HomeMy WebLinkAboutTB-06/21/2005SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
June 21, 2005
4:30 P.M.
A Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board was held Tuesday, June 21, 2005 at the
Southold Town Hall, Southold, New York. Supervisor Horton opened the meeting at 4:30 P.M. with
the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
Present:
Supervisor Joshua Y. Horton
Justice Louisa P. Evans
Councilman John M. Romanelli
Councilman Thomas H. Wickham
Councilman Daniel C. Ross
Councilman William P. Edwards
Town Clerk Elizabeth A. Neville
Town Attorney Patricia A. Finnegan
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Welcome to the June 21st public meeting of the Southold Town Board.
Please rise and join with me in the Pledge of Allegiance. Before we get started, I want to congratulate
the Mattituck Lions for another successful Strawberry Festival. There was a lot of fun being had by all
those who attended and in addition, a lot of the volunteer fire departments were helpful, several
community members and the Southold Town Police Department for insuring traffic control and public
safety. As we move forward in the meeting, we will offer the opportunity for the public to address the
Town Board at several times over the course of the evening. The first will be prior to the reading and
voting on any of the resolutions that are on our agenda this evening, the public may address the Town
Board on any of those specific resolutions. In addition, just prior to the conclusion of the meeting we
off'er the public to address the Town Board on other town related items. I don't believe we have any
public hearings this evening but if we did, the public would be invited again to address the Town
Board on those specific matters. We have public notices, reports, communications and other town
documents available for the public's review at the Town Clerk's office which is open Monday through
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Friday 8:00 A.M. to 4:00 P.M. I do ask that when addressing the Town Board at the meeting, you do
so from one of the two microphones located at the front of the room, state your name and place of
residence clearly into the microphone so we can incorporate that into our record. At this point we will
move forward with our agenda. First, seeking a motion on the approval of the audit.
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the following town bills be and hereby are ordered paid: General Fund Whole Town
bills in the amount of $329,026.19; General Fund Part Town bills in the amount of $1,038.72;
Community Development Fund bills in the amount of $3,600.00; Risk Retention Fund bills in the
amount of $2,096.85; Highway Fund Part Town bills in the amount of $16,665.20; Capital Projects
Account bills in the amount of $239,560.10; Community Preservation Fund (2 % tax) bills in the
amount of $2,121,217.00; New London Terminal Project bills in the amount of $331,349.77; Fishers
Island Ferry District bills in the amount of $20,396.17; Refuse & Garbage District bills in the amount
of $79,734.78; Fishers Island Sewer District bills in the amount of $20,197.84; Southold Agency &
Trust bills in the amount of $13,130.49 and Fishers Island Ferry District Agency & Trust bills in the
amount of $93.02.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the May 10, 2005 Southold Town Board Regular Meeting be and
hereby are declared approved.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the next Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board be held Tuesday, July 5, 2005
at the Southold Town Hall, Southold, New York at 7:30 P.M.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
I. REPORTS
1. Town Clerk Monthly Report May 2005
2. Program for the Disabled May 2005 Events
3. Southold Town Justice Court, Bruer May 2005
4. Southold Town Justice Court, Evans May 2005
5. Southold Town Justice Court, Price May 2005
6. Board of Town Trustees May 2005
II. PUBLIC NOTICES
1. Department of the Army, NY District, Corps of Engineers, Application of Thomas O'Neil to
dredge in Goose Creek, Southold Bay, Shelter Island Sound, Southold. Comments by July 5,
2005.
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2. Department of the Army, NY District, Corps of Engineers, application of Mark Tesser to
construct a pier assembly in Mattituck Creek, Long Island Sound, Southold. Comments by
June 17, 2005.
3. New York State Department of Environmental Conservation Notice of Complete Application
of Gregersen's Keep LLC to subdivide/reconfigure two adjoining parcels into two lots at 1960
Gull Pond Lane on Gull Pond Inlet, Town of Southold. Written comments by July 15, 2005.
III. COMMUNICATIONS
None
SUPERVISOR HORTON: At this point I turn the floor over to the public to address the Town Board
on specific resolutions that would appear on this evening's agenda. Yes, Mr. Walsh.
BILL WALSH: My name is Bill Walsh, I represent CSEA Suffolk Local 852. Mr. Supervisor,
members of the Town Board, I am here this evening to address your resolution 402. I would just like
to say that it has probably been a long, bumpy road over the last 30 months or so. Let me say that the
last 30 months or so have been a real bumpy road for all of us. We at CSEA believe that we are
partners with you, the Town Board and the employees. For all of us concerned the last 30 months have
been pressing on both sides, but finally we have come to a conclusion. I would personally on behalf of
all CSEA members in the Town of Brookhaven, or I am out of Brookhaven, sorry that is where I live,
the Town of Southold, I would like to thank the Supervisor, members of the Town Board for getting
this to this point tonight. Without the hard work of all of you and the CSEA members, we would not
be here. So I look forward to, I don't know if I will be here at the time when you actually pass the
resolution but I look forward it being passed. I also look forward to working with all of you in the
future, as well as the new local or unit executive board members. Thank you very much.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Just one moment. (Inaudible comments from floor) And if we could...
JUSTICE EVANS: Should we pass that resolution?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Yeah, why don't we vote on that resolution now?
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Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby ratifies and approves the terms
and conditions of the tentative agreement with CSEA~ Local 1000~ AFSCME AFL-CIO~ Town of
Southold Unit 8785 of Suffolk Local 852 (CSEA) dated June 7, 2005 and be it further
RESOLVED that Supervisor Joshua Y. Horton is hereby authorized and directed to execute a
successor Collective Bargaining Agreement with CSEA subject to the approval of the Town Attorney.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: That will be signed first thing in the morning.
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MR. WALSH: Thank you very much. Thank all of you very much. We do appreciate it. Have a nice
evening.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Would anybody else care to address the Town Board on specific
resolutions? Yes, Mr. Carlin?
FRANK CARLIN: Good evening. I got one, Josh.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Yes.
MR. CARLIN: #389 and #400. Isn't that a duplicate there? Releasing Bruce Hubert from a position
at Fishers Island Constable and then appointing him as Fishers Island Constable? Isn't that a
duplicate?
JUSTICE EVANS: The second one is a Bay Constable.
MR. CARLIN: Oh, well you see you didn't say that.
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: One says Constable, one says...
MR. CARLIN: That, that, that's...
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: It was a trick question.
MR. CARLIN: That is your answer right there.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Yeah, the clarification is from Constable to Bay Constable.
MR. CARLIN: I am not quite up on that stufl~
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Well thank you for asking. Indeed. Are there other questions on specific
resolutions? Mrs. Egan.
JOAN EGAN: Good evening, Joan Egan from East Marion. Mr. Horton, Mr. Ross, Mr. Edwards, Mr.
Romanelli, Mrs. Evans, Mr. Wickham, Mrs. Neville and the lady at the end.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: That is Mrs. Finnegan.
MS. EGAN: Yeah, I know. Of course, before we start, I am sure you all took the opportunity, you
know on the front page, the Southold Town Justice Court's reports and I know there you are only
getting it for the money but you should really, really read them. It is getting worse and worse and
worse. Horrible, what has happened to our town. And nobody seems to care. Okay, now, 376. Who
needs these transcripts, Mr. Horton or anyone up there who is qualified to answer?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: I am looking for the resolution. You said 376?
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MS. EGAN: Yeah, the first one.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: #376 is authorize modification to the General Fund Part Town for
transcription of public testimony minutes for the Zoning Board of Appeals. Those are required by law.
MS. EGAN: Do we always do that?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Yes.
MS. EGAN: Oh, okay.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: And the reason it, if we had to pay to have Town Board minutes
transcribed, it would probably be that much more, the amount of dialogue back and forth.
