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MEMBERS
Robert ~f/. Gillispi¢, Jr., Chairman
Robert. Bergen
Charles Gregonis, Jr.
Serge Doyen, Jr.
Fred Hulse, Jr.
Southold Town Board of Appeals
-~OUTHOLD, L. I., N. Y.
Telephone SO 5-9660
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SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OP APP~
May '25,. 1967
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Board of Appeals
was held at 7:30 P.M., Thursday, ~ay 25, 1967, at the Town
Office, Main Road, Southold, New York.
There,were present: Messrs: Robert W. Gillispie, Jr.,
Chairman; Robert Bergen~ Fred Huls$, Jr., Charles Grigonis, Jr.
Absent: ~r. Serge Doyens. Jr.
PUBLIC ~3~RING: Appeal No. 1078- 7:30
Pursuant'to Town Law, a rehearing upon application of Eastern
Shores, Inc., North Road, GreenPort~ New Yorka for a special
exception in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance~ Article
Section 300, Subsection 9, for permission to retain two sub~
division identificationsigns ~ith insufficient setback on the
property of J.J. Vaccaro and A.M. Atwan. Locatiun of properties:
north side North Road (CR 27), on the east and west side of Moore
Lane North, Eastern Shores, At Greenport, Greenport~ New York.
No fee required.
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May' 25~ 1967
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a special exception~ legal notice of hearing~ affidavit
attesting to its publication in the official newspaper, and
noticeto the applicant.
(The Chairman read in pa~t the action of the Board of
Appeals on April 13, 1967.)
THE CHAIRMAN: The lots at the entrance to the subdivision
at this pointhave been sold. Do you ~have permission from the
property owners to have signs therenow?
MR. MORGAN: Mr. Vaccaro has given his permission. ~r. A.M.
Atwan strongly objects.
THE CHAIRMAN: We have to have letters of permission.
MR. BERGEN: When they bought the property they didn't
agree to have the signs there?
MR. MORGAN: No, they didn't. We were thinking about taking
those signs down and putting up a hanging sign identifying the
area.
THE CHAIRMAN: On which side is Vaccaro's property?
MR. MORGAN: On the east side.
MR. BERGEN: You will have to move the sign on the west
side.
THE CPL%~IRMAN: What type of sign are you planning to put up?
MR. MORGAN: Just the wording Eastern Shores Estates, 16
inches long by 6 inches wide on the property of Vaccaro, one foot
back.
THE CHAIRMAN: Those are font feet by four feet that are
there now, however, you say theywili be replaced.
MR. MORGAN: The Town may take of the roads in Section
how do we keep permission to keep the signs?
THE CHAIRMAN: Keep your permission from Mr. Vaccaro. We can't
authorize~identification on public property.
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May 25, 1967
THE CHAIRMAN: This Mo~re~Lane North is in Section II?
MORGAN: Technically.
THE CHA~: Is there a strip of land between Section I
and Section II?
MR. MORGAN: Yes.
THE CHAIRMAN: Does this Section ~un all the way to the sound?
MR. MORGAN: That is a separate corporation/
THE CHAIRMAN: Between this entrance at Moore Lane North and
the property where the double sign is for acreage you can go
around in sort of a U shape? I am trying to make this clear to
everybody~ including myself.
MR. MORGAN: They are two locations, separated by 500 feet.
THE CHAIRMAN: We are clear about all of these except sign
number four which is the acreage sign. It has been moved and has
been separated from what should be one sign.
MR. BERGEN: When it has four post it becomes two signs. You
can V it on three poles.
THE CHAIRMAN: It looks awful close to the property line. We
approved what was there in April.
MR. MORGAN: That sign has not been moved.
MR. HULSE: It will have to be moved back-then,, and the
sign will have to be combined.
MR. MORGAN: Aren% they in a V shape now?
THE CHAIRMAb~: They are two separate signs there now° The
angle should not be any larger than the narrowest d/mension of
the sign. Iknow last fall the sign was set back further on the
proper,ty. This sign should be no closer than fifteen feet from
the property line.
Is there anyone else. who wishes to speak en this application?
(There was no response.)
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May-25, 1967
After investigatinn and inspection the Board .finds
that the applicant requested a rehearing for the signs
located on the east and west side of Moore's Lane North.
The Board finds that the applicanthas onlythepermission
of the property owner on the east side of Moore Lane North.
The Board confirms the action of the Board of Appeals as
taken on'April 13.~ 1967 on appeal no 1078 in regard to
sign number one located on the east and west side of MCCann
Lane~ and sign number three located on the property of
Gildersleeve. The Board grants permission for one subdivision
identification sign, no larger than 20 inches by 8 inches to
hang on four '~by four ~ost on the property of-J.J.
