HomeMy WebLinkAboutTB-10/19/2004SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
October 19, 2004
4:30 P.M.
A Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board was held Tuesday, October 19, 2004 at the
Southold Town Hall, Southold, New York. Supervisor Horton opened the meeting at 4:30 P.M. with
the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
Present: Supervisor Joshua Y. Horton
Justice Louisa P. Evans
Councilman Thomas H. Wickham
Councilman Daniel C. Ross
Councilman William P. Edwards
Town Clerk Elizabeth A. Neville
Town Attorney Patricia A. Finnegan
Absent: Councilman John M. Romanelli
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Good afternoon and welcome to the October 19 public meeting of the
Southold Town Board. Please rise and join with me in the Pledge of Allegiance. We have reports,
public notices, communications and other town related documents, all available for review by the
public at the Town Clerk's Office, which is located in this building, open Monday through Friday, 8:00
A.M. through 4:00 P.M. We encourage public participation at the meeting and there will be a number
of points over the course of the meeting when the public will be afforded the opportunity to address the
Board. First being prior to the voting of any of the resolutions that we have on our agenda this
evening, we will afford the public the opportunity to address a specific resolution. We also have two
public hearings this evening, at which point when we recess into public hearings, we will ask the
public to address the Board on items specific to that public hearing. And at the conclusion of the
meeting, we offer the public the opportunity to address the Board on other town related items that they
feel are important. Before we get moving too much further into the meeting, ! have a couple of
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exciting announcements to make. First, I would like Mr. Tom McCaffrey to come forward and stand
with me in front of the dais. One thing that is very important to Southold Town government as we
relate to the County and State, Federal government is communication and interaction with those entire
levels of government. (Inaudible) being out here on the east end, where we are more or less removed
from the center, if you will, of the County government, State government and obviously the Federal
government. We have afforded to us through the processes that Suffolk County has put in place a
number of years ago, representation in regard to how Suffolk County manages public parks and
recreation programs. And part of that management policy, the County asks each Supervisor of each
Town to recommend a person from their specific township for appointment to the County Board of
Trustees of the Parks. And County Executive Levy asked for my recommendation, I am very proud
and pleased to announce that my recommendation was Tom McCaffery, who is a resident of Mattituck,
a member of the Mattituck Park District as well as a Recreation and Parks supervisor for the Town of
Smithtown. What Tom brings to the position is not only an in-depth knowledge of management of
recreation facilities and the parks facilities and how to efficiently run them, he also has an in-depth
knowledge of how the County should and could relate to some of their open space and parkland that
they have in Southold Town. It is really important, it is tremendously important that we have firm
representation at the County level from Southold Town. So I was honored to ask the County Executive
and the County legislature to approve Mr. McCaffery's appointment and just recently they did and I
just want to have him here and say, welcome aboard. And you should know that this is a tremendous
time commitment and it is also a lot for the great wage of nothing. It is one of those wonderful
volunteer positions. So, Tom, you volunteer your time in the community on many levels so we thank
you for that once again. Congratulations. I would also ask Officer Brewer and Officer Hudoc to come
forward. I have some sort of sad news and some good news, I should say the whole product of this
announcement is bittersweet. Detective Beth Dzenkowski has been with the Southold Town Police
Department for some time and she has paved the way for an effective DARE program, she has paved
the way for an effective Juvenile Aid Bureau at the Southold Town Police Department and Detective
Dzenkowski has made notice to the Town that she plans to retire in the early part of 2005. That leaves
the Department and the Town, if you will, with an enormous gap to fill and that gap is again, the work
environment and the expectations that Detective Dzenkowski has created in regard to how Southold
Town police interact, educate and deal with the youth of our community. So we set out to fill that
position and over the course of the interviews and discussions with the Chief, with Detective
Dzenkowski, with the head of our school districts; I thought long and hard and I realized that Southold
Town could be doing a lot more. We could be doing a lot more and we should be doing a lot more
because of as these two gentlemen actually articulated in their interviews, probably the single, largest
challenge and possibly one of the most important arms, if you will, or responsibilities of the Police
Department today is providing that support structure and education and the type of interaction the
youth of the community should expect, the parents of the community should expect from our Police
Department in raising awareness for the challenges kids today face or raising awareness of temptations
that they will probably confront as they move out of adolescence towards adulthood and I think that
there is no better way to promote prevention and promote awareness than through a healthy, positive
working relationship grounded in education from our Police Department with the schools in our
community. Now, with that being said, the approach we are taking is a multi-pronged approach. The
part of the two officers that are, to run the Juvenile Aid Bureau, which encompasses the DARE
program. With that being said, as we said before, this is much more than just about implementing and
effecting the DARE program, this is about having the resources in the Police Department to actually
interact with the youth in the community on a daily basis outside of the school and outside of the
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Police Department, for the Juvenile Aid Officers to work with families of youth that may need some
guidance. We can be there for the early stages of possibly developing problems. We can head them
off at the pass. And I think that is the direction we have to be moving in regard to the role of the
Police Department and our responsibility to the community. I am very pleased and very proud to
announce two officers that will be dedicated to that office, starting in '05. We will phase it in when,
we will phase in the two officer routine when we have officers coming on line out of the academy and
taking over the patrol positions that also are a very important need to be filled. So, gentlemen, I
wanted to congratulate you on your endeavors. We have (inaudible) that you are going to do the job
that we expect you to do. Congratulations. One question that was asked when this decision was made
and it is an important question and I think one that has to be addressed head on and that is, well, how
does that effect the staffing of the patrol unit? And the answer is, it enhances the ability of the patrol
unit because one commitment that we made is a better utilization of our detective squad to implement
with patrol and the detectives and now with the JAB, what we refer to as a COPE unit. Which is a
community oriented patrol program. And the JAB will more or less be the anchor of that. So, when
the question is asked how does this effect the staffing levels or the street patrol, it enhances it and I
think that we have, we should set the bar high, we should have high expectations and I have every
reason to believe that the two of you will carry out that important mission. So congratulations and
thanks for coming here today. Do not feel obligated to stay for the rest of the evening but you are
more than welcome to.
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the following Town bills be and hereby are ordered paid: General Fund Whole Town
bills in the amount of $517,328.98; General Fund Part Town bills in the amount of $23,947.82; Risk
Retention Fund bills in the amount of $781.54; Highway Fund Part Town bills in the amount of
$112,977.74; Capital Projects Account $247,981.53; Community Preservation Fund (2% Tax)
2,800.00; New London Terminal Project bills in the amount of $505,639.62; Employee Health Benefit
Plan bills in the amount of $9,127.92; Fishers Island Ferry District bills in the amount of $17,156.00;
Refuse & Garbage District bills in the amount of $105,442.29; Southold Wastewater District bills in
the amount of $15, 647.73; Fishers Island Sewer District bills in the amount of $692. 64; Southold
Agency & Trust bills in the amount of $4,054.13 and Fishers Island Ferry District Agency & Trust
bills in the amount of $530.66.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the Regular Southold Town Board meeting of October 5, 2004 be and
hereby are ordered approved.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board set a Town Board Work Session on October 26,
2:00 P.M.
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Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the next Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board be held Thursday, November
4, 2004 at the Southold Town Hall, Southold, New York at 7:00 P.M.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board will hold Budget Hearings on Thursday, November 4,
2004 at 4:00 P.M. and 7:30 P.M.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
I. REPORTS 1. Recreation Department - September 2004
2. Program for the Disabled - September 2004
3. Southold Town Justice Court, Price - September 2004
4. Southold Town Justice Court, Evans - September 2004
5. Southold Town Justice Court, Bruer - September 2004
II.
PUBLIC NOTICES
1. Southold Town Board of Trustees notice of opening dates of scallop season: October 18, 2004
from sunrise to sunset through November 1, 2004, all gear permitted. All scalloping harvesting
to close as of sunset November 1, 2004.
