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APPEAL BOARD
MEMBERS
Roberf~ '~'. gillispi¢, Jr,, Ch~irm,m
Robert BerBen
Charles greBonis, Jr.
Serse Doyen, Jr.
Fred Hulse, Jr.
S~UTHOLD T~WN BOARD OF APPEALS
December 15, 1966
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Board of A~eal.s
was held at 7:30 P.M., Thursday~ December 15, 1966, a~the
Town Office, M~inRoad, S®uthold, New York.
There were present: Messrs: Fred Hulse, Jr., Ac ~t~.~. 'g C-hairman;
Robert Bergen, Charles Grigonis, Jr., Serge Doyen, Jr.
Absent: Mr. Robert W. Gillispie, Jr., Chairman.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 994 - 7:30 P.M.:~E~S.~O, Upon
application of StanleyCorwin, Esq.~ a/c Helmu% Has's, Southoid.
New York~ for a variance in accozdance with the Zoning ordinar~e,
Article. III, Section 303, Article X, Section 1000A, for permission
to divide property: and for recognition of access in accordance
withthe State of New York~Town Law, Section 280A. Location of
property: east side private road (Beverly Road~, Southold~
New York, bounded north by land of Hass and Fieldler, east by
Ruch~ south by Arshamomaque Pond (Mill CreeK), west by, private
road (Beverly Road), Fee paid $5.00.
TheChairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a variance, legal notice of hearing~ affidavit attesting
to its tf01ication in the official newspaper, and notice to the
applican%.
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THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to~speak
in favor of this application?
STANLEY~'CORWIN, ESQ.: Mr. Chairman, I think this Board is
familiar with this situation. You did anticipate this application
coming in. I think you know the reason for it, why we are asking
for it. On the east sideof Beverly Road there are tkree houses.
We are not asking for the crowde~ conditions on the other side.
Also take considerationtthat this is in a business district, it
is zoned for business. Take into consideration the fact this is
a summer colony. Other than that, I have nothing else to add.
THE CHAIRMAN: Anyone wish to speak in opposition to this
application?
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Are there any questions from the Board?
MR. BERGEN: I l~oked over this property and think it should
be granted as asked for.
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
the appellant requests permission to divide property and create
two u~dersized lots and requests approval of access on a private
right of way to serve the second lot created. The Board finds
that.one of the lots to be created will have an area of 9500 square
feet; the other lot will have an area of 9460 square feet. Both
lots are in keeping with the size of the other lots in the
immediate area. The Board points out thatthis is a summer
colony. The Board further points out there is ~ublic water
availabt~to these lots.
The Board finds that the right of way to be created will
be 20 feet wide for a lenght of 75 feet; for the remaining 75
feet of the right of way it will be 10 feet wide. This right
of way will be subject tothe-final appro~al of the Southold
Town Building Inspector.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance
will produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created is unique and would not be shared by all
properties alike inthe immediate vicinity of this property and
in the same use district; and the variance does observe the
spirit of the Ordinance and will not change the character of the
district~
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On motion by Mr. 'Bergen, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED that StanleyCorwin, Esq.~ -a/c Helmut Hass,
Southold, New York, be granted permission to divide property,
and granted recognition of access on property located on .the
east side of a private road (BeverlyRoad), Southold~ New York~
as applied for on the application to the Board of Appeals,
application dated Decmmber 1, 1966; and as shown on the su=vey
map by'Otto Van Tuyl and Son, map dated' December 9~ 1965.
This approval is granted subjectto the following condition:
The proposed right of way shall be subject to the final
approval of the Southo~d Town Building Inspector.
Ayes:
Vote of the Board~F~r. Hulse, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Grigonis,
Mr. Doyen.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 995 - 7:40 P.M.'(E.S.T.),.. Upon
appl£catlon of George Wetmore, a/c Ilie Waes, and Werner Rosenberg,
Greenport, New York, for a recogniti~ of access in accordance
with Jthe State of New York Town Law, Section 280A. I~cationof
property: east side Light house Road, Southold, New York.~ bounded
north by J.H. Lind, east by Wiegand, south by B. ~ T. Enter, Inc.
w~est by Light'house Road. Fee paid $5.00.
The chairman opened the hearing by reading the applicabion
for recognition of access, legal notice of hearing, affidavit
attestiug to its publication in the official newspaper, and
notice to the applicant.
The Chairman briefly explained the nature of~the application.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who Wishes to speak
in favor, of this application ?
GEORGE WETMORE: The road we have taken up with Mr.-'Schroder
and agreed to put a twenty foot road in~ere and put oil~etc, on
it. As the lots are sold they are deeded to the middle of the road
so that they will take care of it.
THE CHAIRFa%N: Is there anything else~
(There was no response.)
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THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone presentwho wishes to spmk
in opposition to this application?
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Are there any questions from the Board?
(There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
the appellant request approval of access to serve four interior
lots to be craated . The proposed right of way will be 30 feet
wide and approximately 450 feet long. Each lot will be deeded
15 feet of the right of way and it will be the bt owners
responsibility to maintain the right of way. The Board points
out that all of the lots created on this rightof way are well
in excess of the 12,500 square feet. required by the Southo~d
Town Zoning Ordinance.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance
would produce practical difficulties and unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created is unique and would not be shared by all
properties alike in the immed/ate vicinity of this ~lropertyand
in the same use district and the variance does observe the
spirit of~e Ordinance and will not change the character of
the district.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Doyen, it was
RESDLVED that George Wetmore, a/c I/~'Wacs, andT~r
Rosenberg, Greenport, New York, be granted recognition of
access on property located on the east s/de of Light house
Road, Southold, New York, as shown on the sur~ey map b~
Otto Van TUyl and Son, map dated November 21, 1966.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Hulse, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Grigonis~
Mr. Doyen.
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PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 996 - 7:50 PoMo~i(EoS.T.)i, Upon
application of A. Reilly~& Sons, InCo, Shore Acres, ~attituck,
New York, for a special exception in accordance ~ith'the Zoning
Ordinance~ Article III, Section 300, Subsection 10, for permission
to retain the following signs: 1) sign located on the north side
Cox Neck' Road and Bergen~Avenue, Matt~uck, New York, bounded north
by John and Rose Koroleski~ east by Cox Neck ROad, south by Bergen
Avenue, west by Hubbard; 2) sign located on the north side Bayview
Drive and Cox Neck Road, Mattituck, New Yor~, bounded north by
McGunnigle, east by Shore Acres Subdivision~ south by Bayview
Drive, west by Mill Road. Fee paid $5.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a special exception, legal notice of hearing, affidavit
attesting to its publication in the official newspaper, and
~_~t~i~ t t he appl~canto
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
in favor of this application ?
NORMAN. RETT~LY: Yes. We need these signs. We are in a
remote area° The signs have been there for at least fifteen years.
one being on Middle Road, w~h we will remove and relocate in the
Riverhead area. The other two signs are three inches high and
three feet long. They are directional signs in 'the form of an
arrow° We can tell the folks if they turn down on-Cox Neck Road
and they will see these sign and bring them to our place of business.
