But the more restrictive part, the Town would have no
liability to enforce it. But the parts that are in the Town Code, the Town
Building Department supposedly. . .
Ms. Petit: And the Town Building Department will give summonses out right?
Mr. Ward: Yes.
Mr. Israel: Just to clarify that, under the Town you can have as many
unregistered vehicles as you would like on your property. After you have
three or more unregistered vehicles, the only infraction they can get you
on is that you're operating a junk yard without permission. And there are
several places even on South Harbor Road where you have farms, a little
further down which have quite a number of junk vehicles on their property
that are not used but they don't take them away to the dump because that
costs money.
Unknown woman: I want to ask, is it only a handful of the neighbors who
can complain about the boat and trailer. If I live in Greenport, can I go
to Mattituck and complain about somebody's boat, if it's zoned that way.
For example, if I ]mow that Highpoint Meadows is zoned that way, and if I
live in Greenport and I see somebody's boat trailer in Highpoint Meadows
can I complain, or do I have to live in Highpoint Meadows?
Mr. Israel: You do not have to live in it, it's something that runs with
the land.
Woman: You said your neighbor could take him to court.
Mr. Israel: In most situations, it would be the neighbor who would
complain first because why should he look at a boat that's maybe been
abandoned in a back yard, so at least he can protect his rights upon which
he bought the land.
Woman: In most cases, but could I?
Mr. Israel: I don't know the answer to The answer that I just got,
quickly, is that it really just pertains to the other owners in that
development.
i
Mr. Ward: Alright, let me just summarize and say that we appreciate your
coming out and taking an interest. We hope that we see more interest like
this in the future. What we'd like to do at this point is we will have
some discussions with the developer and see if we can do some modifications
to come up with a happy medium here. We've heard your responses and we'll
go from here. The next order of business would to bring this to some
conclusion in terms of a map which would then come up to a sketch hearing
at which time their sketch proposal would be presented, it would be at a
session like this, from there it goes to preliminary which you'd then have
another change to talk at as well as a final hearing. It is a major
subdivision so it takes those stages. We have not approved or disapproved
at this point, a sketch submission. Is there any other comment from the
Board?
Southold Town PlannBoard 22 ly 12, 1993
Mr. Orlowski: Mr. Chairman, I'd just take an informal poll. I guess all
of you have gotten this flyer that we have up here. Is this a better
layout to you? No.
Mr. Frederick: No, too many unanswered questions there.
Mr. Orlowski: Like I said, it's an informal poll.
Mr. Ward: I thank you all for coming.
Mr. Ward: San Andres - Mr. Saland to discuss purchase of development
rights. SCIM# 1000--125--1-2.9. We thank you for waiting, bu we had to
keep oing here.
Marshal Crowley: I'm an attorney from Southampton, I re esent David
Saland. is gentleman is Luis San Andres, and is here epresenting
himself. and David Saland are partners in a vineya which you may be
aware of in urel on the Main Road called San Andres ineyards. The
property some ars ago, five or six years ago, was he subject of a 4 lot
subdivision. I lieve that map was filed. The i tent of the subdivision
was largely abando ed. The property has been us as a vineyard for the
last 12 years. It s under cultivation long fore the development of
(inaudible) was even bmitted. So effective , that subdivision was
abandoned at least in t. sense that it's be n under cultivation for the
last 12 years. The intent ow is to accept uffolk County's offer to
purchase the development ri hts to the en ire property. We have a firm
offer from them and we're in ined to a ept it.
However, we may or may not, at s cture make an application to this
Board for a winery. We're not dol that, we're not here to discuss that,
but that may be a possibility. T at end, we need to enter contract with
the County now, and they've agre to o that in the alternative, on a
price. Their obligation would to pa our obligation would be to convey
and the only question is whet er there wo d be a carve out for a winery.
For the .very same reasons t. t I can't tell hem today that we would ever
make such an application, ch less pre-judge whether you'd be inclined to
grant such an applicatio is the same reason 're here informally to have
a little chat along the ollowing lines, that we we to make such an
application in the fut re, and were this Board inc 'ned for any reason to
grant that, we're n here to pre--judge that, to ge some idea of how to
mesh the County's i erest with what would be require and what might be
permitted.
If I were king the world and there was to be a winery, i would be well
off- the road, ery, very far off the road. As I understand om talking to
you Mr. Kassn r, you only require -- and this is in an AC zone - from what I
understand that the setback off the road for any structure is 60 feet,
and that a ideyard setback which would be intended off the easte right
of way I lieve he said 25 feet, it could be 30-35 feet, it wouldn
matter. Assuming that is the case, the County then superimposes a
require nt that the carve out since it would be that close to the roa
Sam y
41,
instead
C1US - • of open
S ASSt p .wb>aa well advised
tg foaeagg"Elibatrs. lame, and
Mandel to build " eight mini-est"
By_Ruth Jefstitett' lin two s iota- s4Me:iter &in*
'Harbor,t tmFa #K.ww
SOUTHOLD—A troremetN is afoot on mge R Cotttlni►ed from p9pt 14,
to challenge clo t tAM!n8• motto t3tb s 'tie,, they're on if it weren't for,a devei-
PlaMorthan 50 Board
rworknts packed ries to a petitiogjn opposition to
dje open"
a Planning Boatel wOlk session *W a glut of build" lnsisting that die farmland in quer
Monday afternoon M object to the lots already exists in the area,' that tion is "nota ial mere," Mr.
preliminary Site plan fora clustered, traffic in the area wilt be adversely Israel toot Mr. Croteau and..Me South
eight-home development arm South -affected by the construction of eight Harbor.group to task over their-objec
Harbor Road as proposed by devel- homes'and that no one other than theopers [ion to cluster zoning. "They wan to
Herb Merinda,sand Richard eight li tnebwoers will be.able to we change the law so it's good for them."