MS. EGAN: Good. And now 381, this Westlaw Order Form, what is that about?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: What did she say, 3817
MS. EGAN: 381.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Westlaw is a legal information research tool that attorneys throughout the
State of New York, actually throughout the country, access and it is, there is a licensing fee to have
access to that information.
MS. EGAN: Good. Now, there are a number of items in regard to the Human Resource Center and I
will sum all of them up by saying I don't think it is good and I have been very repetitive in it, when
they have constant change of personnel and now you are getting a new cook and now you need new
furniture, I don't think that it is managed well. Something has to be wrong when there are so many
changes. Don't tell me who does a good job, I know the people better than you do, okay? Now, item
384, what is that all about.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Resolution 384 you said?
MS. EGAN: Mmmhmm.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Okay, let me turn to that please. This was in relation to a minor
subdivision and prior to approvals of any type development projects, that would be subdivisions, the
applicant or the company that is the applicant is required to post a bond, basically as an insurance
policy, that infrastructure improvements are completed.
MS. EGAN: Would that be applicable for 385 then also?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Yes. Yes.
MS. EGAN: Now, what is this 386? Is this grandstanding for Southold?
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SUPERVISOR HORTON: No, this is not grandstanding for Southold, this is a wonderful program that
was instituted by a local resident, on her own time...
MS. EGAN: And I am on my own time.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Yes, you are on your own time. She, Ms. Croteau actually put this program
forward about two years ago and garnered the support of local artists to help decorate the several
garbage cans that are placed throughout the Town. We have received a grant to do another round of
those cans and we are appropriating those funds to make that happen.
MS. EGAN: Well, I think that it is nice but you know, they do, I don't know who does it but they do
steal them, they do smash them and unless they are seen doing it, it is a done deed and I did notice that
I quite frequently go up Rocky Point Road and there was no garbage container there...
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Okay.
MS. EGAN: ... and I was wondering why that wasn't there. And of course ....
SUPERVISOR HORTON: I will write that down, actually.
MS. EGAN: ... 387, I addressed about the Human Resource Center. Now, okay, 388, now who trains
these young people to so to speak, man our beaches?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Well, if you are a lifeguard, there is an actual certification...
MS. EGAN: Yeah.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: ...process that you would have to go through. Beach attendants doesn't
require tremendous amount of training, however, the Recreation Director does spend some time with
them and also we do rely upon the training that returnees would provide.
MS. EGAN: Well, I have experienced, now the one out in Orient on the causeway, that is a different,
that is out of your jurisdiction so to speak.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: That is correct.
MS. EGAN: Right. I had experienced disrespect at the one here, Jack Shack's beach. I have seen
them sitting there reading, I have seen that the flag is not put up, I have seen that the flag is not taken
down properly and I have seen a lot of disrespect from some of those younger people. I think it is a
pretty nice job, there is certainly no reason their friends can't talk to them while they are working but
they sure don't need a book in front of their faces. That is not...
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Mrs. Egan.
MS. EGAN: ... what they get paid for.
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SUPERVISOR HORTON: Mrs. Egan. Those students, those youth are there to ensure that people that
are coming into the public facility with a sticker and that they are guided to the appropriate parking
spot and if there are not a tremendous amount of cars coming into the parking lot, I encourage them to
read over the course of summer vacation.
MS. EGAN: Well, they can do that on their lunch break but they are also there and get paid and I can
understand you saying the reading is good but they are also should be observant of what is going on in
the parking lot...
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Okay.
MS. EGAN: .... in case there is a problem with a child or a car. They have cell phones, they have a
cell phone available ....
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Mrs. Egan, are there other resolutions?
MS. EGAN: Yes, there are. Don't be rude.., many of them are rude.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Mrs. Egan? Just to keep the record straight, I have had several reports of
similar rudeness toward them.
MS. EGAN: Not by me. No way. I give them a wake up call.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: There is a particular finger you should not wave out of your car window to
children.
MS. EGAN: Pardon?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: You heard me, Mrs. Egan.
MS. EGAN: I did what?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: And I have experienced it as well.
MS. EGAn: What is that? Wave?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Do you have other resolutions you would like to continue on with?
MS. EGAN: No, I didn't hear what you said.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: I am saying that it is not polite to raise the middle finger to students who
are at the, or serving as beach attendants.
MS. EGAN: No, I, I, perhaps they misinterpreted. Maybe I was just showing them their IQ. 391. Yet
another change from the Human Resource Center.
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SUPERVISOR HORTON: Okay. 391.
MS. EGAN: And we have this, 392, Denise Heyse to position of planner trainee. What is that about?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: That is in relation to a woman that we have hired to come work at the
Planning Department.
MS. EGAN: Doing what?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: She will be starting July 5th. She will be working in a trainee position
processing site plan applications.
MS. EGAN: Mmmm, I don't know.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Okay.
MS. EGAN: Now, we have another student which is good, going up to the Town, to the Human
Resource Center and where is she from?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Southold.
MS. EGAN: From the Town of Southold?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Yes.
MS. EGAN: Umm. Okay, now, 395 I have addressed that over and over.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Mmmhmmm.
MS. EGAN: Appoint Lucas Schlager? Where is he from?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Southold.
MS. EGAN: Southold. Well, I guess Southold kids get, it is the parents fault that the other kids don't
make applications for these. Now, you know at the last Town Hall meeting I brought up the fact that
and your retort was that you are saving so much money closing the dump on Wednesday. I don't
happen to agree with you...
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Okay.
MS. EGAN: ...but that is fine. But we sent Mr. Bunderchuk, Bunchuck away at the last Town Hall
board meeting now we are sending him away again and I don't think that is necessary. I think that
money could be saved and all of that accrued and you can keep the dump open. That is how I see it.
Oh, now, the Justice Court girl, where is she from? 399?
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SUPERVISOR HORTON: Sheis fromthe Town of Southold as well. Sheis aGreenportHigh School
student.
MS. EGAN: Oh, good. Then we have a Greenport, she runs a Greenport school student. Now, these
401, they do need attendants, they need a tremendous amount of help at the police station.
Incidentally, the soap doesn't work in the public bathroom there. And mention it to several people
there and nothing...
SUPERVISOR HORTON: We will get that fixed.
MS. EGAN: .... has been done about it. There should be soap in there.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Agreed. You are right about that.
MS. EGAN: And at the last Town Hall meeting you said that you would try to do something in regard
to some form of privacy for people coming in there.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Yes.
MS. EGAN: Any progress there or does that take a while?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Well, that is something that would require some more space, so we have to
figure out, we have to determine how we are going to address that. Or at least, or at least the refitting
of some walls.
MS. EGAN: Yeah.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: But that is a real concern.
MS. EGAN: Now 403, I guess that is all about the union?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Yes.
MS. EGAN: And as I have said before and ....
SUPERVISOR HORTON: And 404, as well.
MS. EGAN: ... that I still feel that you have violated the Taft-Hartley Law and these people could sue
you. But that is their problem. I will keep on it though. Now, 405.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Yes, 405. This is requesting state funding through the New York State
Department of Environmental Protection for an initiative that we are working on with the Cornell
Cooperative Extension. It pertains to an overall, I believe, harbor management plan throughout the
Town of Southold.
MS. EGAn: Very important.
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SUPERVISOR HORTON: Yes.
MS. EGAN: Very important and as I keep telling you, you are getting these little tsunamis here. You
are all dreaming that it ain't gonna happen.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Are there other resolutions?
MS. EGAN: Oh, yes, there is. Now, the 406 ....
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Yes. This is a resolution adopting a report in regard to housing needs in the
Town of Southold that was conducted by Philip Bellz, our Special Projects Coordinator. We are
accepting and adopting the report.
