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SOUTHOLD, L, I., N. Y.
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APPEAL BOARD
MEMBERS
Robert W. GiHispie, Jr., Chairman
Robert Bergen
Charles Gregoni% Jr.
Serge Doyen, Jr.
Fred Hulse, Jr.
M I'N U~T E'S
SOUTHOT,~ .TOWN BOARD' OP APPEALS
December 3. 1964
A regular meeting~of the Southold Town ~Board of Appeals
was held.at 7:30,PjM*'~ Thursday~ December~3~ 1964~ at'the
Town Office~ Main~Road~ Southold~ New York,
There were present: Messrs: Robert~W. Gillispie~ Jr.~ Chairman;
Robert Bergen~ Serge Doyen~ Jr.~ Fred,,~ulse, Jr.
Absent: Charles Grigonis~ Jr.
PUBLIC,HEARING: Appeal~ No. 726 - 7:30 P~'M%~E~S~.'~ Upon
application of Daniel Smith~ Southold~ New Yorkr a/c Thomas
Pepp~ Kenney~s Road & Soundview"Avenue~ Southold~ New Yorke for
a special exception in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance~
Article III~ Section 306~ for permission to build an addition
to the existing dwelling with insufficient front yard setback,
Location of property: northwest corner Soundview Av~nue¢.and
Kenney~s Roadr Southold¢ New York, bounded north by'DCAntonio-
Pepp¢ east byKenney~s Roadr south by"Soundview Avenue~ west by
Scriever-Great Pond, Fee pmid $5°00°
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The Chairman opened the hearingbFreading the application
for a special exception~ legal notice ofhearing, affidavit
attesting to its publication in the official newspaper, and
notice to the applicant.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present whowishes to speak
in favor of this application?
DANIEL SMITH'~ Southold: I represent the owners. The idea
of building out like this on an angle is to keep from covering
the kitchen window.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is this going to have a cellar under the
building?
DANIEL SMITH: There is a cellar under part of the house.
L(TheChairman explained to Mr. Smith the reason a special
exception was needed to build an addition to the existing
dwelling on this~lot.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application2
{There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
Daniel Smith a/c Thomas Pepp request permission to build an
addition to the existing dwelling with insufficient front
yard setback. The Beard finds that this addition will be
29 feet from the road on Soundview Avenue. The Board feels
that this is a reasonable request and the reduction in the
setback will not cause a traffic problem at the intersection
of Seundview Avenue and Kenney~s Road. The Board also finds
that the addition will be 56 feet from Kenney~s Road.
TheBoard finds that the public convenience and welfare and
justice will be served and the legally established or permitted
use of neighborhood property and adjoining use districts will not
be permanently or substantially injured and the spirit of the
Ordinance will be observed.
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On motion by Mr. Gillie.pie, seconded by Mro Bergen~ it was
RESOLVED that~Daniel Smith~ Southold~ New York, a/c Thomas
Pepp~ Kenney~s Road and~Soundview Avenue~ Southold~ New York~
be given permission to build an addition to the existing dwelling
with insufficient front yard setback on property located north-
west corner Soundview Avenue and Kenney~s Road~. Southold~ New
York.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-Mr. Gillispie~ Mr. Bergen~ Mr. Doyen~
and Mr. Hulseo
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 727 -- 7:45 P.-M.'~EST)~ Upon
application of Long Island LightingCompany~ 1650 IslipAvenue~
Brentwood~ New York~ for a special exception in accordance with
the Zonin~ Ordinance, Article IV~ Section 408~ Subsection
for permission to erect a sign. Location ~of property: north
side Main Road,-Arshamomaque~ New York~ bounded north by~Stepnoski,
east by B. Ciacia~ south byMain Road~ west by Drossos-Rempe.
Fee paid $5.00°
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading application for
a special exception, legal notice of hearing, affidavit attesting
to its publication in the official newspaper~d notice to the
applicant.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there 9nyone present who wishes to speak
in favor of this application~
~R. PERRY HATCH, Representative of Long Island Lighting
Company: Gentlemen and Chairman of the Board~ I represent the
Long Island Lighting Company. The reason we would like to
install this sign is for idenification. We spent approximately
one million and one-hal~ dollars on this installation which is
500 feet back from the road. We are proud of it and we would
like ver~ ~much to have this sign for idenification and advertising
purposes so that the residents and citizens are aware of this
installat-ion, We also have a conforming sig~.~. A 6~ x 8® ground
sign at the entrance of the driveway. This sign will say "LILCO
SERVICE". It is the type of sign we are trying to install in
most of our installations on Long Island.
