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t. That the said Board of Trustees and the Town of Southold ue reIeosed from any and
all damages, or da!ms foe cWnages. of suits arising directly ot indirec:dy OS . mult of any oper-
.tIoö performed pomuaot to this permit, and the said permittee will, .t his or bet own expense,
defeöd tAy tAd all sUch suits Iolriated by third t>atdes, and the said Puwltttt ....- full I!abI11ty
with test>Oct thereto, to the complete ez:dusioø of the Boud of Trusttes of the Town of ~1d
2. That chis Permit Is yaJid for . period of 24 mas. wbid11s c:oos1deted to be the
estimated timé' required to complete the 'WOrk 1o'f01.ed, but shoald år(UØJStaDCeS warrant, request
for tA exteOSIon may be made to the Board at . later daœ.
~. Tñat chis Permit shoald be retaIoed Iodefloitely, or as long as the said permittee wishes
to ....!oWn the SttUaure or project Iovolved, to provide evidence to anyone concerned that aoth-
,orhatioø was originally obtained.
4. That the work lo'fOlved will be subject to the iospection and approval of the Board or
Its agents, and non-<X>IDp1iance with the provisions of the originating application, -y be cause foe
tevoeatioo of chis PermIt by molution of the said Boørd.
5. That there will be no unreasonable interference with navigatioo as . result of the work
bereIo aUthorized. '
6. That there "'.11 be no Iotederente with the right of the public to pus and repass along
the bead1 between high and low ..aler marks.
7. 'That if future operations of the Town of Southold require the removal and/ot alterations
tn the location of the work berelo authorized, or if, 10 the oplolon of the Boud of Trustees, the,
,.otk shall cause unreasonable ohsttucnon to free navigation, the said permittee will be required,
IIpOII dlle notice, to remove or alter chis work or project berein stated without ez:penses to the Town
!If Southold.
P. That the said Board will be notified by the Permittee 01 the completion of the work auth-
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~. That the Permittee will obtain .11 other permits and consenb that m~y be required sup-
t>lem( nta! to this permit wh1d1 may be suhject to revoke upon failure to obtaIo same.
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Albert J. Krupski, President
James King, Vice-President
\ Artie Foster
Ken Poliwoda
Peggy A. Dicker<on
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'P~O, Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971-0959
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BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
June 6, 2003
Keith 8. Neilson, P.E.
Docko Inc.
PO Box 421
Mystic, CT. 06355
RE: SCTM#9-3-1
Hay Harbor Club
Bell Hill Avenue
Fisher's Island, NY
Dear Mr. NeilsC'n:
The Board ofT,)wn Trustees took the following action during a Regular Meeting, held on May
21,2003 regarding the above matter
WHEREAS, Docko, Ine. on behal[ of IIa)' Harbor Clllb applied to the Southold Town
Trustees for a permit under the provisions ofthe Wetland Ordinance of the Town o[Southold,
application dated October 9, 2002
WHEREAS, s"id application was referred to the Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council
for their findings and recommendations, and
WHEREAS, a Public Hearing was held by the Town Tmstees with respect to said application on
May 21,2003 elt which time all interested persons were given an opportunity to be heard, and.
WHEREAS, the Board members have personally viewed and are familiar with the premises in
question and the surrounding area, and,
WHEREAS, the Board has considered all the testimony and documentation submitted
concerning this application, and,
WHEREAS. the str1lcture complies with thp. standard set f(\r:1I in Chapter 97-18 o[the Southold
Town Code.
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WHEREAS, the Board has detennined that the project as proposed will not affect the health,
safety and general welfare of the people of the town.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT,
RESOLVED, that the Board of Trustees approved the application of Docko,lllc. on behalf of
Hay Harbor Club for a Wetland Pennit at the diving area at the swimming dock filled in with
sand !Tom gales from the west and northwest to be dredged 3 feet +/- dredged sand will be
transported by barge over to the Mobil Dock in West Harbor and offloaded- trucked 'back to
replenish the beach near the south dock used for upland fill purposes - landward oftheMHW
line.
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that this detennination should not be considered a detennination
made for any other Department or Agency, which may also have an application pending for the
same or similar project.
Fee must be paid, if applicable and pennit issued within six months of the date of this
notification.
Inspections are required at a fee 01'$5,00 per inspection. (See attached schedule).
FEES: None
Very truly yours,
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Albert J. Krupski, Jr.
President, Board of Trustees
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December 18, 2002
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applicant is required to submit Part 1 of the Long Environmental
Assessment Form. Be it further resolved that upon receipt of the LEAF the
clerk of the Trustees is hereby directed to commence a coordinated
review pursuant to SEQRA.
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: Seconded. ALL AYES
TRUSTEE FOSTER: I'll make a motion to Table the application.
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: Seconded. ALL AYES
22. Docko, Inc. on behalf of HAY HARBOR CLUB requests a Wetland Permit
to maintenance dredge +/-3' in the diving area around the swimming dock.
Dredged material will be used for upland fill purposes. Located: Bell Hill
Ave., Fishers Island. SCTM#3-1-3
TRUSTEE FOSTER: There are no comments on this one. There is a
swimming dock out there and it is very, very shallow.
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: It says maintenance dredging. Has it been done
before?
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: Do they have a permit that says they dredged it?
TRUSTEE FOSTER: I don't know. You kind of have to look at where it is
and what it is. It's big place. They have a very, very, shallow, muddy kind
of a beach, water thing, but the dock goes off to the right and its way out.
