HomeMy WebLinkAbout1000-70.-1-6 (2) MEADOW FARMS ASSOCIATES
P. O. Box 616
Southold, New York 11971
RECEIVED
APR 1. 5 986
April
14, 1986
Southold Town Board
Town Hall
Main Road
Southold, New York
11971
Re: Meadow Farms Zoning Application
Dear Supervisor Murphy and Board Members:
We her~eby request withdrawal of our application for rezoning
to the "M-l" zone for affordable housing for the project
known as "Meadow Farms".
Our original goal in applying for rezoning was to try and
supply moderate housing as soon as practicable to the
Southold community. In the summer of 1984, we correctly
realized that the Master Plan was not imminent, and that
the only way we knew to gain approval for affordable housing
within the existing ordinance was to ask for a rezoning to
"M-l" and use the existing preliminary guidelines for afford-
able housing as described in the Master Plan.
Our original goal is no longer a viable alternative in that
we are more than a year and a half from original submission
and still at "ground zero." The failure of the Town Board
to expeditiously review our Draft Environmental Impact State-
ment, as required by the regulations, has placed us man~ months
behind schedule. Our original submission of the Draft Environ-
mental Impact Statement to the Town, with a separate copy to
the Town's consultant, Mr. David Emilita, took place on
December 20, 1985. It appears, however, that it was not
reviewed until this month, almost four and one-half months
after the original submission, and now the Town finds the
Draft inadequate.
Southold Town Board
April 14, 1986
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While we still feel willing and capable of producing a
moderately-priced housing project on our site, we are
forced to await the completion of the Town's requirements
on affordable housing so as not to waste additional time
and money needlessly. If those guidelines and regulations
are completed within a responsible time frame, we may, at
that time, submit an application.
We hope that the TOWn, in completing the guidelines, will
not place affordable/moderate projects in the bureaucratic
quagmire we have just been through because our young people
may be old by the time affordable housing is available to
them.
Very truly yours,
MEADOW FARMS ASSOCIATES
Jo~O~ft~nf--
JUDITtl T. TERRY
TOWN CLERK
REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS
OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
APR 10 1986
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
TELEPHONE
(516) 765-1801
April 10, 1986
Meadow Farms Associates
Main Road, NYS Route 25
Post Office Box 616
Southold, New York 11971
Gentlemen:
Enclosed herewith is ~a resolution of the Southold Town Board,
adopted at their regular meeting held on April 8, 1986, requesting
you to resubmit ~an entirely new Draft Environmental Impact State-
ment with respect to your petition No. 268 for a change of zone
from "A" to "M" on 18 acres of land located on the westerly side
of Main Road, Southold. I believe the resolution is self-explanatory,
but should you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact
me.
I am also enclosing a copy of the memorandum from SzePatowski
Associates, Inc., dated March 28, 1986, relative to the DEIS.
Very truly yours,
Judith T. Terry
Southold Town Clerk
Enclosures
cc: D. Em. ilita
Planmng Board
JUDITI! T. TERRY
TOWN CLERI(
REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS
OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box I 179
Southold, New York 11971
TELEPHONE
(516) 765-1801
THIS IS TO CERTIFY THAT THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS ADOPTED BY THE
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD AT A REGULAR MEETING HELD ON APRIL 8, 1986:
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Southold, by not having caused to be
filed a notice of completion with respect to the Draft Environmental Impact State-
ment of Meadow Farms Associates, is still in the stage of review under Section
617.8(b) of the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation Rules
and Regulations, for determining whether to accept the draft as satisfactory with
respect to scope, content and adequacy of the submission, and
WHEREAS, opening the public comment period and holding a public hearing on the
submission, while premature, does not damage the process or preclude reinstituting
a more conforming procedure, now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the applicant, Meadow Farms Associates, be advised to resubmit an
entirely new Draft Environmental Impact Statement, complying with the Scoping
Session product, public hearing comments, and on the review of Szepatowski
Associates, Inc., and be it further
RESOLVED that at the time a new submission is made, it should be reviewed as to
scope, content and adequacy, before a subsequent review period and public hearing
is scheduled.
udith T. Terry ~__/
Southold Town Clerk
April 10, 1986
SZEPATOWSKI ASSOCIATES INC. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS
i RECEIVED
APR 4 1986
TOt Southold Town Board
FROM: Szepatowski Associates, Inc.
RE: Meadow Farms Change-of-Zone DEIS
DATE: March 28, 1986
Pursuant to your Resolution dated March 25, 1986, we have
completed our review of the above mentioned DEIS.
Before we begin our comments, a few prefacing remarks should be
made. In order to shorten the overall SEQR Process, it is
recommended that as soon as an EIS is received by a local lead
agency, the EIS be referred to whomever will be doing the EIS
review to determine its completeness and adequacy for review
before issuing a notice of completion and before opening the
public comment period. It serves no practical purpose to begin
reviewing an incomplete EIS, starts a protracted review process
of an inadequate document, requires supplements and addenda
which in many cases confuse the public and adds to the expense
of both the applicant and lead agency.
Further, there can be only one lead agency on a given action,
although there may be many involved agencies. The agencies
involved in issuing permits for a project should, prior to any
declaration of lead agency, determine who among themselves
should be the lead agency under SEQR. This allows for early
discussion of the project and provides an informal framework for
the formal SEQR procedure to follow.
Finally, there can be no final determination and findings until
all SEQR requirements have been met, all mitigation measures
included, or the project modified sufficiently to minimize
significant impacts. There can be no agency approval until the
findings are made by each involved agency. Thus in the Meadow
Farms case, the Town Board must make SEQR findings relative to
the change-of-zone and the Planning Board must make SEQR
fundings relative to the subdivision approval, all based on
fulfilling the SEQR requirements.
The DEIS has serious deficiencies to the point that no
intelligent decision can be made as to whether the development
is technically feasible, let alone what its environmental
impacts may be. Several serious omissions exist in the DEIS. A
discussion of demography and cultural resources is absent.
Significant impacts are possible in these areas. Schools and
community services, discussed in the Scoping Session, are not
mentioned. No alternatives to the proposed action are discussed
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in any meaningful way. Growth inducing aspects do not consider
the effect of expanding public water or providing additional
access along the parcel's northern boundary (mentioned on Page 3
only).
In short we find the DEIS grossly inadequate and incomplete.
Our specific comments are as follows:
Page 1 - The New York State Department of Transportation, the
Suffolk County Planning Commission, and perhaps the Village of
Greenport and the New York State Department of Environmental
Conservation should be added to the approving authorities.
Page 2-3 - There are no illustrations to locate the parcel or
describe the qualities mentioned. "Map ~l"is not included.
Page 4 - Mention is made of conceptual design layout and how
this shows the characteristics of the improvements and how they
relate to the site, the Master Plan, and Proposed Zoning
Ordinance, but it is not included. It should be or the reader
cannot verity the points being raised.
Page 5 - On the matter of maintenance by the Homeowners
Association, it is not demonstrated how this will result in
"lower operating costs to the individual homeowner" since cash
dollars must be outlayed for labor otherwise provided by each
homeowner himself. If the applicant is trying to foster
affordable housing this appears to be contradictory. It also
infringes on a homeowner's property right to maintain his own
lot as he sees fit. How this might make a dwelling unit more
saleable is not demonstrated, since on page 6, the sales program
is to be slanted to purchasers with basic carpentry skills. Why
a purchaser who could only afford an unfurnished dwelling would
want to pay a maintenance fee for lawn mowing is not clear.
Page 6-7 - It is stated that the one-bedroom units (without
stairs) are stated for elderly occupants. Why then do these
units have basements? Elderly housing units more typically have
all space needs provided for on one floor.
SZEPATOWSKI ASSOCIATES INC. ENVIRONMEN]AL CONSULTANTS
Page 7 - The prices stated would appear to be regarded as
"affordable". However, a firmer description and understanding
of the applicant's commitment to a pre-determined pricing
schedule is needed. It must be binding and enforceable by the
Town of Southold. Indexing for increasing costs must be agreed
to in advance. The mention of six months is confusing. Does it
mean a fixed price for six months or an indexed price for six
months? No mention is made about to whom the units would be
offered or resale of the units. These are of prime concern
since the reason for changing the Zone in the first place is
affordable housing for local people.
The paragraph describing water fees is confusing. Is it $2,700
per unit? How does this equate to reductions in water fees?
The rental offer is worthy of consideration, but like the sales
proposition, eligible renters, lease conditions, sub-leasing and
other matters of concern need to be detailed and made enforce-
able by the Town.
Page 8-9 - Careful consideration must be given to the pavement
widths suggested. Drainage should in no way be compromised as
the pavement will soon deteriorate if drainage is inadequate.
On-street parking should be prohibited as well as off-street
parking in the minimum front yard requirement.
Under the heading of storm water drainage, water supply, sewage
treatment and landscaping are all discussed in a very
superficial way.
Compliance with SCDHS standards would be expected of any
development, this one is no different. No technical studies are
offered to substantiate whether any of the systems proposed are
even feasible on this site, let alone what their environmental
impact might be. This entire development may not be feasible
without the approvals of each of the municipal agencies cited.
Page 10 - The discussion on construction and operation is too
general and vague to be of any use in discussing the project,
its impacts or mitigation measures. The list of approvals is
incomplete as previously mentioned.
Page 10-11 - Soils are described per SCS studies, but are not
mapped, nor are borings shown.
Page 11-12 - No topography is shown.
Page 11 - Groundwater resources are described in general but no
attempt has been made to relate this to the proposed
development.
Page 18 Public water supply system expansion is assumed
without documentation. There will be a decrease in wildlife
food sources as well as a loss wildlife due to being permanently
dislocated from their present sites. Groundwater impacts are
not quantitied nor is their effect on private wells discussed.
No municipal or community impacts are discussed.
Page 23-24 - Open space and wildlife impacts are discussed and
vague mitigation measures proposed but no locations, types,
quantities of effectiveness is estimated.
SZEPATOWSKI ASSOCIATES INC. ENVIRONMEN]AL cONSULTANts
The remainder of the non-traffic elements of the DEIS are
inadequate due to their dependance on the superficiality of the
previous sections.
To summarize, we find that no decision can be made relative to
SEQR based on the DEIS. The Scoping Product has not been
followed. Virtually a complete new DEIS would be needed to
satisfy the concerns we have raised. A severely inadequate
environmental review is not recommended to begin the Town's
implementation of an affordable housing policy. It sets a bad
precedent and may be intenable in judicial review setting all
parties back at least a year. We recommend a new draft
environmental impact statement.
I/-
SZEPATO%~/SKI ASSOCIATES INC. ENVIRONMEN]'AI_ CONSUL'EAN]'%
Mrs. Judith T. Terry
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January 23, 1986
Additionally, there are initiatives underway in Southold in
which the town purchases property from tax foreclosures using
Community Development funding. The homes or homesites are then
made available to residents as affordable housing. The
properties are located on scattered sites throughout the town, do
not change the character of existing neighborhoods, and do not
require a change in zoning classification.
While clearly there is a need to provide affordable housing,
just as clearly there is no longer a need for massive downzonings
to achieve this goal.
The proposed site of Meadow Farms is north of the Main Road,
opposite the headwaters of Jockey Creek. I challenge members of
the town board to walk this rolling meadow, bordered by orchards,
and visualize 72 housing units, roads, and parking lots
despoiling the beauty of the landscape.
A proposed water supply well on the property has been found
to be contaminated with both nitrates and pesticides, rendering
it unusable as a source of public supply unless extensive
treatment is employed. High density housing on the site will
result in contaminants from the sewage disposal system leaching
to groundwater and being discharged to Jockey Creek. If
developed under the current zoning, only nine homes could be
built and sewage contaminants would be appreciably less.
Examination of the facts reveals that there is no urgency
for the town to downzone A-residential property to multiple
dwelling use. Using the concept of affordable housing as an
excuse to provide a windfall for developers is not a
justification. There are better, less damaging ways to provide
opportunities for affordable housing without sacrificing
Southold's environment and rural quality of life.
Very truly yours,
Martin Trent
MT/lst
cc
Members of the Southold Town Board
Members of the Southown Town Planning Board
The Suffolk Times
Long Island Traveler Watchman
JUDITH T. TERRY
TOWN CLERK
REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS
OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
NAR 2 1986
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 728
Southold, New York 11971
TELEPHONE
(516) 765-1801
March 26, 1986'
Meadow Farms Associates
Main'Road, NYS Route 25
Post Office Box 616'
Southold, New York 11971
Gentlemen:
This is to advise you that the Southold Town Board, at their
regular meeting held on March 25, 1986:, adopted a resolution direct-
ing Town Planner David Emilita to revieW the comments with respect
to the Draft Environmental Impact Statement regarding your change
of zone petition.
The resolution further states that the actual expense to the Town
for this review shall be paid to the Town by Meadow Farms Associates
prior to the issuance of a building permit,'
Very truly yours,
$outhold Town Clerk
cc: David Emilita
Planning Board
PUBLIC HEARING
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD
March 11, 1986
8:00 P.M.
IN THE MATTER OF THE DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT SUBMITTED
BY MEADOW FARMS WITH RESPECT TO THEIR PETITION FOR A CHANGE OF ZONE.
Present:
Supervisor Francis J. Murphy
Justice Raymond W. Edwards
Councilman Paul Stoutenburgh
Councilman James A. Schondebare
Councilwoman Jean W. Cochran
Councilman George L. Penny IV
Town Clerk Judith T. Terry
Town Attorney Robert W. Tasker
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: It's now 8:00 P.M. and we'd like to hold a public hearing
on the Draft Environmental Impact Statement submitted by Meadow Farms Associates.
Jay Schondebare will do the official reading.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: "Notice is hereby given that the Town Board of the
Town of Southold will hold a public hearing at 8:00 P.M., Tuesday, March 11, 1986
at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York, on the Draft Environ-
mental Impact Statement submitted by Meadow Farms Associates, with respect to their'
petiti°n for a Change of Zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural District to "M"
Light Multiple Residence District, PetitiOn No. 268, on certain property located on
the westerly side of Main (NYS Route 25) Road, south of Tuckers Lane, Southold,
New York, consisting of 18 acres. Petitioner is 'desirous of having the zoning status
of the property changed to permit the development of an affordable housing program
with a density of four units per acre. SEQR lead agency is the Southold Town Board.
A copy of the Draft Environmental Impact Statement is on file in the Office of the
Southold Town Clerk, Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York, and is available
for inspection during regular business hours. Dated: February 4, 1986. Judith T.
Terry, Southold Town Clerk."
I have an affidavit from The Long Island Traveler-Watchman indicating that that
was published by their paper. I have an affidavit of publication by The Suffolk
Times indicating that the notice was published in their paper. I have an affidavit
by the Town Clerk that she posted said notice on the Town Clerk's Bulletin Board.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you, Jay. You've heard the official reading of the
notice of this public hearing. Is there anybody here representing the petitioner
who would like to address the Board?
WILBUR KLATSKY: Ladies and gentlemen of the Town Board, Supervisor Murphy,
my name is Wilbur Klatsky, I'm a City Planner and represent Meadow Farms Associates.
We are here this evening only to make brief comment and basically to monitor and
listen to the public comment concerning the Draft Environmental Impact Statement
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prepared for Meadow Farms by the Land Use Company. I would like to just for the
record indicate that we have had a rather lengthy period to study the land and meet
as early as February of 85. I had numerous meetings with the Planning Board, and
from those meetings, and also to address the affordable housing needs that were out-
line in the Master Plan we submitted an application to the Town Board for this subject
change of zone in February of 1985. After that the application was referred back to
the Planning Board for their comments. The Planning Board made a positive recommenda-
tion in July of 1985 to approve the subject application. The Town Board which accepted
lead agency status requested we have a scoping meeting for the development of the
environmental impact statement. We had that meeting on 9/24/85, and the envirOnmental'
impact statement was submitted to the Town Clerk December 20th, 1985 and we are here
tonight to make a few brief comments, but basically we'll listen. The Draft Environ-
mental Impact Statement and the proposed zoning change is basically in conformance
with the standards established within the Master Plan and the proposed Zoning Ordinance
now being considered by the Town Board. It falls within the Hamlet Dis[rict. It falls
within the proposed Hamlet Densities, and accordingly is completely consistent with that
plan and we think admirably it addressed the problems in relation to the making avail-
able of affordable house. The environmental impact statement as we know the process,
is submitted to permit an ample time for public comment as well as agency comment
from the various agencies, and tonight represents in some respects the culmination of
that process in the establishment of a public hearing to hear the public at large in
relation to the statement. It is our understanding that following this 'meeting the
Town Board, which is the lead agency, will develop a list of any additional questions
the feel they want the applicant to respond to and the applicant will; of course,
respond immediately to its application and try to secure a final statement from the
Town Board in order to permit the applicant to proceed with this appliCation. for a
zoning change and to permit at ~that point to seek site plan approval from the Planning
Board. Again; we're not here tonight to answer questions. We're simply here to
listen and we thank the Board for their time and their effort on our behalf. Thank
you.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you, sir. Okay, is there anyone else would like to
address the Town Board who's in favor of this proposed application, or would like
to speak on behalf of the applicant? Sir?
DAVID AVERETTE: I was a resident of Southold for 30 years. I work for my
parents.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: What's your name?
DAVID AVERETTE: David Averette. They're talking about condos here that are
probably the density--I don't know what it is, but it's quite a bit. It's just that
they're all next to each other. That doesn't look like the kind of place I grew up
in, because I grew up in Southwood Estates, which was one acre zoning, I think.