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December 35~1964
THE CHAIRMAN: Is some of this property that the Long Island
Lighting Company owns in a "B" Business District?
PERRY HATCH: The first 200 feet of the property is business~
the rest is in an "A" District.
We are hopeful that this sign will make the plant more
attractive. That is our reason for asking for the special
exception.
THE CHA~: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
CThere was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Are there any questions?
ARNOLD LARSEN~ Peconic: Just speaking as a resident, in
connection with the installation, I think that the sign will be
an improvementon the property. They have done a beautiful job
on the property.
THE CHAIRMAN: Are there any other questions?
(There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
Long Island Lighting Company wishes to place a sign on a
cylindrical tank at their generating station in Arshamomaque.
This sign will read "LILCO SERV~E"~ and will be four feet
high and sixteen feet long. This sign will be for indenification
and advertising purposes. The Board is of the opinion that this
sign will be an improvement on the property. It should also
be pointed out that this zs the type of sign that Long Island
Lighting Company wishes to use on all of its generating stations.
The Board finds that the public convenience and welfare and
justice will be served and the legally established or permitted
use of neighborhood property and adjoining use districts will not
be permanently'or substantially injured and the spirit of the
Ordinance will be observed.
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December 3~-~1964
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Hulse, it was
RESOLVED Long IslandLighting Company, 1650 Islip Avenue~
Brentwood~ New Yorkt be granted permission to erect a sign
44 high by 16' long on a cylindrical tank at their generati~
station located north side Main Road~ Arshamomaque, New York°
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mro Gillispie~ Mr. Bergen, Mr. Doyen~
and Mr, Hulseo
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 728 - 8:00 P.M.~.S.'T.), Upon
application of'Christian Simonsen Estate~ Oak and BirchAvenue~
Southold, New York, for a variance in accordance with the
Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 303~ and Article X~ Section
1000A, for permission to divide and sell lots with insufficient
frontage. Location of property: west side BirchAvenue~ east
side oak Avenue~ Goose Bay Estates~ Lots No. southwest one-half
of 228~229,230~ and south west one half of 251,252,253~ Southold,
New York~ Fee paid $5.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading application for
a variance~ legal notice of hearing~ affidavit attesting to its
publication in the official newspaper, and notice to the applicant.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
in favor of ~his application?
ARNOLD LARSEN: I represent the applicant. The reason for
this application is the applicant would like to make additional
income and have access to the Main Road. He could have an
additional income from this property.
THE CHAIRMAN: Which road do you refer to as the main road?
ARNOLD LARSEN: Oak Avenue.
ERNEST CHRISTENSEN~ Goose Bay Estates: Is lot number 254
included in this application?
AR/~OLD LARSEN: Yes~ it is included.
ERNEST CP~ISTENSEN: So that there is a split in the
property.
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ARNOLD~ARSEN: There is no split in the property.
CThere was some d~screpancy in regaled to the size of the
lots in question. The board viewed the tax map. These lots
seem to be 10' or 20' on the road, and they all have numbers.
It was determined that the applicant has 3½ lots on Oak Avenue
and the total frontage is 60 feet.)
ARNOLD LARSEN: Where the existing house is now, we are
not concerned with. He wants to put another house on the
back of this property. It would be the same size. This
property is on a definite road on a filed map. If these people
have the same size lot, without the back, why can't this man
divide the property and put this house bach here for income
purposes. If he can't he doesn't want to buy the property.
THE CHAIRMAN: He wants to rent the house?
ARNOTJD LARSEN: Yes, for income purposes. There is other
property that has the same area as this. Why should this man
not be allowed to build? This is a separate piece of property
and is taxed.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone else who wishes to speak in
favor of this application?
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: is the~e anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
FRANK HUNDLEY: I am a property owner of Goose Bay Estates,
a Real Estate Broker fDr MIL-I~ATTAgency in Mattituck, and
secretary-treasurer of Goose Bay'Civic Association. I would
like to give you a little back ground if I may. This originated
in 1934, starting out as a summer colony, and on this map there
are some 300 lots varying from 20 feet by 122 feet deep and 140
feet deep that split the property up in some pieces.
THE CHAIRMAN: The map was made part of the Ordinance, dated
1948.
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December 3~- 1964
HOWARD TERRY: Goose Bay Estates is not part of the Ordinance.
