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1 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK : STATE OF NEW YORK
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TOWN BOARD
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7 Southold, New York
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16 ALBERT KRUPSKI JR, SUPERVISOR
17 LOUISA P . EVANS, JUSTICE
18 JILL DOHERTY, COUNCILWOMAN
19 GREG DOROSKI , COUNCILMAN
20 BRIAN O . MEALY, COUNCILMAN
21 ANNE H . SMITH, COUNCILWOMAN
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1 PUBLIC COMMENTS
2 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : That
3 is the regular agenda . Is there anyone
4 here would like to address the Board on
5 any matter?
6 DINNI GORDON : Good evening . I ' m
7 Dinni Gordon, representing the new
8 Greenport Housing Committee . I want to
9 say I ' m so delighted that you passed
10 the resolution to create the IMA for
11 Greenport participation with Southold
12 in the activities of the Greenport --
13 of the Southold Housing Plan . And I
14 also wanted to say that I thought the
15 meeting of the two Boards was just
16 terrific . It was a successful bringing
17 together of interests that we all have .
18 And another thing that came up at the
19 meeting that I ' m just encouraging you
20 to keep an eye on is the possibility of
21 a -- in fact, I think was suggested
22 that it would be done, a draft of a
23 letter to apply for the Long Island
24 Forward Housing Program, program which
25 will provide -- I ' m just assuming that
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1 Southold would be accepted into this ,
2 technical assistance of various kinds ,
3 economic, traffic . All sorts of
4 things , that could help both the Town
5 of Southold and the Village of
6 Greenport to move forward on figuring
7 out how we can develop more housing .
8 And I ' m of course particularly
9 interested in the Greenport Hamlet, as
10 well as , in the Village . And I think
11 that moving toward some forms of
12 multi-family housing is not going to
13 happen unless we get some help in
14 analyzing the possibilities . So I hope
15 that such a letter is being drafted and
16 will be a subject for future meetings .
17 Thank you very much .
18 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Thank
19 you . Thank you for coming and thank
20 you for your advocacy in that
21 department, because the Town is -- now
22 we do have a little bit of money,
23 thanks to the Community Housing Fund .
24 We have spent years trying to formulate
25 how to do this appropriately . I ' ve met
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1 a number of times with the other East
2 End supervisors to try to put our heads
3 together and to try to, it ' s a regional
4 problem . We ' re all trying to figure it
5 out on our own, but learning from each
6 other ' s experiences . In fact, we are
7 actually getting together at a Long
8 Island Association breakfast tomorrow
9 to talk about, among other things ,
10 housing .
11 DINNI GORDON : Great .
12 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : So
13 this is , it ' s a big topic . It ' s very
14 important for our communities , but your
15 involvement ' s very important . You need
16 to advocate . You need to be involved
17 and it ' s , we find that very helpful .
18 So thank you .
19 DINNI GORDON : Well , some people
20 think that I occasionally am pushy . So
21 I will continue to be pushy on this
22 important subject . Thank you so much .
23 COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY : Can I ask
24 you to make sure that the Village sends
25 us that information on that because
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1 they were going to I don ' t believe we
2 got it . Unless the Clerk got it
3 because Anna and I were waiting to
4 receive the information on that .
5 DINNI GORDON : Okay . I will take
6 care of that tomorrow .
7 COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY : We don ' t we
8 don ' t have contact . We don ' t -- we
9 don ' t have , a, you know, address or
10 anything so .
11 DINNI GORDON : Okay . No, I have a
12 lot of that . Will overwhelm you with
13 paper . Thank you .
14 COUNCILMAN BRIAN MEALY : Dinni , I
15 just wanted to add I don ' t see you as
16 pushy . I call you professor . I call
17 you author . So you engage community
18 member and decent human being and you
19 being at the head of their efforts for
20 housing . I have no doubt of the
21 success that will come , and I just
22 appreciate what you do . You say it
23 politely and kindly and courageously .
24 It took courage to come to speak to us .
25 Collectively we may be imposing, but
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1 we ' re not -- we ' re just trying to be
2 good community members and I see that
3 in you and I appreciate that in you .
