HomeMy WebLinkAboutTB-08/12/2004SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
August 12,2004
1:30 P.M.
A Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board was held Thursday, August 12, 2004 at the
Fishers Island High School, Fishers Island, New York. Supervisor Horton opened the meeting at 1:30
P.M. with the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
Present:
Absent:
Supervisor Joshua Y. Horton
Justice Louisa P. Evans
Councilman Thomas H. Wickham
Councilman Daniel C. Ross
Councilman William P. Edwards
Town Clerk Elizabeth A. Neville
Town Attorney Patricia A. Finnegan
Councilman John M. Romanelli
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Good afternoon, at this point we will convene this public meeting of the
Southold Town Board for our annual public meeting of the Southold Town Board on Fishers Island.
First let me extend the Town Board's sincere appreciation for the residents of Fishers Island, for those
of you who are in attendance, for coming to this meeting because without the public it is not a meeting,
it is just a gathering of politicians. So we appreciate that you have made this meeting. Please rise and
join with me in the Pledge of Allegiance. Is Congressman Goss with us today? I asked him to come
and give us a briefing of the CIA. For those of you that don't know that Congressman Goss, a
Representative to the House out of Florida, also is a resident here of Fishers Island and he has just
recently been appointed the Director of the CIA. Nominated, that is correct. So much for formalities.
Before we get started too far, I would like to ask a person to come forward and that is one Ms. Sofie
Malinowski and I had the pleasure of meeting Sofie about one month ago, it was July 15th actually, I
met Sofie. I took a trip over here, I got a ride to Fishers Island from the Bay Constables to come meet
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with Justice Evans and the Board of Directors of the Fishers Island Civic Association. And I walked
into the gym, around 9:00, 9:30 somewhere in that neighborhood, right, Sofie? And I walked into the
gym and there were scores of children in a very organized and sportsman like fashion playing a
number of games here in the gym. And I was, not only was I taken aback by the number of children
here in the gym but it was so quiet outside and there were all these children around. I was more
impressed that every single kid in the gym, what were the ages of those students?
SOFIE MAL1NOWSKI: Eight to eleven.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Eight to eleven. So scores of children from eight to eleven were actively
engaged in a very sportsmanlike fashion in specific sports. And I was just so impressed with their
ability to know where they should be and what they are doing and I was watching the strategy and it
was a fun thing to watch and that was a program hosted by the Island Peoples Project. Is that correct?
And Sofie was one of the counselors, directors, coaches, if you will, that was here working with those
children and I want to bring Sofie forward here because I have a proclamation that I would like to issue
to Sofie. As many of you know, Sofie is a tremendous athlete and has recently been recognized for her
athletic, Sofie has recently been recognized by organizations more important than the Southold Town
Board for her athletic abilities and what I have here is a proclamation and in fact, the original
proclamation will be in a leather cover, will be Federal Expressed to you. We didn't bring it over on
the boat today because we feared it would end up in places like my jacket did, which was on the deck
of the car ferry. So this is a copy of the proclamation. If you would come forward, Sofie, I would
appreciate it. I am going to read this proclamation. I think Sofie really mirrors, this is a representative
of so many that you have from this community that put their heart and a lot of energy and a lot of soul
and commitment into aspiring, worked out goals. Lofty goals and achievements and we want to take
this opportunity to note that Sofie is definitely one of those people that we should recognize, for good
cause.
WHEREAS : the Town
Board of the Town of Southold wishes to recognize $OFIE MALINOWSKI
for her excellent lacrosse career at The Williams School; and
W H E R E A $ : SOFIE exhibits the spirit, dedication,
team work, and sportsmanship ora true champion, holding the school's
seasonal and all-time records for goals scored and leading her team to
the Connecticut Independent Schools Athletic Conference title; and
W H E R E A $ : the importance of the skill, pride, and
commitment of $OFIE~$ coaches, parents, family and team supporters
cannot be overstated as she was en-couraged toward her outstanding
achievements; now, therefore, be it
R E $ 0 L V E D : that the Town Board of the Town of Southold
wishes to congratulate $OFIE MALINOWSKI for her remarkable athletic
success and extend our best wishes for her future at St. Lawrence
University.
