HomeMy WebLinkAboutHampton JitneyAPPROVED JULY 6' 1982
STATE OF NEW YORK
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
RECEIVE~
JUL ! 9 1982
~i'own Clerk Seuthold
CASE 29651 - Petition of Sunrise Coach Lines, Inc. for a temporary certificate of
public convenience and necessity to operate a bus line between the Village of
Greenport ~own of Southold) and the City of New York.
CASE 29653 - Petition of Hampton Jitney, Inc. for a temporary certificate of
public convenience and necessity to operate a bus line from the Village of
Greenport {Town of Southold) to the Hamlet of Manorville (Town of Brookhaven),
all in Suffolk County.
APPEARANCES:
Samuel B. Zinder, P,C., the Atrium, 98 Cutter Mill Road,
Great Neck, NY 11021, attorney for Sunrise Coach Lines, Inc.
Twomey, Latham & Schmitt, P,O. Box 398, 33 West Second
Street, Riverhead, NY llgO1, attorney~for Hampton Jitney,
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F. E. UEBERWASSER, Administrative Law Judge:
By petition verified November 16, 1981, filed with the Department-November 18,
1981, Sunrise Coach Lines, Inc. (Sunrise), West Front Street, Greenport,
NY 11944, sought, pursuant to Section 149.5 of the Transportation Law, and was
granted by order adopted November 24, 1981, a temporary certificate of public
convenience and necessity for the operation of a bus line along a route between
the Vi'llage of Greenport (Town of Southold) and the City of New York.
By petition dated November 10, 1981, filed with the Department November 16, 1981,
Hampton Jitney, Inc. (Hampton), Box 1167, Bridgehampton, NY 11932, sought,
pursuant to Section 149.5 of the Transportation Law, and was denied by order
adopted November 24, 1981, a temporary certificate of public convenience and
necessi'ty for the operation of a bus line from the Village of Greenport (Town of
Southold) to the Hamlet of Manorville (Town of Brookhaven), all in Suffolk County,
to connect with its existing route running from Montauk to New York City.
A report approved November 24, 1981, granting the temporary authority in Case
29651 and denying the temporary authority in Case 29653, states, "These
applications appear {appeared) in the Weekly Bulletin of November 24, 1981, and
so there has been no time for submission of possible protest. However, because
Phone regarding the attached
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Cases 29651 and 29653
of the interest and support in having such type operation instituted, the
applications are subject - to immediate consideration and d~sposltl'on. Hearing
on these applications may hereafter be held on either or both applications, if
necessary." Thereaftera public 'hearing was held on April 29, 1982, both
petitioners appearing in opposition to a grant of authority to the other.
Testimony in support of Sunrise's petition was given by Christa Brown, vice
president of Sunrise; William Pell, supervisor - Town of Southold; William S.
Allen, deputY mayor and trustee of the Village Board, Village of Greenport;
seven public witnesses. In addition there were about 30 prospective witnesses
in support of the Sunrise petition and it was stipulated these prospective
witnesses would testify to the effect they would use the service of Sunrise
with varying degrees of frequency. Testimony in support of the Hampton Jitney
petition was given by James Davidson, president - Hampton Jitney. There were
no other witnesses in support.
Sunrise, including its predecessor, Robert R. Brown as an individual, is an
established carrier who in Case 9216 was first granted authority by order
adopted August 10, 1937, to operate a bus line between the Village of Greenport
and Quogue, both in Suffolk County. In addition to the temporary authority it
holds herein, it also holds in Case 16499 authority to operate a bus route
between the Village of Greenport and East Hampton, all in Suffolk County, and
incidental to such certificate a permit to transport special or chartered
parties. It also holds a permit in Case 20481 as a contract carrier of passen-
gers by motor-vehicle which includes authority for the transportation of
chartered parties from Suffolk County to New York City and the Counties of
Broome, Nassau, Orange, Putnam, Suffolk and Westchester. It has available for
the proposed service two passenger vans, each with an adult seating capacity of
15 passengers, exclusive of driver, and two passenger coaches, each with
seating capacity of 49 passengers. A consolidated balance sheet of Sunrise
and Sunrise Buses, Inc., affiliated companies, as at December 31, 1981, indicates
assets - $686,271; liabilities - $463,131; capital and retained earnings -
$223,140. A consolidated income statement for the year ending December 31, 1981,
indicates revenues - $909,010 and net income $24,011.
Hampton is an established carrier which was first granted a temporary certificate
of public convenience and necessity by order adopted June 20, 1974, in Case 27874
to operate a bus line between the Town of Southampton and Amagansett in the Town
of East Hampton, all in Suffolk County. Under authority in Case 28032 it
presently operates a bus line between the Town of East Hampton, Town of
Southampton, Town of Brookhaven and New York City. It also holds in Case 28032
a permit authorizing the transportation of special or chartered parties inci-
dental to the certificate. Its motor vehicle fleet consists of seven coaches
with air-conditioning and lavatory, including five 46-passenger Eagle coaches
and eight passenger vans each with a seating capacity of 15 passengers,
exclusive of driver. Hampton did not submit a 'financial statement.
Pursuant to the temporary authority granted by order ladopted November 24, 1981,
Sunrise has been providing bus line service between Greenport and New York City,
transporting in January 1982, 599 one-way passengers; in February 1982, 568
one-way passengers; in March 1982, 709 one-way passengers. Beginning in the
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Village of Greenport at Shelter Island Ferry Terminal on Third Street the route
follows local streets through Greenport, along Middle ~oad, Main Road and
Country Road to the Long Island Expressway (LIE) at Exit 70 and then along the
LIE to New York City. After leaving Greenport stops are made at Southold,
Cutchogue, Mattituck, and Rtverhead. After leaving Riverhead there are no stops
until arrival in New York City. Scheduled time for the trip is 2½ hours.
