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SOUTHOLU TOWN BOA'RD
NO'V-EMBER 24, 1981
EXECUTIVE SESSION
9:10 ~A.M. - The Board met with Rich'a'rd 'J.''Cr'on, Attorney for the
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Town in certiorari proceedings to discuss several cases now p din~ .....
WORK~ SESS ION
9:40 A.M. - Merlon Wiggin made a presentation to the Board concerning
co-generation waste management plan vs. electric generation. The
cost of the proposal would be covered 100% by Lovi'sa, and'would be
located wherever the study indicates would be most advantageous. The
steam generation proposal would be dependent upon steam cusomters,
and Mr. Wiggin looks to the town and county to encourage industry
that would be steam users.
10:10 A.M. - The Board began reviewing the agenda.
10:25 A.M. - Sybil:Mizzi and Paul Fink of' Pan' Tec'h. Management.appeared
before the Boa---~t.Jd--~uss the proposed c'Oop'era't'ion'a'gr~ement for
fiscal years 1982, 1'983, '1984. The Town will receive approximately
$200,000.00 in each of those fiscal years. It was-pointed out that
if the Town is in the consortium.they may not applY'for Small Cities
Grants.--The progress Of the wea'theriZation project at the Senior/
Youth Center, Peconic was discussed.
EXECUTIVE SESSION
10:50 A.M. - RiChard J~ Lark, Attorney
ment met with the Board to discuss cer
he feels urgent to aid the Building De
WORK SESSION
11:35 A.M. - Mr. Harold Rees~, owner and developer of the proposed
subdivision known as "Grandview Estates"~ met-With the Board to
discuss the amount of the proposed performance bond. Town Engineer
Lawrence Tuthill has prepared a bond estimate in the amount of
$400,000.00 and Mr. Reese has obtained numerous estimates on various
items and feel~ the actual amount of the bond .should be approximately
$200,000.00. The Town Board will request Town Engineer Tuthill to
meet with 5~. Reese and review the bond estimate.
11:50 A.M. - John Kanas, President, North Fork Bank 'a'nd 'Trust Co.
and Don Deerkoski, Manager of their computer cenzer, made an informal
presentation relative to the process o'f receiving ta'~ monies by North
Fork. During the past tax collecting season, North Fork received
approximately $2,000,000.00 in tax monies through the bank by mail.
They then issued a check to George Mellas, Receiver of Taxes, who
deposited the check in Chemical Bank where it is held approximately
six days. Mr. Mellas then draws a check to the Supervisor who then
writes checks to the various districts. Approximate time span is
11 days. If the Receiver and Supervisor had their accounts in the
North Fork, credit would be given within two days and for monies
received in the mail, credit could be given within two hours on
the day of receipt. There was approximately $50,000.00 in lost
earnings under the procedure used last year. If the process were
handled by North Fork, there would be no charge to the Town for
the services provided.---Speeding up the process of distributing
monies to the special districts had been discussed as far back as
1979, and it was the decision of the Board to place a resolution
on the agenda directing the Supervisor and ReceiVer of'Taxes to
transfer their tax accountS, to the North Form B~nk and Trust Co.
12:20 P.M. - Recess for lUnch.
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1:35 P.M. - Pending zon~ing decisions were discussed.
1:55 P.M. - P.B..A. President Henry S~epn'oski and'. P'atto'lnian ~Edward
Sidor met with the Board to discuss the' proPOsed !1981'-82 P.B.A/
Contract.
WORK SESSION
2:10 P.M. Board resumed reviewing the agenda.
2:40 P.M. Mr. Frank Bear addressed the Board relative to the
Suffolk County Legislature meeting he attended at which time he
had a discussion with Legislator Mrazek concerning the Nonth Fork
water study resolution proposed by LegislatOr Blass. Legislator
Mrazek told Mr. Bear he was afraid authorization for such a study
would make it possible for other municipalities to come to the
Legislature and request funding for special Projects. Mr. Bear
made a very brief statement to the Legislature on the subject
of the proposed water study resolution. On December 8th a vote
will be taken by the Legislature and Mr. Bear told the Board he
felt it would be most helpful if the Board adopted a resolution
at their regular meeting, urging the Suffolk County Legislature to
adopt the resolution for the water study, az a cost of approximately
$105,000.00, proposed by Legislator Blass. Councilman Murdock pointed
out that the Suffolk County Department of Health Services has recommend-
ed the study due to the seriousness of the water problem on the North
Fork.