DATED : August12, 2004
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Supervisor Joshua Y. Horton
Councilman Thomas H. Wickham
Councilman William P. Edwards
Councilman Daniel C. Ross
Councilman John M. Romanelli
Justice Louisa P. Evans
Town Clerk Elizabeth A. Neville
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Congratulations to you. Sofie, thanks a lot and congratulations, may fair
winds and calmer seas as you embark on you college endeavor. From the looks of the athletes in the
Island Peoples Project, I think you will have many more noteworthy athletes rising up through the
ranks. We will move ahead with the meeting. We have portions of the meeting that are dedicated to
the public and specifically today, we have two portions. One is prior, we offer the floor to the public
to speak to any of the resolutions that are on the printed agenda, that would be resolutions 619 to 623.
After the voting of the resolutions we then again, open the floor to the public to address the Town
Board on town related issues. Prior to moving to resolutions, I think we will go through the process
and quite a process it is because our Town, County and State officials always outnumber the residents
on this trip. If you look around, we have several layers of government and agencies and governmental
institutions represented here today and the true effort behind this representation is actually to give you
folks who live here on the island opportunity to interact in a one-on-one basis with the government
agency of your choice. We have and I am going to read off who is actually here, I won't read specific
names but I will read the agencies that are represented. We have Suffolk County Victims Advocate;
when your title is announced, would you please raise your hand, so you will be identified if a resident
of Fishers Island wants to locate you, the New York Office for the Aging; Newsday is here; the State
of New York Department of Motor Vehicles, the Eastern Long Island director; Town of Southold
Housing Director; Fires Chief Counsel is represented; the Cutchogue Fire Department is represented;
Utopia Homecare; County of Suffolk Division of Real Estate; we have Radio Amateur Communication
Emergency representatives; members of the Southold Town Planning Board; representatives of the
Suffolk County Legislature; representatives of the New York State DEC, Department of
Environmental Conservation, for permits and regional engineer; we have representatives from the
Conservation Advisory Committee; the Town's legal assistants are here, our Town Attorney's; the
Town Comptroller; New York State Archives; Suffolk County Under Sheriff; Trustee of the Village of
Greenport and in a much more official capacity, my mom and when I am playing Supervisor, I get to
call her Gail. Thanks for coming, Gail; we have Suffolk County Health Services; Town Zoning Board
of Appeals; the DEC spills prevention; we have representatives from the Land Preservation
Department; we have representatives from the Town Justice Court; we have a representative from
Congressman Bishop's office; Town Building Department; Southold Town Police Department; Code
Enforcement; Consumer Affairs; we have Suffolk County Fire Academy; Superintendent of Highways,
Peter Harris is here; again New York State Archives; County Offices for the Aging; Southold Town
Department Public Works; New York State Ag and Markets; and I believe if I have missed anybody,
oh, I have missed a lot of people. There is yet another page. We do have representatives from our
Town Accounting Department; Southold Town Conservation Advisory Committee; representatives
from the Town's Board of Trustees. Those people are with us today, should anyone need one-on-one
communication, please take the opportunity now or during the course of the meeting, take them aside
or catch up with them after this meeting and we hope that their presence here is helpful. We will move
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forward with the, excuse me, one more thing before we move forward. I want to thank a bunch of
people. First I want to thank Louisa Evans for helping to coordinate this, Justice Evans. And you
should know that Louisa does a remarkable job of putting in some important issues to the Town Board
that affect Fishers Island as well as participating in issues of town-wide importance. I want to thank
Mike Imbriglio, Mike not only for your participation with the Town Emergency Response team but
also for setting up the equipment that we are making use of today, the audio equipment for this
meeting. So thanks, Mike. I would like to thank Ruthann Woodhull and Joanne Liguori, they are the
direct representatives of my office and in fact, they make my office run. And Joanne and Ruthann, and
I see Lynne Krauza from the Attorney's Department there as well, thank you for setting up this
meeting and allowing for a seamless transition to Fishers Island and a flawless meeting and day here
on the Island. Thank you very much. Members of the Southold Town Highway Department, from