2. Southold Town Highway Department, Public Notice of 2004 Fall Leaf and Brush Cleanup.
III. COMMUNICATIONS
None
SUPERVISOR HORTON: At this point we offer the floor to anybody from the floor to anybody from
the public that would care to address the Board on specific resolutions. Yes, Mr. Carlin.
FRANK CARL1N: Good evening.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: Good evening.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Good evening, Mr. Carlin.
MR. CARL1N: I see Mrs. Egan isn't here, so I had a couple anyway. #760. Is that for a bond?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Yes, that is correct.
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MR. CARL1N: How much?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: The bond?
MR. CARL1N: Yeah.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: ! believe
reimbursable by the State of New York.
MR. CARLIN: 3.5?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: 3.1, 3.125. 3.25, excuse me.
MR. CARL1N: How much by New York? Reimbursable?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: 50 percent.
what we are publishing is $3.125 million. 50 percent
MR. CARL1N: In other words, you get back 50 percent of that, right?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: That is correct.
MR. CARL1N: #772. Is this going to increase fees? Is that what you are talking about here?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: That is correct. Commencing for '05 permits. It is actually equalizing
fees. What it is doing is eliminating the commercial fee and implementing one standard fee.
MR. CARL1N: But, ! mean, fees to the landfill, you are going to increase fees to the landfill?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: That is correct.
MR. CARL1N: You are going to increase fees to the landfill?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: There is an increase with that but it is also an equalization, which is an
elimination of the commercial fee.
MR. CARL1N: How much are you going to increase the landfill permit?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: ! believe it goes from $10 to $15 for an annual permit.
MR. CARL1N: Hard times and all this money is going up and we have such hard times to live in this
day and age.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: And the cost of getting rid of garbage is going up exponentially.
MR. CARL1N: ! know but .....
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SUPERVISOR HORTON: So if we all do our part and generate less garbage.
MR. CARL1N: We always seem to have a way out. I will be talking about that a little later on in a
greater amount of time tonight. ! am not using my black book tonight, ! am going to speak from my
mind later on. You know, ! believe years back, when we had the landfill, when you go to pay your
taxes, you would get a, ! know you would get a beach permit for nothing and you probably got your
landfill permit for nothing. That was years ago but ! guess things change.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: That was when you were allowed to just randomly dump trash into a pit in
Southold Town, which New York State has outlawed.
MR. CARL1N: Well, that is one of the things I am going to be addressing you on again this year, on
the budget meeting about the landfill.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Okay. You have seen the tax rate reduction in the budget this year ....
MR. CARL1N: We would have been eliminating all this here extra money, if that would have been
closed down back in 1990 and ! am still going to stress that a year after. ! haven't changed my mind
on it.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Right.
MR. CARL1N: It is just sucking up a lot of our taxpayers money down there. And I don't think we
are showing any profit on it. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Thank you. Keep it in mind, if we show profit, that is at the expense of the
taxpayer. So what we try to do is ensure that the operation is being run to not show a profit because
showing profit in a municipal business is actually getting more from the taxpayer. So we believe that
the operation should be run so it is essentially a wash.
MR. CARL1N: What good is it then?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: You have to get rid of your trash in some way, shape or form.
MR. CARL1N: I am trying to run a business, like John Romanelli was trying to run his business
without showing a profit, how long would he stay in the business? Not very long
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Just understand that generating a profit as a government is done through
taxes, generally. Offees.
MR. CARL1N: You are throwing $3.25 million like it is going out of style.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Well, we will see.
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MR. CARL1N: With the cost of living nowadays and inflation.
later on.
Well, ! am going to talk about that
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Okay, Mr. Carlin, thanks. Would anybody else care to address the Board
on specific resolutions? (No response) We will move ahead with the resolutions then.
#746
Moved by Councilman Edwards, seconded by Councilman Ross,
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Southold has proposed to improve the Solid Waste
facility located in Cutchogue by construction of a 19,220 SF Town commercial and residential
recycling and collection facility, including redirection of traffic flow utilizing a new entrance and exit;
and
WHEREAS, the Town Board has proposed to undertake the action itself and is therefore assuming
lead agency status; and
WHEREAS the proposed project is a Type ! action pursuant to SEQRA; and
WHEREAS a Full Environmental Assessment Form (Parts 1, 2 and 3) dated June 2003 has been
prepared and reviewed; and it is hereby
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold determines that the proposed action will
not result in a significant effect on the environment as evidenced in the contents of the Long EAF
prepared for the Town Board by Nelson, Pope & Voorhis dated June 2003; and it is further
RESOLVED that the Town Board adopts a Negative Declaration pursuant to SEQRA~ as more
fully set forth in the Negative Declaration form dated October 4~ 2004 attached hereto.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#747
Moved by Councilman Ross, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the General Fund
Whole Town 2004 budget as follows:
TO:
A. 8090.4.200.100
A. 8090.4.400.600
A. 8090.4.500.600
FROM:
A. 8090.2.500.100
A. 8090.2.500.100
A. 8090.1.100.200
Cellular Phone Service
Equipment/Maintenance/Repairs
Court Reporters
Transcribing Equipment
Transcribing Equipment
Overtime Earnings
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
$350.00
$20.00
$2,800.00
$350.00
$20.00
$2,800.00
Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
#748
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the Town Clerk to
advertise for bids for the following items for 2005:
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Milk for the Human Resource Center
Purchase of Police Department Uniform Clothing
Cleaning of Police Department Uniform Clothing
Gasoline for Town Vehicles
Heating Fuel Oil for Town Buildings
Diesel Fuel Oil for Highway Department and Transfer Station
Bulk Ice Control Rock Salt for the Highway Department
Bulk Ice Control Sand for the Highway Department
Removal and Transfer of Scavenger Waste
Removal of Household Hazardous Waste from the Transfer Station
Removal of Scrap Tires from the Transfer Station
Town Brown Leaf Bags
Town Yellow Garbage Bags
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#749
Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Justice Evans,
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Southold wishes to purchase a development rights
easement on a certain parcel of property owned by Edward C. Booth, et al., pursuant to the provisions
of Chapter 6 and Chapter 25 of the Code of the Town of Southold. Said property is identified as SCTM
#1000-51-2-7 and #1000-51-2-8. The street addresses are 17580 and 17240 Sound View Avenue,
respectively, and the property is located on the south side of Sound View Avenue, the west side of Mt.
Beulah Avenue and the north side of Old North Road, in Southold in an A-C zoning district. The
development rights easement comprises approximately 21.8647 acres of the 28.3647 acre parcels. The
exact area of the development rights easement is subject to survey. The purchase price for the easement
is $37,000 (thirty-seven thousand dollars) per buildable acre; now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold that this action be classified as an Unlisted
Action pursuant to the SEQRA Rules and Regulations, 6NYCRR 617.1 et. Seq.; be it further
RESOLVED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold that the Town of Southold is the only
involved agency pursuant to SEQRA Rules and Regulations; be it further
RESOLVED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold that the Short Environmental Form
prepared for this project is accepted and attached hereto; and, be it further
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby finds no significant impact on
the environment and declares a negative declaration pursuant to SEQRA Rules and Regulations
for this action.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#75O
Moved by Councilman Edwards, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission for the
Southold PTA to use the following roads on Sunday~ October 31~ 2004 at approximately 2:00
P.M. for the Halloween Parade: Main Road, and Oaklawn Avenue provided they file with the Town
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Clerk a One Million Dollar Certificate of Insurance naming the Town Southold as an additional
insured and notify Capt. Flatley ten (t0) days prior to the event to coordinate traffic.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#751
Moved by Councilman Ross, seconded by Councilman Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the General Fund
Whole Town 2004 budget as follows:
To:
A. 1620.4.500.400
From:
A. 1620.4.400.100
Buildings & Grounds
Architects
Vote of the Town Board:
$1,200.00
Buildings & Grounds
Building Maintenance/Repairs $1,200.00
Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#752
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs the Town
Clerk to advertise for bids for the delivery~ installatiom training and technical support for a new
server~ along with existing H T E data migration to new server at the Southold Town Police
Department Headquarters.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#753
Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission for the
Cutcho~ue Fire Department to use the following roads on Sunday~ October 31~ 2004 at
approximately 6:00 P.M. for the Halloween Parade: Depot Lane, Main Road, and New Suffolk
Avenue provided they file with the Town Clerk a One Million Dollar Certificate of Insurance naming
the Town Southold as an additional insured and notify Capt. Flatley ten (t0) days prior to the event to
coordinate traffic.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#754
Moved by Councilman Edwards, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to Assessor
Darline J. Duffy to attend a seminar on Hotel Valuation on November t 5, 2004 at the Holiday Inn,
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Fishkill, New York. Travel, meals, registration and lodging expenses to be a legal charge to the
Assessors 2004 budget.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#755
Moved by Councilman Ross, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the General Fund
Whole Town 2004 budget as follows:
From:
Appropriations:
A.6772.4.600.200
From:
Appropriations:
A.6772.4.600.700
From:
Appropriations:
A.6772.4.600.500
To
Appropriations:
A.6772.4.100.110
Programs for the Aging
Miscellaneous
Senior Trips and Excursions
Programs for the Aging
Miscellaneous
License and Permits
Programs for the Aging
Miscellaneous
Seminars and Training
Programs for the Aging
Contractual Expense
Program Supplies & Materials
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
$ 300.00
$ 325.00
$ 330.00
$ 955.00
Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
#756
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Wickham,
A regular meeting of the Town Board of the Town
of Southold, in the County of Suffolk, New York,
held at the Town Hall, 53095 Main Road,
Southold, in said Town, on the 19th of October,
2004.
