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Diane
Board of Town Trustees, Town of Southold
Town Hall
POBox 1179
Southold, NY 11971
RE: Thatcher Pier Repair (in-kind in-place) Application
Fishers Island, NY
SCTM ill 1000-3-3-7
Dear Diane:
Per your request, please find enclosed the following materials necessary to support an
application for a Grandfather Permit at the above referenced property:
1) Copy of a 1957 survey showing the boat house and dock
2) Copy of the War Department permit for the boat house and dock
If you have any questions, I am available to talk with you or if necessary meet a
member of your staff at the site. You may contact me at 516-288-2271.
Very truly yours,
First Coastal Corporation
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William Mack
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cc R. Thatcher
First Coastal Corporation, Postal Box 1212
Westhampton Beach, NY 11978 (516) 288-2271/FAX (516) 288-8949
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Town Hall. 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
Southold. New York 11971
SOUTHOLD TOWN
CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL
The following action was taken a meeting of the Southold Town Conservation
Advisory Council held Monday, October 27, 1997:
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RICHARD and M. LLEWELLYN THATCHER 3-3-7 to restore and repair
(in-kind/in-place) the existing pier and boat house.
Fishers Island
The CAC did not make an inspection, therefore, it has no recommendation.
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JOWN OF SOJ1THOLD
September 18, 1997
NYSVMtelþ'ollts
G~orgc E. Pataki
GO't:ernor
.\Iexander E TreadweJl
Secretary of State
William Mack
First Coastal Corporation
Postal Box 1212
Westhampton Beach, NY 11978
Re: F-97-649
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers/New York District Permit
Application - Richard & M. Llewellyn Thatcher. Fishers
Island Sound, Town of Southold, Suffolk County
Acknowledl!ement of Federal Consistencv Assessment
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Dear Mr. Mack:
The Department of Slate received your Federal Consistency Assessment Form and supporting information
on September 2, 1997 and has determined that the submitted documentation is adequate to commence our
review of your proposed project. We wiIl contact you if additional information may be necessary for
consislency review purposes.
You and the Corps of Engineers will be notified of our decision when we have completed our review of this
project for its consistency with the New York State Coastal Management Program. The Corps of Engineers
cannot issue a permit for this project unless the Department of State concurs with your consislency
cenification.
Please call Gary J, Haighl al (518) 474-6000 if you have any questions.
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cc: COE/New York District - James W. Haggerty
NYS DEC/Region I - John Pavacic
Town of Southold - Albert J. Krupski, Jr.
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WiIliam F. Barton
Chief, Consistency Review and Analysis
NYS DEPARTMENT OF STATE
Di'f,JisiOll of COIZSC4{ ResOIlFUS .",d WtZtnfrolU R~uJmniDff
.41bany, NY 12231-0001
Voice: (5/8) 474-6000 FIIX...·(5IB) 47J-24M
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George E. P.\uki
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Alexander F. Tread\\"ell
Secretan' of State
Albert J. Krupski, Jr.
Truslee, Town of Southold
53095 Main Slreet
P.O. Box 1179
SOUlhold, NY 11971
Re: F-97-649
U.S, Army Corps of Engineers/New York Districl Permil
Application
Richard & M. Llewellyn Thalcher, Fishers Island Sound
Dear Mr. Krupski:
Enclosed is a copy of the information submitted to the Department of State for review of the above-referenced
projecl with respect to ils consistency with the Coastal Management Program for your information and
preliminary review. Please contact Gary J. Haighl, the DOS reviewer assigned to this projecl. at (518)
474-6000 to discuss your concerns, and any additional informalion which may be necessary to assisl you in
reviewing this project. Any comments you may have will assist the Department in reaching a decision as to
the consislency of the proposed action with the approved NYS Coaslal Management Program.
Please nole, however. Ihat if we do nol hear from you within 45 days of the dale of this letter, we will
presume thaI you have no objections 10 the proposed project.
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William F. Barton ~
Chief, Consistency Review and Analysis
Enclosures
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DiI,'ÙioTl of (O.15t.d R601f1''Ct'5 ,md W;.lterlrOlll Re'..:italiz,ItioTl
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CO.AL PROGfiAMS
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NEW YORK ATE DEPARTMENT OF STATE
COAST~ANAGEMENT PROGRAM
Federal Consistency Assessment Form
An applicant, seeking a permit, license, waiver, certification or similar type of approvöl from a federal agency
which is subject to the New York Stale Coaslal Management Program (CMPI. shall complete this assessmenl
form for any proposed activity Ihal will Occur wilhin andlor directly affect Ihe Slate's Coastal Area. This form
is intended to assist an applicant in certifying that the proposed activity is consistent with New York State's
CMP as required by U,S. Deparlment of Commerce regulations (15 CFR (30.57). It should be campleled .1 the
time when the federel application is prepered, The Departmenl of SI.te will use the campleled form end
accompanying information in its review of the applicant's certification of consistency.
A. APPLICANT
1, Name: Richard & M. lIewellyn Thacther
(please print)
2. Address: 249 Saulhdown Road Hunlington
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11743
3. Telephone: Area Code (
) 516-692-4712
B. PROPOSFD ACTIVITY
1. Brief descriplion of aClivity:
In-Kind In-Place Pier
2. Purpose of aClivily: Access to Navigable Water
See attached projecl narr'live
3. location of activity:
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Suffolk
Counly
Fishers Island
Cily , Town or Village
Private Rd off East End Rd
Stre~t or Site Description
4, Type of federal permit/license required: USCorp of Engineers & NYSDOS
5, Federal application number, if known:
Unknown
6. If a state permit/license was issued or is required for the proposed activity, identify the state agency and
provide the application or permi: number, if known: NYS DEC Tidal Wetlands
C. COASTAl ASSESSMENT Check eithAr "Vp'o;;." n.r liNn" fnr ...""....h,...1- +1-._ ,1:_11_...:__
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3, Willlhe proposed aClivily require any of the following:
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a, Walerfront Sile? (2,21, 221.................,...........................,.............,....,.... ,......,................... x
b. Provisionot new public services or infrastructure in undeveloped or sparsely populated
sections of the coastal area? (5)...........................................................................,................~-X
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c, Slale designated significant fish and/or wildlife habilal? (71............,....,.........,........,...,...........,. x
d, Slale designated significanl scenic resource or areal (241........,...,............,............,..................:----x-
e. Slale designaled imporlant agricultural land? (261......,..............,..,.,............,.,...........................= x
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4. Will the proposed activily occur wilhin and/or aHecl an area covered by a Slale approved local walerfront
revitalization program? (see polices in local program document..'...................... .............,............. _ ~
D. ADDITIONAL STEPS
1. If all of the questions in Section C are answered "No", then the applicant or agency shall complele Seclion E
and submit the documentation required by Section F.
2. If any of the questions in SectionC are answered "Yes", Ihen the applicant or agent is advised to consulllhe
CMP, or where appropriate, the local water front revitalization program document * . The proposed activity must
be analyzed in more detail with respect to the applicable state or local coastal polices. In the space provided
below or on a separate pagels)' the epplicant or agent shall: (al identify, by their policy number, which coastal
policies are aHected by the ectivity, (b briefly assess Ihe aHecls of the activily upon the policy; and,
Ic) state how the activity is consistent with each policy. Following the completion of this written assessment,
the applicant or agency shall complete Section E and submit the documentation required by Section F.
