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Town of Southold Zoning Board of Appeals -7Vq
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Southold,New York 11971
Re: Loria Appeal No. 7498 MAY 2 3 2025
First Street,New Suffolk,NY ZONING BOARD OFAPPFA c3
Ladies, Gentlemen:
I am writing regarding concerns with respect to this application. I grew up in New
Suffolk and own a very small vacant lot on the water. I have known and done business
with Phil Loria for many years and it is with regret that I write this letter. However,
given the mass of the proposed house and the greatly reduced setbacks on this tiny low
lying,waterfront property,I think approval would set a very dangerous precedent which
would allow considerable development in the hamlet to occur, not only on the many very
undersized lots but on pre-existing improved parcels. The New Suffolk hamlet is
comprised primarily of small lots,vacant and improved, all of which would be able to be
built or renovated to very large dimension should this variance be approved.
It is not clear to me why Section 280-116B, requiring a 75 foot setback fiom the
bulkhead, does not apply. This would alter the nature of the application and the extent of
the variance dramatically. I believe that should be applied as part of your review.
Secondly,the 280-9 lot recognition provision requires that for a lot to be recognized, it
must be a)created before the applicable date, and b)meet the requirements of Bulk
Schedule AA of the Code. While it's creation under a) may be appropriate, Bulk
Schedule AA does not list lots in the MII zone. Therefore, it does not meet the
requirements of 280-9. To my knowledge, the exceptions of 280-10 do not apply.
Further, I note that the 5-8-2025 revised submission does not show the floor plan of
the lower level, which should be provided prior to your determination as to whether it is
to be considered a story.
Thank you for your consideration.
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Abigail A. Wickham
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From: Cheryl Victoria Bondarchuk <cherylvbondarchuk@g mail.6 {
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Sent: Friday, May 23, 2025 2:45 PM II''
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Subject: Loria, ZBA#7498, New Suffolk
Dear Ms. Fuentes &Respected Members:
It pains me to oppose the above noted application, but I must! No need to regurgitate the setback issue,
we all know they are woefully lacking the footage needed to legally build a house.This property is also
Lacking the setback footage needed to build in it's existing zoning of Marine II. It's simple, the way the
property is being currently utilized, passive boat storage, is appropriate for this neighborhood &is
absolutely the highest& best use of this parcel. The fact that many houses here have small setbacks is
irrelevant, they are pre-existing! This parcel has remained undeveloped for decades.
Why does it pain me to oppose this application? Mr. Loria is a lovely man. Mr. New Suffolk personified
since he owned Capt. Marty's for many years and lived on Grathwohl Road with a gorgeous view of the
creek across from his house. It's a shame he chose to purchase this lot on First Street with the full
knowledge that it is undersized for development.
The following exerpt is from an article back in 2014 regarding the nearby New Suffolk Waterfront parcel
that houses the Galley Ho. I think it speaks volumes:
{"Phil Loria, who last year sold Captain Marty's Fishing Station, which is next door to the Waterfront Fund
site, said he believes the newly installed bulkhead will worsen erosion at the fishing station and he's very
concerned about how the neighborhood will fare in future storms."
"The tide will be over the windows in Legends," he said. "What's going to happen on First Street?"}
We live in a world of, many times, overbearing property laws. Rules & regulations that force honest, tax
paying, property owners to jump through hoops just to legally use their property. Emphasis on "legally
use"... To usurp the REASONABLE regulations in place is to undermine the character of a community,
Likely ruining many things that draw people to this area in the first place.
The relief sought in this application is overreaching, unreasonable &detrimental to the community at
Large. Please deny& permanently dismiss this application.
Thank you for your consideration & have a safe Memorial Day weekend!!
Respectfully yours,
Cheryl Victoria Bondarchuk
1160 Second Street
New Suffolk
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5/23/2025
To Southold Town Zoning board
Regarding:
1090 First Street, New Suffolk, NY 11956
Phil Loria, case file #7498:
This is yet another hearing to determine whether a permit for a (larger than normal) house plan is
appropriate for the (less than quarter acre lot) which it will be situated upon.
This house could not be built as designed in the current code.
The application was applied for in 2020, therefore the old/prior building codes apply.
As you seclude yourself to determine your approval or denial of this appeal, there are two
important questions to consider from the citizens who live in and love Southold town and New
Suffolk.
