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HomeMy WebLinkAboutTB-11/14/2000 ELIZABETH A. NEVILLE TOWN CLERK REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS MARRIAGE OFFICER RECORDS MANAGEMENT OFFICER FREEDOM OF INFORMATION OFFICER Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 Fax (631) 765-6145 Telephone (631) 765-1800 OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK TOWN OF SOUTHOLD SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD NOVEMBER 14, 2000 REGULAR MEETING Work Session: Present: Supervisor Jean W. Cochran, Justice Louisa P. Evans, Councilman William D. Moore, Councilman John M. Romanelli, Councilman Brian G. Murphy, Councilman Craig A. Richter, Town Clerk Elizabeth A. Neville, and Town Attorney Gregory F. Yakaboski. Councilman John Romanelli advised that he will be meeting with CSEA President Lois Atkinson on December I st with regard to computers. 9:30 a.m. Appointment with LIPA, Keyspan, and Thomas Maher, Dvirka & Bartilucci. Present from LlPA were Bill Davidson, Mike Hervey, Matt Milhous, Adam Yablonsky, Vincent, Esposito, Fred Vaudel, and Brent Cunningham. On motion by Councilman Jolm Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Craig Richter, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby enters into Executive Session at 9:25 a.m. for the purpose of discussing contracts. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was declared ADOPTED. On motion by Justice Louisa Evans, seconded by Councilman Brian G. Murphy, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board hereby exit from this Executive Session at 10:40 a.m. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was declared ADOPTED. 11:00 A.M. Appointment - (IV. 6 )James McMahon, Executive Administrator, Kim Tetrault, Hatchery Manager at Cornell Marine Center, Cedar Beach, Southold, Re: SPAT (Southold Project in Aquaculture Training) and several other representatives, Gregg Rivera, Mike Patricio, Hatchery Technician, Mary Foster, PR & Media Specialist. Kim Tetrault said that they have been talking about and planning these initiatives for years. They are now ready to open their doors to an intensive community training because of their success. They will intensity their efforts and information program beginning with a aquaculture test plot data collection program to make shellfish more productive. A summer camp for interns to gather information and knowledge will be part ofthe program, for which they will receive credits. Mr. Tetrault explained that they will start by setting up a small model, then if it works well it will be used as an example for all shellfish. He will conduct once a month training workshops, a master shellfish gardener program, test plot data collection projects for school science classes, clubs, and community groups. He hopes also to initiate a shellfish transplanting program into area local creeks. He stated that the reason that he is doing this is because he loves teaching. This training initiative, if done properly and it works well, could overload itself each year. He wants to make the public aware that they are now ready and have something to run with. He is asking that all the groups pull together and use this tool properly. This year was almost equivalent to a Brown Tide situation, so this program can't start too soon. The funding from the Town is already in place. Supervisor Cochran appointed Mr. McMahon to be the town's representative on this. Supervisor Cochran asked Kenneth Poliwoda if the Town Trustees are interested in this. He responded that they are very interested and support the program. There will be an open house at Cedar 11/~4/00 2 Beach on December 13th to explain the program to all interested persons in the community. IV. 7. Fort Corchaug -Downs Farm - Mr. McMahon advised that Town Engineer Jamie Richter has inspected underneath the building which is set on locust posts The building is starting to settle and will come apart unless a new foundation is put under it. A Fort Corchaug work day is set for Saturday December 9th at which time they will get a dumpster and clean-up in and around the building. 11:25 a.m. The Town Board reviewed IV. For Discussion Items. IV. 1. Changes in Town Health Plan. The Town Board must notify the CSEA of any changes to the town health plan. Justice Evans said that the Board must decide what they want to implement before they go to CSEA. Councilman Romanelli gave his opinion that the greatest savings in the long run would be in a plan similar to the Empire Plan. Justice Evans stated that the Town would not actually go to that plan, but clone a plan comparable to it. Further discussion was held for Executive Session, contracts, with Comptroller John Cushman. IV. 2. Mosquito Program on Fishers Island. Justice Evans advised that they are trying to get the County to cover the whole program. The issue is that they need a certified applicator on staff. The county holds the permit, but the Town can't run it without an applicator. The Town Board directed Assistant Town Attorney Mary Wilson to contact the County in relation to their taking over the whole program. IV. 3. Request for refund on building permit. Building Department Head Edward Forrester does not recommend a refund in this instance. The Town Board concurs with his decision. IV. 4. Painting of the Human Resource Ceuter. Mrs. McKeighan was informing the Town Board that she has asked Ray Jacobs to do the work and has the money in her budget for the paint. The Town Board gave their consent of the project. IV. 5. Request from Assessors for seasonal help. Resolutiou numbers 16 & 17 were placed on the agenda. IV. 8. CSEA Computer Training. Councilman Romanelli will check on this to clarifY and update the Town Board before accepting anything free. IV. 9. Fees. The Town Board is of the opinion that all fees should pay for the cost of operating the department. This item will be further discussed in the future. 11:44 a.m. The Town Board reviewed Resolution Numbers 1 through 17 to be voted upon at the 7:30 p.m. meeting. 11 :46m. (2:00 p.m. Appointment) John Sepenoski, Technician II, Data Processing Department appeared before the Town Board with regard to ACS and responsibility of the telephone system. The Town Board said that these items should be discussed in Executive Session under contracts and persounel. On motion by Justice Louisa Evans, seconded by Councilman John Romanelli, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board hereby enters into Executive Session at 11:47 a.m. for the purpose of discussing contracts and personnel. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was declared ADOPTED. The Town Board recessed for lunch at 12:55 p.m. The Town Board reconvened their Executive Session at 1 :45 p.m. On motion of Justice Louisa Evans, seconded by Councilman Craig Richter, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board hereby exits from this Executive Session at 2:15 p.m. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. 2:20 p.m. Appointment, Valerie Scopaz LWRP - Ms. Scopaz advised that she met with the Park Districts, but has not received any feedback from them yet. The Town Board was given a draft intra- office document to review. She explained that she underlined all of the changes in the text. Most of it is at the end of the document. Ms. Scopaz reported meeting with several department heads, but so far she has not received any negative comments. She referred to her November 8th memorandum and reviewed the revisions with the Town Board. She asked them to have any comments ready by the next regular Town Board meeting on November 28, 2000. Supervisor Cochran advised that both of the propositions on the ballot went down on election day. She spoke about her budget reflecting a 8.69 % increase, which is a very tight budget in light of the 16% increase in medical costs This work session ended at 3:25 p.m. REGULAR MEETING A Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board was held on November 14, 2000, at the Southold Town Hall, Southold, New York. Supervisor Cochran opened the meeting at 7:30 P.M. with the Pledge of Allegiance led by Town Clerk Neville. Present: Supervisor Jean W. Cochran Justice Louisa P. Evans Councilman William D. Moore Councilman John M. Romanelli Councilman Brian G. Murphy Councilman Craig A. Richter * * * Town Clerk Elizabeth A. Neville Town Attorney Gregory A. Yakaboski SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: May I have a motion to approve the bills from November 14, 2000? Moved by Councilman Richter, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was RESOLVED that the following bills be and hereby are ordered paid: General Fund Whole Town bills in the amount of $34,222.18; General Fund Part Town bills in the amount of $723.18; Highway Fund Part Town bills in the amowlt of $5,891.12; Open space Capital fund bills in the amount of $5,800.00; Employee Health Benefit Plan bills in the amount of $38,129.00; Fishers Island Ferry District bills in the amount of $30,897.93; Refuse and Garbage District bills in the amount of $2,930.86; Southold Wastewater District bills in the amount of $7,796.21; Fishers Island Ferry District Agency and Trust bills in the amount of$709.58. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: A motion to approve the minutes of October 30th, 2000, Special Town Board meeting? Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Murphy, it was RESOLVED that the minutes of the October 30, 2000, Special Town Board meeting be and hereby are approved. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: I have an additional one here the Board isn't familiar with yet, but a Special Meeting Tuesday, November 21st at 12:00 noon. That will after our next Tuesday's Work Session, and there may be some things we have to take action on. Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Justice Evans, it was RESOLVED that a Special Meeting of the Southold Town Board be held at 12:00 P.M., Tuesday, November 21, 2000 at the Southold Town Hall, Southold, New York. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: To set the next regular Town Board meeting for November 28,2000, 4:30 P.M. Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Richter, it was RESOLVED that the next regular meeting of the Southold Town Board will be held at 4:30 P.M., Tuesday, November 28,2000 at the Southold Town Hall, Southold, New York. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 11114/00 2 SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Just a point of information while we are talking about setting different meetings. The Town Board is looking at making the meetings for the evening moving it up from 7:30 to 7:00 with the winter months, and it getting dark earlier, and so forth. We would really would like to get going at 7:00 rather than 7:30, so we will discussing that, and I think you can pretty much watch for the change on that. 1. REPORTS. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: As you know the Town Board receives Reports from the different committees and from the different departments each month. They are public information. They are available in the Town Clerk's Office. Ifthere is a particular area you have interest in, and would like to know more it please come in, and we will be able to share that information with you. 1. Southold Town Justice Bruer's Monthly Court Report for October 2000. 2. Southold Town Justice Price's Monthly Court Report for October 2000. 3. Southold Town Justice Evans' Monthly Court Report for October 2000. II.PUBLIC NOTICES. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Public Notice, each month we receive public notices from the New York State DEC. There is an application for maintenance dredging at Elizabeth Lane in Southold. Written comments by December 8th. New York State DEC notice of application of Leslie Gazzola, maintenance dredging Elizabeth Lane, Southold. Written comments by December 8th. New York State DEC notice of complete application of the U.S. Department of Agriculture to operate two exit vacuum autoclaves for the treatment of regulated medical waste and a shredder for the subsequent destruction of regulated medical waste sharps generated on sit at Biolevel3 in Buildings 101 and 102 of the Plum Island Animal Disease Center located at Plum Island. Written comments by December 12, 2000. 1. New York State DEC, Notice of Complete Application of Cheryl Hansen to maintain dredge at Elizabeth lane, Southold Town (SCTM #10000-78-5-3). Written comments by December 8, 2000. 2. New York State DEC, Notice of Complete Application of Leslie Gazzola to maintenance dredge at Elizabeth Lane, Southold Town (SCTM#1000-78-5-2). Written comments by December 8, 2000. 3. New York State DEC, Notice of Complete Application of U.S. Department of Agriculture to operate two exit vacuum autoclaves for the treatment of regulated medical waste and a shredder for the subsequent destruction of regulated medical waste sharps generated on site at Biosafety Level 3 in Bldgs. 101 and 102 of the Plum Island Animal Disease Center located at Plum Island, Southold Town. Written comments by December 1,2000. III. COMMUNICATION None. N. PUBLIC HEARINGS. 1. 8:00 P.M. on Views on Local Housing and Community Development needs to be met with the Community Development Block Grant Funds (#148,000). 2. 8:05 P.M. on amending the Amount of the Bond Resolution for the Payloader for the Solid Waste Management District. V. RESOLUTION. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: As you know the Town Board has a policy that prior to the Town Board adopting the resolutions that are on the agenda we would be very happy to have your input or any comments you want to share with us. There is also time at the end of the meeting for any Town business that you would like to bring before the Board. Before we go into resolutions, as always, being Supervisor you get some privileges that are nice things to do, and one of the things we have always done, which is tradition as far as hiring Police Officers, or promotions within the Department, they always come before the Town Board to receive their badge that they will be wearing for their job upgrade. So, at this time I would like to introduce Officer Perkins and his family, and Chief Cochran. Congratulations. #18 11/14/00 3 Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Moore, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of South old hereby appoints Richard Perkins as a full- time Police Sergeant in the Southold Town Police Department at a base salary of$81,430.00 per year, effective November 15, 2000. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Would anyone like to address the Town Board in relation to any of the resolutions? (No response.) Ifnot, number one. #1 Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Moore, it was WHEREAS, each year Americans generate more than 217 million tons of municipal solid waste. That's more than 4.4 pounds per person per day. While the nation has reached an overall recycling rate of more than 28 percent, much more can be done, especially in closing the loop and purchasing products made with recycled content; and WHEREAS, to focus the nation's attention on the importance of recycling and closing the loop, businesses, industries, government agencies, nonprofit organizations, and individuals have joined together to celebrate America Recycles Day and are encouraging their employers, staff, customers, membership, and all citizens to pledge to buy more recycled-content products starting on November 15; and WHEREAS, participating in America Recycles Day is one way citizens can help raise awareness about the need to reduce waste by reusing, recycling, and buying recycled products; and WHEREAS theme of American Recycles Day is "For Our Children's Future...Buy Recycled Today"; and WHEREAS, state and community leaders need to spread the word about the excellent recycling programs they have established, the growth of markets for recyclable materials, the importance of buying recyclable materials, and the importance of buying recycled products; now, therefore be it RESOLVED that the Town Board ofthe Town of South old hereby proclaims Wednesday, November 15, 2000 as "AMERICAN RECYCLES DAY" in the Town of Southold. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. #2 Moved by Councilman Richter, seconded by Justice Evans, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of South old hereby grants permission to Elizabeth Stathis to attend a New York State Archives and Records Administration Workshop on Grant Application for 2001 at the Western Suffolk BOCES at Dix Hills, New York, on Wednesday, November 29, 2000 and necessary travel and meal expenses shall be a legal charge to the Town Clerk 2000 budget A.1410.4.600.300. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. #3 Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Justice Evans, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the bid of Petro Heating Services and Fuels, at a price of plus $.0629 per gallon over the Tosco Reseller Rack Price, for supplying the Town of Southold with Gasoline for the 2001 Calendar Year, all in accordance with bid specifications. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. Abstain: Councilman Romanelli. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. #4 Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Richter, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the bid of Petro Heating Services and Fuels, at a price of plus $.0690 per gallon over the Tosco Reseller Rack Price, for supplying the Town of Southold with Diesel Fuel for the 2001 Calendar Year, all in accordance with bid specifications. 11/14/00 4 Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. Abstain: Councilman Romanelli. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. #5 Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Justice Evans, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the bid of Petro Heating Services and Fuels, Inc. at a price of plus $.12 per gallon over the Tosco Reseller Rack Price, for supplying the Town of Southold with Heating Fuel Oil for the 2001 Calendar Year, all in accordance with bid specifications. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. Abstain: Councilman Romanelli. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. #6 Moved by Councilman Moore, seconded by Justice Evans, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the bid of International Salt Company, Inc., in the amount of$44.80 per ton delivered, for 500 tons (more or less as maybe needed) for Bulk Salt for Snow and Ice Control for the Southold Town Highway Department, for the period of November I, 2000 through November I, 2001, all in accordance with the bid specifications. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. #7 Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Murphy, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board ofthe Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs Town Clerk Elizabeth Neville to advertise for sale the surplus motor vehicles located at the Police and Highway Departments. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. #8 Moved by Councilman Richter, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of South old hereby accepts the bid of Charles Greenblatt, Inc. to supply police uniforms to the Southold Town Police Department for the calendar year 2001, all in accordance with bid specifications and the approval of the Town Attorney. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. #9 Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Councilman Richter, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of South old hereby accepts the bid proposal of East End Cleaners for cleaning the uniforms of the members of the Southold Town Police Department for the calendar year 2001, all in accordance with bid specifications and the approval of the Town Attorney. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. #10 Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of South old has met at the time and place specified in the notice of public hearings on the Preliminary Budget for the fiscal year beginning on January 1,2001, and heard all persons desiring to be heard thereon; now, therefore, be it RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town Board of the Town of Southold does hereby adopt such Preliminary Budget, as amended, as the Annual Budget of this Town for the fiscal year beginning on the 1st day of January 2001; and be it FURTHER RESOLVED that such budget as adopted by this Board be entered in detail in the minutes ofthe proceedings of this Town Board; and be it 11/14/00 5 FURTHER RESOLVED that the Town Clerk ofthe Town of South old shall prepare and certify copies of said annual budget as adopted by the T own Board of the Town of Southold, together with the estimates, if any, adopted pursuant to Section 202a, Subdivision 5 of the Town Law, and deliver a copy thereof to the County Legislature of the County of Suffolk. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. #11 Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Justice Evans, it was WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Southold has met at the time and place specified in the notice of public hearings on the Preliminary Capital Budget for the fiscal year beginning on January 1,2001, and heard all persons desiring to be heard thereon, now, therefore, be it RESOLVED that the Town Board ofthe Town of Southold does hereby adopt such Preliminary Capital Budget, as amended, as the Annual Capital Budget ofthis Town for the fiscal year beginning on the 1st January 2001; and be it FURTHER RESOLVED that such capital budget as adopted by this Board be entered in detail in the minutes of the proceedings of this Town Board; and be it FURTHER RESOLVED that the Town Clerk of the Town of South old shall prepare and certify copies of said annual Capital Budget as adopted by the Town Board of the Town of Southold, together with the estimates, if any, adopted pursuant to Section 202a, Subdivision 5 of the Town Law, and deliver a copy thereofto the County Legislature of the County of Suffolk Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: We are going to hold 12, 13, 14, and 15, and they relate to the zone change on Route 48, and w(~ have not heard from our Planning Board as of yet, and until we hear from them we will change the zone. #16 Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Richter, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the General Fund Whole Town 2000 budget as follows: To: A. 1355,1,300. 100 Assessors, Personal Services Temporary Seasonal Employ $505.00 From: A. 1355.4.500.200 Assessors, Fees for Services Appraisals Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. $505.00 #17 Moved by Councilman Moore, seconded by Councilman Murphy, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of South old hereby appoints Christopher Westgate as a seasonal Student Intern 1 in the Southold Town Assessor's Office at a salary of $8.00 per hour, effective December 18, 2000 through January 15, 2001. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Number 18 is a resolution appointing Richard Perkins as a full-time Sergeant in Southold, which we have already acted upon. There is one add-on in relation to performance guaranteed agreement, Peconic Landing deposit of Performance Bond money, Suffolk County Bank. #19 Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Justice Evans, it was WHEREAS, Peconic Landing is required to provide a letter of credit, cash, or other 11/14/00 6 security satisfactory to the Town to serve as a performance guarantee for the total cost of furnishing, installing, connecting and completing all of the street grading, paving, storm drainage and utilities for the project known as "Peconic Landing, be it RESOLVED by the Town Board of the Town of South old that the Supervisor, Jean W. Cochran is hereby authorized to execute a Performance Guarantee Agreement whereby Peconic Landing will deposit "Performance Bond" money at Suffolk County National Bank in the sum of $3,964,216.00 subject to the approval of the Town Attorney. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: That is the end of our planned resolutions. We have one hearing at 8:00, and one a 8:05. I think we will take input from the public for the thirteen minutes we have on the clock, and then at 8 :00 o'clock I am going to have to stop taking input and recess for the public hearings. If you would still like to address the Town Board we will go back to that, but when a public hearing is scheduled for a specific time that is when we must do it. So, at this point is there anyone that would like to talk to the Board on any given topic. Anna? ANNA COSIMANO: Good evening. My name is Anna Cosimano. I am a resident of Southold and President of the North Fork Animal Welfare League. In 1999 the North Fork Animal Welfare League was asked to sign a three-year contract by the Town of Southold to provide a State mandated animal care and control under Article: 7 of the New York State Department of Agriculture and Markets for the town. The League signed this contract solely and exclusively based on the Town's offer to finally after fifteen years build a new facility on Peconic Lane. The League immediately went to work, and within weeks James Richter from the Town's Engineers Department drew up plans at a preliminary cost estimate of $538,000 for a 7,000 square foot facility. The League then met with Town officials, Jean Cochran and John Romanelli to submit the preliminary cost estimates together with the site plans. At this meeting Mr. Romanelli suggested the Town take a bond to cover the cost of a new facility. When Town officials just recently released their Preliminary Capital Budget I was shocked that the Town was not going to fully fund a new Shelter. Jean Cochran and John Romanelli never contacted the North Fork Animal Welfare League to inform us of their Band-Aid approach to fix what only can be described as a shelter that is hemorrhaging. These are just a few of the dangerous and hazardous conditions at the facility, poor drainage systems, floors incorrectly cantered resulting in puddles in kennels and perpetually damp floors, failed ventilation system, no system for air exchange, air conditioning system basically nonexistent, ancient donated window units in four units of entire facility, outdated and faulty guillotine doors on kennels, unsafe and inefficient, dog kennels deteriorating, unsafe and unsanitary, no commercial washer or dryer, electric hookups inadequate and unsafe, exterior stockade fencing is old and needs replacing, dogs escape, outside exercise impossible to sanitize, dirt needs to be concerted. The North Fork Animal Welfare League will be meeting with the Town officials at their request tomorrow, 11: 15, with the hope that this monetary issue can be resolved once and for all. Jean, I have a question. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Anna that is wrong. ANNA COSIMANO: What? SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: I offered that we get together to develop a committee to begin the process. There is $250,000 in the Budget to begin the first phase. ANNA COSIMANO: Then why did I make an appointment for tomorrow? SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: That is what you are going to do. What I offered was that we form a committee and begin to work on this. I assumed when I saw your name on my calendar that you were coming in so that we could have some input from the Board and some of your people to form a committee to begin the work. ANNA COSIMANO: Oh, because I had my committee, and I thought you had yours. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: It is not your committee, my committee, it is our committee to solve a problem. ANNA COSIMANO: Fine, so now do I have to make another appointment? 11114/00 7 SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: No. Come in tomorrow, because first you form a committee, then you form the agenda. ANNA COSIMANO: Okay. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: We haven't formed the agenda and what we want to address as this first meeting. ANNA COSIMANO: Well, you won't have all of your committee per se? SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: No, not yet. We have to agree on a committee first. ANNA COSIMANO: Okay. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: That's what I thought you had made the appointment for. ANNA COSIMANO: No. I thought we were going to sit down and talk tomorrow. Fine. I will see you tomorrow. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Tomorrow morning with your committee. Hopefully by then we will have ours and we can take it from there. ANNA COSIMANO: Okay. Thank you. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Anyone else like to address the Town Board? Yes, ma'am? SALLY STERN: Hello. My name is Sally Stem. I am a resident of Greenport, and I don't quite understand what you mean by agree on a committee. I don't understand what you mean by agree on a committee. Are you going to negate someone from a committee because their personality or their attitude does not agree with yours? I just simply want an understanding of the semantics you are using. I didn't say agree with you. I said they don't agree with you. I would like to know what you mean by what you had said. That is a simple statement. I would like a simple answer. COUNCILMAN RICHTER: I think what the Supervisor is talking about is how many are going to on the committee. I am sorry, Jean, I don't mean to talk for you. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: I believe that is what I said, how many, you have three, we have three, what our agenda is going to be, how we are going to begin to try to solve the problem. SALLY STERN: Okay. You didn't clarify, and I simple asked for a clarification. Thank you. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: You are welcome. Anyone else like to address the Town Board? Mr. Bitses, non-political, please. No demonstrations. No demonstrations, please, or we will recess again. JAMES BITSES: No demonstrations. The reason she said is that because the last time we were here the other day I was talking about hitting mules on the side of the head with a two by four. In any event, of course no demonstrations. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Thank you. JAMES BITSES: The North Fork Animal Welfare League is the only agency of government that contributes to the budget. We contribute about $150,000 a year, and how do we raise that money, money that the taxpayer would normally have to pony up? We are man digging, we are beggars, we go around town, and each year we raise $150,000 for the benefit of an agency oftown government, the animal shelter. Now, why is the animal shelter an agency of town government? Because it supplies an essential ingredient that is absolutely necessary for human life. Believe it or not. It supplies unconditional love. It supplies unconditional love. There are children in Rumania and Hungary that from the time of birth they are not touched, they are not picked up, they are not cared for, and by the age of two or three they are destroyed as human beings. They become zombies. They are no longer capable of learning. They are no more capable of interacting with other people. I cite that to indicate to you the depth, the need, of the human mind for unconditional love, and that is what we sell. Whoop, 11/14/00 8 we don't sell it. You can't sell love. You have to give it away. You have to give it away, and that is what we are in business of doing. On behalf of the Town we take all the strays, and we try to find a home for them, and this is the one unique, one unique shelter in this entire northeast area, and possibly in the whole nation that operates on a no-kill basis. We don't kill our animals unless there is a vote of the Board of Directors. That is a technicality, and occasionally a sick animal has to be put down. Now, what is the effect of all our elIorts? The affect of all our efforts is that the Town of Southold pays very little for this governmental agency. What we are asking for now is the minimum. Weare asking for quarters in which to keep the animals that are fairly sanitary, and that will do away with the terrible conditions that they live in now. We are asking for possibly $400,000, the price of a park, or the price of three years effort by the North Fork Animal Welfare League, because that is the amount we put in over a period of about two and a half or three years. So, again, I ask the Board, I ask the people of Southold back us on this, and to help us on this, and let us build a new animal shelter that is worthy of the animals that we have there, and is worthy of us as human beings, as purveyors of unconditional love. Thank you. COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: Jean, can Ijust say something. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Yes, if you promise you will stay calm. COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: I promise I will stay calm. I just want to make everyone aware that we have a contract that was signed August 23, 1999. It was three-year contract signed by Anna Cosimano, President, and Jean Cochran, and it is notarized. This is signed last year, and it is a three- year contract that is the subject of the conversation, and I just want to read one portion of it, so everyone knows. It says Town duties, that during the term of this contract the Town will permit the League to occupy and operate the Town owned shelter at Peconic, New York, for the purpose of providing dog control office services and shelter services for the Town until the League constructs it's own shelter on Town owned property. This was in the contract. We just didn't make this up. This was in the contract that we signed last year, and Anna signed, so, you know so everyone knows where the Town is coming from. We really were under the assumption that we had an agreement, and we are putting a good step forward to make things even better, but this is the contract that is written, until the League constructs it's own shelter on Town owned property, and it is here, and anyone can have a copy of it. Anybody. COUNCILMAN MURPHY: If I may just point out also there is a second section of that contract on page two we are talking about what they call the Town duties, where it says the League duties, and it says, operate and maintain at it's own expense Town Animal Shelter on Peconic Lane, Peconic, New York, as a shelter for all dogs seized by it's dog control officers for lost, strayed, homeless dogs. In clause two, b and d of the contract shall terminate if the League constructs it's own shelter facility on land leased from the town. The remaining terms of the contract shall continue in effect except that all dogs will be kept in the league shelter instead of the town shelter. So, the gist of the contract that was signed this year is that the North Fork Animal Welfare League was going to build a shelter. I mean, this is your own agreement right here. ANNA COSIMANO: Was it two years ago in December that the Town was not going to give us any money, and we had a work session? You, Jean, were the last person to ask me if we were still going to put a shelter up, and I said, absolutely not, the Town Board can't be trusted. Well, you put in the contract again, saying it is the same contract, and yes, I signed that contract without even realizing it was still in. At that work session I was very adamant about not putting a shelter up. Why? Because the Town. Board couldn't be trusted, and that was two years ago. That was the time Alice Hussie was talking about. Okay? So, I may have signed that legal agreement trusting the Town again, and I am sorry. TOWN ATTORNEY Y AKABOSKI: Anna, I got to jump in. I am sorry I have to jump in. That contract was delivered to the North Fork Animal Welfare League prior to anyone coming in to sign anything. If you didn't read it, please, do not accuse...I drafted that contract, and Mary Wilson in my office. We did not sneak anything in. ANNA COSIMANO: I know you didn't. TOWN ATTORNEY Y AKABOSKI: It was delivered prior. I just took it from what you just said, I just heard you, that something got snuck in without somebody having the ability to read prior to signing it, and that is not what happened. 