HomeMy WebLinkAboutTB-11/06/1980SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD
November 6, 1980
WORK SESSION
9:00 AiM. - The Board audited the bills.
9:30 A.M. - Justices Rich and Tedeschi met with the Town Board to
discuss moving the justice offices and court to the Town Hall on
January 1st. Justice Rich does not feel it is a good move for the
Town; there is not enough room for jury trials, conferences, and
space for attorneys To confer with~:their clients. Justice Tedeschi
faVor~ the consolidation for the justice court and justice offices
at the Town Hall. He has spoken To justices in other towns, inquiring
about their operation of their courts and cannot see a problem in
Southold Town. Supervisor Pell stated that the Town will not dispose
of the present court building until it has been determined that the
use of the Town Hall meeting Room as a court room is workable. How-
ever, the justice's offices will be moved to the Town Hall as of
January 1st.
10:00 A.M. Supervisor Pell discussed the expenditure of the money
under the $10,000. youth grant and $40,000. police grant.
10:45 A.M. - 11:15 A.M. - A recess was called by Councilman Murdock
for a meeting with Councilmen Drum, Nickles and Sullivan.
11:15 A.M. - The Board began reviewing the agenda.
12:00 Noon - Recess for lunch. (The Board a~tended the ~eteran's
Day Luncheon at the Nutrition Center.)
1:40 P.M. - The Board resumed reviewing the agenda.
Supervisor Pell stated to the Board that he would like the Town Board
to consider going out to competitive bid on insurance policies. He
introduced Mr. William Mullen he said he had offered his services
to the late Supervisor Martocchia to review the Town's insurance
coverage. Mr. Multen is not charging a fee and would be happy To
meet with the Town Board and Town Attorney Tasker to further review
the insurance coverage. He has already spend over 150 hours on a
survey of this nature. Supervisor Pell set 8:00 A.M., Tuesday,
November 11, 1980 to meet with Councilman Murdock and Councilman
Sullivan of the Taxation and Finance Committee, and 9:00 A.M. to
meet with the full Board to further go into the insurance matter.
3:00 P.M. - The Board held a public hearing on the Preliminary 1981
budget, and 3:15 P.M. on the use of federal revenue sharing funds
for 1981.
3:50 P.M. - Dick Wilton, Walter Krupski, Peter Kreh, John Case and
John Bemryman of the Southold Town Promotion Committee met with the
Town Board to request a donation from the Town Board toward updating
their brochuref~or 1981. In their proposed budget they ask for a
$10,000. contribution from the Town of Southold. No decision was made
on this matter.
Justice Doyen was present at the Work Session and Budget Hearings
from 9:00 A.M. to 4:00 P.M.
A regular meeting of the Mouthold Towm~Board was held on Thursday,
November 6, 1980 at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold,
New York. Supervisor Pell opened the meeting at 7:30 P.M. with
the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
OVEMBE 98o'
Supervisor William R. Pell III
Councilman Henry W. Drum
Councilman John J. Nickles
Councilman Lawrence Murdock, Jr.
Councilman George R. Sullivan
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Town Clerk Judith T. Terry
Town Attorney Robert W. Tasker
Deputy Supervisor Marie Bauer Johnson
On motion of Councilman NIckles, seconded by Councilman Drum, it was
RESOLVED that the October 21, 1980 minutes of the Southold Town Board
meeting be and hereby are approved.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Sullivan, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
On motion of Councilman Murdock, seconded by Councilman Drum, it was
RESOLVED that the next regular meeting of the Southold Town Board
will be held at 3:00 P.M., Tuesday, November 18, 1980 at the Southold
Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Sullivan, Councilman
M~rdock, Councilman Drum, Councilman Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
SUPERVISOR PELL: I did not omit the audit of the bills but we have
got to transfer some money before we can audit the bills so that will
come up later on in the evening.
I. REPORTS - SUPERVISOR PELL:
1. ~e asked Councilman Drum to look into and evaluate the
school crossing guards throughout out township and I don't believe
he is ready to make a report at this time.
COUNCILMAN DRUM: No, I have not received complete information
yet.
SUPERVISOR PELL: That will come probably the next meeting.
21 The minutes of the Mattituck Inlet Advisory Committee.
Larry sits on this, Larry, do you want to say anything on that?
COUNCILMAN MURDOCK: Well, we seem to be making pretty good
progress. The committee is looking into some possible avenues of
more immediate action in terms of some zoning recommendations. We
are working toward that end as an immediate step and we are going
to look to a more long range discussion as to the environmental
part of the entire Mattituck Inlet system.
3. The monthly report from the Supervisor's Office, the budget
report (month of October 1980).
4. The Highway Department monthly report (month of October, 1980.
5. Fishers Island Feery District monthly report (month of
October 1980.)
6. Town Clerk!s monthly report (month of October 1980).
7. Larry, muself and George are working with the Village of
Greenport on a contract for what is known as the East-West Fire
District. We had some negotiations with them. We made them a semi-
formal offer. The money that is to be raised will be placed upon
the people who live in the area. We will wait until we hear back
from them if they are going to accept it. Then if they accept if
we will place it on the agenda for resolution form.
8. The Building Inspector's monthly report (month of October 1980).
9. You do not h~e, but it was delivered today by Justice Doyen
from Fishers Island. He was over here at 9:~o o'clock today and stayed
until about a quarter of five and he left To go back To Fishers
Island. He did take part in the working session of the Board today.
(Report of Justice Doyen for the months January-October 1980.)
10. Another report I would like to bring up is a meeting we had
this morning with our tow justices, Judge Rich and Tedeschi. We
discussed in detail the movement of the judge's offices into the Town
Hall and the movement of the justice court from Cutchogue into this
room right here. We went in detail. We are not recommending ---we
are not at this time recommending disposal of the justice court in
Cutchogue. We want to ge~ the justice court in here to be sure it
ms going to work. We are bringing it down here on a trial basis to
make sure there is enough room and sure it can accomodate the court
system in this building amd make sure we are making a step in the
right direction.
il. Another report I made to the Board today, I am working on
affirmative action plan All the towns in suffolk met with the
county department head of Civil Service and discussed affirmative
action plan. Many towns have them. Southold does not. I will
distribute to the Board tomorrow a rough,draft of one and they
will review it, pick it apart and we will go from there. Later on
we will h~ve one for the Board to adopt, but we are just beginning
to work on one for Southold Town. That ends the reports,~that I
have today. Did I leave anything out?