What if anything has been changed by the applicant to make this proposal to build a 53 foot wide,
3 story home on a postage size lot (.14 acre) along the delicate waterfront in a hamlet known for its
small New England style cottage homes?
Is it proper to approve a huge home on a small lot which falls significantly short in meeting the
current guidelines established by Southold Town planners?
(street set back, rear yard set back, height of home compared to neighborhood)
Why?
Why should so many exceptions be made for one applicant when all citizens are expected to follow
the same rules?
There are several significant differences between what town code allows.
This application requests that those on the Board of Appeals turn a blind eye towards the
shortcomings of this application.
Curious about ....how the board could think that it's appropriate to
excuse a a street setback of 12.2 feet for this enormous home instead of the 35' required by code.
*Your approval will excuse 22 feet (62.3% larger)of street setback.
Yes, we are trying to save the beauty and uniqueness of our small communities which draw
generations of families to find a way to live here.
That beauty is what draws tourism to Southold to support our local businesses.
The facts:
This application requires 2 variances in order to be built.
My understanding is that the current application now before the Zoning Board is asking for
variance relief from the building code:
The building code requires a 35-foot STREET SETBACK, yet the proposed house is only 13.2 feet
from the street
The building code requires a 35-foot REAR YARD SETBACK, the house plan allows for only 32.9
feet. (nearly three feet less rear yard setback than code requirements.)
The HEIGHT of the proposed house is 33 feet 1-1/4 inches. The LENGTH of the proposed house is
53 feet.
*Although the house is considered 2 stories by the Town, it will be built on pilings and appear to be
3 stories, as the first floor pilings will be covered by siding.
Please consider the significant differences between what our Southold Town Building code permits
and what this application requests you overlook.
The house will alter the character and scale of the tiny New Suffolk hamlet.
The applicant is a very nice man.
Yes, of course he can build a home on this property if he chooses to do so.
Why can't the applicant submit a plan which meets the planning board requirements ?
When the percentage of relief requested is too large, it suggests that the design is not appropriate
for the lot.
Sincerely,
Patricia Pettit
PO Box 25 �Wy 2
New Suffolk, NY 11956
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tion for a three bedroom,31/2 bathroom portionate impact on those of us who
house on a tiny waterfront parcel(0.14 live,walk,drive and bike along First
acre)in the Hamlet of New Suffolk.From Street,one of our most scenic small
the street,which is proposed to be eight roads with priceless views of Peconic
feet from the entrance stoop,the house Bay.This is not what our building code
will appear to be three stories high,as it intended,not what the newly updated
will be built on pilings,with the pilings code intends,not the way our town has
obscured by siding. historically been developed.
Nothing much can be built on this property owners come and go but,
parcel without variances—the lot is just whatever the ZBA determines,the
too small.But the ZBA can grant variances community will be left to live with the
allowing the owner to build...something. decision,and the ramifications if this
1 The questions are:What?How big?And property owner is allowed to build
how tall?What level of relief will the there.
ZBA be comfortable granting?How will This appeal for multiple variances
it impact the character and scale of our has been under the jurisdiction of the
community?What precedent will this set ZBA since 2021.The complete file can
in New Suffolk and all the other hamlets be found on the town's website.
in Southold? Linda Auriemma,Gloria Baume,
o As residents of New Suffolk,we and Steve Katsoutas,Lynn&George Krug,
many others believe that granting vari- Barbara Schnitzler
ances for a 53-foot-long,33-foot-tall
,n home is not appropriate for the lot in
question.If built,it will have a dispro-
LETTERS I PAGE 32
May 23, 2025
From Members of the New Suffolk Community WQFAft-}
Re: Phil Loria,Appeal# 7498 II(AV 9 2- go4
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To the Zoning Board of Appeals LS
Leslie Kanes Weisman, Chairperson
Att: Kim Fuentes
54375 Main Road(Office)
P.O. Box 1179
Southold,NY 11971-0959
Delivered by hand
To the Zoning Board of Appeals, Town of Southold
We are neighbors of Philip Loria, also known as Captain Marry, and we've known him
throughout his 45 years in business as Captain Marty's Fishing Station on First Street in New
Suffolk. It was one of the few businesses in New Suffolk, an institution at the heart of our small
town's fishing culture. He hired the town's children and neighbors and when there was a
hurricane or nor'easter, or when someone needed a hand, Phil was there to help. He is the kind
of person who made New Suffolk a good place to live.