MS. EGAN: And what is 408? Where is that, where is Traveler Street? I think I know....oh, I know
where Traveler Street is.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Right behind us. To the north of us.
MS. EGAN: That is a very, very dangerous area. Very dangerous with driving because the visibility
and all is very, very poor.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Okay.
MS. EGAN: Oh, what is 410 about?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: 410 is authorizing the Town Attorney to execute the order of settlement
consented to by the Town Assessors in the matter of Terranova versus the Town of Southold, it would
be a tax certiorari case that is being settled.
MS. EGAN: So I don't understand that. What basically are you doing?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Essentially when there is a discrepancy between a determination by the tax
Assessors and a property owner, the process exists that it can be challenged and legal challenges to
assessments with a municipality are called tax certiorari cases. This is a settlement of one of those
cases.
MS. EGAN: Good. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Thank you, Mrs. Egan. Yes?
JOHN NICKLES, JR.: Good afternoon, John Nickles, Jr. Just a little bit more clarification on 405, if
you would. Is there a more specific charge that is given here regarding Local Waterfront
Revitalization Plan ....
SUPERVISOR HORTON: It is a ....
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MR. NICKLES, JR.: ... it is a management of moorings, bulkheadings, waterfront ....
SUPERVISOR HORTON: What it is, it is a good question. The project has actually been underway
for some time now, we entered into an agreement with Cornell to actually map out using GIS and
overhead photographs, aerial photographs and GPS findings as to, in this day and you know, right now
this time, what the waterfront along all the creeks and the bay and the sound, what it looks like so that
we actually have that as a visual reference moving forward and it will help with Trustee matters. It
will also assist in regard to, you know, visually documenting or gauging various erosion issues.
MR. NICKLES, JR.: Essentially it is a visual inventory?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: A visual inventory, also with a database associated with it.
MR. NICKLES, JR: Thank you.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Thank you. Are there other questions from the floor regarding the
resolutions? (No response) Then Councilman Romanelli, lead us ofl} please.
#373
Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to the New
Suffolk Civic Association to use the following roads for its Annual Independence Day Parade in
New Suffolk on Monday~ July 4~ 2005 beginning at 10:30 AM on Old Harbor Road and Tuthill
Road, proceeding down New Suffolk Road to Fifth Street, then onto Main Street, turning onto Second
Street and ending at the Town Beach, provided they file with the Town Clerk a One Million Dollar
Certificate of Insurance naming the Town of Southold as an additional insured and notify Capt. Flatley
within ten (10) days of the approval of this resolution to coordinate traffic control.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#374
Moved by Councilman Edwards, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Joshua Y. Horton to execute New York State Department of Agriculture and
Markets Contract C800606 in connection with Agricultural and Farmland Protection Implementation
Grant in the amount of $1,200,000 for the term March 18, 2005 through March 31, 2007, all in
accordance with the approval of the Town Attorney.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: I just want to state again the Board's commitment to farmland and open
space preservation and the landmark steps that have been taken over the past couple of years as it
pertains to being awarded funding from the State and Federal government.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
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#375
Moved by Councilman Ross, seconded by Councilman Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Joshua Y. Horton to execute a Cooperative Agreement between the United States of
America Conunodit¥ Credit Corporation and the Town of Southold for the implementation of the
Federal Farm and Ranch Lands Protection Program FY 2005, subject to the approval of the Town
Attorney.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#376
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Ross, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the General Fund Part
Town 2005 budget as follows:
From:
Zoning Board of Appeals, P.S. $5,100
Regular Earnings
B.8010.1.100.100
To:
B.8010.4.500.400
Zoning Board of Appeals
Court Reporters
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
$5,100
Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
#377
Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Jason Marks to the
position of a part-time~ seasonal deckhand for the Fishers Island Ferry District~
effective June 1, 2005, until October 1, 2005 at a rate of $9.00 per hour.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#378
Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Christian Killam to the
position of a part thne~ seasonal deck hand for the Fishers Island Ferry District, effective June 1,
2005 until October 1, 2005, at a rate of $13.00 per hour.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#379
Moved by Councilman Edwards, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
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RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Joshua Y. Horton to execute the License Agreement between the Town of Southold
and the North Fork Audubon Society, Inc. for the use of office space at Inlet Pond Park for a period
of one year with an automatic renewal for a successive one year period, subject to the approval of the
Town Attorney.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#38O
Moved by Councilman Ross, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Joshua Y. Horton to execute the License Agreement between the Town of Southold
and The Long Island Wine Council for the use of office space at Inlet Pond Park for a period of one
year with an automatic renewal for a successive one year period, subject to the approval of the Town
Attorney.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#381
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED, that Resolution No. 333 of 2005 is hereby amended to read as follows:
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Joshua Y. Horton to execute the Westlaw Order Form between the Town of Southold
and West Group regarding a 36-month agreement which will provide a 50% discount on all print
subscriptions as well as provide the Town Attorney's Office with access to the Westlaw Zoning and
Land Use Library, subject to the approval of the Town Attorney.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#382
Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Councilman Ross, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the General Fund
Whole Town 2005 budget as follows:
To:
A.1680.4.400.353 8 MM Tape Drive Maintenance
From:
A. 1680.4.400.354 Decollator/Detacher Maintenance
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
$550.00
$550.00
Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
#383
Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Edwards, it was
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RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the General Fund
~Vhole Town 2005 budget as follows:
From:
Appropriations:
A.6772.4.600.200
To
Appropriations:
A.6772.4.600.300
Programs for the Aging
Miscellaneous
Senior Trips and Excursions
Programs for the Aging
Miscellaneous
Travel Reimbursement
$ 200.00
$ 200.00
#384
Moved by Councilman Edwards, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby releases the Performance Bond
No. 29807 issued bv the Nova Casualty Company in the amount of $47,275.00 for the Minor
Subdivision of "Paradise Isles" located on the north side of Island View lane, 235.18 feet west of
Bay Shore Road & on the south side of August Lane, Greenport, SCTM# 1000-63-6-46.2, as
recommended by the Southold Town Planning Board, Town Engineer, and the Superintendent of
Highways.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#385
Moved by Councilman Ross, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the Letter of Credit No.
050602 issued by the Suffolk County National Bank in the amount of $164,245.00 for the roads
and other hnprovements in the proposed subdivision "Oregon Landing I" located at the north side
of Oregon Road between Cox' Lane and Bridge Lane, Cutchogue, New York, SCTM # 1000-83-2-9.1
as recommended by the Southold Town Planning Board and the Town Engineer, all in accordance with
the approval of the Town Attorney.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#386
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the General Fund
Whole Town 2005 Budget as follows:
To
Revenues
A.2210.65
To
Appropriations
Services, Other Governments
"With You, Southold Can" Grant
$3,318
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A.1620.4.600.300 Buildings & Grounds, C. E.