II. PUBLIC NOTICES - COUNCILMAN NICKLES:
1. The first public notice is from the Department of Environmental
Conservation, Notice of Complete Application of Zahra Benz to construct
a catwalk, ramp and float at Mattituck Inlet. The response time on that
is November 19th.
2. Also from the DEC, Notice of Complete App~idation by Ali
Agarabi to construct a catwalk, ramp and float at Mattituck Inlet.
Also response date to DEC is November 19th.
3. Department of the Army, Corps of Engineers, application by
Agarabi to construct a catwalk, ramp and float. Comments to the
Corp of Engineers on this by November 20th.
4. Zahra Benz, also the Corps of Engineers, comments by November
20th.
5. bEC, Complete Application by Joseph and Joan Gold to construct
a catwalk, ramp and float in Cutchogue. Comments by November 19th
6. DEC, Complete Application and SEQR Negative Declaration on
the application of the Town of Southold Solid Waste Facility Operation.
comments by November 19th.
7. Department of the Army, Corps of Engineers, application by
Norman Boos to construct floating piers and floats at Cutchogue.
Comments by December 1st.
Copies of all these notices are with the Town Clerk if you wish
to look at them they will be available.
III.COMMUNICATIONS - SUPERVISOR PELL:
1. From the Mattituck Garden Shop reference zoning enforcement
and the lack thereof. We did turn it over to the ~.nilding Department
and ask them to check it out. They are working on the violation and
they will pursue the complaint and stay on top of it, keep the Boated
informed of what they are doing.
2. From Union Carbide reference Temik, charcoal filters, re-
charging. Basic bottom line is they suggest we call Design Engineers
to find out what can be done and the way of a safe d~isposal of the
spent carbon charcoal. Bottom line is they are telling us it is going
to be up to the people to dispose of it and they tell u~ who to
contact, this engineering firm, but basically they don't tell us much
else. We had a letter from the DEC on this and they basically sai~
you cannot put it in the landfill, it's a hazardous waste. We have
a problem. Every town on the east end has it. We were assured by
public health that they are working on it. DEC is working on it.
Everybody is working on it at this time but no answers yet and
your Town Board will keep on top of it, trying to push them.
3. Reference the dredging of Corey Creek. We have four letters
here on it in regards to it and I belieYe one gentleman in the front
row would like to speak on it.
JERRY MOYLE: My name is Moyls. I represent not only Laughing--I am
a member of Laughing Waters Property Owners Association, but in add:itiOn
I represent the other three let~e~s-.a;b~.c& d. Those four letters
covertthe circumference--I should say the populated circumference of
Corey Creek and basically they all read about the same. It is urgent
and they all tell you so and this last storm didn't do it much good.
Now, I have been after Supervisor Pell a long time on this situation,
ever since Laughing Water was very briefly dropped off the--not only
the essential list but the complete list. ~o as a result of my
continual talks I received a very encouraging phone call from Counc~l-
man Drum and I would like to know from Councilman Drum, are you in a
position at this time to confirm it, what you said to me, or if not,
how long must we wait.?
COUNCILMAN DRUM: The overall dredging of our various inlets, the
project the county had scheduled the dredging earlier in the year.
At presen~ I do not believe there will be any more derdging this
year, calendar year. Now, a person by the name of Mr. Guildi who is
the head al all the dredging in the county has promised us that he
would have a meeting with us prior to the end of the year, in fact
I had hoped it would be in the month of November, and with our
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committee, the ~QuthQld Town Committee, of which Mr. Murdeck and~
Mr. Nickles are on the Inland Waterways Committee, and at that
particular time he had said we would establish a dredging project
list for next year and he also said he hoped that we would start
earlier than we did last year. If you may recall, we didn't get
started until the later part of May or June., actually and I felt
we didn't get our fair share of the dredging this part year. Although
they did give us dredging of the creeks that were just about closed.
Now, I would have to saythat-prob~bly.-al!~Of.the creeks ~ed
dredging, or almost all of them need dredging. But it w~s necessary
for us to have a priority list and they said we would only get so
many project.s and the projects that we included in this past year
were those that were almost closed. Now, again, we haven't had our
meeting as yet, we h~e:~not conducted our inspection of all of the
creeks and inlets and I would hope that Corey Creek would be higher
up on the priority or be on the priority list at least. I can't
promise anything because we do not know how much funds we are going
to get allocated to Southold Town, although I will say I found that
they h~ve been very cooperative the latter part of this summer and
this fall, they ha~e been very cooperative. We were able to get
some of the creeks that were closed opened and the dredging is still
under way and ~most completed for this year;
MR. MOYLE: The meeting you are speaking of, sometime in November,
is that something I can attend or not?
COUNCILMAN DRUM: Well, what we will do is we can arrange, I will
give you a call, and when we come by and look at your--at Corey
Creek--at Corey Creek inlet, at that particular time we can contact
and tell you specifically whaz time we will be there.
MR. MOYLE: Well, Councilman, I will say to you that my boat will be
in the ~ater at least until Thanksgiving Day so you are welcome to
the use of my boat.
COUNCILMAN DRUM: ~ appreciate that, thank you.
SUPERVISOR PELL:
4. From Islip Township reference to a local bottle bill law
which they hope the county will enact and they are asking the other
nine towns to study it and perhhaps support it. At this time we just
received it in the miil. We will study it and perhaps we will put
it on the agenda for the next Board meeting to make a comment on or
go back to them with our thoughts on it.
5. A letter requesting funds by the Southold Town Promotional
Committee. They did come in and talk to the Board today. We did
not really reach any agreement with them. In the Town Budget there
is $2,100.00 for publicity. They feel it should be a lot more and
we discussed the pros and cons today but at this time it remains the
same.
6. A Mailgram telling us that the preliminary population coun~
in the Town of Southold is 19,140 people. I have a little problem
accepting this because I met with John Behan about two weeks ago or
three weeks ago and he had figures that he was informed it was
19,800 people. So far we have three different numbers and nobody
can seem to agree on one. It is important because these figures are
what your per capita aid, state aid is based on for the next ten years.
Each person represents approximately $200 a year in aid and if you
lose enough of it over ten years you lost a lot o£ money, and I'm a
little thrifty.
7. A letter from Mr. Land, Southampton Township, saying that he
does not agree with the census count'~
8. A letter congratulating us on one of our police officers,
Burke, for a fine job he done in regards to an accident where a car
overturned and a man and wife was in it but didn't get hurt and what
a fine 3. ob he did. It is nic
police.