both the Long Island side as well as Highway Department reps from the Fishers Island side. And
many other people who pitched in to make this day a fulfilling and worthwhile day. A great lunch,
great ride over and a lot of us have had good interaction with people here on the Island and it has been
informative for us and we look forward to a productive and informative meeting. I also wanted to
thank the Fishers Island Civic Association Board of Directors for taking the time to meet with me on
July 15th, and I look forward to our quarterly meetings, not only the Board of Directors with FICA but
also in general, in quarterly meetings with Fishers Island residents. That is one commitment that I
made that came out of that meeting. That will yield positive results for Fishers Island in the future and
also be very helpful to the Town Board in our daily business. So now we would move forward with
our resolutions. Are there any members of the public that would like to address the Town Board on
resolutions 619 through 623. If not, we will move ahead with #619.
I. REPORTS
1. Southold Town's Program for the Disabled - July Events
#619
Moved by Councilman Edwards, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Joshua Y. Horton to accept the donation of Nicholas Spofford of a 1985 Chevrolet
F10~ 4 wheel drive~ dark blue truck to the Town of Southold for the purpose of facilitating the non-
toxic mosquito control program on Fishers Island.
JUSTICE EVANS: I just want to point out this is a Fishers Island resident that has donated their truck.
Thank you very much, Bob, that is great.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Absolutely. That goes for on behalf of the entire Town Board, as well,
because we do appreciate that donation.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#62O
Moved by Councilman Ross, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the General Fund
Whole Town 2004 budget as follows:
To:
A. 1680.4.400.400 Computer Consultants $5400.00
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A. 1680.2.400.440 Personal Computers
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
$5400.00
Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
#621
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby amends resolution 615~ adopted
at the August 10~ 2004 regular Town Board meeting~ to read as follows:
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs the Town
Clerk to advertise for two (2) consecutive weeks for the position of Technical Coordinator II for the
Data Processing Department at a salary of $55,377.85.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#622
Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Adam D. Doroski to the
position of Student Intern 1 for the Records Management Department at the rate of $9.54 per hour
effective August 12, 2004.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#623
Moved by Councilman Edwards, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold authorizes and directs Supervisor
Joshua Y. Horton to accept the donation of a handicapped accessible van for use by Southold
Town Senior Services~ from the Estate of Joseph Smith, subject to the approval of the Town
Attorney.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Again, the Southold Town Board would like to thank the estate of Mr.
Smith for the donation of this van. Anything we can do to improve the Human Services in this Town
is crucial and we appreciate the help.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Before we move forward, I also want to take the opportunity to thank, I
believe I see them in the audience, Chip DuPont and Tom Dougherty for meeting with the Town Board
this morning. They provided thorough review of what I know to be a long, complex and to kind of put
it, difficult process to undertake and we appreciate the updates to the Town Board and we also
appreciate your leadership in helping to bring that project to fruition. At this point, we do open the
floor to the public to address the Town Board on town related business and we just ask that in doing
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so, when you address the Board, you state your name and place of residence clearly into the
microphone so that we can incorporate that into our records. Would anyone care to address the Board?
DOM1NICK N1NIVAGGI, SUPERINTENDENT, VECTOR CONTROL: I am Dominick Ninivaggi, I
am the Superintendent of Vector Control and Public Works and I thought it would be remiss of me not
to thank Mr. Spofford for the donation of the vehicle to use in the mosquito control program and to
thank the Town, Fishers Island Conservancy, for their cooperation in making this program happen. It
is very unique and it couldn't happen without the cooperation we receive.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Thank you, Mr. Ninivaggi. Would anybody else care to address the
Board? I see my mom heading up to the mike. What did I do?
