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MEMBERS
Robert ~/. Gillispi¢, Jr., Ch~irm~n
Robert Berscn
Charles Gregonis, .Jr.
Serge Doyen, Jr.
Fred Hulse, Jr.
Southold Town Board of Appeals
-~nUTHI3LD, L, I,, N, Y,
Telephone SO 5-2660
MINUTES
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF APPEALS
December 30, 1965
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Board of Appeals
was held at 7:30 P.M., Thursday, December 30, 1965, at the
Town Office, Main Road, Southold, New York.
There were present: Messrs: Robert W. Gillispie, Jr.,
Chairman; Robert Bergen, Fred Hulse, Jr., Serge Doyen, Jr.
Absent: Mr. Charles Grigonis, Jr.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 818 - 7:30 P.M., (E.S.T.), upon
application of Frank Wills and Joella and Barrie Vreeland,
Mattituck, New York, for recognition of access in accordance
with the State of New York Town Law, Section 280A. Location
of property: south side private road, Mattituck, New York,
bounded north by Private Road, east by Captain Kidd Estates,
south by Right-of-Way, west by O.G. Pike and Others. Fee
paid $5.00.
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December 30, 1965
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for recognition of access, legal notice of hearing, affidavit
attesting to its publication in the official newspaper, and
notice to the applicant.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to be
heard in favor of this application?
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to be
heard in opposition to this application?
~There was no response.)
MR. ~ERGEN: I would like to say that the Chairman, Howard~
and myself looked at this property. I can see no reason why
it should not be changed.
MR. HULSE: I also went and looked at the property/
THE CHAIRMAN: Are there any other comments?
(There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
the applicants request approval of access over a private
right-of-way. The Board finds that this proposed road will
begin at Captain Kidd and Linda Road. The Board finds that
this right-of-way is accessible for all emergency vehicles
and thus the safety of the public is insured.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance
will produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created is unique and would not be shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property
and in the same use district; and the variance does observe
the spirit of the Ordinance and will not change the character
of the district.
On motion by Mr. Bergen, seconded by Mr. Hulse, it was
RESOLVED that Frank Wills ~nd Joella and Barrie Vreeland,
Mattituck, New York, be granted approval of access on a private
road to begin at Captain Kidd and LindaRoad, Mattituck, New
York, subject tothe following condition:
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1. ~he brush on the side of the right-ef-way shall be
cut back to provide 16 feet of clear access over the proposed
road.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen,
Mr. Hulse, Mr. Doyen.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the Southold Town Board of
Appeals dated December 16, 1965, be approved as submitted.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen,
Mr. Hulse, Mr. Doyen.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeml No. 819 - 7:45 P.M.(E.S.T.), Upon
application of Mary B. Wood, Peconic Bay Blvd., Laurel, New
York, for a variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance,
Article III, Section 303, Article X, Section 1000A, for per-
mission to divide property, and for recognition of access in
accordance with the State of New York Town Law Section 280A.
Location of property: south side Peconic Bay Blvd., Lot ~5,
in Arthur L. Downs Subdivision, Laurel, New York~ Fee paid
$5.0O.
The Chairman opened the hearing by rea~7~he application
for a variance and recognition of access, affidavit attesting
to its publication in the official newspaper, and notice to
the applicant.
THE CHA//kMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
in favor of this application?
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no response. )
THE CHAIRMAN: Are there any questions that any one would
like to ask?
(There was no response.)
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MR. BERGEN: We looked over this property. There is no
other way to divide this property.
MR. HULSE: What is proposed by the applicant is the most
practical way to divide the property.
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
the applicant wishes to divide a parcel of land and thus
create two lots. The lot in question is an oversized lot
containing approximately 23,222 square feet. After the
division of this property the lot being created directly
on Peconic Bay Blvd., will be 9,793 square feet. The
rear lot to be created on Peconic Bay will contain 13,429
square feet, which is larger than required by the Zoning
Ordinance. The Board finds that this division of property
will rmt change the character of the district, as there will
still be only one one family dwelling on each of the lots
created.
The Board further finds that the applicant request
recognition of access to the lot to be created on Peconic
Bay. This right-of-way will be 15 feet wide and 160.13
feet long, located on the southwest side of the lot created
directly on Peconic Bay Blvd. This right-of-way will be
used for the passage of vehicles to reach the lot on Peconic
Bay. There will be another right-of-way 6 feet wide by
161.13 feet long, located on the southwest side of the lot
created on Peconic Bay to be used for walking purposes only.
