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MEMBERS
Robert '~. Gillispie, Jr., Chairman
Robert Bergen
Charles Grcgonis, Jr.
S¢r!3¢ Doyen, Jr.
Fred Halse, Jr.
Southold Town Board of Appeals
SOUTHOLD, L. I., N. Y.
Telephone SO 5-~660
MINUTES
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF APPEALS
June 16, 1966
A regular meeting of the'Southold Town Board.of Appeals
was held at'7:30 P.M., Thursday, June 16, 1966, at the Town
Office, Main Road, Southold, New ~rk.
There were present: Messrs: Robert'W. Gillispie, Jr.
Chairman; Robert Bergen, Charles Grigonis~ Jr.~ Serge Doyen~ Jr.,
Fred Hulse, Jr.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 849 - 7:30 P.M,~.D.S. To), Upon
application of Baker and Fickeissen, Southold, New York, a/c
Ilie Wacs, Sound Drive, Greenport, New York, for a variance in
accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 307,
for permission to reduce the side yard requirement. Location
of property: Lot no. 105 in Eastern Shores at Greenport, Section
IV, Greenport, New York. Fee paid $5.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading application for.
a variance legal notice of hearing, affidavit attesting to its
publication in the official newspaper, and notice to the applicant.
The Chairman read the following letter:
"To Whom it may'Concern, Please be advised that Ir the
undersigned~ owner of lot 106 adjacent to the lot owned by Itie
Wacs at Eastern Shores, Greenport, have no objection to Mr. Wacs
havin~ his building line 7 feet instead of the legal 10 feet from
my property line.
Yours Truly~ /s/ Werner Rosenburg,/s/ Diana Rosenberg °
$outhold Town Board of Appeals -2- June 16, 1966
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to
speak for this application?
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Are there any questions in connection with
this application?
CThere was no response.)
THE ~: Is there anyone present who wishes to
be heard in opposition to this application?
MR. JAMES OLSEN, Olsen Realty,Inc.: I do. I feel this
way about it. Once you start~iving variances on a filed map
there is no end to it. I am involved with two subdivisions
and our lots are layout in such a way that you don~t need
any'variance.
THE CHAIRMAN: You are objectimg on genera-t~principles. You
are objecting to this becuase you heard it read?
MR. OLSEN: I read it in the newspaper, that's why I'am
here. One a map is layoute~~ it should sta~' that way. You
are liable to get,variances all over the place.
THE'CHAIRMAN: This lot in question is 440 feet deep.
MR. OLSEN: Must be able to put a house on that the other
way.
T~E CHAIRMAN: The house is running the same direction as
the lot. The variance is requested on this side here~ next to
the Rosenbergs.
MR. ~OLSEN: My objection is only one thing. If you give
a variance in one case there will be no end to it.
THE CHAIRMAN: I think we will have to postpone decision
on this until Fir. Fickeissen gets here.
MR. OLSEN: I am objecting because of the principle.
don~t think there should be any'variances once a map is
approved. ~-
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anythi~ further on this application?
~There was no response.)
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On motion by Mr. Hulse, seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVEDthat decision be postponed onAppeal No. 849,
upon application of Baker & Fickeissen,-Southold, New York,
a/c Ilie Wacs, Sou~Drive, Greenport~ New York.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr.
Hulse, ~ir. Grigonis, Fir.- Doyen.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 850 - 7:45 P.M.(E.D.S~To), Upon
application of Martin Sidor, Peconic Bay Blvd., Laurel, New York,
for a variance in accordance with the Zoning'Ordinance, Article
III, Section 307, f~perm~ss~on to reduce the side yard require-
ment. Location ofproperty: south side Peconic Bay Blvd., Laurel,
New York, bounded north by Peconic Bay Blvd., east by'BarneY
Sidor, south by Peconic Bay, west by'M. Weglicki, fee paid $5.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing~eading the application for
a variance, legal n~ice of hea~ing, affidavit attesting to its
publication in the official newspaper¢ and notice to the applicant.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application?
(There was no response.)
The Board viewed the Building Permit application attached
to the application to the Board of Appeals.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present whowishes to speak
against this application?
CThere was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Weneed more information than what is submitted
on the application, therefore we will have to postpone decision
on this application.
On motion by Mr. Hulse, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED that decision be postponed on Appeals no 850, upon
application of MartinSidor, Peconic Bay Blvd., Laurel, Ne w York.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gill~pie, Bergen, Hulse,
Doyen, Grigonis.
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June 16, 1966
PUBLIC HEA~ING:' Appeal No. 851- 8:00 P.'M~'(E.D.S,T,'), Upon
application of Assunta and Peter Giordano, Gin Lane, Southold,~
New York,.~ for a special exception in accordance with the Zoning
Ordinance, Article III, Section 300, Subsection ~(a), for per-
mission to convert a one family dwelling into a two family
dwelling. _ Location of property: Lots no. eight ~(8) and nine
C9) in Bay Haven at Southold~ Southold, New York. Fee pa~$5.00.
The Chairman opened the hea~gby reading application for
a special exception,, legal notice of hearing, affidavit attesting
to its publication in the official newspaper~, and notice to the
applicant.
THE CHAIRMAN: The application is accompanSed by a
petition signed by the lotsowners in the area, stating they
have no objection to a two family dmelling. There are 23
signatures on the apetition.
At this time is there anyone present who wishes to speak
in favor of this application?
MR. GIORDANO: All I can do is repeat myself. ~hen I
bought this property in 1960, I'~had no idea I would make this
request, however-we hm~e no alternative. We would like to come
out to Southold to live year around.
THE CHAIRMAN: Are you just a summer res~ent now ?
MR. GIORDANO: We come out'here almost every.we~k end
in the winter. I have -five children~ and seven grandchildren.
Ordinarilywe could have 15 to 20 peoplehere if"the situation
was different. If this application is granted we would have
fewer people here. If anyone told me in 1960 that this would
happen, that I wouldhave to come before you gentlemen and
praticallybeg, Iwould say-theF<~were out of their mind. We
are in no position to do anything e]se.
THE CHAIRMAN: How would this variance help you?
MR. GIORDANO: It wouldhelp me physically._ I sell juu~nile
furniture direct to the home. I have just been told they are
goingto take me out of'Nassau County and put me in SUffolk:County.
The demonstation proceedure-X)r~( takes 2½ to-3 hours. Appointments
are made for after dinner'which is usually around 8:00, and it's
about 11:00 when I am finished.
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June 16, 1966
THE CHAIRMAN: This juvenile furniture, what does it
consist of.
MR. GIQRDANO: We sell cribs, high chairs, playpens~ carriages,
and strollers. It's a package deal. We write to wom~ who are
expecting babies. It is my job to call these people and make an
appointment. I represent the ~ company. .I have all o~
Suffolk County mysetf. I was in Riverhead two weeks ago. The
chances are you can't get-anyone to listen to you until between
7:30 P.M. and 8:00 P.M. It would be easier for me to drive
15 miles than 60 miles to my other'home.
THE CHAIRMA~_: Would it be better for you to have one
home instead of two. Would you still need this variance then?
MR. GIORDANO: If this request is not granted~we m~y. be
forced to do that. I have a young boy of 18 and I can't just
disrupt him immediately.
THE CHA~: You have sufficient area for a two fanuly
dwelling as far'as the lot size goes. You don't have sufficient
area for occupancy. I don't see the dimensions of the house
on the application.
MR. GIORDANQ: It's over 12~00~ square feet.
THE CHAIRMAN: You need 850 square feetof'living area for
one family~ so for a two family dweliing you would need 17,000
square feet of living area.
MR. HULSE:' Actually this house is situated on Lot-no . 8.
It's conceiveable that you could sell lot no. 9.
THE ~HAIRRAN: We could put a condition of this, if it is
passed, that lot no. 9 would not be sold,
MRSj GIORDANO: We do not want to sell lot 9. This could
be-a condition, that we would not sell this lot.
THE CHAIRMAN: If this was granted it would have to be on
a temporary'basis. Would you occupy-the home part time?
