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MEMBERS
Robert "~/. Gillispie, Jr., Chairman
Robert Bergen
Charles Gresonis, Jr.
Serse Doyen, .Jr.
Fred Hulse,
Southold Town Board of Appeals
SOUTHI]LD, L. I., N. Y,
Telephone SO 5-2660
MINUTES
SO~THOLD TOWN BOARD OF APPEALS
July 28, 1966
~ regular meeting~of the Southold Town Board of Appeals
was held at 7:30 P.Mo, Thursday, July 28, 1966, at the Town
Office, Main Road, Southold, New York.
There were present: Messrs: Fred Hulse~ Jr.,. Actinq Chairman,
Robert Bergen, Charles Grigonis, Jr.
Absent: Messrs: Robert Wo Gillispie, Jrl, ~a~an~. Ser~e
Doyen, Jr.
PUBLIC ~,T~t'G: Appeal No. 917 - 7:30 oMo,~EoD. SoT~), Upon
application of Morrison C. Wines, Hamilton Avenue, ~Mattit~c~,
New York, for a variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance,
Article IV,-~ as it refers to Article III,-Section 303~
and ArticIeX, Section 1000A~ for permission to divideproperty
with insufficient frontage. Location of property: east side
Love Lane, Mattituck~ New York, bounded north byMo'Go Wines~
east by Maiden Lane, south by Railroad~ west byG.Lo~ Penny.
Fee paid $5.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a variance, legal notice of hearing, affidavit attesting to
its publication in the official newspaper, and notice to the
applicant.
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T~E"~= Is there anyone ~resent who wishes to speak
in ~ of this application?
PADLML~PHY~ I am in favor of it.
you have anything to add to the application?
think everything is outlined in the application.
i~he Board andMr. Murphy discussedthe survey of the
property.)
q~~~ Is there anyone ~resent-~ho wishes to speak.,
against-this application?
~(~here was no response.)
T~EC~HIP~LN: Would any member of the Board like to ask
any questions of Mr. Murphy?
MR. BER~EN~ ~r. Murphy, you are interested in purchasing
~his property?
'Yes.
MR. BER~: Do you purchase the right of way also?
'MR.' Ml~...mH'¥: X purchase the right of waym howeverm everybody
ham'.& right to use it.
Are there any other Huestions?
~(~Fnere was no response. )
After investigation and inspection the Board fin~s that
the appeIlant.wishes to divide property wfth insufficient
frontage,,-There is a right of way that runs along the easterly
si~e of the~operty. Both parcels created by this divl~Lon
have ample area for two building lots. The Board fin~s that
~is is a unique situation in view of the fact that't~is par=el
of land has frontage on two established s~reets. , ~he BoaTd finds
that this parcel of l~nd is situated in a c~bined business and
resi~ential ~Lst=ict and any use made of the property wonld in
no way~nge the character of the district.
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The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance
will produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created is unique and would not be shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property
and in the same use district~and the variance does observe the
spirit of the Ordinance and will not change the character of
the district.
On motion by Mr. Bergen, seconded by Mr. Grigonis~ it was
RESOLVED that'Morrison C. Wines, Hamilton Avenue, Mattituck,
New York, be granted permission to divide property as applied
for~on property located on the east side of' Love Lane, Mattituck,
New York~ bounded north byM2G. Wines, east by Maiden Lane, south
by Railroad, west by G.L.- Penny.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Hulse, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Grigonis.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 918 - 7:40 P.M,'~.D.S.T.), Upon
application of StanleyCorwin, Esq., Greenport, New York, a/c
Elpineke Kralides, East Marion, New York, for a variance in
accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 303,
for permission to construct a dwelling on a lot with insuffieient
area. Location of property: north east corner or'Cedar Drive
and Stars Road~ East Marion, New York~ bounded north byStamos~
east by_Frumenti, south by'Stars Road, westby Cedar Driv~
Fee paid $5.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a variance, legal notice of hearing~ affidavit attesting to
its publication in the official newspaper~ and notice to the
applicant.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
in favor of this application?
STANLEY'CORWIN,ESQ.: Mr. Chairman~ and Gentlemen of the Board~
my name is Stanley Corwin. I would like to appear on record in
favor of this application and say to you that there is very'little
I can add to what is on the application. Also I would like to
say to you that Mr. Stamos is an artist that built his house on
stilts just north of this property. He acquired the property
to the north in 1954. That parcel was roughly 200 feet north
and south and 122 feet east and west. For protection he subsequently
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brought this parcel that is 120 feet by 100 feet. There was
no improvement made on ~uis property. On the other parcel he
erectedbis residence. He s~ld the parcel north of this to
a third party. He got itfrom Mrs. Edna Brown. Candidly
he sold the parcel back as he got it, although it was lacking
some 500 feet. I ask you act~favorably on this because it
is on a corner. The building on the Stamos property to the
north of this is sufficiently far enough from the n~therly
line so there is no question about the distance between the
two buildings. There will be no hardship as far as aceess
is concerned. We don't doubt that Stamos created the hard~hip
himself, but we plead on his ignorance and the fact that he
sold the property as he bought it.
THE CHA~: Is there anything else?
(,There was no response.)
MR. BERGEN: The fact that its a corner lot is one of the
reasons we don't like to go along with it. You would have to
maintain the 35 foot setback from each road. Therefore, you
can't build the type of house you would like.
STANLEY'CORWIN, ESQ.: We would like to point out to you
this area is adjacent to Star's Subdivision where there are
a ,number of summer homes, small one family dwellings, that
are not all year around dwellings.
MR. BERGEN: We can't do anything about the small dw~lings
that are already there. We can prevent the construction of more
small dwellings.
STANL~Y~'CORWIN',ESQ.~: The reason for the minimum lot size
is notconcerned with the size of the building. You have minimum
front, side and rear yard area, but the Town has not adopted the
State Building Code. If you require a certain number of'feet,
we can comply with all the zoning regulations and build on this
lot. Another reason for the minimum number of square footage
is for access for fire fighting apparatus. There will be no
problem with that here~
THE CHAIRMAN: Does Mr. Stamos still own this property?
