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1 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK : STATE OF NEW YORK
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TOWN BOARD
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7 Southold, New York
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16 ALBERT KRUPSKI JR, SUPERVISOR
17 LOUISA P . EVANS, JUSTICE
18 GREG DOROSKI , COUNCILMAN
19 BRIAN O . MEALY, COUNCILMAN
20 ANNE H . SMITH, COUNCILWOMAN
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1 PUBLIC COMMENTS
2 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Having
3 said that, is there anyone who ' d like
4 to address the Board on any matter,
5 Pat?
6 PATRICIA MOORE : Good evening,
7 Patricia Moore, local resident, local
8 lawyer . I have with me today also
9 local architects that are very familiar
10 with the gross floor area law . I know
11 that I just heard that the Chairman of
12 the ZBA and some members were at the
13 Board ' s work session today . I didn ' t
14 have the benefit of being able to
15 listen to it . I ' m going to ask for a
16 copy of the outline that they provided
17 to express their difficulties with the
18 law, as it ' s been adopted . It was
19 adopted in 2022 , so we ' ve all had to
20 work with this law for quite some time .
21 We ' ve all found -- I as a lawyer,
22 submitting applications to the Zoning
23 Board and the architects who are put in
24 the very difficult position of
25 certifying the calculations of gross
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1 floor area . It is a very cumbersome
2 law . It is very time consuming,
3 extremely expensive for the applicants
4 between having the research of all the
5 homes that the Zoning Board has , by a
6 guidance memo, directed us to get
7 information on, and the lack of
8 information that ' s available through
9 public records . It has created a law
10 that is really unworkable and has hurt
11 a lot of people, has resulted in
12 litigation . I know we ' ve got some
13 litigation . I don ' t know how many
14 others are Article 78 ' s have been
15 filed, but it ' s not ending . And every
16 day that this law remains on the books
17 continues to cause havoc, to cause
18 problems , to cause all of us to work
19 tremendously hard at great expense to
20 clients , and really is not the way that
21 the law was intended to work . And
22 ultimately, we certainly I would hope
23 that the Board consider revoking it in
24 total . Start over . Work with examples
25 before you adopt it . Don ' t come up
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1 with pressure tactics from different
2 constituencies that push a particular
3 law on the books . But in reality, when
4 it ' s implemented, it creates a great
5 difficulty . The law as it ' s been, as
6 it was adopted, you have vacant lots
7 that don ' t count . You have small
8 houses that could change the day after
9 your variance . And that ' s one of the
10 issues that a client brought up to me
11 because after hours and hours of
12 compiling the gross floor area of every
13 house that is 10 across the street and
14 five on one side , five on the other .
15 That ' s 20 homes and all the research
16 involved . The day after the hearing,
17 the day after the approval or denial ,
18 one of those homes comes , one of those
19 small homes comes in for an as-of-right
20 renovation, completely changes the
21 numbers . It would have switched all
22 the numbers around had that property
23 been developed or your application gone
24 in a month later or a year later . So
25 it ' s a moving target and the way the
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1 law was passed and how it ' s being
2 implemented is quite frankly
3 unworkable . And really I ' ll rely on
4 some of the architects to comment
5 because they ' re the ones who all
6 together we ' ve struggled through it . I
7 don ' t want to belabor the points . I ' m
8 expressing my complete displeasure with
9 the law . I know at the Code Committees
10 for the adoption, we ' ve met
11 professionals . We had the benefit of
12 meeting with the Supervisor and
13 Planning, and we expressed our concern
14 with the law . I ' m happy to see that
15 the Zoning Board themselves are finding
16 it unworkable . With that in mind, it
17 should be taken off the books
18 immediately . We should not be trying
19 to tinker with a law that is defective
20 right from the start . Start at the
21 beginning, work through some examples
22 before, and examples from all over the
23 place, from different neighborhoods ,
24 not what is perceived to be a problem .
25 Let ' s address a problem if it actually
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1 exists , because there ' s a lot of laws .
