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APPEALS BOARD
MEMBERS
GERARD P. GOEHRINGER, CHAIRMAN
CHARLES GRIGONI$, .JR.
SERGE DOYEN, JR.
ROBERT J. DOUGLASS
JOSEPH H. SAWICKI
MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING
APRIL 14, 1982
A Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board of Appeals was
held on Wednesday, April 14, 1982 at 7:30 o'clock p.m. at the
Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York 11971.
Present were~ ~erard P. Goekringer, Chairman; Charles
Grigonis, Jr.; Serge Doyen; Robert J. Douglass; Joseph H.
Sawicki. Also present was Mrs. Ruth Oliva, NFEC.
The Chairman called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. and
proceeded with the first public hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2961. Application of Ewald
Karbiner and Josep~ .To~itz, 39 Edgewood Drive, New Hyde Park,
NY (by Irving L. Price, Jr., Esq.) for a Variance for Approval
of Access, New York Town Law, Art. 16, Sec. 280A. Location of
Property: 155 Sunset Path, Southold, NY; bounded north by
Sunset Knoll Association; east by Sunset Path; south by Offen-
heiser; west by L.I. Sound; County Tax Map No. 1000-54-4-33.
The Chairman opened the hearing at 7:31 p.m. and read the
entire legal notice of hearing and the appeal application.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: We have a copy of a survey dated
September 24, 1981 indicating the property and the right-of-way
in question. We also have a copy of the County Tax Map indicat-
ing this property and the surrounding properties in the area.
Is there anybody wishing to speak in behalf of this application?
Mr. Price?
IRVING L. PRICE, JR., ESQ.: Thank you. Mr. Chairman,
members of the board. This application is pursuant to 280A from
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(Appeal No. 2961 - Ewald Karbiner & ano., continued:)
Article 16. I would like to point out to you a few things in
relation to the petition; mainly that under Subsection 5 of 280A,
15 feet is presumptive sufficiency for the purpose of access, and
this road, as shown on the survey is 20 feet...an additional five
feet. I personally traveled this right-of-way April 13th at 9:30
a.m. and found it to be open, unobstructed. There were no bushes
or anything rubbed on the side of the car. It was improved with
bluestone. I drove the length of the right-of-way and turned
around. I believe that it is sufficient for fire trucks, ambulances,
police cars and other emergency vehicles. It has a frontage as
shown by the survey of 162.34 plus 15.16 feet on the said right-of-
way so that there is plenty of frontage on the right-of-way. I
pointed out in the petition that there are additional houses in
there and they are fairly visible from this right-of-way. There
is one all the way in as on these tax maps which I have marked up
The subject lot is marked with an "X", number 33 in Block 1...
1.2 acres. There is a house up on the property marked Stalls and
it is owned now by a Reeve. There was a building permit issued
May 23, 1978 No. 97422. Another one 4348 on 6/18/69. One to
Stallmeyer himself No. 11359Z in 1981. There are two other
houses immediately east...the Reeve house...and there are build-
ing permits issued for White, 1195Z on 8/30/60 and one for Saltrepes
9739Z on 5/12/78.
So in common justice I believe this access should be recognized
and permission granted to build.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: While you're up here, Mr. Price, can I
just ask one question? If you notice on the survey, the right-of-way
shows a little jog approximately to the east--
MR. PRICE: That's not being used.
yesterday it was straight up.
When I traveled it
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Yes. You don't know why it's shown
like that?
MR. PRICE: I don't know why.
available. That is also 20 feet.
having been used.
But if it were, it would be
It doesn't show signs of ever
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Right. Thank you very much.
MR. PRICE: Oh. One more thing. Of course the summer season
is close approaching and the application has already been turned
down for a building permit and because the owners would like to
be able to enjoy their property this summer, the owners would
appreciate any expediency that you exercise in processing this
application.
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April 14, 1982
(Appeal No. 2961 - Ewald Karbiner & ano., continued:)
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Is there anybody else that would like
to speak in behalf of the application? Does anybody wish to
speak against the application? (None) Any comments from the
board? (None) You mentioned, Mr. Price, that you were down
there recently. We were down there a week this past Saturday,
and we were there on a very bleek day and the right-of-way
looked very, very good at that particular time. Hearing no
further comments from anybody, I'll make a motion closing the
hearing and making decision at a later time.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Sawicki, it
was
RESOLVED, to close the .hearing and reserve decision in the
matter of Appeal No. 2961, application of Ewald Karbiner and
Joseph Tomitz.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Grigonis,
Doyen, Douglass and Sawicki.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2959. Application of Arthur M.
Schwartz, M.D., 240-11 Maryland Road, Douglaston, NY 11363 for
a Variance for Approval of Access, New York Town Law Article 16,
Section 280A over a new right-of-way located off the northeasterly
side of Westphalia Avenue, Mattituck, NY; bounded north by
Howard's Branch; west by Berner; south by Penny and ano.; east
by Munz; County Tax Map Parcel No. 1000-113-9-10.1.
The Chairman opened the meeting at 7:40 p.m. and read the
legal notice in its entirety and appeal application.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: We have a large sketch prepared by
Young & Young, L.S. dated January 18, 1982 indicating the
traveled road which the Board of Appeals granted access over
some time in the earlier part of the year, and the survey
indicates the new right-of-way which is now existing in the
nature of this application. And we have a copy of the Tax Map
indicating the particular property and the surrounding proper-
ties in the area. Dr. Schwartz, did you wish to say something
in behalf of your application?
DR. ARTHUR M. SCHWARTZ: It says most everything. Thank
you very much for the opportunity and also to thank you for the
building permit...the house is almost ready to be lived in, so
we've moved along very quickly. I think it speaks for itself
plus the survey. I did one other thing, and that is there is a
large photo showing what would be entailed. This is that junc-
tion where the traveled road and the new right-of-way are. And
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(Appeal No. 2959 - Arthur M. Schwartz, M.D., continued:)
DR. SCHWARTZ continued:
now you can see this right-of-way that was put in by Mr. Wells
last year follows the power lines, and I had spoken with Mr.
DiVello before and Mrs. Galgano and learned that Mr. DiVello
was planning a new entrance over Westphalia, and tried to make
this right-of-way come close to that new entrance. Also, with
the help of some neighbors and also the title company, we
secured the old Liber which showed a right-of-way along the
south boundary. And the survey drawn by Mr. Young shows that
the road that was put in, a 15-foot width, begins at this
junction of the traveled road and you can see it right here.
Now, to widen this access road, the traveled one, it is lined
on each side by trees and now it measures somewhere between
10 and 11½ feet, and to bring it to 15 would mean to remove
those trees. And I would suggest also that everyone's property
now is on one side of a road and it's not cut through by an
access road, and I'm asking that this new road be granted
right of access in its present condition. It came through
the winter really quite well. Large trucks have used it dur-
ing the construction of the house including transit mix and
it has done very well. There is one little area that has a
little mud there now but can be easily fixed up. Now the only
person that I see it making some hardship for, and that could
be corrected, the drawing here is not accurate. Actually the
road stops about there. And it makes it a little hard for
Mr. Munz and I've spoken with Mr. Wells and we could round off
that corner making it easier for him to join up with this road,
or if he wished, to continue it on into his property. It
drains very well, and as I said came through the winter in
quite, good shape. Thank you very much.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Thank you very much. Is there anybody
else that would like to speak in behalf of this application?
Yes, sir?
WILLIAM WICKHAM, ESQ.: I asked to be heard at this time.
I'm not exactly -- I'm sort of inbetween. I represent Mr. Berner
through whose property this right-of-way has been constructed,
and while it was a little bit of a shock to find a new right-of-way
there, I can fairly say I think that it's the beginning of the
ultimate solution to a very naughty question up there with a
meandering right-of-way. Our only problem is probably more of
a legal one than it is one before this bureau or this department,
for the reason that eventually.., oh right now we have two
rights-of-way...if we're going to use the new one that's put in,
we certainly would like to have releases on the present one...the
meandering one. And otherwise from that, if we go to mortgage
to sell or anything like that, we're going to have an objection
to title.
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(Appeal No. 2959 - Arthur M. Schwartz, M.D., continued:)
MR. WICKHAM continued:
Now there was one other matter I wanted to bring up, and the
Doctor has already brought it. Gail was supposed to be here to
represent Mr. DiVello. She is tied up in Justice Court. Mr.
DiVello, of course, would like to have the right-of-way swing
down by the side of his property rather than go through...it's
a rather naughty thing to have a right-of-way go right through
the property and you can't do proper landscaping like that. I
bring that up to make you aware of it, and the Doctor has
already made you aware of it, but we would like to work that
out between the parties if we possibly could.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Does Gail want to be heard?
MR. WICKHAM: Well, I think the ole man can speak for her
right now. Unless you have any other questions.
CHAI~4AN GOEHRINGER: In asking you about that, in
words you're talking about what Maybe you could point this
out to me? This triangle is where you want to change the
entrance?
MR. WICKHAM: Yes. Right down there...swing it right down
there. It isn't a right angle by any means but the entrance in-
to Westphalia at least going to Mattituck would be a lot easier
than it is going this way and swinging back.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Has anybody spoken to the surrounding
property owners, Mr. Galgano...
MR. WICKHAM: I think they are all aware of it, aren't they,
John?
JOHN DIVELLO: Yes I believe Gail has done that.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Mr. Munz, too?