PRESENT:
Hon. Joshua Y. Horton, Supervisor
Louisa P. Evans, Justice
John M Romanelli, Councilperson
Thomas H. Wickham, Councilperson
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William P. Edwards, Councilperson
Daniel C. Ross, Councilperson
In the Matter
of the
Increase and Improvement of Facilities of
the Southold Solid Waste Management
District, in the Town of Southold, in the
County of Suffolk, New York pursuant to
Section 202-b of the Town Law.
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ORDER CALLING PUBLIC
HEAR1NG TO BE HELD ON
NOVEMBER 15, 2004
RECITALS
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Southold (herein called "Town Board"
and "Town", respectively), in the County of Suffolk, New York, on behalf of the Southold Solid Waste
Management District, heretofore established and now existing in the Town (herein called "District"),
has heretofore determined that it is in the best interests of the Town and the District to expand the
existing Transfer Station (hereinafter sometimes called the "Station") within the District by
constructing, inter alia, an information booth, an addition to the Station and the Re-Use Center, as well
as reconstruction of the existing Scale House and completion of construction of the Truck Loading Pit,
including the acquisition and installation of the requisite original furnishings, equipment, machinery
and apparatus and site work, including, but not limited to, storm water drainage, a new 1,000 gallon
above ground waste oil tank, paving of roads, fencing, landscaping and grading and improving the site
(hereinafter sometimes called the "Project"). The estimated maximum cost of the Project is
$3,250,000, including preliminary costs incidental thereto and to the financing thereof in the amount of
$50,000; and
WHEREAS, grant funds may be received from the United States of America, the State
of New York and any other available sources to pay a part of some of such costs, and any such grant
funds received or to be received shall be applied towards the cost of said object or purpose or
redemption of the bonds issued therefor, or shall be budgeted as an offset to the taxes for the payment
of the principal and interest on said bonds; and
WHEREAS, the Town Board and the Town have complied in every respect with all
applicable Federal, State and local laws and regulations regarding environmental matters, have given
due consideration to the impact that the Project may have upon the environment and, on the basis of
such consideration, the Town Board, acting as Lead Agency, pursuant to the New York State
Environmental Quality Review Act (hereinafter sometimes called "SEQRA") has heretofore found and
determined that the Project is a Type ! Action and that no significant adverse environmental impact
will be caused thereby and in connection therewith, the duly processed Negative Declaration and/or
other applicable documentation has been issued and filed in the office of the Town Clerk;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT
ORDERED, that a meeting of the Town Board of the Town be held at the Town Hall,
53095 Main Road, Southold, New York, in the Town, on the 15th day of November, 2004, at 7:00
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o'clock P.M. (Prevailing Time), to consider the Project at the estimated maximum cost of $3,250,000
and to hear all persons interested in the subject thereof concerning the same and for such other action
on the part of the Town Board with relation thereto as may be required by law; and be it
FURTHER ORDERED, that the Town Clerk (i) publish at least once in the "SUFFOLK
TIMES," a newspaper published in Mattituck, in the Town of Southold and hereby designated as the
official newspaper of the Town for such publication, (ii) post on the Town Clerk Bulletin board of the
Town maintained pursuant to subdivision 6 of Section 30 of the Town Law and (iii) mail by first class
mail to each owner of taxable real property in the District, a notice of such public hearing in
substantially the form attached hereto designated Exhibit "A" and hereby made a part hereof, the first
publication thereof, said posting and said mailing to be not less than ten (10) nor more than twenty (20)
days before the date of such public hearing.
EXHIBIT A
LEGAL NOTICE
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
November 15, 2004
WHEREAS, it has been determined by the Town Board (the "Board") of the Town of
Southold ("Town"), Suffolk County, New York, on the 19th day of October, 2004, to consider the
increase and improvement of the facilities of the Southold Solid Waste Management District
("District"), by the expansion of the existing Transfer Station within the District including the
construction of an information booth, an addition to the Transfer Station and the Re-Use Center,
reconstruction of the existing Scale House, completion of construction of the Truck Loading Pit,
including the acquisition and installation of the requisite original furnishings equipment, machinery
and apparatus and site work, including, but not limited to, storm water drainage, a new 1,000 gallon
above ground waste oil tank, paving of roads and construction of curbs and walkways, fencing,
landscaping and grading and improving the site (the "Project"); the estimated maximum cost of Project
is $3,250,00, including preliminary costs and incidental and financing costs in the amount of $50,000;
provided that grant funds may be received from the United States of America, the State of New York
or any other available sources to pay a part of some of such said costs.
Pursuant to the New York State Environmental Quality Review Act ("SEQRA") the
Board, as Lead Agency, has determined that the Project is a Type I Action having no significant
adverse environmental impact; a Negative Declaration has been issued and filed.
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the Town Board will meet at the Town Hall,
53095 Main Road, Southold, New York, at 7:00 o'clock P.M. (Prevailing Time), on November 15,
2004, for the purpose of conducting a public hearing to consider the Project, as described above.
At the public hearing, the Town Board will hear all persons interested in the proposed
Project.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
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#757
Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Jeffery S. Biggs to the
position of part-time Public Safety Dispatcher a rate of $11.97, effective July 29, 2004.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#758
Moved by Councilman Edwards, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby declares all of the items located
at the Southold Town Police Department that were not bid on October 14~ 2004, to be declared
unusable and destroyed.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#759
Moved by Councilman Ross, seconded by Councilman Edwards, it was
WHEREAS, the Town Board wishes to appoint a Hearing Officer to consider disciplinary charges
against an employee and suspending that employee without pay pursuant to the Civil Service
Law~
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby agrees to hire Mary C.