I think I'm going to ad
Department. I talked ~o the ,
ago they apprehended ~wo youn:
Marion. Which was very nice.
apprehended the people who tr
in Orient. They apprehended
to hear about the good work of the
ib a little bit right now. Police
~hief a~ suppertime. Last three days
men who broke into two homes in East
You read the papers today. They
~d to rob the Orienv Ferry boat terminal
oday some people who used a boat, Ou~
board to go on Robins Island, break into the house that is there, take
the television out and some other stuff out. The county police had
the lead, the ~own police got the lead and .gave it to them. They
chased it up ~o Westchester, New York, got the boat, outboard, got
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the people who came in today and turned themselves in with their
attorney; We have a rash of burglaries going on in our township.
Every township has them. I think we have made eight or nine arrests
within the last ten weeks. We do expect to make some more. But
the Chief called me today during the Board term, called me at home
and told me of the incident about getting the boat back, the out-
board and getting the stuff that was stolen out of the house, and
the other one in East Marion and there was one more he told me about.
But the police are working hard. The Suffolk Times paid them a very
nice tribute today in the editorial part of it, congratulating the
police force and they earn it and they are doing a good job.
9. Another letter from Dr. Zaki, County Public Health, on
carbon and it says carbon will not be permitted in the landfill.
But it also says it is a problem on getting rid of them and as they
progress and find a solutionthey will keep us informed but right
now they have no solution. In January it is estimated that some of
our area residents will have to have their filters recharged, in
January. So we have about sixty more days to find a solution out
of this.
10. Another request for Wickhams Creek to be dredged. Again
this comes under Councilman Drum's Committee, which he chairs. HaNk,
do you want to comment on it?
COUNCILMAN DRUM: I just want to say that it will be considered wit'h
the others, funds permitting.
SUPERVISOR PELL:
11. Reference to the sidewalks in'downtown Southold. Some are~
cracked an- people would like them to be repaired. I did have a
conversation with these people (Bertrice Small of the Fat Cat) and
told them we would talk to Mr. Dean about it and look az them but t'here
is a lot of sidewalks in Southold Town and everybody would like theirs
repaired all at once. I do have to say, as the person informed me at
the tiem, the ones in £ront of the Southold Town Hall are repaired. We
just got them repaired a couple of weeks ago, they were very bad
and cracked and took all the years since the Town Hall has been here
to get them repaired. We had to wait for our turn like everybody
else. But they are repaired in front of here and we will, Mr. Dean
will look at the ones down there.
12. A request for street lights on Rocky Point Road (East Marion).
We have put money aside for street lights in the federal revenue
sharing budget for this year. We have several requests and we will'
have in the near future a request made up of the appropriate street,
lights and poles and pass it all in one resolution when we buy the
lights. We have the money now to do it.
13. From the Southold Senior Citizens Club saying their group
is so large, when they meet up at the new center that they are runn~ing
out of tables and chairs~ The Town Board will--has money put aside
and we will work on this.
14. From the First Universalist Church of Southold in regards
to the North Fork Community Theatre building in Mattituck which was
put back on the tax rolls.
15. Is a request from the Inter-Agency Council, requesting that
the Village of Greenport--the Village of Greenport be included in the
$40,000.00 delinquency grant. We are going to sit down with our Ch;ief
of police and with the Villge Officials and see if we can work some~
thing out where they could be included in it. The Board feels it is
part of Southold Town and they should be.
16. A letter that was sent to the press, we got a copy of it.
It's in reference to nuclear power plants. The ones in Connecticut,
across Long Island Sound, telling us about their danger. (Letter
from North Fork Opponents of Nuclear Exposure).
17. Another one for Councilman Drum, his Inland Waterways
Committee. It's the fall of the year and everybody is requesting
to be number one on the priority list for next spring. Hank, you
are going to have quite a decision to make. How this works out,
Mr. Guildi will come out, meet here at Town Hall, physically get in
the car with Hank and the Committee and go around and visit every
site so they will have a firsthand site of what goes on, then come
back and sit down and evaluate the list they will present to the ToWn
Board.
Hearings weh~ill have in a minutes on the budget and The
federal revenue sharing.
On motion of Supervisor Pell, seconded by Councilman Murdock, it was
RESOLVED that a recess be called au 8:00 P.M. for the purpose of
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holding a public hearing on the matter of the 1981 preliminary
budget and intended u~e of 108t federal ~e~enue ~h~ing
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Sullivan, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman NIckles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
V. RESOLUTIONS
SUPERVISOR PELL: Number one, resolution number one, a request from
the Seniors Club 6f Southold-Peconic for two bus trips.
MR. HENRY LYTLE: Mr. Supervisor, May I address you in this matter?
Our committee chairman wrote the letter requesting $300.00 for
Bethpage and the trip has been oversubscribed many times and we
would like to amend that so it will read to use up whatever the
balance is in our fund, which I think is about $450.00 ~e' wish
to take $300.00 and the other $150.00 so it will wipe out the 1980
budget. I don't h~e the exac~ figures with me but Judy can g~t it
from the records, abotu $~50.00, instead of being $300.00
SUPERVISOR PELL: In the budgev resolution which we have prepared we
added on to ii, "within your budget". We will approve funds up until-
up ~o the amount you have allocated to your group. Other than that,
lika the other groups, you have ~o pick up the balance yourself.
MR. LYTLE: That's right, that's absolutely right.
SUPERVISOR PELL: The resolution will read as prepared--~ithin budget,
and then it will be your responsibility to pick up the balance.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: Will you be having more than one bus, Mr. Lytle?
Fo~ the Milleridge and the Christmas, or just the Milleridge?
MY LYTLE: Just the Milleridge.
1.On motion of Councilman Murdock, seconded by Councilman Drum, it was
RESOLVED that the Seniors Club df Southold-Peconic, Inc. be and
hereby are granted permission to hire one bus at a cost of $350.00
to take their group to New York on December 3, 1980 ~o view the
Christmas decoarations and attend the theatre, and two buses to take
their group to Old Bethpage and Milleridge Inn for lunch on November
20, 1980, using the balance ~n their .Town account and supplementing
the remainder of the cost from their own funds.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
2.On motion of Councilman Sullivan, seconded by Councilman Nickles, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southol~ grants permission
to the Southodl P.T.A. to use Hobart Road and Boisseau Avenue as
assembly areas for their "Happy Holiday" Parade on November ~2, 1980
at 10:~30 A.M., provided they secure the necessary insurance to hold
the Town of Southold harmless.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Sullivan, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pall.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
3.On motion of Councilman Nickles, seconded by Councilman Murdock, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of SoUthold authoirzes pay-
roll deductions for employees of the Town of Southold who wish to
join the Suffolk Federal Credit Union.