It's kind of shallow.
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: It's kind of hard to swim in those clam flats.
TRUSTEE FOSTER: I don't know what's in there.
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: How big of an area?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Take a look. They really did a nice job, The area is
only here.
TRUSTEE FOSTER: It's just one little area that they want to dredge.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Has it ever been dredged and is there eelgrass in
the area? We're going to have to ask, we need a report on the shellfish
resources and eelgrass in the area. I'll make a motion to Table the
application,
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: Seconded, ALL AYES
TRUSTEE DICKERSON moved to go off the Public Hearing and go back
to the Regular Meeting, TRUSTEE KING seconded. ALL AYES
V. RESOLUTIONS:
1. J.M.O. Environmental Consulting Services on behalf of CHRISTOPHER
PIA requests an Emergency Wetlands Permit to reconstruct inkind/inplace
approx. 424' of timber bulkhead and to backfill structure with approx. 300
cy. of clean sand to be brought in from an upland site. Located: 5900-6000
Vanston Rd., Cutchogue. SCTM#118-1-2
Board of Trustees
. February 26, 2003
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: Is there any other comment?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: No comment on this.
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: Inkind/inplace and the same height.
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: I'll make a motion to close the hearing.
TRUSTEE KING: Seconded. ALL AYES
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: I'll make a motion to Approve the application.
TRUSTEE KING: Seconded. ALL AYES
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19. Docko, Inc. on behalf of HAY HARBOR CLUB requests a Wetland Permit
to maintenance dredge +/-3' in the diving area around the swimming dock.
Dredged material will be used for upland fill purposes. Located: Bell Hill
Ave., Fishers Island. SCTM#3-1-3
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I'll make a motion to Table the application.
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: Seconded. ALL AYES
20. Docko, Inc. on behalf of LUCIUS L. FOWLER requests a Wetland Permit
to relocate an existing 10'X 20' float with four new restraint piles and install
a new 3'X 20' hinged ramp. Install seven new tie-off piles, all waterward
of the apparent high-water line. Located: Equestrian Ave., Fishers Island.
SCTM#9-3-9
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Is there anyone here for or against the application.
They want to relocate it seaward.
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: I can't agree with this. This is a residential lot
right?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Yes, They want to go out that much more. They
have seven new pilings they want to put in. I have a problem with the tie-
off piles.
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: I don't like the tie-off piles either because they
monopolize the bottom, Once they're in, they're in, and it's a residential
lot. If they need a tie-off pile, they can just throw an anchor.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I don't have a problem with one tie off pile.
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: Right. One pile to accommodate the boat is fine.
It's usually on the inshore side of their float.
(talking, inaudible)
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I know what you're saying. Peggy is questioning the
need to go out further too.
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: They're going out past the neighbor's dock.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: All right, we're going to have to Table this and have
Artie send us his written comments. I'll make a motion to Table.
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: Seconded. ALL AYES
21. Docko, Inc. on behalf of RICHARD BINGHAM requests a Wetland Permit
to extend an existing 6' wide fixed pier by 30 (+/-) If. to reach suitable
berthing depth all waterward of the apparent high-water line. Located:
Central Ave., Fishers Island. SCTM#6-4-2
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CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL
At the meeting of the Southold Town ConserVation Advisory Council held Monday,
November 18,2002, the following recommendation was made:
HAY HARBOR CLUB to maintenance dredge +/-3' in the diving area around the
swimming dock. Dredged material will be used for upland fill purposes.
Located: Bell Hill Ave., Fishers Island, SCTM#3-1-3
The CAC did not make an inspection, therefore no recommendation was made.
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2, llDE DATA IS TAKEN F1<OM 2002 NOAA
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3, PI<OJECT DESCI<IPTlON:
M"JNTENPNCE DREDGING TO REMOVE 25 CY
OF ACCREllNG SAND OVER 300 SF F1<OM ll-iE
DMNG AREA AT THE S\\IIMMING F1ER
WATERWARD OF ll-iE APPAAENT HIGH WATER
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M"JNT"'N A SAFE DMNG AREA FOR
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A COMPILATION OF SURVEYS FOR PERMrr
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NORTH:
ALBERT MAYSLES
C/O MAYLES RLM CO,
250 WEST 54TH ST,
NEW YORK. NY 10019
SOLJTH:
ROSEMARY TAYLOR
706 COU-EGE TEf<RACE
\\llLUAMSBURG, VA 23185 PI<O~ECT:
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MAINTENANCE DREDGING
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DATE;
APPLICANT:
RSHERS ISlAND, TQINN OF SOUTHOLD
SUFFOLK COUNTY, NEW YORK
HAY HARBOR
JULY 16, 2002
HAY HAi<BOR CLUB
AGENT; SHEET 1 OF 4
DOCKO. INC_
K.eith B. Neilson, PE
Mys1ic, CT 06355
860 572 8939 FAX /3605727569
EMAit...; docko@snet.net I
DWG 97-02-7A.7,CJ
DJ Inc.
P'Q, Box 1, Mystic, CT 06355 (860) 572-8939 Fax: (860) 572-7569, e-mail: docko@snet.net
October II. 2002
Southold Board of Trustees
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, NY 11971
Attn: Charlotte
Re: Hay Harbor Club
Dear Charlotte:
We are transmitting herewith the balance of the application fee for Hay Harbor Club in
the amount of$150.00 as requested.