We are writing to express our support for his request for 2 variances to build his retirement home
at the property he has also owned for 45 years, 1090 First Street in New Suffolk.
Thank you.
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Re: Loria First Street Variances,Appeal#7498
To the ZBA,
I'm a long-time resident of New Suffolk and I'm writing to support Phil Loria's application
for variances to build a home on his First Street Property. I know he listened to the
concerns of the community and redesigned it to look like most of the other homes in New
Suffolk—modest and unassuming, and unlike most of the houses in New Suffolk, taking up
Less than half the length of his property and a fraction of the overall lot.
Sincerely,
Scott Brautigam
PO 274
New Suffolk
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May 23, 2025 MAY 2 3 2025
Re: First Street/Loris Variances ZONINGSOARDOFAPPFALS
To the ZBA:
Over many years, I lived, owned and developed many properties in New Suffolk, including
the Cottage Cove, and got to know Phil Loria well. I also have a Key West boat, docked-in
New Suffolk, which Phil has taken care of for many years.
He's always been a valued member of the New Suffolk community and now he wants to
build his retirement home on the lot he's owned for many years.
I hope the ZBA will grant the reasonable variances he's requested so he can do so.
Sincerely,
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Paul Cassiopo
May 21, 2025 �R7
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To the Zoning Board of Appeals,Town of Southold,
I've lived in New Suffolk since 1985 but spent time there since 1957. 1 remember when Phil
came home from Vietnam and bought the Fishing Station with his dad, in the early`70s.
New Suffolk was a fishing community filled with small cottages and scallop shacks all
along the waterfront on First Street, and a big 3 story building at the end of the street for all
the oysters.There were barns, boat buildings and boat storage, a huge railroad track into
the water, a market, and the Galley Ho bar. The view along First Street was always filled
with structures and always changing.
The people objecting to the small variances asked for by Phil make all sorts of claims about
the character and history of New Suffolk as grounds to deny the variances, but they're
wrong.
Every old house in New Suffolk, including mine, is built on what today would be a non-
conforming lot (there are no setbacks from the property line on the sides of my home).
Everyone who has to build or fix or change their home HAS to get a variance because it
would be non-conforming. It's an old town with old lots that don't conform. His lot is just
Like most properties in New Suffolk.
So I'll just finish up with my other reason that I believe the ZBA should grant the variances.
It has to do with the character of New Suffolk. It's not just about the houses or the lot sizes.
It's about the people. The answer was always YES when I asked to leave my boat to run up
to John's Market. It was Phil who hired people when they needed work, Phil who fixed a
motor or a lawn mower and refused to take a penny, Phil who helped people when there
was a hurricane. Now there are people who want to prevent him from building a modest
home so they can enjoy"their view." They don't know what character means. Phil does, he
always has.
Sincerely,
Mike Power
Po Box 323, New Suffolk
May 23, 2025
From Members of the New Suffolk Community MAY ` ,5
Re: Phil Loria,Appeal# 7498 ZONING BOARD 0FAPPFjL_9
To the Zoning Board of Appeals
Leslie Kanes Weisman, Chairperson
Att: Kim Fuentes
54375 Main Road (Office)
P.O. Box 1179
Southold,NY 11971-0959
Delivered by hand
To the Zoning Board of Appeals, Town of Southold
We are neighbors of Philip Loria, also known as Captain Marty, and we've known him
throughout his 45 years in business as Captain Marty's Fishing Station on First Street in New
Suffolk. It was one of the few businesses in New Suffolk, an institution at the heart of our small
town's fishing culture. He hired the town's children and neighbors and when there was a
hurricane or nor'easter, or when someone needed a hand, Phil was there to help. He is the kind
of person who made New Suffolk a good place to live.
We are writing to express our support for his request for 2 variances to build his retirement home
at the property he has also owned for 45 years, 1090 First Street in New Suffolk.
Thank you.
Signature f Syr ,MAY 9, 3 7025
Name: ZOi�WGBOARDOFxw��FALS
Address:
Fuentes, Kim
From: Jim Given <maridor26@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2025 11:50 AM
To: Fuentes, Kim
Subject: [SPAM] -ZBA Variance Request- Loria Project in New Suffolk
Good Morning Kim,
As a life long New Suffolk resident&property owner, I am writing to oppose the ZBA from granting the
variances requested by Phil Loria.