2 You have the sky plane and you have lot
3 coverage . Together, those regulate the
4 volumes of houses . So this GFA law, I
5 think, I hope it was well-intentioned,
6 but in fact, it ' s unworkable . So I
7 implore you, please take it off the
8 books .
9 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : So I
10 appreciate your comments because, you
11 know, we did have that one meeting that
12 you attended in the bank lobby there .
13 And then we had an internal meeting
14 with the Planning director and the
15 chair of the ZBA and myself, and one of
16 the members from the Zoning Update
17 Committee to try to rationalize what ' s
18 going on there . So it sounds like
19 you ' re not satisfied with the current
20 law .
21 PATRICIA MOORE : I mean, I know
22 laws are well-intentioned . It ' s not
23 the purpose . The Board never has the
24 purpose of passing laws that hurt
25 people . I know that for a fact . But I
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1 think anytime you pass a law, and one
2 that is as hugely impactful as this
3 one . Right when it was adopted, I
4 think that there was an understanding,
5 well , we have to see how it works . And
6 if it doesn ' t work, we can deal with
7 it . Well , we ' re at that point . It
8 doesn ' t work . It ' s really bad . And
9 one of the major problems is -- and I
10 have to give you as an example, and
11 it ' s crazy to me . When the GFA
12 calculation came in, there was an
13 attitude that, oh, a garage, which is
14 truly a garage, it ' s housing a car, not
15 living space, should be included in the
16 GFA. Well , let me tell you, one car,
17 two car garage so screws up the living
18 space for any property . And the
19 reaction I got was , well , because you
20 can have somebody that makes a garage
21 into living space . So you ' ve screwed .
22 You ' ve hurt -- You hurt an entire
23 community for the likelihood that
24 somebody might not follow the code and
25 will eventually be caught because you
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1 and I both know, we -- every time I go
2 to the Building Department, I ' m
3 cleaning up something that a prior
4 owner did and the Building Department
5 makes you clean it up . So it will be
6 caught at some point . It can be
7 addressed when it ' s a violation, but
8 don ' t penalize everybody for the
9 possibility that somebody might try to
10 scoot the law by putting a bathroom in
11 a garage or something .
12 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : So I ' m
13 not underestimating what you ' re saying
14 by any means because the internal
15 meetings kind of indicated what you ' re
16 saying is true . No one ever mentioned
17 repealing the law . So we ' ll have to
18 look at -- and I ' m not sure what
19 happened three years ago when they did
20 a lot of things . I ' m not sure what
21 happened or what the intent was . But
22 take a look at the recommendations . If
23 you don ' t have them, please call my
24 office tomorrow . We can send you the
25 recommendations , and see -- and I know
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1 what you mean by tinkering with it . I
2 get that . But take a look at those
3 before you pass judgment on the
4 tinkering, because maybe you ' ll say,
5 well , that ' s exactly -- that ' s exactly
6 cause some good . And it ' s not going to
7 be the disaster that, you know, we ' re
8 working on it, that it is . And I think
9 we passed Resolution 749 in response to
10 that today . Hiring two people to do --
11 it ' s for visualization work and they ' re
12 going to do different -- so people can
13 understand it .
14 COUNCILWOMAN ANNE SMITH : It ' s
15 modeling .
16 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : But
17 it ' s visual modeling . It ' s not like a
18 formula where people are scratching
19 their heads and trying to figure out --
20 PATRICIA MOORE : Just to get a
21 clarification, are you trying to take
22 the existing law and modeling examples
23 or they ' re hired in order to model code
24 that is being proposed?
25 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Model
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1 the mechanics of what you ' re looking
2 at . You said you have to go from house
3 to house and try to imagine the ground,
4 the GFA for each one, right? This
5 would model it so that we can visualize
6 it, and the people who are applying for
7 things can visualize it, and get a
8 better idea of how the law is applied .
9 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : And
10 Leslie did say that they are working on
11 some changes to the law .
12 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Yeah,
13 we have a list of proposed changes .
14 PATRICIA MOORE : I look forward to
15 the --
16 COUNCILWOMAN ANNE SMITH : The word
17 " simply" the word " simplified" came up
18 over and over .