11/14/00 9 ANNA COSIMANO: No. No. I take full responsibility. TOWN ATTORNEY Y AKABOSKI: I heard it different. I apologize. ANNA COSIMANO: Not reading the entire contract. I will take responsibility. I signed it without reading fully. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Anna, I don't think there has ever been a time that we were going to take something away. We appreciate the job you are doing. We try to tell you that. Weare trying to solve a problem here. ANNA COSIMANO: Jean, you were giving us no money. COUNCILMAN MURPHY: No increase, Anna, not no money. ANNA COSIMANO: Exactly, no increase. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Okay, that is different, but you were going to receive money. ANNA COSIMANO: And what was it, four days before Christmas you finally came up with $3,000, but you were adamantly against giving us this increase at the Work Session. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: I don't recall. ANNA COSAMANO: Well, I do, and that is when you asked me, are you still building your shelter? SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: The newspaper reported on Thursday, September 15'\ that you were for $250,000. You were going to build the shelter. Weare not here to argue back and forth, Anna. ANNA COSAMANO: No, we are not. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: We are here to solve a problem. We have never said we want to kill dogs. We have never said you are not doing a good job, and like I explained to you at the budget hearing there are some things that we have to do in piecemeal. We don't have money to do the whole project all the time. Five years I have waited for a rug in that front hall. We have done one office at a time. This is true. New cars, we buy two a year. I put money in the budget last year to paint the Rec Center, but we had to forego that because we needed heat. The Town facilities have been neglected for so long it was my thinking that this finally would start the process. I would like to have a quarter of a million dollars. There's a lot I could do with it for the Town, but I think we should try to solve it instead of bicker back and fi)rth. ANNA COSAMANO: Fine. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: I have to recess for public hearings. BARNEY COSAMANO: Why do you stop and have a five minute recess? Are you afraid? SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Barney, I am not recessing it. BARNEY COSAMANO: You are afraid to oppose her because she knows the law. COUNCILMAN MURPHY: We are not recessing. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: You are out ofline. We will recess if this nonsense continues. BARNEY COSAMANO: 1 generate a million dollars a year into this town in taxes, and you give us a difficult problem for a lousy shelter. You should be ashamed of yourselves. Elected officers. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Yes, we are. Barney. BARNEY COSAMANO: 1 don't talk to idiots. 11/14/00 10 SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Don't. Fine, it makes my life easier. What I said earlier is I have to recess for a public hearing that has been advertised in the paper to be heard at this time. I said, I have one at 8:00 and I have one at 8:05, and we will come back after the public hearings to any input you people may have. Now, I would like a motion to recess for the public hearings. Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Councilman Moore, it was RESOLVED that this Town Board meeting be recessed at this time, 8:05 P.M., for the purpose of holding public hearings. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Richter, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Romanelli, Councilman Moore, Justice Evans, Supervisor Cochran. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. Meeting reconvened at 8:12 P.M. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Is there anyone who would like to address the Board? TERESE MCGINIS: Good evening, Terese McGinnis, I am the Vice-President of the North Animal Welfare League. I think if ever a sentence could be used to describe this debate it would be that no good deed ever goes unpunished, and I think what the residents and taxpayers of the Town of Southold have to understand clearly that the North Fork Animal Welfare League is the only private non-profit that will contract with a municipality to do all in animal care and control, and the reason why these organizations will not participate with municipal governments is a textbook example. The example that this Board has set this evening. An organization whose members get up each day, and do the work of government with no salaries, and no benefits, and then they appear before their Board. Now, we came before the Board in a meeting with Mr. Romanelli, Mrs. Cochran, and Jamie Richter. At that time Mr. Romanelli suggested that a bond be taken to fund the full $500,000 for a new facility. We are at this tragic and disgraceful impact, because Mr. Romanelli has failed to ever speak to anyone from the North Fork Animal Welfare League to advise them that we were not going to get a fully funded shelter. Is this an example of government at it's best? Mr. Romanelli, as liaison to the animal shelter has never participated in the life of the facility. However, he is paid a salary to act as the liaison. The members of the North Fork Animal Welfare League work each day with diligence and kindness, and yet for all of their hard work what we have seen here tonight is an example of the disrespect that this organization is given in this community, and I think it is really incumbent upon this Board to recoguize the work that this League has accomplished in this community. You have a stellar reputation within the business for operating with a private humane organization, and I think it would be incumbent upon Mr. Romanelli to notify the members of the North Fork Animal Welfare League. You had between April and November to notify the League that you were not going to bond for the full amount for a facility, and I think that this is disgraceful conduct on the part of any elected official. Weare doing the work. We want to continue to do the work in this community. We save the residents and taxpayers in this community hundreds of thousands of dollars each year, hundred of thousands of dollars, so the question before this Board is, are you right now interested in adding another layer of government to this community? I think that the residents and taxpayers would say a rebounding no. We are not being greedy. We only ask that you fully fund the cost for a new facility. Thank you. FRANK CARLIN: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen of the Board. Frank Carlin, Laurel. I just want to say a few things on this animal shelter again. You know this animal shelter was built over 31 years ago. It was desigued only for a temporary use, not a permanent use. Unfortunately for the past fifteen years it had to be a temporary use. Also what this meeting here tonight reminds me of what is going on in Florida, looking for technicalities. Let's stop the technicalities. Let's get the job done, and give them the money somehow. Float another bond. You float bonds for all over this town. I have seen in the budget. Oh incidentally I took this budget home. When I picked up last Thursday, November 9th when I was at the shelter meeting, and I didn't come back in the evening because we had a long afternoon, as you know. But, since then I reviewed this 32 page budget, and there is a lot of things in there that I could question you on. I am going to question you on only two things tonight, but I will catch it next year. You are allowing $250,000 for the Strawberry Patch on Route 48. Why would you want to do that when it is in the process of being bought by the Suffolk County? SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: We are not spending $250,000. FRANK CARLIN: That what you said in the budget here in the newspaper. 11/14/00 11 SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: The County is buying it. FRANK CARLIN: Then what are you doing spending the Town's money? SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Wait a minute. You are talking about the development of the property. The County buys the property. FRANK CARLIN: But, what are you doing devoting $250,000 to a private organization to start with? I will put it that way then. COUNCILMAN MURPHY: What private organization? It will become a Town park. COUNCILMAN MOORE: It will be a Town facility. FRANK CARLIN: What is a Town facility? COUNCILMAN MOORE: That park will be a Town facility. The County will buy it. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: The County will be purchasing the land, and we will be developing it. It IS ours. FRANK CARLIN: They will give it to you? SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Yes, indeed. COUNCILMAN MURPHY: Yes. FRANK CARLIN: Then why the Strawberry Patch then? COUNCILMAN MURPHY: It was just a name that was put on it, Frank. It could be named anything. It could be called the Frank Carlin Park. FRANK CARLIN: But, it is going to be used for activities, right? SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Frank, it is a Greenway Program with the County, and it has to do with recreation, and as you know we have always been park poor in the Town of Southold, and we have tried to plan for the future in relation to parks, and the County purchases the land. They give it to the Town, but it is the Town's obligation to develop recreational facilities on the land. FRANK CARLIN: So, then you are going to develop recreational facilities, and the Lions will not be able to use it for their Strawberry Festival, right? SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Yes, they will. FRANK CARLIN: How can you do it both ways? You want to have a park and Strawberry Festival. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: The used it on the school grounds for years. COUNCILMAN MURPHY: The Boy Scouts will be able to use it for the car shows. There will be multiple uses for it. FRANK CARLIN: You know about the County's Greenway Program, don't you? SUPER VISOR COCHRAN: I think I know something about it. FRANK CARLIN: (tape change.)That probably where they are getting it what is going on here. Do you agree with me on that? COUNCILMAN MOORE: That is correct. 11114/00 12 FRANK CARLIN: Do you agree with me on that? Good. Now I will go to the next question. Maybe I will make a million dollars. How about the Peconic Lane Park, you started out you said, $250,000, now you went up to $275,000, Peconic Park Park? SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: That is also being developed. FRANK CARLIN: How long has the park been there? What do you mean, developed? I don't get what you mean by developed. What are you developing there for $250,000? SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Peconic Lane Park will be paid for over a five year period. FRANK CARLIN: Where are you getting that money from? SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: It will be through the taxpayers, tax revenues, but a five year phase-in program. Isn't Peconic five? Three on Peconic. Fort Corchaug is five. FRANK CARLIN: I still don't agree with you on this Strawberry property on Route 48, though. COUNCILMAN MURPHY: What don't you agree with, Frank? FRANK CARLIN: I just don't agree this town giving any money over there for that, when you look for that kind of money for these poor animals here. If you had extra money, fine, but you claim you can't put a rug on the floor but you are going to give out these $190,000 and $250,000.Let me go on to another subject here. Last May Brooklyn Union Gas was putting in a pipe in front of my house, and a couple of days later a woman stopped, and said, Mr. Carlin, boy, are we going to get water? It looked like she didn't know it was gas line, you know. Are we going to get water here? I said, no, we are not going to get water here, no such way. So, then when she drove off a light bulb struck and lit up in my mind. I had public gas in my house since 1929. Public gas had been installed all the way along the Main Road since the 1920's, and yet we can't get public water. Here we are 75 years after, which is very important accessory and utility. It is amazing. Again, when I mentioned to Bill Pell back in 1982 the Town being in the Stone Age, fifty years behind the times. That is one of them. You see Greenport incorporated village, 2,000 people they had their own city water for years until Suffolk County Water Authority came and bought them out for three and a half million dollars. I was happy to see the people at the landfill are finally going to get water. They should have had that two years ago, when we first started in with Suffolk County Water Authority. One thing I want to get straightened out here. Suffolk County Water Authority is not run by the County. It is a private organization. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: It is created by New York State. FRANK CARLIN: It is not by Suffolk County. It is called Suffolk County Water Authority. It is not run by the County. We knew about that water down there for years back as far as 1970 that area, and I am glad to see these people, again, they should have had water before. I am going to bring up a point here how we lag things in this town in this town, and maybe I can connect this with the animal shelter, because we knew about that problem for years that they had bad water. In fact, it was investigated by the DEC, and H2M Engineering back 1987, and they found the water was contaminated with pollutants, oils and different chemical, and you know yourself a lot of your young people on the Board here, but Madam Supervisor will follow me on this one also, that we had an open cesspool dump there. For years we used to bring in raw sewage and dump it in there. Okay, here we go. Here's pictures of it that had taken in 1984. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: That was the lagoon. FRANK CARLIN: All those years that was sinking into the ground causing this area to be contaminated. Something was supposed to be done about it. So far I guess it wasn't. Oh, you can have this copy. This is what I am talking about, what they come up with, and what they recommended. They recommended for the Town to look into it. Not the pictures. That other one is yours. It is very interesting. I hope you all read it. What I am saying is, why do we have to pay $350,000 to run a water main down there when Suffolk County Water Authority is putting water all over the town? Why do we have to pay to put it in there? Why? COUNCILMAN MOORE: I will give you their answer. 11114/00 13 FRANK CARLIN: Oh, sure, you are going to give me their answer, but you should have an answer, too, because you are the ones that pay the $350,000. COUNCILMAN MOORE: I will give you their answer, then we are going to squeeze it. Their answer is, that they can not just give a water supply system to a community if it can't sustain itself by terms of hookups they get. That is their answer. We have the opportunity through Federal Funds to justify and use Federal Funds through Community Development. That was the subject ofthe public hearing before that Mr. McMahon referenced. There is a supply of Federal money we are allowed to use for this purpose. That is exactly what we are doing. In the meantime we are going to go back and we are going to squeeze those guys, the Water Authority, and say, listen we have come up with how much money Mr. McMahon can squeeze out of the Federal govermnent side of the budget, and we are going to go back to them and say, now, we have gotten this far, how much more can you carry now. Can you justifY under you policies and procedures how much the cost can be carried? Just so you know two years ago the cost was in excess of a million dollars. The water supply was going to be much farther away, and we were all scratching our heads where is that money coming from? It was only a month ago that the Chairman came back and said, hey, we have another possible site much, much closer. In fact it is under Town control, and that is how it came to be that this thing came around much quicker than we first expected. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: And a lot less than a million dollars. FRANK CARLIN: Let me start again on the phase here. Here is a picture of 1997. Mr. LaGrande sitting at a table with all the Town Board members here. Here is Joe Townsend. Here is Ruth Oliva. Here is Planning. Here is the Building Inspector. He is sitting at the table with his map here, and explaining how he is going to put the water in. Well, if! was the Supervisor at that time I would have asked him this question. Are you capable of supplying all Southold with water, letting everybody have a fair shake ofthe pie, and see what he would have said? COUNCILMAN MOORE: He would have said, no. FRANK CARLIN: Then I would have hesitated then. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: He may have said, I will try. FRANK CARLIN: If he couldn't I would have made sure that the people who really needed it go it before anyone else, and that would have been the landfill. I know Captain Kidd Estate needed, but he is going to put water 200 feet back of my house into the golf course, twenty-nine home all of sudden, isn't he? That is going to have water, right? I want to tell you something. The nearest hydrant on the Main Road in Laurel. COUNCILMAN MOORE: Frank, we are working on solving this problem. FRANK CARLIN: Just listen to me, will you. Maybe it might help you a little bit. From Bray Avenue, from the auto body repair shop there all the way down to the Laurel Post Office the nearest hydrant is picked up by Riverhead at the mile and a quarter, and do people realize that if you live in a fire district.. .this is only one example now. If you live in a fire hydrant area you get a reduction in your house insurance from anywhere from $100 up. But, that is minor. The protection is what counts. We don't have even a fire hydrant there. You see what I am talking about? That is what I would have said to him. Nassau Point can get it, thought, right? COUNCILMAN MOORE: Frank, I guess I am missing the point here. We are trying to get water around the landfill. I am frustrated, Frank. FRANK CARLIN: Why didn't these people have number one priority, because they live by the landfill? And don't give me this about what they say, well, we have 50%. See? And don't say that my water is, hope you are not going to be another Tom Wickham. Don't say that my water, my house, by the park is good, because I want to give you a facts here. I want to give you fact here now. That they drove a well when they put the information center up there, and that was in '87. Kreiger had to go back last year, and go drill down 130 feet to get them good water, because the water was no good. It was so bad the toilet water was brown, and the sprinklers plugged up. I spent $1,000 already on one filter to soften my water, and now I am told I need another $1,000 to take the acid affect out of the water that is eating up my pipes. So, don't let nobody tell you that we have beautiful water there, either, because we 11114/00 14 don't have it there. You can't tell me if you can run a pipe, a line, in the field at the golf course because it is only 500 feet from our Main Road someway a line couldn't be run, not under the bridge to make it easy, but somewhere along. In fact, I will give them permission to run under my property to the Main Road to continue down there to let everybody have the water, and don't use this 50% jazz, because everybody should have water. Again, living in the Stone Age fifty years back, these are utilities that you need. By golly, if we can have gas for 75 years along the Main Road we should have had water by now. This looks like the same example as going on with the animal shelter. My father always told me, never put off what to do today for tomorrow. That is what you did for fifteen years for these people on the animal shelter, also. You can't let grass grow under your feet. You should take a lesson from Kapell, Mayor Kapell, he don't let grass grow under his feet, and I give him credit for a lot of things he does there, but he came a long way for a little town like that. There is no reason why you people can't do it either. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Thank you. Anyone else? SETH MCCARTHY: Hello, I am Seth McCarthy from East Marion. This week I learned about politics, and what I have seen really makes me glad that in five years I will be able to vote, and make a difference. Last year Supervisor Cochran came to our classroom. Our classroom was helping the dog shelter doing what we could. We had a blanket fund, and planted bulbs at the shelter. We all felt good doing what a sixth grader c,m do. Mrs. Cochran, you told us it wouldn't make a difference but it did to us. We love the animals, and making the place pretty in the spring helps the people that work there, and all the people that volunteer. Please follow through on your words, and give us the animal shelter. Thank you. DEBORAH DOTY: I am Deborah Doty. I live in Cutchogue. I would suggest to the Town Attorney regarding the language in the contract that, that language has been in that contract possibly for seven or eight years, so it is not new language as far as the Town is concerned regarding building the animal shelter. Mr. Carlin said, don't put off tomorrow what you can do today. I was talking to Bill Zitek last week, who is a vet in Southold, and he said, ten years if the Town had provided assistance they could have built a shelter for $100,000. Gary Strang had donated architectural plans, but some reason the Town never followed through on it. I know of another set of architects who also donated plans about seven years ago. Nothing has happened. We have a problem here, and it seems like its turned into a political football, and the animals are in the middle of it, and I would prefer to see the animals taken care of, because I don't want any of my pets up there. Thank you. LORRAINE ANDRADE: Hi, my name is Larraine Andrade, and I am a taxpayer in the Town of Southold. I live in Mattituck. I have been looking over this budget, and I don't want my tax dollars going to the New Suffolk Beach bathroom, $60,000.00, Peconic Lane Park and Improvements, $274,000, the Strawberry Patch Park, $190,000, Town Hall, $1,500,000. I am sure some of this money could be going to the shelter. I want my tax dollars spent at the shelter. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Thank you. Anyone else like to address the Town Board? NANCY SAW ASTYNOWICZ: Good evening. I am Nancy Sawastynowicz, and I live in East Marion. This is all very simple. This town has to provide for stray animals by New York State Law a shelter, so the Town has been talking about the shelter since the 80's. That is a waste of money, and a lot of time for everybody here, and people that come to the meetings. So, that could have saved us a lot of money right there. The League raises enough money that this town is saving money with running a kill shelter, if the League leaves, and the Town takes over it will cost the taxpayers a lot more money, and nobody really want to know what a kill shelter is like. Go to Riverhead and take a look. It is very sad. People always react to the word higher taxes, so if they start to hear that the Town will be doing the kill shelter, I think that will cause really a big problem. That $60,000 for the bathroom in New Suffolk Beach, let's put the shelter first, and then worry about them peeing down there. We can get a port-a-potty. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: That is all controlled by the Health Department, and you have to have a proper facility for people to go to the bathroom. NANCY SAW ASTYNOWICZ: How about a port-a-potty? Isn't that there? SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Or we can not open it. Once we build one it lasts for quite a few years. 11/ 14/00 15 NANCY SAWASTYNOWICZ: We are talking about man's best friend here, so let's stop wasting so much time, and just do it. Thank you. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Thank you. Anyone else like to address the Town Board that has not spoken? CORA STOLL: My name id Cora Stoll from Southold, and I have been attending these Town Board meetings for longer than I can remember always pleading the cause for the animals. I wouldn't be here for anything else. The faces have changed, most of them up here. There cooperation has not. I stood here maybe fifteen, twenty year ago, and I talked about the deplorable conditions up there. I think Supervisor Cochran knows that, and has heard me orate before, and I was told by a member of the Board at that time those dogs are in Utopia. Well, I went out of here like a wild woman because I had left there on a cold winter day. The dogs are urinating on the walls. It was freezing as the urinated. I had my husband and a friend go up with plastic and tack up on the windows because the snow was coming in. Now, we are talking fifteen, twenty years ago. Okay? I could go on and on. Then we were told, have some fundraisers. We have had fundraisers. We have had yard sales. How many fundraisers can you have? How many cocktail parties? How many dinners? How often? I think it is great to have senior citizens, I have become one since I have been pleading for the dogs, I think it is great. I think our kids are great. I think it is nice we celebrate our youth. I think it is nice we honor our seniors, like myself. I think give away dinners are nice. I think all these things are great, but I think we don't have our priorities straight here. Weare talking about dogs languishing up there in dire straits, and the faith that you people are wanting and willing to give them is just despicable, and I have lived in the town all my life, and paid taxes, and my parents, and grandparents before me, and they would turn in their graves if they ever knew what we have elected. Thank you. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Anyone else like to address the Town Board? COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: Ma'am, do you understand that this Town Board is giving $250,000 towards the shelter? CORA STOLL: Yes. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: When was the last time that happened? CORA STOLL: I don't understand why you can't float a bond the same as you do for all these other activities. I just don't get through my head why they are low on the totem pole. I think I know why they are. If you ever took money out of the budget for the youth programs, if you ever took money out for senior citizens you would have them lined up to Orient Point, but we are here. I want to tell you something else. We had a petition, and think Supervisor Cochran might have been here that time, we had gotten like 500 signatures on that, and we had only passed it around for like two days, and if we had more time we could have gotten more. What happened to it? I go around to the stores for the canisters to collect money, and thank goodness the merchants are cooperative, and everybody has been very good about putting in the canisters, but Alice Hussie at one point it came back to me, she wanted to actually deduct the money that we took in per month from what you people gave to us. Now, I have never heard of anything. COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: No one on this Board is looking to do anything along those lines. CORA STOLL: Ijust have to tell you. This is a free country and anybody can speak. COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: This is the first Board since 1987, according to Mr. Carlin, that is putting any large capital money towards a budget. CORA STOLL: But learn from what the sentiment is here. Okay? COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: I think we have by the fact that there is that kind of money even put forward for the first time since 1987. CORA STOLL: I hope so, but let's try to do a little more. Thank you. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Anyone else like to address the Town Board that has not spoken? 11/14/00 16 HARRY KELLER: I am Harry Keller, and I deal with Rottweler, Doberman, and German Shepard rescue. I have dealt with the local shelter out here on occasion. I also dealt with canine enforcement for Suffolk and Nassau County, and SPCA sometimes, and the money can raised and stuff. I mean it is not a big issue to be raised if you pull maybe a couple of grants from here, a couple of grants from here, a couple thousand from here, that will add up. Give a fundraiser from the town, and have money raised. Also, I am not looking to stir up trouble, I am getting weird faces from everybody up on the stand over there, and stuff. I don't want to start any trouble, but I am just saying that. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: People can make donations to the town. Everybody in this room can make donations. HARRY KELLER: I was away. I am only 24. I am young. I notice there is a lot of police cars, and a lot of fire engines coming in every year. Fire engines at two quarter million, half a million a pop, and stuff, and there is also a lot of police cars that run $25,000,and $30,000 a year. If we were to just cut back on maybe one or two police cars, maybe an engine or a ladder, that might cover it. I know there is more than enough equipment out here that God forbid there was a fire at a school or something like that. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Fire department is another jurisdiction taxing district. We have nothing to do with it, or schools. HARRY KELLER: Just trying to help out the issue here. I mean that is pretty much it. At one time one of my Rotwellers got had gotten out when I was away, and they took the dog. I know none of you if your dog had to spend a week in the kennel there when the cesspool was backed up you wouldn't be very happy when you came back, and you were told that we have your dog, but sorry the cesspool backed up into the kennel, and couldn't leave the dog out in one of the main cages, because the dogs dig under the fence. Who would be happy with that? It is humane that they took the dog in. Most kill shelter hold your dogs from one week, and then, bye, see you later, nice knowing you. If you were away on vacation, and God forbid one of your friends, like me, let my dog out, and the dog was a leash, and just let the dog out. I would have came home, I had no dog after fifteen years. I mean it is kind of harsh, plus when you are at an age like he is at, so that is basically it. That is basically all I wanted to say. JOANN TAMIN: My name is Joann Tamin. I live in Southold. I just wanted to say I hope that everyone can remember it is not an us and them thing. We all have hearts, and we all in this for the animals, so let's just try to work it out. Thanks. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Anyone else like to address the Town Board before I call on Mr. Carlin? STEVE GRUBER: Hi. My name is Steve Gruber. I am a resident of Greenport, and I just wanted to say that I think that perhaps after fifteen years this Board is a courageous board in putting forth $250,000. What I would suggest is that they be really courageous and go for the whole amount, and end the problem. BENJAMIN SCHWARTZ: Hello. My name is Benjamin Schwartz. I am a taxpayer, a resident, and someone that loves the Town of Southold. I think one thing that everybody seems to agree on here is the North Fork Animal Welfare League has done a fantastic job of running the shelter for a long, long time for the Town of Southold. The Town of Southold has not been involved in the day-to-day running, and the operations, and working in the facility, as it is. I don't think anybody here would disagree that the facility should be replaced. The only issue seems to be the money. Now I looked through the budget, and there were a lot of items there. I didn't understand everything, but some things I see. I see they are buying a new boat for the Marine Police. A new boat costs $28,000, but the Town Board put $28,000 in the budget, not $14,000. This toilet on New Suffolk Beach is going to cost $60,000. I hope it doesn't end up like the toilet at the end of Pequash, which is a concrete block structure right on the bluff. It blocks the whole view of one of the most beautiful views in the world in my mind from the majority of the park. I don't know what kind of a toilet they are building there. For $60,000 I think, you know, we could probably build a pretty nice toilet, but could we build one for thirty? We would have another thirty to put in toward the shelter. Whatever it is if you are really supporting the shelter, the proposal right now is for a half a million dollars. The offer by the Town Board is a quarter of a million dollars short. I would just like to hear from the Town Board where the think the other quarter million dollars is going to come from, ifthey are behind this project? It seems to me they are waiting for someone to give the money to the Town. I don't know if they have done any 11/14/00 17 publicity searching for donors or whatever, but we have a proposal for a half of a million dollar shelter. We have an offer of a quarter of million dollars. Where is the other quarter million dollars going to come from? SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Anyone else like to address the Town Board? CRYSTAL FIEDLER: My name is Crystal Fiedler. I am from Greenport. I guess I don't understand. Is the $250,000 in the budget, or are you floating a bond for that amount? SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: A bond will have to be floated. CRYSTAL FIEDLER: Then why don't you float a $500,000 bond and let the people decide? Why are you putting a limit on how much we can give? SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: It was felt that was what we could afford this year, and we try to do the project in phases, so the project can be done. CRYSTAL FIEDLER: I know. Please, don't speak down to me. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: I'm not. CRYSTAL FIEDLER: Yes, you do. I just want to say that I think you are putting a cap on what you think you can afford when there is abundance everywhere. You don't need to have this arbitrary cap that we can afford this amount of money. I just don't understand that at all, and I think if you open your minds to that, and do what Joanne says, which is think of the animals. This has become like Gore and Bush. You just focus OIl the animals, the cats and the dogs that need our help. If you could see the way you are sitting up there. You don't even listen to the people that are talking. We pay your salaries. I see you are getting defensive'. I am just saying, you work for us. COUNCILMAN RICHTER: I am not getting defensive. You just told me I don't listen. CRYSTAL FIEDLER: I anl the taxpayer. You work for us. You are supposed to rise above this. You are supposed to listen to me, and say, okay, this is how you feel, and see what you do? See if you get elected next time after all this horseshit. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Thank you for your comments. Anyone else like to address the Town Board? Mr. Carlin will be the last person I call on. Anyone else want to? Frank, it is all yours. FRANK CARLIN: I think what the young fellow was try to say was, and I will give you one example before I wind it up. There is a like an example like a year ago we spend money for that new trailer at the Landfill. I think we floated a bond. I am not sure on that though, and a new trailer and there was a dump truck involved there, $187,000. It is sitting there now, a brand new trailer sitting there, and now they are complaining that they don't like it, the workers, because the room is not big enough for them to take a break in. Now, it is still sitting there. But, while listening to all this, this evening, all this evening, another bulb came into my head and lit up, how we can get that money. SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: That is scary. FRANK CARLIN: For Frank Carlin it is. How we can get that money. All the years on the Board should call up Regis Philbin and go on Who Wants to Be a Million, and you can raise the $500,00, because you people seem to know all the answers. * * * 1'X._~;;7AO Uw/L ~i:Nevi~ Southold Town Clerk