It's quite a lot. Didn't help the pollution with the underground water system,
because the more property people keep taking down for one acre, two acres, they
keep planting more grass, put more nitrates into with their underground irrigation
systems, they're defeating your own purpose. It doesn't make any difference. Theirs
is a big dance, I would say. Seventy-two units is quite a bit. They're not going
to get 72 young people moving out from I don't know where to live out here, because
there's no place to work. We can't find workers in our store. Where they going to
live? This accessory apartment thing is ridiculous. I don't think--how many people
applied for it so far? It's not going to work. There's apartments out there for
$600 a month. Nobody's taken them because they can't afford it because we can
only pay a certain amount of wages out here with the income we get in. My parents
can only pay a certain amount. We can't pay somebody $40,000--$50,000 a year they
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need to buy a house out here. Now, forcing people to buy two acres is almost like
me saying, Okay, I want you to buy this luXury Cadillac that's made in'the United
States whether you can afford it. It's not right. You know? No one's making
$40,000. That's my point. It takes almost $50,000 a year to buy a house and land
out here. Where do you expect these people to get it from? There was a good
article in Newsday the other day what we're competing with. People in rent controlled
apartments in the city making $60,000 a year, putting $40,000 down on houses out
here competing with us. We can't do it. And they want people to come and mow
their lands. They want developments here, but what are they going to do about the
young people? Where do they want us to live? They want people to mow their lawn
to be brought in on buses or what? It's just totally ridiculous and I'm sick of the
whole thing. They can pump all the water they want out of this damn ground that
I've lived on for 30 years. Came out of the service and found out I couldn't live
here any more, so I live in Riverhead, and they can pump it out in their underground
irrigation systems and water their damn green lawns, and I can't have a quarter acre
of my own and wash my family with it. Screw the whole Town. And the Farmland
Preservation Act. The farmers can't afford to farm. What are you going to do with
it? Look at their land? Come on. That's an economic problem. Housing isn't
crunching out the farmer, the farmers would never sell their land if they could
afford to make a living. And I've lived out here all my life and I'd like to know
where the "ourj' people ~are. "Our" this and "our" that. I've lived out here all
my life. My grandparents lived out here all their lives. They came from Poland
and ran farms out here. And they clustered before any of you people thought
about it in Polish Town. They build their houses next to each other and left all
the space open. You people came out and wanted one and two acres, three acres,
and use it all up. Why didn't you stay in one little spot? No. Now there's no
land left as far as I'm concerned and it doesn't make any difference with the develop-
ments I seen. Ore development wants curbing. They want it to look rural. What is
rural? When I grew up the same things that are here now were here then. When my
grandparents grew up. You just want to stifle the whole thing. I don't know what
it is. Where do you expect these people to get the money? And the fact is most of
you can't buy your own houses back. You're rubbing your equity in our faces like
some kind of joke. I just can't take it any more. I'm probably the youngest one
here. None of my friends live-in this Town any more. They can't afford it.' They' re
not going to mow your lawns for nothing and if they do they're going to charge you
outrageous prices; they can live here and then you're going to complain about the
price they're charging you. So it's just going to come right back to you. That's
all it's going to do. Eventually you're going to be just like some of the places I
worked down in Florida, with a bunch of old people sitting around and throwing the
dice. You know? So whatever you guys decide there's got to be some housing out
here. Not just apartments.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you. Is there anyone else would like to address
the Town Board in favor of this proposal? (No response.) Is there anyone would
like to speak in opposition to this Draft Environmental Impact Statement on the
proposed zone change? In the back.
RUSSELL MANN: My name is Mann, Russell Mann. First I want to say that I am
not opposed to affordable housing. I think there are better ways of getting afford-
able housing than down-grading from two acre to quarter acre zoning. And 72 houses
on 18 acres, after you take out what you need for the streets, isn't even going to be
quarter acre. You're going to be on less than a quarter of an acre. We've heard
that we want to preserve our rural environment. Over and over again. Open space.
And we have water problems. We have sewer problems. If you put 72 units on 18
acres you're not going to help these problems. I have here--this is Suffolk County
Department of Health Services--this is a Realty Subdivision and Development Environ-
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mental Assessment Questionnaire. These are the questions that they ask. Will
the project result in a large physical change to the project site - physically alter
more than 10 acres of land? I'm not going to answer these. You can answer them
yourselves. Will"the project alter or have any effect on an existing body of water?
I have had it speculated that the cesspools might drain into Jockey Creek. I don't
know that they will. Will the project have a potentially large impact on groundwater
quality? I can't answer that either, but it certainly seems that it might. Will the
project result in a major adverse effect on air quality? Well I don't know whether
72 oilburners and 72 automobiles going in and out are going to have a major adverse
effect, but it could have some. Will the project have a major effect on the visual
character of the community? I don't think there's any question about that. Will the
project result in major traffic problems or cause a major effect on existing trans-
portation systems? You have 72 dwellings, all of which would probably have at least
one vehicle entering and leaving the Main:Road on one single 100 foot access. That
seems to be a problem. I could go on and read the rest of these, but I don't want
to bore you to death. I am very seriously opposed to this and I think I've made my
reasons clear and I hope the Board will take my thoughts into consideration and I
thank you for listening to me for this length of time.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you. Anyone else over here? Jim?
JAMES BITSES: Granting this "M" zone in this particular case would be tantamount
to creating a future slum. The so-called Iow cost housing that's going to be produced
is merely a gimmick, just as Founders Village had a gimmick that they were building
houses for the elderly. They will promise Iow prices, but they will charge high prices
because we have seen what happened in Founders Village. The construction will be as
cheap as possible, because that's how builders make a profit- by cheating the person
who buys the building from them. Once the siding is on the building and once the
wallboard is up you don't know what you're buying, but I have built houses in this
Town, not too many, but I have built a few and I know what I'm talking about. Any-
thing that a builder can swindle on he will, because it goes into his pocket~ and nobody
is the wiser for at least three or five years. Now besides cheap construction, particle
board and hemlock--George, you know what hemlock is. They used to call it screw
pine. Besides that there are no fire stops because there's no fire stop statute in
this Town. And worst of all, there are no garages. I commend you gentlemen to
go over to Founders Village and take a look at which I call auto pollution. Cars parked
all over the place and Founders Village is not yet fully occupied. When it is it will'
look like a parking lot and it will not look like Southold. This is guaranteed, as
Founders Village, to destroy any kind of small town ambiance that we have at the
present time. It will increase taxes, because it is well known that developers of this
type use up more of the Town facilities then they contribute in taxes. They use more
roads, more police, more fire services, and most imPortant of all more water use. They
will contaminate the groundwater in PerPetuity with human feces. And when I say
human feces, I include the bacteria in human feces and the parisites in human feces.
And when you have water rings, ladies and gentlemen, what you are doing is stealing
water from one part of the Town to deliver it to another part of the Town that is not
supplying its own water. You have the spectacle of pump fields throughout the Town,
water being shipped to Greenport to support quarter acre lots in Greenport, or quarter
acre lots in this "M" zone and other "M" zones like it. You have the further spectacle
of a carcinogenous chemical called chlorine being dumped into the water and this water
with the dead contaminants, the dead ecoli bacteria, the dead parasites, and the traces
of human feces are pumped back to the rest of the Town and drunk by the people who
drink piped water in this Town. Now, there are certain primal rules that are followed
in Bermuda, because Bermuda is a small island surrounded by salt water, and these
cardinal rules also affect this Town, because we, in effect, are a small island. In
Bermuda, as in this Town, each house must provide one or two acres of water shed
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or at least provide a surface on its roof so that it can fill its own cistern. Why?
Because the water in Bermuda, as in this Town, comes from the sky. It falls from
the sky. It's filtered by the ground. It's pure. Our reservoirs are beneath our
feet. And it is pure while it is there, until We start to contaminate it. Now, when
you have a density of this type, you have a tremendous contaminate load that cannot
be cleared by the natural filtering action of the sand and gravel beneath our feet.
So consequently if there was any logical policy in this Town, it would require that
each house could provide its own watershed area, one to two acres. Each house
must provide one to two acres of filtration. There must be a distance between the
well and the cesspool. The law says a hundred feet, I say a hundred and fifty feet,
because traces of contaminates are found in wells, but they are within tolerable
limits. In other words, you can drink sewage, my friends, as long as they're within
tolerable limits. The simple solution is to extend this to a hundred and fifty feet,
but nobody wants to do that for economic reasons. So we hang on to that one hundred
foot. In this case there's no such thing as one hundred foot. The water comes in
in pipes stolen from other parts of the Town and the contaminates go straight into
the groundwater to contaminate everything to the south. The water dome flow is
from the north to the south in that area and it may possibly reach Jockey Creek--
it will probably reach Jockey Creek. Three, the water mains steal water from one
part of Town and deliver water to high density areas. I have told you about the
distance of the wells. Now, if you grant--I'm not against "M" zones per se. But
when you grant a density of this sort, and when you allow houses to be built close
to town, in this density, you are merely following a formula that made sense in the
1800's and 1900's when people had to walk to various places. We don't travel that
way any longer. In fact, you are creating a focus--a traffic focus as well, as Russ
pointed out before. You are creating a traffic focus and you are c, reating incipient
traffic jams. You must have garages for every house, because by their nature cars
drip oil on the road and the rain washes it into the ground and we drink it five years
down the line. All these reasons, very good and logical reasons, militate against the
granting of this particular "M" zone in this particular location. Gentlemen, I beseech
you to stop destroying the Town. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you, Jim. Is there anyone else would like to speak
in opposition to this? Sir.
ROBERT PRITCHARD, Main Road, Southold: Now I've lived on Main Road for the
past over 20 years at Tuckers Lane, on the turn down there. I don't know if you
are familiar with the situation there with the traffic coming around there at all hours
of the night. The accidents that have taken place down there, and what the traffic
is now and getting to be even worse during the summer. You cannot pour traffic
from 72 homes into Main Road on a Saturday and Sunday without causing havoc. It's
going to be murder. Not only that, I would like to expound also on the other con-
ditions where it's located. It's not feasible, as far as I'm concerned, as they said,
did you ever drink Greenport water? Any of you people have Greenport water?
What does it taste like, Greenport water? I have Greenport water. You like rusty
clothes when it comes out of the laundry. We all know this, right? Now you're
going to tell me you're going to supply them with water down there when Greenport
can't even supply decent water now? Forget it. The whole thing. Not only that,
taxes. What's going to happen to the taxes? Are the taxes going to stay the same
as they are now? No way. The taxes are going to go up. I'm not against Iow
housing, but not in this area. Not only that, but I think the people who's going
to move into there are not going to be able to afford to pay the rent that they're
going to have to pay there. The mortgages. They can't pay it in Shirley. They
can't pay it in Mastic. How are they going to pay it here with the taxes rising
the way they are? That's about all I have to say. I do not go along with it one
iota. Thank you very much.
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SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you. Is there anyone else would like to speak?
Ruth.
RUTH OLIVA, North Fork Environmental Council: We're not here to comment pro
or con on this proposal at this time, because that would come before a change of
zone. This is primarily for the Draft Environmental Impact Statement. We've read
the Draft Environmental Impact Statement and found it 'to be rather sloppy. There's
just not enough information in it, I do not believe, to determine whether this will
have an affect on the environment or not. First of all I would not even consider
this that they mentioned the thing of affordable housing. This is 'getting, I know,
into a planning stage, and yet I feel that the Town Board, in their 'need to determine
where to put affordable housing, may have to kind of take some of this planning into
their considerations. But for two bedroom at $73,500, and a one bedroom at $61,000
I do not consider that moderate income, Iow moderate income. It's certainly on a
higher level. And they would just reduce 10% of the homes--in other words, seven
of them, $10,000. And this price will only hold for six'months. I think they should
have listed the alternatives as to two acre zoning, what the affect of that would be
and also they are planning on having four units per acre, with water and sewer.
Now they do not have the water available even to feed into the Greenport system,
because I have a letter here from the Department of Health saying that analysis~
indicate nitrate and pesticides levels consistently in excess of State standards and
guidelines. So, therefore, it would cost quite a bit of money for them to treat the
water and then feed that into the Greenport system. And as you know, Greenport
is really having problems with their own system. They are going to have to spend
a great deal of money just to upgrade what they have, let alone to expand it. And
from the figures that were presented last night to the Utilities Committee, starting
a new well will cost Brecknock, I believe it is $249,000 and for Costello perhaps
maybe $349,000. And there's no assurity even in there that you will be able to
retain a high production. So they're going to have to rely on Greenport for water.
Sewage. What are they going to do for the sewage? I do not believe that this has
been discussed fully. I'd like to see some sort of a letter from the Department of
Health stating what type of sewage that they would recommend or they would require.
Is it going to be denitrification, which I believe Bob Villa, before the Housing
Committee, had some questions about. Or cesspools or what? There was no mention
of storm runoff or control from impervious surfaces. I believe soil testing should
be made. This is at the head of Jockey Creek. This was not mentioned. Also,
of course, there would be a decrease in groundwater quality due to a sewage system
if it was there. I think that should be mentioned, even though it is contaminated
at this point. Also, to contain this storm runoff, as to how many inches of rain
would be the requirement. Didn't see that. Is there going to be an underground
irrigation system needed? The traffic. There is to be one ingress and one egress
for 72 homes. He stated there would be an emergency exit to the north and yet I
believe the developer--Mr. Mann says there is not going to be any emergency exit
to the north. So these are just some of the things that I think should be answered.
And just one little funny one I thought was that they said there would be an increase
in wildlife food sources if this thing was developed, which I question. So, thank you
very much.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: The racoons like garbage cans. Anyone else? Sir;
CHRIS BAIZ: My family lives in the east end of Southold, however, I happen to
be one of the contiguous owners to this proposed development site. I have several
points I'd like to make. First of all, in the overall application I consider that there
is a lack of full disclosure of all the principals involved in Meadow Farms Associates.
No where in the document on file here with the Planning Board is the individual who
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lives at 145 Schooner Road here in Southold, and I don't know how many other
principals or partners there are in this, so i'm concerned about the lack of disclosure
there. The second thing that I am concerned about is that in February of last year
when the efforts were made to notify the various people in the area, either contiguous
or within the 500 foot radius, or what have you, of the property, first of all I, as a
new owner there, but prior to the filing of this plan and prior to even the ownership
of this land by Meadow Farms Associates, was a landowner there. I also know that
the property to the south of the proposed development site, the landowner there,
during this time, had been John Wickham and he was certainly not one of the principals
notified. I've checked with his family this afternoon. He has now passed that property
on to a third party and I know they're not here tonight to be able to represent their
own interests. I spoke also to another individual who happens to own the farm right
across the railroad tracks from the development site, on the north side of the railroad
tracks there. I notice that the notice was sent out to Clem Booth who is deceased by
several years now. In fact that property has changed hands twice since his death
and is currently owned by Dave Mudd. Dave was only aware of the proposed develop-
ment. He was not aware of the meeting tonight, because I spoke with him about 5:30
this evening. He had another meeting and he could not be here. So in terms of
getting to the people, especially the contiguous landowners, I don't think they have
been properly notified with regard to this meeting tonight or with regard to any of
the proposed zone change here. I've only had about forty-five minutes this afternoon
driving out from New York, to which I could sit down and read the files on this
proposal. The other issues I've got specifically with the development. I think that
affordable housing is a valid argument. I'm not sure that this site would be affordable
housing for the next generation as time goes on. Certainly we have to meet current
issues as they develop. Some of my concerns simply revolve around land values
around this development site. If we in turn, as contiguous owners, are restricted
to future restrictions on our ability to subdivide parcels down to something equivalent
to an "M" rating. That's all I have to say. If there's anybody who can address some
of these questions at a future date I'd be glad to write the Board or what have you.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you. Okay, is there anyone else? In the back.
JOEY VUEN: i've just recently bought a home here. I live in New York City,
and I live right in the middle of New York City and if you people think it's nice,
it's not. It's horrible. But I also want to tell you that I'm now sorry that I came
and bought a house on the Main Road, because what you are planning to do is just
where I'm living now in the city. You're starting and you have a time bomb. I
don't know much about this area, but I do know that common sense tells you that
72 houses on 18 acres is absolutely suicidal. You people must have your heads
examined. I mean, I don't know if you fell asleep and then you woke up and said,
these young people have no where to live, but this isn't it. And so close to town.
I cannot back out of my driveway now. It's totally impossible for me to believe
that you want to put that much housing in such a small area, and then you want
to preserve water, you want to preserve animals, you want to preserve the beach,
you want to preserve the land. This is certainly no way to do it, and I'm sorry,
but you people will ask yourselves in ten and fifteen years, what did I do? Thank
you.
KATHERINE MITCHELL: I come from a two generation family in the same house on
the Main Road. We are totally disappointed with what is happening. We are concerned
because our children can't even cross the road anymore. They can't go out to meet
their friends anymore. This will bring in more and more traffic causing endangerment
to our children. We are living in a house now that we hear traffic going up and down
24 hours a day now as it is. I don't think we can tolerate much more traffic. Especially
at night when you're trying to get some sleep also. But we are concerned as a two
generation family living at the same house. We'd like to stay there for a little while
longer. Thank you very much.
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SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you. Is there anyone else would like to address the
Board ?
JOHN SKABRY, Peconic: Mrs. Mitchell and Cliff are very good friends of mine and
I couldn't believe it when I found out that they were going to attempt to build a 72
house development with the entrance right across the street from them. Maybe--I
hope I can give you some information that would be helpful. In 72 I was the Post
Commander at the Legion and we had a number of accidents on the front lawn, just
a couple hundred feet from the entrance, and we investigated it down there and we
got the State to make some changes on the signs on the highway, but the Commissioner
of Transportation--New York State road it is~-said the only way to eliminate the
problem--believe it or not--George---believe it or not in Southold Town this was the
13th--number 13 as far as auto accidents in the whole County. This intersection of
Tuckers and the Main Road where you're talking about having a 72 home development
was the 13th in number of auto accidents in this County. It's no place for the
entrance for 72 cars to try to get on the road. That's all I have to say.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you. Is there anyone else would like to address the
Board? Jean?
JEAN TIEDKE: At the risk (~f losing a couple of friends in the audience I would like
to say that I think that this is a plausable area for development of moderate--I'm not
saying affordable, but moderate housing. I do think there are a number of problems
that should be settled before that happens, and certainly one of them is the traffic.
Egress and ingress on Route 25 would be, I think, terrible. It would be very
dangerous. If there is any way he can get some kind of a right-of-way over to
Tuckers Lane where traffic could go. Nonetheless, we do need some affordable or
moderate housing in Town. I think that the idea of modular duplexes is'a novel one
for this Town, but I think it's one that we should not throw down the drain. I also
think that they should be duplexes, not houses. I think that they should be some
of them larger than what appears to be recommended. I do think that the Land Use
Company did a pretty sloppy job, including grammatical errors, spelling errors,
omissions and typos all over the place. If their information is 'as sloppy as their'
report looks, they better do it .over. I would oppose what appears to be extensive
regrading of that property, and I'm very familiar with the property, because my aunt
was Mrs. Young and the owner of that house is here tonight, and I can remember
spending five minutes many, many times trying to get out on to the Main' Road and
never, never backing out on to the Main Road. You drive out head first. I would
certainly recommend the density be reduced. I think that 72 units on 18 acres is
indeed too much. I think that the proposal of the Land Use Company to regrade the
whole thing--I may have misread--but my impression was that they wanted to make
it look like a little fancy park outside of New York City, which is not what we want.
But I do think that the proposal should be reconsidered and perhaps go forward.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you. Is there anyone else? Russ?
RUSSELL MANN: I hate to take the stage twice. I really don't hate to take it twice.
I hear this business about access from Tuckers Lane. Well I guess by now everybody
knows that I have several acres immediately north of the land from Meadow Farms
Associates. Now when I bought the land the Planning Board asked me if I would
accept two acre zoning, which I really wasn't ready to do but I did. So now I have
two acre zoning. I'm not about to have a road going through the middle of it that's
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going to cut the value of the land down tremendously. If somebody wants to buy
the whole thing for my price then they can build a road. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Anyone else want to comment to the Town Board?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Mr. Mann, can we establish that the property between
the Terry Court and the proposal that we have before us is owned by you, as I look
at the map?
MR. MANN: Yes.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Terry Court and the proposal, you own that land?