MRS. GIORDANO: There will just be the two of us there. M y
so~ will be going to college. We will have fewer people in the
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June 15, 1966
THE CHA~.: When do you expect this situation will be
cleared up so that you wouldn't need the two family dwelling?
MRS. GIORDANO~ A year'or two years. We will either have
to sell the house or try to make it. Perhaps it-will be within
a year. I don't know what are circumstances are going to be.
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THE CHAIRMAN: This is an/usual hardship due to physical
difficulty and that iS one of the reasons why we have a Boa~d
of Appeals. We coUld not grant it on financial hardship because
everyone is believed t6 have some financial hardship.
Is there anything else to be said for this application?
~There was no response.)
THE~CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
MRS. FLORENCE JOHNSON: Isn't'this a major improvement in
the interior of the house?
THE CHAIRMAN: We are only concerned with the interior of
the house when it is going to be changed to be a two family
dwelling.
MRS. FLORENCE JOHNSON: Doesn't it require a building
permit?
THE CHAI~4AN: No.
MRS. FLORENCE JOHNSON: I don't underst~.d whythis extra'
lot is required.
TME CHAIRMAN: The house is on lot no. 8. They also own lot
number 9. TheZoning Ordinance was recently changed to permit
this Board~ in certain cases, to grant-permission forltwo family
dwelling provided there was 25,000 square feet of land available
in the~roperty concerned. That is whywe would putt he condition
that lot number 9 could not be sold. If it was this permission
would be cancelled.
MRS.' JOHNSON: The part they.wantto use for living quarters
is next to another house, no on the side of the additional lot.
THE CHAIRMAN: That'doesn't make any difference. They have
the total area.
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Jume 16, 1966
MRS.' FLORENCE JOHNSON: If this petition is granted how
would this affect the taxes of the houses in the area?
THE CHAIRMAN: You would have to ask the assessors about that.
MRS. FLORENCE JOHNSON: How would'this house be sold?
THE CHAIRMAN: The permissionwould expire when they sold
it. It-could not be sold as a two family house. It would be
required in this'case because of the unusual nature of the
application and the house is a little small for a two family
dwelling. This right would cease when the hardship ceases.
The new owner would be required to use the house for single
dwelling.
MRS. JOHNSON: What is going to s~op Other people from
making the same reques.t~
THE CHAIRMAN: They would have to have a legal reason. There
was alot of Old houses in the Town of'Southold that were vacant
· for a good manyyears. When the ordinance was passed it was
made possible to convert this old dwellings into two family
dwellings with this Board's permission. It-was better to have
these occupied and used as two family or t~reefamily dweilings
on a' large plot of land, rather than to have them vacant.
MRS. JOHNSON: When we bought this property we bought because
it was a one family dwelling neighborhood. Myhus~and has been
ill fox ma~y years. I had a heart attactmyself this past winter.
Ifwe had wanted to live in a Cwo family dwelling neighborhood
we would have bought there in the first place.
THE CHAIRMAN: There are many two family dwelling neighborhoods.
MRS. JOHNSON: That is why~we chose this place to live.
THE CHAIRMAN: They~ave enough land area to permit this
application~
b~{S. JOHNSON: Does this Board Put~a time limit on it?
THE~PL%IRMAN: Yes we do,. and I am trying to determine what
would be a reasonable time limit under the applicant's circumstances.
MRS. GIORDANO: As far as making this place a Coney Islandt
I think that is far fetched and very unrealistic. After'being
ill for a period of two years and spending every dollar that
~ have~ we are asking for a lega~elping hand.
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16, 1966
MRS. FLORENCE JOHNSON: This is nothing personal, this is
just'a general Statement.
MRS. GIORDANO: We have the front part of the house rented
-for August ~o a docter. We ask him if he would object-to
us coming out for the weekends and in the summer, and he has
~ho objection. Actually you will be having fewer people
coming out here.
MRS. PIE?.RN"POPIST?.: I also live in Bay'Haven. You have
answered certain questions to my s~tisfaction. I would like
to know, in the future, how we ma~e be-made aware of what
is going on. Should it be sold as a two family dwelling, or
the circumstances don~t work out~ how do we know when this
permisionis up?
THE CHAIRMAN: We would put a time limit on it. It would
be a condition of granting this appliCation. It may not be
used by any'one else for a two family dwelling. If this was
granted on a two year basis, after't hat'time thepermission
would expire.
MRS. HELEN POPISIL: I would not want the character of
the neighborhood changed.
THE CHAIRMAN: You think the granting of this application would
change the neighborhood?
MRS.' HELEN'POPISTT.: I feel that we have a wonderful neighborhood.
We are in a residential area. I would not want to loose my house
to have somebody else come along and change it. Also, I am living
on a pension.
THE CHAIRMAN: I don'tthink this'will change the character
of the neighborhood.
Is there anyone else who wishes to speak for or against this
application?
(~.There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Are there anyother questions in connection
with thie application~
(~There~as no response.)
Southold ToWn Board o~ppeals -9--
Ju~%e 16, 1966
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
the applicant request permission to convert a one .family
dwelling into a two family~dwelling. The area or'the p~o_perty
in question is in accordance with the landarea prescribed by.
the Zoning Ordinance of theTown of Southo-~/ for a two family
dwelling. The Board finds.that-the applicant suffers a
physical hardship thus needing to cnnvert-his home fortwo
family occupancy. It is the opinion of the Board that the
character of'the nieghborhoodwill not be changed in view
of the fact that no exterior changes will be made on the
~r~house in question.
The Board finds -that strict'application of the Ordinance
will produce practical difficulties or unnecessaryhardlfaip;
the hardship created is unique and would not be shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity ofthi~ property
and in the same use district; and the variance does observe
the spirit' of the Ordinance and will not change the character
of the district.
On motion by'Mr. Gillispie,~ seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED thatAssunta and Peter Giordano, Gin Lane,-Southold,
New York, be granted permission to cnnvert a one family~dwelling
into a~two family dWelling on property that is described as
being lots numbers eight (8) and nine (9) in Bay Haven at
-Southold, Southold, New York~ subject,however, to the
following conditions:
1. That the permissive us~ is granted for two~2).years
only.
2. That the permissive use wilt expire if'any part of
lot number eight (8) or nine ~9) is sOld.
3. That in the event the applicant should sell the house
before the~wo year time limit.is up, the permissive use will
expire with the sale of the house in question.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr.
Grigonis, Mr. Doyen.
Nay: - Mr. Hulse - Reasons~ insufficient
dwelling area, everyone has a physical hardship of'some type,
willchange the character of' the neighborhood.
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PUBLIC MRA~ING: Appeals No. 852 - 8~15 P.F~'~(E=D.S~T..), Upon
application of Frederick P. Rich, Hobart~Road,~ $outhold, New
York, forla variance in accordance ~ith the Zoning Ordinance,
Article~X, Section 1008, as enacted May 24, 1966, fore. permission
to reduce the area required for each apartment.. Location Of
property: north side-Main Road, Southold, New York, bounded
north, by'FjP. Rich, east by'Fire'Department, south by Main
Road, west by F.P. Rich. Fee paid $5.00.
WALTER KAPP'~ESQ'.': May I say something at this point. I
am here in favor oflthis application. I don~t see any'one
opposed to it. The application is quite lenghty. I would be
willing to waive the reading of the application if the Board
wishes to.
THE CHAIRF9%N: In view of the number ofhearings we have
scheduled for tonight, we will waive thereading of this
application as proposed by'Mr. Kapp.
The Board opened the hearingby reading the application
for a special exception in part, legal notice of hearing,
affidavit attesting to its publication in the officialnews-
paper, and~notice to the applicant.
~R.' BERGEN: Mm. Kapp, when this was set up was there
a plan submitted to the Town Board? Had they'accepted it
in writing?
WALTER KAPP%ESQ.: We do have an Open Development~Area.
Your new Ordinance, I understand,, was a stop gap to.prevent
multiple dwellings until the Master' Plan comes out. We have
plenty of area there, hut it doesn't meet the new requirements.