EXECUTIVE SESSION
2:50 P.M~--- Discussed personnel.
REGULAR MEETING
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Board was held on
Tuesday, November 24, 1981 at the Southotd Town Halt, Main Road,
Southold, New York. Supervisor Pell opened the meeting at 3:00 P.M.
with the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
Present:
Supervisor William R. Pell, III
Councilman Henry W. Drum
Councilman John J. Nickles
Councilman Lawrence Murdock, Jr.
Councilman Francis J. Murphy
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Totem Clerk Judith T. Terry
Town Attorney Robert W. Tusker
Absent:
Justice Francis T. Doyen
On motion of Councilman Drum, seconded by Councilman Murdock, it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the November 10, I981 meeting of the
Southold Town Board be and hereby are approved.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nicktes, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
On motion of Councilman M~rphy, seconded by Supervisor Pell, it was
RESOLVED that the next reiular meeting of the Southold Town Board
will be held at 7:30 P.M., Tuesday, December 8, 1981 at the Southold
Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor PelI.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
I. REPORTS - SUPERVISOR PELL:
1. Monthly report for Long Island Cablevision (October 1981).
2. Monthly report for Judge Rich (October 1981).
3. Councilmen's report, Councilman Murdock.
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COUNCILMAN MURDOCK: As you know, last night we had a hearing with
the Village Board of Greenport and the Town Board and HtM pursuant
to handling sludge treatment. They also discussed the possibility
or probability of bringing water from the outfall pipe down.to
Cutchogue.,, On last Tuesday we had a seminar sponsored by the
Cooperative Extension Service in the New York State DEC building
on capping landfills. UnforTunately I think very few people
realize what landfill we have in Sou~hold and it upsets me a little
when I keep goi~g~!~.o these seminars and they keep talking about
how you cap the l~hdfill that. is 100 to 200 feet in height above
the ground and has these millions~of toms of debris and they are
existing landfills and acceptable and Southol~l Town is classified
as an open dump and we have a'very nice looking, very well graded
piece of property that may be six inches above ground level. The
seminar was and the problems capping landfills. I don't think it
had very much to offer the Town of Souihold. I don't know whether
the reply that I got for a question was facetious or whether it was
serious, when I asked one of the people there what the process they
were talking about, how it would apply to Southold Town and he said,
"You have to put more garbage on your already closed yart of the
dump to bring it up higher'". I don't know if that was a facetious
remark or a serious remark. Many things I've learned that ceme ou~
of the DEC that t think are facetious at first, they're dead serious
about. I certainly hope we don't have to start spreading more garbage
on the existing 15 acres-to bring it up so we can make a hill for them
to look at. That's all, B~ll.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Thank you. Councilman Drum? (No report.) Council-
man Nickles?
COUNCILMAN NtCKLES: I~d just like ~o report that last week a£ter all
the heavy wind and high tides it was brought to my attention that the
parking lot at Kennel's Beach had fallen i~t01the S~Und a~d was a
dangerous condition and I. called ~he Highway Department ~ they
very expeditiously Put up guard'r~ils and f~ashing lights se no one
would drive off there into what probably is very deep water and
subsequently they fenced off the entire area to keep people out of
that area.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Thank you. Councilman Murphy? (Nothing.)
Supervisor only has one thing to report. I a~t'ende~ a' ~-~eting in
Huntington concerning the railroad and perhaps the formation of a
Long Islan~ Transportation Authority to make Long Island get away
from MTA. I've never seen so many people up in arms in a long time
over one specific thing. The county legislature was represented
there, the county exec was there, everybody, just a lot of people
there. There was two gentlemen fro~ Southold Town there and it was
really seeing people up in arms. If:you read the papers in the last
few days, the governor is even beginning to jump on the band wagon.
Something might be done, something should be done. That's the only
thing I have to report. There will be a meeting held on the 30th
with the MTA in Riverhead Township, which your Town Board will attend,
with the railroad, with the problems that they have out here.
II. PUBLIC NOTICES - COUNCILMAN NICKLES:
1. From the Department of Conservation, Notice of Complete
~pplication by David M. Levitt to reconstruct existing stone jetties
and dredge and construct.open pite dock, ramps, floats and "T" float
at North Dumpling Island off Fishers Island. Con~nents by December
9th.
2. From the Department of Conservation, a public hearing notice
on application by Energy Devetopmenz COrporatiOn to construct a
municipal solid waste plant here at our town dump in Cutchogue.
Hearing is 10:00 A.M., December 16, 1981.