4 MICHAEL ZWEIG : Thank you . Good
5 evening . My name is Michael Zweig .
6 I ' m in Peconic, and I ' m here -- Al
7 suggested that I come by after
8 conversations that we ' ve had, that he
9 thought it ' d be useful for me to
10 present this situation, and
11 recommendations to the Board and to the
12 public who ' s here . So I want to thank
13 you, Al , for that suggestion . What I
14 want to do is really call the Board ' s
15 attention to some developments that are
16 going on a national scale that usually
17 are not part of the discussion or the
18 consideration of a local Board
19 anywhere . But when there are
20 developments on a national scale that
21 have clear implications for us here,
22 then I think it is appropriate for us
23 to pay attention . And in particular,
24 this recent legislation that ' s just
25 passed Congress , I think will have very
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1 important consequences for us here .
2 And that it ' s important for us as a
3 community to recognize that and to
4 respond appropriately . In particular,
5 the Medicaid cuts are going to be
6 draconian . And while that is a problem
7 all over the country, it ' s a problem
8 here . It ' s a problem for our own
9 community because there are many, many
10 people -- I don ' t know the exact
11 number, but we can find out, but it ' s
12 certainly a significant number who will
13 be cut off of Medicaid . And not only
14 will that affect them, but it ' ll affect
15 Eastern Long Island Hospital . It ' ll
16 affect ( inaudible) because when those
17 funds are removed, those facilities
18 will be stressed . Eastern Long Island
19 has connections to Stony Brook
20 Hospital . I ' m a retired professor at
21 Stony Brook . I can tell you from my
22 union, United University Professions ,
23 it ' s an AFT local , we follow what ' s
24 going on in our bargaining unit . The
25 hospitals are extremely stressed now
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1 for a whole variety of reasons that we
2 don ' t have to rehearse here . But I
3 wanna call that to your attention that
4 we can ' t just rely on Stony Brook
5 University and the State of New York to
6 bail out Eastern Long Island Hospital .
7 And San Simeon doesn ' t have any kind of
8 other lifeline . So I think when we ' re
9 looking at this national development,
10 we really need to pay very close
11 attention to what its consequences are
12 here . That also affects the SNAP
13 benefits . And in particular, I ' m
14 concerned about the ICE raids and the
15 attack on the immigrant communities .
16 Because that also threatens our
17 community here . In agriculture , in
18 restaurants , in a number of industries
19 here , there ' s real fear . People, you
20 know, yesterday, there was an armed
21 invasion of a park in Los Angeles where
22 there was camp kids that were playing
23 in the park . That was all that was
24 going on in the park, and all of these
25 Ice and other military militarized
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1 forces invaded this park just as a show
2 of force . That generates fear all over
3 the country . We might not have that
4 going on in Mitchell Park, but I can
5 tell you that that is a fear that is
6 very intensely felt by our neighbors
7 here , particularly who are immigrants .
8 That that is a very, very serious
9 matter for our community, and I think
10 that we and you as the Board, as our
11 political representatives , have some
12 responsibility and some obligation to
13 respond to that in some productive and
14 constructive way, which I will get to
15 in a moment . We also see a real
16 disregard for the courts , a disregard
17 for Congress . A disregard for due
18 process . It ' s a very, very serious
19 matter that ' s going on nationally that
20 is gonna have very severe consequences
21 here if it gets consolidated . The kind
22 of authoritarianism that we ' re looking
23 at, once it gets consolidated, is very,
24 very hard to overthrow . Very hard to
25 reverse it . So I think that we really
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1 need to take steps now to recognize
2 those threats , recognize those dangers ,
3 and act accordingly, and act
4 accordingly happens to be available to
5 us . There is a new development .