The project is not in keeping with the character of New Suffolk or continued beautification of the
Waterfront.
Regards,
Jim Given
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From: Holly Lyons <hollyblyons@gmail.com> 7''
Sent• Friday, May 23, 2025 11:11 AM
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Cc: Matt Lyons
Subject: 1090 1st St, New Suffolk, Zoning Dispute MAY 23
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Good morning.
We hope that this email finds you well. We are contesting the proposed Building Code variances
sought by Philip Loria for his property located at 1090 1st Street in New Suffolk.
We are respectfully asking the Zoning Board to enforce the setbacks specified in the Building Code. The
proposed house is too large for the lot and will be too close to the road. These factors are greatly
exacerbated by its substantial height.
Allowing such a structure to exist on a non-conforming lot will have a negative impact on the special
character of the neighborhood and the values of other nearby homes. It is also located on an
environmentally sensitive waterfront area, making Code enforcement even more important.
Thank you for your time.
Holly& Matt Lyons
1125 2nd Street, New Suffolk
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Re: Application #7498 by Philip Loria " Jr
Dear Board Members,
I am writing to request that you do not approve the variance request submitted by Mr.
Loria.
I've been a homeowner in New Suffolk since 1999. I've walked or biked by this lot easily
hundreds of times, as most New Suffolk residents probably have.
There is no justification for allowing such an extreme variance from the town's code.
The code requires a front setback of 35'. Mr. Loria wants 13'? OK, then downsize the
house proportionally. There's no rationale that I can see why the house needs to be the
size it's designed as. New Suffolk has plenty of lovely small houses on small lots.
A 53' long, essentially three story tall house only 13' from the street will make a deeply
negative impact on the streetscape. The first 'story' is a windowless wall. The very
narrow setback will not allow much, if any, landscaping that might soften the impact of
the structure to passersby.
While writing this letter I came across this quote from the American Planning
Association:
"Setbacks are more than zoning numbers —they are the breathing room of a
neighborhood."
I think we all love the East End precisely for its 'breathing room', its innate beauty, and
its community feeling. Allowing this project to proceed as is would be contrary to what I
believe the zoning code, old or new, intends to accomplish. Given the many letters I've
seen submitted to the board, and published in the newspaper, this house is not what the
community wants or deserves.
Thank you very much for your time and your consideration of our input on this matter.
Clayton Gates
Jackson St., New Suffolk
NEW SUFFOLK WATERFRONT FUND
Revitalizing Our Historic Waterfront
MAY 2 3 2025
Zoning Board of Appeals GB9ARa®FAPPEA1—
Southold Town Hall Annex 01 }�
54378 Main Road
Southold, NY 11971
May 22, 2025
To the Southold Zoning Board of Appeals:
I am writing on behalf of the New Suffolk Waterfront Fund to comment on the proposal set forth by
Phil Loria to build a three story house on First Street in New Suffolk. (Application#7498)
As a 5010 founded in 2005 by a dedicated group of New Suffolk residents our mission statement is
as follows:
To preserve and protect New Suffolk's unique and historic waterfront in ways that respect the
property's scenic beauty and maritime heritage;to support recreational, educational, and
commercial life and are environmentally sustainable for the uplands and the bay;and to assure
public access opportunities now and for future generations.
In keeping with our mission, we strongly object to this proposal. This project violates our core
principles in multiple ways. It does not respect the property's scenic beauty and its maritime
heritage.The scale and scope of the structure will block views of the water for everyone who walks
on First Street. And it in no way serves the community we are committed to preserving and
protecting for now and for future generations.
It is our hope that the interests of all of Southold Town's residents are taken into consideration
1 when reviewing this proposal. It will negatively impact so many in this unique community.
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Sincerely,
The Board of Trustees of The New Suffolk Waterfront Fund
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P.O. BOX 146, NEW SUFFOLK, NY 11956 WWW.NEWSUFFOLKWATERFRONT.ORG
Fuentes, Kim
From: Daniel McLaughlin <daniel7.mcl@gmail.com> G:tiaw?��
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2025 3:34 PM
To: Fuentes, Kim
Subject: 1090 First Street, New Suffolk- Comment MAC 2 3 Zd25
Hi Kim,
This location will be better served for the expansion of the growing
oyster farming and developing scallop farming industries in New
Suffolk.
