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MEMBERS
Robert ~,Y~. Gillisc~i¢, Jr., Chairman
Chades Gresonis, Jr.
Frzd Huls¢, dr.
Southoid Town Board o£ Appeals
srlUTHDLD, L. I., N. Y.
Telephone SO 5-2(560
MINUTES
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF APPEALS
December 5, 1968
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Board of Appeals was
held at 7:30 P.M., Thursday~ December 5~ 1968~ at the Town Hall,
Southold~ New York.
There were present: Robert W. Gillispie, Jr., Chairmans Robert
Bergen, Fred Hulse, Charles Grigonis.
Absent: Mr. Serge Doyens Jr.
3:30 P.M.(E.S.T.), Upon application of North Fork Lions Club
of Greenport~ and Rotary Club of Greenports P.O. Box 204s Greenports
New York, for a special exception in a~cordance with the Zoning
Ordinances Article III, Section 300, Subsection 10, for permission
to erect an off premises directional sign on the property of Floyd
F. King~ 3r.s Greenport, New York, bounded north by L.I. Sounds east
by Ernest Wiggins, south by Main Road, and D. Ripleys west by William
J. Pollert. Fee paid $5.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the applicatinn for
a special exceptions legal notice of hearing, affidavit attesting to
its publication in the official newspaper, and notice to the
applicant.
THE ~HAIRMAN~ Is there anyone present who wishes to speak for
application?
MR. HULSE: I would like to say that I was talking to a representative
of the Rotary Club, and he planned to be here tonight but he had ~o go
~RMAN: Did he say where he wants to put the sign?
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HOWARD TERRY~ Building Inspector: They would prefer it between
the Island End% signs.
THE CHAIRMAN: The Rotary Club is going to erect the stanction and
put the Lions Club sign on it.
MR. BERGEN: These are not directimnal signs, they are
information signs, letting the people ~now these clubs are in the
T own.
THE CHAIRMAN: They are courtersy signs.
MR. BERGEN: I think they are good service clubs and should be
recognized.
THE CHAIR~t~N: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that the
applicant requests permission to erect off premises signs for the
Rotary Club and Lions Club. These signs are in the interest of
the general public inview of thefact they advise there are such
clubs in the community. The signs also advise of the time and
place of meeting of these clubs. This sign shall be located between
the two present Island End Golf and Country Club signs now located on
the premises on the north side of the woad.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
B~[,~ED North Fork Lions Club of Greenport and Rotary Club
of Greenport, be granted permission to erect an off premises sign
on the property of Floyd F. King~ Jr., north side Route 25, Greenport~
New York~ subject to the following conditions:
1. The sign shall be subject to all subsequent changes in the
Southold Town BuildingZone Ordi~ce as it applies to signs.
2. The sign shall be granted for a period of one year~ renewable
annually upon written application to the Board of Appeals.
3. The sign shall be located at least five feet from any property
line.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Hulse,
Mr. Grigo~is.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -3- December 5, 1968
PUBLIC HEP~ING: Appeal No. 1222 - 7:45 P.M.(E.S.T.), Upon
application of Rev. Robert C. Haupt~ 52 New Mill Road, Smithtown,
New York, for a variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance,
Article III, Section 307, for permission to construct addition with
insufficient side yard. Location of property: Lots 73 & 74 of
Gardiners Bay Estaees~ east side of private road~ East Marion, New York,
bounded north by H.C. Heess, east by Ao g. Vishhauser, ~omth by H.Fo
Rossmeyer, west by private road. Fee paid $5.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the applicstion
for a var~ nce~ legal notice of hearing~ affidavit attesting to its
publication, and notice to the applicant.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak for
this application?
REV. HAUPT: Gardiners Bay Co. must approve all plans for bu~in9
in here. They have reviewed this and they have given approval of it.
I have the approval with me if you would like to see it.
THE CHAIRMAN: Their requirement is six feet on the side yard?
MR. HAUPT: Yes.
THE CHAIRMAN:~ This Gardiners Bay Estates is part of the Zoning
Ordinanee, I believe. This means that several of the lots do~n there
are undersized, as you skated in the application. Obviously, zoning
can't change something that has already happened. On the side of the
lot where you propose tomake the addition you have 18 feet. On the
other side you have 38 feet. How much distance is there between
this lot line and the house to the north?
5~. HAUPT: About 30 to B5 feet.
THE CHAPMAN: It looked like that to me. Do you use this house
yourself?
MR. HAUPT: Yes.
MR. BERGEN: Do you live there year around?
MR. HAUPT: We don't have heat in it as yet.
MR. BERGEN: Are there people aroundyou year around?
MR. HAUPT: No on that street.
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THE CHAIRMAN: I think that the only reason that this can be
granted is because the lot is undersized.
5~. HULSE: The lot is not undersized.
THE CHAPMAN: The lot is 120 feet by 140 feet. If the lot
was undersized we could grant a reduction of 50 per cent.
MR. BERGEN: Did you by anychance ask your neighbor what he
thought about this?
MR. HAUFr: Yes. No objection. We had alternate plans and he
suggested this would be the best as far as appearance is concerned.
It is also more economical to do it this way.
THE CHAIRMAN: We are not permitted to consider financial
hardship.
N~R. HAUPT: My reasin for my request for the variance was the
understanding when I built the house that I could build on this way.
MR. HULSE: When did you build the house?
MR. t{AUPT: In 1954.
~{g CHAIRMAN: At that time there was no zoning requirement. You
bought two lots, right?
MR. HAUPT: R~ght.