19 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : That I
20 was kind of giving her a hard time that
21 she was hyping it up as pretty
22 significant . Yeah -- Because I think
23 she shares your feedback that it ' s
24 not --
25 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : It
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1 doesn ' t serve anyone .
2 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Yeah .
3 Anyone not the intent . You know, she
4 went through some of the mechanics even
5 of trying to calculate the gross floor
6 area and the difficulty of even getting
7 the cards from the Assessor ' s Office .
8 PATRICIA MOORE : You ' re only going
9 to get two cards a day .
10 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Two
11 cards --
12 PATRICIA MOORE : No, four cards ,
13 four cards a day . So it ' s like the
14 families putting in FOILS for four
15 cards .
16 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : So it ' s
17 just even, you know, well-intentioned
18 rules to, you know, deal with something
19 is just making an already difficult
20 process more difficult . And I think,
21 you know, the ZBA recognizes it . The
22 Zoning Update Committee recognizes it .
23 We ' ve had some discussions with the
24 Town Board even before that about the
25 need to update it . And I think we ' re
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1 all committed after today of -- she did
2 make , you know, one suggestion of
3 striking out some text . Even in the
4 proposed -- in the current law, to
5 really simplify what people are looking
6 at .
7 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Yeah .
8 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : And then
9 having a more medium term solution to
10 really amend the law . I think there
11 was some question with the Town Board
12 whether it was going to be part of the
13 Zoning Code update or something we
14 amend by itself . And I think some of
15 --
16 PATRICIA MOORE : Some urgency to
17 it .
18 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI :
19 Absolutely .
20 PATRICIA MOORE : I mean, I ' m glad
21 you corrected the apartment, the
22 accessory apartment on the three year
23 rule . That was really -- thank you
24 very much . So I ' m glad that this Board
25 is proactive in addressing things that
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1 are problematic without waiting for a
2 lot of study -- you know, that gets
3 other projects .
4 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Yeah,
5 I think we ' re committed to that .
6 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : And
7 Leslie was committed to that and really
8 bringing it to our attention and really
9 outlining just the silliness of some of
10 this .
11 PATRICIA MOORE : Yeah, we have
12 some -- I mean, I have two examples off
13 the top of my head of existing homes .
14 Then the existing homes are considered
15 pre-existing . Well , because of
16 whatever limitations they felt they
17 had, two different homeowners that
18 needed handicap accessibility . One
19 needed an elevator . The other one has
20 a degenerative disease that needs a
21 bedroom on the first floor and some
22 remodeling . It got denied . Both of
23 them got denied . I was shocked that
24 that would be the response . So the
25 architects , they took a long time .
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1 They ' re here . I ' m going to give them
2 the benefit of saying whatever is on
3 their mind because I really appreciate
4 and respect the fact that they ' re here
5 because they ' re the ones who we all
6 rely on . And it ' s really a burdensome .
7 The certification that the Zoning Board
8 has asked of them is , you know,
9 professionally, you know, not really
10 appropriate . But I can turn to them.
11 Thank you .
12 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Thank
13 you . Would anyone else like to speak?
14 DAFYDD SNOWDON JONES : Dafydd
15 Snowdon Jones . I live out in Orient .
16 So I ' ll add to what Pat was sharing .
17 The tax cards that you can pull from
18 the Tax Office, when you actually go
19 in, you can ' t actually read them. And
20 so you have to go into the Tax
21 Assessor ' s Office who reads the pencil
22 writing that ' s on there, and then he ' ll
23 calculate it for you because it ' s not
24 that clear . So even he doesn ' t really
25 know what it is . So this is kind of a
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1 generalization . I ' m wondering how many
2 applications are made for variances or
3 relief on GFA a year, if it could be
4 done on a case-by-case basis . Because
5 if there ' s a blanket formula that
6 really doesn ' t work, you know, if there
7 are thousands of cases . Okay . That ' s
8 just not workable . But is the law
9 fulfilling on what was it put in place
10 for? Because if it ' s not, we need to
11 look at it . If the law was put in
12 place, what was put in place to see if
13 it actually worked? Because if you ' re
14 not revisiting it, you can ' t correct it
15 as you go on . I know with several
16 clients as well , when it comes back and
17 I do the analysis and kind of work out
18 that the formula, and it ' s clear, Pat
19 was sharing this . You just take one
20 large lot with a small home, your
21 formula just doesn ' t add up . So my
22 clients just don ' t want to wait for it .