STANLEY'CORWtN, ESQ.: No, he sold it to a third party.
THE CHAIRMAN: Actually, he was in viiation by selling this
to the other people.
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THE CHAIRMA~ There could be no side yard variances granted
for this property.
STANLEY'~C~RWIN,ESQ.-: We realize that.
.THE CHAIRMAN: That is one of the conditions that we always
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make~n undersized lot.
STANLEY~CORWIN~ESQ.: That is a reasonable restriction and
we dOn't have any objection to it.
THE CHAIRMAN: Are there any other questions2
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that the
appellant-wishes to build on a lot with insufficient area. The
lot in question has a total of 12,000 square feet of area~ which
is 500 feet-less than required by the Southold Town Zoning Ordinate.
ThePBoa~d finds that the property in question was sold to the
appellant exactly as it was acquired by the seller. The area
adjacent to the lot in question is built up with residence that
all have sufficient side yard area. If a variance was no-granted
for the use of this undersized lot, the propertywould be useless
as a building lot. The~-erection of the proposed house on this
lot will not change the character of the neighborhood in any way.
The Board finds that strict application of-the Ordinance
will produce practical difficulties or unnecessary-hardship;
the hardship created is unique and would not be sharedby all
properties alike in the immediate vicinityof this property
and in the same use district; and the variance does observe
~=k~J~?~ the spirit of the Ordinance and will not change the
character of the district.
On motion'by Mr. Hulse~ seconded by Mr. Bergen, it-was
RESOLVED that Stanley'Corwin~ Esq., Greenport, New York,
a/c Elpineke Kralides, East Marion, New York, be granted permission
to construct a dwelling on a lot with insufficient area. Location
of property: north east corner Cedar Drive and Stars Road, East
Marion, New York. This permission is subject to the following
conditions:
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1. There shall be no side yard variances granted for any
house built on this lot.
2. There shall be no front yard variances granted for any
house built on this lot.
3. There shall be no rear yard variances granted for any
house built on t~is lot.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Hulse, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Gr~onis.
PUBLI~ P~.A/{ING: Appeal No. 919 - 7:50 P.F~(E.D.S.T.), Upon
application of Roland Bollman, Beebe Drive and Antler'Lane,
Cutchogue, New York, fora variance in accordance with the
Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 300, Subsection 6, and
Article ITT, Section 304, for permission to build an accessory
building with reduced setback. Location of property: south
west corner of Antler Lane and Beebe Drive, Lot number 26 in
Moose Cove Estates, Cutchogue, New York, Fee paid $5.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing byreading the application
for a variance, legal notice of hearing, affidavit attesting to
its publication in the official newspaper~and notice to the
applicant.
THE CHAIRMA~I: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application?
MR. BOLLMAN: I do.
THE CHAIRMAN: Do you have anything to add to the application?
MR. BOLLMAN: I have a garage there now, but it is on a
slope and I gan't get to it in the winter.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone else present who wishes to
speak forthis application?
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Is 'there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no response.)
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THE CHAIRMAN: Would any member of the Board like to ask
any questions?
(There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
the appellant wishes to erect a private garage with reduced
setback. The Board fin~s that-the appe~lant's lot is an
exceptionally deep lot and slopes from the ~0ad down to the
creek. The proposed garage will be located on the north
west corner of the premises and will be setback approximately
25 feet from Antler'Lane. This proposed garage will be the
last possible building before the turn around at-the end of
the street. The proposed garage will not change the character
of the neighborhood in any way. ~ ·
The Board finds that s~rict~application of the Ordinance
will produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created is unique and would not be shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinityof this property
and in the same use district; and the variance does observe
the spirit of theOrdinance and will not change the character
of the district.
On motion by Mr. Bergen~ seconded by Mr. Grigenis~ it was
RESOLVED thatRoland Bollman, Beebe Drive and Antler'Lane,
Cutchogue, New York, be granted permission to erect a private
garage with reduced setback as applied for on property located
on the south west corner of Antler~Lane and Beebe'Drive, lot
number26 in Moose Cove Estates, Cutchogue, New York.
Vote.of the Board: Ayes:- Mr~ Hulse, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Grigonis,
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 920 - 8:00 P.M.'(E.D.'S.'~), Upon
application of Browns Hills~ Inc., Private Road, Orient, New
York~ for a special exception in accordance with the Zoning
Ordinance, Article III, Section 300, Subsection 9, for permission
to retain area identification and name plate sign at the entrance
to Brown Hills, located on the north side Route 25~ Orient,
New 'fork, bounded north by Long Islamd Sound, east by Ruth
Young~ south by Main State Road, west by J. B. Droskoski Est.
Fee paid $5.00.
The Chairman;opened the hearing by reading the application
for a variance~ legal notice of hearing, affidavit attesting to
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its publication in theofficial newspaper, and notice to the
applicant.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
in fair of this application?
DOUGLAS ROBERTSON: (President of Brown Hills, Inc.) : We
would like to keep the sign up there where it is because of
the topography of the land. We have n o other place to put
the sign. This road is only two rods wide.
CHAIRMAN: Is this sign in the highway?
MR~ ROBERTSON: I think it is back from the highway. There
was a corner monument there and it was setback further than
that monument.
HOWARD TERRY~Building Inspector: It is set'back out of the
highway.
THE CHAIRMAN: '~hat is the size of the sign?
MR. ROBERTSON: The sign is 3½ feet by 5 feet. It's two feet
above ground level. It is constructed of frame work of cedar post.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone else present who wishes to
speak for this application?
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
the appellant requestpermission to retain an area identification
sign. The sign in question is three and one half feet i(3~) by
five (5) feet. The sign in question is located at the edge of
the private road leading into Browns Hills~ and there is insufficient
property to make the,required setback. The Board further finds
that there is a high bank on the ns th side of the Main Road,west
of the private road which would hide the sign entirely if a deeper
setback were imposed. The Board is of the opinion that the ss
requested is a necessity to the people who live in Browns Hills,
and for people visiting the residents in Browns Hills. The sign
is also necessary for delivery men and drivers of emergency vehicles
looking for people in the Browns Hills area.