There are two round trips each d~, departing Monday through Friday from
Greenport at 7:30 A.M. and 2:30 P.M. and departing New York City at ll:O0 A.M.
and 6:30 P.M. Sunday departure from Greenport will be at 2:30 P.M. and
7:30 P.M. with return trips departing New York at 6:30 P.M. and 9:45 P.M. Adult
one-way fares are $12 with an open return ticket priced at $10. The fare for
senior citizens, college students and children under 12 accompanied by adult
will be $10 one way. All seats are reserved and reservations mu~t be confirmed
before 5:00 P.M. the day prior for morning trips and before noon of the same day
for P.M. trips. Cancellations are accepted until 5:00 P.M. the day preceding
the morning trip and noon of the same day for P.M. trips. There is a $5 charge
for late cancellations and full-fare for no shows; however, Sunrise indicates
that it has never implemented the penalty charge. Although it did not hold
authority, Sunrise had originally commenced weekend operations on July 4, 1981,
and started daily operations in September 1981. Sometime thereafter Sunrise was
advised that it required authority from the Department of Transportation and
ceased operations pending a determination of the temporary authority
application. -The testimony of the seven public witnesses in support of the
Sunrise petition is summarized to the extent they are all residents of the
communities on the north fork of Long Island to be served by the proposed bus
route; they all have used the services of Sunrise with satisfaction since grant
of temporary authority; all would use Sunrise's services in the future with
varying degrees of frequency, ranging from two round trips per week to one
round trip every two months.
Hampton Jitney proposes also to operate a round trip service to and from
Greenport and New York City by providing a feeder bus service to connect with
its existing route running from the south fork of Long Island to New York City.
Hampton's route would begin in Greenport at the Shelter Island Ferry terminal
and follow Route 25 westerly until reaching an intersection with Old Country
Road {County Road 58} in Riverhead where it would turn on to Old Country Road
and continue to the Long Island Expressway at Exit 70 (Manorville), then south
1,O00 feet to the Gateway Diner on County Road lll. After leaving the ferry
terminal at Greenport, stops would be made in Southold, Cutchogue, Mattituck,
Riverhead, and finally at the Manorville-Gateway Diner. The scheduled running
time from Greenport to Manorville would be about 45 minutes with the entire trip
to New York being 2 hours and 50 minutes. The year round schedule provides for
three round trips daily leaving Greenport at 8:00 A.M., lO:O0 A.M. and 3:15 P.M.,
arriving at Manorville at 8:45 A.M., 10:45 A.M..and 4:00 P.M. During the
months of July and August there would be two additional daily trips leaving
Greenport at 6:10 A.M. and 6:00 P.M., arriving respectively at Manorville at
6:55 A.M. and 6:45 P.M. An additional westbound trip would be provided on
Sunday only, leaving Greenport at 7:00 P.M. and arriving Manorville at 7:45 P.M.
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During September through December the 6:10 A.M, trip will be made on Mondays
only. All year round eastbound service will leave Manorville at l:O0 P.M. and
3:30 P.M., arriving respectively at Greenport at 1:45 P.M. and 4:15 P.M. Two
extra trips departing Manorville at ll:30 A.M. and 8:30 P.M., arriving Greenport,
respectively, at 12:15 P.M. and 9:15 P.M., will be made daily during July and
August and on Mondays only between September through December. All of the above
trips would connect with the existing service between New York City and Manorville
which has westbound trips leaving Manorville at 6:55 A.M., 8:45 A.M., 10:45 A.M.,
4:00 P.M., 6:45 P,M. and 7:45 P.M., with arrival times in Manhattan at 9:00 A.M.,
10:30 A.M., 12:30 P.M., 5:30 P.M., 8:15 P.M. and 9:30 P.M. Eastbound trips leave
Manhattan at lO:O0 A.M., ll:30 A.M., 2:00 P.M. and 7:00 P.M. with arrival times
at Manorvtlle ll:30 P.M., l:O0 P.M., 3:30 P.M. and 8:30 P.M. Hampton would
operate new~lS-passenger, air-conditioned National Custom Van mini buses for
service from Greenport to Manorville where the passengers would then board lava-
tory equipped coaches for the remaining portion of the trip into New York City.
The proposed one-way fare is $12 with the return trip of $10. A $20 round-trip
fare would be available to senior citizens, college students and children under
12 on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays. Service would be by reservation only
by means of telephone in New York City and on the north fork.
Discussion and Recommendation
Both Sunrise and Hampton are established carriers, and there is little issue
concerning their fitness and ability to perform the considered service.
There is merit in both applications; however, to authorize operation by both
carriers along routes which are essentially the same would result in an
undesirable competitive situation. The record indicates that about 40 persons
would use Sunrise's services with varying degrees of frequency; however, Hampton
offers no evidence by public witnesses and, on the record, it would appear that
the order in Case 29651 adopted November 24, 1981, granting authority to Sunrise
and the order in Case 29653 adopted November 24, 1981, denying a grant of
authority to Hampton should be affirmed.
June 21, 1982
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1220 Washington Avenue, State Campus, Albany, New York 12232
JUL ~ B I§82
PRESENT:
NEW YORK STATE
DEPARTMEHTOF TRANSPORTATION
William C. Hennessy, Commissioner
At the Office of the Department
of Transportation in the City
of Albany on J~_l¥ 6, 1982
Edward J. Canty, Director, Regulation Division
CASE 29651 - Petition of Sunrise Coach Lines, Inc, for a temporary
certificate of public convenience and necessity to operate a bus line
between the Village of Greenport (Town of Southold)and the City of
New York,
Sunrise Coach Lines, Inc., by petition filed November 18, 1981, having
sought temporary authority to operate a bus line between the Village
of Greenport and New York City and by order adopted November 24, 1981,
the Commissioner having determined that such operations would serve
the public convenience and necessity and said order having granted such
authority, and thereafter a public hearing having been held and the
Commissioner having further determined that the order of November 24,
1981, should be affirmed in all respects, it is
0 R D E R E D that the order adopted November 24, 1981, be and
it hereby is affirmed in all respects.