6 Starting earlier this year . It ' s
7 called the Beacon . It started in New
8 York City, and it very soon spread all
9 over the country, including here in
10 Greenport . Every Thursday night from
11 7 : 00 to 7 : 30 , I and many other people
12 go stand in Greenport, if we ' re around,
13 and we invite you to come too . Because
14 it ' s important for the public, for
15 people to see , and in particular people
16 who can ' t stand for themselves , the
17 immigrants and people who are living in
18 fear . It ' s important for them to see
19 that you and we are with them and
20 recognize the fear and the danger that
21 they are in, and we stand with them. A
22 very simple thing of just standing on
23 the street, on front street or third
24 street, crossing the office every
25 Thursday, and what that does is it
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1 shows the community . That we as a
2 community recognize the very, very
3 difficult situation that the country is
4 in, that our community is in, that our
5 neighbors feel , and that we are
6 standing with them. I can tell you
7 myself standing that there ' s a lot of
8 thumbs up, a lot of horn honking, a lot
9 of people happy to see that there is
10 this kind of response to the situation
11 that the country is in and its
12 consequences in our community . So it ' s
13 completely nonviolent . It ' s based on
14 Gandhian nonviolent principles that we
15 study . There ' s , you know, we have a
16 kind of a code that is
17 non-confrontational . Yes , there are
18 people who come by who say, you guys
19 are a bunch of commies , we ' re not
20 interested, get the hell out of here .
21 Well , we don ' t confront that . We don ' t
22 go and get into arguments . That ' s not
23 the point . The point is to stand and
24 to express ourselves and to find our
25 own community, which we invite you to
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1 participate in . And I am here just to
2 do that and to make that invitation on
3 behalf of that standing . And I don ' t
4 know if it ' d be all right for me to
5 just come and give you all a flyer
6 that ' s got a QR code, how that is best
7 distributed to you .
8 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : You
9 can give them to the Clerk, and he can
10 distribute them to us , you know, later .
11 MICHAEL ZWEIG : Thank you . So
12 thank you very much . And I hope to see
13 you all be out on Thursday on Front
14 Street and third, not fire police,
15 but --
16 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Thank
17 you, Michael .
18 COUNCILMAN BRIAN MEALY : Thank
19 you . I just wanted to thank you for
20 what you said, Mr . Zweig . And I want
21 to assure you, the town is involved and
22 I am the liaison to the Antibias Task
23 Force . And I want you to know that
24 you ' re welcome to the Antibias Task
25 Force to talk about these . And that
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1 the Antibias Task Force is actively
2 discussing this and trying to develop
3 support for the people who this harms .
4 And then we ' re also in awareness of
5 groups like HOLA who are trying to
6 develop supportive programs . So I
7 don ' t want you to think that the Town
8 has not been engaged from day one from
9 all this unfortunate business . The
10 Antibias Task Force has been discussing
11 it, and trying to develop support
12 networks and trying to dispel the fear
13 and even trying to train people how to
14 respond to the certain things that go
15 through the community . That is really
16 trying to send a jolt of fear . And how
17 do you, you shouldn ' t ever try to tell
18 somebody not to be fearful if they have
19 a legitimate concern, but how do you
20 support them? And certainly that ' s
21 what the Antibias Task Force has done .
22 MICHAEL ZWEIG : That ' s very good
23 and I ' m very appreciative of the work,
24 but it ' s also important to stand
25 publicly .
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1 COUNCILMAN BRIAN MEALY : Yes .
2 MICHAEL ZWEIG : It ' s also
3 important to be in the public arena,
4 not just passing resolutions or going
5 to different meetings , but to really be
6 out there . Because people see it .
7 People recognize it . People respond to
8 it, and I am inviting you all as
9 elected officials to exercise that
10 responsibility . Every once in a while
11 come on down to Greenport, Thursday,
12 7 : 00 to 7 : 30 , Front Street in Third .
13 Hope to see you there .
14 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Thank
15 you .
16 GEORGE LAMAGA : Good evening . I ' m
17 George LaMaga from Mattituck . Number
18 1 , I ' ve heard a lot of good things
19 today . A lot of things that I wanted
20 to say . You guys already were saying
21 some of it, but I want to add more .
22 I ' m hearing invites , and I ' ve got an
23 invite for the Board . And the invite
24 is 4th of July, 2026 . It ' s the 250th
25 of the country, and it ' s on a Saturday .
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1 And I invite you to come to my house
2 for a party . And after a party, maybe
3 we can take a walk down to the beach by
4 my house . Do you know where I live?
5 Everybody? Anybody knows where I live?
6 COUNCILMAN BRIAN MEALY : I went to
7 your son ' s birthday party 40 years ago,
8 so I know where you live .