MR. MANN: Yes.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: And you're not about to give an easement over that
land for this project?
MR. MANN: No, it's going to make a tremendous impact on the value of the land.
I hope to retire on what I can sell off there and I'm going to need it.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: We'll see you later on.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay, anyone else? Jean?
JEAN TIEDKE: I misspoke. I meant Ackerly Pond Road, not Tuckers Lane.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any other comments? (No response.) Okay, at this time
we'll close the hearing.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: I have a question, Frank. To the applicant. On the
road itself. Is it the proposal for a right turn lane and a left hand turn lane on
Route 25?
MR. KLATSKY- I'm sorry, what's the question?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: On Route 25, is it the proposal a left hand turn lane
and a right hand turn lane to be in existence?
MR. KLATSKY: That would be required by DOT I believe.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Okay. And have you received any communications
from the DOT with regards to that?
MR. KI-ATSKY: We have and we have responded and gotten further information on
having to deal with that intersection.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Is that road wide enough to allow for two turning
lanes, left hand turning lane and a right hand turning lane and the thru lane?
MR. KLATSKY: By DOT standards, yes, and with some provision to eliminate
some parking at the access.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any other Town Board member have any questions?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: I'd like to ask with reference to the water quality.
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You've had a test well rig up there I belieVe, haven't you on the farm?
MR. KLATSKY: We were required to do a test well on the property and the results
have been made public.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: They're not in your statement though are they?
MR. KLATSKY: They weren't required because we had made application to Greenport
for water hook-up to the property. We have taken the precaution of doing that test
well to determine whether or not we could supply water to the community itself, or
to supply water to Greenport. And I'd like to make a further comment that it's still
within the range of feasibility to clean up the water in relation to the test results,
still make it available to the community and probably even have an overage available
to the Village of Greenport for their water supply.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: You think you can get that volume of water out of
that?
MR. KI_ATSKY: The volume is no question according to the results of our study.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Could you make that available to us? That test
well, what it was?
MR. KLATSKY: In answer to your question, definitely we will make the test results
of that well available, which will demonstrate both volume and other contents with the
water, and we are also studying at this point in time the engineering feasibilitY and
cost to actually clean up that water supply. But it's ample--it's more than ample to
serve the program and have an excess.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: And when do you expect to have that engineering
material so that you can determine whether it's feasible or not? Financially.
MR. KLATSKY: We can probably have those results, if the question is asked by the
lead agency, we can probably have those results and be ~ncorporated in the report.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: I think that should be part of it.
MR. KLATSKY: Fine. We would like to just make a comment that whatever the
summation of the questions are we will respond to the lead agency list of questions
and we'll note that one right now. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay. Any other Town Board member have any other
concerns or questions? (Nothing at this time.) Okay. Anyone else in the audience?
MR. PRITCHARD: I would like to ask the gentleman one question. If he has such
a volume of water there, what will happen after taking it out over a period of time
so close to Jockey Creek without having salt water intrusion and affecting the wells
all around the area?
MR. KLATSKY: If the Board requests I'll respond. The engineering study said~-
that we will provide you--established that there will be an ample water supply and
it will not affect groundwater conditions. That's part of the nature of doing a test
well.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Anyone else? Ruth.
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RUTH OLiVA: Could he possibly do some soil borings so that we know what the
thickness is too of the clay underneath that water supply that you have an adequate
layer of clay so that you don't have salt water up-coning as they do down there in'
well #8 in the Pebble Beach cluster subdivisiOn, and that's what happens. If you
have too think a layer underneath that water, then you have up-coning of salt. The
other way is if you draw too much and then it comes hor~izontally, the salt into it.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay. Any other concerns?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: I'd like to say that's not irrelevant, because what
she's saying here is that you're not just supplying the homes there, what you'~;e saying
you're going to do is supply water to Greenport also.
MR. KLATSKY: Could I comment on that?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Yes, surely.
MR. KLATSKY: My answer, to be a little bit more specifiC, was that there's more--
from the test results we gotten at this point there's more than enough water. Whether
or not it's the decision to supply the excess water to Greenport has not been made
yet. But I'm saying that right now there's more than enough water from the test
results. We have not concluded any agreements with any other agencies as to where
there's excess water and if in fact we would pump excess water.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: But one of the philosophies of Greenport is now
that they're going to ask to have water off areas outside of the Village and as one
of the requirements to get water from.
MR. KLATSKY: As I understand it, and I haven't seen the policy statement by the
Village, as I understand it there are two statements being made: one is that they
certainly would prefer that all potential well sources would have an amount in excess
to assist the Greenport Water Authority. And a second category, and a lesser priority,
would be those that would satisfy and sustain its own needs. Those are the two
categories as I understand that the Village has promulgated.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Well, from my understanding the first one is the
one they're concerned with, because ....
MR. KLATSKY: They certainly would prefer the first one. No doubt about that.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: That's why I say the question is not unreasonable.
MR. KLATSKY: Right.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay, any other comments?
members? (No response.) Anyone? (No response.)
hearing.
(No response.) Town Board
Okay, if not, we'll close this
LEGAL NOTICE
NOTICE OF HEARING
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the Town Board of the Town of Southold
will hold a public hearing at 8:00 P.M., Tuesday, March 11, 1986, at the
Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York, on the Draft Environ-
mental Impact Statement submitted by Meadow Farms Associates, with respect
to their petition for a Ghange of Zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural
District to "M" Light Multiple Residence District, Petition No. 268, on certain
property located on the westerly side of Main (NYS Route 25) Road, south of
Tuckers Lane, Southold, New York, consisting of 18 acres. Petitioner is
desirous of having the zoning status of the property changed to permit the
development of an affordable housing program with a density of four units
per acre.
SEQR lead agency is the Southold Town Board. A copy of the Draft
Environmental Impact Statement is on file in the Office of the Southold Town
Clerk, Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York, and is available for
inspection during regular business hours.
DATED: February 4, 1986.
JUDITH T. TERRY
SOUTHOLD TOWN CLERK
PLEASE PUBLISH ONCE, FEBRUARY 13, 1986, AND FORWARD ONE (1]
AFFIDAVIT OF PUBLICATION TO JUDITH T. TERRY, TOWN CLERK,
TOWN HALL, MAIN ROAD, SOUTHOLD, NEW YORK 11971.
Copies to the following:
The Long Island Traveler-Watchman
The Suffolk Times
Town Board Members
Planning Board
Town Clerk[s Bulletin Board
Meadow Farms Associates
February 24, 1986
Dunn Engineering P.C.
66 Main Street
Westh~pton Beach, NY
11978
Dear Mr. Dunn:
Meadow Farms Tra~ffic Impact Study
Route 25, Southold
Your Februa_EM 1,0, 1986 Submission
have completed our review of the subject material as you requested.
Baaed on o~r f~ilarity with the Southold area, it would seem that this 72
unit development is designed for a retirement community. If this is the
case, an eastbound left turn storage lane should be installed on Route 25.
Ample width is available inasmuch as Route 25 was resurfaced in the Fall
of 1985.
In conjunction with this, "No Stopping Any Time" signin~ should be
installed across the property frontage for adequate sight distance.
Pro, er inter~ection control (Yield or Stop) must also be provided.
Based on our field observations, there may be some large maple trees on
the side of the new street which miRht have to be trimmed or removed.
We will require 10 copies of a site plan includin~ the following
information:
Location and dimensions of existing highway oavement,
median, median o~enings, ~uide rail, utilities,
right-of-way lines and property lines.
curb, sidewalk,
traffic sig~ns.
B. Existing, and proposed h~ilc[Ings and appurtenances.
C. Design features to be incorporated in proposed construction or
reconstruction:
I. Width, pavement type and thickness of driveways.
2. Radii of driveway returns and other points of curvature.
3. Driveway ~rades or profile view of driveway.
Dnnn Enffineerir~q P.C.
February 21, 1986
page 2
Angle of driveways relative to the roadway center lina.
5. Dimensions of roadside control islands and driveway medians.
6. Dimensions and elevations of curb and sidewalk relative to the
edge of pavement.
7. Location of authorized traffic signs and prooosed advertisement
sign s ·
8. Existing, and proposed pavement markings.
D. Existing and proposed drainage features:
1. Size, type and grade of driveway culverts.
2. Highway dra~naMe structures.
3. Direction of surplus water flow on applicant's property.
E. Distance from each existing and proposed driveway on the site to:
1. The nearest side road in each direction if within 1000 feet.
2. The nearest driveway on adjacent properties.
3. Streets, roads, or driveways opposite the site.
4. Adjacent property lines.
F. North directional arrow.
G. Details of internal traffic circulation, parking, traffic control
devices, actual or estimated traffic volumes, and any proposed
~ additional pavement lanes or widening. This information and the plans
, submitted must be prepared by a licensed professional engineer or
~ architect.
These must be sent to Mr. H. R. Thyberg, regional perm_it engineer, at the
above address.
~hank you for your cooperation concernir~ this matter.
,Very truly yours,, j
T. C. HOFF~AN ~
Regional Traffic Engineer
cc: Town of Southold~%
TCH:JH:BT
Dunn Engineering, P.C.
December 6, 1985
Page 2
4. Angle of driveways relative to the roadway center line.
5. Dimensions of roadside control ~slands and driveway medians.
6. Dimensions and elevations of curb and sidewalk relative to the
edge of pavement.
7. Location of authorized traffic signs and proposed advertisement
signs.
8. Existing and proposed pavement markings.
D. Existing and proposed drainage features:
1. Size, type and grade of driveway culverts.
2. ]~ighway drainage structures.
3. Direction of surplus water flow on applicant's property.
E. Distance from each existing and proposed driveway on the site to:
1. The nearest side road in each direction if within 1000 feet.
2. The nearest driveway on adjacent properties.
3. Streets, roads, or driveways opposite the site.
4. Adjacent property lines.
F. North directional arrow.
Details of internal traffic circulation, parking, traffic control
devices, actual or estimated traffic volumes, and any proposed
additional pavement lanes or widening. This information and the plans
submitted must be prepared by a licensed professional engineer or
architect.
Please send this material to Mr. H. R. Thyberg, regional permit en~ineer, at
the above address.
Thank you for your cooperation concerning this matter.
Very~iruly yo~urs, ~/
c. OEFMA //
Regional Traffic Fngineer
TCH:~t:JS
cc: Town of Southold ~ ~--
Decomber 6, 1985
Dunn Engineering, P.C.
66 Hain Street
Westhampton Beach, NY
11978
Town Clerk Southold
COPY FOR YOUR
Dear Mr. Dunn=
Meadow Farms
Route 25, Southold
From our discussions of December 5, 1985, we understand that the subject
development will consist of 72 condominium units.
To evaluate this site, we will require three copies of a Traffic Impact Study
containing the following information:
A. Turning movement counts for each driveway intersection with the state-
highway for the 8 highest hours of an average day.
B. Turning movement counts for each adjacent intersection on the highway
system for 8 highest hours of an average day.
C. Three years of current accident data, including accident type and
description.
Delay studies at each driveway intersection where a permit signal is
requested. These delay Studies must be performed during the morning
peak hours, the mid-day peak hours, and the afternoon or evening peak
hours.
E. Time-Space Diagrams if a proposed signal will effect existing signals.
We will also require eight copies of a site plan containing the following
information:
A. Location and dimensions of existing highway pavement, curb, sidewalk,
median, median openings, guide rail, utilities, traffic signs,
right-of-way lines and property lines.
B. Existing and proposed buildings and appurtenances.
C. Design features to be incorporated in proposed construction or
reconstruction:
1. Width, pavement type and thickness of driveways.
2. Radii of driveway returns and other points of curvature.
3. Driveway grades or profile view of driveway.
JUDITH T. TERRY
TOWN CLERK
REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS
OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 728
Southold, New York 11971
TELEPHONE
(516) 765-1801
NOTICE OF RECEIPT OF DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT
Date: December 20, 1985
APPLICANT: Meadow Farms Associates
ADDRESS:
Main Road, NYS Route 25
Post Office Box 616
Southold, New York 11971
PERMIT APPLIED FOR AND PETITION NUMBER:
Change of Zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural District to "M" Light
Multiple Residence District, Petition No. 268.
PROJECT DESCRIPTION: Petitioner is :desirous of having the zoning status of
the property changed to permit the development of an affordable housing
program with a density of four units per acre.
PROJECT LOCATION: Westerly side of Main (NYS Route 25) Road, south of
Tuckers Lane, Southold, New York, consisting of 18 acres.
SEQR DETERMINATION: A draft environmental impact statement has been prepared
on this project and is on file.
SEQR LEAD AGENCY: Southold Town Board.
AVAILABILITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT: The draft environmental impact statement
may be reviewed at the address listed below. Comments on the project must
be submitted to the Contact Person indicated below no later than February 3,
1986.
CONTACT PERSON:
Judith T. Terry, Town Clerk
Town of Southold, Town Hall
Main Road, Southold, New York 11971
(516) 765-1801
Page 2 - DEIS -~eadow Farms Associates
PLEASE PUBLISH ONCE, JANUARY 2, 1986, AND FORWARD ONE (1) AFFIDAVIT
OF PUBLICATION TO JUDITH T. TERRY, TOWN CLERK, TOWN HALL, MAIN ROAD,
SOUTHOLD, NEW YORK 11971.
Copies to the following:
The Suffolk Times
The Long Island Traveler-Watchman
Town Board Members
Southold Town Planning Board
Southold Town Building Department
Town Clerk's Bulletin Board
Charles Hamilton, DEC, Stony Brook
Commissioner Williams, DEC, Albany
Suffolk County Department of Planning
Suffolk County Department of Health Services
Meadow Farms Associates
~EC~IVED
1986
NEW YORK STATE
LEGISLATIVE COMMISSION
ON WATER RESOURCE NEEDS
OF LONG ISLAND
FEB 3 R£C13
January 31, 1986
Judith T. Terry, Town Clerk
Town of Southold, Town Hall
Main Road, Southold, NY 11971
Dear Ms. Terry:
I am writing to voice the concerns of the New York State
Legislative Commission on Water Resource Needs of Long Island
tive to the DEIS for Meadow Farms Associates.
rela-
From the perspective of groundwater protection and preservation,
the Commission believes that the DEIS is sorely lacking in infor-
mation and impact analysis. The one page discussion does not supply
such pertinent information as depth to groundwater, depth of the
upper glacial and expected increase in water demand due to the pro-
ject. The Town of Southold is an environmentally sensitive area,
already experiencing major groundwater quality and quantity problems.
The applicant proposes to use a Village of Greenport well and/or
drill a new community well. Location of the wells, the impact on
the existing public water supply system, including whether it has
the capability to meet the increased demand, is not discussed.
Meeting peak summer demand is currently a problem, as is failing
equipment, salt water intrusion and temik contamination. Increasing
the permissible zoning density eightfold appears to be inconsistent
with prevailing conditions and environmentally sound planning. The
"safe yield" for the area should be determined according to the
Department of Environmental Conservation Groundwater Management
Program. The growth inducing aspects related to expanding a public
water supply system should also be evaluated.
The Commission requests that the applicant addresses the above
mentioned concerns and the overall impact to groundwater. Based on
such information, the Town could make an informed decision as to
whether it can afford to further burden the sensitive water supply
of the North Fork.
Sincerely,
aryel len McNicholas
Senior Research Analyst
Hauppauge Office
4390 Orchard Street
Orient, New York 11957
January 23, 1986
Mrs. Judith T. Terry
Town Clerk
Southold Town Hall
53095 Main Road
Southold, New York 11971
Dear Mrs. Terry:
I would like to express my opposition to the change of zone
requested for Meadow Farms in Southold. The developers have
asked the town board to downzone the property from its current
designation of two-acre minimum lot size to a density of four
units per acre in order to provide 'affordable housing." The
density requested is eight times that currently allowed.
No one disputes the need for the town's assistance in
providing opportunities for young families to own their own
homes. The questions become: How great is the need? How may
the town best address this need?
Published results of a recent survey claim a response of
approximately 300 families in need of affordable housing in
Southold. According to a study in Brookhaven Township, of 2,000
applicants screened, only 525 (26%) were found eligible for home
ownership under the income guidelines of their affordable housing
program. Applicants must be creditworthy and be able to meet
monthly mortgage payments and other household expenses regardless
of the type of housing proposed. If a similar percentage is
applied to those identified in the Southold survey, it can be
extrapolated that approximately 80 Southold families may be
financially ready for "affordable" homeownership.
Eighty families is a substantial number. However, the town
board recently downzoned 48 acres in Greenport for the purpose of
providing affordable housing. At the approved density of four
units per acre, after subtracting the land required for roads,
sumps, water supply, etc., the property should yield about 150
affordable homesites. An amount nearly double that currently
needed for Southold residents. Of course, this assumes that the
Greenport developer is sincere in his desire to build affordable
housing and did not dupe the town board into the downzoning.
RECEIVED
Town Cle~ Seutho~
DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK
PETER F. COHALAN
SUFFOLK COUNTY EXECUTIVE
INFOIIIL4TIOll
LEE I~. KOPPELMAN
DtRECTOR OF PLANNING
AuguSt 8, 1985
Ms. Judith T. Terry, Clerk
Town of Southold
53095 Main Rd. - P.O. Box 728
Southold, N.Y. 11971
Re:
Application of "Meadow Farms Associates"
(#268) for a change of zone "A" Agricultural
and Residential to "M" Multiple P~sidence,
Town of Southold (SD-85-10).
Dear Ms. Terry,
Pursuant to the requirements of Sections 1323 to 1332 of the Suffolk
County Charter, the Suffolk County Planning Commission on August 7, 1985,
reviewed the above captioned application and after due study and deliberation
Resolved to approve it subject to the following:
1. All dwelling units should be owner occupied; and
A qualified purchaser clause shall be established with occupancy
guaranteed for a minimum of five (5) years. If the housing unit
is sold prior to the expiration of such time period, all profits
shall be retained by the Town of Southold for affordable housing
purposes.
Very truly yours,
Lee E. Koppelman
Director
Gerald G. Newman
Chief Planner
GGN:gcc
6outhold, N.Y. 11971
(516) 765-1938
July 30, 1985
Mr. Wilbur Klatsky
P.O. Box 616
Southold, NY 11971
Re: Meadow Farms
Southport Development Corp.
Dear Mr. Klatsky:
Enclosed are copies of the Southold Town Planning Board
resolutions, pertaining to the above applications, which were
passed at the July 29, 1985 meeting.
Please don't hestitate to contact us if you have any questions.
enc.
Very truly yours,
BENNETT ORLOWSKI· JR., CHAIRMAN
SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD
By Diane M. Schultze, Secretary
T LD
Southold. N.Y. 11971
(516) 765-1938
July 30, 1985
Mrs. Judith Terry
Town Clerk
Town Hall
Southold, NY 11971
Re: Meadow Farms
Dear Mrs. Terry:
The following action was taken by the Planning Board, Monday,
July 29, 1985.