E CERTIFICATION
The applicant or agent musl certify Ihal the proposed activilY is consistent with the Slate's CMP or the approved
local walerfront revitalizalion program, as appropriele, If this certification cannot be made, the proposed
activily shall not be undertaken, If Ihis certification can be made, complele this Seclion.
"The proposed ectivily complies wilh New York Slale's epproved Coastal Management Program, or with the applicable
approved local waterfront revitalization program, and will be conducted in a manner consistent with such program."
ApplicantlAgent's Neme:
First Coastal Corporation
Address:
P.O,Box 1212, Weslhamplon Beach, NY 11978
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RECEIVED
Daina Boos
Consistency Project Coordinator
NYS DOS Coastal Management
162 Washington Avenue
Albany, NY 12231-0001
RE: Thatcher Pier Repair (in-kind in-place) Application
Fishers Island, NY
SCThrf ill 1000-3-3-7
Dear Ms Boos:
Please find enclosed the following materials necessary to submit an application for the
project at the above referenced property:
1) Completed Joint Application for permit
2) Federal Consistency Assessment Form
3) Site Plan and Cross Section
4) Survey
5) Complete DEC Joint Application Form
6) Project Narrative and photos
7) Agent Permittee Authorization Form
If you have any questions, I am available to talk with you or if necessary meet a
member of your staff at the site. You may contact me at 516-288-2271.
Very truly yours,
First Coastal Corporation
tJu:;yv. ;1/\&..4
William Mack
WBM/ss
cc R. Thatcher
First Coastal Corporation, Postal Box 1212
Westhampton Beach, NY 11978 (516) 288-2271/FAX (516) 288-8949
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NEW YORK STATE Om 1st COpy Po;!rmrt Admrnistrator
DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION 2nd COpy.. Corps of Engineers
UNITED STATES ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS IU:> M.., wnro .rr,,, "UN NU 3n:J'COPY Program
4th COpy NYS Agency
JOINT APPLICATION FOR PERMIT 5th COPY Applicant
Please read ALL Instructions on back before completing ttvs aøøllcatton. P!aase type or print clea';y In Ink. Altach addItional Information as needed.
ORESHW A TER WETLANDS IðÌTIDAL WETLANDS OvATER D-ONG ISLAND WELL
cgTECTlON OF WATERS FOR,
A. Construction or placement of docks and moorings B. Constructron. reconstruction, or repair of a DAM Qr other rmpoundment Stn.Jcturo
C. O'''u'b,"" 0" STREAM BEO 0' BANKS 0' ",c.v",'O" '" 0' 'm of NAVIGABLE &f WATER aUALITY CERTIFICATION
80ASTAL EROSION CONTROL cr:JKE GEORGE PARK COMMISSION (Dock and Moorlngsl ILD. SCENIC OR RECREATIONAL
QUA TIC PEST CONTROL FOR: A. AQuatic Vegetation Control DB. Fisn Control c. Insect Control
1. LIST PREVIOUS PERMIT/APPLICATION NUMBERS AND OATES {If anyl IF OTHER THAN INDIVIDUAL. PROVIDE
TAXPAYER 10 NUMBEA
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J. NAME OF APPLICANT ¡Use Full Namal
Richard & M. Llewellyn Thacther
MAILING ADDRESS I TELEPHONE !Where can be roached dUring day,
249 Southdown Road 516-692-4712
POST OFFICE STATE ZIP CODE
Huntington NY 11743
4, NAME OF . ~Owner ~gentlCont8ct Person (Check Onel
First Coastal Corp.
MAILING ADDRESS I TELEPHONE (Where can be reached dunng day!
P,O, Box 1212, 5 Arthur Street (516) 288-2271
POST OFFICE 57;'Te I ZIP CODE
Westhampton Beach NY 11978
5, PROJECT¡FAC!LlTY LOCA nON (Mark location on map. see NumDer 1 a on reverse sldel
County Suffolk ¡ Town or City Fishers Island v;n,g.Fishers Island
STREET ADDAESS/LOCA Tl0N !If different from applicantl
Private Rd off East End Rd
POST OFFICE STATE ZIP CODE I DEC USE ONLY
Fishers Is land NY NYTM-E NYTM·N 4
6. NAME OF STREAM OR BODY OF WATER Fishers Island Sound
7, HAS WORK BEGUN ON PAOJECT? If YES. attach explanation on starting work wrthout permit. include dates. I 3. ::>AOPOSED ST ':"RTING OA TE
Show wont on map and/or arawjn.,¡. DYe, ~NO I ,~.S..~.P
9. APPROXIMATE COMPLETION DA.TE 110. PROPOSED USE: 111. WILL PROJECT OCCUPY STATE LAND?
2 months [gprivate OPubliC Dcommercia nYes IXlNo
12. PROPOSED PUAPOSE:
Access to Navigable Water
13. PROJECT DESCRIPTION: ¡e.g. Quantity and type of matenal to be excavated, dredged or used for fill or rllJ rap. location Of dIsposal sItes; [ype of structure to be
,nstalled; height of dam: size of impoundment; capacities of proposed water sources; extent of distn:' 'Ion system: size of manna and typo of dOCkS and moormgs to be
installed: ect.1
In-Kind In-Place Pier Reconstruction
See attached Project Narrative
14. WILL THIS PROJECT REQUIRE ADDITIONAL FEDERAL. STATE ANDIOR LOCAL PERMITS? ~Ye' eNo If yes. please list:
Town of South old USCorp of Engineers & NYSDOS
15. Separate Authorizanon or latter of NO JURISDICTION ShoukS be Received from DEC and the US Army Corps Prior to mitiat10n of Wor1r. in Wetfands and Waterways.
I hereby affirm that Information provided on this from and all attachments submitted h&rewlth is true to the best of my knowledge and behe/. False sraraments made
herein are punishable as a Class A m6Sd8meanor pursuant to Sect10n 210.45 ot the Penal Law. Further. the applicant accepts full responSibility for aU damaga. direct or
Indirect. 0/ wnEllever nature. and by whomever suffered. arISing out of the project described herein and agrees 10 indemnify and save harmless the Slat8 tram SUitS.
actions. damages and costs of every mane and descrrption resultIng from sad project. In eddition. Federal Law. 18 U.S.C. Section 1001 provides for a fine of not more
than S 1 0.000 or imprtsonmant for not more than live years. or both. where an applicant knowingly and willfully falsIfies. conceals. or covers: up a matenal fact: or
k.nowlngly makes or uses a lalse. fiCtrnous or fraudulent statement.
o hereby .lllthonze tho agent nal1l8d In Number 4. above to SUbmit this appficatlon on my behalf.
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APPLICATION FOR DEP MENT OF THE ARMY PERMIT 1 OMS APPROVAL NO. 0702-003
(33 efr 325) Expires 30 June 1989
The Department of the Army permit program is authorized by Section 10 of the River and Harbor Act of 1899, Section 404 of the Clean Water
Act and Section 103 of the Marine, Protection, Research and Sanctuaries Act. These laws require permits authorizing acti'ttiries in or affecting
navigable waters of the United Srates. the d~scharge of dredged or fill material into waters of the United States, and the transportation of dredged
material for the purpose of dumping it into ocean waters. [nformation provided on this form will be used in evaluating the application for a
permit. Information in this application is made a matter of public record through issuance of a public notice. Disclosure of the information
requested is voluntary; however. the data requested are necessary in order to communi care with the applicant and [0 evaluate the pennit
application. If necessary information is not provided, the pennit application cannot be processed nor can a permit be issued.