MR. WICKHAM: I don't know whether Mr. Munz -- I don't know
about.
MR. DIVELLO: He knows of it.
MR. WICKHAM: But I just bring that to your attention. It
is something we would like to work out.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Do you think you will come back to the
board with a revision of this 280A, or another application, Mr.
Wickham?
MR. WICKHAM: Well, it's whatever you feel should be done.
We're not in a position to make an application now. I'm just
bringing it to your attention.
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(Appeal No. 2959 - Arthur M. Schwartz, M.D., continued:)
MR. WICKHAM continued:
If we can do it on behalf of Mr. DiVello, certainly I would
like to do it with notice to the others, of course.
CHAI~ GOEHRINGER: Thank you very much. Is there anybody
else who would like to speak in behalf of this application?
Anybody to speak against the application? Any questions from
any board members? (None) Hearing no further comment on either
side, I'll make a motion closing the hearing and reserving
decision until a later date.
MEMBER SAWICKI: Second.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Sawicki, it was
RESOLVED, to close the hearing and reserve decision until a
later date in the matter of Appeal No. 2959, Arthur M. Schwartz,
M.D.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Grigonis,
Doyen, Douglass and Sawicki.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2960. Application of Gerasimos
Fioravantes, 265 Fourth Avenue, Brooklyn, NY 11215 for a Variance
to the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-30C for per-
mission to use accessory building for habitable guest accessory
use. Location of Property: 8220 Main Road, East Marion, NY;
bounded north by Main Road; east by Amott & ano.; south by Smith
& ano.; west by Cotrone & ano.; County Tax Map No. 1000-31-8-1.1.
The Chairman opened the hearing at 7:52 p.m. and read the
legal notice of hearing in its entirety and appeal application.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: We have a copy of the existing survey,
I can't see the date, indicating the property which is 40,000
square feet and we have a copy of the tax map indicating this
particular property and the surrounding properties in the area.
Who would like to speak in behalf of the application? Sir?
DAVID KAPELL: My name is David Kapell on behalf of Mr.
Fioravantes this evening to describe the planned action. What
we intend to do is to take an existing building that has been
on the site I'd say for in excess of 50 years and convert its
use from a storage building to that of guest facility to house
friends of Mr. Fioravantes. In no way is this structure intended
for rental use and no cooking facilities whatsoever will be
provided on the premises. It's strictly a guest accessory use.
Mr. Fioravantes bought this property somewhat over a year ago, has
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(Appeal No. 2960 - Gerasimos Fioravantes, continued:)
MR. KAPELL continued:
invested a substantial sum of money in its renovation, and has
promoted the general character of his general neighborhood very
well; and I think that this would be consistent with existing
other uses in the neighborhood and would help Mr. Fioravantes
to upgrade this property. The barn was, by the way, in a deteri-
orated state and is being improved and will have substantial
taxes. I'll be glad to answer any questions if I may or respond
to any comments.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Maybe later. Thank you very much, Mr.
Kapell. I failed to mention to everybody, anybody that would
like to speak on this application we would appreciate your name
first as Mr. Kapell did because of the nature of the recorder
here and our secretary who is taking everything down in shorthand.
Who else would like to speak in behalf of the application?
Anyone? (None) All right, is there anyone who would like to
speak against the application? We'll start with this lady first.
MARIE SMITH: I'm Marie Smith. I live on the property right
in back of Mr. Fioravantes. Mr. Fioravantes has been building,
rebuilding his barn, completely gutted it since last Labor Day,
has worked at it at least every week. He did not seek a permit
we believe until March, and I don't think we're naive enough to
believe that he's building two apartments and import friends
and relatives, with bathrooms, bedroom and living rooms. He
owns a large house with four bedrooms and two baths. I would
think that's sufficient for family, friends and relatives. It's
going to be a business use. We've seen this happen over and over
in this area.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Thank you.
MRS. SMITH: May I ask a question of Mr. Kapell? Are you
renting property across the road...you own those houses?
MR. KAPELL: Do I own those houses...no, I do not. I'm an
agent.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Ok?
MRS. SMITH: Yes.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Anybody else? Yes, sir. May I have
your name?
MIKE COTRONE: My name is Mike Cotrone. I live on the
adjoining property, just the small cottage right behind this
barn or structure that he is turning into a, I would say a
residence. I think he's, to make this place a rental. I feel
that we have not come out here...we're only out here a year...
and maybe I don't have the right to deny but the reason for us
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(Appeal No. 2960 - Gerasimos Fioravantes, continued:)
MR. COTRONE continued:
to come out here was for vacation reasons, and with those reasons
of mine, this building that's so close to our own little place
there just doesn't appeal to us at all. I'd like to reject it
all the way, if you understand what I am saying.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Thank you for your opinion. Does
anybody else like to speak?
SUSAN LONG: Yes. My name is Susan Long. I live in East
Marion to the southeast of the property that's in question. And
I have a couple of concerns, one being that I feel that if such
a variance is granted it would open up many other subdivisions or
properties that are required the 40,000 square feet, having
another habitable area on their property. I feel that it would
set a precedent and I feel that at a later date, if I should
chose to build a garage in my backyard or a barn, that I might
some day be able to come back to this board and ask that my
parents or whomever may go back there. And I feel also that
Southold Town, I don't believe they have much restriction or
jurisdiction in going into a home of this type to see if a stove
or anything is put in there. And another one of my big concerns,
I do have three children that do ride bikes in the area...I'm
not aware if this board does field inspections, but the area in
question, if you look across the street, there is a one very large
home that takes in guests during the entire summer season, and
there are many, many cars there. And to the east of that there
is a store. To the east of that there is a home owned by Mrs.
Amott who has obtained approval by the Southold Town Planning
Board to have overnight guests. She's in the B-1 District. To
the east of that is a post office. And to the east of that is
the Fire Department. And I am very concerned about the traffic
and the ingress and egress in this area. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Anybody else like to speak against
the application? Mr. Pohlig?
EDWARD POHLIG: Edward Pohlig, East Marion. Oh I feel
inasmuch as this whole project was started sub rosa, any plea
of hardship was self-imposed in the part of the applicant.
And I do not feel that should be considered in the board's
deliberations. But simply to say it's in harmony with other
uses of a similar type in the area...that's true, but it's not
in common, because most of these other uses predate the zoning
ordinance. And that's a poor excuse for perpetuating such use
in the future. And I recommend the board deny this application.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Thank you. Anybody else? Mr. Kapell?
MR. KAPELL: Can I respond to that.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: You can respond to that --let me just
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(Appeal No. 2960 - Gerasimos Fioravantes, continued:)
CHAIRMAN continued:
see if there is anyone else.
MR. KAPELL: I'd like to respond when the time is right.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Does anybody else wish-- Yes?
ERNY BAXTER: My name is Erny Baxter. Part of my property
abuts up on his property. First of all, I would like to respond
to something that Mr. Kapell said. They're not asking at the
right time for the permit to do all this work. They're asking
after they were caught when the work was almost in fact done.
They boarded up the front of it and they went around to the back
and went in and did all the work. It seems very odd to me if---
well, that's one thing.
Secondly, the area is really saturated now and has become
almost a boarding house. Where I live, which is right across
the street from the post office, there's on Bay Avenue a boarding
house there. There's a couple of boarding houses there. There's
a couple across the street from me, and now they have these other
units in there. It doesn't have to change in the nature of the
community. The community no longer becomes a yearround community...
it becomes like a hotel for the whole north end of the port.
Secondly, his property is just a couple of doors down from
both the post office and the fire department. As it is in July
you can hardly move for the traffic in there. The addition of
cars in that area, say at a time when the fire department had to
get out there, they would have to get out of there quick. You
can see the kind of an accident or kind of hang-up that would
stop those firemen from getting to a fire at some point.
I had a couple of other ideas, too.
MRS. SMITH: Yes, I had another one. You allow all these
boarding houses...that's what they are, frankly. They have too
many people for the amount of ground, so they spread out. All
the surrounding one-family homes suffer from trespassing. What
protection do you offer? We suffer from noise constantly. No
one ever goes to bed. One o'clock in the morning is the start
of festivities. We should be able to open our windows to breathe.
We have litter. You can't call the police. They have enough
trouble as it is. Who do you call? You increase the problems
that you have no solutions for.
MR. BAXTER: Excuse me. You can't but wonder what this is
going to do to the property values, especially the people coming
out looking at the area during the summer and seeing people at a
time out in front of your house with radios blaring and walking
around, in one of these rooming houses after another with cars
parked on the grass. Cars here. Cars there. Cars everyplace.
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(Appeal No. 2960 - Gerasimos Fioravantes, continued:)
MR. BAXTER continued:
It has to have a real impact. It's hard now during the summer.
Even though my wife and I have only been out here for a year and
a half. It's during the summer the cars go through there like
it's a speedway or something. The addition of cars in there
jus~ seems to be really weird.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Anybody else? Mr. Kapell?
MR. KAPELL: Number one is, and very specifically Mr. Fiora-
vantes intends in no way and is willing to accept the variance
condition on his compliance with not renting these units to any-
body. This is a statement that we make because this is the
intended use. It's not intended as a rental unit either by the
day, or by the week, or by the month or by the year. It's not
a rental property. So I think that for this board to be pre-
occupied with adjacent rental uses when in fact the applicant
does not propose such a use would be a mistake and it would be
unfair to Mr. Fioravantes in all respect.