"With You, Southold Can"
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
$3,318
Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
#387
Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Elizabeth Signorini as a
part-th-ne Home Health Aide at the Hmnan Resource Center, not to exceed seventeen and a half
(17.5) hours per week, at a salary of $10.25 per hour, effective June 22, 2005.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#388
Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints the following 2005
seasonal summer staff for the period of June 25 - September 5~ 2005 as follows:
STILLWATER LIFEGUARDS
Rose Allen
Gibson Campbell
Robert Conklin
Margot Connor
Conor Corridan
Jordan Doroski
Michael Erdman
Elissa Fondiller
Robert Harper
Ryan Kraemer
Jaimie MacDonald
Kathy MacDonald
Samuel Notaro
Lindsay Riemer
Brenna Shields
Lauren Smith
Andrew Strilzl
Caly Tillman
Jennifer Whyard
Sean Whyard
Laura Young
BEACH ATTENDANTS
John Boucher
Shannon Carrig
Kerri Erdman
Carlos Kalz
(2nd year)
(3rd year)
(3rd year)
(2nd year)
(2nd year)
(3rd year)
(1 st year)
(2nd year)
(6th year)
(2nd year)
(1 st year)
(4th year)
(2nd year)
(3rd year)
(4th year)
(1 st year)
(5th year)
(6th year)
(6th year)
(2nd year)
(4th year)
(1 st year)
(2nd year)
(1 st year)
(3rd year)
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Sara McGinness
Cynthia Murray
Maia Verostek
WATER SAFETY INSTRUCTORS
Kristina Amato
Emily Harper
BEACH MANAGERS
Arthur Quintana
William Seifert
PLAYGROUND INSTRUCTORS
Kara Erdman
Alanna Fogarty
LIFEGUARD TRAINER
Deborah Hennenlotter
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(2nd year)
(3rd year)
(lstyear)
(6thyear)
(2nd year)
(17th year)
(1 st year)
(1 st year)
(2nd year)
(4th year)
Note: Salaries will be determined once the CSEA contract is f'malized.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#389
Moved by Councilman Edwards, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was
RESOLVED that the Town of Southold hereby releases Bruce Hubert from his position as a
Fishers Island Constable~ effective June 23~ 2005 until such time as he is properly trained or a
replacement is found.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#39O
Moved by Councilman Ross, seconded by Justice Evans,
WHEREAS, the Town of Southold, after thorough consideration has hereby determined that the
signing of this Plan and Cost Sharing Agreement with the State of New York for the Acquisition of the
Pipe's Cove Coastal Wetlands is desirable and in the public interest; now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Joshua Y. Horton to execute a Plan and Cost Sharing Agreement with the State of
New York in connection with the Acquisition of the Pipe's Cove Coastal Wetlands, all in
accordance with the approval of the Town Attorney; and, be it further
RESOLVED that a certified copy of this resolution be prepared and sent to the New York State
Department of Environmental Conservation, 625 Broadway, Albany, New York 12233 together with
the executed Plan and Cost Sharing Agreement, and a copy sent to Heather Amster, Esq., NYS-DEC,
Division of Land & Forestry, Region 1, Bureau of Real Properly, Building 40, SUNY, Stony Brook,
NY 11790.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
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#391
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the resignation of
Valerie D. Maione~ Coolq effective June 15~ 2005.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#392
Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Ton Board of the Town of Southold hereby amends resolution #356~ adopted
at the June 7~ 2005 regular Town Board meeting to read as follows:
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby provisionally appoints Denise
Heyse to the position of Planner Trainee in the Southold Town Planning Department effective July 5~
2005 at a salary of $37,778.66 per annum.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#393
Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Alaina Gizzo as a part-
th-ne Student Intern I in the Southold Town Hmnan Resource Center to assist in the dining room
and kitchen for a period beginning June 29, 2005 at a salary to be determined with the ratification of
the CSEA contract.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#394
Moved by Councilman Edwards, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs the Town
Clerk to forward the Application for Transfer of Sanitary Flow Credits ~ed by Marie Beninati
to the Planning Board and Building Inspector to prepare official reports regarding the proposed
transfer pursuant to Section 87-7 of the Town Code.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#395
Moved by Councilman Ross, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the General Fund
Whole Town 2005 budget as follows:
From:
Appropriations:
A.6772.2.200.200 Programs for the Aging
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A.6772.4.100.500
A.6772.2.500.700
To:
Appropriations:
A.6772.2.100.100
A.6772.4.400.650
A.6772.4.100.125
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Office Equipment-Copier
Programs for the Aging, C.E.
Motor Vehicle Parts
& Supplies
Programs for the Aging
Other Equipment
Kitchen Equipment
$2,000.00
$3,000.00
$1,000.00
Programs for the Aging
Equipment-Adult Day
Care Furniture
Programs for the Aging, C.S.
Vehicle Maint & Repairs
Programs for the Aging, C.E.
Kitchen Supplies
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
$ 600.00
$3,100.00
$2,300.00
Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
#396
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Lucas Schlager as a
part-th-ne Student Intern I in the Historic Preservation Commission at a salary to be determined
upon ratification of the CSEA contract, effective July 5, 2005.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#397
Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to Solid Waste
Coordinator James Bunchuck to attend a Transfer Station Systems training and certification
course, by the Solid Waste Association of North America, in Philadelphia, PA from July 11 to July
14, 2005, with all necessary expenses for travel, food, and lodging to be a legal charge against the 2005
Solid Waste District Budget.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#398
Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Lauren Semon as
Intern I in the Town Clerk Records Management Department, at a salary to be determined with
the ratification of the CSEA contract, effective June 27, 2005.
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Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
#399
Moved by Councilman Edwards, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to Danielle
Carragher to serve an internship in the Southold Town Justice Court for the summer of 2005, at
no compensation.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#4OO
Moved by Councilman Ross, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Bruce Hubert as a
part-th-ne Fishers Island Bay Constable, and authorizes and directs Supervisor Joshua Y. Horton to
execute an agreement between the Town of Southold and Bruce Hubert, Fishers Island, to perform
services as Fishers Island Bay Constable for the purpose of patrolling the waters in and around the
Town of Southold at Fishers Island, at a compensation of $1250.00 each per annum, effective through
December 31, 2005, the Town to Pay all expenses for fuel required for the operation of Mr. Hubert's
boat while he is performing services for the Town, and up to $250.00 during the term of the agreement
for the servicing of the motor of Mr. Hubert, and shall not reimburse him for expenses for dock space,
all in accordance with the approval of the Town Attorney.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#4O 1
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs the Town
Clerk to advertise for Detention Attendants to perform Matron duties at the Southold Town Police
Department at the current hourly rate of pay.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: And #402 we enacted early in the meeting?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: That is correct, we are on to #403.