One set of original drawings or good reproducible copies which show the location and character of the proposed activity must be attached to this
application (see sample drawings and instructions) and be submined to the District Engineer having jurisdiction over the location of the
proposed activity. An application that is not completed in full will be returned.
1, APPUCA TlON NUMBER (To be assigned by the Corps) 3. NAME, ADORESS, AND TITLE OF
First Coastal Corporation
PO Box 1212
Westhamplon Beach, NY 11978
2. NAME ANO ADDRESS OF APPLICANT Telephone no. durmg business hours.
Richard & M. Llewellyn Thacther A/C 1 I (Residence)
249 Southdown Road A/C 15161 288-2271 (Office)
Huntington NY 11743 Statement ot Aughonzation: Il1ereoy designate and authonze
to act In mV behalf as my agent i
the processing ot this permit application ana to furnish, upon request. supplemental
Telephone no. during business hours. information in suppOrt ot the application.
A/C 1 )516-692-4712 (Residence) SIGNATURE OF APPLICANT DATE
AIC I I (Office) See attached Authorization Form
4, DETAILED DESCRIPTION OF PROPOSED In-Kind In-Place Pier Reconstruction
40. ACTIVITY
See attached project narrative
4b. PURPOSE
See attached project narrative
4c. DISCHARGE OF DREDGED OR FILL
See attached project narrative
ENG FORM 4345, Apr 86
EDITION OF APR 83 15 OBSOLETE
(Proponent DAEN-CWO-N)
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5. NAMES AND ADDRESSES OF ADJOINING PR
TY OWNERS, LESSEES, ETC.. WHOSE PROP
ALSO ADJOINS THE
W. Soper II: 2244 La Casita Dr, Wellington, FL 33414
A. Kuijpers: 253 Henry St, Brooklyn, NY 11201
M. Dunwoody: 165 Parsonage Rd, Greenwich CT 06830
Fishers Island Dev Corp: c/o FI Utility. FI, NY 0639
6. WATERBODY AND LOCATION ON WATERBODY WHERE ACTiViTY EXISTS OR is
Fishers Island Sound
7. LOCATION ON LAND WHERE ACTIVITY EXiSTS OR IS PROPOSED
ADDRESS:
Private Rd off East End Rd
STREET. ROAD, ROUTE OR OTHER DE"CRIPTIVE LOCATION
Suffolk
COUNTY
NY
STATE
ZIP CODE
T O"'TI of Southold
LOCAL GOVERNING BODY WITH JURISDICTION OVER SITE
8. Is any portion of the activity for which authorization is sought now YES X NO
If answer is "Yes" give reasons, month and year the activIty was completed. Indicate the existing work on the drawings
9. list aJ/ approvals or certifications and denials received from other federal, interstate, state or local agencies for any structures, construction.
discharges or other activities described in this application.
ISSUING AGENCY TYPE APPROVAL IDENTIFICATION NO.
DATE OF APPLICATION
DATE OF APPROVAL
DATE OF
10. Application is hereby made for a permit or permits to authorize the activities described herein. certify that I am famIliar with the InformatIOn
contained In
thIs application, and that to the best of my knowledge and belief such information is true, complete, and accurate. I further certify that I
possess the
authority to undertake the proposed activities or I am acting as the duly authorized agent of the applicant.
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rhe "pplicanon must be signed by (he person who desires 10 Ilndertake the proposed actIVIty (applicann or it maJ' he slgnrd b.t, a duh' alllhorr=ed agent ~f (he
s(atemem in Block J has been ¡Wed out and sIgned.
I ~ U.S.C. Section 100 I provides that: Whoever. in any manner within the jurisdiction of any depõlrtrnen( or agency ofThc Uniœd Slates knowingly and willtiJlly
falsities. .;onceals, or covers up by any trick. scheme, or device a maœrialtact or makes any faJ';c. tictitious or ti-:!uduknt :;taœments or representations or makes or
uses any talse writing or documem knowing :;ame to .;ontain any talse tictitious or frnudulem staœm~nt or entry, shall be tined not more than $10,000 or imprisoned
nm more than rive ye~rs. or bOlh.
Do nOI send a permit pmccssing ICt: with {his :1pplication. The appropriate tee: will be :1SSCSsed whcn :I pc:rmi[ is issued.
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~EMENT TO ENG FORM-4345 an~cuted
Corn~lete and submi t , along W~ materials requested below ENG
Form-4345, "Application for DA Permi t·' . IE necessary, continue item on an
additional sheet. Identify entry by item number.
GENERAL
1. Period of time required to complete the proposed work. Both actual work time and
duration of the project are required (i .e., three weeks of work time over a two-
month period) . FOUR WEEKS OVER TWO MONTHS
2. Information characteristic of neighborhood (i.e. , high, rnedi urn, or low density;
residential, commercial, or industrial) .
LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL
3. Types of adjacent marine structures and approximate distance from the proj ect. sit.e.
Piers. bulkheads and revetemnts:
TO BOTH THE EAST AND WEST APPROXIMATELY 500 FEET
4. Distance to noise sensit.ive areas (i. e. I schools. hospitals, etc) .
OVER TWO (2) MILES
5. '!':mes of construction equipment to be used during construction and number or each
t:.rpe (i, e., bulldozers, trucks, cranes. etc) .
TRUCK, PRESSURE PUMP, CRANE
Ó. Submit representative photographs, color i:: possible, of the project area.
Identify pictures (i .e. view from north, east, etc. , time and date taken) Out-
l':ne the location of the proposed work on the photograph.
7. Indicate on your project plans and on photographs or the site(s) the l.:>cat':'on of a:1Y
~.¡etlands ~Teget.ation (such as cordgrass, reedgrass and cattails) in the construction
area. Identify photograçhs as indicated iZl box 6.
8. Indicate the location of any known historical or archaeological site(s) wit~in the
pr:>ject limits.
N/A
9. Submit copy or any completed envirorunental studies or reports on the proposed
project.. N/A
10 Discuss alternat.ives to the proposed project. which were investigated including
alternative locat.ions, disposal a::-eas, const.ruction techniques etc. and why they
'Ñe=e rejected.
DO NOTHING -will not permit access to the water or existing pier and boathouse
THEREFORE. THIS .'\.LTERNATIVE IS NOT .'\.CCEPT.'\BLE.
NANY FORM-201
Feb-73
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Proposed Action
RE: Thatcher Pier Repair Application
Fishers Island, NY
SCTM ill 1000-3-3-7
Proposed Action
The Thatchers wish to restore and repair (in-king and in-place) the existing pier and
boat house located on their Fishers Island property. The proposed restoration will
include the reconstruction of the cribbing and pile foundations that were original
construction c. 1930. Please see the attached site plan.
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September 16, 1997
Albert J. Krupski
Board of Town Trustees, Town of Southold
Town Hall
POBox 1179
Southold, NY 11971
RE: Thatcher Pier Repair (in-kind in-place) Application
Fishers Island, NY
SCTM ill 1000-3-3-7
Dear Mr. Krupski:
Please find enclosed the following materials necessary to submit an application
(Grandfather Permit) for the project at the above referenced property:
1) Completed Application for permit
2) Short Environmental Assessment Form
3) Site Plan and Cross Section
4) Survey
5) Project Narrative and photos
6) Agent Permittee Authorization Form
If you have any questions, I am available to talk with you or if necessary meet a
member of your staff at the site. You may contact me at 516-288-2271.