Very truly yours,
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Administrative Assistant
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P.O. Box 421, Mystic, CT 06355 (860) 572-8939 Fax: (860) 572-7569, e-mail: docko@snet.net
October 4, 2002
NYS DEC
Environmental Permits
Building 40, SUNY
Stony Brook, NY 11790-2356
Re: Hay Harbor Club
Maintenance Dredging
To Whom It May Concern:
On behalf of Hay Harbor Club, we request a Tidal Wetlands Permit, as necessary, for
maintenance dredging on Fishers Island, New York. We enclose the following in support of this
permit application:
.:. Four prints each of plans titled:
Applicant:
Date:
Maintenance Dredging
Hay Harbor
Fishers Island, Town of Southold
Suffolk County, New York
Hay Harbor Club
July 16,2002
Project:
Waterway:
Location:
.:. Four copies of the NYS DEC Joint Application, including the Short
Environmental Assessment Form, Tax Assessor's Map, Photographs and
Location Map.
I trust that you will find this application package complete and acceptable; please let me
know if the need for further information arises.
Very truly yours,
DOCKO, INC.
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Keith B. Neilson, P.E.
KBN:jm
Enclosures
CC: Hay Harbor Club: Duggan
US ACOE
Town of Southold: Krupski
File: 97-03-747 HAY HARBOR DREDGING
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JOINT APPLICATION
FOR PERMIT
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95-19-3 (8IOOJpfp
New York Stale
United States Army Corps of Engineers
AppIICaÞle 10 ag&nGies III1d P((lI1Ilcaløgonert .SleCIlI1ltam 1. P6M.. read IU insirUCliona on bac:k Ntadl addItional informatlon.1 needad Pl.... print legibly or type.
t. Check pennlta applied for:
NY! Dept. of Envlronman~ ConHrvation
o SUeam Das(u{bance (Bed and Banks)
ø Navigable Waters (ExcavabOO and FlU)
o Docks. Moonngs 01' Platforms
(Construct or Place)
o Dams and Impoundment Structures
(Construct. Reconslruct or Repair)
o Freshwater WaUand5
B Tidal WeUands
Coastal Ero&lOß Control
B Wild. Scenic and Recreatiorlal Rivers
401 Waler Quality CertifICatIOn
o Potable Waler Supply
o long laland Wells
o Aquallc Vegetation Control
B Aquatic Insect Control
Fish Control
NYS Offtce of Ganeral Servic..
(State Owned Lands Under WatBl)
Lea&e. License. Easement 01'
other Real Property Interest
Utility Easement (pIpelines, oonaults,
cables, etc.)
DocKs, Moorings or Platforms
(Con5truct or Place)
Adirondilck Pal1l; Agency
o Fre::.hwaler Wetlands Permit
o Wild, Scenic and R8C188Uonal Rivers
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Lak. George Park Commluion
o DocJo.& (Construct or Place)
o Moonngs (Estabh6h)
us Army Corps of Engln..,..
o Section 404 (Waters of the United States)
o SectJon 10 (Rivers and Harbors Act)
[i2I Nationwide PerrTIII (s)
Identify Number(s}
For AW¥'cy Use Only:
DEC APPLICATION NUMBER
US ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS
2. Name of Appllcanl (U.. full name)
HAY HARBOR CLUB
Mailing Add~ss
BELL HILL AVENUE
Poat Office
FISHERS ISLAND
3. Taxpayer ID (If applicant is not an individual)
Telephone Number (daytime)
(631) 788-7323
ZIp Code
06390
4. Applc:ant I, alan; (check. as many as ilPply)
o Owner ø OpefBtor 0 Lessee 0 MunldpaYty f Governmental Agençy
5. If applICant is not the owner, Identify owner here - otherwise. you may provide AgenllCon1act P8lSOn information.
Owner or Agent/Contact Person D Owner 0 Agent fCootact Pet1IQß Telephone Number (daytime)
DOCKO, INC.. KEITH B, NEILSON, P.E, (860) 572-8939
Mailing Addfll"
P. 0, BOX 421
POIIt OffIce
MYSTIC
State Zlo Code
CT 06355
SUFFOLD
SOUTHOLDI F,I.
6. ProJeçt I FacllKy Location (mark location on map. see inslruclion 1 a.)
Countv. TuwnfCltvNillaoe:
Tu MaD SectJonI Block 1Lat Number:
009 3 1
l.c)Qtion (includinQ Street or Road)
BELL HILL AVENUE
POll OffIce
FISHERS ISLAND
8. Name of USGS QUlld Map:
NEW LONDON, CT-RI-NY
TektohoßII Number ldavtime}
(631) 788-7323
7. Name of SIrum or W"'rbody (on or near project sile)
HAY HARBOR
Location Coordinates:
NYTM-E
NYTM-N 4
8. Project DucrlptIon and Purpoø: (Category of Activity e.g. new constructionlinstallatlon, maintenance or
replacement; Type of Structure or ActJvtty e.g. bulkhead. dredging, filling, dam. dock, taking of water. Typo of Matenals
and Quantlttes; Structure and Wolk Area Dimensions: Need or Purpose Served)
MAINTENANCE DREDGING TO MAINTAIN A SAFE DIVING AREA AT THE
CLUB'S OPENWATER SWIMMING AREA.
ropoH H:
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Pnv8te P...DII(; Commercial
11. Will Project Occupy
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v" No
12. Proposed Start
Dale.