This right-of-way will be used for access to the beach. The
Board finds that the 15 foot right of way will be accessible
to all emergency equipment.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance
will produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created is unique and would not be shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property
and in the same use district; and the variance does observe
the spirit of the Ordinance and will not change the character
of this district.
On motion by Mr. Bergent seconded by Mr. Gillispie, it was
RESOLVED that Mary B. Wood, Peoonic Bay Blvd., Laurel,
New York, be granted permission for the following:
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1. Permission is granted for the division of property
as shown on the map by Otto Van Tuyl & Son, dated August 27,
1965, and revised October 28, 1965.
2. Permis~on is granted for the use of a 15 foot right-
of-way running 160.13 feet from Peoonic Bay Blvd. to the rear
lot created by the applicant, located on the south west side
of the lot directly on Pemonic Bay Blvd., to be used for the
passage of vehicles to reach the rear lot created.
3. Permission is granted for the use of a 6 foot right-
of-way, running 161.13 feet from the beginning of the rear lot
created by the applicant to the ordinary high water mark of
Peconic Bay, located on the south west side of the rear lot
created, to be used for foot passage only for access to the
hem ch.
Vote of theBoard: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen,
Mr. Hul~e, Mr. Doyen.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 820 - 8:00 P.M.(E.S.T.), Upon
application of Island's End Golf and Country Club, North Road,
Greenport, New York, for a special exception in accordance
with the Zoning Ordinance~ Article III, Section 300, Subsection
5 (c) for permission to use property for accessory uses to a
golf and country club. Location of property: North side North
Road, Greenport, New York, bounded north by other land of Island's
End Golf and Country Club, east by land of the Village of
Greenport, south by land of the Village of Greenport and L.V.
Brown, west by other land of Island's End Golf and Country
Club. ~ee paid $5.00.
The Chairman opened t~e hearing by reading the application
for a special exception, legal notice of hearing, affidavit
attesting to its publication in the official newspaper, and
notice to the applicant.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application?
ERNEST RICHTER, (Member of the Board of Directors:) I am
here to speak for the application.
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MR. HULSE: What are the accessory uses that this
additional land will be used for?
MR. RICHTER: Everything that is on the application.
The only other possible thing would be a tennis court, but
I don't know where that would go. Someone has mentioned
a swimming pool, but I don't think that will be for quite
some time yet .... everything that goes along with a golf
and country club.
MR. HULSE: For the present it will be for practise?
MR. RICHTER: It will be a putting green, driving range
and practise sand trap.
THE CHAIRMAN: I believe it is common where the grantee
obtains additional land to include it in %he original special
exception. That is why you are here tonight, to make this
aprt of the original special exception granted for the
operation of the golf and country club.
MR. HULSE: This is not going to be a public driving
range.
MR. RICHTER: A person would have to pay the green fees
in order to use the driving range. We will not be operating
a public driving range.
THE CHAIRMAN: Are there any other questions?
(There was no response.
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that the
applicant request permission to use additional land for accessory
uses to a golf and country club. The Board finds that the
accessory uses will be a putting green, driving range and
practise aand trap. The applicant also stated that a tennis
court might be installed at some time, however, this would be
at some future date. All of these facilities created on the
newly acquired property shall be used by the people paying
green fees and their guest and shall not be open to the
general public.
The Board finds that the p~blic convenience and welfare
and justice will be served and the legally established or
permitted use of neighborhood property and adjoining use
districts will not be permanently or substantially injured
and the spirit of the Ordinance will be observed.
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1965
On motion by Mr. Hulse, seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOL¥~U that Island's En~ Golf and Country Club, North
Road, Greenport, New York, be granted permission to use pro-
perty for accessory uses to a golf and country club. Location
of property: north side North Road, Greenport, New York. A
condition of this special exception is: This special exception
use shall be subject to all the conditions set forth by the
Board of Appeals in the special exception granted to Island's
En$ Golf and Country Club on October 22, 1964.
Vote of the Board:
Hulse, Mr. Soyen.
Ayes:-~.
Gillispie, Mr. Bergen,
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 821 - 8:15 P.M.(E.S.T.), Upon
application of J. William Kastner~ Bungalow Lane, Mattituck,
New York, for a variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance,
Article III, Section 303, and Article X, Section 1000A~ for
permission to divide property. Location of property north east
side Bungalow Lane, Mattituck, New York, bounded north by Creek~
east by L. Allemon, south by Bungalow Lane, west by Floyd R.
Vail. Fee paid $5.00.
