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MEMBERS
Robert '~(/. Gillispi¢, Jr., Chairman
Robert Bergen
Charles Gre~onis, Jr.
Serge Doyen, ,Jr.
Fred Huls¢, Jr.
Southold Town Board of Appeals
SDUTHDLD, L. I., N. Y.
Telephone SO 5-2660
SOUTH0~D TOWN BOARD CF APPEALS
September 19s 1968
A regular meeting ~f the Southold Town Board ~f Appeals
was held at 7.'30 P.M.s Thursdays September 19s 1968s at the
Town Of£ioes Main Roads Southolds New York.
There were presentg Messrs~ Robert W. Gillispies Jr.s Chairman;
Robert Berg,ns Charles Grlgoniss Jr.
Absent: Fred Hulses Jr.s Serge ~oyens Jr.
PUBLIC ~ARING~ Appeal No, 1202 - 7930 PeM,(B,DeSeT,)s Upon
applicatiO~ ~f Ra~mond Te Horgans Beeohwood Roads ~utoho~ues New
Yorks for a variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinances Article
IIIs Section 300s Subsection 6s for permission to locate accessory
bu/lding in fruit yard axeae Looati~ ~f property g private road (
Beechwood Road) ~ff sough side New Suffolk Avenues Cutchogues New
Yorks bounded north by ~ight ~f ways east by A. Fc$cates south by
Peconic Bays west by Bug,ne Beardslee. Fee pa~de$heO0.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the legal notice cml
hearings applicatiOn for a variances affidavit attesting to the legal
notices and notice to the applloant.
$outhold Town Board ~ppeals -2- Optember 19, 1968
T~ CHAIRMAN= Is there anyone present who wishes to speak for
this application?
CHESTER ORLGWSKI: I will speak for its All the garages in that
area are within two to twelve feet of ~he ~oade Everyone has the
garage in the front yard and this can't change the character of the
area at all,
THE CHAIRMAN= Anyone present who wishes to speak against this
application?
(There was no response,)
THE CHAIRMAN= Are there ~ny other qUestions?
(There was no responses)
THE CHAIRMAN= It seems to me we discussed setting this back far
enough so that an automobile would be off the street when parked in
front of the garage. I don~t think 14 feet set ~ack is enough.
M~, ~ERGEN= You could put~e garage back ~wo more feet without
too much troubles
~, RAY HC~GAN= May I speak on that. The reason I would lik~ to
o brain this permission is to build a garage at 14 feet, I want to
build to Foscato lines three feets ~eparatin9 my property from Fosoato.
I need more on the east side than on the we~t sides The road runs
on an allgles
THE CHAIRMAn: The lot narrows on the street,
MR= HORGAN= The Fescato house is about 40 feet from the roadway,
If I could build a garage without projecting beyond their house lines
it will not shut out their vision or their air. I made it a 24 foot
garages becuase it is m~ plan to winterize.
THB CHAIRMAN= 16 feet is not wide enought for two carss I was just
wondering /~ we are going to consider Mr, Foscato~s views
MRs BERC~N: It would he more of a question of air, His house
is nearer the road than Mr. Horga~s=
MR. HC~GA.N= Yes, about 20 feet closer to the road than mines
THE CHAIRMAN= If we are going to consider that, I ~nkyou would
give consideration to widen~-g the garage ra~her than lenghten it.
ne ORLOWSKI: There won't be much left in the frmlt yards
THE CHAIRMAN= The thing that concerns us is that there should be
enough room to get the car in and out of the garage without having
part of the car on the road while you are still backing out of the
d~iv~way.
BERGEN= This~s a private road, limited access.
THE CHAIRMAN= The road will be i~. There will be more houses
down there and more traffic~
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~. HC~GAN: There is now seven houses on that road. There is
room for at least one mores ~f that road were every improved, as it
will be some day, certainly~ it would be 40 feet wide. It is m~ ~ntention
to, i~ I am granted this, to put a 10 foot service c~ivew~y on the
easterly side of this so that trucks will have a place to drive in off
the road to m~Me deliveries.