13. Estimated CompkÞtlon
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NOV. 02
JAN, 03
14. H.. Work Begun on ProJec:I? (If yes, altad1 0 0
explélnallor1 of .....h)' .....001. was 6tarted without pemut) Yea No
16. List PfllvlOUl Pennlt I Appllcallon Numbers and Dates: (If Any)
1-4738-00103/00006, MARCH 27,1997
11. Wllllhls ProJecl Require Additional
Federal, Slaw, or Local Pennlta?
'ê. ~ ~Ie".: Lie' TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, US ACOE
17. If appllcanl Is nol the owner, both muslslgn the appltcaUOn
I hereby affirm thallnformaüon provided on this form and all attachments submitted herewith Is true to the beat of my knowledge and belief. False statements made herein
are puni6hable ü a CWòs A misœmeanor pursuanl to SectIon 210.45 of the Penal Law. Further. the applicant ac:oepI& full responsibility lor all damage, direct or indirect.
of wtlatevsr nature. and by whomever suffered, ari&ing oul of the pro,iect described herein and agrees to indemnify and save hannleu the Stale from suIIs. actions,
damages and r.usl6 (\1 ðVery name and description f8$ulUng from aaid project In addition. ral Law, 18 U.S.C.. Section 1001 provide$ for a fine of not more than
$10.000 or 1I;.¡.."s':,r,oìjfl.lt for nOl more than 5 years. or both 8f1 pplican willingly fatslfies, cooceaJs, or covers up a malerial fact; or knowingly mak_
Of" U56S a false. !Ld.,;¡I)U.'ì or fraudulent stalement.
Date .1--:...-? _f :r:!-k_ Signature of Applicant
Signature j~
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10 NUMBER
617,20
APPENDIX C
STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW
SHORT ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM
for UNLISTED ACTIONS Only
( To be completed by A pllcanl or Project Sponsor)
2, PROJECT NAME
MAINTENANCE DREDGING
PART 1 . PROJECT INFORMATION
1, APPLICANT I SPONSOR
HAY HARBOR CLUB
3,PRoJECT LOCATION;
FISHERS ISLAND, TOWN OF SOUTHOLD SUFFOLK
Municipality Coonty
4. PRECISE LOCATION: Street Addess and Road Intersections. Prominent landmarks ate - or provide map
THE HAY HARBOR CLUB IS LOCATED ON FOX ROAD JUST NORTH OF BELL HILL ON FISHERS ISLAND. THE
MAINTENANCE DREDGING IS REQUIRED AT THE SWIMMING AREA TO REMOVE SANDY BOTTOM SEDIMENTS
WHICH HAVE ACRE TED OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS
5. IS PROPOSED ACTION: 0 New D Expansion ø Modification I alteration
6, DESCRIBE PROJECT BRIEFLY:
THIS PROJECT IS TO DREDGE APPROXIMATELY 3 FEET OF SAND FROM THE DIVING AREA MEASURING
APPROXIMATELY 15' X 20'. THE SAND WILL BE REMOVED VIA CLAM SHELL BUCKET, DEPOSITED UPLAND AT
THE MOBIL DOCK IN WEST HARBOR OR USED FOR FILL ON UPLAND CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
7, AMOUNT OF LAND AFFECTED:
Initially 0.01 acres Ultimately 0.01 acres
8, WILL PROPOSED ACTION COMPLY WITH EXISTING ZONING OR OTHER RESTRICTIONS?
ø Yes D No If no, describe briefly:
9. WHAT IS PRESENT LAND USE IN VICINITY OF PROJECT? (Choose as many as apply.)
~ Residential 0 Industrial D Commercial DAgriculture D Park J Forest I Open Space 0 Other (describe)
THE LAND AROUND HAY HARBOR CLUB IS USED FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES WITH THE EXCEPTION OF
THE CLUB WHICH IS RECREATIONAL.
10, DOES ACTION INVOLVE A PERMIT APPROVAL, OR FUNDING, NOW OR ULTIMATELY FROM ANY OTHER GOVERNMENTAL
AGENCY (Federal, State or Local)
ø Yea D No If yes, list agency name and pennit I approval:
TOWN OF SOUTH OLD, WAIVER FOR TIDAL WETLANDS PERMIT
11, DOES ANY ASPECT OF THE ACTION HAVE A CURRENTLY VALID PERMIT OR APPROVAL?
0ves DNa If yes, list agency name and permit I approval:
US ACOE, TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, NYS DEC
ESULT OF PROPOSED ACTION WILL EXISTING PERMIT I APPROVAL REQUIRE MODIFICATION?
01' No
I CERTIFY THAT THE INFORMATION PROVIDED ABOVE IS TRUE TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE
S· nature_
OR CLUB, RICHARD DUGGAN, MGR.
Date: :;í!-¿j-=O¿,
Applicant
If thê action Is a Costal Area, and you are a stata agency,
completa the Coastal Assessmant Form bafore proceeding with this asaasament
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PART II· IMPACT ASSESSMENT ITo be completed by Lead Agency)
A, DOES ACTION EXCEED ANV TYPE I THRESHOLD IN 6 NVCRR, PART 617,41 If yes. coordinate the review process and use the FULL EAF.
OVes ONo
B, Will ACTION RECEIVE COORDINATED REVIEW AS PROVIDED FOR UNLISTED ACTIONS IN 6 NVCRR, PART 617,61 If No, a negative
declaration may be superseded by another inv~ved agency.