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The Board finds that the public convenience and welfare
and justice will be served and the legally established or
permitted use Of neighborhood property and adjoining use
districts will not be permanently or substantially injured
and the spirit of'the Ordinance will be observed.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. H~lse, it was
RESOLVED that Browns Hills, Inc., Private Road, Orient,
New York, be granted permiss~n to retain an area identification
and name plate sign at the entrance to Browns Hills, located
on the north side of Route 25, Orient, New York~ subject to
the following conditions:
1. This sign shall be granted forone year only~ renewable
annually upon written application to the Board of Appeals.,
2. This sign shall be subject to all subsequent changes in
the Southold Town Zoning Ordinance as it applies to signs.
3. This sign shall be erected at least one (1) foot from
the Main State Highway property line.
4. This sign shall be erected at least two (2) feet above
ground level.
Vote of the Bo~d: Ayes:- Mr. Hulse, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Grigonis.
PUBLIC P~.ARING: Appeal No. 921 - 8:05 P.'M.'i(E.D.'S.'T.)~ Upon
application of Gulf Oil Corporation, P. O. Box 128, Oceanside,
New York, for a special exception in accordance with the Zoning
Ordinnance, Article IV, Section 408, Subsection A, for permission
to retain pole sign with insufficient setback at the Gulf~Ser~ue
Station located on the north west corner of Route 25 and Cox
Lane, Cutchogue, New York, bounded north by J. Pietrewicz, east
by Cox~Lane, south by Main Road, west by J. PietreHicz. Fee
paid $5.00.
The Chairman opmned the hearing by reading the application
for a special exception, legal notice of hearing, affidavit
attesting to its publication in the offic~l newspaper, and
n~ice to the applicant.
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THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to
speak in favor of this application?
STANLEY'KRAZENSKI: In this particular case the setback
is okay from the front-property line. It is not okay from
the side property line. If it was moved'further in there
would be a hazard of cars backing into it.
MR. BERGEN: I have been down there an looked the situation
over. I think we will be willing to go along with the sign
with the provision that you put the milk.machine back further.
STANLEYKRAZENSKI: I understand thatthe milk machine is
going to be moved out of there completely.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present-who wishes to speak
against this application?
i(There was no response)
Are
THE CHAIRMAN: x~ there any questions
to ask?
the Board would lib
~There was no response.)
After investigation and inspectinn the Board finds that
the appellant request permission to retain a pole sign with
insufficient setback. The pole sign is setback sufficiently
from the highway, however, it is not set far enough away from
the side property line. The Board finds that the location of
the building on this corner lot makes it impossible to maintain
the five (5) foot distance between the side property lines.
The Board finds that the public convenience and welfare
and justice will be served and the legally established or
permitted use of neighborhood proper~ty and adjoining use
districts will not be permanently or substantially injured
and the spirit of the Ordinance will be observed.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Bergen~ it was
RESOLVED that Gulf Oil Corporation, P.O. Box 128, Oceanside,
New York, ~e granted permission to retain a pole sign with
insufficient setback atthe Gulf"~'Se~vice Station located
on the north west corner of Route 25 and Cox Lane, Cutchogue,
New York, subject~ however, to the following conditions:
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1. This sign shall be granted for one (1) year only, renewable
annually~ upon written application to the Board of Appeals.
2. This sign shall be subject to all subsequent changes in
the Southold Town Zoning Ordinate as it applies to signs.
3. This sign shall be located at least five feet from the
~x highway property line and atLleast one foot from the
side property line.
4. The present milk vending machine located on this property
must be removed or relocated to be setback behind the present
pole sign.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Hulse~ Mr. Bergen, Mr. Grigonis.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 922 - 8:15 P.M.(E~D.S.'T.), Upon'
application of Gulf~Oil Corporation, P.O. Box 128~ Oceanside,
New York, for a special exception in accordance with the
Zoning Ordinance, Article IV, Section 408, Subsection A, for
permission to retain a pole sign with insufficient setback at
the gulf~Ser~ice Station located on the north side Main Road~
Southold, New York, bounded north by'F.H. Sayre, east~by
F.H. Sayre, south by Main Roads west by F.M. Blaschach. Fee
paid $5.00.
~ne~Chairman opendd the hearing by reading the application
for a special exception, legal noticeof hearing affidavit attesting
to its publication in the official newspaper, and~notice to the
applicant.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application?
STAb/LEYiKRAZENSKI: In this particular case if we moved
the sign back any furhter it would not be visible at all.
THE CHAIRMAN: In this particular case this sign over hangs
the side walk. That is definitely not allowed. There is nothing
we can do for you in this case. We can't grant signs on public
property or to overhang public property. You ~Xmight turn
the sign around or you might put the sign on the other side.
STANLEY KRAZENSKI: There are big trees in that area. The
sign would not be visible.
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BERGEN: The sign only shows from the East now.
MR. KRAZENSKI: If we moved it back it would not show from
either direction.
THE CPL%~: A side variance we can grant. But we can
not grant permission fora sign to overhang-on public property.
(The Board and Mr. Krazenski discussed the possibllity~of
turning the sign so that the top of the sign does not overhang
public property.)
T~E CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
one way or the ~Y other on this application?
~There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
the appellant request'permission to retain a pole sign with
insuffiCientsetback. The Board finds that the top part of
~this sign~ overhangs public property. The Board p~ints out
that they have no jurisdiction to grant permission for a
sign to overhang"p~blic property. As a solution to the
problem, the appellant may leave the pole in its present
location and turn the top part of the sign so that it does
not project over the sidewalk.
The Board finds that the public convenience and welfare
and justice will' not be served and the legally established or
permitted use of neighborhood property and adjoining use
districts will be permanently or substant~lly injured and the
spirit~of~the Ordinance will not'be observed.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Bergen, it~was
RESOLVED that Gulf~Oil Corporation, P. O. Box 128, Oceanside,
b~ew York, be denied permission as applied for to retain a p~le
sign with insufficient set back. However, the Board of Appeals
does grant permission to Gulf Oil Corporation to leave the pole
in its present location and reverse the top part of the sign
so that is does not overhang public property. Location of
property: north side Main Road, Southold, New York. This permission
is granted~subject to the following conditions:
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1. This sign shall be granted for one ~(1) year, renewable
annually, upon written application to the Board of Appeals
subsequent
2. This sign shall be subject to all w~~k changes
in the 8outhold Town Zoning Ordinance as it'applies to signs
Vote of the' Board: Ayes:- Mr. Hulse, Mr. Bergen,~Mr. Grigonis.