~FE~:ARB
By the Director, Regulation Division
THOMAS 'B. TYRE~'~ ,/~
Transportation Executive Officer
RECEIVE~
Town Clerl~ $out~old
1220 Washington Avenue, State C~mpu$, Albany, New York 12232
NEW YORK STATE
DEPARTMENTOF TRANSPORTATION
William C. Hennessy, Commissioner
CASE 29653
Name of Petitioner:
Nature of Petition:
Hampton Jitney~ Inc.
Petitioner requests a temporary
certificate of public convenience
and necessity to operate a bus
line from the Village of Greenport
(Town of Southol~) to the hamlet
of Manorville (Town of Brookhaven),
all in Suffolk County, as descrfoed
in petition filed November 18, 1981.
March 16, 1982
TAKE NOTICE that the public hearing scheduled to be held in
the above matter before F. E. Ueberwasser, Administrative Law
Judge, on Thursday, March 18, 1982, has been postponed to
Thursday, April 29, 1982 at 11:00 A.M., at the Village Hall,
Justice Court Meeting Room, 236 Third Street, Greenport, NY,
and will be continued on Friday, April 30, 1982, if necessary.
PAUL D. REINERT
Executive Assistant
Regulation Division
I~ECEIVE~
Town Clerk $outhold
1220 Washington Avenue, State Campus, Albany, New York 12232
NEW YORK STATE
DEPART~ENTOF TI~$,NSPORTATION
CASE 29651
Name of Petitioner:
Nature of Petition:
Sunrise Coach Lines, Inc.
Petitioner requests a temporary
certificate of public convenience
and necessity to operate a bus
line between the Village of Green-
port (Town of Southold) end the
City of New York, as described in
petiticn filed November 18, 1981.
February 19, 1982
TAI~ NOTICE %hat the public hearing scheduled to be held in
the above mstter before F. E. Ueberwasser, Administrative Law
Judge, on Thursday, March ~, 1982, has been postponed to
Thursday, March 18, 1982 at ll:O0 A.M., at the ¥illa~e Hall,
Justice Court Meetin~ Room, 236 Third Street, Greenport,
and will be continued on Friday, March 19, 1982, if necessary.
PAU~ D. REI.~ERT
"ExecUtive Assistant
Regulation Division
· · NEW YORK STATE
JAN 3 5 c. Henn*y. Commi.ioner
~ ~le~ ~shington Avenue, State Campus, Albany, New York 12232 ~
JAN 1982
Hon. Kenneth P. LaValle
The State Senate
Albany, New York
Dear Senator LaValle:
Thank you for your letter in support o£ the resolution of the Southold Town
Board supporting the Sunrise Coach Lines, Inc. bus service between Greenport
and New York City.
To bring you up to date, Sunrise was given temporary authority to operate
the line on November 18~ 19S1. The grant was based to a great extent on the
support of the Southold resolution and similar resolutions passed in the
town of Riverhead and the village of Greenport.
You shotuld be aware that we have pending a second application to provide the
same service. This application comes from Hampton Jitney, Inc. which presently
provides a similar service between the South Fork and New York City.
We will be holding a public hearing on March 4 in Greenport to take testimony
in support of a grant of permanent authority, both applications will be
considered at this hearing.
Sincerely,
W. C. HENNESSY
Commissioner
THESENATE
STATE OF NEW YORK
ALBANY
SENATOR KENNETH P. LaVALL~
lstOISTRICT
I thoughtyou might be interested
in this material.
Cordially,
P,.ECEIVE~
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~'o~n Clerk $out~oJd
1220 Washington Avenue. State Campus, AIb~nv, New York 12232
DEPARTMEI~r;OF TRANSPORTATION
CASE 29653
Name of Petitioner:
Nature of Petition:
Hampton Jitney, Inc.
Petitioner requests a temporary
certificate of p~olic convenience
and necessity to operate a bus
line from the Villsge of Greenport
(Town of Southold) to the hamlet
of Msnorville (Town of Brookhaven),
all in Suffolk County, as described
in petition filed November 16, 1982.
February 19, 1982
TAKE NOTICE that the public hearing scheduled to be held in
the goove matter before F. E. Ueberwasser, Administrative Law
Judge, on Thursday, March 4, 1982, has been postponed to
Thursday, March 18, 1982 at ll:O0 A.M., at the Village Hall,
Justice Court Meeting Room, 236 Third Street, Greenport,
and will be continued on Friday, March 19, 1982, if necessary.
PAUL D. REINERT
Executive Assistant
ReEulation Division
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William C. Henne~y, Commlmioner
~0w~ Ctel~ SI31~/Vashington Avenue, State Campus, Albany, New York 12232
CASE 29653
Name of Petitioner:
Nature of Petition:
Hampton Jitney, Inc.
Petitioner requests a temporary
certificate of public convenience
and necessity to operate a bus.
line from the Village of Greenport
(Town of Southold) to the hamlet
of Manorville (Town of Brookhaven),
all in Suffolk County, as described
in petition filed November 16, 1982.
January 15, 1982
TAKE NOTICE that the public hearing scheduled to be held in
the above matter before F. E. Ueberwasser, Administrative Law
Judge, on Thursday, January 28, 1982, has been postponed to
Thursday, March 4, 1982, at ll:00 A.M., at the Village Hall,
Justice Court Meeting Room, 236 Third Street, Greenport, NY,
and will be continued on Friday, March 5, 1982, if necessary.