Vote of']~the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Sullivan, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
On motion of Councilman Nicklas, seconded by Councilman Murdock, it was
RESOLVE~ that the Town Board of the Town of Southo~ wil~ h6~d:~g public
She~'2a~da~-of Decembe~-~'1980~at '8:~ P~'M., at which ~ime and place
~i~'intSr~ste~?~a~s0nE:~ be'~-giye~an oppar, tunity'to be. heard upon
~the ~p~!~ow,!ng~m~t~'r?~!- ~'~ ~ALoca~.La~t~P~ovide~'for-the Regulations and
~e'°~Re~!ion~l A~e~s ~n th~ ToWn' of Southold" which reads as
follows: '
The Code o~ the Tow o£ Southold is hereby amended by adding a new
Chapter thereto~ to be Chapter 62, to read as follows'~
'--~ ..... USE REGULATIONS A~ND RESTRICTIONS
::.'.;-. ..:- . .. .',:. ? .- . .
As used in this -Chaptsr, the following~terms, phrases, words and their
derivations shall have the meaning given herein.
RECREATIONAL ARE.kS - Includes all parks.~ Playgrounds, athletic fields, boat launch:
lng ramps, and other recreational areas, including approaches, driveways, parking-
areas, and buildings and structures located thereon 'owned, leased or operated by th~
Town of Southold. . .
SUPERINTENDENT ~' Shall mean the head of the Department of Public Works of the
Town of Southold, who shall be in charge, of all Recreational Areas.
VEHIC] may 'be mounted on wheels and is or may be pro-
pelled either by. its own power or by another power driven vehicle to which i~ may be
type or description.
~ - '. §6~r2 'Recreational Area Property.
No person in a Recreationa,1 area shall:
~ A. l~Iark, de£aee, injure or damage any building,' structure, property
or equipment in or on any recreational area.
B. Dig and/or remove sand or gra-vel or other material from a
recreational area; nor cut, carve, remove or otherwise~darr~age
- any tree or plant in such areas.
C: Hunt, molest,- disturb, injnre or. kilt any animal or mammal' in
or on any recreational area.
. D. Bring~n or_ump,~ deposi~ or lea~e' any bottles, broken glass,
ashes, paper boxes, cans, dirt; rubbish, waste, garbage or
. _ refuse or other trash. No such re~use or trash shall be placed
- in any waters or left anywhere on the recreational area grounds,
but shall be placed in the prop}r receptacles where these are
provided; where receptacles- are not so provided, all such rubbish
or waste shall be carried away from the recreational area by
-- .i: lhe person responsible' for its presence and properly d~sposed of
' ' elsewhere.
NO person in a recreational area'shall:
A. Fail ~o comply with all applicable provisions of the state motor
vehicle traffic laws, laws of the Town of Southold in regard to
equipment and operation Of vehicles.
Fail to obey all traffic officers and recreational area employees,
such persons being hereby authorized and instructed to direct
traffic whenever and wherever needed in the' recreational area
and on the highways, streets or roads immediately adjacent.
thereto in accordance :with the provisions of these regulations and
such supplementary regulations as may be issued subsequently
by the Superintendent.
C; Fail tojObserve:, carefully all traffic signs indicating speed, diregtion,
caution, and all others posted for p~oper :.
control ~ ~ and property. '-~
ID. Ride or drive a vehicle at a rate of speed exceeding ten (I0) rni!~s-,,
per hour, except upon such roads as the Superintendent may
designate by posted signs for speedier travel.
Drive any vehicle on any area except the payed roads or parking
areas or such other areas as may on occasion be specifically
designated as temporary parking areas by the Superintendent.
area, and such use shall be ln accordance with the posted
instructions thereat and with the i~4Structions of any attendant
who may be present.
Fail to immediately notify an Attendant of an emergency in
nature of a breakdown requiring the assistance of a tow truck,
mechanic or other person.
Fail to use a 'muffler adequate to deaden the sound of the engine
in a motor vehicle.
Repair, wash, wax or perform other maintenance on his or
another vehicle.
J. The provisions of this Chapter Shall not applyto the following- .~
motor vehicles: :
(1)
(2)
Motor vehicles of the United States of America, the State
of New York, ~he County of Suffolk, the Town of Southold,
and any agency, instrumentality or department thereofl
when used on official business, or motor vehicles operated
by officers or employees of such governmental agencies
when used on. official business.
l%{otor vehicles commandeered for use by police officers in
the performance of their duties.
(3) Ambulances or motor vehicles used as ambulances.
(4)
(5)
Motor vehicles operated by a fire department or fire
district in the performance of its duty.
:Motor t~ehictes used for l~unching and hauling boais at
public boat launching sites.
Bathing and swimming.
No person shall:
A.
SwimJ' bathe or w.~de 'in any waters or water,rays in or adjacent
to any recreational area except in such waters and at such places
as are provided therefor, and in' compliance with such regulations
as are herein set forth or may be hereafter adopted. Nor shall
any person frequent any waters or places customarily designated
for the purpose of swimming or bathing, or congregate thereat,
when such activity is prohibited by the Superintendent upon a
finding that such use of the water would be dangerous or otherwise
inadvisable. Such designated bathing areas shall be kept free
from any form of water equipment or other floating objects or any
other form of device that in the Superintendent's judgment may
cause inconvenience, injury or discomfort to bathers, except if
such equipment is intended for the protection of life.
Ce
Frequent any waters or places designated for the purpose of
swimming or bathing, or congregate thereat, except between
such hours of lhe day as shall be designated by the Superintendent
for such purposes for each individual area.
Erect, maintain, use or occupy on or in any beach or bathing
area any tent, shelter or structure of any kind unless there
shall be an unobstructed view into said tent, Shelter or structure
from at lease two (2) sides~ nor shall any guy wire, rope or
e~ension or exterior brace or support be connected or fastened
from any such structure to any other structure, stake, rock or '
other object thereof.