Other than that, we are three miles fromthe main partof Town and
pretty hard for them to find USo Alot of these drivers are from
the city and west end and the drivers aren't familiar with the
area. Many of our customers come out on Sunday to our place of business
and it is pretty hard toget directions to our home. They will call
and I can tell them' to l~ok for these signs. I have permission
from one of the property owners at the Bergen Avenue sign. The
other one on Sound Avenue, the owner is away and I haven't been
able to contact him at the moment. That is about all I can say.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anlo ne else present who wishes to
speak in favor of this application?
(There was no responses)
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present, who wishes to speak
against this applicatinn?
(There was no response°)
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THE CHAIRMAN: We have nothing to say aboutwhat the Ordinance
says, but to uphold it.
NORMAN REILLY: That is your feeling?
THE CHAIRMAN: Just mine. They set a precedent and we would
have to continue this. There are many contractors that don't
have property on the main highway. If we ~ve one, we would have
to give to all of them.
MR. DOYEN~ We don~t have any choice in the matter.
NORMAN REILLY: You can set precedents.
MR. DOYEN: If we set precendent in this case there is no
reason to d~undreds of others. This doesn't fall within the
precedent laid down for us to follow. We are much reluctant
to have to do this. It is not within our province to grant this
no matter how much we sympathize with you.
THE CHAIRMAN: Are there any other questions?
(There was. no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board. finds that
the appellant requests pearmission to retain two directional
signs, off premises. The appellant is a building contractor.
The Board finds that the signs in questions are small armored
approximately three inches ~igh by three feet long. The~Olnts
out and refers to a policy set up by the Board in May of 1958,
which~was to be Used as a guide for off premises signs. Said
guide stated that the purpose of such a sign must be directional
in the public interest or convenience as distinguished from
signs advertising the sale of products or merchandise. Signs
advertising types ofbusinesses which provide food, shelter and
amusement for the public are deemed in~e public interest and
convenience.
The Board finds that the public convenience and welfare
and justice will not be served and the legally established or
permitted use of neighborhood p~operty and adjoining use
districts will be permanently or substantially injured and the
spirit of the Ordinance will not be observed.
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On motion by Mr. Hulse, seconded~by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED that A. Reilly & Sons, Inc., Shore Acres, Mattituck,
New York, be denied permission to retain the following signs:
1) sign located on the north ~de Cox Neck Road and Bergen Avenue,
Mattituck, New York; 2) sign located on the north side Bayview
Drive and CoX Neck Road, Mattituck, New York, as applied for
on the application to the Board of Appeals, application dated
November '18, 1966. Said signs shall be removed thirty days .(30)
from January 5, 1967.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Hulse, Mr. Grigonis, Mr.~Doyen.
~ay: - Mr. Bergen
PUBLIC ~EARING: Appeal No. 997 - 8:10 -P.M...~E.S~T. ), Upon
application of Lloyd Dickerson, Main Road, Mattituck, New York
for. a special exception in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance
Article IV, Section 408, Subsection ~) and (c), for-permission
to retain a roof sign and-walt sign. Location of property: south
side Main Road, Mattituck, New York, lot number east two thirds
'(2/3) of' Two and Three in Mattituck Park~ Properties, Mattituck,
New York. Fee paid $5.00.
The Chairman opened-the hearing by reading the application
for a special exception, legal notice of'hearing, affidavit
attesting to its publication in the official newsp~Der, and
notice to,he applicant.
THE'CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application?
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present, who wishes to speak
against'this application?
(There was no response.)
Afterinvestigation and inspection the Board finds that
the appellant request permission to retain a side wall sign
and a roof sign. The Board points out thatMr. Dickerson
has agreed to forego his right to anon premises ground sign
which he is entitled to under'the present'Zoning Ordinance.
~he Board finds that one sign is lighted, approximately two
and one half feet (2~') by four feet' (4~'), mounted on the roof.
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-The sign~ set-well baek from the property tine and overhangs the
appellant's~n property. The Board finds that the sign on the face
of the building is the name of the business, which is the only
advertising sign the appellant has.
The Board finds that the public convenience and welfare and
justice will be served and the legally established ~ or permKtted
use of neighborhood property and adjoining use districts williet
permanently or substantially injured and the spirit of the Ordinance
will be observed.
On motion by M_r. Bergen, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED that Lloyd Dickerson, Main Road, Mattituck, New York,
be granted permission to retain a roof sign and wall sign on the
building on Property located on the south side of the Main Road,
Mattituck, New York, as applied for on the application tothe Board
of Appeals, application dated November 18, 1966. This permission
is granted subject to the following conditions:
1. The wall sign is granted in lieu of an on premises ground
sign.
2. Both signs shall be subject to all subsequent changes in
the Southold Town Zoning Ordinance as it applies to signs.
3. Both signs shall be granted for one year only, renewable
annually upon written application to,he Board of Appeals.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Hulse, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Grigonis,
Mr. Doyen.
PUBLIC ~F~ARING: Appeal No. 998 -8:25 P.M.'i(E.S,T.)I, Upon
application of Philip W.- Abatelli, Main Road,- East' Cutchogue,
New York, for a special exception in accordance with the Zoning
Ordinance, ~rticle III, Section 300, Subsection i0, for permission
to retain an off premises directional sign on the property of
Albin Pietrewicz, located on the south side Middle Road, Cutchogue,
New York, bounded north by Middle Road-Butler, east by Butler-Borawa~
south by J. Pietrewicz-Borawa, west by. Wickham Estate-Krupski.
Fee paid $5.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a special exception, legal notice of hearing, affidavit
attesting to its publication in the official newspaper, and notice
to ~he applicant.
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The Chairman read the following ~tter:
"November 19, 1966
"To Whom it~May Concern:
"This letter-will authorize PhilipW.. Abatelli to act for
me in appeal violation order for Zoning Ordinance, Article X,
Section 1002, advertising sign is mounted and displayed
on the westerly side of 'farm building s/s Middle Road (CR 27)
and W/ Cox Lane, Cutchogue, Suffolk~ County, N~T.
"/s/ Albin Pietrewicz, Owner"
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present whowishes to speak
for this application?
STAN~YWAIMEY: I am.employed by M_r.~Abatelli. He asked
me to appear for him. The sign has been there for the five
years that I have worked for him. It is on the barn of
Albin Pietrewicz. This is located on the Middle Road and Cox
Lane which leads directly to our office which is on the Main
Road. I have asked every customer how they found our offiCe.
Whether it was from a newspaper ad or someone told them about
use or what. Many have come in because they saw our sign. It
is attached to the barn. It doesn't project'out into the line
of vision of traffic. It is not-visibleatnight, only during
the day hours. It is only visible to east bound traffic.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone else present who wishes to
speak for this application?
(There was no response.)
THECHAIRMAN: Is there anyone presentwho wishes to speak
in opposition to this application?