Goose Neck was made part fof the Ordinance.
FRAN~ HUNDLEY: The original map was in 1934. In this
development there is Cedar Avenue~ all of these other roads~
even if we wanted to give to the Town are too narrow. We have
no specifications. At the present moment there are 50 property
owners on the tax roll. The Goose Bay Estates Association was
established in 1948. It was established by the property owners
to maintain the value of their investment and up hold the
character of the community. Since that time they have maintained
the roads, maintained the beach, and dug the channel. These people
have spent up to $20.00 in addition to paying taxes each year.
Of the 50 property owners, 31 are good standing members of the
Civic Association.
THE CHAIRMAN: What do you mean by good standing members ?
FRANK PIUND?~Y: They are active members paying dues.
There are 47 houses in this area on this map. Twenty-two of
these houses developed by the owners continue as year around
houses, so that this is no longer a summer cottage colon~{~~
Matter of fact, if it is anything~ it is a year around colony.
I have here a map~ta copy of the map that you are looking
at. Most of the lines have been eliminated so that you can see
what the situation is in reference to the location of property and
location of houses.
(Mr. Hundley presented the Board with a map.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Is this a tracing of the Town Map?
FRASE<HUNDLEY: That shows the location of the houses. It
also shows the houses that are year around. I think by looking
at that map~ you willsee that the piece of land in question is
one of the smallest in the community~ and if it is divided, it
will become even smaller.
THE CHAIRMAN: Do you mean the frontage or the total area is
smaller than the rest of the property on this map?
FRANK HUSE)LEY: The total area.
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MR. DOYEN: Is the frontage and the total area smaller
than the average lot?
FRANK ~LEY: If you take the figures 60* x 240', it
gives you an area of 14,400 square feet. The present zoning
ordinance requires 12,500 square feet. If this lot is divided
in two, it will be 7,200 square feet.
THE CHAIRMAN: This map of Goose Bay Estates is not part
of the Zoning Ordinance, but it is a filed map.
FRANK HUNDLEY: We feel that this situation is not unique
to this lot. The lot ne~t to it has the same problem and the lot
next to that has the same problem.
THE CHAIRMAN: W~aat would be the difference between this lot
and the lot here on the water? ~ointed to the map)
FRANK HUNDLEY: To split property up in these small pieces
goes against the Zoning Ordinance, especially in view of the
problem we are having with water and cesspool disposal. It
seems request can be made to this Board to split up lots and
make them smaller. We are very much against this. If you
agree to it, than we would have no reason not to do it. If you
were to grant this here on this property, we would have no
agrument anywhere else. You would very easily d~uble the number
of houses that can be pug in on the empty lots. We do not think
this is your intentions. I would like to say further that we
have to maintain these private roads and there is no compulsion
on any person to maintain tke roads. This Birch Road is a
narrow track. This road Hickory didn't exist. We have recently
paved this piece at our own expense.
-we feel that it w~uld be best not to grant this variance.
We believe it is m~ch better as a group. We do not believe it
is necessary to divide this property in order to get a valuable
return. It is possible to sell it as it iSo
THE CHAIRMAN: You are probably familiar with the fact tt~t
it is necessary to prove unusual difficulty, unique hardship,
and not change the character of the district. I think your
remarks have been s~ressed to the first two proposals. I don~t
think that here the character for the neighborhood would be
changed.
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December 3;~'/ 1964
THE'CPL~IRMAN: Would someone else wish to ~ress the Board
against this application2
HAROLD Lj SMITH: I own property on Oak~Aven~e~ not far from
the property in question. I understand it is necessary for the
applicant to meet three requirements. I think Mr. Hundley did
pointout in some respect the granting of this-application would
alter character. If this variance is 9ranted~ it would establish
precedence for other lots of smaller or larger size. I expect
to make my home here.
TRE CHAIRMAN: What is the size of your lot?
MR. SMITH: It is SOs by 140~. I have four of the 20' lots.
There are several people who have made their homes in this
community. They startedout with summer cottages and improved
them for the characterof the community, greatly improving it
for several years. To put alot of smaller houses on the property
would certainly depreciate the area.
MR. HUNDLEY: I would like to mention the great strain on
our water supply. We all know that the water level has gone
down. We are now afraid of the salt water and cesspools coming
into the wells. I would like to point out since the principal
-reason for the request is for reduction in property, the variance
does not show hardship. If he can'~t get this variance, he isn't
going to make as much as he would if he is granted this variance.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone else who wishes to speak
against this application?