PAUL D. REINERT
Executive Assistant
Regulation Division
RECEIVED
To~m Clerk ~oul~ol'~
1220 Washington Avenue, State Campus, Albany, New York 12232
William C. Hennessy, Commissioner
CASE 29653
Name of Petitioner:
Nature of Petition:
Hampton Jitney, Inc.
Petitioner requests a temporary
certificate of public convenience
and necessity to operate a bus
line from the Village of Greenport
(Town of Southold) to the hamlet
of Manorville (Town of Brookhaven),
all in Suffolk County, as described
in petition filed November 16, 1982.
January 8, 1982
TAKE NOTICE that a public hearing will be held in the above
matter before F. E. Ueberwasser, Administrative Law Judge, at
the Village Hall, Justice Court Meeting Room, 236 Third Street,
Greenport, NY, on Thursday, January 28, 1982 at ll:O0 A.M., and
will be continued on Friday, January 29, 1982, if necessery.
PAUL D. REINERT
Executive Assistant
Regulation Division
,JUDITH T. TERRY
TOW~ CLERK
REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS
OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 728
Southold, New York 11971
TELEPHONE
(516) 765-1801
December 10, 1981
Robert D. Pike, Esq.
Twomey, Latham & Schmitt
P. O. Box 398
Riverhead, New York 11901
Dear Mr. Pike:
Your letter of November 28, 1981 concerning the application
of Hampton Jitney, Inc. to establish a new Peconic Jitney serving
the Town of Southold was read at the December 8, 1981 meeting of
the Southold Town Board.
The Town Board on November 10, 1981 adopted a resolution
supporting Sunrise Coach Lines, Inc. in maintaining daily scheduled
bus transportation from the Town of Southold to New York City, and
transmitted a copy of this resolution to New York State Department
of Transportation Commissioner Hennessy.
On November 24, 1981 the Southold Town Board adopted a
resolution reaffirming their resolution of November 10th and
urging Commissioner Hennessy to grant a Permanent Certificate
to Sunrise Coach Lines, Inc. in connection with the aforesaid
bus transportation to New York City. Copy of both resolutions
enclosed.
Very truly yours,
Judith T. Terry
Southold Town Clerk
Enclosures
TWOME:Y, /ATHAM '~' SCHMITT
November 23, 1981
Mr. William R. Petl,
Supervisor
Town Board
Town of Southold
Main Road
Southold, New York
III
Dear Mr. Pell:
I am writing to ask you to help %nsure that the
Town of Southold can get the best possible mass
transportation system available. Over the next few
weeks or months, two privately owned businesses, the
Hampto~Jitney, 'Inc., our client, and the Sunrise Coach
Lines will be seeking to establish regular bus runs from
Southold to the City of New York. At the outset, I must
make clear that we are not seeking your endorsement as
the sole operator in the area. Nothing which we are
seeking will affect any of the competition's existing
business enterprise. We do not seek your endorsement as
the sole New York run operator.
What we do seek is a resolution of support for the
idea of increased mass transit betweeen Southold and the
City of New York and your consent to the application of
the Hampton Jitney, Inc. to establish a new Peconic
Jitney serving the Town of Southold. This will allow
both companies to compete for the honor of serving the
people of your town.
Enclosed I have forwarded to you a proposed
resolution which would accomplish this result, and which
supplements the prior resolution which you passed
pertaining to the Sunrise Coach operation.
The Peconic Jitney service will
the highly successful
Southampton, and East
be modeled after
service in Brookhaven,
Hampton. As the main carrier to
File
Mr. William R. Pell,
November 23, 1981
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the East End over the last six years, the Hampton Jitney
has the experience and spotless track record which will
enable it to provide frequent and reliable service at
economical prices. The Peconic Jitney operation will
be using modern and economical mini-buses to carry
commuters, tourists and businessmen to and from the
North Fork. Extensive use will be made of the Jitney's
modern rolling stock, including large, lavatory-equipped
coaches. Many of these coaches provide hostesses and
refreshments during the trip..
Again, all we ask in seeking your support for the
enclosed resolution, is that you give us a chance to
compete, a chance to present our case to the State and
people of New York on an even'basis, and a chance to
provide frequent, reliable and the high-quality service
that we have provided to others to the People of the
Town of Southold.
If you believe the citizens of your town deserve
the best possible mass transportation system, I hope you
will support and pass the enclosed resolution at the
next meeting of the Southold Town Board.
Sincerely,
Robert D. Pike
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RESOLUTION NO. -1981 OF THE
TOWN BOARD OF SOUTHOLD
WHEREAS, the Town of Southold realizes the
importance of efficient mass transportation between the
Town and the City of New York; and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of Southold believes it is
in the best interests of the people of Southold to
enable all parties interested in providing such services
to present their petition with the consent of the
municipality involved; and
WHEREAS, the Hampton Jitney, Inc., an east end
corporation which currently makes numerous runs to the
City of New York from the east end of Long Island,
proposes that a new "Peconic Jitney" be established to
provide daily bus service between the Town and the City
of New York; and
WHEREAS, the Hampton Jitney has filed a Petition
with the Commissioner of Transportation of the State of
New York seeking a temporary certificate of public
convenience and necessity to operate such a service;
NOW THEREFORE, BE IT
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of
Southold shall, and does hereby, give consent to the
proposal of the Hampton Jitney, Inc. to establish the
"Peconic Jitney" service between the Town of Southold
and the City of New York.
STATE OF NEW YORK
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
APPROVED NOVEMBER 24, 1981
CASE 29651 - Petition of Sunrise Coach Lines, Inc. for a temporary
certificate of public convenience and necessity to operate a'bus
line between the Village of Greenport (Town of Southold) and the
City of New York.