This was designed for the elderly, citizen who wants to
retire in Southold Town. It~ right adjoini~gto the Fire
Department. There are some two bedroom units in here. There
are no pets~allowed. This is just what,the Town needs. It's
good for t~e Town and it is good for these people. But-to
limit the area as the new ordinance does, it makes it impossible
to continue with this.
~ HULSE: Are the roads public or private?
WALTER KAP~% ESQ.: Theyare pziva~eroads.
MR. HULSE: Is there a garage for each resident?
WALTER KAPP,ESQ.: There is room for garages, but there isn~'t
the need.
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MR. DOYEN: I s~spect that 'the age iSso thatthey Won't
have manyvehicles.
WALTER KAPP,ESQ.': There are 14 occupants thereknow, and
there are only four cars. They can walk everyplace they want
to go.
MR. DOYEN: Is this what you would call clusterhousing?
WALTER KAPP~ESQ.': This is different from cluster'housing.
THE CHAIRMAN: This application is for this building h~re?
WALTER KAPP~EEQj: (pointing to map) This is the one that
the permit was revoked on. We are applying for a variance on
the whole thing, all cf.~he units.
THE CHAIRMAN: Do you have city water here?
~WALTER KAPP,ESQ.: We have city water and all t~e .utilities
are under ground.
(DensitY cf population and new amendment-to the'Zoning
'Ordinance was-discussed, as it affects the water table in
Southold Town.)
THECHAIRMAN: Is there anyone?-.else present~r~who wishes
to speak in favor of'this application?
(There was no,response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Is the~e anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board~nds that the
applicant request-permission to continue to build apartment units
with insufficient land area. The Board finds 'thatthe'Southold
Town Board had approved the entire ~yout of the property in
question'~ia~d had granted said applicant~permission for an
Open developmentarea. The Board agrees with the reasoning of
the applicant as set~ forth in the application to the
Board or'Appeals.
The Board finds that strict~application of the Ordinance
~will produce practiqa~ difficulties o~n~e~e~a~ed
hardship; thehardship created ~s unique an~ wou~ ~u~ ~ 0~
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by'ali properties alike in-the immediate vicinity of:this property
and in the same use district; and the variance does observe the
spirit of the Ordinance and will not change the character of the
district.
On motion by bit. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Hulse, it was
RESOLVED that Frederick P. Rich, Hobart Road~ Southold, New
York be qranted Dermission to reduce the land area required for
each apartment on propertylocatednorth side Main Roa~, Southold,
New York,bounded north by F.P. Rich, east bp Fire Department ,
south by Main Road~ west by F.P. Rich.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: - Mr. GilliSpie, Mr. Bergen~ Mr.
Hulse~ Fir. Doyen~ Mr. Grigonis.
The Chairman reopened the hearing on Appeal No. 849, upon
application of Baker and Fickeissen,-Southold, New York~a/c
Ilie Wacs~ Sound Drive~ Greenport, New York, for a variance
in accordance with theZoning Ordinance, Article III, Section
307~ for permission to reduce the side yard requirement.
Location of property: lot no 105 in Eastez~Shores at
Greenport~ Section IV, Greenport, New York.
Mr. Fickeissen appeared before the Board to discuss this
application. The Board advisedMr. Fickeissen thatthere didn't
seem to be sufficient reason for'varing the side yard on this
lot. An alternative locatinn for the proposed addition was
discussed.
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THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anything further/be s~id either for
or against this application?
i(There was no response.)
Afterinvestigation and inspection the Board finds that
the applicant request permission to construct a dwelling and
vary the side yard requirement from 10 feet to 7 feet. The
Board finds that_there is more thanenough area involved in
this lot and that some alternative location fOr the addition
must be sought. The Board points out'that this lot is on
a filed map and there should be no variances granted.
The Board finds that strict application of'the Ordinance
willF~roduce practical difficulties or unneccessary hardship;
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June 16, 1966
the hardship created is not-unique and would be shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of~this Property'and
in 'the same use district; and the variance does not observe
the spirit of the Ordinance and will d%ange the character of
the district.
On motion by ~ir. Gillispie, Seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED that~Baker'and Fickeissen,. Southold, New York,
a/c Ilie Wacs, Sound Dri=~, Greenport, New York, be denied
permission to reduce the side yard requirement on lot'number
105 in'Eastern Shores at Greenport, Section IV,'~ Greenport,
New York.
Vote or'the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr.
Hulse, Mr.. Doyen, Mr. Grigonis.
'PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 853 9:00 P,M. (E.D.S~T.), Upon
application of Fishers Island Utility'Co., Inc., Fishers Island~
New York, for'a variance in acco~nce with the'Zoning Ordinance,
.Article IIIR, Section 370, Subsection (2), Article X, Section
1008, as enacted May 24, 1966, for permission to reduce the area
required for each apartment. Location of property: north side
Whisf~r~Avenue, Fishers Island, New York, boundednorth by Race
Point Copt., east by Steve Morell, south by Whistler'Avenue,
west by Robert'Waddington. Fee paid $5..00
The Chairman opened the hearing byreadin~ the application for
a-variance,, legal.notice of~hea~ng, affidavit attesting to its
publication in the official newspaper, and notice to the applicant.
THE~CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone'present Who wish~s to speak
in favor of this application?
(There was no response.)
THE cHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak in
opposition to this application?
(There ~s no 'response.)
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June 16, 1966
After investigation and .inspection the Board finds that
the applicant request permission to con, err'an existing dwelling
into five apartments with insufficient land area. The Board
finds that this structure was built prior to the Zoning
Ordinance and was designed as a multi-purpose building. The
Board points out that-if this structure was not converted into
five at~tments it would remain an eyesore to the neighborhood.
Thus the conversion of this structure will enhance the
character of the neighborhood. In general~ the Board is in
agreement with the reason'ing ofthe applicant as set forth
in the application to the Board of'Appeals.
The Board finds that'strictapplication to the Ordinance
will produce practical difficulties or. unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created is unique and would notbe shared by all
properties'alike in the immediate vicinity of this prop~ty
and in the same use district; and the variance does-observe
the spirit of the Ordinance and will not change the character
of the district.
On motion by'Mr. Doyen, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVEDthat'Fishers Island Utility'Co.~ Inc~,-Fishers
Island, New York, be grantedpermission to reduce the land
area.require for each apartment unit on property located north
side of~Whislter'Avenue,. Fishers Island, New 'fork.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- blt. Gillispie~ Mr. Bergen, Mr. Hulse~
Mr. Doye$, Fir. Grigonis.
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PUBLIC-~%RING:-Appeal No. 855 - 9:20 P.M,(E.D.S,T.), pon
application of Margaret-Dellano~ NorthRoad,-Southold,.N~w '~
York, ~or a special exception in accordance with the Zoning
Ordinance, Article IV, Section 408, Subsection (a), for 'per-
mission to retain an o~premises ground sign and reduce the
setback requirement. Location of property: north side North
Road, Southold, New York, boundednorth by Robert Hertzberg, east
by'D.T. Aurichio, south by North Road, west bY'Clark'Road.
Fee paid $5.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing byreading'application
for a special exception, legal notice of'hearing, affidavit
attesting to~r~ 'its publication in the official newspaper,
and notice to the applicant.
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June 16, 1966
THE CHAIRMAN: Is .the~e anyone present-who wishes to speak
for this application? Do you have anything to a~ Mrs. Dellano?
MRS, DELLANO: I broughtthemap along withme.
(Mrs, Dellano pointed out her property on the survey,)
THE CHAIRMAN: Have you determined where the. propertyline
is?
MRS, DR~T,ANO: It is almost to the trees,
center of the highway,
It is 33 feet-from the
THE CHAIRMAN: ~he Boardcan~t-grant permission to put
the sign on the countypro~erty,
MRs. DELLANO: I would have to appea~ to the County'then,
They don-'-t-care where I.have my sign.
THE CHAIRMAN: They won't allow a sign on this property.
MRS. DELLANO: It is in line with 'the telephone poles,
MR.' HULSE: It is on Connty'property,
MRS,'. DELLANO: It is in line with the mail boxes.
HOWARD TERRY: It is in the highway-at the present timel
THE CHAIRMAN: I think the best solution is for this Board
to permit you to place the sign one foot in 'front of the tree
line providing this is on your o~n property,
MRS.~ DELLANO: Then I can leave it where it is. What~ will
happen?