MR. BAXTER: Mr. Kapell, out of respect to you, what if he
happens to change his mind in six months from now?
MR. KAPELL: In answer to Mrs. Long's point. The Zoning
Building Inspector of the Town of Southold very definitely has
the authority to make an inspection to insure compliance with
this, with whatever the terms of this variance are, if granted.
And along with any other violation of the zoning ordinance, which
this would be if the variance were granted for the use that we
requested and the fact that the property were put to use in some
other way.
MR. BAXTER: Mr. Kapell, does that answer mean you telling
me that the inspector will in fact police this from the time the
variance is...
MR. KAPELL: No. I did not say that. I said the inspection...
Mrs. Long made the point that she wasn't sure whether the town
had the authority to follow up. The town does have the authority.
The Building Inspector has the authority to enforce the zoning
ordinance of the Town of Southold, and this would be a function
of the zoning ordinance.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Can I just reflect upon that one second.
Number one, I don't want to get into a back and forth motion
because sometimes it causes a little problem. I just wanted
everybody to be aware of it. But to answer your question, we
had a public informational meeting last night on one-family hous-
ing conversions, and I did mention to the public that there was
at one time a specific application granted, not similar to this,
because each individual case is unique, and on that application
what seem to upset the people tremendously was a one-year
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(Appeal No. 2960 - Gerasimos Fioravantes, continued:)
CHAIRMAN continued:
inspection, ok. An annual inspection by the Building Department
with no notice between the hours of 8:30 to 4:00. In that res-
pect if a decision would be granted...and I'm not saying that one
would be...but if that would be the normal realm that people
would be thinking of...when .I say thinking of, that would be
the way that w~ would be thinking, on this board if a decision
was to come in this particular area. And I'm not making a deci-
sion in any way, and I'm -only one person, one of five persons
on this board. So on that respect, do you understand that, Mrs.
Long?
MRS. LONG: Yes. I think that's excellent. I would love
to see it state also that they would be able to inspect if they
should choose to do so three years from that date, not just one
year.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: That's every year. Annual inspection.
MRS. LONG: Oh annual. Oh, I think that's excellent.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Are you finished, Mr. Kapell?
MR. KAPELL: I would just like to say, the building inspector
has the authority under the zoning ordinance to inspect any
premise at any time. I wouldn't want to say it without looking
at the ordinance what the owner's rights are as to notice, because
that there probably are some rights as to notice. However, the
building inspector definitely has the authority to make inspections
around compliance with any aspect of the zoning ordinance, and to
put this property for use as a rental property in defiance of the
variance, or even if the variance is not granted would be a
violation of the zoning ordinance and the building inspector could
site it. He has the right to make these inspections at any time,
not only on anniversaries of this variance if granted, so I would
like to say that I think it would be unfortunate for Mr. Fioravantes
to find himself in the position of being affected adversely by
other people's actions on other properties at other times, and we
do apologize for the work that was undertaken without a building
permit, but that's another issue. The issue of the use to which
this property is being put, being stated very distinctly and we're
willing to be bound by it.
MRS. SMITH: This is rather personal, but Mr. Fioravantes'
small children already find our property very fascinating. Must
I police my backyard constantly? If his children like my backyard,
where do you think his guests...so-called guests and family are
going to go for a recreation. They have a strange piece of property...
it goes this way and this way. They really don't have that much
room to be entertained in. Who protects us? I think I have the
right to privacy. Mr. Baxter will suffer a great deal. So will
Mr. Cotrone. He's not there all the time. They spend a great deal
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(Appeal No. 2960 - Gerasimos Fioravantes, continued:)
MRS. SMITH continued:
of time on his property...we have them across our back, down this
side and then onto a private road. We've had this experience
for the ten years we've lived out here.
MR. KAPELL: Well, Mr. Fioravantes hasn't been there for ten
years.
MRS. SMITH: No, but all these guest houses, they just spread
out.
MR. KAPELL: We're not proposing a guest house. I'd like to
say that we're not proposing or ~asking for permission to develop
a guest house.
MRS. SMITH: It's a matter of semantics.
MR. KAPELL: It's a matter of legality.
MRS. SMITH: Experience has taught us that.
MR. KAPELL: We're not proposing a guest house.
CHAIRM3LN GOEHRINGER: I understand exactly where everybody...
and what the feelings are...I just have to keep the people in
this room aware of the fact that when we get into counterproduction
it's really not to anybody's well being. Mr. Baxter?
MR. BAXTER: I just wanted to say Mr. Kapell has gone over
very quickly the fact of the time of asking for the permit, was
another issue, was not exactly right. It is in fact central to
the issue because in fact, if the board decides to grant this,
we as neighbors are being asked in a certain real way to trust him.
We're being asked because we feel or not we, I can't speak for
others...because I feel that the building inspector being a quizzy
fellow will only be able to look in there a~couple of times, so I
have to take Mr. Fioravantes'...through Mr. Kapell...I have to take
Mr. Fioravantes' word for it, but already I have a very difficult
time doing that because having watched the work go on over a period
of time and knowing full well that the law of the community...which
I assume the community put that law into effect because they judged
it to be for the community welfare...and all of this time that law
being broken, broken and broken, I find it very difficult as a
matter of fact to trust him or to see that as a separate issue.
It's part of the issue, a fundamental part as a matter of fact.
Poor me, I'm not willing to just pass that by.
MR. PO~LIG: I agree. He has set a precedent already.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Mr. Cotrone, you had something further?
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(Appeal No. 2960 - Gerasimos Fioravantes, continued:)
MR. COTRONE: Assuming that this thing is all resolved one
way or the other, is there anyway that this would be able to
be brought back, or would that be a final judgment as far as
what the determination is tonight?
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: No, the applicant has 30 days to
appeal.
MR. COTRONE: What if it goes in his favor?
MEMBER GRIGONIS: Then you've got 30 days.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: To bring an Article 78.
MR. COTRONE: Thank you, sir.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Any other questions from anyone?
GEORGE SMITH: George Smith, East Marion. I'm the husband
of Marie Smith, who spoke before. Leaving aside the possibility
of rental uses, we're talking about very sizeable numbers of
people on this one-acre lot. We have to begin with a main house
with four bedrooms, two baths, which can accommodate a lot of
friends and relatives. Do we need additional space in a very
large storage barn for conversion that's going to accommodate
a great many bed and just many more people than I think a one-acre
zoning contemplates.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Thank you, sir. Mr. Pohlig?
MR. POHLIG: Basically what it comes down to, as I understand
the configuration of this proposed conversion. It's two stories,
one above the other, both with a separate outside entrance. Both
with its own living room, own bedroom and own bathroom. For all
the world it looks like two separate units, and it comes down to
three separate dwelling units on a one-acre parcel.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Thank you.
MRS. LONG: May I add one thing, Mr. Chairman.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Certainly.
MRS. LONG: On behalf of my husband I would like to make a
statement. He is a volunteer fireman in East Marion and he is
very concerned about the growth on this particular road...on the
area where the fire department is, and I would just like that to
go on record. As a fireman he is very interested in the congestion
and everything that's being built up in the area. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Anybody else? Mr. Kapell.
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(Appeal No. 2960 - Gerasimos Fioravantes, continued:)
MR. KAPELL: I would just like to sum up a few things. One,
Mr. Fioravantes has a large family. He has three children, two
are adults, and a four-bedroom house is not oversized. Number two,
I want to re-state and emphasize the fact that the property will
not be put to a rental use and are willing to abide by any form of
verification that the town wants to subject with regards to that
compliance. And number three, we believe that this application
will not substantially alter the character of this neighborhood,
nor the traffic conestion. We're talking about a family use, not
income use.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Thank you. Any other comments from
anyone that hasn't been said? (None) Any questions from any
board members. (None) What stage of completion is this in now,
Mr. Kapell?
MR. FIORAVANTES: The walls.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: The sheetrock is up?
MR. FIORAVANTES: Yeah. (Statement not understandable.)
because the building was on the side fall down a little bit and
looked bad. Then I cleaned the side, all the stuff on the outside.
Then I put a new roof, new windows, new doors.
MRS. SMITH: I can give you a six-months' building progress
report. New roof, paint job, completely gutted, enormous barn fires,
smelly barn fires burning everything up, all new windows, all new
doors, installed behind boarded up things. Possibly a new floor.
All it lacks is a staircase.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Mr. Cotrone?
MR. COTRONE: Yes. Another thing. In view of what, I know
him as Jerry, of what he has just said. I don't see where the
building is structurally sound to keep anybody in there. Especi-
ally any one's family. I can't understand that.
MR. POHLIG: Jerry, I question the two more units being added.
What provisions are contemplated for sewage disposal and water
supply?
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Mr. Kapell?
MR. KAPELL: Mr. Fioravantes will have to comply with the
building department's regulations in how the building in constructed,
protected and supplied with, you know...we have filed for a building
permit, it was turned down. We expect to receive the building permit
if this variance is granted and proceed subject to inspection by the
building department. So those conditions remain...subject to variance
or not.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Thank you very much. Any comments from
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(Appeal No. 2960 - Gerasimos Fioravantes, continued:)
CHAIRMAN continued:
board members again? (None) Hearing no further comments, I'll
make the motion closing the hearing and reserving decision until
a later date.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: Second.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Douglass, it was
RESOLVED, to close the hearing and reserve decision until a
later date in the matter of Appeal No. 2960, application of
Gerasimos Fioravantes.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Grigonis,
Doyen, Douglass and Sawicki.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2963. Application of Richard
Zeidler, 55 Whippoorwill Lane, Patchogue, NY for a Variance to the
Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Sections 100-31 and 100-36 for per-
mission to construct addition to dwelling reducing sideyard area.