The flan — which does not sattaite the open-space tract behind their he said. "Nobody wants to buy a two--
a change of zone—was submitted by homes.
the developers after many of the some acre la. too,much ti upkeep, too
town residents, organized by -Soatl[ "I can't see the farmland behind mach land And it's wrong,-Ifwe cut
Harbor Roadresidents Michael and their houses either.," Mr-.israel, re- the whole town into two-acre lots,
Paula Croteau, convinced tbe.Town sponded this week, "The positive imagine how it would look, Southold
Board earlier this year to nix a Woes of 04&graleAiat there Will be would be destroyed." appeared at a
proposal for 28 affordable homes on no further creation of streets, which Mr. Cioteau also a
the site. cost, taxpayers; money to clean, Town Board meeting on Tuesday to,
maintain and for stow removal. The "go on record" as being opposed to
Area residents are basing their op- mon we've diagoaJots onSotocluster coning.
position on the fact that the !tomes Harbor is pwOy fat_yaWic-:reasoap, A public ,hearing on the Israell ,
will occupy only five acres of the17- MaiP AayviO*f_*t that point is an ear Mandel development will be held .
acre tract. "The cluster zone is going tretaniy . ; piece of pm bef Iloard on July 12.
to come under fire from a to of pen �'i A els. A1Ait �
pie in the community, said Mr. iifsihaipsC.is oa
Croteau. "A mmnber of people in the Bayview; we mi �U as pan:of
community feel it's not a plan that the open spw.:llkotp a[o no open
has any meat." foot fails* Harbor.
Explaining that the town mandates ", havo a tight to-do this," Mr.
cluster zoning to maximize open Isteei Cbmiatidl: "l'nt jlOii[S Mhat is
space in all subdivisions larger than feasIble forme to do. I'm a developor.
10 acres, Planning Board chairman I'm' sorry for that fact, but tinny
Dick Ward noted that the availabi ' wouldn't be on the
p laic
of public water along South Harbor'
also Ntates blstared
lbera _ . .
MOORE & MOORE
Attomeys at Law
315 Westphalia Road
P.O. Box 23
Mattituck, New York 11952
Tel: (516) 298-5674
Fax: (516) 298-5664
William D. Moore Margaret Rutkowski
Patricia C. Moore Secretary
June 23 , 1993
Southold Town Planning Board
Southold Town Hall
Main Road
Southold, NY 11971
Attention: Melissa
Re: DBM Co. with Stepnoski
..ter
Dear Melissa:
Enclosed please find a letter to the Planning Board from
Rensselaer G. Terry, Jr. , Esq. in the above referenced matter.
Veriv truly yours,
' ll ' D. Moore
WDM/mr
Enc.
2 4 ID""
June 18, 1993
Southold Town Planning Board
Town Hall
Southold, NY 11971
RE: Subdivision application of DBM Co.
Dear Chairman Ward and Members of the Board:
Please accept this letter as the consent of the Estate of George Stepnoski
to the subdivision application of DBM Co. which has been filed with your board.
If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Very truly yours,
4enelaer G. Terry, Jr.
Attorney for the estate
�gUFFO1K�o� • �,ut,�(t;�
RAYMOND L. JACOBS N T JAMES A. RICHTER /016
SUPERINTENDENT OF ENGINEERING
HIGHWAYS ��r01 �.aOINSPECTOR
765-3140 765-3070
OFFICE OF THE ENGINEER //E�
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
JUNE 16 , 1993
Richard G. Ward
Chairman - Planning Board
Town Hall , 53095 Main Road
Southold, New York 11971
Re: HIGHPOINT @ SOUTH HARBOR
D. B.M. Company
SCTM # 1000 - 75 - 04 - 22 . 1
Dear Mr . Ward:
As per your request, I have reviewed the size and location
of the proposed recharge basin shown on the Yield Map for the
above referenced subdivision. The recharge basin shown appears
to be in a good location and has adequate storage capacity to
handle the amount of surface water runoff that would be generated
from the proposed development.
If you have any questions concerning this report, please
contact my office.
Sin erely
James A. Richter , R.A.
cc : Raymond L. Jacobs
(Superintendent of Highways ) a
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JUN 171993
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United States Riverhead Countyenter64
Department of Conservation Room E-16
Agriculture Service Riverhead, New York 11901-3398
June 4, 1993 t/ 5
Mr. Richard Ward
Southold Town Planning Board
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
Dear Mr. Ward:
I have reviewed the proposed subdivision submitted by D.B.M. Company
concerning its' suitability for farming purposes and offer the following
comments:
The predominate soils on the site are Haven Loam (HaA) 0-2 percent slope
and Riverhead sandy loam (RdB) 3-8 percent slope (see enclosed soil map) .