CASE 29653 - Petition of Hampton Jitney, Inc. for a temporary
certificate of public convenience and necessity to operate a
bus line from the Village of Greenport (Town of Southold) to
the hamlet of Manorville (Town of Brookhaven), all in Suffolk
County.
APPEARANCES:
Samuel B. Zinder, P.C., The Atrium,
98 Cutter Mill Road, Great Neck,
New York 11021, attorney for Sunrise
Coach Lines, Inc., petitioner.
Twomey, Latham & Schmitt, P.O. Box
398, 33 West Second Street, Riverhead,
N. Y. 11901, attorneys for Hampton
Jitney, Inc., petitioner.
M. LIEBERMAN, Chief Administrative Law Judge:
By filing of November 18, 1981, Sunrise Coach Lines, Inc. (Sunrise),
with offices in Greenport, Town of Southold, seeks a temporary
certificate to operate a bus line between the Village of Greenport
and midtown Manhattan.
By filing of November 16, 1981, Hampton Jitney, Inc. (Hampton Jitney),
Butter Lane, P..O. Box 1167, Bridgehampton, N. Y. 11932, seeks
authority to operate a bus line between the Village of Greenport
and the Hamlet of Manorville (Interchange 70 on the Long Island
Expressway).
Hampton presently operates a bus line between the south shore points
in the Hampton area and Manhattan and enters the Long Island Expresswa
at Interchange 70. Accordingly, the Greenport-Manorville fork would
ould you wish to inquire by
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be extended by the operation along the Long Island Expressway
into Manhattan. Accordingly, the applications herein propose
essentially duplicate service.
These applications appear in the Weekly Bulletin of November 24,
1981 and so there has been no time for submission of possible
protests. However, because of the interest and support in
having such type operation instituted, the applications are
subject to immediate consideration and disposition. Hearings
on these applications may hereafter be held on either or both
applications, if necessary.
The Sunrise application notes that it was made aware of a need
for transportation between Greenport and New York City in the
spring of 1981. It alleges "for all practical purposes," there
is no rail service in the area. It proposes to operate air-
conditioned modern van type equipment on its route. The route
would generally follow along NYS 25 serving intermediate
communities between Greenport and Riverhead, at which point
the bus would operate in an express manner directly to midtown
Manhattan. Accordingly, no intermediate point service will be
available to communities west of Riverhead in Suffolk County
or for any communities .in Nassau County. Sunrise proposes a
schedule of two round trips, seven days a week. Monday through
Saturday service will be offered departing from Greenport at
7:30 a.m. and 2:30 p.m. Return schedule calls for New York
departures at 11 a.m. and 6~30 p.m. Estimated times for the
entire trip is scheduled at two and one-half hours. Sunday
schedule provides for a 2~30 p.m. and 7:30 p.m. departure from
Greenport and a 6~30 p.m. and 9:45 p.m. departure from New York.
Fares proposed include adult one-way fare of $12 with a $22
round trip. A $10 fare is offered to senior citizens, college
students and children under the age of twelve. The Sunrise applica-
tion was accompanied by Several letters in support thereof.
Letters of support were submitted from the Supervisor of the
Town of Riverhead, the Mayor of the Village of Greenport, the
Town Clerk of the Town of Southold, the Secretary for the League
of Women Voters of Riverhead/Southold, as well as several
individual commuters. These letters indicated generally that
the only other means of transportation is provided by the
Long Island Rail Road but that its schedule does not permit
for one day round trip business.
Hampton Jitney's proposal essentially duplicates the service
offered by Sunrise. Hampton is able tO offer this service in
conjunction with its existing permanent bus line authority
between points on the south fork (Hamptons) to New York City.
Case 29651 & 29653
It is contemplated that, if necessary, it could physically
dovetail the two operations for a more efficient operation.
It would enter the Long Island Expressway in the Hamlet of
Manorville, a point immediately west of P~iverhead. Its
schedule proposes five round trips daily with one Sunday
scheduled bus. Buses would depart from Greenport at 6:10 a.m.,
8 a.m., 10 a.m., 3:15 p.m. and 6 p.m., with returns at 10 a.m.,
11:30 a.m., 2 p.m. and 7 p.m. (The 6:10 a.m. and 6 p.m.
buses from Greenport would be offered only during the sur~ner
or peak season periods.) Existing bus line operation provided
by Hampton allows for a Queens airport connection and such
will be available for north fork resident passengers. Hampton
notes it presently has authority to operate within the City
of New York and offers fares which are similar to those
proposed by Sunrise. Hampton indicates it has eight mini
size vehicles available as well as full size lavoratory equipped
coaches, that it is already authorized to operate within the
City of New York, and that it has demonstrated feasibility
and need by its operation of a similar service on the south
fork.
Discussion and Reco~t=~endation
Two fit carriers have applied almost simultaneously for authority
to operate essentially the same service. There is merit in both
applications. Hampton Jitney has demonstrated its success and
ability to provide such service in promoting and developing a
successful commuter operation between the Hampton Bay area and
midtown Manhattan. It holds consent from the City of New York
to stop in midtown Manhattan. Its proposed schedule would
appear to enable it to dovetail the existing south fork operation
with the north fork operation. It additionally would offer a
connection to John F. Kennedy Airport located in Queens. On
the other hand, Sunrise, domiciled in Greenport, with permanent
route authority on the north fork, has received and responded
to a need in this area to New York City. It has the support
and endorsement from the major communities from which it
proposes to operate. It is additionally supported by several
commuters residing in the north fork area. However, despite
such indications of support, proof of demand for service can
only be determined from experienced patronage. Due to the
length of the operation and the time involved, it is hard to
believe that there are many daily commuters who would be
interested in this service. It is reasonably certain to
expect that occasional use would be made of such service if
it were available. Because of these elements, grant of authority
to two bus companies could fragment the demand to the financial
detriment to both. Both proposals are worthy of serious
consideration by this Department. However, since Sunrise
is the operator presently providing local service in the
Greenport area and since it has the support from the involved
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municipalities, it would appear to be fitting to authorize
this company to provide this service and to authorize such
service on a temporary basis in an exclusive manner so as to
insure it a maximum potential for financial success.