PUBLIC ~ING: Appeal no. 923 - 8:30 P.M. ~.D.'S2T.), Upon
application of Fisherman's Beach, Nassau Point, Cutchogue, New
York, for a special excep~on in accordance with the Zoning
Ordinance, Article III~ Section 300, Subsection 10, for permission
to retain an area identification andre plate signs on the property
of William Johnston. Location of property: E. 60 feet of lot
number 32 and all of lot number 33 in Peconic Bay Prop.~ Inc.,
Subs.~ (Fisherman's Beach), Cutchogue~ New York. Fee paid $5.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a special exception~ l~gal notice of hearing, affidavit
attesting to its publication in the official newspaper, a nd
notice to the applicant.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
in favor of tbJ~ application?
HOW~{D BIGG: I speak in favor of it. We need it for
identification purposes. Its three and one half feet off the
existing road, with permission of the lot owner. With your
permission we ~ld l i~e to keep the sign there.
THE CHAIRMAN: We need a letter of permission from the
owner of tt~ lot.
~ BIGG: You can have that.
THE'CHAIRMAN: How far is this sign from the property line?
~OWARD BIGG: It is three feet from the propertyline. Six
and one half ieet'from the private road. From your road it
would be about 18 feet.
(Mr. Bergen suggested that for the safety of the residence
in the Fishermanls Beach area that the sign be moved back a
little furthe~.)
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THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(The~e was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
the appellant request permission to retain an area identification
and name plate signs on the p$operty or'William Johnston. The
appellant does not have a letter ofconsent from Mr. Johnston,
however he stated this will be forth coming. Mr. Johnston is
one of the residence identified on the area identification
sign in question. The Board points out that this type of
sign is~necessary for the drivers o~tdelivery trucks
drivers of emergency vehicles, alsoT~s ~elpful to friends
and relatives that are visiting the reside~sof the Fisherman's
Beach ARea.
The Board finds that the public convenience andwelfare
and justice will be served and the legally established or
permitted use of neighborhood property'and adjoining use
districts will not be permanently or substantially injured and
the spizitof the Ordinance will be observed.
On motion by Mr. Hulse, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED that Fisherman"s Beach, Nassau Point~ Cutchogue,
New York be granted permission to retain an area identification
sign on the property of'William Johnston~ subject-to the
following conditions:
1. This sign shall be granted forone ~1) year only, renewable
annually upon written application to the Board of Appeals.
2. This sign shall be subject to all subsequent changes
in the Southold Town Zoning Ordinance as it~ applies to signs.
3.T his sign shall be located at least fime (5) feet from
any property line.
4. This sign shall be located at least three (3) feet above
ground level.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Hulse, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Grigonis.
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PUBLIC ~ARING: Appeal No. 924 - 8:40 P.'M.~(E,'D.'S%'T.), Upon
apPlication cf Camp Immaculata, Peconic Bay Blvd.~ Mattituck~
New York~ for a special exception in accordance with the
Zoning Ordinance, Article III~ Section 300~ Subsection 10,
for permission to retain a directional sign on the south
west corner of Main Road and Bray'Ave~ne, Mattituck, New
York, bounded north by Main Road, east byBray~Avenue, south
by'K. Tuthill, west byeS. Kander.
The chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a special exception, legal notice of hearing~ affidavit
attesting to its publication in the official newspaper, and
notice to the applicant.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone pre sentwho wishes to speak
for this application?
MI{. M,UTEL: This sign is on the highway property. Now, what
can be done?
THE CHAIRMAN: It has to be moved onto private property.
the first place you are liable to a legal suit if someone
should hit this sign and get injured. You will have to get
pe~uission from the ~ owner Of the lot on the corner.
MR. MUTEL: This sign was put up years ago.
THE CHAIRFaa~: Who's property did you think this sign was on?
MR. MUTEL: Mr. ~ander~s. This sign was there long before
me. I went to these people and asked her fora letter. She
siad she had to consult her lawyer. He advised her not to
write the letter. I asked the Sister to go to these people
and see what .could be done. They s~id they had no objection to
the sign being there.
THE CHAIRMAN: Would the Kanders let you put a sign on their
property?
MR. MUTEL: We didn't get to that.
THE CHAIRMAN: Well you better get to that. We will not
permit you to put a sign on public property. We agree you
need this sign. I think we will adjourn this hearing until
you get a letter of permission from the propertY'~owner.
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On motion by'Mr~ Hulse, seconded by Mr. Grig.his, it was
RESOLVED that-Appeal number 924, upon application of
Camp Immaculata be adjourned ~w~ until 9:00 P~M~', Thursday,
August 4, 1966.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- F~r. Hulse, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Grigonis.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 925 - 8:50 P.M.i(E.-D.'S.T.), Upon
application of:Camp Immaculata, Peconic Bay Blvd,, Mattituck,
NeW York, for'a special exception in accordance with the Zoning
Ordinance~ Article IV~ Section 408~ Subsection A, for permission
to r~tain an on premises ground sign with insufficient setback.
LOcation of property: north side Pecon/~Bay Blvd., Mattituck,
New York, bounded north by Henry~Pollak, east'by L. Ellen and
ors., south by"Peconinc Bay Blvd., west by Brayley~and ors.
Fee paid $5.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading application for
a special exception, legal notice of hearing~'affidavit attesting
to its publication in the official newspaper, and notice to the
applicant.
THE CHAIRMAN': Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
.for this application?
MRi MUTEL: I do.
'THE CHAIRMAN: How far is this sign setback from t~e property
line.
y~- MUTEL: Thr~e or four feet.
HOWARD TERRY, Building Inspector: The sign is in the road.
THE CHAIRMAN: Could you put this sign back five feet from
the property line?
MR. MUTEL: The sign w~dn't be seen. How far are we now
from the property line?