(There was no response.)
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THE C~A~: Do any members of the Board ~k~x~ to make
any comment?
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: This sign falls into the exact same catagory
as Mr.. Reilly's sign. Real estate advertising signs are not permitted
except on lots, acreage~ or buildings that are for sale. There
are no provisions in the'Ordinance for real estate advertising or
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directiona~ signs. The only way you can legally display a sign
on this property is if it is for sale and than the sign could
not be directional. We have denied many such signs. There is
absolutely no waywe can legally give permission for this sign.
STANLEY-WAIMEY: Have you made any exceptions at all?
THE CHAIRMAN: None at all?
STANLEY W-AIMEY: Than why have the hearing?
T~E CHAIR/~N: Itis your ~Y~ privilege to have a hearing.
STANLEY-WAIME¥: Under any conditions would a variance be
granted for a sign like this directional sign.
'THE CHAIRMAN: None I can think of.
S~N~YW~IMEY: That is your official policy.
~ MR. DOYEN: You come in for a directional sign that-falls
within the precedent or'this Board. If~it doesn'~t fall
why come before this Board? This is 'the first step if you"W~nt
to ~ake 'legal action against this. You get an interpretation
of the Ordinance. That is one of the reasons why we have'the
hearing. Anyone can apP!~"hear for anything. That-doesn't mean
we are going to g~ant certain things.
STANLEYWAIMEY: My livingdepends on selling property. There
are other ways of cOntrolling s~g~s.
(The Chairman again explained why real estate off premises
signs are not permitted.)
STANLEY.~AIMEY~ This is a main road. This sign.beautifies
~he barn2 The sign makes it attractive.
MR. BERGEN: The real estate people have a betterbreak
than any one else. You can put signs on property that is for
sale.-
STANLEY~IMEY: We don't-dothat. When you have five
or six places up for sale, if we put signs on it, that would
be worse.
MR.-DOYEN: This has been studied for hundreds and hundreds
of hours. This would be a precedents
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THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anything else?
(There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
the appellant-requests permission to retain an off premises
directional sign on the property of Albin~ietrewicz. Said
owner of property has given permission for sign on his
property. The appellant is in the business of selling real
estate. The Board points out that any real estate dealer
may display a sign on any property that is for sale or
for rent. The Board points out and refers to a policy set
up by the Board in May of 1958, which was to be used as a
guide for off premises signs. Said guide stated that the
purp6se of such a sign must be directional in,the public
interest or convenience as distinguished from signs
advertising the sale or products ormerchandise. SigDs
advertising types of~businesses Which provide 'food, shelter
and amusement~ for the public are deemed in the public
interest and convenience.
The Board .finds that the public convenience and welfaze
and justice will not be served and the legally established or
permitted use of-neighborhood property and adjoining use
districts will be permanently or substantially injured and the
spizit of the Ordinance will not be observed.
On motion by M_r. Hulse, seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED that Philip W. Abatelli, Main Road, East'Cutchogue,
New York, be denied permission to retain an off premises directional
sign on the property of'Albin Pietrewicz, located on tbs south side
Middle Road, Cutchoug% New, York, as applied for on the application
to the Board of Appeals, application dated November' 21, 1966.
Said sign shall be removed from the premises within thirtydays (30)
~w from. January 5, 196~
Vote of the Board: 'Ayes:- Mr. Hulse, Mr. Bergen, Mrs. Grigonis,
Mr. Doyen.
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PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 999 - 8:35 P.M..~E.S.'T~)~ Upon
application of Harold R. Reeve, &-Sons, Inc., Main'Road,
Mattituck, New York, a/c Mattituck'Laundromat, Middle Road,
Mattituck, New York, for a special exception in accordance wit~
the Zoning Ordinance, Article IV, Section 408, Subsg~tion ~)
for permission to retain side wall signs._ Locatinn~roperty:
north side Middle Road, Mattituck, New YOrk, bounded north by
MattituckCreek, east by Wickham Avenue, south by Middle Road,
west by Maiden~Lane. Fee paid $5.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the appl~ation
for a special exception, legal notice of'hearing, affidavit
attesting to its publication in the official newspaper, and
n~ice to the applicant.
THE'CHAIRMAN; Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
in favor of this application?
~%ROLD REEVE,JR~': Of course.
THE CHAIRMAN: Do you have anything to add?
HAROLD' REEVE, JR: I don't think so.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there an!one present who wishes to speak
against this application?
[There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: There is no ground sign on the premises.~ On the
east side of 'the building it says half hour laundry. The one on
the other side of the building is painted on, well back from the
road. If. the applicant agrees to forego his right to a ground
sign we can grant the sign on the side of the building.
HAROLD REEVE, JR.: That would be acceptable.
THE CHAIRMAN: The sign on the east side of the buiding is
small painting. It does not advertise anything, it simply gives
information.
MRS' DOYEN: It is still a sign.
THE CHAIRMAN: That is true. You could place that small sgin
on the the west side or keep the sign that ~ on the west side of
the building. You can have only one side wall sign and the sign
on the front of the building.
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HAROLD REEVE, JR: That~is acceptable.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anything else?
(There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
the appelant requests permission to retain one side wall sign
and one front wall sign on the building. The building in
question is a laundromat. The Board points out there is no
ground sign displayed at this place or'buShess, an~e
appellant is agreeable to forego his right to a ground sign
in order to d~splay'a wall sign. The Board points out that
the sign on the front of building is not visible until ~mw
· one is directly in front of the laundromat.
The Board~ finds that the public convenience and welfare
and justice will be served and the legally established or permitted
use of neighborhood property and adjoining use districts will not
be permanently or substantiallyinjured and the spirit of the
Ordinance will be observed.
On motion by Mr. Hulse, seconded by Mr. Bergen~ it was
RESOLVED that Harold R. Reeve & Sons, Inc., Main Road,
Mattituck, New York, a/c Mattituck~Laundromat, Middle Road,
Mattituck~ New York, be granted permission to retain one
side ~all sign and one front wall sign on the premisss
located on the south side ~iddle Road, Mattituck, New York,
subject to the following conditions:
1. ~l~ sign~ shall be granted for one year only,, renewable
annually upon w~itten application to the Board of Appeals.
2. ~Jsign~ shall be subject to all subsequent changes
in the $ou~hold Town Zoning Ordinance as it applies to signs.
3. The appellant agrees to forego his right to an on
premises ground sign and thus erect a wall sign. This may
be changed at a future date if the appellant so desires.
4. The small sign on the east side of the building shall
be removed withincthirty ~(30) days from January 5~ 196~,~
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Hulse, Mr, Bergen, Mr. Grigonis,
Mr.~ Doyen.