The Haven soil is well suited to all crops commonly grown in the County.
The Riverhead soil is suited to agricultural production, however, there are some
limitations on this site. The major management concerns are controlling runoff
and erosion and providing adequate moisture. The slope in this area is between
3 to 4 percent. Conservation practices would have to be implemented to prevent
erosion from occurring. There is also a natural drainageway which is directing
runoff into Goose Creek. A grassed waterway would probably be necessary in
this area to control gully erosion if row crops were grown.
Runoff from the parcel is a major concern, and must be controlled whether it
is used for agriculture or for housing. The potential pollutant load being
carried by the runoff will have a major impact on Goose Creek and the Peconic
Bay system.
The availability of water is also a major concern. I was unable to locate a well
on the property. This would be a major expense for a farmer and would limit its
usefulness for agricultural purposes.
If you have any further questions please feel free to contact me.
Sincerely,
asco
Allan S. Connell
District Conservationist
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SOIL LEGEND CONVENTIONAL SIGNS
WORKS AND STRUCTURES BOUNDARIES SOIL SURVEY DATA
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BRC Bridgehamptm silt loam,rill substratum,6 to 12 percent slopes
Bm Bridgehampton silt loam,graded National Interstate .......... Land survey division corners ... L -J- I Chert fragments a:
C. Comedic.sill loam
CpA Carver and Plymouth sands, Oto 3 percent slopes U' S' -' - -- - y spot ...
CPC Carver and Plymouth sands,3 to 15 percent slopes
Call Carver and Plymouth sands, 15 to 35 percent slopes Stale or county ..._.,___... O DRAINAGE Sand spot
Curt Cut and fill land,gently sloping
Cuc Cut and fill land,sloping Railroads Streams, double line Gumbo or scabby spot ......... 0
CuE Cut and fill and, steep
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Go Gravel pits
Road ........................ Intermittent
HHaven loam, Oro 2 Percent slopes
Hob.B Haven loam,2 to b percem slopes Crossable with tillage
HoC Haven loam,Gro 12 percent slopes Trail ....... .._.- -- implements
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MIC Montauk soils,graded,8 to 15 percent slopesmater
R. R. over ......_....-.._.. I Perennial ...........__.....
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PIA Plymouth loamy sand,0 to 3 percent slopes School ..............._..... f Marsh or swam vv.
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FIB Plymouth loamy sand,3 to 8 percent slopes
PIC Plymouth loamy sand, B to 15 perc eat slopes
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PmC3 Plymouth gravelly loamy sand,8 to 15 percent slopes,eroded
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PLANNING BOARD
- • • Su�G'i c E
YOUNG & YOUNG
PLANNING, ENGINEERING & LAND SURVEYING
400 OSTRANDER AVENUE, RIVERHEAD, NEW YORK 11901
Telephone 516-727-2903 Facsimile 518.727-0144
May 13 , 1993
ATTN: Ms. Melissa Spiro
Town of Southold Planning Board
Town Hall
53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
RE: D.B.M. COMPANY
at Southold, T/O Southold, New York
(93-0148)
Dear Ms. Spiro:
Enclosed is the completed Long Environmental Assessment Form
for the above referenced project, for your review.
Very truly yours,
61�i 4 e - GUolep
Thomas C. Wolpert, P. E.
TCW/sjt
Encl.
cc: Mr. Richard Israel + Encl.
MAY 71990
SOUTHOLDTOWN
PLANNING BOARD
ALDEN W.YOUNG HOWARD W.YOUNG THOMASC.WOLPERT KENNETH F.ABRUZZO
Professional Engineer Land Surveyor Professional Engineer Land Surveyor
&Land Surveyor
• Su BFi l.E
SUBMISSION WITHOUT COVER LETTER
DATE:
SENDER: Rt-chic Srao /Ds" Co_
SUBJECT: Hi5hpoio � at SOUtn Harbo -
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and not on South Harbor Road Aesr and Omparmta arpfbe rose Mr. a estetr!eY. • s when
housing development in Sotea.
to. "board members �Ir 'tax b34
Town Board members bowed to the wishes of 400 thaudt baaod itim
daers for t08
local residents who signed petitions circulated by the
South HarbirL6axvaew Residence Coalition in opposi-
tion to the 28-lot subdivision proposed by devetaper
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session. I ant not going to give you any hope on''
this;'Councilwoman Alice Hussie told'Mr Israel.*
the conclusion of his formal p ese oration in sapport cf
ora ort tilt nate the half-acre-lot sobdkisiat so HH
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acre residential. "The No, i criterion of 001 Towm
Braid doing a x e chingeis for the good and bena[tt wants.lud that's what the people want.
of the town." Ma Itassie "1 donot find*at ' t. It's too tied boomse this was a perfect
In agd'aion to sa�yit Xt the new tiousin&dcv*I* chance to do something for the young
man would itietease pressure on Sduthold's ached people of this town,and the old people.
system,Councilwoman Hussie stressed a belief that So I tried I don't think I'll ever try
there's no Mal"for additional dfadables.