It is recommended the property be kept in reserve for eventual
commercial purposes more suited to its unique location and New
Suffolk's established heritage.
While a residence may be built on almost any lot, a commercial
marine business has dramatically limited build access.
Please give this location every alternative marine consideration and
keep this property in reserve for commercial fishing use.
Thank you,
Sincerely,
Daniel P. McLaughlin
1270 Th i rd Street
New Suffolk, NY 11956
(516) 368-5923
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From: Linda Auriemma <Iinda.auriemma@gmai1.com> ECOIED
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2025 5:04 PM
To: Fuentes, Kim
Subject: LORIA#7498 MAY 2 3 2025
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Dear Members of the Zoning Board of Appeals, -r/. -/I/
Mr. Loria's most recent submission of 5/14/25 is just more of the same - a house that is too high, too big,
too close to the Bay and way too close to the street, on a tiny(minuscule) lot that has no business ever
having a 3 bedroom, 3 1/2 bathroom house, with a recreation room on it.
The two latest plan "revisions" -a less expansive rear deck and the removal of an awning over a smaller
front stoop- are totally meaningless and do absolutely nothing to make this house more palatable. No
one cares about seeing a shorter deck on the back of the house. No one will ever see it! And removing an
overhead awning to allow for more of a setback from the street is a joke.The front setback from the street
is only still 13.2 ft. when 35 ft is required. Mr. Loria is thereby asking you to grant him relief of 62.3%!That
is beyond the realm of reasonableness. And contrary to Ms. Hoeg's letter of 5/14/25, these latest
revisions did NOT eliminate any variance from the front yard setback.
Under the present building codes,which were created to stop mistakes such as this, this house wouldn't
stand a chance of ever being built.The sky plane test alone would make it a non-starter. In addition,
allowing this application, that was originally filed back in 2020, over 4 1/2 years ago, to still be judged
under old, obsolete building codes certainly seems overly generous. Are there no limits to how long a
person can prolong a building/ZBA application? Is there ever a statute of limitation or can it be dragged
out to infinity?
Four years ago, New Suffolk residents quickly collected over 140 signatures in opposition to this project.
Many other people sent individual letters to the ZBA as well. Nothing significant has changed by Mr.
Loria's alterations.This house will still be in everybody's faces as we walk, bike and drive along First
Street. If built, it will cause a very undesirable change in the character of the neighborhood, as well as
create a detriment to nearby both properties and the heart of downtown New Suffolk. It does not belong
here.
There is an old saying that is most applicable to the Loria house: If it looks like a duck&quacks like a
duck, it IS a duck. From the outside, everyone will see a 3 story house. It will function and block views
just like a 3 story house. Label it any way you want but to the eye it IS a three story house.
By Code,this house is not buildable on this lot. Front & rear setbacks are required to be 35 ft each -for a
total of 70 ft.The entire property is only 60-65 ft deep!Therefore, as of right, no house, no matter how
small, is buildable on this property.
On three occasions, and as recently as March 27, 2025, Mark Terry, Local Waterfront Revitalization
Program Coordinator, advised that this project is inconsistent with LWRP stating as follows:
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"Structure within this area should be avoided or minimized due to repetitive loss from storm damage,
including hurricanes.
Groundwater elevation is expected to rise over time in this structure hazard area."
We would be much happier if this property was somehow preserved as open space or acquired & put to
good use by an oyster farmer or bayman/baywoman. We already have two - Peeko Oysters & Hamptons
Oysters right next door to the Loria lot.You may have heard that Suffolk County is trying to put together a
"Working Waterfront" initiative to help oyster farmers financially to purchase waterfront parcels for their
businesses.This is still in the planning stages at Legislator Catherine Clark's office right now but they are
hopeful to get something up and running after the summer. Mr. Loria's property would be a good fit
should again decide to want to sell it. (it was on the market for 6 months in 2020, until 1/24/21 but it did
not sell.)
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Please acknowledge receipt.
Linda &PaulAuriemma
460 Fred St.
New Suffolk NY
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Re: Application #7498 by Philip Loria
Dear Members of the Southold Town Zoning Board,
I am writing to urge you not to approve the setback variance for the above referenced
property. The character and charm of the New Suffolk historic waterfront makes our
hamlet special, and is one of the reasons that property values here are often higher
than comparable lots elsewhere on the North Fork.