Very truly yours,
First Coastal Corporation
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William Mack
WBM/ss
cc R. Thatcher
First Coastal Corporation, Postal Box 1212
Westhampton Beach, NY 11978 (516) 288-227l/FAX (516) 288-8949
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2. SITE IS IN THE TOV>lN OF SOUTHOLD, COUNTY OF SUFFOLK
TAX MAP 1000, SECTION 00:3, BLOCK 00:3, LOT 1.
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COMPANY, M. LLEV>lELL YN THATCHER AND RICHARD THATCHER
ACCORDANCE V>lITH THE MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR TITLE
SURVEYS OF THE NEV>I YORK STATE LAND TITLE AS50CIATIO~
TITLE No. 12<16 - 05525
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New York District
Jacob K Javits Federal Building
New York, N.Y. 10278-0090
ATTN: Regulatory Branch
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In replying refef to:' ,
Public Notice Numder:
Issue Date:
Expiration Date:
1997-11180-L2
June 26, 2001
July 26, 2001
To Whom It May Concern:
The New York District. Corps of Engineers has received an application for a Department of the
Army permit pursuanl to Section 10 of the Rivers and Harbors Act of 1899 (33 USC 403) and Section
404 of the Clean Waler Act (33 USC 1344).
APPLICANTS: Richard and M, Llewellyn Thatcher
P.O. Box 742
Branford. CT 06405-0742
ACTIVITY: Install a wave break
WATERWAY: Fishers Island Sound, Long Island Sound
LOCATION: Fishers Island, Town of Southold, Suffolk County. New York
A delailed description and plans of the applicants' activily are enclosed to assist in your review.
The decision whether to issue a permil will be based on an evaluation of the probable impact.
including cumulative impacts. of the proposed activity on the public interest. That decision will reflect
the national concern for both protection and ulilization of important resources. The benefits which
reasonably may be expecled to accrue from the proposal must be balanced against its reasonably
foreseeable detriments. All factors which may be relevanl to the proposaJ will be considered including
Ihe cumulative effecls thereof; among those are conservation, economics. aesthetics. general
environmental concerns. wellands. historical properties. fish and wildlife values, floodplain values. land
use, navigation. shoreline erosion and accrelion. recreation, water supply and conservation. water quality,
energy needs. safety. food and fiber production. mineral needs. consideration of property ownership and.
in general. Ihe needs and welfare of Ihe people.
The Corps of Engineers is soliciting comments from Ihe public; Federal, state. and local agencies
and officials; Indian Tribes; and olher interested parties in order to consider and evaluale the impacts of
, Ihis proposed activily. Any comments received will be considered by the Corps of Engineers to determine
whether to issue. modify. condition or deny a permit for this proposal. To make this decision, comments
are used to assess impacts on endangered species, historic properties. water quality, general
environmental effects, and the other public interest factors listed above. Comments are used in
preparation of an Environmental Assessmenl and/or an Envirorunental Irnpacl Statement pursuanl to the
National Envirorunental Policy Act. Comments are also used to delermine the need for a public hearing
and to detennine the overall public interesl of Ihe proposed activity.
ALL COMMENTS REGARDING THE PERMIT APPLICATION MUST BE PREPARED IN
WRITING AND MAILED TO REACH THIS OFFICE BEFORE THE EXPIRATION DATE OF THIS
NOTICE, otherwise. it will be presumed that there are no objections to the activity.
Any person may request. in writing. before Ihis public nOlice expires. thaI a public hearing be
held 10 collecl inforrnalion necessary to consider Ihis applicalion. Requesls for public hearings shall stale.
CENAN-OP-RE
PUBLIC NOTICE NO. 1997-11180-1-L2
with particularity, Ihe reasons why a public hearing should be held. It should be nOled that information
submitted by mail is considered just as carefully in the permit decision process and bears the same weighl
as that furnished al a public hearing.
Our preliminary delermination is thallhe activity for which authorization is sought herein is nor
likely 10 affect any Federally endangered or Ihrealened species or their critical habitat. However.
pursuant to Section 7 of the Endangered Species Act (16 USC 1531), Ihe District Engineer is consulting
with the appropriate Federal agency 10 determine the presence of and potential impacts to listed species
in the project area or their critical habitat.
Based upon a review of Ihe latesl published version of the National Regisler of Historic Places,
Ihere are no known siles eligible for, or included in, the Regisler within the permit area. Presently
unknown archeological, scientific, prehistorical, or historical dala may be losl by work accomplished
under Ihe required permit.
Reviews of activilies pursuanllo Section 404 of the Clean Water Act will include application of
the guidelines promulgaled by the Administrator, U. S. Environmental Proteclion Agency, under authorily
of Section 404 (b) of Ihe Clean Waler ACI and Ihe applicants will obtain a water quality certificale or
waiver from the appropriate stale agency in accordance with Section 401 of Ihe Clean Water ACI prior
10 a permit decision.
Pursuanllo Section 307 (c) of the Coaslal Zone Management Act of 1972 as amended [16 USC
1456 (c)], for activilies under consideration Ihat are located wilhin Ihe coastal zone of a state which has
a federally approved coaslal zone management program, the applicants have certified in the permit
applicalion Ihat the activity complies with, and will be condUCled in a manner that is consislent with, Ihe
approved Slate coastal zone management program. By Ihis public notice, we are requesling the state's
concurrence with, objection 10, or waiver of the applicants' certification. No permil decision will be
made until one of Ihese actions occur. For aClivities wilhin Ihe coastal zone of New York State, the
applicants' certification and accompanying information is available from Ihe Consislency Coordinator,
New York Slale Department of Slate, Division of Coastal Resources and Walerfront Revilalization,
Coastal Zon~ Management Program, 41 Slate Slreel, Albany, New York 12231. Telephone (518) 474-
6000. Comments regarding Ihe applicanls' certification, and copies of any letters 10 this office
commenting upon this proposal, should be so addressed.
In addition to any required water quality certificale and coastal zone management program
concurrence, the applicants have oblained or requested Ihe following governmental aUlhorizalion for the
aClivity under consideration:
Town of Southold permit
New York Slale Department of Environmental Conservation permit
It is requested Ihat you communicale Ihe foregoing information concerning the activity 10 any
persons known by you to be interested and who did not receive a copy of Ihis nOlice. If you have any
queslions concerning this application, you may contact Denise Butls at (212) 264-3913.
For more information on New York Dislrict Corps of Engineers programs, visil our website at
http://www.nan.usace.army.mil
FOR THE DISTRICT ENGINEER:
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PUBLIC NOTICE NO. 1997-11180-1-L2
WORK DESCRIPTION
The applicants, Richard and M. Llewellyn Thatcher, have requested Department of the Anny
(DA) authorization to install a wave break in Fishers Island Sound, Long Island Sound located
at Fishers Island, Town of Southold, Suffolk County, New York.
The work would involve the installation of rubble mound breakwater along the nonh side of the
boat house, with a footprint of approximately 20 feet by 80 feet. The construction of the
existing boat house and internal structures was authorized by DA Permit No. 1997-11180.
The stated purpose of this project is to provide safe mooring for the applicants.
