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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-07/14/2025 OFFICE LOCATION: �QF SO(/T MAILING ADDRESS: Town Hall Annex ��� Ol0 P.O.Box 1179 54375 State Route 25 Southold, NY 11971 (cor.Main Rd. &Youngs Ave.) Southold, NY cn Telephone: 631 765-1938 G p� www.southoldtownny.gov UMY, PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD PUBLIC MEETING MINUTES July 14, 2025 5:00 P.M. Present were: James H. Rich III, Chairman Donald Wilcenski, Member Pierce Rafferty, Member Heather Lanza, Town Planning Director Brian Cummings, Senior Planner Mara Cerezo, Planner James Squicciarini, Deputy Town Attorney Jessica Michaelis, Senior Office Assistant Chairman Rich: Good evening and welcome to the Public Meeting for Monday, July 14, 2025 for the Southold Town Planning Board. This meeting is public. The Planning Board may add or remove applications from the agenda upon its discretion, without further notice. Applications may not be heard in the order they appear on this agenda. SETTING OF THE NEXT PLANNING BOARD MEETING Chairman Rich: The first order of business is to Board to set Monday, August 11, 2025 at 5:00 p.m. at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, as the time and place for the next regular Planning Board Meeting Donald Wilcenski: So, moved. Pierce Rafferty: Second. Southold Town Planninq Board Public Meeting —July 14, 2025 — Page-2 Chairman Rich: Motion made by Don, seconded by Pierce. Any discussion?All in favor? Ayes. Opposed? None. Motion carries. SITE PLAN APPLICATIONS SEQRA DETERMINATION Chairman Rich: 705 CR-48 Contractor Campus —This site plan application proposes two new buildings, each measuring 11,002.6 square feet, on a 2.57-acre parcel in the Limited Business Zoning District. Each building will be divided into 5 contractor business spaces, for a total of 10 contractor business spaces. The property is located at 705 CR 48, Mattituck. SCTM#1000-111-12-13 Pierce Rafferty: WHEREAS, this site plan is for the proposed development of two new buildings, each measuring 11,002.6 square feet, on a 2.57-acre parcel located in the Limited Business Zoning District in Mattituck; each building will be divided into five contractor business spaces, for a total of ten contractor business spaces; and WHEREAS, on May 5, 2025, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to §617.6 of the Environmental Conservation Law acting under SEQRA, initiated the SEQR lead agency coordination process with all involved and interested agencies for this Unlisted Action; and WHEREAS, on,May 5, 2025, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA) 6 NYCRR, Part 617, determined that the proposed action is an Unlisted Action as it does not meet any of the thresholds of a Type I Action, nor does it meet any of the criteria on the Type 11 list of actions; and WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to SEQRA, conducted the required review of potential environmental impacts that might result from this application, documented in the completion of the Full Environmental Assessment Form, and found that there would be no expected moderate to large adverse impacts; be it therefore Southold Town Planninq Board Public Meeting —July 14, 2025 — Page 3 RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to the State Environmental Quality Review Act §617.6, establishes itself as Lead Agency for this Unlisted Action; Donald Wilcenski: Second. Chairman Rich: Motion made by Pierce, seconded by Don. Any discussion? All in favor? Ayes. Opposed? None. Motion carries. Pierce Rafferty: And be it further RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board, as Lead Agency pursuant to SEQRA, hereby makes a determination of non-significance for the proposed action and grants a Negative Declaration. Donald Wilcenski: Second. Chairman Rich: Motion made by Pierce, seconded by Don. Any discussion? All in favor? Ayes. Opposed? None. Motion carries. APPROVAL EXTENSION Chairman Rich: The Enclaves Hotel — This proposed site plan is for the construction of a 44-unit, two-story hotel (62,338 sq. ft.), including 59,962 sq. ft.in the main building, 2,376 sq. ft. in 4 detached cottages, a full basement, accessory meeting/event and per- sonal services spaces, an outdoor swimming pool, and the conversion of a two-story dwelling to a 74-seat restaurant (3,610 sq. ft.), with a total of 160 parking spaces on a 6.75acre parcel in the Hamlet Business zoning district. The property is located at 56655 Route 25, Southold. SCTM#1000-63.