CHAIRMAN: Do you mean on the west side?
~o HORGAN: On the west side of the garage. I~ I made the garage
18 feet by 24 feet, I would still need the space,
THB CHAIRMAN~ One of the things we are concerned with here is that
everyone that has a summer residence, intends to winterize it for
permanent occupancy. We are trying to give some consideration to that,
In the snow you mould have a car half out on the road. One of the
other things we have tried to do is require entrance to the garage
from you= own property so that you back in and out of the garage on
your owu property, rather than the right of way.
M~.(I~LOWSEI~ P~etty hard to do that here becau~ the lot is so
THB CHAIRMAN: Are there any other questions?
~There was no responsee)
After investigationald inspection the Board finds that the
applicant request permission to erect ampi maintain a ~arage in the
front yard area. The applicant is the owner of waterfront property
and all other property ca~ners in the immectiate vicinity have garages
in the front yard area. The Board strongly recommends that the
garage should he set back further from the road, however, it shall not
he any closer than 14 feet to the closest line on Beechwood Road~
and at least three feet from the east line.
The Board finds that strict application of the Or~{:-ance
will produce practical dif~culties or un~eccesary hardship; the
hardship created ts unique and would not be shared by all properties
alike in the {mm~diate Vicinity of $~his property and in the sam~
use district; a~d the variance does observe the spirit of the
Ordinance and will not change the character of the district.
On motion by Mr. Bergen, seccalded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED Raymond T. Horgan, Beechwood Road, Cutchogu~, New York,
he granted permission to locate an accessory building in the front yard
area~ subject to the conditions pointed out above. Location of p~Dperty:
Private Road )Beeohwood Road) Q[f south side New Suffolk Avenue~ Cutchogue,
New York.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gil~ispie, Mr. Bergen,
Southold Town Board ~f Appeals -4- September 19, 1968
PUBLIC HP. ARIlk~: Appeal No, 1~03 - 7~45 P,M,(E,DoS,T,}~ Upon
application af North Fork Youth Centre, Inc.s Middle Road- Country
Road 27, Mattitu~k, New York~ for a special exception in accordance
withthe Zoning Ordinances Arti&le III~ Section 300s Subsection 5 (c)
for perm/ssion to operate a private membership club, LOCati~ af
property: west side Middle RDad-Couty Road 27s Mattitu~ks New Yorks
bounded north by Casbor, Inc.s east b~ Middle Road-County Road 27
mouth by North Fork Baptist Churchs west by Kaiser. Fee paid
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application for
a special exceptions legal notice ~f hearing, affidavit attesting to
its publication in the official newspaper, and notice to the applicant.
THE CHAIRMAN: The application is accompanied by a copy of the
Tax Map T~wn of Southold~ School District No. 9s Sheet No. S1s
locating the property under discussion. There is also a survey by
Van Tuyl, dated May 6s 1968 which gives the dlm~nsions of the
property.
We dis=u~sed this somewhat. The application is to organizes
operates and maintain a youth centre to provide a wholesome reoreatiunal
activitiess meetingss events, entertainment for the inculcating and
promoting of the intellectual and sOcial well keing of young people.
Do you want to elaborate o~ the recreational activities, What would
the entertainment be?
JACK SHBRWOfD~ We would have shuffle board,
THE CHAIRMAN: How about saftball.
JACK SHERWO00: Possibilitys if the funds are ~here. We would
have soft balls v~ balls that sort uf thin~.
MR, B~RGEN: Did you sa~ something about movies before?
JACK SHERWOOD: Possibly, yess o~ Occass~,
THE CHAIRMAN: What kind of regular meetings or membership will
OyOU have.
JACK SHERWOOD~ Anyone who wants to ,owes mmv come. That type
of membership,
THE CHAIRMAN: This would be for temn-agers?
JACK SHERWO(~): Yes.
THE CHAI~MAN= What would be c~sidered teen-ager?
JACK SHERWOC~: Thirteen years to 19 years old,
THE CHAIPJ~LN: Will the meetings be once a ~eks twice a week?
Have you given any thought to that?