H(FWARD TERRY: The sign is right in the road ~Hx now.
THE CHAIRMAN: You have alotof property there, I think you
could set this sign back five feet.
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HOWARD TERRY: If~he set it back five feet it would be
in the trees. Its right near the gateway. If the set it
on top of the hedge it eould be seen from both ways.
THE CPL%IRMAN: Would that serve you prupose?
MR. MUTEL: In the hedge?
HOWARD TERRY: No, projecting above the hedge.
MR. MUTEL: I guess that would be ~}~-~ alright.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anlone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
,(There was no response,)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
the applicant request permission to retain an on premises
identificatimn sign with reduced setback. The Board finds
that if this sign was set back the required five feet it
would be hiden by trees and therefore be of no value to the
wpp~w~'appellant. The Board finds that the sign could
be setback in line with the present hedge at the camp~ and
the sign could be set above the present hedge so to be
visible from both directions.
The Board finds that the public convenience and welfare
and jmMtice will be served and the legally established or
permitted use of neighborhood property and adjoining use
districts will not be permanently or substantially injured
and the spirit of the Ordinance will be observed.
On motion by Mr. Bergen, seconded by Mr. Hulse, it was
RESOLVED that~Camp Immaculata, Peconic Bay Blvd., Mattituck~
New York, be granted permission to retain an on premises ground
sign with insufficient setback on property located on the north
side of Peconic Bay Blvd., Mattituck, New~ork, subject, however,
to the following conditions:
1. The sign shall be granted for one (1) year only, renewable
annually upon written application to the Board of Appeals.
2. The sign shall be subject to allsubsequent changes in
the Southold Town Zoning Ordinance as it apl~ies to signs.
3. The sign shall be setback out of the highway property
~uaat least one foot behind the property line.
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Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Hulse, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Grigonis.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 926 - 9:00 P.M.'i(E,D.~'S.T.), Upon
application of Camp Molloy, Main Road, Mattituck~. New York,
for a special exception in accordance with the~Zoning Ordinance,
Article IV, Section 408, Subsection A, for permission to retain
on premises ground signs with insufficient-set back. Location
of property: northside Main Road, Mattituck~ New York~ bounded
north by Lmurel Lake~ east by C has.-A.. Price and ors., south
by Main Road, west by'J. Stokes, - Town of Southold. Fee paid
$5.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing b y reading the application
for a special exception, legal notice or-hearing, affida~vit
attesting to its publication in the officical newspaper, and
notice to the applicant.
(Mr. Mutel asked that if he could have a sign at this
location which stated the name of the camp and also s~ated
that the next right turn would be for' Camp Immacutata. The
Boar~ advised him that if this was not planned for this year,
he should wait untilnext year and then make application
for the type of sign he wants.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to
speak in favor of this application?
MR.' MUTEL: I speak in favor of it.
THEiCHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
in opposition to this application?
[There was no response. )
THE CHAIRMAN: The shoulder of the State highWay'at this
point is about thirty feet wide. There is a buffer zone between
the highway'and the camp property line. 'This~sign would not
be a hazard to the travelling public.
Arethere any other questions the Board would like to ask?
CThere was no response. )
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After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
the appellant request permission to retain an on premises
ground sign with insufficient setback. The Board finds
that this sign is for the identification of a boys camp,
and the sign is necessary to the parents visiting or bringing
children to the camp. If the sign was setback the required
five feet it would be hiden and of no value to the appellant.
The Board finds that the public convenience and we%~re
and justice will be served and the legally e~tablished or
permitted use of neighborhood property and adjoining use
districts will not be permanently or substantially injured
and the spirit of the Ordinance will be observed.
On motion by Mr. Hulse~ seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED that~Camp Molloy, Main Road, Mattituck, New
York, be granted permission to retain an on premises ground
sign with insufficient-setback on property located on the north
side of the Main Road, Mattituck,~ New York, subject to
the following conditions:
1. This sign shall be granted for one el) year only, renewable
annually upon written application to theBoard of Appeals.
2. This sign shall be subject to all subsequent changes in
the SoutholdTown Zoning Ordinance as it applies to signs.
3. This sign shall be located at least two ~R) ~eet from
any property line.
4. This sign shall be located at least two ~) feet above
ground level.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Hulse, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Grigonis.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 927 - 9:10 P.M.~CE.D.S.T.), Upon:
application of'Mattituck Theater, Main Roa/d, Mattituck, New
York, for a special exception in accordance with the Zoning
Ordinance~ Article IV, Section 408, Subsection 7, for permission
to retain two on premises ground signs. Location of property:
east side Main Road, Mattituck, New York, bounded north by
Hedwig Kander, east~byA.W. Boucher Est., south by George
W. New~ll, west by Main Road. Fee paid $5.00.
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The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a special exception, legal notice ofhearing, affidavit
attesting to its publication in the official newspaper, and
notice to the applicant.
THE ~{~IRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
in favor~of this application?
LLOYD LINDS~Y: I do.
TME'CHAIRMAN: Do you have anything to add to-the application?
LLOYDLINDSAY: This sign is essential to our advertising.
There isn't'anything else I can add.
THE CHAIRMAN: The signs are three sided. Each pane of ~w~
glass is three foot by ~our foot. They stand about five feet
off the ground, directly in front of the movie ~theater. Are
they on your own property?
LLOYD LINDSAY: They are on my own proper~y, but~not five
feet back.
MR. BERGEN: They are allowed one wall sign and one ground
si~ here. This additional ground sign will give a little
protection to the entrance to the theater.
T~E CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
~There was no response. )
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that'the
appellant request permission to retain an additinnal ground sign
at the MattitUck Movie Theater. Both ground signs sh'owD the
movie c~rrently being shown and the coming attractions. An
additional ground sign is~e'ssential to the appllca~t~s advertising.
The Board points out that the entrance to the movie theater is
protected by these two ground signs from any vehicle traffic.
This the Board believes is in the interest of the public safety
of the Town.
The Board finds that the public convenience and welfare and
justice will be served and the legally established or
p~rmitted use of neighborhood property and adjoining~3~ use
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districts will not be permanently or substantially in~ured
and the. spirit of the Ordinance will be observed.