-3-15 r Southold Town Planning Board Public Meeting —July 14, 2025 — Page 4 Donald Wilcenski: WHEREAS, on January 8, 2024, this Site Plan was approved for the proposed conversion of an existing 3,026 sq. ft. residence with a 584 sq. ft. addition, into a 74- seat restaurant and the construction of a hotel with 44 units, and an outdoor pool on 6.75 acres in the Hamlet Business Zoning District. The property is located at 56655 NYS Route 25, Southold. SCTM#1000-63-3-15; and WHEREAS, on June 13, 2025, the applicant requested an extension of site plan approval as detailed in the July 14, 2025 staff report; and WHEREAS, the Planning Board has observed that site work began last year, but was halted and no obvious progress has been shown on site over the past six months; and WHEREAS, at a Work Session held on July 14, 2025, the Planning Board reviewed the application and determined that the Site Plan remains in compliance with current rules and regulations; therefore be it RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board hereby grants a 12-month Extension of Approval, comprised of an initial six-month conditional extension from July 14, 2025 to January 14, 2026 for the site plan entitled "The Enclaves", prepared by Bryan Andrew Grogan, P.E., dated August 23, 2016 and last revised February 3, 2023, which shall automatically extend for an additional six months, through July 14, 2026, upon confirmation by Planning Department staff that the applicant has satisfied all conditions set forth below: Conditions 1. Immediately stabilize and cover open soil and sand piles with anchored tarps to prevent wind erosion and movement of sediment by wind — as required by the approved site plan, the SWPPP, and Town Code Chapter 236; 2. Provide clear proof of construction progress by December 15,,2025. Proof of progress will include that the foundations have been poured and first floor steel structure erected; 3. Provide a paper copy of the revised/approved SCDHS plan from June 25, 2024 for C-22-0081; 4. Submit a renewed/current NYSDOT Highway Work Permit#20231097500; 5. Provide documentation regarding the amount and type of material that has been exported from the site; 6. Buffer landscaping as required by conditions numbered #16 and #17 shall be planted as soon as feasibly possible; Southold Town Planning Board Public Meeting —July 14, 2025 — Page 5 7. No exportation of sand and soil beyond that which is necessary to construct the site as shown on the approved site plan. Pierce Rafferty: Second. Chairman Rich: Motion made by Don, seconded by Pierce. Any discussion?All in favor? Ayes. Opposed? None. Motion carries. SUBDIVISION APPLICATIONS EXTENSION of CONDITIONAL PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL Chairman Rich: NFBG Subdivision — This Standard Subdivision proposes to subdivide 28.9 acres into 3 lots where Lot 1 is 5 acres and includes a 2-acre development area and 3 acres of open space, Lot 2 is 19.63 acres upon which development rights have been sold, and Lot 3 is 4.17 acres and includes a 1.64-acre development area and 2.55 acres of open space in the AC Zoning District. The property is located at 2458, 2462 Elijah's Lane, Cutchogue. SCTM#1000-108.-8-6.3, 6.4 & 6.5 Pierce Rafferty: WHEREAS, this standard subdivision proposes to subdivide 28.9 acres into 3 lots where Lot 1 is 5 acres and includes a 2-acre development area and 3 acres of open space, Lot 2 is 19.63 acres upon which development rights have been sold, and Lot 3 is 4.17 acres and includes a 1.64-acre development area and 2.55 acres of open space in the AC Zoning District; and WHEREAS, the Conditional Preliminary Plat approval on the map entitled "NFBG Preliminary Plat" prepared by Howard Young, N.Y.L.S. dated April 12, 2023 expired on April 8, 2025, and the applicant is requesting more time to complete the conditions and submit a Final Plat Application; therefore be it RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board grants an extension of the Preliminary Plat Approval for this application from April 8, 2025 to April 8, 2026. Donald Wilcenski: Second. Southold Town Planning Board Public Meeting —July 14, 2025 — Page-6 Chairman Rich: Motion made by Pierce, seconded by Don. Any discussion?All in favor? Ayes. Opposed? None. Motion carries. EXTENSION of CONDITIONAL FINAL PLAT APPROVAL Chairman Rich: Peconic Onwego Standard Subdivision —This Standard Subdivision proposes to subdivide a 3.65-acre parcel into 2 lots. Lot 1 equals 2.73 acres and Lot 2 equals 0.92 acres in the Limited Business and Residential Office Zoning Districts. The property is located at 32900 County Road 48, Peconic. SCTM#1000-74.