MR, BERGEN: Your sign. may be lost.
MRS. DELLANO: I can't see what is so objectinmal about'this
sign, · could see if it was a great ~w~ big biIlbaard.
THE CHAIRMAN: This Board can not grant permission for a sign
on private property,
MR. HULSE: I think we should not make a decision on this
application until the property line is established,
THE CHAIRMAN: You should have Mr, Van T~yl de~ermine where
your lin~ is for you,
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MRS. DELLANO: Doesn't the ToWn .have a rasp showing the
p~operty lines?
THE CHAIRMAN: No.
Is there anyone else who wishes to spaak in favor of this
application?
(There was no response.)
T~E~I~CHAIR~A~: Is the~e anyone present~ho wishes to speak
in opposition to this applicatinn?
(There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
the applicant request permission to retain~an on premis 'es
groundsign and reduce the setback requirement. The Board
finds that the view of'this sign is obstructed by.trees. The
sign is to ~ identifYthat-the applicant takes in: tourist.
The Board points out that the property line has to be established
before the sign can be continued.
· he Board finds that~ the public convenience and
welfare and justice will be served and the legally established
or permi~ed~ use of neighborhoodproperty%and adjoining use
districts will not-be permanently or substantially injured and
the spirit~of'the Ordinance will be observed.
On motionby'Mr. Gillispie, seconded by'Mr.. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED that~Margaret Deltano~ North,~oad,. Southold, New
York, be granted permission to retain an on premises ground sign
and reduce the setback on propertylocated on'theJnorth side
or'the North Road, Southold, New York, subject~ however to the
following conditions:
1. The sign shall be set back at least one (1) foot behind
the established property line.
This sign is granted for one (1) year, renewable annually.
35 ~&ls sign shall be subjectto all subsequentchanges in
the South01d Town Zoning'Ordinance.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie., Mr. Bergen, Mr.
Doyem, bit. Grigonis.
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16, 1966
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 856 - 9:40 P~M~(E.D.'S.'T~), Upon
application or'Edward Fox, Main Road, and Pequash Avenue~-Cutch-
ogue, New York, for a special exception in accordance with the
Zoning Ordinance,~Article IV, Section 408, Subsection ~), for
permission to retain a wall sign. Location of property: south
west corner of the Main Road and Pequash'Avenue,-Cutchogue, New
York, bounded north by Main Road, east~by'Pequash Avenue, south
by MF Barteau, ~est by G.Hj Fleet Estate, Fee paid.S5.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing byreading the application
for a special exception, legal notice of hearing, affidavit
attesting to'i~s publication in the official newspaper~ and
notice~ to the applicant.
THECHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
in favor of this application?
MRj EDWARD FOX: I am here. If I place this sign on the
east side by'Pequash Avenue it will be of no value because
of the way the building is situated on the lot. Therefore~
I would like-to maintain this sign on the west wall or'the
building. This is a "Happy'Motoring sign".
THE CHA~: Is there anyone 'present who wishes to
speak in opposition to t~is application?
(There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection theBoard finds that
the applicant~request permission to retain an on premises wall
sign"~7~( on the westerly wall of his building. This sign
could ~e located on the easterly side of the buildingbecause
the property in question is located on a corner. However,
the sign would be of no value if located on the easterly side
of the building. Therefore, the Board believes it is in the
best interest to have this sign located as proposed by the
applicant.
The Board finds that ~ public ~onvenience and welfare
and justice will be served~, the legally'established or
permitted use ofneighborhood property and adjoining use
districts will not be permanently or substantially injured
and the spirit or'the Ordinanc~ will be observed.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Fir. Hulse, it was
RESOLVED that'Edward Fox, Pequash Avenue and the Main Road
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Juen 16, 1966
Cutchogue~, New York, be granted permission to retain an on
premises wall sign on the westerlywall of the building located
on the south west corner~of the Main Road and Pequash Avenue,
Cutchgoue, New York, subject~ however, to the following conditions:
1. There shall be no other ground signs or-wall signs erected
at this ~ premises.
2. This sign is granted for one (1) year'only, renewable
annually.
3. This s~gn shall be subject to all s~bsequat-changes~in
the Southold Town Zoning Ordinance.
Vote of the Board:-Ayes:- Mr. Gillipsie, Mr. Bergen, Fir.
Hulse, Mr. Doye~ Mr. Grigonis.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 857 - 9:45 PJM~'(E.'~.-S%~T~), Upon
application of'Dickinson Real Estate Agency~ Main Road~ Southdd,
New York, for a special exception in accordance wi~h the Zoning
Ordinance, Article IV, Section 408, SubsectiOn (b), for~permission
to retain two wall signs in lieu of a ground sign. Location of
property: south side Mah Road, Southold, New York, bounded
north by Main Road, east by Town of Sou~hold, south by.the
Town of Southold, west by private road. Fee paid $5.00.
The Chairman opmned the hearing by reading the
application for'a special exception, legal notice or'hearing,
affidavit~attesting, to its publication in the official newspaper,~
and notice to the applicant.
THECHA~: Is there anyone present who wishes .tospeak
in favor of this application?
MR.- G. NICKLES: I brought~a survey of theproperty and it
is 15 feet~wide and 100 feet deep. The building takes up the
whole property. -~
THE'CHAIRMAn: How long is the building?
MR. G.' NICKLES: 38 feet long. This is the Main Road right
out here and we couldn't put a sign there.
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June 16, 1966
THE CHAIRMAN: Whatis the size or'the sign on the west~side
of the building?
MR: G~ NICF~.RS: It is 3~ feet wide.
THE CHAIRMAN: That is well within thelimit.
MRS. BURNS: There is a sign on the front-of the building that
states the broker and'~ license number.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present-who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no response.)
After-investigation and inspection the Board finds that
the applicant ~ request permission to ~l~r~ retain two wall
signs at their premises in lieu of one wall sign and on e ground
sign as permitted bythe Zoning Ordinance. The Boardpoints
out that the p~operty in question has verysmall frontage. It
is impossible for the applicant to erect*a ground sign at
their place ofbusiness. In general the Board agrees with the
reasoning of the applicant-as set forth in the application to
the Board of Appeals.
The Board finds that the public conveneice and welfare
and justice will be served and the ~ gally establist~d or
permitted use of neighborhood property and adjoining use
districts will not be permanently'or substantially .injured
and the spirit of'the Ordinance will be observed.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Hulse, it was
RESQLV~3/~that~Dickinson Real EstateAgency, Main Road~ Sou~hold,
New York, be granted permission toretain~two wall signs in lieu
of a ground sign on property located south side Ma~ Road, $outhold~
New York,subject, however to the fOllowing conditions:
1. This sign is granted for one (1) year only, renewable
annually.
2. This xsign shall be subject to all subsequent changes in
theSouthold Town Zoning Ordinance as it applies to signs.
3. The applicant-is forbidden to erect-or display any ground
sign.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mro Gillispie~ Mr. Bergen, Mr. Hulse,
Mr. Doyen, Mr._ Grig0n!~.~ ....
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June 16, 1966
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 858 - 9:50 P.-M.'(E.'DjS~Tj), Upon
application of Burnett~F. Tuthill, Route 25, Cutchogue, New York,
for a special exception in acaordance with the Zoning Ordinance,
Article IV, Section 408, Subsection~A, for permission to retain
an on premises ground sign. Location O~property: north
side Main Road, Cutchogue, New York, bounded north~B.F. Tuthill,
east by B.'Fj Tuthill~ south by Main Road, west by BridgeLane.
Fee paid $5,00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading application for
a special exception, legal notice of hearing, affidavit~attesting
to~ its publication in the official newspaper, and notice to
the applicant.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present.who wis~s to speak
in favor of this application.
was.
MR. TUTHII~: I have moved the sign back.
THE CHAIRMAN: Where is the sign now ?
MR.' TUTHILL: About One foot closer to the road than it
TRE"~HAIRMAN: How far is the sign from the property line?
MR. TUTH7~.: A little over five feet.