GAlL HORTON: My name is Gail Horton, I am at 727 First Greenport, New York. And I really
don't want to address the Board, I want to (inaudible) and the residents of Fishers Island. When I
came here I didn't come for the work session, I got a ride around Fishers Island and was at an
inspection of your new museum. And I have to tell you, it blew my socks off. It is absolutely
incredible and I have to praise your community for respecting your history so much. If we respect our
history and know it, our future is usually pretty good. And then the other thing, many years ago when
I was on the Village Board, I came over, I think Mr. Harris was the Supervisor then, and I came over to
this annual meeting. I spoke to people and I think I see a few of you, concerning Walsh Park. It had
not been constructed, it was in the planning stage and I had quite a bit of experience with affordable
housing so I was also taken there today on that tour and I am very impressed with that and I think you
need a big hand on both projects and I was very glad to be here today. Thank you.
SPEEDY METTLER: My name is Speedy Mettler, I am the past president of the Fishers Island Civic
Association and I wanted to ask you on behalf of all of the residents, and I live in New York City, as
well as here. I would like to ask you on behalf of all the residents of Fishers Island, would you please
explain why the Town Board removed the Fishers Island representative from the Zoning Board? Also,
that there are rumors around that our representative on the Planning Board is also going to be removed.
I am hoping that Louisa Evans won't be the third casualty here. But I think this community would like
an explanation because assuming they are going to continue to tax us, we would expect to be
represented. And you know, it is just very confusing. This is a perfect opportunity at a public forum,
for all the people who could not be here, to either explain to all of us because we really don't
understand what happened, why and where you are headed with all of this because it is quite a shock to
many of us. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Thank you. We actually, we had a, I think it was quite a productive work
session about half an hour ago and we adjourned but over the course of that work session, one of the
things that we discussed and we, I had this discussion with the Board of Directors of Fishers Island
Civic Association and what that discussion was centered around, first let me address, you mentioned,
you referred to a rumor. There was a rumor about a Planning Board member, Mr. Edwards, the
Planning Board member from Fishers Island being removed. That is a rumor because that has not been
a discussion on the Town Board at all, so that is clearly a rumor. I understand where that rumor may
have come from but it is clearly a rumor and conjecture. But in the overall sense of this, I will just
explain in as detailed terms as I can, the conversation that we had in the Board today. And that is,
what is the best mechanism for providing true representation at the Town Board level, at the Town
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government, I should say, to the residents of Fishers Island. And a couple of ideas and I think the
Town Board will take action on them and I will name them off now; that we think will help improve
communication and representation to the residents of Fishers Island are as follows: 1. The Town
Board is considering, I don't know if consultant is the right word, we will just say a person from
Fishers Island, a resident of Fishers Island to communicate directly with all the Boards involving land
use in Southold Town, that would be the Zoning Board of Appeals, the elected Board of Trustees
(because you don't have a dedicated member on the Board of Trustees, either and Fishers Island is a
highly, is a critical and sensitive wetlands area and we feel you could use better representation with the
Board of Trustees) and so the conflict was discussed today and I think there was overwhelming support
on the Board for this, that is, a person to deal with all the land use Boards in Southold Town from
Fishers Island, to provide direct input. Local knowledge and information that is representative of the
residents of Fishers Island to those various Boards. I have recommended that idea just in regard to the
Zoning Board of Appeals but I think there is wisdom in the concept of having, as you do have a
legislator from Fishers Island that is elected town-wide to help guide the Town Board, we think that a
representative from Fishers Island could be beneficial to the residents of Fishers Island, also beneficial
to the various Boards of Town government and in that we think that that idea has to be taken maybe
even beyond the Zoning Board of Appeals so there is a representative that could speak directly to the
Trustees, that understand Fishers Island in the way that only Fishers Island resident could understand