9 GEORGE LAMAGA : I live on Merriam
10 Road in Mattituck, and it ' s a walk to
11 the beach down Inlet Drive to a Town
12 park or Town beach . And you can go
13 west on that beach to the other end of
14 the Town beach . But can I show you
15 something? What happens every year on
16 the 4th of July on that beach? Am I
17 allowed to do that? I have a video
18 showing very --
19 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Sure,
20 sure .
21 GEORGE LAMAGA : Who wants to see
22 it first? It goes -- it ' s my wife ' s
23 phone . I got a good idea she says .
24 Make sure she gets it back .
25 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : You ' re
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1 lucky you got a hold of it .
2 TOWN ATTORNEY PAUL DECHANCE : Sir,
3 may ask you is there anything explicit
4 on that video that you ' re going to --
5 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Show
6 the Town Attorney first to know that
7 you can prove that .
8 (Whereupon, Mr . LaMaga approached
9 the dais . )
10 GEORGE LAMAGA : Well , I can tell
11 you, you got to listen . All right . I
12 stop out of my front house from my door
13 and that ' s down on the beach every
14 year . This year, it started at 9 : 00
15 and went to 10 : 00 . Okay . It just goes
16 on and on . And as I said, it happens
17 every year . It happens every year . I
18 guess we all know it ' s illegal for
19 fireworks , right? So what I ' m
20 wondering, what if I went down there, I
21 close by, and walked the beach . There
22 are piping clovers nesting there .
23 There are osprey nests down there .
24 Their perch . What would happen if I
25 walked that beach and this was going
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1 on, folks ? The sound and the
2 pyrotechnics , the smell after the
3 sulfur? The debris that goes into the
4 water happens every year . Every year
5 gets worse . This year was the worst .
6 Honestly, it was the worst . Can you
7 expect when you guys all come for the
8 party on 250th, what it ' s going to be
9 like ? What do we do?
10 COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY : Can I ask
11 this stupid question? Did you call the
12 police?
13 GEORGE LAMAGA : Every year . Every
14 year . I ' m not going to tell you what
15 happens . I feel bad doing it . I go
16 see Granten, and talk to him . I talked
17 to him the weeks before the DEC . I
18 talked to him . I talked to the groups .
19 It just got to stop . Can ' t keep going
20 on . That ' s all I ' m going to say . Why
21 does it have to go on all the time ?
22 Shouldn ' t the fireworks be permitted?
23 I have no problem if they put it on the
24 farm . No problem. I love fireworks .
25 My kids , my grand kids love it . But I
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1 shouldn ' t have to go out of my house
2 for an hour listening to that, hearing
3 that sound . My wife ' s got that, you
4 know, stuff you put on the window with
5 the suction cups . It vibrates . The
6 mortise , it vibrates in the house . And
7 I ' m above . I ' m above . But it ' s on a
8 beach . Sound Beach Drive . And it ' s
9 from inlet to Sound Beach Drive . We ' re
10 allowed to walk on a beach . What would
11 happen to me if I got hurt, folks ?
12 What do we do? How do we how do we
13 work with this ?
14 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : We ' ll
15 ask the police commissioners . We ' ll
16 have to have that conversation . There
17 was no doubt, we were down at the
18 beach, looking at a permitted fireworks
19 display on the 4th .
20 GEORGE LAMAGA : Over at Nassau
21 Point?
22 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Yes .
23 GEORGE LAMAGA : Yeah, I know about
24 that .
25 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : And
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1 they were around the whole bay . It ' s
2 all ringed with fireworks all the way
3 around both towns .
4 GEORGE LAMAGA : What I don ' t
5 understand is , why can ' t we, as a Town,
6 put it on the radio and say, hey guys ,
7 fireworks are legal . As long as
8 they ' re permitted, we ' re okay . This
9 hour to this hour . Why can ' t we have
10 the groups in my neighborhood, we put
11 no parking signs , Strawberry Festival .
12 No parking signs . Why can ' t we put
13 flyers out and say, no illegal
14 fireworks ? Not in this areas , right?
15 On the fields , no problem .
16 COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY :
17 Unfortunately, they ' re not going to
18 listen . They ' re still going to .
