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MEMBERS
Rober'~ W, ~i]rlspie, Jr, ChaJrm~n
Roberf B'erge~
Herber+ Rosenberg
Ch~r[es Gregon[s, ,~r,
Serge Doyen ,Jr,
SOUTHOLD, L.I., N.Y.
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MINUTES
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF APPEALS
December 6, 1962
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Board of Appeals
was held 7:30 P.M. (E.S.T.)~ Thursday~ December 6, 1962 at
the Town Office,~ Main Road, Southold,. New York.
There were present: Messrs. Robert W. Gillispie, Jr.,
Chairman, Robert Bergen, Herbert Rosenberg and Charles Grigonis, Jr.
Absent: Mr. Serge Doyen, Jr.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal NO. 531 7:30 P.M. (E.S.T.), upon
application of Robert Lo Hyatt, Horton Point, Southold~ New York,
a/c John Avies, Old Orchard Lane~ East Marion, New York, for a
variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance~ Article III,
Section 307, for permission to build attached garage on existing
dwelling leaving a 2 ft. side yard. Location of property: west
side Old Orchard Lane, East Marion~ New York~ bounded north by
Howard F. King~ east by Old Orchard Lane~ south by James Getches~
and west by Jean Schneider. Fee paid $5.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading application for
a variance, legal notice of hearing~ affidavit attesting to its
publication in the official newspaper and notice to the applicant.
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THE CHAIRMAN: The layout of this house on Old Orchard Lane
indicates a 16 fto side yard on the north side where the garage
is proposed to be built and a 25 ft. side yard on the south side
and rear yard of 225 ft. We were down there and took pictures
and examined the property. Apparently when the building was
originally built the driveway was to be on the south side.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application?
MR. ROBERT L. HYATT, Southold: I believe~erything is in the
application.
MR. HOWARD TERRY: That house isn't set square with the property
lines° It may be parallel to the road but not to the property lines.
MR. HYATT: When you were down looking at the property~ did
any of the neighbors object to this addition?
THE CHAIRMAN: Mr. King did not like the side of the garage
coming to within 2 feet of his lineo
MR. HYATT: Than I would suggest that you deny this appli-
cation°
MR. ROSENBERG: Did you know that when Mr. Bauer built this
house he left room on the south side for the garage and he also
placed the shrubs with that in mind. In the back there was one
tree that would have to be removed and he often used that side
for his driveway. Where a porch is indicated~ that is hardly a
porch, they are just steps. In Gardiners Bay'~states there are
very strict covenants and you can't put up anything without getting
Thorp§ written permission.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no response°)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
the present residence was erected about 10 years ago and at that
time a garage was planned in the south rear yard area and shrubbery
was placed accordingly. ~nere is ample room for a driveway. The
cesspools were placed in the north rear yard.
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There are no practical difficulties or hardships involved-
in the placement of the garage as provided in the Ordinance. The
existing porch mentioned in the application for a building permit
is non-existent.
Severe restrictions are found in all deeds for property in
the development.
Therefore on motion of Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Bergen,
it was
RESOLVED that Robert Lo Hyatt~ a/c John Avies~ Old Orchard
Lane, East Marion~ New York, be denied permission to build attached
garage on existing dwelling leaving a 2 ft. side yard.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mro Gitlispie~ Mro Bergen~ Mr.
Rosenberg~ and Mr. Grigoniso
On motion of Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Rosenberg~ it
wRs
RESOLVED that the minutes of November 23, 1962 be approved
as submitted.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mro Gillispie~ Mro Bergen~ Mr.
Rosenberg, and Mr. Grigonis.
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December 6, 1962
The Board of Appeals forwarded the following letter to the
Planning Board in response to their request for comments relative
to the application of Julius Zebroski, et al, for an Open Develop-
mentArea:
"Mr. John Wickham, Chairman
Southotd Town Planning Board
Southold, New York
Dear Mr. Wickham:
"A meeting was arranged for Saturday~ December 1~ 1962, 11:00
A.M. among Bob Gillispie, Herb Rosenberg, Julius Zebroski, Joe
Snellenburg~ Attorney Giordano representing the owners of the Bay
View property under consideration~ and any of his clients who could arrange
an appearance. Mr. Giordano and three of his clients appeared as did
Gillispie, Rosenberg, and Bob Tasker who offered his good offices to
assist. Sneltenburg and Zebroski did not appear.