It is accordingly recommended that the Sunrise application for
temporary authority be approved and that concurrently the
Hampton Jitney application be denied.
November 24, 1981
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NEW YORK STATE
DEPARTMENT OF I'RJWSFORTJ;ION
William C. Henne~y, Commbaion~
1220 Washington Avenue, State Campus, Albany, New York 12232
PRESENT:
At the Office of the Department
of Transportation in the City
of Albany on November 24, 1981
EDWARD J. CANTY, Director,
Regulation Division
CASE 29651 - Petition of Sunrise Coach Lines, Inc. for a temporary
certificate of public convenience and necessity to operate a bus
line between the Village of Greenport (Town of Southold) and the
City of New York.
Sunrise Coach Lines, Inc., by application filed November 18, 1981,
having, sought temporary authority to operate a bus line between
the Village of Greenport and New York City, and the Commissioner
of Transportation having determined that in furtherance of an
experimental or demonstration project, such operation would serve
the public convenience and necessity t and that accordingly such
authority should be granted, subject to the conditions hereinafter
set forth over the routes, avenues and streets as set forth in
the appendix attached hereto and made a part hereof, it is
C E R T I F I E D that, upon the conditions hereinafter set
forth and not otherwise, public convenience and necessity
requires the operation of a bus line for the period hereinafter
specified over the routes and through the communities as set
forth in the appendix attached hereto and made a part hereof,
and it is
ORDERED:
1. That permission and approval be and it hereby is granted,
subject to the conditions hereinafter set forth and not
otherwise, to the operation by Sunrise Coach Lines, Inc.
of a bus line to and including October 1, 1982, unless otherwise
ordered by the Commissioner, between. Greenport (Suffolk County)
and New York City, as described in the appendix attached
hereto and made a part hereof.
la. That within twenty days from the date of service of this
order, Sunrise Coach Lines, Inc. shall file with this Department
a duly verified certificate showing that a proper petition has been
filed with the County of Suffolk and the City of New York for con-
sent from said municipalities to the operation herein temporarily
authorized which certificate shall set forth the date when each of
said applications was filed.
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2. That Sunrise Coach Lines, Inc. is hereby permitted
to operate through buses over two or more streets, avenues
and public places set forth in the appendix attached hereto
and made a part hereof, and to operate thereover in connection
and in conjunction, with all existing operations pursuant to
certificate from this Department, and to transport through
passengers thereover.
3. That the authority herein granted shall create no presumption
that corresponding permanent authority will be granted thereafter
or that public convenience and recessity requires a permanent
certificate of such operation.
4. That the operation of buses pursuant to the authority herein
granted shall be subject to all the applicable provisions of the
Transportation Law and the rules, regulations and requirements
of the commissioner of Transportation.
5. That the requirement of 17 NYCRR 551.5 with respect to service
of notice'upon competing carriers of the filing of this petition
be and it hereby is waived.
6. That the grant of this temporary certificate of public convenien¢
and necessity for the operation of a bus line as herein set forth
does no~ e~ se include authority to transport passengers pursuant
to the provls~ns of Section 203(3) of the Transportation. Law.
7. That no operations shall be performed pursuant to the
authority granted herein until the vehicle or vehicles to be
used in such operation has or have been presented for inspection
to a member of this Department's Traffic and Safety Division
(Carrier Inspection Unit) and an appropriate certificate or
certificates of inspection issued.
8. That no operations shall be commenced until an acceptable
tariff covering the operations herein is on file with this
Department.
9. That failure to comply with the provisions of the order
may subject the authority herein to abrogation without further
notice.
10. That this order shall become effective immediately.
By the Director, .Regulation Division
Transportation Executive Officer
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APPENDIX
SUNRISE COACH LINES, INC.
ROUTE DESCRIPTION
ON
Third Street
Route 25
Moores Lane
Middle Road
Middle Road
Middle Road
Love Lane
Route 25
Route 58
L.I.E.
Third Ave.
BETWEEN
Bus Stop
Third Street
Route 25
Route 48
Hortons Lane
Alvahs Lane
Middle Road
Love Lane
Route 25
Midtown Tunnel
AND
Ferry Slip (Greenport)
Moores Lane
Route 48 (Middle Road)
Hortons Lane (Southold}
Alvahs Lane (Cutchogue)
Love Lane (Mattituck)
Route 25
Route 58 and Ostra~er ky.
L.I.E. ~lvernE
37th Street & Third Ave.
78th Street
Lexington Ave.
42nd Street
Second Avenue
45th Street
Lexington Ave.
42nd Street
42nd Street
Second Avenue
Midtown Tunnel
RESTRICTION:
Restricted to the pickup and discharge of
passengers on and east of the intersection
of Route 58 and the Long Island Expressway.
IN THE /tATTER OF THE APPLICATION )
of
HAMPTON JITNEY, INC.
for a Temporary Certificate of Public
Convenience and Necessity for the
operation of a motor bus line from
COPY
PETITION
the Village of Greenport, Town of )
~'[~,,[ Southold, to. the Hamlet of Manorville,)
: [;ii:'.':" Town of Brookhaven, County of Suffolk.)