MR. WT~ANN: Goose Bay Estates:, Ail of our reasons for
being against this have been given. ~(Mr.~ Wiemann also went
into the problem of the water supply in Southold Town. )
MR.' ~HULSE: Where is your lot and how large is it?
MR. NT~.~3~NN: It is on the corner of Oak and Pine Streets.
It is 90 feet by 120 feet.
There was some discussion about the decrease in water supply.
Mr. Wiemann also brought out the problem of detergents seeping
into the ground and contaminating the water.
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Dec~mber 3 ~i1964
THECHAIRMA~: Does anyone else wish to speakagainst this
application?
JOSEPH DROOGAN~ ~Goose Bay Estates: I have six lots in
back of my property and I don't intend to build on them, I have
had them for almost 30 years now, and you will never see a house
back there. We bought his property with the aim of protecting
our water supply.
T~ECHAIRMAN: That is admirable of you, however, some day
you may be faced with the problem of disposing of this lot.
You see, you are a long time resident and you have kept that
lot free and clear. What happens when your administratorcomes
along and does not have the same opinion or same feelings as you
do.
ARNOLD LARSEN: This particular gentlemen spoke of buying
a lot and holding onto it to protect his investment. Real estate
is for sale. Mr. Wiemann is concerned with the water supply.
He moved from a 17 acre place down to a lot 90' by 140z, so he
should have thought of that. He can't be too worried about the
water problem.
I don't know if that is a true map you have there. We have
a tax map and we have a drawing.
TME CHAIRMAN: The tax map can often be wrong.
ARNOI.D LARSEN: I think that the house that we are going
to build will be just as good if not better than the houses that
are there now. This man is going to improve the property. ~The
small house is run down, and I have a buyer to fix that %house
and build another house on the back. I think he has a right to have
income property.
THE CHAIRMAN: When you get into twD houses on a piece of
property you get into a situation so~t of like a cottage colony°
FRANK HUNDLEY: May I remind the Board that we have presented
a case where this should not be granted because it does not show
that the property is exceptional or unique. I believe that we
have shown that there is not an absolute necessity to divide this
piece of land in order to get a suitable return. I believe that
we have shown that granting this variance will lead to other
variances which will very definitely change ~nd alter the character
of the area.
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GOTTLIEB NICKLES, Real Estate broker, Southold: I made an
appraisal from the survey from Otto Van Tuyl. I am in the Real
Estate business and we had a bid on this property.
HAROLD SMITH: I think Lthat we have shown that he can
make more money with this variance and that is why he is
requestin~ it.
ARNOT.D LARSEN: It is on a filed map and there is a definite
line provided at the property. Not everyone is going to hold
their property for ever and not build on it. You are allowed to
build if they are separate lots and this is on a road. This is
an asset and will increase the ~value of the property.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone else who would like to
speak one way or the other in connection with this application?
(There was no response.)
T~r~. CHAIRMAN: I will reserve decision on this application
in order that the Board may look at a survey of this property.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Hulse,it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the Southold Town Board of
Appeals dated November 5,1964, be approved as submitted.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Doyen,
and Mr. Hulse.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Hulse, it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the Southold Town Board of
Appeals dated November 19, 1964, be approved as submitted.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Doyen,
and Mr. Hulse.
Southold Town Board of ApPeals
-12- 'December 3 ;/1964
The Board received a letter fr~m William Wickham, Esq.,
requesting information as to the status of houses on the
Middle Road where land has been taken for the road. The Chairman
felt that the Town Attorney should be consulted in this matter.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Bergen~ it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of'Appeals set 7:30 P.Mj~
(E.'S.T$), Thursday, December 17~ 1964, at the Town Office, Main
Road, Southold, New York, as time and place of hearing upon
application of Valentine W.~ Stype, Main Road~ Mattituck, New York~
for a special exception in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance,
Article III, Section 300, Subsection 11, for permission to erect
an advertising sign on the property of~EdnaAndrews. Location of
property: south side Main Road, Laurel, New York, bounded north
by Main Road, east by Fleischmann-Kahn, south by Long Island Rail~
road, west by Chas. McNulty.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Doyen,
and Mr. Hulse.