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PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 1000 - 8:45 P,M.(E..S,T.), Upon
application of Charles Dougherty, d/b/a/ Teves Realty, North Road,
Southold~ New York, for a special exception in accordance with
the Zor~g Ordinance~ Article IV, Section 408, Subsdction (a), for
permission to retain an om premises identification sign with
insufficient setback. Location of property: south side North road,
Southold, New York,. bounded north by Ncr th Road, east by J. Poliwoda~
south by B. Schwartz, west by V. Ruch. Fee paid $5.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a special exception, legal notice of hearing, affidavit
attesting to its publication in the official newspaper, and
notice to the applicant.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak in
favor of this application?
CHARLES DOUGHERTY: I do.
THE CHAIRMAN: Do you have anything to add to the application?
CHARLES DOUGHERTY: No.
· HE CHAIRMAN: Anyone else wish to be he~d in favor of this
application?
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone prese~ t who wishes to speak
against the application?
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIPu~AN: Do any members of the Board wish to make any
comment?
MR. BERGEN: The sign is partly on the highway n~w/
THE CHAIRMAN: The sign~ out~beyond your property line. We have
no authority to grant a sign on State, Federal or Town property. We
can give you permission for this sign on ~our own property.
CHARLES~DOUG~ERTY: We are in a residential area and that sign
has been there since 1947. I think we can enlarge tha~% sign in
accordance with the Zoning Ordinance. The only thing I want to
do is keep the sign I now have. We still get people coming off the
highway. As the law says I. co~ld.make_a ~si~ six feet six i~ches
high by twe~e feet six incnes wi~e. ~ Gon ~ want 'to do-tha .
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But if I have to move it back and lose the~lue of the people
on the highway, then I will have tomake the Sig~ bigger. People
go through there at 70 and 80 miles an hour. I don't want to
put up a monstrosity.up there. I would like to ~eep the sign
where it is.
THE CHAIRMAN: We don't have the~q~W~vto grant any signs
on the Town Property.
CHA~?.~S DOUGHERT¥: I have been in this business for 20 years.
In the same office. I have done my best to bring good people into
this community, good paying people. If I have to move this sign
back it will lose it's~at~e.
THE CHAIRMAN: We don't have the power to grant a sign on Town
property. You have business property here. You can get the sign
back five feet-from the property line and have a single or double
face sign.
CHARLES DOUGHERTY: My-primaryobjective with business property
ina residential zone is not-to show a sign six feet~six inches by
12 feet six inches. I don't want to do this.
THE CH~TRMAN: You can set the sign back five feet any place
you wish.
A discussion was held on whether or not a new permit would
be required for the relocation o fthe present sign. The appel~mt
was advised that the only permit that would be required would be
a regular sign permit which is issued by the building inspector
if the sign meets all the required regulations.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anything else?
{There was ~response.)
AFter investigation and inspection theBoard finds that the
appellant requestpermission to retain an on premises identification
sign with insufficient setback. The appellant'is in:the real
estate buR.iness. The appellant's property is zoned "B"'Business
District and is Surrounded by "A" Residential and Agricultural
District. The Board finds that t?~sign presently projects beyond
the property line. The Board points out they-do not have authority
to grant signs on Federal, State, or Town property. The Board finds
there will be no hardshipinvolved for the appellant~to move the
sign back the required five feet.
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The BOard ~i~ds that the public convenience and welfare
and justice willie served and the legally established or permitted
use of neighborhood property and adjoining use districts will ~
be permanently_o~ substantially injured and the spirit of the
Ordinance willie observed.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED thatCharles Dougherty, d/b/a Teves Realty, North
Road, Southold, New York, be denied permission to retain an
on premises aidentification sign with insuffic/~t setback as
applied for on the application to the Board of Appeals, application
dated November~21, 1966. The sign shall be relocated to be at
least five ~) feet from theproperty line.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Hulse, Mm. Bergen, Mr. Grigonis,
Mr. Doyen.
PUBLIC ~ARING: Appeal No. 1001 - 8:55 P.M.~(E.S.~.), Upon
application of Charles Dougherty, d/b/a Teves Real~y, North Road,
Southold, New York, for a special exception in accordance with
the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 300, Subsection 10,
for permission to retain the following~off premises signs: 1) a
sign on the property of Muznic EState, located on-the south side
Main Road, Cutchogue, New York, boundednorth by Main'Road, east
by Linden Avenue, south by North Fork'Co., west by W.H. Wickh~m~
Wm. Baxter; 2) a sign on the property of'Surozenski, located on the
south side Main Road, Southold, New York, bounded north by Main
Road-Surozenski, east by Hunter-Lehr, south by L. Howell, west by
Mokus; 3) a sign on the property'ofH. Zaveski, located on the south
side North Road, Peconic, New York, bounded north by-MiddleRoad,
east by E~G. Horton-Dist~Line, south by'Long Island Railroad, west by
Suffolk'County~Property; 4) a sign on the property of the applicant
north side North Road, Southold, New York, bounded north by'Long
Island Sound, east by'Cummings~ south by North Road, west by
Cummings. Fee paid $5.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by readingthe application
for a speical exception, legal notice of hearing, affidavit
attesting to its publication in the official newspaper, and
notice to the applicant.
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THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
in favor of this application?
CHARLESDOUGHERTY: I still do.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak, against
this application?
~(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Any member of the Board wish to say anything?
MR. BERGEN: They are off premises and they are not allowed. They
are advertising signs.
THE CHAIRMAN: Does anyone else have comments or questions?
MR. GRIGONIS: This goes back to setting a precedent.
CHARLESDOUGHERTy: Three of these signs are directional signs
and the once across the street from the office Us on property that
we own.
THE CHAIRMAN: The only real estate signs that are allowed off
premises are on property.which is for sale. If any of this property
is for sale ............
ARNOLD LARSEN: We know that. Why would we make this application
unless we thought'it would be acceptable to you. This whole thing
is a farce.
THE CHAIRMAN: I can't answer that question.
ARNOLD'LARSEN:- Well somebody should answer it.
MR.- DOYEN: That's a good question. You went to the Building
I. nspector?
ARNOLD LARSEN= Yes.
MR. DOYEN: Imll tell'you why we do get these applications.
Because the building inspector tells them no. It is your privilege
to apply if you so elect. He should tell them of the Board's
policy and they can plan their actions accordingly. I appreciate
your feeling in the matter. If you came to the building inspector
and he told you no ~ and you believed him that would be it unles you
wanted to go to the court and then start w~th us~ and go up higher/
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MR. DOYEN: In the normal course of e~ents if. the building
inspector said no, I don't know why youwould be here, or anyone
else.
ARNOLD LARSEN: I don't know why.we are here.
MR. DOYEN: Who made the application?
ARNOLD'LARSEN: Mr. Doyen may I ask you a question? How many
meeting of this Board have you been to in the last year?
MR. BERGEN~ That has nothing to do with this application?
AR~OLD'LARSEN: It ~oes to me. Very much so. It has alot
to do with it. Because he has explained all these things to me
that I don'texplain at'all Mr. Bergen. This is extraneous to my
thinking. The way he is expressing himself tonight. This is tom-
fo61ery for us to show up here to make application and there is
no discussion form this Board except it is contrary to the rules
we know perfectly well, and then you as heading up this Board
tonight state real estate is allowed so many signs on property
that is for sale. We know all of that. We are no ~mb bells.