it. As well, a commitment that I am willing to make, I feel very strongly about, is that if there is a
Zoning Board of Appeals application or a Planning Board application from Fishers Island, regardless
of how big or small, how controversial, if there is an application that requires a public hearing, I don't
think in anybody's good conscience, we can expect the residents of Fishers Island to come to Southold
Town Hall on a Wednesday night in February, to a public hearing. It simply doesn't make sense and it
simply doesn't give the residents of Fishers Island an opportunity to weigh in on what could be a very
sensitive and important matter to the community. So I would implore and I would work with both the
Planning Board and the Zoning Board of Appeals, to provide those public hearing opportunities here
on Fishers Island. Now, is that every application? I don't know. I would look for the guidance of
Justice Evans and members of the ZBA and Planning Board but I think the Town can do a much better
job of having hearings that are specific to Fishers Island on Fishers Island because again, the
Wednesday night in February scenario in Southold Town Hall just doesn't make sense for the average
Fishers Island resident. And I think we, I think there is commitment from the Board to put
infrastructure and mechanisms in place to provide that opportunity and I think that would be very
helpful. And the other thing that was brought to the attention of Justice Evans was, in regard to, let's
say for example, Mr. Edwards position on the Planning Board, Justice Evans brought it to our attention
that in order for Mr. Edwards to more fully participate and I believe that he does the best that he can
with his given time with the resources that are available but to more fully participate with Southold
Town Planning Board that the budgetary, there are budgetary issues to be addressed and that is
providing the budgetary resources for Mr. Edwards to travel back and forth. That is quite a
commitment and we recognize that commitment that he has to make, so to put those budgetary
resources, those financial resources in place to, and also technology was mentioned in regard to the
possibility of teleconferencing, so Mr. Edwards would have that opportunity to more directly partake
in weekly meetings with the Planning Board. So these are things that the Town Board takes very
seriously and that you will see moving on in the upcoming months. Yes, ma'am.
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UNIDENTIFIED: Everything you said sounds good but you still haven't explained to us why you
removed our representative from the ZBA who was doing a more than adequate job. He was doing a
terrific job.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Right.
UNIDENTIFIED: I for one was a victim, in fact, (inaudible) I had to go back to Long Island three
times, sorry, four times over the past nine months in order to get a zoning appeal, permit and properly
build it. Because of the confusion, no one on the Board understood it, there was (inaudible) and I have
to tell you, the ZBA doesn't meet on Wednesday nights anymore. It meets on Thursday during the day
and it is very easy for a Fishers Island representative or a Fishers Island person who wants to be at that
meeting to get there and get back the same day.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Okay. I appreciate ....
UNIDENTIFIED: So I disagree with your (inaudible).
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Thanks a lot. I appreciate your comments and there is certainly room for
disagreement in the discussion. And I think each member of the Town Board had their own reason for
why they would make an appointment to a Board, whether it be the Zoning Board of Appeals,
Planning Board, appointment to the Land Preservation Commission. I mean, as elected representatives
of the Town, that is one of the sacred rights that we have as legislators, is to make appointments that
we feel will fairly reflect the government that the Board wants to see implemented and I for one felt
that I elected to put Mr. DiNizio on the Zoning Board of Appeals because I thought Mr. DiNizio
brought a tremendous wealth and we can disagree on this and I, you know, I appreciate and accept that
but I thought that Mr. DiNizio brings a wealth of knowledge and balance from his view that I thought
was crucial at this point in Southold Town history to the Zoning Board of Appeals. And I feel very
strongly about that. And that is why, I for one, made this decision. But again, I think that we can deal
more directly with the bigger issue, which is the voice of Fishers Island and that is, I think, the voice of
Fishers Island can be more clearly heard, more fairly represented by a person who is dedicated
specifically to Fishers Island to interact with our Boards and land use agencies. And you will see the
Town Board take those steps.