- 4-14.3 Donald Wilcenski: WHEREAS, this Standard Subdivision proposes to subdivide a 3.65-acre parcel into 2 lots. Lot 1 equals 2.73 acres and lot 2 equals 0.92 acres in the Limited Business and Residential Office Zoning Districts; and WHEREAS, on July 9, 2024 the Southold Town Planning Board granted Conditional Final Plat Approval upon the map entitled "Standard Subdivision of Peconic Onwego" prepared by Kenneth M. Woychuck Land Surveying dated February 16, 2020, and last revised February 17, 2022, and WHEREAS, on July 9, 2025 Conditional Final Plat Approval expired, and the applicant has requested additional time to complete the conditions of approval; therefore be it RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board grants an extension of Conditional Final Plat Approval, from July 9, 2025 to July 9, 2026. Pierce Rafferty: Second. Chairman Rich: Motion made by Don, seconded by Pierce. Any discussion?All in favor? Ayes. Opposed? Southold Town Planninq Board Public Meeting —July 14, 2025 — Page 7 None. Motion carries. 'PUBLIC HEARINGS Chairman Rich: 5:03 PM - 705 CR-48 Contractor Campus —This site plan application proposes two new buildings, each measuring 11,002.6 square feet, on a 2.57-acre parcel in the Limited Business Zoning District. Each building will be divided into 5 contractor business spaces, for a total of 10 contractor business spaces. The property is located at 705 CR 48, Mattituck. SCTM#1000-113,12-13 We will start with the applicant's representative and then move to members of the public for comment. Please remember to address the Planning Board as you speak. All comments will be recorded for the project file and we appreciate your cooperation. Jessica Michaelis: For the record, the sign posting and certified mailings were done correctly. Ronald Kolb: My name is Ronald Kolb, architect. I'm the architect on record for this property. We're proposing two steel buildings, approximately 11,000 square feet on 2.57 acres. These buildings are going to have five contractor spaces, potential contractors could be electricians, plumbers, HVAC contractors, irrigation installs and each of these spaces will be an office— a small office and one handicapped bathroom. The buildings are approximately 189 feet by 58 feet wide, less than 18 feet tall. Each space will be about 2,202 square-foot. We're proposing these buildings because there's a need for this type of space in the community. Many potential clients have reached out to my client over the years, asking for this type of space for rent. There are few other similar sized buildings in the areas for various purposes, but they're already rented out. These new buildings are set back from the front & rear property line; 100 feet and the rear property line is only 75 feet required for a setback so we're adding the extra 25 feet. The rear of the building- there's gong to be a natural buffer and it about 45 feet to the curb from the property line. So that will reduce the screening of the building and reduce the noise and the front yard, to the west side— all-natural vegetation will remain. To the east side, we're going to vegetate it more natural too —since its kind of bare now. Most of the site will remain natural vegetation except where that space is there now between Strawberry Fields, we're going to fill that in also with natural vegetation and all that opening so it screens it from Strawberry Fields, not big silver buildings. We're not asking for any bulk variances for the size of building, lot coverage, FAR setbacks, just a special exemption variance. That's about it. Chairman Rich: Thank you. Do any of the Planning Board members have any questions for the Architect? Donald Wilcenski: Not at this time. Southold Town Planning Board Public Meeting —July 14, 2025 — Page 8 Paul Palowksi: Hello, I'm Paul Palowski, Owner of 705 Old Country Road or North Road. So, I just— I did hear some of the comments from Mark in reference to some of the SEQRA issues and things of that nature. First, I want to state that this is a project that is not only by right but also is needed. It aligns well with the existing code and the proposed code and what I mean by that—we feel we'll be able to'fill this building with the permissible uses. The reason we're going to go for the Special Exception is just because the new code is not adopted yet but again, if you look at the existing code and the proposed code, it does align well for,what we're proposing. The biggest thing I want to say is we're proposing mainly interior use— contractor use or warehouse use. If you look at the Site Plan, it's not designed really for any sort of exterior storage or trailers or anything of that nature, the goal is to give people storage, clean office space and work— be able to conduct their business. Twenty years ago, I built the building just north of Wendy's Deli, where Peconic Excavation is, when I had my landscaping company. That's not the goal, at all, for this type of property because - if you look at the Site Plan — by default, its really mainly for interior use. And that's important because, it's all interior use, it's not exterior, it's not going to be for landscapers at all or anything of that nature. So that's a big noise mitigation factor that I just wanted to point out. As far as screening to the west, it'll