'TPLE CHAIRMAN: Is this a business area?
HOWARD TERRY: It's a "A" District.
THE CHAIRMAN: How big is the sign?
MR. TUTHILL: About three feet by'4 feet.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is~he sign single or doubled face?
M~.' TUT~.T~: It is double face.
MR. HULSE: How many years has the sign been there?
MR. TUTHILL: About 15 years.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
in opposition to this application?
(There was no response.)
Southold Town Board of Appeals -21- June 16, 1966
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
the applicant request permission to retain an on premises
real estate-identification sign inan "A" Residential and
~Agricultural District. The Board f~ds that'the applicant
has set 'the sign in question back-five feet from the property
line to conform with the Zoning Ordinance. The Board
further finds that the sign in question has been in the
same location for 15 years.
The Board finds that the public,convenience and welfare
and justice will be served and the legally established or
permitted use of neighborhood property and adjoining use
districts will not be permanently or substantially injured
and the spirit of the Ordinance will be observed.
On motion by Mr. Bergen, secnnded by. Mr. Hulse, it was
RESOLVED that Burnett F. Tuthilt, Route 25, Cutchogue,
New York, be granted permission to retain an onpremises
real estate'~dentification s~gn on property located north
side Main'Road, Cuthchogue, New York, subject, however, to
the following conditions: ~
1. This sign is granted for one year (1) year only~
renewable annually.
2. This sign shall be subject to allsubsequentchanges
in the Southold Town-Zoning Ordinance as it applies to signs.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Hulse,
Mr. Doyen, Mr. Grigonis.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal NO. 859 - 10:00 P.M.(E.'D.S,T,'), Upon
application of Fred Bohlke,~Shipyard Lane~ East'Marion, New
York, for'~ special exception, inaccordance with the Zoning
Ordinance,-Article III, Section 300, Subsection 10, for per-
mission to retain an off premises directional sign on the
property-of Jose~h. Cherepowicz. Locatinnof property: south
east corner~of Main Road and. Shipyard Lane, East Marion, New
York, bounded north by Main Road, east by other land of
Cherepowicz, south by Reeve, West by'Shipyard Lane.. Fee paid
$5.00.
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June 16, 1966
The Chairman opened the hearing byreading the application
for a special except~n, legal notice*~ ofhearing, affidavit
attesting to its publication in the offidalnewspaper, and
notice oto the applicant.
THE CF~IR: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
in favor of this application?
biR. BORI~KE: I do.
THE CPL~IRMAN: Do you have anything to add to the
application ?
MR. BO~: No.
THR CHAIRMAN: As i recall it, this ~ gn was taken down
at one time wasn't it?
MR. BOH~KE: I didn't take it~down, someone else did.
THE CHAIRMAN: What is.the size ofthis sign?
MR. BOHI~E: It is overtwo feet square. It is about-21 in,es.
THE CHAIRMAN: What does the sign say?
MR. BOHLKE: Cottages and rooms for rent.
THE CHAIRMAN: Does it have your name on it?
MR. BOPr~.KE: No.
THE CHAIRMAN: Just an arrow on it?
MR.' BOHLKE: That is right.
THE CHAIRMAN: Do you rent the rooms and cottages by,the
week or season?
MR. BOHtRfE: For'a week, t~O weeks, or a season if anyone
wants' to. It's a tmanscient business.
THE CHAIRMAN: How far are you from the Main Road?
MR. BOFfLE~: Not quite a mile.
HOWARD TERRY: He is about one half mile from 'the Main Road
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TPIE~CHAI_R~AN: So actually you:need a directional sign.
Onelother~thing I think we are concerned with here is the
location off'this sign on the corner of Shipyard Lane and
the.Main Road. How far is it set back now?
MR.' BOHI~E: I think it is right,on the~line, I don'~t know.
THE CHAIRMAn,: Would it be possible for'you to set~e sign
back five feetfrom the property line?
MR. BO~T.KE: Yes.
THE CHAIRMAN: Are there any other questions?
(There was no response.)
~CHAIRMAN:. Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
in opposition to this application?
(There was no re~nse.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
the applicant request~permissi°n to retain an off premises
directional sign on the property ofJoseph Cherepowicz, located
on the corner of'Shipyard Lane and Main Road, East MariQn, New
York. The Board finds that Mr. Joseph Cb~epowicz has given
a written letter of permission~to the applicant, stating he
may place a sign on his property. The directional sign is
for cottages and guest rooms for rent. TheBoar'd believes
that such a sign is in the interest of the-traveling public.
The Board finds thatthe public convergence and welfare
and justice will be served and the. legally established or
permitted use of neighborhood property.-and adjoining use
districts wiil not be. permanentlyor substantially injured
and the spirit of the Ordinance will be observed.
On motion by Fir. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Hulse~ it was
RESOLVED that Fred Bohlke,~Shipyard Lane~ East Marion,
New. York, be granted permission to re~ain anoffpremises
directional sign on~E~ the property of~Joseph'chereP°wicz
located on the south east~corner of the M~n-Road and. Shipyard
Lane~ East~Marion, New York, subject~ however~ to the following
conditions:
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1. This sign shall be granted for one (1) year only,
renewable annually.
2. This sign shall be subject' to all subsequent'changes
in the Southold Town Zoning Ordinance as it applies to signs.
3. This sign shall be located at least five (5) feet-from
any 'property line.
4. This sign shall be located at-least three (3) feet
above ground level.
5. This sign shall be Dlaced in the correct location by
June 30~ 1966.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gilli~ie, Mr. Bergen, Mr.
Hulse~ Mr. Doyen~ Mr. Grigonis.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal NO. 860 - 10:10 P.M.' [E.D.'S.T.), Upon
application of~corwin C. Grathwohl, Inc., West Main- Street,
Cutchogue,' New York~ for a special exception in accordance with
the-Zoning Ordinance, Article IV, Section 408, Subsection a,
for permission to retain an on premises ground sign. Location
of property: north side Main Road, cutchogue, New York, bounded
north by Fred Wikaelin, east by Ruth Grathwohl, south by
Main Road, west by'A. Kuhlman. Fee paid $5.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading application
for a special exception, legal notice of'hea~g, affidavit
attesting to its publication in the official newspaper3 and
notice to the applicant.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
in favor of this application?
MR. GRATHWOHL: I do.
THE CHAIRMAN: How low is this sign to the ground?
MR. GRATHWOHL: It is about 6 inches from the ground.
MR. HI,SE: Is the sign on the residence or the business?
MR. GRATHWOHL: The sign is on the zesidence.
~THE. CHA_IRMAN: The business is on the corner.
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Grathwohl
(Fir. Corwin/presented to the Board a survey of the
property, in question.)
MR. GRATHWO~: This sign is six feet six inches from the
road line.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is this two separate pieces of property?
MR.' GRATHWOHL: Yes.
MRS' HULSE: The business is on the corner lot.
HOWARD TERRY: It is all business property.
MRS,' GRATHWHOL: It would be very unsightly if made to conform.
THE CHAIRMAN~ Are there any other questions in connection
with this application?
i~There was no response.)
THE'CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against'this application?
~There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
the applicant request permission to retain an on premises
identification sign with less than three feet above ground
level. The Board points~ont that in this case if the sign
was raised to three feet above ground level it would create
a traffic hazzard. The Board f~ds that this sign has been
in the same location for almost twenty years. The Board finds
that the size of the sign is 72 square feet, which is under
the permissable 80 square feet.
The Board finds that the public convenience and welfare
and justice will be served and the legally established or
permitted use of neighborhood property and adjoining use
districts will not be permanently or substantially injured
and .the spirit of the Ordinance will be observed°
On motion by bit. Bergen~ seconded by Mr. Gillispie~ it was
RESOLVED that Corwin C. Grathwohl, Inc.~ West Main Street~
Cutchogue, New York, be granted permission to retain an on
premises identification s~gn with less than three feet above
~gr0und.!e~el~on property located on the north side of the Main
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Road, Cutchogue, New York, subject, however, to the following
conditions:
1. This~sign shalI be granted for one (1) year, renewable
annually.