Location of Property: McDonald Road, Laurel, NY; bounded northeast
by Chisholm; southeast by Great Peconic Bay; southwest by Brushes
Creek; northwest by McDonald Road. County Tax Map No. 1000-145-
4-15. Edgemere Park Lots 12, 13 and 14.
The Chairman opened the hearing at 8:18 p.m. and read the
legal notice of hearing in its entirety and appeal application.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: We have a copy of a survey which was
done by Young & Yount April 17, 1979 indicating the position of
the present one-story frame house and garage which sits approxi-
mately in the middle of Lot No. 13, and showing the proposed
addition which appears to be approximately 33.9' in width and
approximately 58.9' in length and sits almost in the center of
Lot 12. We also have a copy of the County Tax Map showing this
property and the surrounding properties in the area.
RICHARD ZEIDLER: I have sold my house in Patchogue, and we
have to be out by August,and the garage and the house along side
of it, one part of it is right on the building line, the other
part is a foot away, and I'm asking for a 6' easement. And the
way the property is situated with 6' on one end and 9' on the other.
And I have a picture of their garage...it shows a fence and it
also shows the front of their house and the property line. And
actually the front of my house. We're asking for...we actually
want to take and put a solar type of a thing in the front. We
need the room. I have three boats and I'd like to be able to
put the boats in when we get finished.
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April 14, 1982
(Appeal No. 2963 - Richard Zeidler, continued:)
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Mr. Zeidler, this is going to be
not habitable area...this is going to be just storage area?
MR. ZEIDLER: The only part there is going to be a room
is the one closest to the water where I would take and put a
solar heater. In other words I want to put glass doors, cement
floor, stuff under my house that I have now with the rocks and
I have electric heat, and it's expensive.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Any idea of how large a room that
will comprise?
MR. ZEIDLER: That room will actually be about 20' by 24'
That solar part that I want to put in there.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: And the rest of the building will be
storage?
MR. ZEIDLER: And garage. Actually I had an architect draw
a proposed plan, and it isn't what I wanted. I'll show it to you.
Because when he got finished.., and it would have cost about as
much as your school cost.
MR. WALKER: If I just may say, I'm Mr. Walker and we have
no objection at all. We're the ones that live on the north of
his residence, and I'm sure it will enhance the community.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Thank you, Mr. Walker.
MR. ZEIDEER: Now this is the picture. I call this the front
of the house. This is the part of the house that is by the water.
Actually, this is the front of the house where my driveway is and
what he did here is absolutely terrible. That's $385 worth...he's
a nice guy. What I want to do is to take the front of the garage
out and this will carry right through to the other side, and where
I have this picture here, I'm going to take this part of this, and
this will be over in here, this will have the glass-sliding doors
and the solar system that we're talking about. But this makes
sense. That would never look nice. There's no bedrooms, no
sleeping or anything, to enlarge anything or bring any family or
what have you. And I heard you say you have 60 days, please...
60 days I'm in a lot of trouble. You can have those. You can
have that too. (Photographs entered into file of neighbor's house.)
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Anybody else present who would be in
favor of saying something in this application?
MR. ZEIDLER: My wife.
MRS. ZEIDLER: I was going to but then I thought I better not.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Anybody like to say anything against the
application? (None) All right, hearing no further comments on
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(Appeal No. 2963 - Richard Zeidler, continued:)
either side, I'll again make a motion closing the hearing and
reserving decision for a later date.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it
was
RESOLVED, to close the hearing and reserve decision until
a later date in the matter of Appeal No. 2963, Richard Zeidler.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Grigonis,
Doyen, Douglass and Sawicki.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2963. Application of Warren A.
Sambach, 173 Hillside Avenue, Williston Park, NY 11596 (for Aaron
Shikler and wife) for a Variance for approval of access, New York
Town Law Art. 16, Sec. 280A. Location of Property: Private
Right-of-Way off Main Road, East Marion, NY; bounded north and
south by Swick; west by Swick and Woglom; east by Swick and Jayne.
County Tax Map No. 1000-23-1-7.
The Chairman opened the hearing at 8:27 p.m. and read the
legal notice of hearing in its entirety and appeal application.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: We have a copy of the survey dated
June 26, 1973 (and amended March 25, 1982) indicating the right-
of-way and parcel as mentioned in the application, and a copy of
the County Tax Map indicating this particular property and sur-
rounding properties in the area. Is there anybody in behalf of
this application?
WARREN SAMBACH: I'm Warren Sambach and just rest my case.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Ok. Anybody wishing to speak against
the application? (None) Hearing no further comments, I'll again
make a motion closing the hearing and reserving decision until a
later date.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Douglass, it was
RESOLVED, to close the hearing and reserve decision in the
matter of Appeal No. 2963, application for Aaron Shikler by
Warren Sambach as agent.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Grigonis,
Doyen, Douglass and Sawicki.
The board recessed for approximately four minutes and the
meeting reconvened at 8:36 p.m.
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April 14, 1982
PUBLIC HEARINGS: Appeals No. 2966, 2967, 2968 and 2969.
Applications of the Mattituck Chamber of Commerce for permission
to erect off-premises advertising signs in the following loca-
tions:
Appeal No. 2966 - Property of Leslie Tuthill, North side of
C.R. 48, Cutchogue, NY. CTM #1000-101-1-4.
Appeal No. 2967 - Property of R. Nine, Southeast corner of
C.R. 48 and Westphalia Avenue, Mattituck, NY. CTM #1000-141-3-22.
Appeal No. 2968 - Property of Greenbriar Homes, North side of
Main Road, Mattituck, NY; CTM #1000-108-3-5.5.
Appeal No. 2969 - Property of R. Reeve, Southeast corner of
Sound Avenue and Aldrich Lane, Mattituck, NY; CTM #1000-120-3-8.
The Chairman opened the hearings simultaneously at 8:37 p.m.
and read the legal notices of hearings in their entirety. The
Chairman was authorized to waive the reading of each application.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Is there anybody that would like to
speak in behalf of this application?
RAYMOND NINE: We just want very simple "Welcome to Mattituck"
signs. The Chamber has gone out and gotten written property owner
permission. You have a picture of it, right?
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Yes. May I ask you, is it the same
sign that appears now in the triangle across from the bowling
alley (Mattituck).
MR. NINE: It's not that big. The one that's in the park in
front of the bowling alley is a much bigger sign. These are about
a quarter of the size, Lois?
LOIS SAU~{OFF: They are approximately 24" by 30" standing
on one post and crossbar. The one in the park is 2' by 6'
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Thank you very much. Is there anybody
else that would like to be heard concerning these applications?
Would you like to say something?
MS. SAUTHOFF: Well, we feel that these signs will certainly
enhance the community and help bring it our image and all of us
would really appreciate a speedy decision from you.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Would anybody like to speak against
the applications? (None) Any questions from the board members?
Hearing no further questions and bearing in mind that the appli-
cations do abide by our zoning conditions, I'll make a motion
granting all four as applied for and subject to these ten condi-
tions which will go along with the decision.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -19- April 14, 1982
(Appeals No. 2966, 2967, 2968, and 2969 - Mattituck Chamber of
Commerce, continued:)
1. That the sign shall continue only as long as the
property owner's consent is in effect;
2. The purpose of the sign must be directional in the
public interest and said sign shall bear only the words as
generally indicated in the application (Welcome to Mattituck);
3. Said sign shall not exceed the size of four feet by
six feet (4' by 6');
4. Said sign shall not be less than five feet (5') from
any property line; the bottom edge of said sign shall not be
less than four feet [4'] above ground;
5. Said sign shall not be illuminated;
6. This permission is subject to receiving recommendations
from the Suffolk County Planning Commission pursuant to Sections
1323, et seq. of the Suffolk County Charter;
7. This permission is terminable at once at the direction
of the Board of Appeals;
8. In the event the property in question is conveyed,
written notification to this board shall be made within a
reasonable time;
9. This sign permit hereby authorized shall in no event
be in effect for more than five.years, except by approval of
this board after receiving written request annually thereafter
and compliance with all the above conditions have been made;
10. This sign permit is subject to the Federal Highway
Beautification Act and any and all other funding laws for
highways, if applicable thereto.
MEMBER SAWICKI: Second.
The board made the following findings and determination:
By this appeal, applicant seeks permission to erect a
hand-painted redwood sign approximately 2' by 3' to be hung
from 4" post and crossbar with a general wording "Welcome
to Mattituck," to be located at four different sites, to wit,
(1) Property of Leslie Tuthill, North Side of C.R. 48,
Cutchogue, NY, 1000-101-1-4; (2) Property of R. Nine,
Southeast corner of C.R. 48 and Westphalia Avenue, Mattituck,
NY, 1000-141-3-22; (3) Property of Greenbriar Homes, Inc.,
North side of Main Road, Mattituck, NY; 1000-108-3-5.5;
Southold Town Board of Appeals -20- April 14, 1982
(Appeals No. 2967, 2968, 2969 and 2966 - Mattituck Chamber of
Commerce, continued:)
(4) Property of R. Reeve, Southeast corner of Sound Avenue and
Aldrich Lane, Mattituck, NY; 1000-120-3-8. Applicant has
submitted written permission from the current property owners
for the records.