19 GEORGE LAMAGA : Okay . Then what
20 are we talking about? I got an article
21 that ' s in the paper, right . A new --
22 How many arrests were made? How many
23 were issued? We don ' t do anything
24 about it, folks . I mean, Brian, I
25 was -- I ' m a teacher, right? Ms .
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1 Smith, I was -- I ' m a teacher . How do
2 you teach your grand kids to be good
3 kids and to do things that are legal
4 and keep it on? And I have to do this
5 year after year . No, it ' s my T-shirt,
6 right? I worked in Ukraine for four
7 months in Harkiv . When I was there,
8 every weekend was fireworks . Every
9 weekend fireworks , fireworks company .
10 What did that city do? It said enough
11 of this . We ' re 30 miles away from
12 Russia . I could have walked to Russia
13 if I had to, or wanted to want to do
14 that . So what they did, it says no
15 more fireworks . But now the university
16 I was at, bombed . The people get
17 killed . I don ' t want to see people
18 hurt in my bluffs . Look what happened
19 in Texas , right? Look what happened in
20 California . We don ' t do anything about
21 it . All I ' m asking, why can ' t we do
22 something about it? We ain ' t even
23 having to try . Al , what are we going
24 to do? What can we do?
25 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . :
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1 Well --
2 GEORGE LAMAGA : Quality of life .
3 I heard that word . Quality of life,
4 right? I want to be honest . I want to
5 help . What can I do to organize people
6 to see, you know, good fireworks and
7 good ways to do fireworks . Not the way
8 we ' re doing it .
9 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : And it
10 is -- it is -- I understand it is quite
11 a few this year . There were some
12 permitted . They had the permitted ones
13 on the 5th also there in Cutchogue . We
14 did not go . But they had a permitted
15 show . Certainly the one in Greenport
16 was permitted . And I assume the fire
17 department there had -- had plenty of
18 spectators . And there ' s one coming up
19 an Orient that ' s permitted next
20 weekend . But they are -- there are
21 quite a few and it is like enforcement
22 of -- of everything else . It ' s a
23 challenge . People next year are going
24 to want to celebrate .
25 GEORGE LAMAGA : It ' s going to be
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1 unbelievable .
2 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . :
3 They ' re going to want to celebrate the
4 nation ' s --
5 GEORGE LAMAGA : So you can see
6 what it ' s like on my beach, you won ' t
7 have to go to the City . I don ' t know
8 what we can do . I know the problem.
9 Should we be able to least try?
10 COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY : Yes .
11 GEORGE LAMAGA : That ' s all I ' m
12 asking .
13 COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY : I think we
14 have to have a conversation with the
15 chief . Find out, you know, on his end,
16 what he ' s done .
17 GEORGE LAMAGA : And yeah, and you
18 see, unfortunately, you know, I don ' t
19 mind . This was pretty good, because it
20 was 9 : 00 to 10 : 00 . And you saw what it
21 was like, and you just imagine what it
22 sounds like . But what I ' m -- what
23 happened sometimes , it ' s not if on a
24 Saturday could have been Friday,
25 Saturday, Sunday, and that ' s what
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1 happens goes on more and more . And
2 these people some people like last
3 year . And you know, I am the President
4 of the association down here . I can ' t
5 even get people to join out . Because
6 unfortunately, all the old timers are
7 going . They ' re disappearing . And
8 nobody wants to be part of it to even
9 talk about it . I like that people said
10 about Greenport . Why can ' t we sit down
11 and talk about some of these issues ?
12 They don ' t even want to talk about it .
13 How come? Why I ' m wondering, I ' m
14 wondering . I just got to a point
15 enough is enough . You know what I
16 mean? I ' m sorry . I , you know, I
17 disturbed you a little bit . But if you
18 want to see an hours worth, I don ' t
19 have an hour . I only have 10 minutes .
20 COUNCILWOMAN ANNE SMITH : Thank
21 you for bringing it to our attention .
22 COUNCILMAN BRIAN MEALY : Thank
23 you . I just appreciate you to Mr .