Wilson, Esq. as hearing officer in the disciplinary charges brought against a Town employee; and
FURTHER, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby suspends the employee without pay for
not more than thirty days pending the determination of the charges effective the day after the charges
are served upon the employee; and
RESOLVED that the Town Clerk be directed to forward a copy of this resolution to Richard
Zuckerman, Esq.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#76O
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs the Town
Attorney's office to retain the services of The Pimlico Group for the printing and mass mailing of
the public hearing notice in relation to a proposed bond for the Solid Waste District
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#761
Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Councilman Ross, it was
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RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Joshua Y. Horton to retain the services of L.K. McLean Associates~ Inc. to provide
engineering services relating to the Scavenger Waste Plant, per their proposal dated September 1,
2004.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#762
Moved by Councilman Edwards, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2004 Highway Fund
Part Town budget as follows:
To~
DB.5110.4.100.200 General Repairs, Fuel/Lubricants $7,000.00
DB.5110.4.100.350 General Repairs, Traffic Paint 3,754.31
DB.5110.4.100.905 General Repairs, Patch 5,000.00
DB.5110.4.100.960 General Repairs, Drain Pipes/Rings/Covers 10,000.00
DB.5110.4.100.975 General Repairs, Steel 2,322.25
DB.5130.4.100.500 Machinery, Parts & Supplies 1,500.00
DB.5130.4.100.550 Machinery, Tires 1,500.00
DB.5130.4.400.650 Machinery, Maintenance & Repairs 2,000.00
DB.5140.4.200.100 Miscellaneous, Telephone/Cellular Phone 2,500.00
DB.5110.4.100.900
DB.5110.4.100.915
DB.5130.2.500.300
DB.5130.2.500.400
DB.5140.4.600.300
General Repairs, Resurfacing Projects
General Repairs, Cement
Machinery, Contractor Equipment
Machinery, Radio Equipment
Miscellaneous, Travel
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
$29,254.31
1,500.00
2,500.00
1,000.00
1,322.25
Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
#763
Moved by Councilman Ross, seconded by Councilman Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby awards the following bid items
to the following persons:
A-6 Pink Huffy Kids Barbara Domaleski $ 5.00
A- 65 Dynol Comp BMX Palmer Schade $ 5.00
A-66 Ross Teal Bike Barbara Domaleski $ 5.00
BA-2 90 12' Sunfish Donald Grim $10.00
BA-4 14' Symph boat Donald Grim $ 5.00
BA-5 12' Delhi Donald Grim $ 5.00
BA-9 12' dingy w/eng. Donald Grim $ 2.00
BA-11 8' inflatable boat Michael Furst $ 75.00
BA-12 12' Alcort Sun. Michael Furst $ 30.00
MA-3 Sony Playstation Joseph Reiter $ 30.00
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MA- 11 Blue cooler Barbara Domaleski $1.00
MA-23 Blue golf bag Barbara Domaleski $1.00
MA-24 Green/yellow golf Barbara Domaleski $1.00
MA-28 Raytheon Radar Joseph Reiter $ 30.00
MA-38 Canon 35mm Barbara Domaleski $1.00
MA-58 Router/Hammer Donald Grim $10.00
MA-60 Fishing Poles Donald Grim $ 2.00
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#764
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to Detective
Beth Dzenkowski~ to attend the New York State Juvenile Officers Association Quarterly Board
meeting, in her current position as President, to be held in Binghamton, New York, commencing on
Thursday, December 2 through Saturday, December 4, 2004. The New York State Juvenile Officers
Association will cover all meals and accommodation expenses. Additional expenses would be
approximately $50.00 for transportation costs (gas & tolls), which would be a legal charge to the JAB
budget line - A.3157.4.600.300.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#765
Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Councilman Ross, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to Eric
Weiskott to use the following Town Roads to hold a Dr. Claire Memorial 5K running race on
November 6~ 2004 at 9:00 a.m.: Front Street, Moore's Lane, North Road, Main Street, Washington
Avenue, Middleton Road, Bennett Road, and Cedarfield's Drive, providing that a certificate of
provided they file with the Town Clerk a One Million Dollar Certificate of Insurance naming the Town
Southold as an additional insured and notify Capt. Flatley ten (10) days prior to the event to coordinate
traffic.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#766
Moved by Councilman Edwards, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs the Town
Clerk to advertise for resumes to fill the vacancies on Town Committees and Boards.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
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#767
Moved by Councilman Ross, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Tathiana Lema to the
position of Home Health Aide on Fishers Island, chargeable to the Programs for the Aging
department, effective October 20, 2004 at rate of $10.25 per hour.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#768
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the resignation of
Madeline F. Brisotti from her position as a Student Member of Southold Town Conservation
Advisory Council, effective immediately.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: The advertising to fill this position will take place in the advertisement for
other Town Boards and Committees.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#769
Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Joshua Y. Horton to execute an agreement with the Fishers Island Telephone
Company for the 2004-2005 monitoring of Alarm Data.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#77O
Moved by Councilman Edwards, seconded by Justice Evans,
WHEREAS, the Peconic Estuary, situated between the North and South Fork's of eastern Long
Island, New York, consists of more than 100 distinct bays, harbors, embayments and tributaries within
the Towns of Brookhaven, Southampton, Riverhead, Southold, East Hampton and Shelter Island; and
WHEREAS, the Peconic Estuary was accepted into the United States National Estuary Program in
September of 1992; and
WHEREAS, the Peconic Estuary Program (PEP) a partnership comprised of many stakeholders,
including Federal, State, and local governments, not-for-profit organizations, and citizens advisory
committees, completed a Comprehensive Conservation and Management Plan (CCMP) for the Peconic
Estuary, which was adopted by the Committee, signed by New York Governor Pataki, and approved
by the United States Environmental Protection Agency on November 15, 2001; and
WHEREAS, one of the goals of the CCMP was the development of a Critical Lands Protection
Strategy (CLPS) to identify and facilitate the protection of significant properties within the estuary
watershed; and
WHEREAS, the Critical Lands Protection Strategy (CLPS) process has been completed and the effort
to protect high priority parcels is underway; and
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WHEREAS, The Nature Conservancy considers the Peconic Estuary to be one of its priority
conservation sites on Long Island; and
WHEREAS, The Nature Conservancy (TNC) has been an active participant in the Peconic Estuary
Program and in the development and implementation of the Critical Lands Protection Strategy,
including making investments of its own funds and staff time in protection projects and working,
pursuant conservation services contracts, on behalf the Towns of East Hampton, Southampton,
Southold and the County of Suffolk; and
WHEREAS, as part of the Peconic Estuary Program's Critical Lands Protection Strategy, The Nature
Conservancy and the Town of Southold are working together to protect some 400 acres of wetlands,
uplands, beaches, ponds and creeks, and submerged lands at Pipe's Cove, including the
Arshamomaque Wetlands system north of State Route 25; and
WHEREAS, The Nature Conservancy and the Town of Southold have applied for and been awarded a
$1 million Coastal Wetlands Grant by the United States Fish and Wildlife Service ("FWS"), to come
through the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (NYSDEC), for the Town's
acquisition of lands at Pipe's Cove; and
WHEREAS, the United States Fish and Wildlife Service requires that its $1 million grant be matched
by at least a $1.8 million local investment by the Town of Southold; and
WHEREAS, The Nature Conservancy and the Town of Southold have negotiated the acquisition of a
47.31 acre property at Pipe's Cove known as the "Reese Parcel", for $2.25 million (SCTM 1000-45-5-
5) and TNC and the Town would like to use the $1 million FWS Coastal Wetland Grant as part of this
acquisition; and
WHEREAS, TNC is willing to donate $500,000 to the Town of Southold, to be used to acquire the
"Reese Parcel" (and to satisfy partially the Town's local match requirement for the FWS Coastal
Wetland Grant) as part of a larger sustained partnership with the Town, which includes ongoing
planning, land acquisition, and land management; now, therefore,
BE IT RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold, in accepting a $500~000 donation
from the Nature Conservancy to be used toward the acquisition of the Reese Parcel or other
Peconic Estuary land~ mutually agreed to by TNC and the Towm hereby commits to and
authorizes the Town's Land Preservation Department~ in partnership with TNC~ to prepare a
Pipe's Cove/Arshamomaque Park Plan as a blueprint for a unique and exemplary natural park area,
and be it
FURTHER RESOLVED that said plan will include, but not be limited to, the following: 1)
identification of parcels for acquisition; 2) a public/private funding strategy; 3) an acquisition
implementation plan; 4) park improvement and management recommendations; all of which, the Town
and The Nature Conservancy will work together to complete, and be it
FURTHER RESOLVED that a copy of this Resolution shall be mailed by the Town Clerk to the
following:
1)
2)
3)
4)
Melissa Spiro, Land Preservation Coordination, Town of Southold
Paul Rabinovitch, Director, Long Island Chapter, The Nature Conservancy