3. Application for the Department of Conservation by Fred Cowan
to construct deck with boat storage shed, catwalk, dock, ramp and
floating dock at Mattituck Creek. Comments by December 16th.
Ail of these notices are filed with the Town Clerk if you wish
to examine them closely.
III. COMMUNICATIONS - SUPERVISOR PELL:
t. From ~he Department of State. It's fairly thick. Last
wrote and asked them to come out and make a study of our
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bookkeeping system here and se~.~.W.~.,~heE.~would recommend, and
this is their repor~'~~ It"~~:~F~~during the next six
months by myself and the Town Board. They recommend in here,
they come out with some sort of mini-computer, but there is no
money in the budget for 1982. So if the Town Board does see fit
to go along this way, it will have to be in the 1983 year. So it
will give us six months to study this and see what we want to do
with it.
2. From the East End Art's Couscfl.,asking us to put a member
on their board, an ex officio representative from Southold Town
Board to their board. We will do-this when we have our organization
meeting in January.
3, From the Department of Public Works (Suffolk County) asking
the Town Board how they felt about having a fishing walkway put on
the bridge that wilt be built on New Suffolk Avenue (West Creek).
The Town Board has a petition here signed by a great many folks
recommending it. Later on we will go back to that subject.
IV. HEARINGS
SUPERVISOR PELL: We have three hearings. At the proper time we
will go to them. Right now we will jump over to resolutions.
V. RESOLUTIONS
On motion of Councilman Murdock, seconded by Councilman Drum,
WHEREAS, in 1931 in the community of Mattituck in the Town of
Southotd, New York, a group of people did assemble for the purpose
of establishing a church in the communiEy, and
WHEREAS, these people did establish the Advent Lutheran Church, and
WHEREAS, the Advent Lutheran Church of Mattituck, New York under the
pastorship of the Reverend George Summers will celebrate their
Fiftieth (50th) Anniversary on December 17, 1981, now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED thatthe Town Board of the Town of Southotd does hereby extend
sincere congratulations and best wishes to the Advent Lutheran Church
of ~attituck, New York.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Number 2, the zoning chang~ for Mr. and Mrs.
DeMaula, the Town Board has decided not to rule on this today.
We still would like further information and all the members of
the Board have not been up to review it yet.
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On motiqn, of Councilman Drum, seconded by Supervisor Pell, it was
RESOLVED that~the Town Board of the Town of Southold appoint
Margaret Coulter as a part-time Clerk in the office of the
Receiver of Taxes, effective when needed, at a salary of $26.00
per day.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Number 4, a gentleman has asked us to waive,
which the Town Board has the right to do, his permit he would be
required to get to remove soil from one piece of land he owns to
another piece of land. The Town Board did discuss this and we
decided not to waive the permit requirements. He must get the
permit and he will be so informed. (E. M. Kontakosta)
On motion of Councilman Murphy, seconded by Councilman Nickles, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board declare itself lead agency
in regard to the State Environmental Quality Review Act in the
matter of the application of Enconsultants, Inc. for Neil Simon
for a wetland permit on certain property located at the terminus
of Harbor Lights Drive, on man-made basin off Southold Bay, Southold,
New York.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Dr~un, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
SUPERVISOR PELL: We decided on Number 6 ~o wait until we sit down
with our Planning Board Chairman next wee~ and this will be back
on the agenda on 12/$. (Proposed subdivision entitled "Richmond
Creek Farms" approve )r disapprove as being developed in the cluster
concept.)
NOVEMBER 24, 1981
Number 7, the man that owns this development (Harold Reese)
came in to the Town Board today requesting the amount of the bond
be reviewed by the Town Board and Town Engineer again. It seems
that his estimate and the Town Engineer's estimate does not come
to close together. Therefore the Town Board is going to direct
the Town Engineer to sit down and go over this (Grandview-Estates)
with the owner and resubmit it after they jointy review it.