On motion by Mr. Bergen, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED that'Mattituck, Theater, Main Road, Mattituck, New
York, be grantedpermission to retain two on premises ground
signs on property located on the cast-side of Main Road, Mattituck
New York, subject, however, to the following conditions:
t. The sign shall be subject to all subsequent changes in
the Sou~hold Town Zoning Ordinance as it applies to signs.
2. The sign shall be granted for one (i) year only, renewable
annually upon written application of the Board of Appeals.
3. The sign shall be set'at l~ast eighteen inches (18.") from
ground level.
4, A reduction in setback from the property line is given,
however, the sign must be setback on the appella~nt's property.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Hulse, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Grigonis.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 928 - ~ 9:20
Upon application of the First Baptist~Church, Greenport, New
York, for a special exception in accordance with the Zoning
Ordinance, Article IV, Section 408, Subsection A, for permission
to retain a directional sign on the property'of Suffolk'Outdoor
Advertising'Co., Inc., located on the southwest corner of the
North Road and Main Street~ Greenport, New York, bounded north
by Main Road, east by Main Street, south by-C. Henkel, west by
Eugen W. Mazzafe~ro. Fee paid $5.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing byreading the application
fora special exception, legal notice of'hearing, affidavit
attesting to itspublication in the official newspaper, and
notice to the applicant.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
in favor of this application?
JOHN S. SHERWOOD: I am the Chairman of the Board of Trustees.
We would like to keep the sign. It is twelve inches by eighteen
inches~ attacted to the large billboard owned
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THE CHAIRMAN: There is a letter ofpermission attached to
the application. There is only one problem. We would appreciate
it if you~would remove the sign from the billboard and put it
on its own post. The billboards are one of the main reasons
for the sign ordinance, the biggest objection to signs is the
billboards. We don't know what is going to happen, but we
would appreciate it if you would put this sign on post'and
put it in the ground.
JOHN S. SHERWOOD: That is agreeable to me.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(,There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that the
appellant request permission to retain an offpremises directional
sign on the property of Suffolk'Outdoor'Advertisingo Said
property owner has given permission for a sign on their property.
This sign is a directinnal sign for a Church which the Bo~d
believes is in the interest of the travelling public. The Bo~d
request that the applicant remove the sign from the large
billboard and put the sign on its own post in the ground.
The Board finds that the public convenience and welfare
and justice will be served and the ~gally established or
permitted use of neighborhood property and adjoining use
districts will not be permanently or substantially injured
and the.spirit of the Ordinance will be observed.
On motion by Mr. Hulse, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED that the First-Baptist Church, ~reenport~ New
York, be granted pemission to retain an off premises directional
sign on the property ofSuffolk Outdoo~A~ertising'Co., Inc.,
located on the southwest corner of the~HRoad and Main
Street, Greenport, New York, subject, however, to the following
conditions:
1o This sign shall be granted for one .(1) year only, renewable
annually upon written application to Be Board of Appeals.
2. This sign shall be subject to all subsequent changes in
the Southold Town Zoning Ordinance as it applies to signs.
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3. This sign shall be located at least five (5) feet from
any property line.
4. This sign shall be located at'least three C3) feet above
ground level.
5. This sign shall be removed from the large billboard
and placed on post of it m~ own and put in the ground.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Hulse, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Grigonis.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal. No. 929 - 9:30 PJM.~.D.S.T.), Upon
application of Mid-Island Lumber and Supply'Co., Inc., 415
Roanoke Avenue, Riverhead, New York, for a special exception
in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section
300, Subsection 10, for permission to retain an advertising
sign on the property of'Martin Weglicki. Location of property:
south side Main Road, Laurel, New York, bounded nerth by
Main Road~ east by Fteischman-~ahn, south by Long Island
Railroad~ west by Chas McNulty'Est. Fee paid $5.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a special exception, legal notice of he,ring, affidavit
attesting to its publication in theofficial newspaper,and
notice to the applicant.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who w~shes to speak
for this application?
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present Who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no response.)
After investigation and inspectiun the Board 'finds that
the applicant request permission to retain an off premises
~ sign on the property of'Martin Weglicki. Said
property owner has given permission for a sign on his property.
This sign is toadvertise the Mid__Island Lu~ber and Supply'Co.
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The Board of Appeals points out that there are no provisions
in the Southold Town Zoning Ordinance for off premises
advertising signs, therefore, the Board has no authority
to grant the type of sign .requested.
The Board find~ that the public convenience and~welfare
and justice willie served and the legally established or
permitted use of nieghborhood property and adjoining~use
districts will not be permanently or substantially injured
and the spirit of the Ordinance will be observed.
On motion by Mr. Bergen, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED that Mid-Island Lumber and Supply'Co., Inc., 415
Roanoke Avenue, Riverhead, New York, be denied permission to
retain ant~advertising sign on the property of Martin Weglicki
on property located on the south side of the Main Road, Laurel,
New York. The sign must be removed from the premises by
September 1, 1966.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Hulse, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Grigonis.
The following letter was written to Mr. Herman Ficken,
Greenport Playohouse, Inc., 163 East Merrick Road, Merrick,
New York:
Dear Mr. Ficken: Upon closer inspection of your sign at
the skyway theater on Route 25, Greenportt New York, it is
believed by this Board that your sign overhangs onto the
State Highway property. It is impossible for this Board to
grant permission for any sign to encroach on public land.
Therefore, it is our s~ggestionthat you obtain a map from
your'surveyor showing the e~act location of your sign in
regard to the State highway line.
I't will not be necessary for you to appear before us again.
You may forward siad survey to this office at your earliest
possible convenience.
Very sincerely, /s/ Fred.E. Hulse, Jr.~ Acting Chairman
Southold Town Board of Appeals.
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PUBLIC HE~ING: Appeal No. 930..- 9:45 P~'M.'(E.D$S.-To)~ Upon
application of Silv.erm~re Bungalows,~ Silvermere Road, Greenport,
New York~ for a special exception in accordance with the Zoning
Ordinance~ Article IV, Section 408, Subsection A, for permission
to retain a directional s~n on the-southwest corner of Main
Road and Silvermere Road, Greenport, New York~ bounded north
by Main Road, eastby Silvermere Road, south by Railroad, west
by Nassau B-rick-Co. Fee paid $5.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a special exception, legalnotice of hearing, affidavit
attesting to tis pu~'lication in the official newspaper, and
notice to the appl~ant/
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present-who wishes to speak
for this application?