/We are being made fools of. And Mr. Doyen, I still want to know
how many meeting of this Board you have attended in. the last year.
MR. DOYEN: You ask the secretary. I don't know if it was 6~8,
10, 12 or 15. The secretary has the records. I don't know%hat it
has to do with this.
ARN, OLD LARSEN: It has alot to do with me.
MR. DOYEN: What lead you to make the application. I would
like to get to the bottom of this. No one should come in here
and feel that they are being made fools of.
ARNOLD L~RSEN: We felt that if we applied it would be accepted
or rejected on certain grounds. Thee is no grounds, no objections.
MR. DOYEN: To prevent this in the future, Mr.~ Dougherty~ why
did you make the application?
MR. DOUGHERT~: I got a letter from the building inspector that
siad these signs were out of order and if I wanted to make application
to retain them I should come do, here. I came do~m and mad~the
application. I understood at the time if it was approved it would
only be for one year. I a]3so know that when the Zoning Ordinance
was built, went into effect, it ran its livelihood. I know there
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alot~of objection to it on the part-of the people who are gainfully
~-p~ employed~ I haven't seen this many signs go up in the
area sincd zoning went in. I have not had anyone come into either
of our offices, and I operate two, and say this town is lovely except
for your signs. The only objection I see on the sign here is number
one it was written into the Ordinance, if you want to go ~ack that
far. We went down to the high school one night. Nobody could read
it~and vote on it. That was too much. But that is over the dam.
We are endeavering to mske a living and do business. ~hen we get
through you are going to tell me to take all my signs down and go
home - in essense.
MR. DOYEN: Yes, I.suppose so because of the limitations imposed
upon us by procedure and Ixecedents.
~ DOUGHERT¥: By procedure and precedent is probably the way
to say ~t. On the other hand I firmly believe that this fellow
sitting at this table are not'really figure heads. You must have
some reason to say' this is why the Board says this. You must have
some r~ to s~t here and judge and justify and if these things
are obnOXiOus an~ hurting people, and all of this then give us a
good reason why the are and get them down. I won't even give you
30 days. There must be some reason why you turn around and saY'we
do feel hotels, motels, and restaurants need signs.' I know they
need them. I know I need them because the North Road used to be
King's Highway, then it became the North Road, then Route 27, and
then Norm Klipp came along with Route 27A. People don'tknow where
we are because the road .isn't even marked' right. I need signs.
MR. DOYEN: What you say Ia~ aware of, I have spent hundreds
ofhours iist~nin~ to business people-who need signs. I a~e theY'need
signs. Anybody in Business needs signs. You go back to the beginning
andS_he ~.m~Ll~ philosphy of all ~this sign andI it is reflected in
the Ordinance, that means you will have to limit signs. You di~ln't
answer the question or'why did you make the application and why you
feel you camshere for no purpose at all. We can .not grant these signs
because of limitatiens imposed upon us. We only grant directional
signs that are in the interest oflthe traveling public and public
interest and this hasb~ construed to mean hotels, motels, ......
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MR. DOUGHERTY: I came down here because I was told I had
certain signs that-were out of or,er. I went out and measured
these signs and they were six feet by four feet, set back
sufficient, except for the one you talk about that is once
highway. The~were not advertising property for sale, they
were advertising a way to reach an office.
(Mr.-Doyen explained the normal procedure of filing an
application with the Board of Appeals. Mr~ Doyen also pointed
out that because of cases in the past, which are on record, the
appellant.should have come before the Board realizing that the
type of'~ that was requested was not generally approved.)
MR. DOUGHERTY: The point remains I came down here because I
felt that the Board~uld have something to say about it. They
knocked it off before I came in here. This was all cut and dry.
THE CPIAIRMAN: Ail signs were to be taken down within five
years. If this was carried out and everybody removed these signs
the signs could be placed at certain points.
MR.- DOUGHERTY: I don;t think it is fair'for you to say this
is out. I know you people put alot of time into this.
ARNOLD'LARSEN: I do think the time you people put in is wasted.
All you have to say is have Howard Terry tell us that directional
signs are for hotels, motels and restaurants.
MR. DOYEN: That is the point I was trying 'to make.
MR.' DOUGHE~RTY: In the meantime we have gone ~k through
all of this., I am not Eure if you have made your final remarks,
but every sign we have applied for is down, out.
THE CHAIRMAN: Except the one on premises.
MR. WAIME¥: I assume Mr. Abatelli is going to take this to court.
I want the record to show that you stated that you did not have power
to authorize this sign.
THE CHAIRMAN: By precedents that have been set up.
MR~ WAIME¥: You did not say precedent, you said the law did
not authorize you anything, you had to deny the application. On the
othe~-~he form that we got stated specifically that if we sort
relief~ I don't know the exact words, it impl~d that if we filed an
application for a variance with the Board together with the $5.00
feet we would be heard and given an opportunity to have the sign
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approved. This was the implication. However~ ifwe go back to
what you stated that you did not have the authority and that ~
why I have said you are figure heads.
THECHAIRNAN: By past precedents thathave~bemn set up.
MR. WAIME¥: I am not~rying to make' any legal stahements.
I am just trying to get it on the record thatCthis is ~m arbitrary
to require us to file an application together'with a $5.00 fee,
come down here and spend time and the$ you say you have no
authority by precedent or law or whatever. My.understanding of
an Appeal Board of any kind is that you have authority in cases
ofhardship, Now your definition of hardship may be that-I am
not entitled to a living and therefore it doesn't matter.
believe I am, I believe I ~pay taxes here and I Should' have the
right to make a living here.
THECHAIRMAN: I don't believe that-was stated. That a sign
wasn't~required for your living. We don't feel that anyone
doesn't have the right-to make a living.
MR.WAIMEY: The implication is there when you state that a sign
is not,required for my living. In essense it was implied.
T~E CHAIRMAN: The reason was all signs were suppose to be
removed. The signs were to come down within five years ~time. At
the end of that perio~if the signs were removed as they w~re
suppose to have been the Board saw fit for some reason or another,
they didn't enforce it, and now they have decided to enforce .it.
MR. RADFORD: As I understand it the Board looks in the friendly
view on Certain types ofbu~ess ~here they have actually granted
signs after the Ordinance~ They.designate the tYPe'of~business they
will recognize and are against other'type of business. This I
think is unreasonable.
MR.. DOYEN: ~his is a very reasonable outlook for anyone that
is in business and needs a sign~ and perhaps doesn;t look as if they
are favored like any other business. The reasoning and philosphy
behin~ this for granting of signs is in the best interest of the Town
and people of the Town and those using the Town.-And in the best
interest some directional signs were allowed for public convenience
and was meant to mean lodging and food and perhaps amusement to
some degree. Those business that f~l into this catagory look
favored to ~J~w~ all others. Not'that all others don'tfeel that
they need signs. As far as the Town;~e signs, the people, only
the public convenience in the best interest of the Town were considered
and that was tomean food and lodging.