#4O3
Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby amends resolution No. 184 of
2005 as follows:
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RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby increases the salaries of the
following managerial and/or confidential employees effective on the date following receipt of the
appropriate decision from the New York State Public Employees Relations Board:
Current
Proposed
Tile/Name Salary Salary
Director of Human Services Karen McLaughlin 68,225.08 a 75,047.59 a
Town Planning Director Valerie Scopaz 60,819.50 b 66,901.45 b
Solid Waste Coordinator James Bunchuck 59,069.65 c 64,976.62 c
Administrative Assistant Linda Cooper 42,583.77 d 46,842.15 d
Administrative Assistant Barbara Rudder 42,583.77 d 46,842.15 d
Executive Assistant James McMahon 60,683.81 d, e 66,752.19 d, e
Secretarial Assistant Patricia Garsik 45,225.47 49,748.02
Chief Building Inspector Michael Verity 59,469.50 65,416.45
Network & Systems Administrator Lloyd Reisenberg 65,320.25 71,852.28
Principal Account Clerk Lynda Bohn 45,235.47 49,759.02
Senior Account Clerk Typist Janice Foglia 42,814.57 47,096.03
a -- plus 5% longevity
b -- plus 6% longevity
c -- plus 6% longevity
d plus 7% longevity
e plus DPW 11,041 stipend
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Just a matter of clarification, this is to adjust the salaries of employees that
work for the Town but are outside of the collective bargaining unit of the CSEA to reflect the contract
language of the CSEA, the recently settled contract.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#4O4
Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby increases
following seasonal positions effective January 1, 2005:
Base (2002)
Beach Attendant -- 1 st year hourly rate
Beach Attendant -- 2nd year hourly rate
Beach Attendant -- 3rd year hourly rate
Beach Attendant -- 4th year hourly rate
Beach Attendant -- 5th year hourly rate
Beach Attendant -- 6th year hourly rate
Beach Manager -- 1 st hourly rate
Beach Manager -- 2nd hourly rate
Lifeguard -- 1 st year hourly rate
Lifeguard -- 2nd year hourly rate
Lifeguard -- 3rd year hourly rate
Lifeguard -- 4th year hourly rate
8.56 9.42
8.71 9.58
8.86 9.75
9.01 9.91
9.16 10.08
9.31 10.24
12.31 13.54
14.31 15.74
11.06 12.17
11.31 12.44
11.56 12.72
11.81 12.99
the rates of the
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Lifeguard -- 5th year hourly rate
Lifeguard -- 6th year hourly rate
Lifeguard -- 7th year hourly rate
Lifeguard -- 8th year hourly rate
Lifeguard -- 9th year hourly rate
Lifeguard Trainer -- hourly rate
Playground Instructor -- hourly rate
School Crossing Guard -- 1st daily Rate
School Crossing Guard -- 2nd daily Rate
School Crossing Guard -- hourly rate
Laborer -- hourly rate
Police Officer -- hourly rate
Student Intern -- hourly rate
Traffic Control Officer -- hourly rate
Water Safety Instructor -- hourly rate
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
12.06 13.27
12.31 13.54
12.56 13.82
12.81 14.09
13.06 14.37
14.31 15.74
10.31 11.34
27.98 30.78
36.79 40.47
12.06 13.27
11.06 12.17
15.13 16.64
9.54 10.49
11.97 13.17
15.06 16.57
Councilman Ross,
Councilman Wickham,
#4O5
Moved by Councilman Edwards, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Joshua Y. Horton to sign a grant application to the New York State Environmental
Protection Fund - Local Waterfront Revitalization Program, Year 2005 - 2006 for a joint project
with the Comell Cooperative Extension.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: The only point in regard to this initiative and the grant application request
for funding that I was remiss in not mentioning when Mr. Nickles asked for clarification on that is that
this initiative will also assist the Town Board in identifying point source road and storm water runoff
points, so we can do a better job of mitigating the impacts of road runoff pollution.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#4O6
Moved by Councilman Ross, seconded by Councilman Romanelli,
WHEREAS, as part of the Town of Southold's ongoing comprehensive planning efforts, the Town
Board of the Town of Southold has reviewed and created Affordable Housing policies, as
recommended in the DGEIS adopted in 2003; and
WHEREAS the Town Board of the Town of Southold is committed to addressing the Affordable
Housing needs of the community, and has taken such actions as creation of the Housing Fund,
retention of the Special Projects Coordinator, amending the Affordable Housing District (AHD) to
mandate perpetual affordability, and creation of inclusionary zoning policies; and
WHEREAS the Town Board has requested that the Special Projects Coordinator review and document
current affordable housing needs in the Town of Southold and prepare a report of his findings; and
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WHEREAS the Town Board of the Town of Southold has received and reviewed the Housing Needs
Assessment dated June 2005 prepared by the Special Projects Coordinator; and
WHEREAS the document contains a thorough and current assessment of the status of housing and the
need for continuing and enhancing the affordable housing policies and programs; now therefore be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby adopts the Housing Needs
Assessment (June 2005) as part of the Town's comprehensive planning efforts and determines that
it will utilize the information in making decisions on continuing, enhancing and creating housing
opportunities within the Town of Southold.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#4O7
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby retains Cleary Consulting to
perform the SEQRA review on the proposed transfer of Sanitary Flow Credits to the Whitaker
House, LLC, tax parcel # 1000-61-1-5, at a cost of $1,000, cost to be paid by the applicant.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#4O8
Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby retains Given Associates to
prepare an appraisal on the property known as tax parcel# 1000-61-1-9.1 located on Traveler
Street in Southold.
TOWN ATTORNEY FINNEGAN: Can I just add to that that would be at a sum of $1,500.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#4O9
Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Joshua Y. Horton to sign a grant application to the New York State Environmental
Protection Fund - Local Waterfront Revitalization Program~ Year 2005 - 2006 for the Fishers
Island Building #98 Community Center project.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Also request that the Town Clerk forward a copy of this resolution and the
funding request to Senator LaValle and Assemblywoman Acampora.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#410
Moved by Councilman Edwards, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
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RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold authorizes and directs the Town
Attorney to execute the Order of Settlement consented to by the Assessors in the matter
Terranova v Town of Southold, et al.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
SUPERVISOR HORTON: That brings us to the conclusion of the resolutions. I now turn the floor
over to the public to address the Town Board on other town related items. Yes, Mr. Carlin.
MR. CARLIN: Good evening, ladies and gentleman of the Board. What I am going to say is, I would
appreciate it if you let me finish what I am saying and then if you care to make a rebuttal, you may do
so. Back in 19, wait a minute, that is the second one. I was down to Kaelin's lawnmower facility
today in Cutchogue to buy a new tractor. I was on my way home on Cox Lane, heading north, the light
was red. So when it became green, I drove out in the center but I couldn't make my left to go to
Mattituck because there was a lot of cars coming from Cox Lane going south. That is going to be an
area one of these days there's gonna be another accident there. And also when you enter an
intersection like that and you commit yourself to the intersection under the light, when it is green,
waiting to make a left, that that light changes red and cars are still coming, you are committed to
making your left. You cannot stand out there in the center of an intersection when the light is green in
the direction you are going. I spoke to you about this, Josh, seven months ago before I went into the
hospital. You thought it was a pretty good idea. I suggested instead of making a right into the landfill
when you dump off your disposals, you make a left and you go along the landfill. Go down towards
the super composting area and come out on Depot Lane, no houses there. You can either make a right
or a left. Have the state or the county change the caution light to a red light. By doing so, you will
eliminate a lot of traffic on Cox Lane. And you will have two traffic lights then which can control the
speed more in that area of cars. You thought it was a good idea. I still say it is a good idea. Because
the residents coming in from Depot Lane into the composting plant right now because you are loading
up Cox Lane and there is going to be another serious, going to be a serious accident there. I predict.
Now, talking about predictions, back in 19, this is my next issue, back in 1997 I was speaking to
someone in the Town, in this building here, I am not going to mention his name; and I suggested that
when the STAR program came out that after five years, the taxes and schools will be wiped out and we
will be back to where we started. Well, it has been eight years and we sure in heck have been back
where we started. Now I am going to make another predication, this one, I hope I am going to be here
for five years sometimes in the future to come back and to admit that I was wrong.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: That will never happen.
MR. CARLIN: I am going to, oh yes...
SUPERVISOR HORTON: You will never be wrong, Mr. Carlin.
MR. CARLIN: .... predict that five years from now, that oil will go to $90 or $100 a barrel. It started
to go down a little while back and now it is back to almost $60. See this is because we don't have
enough oil, we don't have enough refineries. But anyway, do you'se all know what a chain reaction
is? Or a domino effect, put it that way. Domino effect is, you take domino's line them up vertically,
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behind one another and you push the front one down backwards, they all want to go down. So when
oil goes to $90 a barrel or $1ee a barrel, there comes your change or domino effect. Gasoline will be
$4 or $5 a gallon. Fuel oil, heating oil will go up to $4 or $5 maybe a gallon. Diesel oil will go up.
Airlines will go up because they fly on diesel, on jet fuel. LIPA bills will go up because they rely on
generator plants for fuel. Your food would go up because they rely on transportation with 18 wheelers.
Now, if that happens which I hope it doesn't, you will see senior citizens leaving this town in a line
like it was an army line. (inaudible) Because you won't even have enough U-Hauls to haul their
furniture out. On account of the taxes the way they are going in this town. I don't know if you realize
it or not but travel in the side streets in Southold Town and you will see a lot of signs up for sale on
houses. Check your local newspaper, you will see real estate in there quite a bit. In fact, on Long
Island, check you Sunday Newsday, they have a whole issue on real estate houses. Over 75 pages of
it, of people moving out. And you know something? It isn't only the senior citizens, if that happen
can't afford to live here, some of them can't afford to live here now, it would be also the young people
who are trying to pay a mortgage ofl~ trying to put food on the table, trying to send their little children
to school. And then you add the school taxes the way they are going, forget it. So that is my
prediction, if oil goes to $90 to $1ee a barrel. And it could happen. It is already $60 now or almost.