Councilman Tan Wickham supported Ms.Humie's Councilman Joe Lizewski alone ex+
objection to the.pcopaaattbdtN4011$uve rOwlted s for the change of
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the creation of 14.a0brdablesad 14 market value bud# noting that"unless you have affords*
r4g inns."The dtmg ,that most concerns me about the food. sann}leS,lots.you're not going t#t
�tudable harsurg 7w the i*p'it`on the books; have affodable housing."
ha said:"'Basically,it's seryiag aS atn end rule sron9d And Judge Ray Edwards blasted the
the towa's twoo-A=zoning iwofchl we haw4 tried:ia coalition opposing the development as
establish." suffering from"the same old NIMBY
Mr. Israel attempted to counter that sentient by syndrome—I've go mine.and I dWt
asting,r"What impact will it bave when you remit d- ward Yours."The judge also suggestat
ford so live here?" that opponents purchasing the
But Mr. Wickham remained firm-in his conviction 17 1/2 acre tract of lijqaer farmland tg,
that "at the moment there art iharnanves,dihlirg; ensure iia press vii(W.
homes.available on the market within the bwe for "There's a;$oerditty we map '
young families iwawdgfmoble hoasirg.; thing"eoiditar asoutgook
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PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS w SCOTT L. HARRIS
Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman �' j ��' Supervisor
George Ritchie Latham, Jr. � �,'�(
Richard G. Warder Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
Mark S. McDonald P.O. Box 1179
Kenneth L. Edwards PLANNING BOARD OFFICE Southold, New York 11971
Telephone (516) 765-1938 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Fax (516) 765-1823
May 24, 1993
Alan Connell
USDA-SCS
Riverhead County Center
Room E-16
1 Center Drive
Riverhead, New York 11901
RE: Major Subdivision
Highpoint at South Harbor (aka D.B.M. Co. )
E/s South Harbor Road and w/s Main Bayview
Southold
SCTMI# 1000-75-4-22.14"
Dear Mr. Connell:
Enclosed please find a copy of the above mentioned proposed
subdivision. The applicant has proposed a design incorporating
the open space of the clustered subdivision with a building lot
(Lot Number 9) .
The Planning Board would appreciate your comments on the
suitability of the entire site for farming purposes.
Please contact Melissa Spiro of this office if you require any
additional information. Thank you in advance for your assistance.
Sincerely
Richard G. Wards
Chairman
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PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS w i SCOTT L. HARRIS
Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman Supervisor
George Ritchie Latham, Jr. :;��
Richard G. Ward rald Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
Mark S. McDonald P.O. Box 1179
Kenneth L. Edwards PLANNING BOARD OFFICE Southold, New York 11971
Telephone (516) 765-1938 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Fax (516) 765-1823
,v`1a.y X11 1993
James Richter, Road Inspector
Highway Department
Peconic Lane
Peconic, New York 11958
Dear Mr. Richter:
The Southold Town Planning Board hereby refers ,the
following application for your review.
Application Name: IA�t;til�
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Tax Map No. : 1000- 75- H -22. 1
Street Location: F/S moult, k',g6c.r -2A s n"h , 3,ty e.
Hamlet Location: A
Type of Application:
Sketch Subdivision Map (Dated
Preliminary Subdivision Map (Dated
Final Subdivision Map (Dated
Road Profiles (Dated
Gradin and Draina e Plans (Dated
X Other lc\ l'Ic r) (Dated q / ,77 / y3 )
Sketch Site Plan (Dated
Preliminary Site Plan (Dated
Grading and Drainage Plans (Dated
Other (Dated
Comments: y ao nUJ;�i nrc(u �r� dr■ nacn /�r n rr yr P4rQ
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PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS
SCOTT L. HARRIS
Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman Supervisor
George Ritchie Latham, Jr.
Richard G. Ward "�_ � Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
Mark S. McDonald P.O. Box 1179
Kenneth L. Edwards PLANNING BOARD OFFICE Southold, New York 11971
Telephone (516) 765-1938 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Fax (516) 765-1823
May 18, 1993
Richard Israel
443 Main Street
P.O. Box 2130
Greenport, New York 11944
RE: Proposed Major Subdivision
D.B.M. Company
(aka Highpoint at South Harbor)
Southold
E/s South Harbor Road, w/s Main Bayview Road
SCTM# 1000-75-4-22. 1
Dear Mr. Israel:
The Planning Board has received the 12 copies of the yield map,
the 12 copies of the sketch map and the Long Environmental
Assessment Form for the above mentioned proposed subdivision.
The Board will proceed with their review upon submission of the
application materials and application fee for the proposed
subdivision. Until receipt of these items, the application is
considered incomplete.
Please contact this office if you have any questions regarding
the above.
Sincerely, �f/
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April 16 , 1993
Mr. Richard G. Ward 0IIg3 �Ce o St4v\ i�
Southold Town Planning Board e�F jc" L rc- V�A '�TrceekoicI LJ11Ix
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Southold NY 11901
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Dear Mr . Ward : `I lob sub8 u s oNT
Mr . Herb Mandell of the DBM Company has supplied us with a map
requesting Public Water for 28 units off the east side of South
Harbor Lane, Southold.
Mr . Mandell will meet with the Utility Committee to determine
water load, water demand, pipe size, hydrant location etc .
When details have been completed with the Utility Committee,
the request will be forwarded to the Village Board of Trustees for
contract preparation. The contract will include all construction
standards and fees .