Dves 0 No
C, COULD ACTION RESULT IN ANV ADVERSE EFFECTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE FOLLOWING; (Answers may be handwnt1en, n legible)
C 1. existing air quality, lSurlaœ or groundwater quality or quantity I noise levsls, existing traffic pattern, solid waste production or disposal.
potential for erosion, drainage or ftooding problems? Explain briefly:
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C2, Aesthetic. agricultural. archaeological. historic, or other natural or cuhural resources; or community or neighborhood character? Exp~in briefly:
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C3, Vegetation or fauna, fish. shellfish or wildlife species. significant habitats, or threatened or endangered species? Explain briefly:
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C4, A community's existing plans or goals as officially adopted. or a change In use or Intensity of use of land or other natural resources? Explain briefly:
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C5. Growth, subsequent development. or related activities likely to be induced by the proposed action? Explain briefly:
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C6, Long term, short term. cumulative, or other effects not identified In C1-C5? Explain briefly:
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C7, Other im acts indudino chanoes In use of either Quantitv or tvoe of enerav? Exolain brief1v:
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D, WILL THE PROJECT HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL CHARACTERISTICS THAT CAUSED THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A CRITICAL
ENVIRONMENTAL AREA (CEA)1 (If yes, explain briefly: I
o Ves 0 No I
E, IS THERE, OR IS THERE LIKELY TO BE CONTROVERSV RELATED TO POTENTIAL ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS? nve. oxolaln;
OVes ONo
PART III· DETERMINATION OF SIGNIFICANCE (To be completed by Agency)
INSTRUCTIONS: For each adve"'e effoel identified above, determine whether it is substantial, large, Important or otherwise significant. Each
effect should be assessed In connection with its (a) setting (I.e. urban or rural); (b) probability of occurring; (c) durallon; (d) irreversibility; (e)
geographic scope; and (t) magnitude. If necessary, add attachments or reference supporting materials. Ensure that explanations contain
sufficient detail to show thai all relevant advocse impacts have been Identllled and adequately addressed, If question d or part ii wes checked
yes, the determination of s'9nmcance must evaluate the polenUallmpact of the proposed action on rhe environmental characteristiCs of the CEA.
Check this box if you have identified one or more potentially large or signtficant adverse impacts which MAY occur, Then proceed directly to the FUL
EAF and/or prepare a positive declaration.
Check this box if you have detennlned. based on the Infonnation and anaJysls above and any supporting doaJmentation. that the proposed a
WILL NOT result in any significant adverse envlroomentallmpacls AND provide. on attachments as necessary. the reasons supporting thi
delamination.
Name of Lead Agency
Date
Pont or 1 ype Name of Responsible Officer In Lead Agency
TIDe of Responsible Officer
Signature of Responsible Officer In Lead Agency
Signature of Preparer en different from responsible officer)
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P.O. Box 421, Mystic, CT 06355 (860) 572-8939 Fax: (860) 572-7569. e-mail: docko@snet.net
October 4, 2002
Mr. Michael Vissichelli
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
Jacob Javits Federal Center, Room 1937
New York, New York 10278-0090
Re: Hay Harbor Club
Maintenance Dredging
Dear Mr. Vissiche\li:
On behalf of Hay Harbor Club, we request a Department of the Army Nationwide
General Permit for maintenance dredging on Fishers Island, New York. We enclose herewith the
following in support of this permit application:
.:. Two prints each of plans titled:
Project:
Waterway:
Location:
Maintenance Dredging
Hay Harbor
Fishers Island, Town of South old
Suffolk County, New York
Hay Harbor Club
July 16,2002
Applicant:
Date:
.:. Two copies of Corps of Engineers and NYS DEC Application Forms,
Location Map, Tax Assessor's Map and photograph.
I trust that you will find this application package complete and acceptable; please let me
know if the need for further information arises.
Very truly yours,
DOCKO, INC.
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Keith B. Neilson, P.E.
KBN:jm
Enclosures
CC: Hay Harbor Club: Duggan
NYS DEC: Regulatory Affairs
Town of South old: Krupski
File: 97-03-747 HAY HARBOR DREDGING
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APPLlCATlaOR DEPAaENT OF THE ARMY PEAAII.
(33 CFR 325)
~ublic reporting burden fur Ihis oolle¡;tion of information is eslilllli1~d to average 5 hours ps:r response:, including the time for reviewing instructions. searching existing data
sources, gathC'ring and maintaining the data needed. and completing and reviewing the collection ofinfonnalion.. Send COßU11tDts regarding lhis burden cstimate of any
orner aspect ormis collection ofinformal:ion, including suggestions for reducing this burden,lo Department ofOctè:nse, Washington HcadquarttlS Service DircctoraIC of
of InformÞ1ion Operauons and Reports, 1215 Jefferson Davis Highway. Suite 1204, Arlington, V A 22202-4302; and (0 the Office of Managemcnt and Budget.
Paperwork Reduction Project (0710-0003), Washington, DC 20;03. Please DO NOT RETURN your Conn to either of those addresses. Complc:tcd applications must be
submined 10 me Dls(¡icl Engiru~er havingjuClsdic(ion over I.h~ location oflhe proposed activity.