Randall Parsons, Conservation Finance and Policy Advisor, The Nature Conservancy
Jonathan Kaledin, Esq., New York Counsel, The Nature Conservancy
SUPERVISOR HORTON: What this is, is a strengthening of a partnership that already exists and
furthering a commitment with the Town and the Nature Conservancy to focus our resources together
on the Pipes Cove area. The reason being is that we actually have some preservation underway in
Pipes Cove. The Pipes Cove, which is basically on the western entrance to Greenport on Route 25,
across from Chapel Lane, right before you get to the Lutheran Church, the Pipes Cove area serves as a
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natural drain and filtration system. It is naturally linked to the Arshamomaque drainage system, it is
also naturally linked to the Moore's drain in Greenport. That area right there has been a tremendous
amount of preservation and the remainder of which is in the Pipe's Cove area is crucial to ensuring the
vitality of that ecological system as a whole. And that being said, ensuring the vitality of that system
as a whole is important to the community because, as ! said, it does serve as a natural filtration system
and those cannot be reconstructed or emulated by man. So, it is important that we do focus on this and
this is a strengthening of that partnership. We have already worked with the Nature Conservancy to
receive a $1 million grant through Fish and Wildlife and we look forward to strengthening this
partnership and assuring that we are in the running and more eligible for other types of funding that
would be specific to this cause.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#771
Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs the Town
Clerk to advertise for the Housing Summit to be held at the Southold High School on November
3, 2004, in both the Suffolk Times and Traveler Watchman papers for two consecutive weeks.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: With the Board's patience, ! am going to just briefly describe this. There
has been a lot of discussion and several major initiatives taken by the Southold Town Board since
January in regard to effecting in a positive way the issue that confronts the community as it pertains to
affordable housing, that spans all age groups. Actually, Councilman Wickham, you have been
instrumental in ensuring that seniors are represented as well. With that being said, we feel that it is
extremely important that we know exactly who it is we have to address. And who it is we have to
address the issue for. Who is working in our community, trying to live in our community that is in
need of some type of housing and what type of housing that is. We believe that without factual data,
you can't effectively address the problem. This is one way that we plan on obtaining that data so we
can move forward with organizations like the Community Land Trust of Southold Town or the North
Fork Housing Alliance toward addressing the issue. It is November 3, next month, November 3, 6:30
to 9:00 P.M. at Southold High School auditorium. We encourage the participation of anybody who is
in search of some form of housing in the town; so we can assess what the need is. Also at this summit,
we will be bridging the gap that ! believe often exists between people who are looking for housing and
people who are in the business of helping you get there. We will have lenders; we will have
organizations there in a very personal setting and comfortable setting, so we can promote a dialogue
between people who are in the housing market or rental market and those who can be of assistance. So
we encourage participation, November 3, 6:30 to 9:00 P.M.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#772
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby sets fees for the Solid Waste
District effective with the issuance of the 2005 permits as follows:
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Permit Fees
(with charging privileges)
$60.00 first permit,
$15.00 each additional
Permit Fees
(without charging privileges)
$15.00 first permit,
$7.50 each additional
Resident Single Entry Fee
$5.00
Guest/Lessee Permits
$15.00
Tip fees on Trash and Rubbish $130/ton
(non-town-bag)
SUPERVISOR HORTON: I just want to say briefly to a very valid point Mr. Carlin made earlier in
the evening, I think this year we did realize a modest surplus in the Solid Waste District, which was
applied back to this years tax bill, which is lowering the tax burden, the tax rate of the Solid Waste
District. And any time that we do generate a surplus, which isn't a bad thing, if we do generate a
surplus, we make a point of giving that back to the taxpayers. That is a longstanding policy of the
Town Board. That being said, the cost of shipping garbage is going up exponentially. We were
talking about it early at the Town Board, I have been to several symposiums and conferences in regard
to waste management and handling it and moving it off the Island and it is definitely going to be one of
the biggest issues Long Island faces in the very near future. Landfills around the country are closing
and technology isn't keeping up with the demand and I think we have to be cognizant of that.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#773
Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Councilman Edwards,
WHEREAS the Town Board of the Town of Southold has supported local efforts to re-seed shellfish
stock and improve shellfish habitat; and
WHEREAS the Town Board is concerned about the viability of shellfish resources, and the long-term
effect that dredging may have on this habitat and the future of strong shell-fish crops and the
possibility of revitalizing the commercial shellfish industry and;
WHEREAS on October 15th the Southold Town Trustees authorized scalloping that includes the use
of dredges which are possibly damaging to shellfish habitat restoration, now therefore be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby requests that the Town of
Southold Board of Trustees reconsider the "Resolution in relation to scallop season" dated
October 15~ 2004~ at their public meeting on October 20~ 2004.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: I want to make one thing very clear, that this is not at all in opposition to
the, to commercial enterprise as it pertains to shellfish. What this is, is a bigger picture view to the
long-term possibility of regaining and revitalizing a dwindling industry. Several million dollars of
public funds over the past couple of years and at one point, several million dollars in the past month,
has been invested in the shellfish industry and the lions share of that has been from the County on the
east end. And ! think that we have to be very careful if we are serious about revitalizing the shellfish
industry, particularly the scallop industry, that we have seen fall upon hard times; that we don't get
ahead of ourselves. And ! think we want to talk about seeing that happen in the long-term or even the
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remote possibility of a viable commercial industry, we can't get ahead of ourselves and start dredging
up recently re-seeded areas; recently re-habilitated habitats in which bugs can take hold and flourish.
And that, ! think, is the concern of the Board and is the thrust of this resolution, is that we think long-
term so we do have the possibility of ensuring and revitalizing a commercial industry.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#774
Moved by Councilman Edwards, seconded by Councilman Ross, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby finds that the proposed Local Law
entitled "A Local Law in relation to Cluster Development in the Southold Town Code" is
classified as a Type II Action pursuant to SEQRA Rules and Regulations~ 6 NYCRR Section
617.5~ and is not subiect to review under SEQRA.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: The last two items on the agenda, 75 and 76, we have to hold until we have
completed the public hearings.
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Ross, it was
RESOLVED that this Town Board meeting is hereby recessed for the purpose of holding two (2)
public hearings (1.) HEARING ON "A LOCAL LAW IN RELATION TO CLUSTER
DEVELOPMENT IN THE SOUTHOLD TOWN CODE." AND (2). HEARING ON THE
PURCHASE OF A DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS EASEMENT ON PROPERTY OF BOOTH~ ET
AL~ SCTM #1000-51-2-7 AND 1000-51-2-8.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
Meeting resumed at
#775
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Wickham,
WHEREAS, there has been presented to the Town Board of the Town of Southold, Suffolk County,
New York, on the 21st day of September 2004 a Local Law entitled "A Local Law in relation to
Cluster Development in the Southold Town Code" and
WHEREAS the Town Board of the Town of Southold held a public hearing on the aforesaid Local
Law which time all interested persons were given an opportunity to be heard.
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby enacts the following Local Law:
A Local Law entitled "A Local Law in relation to Cluster Development in the Southold Town
Code" reads as follows:
LOCAL LAW NO. 2004
A Local Law entitled "A Local Law in relation to Cluster Development in the Southold Town Code"
BE IT ENACTED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold, as follows:
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I. Purpose. Local Law number 18 of 2004 relating to a new Chapter Al06 - Subdivision of Land in
the Southold Town Code provides new procedures and regulations for Cluster Development. Sections
100-180 and 181 are being deleted in their entirety, and Cluster Development is now addressed at
Sections A106-47 through 49.
II. Chapter 100 of the Code of the Town of Southold is hereby amended as follows:
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IlL Severability.
If any clause, sentence, paragraph, section, or pa~ of this Local Law shall be adjudged by any cou~ of
competent jurisdiction to be invalid, the judgment shall not effect the validity of this law as a whole or
any pa~ thereof other than the pa~ so decided to be unconstitutional or invalid.