In considering this appeal, the board finds and deter-
mines that the use herein: (a) will not prevent the orderly
and reasonable use of adjacent properties or of properties in
adjacent use districts; (b) will not prevent the orderly
and reasonable use of permitted or legally established uses
in the district wherein the proposed use is to be located, or
of permitted or legally established uses in adjacent use
districts; (c) will not adversely affect the safety, health,
welfare, comfort, convenience or order of the town; (d)
will be in harmony with and promote the general purposes and
intent of the zoning ordinance of the Town of Southold. The
board also finds and determines that if the relief is granted
no adverse effects will be produced on surrounding properties
or of governmental facilities of any increased population;
that the relief is not substantial in relation to the code
requirements; and that the interests of justice will be served
by granting the relief as requested and subject to the condi-
tions specified below.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Sawicki, it
was
RESOLVED, that Appeals~O. 2966, 2967~ 2968 and 2969, Matti-~
tuck Chamber of Commerce, be granted permission to erect
sign with the general wording "Welcome to Mattituck" as
requested and SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
1. That the sign shall continue only as long as the
property owner's consent is in effect;
2. The purpose of the sign must be directional in the
public interest and said sign shall bear only the words as
generally indicated in the application (Welcome to Mattituck);
3. Said sign shall not exceed the size of four feet by
six feet (4' by 6');
4. Said sign shall not be less than five feet (5') from
any property line; the bottom edge of said sign shall not be
less than four feet [4'] above ground;
5. Said sign shall not be illuminated;
6. This permission is subject to receiving recommendations
Southold Town Board of Appeals -21- April 14, 1982
(Appeals No. 2966, 2967, 2968 and 2969 - Mattituck Chamber of
Commerce, continued:)
from the Suffolk County Planning Commission pursuant to Sections
1323, et seq. of the Suffolk County Charter;
7. This permission is terminable at once at the direction
of the Board of Appeals;
8. In the event the property in question is conveyed,
written notification to this board shall be made within a
reasonable time;
9. This sign permit hereby authorized shall in no event
be in effect for more than fi~e yea. rs, .except by approval of
this board after receiving written request annually thereafter
and compliance with all the above conditions have been made;
10. This sign permit is subject to the Federal Highway
Beautification Act and any and all other funding laws for
highways, if applicable thereto.
Locations of These Signs: (1) Property of Leslie
Tuthill, North Side of C.R. 48, Cutchogue, NY; 1000-101-1-4;
(2) Property of R. Nine, Southeast corner of C.R. 48 and
Westphalia Avenue, Mattituck, NY, 1000-141-3-22; (3)
Property of Greenbriar Homes, Inc., North side of Main Road,
Mattituck, NY; 1000-108-3-5.5; (4) Property of R. Reeve,
Southeast corner of Sound Avenue and Aldrich Lane, Mattituck,
NY; 1000-120-3-8.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Doyen,
Grigonis, Douglass and Sawicki.
This resolution was unanimously adopted.
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April 14, 1982
Mrs. Henry Latham was present concerning a pending decision
on the Davis-Slotkin matter, Appeal No. 2932, which hearing was
held on March 19, 1982 and closing pending deliberations. The
Chairman explained that a decision may possibly be made later
this evening when the board has had an opportunity to deliberate
in executive session. The Chairman said he would call Mrs.
Latham by telephone advising of whether or not a decision was
made later. Mrs. Latham asked to be reached at 765-2929 any
time this evening.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. FL-ii. Application of William J.
and Ruth Boylhart, by William B. Smith, 220 Mechanic Street,
Southold, NY for a Variance to the Floodplain Management Law,
Chapter 46, Section 46-18A for permission to construct lowest
floor below the minimum-required base flood elevation above mean
sea level. Location of Property: 1370 Latham Lane, Orient, NY;
Subdivision of "Land's End," filed Map No. 5909, Lot 4; County
Tax Map Parcel No. 1000-15-9-1.4.
The Chairman opened the hearing at 8:46 p.m. and read the
legal notice of hearing in its entirety and appeal application.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: We have a copy of a survey indicating
an update on October 9, 1981 by Young & Young, and we have a
copy of the County Tax Map showing this and the surrounding
properties. The nature of the appeal is an unusual one in
respect to the Building Inspector's determination showing a
division, the portion that is existing toward the water is in
a V-Zone and the portion where the proposed house is in an A-
Zone. Is there anybody that would like to speak in behalf of
this application?
WILLIAM B. SMITH: Yes. First off, as you might know, I
have since September 18th since I filed the application for a
building permit, and not knowing about the Federal Floodplain
as much as I should and plus the building department not also
knowing about the floodplain, we got into a total hassle which
has been going on for many months. I have the original map
that the county and the federal government went by to determine
the elevation. And this here you can have...this map showing 11'
at the road...in fact it's even across the road. And back in
the days when I sold this property to Mr. Boylhart, we were there
many times and I said I can't understand why it's only 11, high
when you stand here and look down at the water such a distance
below, or when you're down at the water and look up. And I
hired Mr. VanTuyl to make another survey of this particular lot
and he proceeded to go by the same survey, evidently put out by
the County, got a new survey and showed contour lines every five
feet. And with that I was still totally unhappy with it because
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April 14, 1982
(Appeal No. FL-ii William J. & Ruth Boylhart, continued:)
MR. SMITH continued:
it was the same thing. And I hired, myself, personally, Alden
Young. I went to them and spoke to them about it, and they did
a new survey which turned out to be 14.3 feet. This was done
because by this time I'm finding out that I'm getting in trouble
with the floodplain.
Not knowing that the building department had lead agency
in handling the floodplain, I was told I should appeal it in
Washington. Well, I wasn't about to appeal anything in Washing-
ton because I figured that would take about 14 years, so I didn't
bother with it. But if it wasn't for Larry Tuthill the last
couple of months I would not even be to this point, right today,
for some reason...Mr. Tuthill called me up and told me that the
building department had total jurisdiction over the floodplain.
At that point I got no action from the building department...
and I'm not criticizing the building department because I think
this thing is done by the Federal Government and so forth...is
so involved...that I got no action. However, Mr. Pell, at about
this particular time, and this is why Larry Tuthill called me,
he's the town engineer...had had a meeting with people from New
York, with the head of the building department, Larry Tuthill
and the men from Stony Brook, and they agreed that this project
should be approved and I should get action locally. And after
having a meeting with Mr. Pell, this was done. I got a building
permit...but the building department would still not give me a
permit because it's in the A-Zone. He made the decision that
it's in the A-Zone, but he would not give me the permit for an
8-foot cellar. And Larry Tuthill being very surprised and so
forth...I've talked to him many times and he kept telling me,
"Bill, you can have it if you want it." And so he says appeal
it to the Appeals Board. And I said, "You mean the Appeals Board
can handle this?" He said, "Absolutely. You don't have to go
to Stony Brook or Washington." That's why I'm here. And I have
had a tremendous amount of trouble doing this. The owner has
been very good about it because right now it has cost him $2,839.90
and I don't know how much more it is going to cost him because I
do not have a bill from Mr. Roy Haje of Env. Consultants. The
last bill I got from him was in December, and he has been untold
hours with the environmentalists in Stony Brook trying since last
December to get permission to place fill in the V-Zone, which after
many months I find out I'm not in the V-Zone. I'm in the A-Zone.
The permit for the fill is now in the mail from Stony Brook
to Mr. Haje, and that's my story.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Is it my understanding, Mr. Smith, that
this gentleman Boylhart wants to use the basement for storage?
MR. SMITH: Everything. A regular basement, for not storage
but to do his plumbing and heating and not have to crawl through
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April 14, 1982
(Appeal No. FL-ii William J. & Ruth Boylhart, continued:)
MR. SMITH continued:
a house about 75' long to drain pipes, because he lives in Cali-
fornia; until he retires in about four years this will be a
summer home...for about a month or two, I guess. And we will
have to put shutters on the windows up there. He doesn't want
the windows to get pitted or anything with salt spray or whatever.
That will all be put in the cellar. That's the only storage.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: There's no habitable storage?
MR. SMITH: Oh, gosh, no.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Thank you very much. Does anybody else
wish to speak in behalf of the application? Anybody like to speak
against the application? (None)
MR. SMITH: I might say before you ask for that, I have my
building permit...oh, I didn't tell you all. I was informed many
moons ago that I would have to have a breakaway foundation because
that was in the V-Zone rather than being put on piling. I had
Mr. Tsontakis re-draw the plans for a breakaway foundation which
was another several hundred dollars. And I now have a building
permit for a crawl space, and that is what this permit is here.
So what we're after here is to see if we can't have a cellar and
according to Mr. Tuthill the wave action, which I don't frankly
understand, the wave action and so forth at that point, and there
is no sand like the sand dunes in the ocean areas or Louisianna
or wherever you want to talk about...there's no wash, but as Bob
knows it has been there for 300 years and productive. So we
don't have the same problem that you have in other critical
areas, like the Hamptons and so forth.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Thank you very much, Mr. Smith. Any
comments from any board members? Bob? (None) Any comments
from anyone? (None) Hearing no further comments, I make a motion
closing the hearing and reserving decision until a later date.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: Second.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Douglass, it was
RESOLVED, to close the hearing and reserve decision until a
later date in the matter of Appeal No. FL-11, William J. and Ruth
Bo¥1hart.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Grigonis,
Doyen, Douglass and Sawicki.