stay to the west and the north, it will stay largely untouched, a natural buffer. We exceed what the code requires to the closes residential neighbor, to the east, it is open and we'll welcome any ideas or anything you want but we'll heavily screen it to the east, we'll heavily screen it along the North Road. This really is for' contractors that conduct business but it's not really a retail type of situation, we could screen it as much as the Planning Board and staff want me to. So that's not a problem, and certainly to the North —that heavily wooded area would stay as is for that buffer area. As far as.traffic and noise goes, we will not even come close to what's already in the area with the strip mall or what happens at Strawberry Fields, we're not even in the hemisphere of traffic problem compared to other areas. At that area — it's probably one of the slowest points on the North Road because, living out here, because there's two lights there's the light almost in front of the property and then there's the light at Wendy's Deli or Cox Necks Lane. So naturally, we all slow down there and then the lights make us slow down, the visibility pulling into that property is very good already, it will only get better with proper curbing and there's a huge shoulder there. This is not being built for tractor-trailers. Yes, will Amazon deliver there? Or UPS and things like that? Yeah, but it's really being built for indoor contractor use and I keep saying that because I think it's important when it comes to noise and the spaces that we are proposing are small spaces. 2,000 square-foot spaces and,under, so you're not going to have a large company with a ton of employees in each space. It's really for smaller companies to have a place to rent which they currently are not a lot of opportunity for that on the North Fork by any means. So, we feel with the indoor use, the buffers we're going to do, the noise coming from this property will be very limited. The traffic will be limited and the lights in the area, the shoulder, the visibility is very good. DPW's ready to sign off on this once they get the referral from Planning so those are just kind of common-sense comments that I just wanted to come back with based on some of the comments I heard earlier. And again, you know, we are not looking for a variance, the special exception is only because it's very confusing on what's permitted and not in a way. The new code is much clearer and if the new code was adopted, we wouldn't even Southold Town Planning Board Public Meeting —July 14, 2025 — Page 9 need to go for a special exception. Even if we're denied the Special Exception, we're still going to just go for permitted uses at the code stands now. So, our goal, on a Planning level, is really to address any comments you may have, do any'screening you are asking for, mitigate any concerns you have and really to do what we can with this site and give this the ability of local contractors a space to rent that conforms with all the codes and aligns well with the code. So, I'm happy to answer any questions you may have. Chairman Rich: Thank you. Anyone else wishing to address the Planning Board? We do have two podiums here. Please state your name and write your name for the record. Thomas Talbot: I lived in Mattituck behind this proposed project. I took a look at the Site Plan and it's got a maximum build out of buildings- square footage 22,000 square- foot total. Multiple contractors and rental spaces in a campus setting. And the first thing I thought is: seems like quite a large project for the LB zone and I went and looked into the Industrial zoning and there it is in LIO — multiple contractors' spaces in a campus like setting in the LIO and I said: "That doesn't fall under the Limited Business." You're allowed to have shops, retail spaces, there's a lot of things, you know, contractors, all that's allowed but this is just an industrial project with a massive step-up in business activity. One thing that I saw in there is that you have a lot of—well let's see, lets back up to the actual Site Plan. I thought I heard this gentleman say that they had a 100-foot setback on the back property,_I thought I saw only 75 foot and I thought by the code it was supposed to be 90 feet. So, I don't know what it is now, is it 90 feet, is it 100 feet or is it 75 feet? That's one thing. So, the other thing that I saw, there's no loading and unloading zone, so you're going to have 10 businesses in there and contractors —that's a pretty wide net of businesses. Like he said, electrical contractors, pluming contractors, everybody that's kind of business oriented in there and one thing you're going to have every day that those things have in common is deliveries. And its not going to be just Amazon and UPS, its going to be tractor trailers, street