Dress or undress on any beach or in any vehicle, toilet room
or other place, except in such bathing houses or structures as
may be provided for that purpose.
$62-$ Beach activities.
No person shall:
bathing. .
B. Fish offshore from town-operated beaches e~cept from such
portions thereof as may be staked off and posted therefor, nor
shall any person at any time fish in guy area while bathing is
permitted. - .....
potentially harmful to wildlife and dangerous to human safety, or any' '
instrument that. can be loaded with' and fire blank cartridges., or any
kind of trapping device; Shooting into recreational areas from bey. end
their boundaries is forbidden.
~ 2-~ Use of picnic areas.
No person shall:.
Picnic in a place other than those places' designated for that
purpose by the Superintendent; Recreation area representatives
shall have the authority to regulate the activities in such areas
when necessary to prevent congestion and to secure the maximum
use for the comfort and convenience of all. Visitors shall
comply with any direc~iions given to achieve this end. Ail
organized picnics and outings shall first obtain a special permit
from the Superintendent
Violate the regrulation~hat use of ~the individual fireplaces,
together with tables and benches, follows gene.rally the rule
of "first .come, -first served, "except if it is an organized picnic
and exhibits a permit duly issued by the Superintendent.
C. Use any portion of the picnic areas' or of any of the buildings or
structures therein for the purpose of holding picnics to the
exclusion of other persons, tier shall any person use such area
and facilities for an unreasonable time if the facilities are :lcrowded.
E. Leave a picnic area before a fire is completely extinguished
and before all trash in the nature of boxes, papers, cans,
. .bottles, garbage and other refuse is placed in lhe disposal
receptacles where provided. If no such trash receptacles
are available,' then refuse and trash shall be carried away
from the recreational area by'lhe picnicker, to be properly
disposed of elseaVhere.
$62-8 Games.
No person Shall take part in or abet the playing of any games involving thrown
or otherwise propelled objects, such as balls, stones, arrows, javelins or model
airplanes, except in areas set apart for such forms of recreation. The playing of
active sports or .games such as football, baseball and golf is prohibited except~ on
the fields and courts or areas provided therefor.
$62-9
Behavior and conduct.
No person shall:
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A.'-- Be present in any recreational area while under the influence of
intoxicating.: liquor. _
B. Bring a dog or other domestic animsl, into recreational areas
other than automobile parking concourses and walks immediately
adjacent thereto. Nothing herein shall be construed as permitting
the running of dogs at large. All dogs in those areas where such
animals are p~rmitted shall be restrained at all times on adequate -
leashes not greater than four (4)' feet in length. ;
C. Build or attempt to build a fire except in such areas and under such
regulations as may be designated by the Superintendent.
D. Fail to produce and exhibit any permit from /he Superintendent
which he claims to have, upon request of any authorized person
who shall desire to inspect the same for the.purpose of enforcing
compliance with any law or rule.
]Disturb or interfere unreasonably with any person or party
occupying any area or participating in an activity under the
authority of a permit.
F. Erect any structure, stand or platform, or hold any meetings,
perform any cerernony, make a speech or address, exhibit any
performance or form any parade or procession in any recreatioua!
area without first obtaining authorization,
llecreationaI-A~eas shall be open to the public at such p~riods and during suCh
hours
area
§62-I~1 Rules and regulations
of the town board. It shall be the duty of the
and closing hours in each recreafi0ual
The Superintendent shall be authorized to otherwise set down rules and regula-
tions that he m~y deem proper to maintain the safety and welfare of those persons
using town recreational areas as defined herein.
§62-12 Enforcement; penalties for offenses.
The Superintendent and recreational area personnel shall, in
connection with their duties imposed by law,' diligently enforce
the provisions of this Chapter,
B. The Superintendent, any recreational ai'ea personnel'or members
of the Southold Town Police Department have the authority
enforce~.and/or eject from the recreational area any person
:~ violatin~ the proviz'ions of ::this Chapter or any other provisions
of law.
In akidition to an3- other penalty as provided for by law, any person
or ~ersons. association or corporation committing an offense
against this Chapter or any section or provision thereof is guilty
of a violation punishable by a fine .not exceeding two hundred fifty
dotlmrs {$250. ) or imprinsonment for a period not exceeding
fifieem {15~ days for each such offense, or by both such fine and
imprisonment.
The Superintendent and any recreational area personnel shall have
the authority to seize and confiscate any property, thing or device
in the recreational area or used in violation of this Chapter.
§62-13 This Local Law shall take effect immediately.
Vote ,of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Sullivan, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Number 5 we are not ready to act upon. We are
going to put it on the agenda on the 18th. We are going to wait
on that we want a little more information. The firm that came
in low bid is not a firm that any of us know. We would like to
check them out a little bit before we award the bid to them. (Bid
for computerization~of tax rolls.)
Number 6. The entire Town Board went out today down to the Nutrition
Program for lunch. They had Veterans Day there and they invited the
Town Board down and we had a very nice lunch there. I can't speak
enough about the chef, Jerry King. The resolution is for him.
6.On motion of Councilman Murdock, seconded by Councilman Drum, it was
RESOLVED that the salary and fringe benefits of Gerald King, chef,
Nutrition Center, will be paid by the Town of Southold as of October
1, 1980; and monies expended from the General Fund for this purpose
will be reimbursed by the County of Suffolk.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Sullivan, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared dulyr-adopted.
7. On motion of Councilman Drum, seconded by-.Councilman Nickles, it was
RESOLVED that the application of George A. McCarthy dated October
23, 1980 for pe~S~on to locate a house trailer on-.a private road
off of the south side of Main Road, Laurel, New York, be and hereby
is renewed for a six (6) month period.
Vote Qf the Town Board; Ayes; Councilman Sullivan, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Dmum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolu~iQn was declared duly adopted.
8. On motion of Councilman Drum, seconded by Council,man Sullivan, it was
RESOLVED that the application of Carl Frelix, Jr.~ dated October 23,
1980, for permission to locate a house trailer on a. private road off
of the north side of ~ain Road, Mattituck, New York, be and he hereby
is renewed for a six (6) month period.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Sullivan, Councilman
Murd~ck, C~uncdlm~n Nickles, Councilman Drum~ Supervisor
This resolution Was declared duly adopted.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Number 9. The Town Board is not ready to.~ove
on today. We will meet as a Town Board Tuesday of ne.xt week, the
committee will meet, which I will chair, at 8:00 A,~,, full Tow,n
Board at 9:00 A.M. to go and discuss the insurance policies of the
Town and see the feasibility of going out to competitive bid~
Number 10 is from the Inter-Agency Council. A little explaination
on this one befo~e we go to resolution on it, Last meeting the
~utho!d Town Board approved to give to the Inter-Agency C~uncil
$100.00 ~o help them pay for a pamphlet which they are putting out.