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April 14, 1982
On motion by Mr. Douglass, seconded by Mr. Sawicki, it was
RESOLVED, to approve the Minutes of the following meetings
of the Board of Appeals: March 19, 1982 regular meeting and
April 3, 1982 Special Meeting.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Grigonis,
Doyen, Douglass and Sawicki.
On motion by Mr. Douglass, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED, to table the following matters pending review and
approval from the agency noted as follows:
Appeal No. 2946 - Peter Kujawski. Tabled until the Planning
Board has had an opportunity to officially take action on
this proposal and has recommended that the ZBA proceed with
the variance application.
Appeal No. 2962 - Gertrude K. Reeves. Tabled pending review
and approval by the Planning Board concerning the proposed
layout on this subdivision.
Appeal No. 2971 - Tabled pending receipt of documentation
showing the legal access to the property and sketch indicat-
ing the location of the proposed structures in relation to
the lowland areas. Solwin Industries Ltd.
Appeal No. 2975 - Solwin Industries Ltd. Special Exception.
Tabled pending receipt of documentation showing the legal
access to the property and sketch indicating the location
of the proposed structures in relation to the lowland areas.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Grigonis,
Doyen, Douglass and Sawicki.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Douglass, it was
RESOLVED, to schedule the following applications for public
hearings to be held at the next regular meeting of this board, to
wit, Friday, May 7, 1982 to be held at the Southold Town Hall:
Appeal No. 2973 - Eugene and Patricia Ann Mott. To construct
building in B-1 Zone with insufficient side and rear yard
setbacks at 31935 Main Road, Cutchogue, NY.
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April 14, 1982
Appeal No. 2976 - Karl and Helen Dimig. To reconstruct and
enlarge existing garage located in the frontyard area to an
extent exceeding 50% of its fair value at 1015 Bungalow Lane,
Mattituck, NY.
Appeal No. 2974 - Lucy E. Michaels. To construct accessory
storage building in the sideyard area at 3570 Minnehaha
Boulevard, Southold, NY.
Appeal No. 2972 - Anthony Macaluso. To construct deck
addition to dwelling with insufficient side and front yard
setbacks at 1175 Oak Drive, Southold, NY.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Grigonis,
Doyen, Douglass and Sawicki.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED, that the date and time of the next regular meeting
of this board shall be Friday, May 7, 1982 commencing at 7:30
o'clock p.m. to be held at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road,
Southold, New York.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Grigonis,
Doyen, Douglass and Sawicki.
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION: Appeal No. 2976. Application
of Karl and Helen Dimiq, 1015 Bungalow Lane, Mattituck, NY for
a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Article XI, Section 100-118E
for permission to reconstruct and enlarge existing garage located
in the frontyard area to an extent exceeding 50% of its fair
value. Location of Property: 1015 Bungalow Lane, Mattituck, NY;
bounded northeast by Deep Hole Creek; northwest by Smith; south-
west by Bungalow Lane; southeast by McCormack; County Tax Map
Parcel No. 1000-123-3-13.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Douglass,
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it was
RESOLVED, to declare the following Negative Environmental
Declaration concerning the matter of Karl and Helen Dimiq:
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION:
Pursuant to Section 617.13 of the N.Y.S. Department of
Environmental Conservation Act, Article 8 of the Environmental
Conservation Law, and Section 44-4 of the Southold Town Code,
notice is hereby given that the Southold Town Board of Appeals
has determined that the subject project as proposed in the
appeal application is hereby classified as a Type II Action,
not having a significant adverse effect upon the environment
for the following reason(s):
An Environmental Assessment in the Short Form has been
submitted which indicates that no significant adverse effects
were likely to occur'to the environment should this project
be implemented as planned in the within appeal application.
This declaration should not be considered a determination
made for any other department or agency which may also be
involved, nor for any other project not covered by the subject
appeal application.
Location of Property: 1015 Bungalow Lane, Mattituck, NY;
bounded northeast by Deep Hole Creek; northwest by Smith;
southwest by Bungalow Lane; southeast by McCormack; County
Tax Map No. 1000-123-3-13.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Grigonis,
Doyen, Douglass and Sawicki.
This resolution was unanimously adopted.
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ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION: Appeal No~ 2972. Application
of Anthony Macaluso for permission to construct deck addition
to .dwelling with insufficient, si~e' and fr.on.tyard setbacks.
1175 Oak Drive, Southold, NY.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded bY Mr. Douglass,
it was
RESOLVED, to declare the following Negative Environmental
Declaration concerning the matter of Anthony Macaluso:
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION:
Pursuant to Section 617.13 of the N.Y.S. Department of
Environmental Conservation Act, Article 8 of the Environmental
Conservation Law, and Section 44-4 of the Southold Town Code,
notice is hereby given that the Southold Town Board of Appeals
has determined that the subject project as proposed in this
appeal application is hereby classified as a ~y~e II Action,
not having a significant adverse effect upon the environment
for the following reason(s):
An Environmental Assessment in the short Form has been
submitted which indicates that no significant adverse effects
were likely to occur should this project be implemented as
planned.
The premises in question is not located within 300 feet
of tidal wetlands.
This declaration should not be considered a dete~LLination
made for any other department or agency which may also be in-
volved, nor for any other project not covered by the subject
appeal application.
Location of Property:
CTM No. 1000-80-1-39.
1175 Oak Drive, southold, NY;
Vote of the Board: Ayes:
Grigonis, Doyen and Sawicki.
M~ssrs. Douglass, Goehringer,
Southold Town Board of Appeals
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April 14, 19'82
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION: Appeal Nol 2973. Application
of Eugene and Patricia Ann MOtt, Box 38, Middle Island Blvd.,
Middle Island, NY 11953 for permission to construct building
in a B-1 Zone with an insufficient side and rear setback at
31935 Main Road, Cutchogue, NY.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Douglass,
it was
RESOLVED, to declare the folloWing Negative Environmental
Declaration concerning the matter of Eugene and Patricia Ann Mott:
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION:
Pursuant to Section 617.13 of the N.Y.S. Department of
Environmental Conservation Act, Article 8 of the Environmental
Conservation Law, and Section 44-4 of the Southold Town Code,
notice is hereby given that the Southold Town Board of Appeals
has determined that the subject project as proposed in this
appeal application is hereby classified as a Type II Action,
not having a significant adverse effect upon the environment
for the following reason(s):
An Environmental Assessment in the short Form has been
submitted which indicates that no significant adverse effects
were likely to occur should this project be implemented as
planned.
The premises in question is not located within 300 feet of
tidal wetlands.
This declaration should not be considered a determination
made for any other department or agency which may also be in-
volved, nor for any other project not covered by the subject
appeal application.
Location of Property: 31935 Main Road, CUtchogue, NY;
CTM N0. 1000=97-5-9.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:
Grigonis, Doyen and Sawicki.
M~ssrs. Douglass, Goehringer,
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ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION: Appeal No. 2974. Application
of Lucy E. Michaels for permission to construct accessory
storage building in the sideyard area at 3570 Minnehaha
Boulevard, Southold, NY.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Douglass,
it was
RESOLVED, to declare the following Negative Environmental
Declaration concerning the matter of Lucy E. Michaels:
ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION:
Pursuant to Section 617.13 of the N.Y.S. Department of
Environmental Conservation Act, Article 8 of the Environmental
Conservation Law, and Section 44-4 of the Southold Town Code,
notice is hereby given that the Southold Town Board of Appeals
has determined that the subject project as proposed in this
appeal application is hereby classified as a Type II Action,
not having a significant adverse effect upon the environment
for the following reason(s):
An Environmental Assessment in the short Form has been
submitted which indicates that no significant adverse effects
were likely to occur should this project be implemented as
planned.
This declaration should not be considered a determination
made for any other department or agency which may also be in-
volved, nor for any other project not covered by the subject
appeal application.
Location of Property: 3570 Minnehaha Boulevard, Southold;
CTM No. 1000-87-3-7.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:
Grigonis, Doyen and Sawicki.
MEssrs. Douglass, Goehringer,
Southold Town Board of Appeals
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RESERVED DECISION: Appeal No. 2959. Application of Arthur M.
Schwartz, M.D., 240-11 Maryland Road, Douglaston, NY 11363 for a
Variance for Approval of Access, New York Town Law Article 16,
Section 280A over a new right-of-way located off the northeasterly
side of Westphalia Avenue, Mattituck, NY; bounded north by Howard's
Branch; west by Berner; south by Penny and ano.; east by Munz;
County Tax Map Parcel No. 1000-113-9-10.1.
The public hearing was held earlier this evening concerning
this matter, at which time the hearing was declared closing
pending deliberations.
The board made the following findings and determination:
By this appeal, applicant seeks approval over a new right-
of-way as recorded in Liber 984, cp 99, which the board understands
to be the legal access to the premises and which is more particu-
larly shown on survey by Young & Young, L.S. dated January 18, 1982.