8. Moved by Councilman Murdock, seconded by Councilman Drum,
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Board would like to weatherize the
Peconic Lane Senior/Youth Recreation Center, and
WHEREAS, the insulation of the walls was publicly bid pursuant
to an October 29, 1981 notice to bidders, and
WHEREAS, Federal Conservation Group was the selected bidder, and
WHEREAS, General Information Condition 3a calls for performance
and paymen~ bonds in the amount of 100% of the bid price, and
WHEREAS.. Lin Jacinto, President of Federal Conservation Group
has applied for these bonds, but desires to commence work prior
to receiving them, and
WHEREAS, in order to proceed expeditiously until such time as
the above referenced policies are delivered to the Town, Lin
Jacinte shall place in the custody of the Town Clerk a Certificate
of Deposit in excess of the bid price, now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board agrees to accept from Fed'eral
Conservation Group a Certificate of Deposit as t'emporary security
in lieu o~ the specified performance and payment bonds, upon t,he
condition that all of the right, title and interest of the owner
of said Certificate of Deposit shall be assigned to the Town of
Southold, and that the bank issuing the same shall cons. ent to
such assignment. Upon the filing of the required bonds, said
Certificate shall be reassigned to the original owner thereof.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor
This resolution was declared duty adopted.
9. On motion of Councilman Murphy, seconded b~ Ni~kles,
WHEREAS, on September 23, 1980, the Southold Town Board el"~cte~
to join with the Suffolk County Con~nunity Development Consortium.
in order to a~ply for 1981 and 1982 C~ Funds; and
WHEREAS, HUD regulations for grant eligibility, have since changed,
requiring new cooperation agreements for 1982 through 1984 funding,
now, be it therefore
RESOLVED that ~upervisor William R. Pell, III be and he hereby is
authorized and directed to execute a contract between the Town of
Southold and the County of Suffolk for Southold Town's participation
in the Suffolk County Community Development Consor~ium, This agree-
menm to commence on December 1, 1981 and to continue in effect for
Fiscal Years 1982, 1983 and 1984 Community Development Block Grant
Funding.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
10.
On motion of Councilman Drum, seconded by Councilma~ Murphy, it was
RESOLVED that '~he Town Board of the Town of Southold accept, with
regret, the resignation of Jean H. Tiedke, Southold Town's
representative on the Suffolk County Solar Energy Commission,
effective November 24, 1981, and be it further
RESOLVED that a letter be forwarded to Mrs. Tiedke thanking her
for her untiring and conscientious efforts on behalf of the Town
as a member of the Suffolk County Solar Energy Commission.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
SUPERVISOR PELL: We will .be trying to find a replacement betWeen
now and the next Town Board meeting on December 8th, so if anybody
has anybody they would like to recommend, if they w~uld send their
in toymy office or the Town Clerk, it can be reviewed and a replace-
ment ~iii hopefully be named on December 8th. They are meeting the
next time on December 17th.
11. ' On motion of C0unc~ilman Nickles, seconded by Councilman Murphy, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold accept, with
regret, the resignation of Joan Dors, part-time Clerk Typist in the
Building Department, effective November 27, 1981, and be' it further
~! RESOLVED that a letter be forwarded to Mrs. Dots extending the Board's
best wishes for the future.
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Vote of the Town Boar : A~9~:~i~l~n Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman'NiCkle~:;"~?~O%~hDr~m, SuperVisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Number 12 we are not read~ to move on. We will
have to wait on that one also. (Hire a part-time Clerk Typist in
the Building Department.)
Number 13, Mr. Muir has made other arrangements. He does not
need the money at this time, he is going to go through the regular
voucher system that people get paid by the Town. (Reimbursement of
Robert Muir, Beach Manager, $480.00 for purchase of surf boards.)
On motion of Councilman Murdock, seconded by Councilman Drum, it was
RESOLVED thatthe Town Board of the Town of SoUthold authorizes the
transfer of the following funds, necessary to pay legal services
rendered by Smith, Finkelstein, Lundberg, Crimmins and YakaboSki:
From: General Fund Whole Town Contingent Account ..... $3,275.00
To: General Fund Whole Town Trustees, Contractual--S3,275.00
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
On motion of Councilman Murdock, seconded by Councilman Drum, it was
RESOL¥~D that the Town Board of the Town of Southotd authorizes the
transfer of the following funds, necessary to pay legal services
rendered by Smith, Finkelstein, Lundberg, Crimmins and Yakaboski:
From: General Fund Part Town Planning, Contractual---S6,000.00
To: General Fund Part Town Zoning, Contractual ..... $6,000.00
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Couacilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
On motion of Councilman Murdock, seconded by Councilman Drum, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold authorizes the
payment of $12,062.92 to Smith, Finkelstein, Lundberg, Crimmins and
Yakaboski for legal services rendered, from the following accounts:
General Fund Whole Town .... $ 3,375.00
General Fund Part Town ..... $ 8,687.92
$12,062.92
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Numbers 15 through 21 you do not have, so I will
ask the Town Board members to explain them as they go along. Number
15 the fishing pier on the bridge.