1% Effective date
This Local Law shall take effect immediately upon filing with the Secretary of State as provided by
law.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supemisor Ho~on.
This resolution was duly ~OPTED.
#776
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Wickham,
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Southold held a public hearing of the question of the
purchase of a development rights easement on a certain parcel of property owned by Edward C. Booth,
et al., on the 19th day of October, 2004, pursuant to the provisions of Chapter 25 (Agricultural Lands
Preservation) and Chapter 6 (Community Preservation Fund) of the Town Code, at which time all
interested parties were given the opportunity to be heard; and
WHEREAS, said property is identified as SCTM #1000-51-2-7 and #1000-51-2-8. The addresses are
17580 Sound View Avenue and 17240 Sound View Avenue, respectively, and the property is located
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on the south side of Sound View Avenue, the west side of Mt. Beulah Avenue and the north side of
Old North Road, in Southold in an A-C zoning district; and
WHEREAS, the development rights easement comprises approximately 21.8647 acres of the 28.3647
acre parcels. The exact area of the development rights easement is subject to survey; and
WHEREAS, the property is listed on the Town's Community Preservation Project Plan as property
that should be preserved due to its agricultural, open space and scenic values; and
WHEREAS, the property is in the vicinity of other lands on which either the Town or the County have
preserved; and
WHEREAS, the purchase of the development rights on this property is in conformance with the
provisions of Chapter 6 (2% Community Preservation Fund) and Chapter 25 (Agricultural Lands
Preservation) of the Town Code, and
WHEREAS, the purchase price is $37,000 (thirty-seven thousand dollars) per buildable acre; and
WHEREAS, the Town Board deems it in the best public interest that the Town of Southold purchase
the development rights on this agricultural land; now therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby elects to purchase a development
rights easement on the property owned by Edward C. Booth~ et al., pursuant to the provisions of
Chapter 6 and Chapter 25 of the Code of the Town of Southold. Said property is identified as SCTM
#1000-51-2-7 and #1000-51-2-8 and 17580 and 17240 Sound View Avenue, respectively, and is
located on the south side of Sound View Avenue, the west side of Mt. Beulah Avenue and the north
side of Old North Road, in Southold in an A-C zoning district. The development rights easement
comprises approximately 21.8647 acres of the 28.3647 acre parcels. The exact area of the development
rights easement is subject to survey. The purchase price for the easement is $37,000 (thirty-seven
thousand dollars) per buildable acre.
COUNCILMAN EDWARDS: ! would like to just comment that this particular project took up a,
lasted almost as long as my tenure on the Land Preservation Committee and ! am delighted and ! hope
that everybody in this Town is delighted and ! certainly hope that the Booth family, who have been
very generous in pursuing this project are as happy with the preservation of this marvelous piece of
property in an area where it might very well have ended up being nothing but houses. ! am absolutely
delighted, ! think and ! am grateful to Dr. Booth and his family that this transaction has come together,
that everybody feels as good about it as ! do.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Thank you, Councilman Edwards.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: That concludes the resolutions we have on this evening's agenda. And
Mr. Carlin, you care to address the Board?
MR. CARL1N: Waiting a long time, Josh.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: ! know how you feel.
MR. CARL1N: ! don't need the black book tonight, ! am going to speak out of my mind. ! want you
to realize something, Josh, before ! start. ! speak very loud sometimes. It is not because ! am angry or
! am bent out of shape, it is just my sound carries and ! operate better when ! am a little bit louder.
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Before I start on my main, oh, I have so many issues backlogged, I don't know how to catch up with
these, Josh. You ever find that out, too?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: You can .....
MR. CARL1N: ! am telling you, I'll never catch up with these.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: ...... you know what you can do, you can come by, you know ! am open
Wednesday nights?
MR. CARLIN: I know.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: And people just stop by without appointments.
MR. CARL1N: No, I don't want to, I got something, I won't comment on that. Anyway ....
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Service with a smile.
MR. CARL1N: It's uh .... well, anyway, what I want to speak on tonight is, you mentioned earlier in
the evening, no, excuse me, back, ! got two quick questions ! want to ask you before ! go into this
issue. The last Board meeting, Mrs. Egan brought up about the scanner at the uh .....
SUPERVISOR HORTON: For the Justice Court?
MR. CARL1N: At the court.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Yes.
MR. CARL1N: Well, I think people are getting confused when I say scanner. What I meant was the
metal detector that scans you.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Right, right.
MR. CARL1N: And I didn't mean entering the door, I meant, when they come in to scan you. That is
when you mentioned to her, you avoided the question by saying about some door. ! am not interested
in a door. ! am interested in are you going to have or do you have a metal detector?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: We don't have ....
MR. CARL1N: And I think you should have one, in the court.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Okay, well, we currently don't have a metal detector and there are some
legal questions surrounding that in regard to a Town level Justice Court, as to how that would be
implemented. And we need to find that out.
MR. CARL1N: What could be so legal about it? When you are using the airport and everything else.
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SUPERVISOR HORTON: You would be surprised.
MR. CARL1N: Well, we have to change something there.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Either surprised or disappointed, you may not be surprised.
MR. CARL1N: The other one was, ! asked you a question about a month ago, about Riverhead willing
to offer Suffolk County to hook up to water. And you had said it was to do with Suffolk County in
Riverhead.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: The Water Authority.
MR. CARL1N: Yeah, Water Authority.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Which is separate from the County.
MR. CARL1N: That's right. You are right there.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Right.
MR. CARL1N: But to do that, the Water Authority and Riverhead has to have a blessing from the
Town of Southold.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: No, they do not.
MR. CARL1N: They do not?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: No.
MR. CARL1N: Then why was it in the paper, you mentioned in the paper about a month ago that you
wasn't anxious about having that done because you would be afraid of increasing the population of
Southold Town. What did you make that statement for?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: First, Mr. Carlin, that is not a statement that ! made.
MR. CARL1N: Well, it was in the paper.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: That is not something that ! said. That being said ....
MR. CARL1N: Well, it was in the paper, ! am sorry. ! am going to prove it to you when ! go home
and get the paper.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Okay. So your question specifically being why what?
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MR. CARLIN: I didn't say why but you made a statement saying that you wasn't, more or less, you
wasn't anxious having that done because you would be afraid it would increase the population of the
Town. I don't, did you, I don't think you meant that.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Well, A. I don't think I said that but my position is very clear and that is in
regard to planning in Southold Town, actually, when I say plan, I mean beyond zoning and legalistic
terms of planning. But in regard to the growth of $outhold Town, I think it is very important that the
Water Authority and the Town work closely in regard to how infrastructure is implemented in that
what I think is important is residents that are already in populated areas, that are already in existence
and on wells, should be afforded the opportunity to hook up to public water before water mains are run
out into farm fields on roads to nowhere. That has long been my position and I think that infrastructure
in regard to the future growth of the Town, has to be an active part of our dialogue in regard to
planning.
MR. CARL1N: So, but I really think though, that you wouldn't sacrifice clear water for over-
population?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: No and I don't .....
MR. CARL1N: You wouldn't sacrifice .....
SUPERVISOR HORTON: No, Frank. And not only would I not, as a moral person, I also don't have
the authority to.
MR. CARL1N: Okay. Alright. Now, the main subject tonight.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: I thought that was the main subject?
MR. CARLIN: No, no, no, no, no. You mentioned to me before that the cost has gone up on the
landfill there. I am not going to speak on the landfill tonight, that is another issue. But you did
mention that the cost of the overhead has gone up on the landfill there. That is okay. Well, it has gone
up a lot of things. It has gone up for gasoline, it has gone up for everybody in the Town, senior
citizens .....
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Well, not only senior citizens. Sixteen year olds who drive.
MR. CARL1N: Everybody. Everybody.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: And what is the mainstay of the operation up there? Fuel oil.
MR. CARLIN: Right.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Heating oil.