We thought we were being very nice in giving it to them at the time
and we sent a letter to them telling them thi's. The lady, Dr.
Wet,is, came back to me and gave me a letter and l'lt read part of
it to you: "May 14, 1979. Dear Mr. Martocchia: On behalf of the
Council we want to thank you for g~anting us $200..00 for our pamphlet."
On May 14, 1979 this Board approved to give them $200.00 They never
used it, never got the booklet ~ogether until this past time, thinking
they stilI had the $200.00 coming ~o them in last year~s budget, We
want to honor eld requests so I will ask ~he Board ~o approve another
$100.00 ~o live up ~o our obligation that was made in 1979 to g~ve
the Inter-Agency Council $100.00 fo fulfill the pamphlet request made
at that time.
10.On motion of Supervisor Pell, seconded by Councilman Nickles, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold allocate $100.00
to the Inter-Agency Council to aid them in preparing their Directory.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Sullivan, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor PeZ1.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Number 11 we are not ready to move on yet. We
haven't got all the requirements we need. It is regarding going to
bid to change the sprinkler system in Town Hall. I need more informa-
tion on that before we can go to bid.
NOVEMBER 6, 1980
12. On motion of Councilman Nickles, seconded by Councilman Sullivan, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board declares itself lead agency in
regard to the State Environmental Quality Review Act in the matter
of the application of Enconsultants, Inc. £or Paradise Point Corp-
oration for a Wetland Permit on certain property at a man-made basin
off Briar Lane, Paraidse Point, Bayview, Southold, New York.
Vote of the Town Board: t yes: Councilman Sullivan, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
13. On motion of Councilman Murdock, seconded by Councilman Drum, it was
RESOLVED that theTown Board of the Town of Southold set 3:30 o'clock
P.M., Tuesday, November 18, 1980, Southold Town Hall, MainRoad,
Southold, New York as time and place for hearing upon application
of Henry Pierce for a permit under the provisions of the Wetland
Ordinance of the Town of Southold for permission to construct a
walkway, ramp and floats at the east side of Wells Road, on Richmond
Creek, Peconic, New York.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Sullivan, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Poll.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
14. On motion of Councilman Drum, seconded by Councilman Murdock, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of SoUthold set 3:35 o'clock
P.M., Tuesday, November 18, 1980, Southold Town Hall, Main Road,
Southold, New York as time and place for hearing upon application of
Joseph and Janet Gold for a permit under the provisions of the
Wetland Ordinance o£ the Town of Southold for permission to construct
a dock, catwalk, ramp and float at the north side of Haywaters Road
at Haywaters Cove, Cutchogue, New York.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Sullivan, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Poll.
This resolution was declard duly adopted.
15. On motion of Councilman Nickles, seconded by Councilman Sullivan, it was
RESOLVED thatthe Town Board o£ the Town of Southodl set 3:40 o'clock
P.M., Tuesday, New York as time and place for hearing upon application
of Rita F. Gledich for a permit under the provisions of the Wetland
Ordinance of the Town of Southold for permission to construct a
catwalk, ramp and £1oats at east side of Oak Street, on East
Creek, Cutchogue, New York.
Vote of the Town'Boar'd: Ayes: Councilman Sullivan, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
16. On motion of Councilman Sullivan, seconded by Councilman Nickles, it was
RESOLVED that theTown Board of the Town of Sonthold set 3:45 o~clock
P.M., Tuesday, November 18, 1980, Southold Town Hall, Main Road,
Southold, New York as time and place for hearing upon application
of Enconsultants, Inc. for Ali Agarabi for a permit under the
provisions of the Wetland Ordinance Of the Town of Southold for
permission to construct a dock, catwalk, ramp, and float at the
south side of Westview Drive, on Mattituck Creek, Mattituck, New York.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Sullivan, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
17. On motion of Councilman Drum, seconded by Councilman N~ckles, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of SouthQld set 3:50 o'clock
P.M., Tuesday, November 18, 1980, South01d Town Hall, Mainj:Road,
~outhold. Ne~ York as. time and ~lac~ of hearin u n'ap~t~ca~ion
o~-~e~e~lan~'~Or'd~nance o~ '~e ~6w~ 6~ ~6n~old for permission to
construct a dock, catwalk, ramp and float at the south side of West-.
view Drive, on Mattituck[:Creek, Mattituck, New York.
¥ote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Sullivan, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
SUPERVISOR PELL: We had quite a time today at Town Board about the
previous resolutions, five of them, that we just read. The DEC
holds a hea?ing, or whatever, on these ~ think t~ Army Engineers
does, why does the Town Board also hold one? We thought of perhaps
eliminating it and doing away with one more level but yet on a local
level the only time the local people would have to speak at a. hearing
is the one that the Town Board does hold on these things on a local
level to give the people a chance to h~e an input mn_it is why it
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is done. Councilman Nickles brought that up today and we had quite
a discussion--debate on why it should be done and all about it. That's
the reason why, to give the local folks a chance.
18. On motion of Councilman Nickles, seconded by Councilman Murdock,
WHEREAS, the Town of Southold has heretofore entered in to a
Contract with the North Fork Animal League for dog control
services, and
WHEREAS, t~e Animal League desires to employ persons as enumerators
to ascertain the names of all persons in the Town who own or harbor
dogs,
NOW, THEREFORE, IT IS RESOLVED that prusuant to Section 114, Sub-
division 7 of the Agriculture and Markets Law, the North Fork Animal
LeaGue is hereby authorized, at its own expense, to ascertain and
list the names of all persons in the Town of Sotuhold owning or
harboring dogs.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Sullivan, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
19. On motion of Councilman Drum, seconded by Councilman Nicktes, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hire Frank D.
Tyler, Pike Street, Mattituck, New York as a School Crossing G~a~d
at $15.00 per day.
Vote of the Town Board: byes: Councilman Sullivan, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman NIckles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Number 20 goes to Councilman Murdock. I want
to explain so you don't laugh like John just did when I gave him
the one on the Dog Pound. Every Councilman is assigned a committee
to chair or to work on, special projects. This is why we go back
and forth, who ever special project it is we let them explain to
you. If I do it I might leave something out. They attend the
meetings and Larry This is yours.