On motion of Councilman Murphy, seconded by Councilman Nickles, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold request the
Suffolk County Deparzment of Public Works to incorporate provisions
for a fishing platform on the south side of the proposed West Creek
Bridge on New Suffolk Avenue, Town of Southold, New York (C.P. No.
5821).
VOte of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
On motion of Councilman Drum, seconded by Councilman Murdock, it was
RESOLVED that Supervisor William R. Pell, III be and he hereby is
authorized and directed to execute the 1981-~1982 PBA' Contract when
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it is approved by Town Attorney Tasker.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman'Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
COUNCIL~IAN DRUM: This is a new contract which will contain several
changes commencing in January of this year, this past year, Januar~
I, 1981, and one of the changes does give them a 7.7% pay increase
effective in January of 1981 and then effective in July 1 of 1982
there will be a 10.6% increase.
On motion of Supervisor Pell, seconded by Councilman Drum, it was
RESOLVED that Receiver of Taxes George Metlas be and he hereby is
directed to transfer the Tax Receiver's Tax Account from Chemical
Bank to the North Fork Bank and Trust Company, Mattituck, New York,
and be it further
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RESOLVED that Supervisor Witliam R. Pell, III be and he hereby is
directed to transfer the Snpervisor's Tax Account from the Chemical
Bank to the North Fork Bank and Trust Company, Mattituck, New York.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
SUPERVISOR PELL: The North Fork Bank came in today and I. requested
them to, and made a presentation to the Board on how we could
expedite the funds that are Collected from your tax bill to give
to the proper municipalities in a way so they could invest them
and make more money on tax money. Right now the funds, some come ~
in to the North Fork Bank, SOme come in to Town Hall, then they [ i1
go into the Chemical Bank. The North Fork Bank would hold t~{e checksi._~..~
for three or four days, five days for them to clear and Chemical Bank
would hold the checks for three or four days while they-cleared, in
the mean time then they would give them to my account and-I moved
my account, last year, into the Chemical Bank so the day the Chemical
Bank check issued to my account I could sit down that afternoon and
give Southold School, Greenport School, Mattituck Par~ District the
money we collect for them. I asked the bank if they could not come
up with a faster day to do it to save anywhere from six to eleven or
twelve days in some cases. The North Fork Bank came today and said
they could speed it up to about three days. By speeding this money
up to three days turn over, the municipalities in Town involved could
get the money faster and get it out to make money for themselves.
I'm going to be a conservative, from what the banker said today,
it is approximately they could make $40,000.00 in interest by. cutting
off the length of time it takes to get the money around~. So with
this information the Board decided to direct me and the Tax Receiver
to work with the North Fork Bank. The North Fork Bank has many
branches in Town and most of these checks are drawn on the North
Fork Bank, so therefore, they could clear them if the checks are
drawn on their own local bank and do not have to wait the ~$ime for
clearance. This is one of the reasons why they say they can give
us this quick turn around.
On motion of Councilman Murdock, seconded by CounCilman DLcamm, it was
RESOL?~D that Supervisor William R. PetI, III be and he hereby
is authorized and directed to execute a Maintenance Agreement
between Mayday Communications and the Town of Southold' for the
ECHO Rapid Recall Recorder and Magnasync/Moviola Recorder at the
Southold Town Police Headquarters, effective September 1, 1981
through August 31, 1982 at a total cost of $1,286.00.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
On motion of Councilman Murphy, seconded by Councilman Nickles, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hire Rose
Jacobi as a Relief Traffic Warden effective immediately.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
On motion of Councilman Drum, seconded by Councilman Murdock, it was
RESOLVED that Supervisor William R. Pell, III be and he hereby is
authorized and directed to enter into a contract~ between Bruce A.
Norris.and the Town of Southold'for the purchase of a parcel of
land containing approximately 37,091 square feet on the north side
of Sound Avenue~ Mattituck, New York, bounded north by North Fork
Bank and Trust Co., east by other lands of Norris, south by Sound
Avenue and west by property of the Episcopal Church.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes:' Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pel!.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
COUNCILMAN DRUM: I might make comment that this is just under an
acre of property located in the Village of Mattituck across from
the Presbyterian Church and just east of the EF'scopal Church. As
some of you may or may not know, there have beei~ traffic problems,
noz only during the busy summer season but also creates a parking
hazard for the churches when there are services. This would provide
the parking facilities. Part of it would be used for parking
~Cilities and to a great extent alleviate the present parking
problems. It is estimated the cost of this contracz would be in
the amount of $85,000.00, not estimated, that is the set amount.