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OMB APPROVAL NO, 0710-003
PRIVACY ACT STATEMENT
Authority: 33 use 401, S"lion 10; '413, Section 404. Principal Purpose: These laws require pc:nnits authorizing activities in, navigable waters of the Unircd States
the discharge of dredged or fill llUiterial into wa1c:rs of the United Stales. and the transportation of dredged material for the pwpose of dumping it into ocean waters.
Routine u~s: Information provided on this form will be u)cd in evaluating this application for a permit. Disclosure: Disclosure of requested information is
is voluntary. If informtltjon is nm provided, howe'r'er, the permit application cannot be processed nor can a permit be issued.
Om: set of original dca",ings or good reproducible copies ",hich show the location and character ofthc proposed activi[)' must be anached to this application
(see sample drawings and msrructions) and be submitted to !.he District Engineer having jurisdiction of the proposed activi[)'. An application mat is nOC completed
in full will be: returned
I. APPLICATION NO,
(ITEMS I THRU 4 TO BE FILLED BY THE CORPS)
2 FIELD OFFICE CODE 3, DATE RECEIVED
4,DATE APP, COMPLETED
5 APPLICANTS NAME
HA Y HARBOR CLUB
ITEMS BELOW ro BE fILLED BY APPLICANT
8, AUTHORIZED AGENTS NAME & TITLE
KEITH B. NEILSON, P.E" PRESIDENT
DOCKO, INC.
9, AGENT'S ADDRESS
p, 0, BOX 421
MYSTIC, CT 06355
10, AGENTS PHONE NO'S W/AREA CODE
6 APPLICANTS ADDR~SS
BELL HILL A VENUE
fiSHERS ISLAND, NY 06390
7, APPLICANTS PHONE NO'S W/AREA CODE
a. R~!.iJ~nce
a. Residence
b. Busin~!is
(631) 788-7373
b. Business
(860) 572-8939
II. STATEMENT OF AUTHORIZATION
I hereby authorize, DOCKO, INC. to act iß my behalf as my agent in the processing of this application and [0 furnish, upon request.,
supplemental intbnnalion in support of this permit tlppl
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U 1'S SIGNATU DATE
OICK DUGGAN, HAY HARBOR CLlIB
NAME. I.OCA TION AND DESCRIPTION OF PROJECT OR ACTIVITY
12. PROJECT NAME OR TITLE (See: lß)Uu¡,;Üons)
MAINTENANCE DREDGING
13, NAME OF WATERHOUY, IF KNOW (ifapplicabl<l
HA Y HARBOR
14, PROJECT STREET ADDRESS (if applicable)
BELL HILL AVENUE
FISHERS ISLAND, NY
15. LOCAIlON OF PROllC I
SUFFOLK
NY
COUNTY STATE
16, OTHER LOCATION DlSCIUPflONS, IF KNOWN, (S.. instrUction,) LAT. 41° 16' 05" N, LONG, 72° 01' 17" W
EAST SHORE Of HAY HARBOR AT THE INLET fROM fiSHERS ISLAND SOUND.
17, DIRECTIONS TO THE SITE ARRIVE AT FISHERS ISLAND BY FERRY OR PLANE AND HEAD EAST ON WHISTI.ER
AVENUE, BEAR LEFT ONTO EQUESTRIAN TRAIL, LEFT ON BELL HILL AVENUE (NORTH) THEN INTO THE CLUB
ENTRANCE (fOX ROAD),
ENG FORM 4345, Fob, EDITION OF SEP 91 IS OBSOLETE, (ProPflnentCECW-QR
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18. Natwc of Activii)' ([ks.cription of ploj~Cl, incJudè aU features)
MAINTENANCE DREDGING TO REMOVE 25 CY OVER 300 SF OF ACRETING SAND FROM THE
DIVING AREA AT TIlE SWIMMING PIER. WATER W ARD OF THE APPARENT HIGH WATER LINE,
19. Project Purpose (lks¡;:ribe Lhc reason or pu.rposc: of ihe project, see instructions)
THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROJECT IS TO MAINTAIN A SAFE DIVING AREA FOR RECREATIONAL SWIMMING.
USE BLOC~ 211-22 If DREDGED AND/OR fiLL MA TERI.~I. IS TO BE DISCHARGED
20. R~on (5) fur Dis¡;:hatgt:
NOT APPLICABLE, UPLAND DISPOSAL
21. Ty~ (05) ofMlileriaJ ßClIIg Disehw-gcd and (he Amount of E8I.:h Type in Cubic Yard.5
NOT APPLICABLE
22. SUlfu,,;e Ar~ in A~fCS of Wctlund!o or O(ller Waters Filled (see instructions)
NOT APPLICABLE
23. Is Any Portion ùfthe Work Already Complclc?
Yes
NoX
If YES, DESCRIBE THE COMP!.ETED WORK
24. Addn:sses of Adjoining Property Owners, Lessees, Etc., Whose Property Adjoins the Waterbody (ifmorc than can be cn1ercd here,
pk:asc: atw.ch a suppkmcntlÙ lisl)
NORTH; ALBERT MA YSLES, C/O MA YLES FILM CO., 250 WEST 54TH ST. PH, NEW YORK, NY 10019
SOUTH; ROSEMARY TAYLOR, 706 COLLEGE TERRACE, WILLIAMSBURG, VA 23185
25. Lj:lo of Other c..~r1iti¡,;.aLions or Approvals/Denials Received from other Federal. Stacc Of Local Agencies for Work Described in This Applicalion
AGENCY TYPE APPROVAL'
NYS DEC
TOWN OF SOUTHOl.D
IDENT, NUMBER DATE APPUED
PENDING
PENDING
DATE APPROVED
DATE DENIED
'Would include but IS no! re::.lrich:d to /.Qning, building and ßood plain permits.