JUSTICE EVANS: Can I just say a few words on that?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Certainly.
JUSTICE EVANS: I did not vote to have George Horning moved off the Board but I do think that it is
important that we move on from there. I would love to have a representative back on the Board, I am
not sure that we will with the present makeup of the Board. But I also think it important not to just
have someone to be able to take the Fishers Island point of view over to the Town, I think it is
important that the person also knows what the ZBA does, knows the laws of the ZBA. Knows the laws
of the Planning Board does, knows what their mission is, so that the people out here benefit from their
knowledge, too. So I think just having a person on the Island to take knowledge to those Boards isn't
good enough. I think we need some, or several people, that can play the dual role, not only taking the
information over but providing information back here on how those department, those Boards work.
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SUPERVISOR HORTON: I think most of the Board shares Justice Evans sentiment. Would anybody
else care to address the Board on town related issues? If not, we will be around for probably another
45 minutes. You can take us aside one-on-one and speak with us. We are here, we have the time. Yes,
sir.
UNIDENTIFIED: I just want to follow up with one more question, it is not related to what you
already addressed. I would like to get a clarification because I have not been on a civic board in a
couple of years but maybe you can explain to us all, I understand there is a clip tax on real estate. A 2
% tax that we pay when we sell our real estate on this Island, when it changes hands. I would like to
know does any of that money ever come back to Fishers Island and if so, in what form?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: There are properties in Fishers Island, that is a town wide tax. That
applies to, and I believe each of the five East End towns has it, it is called a 2 %, it is called Peconic
Transfer Tax. That is it. It has several different names, but it is a 2 % real estate transfer tax and that
transfer tax funds, in large part, in addition to many state and federal grants that we have been able to
get over the last couple of years; funds in large part, preservation efforts. And one thing, another
reason we brought Land Preservation, members of our Land Preservation Department and Land
Preservation Commission here today is because we think it is important that residents of Fishers Island
make it very clear, if there are properties that can be preserved through this fund, that fund will be used
to preserve those properties. To date, the Town Board has not turned down a single land preservation
opportunity. If one comes from Fishers Island, it will be quickly acted on through the Land
Preservation Commission and Land Preservation Department, in conjunction with the Town Board.
There have been preservation projects here on Fishers Island but I believe most of them have been
private, through conservation easements. Through the museum, through private efforts and Fishers
Island .....
JUSTICE EVANS: Peter Burr is our representative on the Land Preservation Committee and I don't,
maybe Peter can speak to some of the problems. I don't think it is the Town is not willing, I think we
need to find people on the Island that are interested in participating in this program but Peter might ....
PETER BURR, LAND PRESERVATION COMMITTEE: Let me just correct, Land Preservation has
been very helpful and very accommodating to our needs. My guess is that Fishers Island has probably
generated close to $1,000,000 of 2% money since its inception and it is true that we have not done a
deal, if you will, with Land Preservation since that time but not because of Land Preservation or the
Town having any difficulties, it is the fact that we haven't brought anything to the table for us to
review on the Land Preservation Committee. So the issue is, that the last transaction, as Supervisor
Horton said, was probably the Fitzgerald property, which was done with similar money except it was
prior to the 2% approval, if you will. So that was a transaction that generated about $345,000 I think
was the number on the table for the Fitzgerald property but short of that, Speedy, we have had a couple
of applications that still have not been pursued and we have had conversations with people on both
ends of the Island, we have done an easement. The Nielsen easement was done within the last 12
months, that was a donation to the Town, no money was required and so I think probably it is
incumbent on us and the homeowners and those that own the land, if they are interested in this kind of
transaction, we are prepared to receive it.