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MR. DOUGHERTY: Let me leave you with a final thought. I think
this goes for'all you members of the Board here. The. real estate
~ business in this community~ a .g~owing community, and they
have to come out-here. I happen to thin~, and I am predjudice
because I have put 20 years into it in this community~ I happen
to think its a very important phase of this community Whether
youbelieve or not. And you should believe it.
MR.~ DOYEN: I am in agreement with you. And to get .relie~,
they are drawing up the Master Plan which will take in changes
in the Zoning. Your'place is to start now and go to the Town
Board and get ~ctuded in this.
MR~ DOUGHERTY: The only'thing I am disappointed in, in
being here this evening, is that for some reason you fellows don't
want to accept any responsibility, orcan't accept any, one
or the other. This is not a Board of Appeals, it's a come in~ sit
down and go Out.
MR4 DOYEN: I don't agree with you ......
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anything further?
(There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that the
appellant requests permission to retain fouroff premises directional,
advertising signs. The ~p,~ appellant is in the real estate
business. The Board points'out that any real estate dealer may
display a sign on any property that is for sale-.~r for rent. .The
Board points Out and refers to a policy set'up by. the Board in May
1958, which was to be used as a guide for off premises signs. Said
guide statedthat the pub~ose of such a sign must be directional
in the public interest or convenience as distinguished-from signs
advertising the sale of products or merchandise. Signs advertising
types of business which provide food, shelter and amusement ]for
the public are deemed in the public interest and~onvenience.
The Board finds that the public convenience andwelfare and
justice will not be served and the legally established or permitted
use of n~ighborhood property-and adjoining use districts will be
permanently or substantially injured and the spirit of the Ordinance
will not be observed.
On mo~ion by Mr. Hulse, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
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RESOLVED thatCharles Dougherty, d/b/a Teves Realty, North
Road, Southold,'New York, be denied permission to retain the
foilowing off premises signs: 1) a sign on the property'of Muznic
Estate, located on the south side Main-Road, Cutchogue, NewYork;
-2) a sign on the property of Surozenski, located~on the south side
Main Road, Southolds New Yor~-~) a sign on the property of~X A.
/~Zaveski, located on the south side North Road, Peconic, New
York; ~E 4) a sign on the property of the applicant, north side
North Road, Southold, New York, as applied for'on the application
to the Board of Appeals, application dated November 21, 1.966.
The signs shall be removed within 30 days from January 5, 196~.~
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Hulse, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Grigonis,
~kr. Doyen.
On motion by Mr. Hulse, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it w~'
RESOLVED that application number 1002, upon application of Matti-
tuck Lanes, Main Roads Matt~tuck, ~ New York, for a special exception
in accordance with the Zoning Ordinances Article IV, Section 408,
Subsection (b), for permission to retain a side wall sign, Location
of property: south side Main Road, Mattituck, New York, lot numbers
103 and 104 in.Mattituck Park~Properties, Mattituck, New York, be
postponed un~il later .in the eyeing in view of the fact there is
no one present to speak for or against the application.
vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Hulse,Mrl Bergen, Mr.. Gmigon~ ,
Mr. Doyen.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 1003 - 9:25-P.M~E. jSZT.), UPon
application of Richard E. MacNish, Main. Road, Cutchogue, New.York
for a~special exception in accordance with theZonlng'Ordinance,
Article IV, Section 408, Subsection (a), forpermission to retain
a ground sign with insufficient setback and height from ground
level. Location of property: north side Main Road, East-Cutchogue,
New Yor~, bounded north by B. Tuthill, east by A. Davids, south by
Main Road,' west by R.F. Tuthill. Fee-paid $5.00.
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The Chairman opened ~e hearing by reading the application
for a special exception, legal notice of'hearing, affidavit
attesting to its publication in the official newspaper, and
notice tothe applicant.
THE CHAIRFa%N: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
in favor of this application?
RICHARD MACNISH: I do~. I don't know what else to say
other that~what is in the application.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is it five feet back from the sidewalk?
P~IC~ M~CNI6H : I would say so. If I take it three feet
off the ground, that is just where you are going to look.
TPIE CHAIR~: If you move it back five feet I think the Board
would be willing to go along with the 18 inches abov~ ground level.
RICPL%RDMACNISH: I haven't measured the distance of the sign
from the cmnter of the road.
(Relocation of the sign was discussed. The appellant
stated that the present location of the sign was the only
feasible location.)
THE CHAI~: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
ag~nst this application?
~There was no responsd. )
After investigation and' inspection the Board finds that the
appellant'requests permission to retain an on premises ground sign
with insufficient set~ack and height from grpund level. ~The Board
finds ~that the appellant can not maintain a five foot distance
from the side yard in view of the existing d~iveways of the appellant
and adjoining neigh~'~r. The Board finds that the Slignin question
is t-~o feet six inche~ (2'6") by six feet~ ~6'). The Board finds
that the'~ sign in'question is an on premises identification sign
and the only means ,the appellanthas of identifing his business.
The Board finds that the existing sign is not a traffic hazard.
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The Board finds that the public convenience and welfare and
justice will be served and the legally established or permitted
use ofneighborhood property and adjoining use districts will
not be permanently or substantially injured and the spirit of
the Ordinance will be observed.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Bezgen, it was
RESOLVED that'Richard E. MacNish, Main Road, Cutchogue, New
Y0rk~ be granted permission to retain an on premises identification
sign with insufficient side yard clearance and insufficient height
from ground level on property located onthenorth side Main Road,
East-Cutchogue, New York, subject to the following conditions:
1~ The sign shall be granted for one year, renewable annually,
upon written application to the Board of Appeals.
2o The sign shall be s~bject to all subsequent changes in
the Southold Town Building one Ordinance as it applies to signs.
3. Th~ sign shall be located at least five (5) feet from the
front property line.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Hulse, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Gz~onis,
Mro ~ Doyen.
PUBLIC F~RING: Appeal No. 1004- 9:40 P~Mo~EoSoT.), Upon
application or'William Sterling a/c Sterling R'urseries, Main Road,
Cutchogue, New York, for a special exception in accordance with the
Zoning Ordinance, Article IV, Sectinn 408, Subsection (a), for per-
mission to retain more than one groundsign on premises. Location
of property: north side Main Road, Cutchogue, New York, bounded north
by Ro Sterling, east by G~To Billard, south by Main Road, west by
Bo Pawluczk, Fee paid $5°00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a special excpetion, legal notice of hearing, affidavit
attesting to its publication in-the official ~m newspaper, and
notice tothe applica~to
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THE' CHAIRMAn: Is there anyone present-who wishes to speak
in fao~r o£ this 'appliCat'io~?
WTV.V.~M STERL]lqG: I have a letter from my neighbor. I asked
h/m about'~the sign on the west side· ~ one on'~e
application~ It doesn't-bother him, He.wrote a letter which you
might-want to keep, saying it doesn't bother him or -interfere
with him.