On motion by Mr. Bergen, seconded by Mr. Doyen,it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Boar dof Appeals set 7:~ P. Mo~,
~(E.'S.T.'), Thursday, December 17, 1964, at the Town Office, Main
Road, Southold, New York, as time and place of hearing upon
application of John Haponic, Southold, New York,. a/c Mario Franzone,
Arshamomaque Avenue, Southold, New York, for a variance in accord-
ance with the Zoning Ordinances. Article III, Section 307, for per-
mission to construct an addition to the existing ~welling with
insufficid~nt side yards. Location of property: east side
Arshamomaque Avenue, Be~idon Estates, Lot~$I~, Southold, New York.
vote of the Board:-Ayes:-Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Doyen,
and Mr. Hulse.
On motion by Mr. Doyen, seconded by Mr. Hulse, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals set 8:00
~S~T%), Thursday, December 17, 1964~ at the Town Office, Main
Road, Southold, New York, as time and place of hearing upon application
of Donald R. Gildersleeve~ Wickham Avenue, Mattituck, New York, for
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December 3, 19~
a variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article III,
Section 303, Article X, Section 1000A~ for permission to reduce
frontage of lot. Location of property: west side Wickham Avenue,
Mattituck, New York, bounded north by E~A. Woodward, east by
Wickham Avenue, south by Annie Tuthill, west by JOhn Keogr.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Gillispie, Mr* Bergen, Mr. Doyen~i
and Mr. Hulse~
On motion by Mr. Hulse, seconded byMrl Gillispie, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board or'Appeals set 8:15
!(E.'S.Tj), Thursday, December 17, 1964, at the Town Office, Main
Road~ Southold, New York, as time and place of hearing upon appli-
cation of Mar3orie Douglass, King Street, Orient, New Mork~ for
a variance in accordance with the Zoning O~dinance, Article III,
Section 303, 304, 307, and Article X~. Section 1000A~ for permission
to divide and sell property with insufficient frontage. Location
of property: south side King Street, Orient, New York, bounded
north by'King Street,. east by other land of Marjorie Douglass,
south by Robert'Douglass, west by Nelson Douglass Estate.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen~ Mr. Doyen~
and Mr. Hulse.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie~ seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of~Appeals set 8:45
CE, S. Tj), Thursday, December 3~ 1964, at the Town Office, Main Road,
Southold, New York, as time and place of hearing upon application
of Lefferts P. Edson, Esq.~ Southold, New York~ a/c Lounsberry
Estate, Southold, New Yor~ for a variance in accordance with the
Zoning Ordinance~ Article III~ Section 303, Article X, Section
1000A~ for permission to divide property. Location of property:
north side Soundview Avenue, Southold, New York,. bounded north
by Pohl-Lounsberz~,east by other land of~Lounsberry~ south by
Sou~dview Avenue, west by other land of Lounsberry.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-~r. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Doyen~
and Mr~ Hulse.
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PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 729 - 8:15 P.Mj',(E.S~T.'),. Upon
application of James P~ Manning, 1 Chase Manhatta~ Plaza, New
York, New York, a/cRace Point Corp.~ Fishers Island, New York,
for a variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article
III, Sections 303, 304, and 307, and Article X~ Section 1000A,
for permission to set off lot with existing building with insufficient
setback and sideyard. Location of property: west side Winthrop
Drive, Fishers Island, New York, bounded north by Govern~ant
property, east byWinthrop Drive, south by Government property,
west by'Silver Eel Cove. Fee paid $5.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing byreading application
for a variances legal notice of hearing, affidavit attesting
to its publication in the official newspaper, and notice to
the applicant.
THE CHA/_RMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
in favor of this application?
James P. Manning, Esq., was present at the hearing but had
no~hing further to add to the application.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
i(There was no response.)
After investigation and insppction the Board finds that
the appticantwishes to set off a lot with an existing dwelling.
The Board is in agreement with the applicant. It will be a
unique hardship to deny the sale of this property for residential
purposes. It will tend to up grade the use of the property,
formally used as a pump house. There is no wayeconomically to
adhere to the requirements of the Zoning Ordinance. The structure
on the lot is brick, and is not readily moved. There is no
possible way to enlarge the lot. Accordingly, it is the opinion
of the Board that this will not change the character of the
neighborhood. The building in question has not been in ~se for
approximately 10 years. The purchaser wishes to improve the
property.
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December 5, 1964
The Board finds that strict application of'the Ordinance
will produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created is unique and would not be shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property
and~in the same use district; and the variance does observe the
spirit of the Ordinance and will not change the character of
the district.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Hulse, it was
RESOLVED that James P. Manning,. i Chase Manhattan Plaza,
New Yor~, New York, a/c Race Point Corp., FiShers Island,
New York, be granted permission to set off lot with existing
dwelling with insufficient setback and sideyard requirements,.
on property located west side Winthrop D~ive,Fishers Island,
New York.