2. This sign shall be subject to all subsequent changes
in the Southold Town Zoning Ordinance as itapplies to signs.
3. This sign shall be locat~d~at~least five (5) feet from
any property line.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- ~ir. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen~
Hulse, Mr. Doyen, Mr. Grigonis.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal NO. 861 - 10:20 P.M~'(E.D.S.T.)~i Upon
applicatbn ofB.HJ Kersnowski, Main Road, Laurel, New' York, for
a special exception in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance,
Article IV, Section 408, Subsectionb, for permission to retain
wall signs on his farmstand. Location of property: north side
Main Road, Laurel, New Yor$, bounded north by'Charles Price,
east by'Charles Price, south~by'Main Road, west-by Carl
Besch. Fee paid $5.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing~by reading application for
a special exception, legal notice ofhearing, affidavit'attesting
to its publication in the official newspaper, and notice to the
__ - -: - applicant.
The CHAIRMAN: Is there anYOne present who wishes to speak
for this application?
MR. KERENOWSKI: The signs ~will'be on each side~f the
building.
THE~ CHAIRMAN: What does the sign say?
MR. KERS~OWSKI: Laurel Lake Stand, Fruits and Vegetables.
~IE CHAIRMAN: Would it'be a traffic hazard to put a sign
on the ground?
MR, KERSNOWSKI: A sign on the ground would not be seen.
stand sits in the hollow.
The
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June 16, 1966
THE CHAIRMAN:. Are there any other questions in connection
with this sign?
(There was .no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no response..)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
the applica~t~request permission to have two wall signs on
his farm stand in lieu of one wall sign and one ground sign
as permitted by the~Zoning Ordinance. This farm stand is
located in a "B" Business District. The Board points out
that~a ground sign at this farm stand would be of no value
as the stand is set'down in a hollow and a ground sign could
not be seen. The Board finds that the wall signs are within
the/~maximum square footage al-lowed for farm-stands
in a Business District. In general, the Board is in agreemenh
with the reasoning of'the applicant as set'forth i~ the
applicat&on to the Board of Appeals.
The Board finds that'the public convenience and welfare
and justice will be served and the legally established or
permitted use of neighborhood propertyand adjoining use
districts will not be permanentlyor substantially injured
and the spirit of the Ordinance will be observed.
On motion by 'Mr. Bergen,::seconded by F~. Hulse, it was
RE$OT.~ED that B.H. Kersnowski, Main Road, Laurel, New
York, be g~anted permission~to retain two wall signs on his
farm stand located on the north side off'the MainRoadt Laurel,
New York, subject, however, to the following conditions:
~.' This sign shall be gr~ed for one ~1) year only,
renewable annually.
2. This sign shall be subject to all subsequent changes
in the Southold Town Zoning Ordinanceas it applies to signs.
3. The applicant is forbidden to erect~or display a ground
sign of any'type.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gill~pie~ Mr. Bergen,~ Mr.
Hulse, Fir. Doyen,~ Mr. ~rigonis.
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June .16,, 1966
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 862 - 10:30
Upon application of~CharlesRose, Main Road, Orient., New York,,
for a speciatexception in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance,
ArtiCle IV, Section 408, Subsection B, for permission to retain
a side wall sign. Location ofprope~ty: north side Main Road,
Orient, New York, bounded north by Francisco Est.~, cast-by
Rufus Tuthill, south by'Main Highway, we~t by'Amelia Sledjeski.
Fee paid $5.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a special exception, legal notice of'hearing, affidavit
~ttesting to its publication in the official newspaper, and
notice to the ,applicant.
THE,~AIRMAN: If Mr. Rose will make a mere that-this letter
of May'B1, 1966 be incorpDmated in the application number 862,
special exception request-we will continue with the hearing.
MR. ROSE: I willmake that move.
THE CHAIRMAN: Would you like to add anything to the
applicat~n?
MR. ROSE: It is just my name spelt out in letters. I
think the application explains itself.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is this sign used from the air?
MRj ROSE: No, different people use it'if they-are to meet
someone here. If this sk3n was placed on the front of the
building.you wouldn't be able to see it~at~ alI'-
THE CHAIRMAN: Are there any other questions in connection
with this~application?
~There was no response.')
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present-who wishes to speak
-against~this application?
~There was no response.)
Southold .Town Board of'Appeals -29- June 16,~1966
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
the applicant request permission to retain a sign on the west
wall of %he building. The Board ~nds that the applicant has
always considered~the west wall of, the building as the front
of the building. The Board finds that if the sign was placed
~ on the south side of the buil~ng~ the actualyfront of the
buildings, itcould not-be ~een from any of the roads leading
to the airport. The Board finds that~the airport is used
bymany people in the community and proper identification is
necessary.
The Board finds that the public convenience and welfare
and justice will be served and the!legally established or
permitted use of neighborhood property'and adjoining use
districts will not be permanently or substantially injured
and the spirit of the Ordinance will be observed.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED that Charles Rose, Main Road, Orient, New York
be granted permission to retain a wall sign on the west wall
of the airport_building located on the north side of the
Main Road, Orient, New York, subject, however, to the following
conditions:
1. This sign shall be granted for one ~1) year'only,
renewable annually.
2. This sign shall be subject!to all subsequent changes
in the Southold Town Zoning Ordinance as it applies to signs.
Vote of the Board: A~es: Mr. Gillispie, blt. Bergen, Fir.
Hulse, Far.-Doyen, Mr. Grigonis.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 854 - 9:10 P.M.i(E.D,S.T~), Upon
application of Mary'C. Grebe and PollyEdmonds, Fishers Island,
New York, for a variance in accordance with the Zoning.'Ordinance,
ArtieleX, Section 1008, as enacted.May 24, 1966, for permission
to reduce the area required foreach~ap~rtment. Location of
property: north side Whistler3Avenue, Fishers Island~ New York,
bounded north by Race Point-Corp., east by Robert~Waddington,
south by Whistler Avenue, west by Race Point'Corp. Fee paid $5.00.~
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The~hairman opened the hearing by'reading the application
for a ~ variance, legal notice of hearing, affidavit
attesting to its publication ~ the official newspaper, and
notice to the applicant.
THE CHAIRF~%N: The application is accompanyied by a sketch
of the house.
Is there anyone present who wishes to speak in favor of
this application?
(Theze was no response.)
T~ME. CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
in opposition to this application~
(There was no r~ponse.)
THE CHA~: What is the size of the lot?
HOWARD TERRY: It is about one half acre.
THE CHAIRMAN: Theyhave public water supplyhere. This
will be for summer occupancy. Are there any other questions?
(There was no response.)
~After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
the applicant request permission to use an existing building
as three separate ap~tments with.insufficient land area. The
Board finds that the building existed with three separate
apartments prior to the enactment of the Zoning Ordinance. The
existing building was constructed to be used as three apartments,
and the rbuilding would be of no value if it couldn't be used
as three apartments. The Board finds that the apartments are
to be used for summer occupancy. The Board further finds that
the water supplyWill be supplied by'the Fishers Island Estates
Water'Company.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance
will produce practical difficulties or nnnecessary hardship;
the hardsh~ createdis unique and would not be shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property~and
in the same use district and the variance does observe the
spirit of the Ordinmnce and will not change the character of
the district.
$outhold Town Board of-Appeals -31- June 16, 1966
On motion by Mr. Doyen, seconded by Mr. Bergen~ it was
RESOLVED that~XH~Mary'C~ Grebe and Polly'Edmonds, Fishers
Island, New York, be granted permission to-use an existing
building as~-~ three apartments with insuffi~?'nt land area
on property located on the north sideWhistler~Avenue, Fisehrs
Island, New York, bounded north by'Race Point'Corp., east by
Robert Waddington, eouth byWh-4~ler'Avenue, west by Race Point
-Corp.
Vote of'the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gilli~ ie, Mr. Bergen, Mr.
Hulse, Mr.. Doyen~ Mr. Grigonis.
On motion by Mr. Hulse, seconded by Mr. Bergen~ it was
minutes
RESOLVED that the:~ of the Southold Town Board of
Appeals dated~June 14, 1966, be approved as submitted.