COUNCILMAN MURDOCK: We have begun an ongoing 201 study with the
Village of Greenport and Town o£ Shelter Island and Town of Southold
to try to solve the peoblem of wh~t to do with our honey wagons and
the sludge therefrom and we had hire H2M Corporation to make the
study and make the report vo the Town and the Village and meanwhile
the Federal EPA passed a new set of laws saying that we had to have
a further study and further hearings to allow more public participation.
We have had three--~wo or three meetings with the EPA and H2M negotiating
the amount of-steps that they wanted in their public participation
program. We have crystalized it down from their original request
of $24,000. worth of studies to $9~,~000. some odd hundred worth of
studies and we think we are down as low with ~hem as we can go.
20. On motion of Councilman Murdock, seconded by Councilman Drum, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes
Greenport Village Mayor George Hubbard to execute EPA form 5700-41,
Cost or Price Summary Format for Subagreements Under U_.S. EPA Grants,
in connection with the Public Participation Program for the Greenport-
Southo%d/ Shelter Island 201 Study; said Public Participation Program
not to exceed a cost of $800.00 for Southold Town's share.
COUNCILMAN NICKLES: I'd like ~o compliment Councilman Murdock.
and the Supervisor of Shelter Island, Barbara Keyser, that thisi
study is asinine to cost the Town Board $24,000.00 And as Larry
pointed out, so far they haven't been~able to tell us what to do
with The sludge but he and Barbara told them what to do with the
$24,000.00. I think that he should be complimented for the effort
he put in on ~his and getting this program for public hearing cut
down fromo $24,000.00 to $9,800.00 of which the Town's share is going
to be one third of $1,228.00 and the balance is paid for by state
and federal funding.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Sullivan, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted
21. On motion of Supervisor Pell, seconded by Councilman Drum, it was
RESOLVED that pursuant no Section 64 (I-A) of the Town Law, a
petty cash fund is hereby established for Receiver of Taxes George
Mell~s,in the amount of $200.00
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Sullivan, Councilman
NOV~,MBER 6, 1980
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
22.On motion of Councilman Murdock, seconded by Councilman Drum, it was
RESOLVED that the following tranfers be made within the Fishers
Island Ferry District budget:
From: Insurance
To: Payrolls
Social Security
From: Repairs Ferry
To: Insurance Claims
From: Hospitalization
To: Accounting
Office Expense
From : Reparis Ferry
$5,000.00
4,500.00
500.00
$1,000.00
1,000.00
$ 708.57
106.00
602.57
$1,000.00
To: Repairs Buildings &~ 1,000.00
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes:D~8~cilman Sullivan, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman NIckles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was.declared duly adopted.
23. On motion of Councilman NIckles, seconded by Supervisor Pell, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold approves the
action of the Boardof Commissioners of the Fishers Island Ferry
District in entering into a contractual lease agreement with A.
Richard Grebe, Jr. for the leasing of the westerly half of building
no. 383 at an annual rent of $1,200.00
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Sullivan, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
Thissresolution was declared duly adopted.
SUPERVISOR PELL: the next four Or five you do not have, the Board
has them, they came in after the agenda was prepared. Number 23 is
a trailer renewal in Mattituck.
24..On motion of Councilman Drum, seconded by Councilman NIckles, it was
RESOLVED that the application of William P. Rutand, dated Octoner 23,
1980 for the renewal of his trailer permit at the corner of Route 25
and Mill Lane, Mattituck, New York, be and he hereby is renewed for a
six (6) month period.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Sullivan, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
25,On m~tion of Councilman Murdock, seconded by Councilman Drum, it was
RESOLVED that the application of Sophie Saunders, dated October 23,
1980, for the renewal of her trailer permit at the north side of
Main Road, Laurle, New York, be and hereby is granted for a six (6)
month period.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Sullivan, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman DRum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declard duly adopted.
SUPERI?SOR PELL: Number 26 is a transfer of funds. It is a rather
lengthy transfer. We tried to look into the crystal ball and transfer
the necessary ~unds that will carry us for the rest of the year so We
will not have to transfer again until December 28 or December 30th, the
last Board meeting we have this year. It is rather lengthy, I donut
really want to read it all or have it read all, do we have to Bob?
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: I think you should.
On motion of Councilman Sullivan, seconded by Councilman Murdock, it was
RESOLVED that the following monies be transferred in the General Fund
Whole Town Budget:
To: Al010.4, Councilm~n, Contractual $2,992.16
From: Al010.1, Councilmen~ Personal Services $1,450.00
Alll0.1, Justices, Personal Services $147.79
A1990.4, Contingent, $1,394.37
From:
To:
From:
Alll0.1, Justices, Personal Services $1.002.21
All10.4, Justices, Contractual $1,002.21
A1220.2, Supervisor, Equipment $606.45
A1990.4, ~Contingent $243.34
NOVEMBER 6, 1980
To: A1220.4, Supervisor, Contractual $849.79
From: A1620.1, Buildings, Personal Services $6,909.67
To: A1620.4, Buildings, Contractual $6,909.67
From: A1990.4, Contingent $1,010.99
To: A3310.4, Traffic Control, Contractual $1,010.99
From: A1990.4, Contingent $389.87
To: A3510.4, Control of Dogs, Contractual $389.87
From: A1990.4 Contingent $28Q~.00
To: A3620.4, Examining Board, Contractual $280.00
From: A1990.4 Contingent $4,820.18
To: A8160.4 Disposal Area, Contractual $4,820.18
and. be if FURTHER RESOLVED that the following monies be transferred
From: B3130.2, Bay Cosntable, Equipment $389.54
To: B3130.4, Bay Constable, Contractual $389.54
From: B3620.2, Building Inspector, Equipment $507.27
To: B3610.4,Building Inspector, Contractual $507.27
From: Unexpended Balance $5,000.00
To: B3120.4,.Police, Contractual $5,000.00
From: B9060.8, Hospitalization $98.00
To: B9050.8, Unemployment Insurance $98.00
Vote of the Town Board: AyesL Councilman Sullivan, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman NIckles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
26. On motion of Councilman Nickles, seconded by Councilman Drum, it was
RESOLVED that the following a~dited bills be ~nd hereby are ordered
paid: General Fund Whole Town bills in the amount of $26,067.47;
General Fund Part Town bills in zhe amount of $15,550.21; Highway
Department bills in the amount of $44,321.75; Federal Revenue Sharing
bills in the amount of $3,154.62; Fishers Island Ferry Dislrict
bills in the amount of $36,843.57; C.D. Block Grant Program-Libraries
bills in the amount of $5,510.76; Youth SDPP Program bills in the
amount of $33.95; Medicare Reimbursement-Highway bills in the amount
of $1,955.40; and Medicare Reimbursement-Whole Town bills in the
amount of $2,198.40.