~(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Is the~e anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(.There was no response.
FIR.' BERGEN: What is the size of this~sign~
T~E CPtAIRMA~: It is six feet by 9 feet. It was approved
at the time when we were giving larger size signs. It sits
five feet-from both roads. The applicant owns the property'
it sits on. The sign is for a motel type operation~. The
applicant has 10 or 12 units which he rents on a summer
or weekly basis. I am notspeaking for the applicant or the
application.
MR.' BERGEN: The sign is in good condition?
THE CHAIRFR~N: Yes.
appl.icabion?
Is there anything further on this
~There was no response.~
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that the
appellant request permission to retain a directional sign on
his c~n property. The direction sign is for a motel type
operation. The Board %~w~w~k~ believes that this tI~e of
sign is in the interest of the travelling public. The size
of the sign is six feet by 9 feet. It was granted by the o 1
~a~° rdpermi~.of als at the time when a larger directi~na sign
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The Board finds that the public convenience and welfare
and justice will be served and the legally established or
permitted use of neighborhood property and adjoining use
districts will not be permanently or substantially injured
and the spirit of the Ordinance will be observed.
On motion by M_r. BERGEN~ seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED that Silvermere Bungalows, Silvermere Road~ Green-
port, New York, begranted permission to retain a directional
sign on the southwest corner of the Main Road and Silvermere
Road, Gre~nport, New York, subject, however, to the following
conditinns:
1. This sign shall be granted for one (1) year, renewable
annually upon written application to the Board of Appeals.
2. This sign shall be subject to all subsequent changes
in the Southold Town Zoning Ordinance as it' applies to signs.
3. This sign shall be located at least five (5) feet from
any property line.
4. This sign shall be located at least three (3) feet above
ground level.
5, In the event that this sign needs to be replaced, it
shall be re placed with a sign that is no larger than four (4)
feet by six ~(6) feet.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Hulse, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Grigonis.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 931 - 9:50 P~M.i(EjD. S.T.), Upon
application of'WilliamH. Feidler, North Read, Southold, New
York, for a variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinances
Article IV, ~&~ as it refers to Article III, Section 300
Subsection 6, for permission to build a private garage with
reduced setback on the former land of Helmut~ Hass. Location
of property: private right of way off the south side of North
Road, Southold, New York, bounded north by private rightof way-
land of Hass, east by private right-of way-other land of Hass,
south by other landor Hass-Mill Creek, west by Mill Creek-
other land of Hass. Fee paid $5.00.
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The Chairman opened the hearing by.reading the application
for a variance, legal notice of hearing~ affidavit attesting
to its publication in the official newspaper, and notice tothe
applicant.
THE CPL~IRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application?
(There was no response)
T~E CH~/_RMAN: Is there anyone-present who wishes to speak
against this application?
.{There was no response.)
MR. BERGEN: I spoke to some of the neighborh down there
and they have;~ no objectiun to this.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anything else?
.~here was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
the appellant request permission to construct a private
garage with reduced setback. The proposed garage willbe
set 25 feet from the private right of way. This garage
will be of temporary nature to store a automobile in.
The Board points out that the appellant owns the lot
across the road from the property in questinn, however
there is not enough area on the same lot ~ith his d~elling
to construct a garage.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance
will produce practical difficulties or unnecessa~ hardship;
the hardship cretaed is unique and would not be shared.~by
all properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this
property and in the same use district; and the variance
does observe the spirit of the Ordinance and will not change
the character of the district.
On motion by Mr. Hulse, seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED thatWilliam H. Fiedler, North Road, Southolda New
York, be granted permissionto build a private garage with reduced
setback on the former property of Helmut'Hass located on a private
right of way off the south side of the North Road, Southold, New
York. This permission is grante~ for two '(~) years only.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Hulse, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Grigoniso
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On motion by Mr. Hulse, seconded by Mr.. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED that~ the minutes of the' Southold Town Board of
Appeals dated July 14, 1966 be approved as submitted.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-~bir. Hulse, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Grigo~s.
PUBLIC ~ING: Appeal No. 915 - 9:45 P.MJ~E.D.'S,T~), Upon
application of Por~ of Egypt Fishing Station, Southold, New
York, for a special exception in accordance with the Zoning
Ordinance~ Article IV, Section 408, Subsection A, for permission
to retain directional signs at the following locations: 1)on
the property of'Woodhoolow Properties, Inc., on the north east
side of the Main Road and Plum Island Lane, at the Orient by
the Sea Subdivision, Ov~nt, New York; and 2) on the property
of the applicant, located on the south side of ~the Main Road
Southold, New York, bounded north'by Main Road, east'by
Lewis Homes Subdivision, south by Budds Point, west by
Mary Sween~. Fee paid $5.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing~?reading the application
for a speeial exception, legal notice ofhearing, affidavit
atteSting to its publication in the official newspaper and
notice to the applicant.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application?
HERMAN'LEIBLIEN and'WII~/AM'LEIBLIEN: We both speak for
the application.
THE~CHAIRFR%N:~Bo you have anything to add to the application?
HERMAN'AEIBLIEN: It is all stated there.
THE CH~: Have you put up the directional sign in
O~-nt yet?
HERMAN r.W. IBLIEN: No.
THE CHAIRMAN: Where do you propose to put this sign. Is it
going to be in line with their sign?
Mr. William Leiblien described the location of the sign in
regard to the other sign located on this property° The sign
will be put in the same location as it was last year.
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BERGEN: What does it say on this sign?
WILLIAM LIEBLIEN: Portof E~[yptof Orient, Boats, Bait, etc.
THE CHAIRMAN: We don'thave a letter of permission from the
property owner where the sign is located.
HERMAN AIEBLIEN: We will bring it i~.