TO THE CO~4MISSIONER OF TRANSPORTATIO~ OF THE STATE OF
The petitioner, HAPPEN JITNEY, INC.~ by its
~,:~,' .attorneys~ T~MEY, LATHAM & SCH~I~, respectfully states
~ as follows~ ·
'~:~'' FI~T~ ..The petitioner is a domestic cor~ration
,dul~ or~an~ze~ ~nd exis~tnq under and b~ virtue of the
. Transportation Corporations Law of the State of New
SECONDt Your petitione~ has been issued a
permanent certificate of public conw~nience and
necessity granted by the Department of Transportation,
State of New York, in Case No. 28032'dated July 10, 1981
(Exhibi~..?A'). This certificate was granted allowing
RECEIVED_
F 0V Z 0 'i98i
Hampton Jitney, Inc. to operate a rouud-trip bus service
from the Towns of East Hampton, Southampton, and
Brookhaven to New York City on a sea~ional and year-round
basis.
THIRD: Hampton Jitney hereby requests permission
to commence regular, year-round, daily, round-trip
franchise bus service from the North Pork of houg Island
to Hanorville with' a connection to its presently
existing and certified service to Nev~ York City to
provide an acceptable alternative to private passenger
car travel. It proposes a moderately priced, express
bus service which could operate without deficit, and
stlpport~.its local franchise activities.
FOURTH: The proposed route of i:he North Fork to
Manorville service would, on the we~;tbound run, commence
in Greenport, and terminate in Manorvil]e, Town of
Brookhaven, County of Suffolk. The eastbound route
would commence in Manorville and terminate in Greenport.
The service, as outlined in the propo~ed timetable
below, would provide a feeder mini-bus service between
the North Fork towns delivering pas!~]gers to a location
for transfer at Manorville to Hampton Jitney's luxury
coaches which depart from Manorvill~? on a regular basis
express to the City of New York. The proposed timetable
is as follows: ·
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Westbound
Sunday Only
Leaving: A.M. A.M. A.M. P.M. P.M. P.M.
~REENPORT ~'~-~** ~717~* lDO* ~'~* ~1I~** 7~
SOUTHOLD 6:15 8:05 10:05 3:20 6:05 7:05
CUTCHOGUE 6:20 8:10 10:10 3:25 6:10' 7:10
MATTITUCK 6:25 8:15 10:15 ]:30 6:15 7:15
RIVERHEAD 6:40 8:30 10~30 3:45 6:30 7:30
Arriving:
MANORVIbLE 6:55** 8:45** 10:45' .l:n0* 6:45** 7:45
*All year-round service for these ti.les only.
**The 6:10 a.m. westbound and the 6:00 p.m. westbound
will operate daily July/August and Mondays only
September-December.
Eastbound
Leaving: A.M. P.M. P.M. P.M.
MANORVILLE 1'~** ~5' '%:-~* ~-~**
Arriving:.
RIVERHEAD 11:45 1:15 ]:45 8:45
MATTITUCK 12:00 p.m. 1:30 l:00 9:00
CUTCHOGUE ~2:05 p.m. 1:35 4:05 9:05
SOUTHOLD 12:10 p.m. 1:40 4:10 9:10
GREENPORT 12:15 p.m. 1:45 4:15 9:15
*All year-round.
**Daily, July-August;
Mondays only,
September-December.
The above listed trips would connect with the
existing certificated service between New York and
Manorville, Manorville and New York, on the following
schedule~
Westbound
Leaving= A.M. A.M. A.M. P.M. P.M. P.M.
Arriving: P.M.
QUEENS AIRPORT
CONNECTION 8:45 10:10 12:10 5:10 8:00 9:10
MANHATTAN 9:00 10:30 12:~0 5:30 8:15 9:30
Eastbouna
MANHATTAN
QUEENS AIRPORT CONNECTION
Arriving:
}4ANORVILLE
A .~. A.M. P.M. P.M.
1~-?'~0' 1 ] :30 2.'-'0~' ~
10:2'0 11:50 2:20 7:20
P.M.
1 ] :30 T:-0-~ 3:30 8:30
FIFTH: The llampton Jitney wou],l operate new
fifteen-passenger, air-conditioned g.~t. io~al Custom Vans
mini-bus for service along the North Fork feeding into
the stop at Ms,orville, where passer,gets would then
board lavatory-equipped coaches for tl%e trip into New
York City under the Company's ex ist~](l authority.
SIXTH: The route to be travele~] by the Hampton
Jitney on the North Fork as describ,:.,~ in Exhibit B and
indicated on the map attached as Exhibit "C#, is as
follows: The trip would commence i~% '[~eenport and
travel along Route 25 into Southold, then travel further
in a westerly direction into Cutcho~uo, continuing On
Route-25, into Mattituck, and th,.n, ,,!.o~] reaching the
illterse~tion of Route 25 and Old Cou~try Road (County
Road 58) in Riverhead, would turn on to Old Country
Road, continuing on Old Country Road ~o the Long Island
Expressway, Exit 70 (Manorville), theuce south 1000 feet
to the Gateway Diner on County Road ~l~. The stops that
would be made are listed below: Gre~.~port-North Ferry
terminal; Southold; Cutchogue; Matt i*uck; Riverhead;
Manorville-Gateway Diner. The mini--bus operation on the
North Fork is desirable as the flex~l,[[ity offers the
year-round traveler a fast, minimum--stop, comfortable
service {~ and from an express term{,~us in Manorville.
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embarkation
'majority of
Manhattan.
SEVENTH: Development of the mini-bus service which
would feed into the existing Manorvil he connection on
the certificatod New York/South Fork route would allow
for a greater efficiency and economy o[ travel into New
York for North Fork passengers. The North Fork mini-bus
could make more trips at a lower vacancy rate than a
full-size coach. This servicew which would feed into
the New York runw can be provided at: a relatively low
capital inves~ment.