If I can be of further service, please call .
Sincerely, /vy,{,
Gm Zy ,..9 / ' `C
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James I . Monsell
Superintendent of Utilities
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pc: Mayor William R. Pell III
All Village Trustees
Utility Committee
Dan Ross , Village Attorney
Herbert Mandell
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creation two lots divided along the zoning bound Future
subdivisio the R-80 portion of the site wil ergo careful
delineation o the wetlands and detailed env' ental review.
The applicant s put forth a cove and restriction on
the LI portion of t site restrict' it from any further
subdivision. Any sit an subm' d for the parcel will
require wetland delineat depending upon the use and
design, mitigation may be ired.
Mr. Orlowski: Second
Mr. Ward: Moti seconded. All tho n favor?
Ayes: Mr. onald, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. La ,
. Edwards, Mr. Ward.
Mr ard: Opposed? Motion carried.
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Mr. Ward: At this time of the meeting we have an appointment
with Mr. Richard Israel to discuss the proposal for the
affordable housing project in Southold. Maybe you can answer
one question that we had, I guess the primary question was that
being you are outside of the half mile radius that the code
allows, under what section of the code would we address this?
Mr. Israel: Under the code it is suggested that it be within a
half mile of the hamlet but it is at the discretion of the Town
Board if they feel the site that has been selected is
appropriate. We try to find sites that the development will not
look odd in and yet will be in a residential neighborhood and
there aren' t many sites left which are not in the middle of farm
fields. I think when the code was written with the half mile
concept from the hamlets, it was meant not to taint a lot of our
green open space that you see on Route 48 and there are about to
become dense housing units. This particular site that we have
we are in a pretty much half acre neighborhood and it is pretty
much residential in that neighborhood if you look at the
surrounding areas. You have Grange Road to the north and as you
go down Bayview there are subdivisions that are quarter acre
or half acre subdivisions. We are within the reaches of public
water. This is to give the Board just a preliminary view of
what we have applied to the Town an application for this
particular development and it went into the Town last week which
through the routing system I guess eventually comes to you
guys. This is a parcel which is sided by two roads, Main
Bayview and South Harbor. We felt that South Harbor was the
quieter street and the nicer street and there is a cul-de-sac
which services most of the lots we have created a utility
easement and a water easement to bring water around to Main
Bayview and we are hoping in the future this is where the fire
SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNJV BOARD 14 APPO 12, 1993
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station is going to be, eventually we will be able to tie it to
the loop and not a dead end so we have created an easement here
which acts for two reasons. It gives people walking easement to
Main Bayview and it gives easement into the recharge basin and
water, electric lines and stuff to go all under ground to
service all the homes which are facing Main Bayview. The
general question is the half acre, I mean as far as half mile
out of the hamlet and again we are believers that the
subdivisions even though they are affordable subdivisions, to us
they are just taking Southold a little back in time and giving
local youngsters a chance to buy a piece of land and own a home
where they live and work.
Mr. Orlowski: What price range are you talking?
Mr. Israel: These will be lots that will be sold under the
affordable guidelines of Southold.
Mr. McDonald: How much is that now do you know?
Mr. Israel: My understanding it is, thirty-four thousand,
between thirty-four and thirty-five thousand dollars.
Mr. - McDonald: What is the present zoning there?
Mr. Israel: The present zoning here for no apparent reason is
R-80.
Mr. McDonald: Two acre now?
Mr. Israel: It is surrounded by R-40 for no apparent reason
except that it is previously developed that way.
Mr. McDonald: All of it is pretty much two acre except for a
Plock.
Mr. Israel: You don' t know what happens when you go down North
Bayview.
Mr. McDonald: That is Plock. That is one. You are right,
the rest I think is all two.
Mr. Israel: It seems that most of our zoning maps were done to
comply with existing zoning rather than future zoning when it
came to anything being under two acre.
Mr. McDonald: With the present state of things, you are in the
real estate business, how many acres is this parcel now?
Mr. Israel: This parcel I believe is eighteen acres.
Mr. McDonald: So, under the present zoning there would be at
the most nine lots. What do you think a two acre lot is worth
in there right now?
SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANN& BOARD 15 AP10 12, 1993
Mr. Israel: Would I be able to do a two acre lot or would it be
a one acre lot?
Mr. McDonald: No, in the market place not what would be
feasible for you.
Mr. Israel: A two acre lot today in the general market is
probably worth eighty-five thousand dollars.
Mr. McDonald: How far do you think this is from the nearest
shopping facility? For groceries, for baseline things, survival
items?
Mr. Israel: The closest commercial thing here I am going to say
is probably Feather Hill.
Mr. McDonald: Essentially the same as the Post Office you
think? I don't know how far it is from there to Peconic.
Mr. Israel: We clocked it both ways and it is exactly in the
middle. You are talking about, I think one way was a mile point
two and the other way was a mile and a half.
Mr. - McDonald: Do you know anything about bus routes in this
area?
Mr. Israel: Sure, there is a bus that goes down Main Road and
actually stops at the Gulf Station which is not too far from
here.
Mr. McDonald: Does anything go by this that you know of?
Mr. Israel: Well it won' t because there aren't any bus routes
that go down Main Bayview. You have to walk up to the Main
Road, you can walk up to the Main Road which is not too far up
South Harbor, that is where Catapano' s is.