"Technically the Board of Appeats has nothing to do with the
legal or zoning aspects of this matter° Snellenburg appeared in
June 1961 before the Board seeking access for a lot owned by one of
the group of nine or ten owners of the parcel we came together to
discuss. We have never had any dealings with them or anyone other
than that hearing°
"At this point we would like to inform you that in our 528 public
hearings and hundreds of informal meetings with the people of this
area who came to us for discussions relating to zoning matters we have
never witnessed so much misinformation~ violated agreements, broken
promises, maneuvers and manipulations, and very much harsher justified
wordage could be employed~ as is indicated by the records of this matter°
"The formal record in our minutes of June 3~ 1961, which is the
date of the only hearing we have held~ will disclose the pertinent
facts we uncovered and we suggest that your Board re-read those minutes°
A copy was submitted to you at that time and the office copy is avail-
able upon request to Mrs° Boken as our official records are filed with
the Town Clerk and the copies are in our office which you occupy
jointly with us.
"~ne present owners of the property have reached the limit of
their endurance and they are proceeding to the full extent to enforce
the agree~ents.
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"A thick file of the agreements and correspondence was available
at the two hour meet~g held on Saturday, December 1, 1962. Many of
the letters, ect.~ originated at Terry & Krupski and later from the
office of Joseph Snellenburg III.
"There is not much point in going into the machinations employed
by the seller. The buyers were not represented by counsel and the
deeds etc. were made out by Snellenburgo The records and correspondence
will speak for themselves° Snellenburg represented the seller.
"Counsel for the buyers will accept nothing less than the only
permitted legal action required under law, namely a subdivision accept-
able to the Planning Board which action will provide a marketable title
guaranteed in the deeds°
"Er. Giordano has specialized in real estate law for over twenty
years and ms well known to and on friendly terms with Bob Tasker. His
fine reputation is well established. The group of buyers consists of
fine people who are close friends and relatives and who ask only that
they be given possession of the property they purchased.
"You will find in our minutes of the only official contact we
have had with Zebroski and his attorney the reasons why access was
denied so there is no point in repeating the words of the action.
"We suggest, in response to your request contained in your letter
of November 21, 1962, that the open development action be denied unless
it is withdrawn. As rapidly as possible the surveys and drawings will
be made up and a complete application submitted to your Board for
approval of a subdivision° Mr. Giordano holds with us that there was
never any intent by authority to permit a bold evasion of the sub-
division regulations through a device which would allow property to be
broken up into parcels of four lots to avoid regulations. Your ~oard
has approved several small subdivisions in recent years which are about
the size of the present property.
"In considering a case before our Board the law does not allow
us to be influenced by the past performances of an applicant or the
probabilities of his future actions dark as the record may be. Our
action in June 1961 was based upon the facts we uncovered in spite of
the statements made by the applica~we stand upon that decision.
"We have learned that Snellenburg will no longer represent
Zebroski as he has placed the matter mn the hands of Walter Kapp
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December 6~ 1962
who will proceed with all haste to prepare the necessary documents
for subdivision° In spite of all that has happened we feel that
with your guidance this matter will be brought to a successful
conclusion so that the owners of the land will be able to construct
the residences they desire.
"Very truly yours, /s/ Robert W. Gillispie, Jr., Chairman,
Southold Town Board of Appeals."
The next meeting of the Southold Town Board of Appeals will
b~ held 7:30 P.M., Thursday, December 20, 1962, Town Office, Main
Road, Southold, New York.
On motion of Mro Gillispie~ seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED that the Board of Appeals set 7:30 P.M.~ Thursday,
December 20, 1'962~ Town Office, Main Road, Southold~ New York as
time and place' for hearing upon application or'salon De Goubeaud,
Youngs Avenue,~ South01d, New York, for a special exception in
accordance with the Zoning Ordinance~ Article IV, Section 408, for
permission to erect second wall sign on the north side wall of
business building in lieu of a ground sign° Location of property:
west side Youngs Avenue, SoUthold, New York, bounded north by
Socony Vaco Oil Coo, east by Youngs Avenue, south by E. Purcell,
and west by T. Frohnhoefer.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr.
Rosenberg, and Mr. Grigonis.
On motion of Mr. Rosenberg~ seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED that the Board of Appeals set 7:45 P.M. (E.S.T.),
Thursday, December 20, 1962, Town Office, Main Road, Southold~ New
York as time and place for hearing upon application of Tempest Homes
Corpo, Route 25A~ Rocky Point~ New York~ for recognition of access
in accordance with the New York State Town L~w, Section 280A.
Location of property: south side Mill Road, Mattituck, New York~
bounded north by Mattituck Holding Co., east by Holmes, south and
west by Mattituck Holding Coo
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr~
Rosenberg, and Mr. Grigoniso
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It was further RESOLVED that legal notice of hear~g be
published in the official newspaper on December 13, 1962.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-
Rosenberg~ and Mr. Grigoniso
Mr. Gillispie~ Mro Bergen~ Mr.
The Chairman informed the Board that the R.C.A. lease at
Stephenson Beach, Orient, has terminated and R.C.A. promised to
remove the building on the property by December 1st and they have
done so.
Meeting adjourned at 9:00 P.M.
Respectfully submitted~
Judith T. Boken, Secretary