trucks with those Moffet forklifts bringing in pallets of whatever, stone, pluming material, that's going to go on every day, especially with ten businesses and they have only parking spaces, there's no loading zone. I don't think they could even fit a loading zone in there, so that's another comment. Then I see that there's a metal gate on the east side of the property that they plan to leave in place that they said was existing —that was installed in 2019 illegally by the prior owner and it should be removed and it should be a hard buffer there because right next to that, there's a public right of way and for sure those deliveries are going to be going on that public right of way, there going to be taking place in the street and I don't think that public right of way should be utilized for this business or any of those businesses. 11,000 square-foot, two buildings right next to the Strawberry Festival fairgrounds, that's quite —when you come up that hill, that's quite an eye sore when you see two 11,000 square foot buildings. As far as noise goes, I don think that's probably a real problem, you know, there is quite a heavily wooded area — like he said- but in the wintertime all those leaves go off and that whole noise buffer goes away, so there's got to be something else proposed there, either a fence and some more shrubs that are there for in the wintertime for when the leaves go away. I would not be here today if this was a contractor coming gin saying he's going to build his business and get on with it, Southold Town Planning Board Public Meeting —July 14, 2025 — Page 10 you know, that's what it's zoned for but this multiple contractors in a campus-like setting is an Industrial Zone use. The other thing, I saw the other day on my property in front, there was two stakes that said "New poles" and I'm trying to figure out what are these— who put these up? It seems to me like the electrical, LOCO, LIPA or PSEG must be getting ready to stake out poles to come across with power and I don't know why they're going to put them in front of my property when they should be putting them in front of this property. I don't know how to find out about that, I understand that it's not the Town, its PSEG, how do I go to find out about how that electric comes in and if it's going to impede my property, which will then hinder me from getting a curb cut in the future, you know, on the vacant lot. We have west of that, we own two vacant lots and I have a . repair shop right next to Wendy's Deli, it's also an agriculture equipment shop, we do implements, farm tractors, farm trucks, grocery trucks, you name it— if it's out here on the east end, we work on it, you know, landscaper trucks. We're pretty—for the most part— nobody knows were even there, except for the people that use us and I've been there for over 25 years and I've had no complaints. I own the parcel in that back which is where I live and that's about it. I think this project belongs in the Industrial Zone, it's a campus-like setting with multiple contractor units and the biggest problems is going to be the deliveries are going to take place on Route 48, there going to take place—when a truck driver comes in, he don't care where he unloads, he's waiting, he wants to get unloaded and he'll park wherever. Theres a lot of trucks that park on Route 48 and they go to the deli and I tried to get them to stop parking in from of my property because they keep coming up onto the lawn, next thing I know threes 5,6,7,10 feet in where they created a mud hole. Five years, Ten years ago when they repaved 48, 1 got a letter in the mail that 'if you're going to do anything, this is the time to do it' so right- a week before they came to pave the road, I said "I'm going to put a curb out front, going from the existing curb on the deli, in front of my property and then in front of the vacant parcel to where the walkway was' where there was an existing curb. So, I proceeded to do it, I hired a contractor and I put in two curbs and the guy that was running the project, didn't know their office was at the Wendy's deli complex, but he goes to me "Well what are you doing?" I said "I got a letter in the mail said if I'm going to do something..." He goes "Well you can't do it like this; you can't just put a curb in." So, he called up somebody and they got the approvals and I was able to put the curb in and it's been a blessing because it keeps all those tractor trailers from moving in off of the highway, which they do, which they do, both sides of the road. I see they did have curbs proposed there and that's a good thing, but I don't think that—you've made a comment about a wide shoulder, that's where those deliveries are going to be taking place and you can see the right-of-way? I'm sure those people are going to be in there also and that