A dollar away. I hope I am wrong, if I live long enough to come back to say that I made the wrong
prediction here. But I did make the right one on the '97 one.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Thank you, Mr. Carlin.
MR. CARLIN: Way over paying back what STAR gave us. Did you know something also, that
Albany, I don't think the seniors realize this, that Albany was going to go and increase the STAR
program to $200 more providing the schools kept their budget within 3 1/2 percent. But naturally they
couldn't do it. Never happen. So, what are your comments or rebuttals about what I have to say now,
especially about the Cox Lane one, Josh?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: I don't have a rebuttal, Mr. Carlin.
MR. CARLIN: You did tell me, though, seven months ago you thought it was a good idea, you were
going to look into it.
COUNCILMAN ROSS: You are not supposed to enter an intersection until you can pass clearly
through it, Mr. Carlin.
MR. CARLIN: Yeah, but once you are committed into an intersection, you have got to make your left
turn. You cannot stay there. Because the traffic is coming the other way.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Mr. Carlin, one, the property that is adjacent to the compost facility-that is
between Depot Lane and the compost facility, is privately owned property. It is possible, perhaps at
some point in the future, at a future date, that an easement could be negotiated there. But that is not
something that anybody sitting here could guarantee. I think as it pertains to the light at Cox Lane, the
County has agreed to make that, I am trying to think how many phases, at least a three phase light; so
you actually have a turn arrow. So in the event you were coming out of there, either heading north
bound or southbound you wanted to go cross Route 48 to choose your, to make your heading east or
west, there would be a turn arrow to facilitate a single flow of traffic in that direction. The County has
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agreed to do that and as it pertains to the foreseeable future, I think that is something that we can
achieve and will provide that safety relief that you are seeking.
MR. CARLIN: How about if you are heading north like I was, will there be a turn arrow to go...
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Yes, that is my point. North or south bound off of Cox or out onto Route
48, the County has agreed to facilitate that.
MR. CARLIN: Why are you saying that the composting, you are trying to tell me that the composting
plant is not Town property?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: No. There is the compost facility which is 17 acres and then abutting that,
immediately to the west is not Depot Lane, the property immediately to the west adjacent to the
compost facility, is privately owned. It is, I believe 20 some odd acres, 30 some odd acres.
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: On the west side.
MR. CARLIN: No, I am not talking about the west side. I am talking about the east side of Cox Lane
going north. There is a...
SUPERVISOR HORTON: You are talking about Depot?
MR. CARLIN: Yeah, you can enter there and go down through the composting ....
SUPERVISOR HORTON: No, if you enter off of Depot Lane, if you make a right when you are
northbound, you make a right onto that property, that is not Town property. You actually have to drive
across privately owned property before you reach the compost facility.
MR. CARLIN: Then what are you using it for then...
SUPERVISOR HORTON: We don't use it.
MR. CARLIN: Well, it is still there. Anybody can drive in. I can drive in any time I want.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: No. There was at one point a construction easement but the property line,
that runs between the Town owned compost facility and the property immediately to the west, there is
a fence there.
MR. CARLIN: Well, you are putting too much traffic though on Cox Lane. Even if there is a direct
arrow light there. One of these days you are going to see a real serious accident there again. Now one
more thing. Every time I read the paper about the police reports that there is a lot of DWI's going
on...
SUPERVISOR HORTON: It is a social dilemma in the United States of America as a whole, I would
say.
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MR. CARLIN: I know but let's try not to have it here because what somebody says jump overboard,
we don't have to jump overboard. But anyway, you know, years ago, I don't know if you all notice but
years ago back in I think it was the 80's, you know actually we had State Police stationed here in
Southold. Their barracks were right across the street from the American Legion hall. There was two
of them here. And when they were here, they really controlled what was going on here. In fact, Camp
Malloy across from my house used to have hedges, high hedges, they used to park in there and hide
and catch them speeding. But somehow or another, they lasted about six months to a year, I don't
know what happened between the police and the town ....
SUPERVISOR HORTON: It is called budgets, Mr. Carlin.
MR. CARLIN: Well, it was more than that. They was giving out too many tickets. And they were
pulled out. I don't know why we still can't have State Police stationed out here. We pay state taxes.
Why aren't we allowed to, entitled to having...
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Mr. Carlin, they simply do not have State Police that are adequately spread
throughout Long Island. State budgets are cut and you know, this is a window into what you are
talking about. Because of the cost of healthcare and pension fund contributions that are placed upon
municipalities at the local level all the way up to the state, budgets are being cut. Make no mistake
about it. Budgets are being cut and it starts up top. As it pertains to the State Police budget, that
budget has been slashed, year after year after year for the past four or five years. As a result, fewer
police, they are actually downsizing the size of the New York State Police force, the State troopers
through attrition. People are retiring and people are not being hired and therefore we have fewer State
Police on Long Island as a whole. In fact, it is a very good argument to be made that perhaps the
money that was spent on building a new police barracks for the New York State troopers would have
been better spent on hiring a few more New York State Police officers to serve at the east end of Long
Island. However, you say that there are quite a few DWI's in the reports and I would maintain that is
because the Southold Town police are doing their job. It is true....excuse me, Mr. Carlin. In the 70's
and the 80's, true enough-you didn't see a whole lot of DWI's being reported. It is a different story
now a days.
MR. CARLIN: I am not saying they are not doing their job. But we are paying our state taxes and we
should have state protection, also, like everybody else. Now how come if it is such a shortage, they
put a barracks in Riverhead now?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: They put the barracks in Southampton. They built the new barracks in
Southampton.
MR. CARLIN: Why...
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Mr. Carlin. Mr. Carlin, I will tell you one more time, Mr. Carlin. The state
has slashed the budget as it pertains to the State Trooper funding. Therefore there are fewer state
troopers available. Listen, we have made requests to augment the Southold Town Police Department,
some of our efforts over the course of the summer months. The cops just aren't around. They just
don't, you know, the State just doesn't have them. There is not the supply.
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MR. CARLIN: Well, at least...
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SUPERVISOR HORTON: So I think ....
MR. CARLIN: Well, they could patrol more out here at least.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: I think the thing to do...
MR. CARLIN: I don't see a trooper go by my house maybe if I see one three times a week, I am
happy to see one.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Well, Mr. Carlin, it is really a jurisdiction that the best I can do is ask them
to come out. Maybe you can talk to Assemblywoman Acampora or Senatora LaValle and see if you
can get some more assistance out here. I would be happy to be on that conference call with you.
MR. CARLIN: Well, like I said, people are paying state taxes, they should have some kind of access
to the, as well as everybody else in the state.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Okay.
MR. CARLIN: That is the way it is but they should be out here more. But there is too many DWI's
going on in this town and I realize and I am not knocking the police department, they are doing their
job, hard to be around every place but I see a lot of things going on that I think could be checked out
better. But anyway, this is all I am going to say tonight. But I am not finished, I have got a hell of a
program to talk about the rest of this year and I got agenda that I will be here most every Board
meeting.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: We look forward to it.
MR. CARLIN: And about a month before you are going to leave, I got something special I am going
to say.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: I might have something special to say also.
MR. CARLIN: You might like it. No, no, it is not going to be knocking down (inaudible), it is going
to be something nice.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Likewise, Mr. Carlin. Thank you. Would anybody else care to address the
Town Board? Mr. Webb.