23 It ' s like it ' s going to be months and
24 months and months . Just put the house
25 on a diet, bring it within the GFA
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1 formula, and we ' ll kind of move on . So
2 the homeowners out here don ' t end up
3 with what they ' re looking for . You
4 know, they would love to have something
5 where in the future they could actually
6 live . You know, they build a home ,
7 they could live on the ground floor in
8 30 years ' time when they can ' t be as
9 mobile . But they can ' t do that . So
10 you ' re taking away -- it ' s not
11 supporting what the people of the Town
12 are actually looking for . So I can
13 speak to this some more, but I think
14 you get the general idea . That it
15 needs to be a change and the simple
16 solution would be maybe it ' s a
17 case-by-case case basis . The last
18 thing I would add is an attorney I ' m
19 working with on one project as well ,
20 Martin Finnegan, had spoken to the Town
21 Attorney who had said to him that every
22 form of relief that they ' d provided
23 based on the GFA average, they ' d gone
24 over the GFA prior to about . I think,
25 three months ago, was actually against
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1 the law . They shouldn ' t have given the
2 relief on that particular thing . So I
3 don ' t know what you could do about
4 that . You can ' t go back and fix it
5 because these homes are now built . So
6 if it ' s against the law, then the law
7 needs to be repealed or modified
8 severely . And maybe a simple solution
9 is , look, we only look at 30 or 40 a
10 year, and we just do it on a
11 case-by-case basis .
12 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Thank
13 you . And again, please call the office
14 tomorrow . We ' ll get you the proposed
15 changes to it .
16 DAFYDD SNOWDON JONES : Thank you .
17 KATE SAMUELS : Hi , I ' m Kate
18 Samuels . I ' m an architect practicing
19 here on the North Fork . Obviously here
20 to talk about the GFA Law and how it ' s
21 kind of unfairly impacting homeowners
22 with small lots in our town . I wanted
23 to share a recent experience that
24 illustrates this . A client of mine who
25 owns a modest home on a quarter acre
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1 lot wanted to make a small and
2 practical improvement to add a second
3 bedroom to the second floor by
4 adjusting the roof framing and creating
5 kind of a new simple gable . You know,
6 nothing extravagant, nothing, you know,
7 not a mansion expansion . No
8 over-developed development . Just a
9 modest change to help her family ' s
10 growing needs . But when we approached
11 the Town, she was told that her home
12 had already reached the gross square
13 footage limit . She needed to embark on
14 a lengthy and costly process , including
15 lawyers , expeditors . At this point,
16 you know, it ' s four to five month wait
17 time , potentially longer at ZBA .
18 Really, just to add a simple bathroom,
19 it was going to take her, you know, all
20 of that time, as well as , you know, the
21 thousands of dollars for lawyers ,
22 expeditors , et cetera . And this is
23 really just one example of many that we
24 find in these small lots . Really,
25 they ' re punishing -- the gross floor
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1 area rules are punishing the very
2 residents most rooted in our community .
3 Those with smaller lots and modest
4 homes . Instead of protecting
5 neighborhood character, these
6 regulations are creating unnecessary
7 red tape, financial burden, and
8 ultimately inequity . So I urge you to
9 really kind of reconsider how this is
10 applied . You know, some of the
11 examples either appeal or, you know,
12 having these, you know, modest changes
13 would really help, you know, my
14 clients . And I think, you know, as
15 well as , you know, still protecting the
16 overdevelopment, but allowing families
17 to make reasonable improvements on
18 their own lots as it stands now . So
19 thank you .
20 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Thank
21 you, Kate . And same offer, call the
22 office . Okay . Anyone can -- you know,
23 please . Because it ' s a better product
24 to get input . So thank you .