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Both of them are owned by the North Fork Bank and the municipality
uses Them as public, but they are not---
COUNCILMAN DRUM: I believe one is owned by the bank, Bill, and
the other is owned by the Mattituck Park Commission.
COUNCILMAN MURPHY: We own that on the other street down towards the
firehouse.
COUNCIL~N DRUM: Yes, but the bank owns the one across near the
railroad tracks.
SUPERVISOR PELL: The bank owns both of them and the Mattituck Park
District owns to the east. They've got three parking lots in Mattituck
and none of them are owned by the Town. There is no municipal parking
there and we have a chance to pick this up and our Town Board so
desires to do it.
Number 2t and the last one is to support a study that was
recommended by the Suffolk County Water Department. Mr. Frank
Bear, is he here? He asked to speak on that one on my way in.
Then we will offer a resolution, Frank.
FRANK BEAR: When I went 'to the County Legislature, I made a state-
ment to the County Legislature urging them to approve a resolution
which is being presenzed by Legislator Gregory Blass calling upon
the legislature to approve a study that costs $105,000.00, of the
water problem here on the north fork. Now this water problem, of
course, has been studied many many Times and the purpose of this
study is to bring together the ,information that is already available,
not to make a new study on the problem, but to make recommendations
on how the water problem can be resolved here on the north fork in
the Town of Riverhead and Southold. The County Legislature needs 12
votes in order ~o approve this resolution and therefore there's, of
course, a need to get this study approved because our water problem
here on the north fork I don't need to tell you is critical and
something needs to be done immediately. I have written out here
in my own typing, the likes of which I'm sure you may never have
seen before, and I have written a resolution which I cleared with
the Town Attorney, Mr. Tusker, who made some suggestions and I'd
like to present it to you for your consideration.
(Mr~ Bear read the following resolution which was moved and
seconded as fOllows:)
On motion of Councilman Nickles, seconded by Councilman Murdock,
WHEREAS~ the sole source for drinking water on the North Fork of
~Long Island, io.:.-luding the Towns of Southold and Riverhead, is
critically polluted, and
WHEREAS, it is urgently necessary to find and implement methods by
which a continuing source of safe drinking water can be assured for
the residents of the North Fork, and
WHEREAS, the water problem on the North Fork could have an impact
on the drinking water supply in other areas of Suffolk County, and
WHEREAS, the Suffolk County Department of Health Services has
recommended that a study be made at once to identify methods by
which a safe and potable supply of drinking water can be assured
for the residents of the North Fork, and
WHEREAS, County Legislator Blass has proposed a resolution that
the County Legislature approve such a study and its funding at a
cost of $105,000.00, now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board requests and strongly urges
the Legislature of the County of Suffolk To approve such a resolution
at its meeting on December 8, 1981.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duty adopted,
On motion of CoBncilman ~Iurdock, seconded by Supervisor Pell, it was
RESOLVED that this To~ Board meeting be recessed at 3:30 P.M. for
the purpose of holding three recessed wetland public hearings.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted;
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IV. HEARINGS
3:30 P.M..- Recessed from November 5, 1981 - application of
Enconsultants, Inc. for ~ucrrrewe~ Lagoon Association for permission
to maintenance dredge. The
3:35 P.M. - Recessed from November 5, 1981 - application of Charles
DeLuca for permission to construct wal~vay, ramp and floats.
3:40 P.M. - Recessed from November 5, 1981 - application of Costello
Marine Contracting for Fred Cowan to construct open piling dock, ramp,
floating dock and catwalk ramp.
Meeting reconvened at 3:45 P.M.
SUPERVISOR PELL: At this time I'd like to go back to the regular
Southold Town Board meeting we have and reopen that one. We left
off where we usually go along and say that ends the prepared agenda
we had for today and does any Councilman at this time have anything
they wish to add? Councilman Murdock? (Not I.) Councilman Drum?
(Not-hing.) Councilman Nickles?
COUNCILMAN NICKLES: Yes. I see there are some people here from
Kenney's Beach and earlier today Mr. Markel mentioned something
about concrete at the Town Dump. Over the weekend one of our
contractors had pointed out to me that we have large pieces of
concrete there. I called the Highway Department. They'went up
and inspected it and they find that there is a significant amount
of large pieces of concrete which we could consider dumping over
the edge of the parking lot at Kenney's Beach to make some attempt
to break the wave action and I guess the matter will have to be
reviewed. He also .gave me a figure on hiring a couple of trucks.