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board refer their
recommendation to the Town Board regarding the proposed change of
zone from A to M for Meadow Farms located at Southold. Please
refer to the attached letter for the recommendation. (7/22)
If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact
our office.
BENNETT ORLOWSKI, JR. , CHAIRMAN
$OUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD
By Diane M. Schultze, Secretary
enc.
cc: Wilbur Klatsky
LD
Southold, N.Y. 11971
(516) 765-1938
July 22, 1985
Southold Town Board
Town of Southold
$outhold, NY 11971
Re: Meadow Farms at Southold
Gentlemen:
The Planning Board has held numerous meetings with the applicant
which has submitted a plan for 72 units addressing the affordable
housing issue in the Town of Southold.
The prices, incidentally, of these units are a low of
$55,000 and a top of $85,000.
The applicant is requesting a change of zone to:the M1
classification.
It is the Planning Board's recommendation that the Town Board
consider this change of zone based upon obtaining covenants
and restrictions which would parallel the affordable housing,
"Hamlet Density" conditions of the proposed zoning ordinance
prepared by Raymond,Parish, Pine and Weiner.
We are available to meet With the Board to discuss this
project at your convenience.
Thank you for your consideration.
&r u 1~/ ~/
Bennett Orlowski, Jr.,fhair_man
Southold Town Planning~Board
dms ~
~c: ~own Clerk
~Town Attorney
MEADOW FARMS ASSOCIATES
P. O. BOX 616
Southold, New York 11971
July 22, 1985
William F. Mullen, Jr.
Bayberry Road
Nassau Point
Cutchogue, New York 11935
Re: Meadow Farms
Dear Bill:
It was good talking to you last week concerning Meadow
Farms. Following up on our discussion, we have had some
experience at Eastwind Shores with the question of main-
tenance costs for a denitrification system. While the
system is basically passive, a prudent manager should
provide some maintenance set-aside.
From our analysis, the only foreseeable maintenance costs
would be the electricity for a scavenger pump and replace-
ment of chemicals. Accordingly, we would suggest that
$1,000.00 per year be set aside for electricity and
$1,500.00 every three years for chemical replacement.
The monthly cost to the individual homeowners would be
as follows:
1. Electricity - $1,000 divided by 72 homes
divided by 12 months equals:
$ 1.16
Chemical Replacement - $1,500.00 divided
by three years equals $500.00 per year.
$500.00 divided by 72 homes divided by
12 months equals:
TOTAL:
.58
1.74
William F. Mullen,
July 22, 1985
Page 2
Jr.
I hope this information will be of help to you in your
deliberations.
Very truly yours,
Wilbur Klatsky
WK:med
cc.: Southold Town Planning Board~/
MEADOW FA~S ASSOCIATES
145 Schooner Drive
Southold, New York 11971
May 8, 1985
Southold Town Planning Board
Town Hall
Main Road
Southold, New York 11971
Att: Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman
Re: Meadow Farms
Dear Mr. Orlowski:
We wish to again thank you for your consideration of the Meadow
Farms application at the Planning Board meeting of ~ay 6, 1985.
While we had hoped that an affirmative decision could have been
rendered by the Planning Board, we unfortunately understand the
need to proceed cautiously in order that the results of an
affordable housing program are in the best interests of all
concerned.
As the Board indicated, and as M~adow Farms Associates agree~,
there are still some outstanding issues to be addressed. There
was general agreement that a series of meetings should be con-
ducted to address these issues.
The first issue relates to the use of the condominium association
structure. As we have explained at other meetings, the Health
Department requires the use of a condominium association for a
residential development in order to permit the use of a denitrifi-
cation central sewer program. Further, the denitrification system
would be required in light of the Town's regulations that public
water and a sewer program be present when the program has a resi-
dential yield of four units per acre or greater. It should be
noted that, through these increased densities, a general savings
is passed along that is reflected in an affordable house since
land costs and site improvement costs are divided by a greater
yield, thereby lessening the price of an individual home.
Bennett Orlowski,
May 8, 1985
Page 2
Jr.
The question posed by the Planning Board on this matter was
whether the Suffolk County Health Department would amend or
waive its regulations concerning the necessity of a condo-
minium association. We would be more than happy to establish
a meeting date with the Health Department and members of the
Southold Town Planning Board to determine whether the County
would be in a position to waive the condominium association
requirements.
The other matter that came up at our meeting concerned a
meeting held with Raymond Dean, Superintendent of Highways,
on March 15, 1985. The Planning Board had requested that we
meet with Mr. Dean to discuss road widths, waiver of curb
requirements, and whether the Highway Department would con-
sider the dedication of the principal roads. Rather than
review the results of the meeting, I am enclosing a copy
of our letter to you of April 17, 1985, which summarizes the
results of the meeting. On this point, we would again be
willing to set up a meeting with Raymond Dean, ourselves and
the Planning Board, at your convenience.
With your permission, I would like to begin to schedule
meetings with the Planning Board, the Health Department,
and Raymond Dean at your earliest convenience in order that
these issues can be addressed. As I indicated, we are most
anxious to continue on with the application and, as always,
will continue to seek the cooperation of the Planning Board
in this matter.
Very truly yours,
Wilbur Klatsk~
Consultant
(516) 765-2954
WK:med
cc.: Members, Southold Town Planning Board
John Bertani
Alexander Koke
145 Schooner Drive
Southold, New York 11971
April 17, 1985
Southold Town Planning Board
Town Hall
Main Road
Southold, New York 11971
Att: Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman
Re: Meadow Farms
De.mr Mr. Orlowski:
At our meeting of April 12, 1985, you asked us to follow up
with some additional information. The one piece of information
requested was a summary of the results of a meeting between
Meadow Farms Associates and Raymond Dean, Southold Town Super-
intendent of Highways (March 15, 1985), concerning road criteria
for Meadow Farms. These preliminary results are as follows:
General agreement that the Highway Department would
accept road paving widths of 24 feet for the princi-
pal loop system and 22 feet for the minor loop roads.
Further, there would be no lessening of Town
construction criteria for the roads to be built.
There was general agreement that the subject roads
would be acceptable without curbs with additional
engineering details still to be worked out.
3. Necessary road drainage to be designed to meet
Highway Department criteria.
4. The Highway Department would consider taking back
the roads through dedication.
old Town Planning Board
April 17, 1985
P~ge 2
5. Ail the above would be subject to confirmation
by the Planning Board.
We hope this information will satisfy your inquiry.
Very truly yours,
Wilbur Klatsky
Consultant
(5]6) 765-2954
WK~med
cc.: Raymond Dean, Superintendent
of Highways
William F. Mullen
G. Ritchie Latham
Richard Ward
Kenneth Edwards
JUDITH T. TERRY
TOWN ChERK
REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS
OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 728
Southold, New York 11971
TELEPHONE
(516) 765-1801
April '26, 1985
Meadow Farms Associates
145 Schooner Drive
Southold, New York 11971
Gentlemen:
Enclosed herewith is:a "Notice of significant Effect on the Environ-
ment'' in respect to your petiti°n for a Change of Zone, which determination
was the subject of a Town Board resolution on April 23, 1985, a copy of
which is also enclosed.
You are hereby requested to prepare a draft environmental impact
statement for submission to me upon completion.
Very truly yours,
Judith T. Terry
Southold Town Clerk
Enclosures
JUDITH T. TERRY
TOWN CLERK
REGISTRAR OF VITAL STAI'ISTICS
OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 728
Southold, New York 11971
TELEPHONE
(516) 765-1801
THIS IS TO CERTIFY THAT THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION WAS ADOPTED BY THE
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD AT A REGULAR MEETING HELD ON APRIL' 23, :'1985:
WHEREAS, Meadow Farms Associates has heretofore applied to the Southold
Town Board for a Change of Zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural
District to "M" Light Multiple Residence District on certain~property located
on the westerly side of Main Road (N.Y.S. Route 25), South of Tucker Lane,
Southold, New York.
NOW, THEREFORE, IT IS RESOLVED AS FOLLOWS:
1. That pursuant to the provisions of Article 8 of the Environmental
Conservation Law, Part 617 of Title 6 of the New York State Codes, Rules
and Regulations, and Chapter 44 of the Southold Town Code, the Southold
Town Board, as lead agency, does hereby determine that the action proposed
is a Type I action and is:likely to have a significant effect on the environment.
2. That the Town Clerk shall file' and cir(~ulate such determination as
required by the aforementioned law, rules and code.
3. That the Town Clerk immediately notify the applicant, Meadow Farms
Associates, of this 'determination, and further request said'applicant to pre-
pare a draft envirOnmental impact statement, all in'accordance with said laws,
rules and code.
udith T. Terry ~
Southold Town Clerk
JUDITH T. TERRY
TOWN CLERK
REGISTRAR OF VITAL STAI ISTICS
OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Town Hail, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 728
Southold, New York 11971
TELEPHONE
(516) 765-1801
NOTICE OF SIGNIFICANT EFFECT ON THE ENVIRONMENT
Dated: April '23, 1985'
Pursuant to' the provisions of Article 8 of the EnvirOnmental Conservation
Law, Part 617 of Title 6 of the New York State Codes, Rules and Regulations,
and Chapter 44 of the Southold Town Code, the Southold Town Board, as lead
agency, does hereby determine that the action described below is~a Type I
action and is likely to have a significant effect on the environment.
DESCRIPTION OF ACTION
Petition of Meadow Farms Associates for a Change of Zone from "A" Residential
and Agricultural District to "M" Light Multiple Residence District on certain' property
located on the westerly side of Main Road (N.Y.S~ Route 25), South of Tucker Lane,
Southold, New York.
Further information may be obtained by. contacting Mrs. Judith T. Terry, Town
Clerk, Town of Southold, Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York 1:1971.
copies to: Charles Hamilton, DEC, Stony Brook
Commissioner Williams, DEC, Albany
Suffolk County Department of Planning~
Suffolk County Department of Health Services
Southold Town Building Department
Southold Town Planning Board
Town Clerk's Bulletin Board
Meadow Farms Associates
MEADOW FARMS ASSOCIATES
145 Schooner Drive
Southold, New York 11971
April 17, 1985
Southold Town Planning Board
Town Hall
Main Road
Southold, New York 11971
Att: Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman
Re: Meadow Farms
Dear Mr. Orlowski:
At our meeting of April 12, 1985, you asked us to follow up
with some additional information. The one piece of information
requested was a summary of the results of a meeting between
Meadow Farms Associates and Raymond Dean, Southold Town Super-
intendent of Highways (March 15, 1985), concerning road criteria
for Meadow Farms. These preliminary results are as follows:
General agreement that the Highway Department would
accept road paving widths of 24 feet for the princi-
pal loop system and 22 feet for the minor loop roads.
Further, there would be no lessening of Town
construction criteria for the roads to be built.
There was general agreement that the subject roads
would be acceptable without curbs with additional
engineering details still to be worked out.
3. Necessary road drainage to be designed to meet
Highway Department criteria.
4. The Highway Department would consider taking back
the roads through dedication.
Southold Town Planning Board
April 17, 1985
Page 2
We hope
Ail the above would be subject to confirmation
by the Planning Board.
this information will satisfy your inquiry.
Very truly yours,
Wilbur Klatsky
Consultant
(516) 765-2954
WK:med
cc.: Raymond Dean, Superintendent
of Highways
William F. Mullen
G. Ritchie Latham
Richard Ward
Kenneth Edwards
MEADOW FARMS ASSOCIATES
145 Schooner Drive
Southold, New York 11971
April 9, 1985
Southold Town Planning Board
Town Hall
Main Road
Southold, New York 11971
Att: Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman
Re: Meadow Farms
Dear Mr. Orlowski:
Meadow Farms Associates wish to thank you for the opportunity of
appearing before the Planning Board on April 1, 1985 to discuss
the subject application. We wish to alert you that we are fully
understanding of the range of questions posed by the Planning
Board since the overall goals of the community are the most im-
portant aspect that must be addressed. Further, we understand
the role of the Planning Board in securing as much factual
material as possible before rendering a decision. In this
respect, we will attempt to address the general questions posed
at our recent meeting.
One of the questions posed related to housing costs. As we indi-
cated earlier in our discussions with the Planning Board, we have
been investigating the moderate housing program on a two-fold
approach. One was to make housing more affordable to the middle-
income purchaser; the other is to develop a sound home for Town of
Southold residents. As you can imagine, these goals are somewhat
in conflict. The preliminary pricing structure we have presented
to the Planning Board is as follows:
A) 1 bedroom, 1 bath, 1-car garage: $ 65,000.00
B)
2 bedroom, 1 bath, 2-car garage
(Expansion capability to 3 bedroom,
2 bath):
75,000.00
~ C) 3 bedroom, 2 bath, 1-car garage: 85,000.00
Southold Town Planning~oard
April 9, 1985
Page 2
Preliminary specifications are:
1)
3)
Full basements in all units;
Oil hydronic heat with 275 gallon tanks;
Complete appliance package, including washer,
dryer, refrigerator, range, range hood and
dishwasher;
4) Wall-to-wall carpeting;
5) Ceramic tile in baths;
6) Vinyl siding on exteriors;
7) Landscaping of all units;
8) Gutters and leaders;
9) Quality kitchen cabinets.
Further, we have looked into the two-bedroom unit square footage
and agree that 850 square feet is the Town of Southold require-
ment and will revise the plan accordingly.
The buildings will have architectural features which will show
individuality of design, as follows:
1)
Each duplex building will be designed to resemble
one large ranch home;
2)
Garages will have side entries or front entries,
as the site plan will provide;
3)
There will be changes in exterior siding and
roof colors, architecturally coordinated;
4)
Buildings will be designed with different
architectural details.
The Planning Board should understand that the above pricing structure
includes assumptions for costs for the following unanswered items:
1) Final yield of housing units;
2) Final architectural designs;
Southold Town Planning Board
April 9, 1985
Page 3
3) Public water service:
A) Possible water fee from Greenport Water
Authority of $2,000.00,
or
B) Private community water service which must
meet Suffolk County Health Department standards;
4) Site improvement design criteria.
Meadow Farms Associates will guarantee the final price of the units
for one year after the final site plan is approved by the Planning
Board and the above unanswered items are known. We are not sure if
any other affordable housing applicant would agree to hold pricing
for that period. This becomes a very important issue since it is
conceivable that once an applicant secures the required zoning,
prices could increase after the opening of the program, thereby
defeating the overall affordable housing goals of the municipality.
Another question that was discussed concerned the condominium
association which would be required. The format of the condominium
association is required in order that a central sanitary denitrifi-
cation system could be utilized pursuant to Health Department
requirements. More specifically in regard to the condominium
association, the structure would require that every purchaser be a
member of the association. The association would be responsible
for providing grounds maintenance, such as grass cutting, fertili-
zation, and spring and fall cleanup, and exterior maintenance of
the buildings.
There will be a wide range of purchasers at Meadow Farms. We will
have older residents who will be leaving larger homes, as well as
younger families just starting out. The feature of exterior
maintenance will have a definite appeal to those older residents
who will not be able to adequately maintain their unit because of
the physical requirements. On the other hand, the young family
who is stretching their income to make monthly payments may find
the exterior maintenance of a home and a well-kept lawn unimportant~
By having an association maintain the exteriors of the project,
there will be no embarrassments to the Town, Planning Board, or
Meadow Farms Associates a number of years after the project is
complete due to unmaintained lawns and units because of either
physical or economic hardships. There are numerous examples
within recent years (1974 1979) where an economic downturn
caused substantial blight in many Long Island communities. The
existence of an exterior maintenance program through a condominium
Southold Town Planning~oard
April 9, 1985
Page 4
association offers a greater degree of security to all the
affordable housing purchasers as well as the Town of Southold
so that the community will not deteriorate.
It is our intention to have the association maintain a simple
posture in order that the unit owners are not overburdened with
the cost of supporting elaborate service. At present, we have
estimated the monthly cost of lawn care and maintaining the ex-
teriors, including the management of the association, to be
approximately $25.00 to $30.00 per month, based on 72 units.
If the association wishes, it can also purchase, on a project
basis, garbage removal and insurance on the structures cheaper
than if an individual purchased them on his own. For instance,
garbage removal will cost approximately $5.00 per month per
unit if purchased by the association. If purchased individually
on a single-family home basis, the cost could run as high as
$15.00 per month. Insurance, including general liability and
fire, but excluding contents, will cost approximately $11.00
per month, if purchased by the association, as opposed to $25.00
per month on an individual basis.
In general, Meadow Farms Associates feel that, because the princi-
pals are Town residents, they have an obligation to build a quality
project which the Town can be proud of at a moderate cost. We feel
that we can produce housing competitive to any other "stick built"
or prefabricated home, assuming all things are equal.
Meadow Farms Associates will make every effort to use local
contractors and suppliers to keep the economic benefits of the
project within the Town.
Very truly yours,
Wilbur Klatsky
Consultant
WK:med
cc.:
William F. Mullen
G. Ritchie Latham
Richard Ward
Ken Edwards
27 lg84
COUNTY Of SUFFOLK
PETER F. COHALAN
SUFFOLK COUNTY EXECUTIVE
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES DAVID HARRIS. M.D., M.P.H.
To: 7~/~m/' ~ -~O~//~ Date ~-~,~--
~e a~e ~n ~ece~p~ of ~ou~ ]e~e~ da~ed~//~,/~conce~n~ng ~he above
refemnced project.
~l. This ~part~nt has no objection to your designation of lead agency status.
2. This Department is in agreement with your initial detemination.
~Z~3. This Department does not agree with your initial determination. See
Conments.
4. Insufficient information is available for technical comments.
There is no record of an application to this Department.
A more accurate project location is needed. .~'~'~
(Suffolk County Tax Map #)
6. This Department has received an application and it is:
Complete
Incomplete
Other:
It appears that the project can be served by:
Sewage Disposal System
Sewer System and Treatment Works
Subsurface Sewage Disposal System{s}
Other:
548- 3318
Water Supply System
A Public Water Supply System
Individual Water Supply System{s}
Other:
Comments:
The Health Department's primary environmental concern pertaining
to development is that the applicant comply with the requirements of the
Suffolk County Sanitary Code especially Article ¥ and VI, and relevant
construction standards for water supply and sanitary sewage disposal.
These considerations are to be reviewed completely at the time of
application. 'Full consideration in placement of water supply wells
and disposal systems is given to state and town wetland requirements.
The Health Department maintains jurisdiction over final location of
disposal and well systems and the applicant should not undertake to
construct any water supply or disposal system without Health Department
approval.
Other portions of the Suffolk County Sanitary Code also apply to
commercial development such as Article XII. The Lead Agency is requested
to forward a copy of this form to the applicant with its findings.
Further comment may be provided upon completion of the application
ew.