Mr. McDonald: Do you know how far that is from there to the
corner of South Harbor?
Mr. Israel: I never measured it but I would assume that it is
less than a quarter of a mile.
Mr. McDonald: There are no sidewalks there or anything at the
present right?
Mr. Israel: No, there is basically no sidewalks in the Town
except for in the hamlet.
Mr. Ward: Have you checked with the Town in terms of the list
as far as the people that are interested in a project such as
this?
SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANN* BOARD 16 APPO 12, 1993
Mr. Israel: Well, my understanding is that the Town has been
advertising for the last three weeks for a list. My
understanding as of last Wednesday cause I asked Jim with their
advertising where they stand on a list and they say, we have
eleven applicant' s who have come to us and I said to him that
that is kind of silly because who would apply locally if there
are no projects even in the horizon? Since this has been in the
paper last week, I have gotten close to twenty people who are
Southold people who know Highpoint Meadows is a subdivision
and want to get onto a list to possibly buy a lot here. Again,
the same situation they have seen Southold Villas, they have
seen Cedarfields, they did not want to buy the built product
that was offered to them and want a chance to build on their own
the house that they would like. They are looking to buy the
land at a discounted price.
Mr. McDonald: How many units did you have in this?
Mr. Israel: This has twenty-eight units, fourteen of which
would be affordable. It is not a large subdivision in that
sense and I think that is what you are going to see. I think
four or five years ago we had a panic where nobody had a place
to live and we created Cedarfields and we created Southold
Villas, we created Highpoint Meadows, the Town did fifteen or
sixteen houses on their own. I think what you are going to see
now is just a steady need, you are not going to see this gross
need that we have previously where if you had a subdivision of
this nature that came to market every couple of years it would
surely meet the need and help our people stay here.
Mr. McDonald: So, every couple of years we need a project of
about this size do you think?
Mr. Israel: I would think that is probably true. Here we have
fourteen lots that would be affordable and I think if I had the
possibility I could sell them out all tomorrow.
Mr. Orlowski: You are just talking about selling the lots then.
Mr. Israel: In this concept we only talk about selling the lots
for two reasons. Number one, me and Herb live in the Town of
Southold, we have a reputation here and I cannot build the
product which is being built and still walk the streets.
Mr. McDonald: So, you don't feel that you could meet the
guidelines with the affordable if you had to build the houses?
Mr. Israel: That is correct. Not with all the costs that are
associated with subdivisions, not with all the costs that are
associated with building. As everybody knows and has read in
the paper, lumber has gone up by thirty percent in the last two
months for no reason that I know of. We don' t believe in
building minimum standard housing. We don' t want to build eight
hundred and fifty square foot houses. We don't feel they meet
SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNO BOARD 17 APO 12, 1993
the needs of the people occupying them. Most of them are young
families and most of them have one, two, three children and they
are currently living in parent's homes, they are currently
living in rentals, this or that. They are trying to muster up a
down payment on a house. Another complex issue of this is
again, you can' t build a house anywhere in the United States if
you don't have a down payment for it. This gives them an
opportunity if they can' t afford to build today, they can build
two years from now. They can pay down their land, their land is
still worth market value so it is going to give them the equity
to then go forth and go to a bank and borrow on the equity of
their land in. two or three years to build if they can' t afford
to do it today. As you know, mortgage banks don't want to
lend. I had a person who wanted to borrow a hundred thousand
dollar mortgage and he had to earn fifty-four thousand dollars
under one banks guidelines to afford a hundred thousand dollar
mortgage which is not an excessive mortgage today but under the
guidelines of twenty eight percent which a lot of banks are
holding to now because of Fanny Mae guidelines it comes out that
the person has to earn fifty-four thousand dollars to borrow a
hundred thousand dollars which is pretty sad. But, those are
things we cannot change.
Mr. McDonald: I assume that you intend this to comply with the
present guidelines in the code?
Mr. Israel: Correct, in every respect. I know that basically
fifty percent of this subdivision will be affordable housing or
affordable lots. I think that it is in a good area which may
bring some opposition from some people but that should go back
to our relative thinking of what affordable housing is.
Affordable housing does not have to be a slum or a segregated
area next to a railroad track, it should be housing that is
worth the same as the house next door and we have done that in
Highpoint Meadows where there is no division of bad side or
good side and actually it has turned out better than I ever
expected it to. I think everybody in that first stage was
wondering what is really going to happen here and I think if you
look at it today, it has turned out to be a very outstanding
community of Southold and homogeneous with Southold that you
can't tell it apart from Yennecott Park next door and I think
that is what you want your affordable subdivisions to do.
Mr. Ward: Any other questions from the Board? Thank you for
your presentation.
Mr. Israel: This is just a preview and it will go through the
normal process.
Mr. Hugh Conroy: May I speak? I live on Glenn Lane, off Main
Bayview in Southold. My apologies to the Board, I don't know
the protocol. I have listened to the proposal and I have seen
it and I would like the same consideration that was given to the
SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANK* BOARD 18 AP* 12, 1993
proposal. I have a few questions to the Board, to the Town and
to Mr. Israel himself. How can the proposal that was in the
Suffolk Times this week go to Scott Harris on a Thursday, last
Thursday, how can it be on, I don' t know the protocol, how can
it be on a Monday night and why did you go to Scott Harris
before the Planning Board? I don' t understand this.