TED WEBB: Mr. Supervisor, members of the Town Board. Thank you for the opportunity to speak to
you this evening. My name is Ted Webb, I am a homeowner in the village of Orient and I am here this
evening as the president of the Oyster Ponds Historical Society and I speak on behalf of the Board of
Directors. I would like to comment on the memo of May 23rd of this year to Mr. Horton and the Town
Board from your Town Planning Board regarding the rezoning recommendations of a property at the
head of Village Lane. I also went up there this afternoon and took a couple of pictures of the property,
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I am sure you are all familiar with the hamlet of Orient but in case you are not familiar with this
specific properly, I brought these photographs that I will share with you. First of all, I would like to
take just a moment to quote from a letter that I wrote to the Planning Board on April 4th of this year.
"The Ehrlich properly sits at the head of Village Lane, the acknowledged entrance to the historic
hamlet of Orient. The house on this properly has always been a home in the hamlet, occupied until
purchased by its current owner, by families throughout its long existence. That it might be considered
for any use other than a home would be a step back in Southold Town's efforts to preserve our unique
history for present and future generations. There are many reasons to oppose this site for commercial
use; among them, the above mentioned entrance to an historic hamlet, the incursion of an uncontrolled
commercial operation, closeness to a local house of worship and a public school, creation of dangerous
additional intersection with egress onto a busy highway and potential disruption of the peace and quiet
that the immediate neighborhood has enjoyed for hundreds of years. The most appropriate use,
therefore, would be for this properly to continue as a single family dwelling. However, we do not
believe the community would oppose a commercial use that would protect the immediate
neighborhood, retaining the characteristics for which the properly was intended. Examples of
acceptable use might include a physicians or other professional office. A retail operation, with little or
no control over that definition is not appropriate." As I said, that was sent to the Planning Board on
April 4th. And now I would like to reference the memo that was sent to you by the Planning Board and
quote from it, "The current presence of business zoned properties along State Route 25 west of Village
Lane has the potential to detract from the designated hamlet center. The existence of this satellite
business area could result in the introduction of certain types of businesses that could end up being
inconsistent with the desired character of Orient hamlet. Therefore, the Planning staff recommends
that the following properties be rezoned to RO, residential office (and then it lists four existing
properties) such a rezoning would allow existing businesses to continue as non-conforming uses as per
sections 100, 240 and 246; but would prevent the introduction of more intensive business uses in that
specific location." When I look at that recommendation to you and read my own letter of April 4th, it
seems to me that the Board now has the opportunity to resolve a long simmering issue in our
community. And hopefully create what could be construed as a win-win for everyone, certainly for the
affected business owners, certainly for the affected residents and for the community as a whole. So we
hope that you will pay attention to this issue and act on it promptly. Thank you very much.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Thank you, Mr. Webb. We will certainly take a look at it at our next Town
Board work session in two weeks, in the meantime, take the opportunity to review the request with the
Town Attorney's office to determine what the appropriate steps would be and what the pros and cons
of that action would be. So at the next Town Board work session, the Board can have a rationale, in-
depth discussion about the matter.
MR. WEBB: Thank you.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Thank you. Mrs. Egan.
MS. EGAN: Yes, good evening again, Town Board. Joan Egan, East Marion. Mr. Carlin, call
Senator Hillary Clinton, she will get something done for you, she did it for me.
MR. CARLIN: How do you know I didn't do it already?
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MR. CARLIN: How did you know I didn't do it already?
MS. EGAN: Well, you didn't say you did. If you don't do it, I will. You know I called ....
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Mrs. Egan, if you would address your comments to the Board.
MS. EGAN: Now, again, I have to tell you that Supervisor Harris is not doing the job he should, the
street signs are not up properly on 25, 48. Yup, very dangerous, witnessed an accident up there
coming up Depot Lane. It was a horrible situation. Now, when did we decide to do these sidewalks,
like in front of the police station?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: This is all the work that is being done between...
MS. EGAN: We are turning it into a...
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Excuse me, you asked a question and I am going to respond to it. All the
work that is being done on the south road, the Main Road, Route 25 between Sixth Street and western
Mattituck is a New York State project that has been planned since the early to mid 90's. and the
sidewalks and drainage and paving are all a part of that. It is about an 18 month project that we are
about halfway into at this point.
MS. EGAN: Well, again I told you also and I suppose there is nothing we can do about it, I guess it is
the state's way of doing it, the DOT or whoever, merchants, you are getting a lot of people going out
of business in Southold...
SUPERVISOR HORTON: There is no easy way to pave roads, Mrs. Egan.
MS. EGAN: .... and a lot of people are going out of business in Greenport because of all this
construction and it will happen again because Suffolk Water did not put those pipes low enough and it
will break up, water will come up and it will all be done again and a lot of people, seniors also are
losing. Do you have any as Southold people since we did give Greenport that $100,000 that we can
ever get our theater back in Greenport?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: I believe, you are talking about the movie theater?
MS. EGAN: Yeah.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: I believe that is scheduled to open by July 4th. The gentleman who owns
that, most recently acquired it, is doing an extensive renovation...
MS. EGAN: Yeah, I know but...
SUPERVISOR HORTON: ... inside and I believe they are scheduled to open, don't quote me on the
th
date, I overheard a discussion that they were trying to open before July 4 weekend but whether they
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open before July 4th weekend or Labor Day weekend the important message here is that the private
sector has purchased that and is restoring it with their money and they are going to open it as a
business and we will all be able to go to the movies when it is complete.
MS. EGAN: And I...
SUPERVISOR HORTON: We might even go together.
MS. EGAN: Excuse me, my turn. I heard a better rumor from a better source than you get, darling.
And it ain't ever going to be open again.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Okay.
MS. EGAN: As a movie theater.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Well, I know the owner, so I don't know what better source you can have.
MS. EGAN: Oh, I have better ones than you, dear. You know how women are. Now, oh, now, on
these yard sales, tag sales, garage sales, naturally you have to get the permit or you should get the
permit or take the chance. Now, are they still checking those out? Are they still foolishly sending
what police forces we do have to check all those yard sales?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: I have to be honest with you, Mrs. Egan, I do not....the chief...
MS. EGAN: Because we only have that one code enforcer. Go ahead.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: The Chief of police does not send the police department out to check the
permits of yard sale havers.
MS. EGAN: He had been. I think Mr. Carlin...
MR. CARLIN: (FROM AUDIENCE) (inaudible) sent the detectives to my house Saturday morning
when all the traffic was in town.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Okay. Mr. Carlin, excuse me, somebody is at...
MR. CARLIN: (FROM AUDIENCE) I am sorry but I just can't sit here and listen...
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Okay.
MS. EGAN: Okay. Well, (inaudible)...
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Yes, we will debate yard sales another time.
MS. EGAN: I will conclude, I will conclude nicely but you all notice these handsome people from
Orient because they have a special issue. But I will tell you all of this up there and I hope you are
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listening to me and I hope you don't sleep too well because of what I say, people aren't coming here
because they are d..i..s..u..s..t..e..d with all of you. Thank you.
FREDDIE WACHSBERGER: Freddie Wachsberger, Vice-President of Southold Citizens for Safe
Roads. I wanted to address the same issue as Mr. Webb did. I realize and I appreciate it that you will
be taking it up in two weeks but I wanted to talk about it from the point of view of safety on the road.