24 LaMaga for teaching us to look up in a
25 positive way . We would come to our
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1 school from Suffolk Community College ,
2 and you would teach us about Astronomy,
3 and about Eclipses and the Solar
4 System. I still remember the lessons
5 that you came to talk to us about . So
6 I look positively up -- I look up to
7 the stars . And when it ' s nice, when
8 it ' s not fireworks , I admire what you
9 taught us . So I just appreciate that
10 you took those years to teach us about
11 our natural environment, and how to
12 appreciate things quietly and
13 beautifully, and it can be done . And
14 hopefully we can return to it .
15 GEORGE LAMAGA : Also, I want to
16 make it dark . Dark skies . I mean --
17 we ' ve got to have dark skies .
18 ROBERT DUNN : Robert Dunn,
19 Peconic . You guys , I think you should
20 be commanded for passing that hotel
21 thing . Most of you know, I worked for
22 the City . Prior to the City, I worked
23 as a commercial renovator in all the
24 bad areas of the city . I was working
25 in Downtown Brooklyn when nobody would
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1 walk there . And I can tell you, if
2 those two buildings , not only the one ,
3 but the other one, by Laplane, if they
4 continued to sit that way, you just --
5 I mean, I ' m amazed . I ' m literally
6 amazed that the bank building doesn ' t
7 have one broken window that I ' ve
8 noticed . And I mean, once that starts ,
9 boom, then you got somebody dumping a
10 truck in the parking lot, somebody else
11 dumping garbage . So I mean, the
12 commitment was made . You allowed
13 somebody to build those things . And I
14 mean, who ' s going to tear them down?
15 So you ' re going to end up with two
16 white elephants . It was a smart move .
17 But the one thing I think you got to
18 continue with smart moves is for the
19 people of Mattituck, you need to block
20 the streets . There ' s no reason . I
21 mean, there ' s no reason they can ' t put
22 up 10 foot privilege out front . I
23 mean, there ' s not going to be a lot of
24 people driving by looking for hotels .
25 Anybody who ' s coming there, got a
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1 reservation, they came out for the
2 City, they planned a thing . I mean,
3 yeah, you will get the odd guy, a
4 salesman or something that might stay
5 there . He ' ll know where the place is .
6 And he ' ll know what the price is . And
7 if he gets a good deal , he ' ll be there .
8 But the thing is , I really think you
9 want to continue with your thoughts on
10 this . And I don ' t know what it works
11 with a Building Department, lighting .
12 We have laws on the book . You ' re not
13 allowed to have light trespass . That
14 means if that ' s your line , and I stand
15 here , it shouldn ' t be light on my
16 shoes , because that ' s trespass . This
17 has got to be enforced . And just like
18 you scared them off with that water
19 park and they did away with it . Good .
20 So they should make money there .
21 They ' ve invested a lot of money, and
22 they ' re going to invest a lot more and
23 they should make money on it . I ' m not
24 questioning that . But the thing is ,
25 the people of Mattituck spoke in fear,
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1 have a right . You also got a big
2 problem with the light there . When
3 that light changes and somebody ' s
4 coming out of that, making a left turn,
5 you got a real danger spot . I think
6 some consideration ought to be made or
7 to be given to flashing light . Maybe
8 even that they turn on and off inside
9 or it ' s put on a timer . So that it
10 works just primarily on the weekends ,
11 certainly wouldn ' t be needed in the
12 Winter . But I mean, if you had a
13 Saturday and Sunday there , there are
14 going to be cars coming out . So it ' s
15 the flashing yellow light .
16 COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY : That would
17 be all under the Planning Board and
18 through that process . So the Planning
19 Board reviews all that, the lighting
20 and the traffic and that .
21 ROBERT DUNN : If they don ' t do it,
22 it won ' t get done . What I ' m saying is ,
23 let ' s start talking about it now . So
24 they do know that there ' s interest in
25 it . You know, everybody can cover
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1 everything, right? And that ' s just the
2 way it is . And then you get to the
3 end .
4 COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY : And then
5 you say, I should have thought of this .
6 ROBERT DUNN : I ' ve had a lot of
7 experience with traffic lights and lack
8 of traffic lights . I got hit --
9 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Thank
10 you for bringing this to our attention
11 now and, you know, making public
12 comment about it because that helps .