The Chairman oP~ the hearing by reading the application
for a variance, le~ice of hearing, affidavit attesting to
its publication i~°fficial newspaper, and notice to the
applicant.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application, and that would be you Mr. Kastner.
J. W~?.$.IAM KASTNER: May I give him 10 more feet of this
land without applying again.
THE CHAIRMAN: Whatever is decided here tonight.
J. WI?.?.IAM KASTNER: That never was one piece of property,
it was always two pieces of property.
(Mr. Kastner pointed to the sketch and indicated the
dwellings and lot he has sold and the dwelling and lot on
which he resides. Mr. Kastner also indicated 25 feet of
land that was bought separately at one time. He stated
that he had always had two separate deeds for this land.)
THE CHAIRMAN: As far as zoning is concerned, If I own
four pieces of property and I got them each at different
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times, they are still considered one piece of property by
our Zoning Ordinance.
j. WTT,T.I.~M. KASTNER: When I acquired the last piece of
property, I put this ~ointing to sketch) on the market in
1944. There was no real estate market then. I had one
prospect and that was a priest and he wouldn't come within
a thousan~dollars of my price. I had one other offer. A
real estate broker called me up and said he had a prospect,
to send him the deed. Well, I was told not to ~rust this
broker with a deed so I never sent it and I never heard
any more from him. At one time I was considering selling
the bungalow and having the pmrchaser move it off the
property. I have never considered this one piece of property.
MR. HULSE: Which is the correct frontage on this lot you've
kept for yourself, 100 feet or 125 feet? On one sketch you have
100 feet and on the other you have 125 feet.
MR. BERGEN: The frontage is 125 feet.
MR. HULSE: How far is the house here (Pointing to sketch$
from this line?
J. WILLIAM EASTNER; About 30 to 35 feet.
MR. HULSE: These two dwelling are being bought by the
same person?
J. WTT.TJ. AM KASTNER: Yes.
THE CHAIRMAN: The purchaser will probably want to sell
ene of the dwellings now.
J. W??.T. IAM HASTHER: He does not intend to sell it now.
THE CHAIRMAn1: He may not want to sell it now, but he might
in the future. Then we would have the problem of dividing this
lot again. Cutting up property into small undersized lots tends
to decrease the value of the property.
J. WILLIAM KASTNER: You speak about the descrease in
property values, what about that trailer that has been there
without even a permit. That decrease the value of our property,
yet we get no decrease in our assessment.
THE CHAIRMAN: What trailer is that sir?
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(Mr. Kastner advised the Board of the location of the
trailer in Marratooker Park and stated that the trailer had
been there for two or three years. He also stated that most
of the adjoining property owners signed a petition against the
trailer, however, the trailer still remains on the location.
Howard Terry, Building Inspector stated that he had filed
an information with the Justice of Peace, however, the case is
still pending.)
J. WILLIAM KASTNER: This trailer cost an adjoining
property owner the sale of her property. Mrs. Wickhamwas
going to sell her entire frontage. When the prospective
purchaser saw the trailer he didn't want to buy the land.
Mrs. Wickham told the customer that the trailer was only there
for storage until the owner could find a place to put it.
The next weekend when the prospective buyer came down to
sign the contract the trailer was put on a foundation and
a cesspool was being dug. The man wouldn*t buy the property
with the trailer there. There is one lot between Mrs.
Wickham~s property and the trailer, that is Mrs. Barker's
lot.
THE CHAIRMAN~ How many people would you say are affected
by this trailer.
j. WTTm.iAMKASTNER: Everyone in Marratooka Park, Abrams,
Richardst C.H. Wickham, Col. Haden..o..o
THE CHAIRMAN: How long ago was this trailer parked?
j. WTT~IAMKASTNER: About two years ago.
HOWARD TERRY: It was more like three years ago.
THE CHAIRMAN: Most of the residents of the Marratooka Park
area are affected by this trailer and signed a petition
requesting the removal of this trailer, which is in existence
without a permit on a foundation, with a cesspool , on an
undersized lot. t think that we should call this matter to
the attention of the Town Board.
(A letter was written to the Southold Town Board calling
their attention to the existence of this trailer. A portion
of the minutes containing information about the trailer given
by Mr. Kastner is to be enclosed with the letter.)
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MR. HULSE: How deep is this lot from Bungalow Lane to the Creek?
J. WILLL%MKASTNER: About 350 feet
THE CHAIRMAN: Are there any other questions ?
MR. DOYEN: Where is the access to this lot?
THE CHAIRMAN: An additional 10 feet should be made part
of this parcel.
j. WT?~.IAM EASTNER: I want to use the 10 feet for outside
work.