Mr. Ward: Well basically, this is a change of zone which the
Town Board has jurisdiction on, they may ask the Planning Board
their opinion of it but the determination of whether the
affordable housing district is created is solely empowered by
the Town Board. Why are they here tonight is that they are at
the end of our agenda just as you are because we open our agenda
at the end of the meeting for anybody to address the Board that
wishes to address the Board.
Mr. Conroy: May I ask a couple of questions then? The area
is two acre zoning. Was the property bought at two acre zoning?
Mr. Ward: I would assume so.
Mr. McDonald: If they bought it, it was bought at two acre
zoning.
Mr. Conroy: That is what I bought mine at. I am down the
road.
Mr. McDonald: The present zoning is two acre.
Mr. Conroy: Is it in the Master Plan or before the Master
Plan, two acre?
Mr. Ward: Both.
Mr. Conroy: I can' t understand what and I am referring
specifically to the article in the Suffolk Times. Mr. Israel
constantly refers to selling the lots and letting the people
build afterwards. Is there any involvement or is there any net
gain for you at all? You are not going to build the building,
you are just going to sell the lots.
Mr. Israel: I cannot build the buildings to my requirements
under the affordable housing law.
Mr. Conroy: Can I ask some more questions?
Mr. Israel: Sure, I am not here to fight with you.
Mr. Conroy: Are there any other hundred thousand plus lots in
the Town of Southold, not the village, not around here, in the
Town of Southold because when I pass real estate agents it' s one
hundred and two, one hundred and ten.
Mr. McDonald: You mean a house?
SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANN* BOARD 19 APO 12, 1993
Mr. Conroy: Yes. So, why does the zoning code have to be
disturbed for this? I mean, I would like to live on Park Avenue
but I live in Southold but I do live in and I can' t live on Park
Avenue.
Mr. Israel: Do you know of any lots that can be bought for
thirty-five thousand dollars?
Mr. Conroy: Not any two acre lots.
Mr. Israel: How about a half acre lot.
Mr. Conroy: You are selling two acre lots and you are trying
to subdivide. Now, let me finish my question, I didn't disturb
you.
Mr. Ward: This is not really a debate tonight, I would
appreciate if you would just address your issues and I am really
not going to get into interaction at this point.
Mr. Conroy: I 'm sorry. A big question to me is how many
people from Highpoint and Southold Villas are in Southold
School District now that weren't in there before and how much is
that impacting the Southold School District? I know for a fact
how many children, because I have got three children in that
school district, how many kids are coming in because of these
developments and they are not coming in from the Southold School
District. Take a second to that, and I wonder why the
development is happening only in Southold School District. Are
they trying to capitalize on the school district? To quote Mr.
Israel, "I refuse to build minimum standards" . How do you all
of a sudden become a benefactor? You said the landowner would
become the builder. I don' t understand this reason and this is
all in the Suffolk Times. In the same article he suggested that
the Town float a bond to support public housing, if we don' t go
along with Mr. Israel, what is his next threat? Public Housing,
an authority telling who to live where, when and how? Are we
going to go to the Bronx and to Brooklyn and do this again? I
view it as a threat. Now, I will go further into this and what
I take as a real, real cheap shot to any property owner who got
in before the devaluation of property. Mr. Israel said in the
same Suffolk Times article. If ( inaudible) drop, which he says
happened because of his, because he is such a nice guy, there
would be more apartments for more people to live in. Did he
actually say because of his developments that quote, real estate
values have gone down in Southold, did you actually say you have
stolen those people who were saving to buy a hundred and eighty
to a two hundred thousand dollar house and never could have
attained them without your help? You have taken a hundred
buyers out of the market? Who are you to down zone because it
fits you? Finally, may I ask more questions? Besides you
goals, who stands to loose? Because you claim to down zone an
area that people bought into at two acres and plus, you want a
half an acre? Those who invested top dollars before the decline
SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANN* BOARD 20 APO 12, 1993
of value you take credit for in by building developments? Those
who might have inherited the valued property, you? Those who
paid Southold School District taxes, those who might have more
run off right in the creek at the end of that road if you look
at it on the map. Those who are going to have to negotiate more
traffic and (inaudible) . Or those, Mr. Israel, who will want
for your developments when the time is right for you to go into
high price housing and your profit is safely tucked away.
Gentlemen, thank you for your time.
Mr. Ward: Is there anybody else who would like to address the
Board this evening? Would somebody please knock on the door
there and let Mr. Cuddy know we are ready.
Mr. Wa Also tonight we have Charles Cuddy for
appointm t to discuss proposed Burger King site an.
Mr. Cuddy: his is Mr. Dennis who is the arc ' ect for Burger
King. Befor he gives you some plans, I jus wanted to hand you
two things whi would be helpful I think. ne of them is a
letter from the oning Board dated last w which says that we
comply substantia y with the plan that s submitted. I will
give you a copy of he letter. The oth document is from Mr.
Lessard which is a tification of t plan that we are going
to give you saying th it meets the oning code.
Mr. McDonald: Could you ell me what meeting they decided
this at?