Contrary to what is claimed in the request for variance, this house will produce an
n itblechanae to the characteri r nearby
properties. Quite simply, it's too big, too close. Per the mathematics of visual
perspective, a 33-foot tall house at a distance of 13 feet, is visually equivalent to an
89-foot house at a distance of 35 feet! If you wouldn't approve an 89-foot tall house,
then you should not approve this house so close to the road.
The application references two neighboring houses (1200 First Street and 1230 First
Street) that are also closer to the street than 35 feet.
a. In the case of 1200 First Street, that property is widely considered a blight on the
street, and is a perfect example of when variances should not be granted. Not
only is this house visually problematic, but the mechanical systems can be heard
from the street day and night. This will only get worse if a similar building is built
next door. Additionally, Mr. Loria's proposed house will be more than twice as
wide as 1200 First Street, blocking light and airflow.
b. In the case of 1230 First Street, this is a one-story, ground-level cottage that the
current owners seem to have restored exactly as it was. If Mr. Loria would like to
build something on his undersized lot, a house like 1230 First Street would be
much more in character and would probably not provoke the ire of local
residents.
The difficulty is 100% self-created. Mr. Loria owns other properties on the North Fork
and has owned other properties in New Suffolk— properties which would support the
type of house he wishes to build. There is no reason for him to build a too-large house
on this undersized lot, except to turn a profit from degrading our neighborhood. In
promoting his case, Mr. Loria, 78, has stated that he wishes to live in the house. It's
hard to believe that even the most optimistic septuagenarian would design a house
where all rooms require navigating a staircase. Indeed, when he first designed the
house in 2020, he did so as part of a marketing package to sell the property.
Instead of open pilings, Mr. Loria has designed this house with "break-away" siding
covering all of the walls around the ground floor of the house. In the event the
"break-away" is triggered, more than 1,000 square feet of this siding could be flying or
floating around the neighborhood and in the bay, close to cars driving down the street,
and almost certainly washing into the bay where residents swim and boat. Appropriate
setbacks would mitigate this potential safety issue.
I urge you to enforce the building codes as written and not to grant this variance.
Most sincerely,
Jennifer Jacobs
645 Jackson Street
New Suffolk, NY
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Fuentes, Kim
From: Ikghomeoffice@optonIine.net
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2025 5:54 PM
To: Fuentes, Kim
Subject: Fwd: New house to be built at 1090 First Street, NEW SUFFOLK NY
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From: Ikghomeoffice@optonline.net
To: kim.fuentes@town.southold.ny.us
Sent:Thursday, May 22nd 2025, 05:45 PM
Subject: New house to be built at 1090 First Street, NEW SUFFOLK NY
To the members of The Southold Town Zoning Board of Appeals:
I am writing you to ask that you do NOT approved the building of a new home a
1090 First Street in New Suffolk, NY.
The house being considered for construction has long been an issue for the
residents of New Suffolk simply because there are so many things wrong with it
that it doesn't make sense to allow the construction. The fact that the ZBA would
have to agree to the following:
1. A Street Setback that is not in line with the town code
2. A rear yard setback that is not in line with the town code
3. A building height and length that are not in line with the town code
4. A structure that will be built on pilings thereby making it an illegal 3-story even
though the plans show it as a two story building
5. A structure that could not be built as designed in the current town code.The
fact that the application was applied for in 2020 means that th old/prior
building codes apply.
In summation, I will say that the whole design of the building is one huge eyesore and
not a structure that follows the traditional designs of homes built in New Suffolk.
We already have an eyesore of building on Grathwohl Road that is a constant reminder
of how going around the rules and regulations of the Southold Town Building Codes
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creates major problems for residents.. I implore you, please don't allow another
house to be built that would totally destroy the New Suffolk waterfront people
throughout the Town of Southold have come to love.
Many thanks for.your attention in this matter.
Lauren K. Grant,
Resident of New Suffolk for 30 years
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Fuentes, Kim
From: cgdinda@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2025 10:03 PM
To: Fuentes, Kim V*,.-
Subject: Fw: Southold Town Variance request#7498
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From: cgdinda@aol.com <cgdinda@aol.com>
To: kim.fuentes@southold.ny.us <kim.fuentes@southold.ny.us>
Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2025 at 12:09:24 PM PDT
Subject: Southold Town Variance request#7498
Zoning Board Members,
Having been a relatively recent resident of New Suffolk (2003), the beauty of our hamlet never
ceases to amaze me. From daily morning walks, to observing magnificent sunsets, each moment
has become a beautiful memory.