Vote of-the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie~ Mr. Bergen, Mr.
Hulse, Mr. Doyen, Mr. Grigonis.
On motion by-Fir. Bergen, seconded by Mr'. Hulse~ it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the~Southold Town Board of
Appeals dated June 2, 1966, be approved as submitted.
Vote-of the Board: Ayes:-'Mr. Gilli~pie, Mr. Bergen, Mr.
Hulse, Mr. Doyen, M_~. Grigonis.
In accordance with a letter received from the $outhold
Fire-Department,. on motion by'Mr. HUlse, seconded by Mr.
Grignois~ it was
RESOLVED,that the Board of .Appeals grantsF~ermission 'to
the protection Engine Company'of the Southold ire Department
Frank Lekich, Secretary~ to place posters in SOuthold Town
advertising annual fund raising event. These posters will be
erected on June 19, 1966. Also ~to be erected is a four foot
by eight foot.poster on the firehouse g~ounds, tt is specifically
pointed out'at these posters must be removed ~ _~~.
promptly after July'10~ 1966.
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It is specifically forbidden to place these posters on
utilitypoles or on private property without permission.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr.
Hulse, Mr. Doyen, Mr. Grigonis.
On motion by M_r. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of'Appeals set
7:30 P.'M.(E.D.S.'TJ),.-~r~ ~nursday, June 30, 1966, at the Town
Office, Main Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place
of hearing upon application of Robert'Kart, Riverhead~ New
York~ a/cAppolonia Kirchgessner, Camp Mineota Road~ Mattituck,
New York, for recognitinn of'access in accordance with the
State ~ New York To~n'Law, Section 280A. Location of proposed
access: east side Camp Mineota Road, Mattituck~ New York, bounded
north by other land of Kirchgessner, east by James Norris Estate,
~ south by'other land of Kirchgessner, west by Camp Mineola
Road.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Ail
On motion by Mr. Bergen, seconded by Mr. Hulse, it was
RESOLVED that theSouthold Town Board of'Appeals set
7:40 P.M.(E.D.S.~T.~), Thursday, June 30, 1966, at the Town
Office, Main Road, Southold~ N~ew York, as the. time and
place of hearing upon application of Joseph and MaryKirwin,
Bay Avenue-Cutchogue, New York, for a variance in accordance
with the Zoning~Ordinance, Article III,~ Section 303, Article
X,-Section 1000A, and State of New York Town Law,~$ection
280A, forpermission to divide land with' less than 100 foot
frontage and forapproval of access. Location of proper~y:
lot number 105~in Nassau Farms subdivision~ Cutchogue, New
York.
Vote of the Board:. Ayes: Ail
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June 16, 1966
On motion by'Mr. Hulse, seconded by'Mr. Doyen, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board or'Appeals set
7:50 P.M.'(E.D.'S~T.~), Thursday, June 30, 1966, at theTown
Office, Main Road, Southold, New Yoxk, as the time and
place of hearing.upon application of Arthur and Edna
Antonison, 10 Winthrop-Street, Brooklyn 25, New York, for
a variance in accordance, with the Zoning Ordinance, Article
III,~'Section 305, for permission to build an additionto an
existing dwelling with insufficient set back. Location of
property: west'side Hiawatha's Path, Southold, New York,
bounded north by'C.H. Wickham, east by Hiawatha's Path, south
by-William Uhlhorn, west by"C.H. Wickham.
Vote of the Board Ayes:- ALL
On motion by Mr. Doyen, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board oftAppeals set
8:00 P.Mo!(E~D.'S.T.)~ Thursday, June 30, 1966, at theTown
Office, Main Road, Southold, New York, as the time and
place of h~ing upon application of Joseph Diaz, Wilmarth
~-~r~VW~A~enue, Greenport, New York, for a variance in
accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section
300, Subsection 6, for permission to build an accessory
building in the side yard area. Location of property: north
side WilmarthAvenue, Greenport~ New York, lots no one half of
35 all of 36 and one half of 37 in Washington Heights sub-
d/vision, Greenport, New York.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:_
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded ;by'Mr. Hulse, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of-Appeals set
8:15 P,M~i~E.'D.S~T~), Thursday~ June 30~ 1966, at the Town
Office~ Main Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place
of'hearing upon application of~C.F.' VanDuzer'Gas Service, Inc.,
Route 2~A, Southold, New York, for'a special exception in
accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article IV, Section 408,
Subsection B, for permission to retain a wall sign. Location
of property: north side Route 27A, Southold, New York, bounded
north by H~'E. Tuthill, east byRonald W. Ryan, 'south by County
Route 27A,._west by H.'E. Tuthill.
Vote of the Board: ayes: ALL
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On motion by'Fir. Bergen, seconded by'Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appea~s set
8:30 P.'M~(E.D~S.T~), Thursday, June 30, 1966, at the Town
Office, Main Road,: Southold, New York, as the time and place
of hearinguPon application of Caberon PzDperties, Inc.,
Cases Lane, Cutchogue, New York, for a special exception in
accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section
300, Subsection 10, for permission to locate a directional
sign on the property ofEdward Munson, located on the mouth
side of Main Road,~Cutchogue, New York,. bounded north by
Ms~ Road, east by J~A. Hand~ south~by J.'B.' Sommer, west'by
J.B.' Sommer; and for permission to locate a directional sign
on the property of~Cas~-Bros. Location of property: north
west corner of Cedar's Lane and New Suffolk-Lane, Cutchogue,.
New York, bounded north by F.'M.' Corwin, east by New Suffolk
Lane, south byCedar's'Lane, west~by'Caberon Prpperties~. 'Inc.
Vote of theBoard; Ayes: ALL
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Doyen~ it was
RESOLVED 'that'the Southold Town Board of Appeals set
8i~0 P~M.~(E.D.S.T.), Thursday, June 30, 1966, at the Town
Office~ Main Road~-Southold, New York, as the time and place
ofhearing~pon application of Walter~Rowland, a/c'Cutchogue
Red Barn Antiques, Main Road, Cutchogue, New York, for a
special exception in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance,
Article IV, Section 408, Subsection A, forpermission to
retain a ground sign with insufficient set back. Location of
property: north side Main Road,-Cutchogue, New York~ bounded
north by Paul Koloski-Kapusta, east by Kuhlman-Koloski, south by
Main Road-Beebe, west by Ruth Coyne-Dickey.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-ALL
On motion by Mr. Bergen, seconded by Mr. 6rigonis, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals set 8:50
P.M~(E.D~'S.T.'), Thursday, June 30, 1966, at theTown Office, Main
Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place of hearing upon
application of Newton Robbins~ Capt. Jims Fishing Station, Third'
Street, New Suffolk, New York~ for a special~DE~._ exception
in accordance with the Zoning'Ordinance, Article III,Section
300,-Subsection 10, for permission to retain d~rectional signs
on the property of said applicant, located on the north east
corner of Third Street and Main Street, New Suffolk, New York,
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bounded north by Helen Aponik, eastbyDante A. Lorti, south by
Main Street, west by Third.Street; and for permission to locate
a directional sign on theproperty'ofMrs.-Susan Pugsley.