The right-of-way is 15' in width and extends 567.98 feet to the
premises in question from Westphalia Avenue. At the beginning of
the right-of-way in question (at Westphalia Avenue) is an entrance
gate having a clearance of roughly 11'7"
Previous appeals have been made concerning access to the
subject premises by Appeal No. 1632 dated August 24, 1972 and
by Appeal No. 2925 dated December 5, 1981.
Upon inspection of the premises, the board has found the
right-of-way requested by this application to be newly cut; and
it is the opinion of this board that the right-of-way may, past the
first 30 feet in length be widened to a minimum of 15 feet,
without significant difficulty, to the premises in question,
and that the width of the right-of-way beginning at the entrance
gate and along the first 30 feet in length should be widened to
12 feet.
In considering this appeal, the board determines that the
variance request is not substantial; that the circumstances
herein are unique; that by allowing the variance no substantial
detriment to adjoining properties would be created; that the
difficulty cannot be obviated by a method, feasible to appellant,
other than a variance; that no adverse effects will be produced
on available governmental facilities of any increased population;
that the relief requested will be in harmony with and promote the
general purposes of zoning; and that the interests of justice will
be served by allowing the variance.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Sawicki, it was
RESOLVED, that the applicant, Arthur M. Schwartz, M.D. be
granted approval of access over the new right-of-way in question,
pursuant to New York Town Law, Section 280A as applied in Appeal
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April 14, 1982
(Appeal No. 2959 - Arthur M. Schwartz, M.D. continued:)
No. 2959 and SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
1. The entrance within the right-of-way shall be a minimum
width of 12 feet (widened to the existing trees) for the first
30 feet in length commencing from the right-of-way property line
along Westphalia Road [Avenue];
2. The right-of-way must have a width of not less than 15
feet and be cleared of all trees, brush and other obstructions to
a width of 15 feet, past the first 30 feet of the subject access
road and extending to applicant's property;
3. The entire access road commencing from Westphalia Road
and to the applicant's property shall be improved with a minimum
depth of two inches of packed three-quarter-inch stone blend;
4. No certificate of occupancy shall be issued for the
construction of any buildings or structures, or any existing
buildings or structures, on the premises to which this access is
referred, until all the conditions set forth herein have been
complied with;
5. Where the terrain of the land over which such access
road is traversed is such that drainage problems may occur, the
applicant/owner shall be required to construct such drainage
facilities as may be necessary and recommended by the Town
Engineer;
6. That upon completion of the improvements of this access
road, the Board of Appeals shall receive notice of such completion
in order that an inspection of the access road may be made as to
meeting the above requirements;
7. That this access is deemed to include the approval of
access to all lots abutting the subject private road from the
town public street to the parcel in question.
Location of Property: Right-of-way off Westphalia Road
[Avenue], Mattituck, NY; County Tax Map Parcel No. 1000-113-9-10.1.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Grigonis, Doyen
Douglass and Sawicki.
This resolution was unanimously adopted.
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RESERVED DECISION: Appeal No. 2932. Application of JaY P' and
M. Joanne-Davis Slotkin, by Abigail A. Wickham, Esq., Main Road, Matti-
tuck, NY for a rehearing of Appeal No. 2932 for permission to establish
multiple professional medical offices on premises zoned "A" Residential
and Agricultural, varying the zoning ordinance, Article III, Section
100-30. Location of Property: 50 Ackerly Pond Road (a/k/a 49725 Main
Road), Southold, NY; bounded north by Johnson; west by Baker and Stout-
enburgh; south by Ackerly Pond Road; east by Main Road; County Tax Map
No. 1000-70-5-4.
The public hearing on this matter was held on March 19, 1982, at
which time decision was reserved pending deliberations.
The board made the following findings and determination:
By this appeal, applicants seek a variance to the provisions
of Section 100-30 for permission to use residentially zoned
property to be used as a three-profession office-type building.
The premises in question is located on the north side of
State Route 25 and the east side of Ackerly Pond Road, Southold,
and comprises approximately .59 of an acre. The property is
improved with a 1½-story wood frame house and accessory garage.
It is designated on the Suffolk County Tax Map as District 1000,
Section 70, Block 5, Lot 4. A majority of the properties
surrounding the subject premises is zoned "business"; and the
parcel immediately north of these premises is zoned residential
as well as the property immediately east of the subject premises.
At the hearing, it was shown by dollars and cents proof
that the land in question could not yield a reasonable return if
used for any of the uses allowed in this district by applicants
evidencing: the amount paid for the land in question; its
present value; maintenance expenses; land taxes; the amount of
mortgages and other encumbrances. Testimony was offered by real
estate brokers testifying the value of the premises with improve-
ments to be around $60,000, and if in another residential
location between $72,500 and $75,000. The brokers also testi-
fied that during the period this property was listed with
their offices, this offer by the applicants herein was the
only offer which is subject to obtaining this use variance. They
state that the reasons for this lack of interest by potential
customers is due to the expansion of the surrounding businesses
and the busy street intersection.
In considering this appeal, the board determines that the
burden of unnecessary hardship has been satisfied in that the
land cannot yield a reasonable return if used only for a purpose
allowed in this district; that the circumstances are unique;
that the use applied for will not alter the essential character
of the neighborhood; that the use will not prevent the orderly
and reasonable use of adjacent properties or of property in
adjacent use districts; that the use will not prevent the orderly
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April 14, 1982
(Appeal No. 2932 - Jay P. Slotkin, M.D., continued:)
and reasonable use of permitted or legally established uses in
the district wherein the proposed use is to be located, or of
permitted or legally established uses in adjacent use districts;
that the safety, health, welfare, comfort, convenience and order
of the town will not be adversely affected by the proposed use
and its location; and that the interests of justice will be
served by allowing the variance conditionally as noted below.
On motion by Mr. Sawicki, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED, that the application of Jay P. Slotkin, M.D.,
Appeal No. 2932, is hereby granted SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CON-
DITIONS:
(a) Any future expansion must be approved by the Board of
Appeals by formal application prior to construction;
(b) Not more than three medical professionals;
(c) There shall be a minimum of 12 parking spaces which
shall be in compliance with Section 100-112(C) of the Zoning Code;
(d) The parking areas shall be paved with four inches of
crushed bluestone blend, rolled;
(e) Screening with hedges or wooden stockade fence along
the rear and side property lines abutting the residential parcels
not less than 3' and up to 6' high;
(f) Egress and ingress shall be off Ackerly Pond Road;
(g) No removal of the existing black-pine shrubs along the
road front property areas.
Location of Property: 49725 Main Road (a/k/a 50 Ackerly
Pond Road), Southold, NY; County Tax Map Parcel No. 1000-70-5-4.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Grigonis,
Doyen, Douglass and Sawicki.
This resolution was unanimously adopted.
RESERVED DECISION: Appeal No. FL-ii. Application of William J.
and Ruth Boy!ha.rt, by William B. Smith, 220 Mechanic Street, Southold,
NY for a Variance to the Floodplain Management Law, Chapter 46, Sec-
tion 46-18A for permission to construct lowest floor below the minimum
required base flood elevation above mean sea level. Location of
Property: 1370 Latham Lane, Orient, NY; Subdivision of "Land's End,"
filed Map No. 5909, Lot 4; County Tax Map NO. 1000-15-9-1.4.
The public hearing concerning this matter was held earlier
this evening, at which time the hearing was closed pending delibera-
tions. The board made the following findings and determination:
Southold Town Board of Appeals -35- April 14, 1982
(Appeal No. FL-11 William J. Boylhart, continued:)
Upon investigation and personal inspection of the premises
in question, the board finds as follows:
The lot in question has an area of approximately 43,000
square feet with an average width along Latham Lane of 135 feet
and an average depth to the high water mark per filed map of
332 feet. The plot plan submitted to the board dated Octo-
ber 9, 1981 indicates that the area of the lot where the dwelling
is to be constructed has a lowest elevation of nine feet and
a highest elevation of 12 feet, above mean sea level. The
Building Inspector determines this parcel to be in an A Flood
Zone with a minimum elevation requirement of 11 feet. Applicant
requests permission to construct basement floor at eight feet
or more above mean sea level. The distance of the proposed
location of the subject dwelling from the high water mark is
approximately 220 feet. It should also be noted that the
parcels located to the south of Latham Lane appear to be in
a B-Flood Zone, an area protected from the base flood, as
indicated on Panel 50 of 115, FIRM 9360813 0050A dated
March 18, 1980.
In passing upon this application, the board has considered
all technical evaluations; all relevant factors; all standards
specified in the code; and all of the applicable factors con-
tained in Section 46-15B, subdivisions (1) to (11), inclusive
of the Code.
The board further finds and determines that: (1) There
is a good and sufficient cause for the grant of this variance;
(2) A failure to grant the variance would result in exceptional
hardship to the applicant; (3) The grant of a variance will
not result in increased flood heights, or additional threats to
public safety, or extraordinary public expense, or create nui-
sances, or cause fraud, or victimize the public, or conflict
with existing local laws or rules or regulations.