Phone ~'-J,'~-
5-012 II, ES?I~CTIOBS FOR ~OB-I~S~DE~ITIAL BUILDINGS
When submitting sewage disposal plans for a non-residential
building, restrictive covenants 9ertaining to change in use,
occupancy, storage of toxic or hazardous materials or the
discharge of any waste must be filed.with the Suffolk County
Clerk. The covenants will reflect the recommendations of the
Federal 208 Study relating to the established hydrological
JUDITH T. TERRY
TOWN CLERK
REGISTRAR OE VITAL S'l ~, I ISTICS
OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
March 13, :19851
lIAR 14 1985
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 728
Southold, New York 11971
TELEPHONE
(516) 765-1801
Mr. Bennett Orlowski, 'Jr., Chairman
Southold Town Planning Board
Southold, New York 1:1971
Dear Bennie.;
Transmitted herewith is the petition of Meadow Farms Associates
requesting a Change of Zone from "A" Residential' and AgricUltural
District to "M" Light Multiple Residence District on certain property
located on the westerly side'of MainRoad (N.Y.S. Route 25), south
of Tucker Lane, Southold, New York.
Please prepare an official report defining the conditions described
in said petition and determine the area so affected by your recommenda-
tion and transmit the same to me.
Very truly yours,
Judith T. Terry
$outhold Town Clerk
Attachment
STATE OF NEW YORK
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
I AR 1 1985
PETITION
IN THE MATTER OF TH~ PETITION OF MEADOW FARMS ASSOCIATES
FOR A CI{ANGE, MODIFICATION OR AMENDMEINT OF THE BUILDING ZONE ORDLN-
ANCE OF THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, SU~'~'OLI< COUNTY, NEW YORK.
TO THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD:
145 Schooner Drive,
1. ~, MEADOW FARMS ASSOCIATES' residing at Southold,
(~mert name of petitioner)
Suffolk County, New York, the undersigned, am the owner of certain real property situated at
W/S Route 25
..... .S...o..u...t..h..0.~.~z_..N...e..w.._.Y...°..r...k. ........... and more particularly bounded and described as follows:
Description attached as Exhibit "A"
2. I do hereby petition tl~e Town Board of the Town of Southold to change, mod[fy and
amend the Building Zone Ordinance of the Town of Southold, Suffolk County, New York.
Including ~he Building Zone Maps heretofore made a part lhereof, as follows:
We request a change of zone from "A" Residential to "M" Multiple
Residence District.
3. Such request is made for the folloxving reasons: TO permit the development
of an Affordable Housing Program with a density of four (4) units
per acre.
MEADOW FARMS ASSOCIATES
John Bertani, Partner
STATE OF NEW YORK, )
) SS:-
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK, )
JOHN BERTANI
............................................... BEING DULY SWORN, deposes and says that
he is the petitioner in the xvithin action; that lie has read the foregoing Petition and knoxvs
the contents thereof; that the same is true to his (her) own knowledge, except as to the matters
therein stated to be alleged on information and belief, and that as to those matters he believes it
to be true.
Swgrn to before me
this~..~' day of....F.e..b.r..u.a.r.y. ......... 19..8.5.
......
Notary Public.
MARY E. DAWSON
I~OTARY PUBlIC, State of New York
No. 52-4643721, Suffolk
Term
[xpJre$ March 30, ~.~
JOHN BERTANI
EXHIBIT "A"
Description of Property
ALL that certain tract or parcel of land situate in the Village
and Town of Southold, County of Suffolk and'State of New York,
bounded and described as follows:
BEGINNING at a granite monument on the westerly line of Main
Street and the southeasterly corner of land of Francis M.
Gagen; running thence along said westerly line of Main Street,
South 13° 00' West 100.0 feet to a concrete monument and land
of Marguerite H. Young; thence along said land of Marguerite
H. Young, two courses, as follows:
1. North 77° 00' West 120.0 feet to a concrete monument;
thence;
2. South 21° 56' West 126.42 feet to a concrete monument
and land of Baker; thence along said land of Baker and land
of George H. Smith Estate, North 81° 12' 20" West 540.46
feet to a granite monument and land of Frank Bly Estate~
thence along said land of Frank Bly Estate, two courses,
as follows:
1. North 12~ 50' 10" East 28.0 feet to a granite monument;
thence
2. North 76° 43' 10" West 895.92 feet to a stone and post
and land of Diller Brothers' thence along said land of Diller
Brothers, North 31~ 1' 60" East 709.83 feet to a granite
monument and land of Arthur B. Gordon; thence along said land
of Arthur B. Gordon, South 42° 49' 50" East 384.77 feet to a
concrete monument; thence southeasterly and then easterly
along other land of Jonathan H. Terry 774.6 feet, more or
less, to the southwesterly corner of land now or formerly of
Helen Virginia Cleveland; thence along said land now or for-
merly of Helen Virginia Cleveland, South 65° 51' 20" East,
127.2 feet to a concrete monument on the southwesterly corner
of said land of Francis M. Gagen; thence along said land of
Francis M. Gagen, South 60° 56' East 182.68 feet to the point
or place of beginning.
Together with all right, title and interest of the party of
the first part in and to Main Street in front of and adjoining
said premises.
ALSO, ALL that tract or parcel of land situate in the Village
and Town of Southold, County of Suffolk and State of New York,
bounded and described as follows: BEGINNING at the south-
westerly corner of land now or formerly of Helen Virginia
Cleveland and running thence westerly and then northwesterly
along other land of Jonathan H. Terry above described 774.5
feet, more or less, to a concrete monument and land of Arthur
B. Gordon; thence along said land of Arthur B. Gordon, three
courses, as follows:
1. North 30° 37' East 150.07 feet to a concrete monument; thence
2. South 72° 46' 10" East 474.11 feet to a concrete
monument; thence
3. South 73° 12' East 238.03 feet to a concrete monument
and land of Rose M. Smith; thence along said land of Rose
M. Smith and said land now or formerly of Helen Virginia
Cleveland, South 17° 20' 40" West 260.2 feet to the point
of beginning.
-2-
NAME
~RION KING
THOMAS FRANKE
JAMES LOUGHLIN
RUSSELL & JOAN MANN
ANN DILLER &
THO~S E. HEMBLO
WILLIAM C. BOLENIUS
A~NA BURNETT
STEPHEN PERRICONE
MARGUERITE YOUNG
PROOF OF MAILING OF NOTICE
ADDRESS
Main Road, Southold, NY 11971
Main Road, Southold, NY 11971
Box 278, Main Road, Southold, NY 11971
660 Oakwood Drive, Southold, NY 11971
Ackerly Pond Lane, Southold, NY 11971
Cox Lane, Cutchogue, NY 11935
.Main Road, Southold, ~Y 11971
1930 Leeward Drive, Southo!d, NY 11971
Main Poad, Southold, NY 11971
STATE OF NEW YORK:
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK:
of
side hereof, directed to each of the above-named persons at the addresses set opl
that the addresses set opposite the names of said persons are the~ddresses of sai
rent assessment roll of the Town of Southold; that said Notices ~ve(e mailed at t
Southold, New York ;that said Notices were,n~ /d t..o eacl
(~rg~:ce~erd~ marl. ~,~ ~
JOSEPH FISCHETTI, JR. , residing at Hobart Road, Southold, New York
, being duly sworn, deposes a9d says that on the 27th day
Feb ruary ,19 85 , deponent mailed a true copy of the Notice set forth on the reverse
mctive names;
)S~PH
~e thei~e
persons a~ s
e Ur~ted S~a
~CHETTi
27th
Sworn to me this
day o.f ~'ebruary ,19 85 ..
[d Notary Pul~l~c
. MARY E. DAWSON
ROTARY PUBLIC, State of New York
No. 52-4643721. Su,%lk County
Term Expires March 30,
~s~ified) ...-
TOWN BOARD, TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
In the Matter of the Petition of
MEADOW FARMS ASSOCIATES
to the Town Board of the Town of 5outhold.
TO:
NOTICE
YOU ARE HEREBY GIVEN NOTICE:
1. That it is the intention of the undersigned to petition the Town Board of the Town of Southold to
· requesta chanqe of zone from "A-80" Single Family Dwell~inq to "1~" Light
Multiple Residence (four unit~ p~r acre)
2. That the property which is the subject of the Petition is located adjacent to your property and is des-
cribedasf0110ws: BouDded North by Franke, KinG, Louqhlin, and Mann: West by
Dille~ ond Hemblo: South by Bolen~u.~. Burnett~ Perr~cone ~n~ ¥~ln_o:
East bv Main Road (Stat~ Route 25%. Property located West side Route 25~
South of Tucker's Lane, Southold, New York.
3. That the property which is the subject of such Petition is located in the following zoning district:
"A-80" Slnql~. ratably Dwellinq
4. That by such Petition, the undersigned will request that the above-described property be placed in the
following zone district classification: "M" Liqht Multiple Residence (four units
per acre)
pear and be heard at such hearing.
Dated: February 27, 1985
$. That within five days from the date hereof, a written Petition requesting the relief specified above will
be filed in the Southold Town Clerk's Office at Main Road, Southold, New York and you may then and there
examine the same during regular office hours.
6. That before the relief sought may be granted, a public hearing must be held on the m. atter by the
Town Board; that a notice of such hearing must be published at least ten days prior to the date of such hearing
in the Suffolk Times and in the Long island Traveler-Mattituck Watchman, newspapers published in the Town of
Southold and designated for the publication of such notices; that you or your representative have the right to ap-
MEADOW FARMS. ASSOCIATES
Petitioner John Bertani
PostO~ceAddress:
145 Schooner Drive
Southold, New York
11971
MEADOW FARMS ASSOCIATES
145 Schooner Drive
Southold, New York 11971
RECEIVED
To.wn C!~rk Soufhold
February
28, 1985
Southold Town Board
Town Hall
Main Road
Southold, New York
11971
A~t: Judith T. Terry
Town Clerk
Re:
Meadow Farms ASsociates, Application
for Change of Zone from "A" Residential
to "M" Multiple Residence District;
Affordable Housing
Dear Mrs. Terry:
The Southold Town Planning Board, after having met with us
to discuss the subject property with regards to an Affordable
Housing Program, indicated they felt that this property meets
the new Master Plan requirements for Affordable Housing.
The Planning Board requested that we formally submit an
application for rezoning of the 18+ acre parcel known as
"Meadow Farms" for a zoning change--from "A" Residential
to "M" Multiple Residence District having a maximum density
of four units per acre. Accordingly, please find attached:
Three copies of the application and reason for
the request of change. Said application has been
duly signed and notarized.
e
Map of the subject property indicating adjacent
property owners within 500 feet of the subject
parcel and existing buildings within 200 feet
of the subject parcel, as required for application.
3. An accurate boundary description is attached
to the application as Exhibit "A".
Judith T.
February
Page 2
Terry
28, 1985
Original Notice to Adj'acent Property Owners, to
which are attached the Receipts for Certified
Mail showing service of same upon all adjacent
property owners.
Application fee of $200.00 made payable to
the Town of Southold is enclosed.
Please note that since the subject property is located within
500 feet of State Route 25, the application must be submitted
to the Suffolk County Planning Commission for their review and
comments.
If there are any additional questions or materials required,
please call us at your convenience.
The applicant looks forward to securing these necessary
approvals and meeting the present goals of producing af-
fordable housing for local residents.
Thank you again for you~ continued cooperation in this
matter.
Very truly yours,
Wilbur Klatsky ~
Consultant
(516) 765-2954
WK:med
Enc.
cc.: Southold Town Planning Board
Att: Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
EAF
ENVIRO;IMENTAL ASSESSMENT PART !
Project Information
MOTICE: This document 47 des~Tned to assist in determining whether the action proposed may have a significant
effect on the etmvle:ri,~nt. Please cor~lete the entire Data Sheet. Answers to these questions will be considered
as Dart of the a~p)ication for apbroval and may be subject to further verification and~ubltc review. Provide
any additional information you believe will be needed to complete PARTS Z and 3.
It is expectea :nat cceoleticn of the EAF will be dependent on information currently available and will not
involve new Studies, research or invesciqation. If information requirina such additional work is unavai~ble,
so indicate and specify each instance· .
IIA~E OF PROJECT:
MEADOW FARMS
ADO~ESS AND NAME OF APPLICANT:
NAME AND ADORESS OF D~NER (If Different)
(Name)
~Street)
MEADOW FARMS ASSOCIATES
145 Schooner Drive
(Street)
Southold, New York
(P.O.) (State)
119 71
(zip)
(P.O.) (State) (Zip)
BUS~NCSS PHONE:
BESCRIPTIO~ OF PaOJECTt (Briefly describe type of Project or action) Moderate cost planned
±ncome deveZo~ment composed o£ 20 one-bedroom an[ts and
52 two-bedroom units
(PLEASE COMPLETE EACH QUESTIDN - Indicate N.A. if not applicable)
A. SITE DESCRIPTION
(Phystca) setting of overall project, both develoned and undevelobed areas)..
1. General character of the land: ~,enerally uniform slope ~ Generally uneven and rolling or irregular
Present land use: UrOan , Industrial , Co~nercial , Suburban Rural Forest
· Agriculture ~ ,'Other '
Total acreage of project area: 18 acres.
Aouroximate acreage: Presently After Completion
Meadow or Brushland acres 8 acres
Forested
Aoricuitural
'letland {Freshwater or
Tidal as net Articles
~4, ES or r.C.L.)
acres acres
18 acres 0 acres
___acres acres
4. '4~at is ~eedominant SOil type(s) on nro!ect site?
~. ,nat is de,tn to bedrock? Not encountered (tn ~eet)
9;L178 ......................
Presently After Completion
Hater Surface Area acres ___ac-es
Unvegetated (rock,
eart~ or fill) acres acres
Roads, buildinos
and other ,~aved
surfaces 0 4
acres ___acres
Lan~scapi ng
Other (indicate tyne) 0 acres 6 acres
6. A~proxinate percentage of proposed oroject site with slooes: O-lO~ loo, ; 1o-l %; 15~ or
greater~%.
7. Is project contiguous to, or contain a buildinn or site listed on the National Register of Historic
Places? .. Yes ,X No '
8. What is the depth to the water table? feet More than 18 feet.
g. DO hunting or fishing opportunities presently exist in the project area? . Yes X No
10. Does project site contain any species of plant or animal life that is identified as threatened or
endanqered - ,Yes ~ ~lo, according to - Identify each species
11. Are there any unique or unusual land forms on the project site? (i.e. cliffs, dunes, other geological
formations - __Yes X No. (Describe
Is the project sitq. presently used by the community or neighborhood as an open space or recreation
area - Yes ~t No.
13. Does the present site offer or include scenic views or vistas known to be important to the community?
Yes ~ No
14. Streams within or contiguous to project area:
e. Name of stream and name of river to which it is tributary N/A
15. Lakes, Ponds, Wetland areas within or contiguous to project area:
a. [;ame N/A ; b. Size (in acres) N/A
16. What is the dominant land use and zoning classification within a 1/4 mile radius of the project (e.g.
single family residential, R-Z) and the scale of development (e.g. 2 story).
B. PROJECT DESCRIPTION
1. Physical dimensions and scale of p~oject (fill in dimensions as appropriate)
a. Total contiguous acreage owned by project sponsor 18.0 acres.
b. Project acreage developed: acres initially; 10 acres ultimately.
c. Project acreage to remain undeveloped 8
d. Length of project, in miles: N~A (if appropriate)
e. If project is an expansion of existing, indicate percent of expansion proposed: building square foot-
age N/A ; developed acreage N/A ~
f. Nunt~er of off-strut parking spaces existina 0 ; proposed 144
g. Maximum vehicular trips generated per hour 36 (upon completion of project)
h. If residential: Number and type of housing units:
~ne Family Two Family Multiple Family Condominium
Initial 0
Ultimate 7 2
i. If: Orientation
~)eighborhood-City-Regional Estimated Emeloyment
Commercial
Industrial
j. Total height of tallest nronosed structure ~ feet.
-2-
Se
0
Yes X Ne
Zf stngle ohise p.oJec::
! f mu1 tt-~hised orejec~:
b.
N/A
0 4ores.
I. ktl1 bllstlng occur during constr~c?ton? Yes XNo
~. K~er of J~bs ~neraC~d: 4ur1.I consc~ccton 30 ~ 4f~ ~3~= ts ~lete 2
IQ.. N~e~ of Jobs el~adn4ted by ~s P~JK~ 0 .
11.. V~IT p~Jec~ ~ul~ ~locic~ of ~ p~JK~s or flctll~lfl? Yes X ~.
12.
ZS ~orf'&co or Sial)Surf&Co ltQtrid veste dlSHSI| Involved? X Yes
If ~. ~ndtca~ t~ of .is~ Cs~age. ta~sc~lZ, e~.) Domestic sewer ..
!3. Vt11 suffice i~i of eztstthg li~s,~nds, St~m, biyS or 0~er Sunice
15. I. ~es p~3ecC In.lye dts~sal of'~lld ~stl? X Ves
d. Ut11 any ~s~s not gQ Sn~ a s~dge dis~sal s~?~r into I slniti~ l~dfitl? Yes
· 16. V~11 o~JecC us~ hl~tctdes or ~CtCtdIS? TeS ~ ~
17. U!11 p~Jec~ '~vc~aely p~ducm ~ {m~ ~an ON ~ur =er UT)? Yes X~
19. X TeS ~. If 7es. ~fldtCICl ~erS~ __
20.
21.
Domestic heatinq and coolinq r'ecu~r~m~nt.~
TocJ~I ~nC'~C;PaCed -4ce, uS~,ge :e,' c~l.,,14j 700 aals dl
d. If .0. t.dlcate 4eSlre~ ::."O "a" Residential to "M"
· . Multiple Residence District
26.
b.
C. ~N~T~O~' ~TAIL$
Rezoninq
Site
~ni~ry Sys~Pm
County Review
MEADOW FARMS ASSOCIATES
145 Schooner Drive
Southold, New York 11971
MAR 1
1985
February 28, 1985
Southold Town Planning Board
Town Hall
Main Road
Southold, New York 11971
Att: Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman
Re: Meadow Farms
Dear Mr. Orlowski:
Attached is a copy of the submission letter to the
Southold Town Board for the rezoning required for
the Affordable Housing Program known as "Meadow
Farms."
We are in the process of revising the site plan with
your comments so that we may meet with Mr. Dean con-
cerning the roads.
WK:med
Enc.
Very truly yours,
wilbur Klatsky
Consultant
(516) 765-2954
Jmdith T. Terry
February 28, 1985
Page 2
e
Original Notice to Adjacent Property Owners, to
which are attached the Receipts for Certified
Mail showing service of same upon all adjacent
property owners.
Application fee of $200.00 made payable to
the Town of Southold is enclosed.
Please note that since the subject property is located within
500 feet of State Route 25, the application must be submitted
to the Suffolk County Planning Commission for their review and
comments.
If there are any additional questions or materials required,
please call us at your convenience.
The applicant looks forward to securing these necessary
approvals and meeting the present goals of producing af-
fordable housing for local residents.
Thank you again for your continued cooperation in this
matter.