26. Apphcauoo IS l~lI;by made lur Ii penmt or pcmub 10 aulhonze [he work. described Iß this apphcaliOß. I certifY lhaL the mfunnauon in thIS applu:ation is
complete and IICCUI'~ "I "her 1 po.ssess the authonty 10 undertake th:work descnbed he~iJI'ÓJas thJ;~rized agent of the apPlij/¡
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SIGNA E Of AP ANT DATE SIGNATURE OF AGENT DATE
DICK DUGGAN fOR IfA Y HARBOR CI.UB KEITH B, NEILSON. p,e" DOCKO. IND,
The: applicalion mus( b!:: slgneJ by m.e pclIDn who desires to undertalc the proposed activ¡(y (applicant) or it may be signed by a duly audtorized agent iflhe
sUth:mcnt in block II has bc:cn filled Oul and signed
18 U.S.c. Section 1001 provides Ihat· Whoever, in ø.oy manner within m.cjurisdiclion arany department or agency or the United States knowingly
and willfully falsifies, com:!:..ls, or cove"j up any U'j,,;;~ scheme, or discuisc$ a material filet or makes any false, fictitious or ftaudulenl statements or representations
or makes or uses any fwse wriling or docwnem knowing same 10 cOnllUn any tillsc, fictitious or fraudulent stalements or entry, shall be fined not morc: than SIO,OOO
or imprisoned nOl more: than live yeaß or both
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Docko. Inc.
P.O, Box 421, Mystic, CT 06355 (860) 572-8939 Fax: (860) 572-7569, e-mail: docko@snet.net
October 4, 2002
Mr. Albert Krupski, President
Southold Board of Trustees
P.O. Box 1179
Southold. NY 11971
Re: Hay Harbor Club
Maintenance Dredging
Dear Mr. Krupski:
On behalf of Hay Harbor Club, we enclose herewith the following in support of their
permit application for Maintenance Dredging on Fishers Island.
.:. Two prints each of plans titled:
Project:
Waterway:
Location:
"Maintenance Dredging"
Hay Harbor
Fishers Island, Town of South old
Suffolk County, New York
Hay Harbor Club
July 16,2002
Applicant:
Date:
.:. Two copies ofthe Southold Board of Trustees permit application, U.S. ACOE
and DEC applications, Tax Assessor's Map, site photographs and location
map.
.:. Check in the amount of$50.00 payable to the Town of South old.
I trust that you will find this application package complete and acceptable; please let me
know if the need for further information arises.
Very truly yours,
DOCKO, INe.
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(dws~
Keith B. Neilson, P.E.
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Enclosures
CC: Hay Harbor Club: Duggan
Army Corps of Engineers
NYS DEC: Regulatory Affairs
File: 97-03-747 HAY HARBOR DREDGING
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Albert J. Krupski, President
James King, Vice-President
Henry Smith
Artie Foster
Ken Poliwoda
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Office Use Only
Coastal Erosion Permit Application
x Wetland Permit Application
Grandfather Permit Application
---Waiver/Amendment/Chan es
Received Application: 0
Recei ved Fee: $ 50.00
Completed Application
Incomplete
SEQRA Classification:
Type I Type II Unlisted
Coordination: (date sent) ----
CAC Referral Sent: Ó (0
Date.of Inspection: ~I (~~~~
Rece~pt of CAC Report:
Lead Agency Determination:
Technical Review: ,
Public Hearing Held:-1lJ~/~Y/
Resolution: I
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Name of Applicant
Hay Harbor Club
Address
Bell Hill Avenue
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Town Hall
53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
Telephone (516) 765-18,'12
Fax (516) 765-1823
OCT - 9 2m2
Phone Number: ( 631) 788-7323
Suffolk County Tax Map Number: 1000 - 009-3-1,3
Property Location: The Hay Harbor Club is located on Bell Hill Avenue /.
just west of the intersection with Fox Avenue. ~
{provide LILCO PoIe #. dI'taoee to era" ,treet,. and IocatIon)'-\~
AGENT: Docko, Inc., Keith B. Neilson, P.E.
( I f applicable)
Address: P. o. Box 421,14 Holmes Street, Mystic, cr 06355
Phone: (860)' 572-8939
FAX!!: (860) 572-7569
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Boar~ Trustees Application 4IÞ
GENERAL DATA
N/A
Land Area (in square feet):
Area Zoning: Generally residential surrounding Hay Harbor
Previous use of property: Hav Harbor Club
Intended use of property: The property use will remain as is.
Prior permits/approvals for site improvements:
Agency
Date
Tidal Wetlands Permit
1992 (IXx::k Re=nstruction-Hurrican Bob)
Tidal Wetlands Pennit
1 997 Maintenanc" rJrpò\1i ~
No prior permits/approvals for site improvements.
Has any permit/approval ever been revoked or suspended by a
governmental agency?
x
No
Yes
If yes, provide explanation:
Project Description (use attachments if necessary):
The diving area at the swimming dock has gradually filled in with sand, especially
from gales from the west and northwest, and needs to be dredqed 3 feet. more or
less. The dredqed sand will be transoorted bv rnra<e ov"r to t.h" fubil Ibck in
West Harbor and off-loaded. thf>Jl truck"" rn,.,k to rf>plF'ni<:h thF' "",,,,c-h n....",r th....
south dock, or be used for upland fill purposes on local. in anv case. landward
of the mean hiqh water line.