THE CHAIRMAN: Across the street from Mr. Haupt there is a lot
50 feet wide that was just sold the other day. On a SO foot lot, held
in single and separate ownership prior to the Ordinance, the side
yards can be reduced by 50%. It seems a little unreasonable in
Gardiners Bay Estates to &sk the applicant to stay a full 10 feet from
the side line. There is no real hardship~ there is plenty of room
on the lot to build this room. It is just a question of appearance
and financial~ which we are not permitted to consider. The people
across the street can reduce the side yard by 50%, and you are
asking for the same privilege excppt for six feet. Your testimony is
that you bought the house with these plans to add onto it. This
subdivision is part of the Ordinance. The road can never be made a
Town Road.
5~. BERGEN: The fact that Gardiners Bay Estates Company recognizes
this and goes along with it, I would go along with it. If it was
going to hinder Gardiner Bay Estates they would not approve it.
F~. GRIGONI$: I am inclined to go along with this.
The Chairman: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
nst this application?
(There was no respond.)
Southold Town Board ~f Appeals
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ODecember 5, 1968
After investi9ation and inspection the Board finds that the
applicant requests permission to construct an addition with insufficient
side yard. The applicant is the owner of two lot s in Gardiners
Bay Estates. This subdivision was made part of the Zoning Ordinance
in 1957 as the lots in this subd~ision are undersized. Ail undersized
lots held in single and separate ownership are automatically granted
a 50~ reduction in side yard. The 0ranting of this variance will
not harm this area. The Board also points out that the street this
lot fronts on will never become a Town road in view of the fact it
is too narrow.
The Board finds that strict applicati~ of the Ordinance will
produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship~ the hardship
created is unique and would be shared by all properties alike in
the immediate vicinity ~ this property and in the same use district;
a~d the variance does observe the spirit of the Ordinance and will
not change the character of the district.
On motion by Mr. Gri9onis, seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED Rev. Robert C. ~aupt, 52 New Mill Road, Smithtown,
New York~ be 9ranted permission to construct additionx~k~with
insufficient side yardm property located east side of private road,
East ~'~zimn, New York.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- 5~ Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Hulse,
Mr. Grigonis.
The Hearing on Appeal No.1219, George W. Smith & Sons, a/c
J. E. Fontana, was reopened.
Smith appeared in behalf of the application.
THE CHAIR[,ta2N: Can't this addition be put on the rear of the
house.
I,~. SMITH: You don't take into consideration aestics, but
this can't be put on the rear of the house.
I~. BRRGEN: This a~ition is just about one half of what he has
there now.
THE CHAIRSt~N: The house is pretty small.
(Mr. Smith explained the present layout of the house and the
proposed addition and explained why it had to be done as was proposed
in the application.)
THE CHAIRMAN: I don't see anyway we cam 9rant this application.
There is plenty Of room in the rear of the property where he could
put the additinn. Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no response.)
Southold Town Board of Appeals -6- December 5~ 1968
After investigation and inspection the Board f~ds that the
applicant requests permission to ~r~ construct an adoption to an
existing building with reduced front yard setback. The Board finds
there is no legal hardship involved in this case. The applicant
has ample room to construct an ~ddition in the rear yard of his
property, and therefore should~e permitted to encroach on the
front yard area.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance would
not produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship; the
hardship created ~s not unique and would be shared by all properties
alike in the immediate vicinity of this property and in the same use
district; the variance does not observe the spirit of the Ordinance
and would change the character of the district.
On motion by ~. Gillis~ie, seconded by Mr. Hulse~ it was
RESOLVED George W. Smith & Sons, Main Street~ 6outhold, New
York, afc J.M. Fontana, Chestnut Road, Southold~ New York,
be DENIED permission to construct an addition with reduced front
yard setback.
Vote of the ~ard: Ayes;- 5~r. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Hulse~
Mr. Grigonis.
Mr. Thomas Cosello and Mr. Michel Russo appeared before the
Board in regard to signs, gasoline station, and reduction in 25%
landscaping for the Mattituck Shopping Center. Plans for the
shopping center were shown to the Board. Mr. Bergen stated that
he would ~bstain from voting on the application for the gasoline
service station. Types of signs to be used was discussed at some
lenght. The Board indicated they would be willing to go along
with a reduction in the requirement of 25% of the area of the
shopping center landscape~ so that there could be additi~al
parking facilities. Both ~he gasoline service Station and the
reduction in landscaped ~rea must come before the Board of Appeals
at a public hearin9.
The next regular meetin0 of the Southold Town B~ard of Appeals
will be ~d at 7:30 P.M., Thursday, January 2, 1969, at the Town Hall,
Southold, New York.
Southold To~n Board of Appeals -7- December 5, 1968
The Board took up the matter of Appeal ~. 1217, Clifford Tyler.
On motinn by ~. Gillispie, seconded by 5~. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED the application of Clifford and Edwina Tyler~ appeal
number 1217, which was heard at a public hearing November ~ 7, 1968,
for a special exception in accordance with the ZoninO Ordinance~ Article
III, Section 308, as it applies to Article IV, for permission to
operate a transient trailer camp area be granted for a period of two
years. At the end of two years, the applicant may apply for a renewal.
The Board of Appeals finds it is their obligation to the Town of Southold
to determine after two years , trail period, whether or not this use
should be continued. The findings of the Board are, the area to be
used is reasonably well buffered by vacant business land, as well as
vacant residential land.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Hulse~
~. Grigonis.
The meeting was adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
Barbara C. Dittmann, Secretary
Southold Town Board of Appeals