Very truly yours,
Consultant
(516) 765-2954
WK:med
Enc.
cc.: Southold Town Planning Board
Att: Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman
MEADOW FARMS ASSOCIATES
145 Schooner Drive
Southold, New York 11971
MAR
1985
February 28, 1985
Southold Town Board
Town Hall
Main Road
Southold, New York
11971
Att: Judith T. Terry
Town Clerk
Re:
Meadow Farms ASsociates, Application
for Change of Zone from "A" Residential
to "M" Multiple Residence District;
Affordable Housing
Dear Mrs. Terry:
The Southold Town Planning Board, after having met with us
to discuss the subject property with regards to an Affordable
Housing Program, indicated they felt that this property meets
the new Master Plan requirements for Affordable Housing.
The Planning Board requested that we formally submit an
application for rezoning of the 18+ acre parcel known as
"Meadow Farms" for a zoning change--from "A" Residential
to "M" Multiple Residence District having a maximum density
of four units per acre. Accordingly, please find attached:
Three copies of the application and reason for
the request of change. Said application has been
duly signed and notarized.
Map of the subject property indicating adjacent
property owners within 500 feet of the subject
parcel and existing buildings within 200 feet
of the subject parcel, as required for application.
An accurate boundary description is attached
to the application as Exhibit "A".
TO: Southold Town Planning Board
FROM: Meadow Farms Associates
RE: Meadow Farms, Affordable Housing
DATE: February 15, 1985
Gentlemen:
For our meeting of February 15, 1985, we have prepared
a site plan, floor plans and architectural elevations,
which are hereto attached, pursuant to your request at
our previous meeting of January 25th.
In addition, there are certain other items, as we dis-
cussed, which are essential to the Affordable Housing
Program. These other elements are as follows:
The granting of a density of four units per
acre by the Town Board with Planning Board
support.
Reduction of road widths to approximately
26 feet.
Waiver of curb requirements.
Dedication of roads within complex when completed.
Expeditious processing of applications.
These then are the highlights we would like to address,
as well as your comments and review of the site plan
and architectural approach, which, as you recall, is
semi-detached units.
Thank you again for your continued cooperation.
MEADOW FARMS
SOUTHOLDreNEW YORK #8589 FEB, B19815
GARY D. CANNELLA ASSOCIATES
91 GREEN STREETm HUNTINGTON~ NEW YORK 11743
I
TO: Southold Town Planning Board
FROM: Meadow Farms Associates
RE: Meadow Farms, Affordable Housing
DATE: February 15, 1985
Gentlemen:
For our meeting of February 15, 1985, we have prepared
a site plan, floor plans and architectural elevations,
which are hereto attached, pursuant to your request at
our previous meeting of January 25th.
In addition, there are certain other items, as we dis-
cussed, which are essential to the Affordable Housing
Program. These other elements are as follows:
The granting of a density of four units per
acre by the Town Board with Planning Board
support.
Reduction of road widths to approximately
26 feet.
Waiver of curb requirements.
Dedication of roads within complex when
Expeditious processing of applications.
completed.
These then are the highlights we would like to address,
as well as your comments and review of the site plan
and architectural approach, which, as you recall, is
semi-detached units.
Thank you again for your
continued cooperation.
MEAOOW FARMS
SOUTHOLO~ NEW YORK #815~=$1 FEB. B lCt8~
GARY D, CANNELLA ASSOCIATES
$11 GREEN STREETj HUNTINOTONjNEWYORK 11743
t-
i355
TO:
FROM:
RE:
DATE:
Bennett Orlowski, Jr.
Chairman, Southold Town Planning Board
Bill Klatsky
Meadow Farms Associates
Meadow Farms, Affordable Housing
February 1, 1985
Dear Mr. Orlowski:
We have just received a note that in advance of our meeting
on February 8, 1985, the Planning Board would like to receive
a general outline concerning the items to be discussed.
As we outlined at our meeting of January 18, 1985 With the
Planning Board, we have a serious interest in developing an
affordable housing program and have identified and entered
into a contract on an 18-acre parcel located with frontage
on Route 25 and just west of Tucker's Lane, Southold, New
York. A copy of the map and its location was left with
the Planning Board at our previous meeting.
As we discussed, the Planning Board requested that we appear
at the February 8th meeting with a preliminary site plan,
preliminary architecture and elevations. These items are
currently being prepared and will be available for our
meeting.
As we indicated, it would be our intention to secure a zoning
change and site plan approval for the development of approxi-
mately 72 housing units with one through three bedrooms per
unit. The general price range of these units would be
$70,000.00 to $85,000.00 per unit. We know that this price
range would be subject to the pricing out of a full set of
plans and specifications and consideration by the Planning
Board of a selected waiver of certain site improvement
criteria, i.e. road width and elimination of curbs, as well
as the expeditious processing of the zoning changes and site
plan approval by the municipality.
After our meeting of February 8th, it would be our intention
to make application to the Town Board to grant a zoning
change from the current "A" Residential zone to the Multi-
Family zone, permitting a yield of four units per acre.
We would, of course, hope that the Planning Board would
assist in making whatever constructive comments they felt
would be helpful in support of that application.
We look forward to seeing you on February 8th and would be
pleased to answer at that time any additional questions you
may have.
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TOTAL AREA = 18.0204 ACRES
SUFFOLK COUNTY TAX MAP
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MAP TO ACCOMPANY APPLICATION FOR CHANGE
IN ZONING USE DISTRICT PREPARED FOR:
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TOWN OF SOUTHOLD SCALE I"= I00'
SUFFOLK COUNTY, NEW YORK NO 85-123
JUDITH T. TERRY
TOWN CLERK
REGISTRAR Ol~ VITAL STATISTICS
OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
TELEPHONE
(516) 765-1801
January 20, 1988
Southold Town Planning Board
Southold Town Hall
Southold, New York 11971
Gentlemen:
Transmitted herewith is a new change of zone petition from Southold
Villas, Inc. for "A" Residential and Agricultural District to "AHD" Affordable
Housing District on their property on the west side of Main [Route 25) Road,
Southold. The applicant has withdrawn their prior two-petitions for change
from "A" to "M" and "A" to "AHD" on this same parcel.
Please prepare an official report defining the conditions described ir~
said petition and determine the area so affected by your recommendations,
and transmit the same to me. Thank you.
Very truly yours,
$outhold Town Clerk
Attachments
SOUTHOLD - SOUTHOLD VILLAS PROPOSAL
[4 / VILLAS2]
15 December 1987
50605 Main Road
P.O. Box 333
$outhold, NY 11971
Ms. Valerte Scopaz
Southold Town Planning Board
Southold, NY 11971
Re:
Petition by Southold Villas, Inc., Mr. Isaac Saidmehr, Owner, to
have property (an 18.021 acre parcel on the West side of Main
Road, between Ackerly Pond Lane and Tucker Lane, in Southold Town
rezoned.
Dear Ms. Scopaz:
As a Southold homeowner, I would ltke to add to my previously
expressed objections to the proposed downzoning of the above referenced
parcel. As an architect and city planner, I have studied the plan
carefully, and urge you not to support It because of its negative
environmental/ecological Impact.
The project will place 36 dwelling units on only 16 real acres
(18 acre parcel minus approximately 2 acres for the proposed roads and
"open space"). Thus, the net area per dwelling unit will be .44 of an
acre. This means that the proposed denslty is 4.55 times the density
produced by normal two acre zoning.
The detritus from the 36 individual septic systems for these
houses will eventually find its way into the Jockey Creek inlet, further
exacerbating the problems whtch already exist for homeowners along this
waterway. It will also affect the private wells of present homeowners
along Main Road.
The town's own proposed Master Plan (for which we all paid as
taxpayers) calls for this parcel of land to be "Conservatton/~lculture".
Planning experts were paid to prepare a thoughtful, long range plan to
guide the growth and development of our town. Too often, as In the case of
Southold Villas, the public must be satisfied with short term gains at the
expense of long term reason.
Respectfully,
(5].6) 477-1016
December 17, 1987
Southold Town Planning Board
Southold Town Hall
Main Road
Southold, New York 11971
Re: Southold Villas - Applications for Change of
Zone and Subdivision
Gentlemen:
Please be advised that I represent an adjoining property
owner and, as such, would like to be kept apprised of any hearings,
meetings or other proposed actions regarding these applications.
JKM/lg
CC:
Southold Town Board
attn: Judith Terry, Clerk
/iFI', z
DATE
SOUTHOLD - SOUTHOLD VILLAS PROPOSAL
[4 / VILLAS1]
11 December 1987
50605 Main Road
P.0. 333
Southold, NY 11971
Ms. Valerle Scopaz
Southold Town Planning Board
Southold, NY 11971
Re:
Petition by Southold Villas, Inc., Mr. Isaac Saidmehr, Owner, to
have property (an 18.021 acre parcel on the West side of Main
Road, between Ackerly Pond Lane and Tucker Lane, In Southold Town
rezoned.
Dear Ms. Scopaz:
As a Southold Town taxpayer since 1985, I would like to express
my very strong opposition to the proposed downzonlng of the above
referenced parcel. I a~ an architect and city planner. I have studied the
plan, and I urge you not to support it for many reasons, one of which is
the heavy volume of traffic that this development will add to an already
congested area.
The proposed 36 housing units are required to provide a minlmu~
of two parking spaces each, and it is likely that many of the residents
will have two cars. Not accounting for visitors, maintenance vehicles and
deliveries, there will be up to 72 cars entering and exiting from one point
on Main Road. Even a minimum of 36 vehicles making an average of 5 trips
per day will account for 180 exits and 180 entries per day alone. The real
figure may well will be several ttaes that. [Consider how ~any vehicular
trips are sade per day by your o~m family.]
I live on Main Road In the vicinity of the proposed entrance, and
I can testify that it is already extremely difficult to enter Main Road
from my driveway. The project as proposed will have only one access point
from Main Road, at a particularly dangerous point -- close to the 90° curve
at Tucker Lane. Permitting development that would add so many cars with
only one way in and out can only be described as traffic planning madness.
Respectfully,
I urge you to take whatever action that
DEl; 15 1987
DATE
is within your power
R'L~E~VED J~Y
1.
to deny the application submitted by Southold Villa, Inc. for
re-zoning of 18.02 acres from two acre zoning to Multiple
Residential and so called 'Affordable Housing'. This would
result in two acre zoning being reduced to one-half acre
zoning·
This is a travesty·
impact;
1.
2.
3.
It would have the following negative
Water- Greatly increase the demand for an already seriously
threatened resource.
Sewage- Create sewage runoff that would run into Jockey
Creek leeching ponds as there is no where else it can drain.
Traffic- This would create a serious traffic problem, 72
vehicles and 72 parking spaces are called for in this plan.
This would result in an enormous amount of traffic enter-
ing and exiting on only one 100 foot access on the Main Road.
Added to the resident traffic using the single entrance/exit
would be garbage trucks, oil trucks, visitors and numerous
service vehicles.
Open Space- This re-zoning would destroy the open space
concept which was why two acre zoning was created.
Rural Atmosphere- This re-zoning would destroy the rural
atmosphere,which we have heard so much about , and which
makes our town attractive.
Property Values- This re-zoning would destroy property
values not only for the immediate neighbors, but for all
of the properties in the area.
The property owners on the Main Road, "The Gateway to
Southold", will suffer a serious property devaluation by
this proposed re-zoning.
This "Affordable Housing" hoax will not accomplish what it
claims. The lots will cost $25,000.00, a minimal house will
cost $70,000.00, total $95,000.00. Show me the person earning
$20,000.00 to $25,000.00 who can get a mortgage to finance
a $95,000.00 home.
Defeat this re-zoning. If you really think we need re-zoning,
put it where it won't destroy the living style and property
values of a great many people.
SLaY
Southold, N.Y. 11971
(516) 765-1938
December 15, 1987
Mrs. Judith T. Terry
Town Clerk
Town Hall
Southold, NY 11971
Re:
Southold Villas changes of zone
A-R to AHD and A - R to M
located at Southold
Dear Mrs. Terry:
The following action was taken by the Southold Town Planning Board,
Monday, December 14, 1987.
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board refer the following
recormnendation to the Southold Town Board with regard to the change of
zones petitions for Southold Villas for a change of zone from A-R to AHD
and from A-R to M located at Southold:
The Planning Board is not in favor of the change of zone from
A-R to M and recommends that the entire property be handled under
the change of zone for the AHD zone. The Board feels that the
proposal could be handled with the provisions of the Affordable Housing
District.
If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact our office.
Very truly yours,
BENNETT ORLOWSKI, JR., CHAIRMAN
SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING' BOARD
By Diane M. Schultze, Secretary
cc: Patricia C. Moore, Esq.
RECEIVED
coPY FOR YOUI~
JNFOR~,ATION
RECEIVED
JUDITH T. TERRY
TOWN CLERK
REGISTRAR OF VITAL $rATISTIC$
OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
TELEPHONE
(516) 765-1801
December 2, 1987
Southold Town Planning Board
Southold Town Hall
Southold, New York 11971
Gentlemen:
Transmitted herewith is the petition of Southold Villas Inc. requesting
a change of zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural District to "M" Light
Multiple Residence District on certain property located on the west side of
Main Road (Route 25), Southold, New York.
Please prepare an official report defining the conditions described in
said petition and determine the area so affected by your ecommendation
and transmit the same to me. Thank you.
Very truly yours,
J ~r ry
Southold Town Clerk
Attachment
Date:
Owner:
P,E'CEIV
NOV 2
Application for change of zone of 9.01 acres
from "A# Residential/Agricultural to
"M" Multiple Density District
-- ' ' , ~, 1987
Southold Villas Inc.
Isaac Saidemehr
97 Crow's Nest Court
Manhasset, N.Y. 11030
Agents:
Engineer:
Attorney:
Merl Wiggins
Peconic Associates
1 Bootleg Alley
Greenport, N.Y. 11944
Patricia C. Moore, Esq.
Edson & Bruer, Esqs.
Main Road, P.O. Box 1466
Southold, N.Y. 11971
Location: W/s Main Road (S.R. #25), Southold, N.Y.
North by Mann;
South by Flower Hill Building Corp.;
West by Baitz;
East by Main Road & ors.
SCTM# 1000-070-01-006
CASF. NO: .......................
STATE CF NEW YORK pETITION
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
,~,r ~. %?ATT~.R O? T~ PETITION OF
FOR A CI~MNGE. MODIFICATION OR AMENDMENT OF THE BUILDING ZONE ORDLN-
ANC~ OF THZE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, SUFFOLK COUNTY, NEW YORK.
TO THE TOWN BOARD OF TI{E TOWN OF SOUTHOLD:
SOUTHOLD VILLAS, INC., Crow's Nest Court
1. I, by:Isaac Saidmehr
.................................................................... , residing at Manhasset, NY 11030
(insert name of petitioner)
Suffolk County, New York, the undersigned, am the owner of certain real property situated at
Southold, N.Y.
.............................................................. and more particularly bounded and described as follows:
One-half of Exhibit "A" See'sketch plan
2. I do hereby petition the Town Board of the Town of Southold to change, modify and
~raend the Building Zone Ordinance of the Town of Southold, Suffolk County, New York,
including the Building Zone Maps heretofore made a part thereof, as follo~vs:
Change of Zone of one-half (1/2) of property from "A"-Residential /
Agricultural to "M"-light Multiple Residential District simultaneously
with application for change of zone of remaining one-half (1/2) of
property to "AHD"-Affordable Housing District.
3. Such request is made for the following' reasons:
TO permit development of one-half (1/2) of property to "M"-light
Multiple Residential District while designating remaining one-half
(1/2) of property to Affordable Housing District.
This application is made with the intent to preserve the character of
Southold Town while providing housing alternatives for all ages.
(L. S.) ................
STATE OF NEW YORK, )
) SS:-
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK, )
ISAAC SA~IDEMEHR
............................................... BEING DULY SWORN, deposes and says that
he is the petitioner in the within action; that he has read the foregoing Petition and knows
the contents thereof; that the same is true to his (her) own kno~vledge, except as to the matters
therein stated to be alleged on information and belief, and that as to those matters he believes it
to be true.
" Notary Public.
TOWN BOARD, TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
In the Matter of the Petition of
SOUTHOLD VILLAS, INC.
to the Town Board of the Town of 5outhoId.
TO:
NOTICE
YOU ARE HEREBY GIVEN NOTICE:
1. That it is the intention of the undersigned to petition the Town Board of the Town of Southold to
request a Chancre of Zone
2. That the property WhiCh is the subject of the P.etition is Iocatedadlacent to your ;lropeLty and is des-
cribed as follows: W/s Main Road (S.R.#25), North by Mahn, Sobth'Dy~£ower ulll
Buildinq Corp. i West by Baitz, East by Main Road & ors.
3. That the property which is the subject of such Petition is located in the following zoning district:
"A"- Residential/A~ricultural
4. That by such Petition, the undersigned will request that the above-describedpropert¥ be placed in the
following zone district classification: "M"-liqht multiple residential district
?
5. That within five days from the date hereof, a written Petition requesting the relief specified above will
be filed in the Southold Town Clerk's Office at Main Road, Southold, New York and you may then and there ·
examine the same during regular office hours.
6. That before the relief sought may be granted, a public hearing must be held on the matter by the
Town Board; that a notice of such hearing must be published at least ten days prior to the date of such hearing
in the Suffolk Times and in the Long Island Traveler-Mattituck Watchman, newspapers published in the Town of
Southold and designated for the publication of such notices; that you or your representative have the right to ap-
pear and be heard at such hearing.
Dated:
SOUTHOLD VILLAS, INC.~
Petitioner
c/o Patricia C. Moore, Esq.
PostOfficeAddress~
Edson & Bruer
Main Road, P.O. Box 1466
Southold, N.Y. 11971
PROOF OF ~.IAILING OF NOTICF
NAME
Diana Zanganas s ano.
157~ E. 96th Street
BroOklyn, N.Y. 11236
Anna L. Burnett
Sou~hold, N.Y. 11971
Douglas J. Peix & ano.
208 Fifth Avenue
NewlYork, N.Y. 10010
Joey Ann Verwayen
347 E. 60th Street
NewlYork, N.Y. 10022
Flower Hill Building Corp.
8243 Jericho Turnpike
woodbury, N.Y. 11797
Mr. & Mrs. Russell E.
660 Oakwood Drive
Southold, N.Y. 11971
Mann
Irene Gail Henry
Main Road, P.O. Box 916
Southold, N.Y. 11971
Mr. & Mrs. James Loughlin
Main Road, Box 278
Southold, N.Y. 11971
Marilon R. King
Main Road, P.O. Box 1106
Southold, N.Y. 11971
STATE OF NEW YORK :
COUNTY OF SUFFOLKs:
ADDRESS
Mr. & Mrs. Thomas Franke
Main Road
Southold, N.Y. 11971
Jane & Thomas Franke
Main Road
Southold, N.Y. 11971
Clifford & Kathryne Mitchell
51540 Main Road
Southold, N.Y. 11971
Gladys Howell
Main Road
Southold, N.Y.