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JUSTICE EVANS: I think many people are a little leery of selling property to the Town but there are
mechanisms out there, the Nielsen's property was a gift. The Town doesn't own that, it is an
easement, they cannot develop on that piece of property and that is what Peter has been working with
property owners on, selling easements so that there is no more development of properties. We are
fortunate to have the museum and other organizations out here that do that already but there is money
in the Town and I think if people are interested or know someone that might want to do that, they
should contact Peter and he can help you out with it, as well as the rest of our Land Preservation
Department.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Right. It is a, as far as getting involved with the program and getting
information about it, that information is extremely accessible on the Town's website. You do have a
rep from Fishers Island, Mr. Burr and also my office is accessible to point you in the right direction.
But the Town is very willing and we actually have made several communications or urgings to Louisa,
to see how we can raise awareness to bring landowners to the table. We are very willing and excited to
do some preservation work out here. Most recently, I think it was a year ago, at this meeting a year
ago, we announced in appreciation the private easement that was done by a landowner. And that is
how most of the conservation has taken place here on Fishers Island, so it is taking its natural course
that way. But we are here to further promote that. Are there any other .... yes, sir?
PETER BRINCKERHOFF: Peter Brinckerhoff, resident of Fishers Island and Riverside, Connecticut.
Plum Island, it was sort of in the news with the book about 257. There are various points of view as to
the merits of the facility but there seems to be some concern about the safety issues there. Can you
enlighten us in regard to, has the Town Board taken any of these issues under advisement to try get the
Federal government to pay attention to the concerns of people within the radius that seems to be 25
miles?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Yes, thank you for bringing that up. My efforts over the past few years
and quite frankly for the first time and as generation of Plum Island, it has been 20 years, I have
brought our Federal delegates, our United States Senators and all of the Congressional delegation in
the House on Long Island, I have brought those people, I have brought Plum Island onto their radar.
As you understand, Plum Island is a federally regulated and federally owned and operated facility, so
our jurisdiction there is minimal but I have made it my business, because I am a supporter of Plum
Island, I have worked at Plum Island, Plum Island employs more than 100 people in Southold Town. It
generates more than 25 million dollars in economic benefit in their contribution to the Town through
various services and the work that takes place in Plum Island. Also it provides what I personally
believe as significant national security to our domestic food production. So I have made it my business
to become very, to open up the lines of communication with Plum Island in a way that they haven't
been opened up before. One thing that Plum Island has fallen victim to over the years and it may be
their own fault or not, I don't know, I can't speak to that but I know that Plum Island has been a
political punching bag when politicians don't have an issue to forge ahead on. That is one of the ugly
tendencies of politicians sometimes but to that end, two years ago about, it was two years ago this
month, a number of experienced workers from Plum Island went out on strike and they went out on
strike because the contractor at Plum Island wasn't negotiating in good faith. And the Federal
government, in my view, subsidized that strike, to bring unskilled, inexperienced workers to run the
facility. I took a very strong stand on that and I actually managed to get a personal meeting with
Secretary Vennemann's undersecretary, to bring his attention to, to bring this issue to the Federal
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government. Within a month of that meeting the contractor that was there at the time was relieved, a
new contractor to run the facility was brought in (tape change) back to work not only because they live
in Southold Town and they are a part of our community but because they are the people who know the
facility. They are the people that are trained there and worked there for many, many years and as a
result, I believe it was imperative to have those people back to work. And since Plum Island has come
under the Department of Homeland Security, millions of dollars have been sunk into security there.
And instead of me speaking to the specifics of it because I am not an authority and I don't feel I would
fairly represent the upgrades and improvements that have been made in the facility, what I will offer,
extend to anybody here is get in touch with me through Louisa, Justice Evans, I will ensure that either
the Director of Plum Island comes here and has a Fishers Island meeting with you to answer all of your
questions or I can arrange for as many residents as would like to, to actually take a trip to Plum Island
and meet not only with the centers Director but also the scientists and the staff that run the facility. I
can make either of those two or both happen and I am happy to do it. I think it would be very
beneficial to both the residents and to the Island. I haven't read Lab 257. I know a lot of people that
were mentioned in it.