THE CHAIRMAN: We can lay down the law on this, and say
that you must sell an additional 10 feet before this variance
will be granted.
MR. HULSE: Does this garage on the 50 foot lot go with
the house in the front?
J. WILLIAM KASTNER: It goes with both houses. I am not
able to maintain all the work on this whole parcel of land
that is why. I am selling the 50 foot lot. I gave the purchaser
a five year option, I would sell him an additional 10 feet
in five years even if I am able to still garden this property.
I will sell the 10 feet now if I have to.
THE CHAIRMAN: If Mr. Allemon decides to divide this property
he will have to get access to the rear lot.
MR. HULSE: When he divides the property he will have to
apply for access at that time.
THE CHAIRMAN: An additional 10 feet would g~e more
room in case of a division of this property and if access
was needed to a rear lot.
j. WTTJ.IAM KASTNER: I will give him the additional 10
feet now.
(The Board and Mr. Kastner discussed the additional
10 feet to be sold to Mr. Allemon.)
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After investigation and inspection the Board finds
that J. William Kastner was the owner of a~rcel of land
appro=imately 175 feet by 300 feet. Mr. Kastner then sold
one parcel of land with 50 foot frontage on Bungalow Lane,
with two dwellings and one garage on it. He retained 125
feet for himself. The lot with 125 foot frontage has one
dwelling on it. The lot sold to Mr. Allemon, the 50 foot
lot, has less frontage than required by the Zoning Ordinance,
however, it meets the requirements for the total area.
The Board finds that the lot with 50 foot frontage sold to
Mr. Allemon was bought as a separate piece of property by
the applicant in 1926. The applicant's remaining piece of
property, 125 feet frontage on Bungalow Lane was purchased
as a separate piece of property in 1946. The two lots are
separated by a hedge and a rail fence. In the Board's
opinion this is a unique situation. However the Board
requires the applicant to convey an additional 10 feet to
Mr. Allemon to give him 60 feet frontage on Bungalow Lane.
The Board finds that the division of this property will not
change the character of the district as there are other 50
foot lots in this immediate area.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance
will produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created is unique and would not be shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property
and in the same use district; and the variance does observe
the spirit of the Ordinance and will not chang e the character
of the district.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED that J. William Kastner~ Bungalow Lane~ Mattitucke
New York~ be granted permission to divide property located on
the north east side of Bungalow Lanee Mattituck~ New York.
This variance is granted subject to the following condition:
1. Mr. J. William Kastner shall convey to Leon L. and
Lores P. Allemon, purchasers of the property to the east~ an
additional area described as a parcel of land which is 10
feet on Bungalow Lane, the westerly line of which shall be
parrallel to the westerly line of J. William Kastner, estab-
lished in 1946 before the 25 foot addition to the Kastner
property to the west in 1948. The parcel described which is
pie shaped with narrow end toward Deep Hole Creek, is to be
added to the parcel of land now owned by Leon L. and Lores P.
Allemon described as being 50 feet by 300 feet. The result
will give Mr. Allemon 60 feet on Bungalow Lane and slightly
less footage on Deep Hole Creek.
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Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen~
Mr. Hulse, Mr. Doyen.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Hulse, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals set
7:30 P.M.(E.S.T.), Thursday~ January 13, 1966, at theTown
Office, Main Road~ Southold, New York, as the time and
place of hearing upon application of Helmut Hass~ North Road,
Southold~ New York, for a variance in accordance with the
Zoning Ordinance, Article III~ Section 303, Article X~ Section
1000A, for permission to change lot layout on building per-
mits with insufficient frontage and area. Location of pro-
perty: south side North Road, private subdivision south side
Old Cove Blvd., bounded north by Old Cove Blvd., east by
Beverly Road, south by Donal Bowman, - Pond, west by Chester
Smulcheski.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen,
Mr. Hulse, Mr. Doyen.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Doyen, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals set
8:00 P.M.~.S.T.), Thursday, January 13, 1966, at the Town
Office, Main Road, Southold~ New York, as time and place
of hearing upon application of Samuel Glickman, Esq., a/c
Blake Bolling, Aqueborgue, New York, for a special exception
in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article X, Section
10003A, for permission to operate a non-farm labor camp.
Location of property: east side Queen Street, Greenport, New
York, bounded north by Simon Malinauckas, east by Mrs. Emil
Conklin, south by Steven Sledjeski, west by ~en Street.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie~ Mr. Bergen,
Mr. Hulse, Mr. Doyen.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:30 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
~- Barbara C. Dittmann, Secretary
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