~HE~: Is there anything else?
WIL~A~SEERLING: I don~t' know what else to' add; You sp~ke
about putting combining that-one big sign, number one and n~er
four. The only thing with that is it~ cutS~into my Pa~k/ng loto
The sign is not visible from the west.
THE'CH~XRMA~= You don't think you could put the signs
together and do the job?
W~v.T.L~M STERLING: I don~t think it-would'do the job.
I think it is more valuable the way it is no~°
~Ro BERGEN= These are two separate businesses.;
THE ~: Anything else you would l~ke 'to ~a~i~?
W_Tv.?.~AM STERLING: No.
THE CH~: Is there anyone present who w. ishes to speak
against this appIication?
(There was no response. )
THE'~~ Are tt~re any quest~s from any members of
the 3oard?
for note than one ground sign was exp£aLneu u~ ·
the appe~lms~ ~ -?'ih '"--_ .... ~- '~-t the a~llant's
pres=scs ground sign. _~ne ~o.ara ,~u~__,l~,. ~--~[ons· a retail
business is made up o, , nmuDer~o~_~_m:~,~'~U&;S,' ~ retail
garden cerrter%.!and , nut.secrecy =ar~_u-~-~ -------,___ted 1000 feet up Sterling
florist and g~eenhouse'w~lcn l~ ~= The
e however this ~s all on the appellant~s o~n prope_r__tY: . .
Lan · ........ ~ .... a ~e~eral lde~if~ca=l°n .s~gn.
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This sign is located less than five feet from the propert~
~ne. The sign number three'is used as a special promotion
sign in conjunction with the reta~{~ garden center operation.
If this sign was placed-in a window it would not be visible
to pasSingtraffic. Sign number four is a directional sign,
on the appellant's own property, used to appraise customers of
the location of and the services and products available at the
greenhouse 1000 feet up Sterling Lane. The Board finds thatall
the signs are essential to the separate business conducted on the same
parcel of land.
The Board~finds that the public convenience and welfare
and justice will be served and the legally established or
permitted use of neighborhood property and adjoining use
districts will not be permanently or substantially injured and
the spirit of the Ordinance will be observed.
On motion by Mr. Bergen, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED-thatWilliam Sterling, a/c'Sterling NurserieS, Main Road,
Cutchogue; New York, be granted permission %o retain more than one
ground sign on property located on the north side Main Road, Cutchogue,
New York, as applied for on the application to the~Board of Appeals,
application dated November 23, 1966, subject to the following
cpnditions:
1. Ail signs shall be granted for one (1) year'only, renewable
annually upon written application to the Board of Appeals.~
2. Ail signs shall be subject to all subsequent changes in
the Southold Town Building Zone Ordinance as it applies to signs.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Hulse, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Grigonis.
Mr. Doyen abstained from voting on the above application.
PUBLIC NRARING: Appeal No. 1002 - 9:10 P.'M.'(E,S.T~)'~ Upon
application of Mattituck"Lanes, Main Road, Mattituck, New York,
for a special exception in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance,
Article IV, Section-~08, Subsection (b), forpermission to'retain
a side'wall sign. Location of property: south Side Main ROad,
Mattituck, New York, lot numbers 103 and 104 in Mattituck'Park
Properties, Mattituck, New York, Fee paid $5.00.
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The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a special exception, legal notice of hearing, affidavit
attesting to its publication in the official newspaper, and
notice to the applicant.
THE CFa~IRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this appliCa~o~n?
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Is thee anyone present who wiShes to speak
asainst this application?
!(There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the B'oard finds that
the appellant requests permission to retain a side wall sign.
The appellant does not dSsplay a groundsign and agrees to
forego his right to a ground ~m~$x sign and thus maintain the
side wall sign. The sign on the side of the building is a
series of White bowling ballsthat spells out BOWLING. Each
letter is approximately eight inches in diameter. In general,
the Board is in agreement with the applicant as stated on the
application to the Board of Appeals.
The Board finds that the public convenience and welfare
and justice will be served and the legally established or
permitted use of neighborhood property and adjoining use
districts will not be permanently or substantially injured
and the spirit of the Ordimance will be observed.
On mo~ion by Fir. Hulse, seconded by'Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED thatMattituck Lanes, Main Road, Mattituck~ New
York, be granted permission to retain a side wall sign on property
located on the south side of the Main Road, Mattituck, New York,
as applied for on the application to the Board of Appeals,
application dated November' 24, 1966, subjecttto the following
conditions:
1. The sign shall be granted for one .Gl) year only, renewable
annually upon written application to the Board'of Appeals.
2. The sign shal~ ~e subject to all subsequent changes in the
Southold Town Building one Ordinance as it applies to signs.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Hulse, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Grigonis,
Mr. D~yen. * * *
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1966
On motion by Mr. Hulse, seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals set 7k30
P.M.(EST), Thursday, January 5, 1967, at the Town Office, Main
Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place of hearing upon
application of William.Clarke, Esq.,-Mattituck, New York, a/c
Robinson Goodal~, Peconic Bay Blvd., Jamesport, New Yorkt for
a Vaziance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article III,
Section 303, Article~X, Section 1000A, for permission to divide
property With insufficient frontage and area. Location of
property: west side Marlene Lane,. Mattituck, New York, bounded
nc~th by R.J~ Goodale, east by Marlene Lane, south by~W.J.~ Clarke,
west by Mattituck Park Sub.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: -ALL
On motion by Mr.~ Doyen, seconded by Mr. Hulse, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals set7:40
P.M.(E.S.~.)', Thursday, January 5, 1967, at the Town Office, Main
Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place of hearing upon
application Of Kyrillos Charalambides, 1550 Central Drive, Matti-
tuck, New Yorkt.fora variance in accordance with the Zoning
Ordinance, Article III, Section 300, Subsection 6, Article VII,
Section 703, for permission to retain an accessory building in the
front yard area. Location of property: north side Central_ Drive,
lot number 79, in'Capt. Kidd Estates, Mattituck, New York.