The Town would load it on the trucks and the PriVat~ contractor
would deposit the material along Kenney's Beach~.,~ This is ~omething
the Town Board has not--hasn't been discussed~Wit~i~he To~vn Board.
It will be discussed probably later in the day Wi~the T~n ~oard
to see (1) if we have the wherewithall to do this, ~2) when we get
the Price do we wish to do it and is it something that would be
effective. I know Mr. MarkeI has used it in front of his property
and finds it is something worthwhile,
SUPERVISOR PELL: Councilman Murphy? (Nothing, Bill.) ~t this'time
who wishes to address the Board? Mr. Markel.
MR. SAMUEL MARKEL: I wish to address the Board in what John Nickles
has just said, When you said whether or not you have the wherewithall.
Do vou have the wherewithall to perhaps bui'ld a new parking lot next
spr~ng which will cost many many times the cost of h~ring ~o have that
concrete brought up from the dump and put in place. At my own expense
a few years ago I had Mr. Latham truck in hundreds and hundreds of tons
of broken concrete and place it in front of my porch and was well up
to the water line and it did break the ice and wave action which happens
in the winter time. In subsequent years it has settled and been covered
by sand and there is no unsightly concrete to be seen. As a conclusive
point to this, you used to have a boat ramp down there which was
constructed of concrete and it did serve as a barrier for 'the waves
for a long time. It has completely disappeared from view. It has
settled. I'm sure it 'does some good, but has completely disapoeared.
Wha~ I suggested to ~Ir. NickleS was to lay this concrete as close to
the parking lot as possible and preserve what you have until you deci~
what you re going to do mn the future, whmch I m sure by sprmng
have a very good idea of what you're going to do up there. If you
don't do this you might have to consider putting a.bridge across Leeton
Drive because that's what's going to happen. You're going-to get a
cut out and it's going to go right back to Leeton Drive and cut off
that area completely. This is your alternative, and it might not
happen in this one coming year. I'm sure you're going to lose a lot
of parking lot but I would say in three, four, five years you can
perhaps be building a bridge across Leeton Drive.
COUNCILMAN NICKLES: Well, I think Sam's points are well taken. Maybe
I didn't make myself clear. This is what the Town Board will consider
when it's brought to their attention. We have not had an opportunity
to discuss it yet, and I'm sure we have the money, it's just a
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447
question of do we have the m~h~':~'~'~We can get it. There would
have to be a surplus somewhere where we can take the money from.
MR. MARKEL: As the gentleman on the right knows (Town Attorney Tasker),
ia.most contraczs there is a term that says, time is of the essence.
I believe in this case that time is of the essence. One good'storm
tomorrow, the next day, would do enough damage to cost twice as much.
It happens. It only took one good storm to do what you saw there now.
COUNCILMAN NICKLES: Sam, it will be discussed later today.
MR. CHARLES HICKEY: My wife and I were down there last Tuesday just
before it was closed and this is s~mething else you should have on
your mind. The school bus came down loaded with kids, no more than
ten or eleven years old and they were brought out of the bus to see
this and the driver of the bus was explaining about about it, what
was happening and we were glad we went away before they did because
we didn't know what was going to happen. Now'the next day I went down
again it was closed which I was very happy to see becuase it could
have been something else for you to think about if something happened
that day while it was open.
COUNCILMAN NICKLES: I indicated earlier that as soon as it was brought
to the Town's attention there was serious caving in of the parking
area, it was closed off with flashing lights and if you've been down
there lately, the whole entrance from the outer barriers is now fenced
off which snow fence.
SUPERVISOR PELL: The Town Board met first thing Monday'morning, as
soon as it occured, all the Town Board,except Frank who was sick,~ got
together here and discussed this and instructed Mr. Jacobs to close
it off immediately permanently for the time being.
Anybody else wish to address the Town Board? (No response.)
If not, I will ask the Town Board to recess at this time. I have
some personnel matters I have to discuss with them and after I
discuss them the Board might move on some of them.
On motion of Councilman Nickles, seconded by Supervisor Pell,
RESOLVED that this Town BOard meeting be recessed at 3:55 P.M.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Superviso'r Pelt.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
it was
WORK SESSION
4:00 P.M. - The Board discussed off agenda items and personnel matters.
5:30 P.M. - Regular meeting reconvened.
12.