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James King, Vice·President
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Artie Foster
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P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971-0959
Telephone (631) 765-1892
Fax (631) 765-1366
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
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THOMAS ~, DOHERTY JII,
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Building 40 - SUNY, Stony Brook, New York 11790-2356
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Arr.:endment to Permit
April 18, 2001
M. Llewelyn Thatcher
P.O. Box 742
Branford, CT 06405-0742
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Re: UPA #
1-4738-01731/00001
Dear Permittee:
N/A Your recent request to extend the abov~ permit has been reviewed pursuant to 6NYCRR, Part 621,
The expiration date is extended to:
L Your recent request to modify the abov~ permit has been reviewed pursuant to 6NYCRR, Part 621. It
has determined that the proposed modifications will not substantially change the scope of Ihe permitted
actions or the existing permit conditions. The rdore, the permit is amended to authorize:
Install 80 feet of stone along north side of boat house as a wave attemlation device. AU work shall be
done in accordance to plans prepared by M. Llewellyn Thatcher on 4!9/01 and stamped NYSDEC
approved 4/18/01
Special Conditions: All stone for proposed project shall be brought m from an upland source, The
use of stone(s) in the !jdal wetland area adjacem to the project site is prohibited.
Only natural stone ismthorized, the use of broken concrete or demolition debris
is strictly prohibited.
This letter is an amendment to the original pecmit and as such, shall be av .ilable at the job site whenever
authorized work is in progress.
All other terms and conditions remain as writ en in the original permit.
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Board of Town Trustees, Town of Southold
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P.O. Box 1179
Southold, NY 11971
Attention: Lauren
Re: Thatcher Permit No. 4835, Fishers Island, NY, SCTM 10 1000-3-3-7
Dear Mr. Krupski,
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i The project being completed under the above permit included an 80-foot pile-
,\ supported breakwater. During the storm of December 12, 2000, the breakwater
,,,,'f I suffered severe wave damage in that its piles were broken at the bottom for :y. of its
Y I length. The next day the remains of the breakwater were towed to West Harbor to
ï~ insure that they did not become a danger to navigation, and subsequently cut up and
.:¡' removed. The structure was a complete loss.
''1'" This letter is a request for a modification to our permit to protect the boathouse from
wave attack. We propose to place a rubble mound breakwater just seaward of the
boathouse to act as a wave absorber. There is already a rock bedding layer there,
which came from the original rock cribbing. As that cribbing successfully protected
the boathouse for about 50 years, this similar approach seems logical. The
accompanying drawing shows our intent to place stones on top of the existing stone
bedding in front of and underneath the outer wall of the boathouse. The sizing of
these stones has been calculated using recommendations in the Shore Protection
Manual, Volume II, published by the US Army Corps of Engineers, Waterway
Experiment Station, 1984. We expect that the result should create a good habitat for
marine life, as did the old rock cribs.
A modification request has already been made to the New York State Department of
Environmental Conservation (DEC), and to the New York District, Corps of
Engineers, We hope that this will meet with your approval and theirs, Should there
be any questions, please contact me at the above address and number, or contact
my brother Richard B, Thatcher at his office: (212) 269-6405.
Sincerely yours,
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M, Llewellyn Thatcher .E. (New York No,042353-1)
For joint owners: M. Llewellyn Thatcher and Richard B. Thatcher
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Albert J. Krupski. President
John Holzapfel, Vice President
Jim King
Martin H. Garrell
Peler Wenczel
Town Hall
53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
Telephone (516) 765-1892
Fax (516) 765-1823
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Office Use Only
Coastal Erosion Permit Application
---Wetland Permit Application
~~randfather Permit Application
Waiver/Amendment/c~nÅes
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Completed Application
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Type I Type II Unlisted
Coordination: (date sent) ----
CAC Referral Sent:
Date of Inspection:
Receipt of CAC Report:
Lead Agency Determination:
Technical Review:
Public Hearing Held:
Resolution:
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Name of Applicant KIC-HA-t'l-D '"
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Suffolk County Tax Map Number: 1000 - :3 ~ .3'" 1-
Property Location: ¡:::, ~Eé.i2..'Ó Isl.k"-iþ , {\..J~
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AGENT:
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FIRST COASTAL CORP.
POST CF"FICE BOX 1212
WESTHAMPT,)N BEACH
lONG ISLAND, NY 119'nf
Address:
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Proposed Action
RE: Thatcher Pier Repair Application
Fishers Island, NY
SCTM ill 1000-3-3-7
Proposed Action
The Thatchers wish to restore and repair (in-king and in-place) the existing pier and
boat house located on their Fishers Island property. The structure was damaged in the
October 31, 1991 nor'easter. Over 50% of the structure is still intact and functional. The
proposed restoration will include the reconstruction of the cribbing and pile
foundations that were original construction c. 1930. Please see the attached site plan.
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FIRST
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B~ of Trustees APPlicatio~
GENERAL DATA
Land Area (in square feet): I . 4 c¡ -t/_ A-~s
Area Zoning:
Previous use of property:
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Intended use of property:
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Prior permits/approvals for site improvements:
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No prior permits/approvals for site improvements.
Has any permit/approval ever been revoked or suspended by a
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Yes
If yes, provide explanation:
Project Description (use attachments if necessary):
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WETLAND/TRUSTEE LANDS APPLICATION DATA
Purpose of the proposed operations:
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Area of wetlands on lot: ~)(' I. $""dO square feet
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Percent coverage of lot: . 0 2..~ %
Closest distance between nearest existing structure and upland
edge of wetlands: 0 - 1.51 feet
Closest distance between nearest proposed structure and upland
edge of wetlands: 0 - '¡'5"1 feet
Does the project involve excavation or filling?
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If yes, how much material will be excavated? ÆlAí cubic yards
How much material will be filled?
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Proposed slope throughout the area of operations:
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Depth of which material will be removed or deposited:
feet
Manner in which material will be removed or deposited:
Statement of the effect, if any, on the wetlands and tidal
waters of the town that may result by reason of such proposed
operations (use attachments if appropriate):
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PROJECT 1.0, NUMBER
617.21
Appendix C
Stollte Envlronmentolll au.lity Review
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SHORT ENVIROMENTAL ASSESSMENT
FORM
PART 1 - PROJECT INFORMATION (To be completed by Applicant or Project sponsor)
. APPLICANT fSPONSOR I' PROJECT NAME
Richard & M. Llewellyn Thacther In-Kind [n-Place Pier Reconslruclion
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3. PROJECT LOCATION:
MuniCIpality Fishers Island County S uffo lk
4. PRECISE LOCATION ¡Street address and road inrersectlOns, prominent landmarks, etc., or provide map)
Private Rd off Eas (See location map)
5, IS PROPOSED ACTION:
fX\.J,w r1:xpanslon íModlficatlonfalteratlon
6, DESCRIPE PROJECT BRIEFLY:
See attached Project Narrative
7, AMOUNT OF LAND AFFECTED:
Inrtially less than one acres Ulrimarely less than one acres
8, Will PROPOSED ACTION COMPLY WITH EXISTING ZONING OR OTHER EXISTING LAND USE RESTRICTIONS?
1Z]v" ONO If No, descridc brielly
9. WHAT IS PRESENT LAND USE IN VICINITY OF PROJECT?
IXIResidemlal DlndUStrlal DCommerclB1 DAgricutture DParkiForest/Openspace DOmer
Describe: Single Family Residential
10. DOES ACTION INVOLVE A PERMIT APPROVAL, OR FUNDING, NOW OR ULTIMATELY FROM ANY OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCY ¡FEDERAL.
STATE OR LOCAL)?
l8Jy" ONO It yes, list agency(sl and permit/approvals
Access 10 Navigable Water
II, OOES ANY ASPECT OF THE ACTION HAVE A CURRENTLY VALID PERMIT OR APPROVAL?