25 COUNCILWOMAN ANNE SMITH : It is
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1 absolutely important when we ' re looking
2 at these kinds of changes that we hear
3 from people who are dealing with it
4 every day, because that ' s how we can
5 see it through your eyes . Otherwise,
6 unless we put it in application, we
7 don ' t know . So your expertise when we
8 get something to a Code Committee will
9 continue to be important .
10 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : And also
11 looking back to see exactly how this
12 has been worked out . You know, Leslie
13 brought up an example, I think, similar
14 to the example that you mentioned in
15 the back, where they were going to do a
16 small bathroom and they couldn ' t
17 because there was a cathedral ceiling .
18 So that was counted double . And it ' s
19 really -- the house is exactly the
20 same . It just so happens to have a
21 cathedral ceiling . That wasn ' t the
22 intent of the law, but that ' s how it ' s
23 practically applied . So that really
24 shows that we do need to make a change .
25 So I think any of these examples that
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1 you all have where you -- I think
2 everyone understands the intent of
3 this . So if you can think of examples
4 where the application and the intent
5 don ' t line up, that would be really
6 helpful for us as we ' re looking at
7 where changes need to be made . Because
8 I think -- and I don ' t know how
9 everyone feels about this , but I do
10 believe we need a law like this . It ' s
11 just not this law, the way it ' s
12 written . And I think we need to look
13 at how we ' re going to change it . So
14 any help that we could have with that
15 would make sense and be greatly
16 appreciated . And I would like to add,
17 because I was on the Board when they
18 did pass this , even though most of the
19 work was done by a previous Board, that
20 from the beginning, it was very, very
21 clear that this would need to be
22 revisited in the future . And I think
23 now is the time that we ' re looking back
24 at this and saying what works and what
25 doesn ' t work . And there are clearly a
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1 lot of elements that don ' t work . So
2 look forward to your partnership in
3 revising it . So thank you .
4 JOHN BISCHEL : Good evening . My
5 name is John Bischel . I ' m a resident
6 and a local attorney here . I think if
7 you are considering not scrapping the
8 law, which we really don ' t like , but if
9 that ' s what you ' re doing, please take
10 into account that what we ' re
11 complaining about is really very much
12 part of the intended nature of this
13 law . It directly flows from the intent
14 of this law, all these issues that were
15 brought to your attention . That was
16 the first point . And the second point
17 is that it works also together with the
18 pyramid law . And the two laws together
19 become contradictory . And the
20 combination of the two laws makes it
21 just absolutely insane to work with .
22 So while we understand that the idea is
23 nobody wants to see mic-mansions on
24 smaller lots in our neighborhoods , I
25 don ' t think it worked out that way . I
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1 think it ' s punishing to small people,
2 small people on small lots . And I ' m
3 sure you didn ' t intend that . And I
4 would consider, I would really love it
5 if you would just scrap it and start
6 from scratch, especially since we now
7 are in the process of redoing our
8 zoning law, and we can incorporate in
9 the new zoning law .
10 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Well ,
11 that ' s a suggestion . And that ' s why I
12 look at the proposed revisions . And if
13 we could do that outside of the zoning
14 update, it would be better than waiting
15 for the zoning update to conclude .
16 We ' re in our fourth year . And I don ' t
17 want to be talking about this problem
18 in another four years . So I am
19 certainly committed to trying to get it
20 right .
21 JOHN BISCHEL : I had one final
22 comment that during the different
23 meetings that were held for the zoning
24 update, I spoke to Heather a number of
25 times , and we suggested it would be a
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1 good idea for the people that are
2 working on this project to speak with
3 the people who are working in this
4 field, the expeditors , the architects ,
5 the engineers , and the attorneys . We
6 would welcome that, and I think we
7 would take our time to help you
8 prepare . And we ' ve not heard yet . So
9 I don ' t know where the process stands ,
10 but that ' s my final point . Thank you
11 very much for letting me speak .