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Boar~ Trustees Application tþ
WETLAND/TRUSTEE LANDS APPLICATION DATA
Purpose of the proposed operations: The purpose of this maintenance
dredging is to maintain a safe diving area at the Hay Harbor Club's open
water swirrnning area.
Area of wetlands on lot: 40.000
square feet
Percent coverage of lot: .01
%
Closest distance between nearest existing structure and upland
edge of wetlands: n feet
Closest distance between nearest proposed structure and upland
edge of wetlands: 0 feet
Does the project involve excavation or filling?
No
Yes
x
If yes, how much material will be excavated?
25
cubic yards
How much material will be filled?
N/A
cubic yards
Depth of which material will be removed or deposited:
feet
3
Proposed slope throughout the area of operations:
o
Manner in which material will be removed or deposited:
Clam shell bucket dredge
Statement of the effect, if any, on the wetlands and tidal
waters of the town that may result by reason of such proposed
operations (use attachments if appropriate):
There will be no effect on the wetlands and tidal waters of the Town as
a result of this proiect.
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Board~ Trustees Application tþ
COASTAL EROSION APPLICATION DATA
N/A
Purposes of proposed activity:
Are wetlands present within 75 feet of the proposed activity?
No
Yes
Does the project involve excavation or filling?
No
Yes
If Yes, how much material will be excavated?
(cubic yards)
How much material will be filled?
(cubic yards)
Manner in which material will be removed or deposited:
Describe the nature and extent of the environmental impacts
reasonably anticipated resulting from implementation of the
project as proposed. (Use attachments if necessary)
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NOT1CE TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER
BOARD OF TRUSTEES, TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
In the matter of applicant:
Hay Harbor Club
SCTMItlOOO- ooc¡ 1 1
YOU ARE HEREBY GIVEN NOTICE:
1. That it is the intention of the undersigned to request a
Permit from the Board of Trustees to:
Dredge approximately 3 feet of sand from the diving area measuring approximately
1S' 20'. The sand will be reI!K)ved via clam shell bucket, deposited upland at the
Mobil Dock in West Harbor or used for fill on upland construction projects.
2. That the property which is the subject of Environmental
Review is located adjacent to your property and is described as
follows:
The site is located on Fox Road just north of Bell Hill on Fishers Island.
3. That the project which is subject to Environmental Review
under Chapters 32, 37, or 97 of the Town Code is open to public
comment. You may contact the Trustees Office at 765-1892 or in
wri ting .
The above referenced proposal is under review of the Board of
Trustees of the Town of Southold and does not reference any
other agency that might have to review same proposal.
OWNERS NAME: Hav Harmr Club
MAILING ADDRESS: ~ 11 };Ii'l ~Uen11~
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PHONE 11:
(li11) 7RR 71:21
Ene.: Copy of sketch or plan showing proposal for your
convenience.
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Albert J. Krupski, President
James King, Vice-President
Henry Smith
Artie Foster
Ken Poliwoda
Town Hall
53095 Route 25
P,O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971-0959
Telephone (631) 765-1892
Fax (631) 765.1366
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
BOARD OF TRUSTEES: TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
NOV , 5
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In the Matter of the Application
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COUNT OF SUFFOLK)
STAT OF NEW YORK)
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AFFIDAVIT OF POSTING
, residing at Doc ko, { N C'
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duly Sworn,
That on the Lfth day of N oJ, 2002-, ersonally posted the
property known as 'a or C
by placing the Board of Trustees official poster where it can
easily be seen, and that I have checked to be sure the poster
has remained in place for eight days prior to the date of~e
public hearing. Date of hearing noted thereon to be held ~,~
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Dated: No l! 5 ;200~
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(signature)
before me this
of N D V. 200&-
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tary Public
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Albert J. Krupski, President
James King, Vice-President
Henry Smith
Artie Foster
Ken Poliwoda
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Town Hall
, 53095 Route 25
P.O. Box 11 79
Southold, New York Il971-0959
Telephone (631) 765.1892
Fax (631) 765-1366
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOVTHOLD
BOARD OF TRUSTEES: TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
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In the Matter of the APPlication
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STATE OF N~;iiiK)
AFFIDAVIT OF POSTING
I, lJJtLlta~ GO~, reSiding at
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being d ly sworn, depose and say:
Tha t on the '-/t~ day NO V ,
property known as O~PH f\
by Placing the Board of Trustees offi al poster where it can
easily be seen, and that I have checked to be SUre the poster
h.. re..ined in pl,oe for eighc d.y, prior Co Che d'Ce o"<he ìo '"-
~ublic heari~~Dat~ of hearing noted thereon to be held ~_
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Dated: No\¡' 5 2-002
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Sworn to before me this
~5:t!¡ d.y Of NO~002-
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posted the
M¿&~~ {j~
(signature)
Board. Trustees AppilcatLon .
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AUTHORIZATION
(where the applicant is not the owner)
I , Hay Harbor Club
(print owner of property)
residing at Bell Hill Avenue
(mailing address)
do hereby authorize I1nrko. Tne:
(Agent)
P. 0_ Box 421. MYstic. CT 06355
to apply for permit(s) from the
Southold Board of Town Trustees on my behalf.
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