Because I assume that most of you know what it looks like there but the fact that Youngs Road and
Village Lane do not meet Route 48 at exactly the same point but a couple of yards apart and that each
of them is bisected as they enter the Main Road, one by the Civil War monument and the other by the
buttonwood tree, which makes it already a slightly precarious corner and it is a corner where school
children walk to school and where people bike and there is a lot of foot traffic. And in the summer it is
particularly busy because Youngs Road of course, leads to the public beach and Village Lane
obviously to the country store, the post office and so forth. And at times of heavy ferry traffic when
people are racing to the ferry they get very impatient with people who are pausing to turn into either of
those roads and tend to try to pass on the incoming lane, which really we have already identified as a
very difficult and dangerous situation and I think probably people, there are people who live very close
to the intersection who have actually seen very near misses of serious accidents. The reason why we
have been concerned about the property on the corner from a safety point of view is that the present
zoning, as you probably know it was rezoned only about 20 years ago and we feel that that rezoning
was very ill considered rezoning, considering even though the ferry traffic wasn't as heavy then as it is
now, it was already an issue. What makes it particularly dangerous is the possibility of a business
going in there which would involve a lot of pull-ins and pull-outs, I mean from a safety point of view
that is the biggest, our biggest concern or even in the worst case scenario the kind of business where
somebody might just pause and leave the car on the road to run in and get a paper or ice cream cone or
something like that which would exaggerate the already difficult visibility of that corner. So, of
course, like many of my colleagues in Orient, we were urging by letters and so forth to you and the
Planning Board, a rezoning to residential area, as it was until about 20 years ago. But I have just read
the recommendations that were made by the Planning Board and obviously they are extremely well
considered and so we would really like to support this recommendation, from the point of view that
obviously in the residential office would minimize the pull-ins and pull-outs or casual stopping that
might be involved in many of the other kinds of businesses that could go in there and of course it
makes eminent sense to rezone that whole little stretch, given that it would not impact existing
businesses which would be allowed to continue as non-conforming uses. So from the point of view
from the traffic as well as the issues that Mr. Webb addressed, I would urge you to consider very
seriously these Planning Board recommendations and if it were possible to be at your work session to
make any input or if you would like any input at that work session, if you would let us know we would
be very grateful.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Actually, at the work session it will be the discussion among the Board and
you know, it goes through a Code Committee meeting, that is obviously an opportunity where input
from other interested parties would be best received as far as working through the matter. And then
again, obviously, at public hearings.
MS. WACHSBERGER: Great. Thanks.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Thanks. Mr. Skabry.
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TOM SKABRY: How you doing, Tom Skabry. I commute quite frequently on the North Fork and I
would just like to address the question on the intersection of Cox Lane and 48. Is there going to be any
modification to the traffic signal going east? Correction, going west? Like any kind of sun blinder
that would go behind the light itself, particularly in the fall months when the sun is going down, it
creates a blinding effect. We can't see the lights.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: I will take that up with the county.
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: That is a hard light to see.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: That is actually the first time I had heard that, that point raised. But I will
make sure that gets brought to the Suffolk County Department of Public Works attention tomorrow.
MR. SKABRY: Alright. And the other thing, too, is maybe if they can increase, I am sure it is all
done electronically, if they can increase the time that the yellow light is on?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: That will be, actually the length on all three, red, yellow and green are
going to be extended.
MR. SKABRY: Oh, good. That will make it easier for traveling north and south.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Absolutely.
MR. SKABRY: And then as far as the entrance to the landfill, has the Town taken into consideration
maybe doing an eminent domain or a right of way to go from Depot Lane into the compost facility and
thus, if that could actually possibly happen in the future maybe put a traffic light on the other
dangerous intersection of Depot Lane and 48, as well as an even more dangerous situation of Depot
Lane and 25?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: The issue of actually having traffic enter off of Depot into the facility has
been considered by several engineers and determined to be dangerous as per the operations that take
place in the compost facility. The thought of actually bringing several thousand cars over the course of
a weekend at a perpendicular angle to the compost facility through there, while you have grinders and
heavy equipment and you know, large payloaders and so forth in addition to commercial traffic, large
amounts of commercial traffic that are transient, in and out, highway vehicles that are bringing loads to
the facility, makes for a very difficult traffic pattern, which is why we are trying to isolate traffic as
opposed to integrate traffic into heavy equipment areas. It is a good thought, though. Thank you.
MR. SKABRY: Alright. With all the work that is going on on 25, did the Town enter into a
discussion or is it too late to possibly put a traffic signal on 25 and Depot Lane, being so close to the
school administrative building on that intersection, as well as for people on Depot Lane trying to go
east on 25?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: The, that hasn't been broached but I can tell you that the discussions with
the state in regards to traffic lights is they are very reluctant to place traffic lights along 25, particularly
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Depot has been brought up, particularly as Depot is so close to the traffic light at New Suffolk, you
know, that would be a very close placement of traffic control signals.
MR. SKABRY: I thought maybe they could time it ....
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Perhaps they could but they have been reluctant to entertain it.
MR. SKABRY: Yeah, because that is pretty dangerous there and it would be nice if maybe we could
push the state into putting one there because you see accidents there all the time. That is all.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Thank you. Yes, Mr. Carlin.
MR. CARLIN: As far as going into, I have suggested before from Depot Lane, very simple, get rid of
the landfill, the compost plant. We don't need that plant there to start with.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Okay.
MR. CARLIN: We could save $4,000,000 on it. Never should have been there, as far as I am
concerned, it doesn't need to be there. You solve that, you get rid of that and then you can bring your
cars in there. Should never have been there.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Thank you. Would anyone else care to address the Board? Yes.
MR. CARLIN: $4,000,000 for that place and it doesn't show much of a profit, either.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Okay.
MR. CARLIN: You can go to Smithtown and get all of the compost you want for nothing.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Yes, please, you have the floor.
ED BLESCH: Ed Blesch from Orient. Ed Webb told you that the Oysterponds Historical Association
would like a change of zoning in the property that you are seeing pictures of and Freddie Wachsberger
that the Southold Citizens for Safe Roads would like that. I am not an officer in the organization but I
do know that Ann Hopkins, who is the president of the Orient Association, her group, is also against it.
And they have strongly recommended that it not be used for a retail store. The town's own
stakeholders recommended in their recent report to the Board that all commercial development be
around the present business centers of the town, which in our case is the post office and the general
store that Linton Duell runs and a little gift shop here or there and not on the outskirts affecting other
neighborhoods. So I think that should be part of your consideration as well.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Okay.
MR. BLESCH: And to add to what Freddie said about the safety of the intersection, another
contributing factor to the danger and I have seen cars actually turn over on that corner because they go
around the comer so fast, Tim and I called the police one night at 2:00 in the morning because
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somebody came around the corner so fast they turned over. The corner is not a 90 degree angle, it is a
curve, so that gives people the idea that they can go faster because it is a gradual curve rather than a
sharp turn and it is extremely dangerous without having (inaudible).
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Thank you. Just to talk process right now, this concept as it pertains to a
specific area has been brought to the Board's attention and prior to the Board taking any specific
action, what we are doing, what we intend to do is comprehensively address these issues because there
are issues such as this throughout town in all of the hamlets and we, we are actually hoping tonight to
adopt the final report of the stakeholders however, those were not to us in time for this evenings
meeting, but once we have those which will definitely be by the next Town Board meeting, we will
adopt those stakeholder reports as final reports and then start implementing the recommendations that
have come out of each of those hamlet groups. So that is a very defined process but we feel it is
important to take those recommendations and address them comprehensively and I believe that is one
of the recommendations from the Orient group. So it will be looked at as part of the comprehensive
planning of the town as opposed to you know, a spot or you know, a one piece by piece approach,
which we think is very important to cement the Town's comprehensive planning. So, thank you. Are
there other comments for the Town Board? (No response) Motion to adjourn?
Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Supervisor Horton, it was
RESOLVED that this meeting of the Southold Town Board be and hereby is declared adjourned.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Thank you for a good meeting and thank you for participating.
Elizabeth A. Neville
Southold Town Clerk