[J,,, I8JNo if yes, list agency name and permlrlapproval
T 2. AS A RESULT OF PROPOSED ACTION WILL EXISTING PERMIT/APPROVAL REQUIRE MODIFICATION'
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¡ CERTIFY THAT THE INFORMA TION PROVIDED ABOVE IS TRUE TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE
Appllcant'sponsor name: 1=1,2>; ,.- C""-S'T'AL / LJ,u., ~l.~ Date. S¡,'29/9ì
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If the action is in the Coastal Area, and you are ~ state agency, complete the
Coast Assessment Form before proceeding with this assessment
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RE: Thatcher Pier Repair Application
Fishers Island, NY
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Albert J. Krupski, President
James King, Vice-President
Henry Smith
Artie Foster
Ken Poliwoda
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Town Hall
53095 Route 25
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971-0959
Telephone (631) 765-1892
Fax (631) 765-1366
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
May 25, 200 I
Mr. M. Lewellyn Thatcher
Mr. Richard Thatcher
249 Southdown Road
Huntington, NY 11743
Re: Private Road, East End
Fisher's Island, NY
SCTM#3-3-7.l
Dear Mr. Thatcher:
The following action was taken by the Southold Town Board of Trustees at their Regular
Meeting held on Thursday, May 24,2001.
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Board of Trustees grant an Amendment to Permit #4835 to
replace the failed, pile-supported breakwater with a rubble-mound (stone) breakwater under and
lOft seaward ofthe boathouse. .
However, this permit does not constitute any other permits from other agencies.
If you have any questions, please call our office at 765-1892.
Sincerely,
~~Ski,~-~ fJv
President, Board of Trustees
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CC: DEC
Army Corp.
Dept. of State
Telephone
(631) 765-1892
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Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
Southold. New York 11971
SOUTHOLD TOWN
CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL
At the meeting of the Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council held Monday, May
14, 2001, the following recommendation was made:
RICHARD & LLEWELLYN THATCHER 3-3-7.1 to Amend Permit #4835 to replace ttie
failed, pile supported breakwater with a rubble-mound (stone) breakwater under and
10ft, seaward of the boathouse.
Private Rd., Fishers Island
The CAC did not make an inspection, therefore no recommendation was made.
Alberl J. Krupski, President
James King, Vice-President
Henry Smith
Artie Foster
Ken Poliwoda
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53095 Main Road
P.o. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
Telephone (516) 765-1892
Fax (516) 765-1823
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTH OLD
July 23, 1998
First Coastal Corp.
William Mack
P.O. Box 1212
Westhampton NY 11978
RE: RICHARD & LLEWELLYN THATCHER
SCTM II 3-3-7
Dear Mr. Mack,
The following action was taken at the Southold Town Board of
Trustees meeting on July 22, 1998:
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Board of Trustees approve the
request for an Amendment to Permit #4835 for the construction of
the pile supported wave breakwater, with condition that there be
no decking between the boathouse and breakwater and keep the
construction consistent with the DEC permit and that the
reconstruction of the cribs underneath the the walkway be added
to this Amendment.
However, this does not constitute approval from any other
agencies,
If you have any questions, please call our office at 765-1892.
Sincerely,
Sincerely,
tlLt~·1 r;. /~: 9,
Albert J. KrupSki, Jr,
President, Board of Trustees
AJK/djh
FIRST
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June 30, 1998
Diane
Board of Town Trustees, Town of Southold
Town Hall
POBox 1179
Southold, NY 11971
RE: Thatcher Permit # 4835
Fishers Island, NY
SCTM ill 1000-3-3-7
Dear Diane:
Please find enclosed a modification request for the above referenced permit. A revised
site plan now shows the additional request for the construction of a pile supported
wave breakwater. This breakwater is designed to minimize wave attack of the existing
boathouse structure and cribbing foundation.
A copy of the NYS DEC Permit # 1-4738-01731/00001 is included for your reference.
If you have any questions, I am available to talk with you or if necessary meet a
member of your staff at the site. You may contact me at 516-288-2271.
Very truly yours,
First Coastal Corporation
"þu- ;V/.Jr(.V
William Mack
WBM/ss
cc R. Thatcher
First Coastal Corporation, Postal Box 1212
Westhampton Beach, NY 11978 (516) 288-2271/FAX (516) 288-8949
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New York State Departmt of Environmental Conservation
Building 40 - SUNY
Slony Brook. New York 1 1790-2356
T~ephone (5161~0365
Facsimile (5161 ~0360
RECEIVED MAR D 9 1998
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John P. Cahill
Commissioner
AMENDMENT TO PERML~
Date: 31 s-Ic¡ ~
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Dear
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--- Your recent request to extend the above permit has been
reviewed pursuant to 6 NYCRR , Part 621. The expiration date is
e7te ded to
- Your recent request to modify the above permit has been
reviewed pursuant to 6NYCRR, Part 62~. It has been determined that
the proposed modifications will not substantially change the SCope
of the permitted actions or the existing permit conditions.
Therefore, the permit is amended to authorize: -:l ~:J+AII",+~,..ì G {:.
ðo' í:·M6~b~"'\C.-'Ak,,, ¡.o..<. .:s~k"l.~A"" I<_'.~e~:" {e'f'{st,:-S ",", ~ .
~",'¡'L.-."">,, I...> '<O"..'I1.-..Q""", .....'.K ~^""v-'.-"...'P(""" "'.(. 1_ ~.....-+--I d~.;¡./ 'ì I"./"?F.
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This letter is an amendment to the original permit and, as such,
shall be available at the jOb site whenever authorized work is in
progress.
All other terms and conditions remain as written in the original
permit.
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Very truly you1S, ,
C.Q~. rL -¡-:- !-kL~
Charles T. Hamilton
Deputy Regional
Permit Administrator
New York State Departm" of Environmental conservaon
Division of Environmental Permits
Building 40 - SUNY, Stony Brook, NY 11790-2356
Phone (516) 444-0365
Fax # (516) 444-0360
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John P. Cahill
Commissioner
December 4, 1997
Richard & M. Llewellyn Thatcher
249 Southdown Road
Huntington, NY 11743
RE: 1-4738-01783/00001
Dear Permittee:
In conformance with the requirements of the State Uniform
Procedures Act (Article 70, ECL) and its implementing regulations
(6NYCRR, Part 621) we are enclosing your permit. Please read all
conditions carefully. If you are unable to comply with any
conditions, please contact us at the above address.
Also enclosed is a permit sign which is to be conspicuously
posted at the project site and protected from the weather.
Very truly yours,
c.e 0":-1 -
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Charles T. Hamilton
Permit Administrator
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enclosure
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r>E.C PERMIT NUMBER
1-ma·01783/00001
FACllIlT/PROGRAM NUMBER(S¡
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PERMIT
Under the Environmental
ConservBtion Law
Decerrber 31, 1999
,
I TYPE OF PERMIT . New 0 Renewal 0 Modification 0 Permit to Construct 0 Permit to Operate
I
. Article 15, Title 5: protei:tion
of Waters
. 6NYCRR 608: Water Qual i ty
Certification
o Article 27, Title 7; 6NYCRR
360: Solid Waste Management
o Article 15, Title 15: Water
S,-","Y
o Article 17, Titles 7, 8: SPDES
o Article 27, Title 9; 6NYCRR
373: Hazardous Waste Management
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Article 19: Air Pollution
~ont ro l
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Article 34: Coastal Erosion
Management
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Article 15, Title 15: Water
Tnnsport
Article 15, "Title 15: Long
Island Wells
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Land
Article 23, Title 27: Mined
Reclamation
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Article 36: Floodplain
Management
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o Article 24: Freshwater Wetlands
G Articles 1, 3, 17, 19, 27, 37;
6NYCRR 380: Radiation Control
o Article 15, Title 27: Wi ld,
scenic and Recreational Rivers
.. Article 25: Tidal Wetlands
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PERJ4IT ISSUED TO TELEPHONE NUMBER
Richard and Jill. L lewell vn Thatcher (516) 692-4712
ADDRESS OF PERM I TTEE
249 Southdown Road
Kl.l"ltin;ton NY 11743
CONTACT PERsmI FOR PERM I TTEO \/ORK TELEPHONE NUMBER
First CoastaL Corp.