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MR. CARL1N: I am getting to that. (Inaudible) And fuel oil has gone up. And they predict if we
have a cold winter, like we had last year, it can go up almost 23 percent more in prices. It was as high
as $54 per barrel in oil the other day, now it is down to $53.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: And last year at this time, it was at $32 a barrel. So you are right.
MR. CARL1N: Yeah. So you can imagine what fuel oil can be if we have a cold winter. And we are
getting in the cycle of cold winters. If you noticed last year it was cold, and this year, I predict it is
going to be cold again. Because I noticed the squirrels are collecting their chestnuts early this year,
like they did last year. And the cycle of the country, of the world is changing. Back to the way it was
seasonal years ago. And to prove that, if you notice this fall, the nights became shorter, quicker. It is
usually a minute a day, a half hour a month. It was down to 21 minutes a month because, you know
why? And I am going to get off that right now, you know why? Because the sun is getting closer to
the earth, that is why it got darker a little earlier this year and it is getting dark early. But anyway, now
you are saying that the cost of everything has gone up. Okay, now, let's go to how the people are
going to compensate for that. The seniors or the ....
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Everybody, Mr. Carlin.
MR. CARL1N: ..... everybody. The middle, the middle working class and everybody.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: We as a community; that is correct.
MR. CARL1N: That is the community. Now, let's take senior citizens at the beginning. They all
know they are getting a 17% increase in their B portion of their Medicare, which is $11 more taken out
of their paycheck; they know that. And we got this year a 2.1 percent raise, next year will only be a
2.5 percent raise, so they weren't going to end up with very much, they have nothing to look forward
to there. The B portion of your deductible from $100 is going to be $110. That is another increase for
the seniors. Go to plan A, hospital deduction, that is going up. So anyway, that goes up there.
Mentioned the increase in the fuel oil we are going to be paying for. Now, let's talk about tax
increases. Say a school comes along and says ....
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Mr. Carlin, in regard to specific town items, you were talking about the
Scavenger Waste, I mean the Solid Waste District. Okay, I am just trying to make sure that we are on
the same ....
MR. CARL1N: I am not on the Solid Waste District right now. I told you I am going to cut that short
tonight. I am going to bring that into another night. I am on this one tonight, I want to speak on
tonight, if you don't mind.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: I am just making sure I am following you, Mr. Carlin.
MR. CARL1N: Okay. Okay. And I am making sure I am trying to follow you.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: I am fast.
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MR. CARL1N: Huh?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: I am fast.
MR. CARL1N: Okay. Now, you take, on this here, you take, ! mentioned about certain school and
they are going to modify and they come to you and they say, well, that is only going to be another
$350 a year on your tax, on the average assessment, so let's put that on the side. That is another $350
more, if that modification goes through. Let's put that on the side there, okay? And the library comes
along and says, that will be another $12, that don't sound much to anybody, does it? So let's put that
on the side and add that to it. The Town comes along and says, $37 more your taxes are going up for
the average $6,000 assessed amount, that don't sound so bad. Let's put that on the side. So we add
that all up and now we are over $400. Four hundred dollars for some people nowadays, senior
citizens, who are working on fixed incomes, middle and working class income people who are trying
to pay a mortgage off, trying to put food on the table, trying to send children to school and pay their
taxes; that means a lot. It means a lot in the budget and how money is being spent. That is why ! am
very critical how Town, or anybody spends money in this Town.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: We have, and ! can certainly appreciate and identify with that and you
started off with the Solid Waste District, of which we have reduced the head count of personnel there
and we have taken steps to find cost savings wherever we can. At the same time, it is a balance and !
agree with you 100 percent, which is why Town government, if you look at the budget this year, we
have made a real effort that if there are increases, we have tried to limit the best that we can, without
sacrificing the type of services we provide senior citizens; the service we provide up in Mattituck on a
daily basis, providing lunches or if people can't get to Mattituck, taking lunches to their homes;
without sacrificing these types of services, which ! think we as a community believe are important, we
try as best as we can to limit increases in spending to non-discretionary increases.
MR. CARLIN: I am not trying to put, bring you into this picture, I am trying to bring everything in
general. The schools, everything that has an effect on the taxpayers in this Town. Now, it's been a
survey done that 56 percent of the people that are making $75,000 a year are satisfied with their way of
life. Living. Only 24 percent that are making less or $25,000 or less are not. So I am trying to prove
to you that it is rough on middle working class people and the senior citizens. That is what ! am trying
to drive across. We don't all make $100,000 a year or $75,000. So that doesn't affect us too much. It
is these people that are living from day to day, the senior citizens who are trying to pay for prescription
drugs and trying to make ends meet. This is why ! don't understand. And this is why ! monitor how
money is being spent all over the Town. And ! never forgotten a year ago, when ! was in Eckerdt's in
Mattituck when ! was going to buy a prescription, pay for a prescription that ! had ordered. And this
young woman, a senior citizen came in there and was picking up prescription drugs and the pharmacist
said to her it was $120, this is a true story, said to her, it was $120. She probably pulled out a card and
handed it to the pharmacist. The pharmacist looked at the card and said this is no good. It evidently
wasn't for brand-name drugs.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: You are definitely tapping into some very important social issues.
MR. CARLIN: So she said, I don't know how I am going to pay for this. Well, another person waited
on me, ! don't know what happened, ! walked out. But that is a good example of what the seniors are
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up against. And this Medicare program you got coming out in 2006, forget it. That is not going to be
the answer for it. ! want to say one more thing, too. ! sit in front of this microphone in 1996 and !
mentioned to the Town Board, when we got the STAR program come out in 1996, ! mentioned to the
Town Board and ! also mentioned to Scott Russell, the Tax Assessor, ! said, 'Scott, it looks good.'
Seven, eight hundred dollars. It is going to help in our taxes. But ! tell you one thing. Give us about
three or four years and that is going to be wiped out. And we are going to be back to square one and
that is where we are now. My basic point here is, the bottom line is, what ! am trying to say here is
when we have to vote on a budget that requires us to vote on, people in this town, think about it more
carefully before you vote on it because how it affects your pocketbook. That is the bottom line. That
is important, how we are going to survive.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Right. And how we are going to provide an Animal Shelter and how are
we going to do these things that are so important to the community, Mr. Carlin, you are right. Things
cost money, and prioritizing and economizing is extremely important.
MR. CARL1N: But sometimes...
SUPERVISOR HORTON: ! mean, we can't have our cake and eat it, too. If we want a two million
dollar Animal Shelter or even a one million dollar Animal Shelter, but we don't want to see that
reflected in the tax bill, ! wish ! had an answer for that but ! simply do not.
MR. CARLIN: Well ....
SUPERVISOR HORTON: ! understand your point and ! agree with most of what you said.
MR. CARLIN: I could stand here and argue with that but I won't but I will tell you something,
though. ! had somebody, ! was in a restaurant the other night and this gentlemen come up to me, a
senior citizen and said he said to me, 'why do we need to spend $8 million for a Town Hall for, why
can't we re-modify this one?' ! don't know how to tell him this.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Well, we won't be ..... well, you can say Mr. Carlin, you know as well as !
do, we will not be spending $8 million on a Town Hall.
MR. CARLIN: But they don't mention these things in the paper.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Well, there is your newspaper editor right there. He is sitting right there. If
he printed that, he was flat wrong. Patently false.
MR. CARLIN: Well, you know what, to me, I don't want to get involved with the media again.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: I am hearing, man.
MR. CARLIN: Because I see it on the election now on TV. I don't want no part of it. But anyway,
this is what happened. What ! am saying is, too, sometimes though Josh, you can balance something.
Take something from over here and move it over here, into this.
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SUPERVISOR HORTON: Right, exactly. And what we are trying to do, what we will be doing is,
the annual rent we pay to North Fork Bank for the space we are currently operating out of, when we
have the new Town Hall, we will no longer have to pay that. The money that goes to that will pay the
debt service on any renovations we do here. You probably will not see an increase in spending in
regard to that because of what we are paying on a 20 to 30 year lease.
MR. CARLIN: But you know ....