THE'CHAIRMAN: I believe the sign is setback 23 feet from the
property line, the subdivision sign. Your sign is. in front of
the bushe~. You can set your sign five feet f_rom the property
line. You are within the size allowed for a directional sign.
HERMAN-L/EBLIEN: We only put the sign out when we are there.
THE CHAIRMAN: Thzs sign is okay. As far'as the other sign
is concerned .... what is the size of that sign ?
HERMAN'LEIBAIEN: I don't'know. Whiterspoon put it-up.
THE CHAIRMAN: It looks about 20 feet by 30 feet something
like that.
HERMAN-T~RBLIEN: It~the same size as the other billboards.
THE CHAIRMAN: We are not able to grant permission for a
sign that size. Off premises signs are limited to four feet
by six feet. That is all we can grant.
HERMAN-LEIB~I~N: This is notoff premises. I own that
property.
THE CHAIRMAN: It is not the property on which you conduct
your business.
HE~ LEIBLIEN: I own thatproperty. Just because a road
~m~ goes throug~ the property .... If we put a four by six sign
up there no one will see it. We will be out of.business. We
need that sign that 'is why.we are ~ here asking for a special
exception.
THE CHAIRMAN: We can not grant you a sign that size. We can
grant you a four foot by six foot sign.
HERMANLEIB~!RN: We are not interested in a four foot by six
footdirectional sign.
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THE CHAIRMAN: That is the size sign that everyone is
granted.
HERMAN'LIEBLIRN: We spenthundredsof dollars on this sign.
That is no an,.eyesore.
THE CHAIRMAN: We do not have the authority to grant a sign
that size.
HERMAN v.W. RBLIEN: That sign is my li~lihood.
THE CHAIRMAN: We do not have authority to grant permission
for it.
Is there anyone else wish to speak for this application?
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
the appellant request permission to retain an off premisds
directional sign on the property of~Woodhoolow Properties,
Inc., at Orient. The appellant stated that a letter of
permission for the erectiQn of said sign will be forthcoming.
The Board finds that this~ directional sign for a fishing
station On-Long Island Sound. The Board believes that this
sign is in the interest of the travelling public.
The Board further finds that the applicant request permission
to retain a billboard directional sign on his own property in
Southold. The Board points out that the size sign requested
by the applicant Ss not permitted and the Board has no authority
to grant the size sign requested. The Board is willing to
$ive the appellant permission to erect a four (4) f~ot by
the ~ sign is located. However, the billboard will
have to be removed.
On motion by Mr. Bergen~ seconded by Mr. Grigonis, ~t was
RESOLVED that the Port of Egypt Fishing Station, Southold,
New York, be granted permission to retain a directional sign
on the property of Woodhollow Properties, Inc.~ located on the
north east side of the Main Road and Plum Island Lane~ at the
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Orient-By the Sea Subdivision, Oreint, New York, subject to
the following conditions:
1. This sign shall be subject to all subsequent changes
in the Southold Town Zoning Ordinance. as it applies to signs.
2. This sign shall be granted for one year only, renewable
annually upon written application to the Board of Appeals.
3. This sign shall he,located at least five (5) feet from
any property line.
4. This sign shall~be located at least three (3) feet abova
ground level.
5. This sign shall be no larger than four (4) feet by six (6~)
feet.
ITWAS FURTHER RESOLVED that~Sm~ the Port ofEgypt, Southold,
New ; York, be denied permission to retain a billboard sign on
the property of'the.app!ica~t6.Southo~d, New York. This billboard
w' t . Ot
may be replaced mth a four~y slx~mgns which would subject
to the same conditions set forth for the above sign.
Votea of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Hulse, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Grigonis.
PUBLIC HEARINGA Appeal No. 916 - 10:00 P.M.'~E'~D,~S.T.), Upon
application of Port ofEgypt, ~outhold~_New York, for a special
exception in accordance with the ZoningSrdinance, Article IV~
Section 408, Subsection B &.C, for permission to retain an on
premises wall sign and an on premises roof~sign. L~cation of
property: south si~e Main Road,-Southold, New York~ bounded north
by Main Road, east by Lewis Homes Smbdivision, south by Budds
Pons, west by Mary~Sweeny. Fee pai~ $5.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a special exception, legal notice of hearing, affidavit
attesting to ~s publication in the official newspaper, and
notice to the applicant.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyune present who wishes to speak
for this application?
(There was no response.)
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THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this applieation~
~There was no response.)
Afeer investigation and inspection the Board finds that
· the appellantrequest permission to retain on premises signs.
On the tower located on the premises there are three signs.
These are located to be visible from both thehighway~and
Peconic Bay. The size of these signs are three feet, four
feet and six feet in diameter. The Board is of the opinion
that'these signs are an~ incidental to the use of the property.
On the motor shop and ~ait and-~k tackle shop on the premises
there are two four foot by 16 foot signs on the roof of
the buildings. These signs are not oversized-~ ~- -~ ~-~-
for the size of the building, however they do exceed the
thirty inches in height permitted for roof signs by the
Southold Town Zoning Ordinance. These signs are located
approximately 450 feet off the old Main Road and therefore
.need to be visible from the highway. The Board believes
that these signs are in the interest or'the travelling public.
The Board finds that the public convenience and welfare
and justice will be served and tbs legally established or
permitted use of neighborhood propertyand adj~oining use
districts will not be permanently or substantially inJ~ze~
and the spirit of the Ordinnar~ will be 0bser~ed.
On motion by bit. Bergen, seconded ~i~-~Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED that the Port'of'Egypt, $outhotd, New York, be
granted permission to retain on premises signs as applied for
on property located on-the south side Main Road, Southold,
New York,subject~to the following conditions:
1. These signs shall be granted for one year only,
annually upon.written application to the Board of Appea]
2. These signs shall be subject to all subsequent changes
in the $outhold Town Zoning Ordinance as it applies to signs.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Hul~, Mr.'Bergen, Mr. Grigonis.
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The next regular meeting of the Southold Town Board of
Appeals will be held at 7:30 P.'MJ'~ Thursday, August 4,-1966,
at the Town Office, Main Road, Southold, New York.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:30 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Barbara C. Dittmann~ Secretary
Southold Town Board of Appeals