EIGHTH: The upper east side, central Third Avenue
disembarkation route and 45th and Lexington Avenue
point will be very appeal ing to the vast
riders who are oriented to this area of
Lexington and 45th Street embarkation points
are presently used because of a good nubway and bus
service to the central east side location and ,because
there are a number of restaurants in the immediate
vicii%ity and they are already approved as I{ampton Jitney
eto~s by the Traffic Department of the City of New York.
NINTH.' Hampton Jitney New York express service
would provide moderately priced transportation at:
$]2.00 one-way with an additio~al $10.00 for return
trip. The $12.00 one-way fare would provide express
service for the less budget-conscious tourist or
two-home reside,~t, while the $22.00 t,~tal same-day
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~ound-trip fare would provide a reammably priced, fast
and.COmfortable service to the more economy-minded
day-tripper. A $20.00 round-trip fare would be
available to senior citizens, colleqc students, and
children under 12 on Tuesdays, Thur~';days and Saturdays.
TENTH: The service would be by reservation only
with New York and North Fork booking telephone lines.
The Hampton Jitney presently has a ,:-mputerized
reservation system with many South Pk~k and four New
York City phone numbers. Additional North Fork local
numbers would be added.
ELEVENTHt The proposed schedule?
full day in New York for appointmenl:~;,
would provide a
lunch, shows with
an early dinner in New York, or a late supper on the
North Fork after return. The 9~00 a.m. and 10:30 a.m.
arrival times would also be suitable for business
travelers and non-commuters. The frequency of
departures from the North Fork would allow great
flexibility for morning (6~10, 8:00 and 10:00) and
afternoon and evening (3:15, 6:00 ami 7:00) traveiers.
TWELFTE~ The proposed service would provide an
acceptable alternative to the privat? car, not available
at present in keeping with the naticmal energy policy.
THIRTEENTH: The company has a3.>quate equipment to
operate the service with eight vehicles of the mini-bus
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size and five vehicles which are lav;n:ory-equipped
coaches with a carrying capacity of '{9 to 46 passengers
each with more equipment on order scheduled for 1982
delivery.
FOURTEENTH: The approximately two-hour drive from
.the North Fork to New York is arduo.,n and undesirable to
many travelers, especially day-tripp~:~s, and used often
because of a lack of an acceptable alternative public
transportation mode.
FIFTEENTH: There is considerable travel.between
New York and the North Fork on a daily basis year-round
as many people have residences in ~th locales and many
more are ex-New Yorkers that still vi.-~Jt regularly for
medical attention, work, shopping and visiting.
SIXTEENTH: The area has severe traffic congestion
problems and public transportation alternatives need to
be developed {beside national energy considerations).
SEVENTEENTH~ The need and feasibility of such a
service has been demonstrated, by the overwhelming
success of a similar service operated by the petitioner
on the South Fork.
EIGHTEENTH: The area is dependent on a tourist
influx but has weak public transportation to offer the
tourist at present.
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NINI~TEENTH: Public transporLat~,~n from the North
Foist of Long Island to New York Cit7 (approximately 80
m~les} ~s at ~resent lim~te~ to the L~ng
service w~ch is infe~ior ~nsof~r as: regular sche~u~e~
t~aveling time ~tween Greenport and Penn Statio~
three hours and one minute (frequenl' delays occur)~
changing trains or changing to a bus is required in
Babylon o= J~aica; old equi~ent, or, ten in poor repair
and cleanliness, is often used on the run from Babylo6
eas~; schedule frequency and timing ~s poor and not
s~ited to all travelers.
TWENTIETH: The territory trave],~d by the pro~sed
~ne i~now served by the following ~';~ilroad: The Long
Island Railroad Division, Metropo[i[.~,~ Transportation
Authority, ~700 Broadway, New York, N.Y.
TWENTY-FIleT= A temporary cert~ f[cate of
'convenience a~d necessity is being ~][,]~lied for in order
to ~o~ence operations of this fran(~h[se at the earliest
~ssible date.
~-SECOND: Since this is ~n application for a
temporary certificate, no prior conse~t is required and
petitio~mr w~ll, if this temporary certificate
graBted, pursuant to the provisions.of Subsection b of
paragraph 5 of Section ]49 of the T]'a~sportation Law,
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file a proper petition with
the appropriate officer of
the County of Suffolk.
TWENTY-THIRD: Based on its prior record of
reliable service to the South Fork, ~md the many things
it has learned about seasonal and full-year operation to
the South Fork of Long Island, it i:~ well equipped and
well experienced to provide quality transportation
"' ~ service for the people of New York City and the North
Fork on a seaonal and year-round ba:~in. It has the
reservation capacity and rolling stock capacity to
provide low-cost, comfortable transportation for large
numbers of people to and from New Yo~ k City to the North
Fork with frequent departures and with the flexibility
to add additional sections on a sin(lc departure time
when reservations indicate that such would be required
to accommodate all those intendinq to use such
departure. The Hampton Jitney has trained, experienced
personnel to provide high-quality s{~rv]ce and is able to
provide, through its prior certifica~..ion, a connection
'-,' with the Queens airports for North ~.nd South Fork
'!:., travelers.
· TWENTY-FOURTH: Neither Applicant , nor any of
-~. officers or directors have been convicted of any
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violation of any provision of the Int:(~cst:ate Commerce
Act,' or been sued for a penalty or iniunction under the
provisions of the Public Service Law or the
Transportation Law.
WIiERBFORE, your petitioner pra~i for the issuance
of the Commissioner of Transportation of a temporary
certificate of public convenience, and necessity for the
maintenance and operation of a motor busline upon and
over the streets, avenues and highways as set forth i~
paragraph "SIXTH" of this petition ,md for such other
and further relief as may be just and equitable.
November 10, 1981
Yours~ ~3t C.
TWOMEY, t,ATHAM & SCHMITT
Attorneys for Petitioner
33 West 2nd Street
P.O. Box ]98
Riverhead, N.Y. ~1901
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