JACK SHERWOOD: I don't know if there will be any such thing as
a regular meetin9. The club will be open a couple of hours in the
afternoon. Maybe from 3 o~clock to 5 o~clock. Would be open er,hinDs
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JACK SHERWO(~: (con't) : on o~cassion. The plan is now, Friday
evenlngs someplace to 90 after basket-ball 9ames, It may be open
one or two saturdays a month, There won't be a regular thing that
would be every week,
THE CHAIRMAN: This request comes under part of the z0~in9 Ordinance
which authorizes the Board ~f Appeals to 9ra~t a special exception for
clubs~ fraternity houses and golf courses, What do you mean b~ e~ents?
JACK SHERWOCD: We might plan particular events once a monthe
Maybe a little feed~ a speech or film~ or some such activity as ~hate
THE CHAIRMAN: The application reads entertainment for the inoulcatin9
and promotin9 of the inte]~ctual and sooial well bein9 of young people,
Some of that could be educational,
HOWARD TERRE, Building inspector: That could be call educational.
~ACK SHERWOOD: I thought that it would be,
THE CHAIRF~N: The reli§ious book store part of the application is
a secondary activity and would be permitted in these circumstances, This
property adjoins the North Fork Baptist Church, I ass~e that they are
in full accord with thisproject. I am just trying to eliminate any
situation that might 9et out of you hands. This property is in the name
of Stephen Harvey, Of course~ any permission here granted goes with
the land~ not with North Fork Teen Centre~ Inc, If that dissolves~
whoever~ Stephen Harvey is would still have this permission to operate
a club for this purpose.
MR. BERGEN: Can't we state that this special e~ception go~s to
the one granted to and not with theland~
HOWARD TERRY: A special exception goes to the person it is 9ranted
to, A variance goes with the land, With this type of occupancys the
special exception goes with the one it · granted to,
THE CHAIRMAN: Who is Stephen ~nvvey?
JACK SHERWOOD~ He is a businessman located on the west end of
the island. He bought ~his property for the sole purpose that it be
used for this purpose, Some of the people in the North Fork Church
know him better than I do. He has done this in several other places
as welle
THE CHAI~%~AN: Does he come out here s~mers? What is the reason
for doin9 this?
JACK SHERWOOD: I think he knows some of the people in the North
Fork Church.
THE CHAIRMAN: But he actually lives elsewhere?
JACK SHERWOOD: Yes.
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THE CHAIRMAN: What about parkin9 facilities~ Most tenn-a~ers
drive cars,
JACK SHBRWOOD: North Fork Churc~ has a 9ood size parkin9 lot
that will be available for the Centre use.
THE CHAIRMAN: How many cars can be parked in the church parkin9
lot? Presnm-blys the church will not be open at the same time the
youghcentre is.
JACK SHBRWOOD: Probably not, I would 9mess maybe we could park
50 cars,
HOWARD TERRY: Could park 40 to 50 cars,
THE CHAIRMAN: You also have considerable property ~f your
that could be used at night.
JACK SF~RWOOD: Yess it could be.
THE CHAIRMAN: The owner to the wests Mr, ~aisers sold you this
property and is in favor of this project?
JACK SHBRWOCO: I won't say that.
THE CHAIP~AN: presumabl~ he ,:iss he is not objecting,
JACK SHERWOOD: He didn't mn~e any comments,
THE CHAIRMAN: This ~rill not adversely affect property values;
will not cause undue increase of vehicular traffic, Will there be
an orchestra?
JACK SHERWOCD: There will be no such activity as that. I can
assure you that it will be conducted in a nice manner. We will have
rules and regulatiOns, Any kid that doesntt shape up will be asked 1D
leave.
THE CN~IRMAN: The church backs this activity, The entrance
to the property is through the church?
JACK SHERWOOD: The actualyentrance is on the east side of the
property.
THE CHAIRMAN: On ~he road?
JACK SHERWOOD: On the far side of the property, Not on the
church sides on the other side.
THB CHAIRMANy Does anyone else have any questions?