MR. BRINCKERHOFF: It was a good read. Thank you very much for what you have done and for
the offers.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Absolutely. And hopefully, we can .... I hope you take me up on that
because I would like to see if we can get the Centers Director over here to meet with you and speak
and maybe she can bring some of her scientists who actually explain the work that goes on there in full
detail.
MR. BRINCKERHOFF: I will get in touch with Louisa.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Wonderful. Thank you very much. Would anyone else care to address the
Board? Yes, ma'am.
CYNTHIA RILEY: Cynthia Riley. I am vice-president of (inaudible) so thank you for the little, kind
words about my (inaudible) earlier. Regarding Plum Island, I know at one time they had their own fire
department, fully trained in bio-hazard and the idiosyncriosies of the site and the last I knew, they had
one fire fighter on Island. Is there any role that Southold would have to take if a fire broke out on
Plum Island and are Southold firefighters equipped to deal with that?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Two things that I can I can, I will address to the best of my ability. One,
Plum Island has beefed up their, you are right, there was a point of time in the 90's where the
Emergency Services specific to Plum Island were greatly reduced. I believe the Federal government
has more fully funded a program to provide those services on Plum Island. One thing and I see Bob
Scott is here, not only is he a Tax Assessor for the Town but he is an Orient resident and also a
longtime member of the Orient Fire Department, as you know, Southold is comprised of several fire
departments, Orient through Laurel. And so it would be the Orient Fire Department that, if in the
event there were a need for mutual aid, it would be the Orient Fire Department that would be first in
line to provide that and I have worked with the Chief of the Orient Fire Department through
Congressman Bishop's office to provide inter-agency training and enhanced communication if in the
event Orient was called to assist. Because Orient, very rightfully so, took the position: we are not
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equipped; we are not trained, we are not knowledgeable about how to fight a fire inside a facility on
Plum Island and I think the Federal government heard them loud and clear and I think what they have
done is work to increase their own fire protection services and open the line of communication with the
Orient Fire Department. I don't think they are 100% there yet but I think there is significant
movement in the right direction there.
MS. RILEY: The other thing that you said, you are a supporter of Plum Island. Fine, I understand the
economic benefits to individuals in the Town and the Town of Southold and of course, if we are
learning things in the facility that can help protect our livestock, that is great. The one thing I have had
a hard time getting is actually a handle on the diseases that we have managed to contain because of
Plum Island or the vaccines. Plum Island won't return my calls but I would think it would be
interesting to see what in the last 10 years came out of Plum Island that actually does protect our
livestock.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Absolutely. And that gets back to the recommendation that I made, which
would be have the Center's director either come here or a number of residents go there. Either way or
both. I think that you should see the presentation that they are capable of giving to describe the work,
the intricate and important work that goes on, on Plum Island. And I think that you would be best
served by having these people, these scientists at Plum Island, explain it to you, not me.
MS. RILEY: If we want to set up such a thing, you will assist us in setting it up?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: I will set it up for you.
MS. RILEY: Okay.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Just tell me when and where and how many. Would anyone else care to
address the Board? (No response) Well, we certainly appreciate the opportunity to be here. Again,
please keep in touch with my office. You can do it through Louisa, you can call me directly, you can
e-mail me, many of you have my e-mail address, I have corresponded with many of you. Again, we do
appreciate the opportunity to be here. We do appreciate the input and I think that this was a productive
meeting for us and I hope it was productive for you. And again, congratulations in advance for your
terminal in New London. We look forward to pulling in and stepping foot on the new terminal in the
winter or the spring. So thank you very much. We look forward to speaking with you soon. I will be
over here on a quarterly basis, you can communicate with Louisa as to when I will be here, if you want
to meet up with me and get in touch on your own turf. Thanks.
Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Supervisor Horton, it was
RESOLVED that this Town Board meeting be and hereby is declared recessed.
Elizabeth A. Neville
Southold Town Hall