Vaccaro on the north east corner of the intersection of Moore
Lane North and Route 27. With reference to item number four
the location of the double face sign, it should be at least
fifteen feet from the property line on the north side of
Route 2~. This sign shall be angled so that the angle shall
be no ~rger than~e smallest dimension of the sign, which
shall be joined together.
The Board finds that the public convenience and welfare
and justice will be served and the legally ests%~ished or per-
mitted use of neighborhood property and adjoining use. districts
will not be permanently or substantially injured and the spirit
of theOrdinance will be observed.
On motion by Fir. Gillispie~ seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED that Eastern Shores~ Inc,, Greenport~ New York,
be granted permission to maintain signs as described above on
the property of J.J, Vaccaro, and on the~property of Eastern
Shores, Inc. This permission is granted subject~to the
following conditions:
1. Both signs shall be granted for a period of one year,
renewable annually upon written application to the Board of
Appeals.
2. Bo~h signs shall be subject to all subsequent changes in
the Southold Town BNilding Zone Ordinance as it applies to signs.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen,,
Mr. Hulse, Fir. Grigonis.
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May- 25~ 1967
The Hearing on Appeal No. 1094.~as reopened bythe
cha~ww~an. This was upon application of William-Wickham~ Esq.,.
Mattituck, New York, a/cHoward C. & Matilda Bigg, Ha~water
Road, Cutchogue, New York~ for a variance in accordance with
the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 303 & 307,
Article'X, Section 1000A, ~or permission to divide property.
Location of property: north west side Haywater Road, Nassau Point,
Cutchogue, New York, lot numbers 9 & 10 in Peconic Bay
PropertiesaInc.
TheChairman reread the application for a variance.
The Chairman also read the letter in the file from W~A~ Baldwin.
THE CHAIRMAN: As I recall this,the proposal was to vay the
easterly line of lot number 10 so to provide for-what appears
to be about five foot setback from the side yard line which
would include the present-house, or part of the house on lot
number 9. The bulk of the house is on lot number 10, part is
on Iot-$9. The proposed house on lot nubmer 9 Would be
considerably closer to the water than the other houses in this
section. Is there anyone presentwho wishes to speak for this
application?
WILLIAM WICKHAM, ESQ,': At this disc ussion at the last_
meeting we pointed out the location of the house on lot number
9 and you adjourns the meeting to have Mr. Goeller present to
discuss'this location. We have Mr. &'Mrs. Goeller and Mr. &
Mrs. Bigg here in case you Wish any further discussion.
THE CHAIRMAN: .The application involves the.division of
one lot.
WT~.IAMWICEHAM, ESQ.: It involves division and the proper
lo~ation of another house.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is Mr. Baldwin here tonight?
(No response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: I think there was a question of the water
supply here.
WI?J.IAMWICKHAM, ESQ.~: That is taken mare of~
THE CHAIRMAN: What is the acreage, do you know off hand?
WI~.LIAMWICKHAM, ESQ.: It is 65 by 300.
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MR. BIGG: The ~rea is 16a800 square feet on lotnumber 9/
THE CHAIRMAN: I get 16~100 square feet. I persume the
adjoining ~t is the same.
MR~ BIGG: It's a little larger . I bought lot number 9
from Barker~ and lot number~10 from Braun.
THE ~CHAIRMAN: It was prior to z~ing?
~R.~ BIGG: That is right.
MR. BERGEN: Was the house on lot number 10 when you bought
it?
MR.' BIGG: No. I built the house in 1947. I can't understand
how t~s~happened. I had a surveyor down there and I put the house
six inches inside the line.
THE CHA~: Seems to indicate that the surveyor was-wmong.
The chief problem is the ~ ,house onlot number'9. If
this was granted as a variance ! want to define the location
of the house on lot number. 9 so,~at~it won't' vary too much the
present setback down there. It-w,~!~d' probably ~volve locating
the house north and south rather. ~ east and west. The house
would have to run lenght~wise on the lot.
MR. RTILSE: Are you going to leave a five foot side yard on
lot number 9?
MR. BIGG: Yes.
THE CHAIRMAN: Want to have five feet and 7~ feet sideyard
on lot number 9~ and we would also wantto have...
MR. PR/LSE: Wouldn't it have to be 10 foot side-yard?
THE CHAIRMAn,: It is a narrow lot. If you hold to 7~ feet
from westerly line of lot number 9, hold to 10 feet of easterly
line and locate the house in this section. We have to consider
for purpose Of valuation the front yard setback as rear yard
setback. What the people are concerned with here is the setback
from the water. The Ordinance requires that the houseshould be
at least 35 feet back from the road.
WILL/A~WICKHAM,. ES~.': I want to point out,. the location of
the house as proposed on lot'number 9~ lines up withthe house to
the East.
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