On motion of Councilman Murphy, seconded by Councilman Murdock, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hire Eileen Carey,
effective November 25, 1981 through February 25, 1982 as a part-time
Clerk Typist in the Building Department, 30 hours per week, $4.50 per
hour.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
22.
On motion of Councilman Nickles, seconded by Councilman Murphy, it was
RESOLVED tha~ the Town Board of the Town of Southold reaffirm their
Resolution of November 10, 1981' relat'ive to the ~'erminat'ion of
Sunrise Coach Lines, Inc. 'scheduled' bus transpOrta'tiOn between 'the
Town of Southold and New York City which read as follows:
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Southold is aware
of the need for scheduled bus transportation from the
Town of Southold to New York City on a daily basis, and
WHEREAS, Sunrise Coach Lines, Inc. has instituted such
's~heduled bus transportation, which~has::.been found to
be extremely necessary for those residents of Southold
Town who commute daily to employmenm in New York City,
now, therefore, be it
448 NOVEMBER 24, 1981
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold
does hereby go on record as fully and wholeheartedly
supporting Sunrise Coach Lines, Inc. in maintaining
daily scheduled bus transportation from the Town of
Southold to New York City.
AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of
Southold, in view of the existing competition for a Permanent
Certificate for this bus route, urge New York State Department
of Transportation Co~n'issione~' WilIiam C.' HenneSsy 't~ award a
Permanent Certificate to Sunrise Coach Lines, Inc.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duty adopted.
Councilman Murphy advised the Board he would like to arrange a
meeting with Paul Flagg concerning the institution of a Program
for the Raft Culture of Seed Clams so the Town can get set early
in the season. He said that East Hampton Supervisor Mary Fallon
is supposed to be sending a letter reaffirming East Hampton's
support of the program. Science classes in two or three schools
and 4-H leaders are interested in helping to build the rafts.
'Councilman Murdock q~estioned the cost of the entire program.
Councilman Murphy stated that the fee for Paul Flagg would be
$1,200.00 per year for two years, material for the rafts would
be approximately $800.00~ and the cost of the seed would be
about $2,000.00 per year. A meeting will be arranged with
Paul Flagg to discuss t.he details of the proposed program.
The erosion problem at Kenney's Beach was discussed by ~he Board.
It was felt that the placement~of concrete along the drop-off
would be the best solution, and there is ample pieces of concrete
at the Disposal Area. Deputy Highway Superintendent Raymond Jacobs
is in the process of obtaining prices for 4-wheelers~to transport
this cement to Kenney's Beach. In the meantime,~Superviso~ Pell
will contac~ the D.E.C. ' ~ ' ~' ' ~
to arrange a meeting, and~nspect~o~ of the
site with the hope of obtaining an emergenc~ permit. The' ~er.ps
of Army Engineers will also be contacted. The Board will mecess
this meeting and reconvene on Tuesday, Decembe~.Ist'.~so'an~S~l~tion
can be adopted authorizing the hiring of the 4-wheeiers.
On motion of Councilman Murdock, seconded by Councilman Drum, it was
RESOLVED that this Town Board meeting be recessed at 5:45 P.M.. this
date, and reconvene at 9:00 A.M., Tuesday, December 1, 1981.
Vote of the Town BOard: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Counci'lman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
* * *
WORK SESSION - 8:'30 A.M., TUESDAY, DECEMBER 1, 1981
Present:
Supervisor Pell,~ Councilmen Drum, Nickles, Murdock, Murphy,
Town Attorney Tasker, Planning Board Chairman Raynor and
Planning Board member Ortowski.
The Board met with Mr. Raynor and Mr. Ortowski to discuss the proposed
official road map for the Town of Southold.
REGULAR MEETING recessed from November 24, 1981, reconvened at
10:00 A.M., Tuesday, December I, 1981.
Concerning the erosion problem at Kenney's Beach, Supervisor PeI1
stated the D.E.C' has inspected the site and has given verbal
approval. The Town can hire the necessary trucks to transport
the cement from the Disposal Area for approximately $2,000.00;
On motion of Councilman Nickles, seconded by Councilman MUrphy, it was
RESOLVED that Supervisor William R. PeI1, III be and he hereby is
authorized and directed to hire the necessary trucks to transport
pieces of cement from the Town Disposal Area to Kenney's Beac~ at
a cost not to exceed $2,O00.00;
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
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On motion of Councilman Nicktes, seconded by Supervisor Pell, it was
RESOLVED that there being no further business to come before this
Town Board meeting adjour:nment be called at 10:05. A.M..
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Murphy, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
Southold Town Clerk