SUPERVISOR HORTON: So that money applied right there is exactly what you are talking about.
The economizing also shifting; shifting gears. Doing things better and right now, ! submit paying
$50,000 to $70,000 a year in leases to a private owner, that is not an investment in the Town. So what
we are looking to do is stop that practice and make sure any money that is spent on a Town facility is
invested for the long term, for the people of Southold Town, so they own it at the end of the day.
MR. CARL1N: That is what I was driving at for a couple, for four or five years. Try to get the whole
building over there, get it all .....
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Well, fortunately .... that is good, but unfortunately it is not for sale.
MR. CARL1N: It was the Town's fault. Not your Board, but Board's before this.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: You are right.
MR. CARL1N: Why we have to while we are spending $2 million for an Animal Shelter, this should
have been done 17 years ago ....
SUPERVISOR HORTON: And we are here to do the best we can with the resources that we have.
MR. CARL1N: ..... you wouldn't have had the problem. The longer you wait, though, Josh, now ! am
coming back to this. So long as you keep putting this thing off, like you been doing, it is going to cost
more.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Mr. Carlin, generally you and I agree on most everything but the only thing
! would have to disagree with you ....
MR. CARL1N: You are welcome.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: .... on is that the Town Board is not putting off the Animal Shelter.
MR. CARL1N: Oh, come on, Josh.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: And we are not going to get into an argument about it, Mr. Carlin because
! will say it again and ! will say it once this evening. We are committed, committed ......
MR. CARLIN: I am going to go along with you on that.
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SUPERVISOR HORTON: .... we are committed to a proper facility, that the public can get behind and
the organization that we are working with can get out and raise money so that the burden of funding
the construction of the Shelter isn't on the shoulder of the taxpayer. And we have not sold that
process, since this Board has taken office in January, we have come light years in progress to ensuring
that project gets off the ground. But it has to be done right.
MR. CARL1N: ! didn't come here to speak on the Animal Shelter but ! will say this, Josh, this is
something that you cannot have a rebuttal on, last year Jamie Richter said in the paper that it was
possible that we will break ground on the Animal Shelter the spring of 2004. ! met you ....
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Hey, we are not afraid, not ever afraid to say if ! was wrong or if we made
a mistake.
MR. CARL1N: You are wrong.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Sure.
MR. CARL1N: Let me finish.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Certainly we were wrong.
MR. CARL1N: I met you when I paid my taxes in January, outside the Town Hall. You shook my
hand and you said, 'Frank, we are going to break ground this September.'
SUPERVISOR HORTON: And we had hoped to and that didn't come to fruition. But attacking, but
on a weekly basis, a bi-weekly basis, reminding the Town Board that they are deficient in their duties
isn't getting us any closer to our goal.
MR. CARLIN: Well, I didn't want to bring this up because I didn't want to but being that it is brought
up, I want to cut this short in a minute.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Alright because we...
MR. CARLIN: Tom Wickham, when he took over the Animal Shelter back in January, he looked at
that plan and he said 'we have got to start from scratch' and ! am going to be presenting a plan to the
Town Board within two weeks.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Mr. Carlin, either you are with us...
MR. CARLIN: Okay? You want to see the paper on this?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: No, what I want to say Mr. Carlin is ....
MR. CARLIN: Okay, let's stop right now because I can follow you all the way.
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SUPERVISOR HORTON: Yes, Mr. Carlin, let's please stop. That's fine. Either everybody is on
board with creating an Animal Shelter or not but let me tell you this...
MR. CARL1N: Give me a certain date.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: No, ! am not going to.
MR. CARL1N: You can't, that is right.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: The ship is leaving the dock and you are either going to be on the dock or
you are going to be on the ship.
MR. CARLIN: Who...what ....
SUPERVISOR HORTON: No, I am just saying in general. Anybody, the choice is the public' s. So we
are trying our best to move ahead.
MR. CARLIN: I am asking, though, can you give me...
SUPERVISOR HORTON: And you have been very helpful in the process.
MR. CARLIN: .... a reasonable date, now? Come on.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: I am not going to do that, Mr. Carlin.
MR. CARLIN: You can't do that?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: No, I can't.
MR. CARLIN: You can't even do it for even six months out, you can't do that?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Mr. Carlin ....
MR. CARLIN: This don't give me much encouragement, Josh.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Well, Mr. Carlin, you know what doesn't give me much encouragement?
Is constantly being reminded or told that the Town Board is deficient in their duties, when they are
working so hard. Councilman Edwards, Councilman Wickham, Councilman Ross, working so hard to
create a plan that people can get behind.
MR. CARLIN: Please, I want to stop this because you have been through six plans already, Josh.
Come on. Does it take six plans to build an Animal Shelter? Come on, you are talking to Frank Carlin
now. I know the facts, Josh. Come on. Don't let me keep going here. You would lose in a court of
law with this case, with me right now. And I rest my case on that.
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SUPERVISOR HORTON: Okay. Then the trial is over. But ! do appreciate your coming tonight,
think you have made a lot of good points.
MR. CARL1N: I have got a lot of things in the future I want to speak about and I think that would be
of help. But ! do monitor how money is being spent and ! feel sorry for a lot of senior citizens who are
going to have a rough time and a lot of middle, working class people and anybody in this Town in the
future because it isn't going to be easy. Taxes are going up and it is no joke.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: You are right, it is no joke.
MR. CARL1N: And ! tell you another thing what makes me really feel bad about this, ! don't want to
mention the school, ! don't want to mention the Superintendent ....
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Then don't.
MR. CARL1N: ! won't. Not mentioning a thing. But when ! went to a Board meeting a while back...
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Mr. Carlin, this is about Town business, ! would prefer not to get into the
school affairs.
MR. CARL1N: If you can't pay for your school taxes, mortgage your house. When ! heard that, forget
it.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Mr. Carlin, very good to see you. ! appreciate your input. You always
have something constructive to say.
MR. CARL1N: Can ! add one more thing?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: ! don't know if we have a choice.
MR. CARL1N: ! want to say one more thing while ! am on a roll here. About a month ago ! came in,
sat in the hall there, on the chair. This gentleman came in and he sat down and he says, 'hey, Frank,
are you still going to Town Board meetings?' ! says, 'yeah.' He says, '! want to tell you something,'
and this is a true fact, this is how many years ! been coming to Board meetings, way before this
evening. He says, 'back in 1990, when Scott Harris was the Supervisor, ! had the Town Board meeting
on one night and ! was in the living room and my wife was watching the Town Board meeting and !
heard this guy speaking, ! could tell it was you from the sound of your voice, ! could tell it was you.'
And you know what he told me? He says, 'it keeps somebody special to get up there and say what you
say.' And ! am damn proud of it and ! am going to continue doing it until the day ! am in the ground.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: You should be. Good. And ! look forward to every meeting of it, that is
for sure. Mr. Carlin, have a very good evening.
MR. CARL1N: Would you put flowers on my grave?
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SUPERVISOR HORTON: ! don't want, you know Mr. Carlin, there is a special place in my heart for
you and ! would prefer not to think in such morbid terms.
MR. CARL1N: One more thing.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Yeah. Bring it to us. Give it to me.
MR. CARL1N: When I am in the Town Hall I am strictly business, outside the Town Hall, you are all
my friends. And ! know, John, ! meet John on the street, ! say 'hi ya, John.' He is not here now. 'Hi
ya, John.'
SUPERVISOR HORTON: You are seeing John' s better side right now.
MR. CARL1N: He is underneath there, someplace. But ! meet you' se all. And any Board before this.
! have always got along with them. When ! walk in that door, ! am strictly business. ! am not a bad
guy.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Well said, well said. Thank you, Mr. Carlin and thank you very much for
coming out this evening. And please do, keep it up. Would anybody else care to address the Board?
(No response) This meeting is adjourned. Thank you again. Thank you, all of you for coming.
Moved by Supervisor Horton, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board meeting be and hereby is declared adjourned at 5:50 P.M.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
Elizabeth A. Neville
Southold Town Clerk