11971
David Defriest
Main Road
Southold, N.Y.
11971
May Jankowski & ano.
c/o Mrs. Katherine Terp
Main Road
Southold, N.Y. 11971
Mr. & Mrs. Paul Radich
310 4th Avenue
Linden, N.J. 07036
Mr. & Mrs. James Kahrs
Main Road
Sou. thold, N.Y. 11971
Clayton Weymouth
Main Road, Box 125
Southold, N.Y. 11971
SS.:
John Marrovic
151-72 21st Ave.
Whitestone, N.Y. 11357
Keith Purcell
Ackerly Pond La.
Southold, N.Y. 11971
Pudge Corp.
50800 Main Road
Southold, N.Y. 11971
Mr. & Mrs. Louis Baker
Main Road
Southold, N.Y. 11971
William Rusch
Main Road
Southold, N.Y.
11971
Christian Science Soci:
Southold, N.Y.
Devora Sharp
Nassau Point Road
Cutchogue, N.Y. 11935
Southold School Dist.#5
Southold, N.Y. 11971
Ann D. Hemblo & ors[
Ackerly Pond La.
Southold, N.Y. 11971
Christian F. Baitz III
155 Midland Ave.
Bronxville, N.Y. 10708
MARY DIANA FOS'I'f~, , residing at McCann Lane, Greenport, N.Y.
. , being duly sworn, deposes and says that on the
of ~ fl",~,,'~:~.l 9 87 , deponent mailed a true copy of the Notice set forth on the reverse
side hereof, directed to each of the abov.,-named persons at the addresses set opposite their respective names;
iha: lhe addresses set opposite the names of said persons are the addresses of said persons as shown on the cur-
rent assessment roll of the Town of Southold; that said Notices were mailed at the United States Post Office.at
Southold, N.Y. that said Notices were mailed to each of said persons by (certified)
(~i~,:x:~) mail.
Sworn to me ~his
day of ~t~l,/~,4t/~ , 19 .,~..
,: ...,?.½
./
OF S OUTHOLD
SOUTHOLD VILLAS
SQUTHOLDr NEW YORK - 11971
PECONIC ASSOCXATES. INC.*
ONE BOOTLEG ALLEY
GREEN?ORT, L. I., NE~ YORK - 11944
ISAAC SAIDMEHR"
97 CRO~S NEST cOURT'
MANHASSET ' NEW YORK
~.<,r.z~,~;~; '(516) 621-2088
' li020'
9~.~.:~:~7!0~; OF ==OJ;C.-: (Sr*;efly dascrf~e :Tgi of ~roje¢'. 3r &¢:lcm) REZONING oF 18~'02 ACRES FROM
RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURE TO 9.01 ACRE5 "AFFORDABLE" AND 9.01 ACRE5 "M LIGHT": SEE
ATTACHED SITE PLAN.
(;3L-:A~Z CG~PLET~ ERC:~ ~UE~T~O,q - [ndl~ ,~.A. ~f hoc ~olS~ole)
Gefler~.l C.~arac:ar ~f C.~a land: r, ene.,'ail~, untfarm $1o~e ~ hare'ally u~iven and rolllag dr
?~sanc ?end use: ~Jrean . [ncus:~tal , Co.*~ar~;a] .... , SUOuroin
, Agriculture. :,,'~J-~r VACANT - ruKMERLY AGRI~uLIURAL.
,~esancly Aftlr Campldc~.,"n
18.02~r..s 1,8.
Approximate
;~ecl~nc ~=-~sawac~r or
J. Whir. is or-.~.cm:n.,n: soi; .tyoe(s) ~n 3m~ecc ;*;:31,; HAVEN
71L/7a
,, 4¢ris · lcfii
?.
8.
g.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
16.
16.
B.
Approxir~te percentage of pro~osed proJec,~ site with slopes; 0-10'~ 10o :; lO-15-- · .,ti .15--1r
Es p~ecC contiguous ~. or contain I butldlng o~ si~ 11st~ on the ~ittonal Register of' Ht~to~C
~es pro,eeC site contain any spectes of pl~C
end3n~e~ed - ,Yes ~ tM, acco~tng
Are ~here ~ny untque or unusual land fo~ on tho p~JIcT st~? (i.e. GT~ffs. du~s~ .o~ g~logl~l'
fo~Ctons - Yes X NO..(Oescrtb4
i~Xs ~e. p~JeCCYesSttex presen~lYNo. ~ by the
~es ~he Pre~'enCoStte~ H offer or tnclu~ s~ntc
St~ w~thtn o~ contiguous th p~ i~i: ' '.
Lakes, Ponds, Netland areas within or contiguous Co projlecC &rea: N!A.
a. Nar~ , ; b. Size (in acres)
What ts the dominant Tafl~ use end zoning classification within e 1/4 mile radius of the or~t~c~
single family residential, R-2) and the scale of develolxwnc (e.g, 2 Sto~), SINGLE-~FAMIL¥-
RESIDENTIAL{TWO SIDES) AND VACANT AGRICULTURAL (TWO SIDES). · ........... ..
PRO~£CT DESCRIPTION
T. Physical dimensions and scale of project (f111 in dimensions as appropriate)
a. Total contiguous acreage owned by project sponsor 18.02 acres. .
b. P~oject acreage developed:lB.02 ecru lntUally;18.02 ecru ul:t~1~... . . . .-..
c. P~Ject ac~age ~ twain undevelop~ OPEN 5PA~E,F~OM CLUSTERING ANO NELL SITE INCLUDED'
IN PR~BOSED DEVELOPMENT AREA;'~''' ' ·
d. Length of p~ecC. In miles: ,,N/A (ti app~p~tace) .
e. If p~ect ts ~ ~pans~on of extsR~. Jndt~ per~C of Mp~ston p~d: ~11dtng,Squa~
age ~/~ '; deveTopid acreage ~/~ ' ' ' ' ·
f. H~er of of~-st~t parktng spa~s extsttng ~ ' , T ~O~S~ 72 (TNO ~ER.UNtT'~:~.' -:
g. ~x~ma vehicular trips generated per~ 271 (u~n ~pleclon of p~dec:) *'"
h. Zf ~sident~a1: ~er and t~pe of housing untO:
One'F~Jl~ T~ F~11~ ~lC~ple F~tl~ ~ndoatnt~
Zn~ t~al 18 18
Ultimate 18 18
t. If: Orientation
Neighbornoed-C( :y-~gional ~Ct~ted ~plo~C ...
~rcial _
Industrial ,
J. To~l height of ~11e~C p~posed st~ctu~ ~
Haw much natural material
4. g111 any ~ture forest Covia
project? ,Yes
6.. 1~ Mngle phase p~Jecc: ~Ctctp&ced pert~ of ~sC~t~ 24 ~n~hs,, (In~l~lng ~11~1~),
12.
13.
14.
16.
16.
17.
18.
19.
&. [s surface or subsurlTaco ltqulcl vast~ dlli~s&l Involved1 _~ YU ~ ...
C. ~ surface disposal n~4 Qf SC~m tn~ vht~ I~W& ~11 be dls~a~ed N/A .
Will surface area of existing lakes, ponds, SCr~, ~S ar o~r su~a~
decreased by ~posal? Yes X ~. ..
Is project or any portion of ~ject l~ tn ~e 1~ year ~
a. Ooes p~ject involve disposal of ~o1[d ~s~? ~ Y~
C. X( yes, gtve n~e: SOUT~OLD TOWN LANDFIL~Io~&I~ CUTCHOGUE'
d. Wtll ~y wastes hoc So tnCo i siege dtsposil I~ or tn~
WIll project use homicides gr pOSTfCI~S? ,~ X ~ ' * ' '
WIll project ~uCtnely p~duce ~ (m~ ~n o~ ~u~ ~ ~)1 Y~ X ~ ,.. ,
Will p~ject p~duca operating noise ~c~dlng ~ 10~1 ~i~ce
Will p~ject resul~ in ~ increase in ~l~ use? X ~ ' ~. Zf ~ts, indl~ ~(~) m
0IL~ GAS OR ELECTRIC FOR HmEATZNG. ELECTRIC FOR ~ESIDENTZAL USE.
[~ wa:er supply is f~m wells In~ica~ p~ing ci~ctW gmls/mtnu~. ..
Total anticipated water usage ~er day ~1,000
Zoning: a. Wha: ts 4c~inant 'zoning classification'of si~)RESZDEN~IAL AGRICULTURAL
b. Current s~ectft¢ zoning .classiftca:ton Of Site ~SIDENTIAL AGRICULTU~L
¢. Es proposed use consistent ~l~ present z~ing) NO "
d. ~f no, indicate 4eslred zontngAFFOROABLE AND "~ LZGHT" - ~0~
21.
22.
26.
· OATE:
Approvals:
[s any Federal per. It re~ufrld? Yes X No
Does project tnvolve Stele or Federal fundtng or financing?
Lo~l ~d Regional ~pprovals:
App~va] Requl ~
OICy~o~"~,~¥tllage Board
Ctty,~'6'"~Vllle6e Flanntng Soard
ClCy,~Oopa~
Other a agan-~e
SLa~e Agencies
Federal Agenct~s
YES 'CHANGE OF ZONE
Yes ~,' m) · ·
Submi till App~val
(Bat;l)
INFOP,"~ATIO)~L DETAILS ..
Attach any additional Information as ~y be needed Co
adve~a Impacts associated with ~e proposal, please dls~ss su~ t~ac~ ~d
TIT~. PREDIDENT - PECONIC ~CIATES~ INC. /
m~RESa~T~: ISAAC SAIDMEHR - SOUTHOLD VILLA~
OCTOBER ~9, ~987
JUDITH T. TERRY
TOWN CLERK
REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS
OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
December 2, 1987
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
TELEPHONE
(516) 765-1801
$outhold Town Planning Board
Southold Town Hall
Southold, New York 11971
Gentlemen:
Transmitted herewith is the petition of Southold Villas Inc. requesting
a change of zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural District to "AHD"
Affordable Housing District on certain property located on the west side of
Main Road (Route 25), Southold, New York.
Please prepare an official report defining the conditions described in
said p~tition and determine the area so affected by your recommendation
and transmit the same to me. Thank you.
Very truly yours,
Southold Town Clerk
Attachment
'A
2 5
Application for change of zone of 9.01 acres
from "A" Residential/Agricultural to
"AHD" Affordable Housing District
Date:
Owner:
Southold Villas Inc.
Isaac Saidmehr
97 Crow's Nest Court
Manhasset, N.Y. 11030
Agents:
Engineer:
Merl Wiggins
Peconic Associates
1 Bootleg Alley
Greenport, N.Y. 11944
Attorney:
Patricia C. Moore, Esq.
Edson & Bruer, Esqs.
Main Road, P.O. Box 1466
Southold, N.Y. 11971
Location: W/s Main Road (S.R. #25), Southold, N.Y.
North by Mann;
South by Flower Hill Building Corp.;
West by Baitz;
East by Main Road & ors.
SCTM# 1000-070-01-006
NATURE OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT:
Petitioners have proposed the creation of 18 quarter acre unimproved
lots on 9.01 acres which will be sold to qualified recipients of the
Affordable Housing Legislation. The calculations for the number of
Affordable Housing lots, as well as the multiple single family units,
were based on 1/2 acre yield, then clustered into quarter acre lots to
maximize the acreage of open space.
The Petitioner intends to sell all 18 lots for the maximum sales price
of twenty-five thousand ($25,000.00) dollars per lot. Each lot owner,
within this Affordable Housing subdivision, will be encouraged to
build a home that will accommodate individual needs while maintaining
the integrity of the community.
Simultaneous to the Affordable Housing petition, the Petitioners have
submitted a change of zone application for the remaining land. The
remaining 9.01 acres will contain two and three bedroom multiple
single family units which will provide an alternative housing style to
those individuals who do not qualify for Affordable Housing or for
senior citizen complexes.
How this Affordable Housing Project
will be designed to fulfill the
purposes of this Article:
The purpose of the Affordable Housing Legislation is to provide higher
density housing for families of moderate income, preferably families
employed or residing in the Town of Southold.
Town Master Plan:
The proposed petition is in conformity with the Southold Town Master
Plan. The Master Plan proposed the Hamlet Density Residential
District which would provide for a mix of housing types and level of
residential density found appropriate to areas in and around the major
hamlet centers. Similarly, the Affordable Housing District is
intended for land within 1/2 mile of the Hamlet of Southold.
Site Analysis:
The site of the proposed Affordable Housing Project is ideal for the
intended project. The property is a total of 18.021 acres with
one-half of the property designated for Affordable Housing. The
layout of the project will include treed and landscaped streets, two
areas of open space, which can be improved and dedicated to the Town
or left in its natural state, and the design of the project is
intended to create a quiet setting for Southold residents. The
property will result in a minimum burden on governmental facilities
because the property is within walking distance to Southold schools,
churches, post office, local businesses and public transportation.
The likely candidates for affordable housing are young families or
retired persons on fixed incomes who are often dependent on
transportation. The Affordable Housing recipients will be
conveniently located within walking distance to the town, relying less
on their vehicles and, consequently, reducing traffic at the site.
Safety of Street System:
The street layout of the proposed project was created with input from
the Southold Town Planner. The design of the streets within the
proposed project have been carefully designed to maximize safety while
maintaining traffic flow. The streets within the proposed project
make use of cul-de-sacs and connecting streets. The proposed streets
will eventually connect to land now or formerly of Hemblo and land now
or formerly of Flower Hill Building Corp. The roads will be improved
to Town standards and dedicated to Southold Town.
Street drainage:
In order to maximize the open space, water runoff will be collected
and disposed of by underground leaching basins. Leaching basins will
make better use of the open space, as well as prevent an eyesore to
the community.
Character of area:
The proposed residential development will conform to the character of
established developments in Southold Town by the use of landscaping,
plantings and covenants and restrictions. The creation of single
family unimproved lots will give the owners the opportunity to build
their own homes of varying styles. Owners will take pride in owning
their own homes which will be built to meet their individual needs.
Covenants and restrictions can be imposed, if desired by the Town,
which can impose architectural controls on the design and aesthetic
quality of the community.
Utilities:
The proposed lots will be serviced by Greenport Utility Company and
individual septic systems. In order to meet the needs of Greenport
Utility Company, the Petitioner will donate a well of appropriate
quality and quantity to the Village of Greenport.
Conclusion:
In a concerted effort to keep the young families in Southold Town, the
Town Board instituted Affordable Housing legislation. The Petitioner
has responded to the need by submitting this Affordable Housing
project. We respectfully request that the Southold Town Board and the
Southold Town Planning Board approve the proposed petition.
CASE NO: .......................
STATE OF NE%V YOI%~ PETITION
TOIVN OF SOUTHOLD
iN THF B[ATTER OF TH~ PETITIC)N OF
FOR A CI~Q~NGE, ~%~OD~FICATION OR AMENDBIE~NT OF THE BUILDING ZONE ORDLN-
ANCE OE TtIE TO%VN OF SOUTHOLD, SUFFOLK COUNTY, NEW YORK.
TO THE TOWN BOARD OF Tt{E TOWN OF SOUTHOLD:
SOUTHOLD VILLAS, INC., : Crow's Nest Court
1. I, .b.Y.:...I..s.a..~c......S..a.i.d...e..m...e...h..r. ...................... , residing at...~,a,..n..h...a...s..s.,e...t..,.....N..Y.....1..1,.O...3..O. ........
(insert name of petitioner)
Suffolk County, Ne~v York, the undersigned, am the owner of certain real property situated at
Southold, N.Y.
.............................................................. and more particularly bounded and described as follows:
One-half of Exhibit "A" - See sketch plan
2. I do hereby petition the Town Board of the To~vn of Southold to change, modify and
amend the Building Zone Ordinance of the Town of Southold, Suffolk County, New York,
including the Building Zone Maps heretofore made a part thereof, as follo~vs:
Change of Zone of one-half (1/2) of property from 'A"-Residential /
Agricultural to "AHD"-Affordable Housing District simultaneously with
application for change of zone of remaining one-half (1/2) of property
to 'M"-light Multiple Residential District.
3. Such request is made for the following reasons:
TO permit development of one-half (1/2) of property to Affordable
Housing District while designating remaining one-half (1/2) of
property to "M"-light Multiple Residential District.
This application is made with the intent to provide affordable living
for Southold residents.
STATE OF NEW YORK, )
) SS:-
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK, )
ISAAC S A~I D ~M,E.H R
.............................................. BEING DULY S%VORN, deposes and says that
he is the petitioner in the within actioo; that he has read the foregoing' Petition and knows
the contents thereof; that the same is true to his (her) own knoxvledge, except as to the matters
therein stated to be alleged on informaticn and belief, and that as to those matters he believes it
to be true.
Sworn to before me
this ..... ay of ......... 19...~.
Notary Public.
~ EX.OIRES AUGUST 31,
(L. S.) .
TOWN BOARD, TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
In the Matter of the Petition of
SOUTHOLD VILLAS, INC.
to the To~vn Board of the Town of Southold.
TO:
NOTICE
YOU ARE HEREBY GIVEN NOTICE:
1. That it is the intention of the undersigned to petition the Town Board of the Town of Southold to
request a Chanoe of Zone
2. That the property Which is the s,u..bje..ct o,f. t..h~e.Pcti.tion !s. loc. ated. adjacent to your I~rope..rt, y and is .d.e.~
cribed as follows: W/s Main Road ~b.~. ~ZDl; North Dy mann, South Dy ~'~ower
.Buildinq Corp. t West by Baitz, East by Main Road & ors.
3. That the property which is the subject of such Petition is located in the following zoning district:
"A"-Residential/A~ricultural
4. That by such Petition, the un~erslgned will re.quest that the ~lbove-d~scribed property be placed in the
following zone district classification: AHD"-Aff~dable Housing District -
$. That within five days from the date hereof, a written Petition requesting the relief specified above will
be filed in the Southold Town Clerk's Office at Main Road, Southold, New York and you may then and there
examine the same during regular office hours.
6. That before the relief sought may be granted, a public hearing must be held on the matter by the
Town Board; that a notice of such hearing must be published at least ten days prior to the dat~ of such hearing
in the Suffolk Times and in the Long Island Traveler-Mattituck Watchman, newspapers published in the Town of
Southold and designated for the publication of such notices; that you or your representative have the right to ap-
pear and be heard at such hearing.
/
SOUTHOLD VILLAS, INC.~
Petitioner
c/o Patricia C.
PostOfficeAddress:
Edson & Bruer
Moore, Esq.
Main Road, P.O. Box 1466
Southold, N.Y. 11971
NAME
Diana Zanganas & ano.
1575 E. 96th Street
Brooklyn, N.Y. 11236
Anha L. Burnett
Southold, N.Y, 11971
Douglas J. Peix & ano.
208~Fifth Avenue
New'York, N.Y. 10010
Joey Ann Verwayen
347 ~E. 60th Street
New York, N.Y. 10022
Flower Hill Building Corp.