Location of property: south east cornerof Jackson Street-and
Third.Street, bounded north by Jackson-Street, east by3'Second
Street, south by Peconic Bay-N. Robbins, west by'Thirs Street-
N. Robbins.
Vote of the Board: AYES: .ALL
On motion by Mr. Hulse, seconded by'Mr. Gillispie, it was
R~SOLVED that-the'Sou~hold Town Board of Appeals set
9:00 P.M~!(E.D.'S.T.), Thursday, June' 30, 1966, at the Town Office,
Main Road,.SoUthold, New York, as the time and place of
hearing upon application of Southold Lumber~Comlmany, Inc., Youngs
Avenue,-Southold~ New York, for'a .special exception in accordance
with the ZoningOrdir~nce, Article IV, Section 4084 Subsection B~
for permission to retain an on premises side wall sign. Location
of property: east side Youngs Avenue, Southold, New York, Bounded
north by Hummell Avenue, east by'Su~olk Co-op, south by Railroad,
west by Youngs AvBnue.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-ALL
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Doyen~ it mas
RESOLVED that the'Southold Town Board of'Appeals set
9:15 P~M.(E.'D. SjT.), Thursday, June 30, 1966, at theTown
Office, Main Road,-Southold, New York, as the time an d place
ofhearing upon application of Cutchogue Free Library, Main
Road, Cutchogue, New York, for a special exception in accordance
with the-~oning'Ordinance, Article IV, Section 408, Subsection
A,. for'permission to retain a hanging'Sign. Locatioh of
property: south side Main Road, bounded north by Main
Road, east by'Sacred Heart'R.C~ Church,property., south by
Beebe Holding Co., west by F~H~ Case.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-
On motion by-Mr. Doyen, seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED THAT THE Southold Town Board of'Appeals set
9:30 P.M. [E.~D.'S,T,), Thursday, June 30, 1966, at the Town
Office, Main Road, Southold, New York, as the time~and place
of hearing upon application of Clayton H. Clarke, North Road,
Peconic, New York, for a special exception in accordance with
the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 300, Subsection 1~
for permission to retain an on premises ground sign. Location
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of property: north side the North Road, Peconic, New York, bounded'
north by A. Petrucci-Ors., east by~S..Sepenoski, south by'North
Road, west by"District~Lir~ _~
Vote of the Board: Ayes:
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by M_r. Hulse, it was
RESOLVE~ that the Southold Town Board of Appeals set
9:45 P.M.(E.D.S.T), Thursday, June 30, 1966, a~the Town Office
Main Road,~ Southold, New York, as the t/me and place of
hearing upon application of Claudio~s Restaurant, 111 Main
Street, Greenport, New York, for a special exception in accordance
with the Zoning Ordinance,~Article III, Section 300, Subsection
10, ~ndArticle IV, Section 408,~ Subsection-A, for permission to
retain off premises directional signs at the following locations:
1) on the property of'S.-Ciacia Estate, located on the north
side Main Road, Greenport, new York, bounded north
east by'Chapel Lane, south by the Main'Road, west by
south by.the Main Road; and 2) on the property of~R. Grattan
Estate, located on the south side'County Route 27~ Mattituck,
New York, bounded north by County Route 27, east'by~Lipco
Road, south by Sound~Avenue, west by'L. Milowski.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- ALL
On motion hymn. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Bergen~ it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals set
10:00 P.~.~.D.S.T.)~ Thursday, June 30, 1966, at the TownOffice,
Main Road,-Southold, New York, as the time and place of hearing
upon application ofLawrence T. Waitz,~ D.V.M., Main Road,
Southold, Ne w York, for a spe~iaI exception in accordance with
the Zoning Ordinance, Article III~ Section 300~ Subsection 7,
for p~rmission to retain an oversized on premises identification
sign. Location of property: north side Mah Road, Southold, New
York, bounded north by'Railroad,' east by-L.P. Booth, south by
Main Road, west by H.M. Cardinal-Railroad.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- ALL
On motion by Mr. Bergen, seconded by Mr. Hulse, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals set
10:10 P.M.[E.'D~'S.'T)~ Thursday, June 30, 1966, at the TownOffice,
Main Road,~ Southold, New York, as the time andplace of hearing
upon application of pi~rest'Dunes, Inc.~ Soundview-Avenue~
Southold, New 'fork, for'a special exception in accordance with
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the Zoning Ordinances_Article III, Sectbn 300,' Subsection 10,
for permission to retain an on premises identification sign.
LocatiOn of property: north side'Sound View Aveneu, Southold,
New York, bounded north by'Long Ista%d~Sound, east by other land
of Pinecrest~Dunes, Inc.~ south by'Sound View Avenue, west by
C.W. Booth Jr., and Ano.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- ALL
On'motion by Mr. Hulse, seconded by Mr. Doyen, it-was
RESOLVEDthat the Southold Town Board of Appeals set
10:20 P~M~ ~%D.S.T), Thursday, June 30, 1966, at-the Town Office,
Main Road, Southold, New York, as the time and placeof-hearing
upon application~of-DavidS. Strong, Camp Mineola Road, Mattituck,
New York, for a special exception in accordance with the Zoning
Ordinance, Article III,-Section300, Subsection 10, Article IV,
Section 408~-Subsection A, for permission to retain offpremises
directional signs'atthe f~llowing locations: 1) On the property
of Malcolm Tuthill, located on the corner of New'Suffolk.Avenue,
and~Camp ~neola Road, bounded north by New Suffolk~Avenue, east
by-CampMineola Road, south by J. Schiller, Jr.,Est., west by
Old J.dle Lane; and 2) on the property'of J, Boucher'Est~, ~ocated
on the east side of the Main'Road, Mattituck, New York, bounded
north by J. Bou=her, J. Wickham, G. Munn & wf., east by G. Munn
and Wf.'Canal, south by'James Creek, Lucas, Fantaleo &.~thers,
west by Main Road.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-'ALL
On motion by'Mr. Doyen~ seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLV~N~ that the SoutholdTown Board of Appeals set 10:35
P~M.(E.D.S.~-), Thursday, June 30, 1966, at theTown'Office, Main
Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place o~hearingupon
appl/cation of Marie Grant~ 75.Cedar Drive,.-Southold, New York,
for a special exception in accordance with'the Zoning Ordinance,
Article III, Section 300~ Subsection 10, for p~mission to retain
a directional sign on the property of~Patrick~Stigliani. LocatiOn
of property: north side Bayview Road,-Southold, New York, bounded
north byJ.-Zebroski-Sch~e, east by James L. Grant, south by Bay-
view Road, west by J. Zebroski.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-'ALL
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On motion by Mr~ Grig0nis, seconded byMr. Gillispie, it was
RESOLVEDthatthe Southold Town Board of Appeals set 10:50
P.M.(E.'D~S~T.),Thursday, June 30~ 1966, at the Town office, Main
Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place of hearing upon
application of Marion L. Szymanski, Strohson Road, Cutchogue~
New York~ for a specialexception in accordance withthe Zoning
Ordinance, Artic~ .III, Section 300, Subsection 10, for~per-
mission to retain a'~ plate sign. Location of property:
corner of Baldwin Place and Little Neck Road, Cutchogue, New
York.
Vote o f~e Board: Ayes:- ALL
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by'Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of'Appeals setll:10
P.M. ~jD.'S.T.'~ , Thursday, June 30, 1966, at the Town-Office,
Main Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place of hearing
upon application ofEdward L. Nidds, Main Road,-Southold, New
York, fora special exception, in accordance with the Zoning
Ordinance. ArtiCle IV, Section 408, Subsection B, for~permiss~on
to retain a wall sign. Location of property: north side Main
Road, Southold, New York, bounded north by Railroad~ east by
Arthur Haan, south by Main Road, west by"E.F. Britz.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:
On motion by Mr. Bergen, seconded by'Mr. Hulse~ it was
RESOLVED that .~the Southold T~ Board of Appeals set-il:20
P~M.(E.D.S.T),~i.- __~2. ~- Thursday, June 30, 1966, at the
Town Office, Main Road,-Southold, New York~ as the time and place
of hearing upon application of Patrick F. Gorman,Depot Lane,.
Cutchgoue, New York, for a special exceptien in accordance with
the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 300~-Subsection 1O,
for permission to-t~ retain off premises directi®nal signs on
the propertyof Frank Machinchich Estate at thefollowing locations:
1) south side Main Road, Cutchogue~ New York, boun~ed north by
~Main Road, east by N.F. Coun~y'Club, south by'Lydia F. Cadugan~
west by'C. Jablonski; 2) on the north side of'Route 27A, Cutchogue~
New York, bounded north by'Alex'Domalieski, east by'Alex Mati~ach,
south by'County Route 27A, west by John Matevieczyk.
VOTE of the Board: Ayes:-ALL
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The next-regular meeting of'the Southold Town Board of
Appeals will be held at Town Office~3 MainRoad, Southold, New
York, on Thursday, June 30, 1966~ at 7:30
The meeting was adjourned at 12:45 am.
Respectfully submitted~
Barbara C. Dittmann~ Secretary
Southold Town Board of Appeals