13 ROBERT DUNN : That ' s all I ' m
14 trying to do here . You know, get the
15 conversation rolling . This is going to
16 be a two year, three year project . And
17 you just don ' t need to have it -- I
18 mean, they can make a lot of money and
19 not be a negative impact .
20 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI :
21 Absolutely .
22 ROBERT DUNN : And they could make
23 a lot of money . It shouldn ' t be a
24 negative impact .
25 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Thank
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1 you .
2 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Thank
3 you .
4 ERIC MCCLURE : Good evening, Eric
5 McClure , Mattituck . Thank you for the
6 news . I didn ' t get a chance to tune
7 into the Work Session this morning, but
8 I ' m glad to hear that you had a lengthy
9 conversation about sound and noise and
10 amplified music . I am grateful that my
11 pleas have not fallen on deaf ears and
12 really happy to hear that . And I did
13 not plan to coordinate this , but if
14 you ' ll indulge me, why not? It ' s a
15 recording of Saturday evening ' s music
16 from Strong ' s . And we went to a -- on
17 Sunday, we went to a party at Friends
18 and Cutchogue in their backyard . And
19 it actually made me realize that we
20 can ' t do that at our house to have
21 people over in the backyard any time
22 that there ' s live music at Strong ' s .
23 It would drown out any conversation .
24 It just totally ruins the ambiance in
25 the yard there . So anyway, I -- I
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1 don ' t know if this is going to do
2 justice to it at all , but this I
3 recorded at 8 : 15 on Saturday . That ' s
4 at my back door . So the music ' s about
5 200 yards away . It was over -- it hit
6 69 decibels was the high, I think . So
7 the Code 65 , and that ' s supposed to be
8 from their property line, not my back .
9 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : No, we
10 are taking it seriously . And we ' re
11 going to review other Towns Codes . A
12 lot of other towns have been in a
13 similar situation and have addressed it
14 in different ways . So we want to take
15 a look at what other people have done
16 and their successes .
17 ERIC MCCLURE : Thank you . And I
18 know Council Member Doherty made the
19 point earlier that an enforcement is
20 tricky . It just, you know, I think
21 we ' ve had an absence of enforcement
22 around noise certainly in our
23 neighborhood and I know in other places
24 in the community . I also just wanted
25 to say I also think that you made the
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1 right choice on the -- the Mattituck to
2 hotel property . It ' s been fallow for a
3 long time . You know, I ' d love to see
4 it be affordable housing there but
5 something productive is important . And
6 I think the reason is no windows been
7 broken on Love Lane is because I walk
8 the dog there every night, 11 : 00 and
9 Midnight, and nobody wants to mess with
10 a Pekingese who ' s about -- Thank you
11 very much .
12 UNKNOWN SPEAKER : I just wanted to
13 say on this idea that was just broached
14 here , that businesses should be able to
15 make money, but not mess up the
16 community . We had this discussion 30
17 years ago about the McDonald ' s , some of
18 you may remember . They wanted to have
19 a drive-thru and the community said no .
20 You can have the McDonald ' s but we ' re
21 not going to give you the variance for
22 the drive-thru, right . And that was a
23 huge fight . I just heard a couple of a
24 couple weeks ago, that McDonald ' s in
25 Mattituck has been selected as one of
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1 the 10 most beautiful McDonald ' s in the
2 Country . It was recognized as a prize
3 possession of the McDonald ' s chain .
4 So, just because the business wants to
5 do something, and we say no, doesn ' t
6 mean that that business is being dealt
7 poorly .
8 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : Thank
9 you .
10 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : That ' s a
11 great example .
12 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : All
13 right . I don ' t see anyone else , and I
14 don ' t see anyone on Zoom. Can I have a
15 motion to adjourn?
16 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Motion
17 to adjourn .
18 COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY : Second .
19 SUPERVISOR AL KRUPSKI JR . : All in
20 favor?
21 COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY : Aye .
22 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Aye .
23 COUNCILMAN BRIAN MEALY : Aye .
24 COUNCILWOMAN ANNE SMITH : Aye .
25 JUSTICE LOUISA EVANS : Aye .
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