8243 Jericho Turnpike
Woodbury, N.Y. 11797
Mr. & Mrs. Russell E.
660 Oakwood Drive
Southold, N.Y. 11971
Mann
Irene Gall Henry
Main Road, P.O. Box 916
$outhold, N.Y. 11971
Mr. & Mrs. James Loughlin
Main Road, Box 278
Southold, N.Y. 11971
Marion R. King
Main Road, P.O. Box 1106
Southold, N.Y. 11971
STATE OF NEW YORK :
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK:
PROOF OF!IAILINGOF NOTICF
ADDRESS
Mr. & Mrs. Thomas Franke
Main Road
Southold, N.Y. 11971
Jane & Thomas Franke
Main Road
Southold, N.Y. 11971
Clifford & Kathryne Mitchell
51540 Main Road
Southold, N.Y. 11971
Gladys Howell
Main Road
Southold, N.Y.
11971
David Defriest
Main Road
Southold, N.Y. 11971
May Jankowski & ano.
c/o Mrs. Katherine Terp
Main Road
Southold, N.Y. 11971
Mr. & Mrs. Paul Radich
310 4th Avenue
Linden, N.J. 07036
Mr. & Mrs. James Kahrs
Main Road
Southold, N.Y. 11971
Clayton Weymouth
Main Road, Box 125
Southold, N.Y. 11971
SS.:
John Marrovic
151-72 21st Ave.
Whitestone, N.Y. 11357
Keith Purcell
Ackerly Pond La.
Southold, N.Y. 11971
Pudge Corp.
50800 Main Road
Southold, N.Y. 11971
Mr. & Mrs. Louis Baker
Main Road
Southold, N.Y. 11971
William Rusch
Main Road
Southold, N.Y.
11971
Christian Science Soci~
Southold, N.Y.
Devora Sharp
Nassau Point Road
Cutchogue, N.Y. 11935
Southold School. Dist.#5
Southold, N.Y. 11971
Ann D. Hemblo & ors~
Ackerly Pond La.
Southold, N.Y. 11971
Christian F. Baitz III
155 Midland Ave.
Bronxville, N.Y. 10708
MARY DIANA FOSTER . residing at McCann Lane, Greenport, N.Y.
. being duly sworn, deposes and says that on the
of /'~'~V'~.~/9,~' ,19 87 , deponent mailed a true copy of the Notice set forth on the reverse
side hereof, directed to each of the abov.,-named persons at the addresses set opposite their respective names;
that the addresses set opposite the names of said persons are the addresses of said persons as shown on the cur-
rent assessment roll of the Town of 5outhold; that said Notices were mailed at the United States Post Office at
,~:)ut.hold, N.Y. ; that said Notices were mailed to each of said persons by (certified)
( ~x:3~mlx:~l ) mail.
Sworn to me this
day of ' /I/~v~-//b~
T~ OF $OUTHOLD
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT - PART I
PROJECT INFORMATION
SOUTHOLD VILLAS
SQUTHOLD~ NEW YORK - 11971
PECONIC ASSOCIATES, INC.'
(;lame ~
ONE BOOTLEG ALLEY
GREENPORT, L. I., NEW YORK - 11944
ISAAC SAIDMEHR' ' :."
(:lame) ., ~
97 CROWS NEST COURT'
MANHASSET ' NEW YORK ' li020 ' ' '"
~mE: P~E: '(516) 621-2088
OE.~CR£PTTO.", OF moOJECT: (Sr~efl¥ describe :ype of ;~rojec*. 3r ac:~an) REZONI~G OF 18.'02 ACRES FROM
RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURE TO 9.01 ACRES "AFFORDABLE" AND 9.01 ACRES "M LIGHT".' SEE
ATTACHED SITE PLAN.
{;L"~$E CO~PL~T~ [AC~ QuESTiON - .rn~tc~c-~ .%1. ~f hOC
(Phystc~; sac:lng of over, il pr~j~c::, bacl~ devetoae.: snd ~nc~evelcoed ~rtas)
7/L/73
., '3e~eraily ...meven an,I rolling or Irregular
HAVEN LOAM AND' ~OME PLYMOUTH LOAMY SAND~
~h~c is c~ac~ := :ea~cx? N/A {In
Ap;~roxi~ate percentac;e of' proposed projec~ site with slopes:
a-lo: ]00 =; lO-iS; ,.;; '1s~' or
7. Is project contiguous to, ar contain a building ar site listed on the Nattonal RegiSter of'Hi~tortC
Places? Yes ~ , No ,.
8. ghat is the dep~ to the water table? +/30 feeC , ' '
g. O9,.hunctng or fishing oppo~unittes presently exist tn the project area? Yes
10. ~es project site contain any species of plant or animal life ~at ts identified'as threatened or
~ndan~ered - Yes ~ ~1o, acceding ta -'Identify each species '
Are t~ere any unique or unusual land for~$ on th~ project site? (i.e. cliffs, dunes, other geo]ogtc~l
formations - Yes ..X No..(Describe
12. Zs ~e p~ject stte present1~ ~ by the ~un~/ ar ne~gh~arhoa~ ~s ~n open space or ~c~atl~n ..
13. ~es ~he present s~te o~fer Or tnclu~ scenic v~s or vts~s ~ ~ be lm~t ~.~e ~tt~? ,'~
14. Strops wJ~htn or contiguous to pmJe~ a~a: ·
a. H~ of stream and n4~ o~ r~ver ~ WhJ~ it ~s trJbu~a~ N/A ' .... ~:',
me
1S. Lakes. Ponds, Wetland areas within or contiguous ~o pro,eot area: N/A
a. Na~ ; b. Size (in acres)
16. ghat is the dominant land us.e and zoning classificat~on wtthin · 1/4 m~le radJ~ of ~e D~Ject (e.g~ '
stngle famil~ rest~en:i~], R Z) ~d ~e scale of develo~en: (e.g, Z sto~). SINGLE .FAMIL~
RESIDENTIAL(TWO SIDES) ~ND VACANT AGRICULTURAL (TWO SIDES). · .......
PROJECT n;SCRIPTION . .
I~ Phystca! dimensions and scale of project (fill in dimensions as appropriate)
a. Total contiguous acreage o~ed by g~Je~ sponsor 18.0~ acres.
b. P~ect ac~e~ge d~veloped:l~.02 acres initially;18.02 a~u uZt~mately.
Project at.age to r~ain undevelaped OPEN sPA~E. F~OM CLUSTERING AND WELL SITE ~NCLUDED '
IN PROP~OSED DEVELOPMENT AREA.'
Length of project, in miles: N/A (if a~prmP~iate)
If p~Aect iS an expansion of existing, indicate percent of ~pansion p~posed: build(ng'squa~ foot-
age N/~ '; developed acreage /~ ' ' ~
fluter of off-st~t parking spaces existing ~'
Maximum vehicular trips generated per~e~ 271
If r~sidenttal: Number and type of housing units:
;- One'Family Two Family Multiple Family
Initial 18 18
Ultimate 18 18
; proposed ~ER.UfllT~'
72
(TWO
(upon completion of project)
Condominium
If: Orientation .-
Neighborhocd-Ci ty-Regional E4timated E~ployment
coa~arcial ~
Industrial
J. Total height of tallest proposed structure
24 feet.
much natural material ~i.e. rock, Ior~h, Itc.) will be r~vld f~om t~e sttl - 0
prQ~eCC? , ~es ~
s~g~e phasa p~ecC: ~c~p&ced per~od Of ~onsC~on ~ ~nths, CtnGludlng d~il~on).
b. ~tc~paCed ~e of ~c~nC p~ I~AY, ~1986 Z~r (Including
~ d. ]s p~se Z fln~ncJall~ ~nd~C on subsequent p~sas? Yes
12. a. ls surface or subsur1~ace liquid vastl disposal Involved?
b. Xf yes, Jndica~:a type of ~uta (swage, tndu~II, ~C,) ~ SEWAGE
c. Xf surface disposal n~ of stream Into which if~ulflt wit] be dtschi~ed
13. ~ill su~f~ce area of exisCtng l~kas&,ponds, SC~e~, ~s Or o~er surf&~ weU~I ~ IncruI~ or
decreesad by p~posal? Yes X NO. ..
14. Is pro~ecc or any portion of p~ect lo~cad in ~e 100 year ~oed platn?
15. a. noes p~jec~ involve disposal of solid ~s~T ~ ,?ll
b. If yes, wtll an ~ts~ng soltd w~Ca d~sposal fecillW be
c. ]~ yes, give n~e: 50UTHOLD TO~N LANDF]L~Ioca~ion CUTCHOGUE
d. ~111 any was~s hOC gQ into · se~agl disposal I~tm aP into a sanJ~ landfill1 ; Y~ X
16. NIl1 p~o~ect use he~icIdes or pes~Icides? ?~ ~ ~ ' ' '
17. Nlll p~oject ~uCtnely p~duce ~o~ (~ ~n one ~ur pe~ de~)? ~es X ,~ ,..
19. Will p~jecC resul~ in ~ tncreesa In ~e~ use?~X Yes ~o.
0IL) GAS O~ ELECTRIC FO~ H,EATIHG. ELECTRIC FO~ ~ESXDENTIAL USE.
ZO. I~ water supply [s f~m we]ls Indtc~ p~ing cApectty ' glls/mtnuCa. ..
Z1. Total anticipated water usage ~e~ day ~1,000
~. Zoning: a. 'dhaC is dominant 'zoning classification'of site)~ESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL
b. Current 5~aclftc zoning .classiftc3Cion O~ sttl ~ESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL
c. Is proposed usa consistent wt~ presen~ ZoAtng~ HO
d. [~ no, ifldJcaCe desired zoAIn~AFFO~DABLE AND "~ LIGHT" - 50% EACH
26.
Approvals:
Zs any Federa! permit required? Yes X No
Does p~aJect involve State or ;eders! funding or financing?
La'al and Regional approvals:
Approval Required
C~es. r~o) C~pe)
City,~n'~,~Village Baar~
Ctty,~Vtllage Planntng
Ctty,jT~, Zontna B~a~d
Other ec~ agencle
Other regional agencies
State Agencies
Federal Agencies
YES CHANGE OF ZONE
Yes ~' Ho
Submittal Appraval
(Dote) (Oat. e)
Z~IFOP.~ATIGNAL DLrTAILS
Attach any additional information as may be needed ta clarify your project. If there a~ or ~y be any
adve~e impacts associated ~i:h the ~pasal, please discuss such lmpac~ ~d the ~asures ~h1~ ~ be
~ken to mitigate or av~
TIT~: PR[~DENT - PECONIC ~CIATES, INC.
R~P~S~TING: ISAAC SAIDMEHR ~ S~UTHOLD VILLAS
DATE: OCTOBER 19, 1987
-4-
November 24, 1987
RECEIVED
NOV 2. =
~ 1987
So.thnW Tnw,~ Clerk
HAND-DELIVERED
Southold Town Board
Southold Town Planning Board
Town Hall, Main Road
Southold, New York 11971
Re: Southold Villas Inc.
W/s.Main Road', Southold, NY
Dear Sirs:
We hereby wish to amend and/or clarify Petition for change of zone
from A-Residential to AHD.
It. is the intention of the petitioner to covenant that 100% of
the lots will be sold fOr affordable housing pursuant to the
affordable housing schedule.
Very truly yours~
Patricia C. Moore
PCM/cas
Please make this letter an addendum to the Petition for change of
zone.
T~anking you in advance for your cooperation in this matter.
@\
IOJ
AREA
FOR
SOUYHOLD
MAP
V/L L A S
A T SOUTHOLD
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
SUFFOLK COUNT
I000 - 07'0 - OI - 08
Scole I" = 300'
Nov. 20, 1987
I 23J
® /
AREA
BUILDING ZONE ' 'A' RESIDENTI,~AL AGRICULTURAL
SCHOOL DISTRICT ' # 5
FIRE DISTRICT ' # ,28
TAX MAP NO. I000 - 059- I0
01- RAYMOND J. AKSCIN BA YVIEW ROAD $OUTHOLD, ~ Y. 11971
6.1- DAVID L. MUDO NORTH ROAD $OUTNOLD~ I~Y. 11971
TAX MAP NO. I000 - 059 - II
01- CHARLES & MARIANNE B. OTIS 95-51 471b ST. ASTORIA~ N.Y, 11103
02- WLADYSLAWA SABALJA 155 6LOVER STREET SOUT~IOLD~ N.Y. 11.971
OB- JOSEPH SPICIJARIC 30 TERRY COURT SOUTHOLD, N,Y, 11971
09- CHARLES & BEVERLY BENNETT ~OUTHOLDw I~ Y. 11971
I0 - JOHN F. & FERN BERRY TERRY COURT SOUTHOLD, N,Y, 11971
II- KATE DUYMOVIC 29-09 33r# STREET ASTORIA~ N.Y. 11102
12- MARIE HERZICH 2549 42n# STREET LONG ISLAND CITY~ N.Y. 11103
TAX MAP NO. I000 - 063 - 06
01- TERRY 6LOVE GRISWOLD P.O, BOX 903 SOUTHOLD, N.Y. 11971
02 - ROBERT W. PRITCHARD & tFIFE ,~6925 MAIN ROAD SOUTHOLD~ .Y. 11971
03 - JOHN HENRY MAIN ROAD SOUTHOLD~ N.Y. 11971
TAX MAP
OB - RUSSELL E. MANN & WIFE 660 OAKWOOD DRIVE SOUTHOLD~ N.Y. II97
9.~ - ANN D & ORS HEMBLO ACKELY POND LANE SOUTHOLD~ N.Y. 11971
9.3 - CHRISTIAN F. BAIZ~ 155 MIDLAND AVENUE BRONXVILLE~ N.Y. I~0708
I0.1 - FLOWER HILL BUILDIN6 CORPORA TION 8243 JERICHO TURNPIKE WOODBURY~ N.Y. 11797
TAX MAP NO. IOOO - 070 - OI
OI - IRENE GAlL HENRY P.O. BOX .916 SOUTHOLD~ N.Y. 11971
02 - JAMES ~, LOUeHLIN & WIFE P.O. ~OX 278 SOUTHOLD, N.Y. 11971
03 - MARION P. KING P.O, ~OX 1106 SOUTHOLD~ N.Y, 11971
04 - THOMAS V. FRANKE & I¢IF~ SOUTHOLD~ N,Y. 11~71
05 - ~JANE M.& THOMAS V. FR~IE MAiN ROAD ~OUTNOLDw N.Y. 11971
6.1 - SOUTHOLD VILLAS INCORPORATED 97 cROWS NEST COURT NEE YORK~ i~Y. 11030
7.1 ~ JOEYANN VERWA YEN 3~17 EAST 6011~ STREET NEW YORK~ N.Y, 10022
08 - DOUGLAS & PEIX ~OB FIFTH A VENUE NEW YORK~ N.Y. I0010
09 - ANNA L. BURNETT ,
I0 - DIANA ZANGANAS 1572 EAST 96Ih STREET ,BRGOKLYN~ N.Y.
TAX MAP NO. /000 - 070 -02
OI - CLIFFORD & KATHRYNE MITCHELL 51540 MAIN ROAD SOUTHOLD~ N.Y. 11971
02 - GLADY$ W. HOWELL SOUTHOLD~ N.Y, ll971
03 - DAVID I. DeFRIEST & WIFE $OUTHOLD, N.Y. 11971
04 - DAVID DeFRIEST MAIN ROAD SOUTHOLD, N.Y. 11971
05 - MARY JANKOWSKI CIO KATHERINE TERP MAiN R~AD SOUTHOLD~ N.Y. 1197i
06 - PAUL RADICH & ~/IFE 310 41h AVENUE LINDEN N.J. 07036
07 - JAMES R. KAHRS & WIFE MAIN ROAD EOUTHOLD~ N.Y. 11971
OB - CLAYTON WEYMOUTH P.O. 807 125 MAIN ROAD SOUTHOLD, N.Y. 11971
09 - JOHN MA VROVIC JSI-7~ Elst 'AVENUE IFI'BTE$TONE, N.Y. 11357
ID-- KEITH PURCELL & WIFE SSB ACKERLY POND LANE SOUTNOLD~ N.Y. 11971
II ' PUDBE CORPORA TION SSB 50800 MAIN ROAD SOUTHOLD~ IV. Y, 11971
12 - LOUIS F. BAKER ~OUTHOLD, N.Y. 11971
13 - WILLIAM A. RUSCH & k~1FE MAIN ROAD SOUTHOLD~ N.Y, 11971
I~ - CHRISTIAN ~IC. SOC. SOUTHOLD, N,Y. IIBTI
20.2 ' LOUIS F, BAKER MAIN ROAD $OUTHOLD~ N,Y. 00971
23.1 ' SOUTHOLD SCHOOL DISTRICT SOUTHOLD~ N.¥. 11971
PECONtC SURVEYORS & ENGINEERS, P.C.
(516) 765 - 5020
P.O. BOX 909
~AIN ROAD
SOUTHOLD~ N.Y. 11971
87 - 670
N/O/F RUSSELL MANN & ,JOAN MANN /
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' = " ' ' 120.00~
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~ ~ PROPOSED
, MArRGUEITE SKETCH PLAN FOR
' ~ /~' /~ '/~ /7 ~, .~ SOUTHOLD VILLAS
~.z~ Ia e~o~ ~ ~. .' A T SOUT'HOLD
'<""'~ ........ ~ ~z ~e' ._ .... ~ ~ TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
,.,.~. ~s' ~'~o. w. ~ ~ ~ , ~ SUFFOLK COUNTY) N.Y.'
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, I SEPT. 25, 1987
~ OCT 2, 1987 : '
N/O/F FLOWER HILL BU!LDING CORP. : k_~ ' --~C)-~--,('u:) RECEIVED BY
~CT2 ' ,198~
DATE
ZONING D/STR/CT: ,~E~ENTIAL AGRICULTURAL~~ '
I
I MAp MADE FR~ SU~EY COMPLETED SEPT. ICi~)e79 ' : - . : OWNERS & DEVELOPERS . ~,.... ,e/~// ' r ' I
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;OUTHOLD, N.Y. 11971
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ZONING DISTRICT
SC HOOL DISTRICT
FIRE DISTRICT:
RESIDENTIAL
SOUTHOLD
SOUTHOLD
AGRH
LTURAL
N.75~'45' O"W.
AREA
O~TLINE SURVEY COMPLETE~ ~ 16,1987
SOIL TYPE
HAVEN LOAM E~RLYMOUt~II~ ;~J~IDY LOAM
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OWNERS7 8, DEVELOPERS.;
SOUTNOLD VILLAS,- INC.
C/O MERL WIGGINS'
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CONCEPT
DEVELDPMENT
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--SUBDI VISI~
SOUTHOLD,
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TOWN Of
SU. FFOLK
I000 070
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NOV. 3, 198 ?
NOV. 20, 1987
N~V 3~ ~7
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RECEIVED
DEC, 1 1987
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