PO Box 1212 Westharncton Beach NY "978 (516) 288-2271
AAMENÐ ADDRESS OF PROJECT/FACILITY
Thatcher Property
Private Road oTf East End Road
LOCATION OF PROJECT/FACILITY
Fishers Islard NY 06350
COOIIIT TQI¡N WATERCCXJRSE NYTM CooROINATES
Chocomcunt Cove
Suffolk Southold Fishers Island Sound
DESCRIPTJ:ON OF AUTHORJ:ZED ACTJ:VJ:TY
(1) Replace 17 cross members beneath north side of boat house pier.
(Z) Replace inside slip pier with two 221 stringers and 31 wide decking.
(3) Replace 10 cross members on two crib structures on pi er to boat house.
(4) Reconstruct inkind/inplace 751 pier with 3 pairs 251 stringers with 31 decking on top.
All work shall be in accordance with the attached NYSDEC approved plan and cross section dated 12/4/97.
-
By acceptance of this permit, the permittee agrees that the permit is contingent upon strict c~liance with the
Eel, all applicable regulations, the General Conditions specified (see page 2) and any Special Conditions included as part of
thisptr'lllit.
DEPUTY REGIONAL PERMIT ADMINtSTRA- AODRESS
TOR: ,
Charles T, Ham; lton Bldg. 40, SUNY, Room 219, Stony Brook, NY 11790-2356
AUTIØIZED SIGNATURE \~ DATE
~~ Deceni)er I., 1997 Page 1 of 4
Inspections A .
l. The perml tted site o""faci 1 i ty, i nc 1 udi ng relevant ords, is subject to in-
spection at reasonable hours and intervals by an authorized representatlve of
the Department of Environmental Conservation (the Department) to determine
whether the permittee is complying with thlS permit and the ECL. Such represen-
tative may order the work suspended pursuant to ECL 71-0301 and SAPA 401(3). A
copy of this permit, including all referenced maps, drawings and special
conditions, must be availõble for inspection by the Department at all times at
the project site. Fai 1 ure to produce a copy of the permi t upon request by a
Department representat i 'Ie is a 'Ii 01 at i on of thi s permi t.
Permi t Changes and Renewals
2. The Department reserves the right to modify. suspend or revoke this permit when:
a) the scope of the permi tted act i vi ty is exceeded or a vi 01 at i on of any
. condition of the permit or provisions of the ECL and pertinent regula-
ti ons is found:
b) the permit was obtained by misrepresentation or failure to disclose
re 1 evant facts;
c) new material information is discovered; or
d) envi ronmenta 1 condit ions, relevant technology, or app 1 i cab 1 e 1 a'tI or
regulõtion have mâtarially changed since the permit WâS issued.
3. The permi ttae must submi t õ separate written apo 1 i cati en to the Department for
renewal, modificõtion or transfer of this permit. Such application must include
any forms, fees or supolemental information the Deoartment reauires. ~ny
renewal. modification or transfer grantea by the Department must be in writing.
4. The permittee must submit a renewal applicatien at least:
a) 180 days before expi rõti on of permi ts for State Pollutant Di seha rge
El i mi nat i on System (SPDES), Hazardous Waste Management Faci 1 i ti es
(H\~¡'¡F), major Air Pollution Comrol (.~FC) ana Solid \~õste Management
Facilities (SWMF); and
b) 30 days before expirõtion of all other permit types.
5. Unl ess express 1 y provi ded for by the Department. i ssuânce of thi s permi t does
not modify, supersede or rescind any order or determination perviously issued by
the Department or any of the terms, conditions or requirements contained in such
order or determinâtion,
Other Legal Obl igations of Permittee
6, The permittee has accepted express 1 y, by the e,~eçuti on of the app 1 i cati on, the
full 1 egâ 1 responsi bi 1 ity for a 11 damages, dl rect or i ndi rect. of whatever
nature and by whomever suffered, arising out of the project described in this
permit and hâS agreed to indemni fy and save harmless the State from suits,
actions, camages õnd costs of every name and description resulting from this
proj ect .
7. Thi sperm; t does not convey to the perm1 tte;; any ri ght to trespass uoon the
lands or interfere with the riparian rights of others in order to perform the
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interest in real or perscnal property held or vested 1n a person not a party to
the perml t '
8. The perml eta;; is raspons i D 1 e for obta 1 nl ng any other permits. apprcva 1 s. 1 è~ds ,
easements and rignts-cf-way that may be reqUlred for this project,
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ADDITIONAL GENERAL CONDITIONS FOR aLES 15 (Tille 51. 24. 25. )4 ¡and /J NY(RR part. T1. a et an )
'J Thd! If iu[ure operatIOns by the State 0 York require an al- other envIronment deleterious matenals dsso/';Iated ......Ith the
teratlon In the positIon or the structure or work herein authorized. or
It. m the opinion of the Department f)r Environmental ConservatIon
It shall cause unreasonable obstruction to the free navigatIon at said
w,,¡ters or flood tlows or enddn~er the health, safetY or welfare or
the people or the State. or cause Joss or destructIon or the natural
resources or the State. the owner may be ordered by the Department to
remove or alter the structural work. obstructions. or hazards caused
thereby wl[hout expense to the State. and if. upon the expira[1on or
revocatIon or this permit. the structure, rill. exca....atlon. or other
modificatIon or the watercourse hereby authorized shall not be com-
pleted. the owners. shall, without expense to the State, and to such
e:dentand In such time and manner 35 the Department or Environmental
Conservation may require. remove aU or any portIon or the uncompleted
structure or rill and restore to its former condition the na....lgable
and flood capacIty or the watercourse. No cfaLm shaH be made against
the State at Ne~v York on account ot any such remo....al or alteration
10 That the State or New York sha!1 In no case be liable ror any dama~e
Of In ury to the struCture or work herem authorized which may be caused
bv or result rrom future operations undertaken by the Scate for the
conservation or Improvement or na....lgatlon. or for other purposes, and
no claim or right co compensation shall accrue from any such damalje
11 Granung of this permIt does not relieve the applicant or the responSI·
bllitV or obtaininl:¡ any other permIsSion. consent or approval from
the U.S. Arm.... Corps or Enljmeers. us. Coast Guard. New York State
Qriice or General 5~r'lces or focal go....ernment which may be required
12 AI[ ne<:essarv precautions shall be taken to precIude COntamLnatlon
or any wetland or ·....ate~..a... bv suspended solids. sediments. rue!s.
solvents. lubricants. 'i!pox.... coatings. paints. concrete. leachate or anv
prOject.
1 J Any material dredged In the prosecutIon at the work hereIn permItted
shall be removed evenly. wlthou[ lea....lng large rli'ruse pIles. ridges across
the bed of a waterway or floodplain or deep holes that may have d
tendency to cause damage to navIg:able channels or !o the banks of
a waterway.