needs to be addressed. Thank you. Chairman. Rich: Anyone else? Paul, we'll come back to you at the end. Anyone else? Sharon Jacobs: Hi, my name is Sharon Jacobs and this is my husband, Jim. We are directly north of the property, right behind him and we had only heard by word-of-mouth a few months ago that this was bought and this was going to place. I did call the Town Hall right away just to see what exactly it might be and I believe it was Kim that I spoke to and she said `It's early on, you know, we'll talk again in June.' We only knew about Southold Town Planning Board Public Meetinq —July 14, 2025 — Page 11 this because Tom, our neighbor, gave us a copy of the letter, we never received anything in reference to this so we're kinda-sorta not really prepared, but the one thing that I'm concerned about and I know they said they would address noise. We're directly behind them, noise, what - I think I pulled it up on the website where it said 'businesses on weekends' you know, when you work all week and then you want to enjoy your weekend, if it's summertime outside, there's going to be noise and there's ten units. thought that it would be just, in conversation, storage, when you're talking — like Tom said- business. Pretty much everything that Tom said is what we think. James Jacobs: No, I just think it's too big of a project for where its at, it belongs more in an Industrial place, just like Tom stated. It seems like one or maybe two contractors should go in there. It doesn't fit in the area. Sharon Jacobs: Yeah, and when I saw the Planning of this, I thought of the area that's over by the dump, you know, all the individual places and you go by there every day, there's,always commotion, there's things going on. So, with us being residential, directly behind him, we have concerns. Thanks. Chairman Rich: Thank you. Please be sure to put both of your names down? Thank you both for your comments. Thank you. Anyone else?Anyone on Zoom? Jessica Michaelis: On Zoom, we have Chris, please state your name for the record and address your comments to the Board please. Chris Shashken: I was wondering about traffic exiting and entering. So, specifically, in the morning, any vehicles that would need to hit eastbound when they exit the proposed campus, they would have to go to the light, there's no left-hand turn lane there and, I'm not a traffic engineer, but I don't know how a pickup truck with a trailer behind it could safely make a U-turn there. It's going to back up westbound traffic behind that person and then any traffic heading east would also be backed up if someone's not making a U-turn. Likewise, in the evening, when vehicles are coming west from, let's say Riverhead, they're going to have to make a U-turn by Strawberry fields in order to go back to their office. So, I'm just wondering how that's going to pan out. Chairman Rich: Thank you for your comments. Again, all comments are being recorded and will be addressed by the Planning Board, we won't say that we are going to mitigate or resolve all of them, but they are being recorded and they will be considered. Again, thank you for your comment. Anyone else? Paul, if you want to make a brief rebuttal. Again, please address the Board. Southold Town Planning Board Public Meetinq —July 14, 2025 — Page 12 Paul Palowski: Yes, owner of 705. So just to answer some of the questions that I heard. Again, I agree with the deciduous trees maybe in the winter they lose their foliage so we're happy to put a fence on all sides of the property, whatever the Planning Staff proposes. We're also happy to line it with evergreens on all sides, in between the natural buffer. So however we could help mitigate that, the fence will be — in reference to the Town property to the east, it only says existing gauge because the surveyor put it on there but we have- that's going to be fenced and tree —we'll throw that gate out, actually, I think the gate was thrown out by the Lion's club when they used it last, so we will property buffer and fence off the entire east property line to make sure that there's no —you know—deliveries or access to Strawberry Fields or the Town's property. As far as deliveries, if you look at the site, while it seems like a lot with ten spaces, they're small spaces and how we designed the parking lot lends itself to accept deliveries very well. For instance, if you're working in-the building, you're going to be in one of the parking spots either east or west of the buildings. The middle lane, you know, there's three areas on this property for deliveries, you know, whether it's during construction, or long-term use so the Site Plan itself lends itself to be very acceptable for deliveries because they could pull in, make a right, loop around and go between the buildings and deliver to each potential tenant. I don't see