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HOWARD TERRY: We have had quite a few calls on this and when they
found out what it was going to bes they had no objection.
T~E CHAIRMAN: The only conditions it will be necessary to restrict
the use ~f the property to North Fork Teen Centres Inc, as presently
constituted. If that condition is violated~ or if the Board determines
that North Fork Teen Centres Inc., is s~thing elses the permission
can be revoked.
Is there anyone present who ~rishes to speak against this application?
(There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that the
applicant request permission to organizes operate and maintain a
youth centre to provide wholesome recreational activities, meetingss
eventss entertainment for the inculcating and promoting of the
intellectual and social well being of ~oung people. The applicants
North Fork Teen Centres Inc. is a non-profit orgainization with
an evangelic motive. A seco~dary activity of the youth oe~Ware would
~e the -=le of religious books. Any surplus resulting from th~ sale
of books would be turned back into the operation of the Centre.
The Board finds that the property in question adjoins property
~f the North Fork Baptist Church. Said chuch is in full accord with
said use of the property in questions There will be no increase in
traffic resulting from this use. There are adequate parking facilities
available. The use will not cause disturbing emissions of noise.
There is sufficient area on this property for the use intended by the
applicant.
The Board finds that the public convenience and we]fare and
justice will be served and the legally established or permitted
use of neighborhood property and adjoining use districts will not
be permanently or substantially injured and the spirit of the
OrdiDance will be observed.
It is the opinion of the Board this is a highly acceptable
activity and should be granted.
On motion by Mr, Bergen, seconded by Mr, Gillispie, it was
RESOLVED North Fork Teen Centres Inc.s Middle Road~ County
Road 27~ Mattituck, New Yorks be granted permission to operate
a club as outlined in the application and record of the hearin9,
A condition of granting this permission is such permission is
only gr~nted to North Fork%~-~ Te~n C~ntle~ as constituted. If the
Board finds that this condition is violatedj or that North Fork Teen
Centre~Inc. constitutes other tha~ whatwas presented at the hearing,
this permission shall no longer exist.
Looatfon of property: west side Middle Road-C.R. 27, Mattituck,N.Y.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie~ Mr, Bergen, Mr. Grigonis.
'Southold Town Board of Appeals -8- September 19s 1968
On motion by Mr. Gillispies seconded by Mr. Berg*ns it was
RBSOLR~D that the Southold Town Board of Appeals s~t 7=30 P.M.
(E.D.S.T.)~ Thursdays October 3s 1966s at the Towll C~fioes H~i- Road
~outholds New Yorks as the tim~ and place of hearing upon application
of Beatrice Me Wasson and Irvin9 l~ahns D~B~A Rollingwood Estatess
I~cOniC Bay Blvd. s Laurels New Yorks for .approval of access to private
road in accordance with the ~tate of New York Town Laws Section 280Ae
Location of property: private road off north side of PecOnic Bay ~lve.
Laurels New Yorks bounded north by A. Wiloenskis east by H. Rom~nowskls
Vaupels south by Peco~L~o Bay Blvd. s west by G. &.T. ~ Diaoh~ul.
Vote of the Board: Ayes.*- ALL
motion by Mr. Grigoniss seconded by Mr. Gillispies it was
RESOLVED that the $outhold Town Board of Appeals set 7.*45
(E.D,$.T.)s ~sday~ ~to~r 3s 1968s at the T~ ~f~ces ~in Ro~s
~uthold~ ~w York~ as the ti~ ~ pl~e ~ ~ upon application
~ W. Corey ~d Eliza~t T. ~bertson~ Wells A~n~ Son,holds New
Yorks for a v~i~oe in accord~oe with the ~n~9 ~d~oes ~t~cle
IIIs ~ction 303s ~ticle III~ ~ction 307~ ~ ~ticle Xs Secti~
I~OA~ for ~r~ss~ to d~vide pro~r~y w~h red,ed
~ati~ ~ pro~rty ~ sou~h s~ Wells Aven~ ~utholds New York~
~d north ~ Wells Aven~ east by J~S. Grad~s~s sou~h ~
Creeks west ~ R.H.