On motion by Mr. Douglass, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it
was
RESOLVED, that the applicant, William J. Bo~lhart, be and
hereby is granted a variance from the provisions of the Flood
Damage Prevention Law of the Town of Southold, as applied for
in Appeal No. FL-11, to construct lowest floor of this proposed
one-family dwelling at 8' above mean sea level on p~emises l~cated
at 1370 Latham Lane, Orient, New York, (County Tax Map District
1000, Section 15, Block 9, Lot 1.4), SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING
CONDITIONS, to wit:
[1] That the basement (below the 11' base flood level) be
floodproofed so that the structure below the base flood level
is watertight with walls substantially impermeable to the
passage of water;
Southold Town Board o~ Appeals -36- Apri. 14, 1982
(Appeal No. FL-ii, William J. Boylhart, continued:)
[2] That the floodproofing requirements be certified by
a registered and licensed professional engineer/architect as
meeting the standards set forth in the preceding paragraph
hereof;
[3] That such certification be filed with this board
(and with the building department) of the Town of Southold;
[4] That prior to commencement of construction, the
applicant apply for and obtain a Development Permit from the
Town building inspector, pursuant to the provisions of the
Flood Damage Prevention Law of the Town of Southold;
[5] That the basement floor not be constructed less
than eight feet above mean sea level;
[6] That the basement/cellar area is not to be used for
habitable purposes, only storage being permitted;
AND IT IS FURTHER RESOLVED, that pursuant to the provi-
sions of Section 46-16F of the Code, the applicant is hereby
given notice that the structure for which this variance is
granted will be permitted to be built with the lowest floor
elevation below the base flood elevation as indicated above
and that the cost of flood ~nsurance will be commensurate
with the increased risk res~lting from the reduced lowest
floor elevation;
AND IT IS FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Secretary to this
board transmit copies of this determination to the applicants
and to the Town building inspector.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:
Grigonis, Douglass and Sawicki.
unanimously adopted.
Messrs. Goehringer, Doyen,
This resolution was
RESERVED DECISION: Appeal No. 2963. Application of
Richard Zeidler, 55 Whippoorwill Lane, Patchogue, NY for a
Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Sections 100-31
and 100-36 for permission to construct addition to dwelling
reducing the sideyard area. Location of Property: McDonald
Road, Laurel, New York; bounded northeast by Chisholm; southeast
by Great Peconic Bay; southwest by Brushes Creek; northwest by
McDonald Road; Edgemere Park Subdivision Lots No. 12, 13 and 14;
County Tax Map District 1000, Section 145, Block 4, Lot 15.
The public hearing concerning this matter was held
earlier this evening, at which time the hearing was closed
and decision reserved pending deliberations.
The board made the following findings and determination:
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(Appeal No. 2963, Richard Zeidler, continued:)
By this appeal, applicant seeks permission to construct a
44' by 58.9' addition to the existing one-family one-story
dwelling for storage purposes and at one section for a proposed
solar unit. Applicant's dwelling is constructed with a crawl
space area and has limited storage area. The addition as
requested would leave a minimum setback at the northeasterly
corner to the property line of nine feet and at the southeasterly
corner a minimum of six feet. It is the feeling of the board
that a setback of no less than eight feet at the southeasterly
corner and no less than eleven feet at the northeasterly corner
of this addition to the easterly property line is more practical
under the circumstances.
The premises in question contains an area of approximately
28,355 square feet, with road frontage of roughly 153.84 feet
and a depth of 185.74 feet. This parcel is a waterfront lot
with frontage along Brushes Creek and Peconic Bay. At the
northwesterly corner of the premises is a triangular-shaped
view easement, the base extending approximately 50.71 feet.
In considering this appeal, the board determines that the
variance request is not substantial in relation to the code
requirements; that the circumstances herein are unique; that
by allowing the variance no substantial detriment to adjoining
properties would be created; that the difficulty cannot be
obviated by a method, feasible to appellant, other than a
variance; that no adverse effects will be produced on available
governmental facilities of any increased population; that the
relief requested will be in harmony with and promote the general
purposes of zoning; and that the interests of justice will be
served by allowing the variance.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it
was
RESOLVED, that Appeal No. 2963, application of Richard
Zeidler be and hereby is granted permission to construct addi-
tion to dwelling, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
(1) That the addition be constructed not closer than
eight feet on the southeast corner [to the easterly property line];
(2) That the addition be constructed not closer than
eleven feet on the northeast corner [to the easterly property line].
Location of Property: McDonald Road, Laurel, NY; bounded
northeast by Chisholm; southeast by Great Peconic Bay; southwest
by Brushes Creek; northwest by McDonald Road; Edgemere Park Sub-
division Lots No. 12, 13 and 14; County Tax Map Parcel No.
1000-145-4-15.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Grigonis,
Doyen, Douglass and Sawicki. This resolution was unanimously
adopted.
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RESERVED DECISION: Appeal No. 2965.
Upon application of Warren A. Sambach, 173 Hillside Avenue, Williston
Park, NY (for Aaron Shikler and wife) for a Variance for approval of
access, New York Town Law Art. 16, Sec. 280A. Location of Property:
Private Right-of-Way off Main Road, East Marion, NY; bounded north and
south by Swick; west by Swick and Woglom; east by Swick and Jayne;
County Tax Map Parcel No. 1000-23-1-7.
The public hearing concerning this matter was held earlier this even-
ing, at which time the hearing was closed and decision reserved
pending deliberations.
The board made the following findings and determination:
By this application, applicant seeks approval of access over
an existing private road with a good base, roughly 15 feet width,
located off the north side of Main Road in East Marion. The lot
to which this access is referred has frontage along this access
road of approximately 269 feet and is more particularly known
as County Tax Map District 1000, Section 23, Block 1, Lot 7,
with an acreage of roughly 1.1 acre. The right-of-way in ques-
tion is the only viable route to the premises to the board's
knowledge.
In considering this appeal, the board determines that the
variance request is not substantial in relation to the code
requirements; that the circumstances herein are unique; that
by allowing the variance no substantial detriment to adjoining
properties would be created; that the difficulty cannot be
obviated by a method, feasible to appellant, other than a
variance; that no adverse effects will be produced on available
governmental facilities of any increased population; that the
relief requested will be in harmony with and promote the general
purposes of zoning; and that the interests of justice will be
served by allowing the variance as applied for and indicated
below.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Sawicki, it was
RESOLVED, to grant approval of access over the subject
right-of-way applied for in Appeal No. 2965, application of
Warren A. Sambach for Aaron Shikler, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING
CONDITION:
1. Where the terrain of the land over which such access road
is traversed is such that drainage problems may occur, the
applicant/owner shall be required to construct such drainage
facilities as may be recommended by the Town Engineer.
2. That this access is deemed to include the approval of
access to this parcel and the parcel most southerly of the
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April 14, 1982
(Appeal No. 2965 - Aaron Shikler, continued:)
parcel in question abutting this private road from the public
town street to the parcel in question.
Location of Property: Right-of-way off the north side of
Main Road (S.R. 25), East Marion, NY; County Tax Map Parcel
No. 1000-23-1-7.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Grigonis,
Doyen, Douglass and Sawicki. This resolution was unanimously
adopted.
RESERVED DECISION: Appeal No. 2961. Application of Ewald
Karbiner and Joseph Tomitz, 39 Edgewood Drive, New Hyde Park,
NY (by Irving L. Price, Jr., Esq.) for a Variance for Approval
of Access, New York Town Law Art. 16, Sec. 280A. Location of
Property: 155 Sunset Path, Southold, NY; bounded north by Sunset
Knoll Association; east by Sunset Path; south by Offenheiser;
west by L.I. Sound; County Tax Map No. 1000-54-4-33.
The public hearing concerning this matter was held earlier
this evening, at which time the hearing was closed and decision
reserved pending deliberations.
The board made the following findings and determination:
By this application, applicants seek approval of access over an
existing private road with a good base, having a clearance of approxi-
mately 12 feet in width, located off the northerly side of Horton's
Lane, Southold. The lot to which this access is referred has front-
age along this access road of approximately 177.50 feet and is more
particularly known as County Tax Map District 1000, Section 54, Block
4, Lot 33, with an acreage of 1.346. The right-of-way in ques-
tion is the only viable, practical route to the premises.
In considering this appeal, the board determines that the
variance request is not substantial in relation to the code
requirements; that the circumstances herein are unique; that
by allowing the variance no substantial detriment to adjoining
properties would be created; that the difficulty cannot be
obviated by a method, feasible to appellant, other than a
variance; that no adverse effects will be produced on available
governmental facilities of any increased population; that the
relief requested will be in harmony with and promote the general
purposes of zoning; and that the interests of justice will be
served by allowing the variance as applied for and indicated
below.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Sawicki, it was
RESOLVED, to grant approval of access over the subject
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April 14, 1982
(Appeal No. 2961 - Ewald Karbiner and Joseph Tomitz, continued:)
right-of-way applied for in Appeal No. 2961, application of
Ewald Karbiner and Joseph Tomitz, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING
CONDITION:
1. Where the terrain of the land over which such access road
is traversed is such that drainage problems may occur, the
applicant/owner shall be required to construct such drainage
facilities as may be recommended by the Town Engineer.
Location of Property: 155 Sunset Path, Southold, NY;
bounded north by Sunset Knoll Association; east by Sunset Path;
south by Offenheiser; west by L.I. Sound; County Tax Map No.
1000-54-4-33.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Grigonis,
Doyen, Douglass and Sawicki. This resolution was unanimously
adopted.
Being there was no further business properly coming before
the board at this time, the Chairman declared the meeting
adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
Linda F. Kowalski, Secretary
Southold Town Board of Appeals
APPROVED
Chairrrja~' Boa'~d of ADD'Is