any reason anyone would need to stay on 48 and then run in a'crawler or delivery from there with how we designed this Site Plan. It's very user friendly for cars and trucks and deliveries. Theres ample space for that. As far as the setback question, it's 75 feet by code, we're at 100 to the building. PSEG will make sure that they're not posting, that they're not putting polls on anyone private property, we don't really have a say in that but we can ask them what their plan is when we go for any sort of electric. As far as visibility, the tallest part of this building is 16- or 17-feet max. So with the trees that are already there and the proposed trees, I think, within a short period of time, you'll barely ever see this building and, you know, we're looking similar, clean, similar to all the Morton building out there or whatever, you know, clean, white building but again, much shorter in height that even, these are comparable to the storage buildings in Cutchogue. I'm only pointing those out just to help mitigate some concerns and, the biggest one is, I agree, we don't want deliveries out on the road, we'll have the proper curbing and I think it's going to help when this is developed, it'll help, you know, naturally people will always pull on a piece of grass when there's a home not there or its vacant, I think, hopefully there's more respect when there is a building there from random people just parking there an going to the deli or wherever they go, That's it and-we continue to look forward to mitigate any concerns. Thank you for your time. Chairman Rich: Thank you. Anyone else? Tom Talbot: Can I speak here? So, is this an allowed use in this zoning? A contractor building in a campus setting? Cuz, I don't see that in the LB Zone. Heather Lanza: Do you want me to answer that? Chairman Rich: Yes, please. Southold Town Planninq Board Public Meeting —July 14, 2025 — Page 13 Heather Lanza: I could answer that, so the Planning Board doesn't make that determination, it's,the Chief Building Inspector, so when we go through the Site Plan process, the first step is going to the Building Department where they write something called a Notice of Disapproval and they state it in that notice, after reviewing this, that it was a permitted use with Special Exception and then at the end if the Site Plan process, the Chief Building Inspector will issue something called a Use Certification that states — we would assume — that the use in permitted. So, it's really not in the prevue of the Planning Board to make that determination, this is going for Special exception so, have they had a hearing yet? Mara Cerezo: August 7th Heather Lanza: So, their hearing is August 7th, the ZBA can address that question as well as the Chief Building Inspector so that would be a place to talk about whether the use is permitted at the Zoning Board of Appeals. Tom Talbot: What is a Special Exemption or Exception? Heather Lanza: Do you want me to answer that? Chairman Rich: Yes, please. Heather Lanza: The Special Exception is —so there's two levels of permitted use in the code, there's permitted uses and then a use called Special Exception where you have to get ZBA approval and meet certain conditions, so this falls under that category. So, they need Site Plan, they also need Zoning Board of Appeals Special Exception review and approval. Tom Talbot: Okay, I still think that the project should have an off-street loading and unloading zone, you know, all those little parking spaces, when they're filled up with cars. I see there's also overhead doors on both sides of each building so that means there's going to be activity in that middle corridor and I'm sure, any kind of contractor gets deliveries by large trucks, not just UPS, Amazon, or Fed Ex, they get deliveries by large trucks and pallets and I think that there should be room for a loading zone. That's it. Chairman Rich: Tom, thank you for your comments. Anyone else wish to address the Planning Board on this? Do we have anyone else on Zoom? Donald Wilcenski: I think there are some great questions and it's a great start. With that, I make a motion to close the hearing. Pierce Rafferty: Second. Southold Town Planning Board Public Meeting —July 14, 2025 — Page 14 Chairman Rich: Motion made by Don, seconded by Pierce. Any discussion?All in favor? Ayes. Opposed? None. Motion carries. Chairman Rich: This concludes the business of our meeting tonight. Can I get a motion for adjournment? Donald Wilcenski: So moved. Pierce Rafferty: Second. Chairman Rich: Motion made by Don, seconded by Pierce. Any discussion?All in favor? Ayes. Opposed? None. Motion carries. There being no further business to come before the Board, the meeting was adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Allison Palmeri Transcribing Secretary d�fames H. Rich III, Chairman