Vote of the Board.* Ayes_ ALL
On motion by Mr. Gillispies seconded by Mr, Grigonlss i~ was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals set 8.*00 P,M.
Southolds New Yorks as the t~me a~d place of hearin9 upon application
of Ac Reilly & So~s, Inn.s Mattitu~cs New Yorks a/c James Ae and Rose
Carleos Pa~k Avenues Mattituoks New Yorks for a var~ in accordance
with the Zoning Orchi~lances Article IIIs Section 303s a~t Article Xs
Section 1000As for permission to divide lot with reduce area arid bu/ld
new one family dwelling. Looatio~ of property= south side Park Avenue
Mattituoks New Yorks bounded north by Park Avenues east by Daniel Ot
Ca~nells south by Peconic Bays west by Me Laurino.
Vote of the Board= Ayes=- ALL
On motion by Mr. Bergens seconded by Mr. Grigontss it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals set 8~20
(EeD.SsT.)s Thursdays October 3s 1968s ~ at the Town Qfffices Main
Roa~s Southolds New Yorks a~ the time and place of hearing upon
application of A. Reily & Sonss Inoes Mattitucks New Yorks
Laurlnos Park Avenues Mattitucks New Yorks for a variance in accordance
with the Zon/ng Ordinance, Article IIIs Section 303s and Article Xs Sect/l~n
IO00As for perm~ssio~ to divide lot with re~u~ed area a~d build now one
£am/ly dwelling. Location of property: south side Park Avenues Mattituck
New Yorks bounded north by Park Avenues east by Rose Carl*os south by
Peoonic BaYs west by Donald $wahne
Vote of the Board = Ayes:- All
Southold Town Board of Appeals -9- Septemberlg~ 1968
motion by Mr. Bergens seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVBD that the Southold Town Board ~f Appeals set 8:30
(E.D.S.T.), Thursday, October 3, 1968, at the Town Of~ioe~ Main Road,
Southold, New Yor~, as the time and place of hearin9 upen application
of George W, Smith & Sons, Inc., Southold, New York, a/c Raymond
Melhado, 20 Wendell Street, Hempsteads New York, for a vaxianoe in
accordance with the Zonino Orclinance~ Article IIIs Section ~06, for pe~misslon
t o build new one family dwelli~ with reduced front yard setback on lot
with less than 12,500 square feet of area. Location of ~operty~
corner of Kennyts Road and Wesland Road, Southold,New York, bounded
north by Ruth Gibson, east by Helen White, south by Wesland Roads west
by Kenny~s Road.
Vote of the Board: ~%ves:- ALL
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mrs Gillispies it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals set 9~00 P.M
(E.D.SoT.)s Thursday~ October 3, 1968,at the Town Office, Main Road,
Uoutholds New Yorks as the time and place of hearing upon application
of Mrs. Raymond Edwardss Sr. s Hedge Street, Fishers Islands New York,
for a special exception in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article
III, Section 300s Subsection 5 (c)s for permissiOn to erect two
f,mily dwelling on lot with less than require~ frontage and area.
Location of property: private right of way, Fishers Islands New York,
bounded north by Ha~ry Hurlburt and another, east by private road,
south by private roads west by West Harbor,
Vote of the Board= Ayes=- ALL/
On motion by Mr, Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals set 9:15
(E.D.S.T.)s Thursday, october 3, 1968~ at the Town Office, M~4. Road,
$outhold, New Yorks as the t~me and place of hearin9 upon applicatiOn
of Ernest Raclford, Main Road, East Marion, New Yorks for approval
of access to private road in accordance with the State of New York
To~ Laws Section 280A. LOcation of property= private road off w~s~
side of Bay Avenue, East Marion, New Yorks bounded north by Brown,
RadfOrds and Rackett, east by Bay Avenues south by Washburn, and
Marion Lakes west by W. Brooks Estate.
Vote of the BOaxd: Ayes:- ALL
The meetin9 was adjourned.
Respec~ully submitted,
Barbara C. Dittm~nns Secretary
Southold Town Board of Appeals