VOTE OF TP~E Board: Ayes:-Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Doyen,
and Mr. Hulse.
.PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal NO. 730 - 8:30 P.'M%'~(E~S~T.~), Upon
application of James P. Manning, 1 Chase Manhattan Plaza, New
York, New York,a/c Race Point Corp., Fishers Island, New ~ork,
for a variance in accordance withthe Zoning Ordinance, Article iii,
Section 303, and Article X, Section 1000A, for permission to
divide property with insufficient frontages Location of pro-
perty: south side Winthrop Drive, Fishers Island, New York,
Lot~$11 on proposed subdivision map by Chandler and Palmer
dated April 22, 1964, bounded and described as follows: Begin-
ning at a drill hole in the walk on the southeasterly line of
Winthrop Drive, said drill hole being south 62°21~ west 679.95
feet from the sou~westerly line of Equestrian Avenue, said drill
hole also being 466.98 feet north of a point which is 5046.28
feet-west of said "PROS" monument and thence running along said
Winthrop Drive line North 62°21' east 72.70 feet to a drill hole;
thence south 27°39' east 183.80' feet; thence south 62:R1~ west
72.70 feet, themce north 27:39~ west 183.80 feet to the point
of beginning, containing 0.30 acres more or less. Fee paid $5.00.
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December 3,~1964
The Chairman opened the hearing by readingapplication for
a variance, legal noticeof hearing, affidavit attesting to its
publication in the official newspaper~ and notice to the applicant°
THE CPL~IRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
in favor of this application?
James P. Mann~ng/waE present at the hearing by had nothing
further to add to the application.
THE CPLAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
the applicant wishes to divide property with insufficient
frontage and area. The Board agrees with the reasoning of
the applicant. There is no way to enlarge this lot. This
property was contracted by the Federal Government and not
subject to any zoning O~dinance. The situation that exist
will not change the character of the area; it will improve
the neighborhood.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance
will produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created is unique and would not be shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of t~is property
and in the same use district; and the variance does observe
the spirit of the Ordinance and will not change the character
of the district.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded ~?~by Mr. Hulse, it was
RESOLVED that James P. Manning, t Chase Manhattan Plaza,
New York, New York, a/c Race Point'Corp., Fishers Island, New
York, be granted permission to divide property with insufficient
frontage on property located south side Winthrop Drive , Fishers
Island, New York, lot $11 on proposed subdivision map by'Chandler
and Palmer dated April 22, 1964.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Mr. Gillispie, Mr2 Bergen~ Mr. Doyen,
and Mr. Hulse.
Southold Town Board of Appeals ~17- December 3, 1964
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 731 - 8:40 PJM~[E~S,T.), Upon
application of James P. Manning~ 1 Chase Manhattan Plaza, New York,
New York, a/c Race Point,Corp., Fishers Island, New York, for a
variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article III,
Section 303, and Articte X, Section 1000A, for permission to
divide property with insufficient frontage. Location of property:
south side Winthrop Drive, Fishers Island, New York~ Lot'S12, on
propesed subdivision map byChandler and Palmer dated April122,
1964, bounded and described as follows: Beginning at a drill
hole in the walk on the southeasterly line of Winthrop Drive,
said drill hole being south 62~ 21~ west 524.65 feet from the
southwesterly line of Equestrian Avenue, said drill hole also
being 534.41 feet north of a point which is 4917.57 feet west
of a monument marking the United States Coast and Geodetic
Survey Triangulation Station "PROS" and thence running along
said Winthrop Drive line south 62~ 21' west 72.60 feet oto a
drill hole; thence south 27~ 39' east 183.80 feet; thence north
62° 21' east 72.60 feet; thence north 27~ 39~ west 183.80 feet
to the point, of beginning, containing 0.30 acres more or less.
Fee paid-S5.00.
The'Chairman opened the hearing by readimg application for
a variance, legal notice of hearing, affidavit attesting to its
publication in the official newspaper, and notice to the applicant.
THE C~AIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
in favor of this application2
James P. Manning, Esq., was present at the hearing but had
no~hing further to add to the application.