However, once again, the proposed request for variance #7498 at 1090 1 st. Street is extremely
disappointing to see.
Both lot size and property line setback requirements appear to be almost nonexistent with the
planned project. Granted, the height limitations are within inches of the defined code.
The proximity of a septic system, to our already jeopardized natural waters, becomes another high
level of concern.
Save What's Left has became a phrase often heard throughout our community.
Hopefully, a great deal of thoughtful responsibility will be undertaken by the zoning board members
regarding the above mentioned variance.
Thank you for your efforts,
Carol G. Dinda
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Fuentes, Kim
From: Margaret Brown <maritbrown@optonline.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2025 10:23 PM
To: Fuentes, Kim
Subject: Comment on the Phil Loria Property in New Suffolk � �
May 22,2025
To the Zoning Board of Appeals-
I am a resident of New Suffolk and I am deeply concerned about the proposed construction of a large private residence in the heart of New
Suffolk on a tiny parcel of land on New Suffolk's waterfront.This building would change the character of New Suffolk forever, removing the view
of the Peconic Bay,removing any possible maritime use of the space, and setting a precedent for over-sized buildings on extravagantly
undersized lots. it seems like the need for substantial variances on small lots makes clear that this project would be inappropriate for this
location. I beg you not to grant the variances that would enable this proposal to move forward.
Sincerely,
Margaret H. Brown
New Suffolk
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Barbara Schnitzler <barbara.schnitzer@ mail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2025 11:05 PM
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Subject: Variance Request 7498. 1090 First St New Suffolk
"I find this project is too big and too risky for little and beloved New Suffolk wrote Phil Loria in
2014, about the renovation of the Galley Ho site, also on First Street (an historic building on 3
1/2 acres, 5% lot coverage, no setback variances required, with open space/ public access/
scenic view easements in place).
Without a variance from the ZBA, nothing can be built at 1090 First St. Some might say that's
the appropriate course of action - build nothing new and continue the allowable M2 uses that
have existed there for years. Others might say that the property owner should be able to build
a 3 bedroom, 3 1/2 bath home on whatever size property he owns. The ZBA has to decide how
much variance relief is the right amount of variance relief.
Mr Loria is requesting substantial front yard setback relief (62%). Nearness to the street also
intensifies the impact of the building's 34 ft height. And while the ZBA is being asked to
consider a 2 story home on pilings, the public is looking at a 3 story building. We don't have to
imagine what its bulk will feel like, we have one too big building dominating the north end of
First street already.
The Code has become stricter since Mr Loria's application was first filed, reflecting Southold's
growing concerns with over development. This is especially true in New Suffolk, where the
community has raised millions of dollars and spent almost 20 years protecting our views and
waterfront from development.
The findings you make will set a precedent, they will affect the character and scale of the
community long after this property owner has moved on.
One could think it's just one building, and owners have the right to do what they want with the
things they own. But I would maintain that there is a cumulative cost to a community watching
the visual history of a place they live in and love, transformed piece by piece, until it is no
longer recognizable.
Barbara Schnitzler
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From: Gabriel Phillips <gabrielphillips@gmail.com> '�
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2025 3:13 PM
To: Fuentes, Kim
Subject: [SPAM] - RE: LORIA APPLICATION #7498 BEFORE THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
I own two homes in New Suffolk, both of which have views of the water directly across the street from the
subject property.These views will be forever negatively impacted by the height of the proposed home to
be built as requested. The block the subject property is on has only 1 other house of significant height,
which is an eye-sore in the community and out of character for New Suffolk at large and is next door to
the subject property. I am writing to request that you not permit a home over a single story to be built on
this property. The height will impact many whom call New Suffolk home and to those whom visit our
wonderful community throughout the year to enjoy views of the waterfront and access to it directly and
visually. A house that is two stories built on top of pilings will be effectively a 3 story structure in a
community of 1 and 2 story structures, mostly beach cottages or similar, that would negatively change
the character of the community forever as well as set an unfortunate precedent for future requests to
deviate from current zoning laws. Please reject this application.
Respectfully,
Gabe Phillips
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