1": There shall be no unreasonable Interference .....Ith na....lgatlon by the .....ork
herein authorized T
15 If upon the expiratIon or revocation of this permit. the prOlect hereby
authonzed has not been completed. the applicant shall, wIthout expense
to the State. and to such extent and In such time and manner as the
Department or En....ironmental ConservatIon may reqUire, remove all or
any portion of the uncompleted structure or rill and restore the site
to its former condition. No claim 5haJl be made a~ainst the State or ~
New York on account or any such removal or alteratIon
16 It sranted under 6 NYCRR PJ.rt 008. the ,...,¡YS Department at Environ-
mental Conservatton herebv certifies that the subject prorec: will not
contra....ene effluent limitations or other limitations or Handards under
Sections 301. 302. 303. 306 and 207 of the (Jean 'Nater Act or 19;--
(?L 9S-11ïl provided that all or the conditions listed hereIn a.re me~
1 ï .\/1 dctlvlties authorized ~y this permit must !:Ie in stnc~ conrormance
with the approved plans submitted bv the applicant or his agent as part
at the permit applicatIon.
Such approved plans were ¡Jrepared by
First Coastal
12/2/97
.
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SPECIAL CONDITIONS
1.
All repairs to existing structures shall be confined to replacemc:nt of existing. elements.
with no change in design, dimension, or materials, unless specdìcally authonzed herem.
2.
No permanent structures may be installed on dock/catwalk/float without first obtaining
written Department approval (permit, modification, or amendment).
Dockslcatwalkslfloats may not (a) extend laterally beyond property lines, (b) be placed so
that docked boats extend over adjacent property line, (c) intertère with navigation, (d)
interfere with other landowners riparian rights.
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4. No dock construction is authorized outside footprint of boathouse and pier from upland to
boat house.
Anv further construction. reconstruÇtion or alteration to these strucrures will require
tùrÍher approval from the Department and the Southold Town Trustees and U.S. Army
Corps of Engineers.
5.
Supplementary Special Conditions (A) through (F) Attached
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The following condi~ ons apply to all Tidal We ands; Freshwater
Wetlands; Coastal Erosion Management; and Wild, Scenic, ~d
Recreational Rivers Pe~its:
MENTARY SPECIAL CONDITIONS
A. A copy of this permit, including all conditions and
approved plans, shall be available at the project site
whenever authorized work is in progress. The permit
sign enclosed with the pe~it shall be protected from
the weather and posted in a conspicuous location at the
work site until all authorized work has been completed.
E. The permittee shall require tha~ any con~ractor,
project engineer, or other person responsible for the
overall supervision of this project reads, understands,
and complies with ~his permi~ and all its general,
special, and supplementary special conditions. Any
failure to comply precisely with all of the terms and
condi~ions of this permit, unless authorized in
writing, shall be treated as a violation of the
Environmental ConserJation Law. If any of the permit
conditions are unclear, ~he permit~ee shall contac~ the
Division of Regulatory Affairs at the address on page
one or ~elephone (516) 444-0365.
c, If project design modifications become necessar£ af~er
permit issuance, the permittee shall sutmit the
appropriate plan changes for approval by the Regional
Permi~ Administrator prior to under~aking any such
modifications. The permittee is advised that
substantial modification mav recuire sutmission of a
new application for permit. - -
D, At least 48 hours prior to commencement of ~~e project,
the permittee and contractor shall sign and return the
top portion of the enclosed notification form
certifying that they are fully aware of and understand
all terms and conditions cf this permit. Within 30
days of completion of the permitted work, the bottom
portion of that form shall also be signed and returned,
along wi~h photographs of the completed work and, if
required, a survey.
E. For projects involving activities to be undertaken in
phases over a period of more than one year, the
permit~ee shall no~ify the Regional Permit
Adminis~rator in writing at least 48 hou=s prior to
recommencing work in subsequen~ years.
F. '"'['he '='....::::~-:-i!;c:' of th~~ ::~":--:-.~"": ...:¡;~-:: ~:~ :-"2~i~·:c "':::::c ;e~':"~-::'=-::
of the responsibility of obtaining a grant, easement, or
other necessary approval from the Division of Land
Utilization, Office of General Services, Tower Building,
Empire State Plaza, Albany, NY 12242 (516) 474-2195, which
may be required for any en~roachment upcn State-owned lands
underp.,;a ":!er.
DEC Pe=mit No.
1-4738-01783/00001
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NYSWlterf70llts
G~orgè E. ParJ.h.i
G()~·emor
AlexJ.nder F. Tre;:¡dwd[
Secrec.lry' oj SUtt!
William Mack
First Coastal Corporation
Postal Box 1212
Westhampton Beach, NY 11978
Re: F-97-649
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers/New York Dislrict Permit
Applicalion #97-11180-L2
Richard & M. Llewellyn Thalcher, Fishers Island Sound
Town of Southold, Suffolk County
Slalus of Consistencv Review
Dear Mr. Mack:
The Department of State is required to notify you of the status of our review of Ihis project for its consistency
with the New York State Coaslal Management Program if a decision has not been issued within three months
following commencement of our consislency review.
We cannot complete our consislency review for this projecl until we coordinate our findings with the involved
Federal, State and local agencies.
A copy of Ihis letter has been sent to the Corps of Engineers.
Please call Gary 1. Haight at (518) 474-6000 if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
¡;?lJf¿itmj~ .
~am F. Barron /d$
Chief, Consistency Review and Analysis
WFB:dlb
cc: COE/New York District - James W, Haggerty
NYS DEC/Region I - John Pavacic
Town of Southold - Albert J. Krupski, Jr.
NYS DEPARTME.vT OF STATE
DiVÚiQn of Coast.:ll ResQurces and \'C'atnfront R~ittJ;utjOlr
Albany, NY 122Jl-JOOI
Vòice: (518) 474-6000 Fax: (518) 473-1464
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January 7, 1998
NYSWáterfronts
G~orge E. PU.1ki
GI)':JenlOr
:\leXJ.nJer F. Tr~J.d\\.eJ
Secret.try Q/ !)U;<!
William Mack
Firsl Coastal Corporation
Postal Box t:212
Westhampton Beach, NY 11978
Re: F-97-649
U,S. Army Corps of Engineers/New York Districl Permil
Application #97-1 1180-L2
Richard & M, Llewellyn Thalcher, Fishers Island Sound
Town of Sourhold, Suffolk County
DEC #1-4738-01783/00001
Dear Mr. Mack:
The Department of Stale has completed its evaluation of your Federal Consislency Assessment Form and
certitïcation that the above proposed permit activity complies with New York State's approved Coastal
l\lanagement Program, and will be conducted in a manner consislent with this program,
Pursuant to 15 CFR Seclion 930,63, and based upon the project information submitted, the Department of
Stale concurs with your consistency certification. This concurrence is withoul prejudice 10, and does not
obviate the need to obtain all other applicable licenses, permits, and approvals required under exisling Slale
statutes.
The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is being notified of this decision by copy of this letter.
S incerel y ,
1J!k::Jf1!
Director
GRS:GJH:dlb
cc: COE/New York Districl- Denise Butts
DEC/Region 1 - John Pavacic
Town of Southold - Albert J. Krupski, Jr.
NYS ÐEP/IRTI.iE.,VT OF ST.~TE
Division of Coast~l ResollTCes and Waterfront Revitalization
Albany, NY 12231-0001
\foice: (518) 474·6000 Fax: (518) 473-246-1