THE CHA/RMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
~(There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
the applicant wishes to divide property with insufficient
frontage and area. The Board agrees with the reasoning of the
applicant. There is no way to enlarge this lot. This property
was contracted by the Federal Governmentand not subject to
any zoning ordinance. The situation that exist will not change
the character of the area; it will improve the neighborhood.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -18- December 3, 1964
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance
will produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created is unique and would not be shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property
a~d in the same use district; and the variance does observe
the spirit of the ordinance and will not change the character
of the district.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Doyen, it was
RESOLVED that James P. Manning, 1-Chase Manhattan Plaza,
New York, New York, a/c Race point Corp., Fishers Island,
New York, be granted per~/ssion to divide propertywith in-
sufficient frontage on property located south side Winthrop
Drive, Fishers Island~ New York, lot $12, on proposed subdivision
map by Chandler and Palmer, dated April 22,1964.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-Mro Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr. Doyen,
and Mr. Hulse.
PUBLIC PIEARING: Appeal No. 732 - 8:50 P.'M.-i(E. SjT.), Upon
application of James P. Manning, 1 Chase Manhattan Plaza, New
York, New York, a/c'Race Point'Corp., Fishers Island, New York,
for a variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article
III, Section 303, and Article X, Section 1000A, for permission
to divide property with insufficient frontage. Location of pro-
perry: south side Winthrop Drive, Fishers Island, New York, Lot
$13~ on proposed subdivision map by Chandler & Palmer,dated
April 22, 1964, bounded and described as follows: Beginning at
a drill hole in the walk on the southeasterly line of Winthrop
Drive, said drill hole being south 62° 21~ west 447.15 feet
from the southwesterly line of Equestrian Avenue, said drill
hole'~J, also being 570.37 feet north of a point which is 4848.92
feet west of said "PROS" monument and thence running south
27° 39' east 183.80 feet; thence south 62°21~ west 77.50 feet;
thence north 27° 39' west 183.80 feet; thence along said
Winthrop Drive line north 62~ 21~ east '77°50 feet to,he point
of beginning~ containing 0.33 acres more or less. Fee paid
$5.00.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -19- December 3, 1964
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading application for
a variance, legal notice ofhearing, a~fidavit attesting to its
publication in the official newspaper, and notice to the applicant.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present at this time who wishes
to speak in favor of this application?
James p. Manning, Esq., was present at this hearing but had
nothing further to add to the application.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to ~speak
against this application?
~There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
the applicant wishes to divide property with insufficient
frontage and area. The Board agrees with the reasoning of the
applicant. There is noon,way to enlarge this lot. This property
was contracted by the Federal Government and not subject to
any zoning Ordinance. This situation that exist will not change
the character of the area; it will improve the neighborhood.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance
will produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created is unique and would not be shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property
and in the same use district; and the variance does observe
the spirit of the Ordinance and will not change the character
of the district.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED that James P. Manning, 1 Chase Manhattan Plaza, New
York, New York, a/c Race Point Corp.~ Fishers Island~ New York,
be granted permission to divide property with insufficient frontage
on property located south side Winthrop Drive, Fishers Island, New
York, lot'$13, on proposed subdivision map by Chandler & Palmer
dated April 22, 1964.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-Mr. Gillispie, M~. Bergen, Mr. Doyen,
and Mr. Hulse.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -2~-- December 3,-1964
PUBLIC HEAR~G: Appeal No. 733 - 9:00 P.'M.'i(E.'SiTi), Upon
application of James P.Manning, 1 Chase Manhattan Plaza, New
York, New York, a/c Race Point Corp., Fishers Island, New York,
fora variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article
III, Section 303, and Article X, Section 1000A, for permission
to divide property with insufficient frontage. Location of
property: south side Winthrop Drive, Fishers Island, New York,
lot'$14, on proposed subdivision map byChandler and Palmer
dated April 22, 1964, and bounded and described as follows:
beginning at a drill hole in the walk on the southeasterly line
of Winthrop Drive, said drill hole being 62° 21~ west 354.50
feet from the southwesterly line of Equestrian Avenue, said
drill hole also being 613.37 feet north of a point which is
4766.85 feet west of a monument marking the United States Coast
and Geodetic Sumvey Triangulation Station "PROS" and thence
running along said Winthrop Drive line south 62° 21~ west
92.65 feet to a drill hole; thence south 27°39~ east 183.80
feet; thence north 62Q 21~ east 80.20 feet to a monument; thence
north 23Q 46' west 184.30 feet to the point of beginning~
cont~ing 0.36 acres more or less. Fee paid $5.00.