12 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . :
13 Appreciate that offer . Thank you .
14 COUNCILMAN BRIAN MEALY : Thank
15 you .
16 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Would
17 anyone else like to address the Board?
18 On the GFA Law?
19 ERIC MCCLURE : I was just going to
20 say I ' m not here to address the GFA
21 law, though .
22 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : That
23 may solve your problem .
24 ERIC MCCLURE : It might . Eric
25 McClure , West View Drive, and
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1 Mattituck . Thanks for everything that
2 you guys do . I just wanted to let you
3 know that Jeff Strong had reached out
4 to me by text last week to say that he
5 would like to meet with me to discuss
6 the sound coming from Strong . So I
7 respectfully told him that I didn ' t
8 think a meeting was necessary, and that
9 he ' d had several years to reach out and
10 do something . He did say he wanted to
11 test sound levels last Friday night .
12 So it turned out my stepmother was in
13 from South Carolina so that we could
14 memorialize my dad this past weekend,
15 who passed away in January . So it was
16 not really good timing anyway . But I
17 did -- I know my neighbor, Audrey, next
18 door had been in contact with Jeff .
19 She said it wasn ' t great . Even what
20 they were -- whatever they were trying
21 to do was still loud in her property,
22 which is next door to mine . I did
23 manage to grab a decimal meter at some
24 point and did see it hitting over the
25 Town Code level at our property . And
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1 same thing Saturday night, which I
2 guess they weren ' t testing anymore .
3 I ' m relieved to see that their season
4 is done . I guess they closed up on
5 Sunday, but I don ' t want to forget
6 about this because of the absence of
7 the noise . I would like to continue to
8 follow up with the Board . I know you
9 guys have a lot going on, but I would
10 like to sit down at some point over the
11 next few weeks just to talk about how
12 we deal with this . We really just
13 would not want to live through it again
14 next year . And I looked at the
15 calendar . So they opened, I think, on
16 May loth . They closed on September
17 21st . I think that ' s 135 days . They
18 had live music more than 80 of those
19 days . So they really, in essence, are
20 being a concert venue that serves food,
21 not a restaurant that has ancillary
22 music . And it ' s Rock and Roll by a
23 live band, loudly amplified, the
24 majority of the nights that are open
25 during the year . Thank you for
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1 listening, and I ' ll look forward to
2 connecting with you at some point in
3 the next few weeks to hopefully talk
4 about this .
5 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : We did
6 ask Mr . Strong to come in, and he did
7 meet with us . I don ' t know if Mr .
8 DeChance would like to summarize the
9 meeting? It seemed like a long time
10 ago . Was that like probably Tuesday?
11 TOWN ATTORNEY PAUL DECHANCE : It
12 may have just been a week or so, but a
13 lot has happened since then .
14 ERIC MCCLURE : I figured he was
15 feeling the heat a little bit, which is
16 why he reached out to me . So thank you
17 for meeting with him.
18 TOWN ATTORNEY PAUL DECHANCE : We
19 did meet with him, the Supervisor and
20 I , as I recall , he again appeared to be
21 willing to work in any way that he
22 could to resolve the matter . He ' s very
23 interested in talking with you . I
24 think that that may be a good thing .
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6 would be happy to attend and I will
7 advise the Supervisor that the meeting
8 is ongoing and he may attend also .
9 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : We ' ll
10 see .
11 TOWN ATTORNEY PAUL DECHANCE :
12 We ' ll see .
13 ERIC MCCLURE : Thank you .
14 COUNCILWOMAN ANNE SMITH : Thank
15 you, Eric .
16 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Does
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19 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : No one
20 on Zoom .
21 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : I ' ll
22 make a motion to adjourn .
23 COUNCILMAN BRIAN MEALY : Second .
24 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : All in
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1 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Aye .
2 COUNCILMAN BRIAN MEALY : Aye .
3 COUNCILWOMAN ANNE SMITH : Aye .
4 JUSTICE LOUISA EVANS : Aye .
5 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Aye .
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3 I , Jessica DiLallo, a Notary
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6 THAT, the within transcript is a
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8 I further certify that I am not
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