Vote cf theBoard: Ayes:- ALL
On motion by Mr. Bergen, seconded by Mr. Grigonis,~ it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeais set 7:50
P.M.~(EST),3~ Thursday, January 5, 1967, at the Town Office, Main
Road,'South01d, New York, as the time and place ofhearing upon
application of Frank A. McGee, Strohsen Road, Cutchogue, New York,
for~ a special exception in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance,
Article III, Section 300, Subsection 7 and 10, for permission to
retain an off premises name plate sign. Location of property:
so6th east side Strohson Road and Little Neck'Road, Cutchogue,
New York, bounded north by Strohson Road, east by L.M. Mason,
south by Creek, west by Little Neck'Road.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: ALL
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December 15, 1966
.On motion by Mr.~ Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Doyen, i t was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals set~8:Q0
P~M~i~E.S~T.)', Thursday~ ~anuary 5, 1967, at the Town Office, Main
Road, Southold, New York, ~ as the time and place of hearing
upon application of Joseph and Sophie Cherepowicz, Main Road, East
Marion, New York, for recognition of access in accordan'ce with the
State of New York TOwn. Law, Section 28~A. Location of property:
east side Shipyard Lane, East-M~rion, New Yor~, boundednorth by
Main Road~ east by MarionManor Sub.-Manor Grove, sOuth by Northern
OySter Co-Reeve,~west by Shipyard Lane-Others.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- ALL
On motion by M3c. Doyen, seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED that the Southotd Town Board of Appeals set 8:10
P.~(EST), Thursday, January 5, 1967, at the Town Office, Main
Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place of hearing upon
application of John Wickham, Wickham Huit Farm, Main Road,' Cutchogue,
New York, for a special exception in accordance with the Zoning
Ordinance, Article IV,-Section 408, Subsection A, for permission
to.retai~ an on premises.sign with insufficient setback from the
property line. Locatien~ property: south side Main Road, Cutchoguel,
New Yor~, bounded north by Main Road, eastby H.L.' Fleet'Est.,
south by Wickham'Creek-F. Tuthill, west by F. Tuthill.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:ALL
On motion by'Mr. Bergen, seconded by Mr. Hulse, it wa~~
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals. set 8:20
pi~(EST),'~ Thursday, January 5, 1967, at the Town Office, Main
Read,. Southold, New York, as the time and place of hearing upon
application or. CheSter Orlowski, a/c~Our Ladyof Ostrabrama Church,
Depot Lane~ Cutchogue, New York, forpermission 'to retain, a directional
sign on_~'e property of:Cora W. Wolf, located on the south side_'
Main Road, .Cutcho~e, New York, bounded nor%h:by:-~M~,in. Road~ east
by H.'L. Fleet, and Ano., south by H~L. Fleet and Ano. west by
Anthony Btados.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- ALL
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December 15, 1966
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by M_r. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals set 8:30
P.M,(EST), ]~ Thursday, January 5, 1967, at the Town Office, Main
Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place of hearing upon
application of Agway Petroleum'Corp., Pulaski Street~ R~verhead,
New York, a/c Ted Klos Serv%~ Station, Main Road, Peconic, New
York, for a special exception in accordance with the Zoning
Ordinance, Article IV, Section 408, Subsection A, for permission
toretain an on premises pole sign with insufficient setback.
Location of prope~rty: south side Main Road, Peconic, New York,
bounded north by Main Road, east%by M. Konarski, south byE.
Horton~ west by E. Horton.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- ALL
On motion by Mr. Hulse~ seconded by Mr.-Doyen, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board or'Appeals Set 8:40
P.M.i~ST)', Thursday, January 5, 1967, at the Town Office, Main
Road, Southold, New York, ~p~ as the time and place of hearing
upon application of Newton Robbins, Capt. Jim's Rowboat Station,
Third Street, New Suffolk, New York, for a special, exception in
accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 300,
Subsection l$,for permission to retain an off premises directional
s~gn with insufficient setback. Location of property: north east
corner of Main Street and Third Street, New Suffolk, New York,
bounded north by Helen Aponik, east by Dante A. Lorti, south
by Main Street, west by Third Street.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- ALL
On motion by Mr~ Hulse, seoonded by Mr. Grigonis, -it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals set 8:50
P.M. ~ST), Thursday, January 5, 1967, at the Town Office, Main
Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place of hearing upon
application of Russell P. Silleck Agency, Main Street, ~H~Cutchogue,
New York, for a special exception in accordance with the Zoning Or-
dinance, Article IV, Section 408, Subsection A & B, and Article
III, Section 300, Subsection 10, for permission to retain the
following signs:l) one on premises ground sign With insufficient
setback from the property line, and two signs on the front of the
building. Location of property: south side Main Road, Cutchogue,
New York, bounded north by Main Road, east by ~ Levin~ south and
west by North ForkBank and Trust-Co.; 2) one road side sign on the
property of C. Koloski, located on the south side Main'Road,
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Mattituck, New York, bounded north by Main Road, east by H. Pollak,
south by C.~ Koloski, west by F. Carlin-C. Koloski. 3) one. road
side sign located on the property of H.B. Robinson, located on
the west side of Main Road, Cutchogue, New York, bounded north by
StanleyRysko, east by Main Road, south by D. Robinson-Ors., west
by'Long Island Railroad.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- ALL
On motion by Fir. Bergen, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals set ~9:00
P.M. ~ST)', Thursday, January 5, 1967, at the Town Office, M~
Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place of hearing upon
application of Fishers Island Union Chapel, Montauk Avenue,
Fishers-Island, New York, for a variance in accordance with the
Zoning Ordiance, Article III, Section 301 A, and Article III,
Section 306, for permission to erect a church with excessive
height and insufficient setback. Location of property: northeast
corner of'Crescent Avenue and MontaukAvenue, Fishers Island,
New York, bounded northby West End Land Co., east by School
District, south by Montauk'Avenue, west by'Crescent Avenue.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:
On motionby Mr. Grigonis, Seconded by Mr.~ Doyen, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals set 9:05
P.M. ~ST)',' Thursday, January 5, 1967, at the Town Office, Main
Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place ofhearingupon
application of George J. Berry, Willow P~nd Lane. Southold~ New
York, for a special exception in accordance with the. Zonin~
Ordinance, Article IV, Section 408, Subsection A & B~ for per-
mission to retain the following signs. 1) an on presses sign
on the north side Main. Road~ Peconic, New York, bounded north
by Charle~ Slama, east by'Charles Slama, south by Main Road,
west by Charles Slama; 2) an on premises wall sign on the south
side Hummell Avenue, Southold, New York, bounded north by'Hummel~
Avenue, east by Boisseau Avenue~ south by Long Island Railroad,
west by George F. Erath.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- ALL
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December 15~ 1966
On mo~ion.by Mr.- Doyen, seconded by Mr. Hulse, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals set 9:15
P.M.(EST),' Thursday, January 5, 1967~ at the Town Office, Main
Road, Southold, New York, as the timeand place of hearing upon
application of Irving~C.~Wells, Aegion,~Avenue, Mattituck, New
York, for a special exception in accordance withthe Zoning
Ordinance, Article IV, Section 408, Subse~tionA, for permission
to retain an off premises s~n on theproperty of Peter New~ll,
located on the east s~ide Main Road, Mattituck, New York, bounded
nor.th by M.S. Wickham, east by Alice BoutcherEst~, south by Fay
Kimbell, west by Main Road,
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- ALL
On motion by Mr. Hulse, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the Southold Town Board of Appeals
dated December 1, 1966, be approved as submitted.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Hulse, Mrl Bergen, Mr. Grigonis
Mr. Doyen.
The next regular meeting of the Southold Town Board of Appeals
will be held at 7:30 P.M.~ Thursday, January 5, 1967 at theTown
Office, Main Road, Southold, New York.
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The meeting was adjourned at 11.0 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Barbara C. Dittmann, Secretary
Southold Town Board of'Appeals