TheChai~man opened the hearing by reading application for
a variance~ legal notice of hearing, affidavit attesting to its
publication in the official newspaper, and notice ~'the applicant.
THE CHAIRMAN~ Is There anyone present who wishes to speak
in favor of this application?
James P. Manning, Esq., was present at the hearing, but
had nothing .further to add to the application .
THE C~~ Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against hthis application?
(There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
the applicant-wishes to divide property with insufficient
frontage and area& The Board agrees with the reasoning of the
applicant. There is no way to enlarge this lot. This property
was contracted by the Federal Government and not subject to
any zoning ordinancej The situation that exist will not change
the character of the area; it will£improve the neighborhood.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -21- December 3~ 1964
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance
will produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created is unique and would not be shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property
and in the same use district; and the variance does observe
the spirit of .the Ordinance and will not change the character
of the district.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by ~Lr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED that James P. Manning, 1 Chase Manhattan Plaza,
New York, New York, a/c Race Point,Corp., Fishers Island, New
York, be granted permission to divide property with insufficient
frontage on property located sou~h side Winthrop Drive, Fishers
Island, New York, lot-$ 14 on proposed subdivision map by
Chandler & Palmer dated.April 22, 1964.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-Mr. Gillispie, Fir. Bergen, Mr. Doyen,
and Mr. Hulse.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 734 - 9:10 PjM%-!~EjS~T,'), Upon
application of James P. Manning, 1 Chase Manhattan Plaza, New
York, New York, a/cRace Point-Corp., Fishers Island, New York,
for a variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article
III, Section 303, Article X, Section 1000A, for permission to
divide property with insufficient frontage. Location of property:
east side Reservoir Road, FishErs Island, New York, lot $t5 on
proposed subdivision map by Chandler and palmer datedApril 22,
1964, bounded and described as follows: Beginninq at an iron
pin on the northeasterly line of Reservoir Road, .said point
being located noeth 27 38~ west 200.63 feet from the intersection
with the northwesterly line of Winthrop Drive, said point ale~
being located 566.71 feet north of a point which is 5406.58 feet
west of said "PROS" monument and thence running north 63:11~ east
1-98.52 feet~to an iron pin; thence north 26: 57' west 90.40
feet to a monument; t~ence south 62* 21~ west 233.90 feet to a
monument at said ~eservoir Road Line; thence along said Reservoir
Road line south 59~ 13' east 43170 feet; thence along said
Rea~line south 46e 13' east 47.88 feet to the point of beginning,
containing 0.~3 acres more or less. Fee paid $.5.00
Southold Town Board of Appeals
-22-
December ~ 1964
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading application
for a variance~ legal notice of hearing,, affi~_vit attesting
to its publication in the official newspaper, and notice to
the applicant.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
in favor of this application?
James P. Manning, Esq. t was present at the hearing
had nothing further to add to the application.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application2
~There was no response.)
After investigation and ~inspection the Board finds that
the applicant wishes to divide property with insufficient
frontage. The Board agrees with the reasoning of the applicant.
This lot is considerably in excess of the mininum square footage,
and although there is no way to increase the footage to meet
the existing footage requirments of the Ordinance, it is proposed
that a residence will be constructed on this lot.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance
will produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created is unique and would not be shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property
and in the same use district; and the variance does observe
the spirit of the Ordinance and will not change the character
of the district.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mro Bergen, it was
RESOLVED that James P. Manning, 1 Chase Manhattan Plazax
New York, New York, a/c Fishers Island, Race Point~Corpo, be
granted permission to divide property with insufficientfrontage,
on property located east side Reservoir Road, Fishers Island,
New York, lot~$15 on proposed subdivision m~p by-Chandler and
Palmer, dated April 22, 1964. This variance is granted subject
to the following condition.
Southold Town Board of Appeals
-23- December ~;~ 1964
1o No side yard variance may be granted in the future in
reducing the present mininum requirements of the zoning Ordinance°
This is without predjudice to any further appeal should the
requirements be reduced.
Vote of the'Board: Ayes: Mr. Gillispie, Mr° Bergen, Mr. Doyen,
and Mro Hulseo
The next meetingof the Southold Town Board of Appeals
will be held at 7:30 P.Mj, Thursday, December 17, at the
Town Office, Main Road, Southold, New York:
Meeting adjourned 10:50
Respectfully submitted,
Barbara v.. Carroza, Secretary