Mr. Cuddy: I don't know. I ed them by letter and they
wrote back to me by letter.
Mr. McDonald: So, they h nev had this in public to discuss
whether it is in complia a or no that you know of.
Mr. Cuddy: I don't kn I assume hat the Board reviewed
this plan.
Mr. McDonald: You re assuming that th have met as a group
and have reviewed is and made a determi tion that it is in
compliance. I a just wondering when they id it, it usually
tells you the d e that they have done x, y nd z.
Mr. Cuddy: am not sure. The letter is sign by the
Chairman of he Zoning Board.
Mr. McDo d: I am particularly concerned that th would do
this an of copy us but that is not your problem o course.
Mr. C dy: I can't go from one Board to another and t 1 you
how ey work but I asked them to send us a letter and ey sent
a tter to us.
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now i•Ee{ cHd�rl6h ith• S,bdiy . \�y wttiL FRAME SHEDS
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339 g1 480'00 4 IJdP Goup{Y F71a DEVELOPMENT COMPLETED JANUARY 20, 1994 AND THAT ALL CONCRETE MONUMENTS
W Suffolk i ,^2 AREA 1 = N SHOWN THUS: ■ ACTUALLY EXIST AND THEIR POSITIONS ARE CORRECTLY4
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TQTAL REA 12.5472 ,aCRn / j ,% / 3 RESIDENTIAL LOW DENSITY A "R-80" @6
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A DECLARATION OF COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS HAS
' / BEEN FILED IN THE SUFFOLK COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE
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'SUBDIVISION MEAP OP
PROPTY SURVEYED FORS ON o
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•� / // / /' / N GEORGE A. STEPNOSKI" FILED IN THE OFFICE OF THE
Q / / / , 500 5 �'+ CLERK OF SUFFOLK COUNTY ON AUG. 3, 1992 AS
FILE NO. 9255.
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38,2p W OWNER:
,3• -.ow BAYVIEW SOUTH HARBOR LIMITED PARTNERS 6
200•,50 o 1450 SOUTH HARBOR ROAD
'j232 C. now or formerly souTHOLD, N.Y. 11971 ( Q e�
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Southold Fire District
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PJE� e) BAYVIEW SOUTH HARBOR
\Iff, LIMITED PARTNERSHIP
P At: SOUTHOLD Town of: SOUTHOLD
OPy�ee�� Suffolk County, New York
Suff. Co. Tax Map: 1000 75 4 22.1
DII Section 611 Lot
SEPT. 26,1994 6asq
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* AUG. 19,1994
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DATE :JAN. 20,1994 k
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/ 80078 s.f. S 84'4500 W r �� / 3. SUBJECT PARCEL DESIGNATED AS LOT 1 AS SHOWN ON
m 80000 S.f. i j 80070-5T. 173.00, / � "SUBDIVISION MAP OF PROPERTY SURVEYED FOR °
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GEORGE A. STEPNOSKI" FILED IN THE OFFICE OF THE
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APPLICANT:
D.B.M. COMPANY
1➢ 'j N \ � /O 443 MAIN STREET
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1 GREENPORT, N.Y. 11944
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1 qo now Or formerly 1. TOTAL AREA = 17.5473 ACRES a a,
4 2x Southold Fire District e1 2. TOTAL NO, OF LOTS = 9 e e
3. LINEAR FEET OF NEW ROAD = 370' pp �
11 �- Lot 2 5 Or 4. ZONING USE DISTRICT: 9 a
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Alden W. Young, Professional Engineer Fe Land Surveyor €S 4
Thomas C. Wolpert, Professional Engineer
gW.M., T Howard W. Young, Land Surveyor
Kenneth F. A6ruzzo, Land Surveyor
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4096eS '2
Lot 1 /
No. La
SubdlviSl County Fll Lot 3
Suffolk Let 4
Let 5
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❑ Lot 7
Lot 8
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_ S O 27 W �~ SUBDIVISION MAP OF PROPERTY SURVEYED FOR °
C�/ GEORGE A STEPNOSKI" FILED IN THE OFFICE OF THE
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9255FOLK COUNTY ON AUG. 3, 1992 AS
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APPLICANT:
70 D.B.M. COMPANY
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II 00 Op i W 5 �3 `�� \�� �`\ \�X GREENPORT, N.Y. 11944
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0-,5 2 now or formerly 1. TOTAL AREA = 17.5473 ACRES3
o >z Southold Fire District �gl 2. TOTAL NO. OF LOTS = 9a
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g € Thomnas C. WoEpert, ProfesstionaL Eng6neer
Kenneth F. A6ruzzo, Land Surveyor
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Suffolk tY Lat 4
Lot 5 �
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FILED N THE OFFICE OF THE
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9255FOLK COUNTY ON AUG. 3, 1992 AS
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APPLICANT:
8 I I 39T, I 50.0 5p\� II I D.B.M. COMPANY
O \ 443 MAIN STREET
I N 3245 s.£��� `� �� \ \
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- ' 1. TOTAL AREA = 17.5473 ACRES3
cL N now or formerly 2. TOTAL NO. OF LOTS = 9 �R e
Imp 2r Southold Fire District rel 3. ZONING USE DISTRICT: a �
o: Lot 2 e �'� EXISTING = R-80
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