Vote of theTown Board: Ayes: Councilman Sullivan, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum; Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly admpted.
27. On motion of Councilman Drum, seconded by Councilman Murdock, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold authorizes the
Superintendent of Highways to have Long Island Lighting Company
install a light on LILCO Pole No. 392 at Marlene Lane and Route 25,
Mattituck, New York.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Sullivan, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman NIckles, Councilman DRum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
28. On mozion of Supervisor Pell, seconded by Councilman DRum, it was
RESOLVED that based on the determination of Commissioner Flacke of
the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation, the
Town Board of theTown of Southold declares itself lead agency in
the matte~f the reconstruction of three bridges at Mud, Downs,
and WEst Creeks in the Town of Southold on New Suffolk Avenue.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Sullivan, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman NIckles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
SUPERVISOR PELL: I have one more item to bring up, is the committee
assignment I am going to assign to one of the Councilmen. Do any
of the Councilman have anything to bring up at this time.
COUNCILMAN NICKLES: Yes, Bill. As you know, ~the Town has a franchise
agreement with the Long Island Cablevision Corporation and Tuesday
night they kind of let us down again and we on the Town Board, Mr.
Pell and the Councilmen get a lot of phone calls when Cablevision
doesn't work out properly. Needless to say Tuesday night was election
returns for the Presidential race and many other races and people were
looking forward to it and of course they were disappointed when Cable-
vision went off sometime after 5 o'clock and didn't come back until
the next morning. After getting a lot of complaints yesterday ~ wrote
the following letter to Richard Tuthill, General Manager, Long Island
Cablevision TV Corporation, Route 28 and Osprey Avenue, Riverhead, New
York. "Dear Mr. Tuthill: I am stunned by the Long Island CATV's
cavalier treatment of the CATV subscribers of Southold Town. A
Presidential Election is a historic event. Your CATV service failed
shortly after 5 P.M. and was not restored until today. Last night's
loss of CATV service compounded by your inability to restore the
service within a reasonable length of time was the "final straw". It
now has become clear that we have become a captive audience without
any alternative. I am certain that if you did not have a monopoly in
Southold Town - Long Island CATV would have noticed a distinct drop
in the number of subscribers. I don't know what can be done to
terminate the franchise agreement or whether we ha~e a choice of
renewing theis agreement when it expires - but I do know I am going
to find a way. I will suggest to the public that they call the TOLL
FREE number 800-342-3350 of the New York State Commission on Catv
for consumer complaints where their complaints will have more impact
than calling your oSfice." I think all of us are tired of having
subscribers call their oSSice when they have a problem and get treated
in an offhand manner or in a rude fashion and I am going to ask as
we spoke about earlier today that the Supervisor invite the Manager
down here for the next Town Board m-eting. Earlier this year we
instituted a monthly report for them where they send us in a kind of
score card on the kind of complaints they had and how they~were
handled. That still hasn't, I think, resolved, the porbtem, but we
are trying and we'll give them hell when they come down.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Yesterday I tried myself aster I had got in Town
Hall yesterday mroning and the phone started ringing and we put in
I don't know how many calls and tried to get through. We never could
get through ~o them. Ray Dean was here today and said his wife tried
for over Two hours just sitting there pushing the buttons on the
telephone. After Two hours and something she finally got through
on complaining about service. The letter is already Typed and will
go out the first thing in the morning inviting him down toe.our meeting
on the 18th.
Any other Board members have anything?
COUNCILMAN DRUM: Good letter, John.
SUPERVISOR PELL: As I said before, the Town Board is planning to move
the Judges in here and the Councilmen's office will be set up and we
have to get furniture, desks, chairs, telephone in and what not and
I'm going to.~ask and appoint Councilman Murodck to work with me to
· get the equipment set up and se everybody will feel at home when they
come in.
The floor is yours, does anybody wish to address the Board?
MR. LYTLE: Mr. ~,upervisor, on Item II of resolutions, aren't
Wiedersum Associates the original architects of this building?
SUPERVISOR PELL: They are the original architects of the west half.
When they d~signed this building and put it up they have correspondence
on the sprinkler system that was put in with the Town people at that
tiem and the sprinkler system does not meet the fire insurance under-
writers specs to give us a lower rate.
MY LYTLE: I understand the reason but I am just wondering whether
they weren't partly responsible for the conditions?
SUPERVISOR PELL: They brought this up to the attention oS the Town
Board at the time.
MR. LYTLE: The east end was not up to standards?
SUPERVISOR PELL: This side is not half bad. This side is going to
be fairly inexpensive. We have enough sprinkler heads around here.
MY LYTLE: This is going to help your insurance premiums?
SUPERVISOR PELL: $5,000.00 a year.
NOVEMBER 6, 1980
MR. LYTLE: I am just wondering if they are the proper ones to go
back to. Are they doing it on a reasonable basis?
SUPERVISOR PELL: They are doing it on a precentage fee. Their
percent charge as any other architect percent charge would be of
about ten percent.
COUNCILMAN NICKLES: I wasn't here then but my understanding is
that the Town got what they paid for, not that Wiede~sum Associates
planned the sprinkler system improperly. ',Those,people who were
here before me can agree or disagree with thav but I thought during
our discussions relative to updating the sprinkler system it was
not an error or ommission or any o£ that type of thing. If any of
you~have ever built a house you know somewhere along the line you
have to de6~de whether you wanv the B cabinets or the A cabinets
and you have X amount of dollars to do the job and I presume this
is why fire protection was provided but it wasn't the type that
would give us the most benefit insurance -wise and at that time I
guess the Board had to evaluate what kind of building you were
going to have and what kind of money you were going to have to build
it with.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Exactly, John is absolutely right. I was ~rying
to say it a little bit nicer.
Anybody else wish to address the Board? If not, gentlemen,
the motion is in order.
On motion of Councilman Drum, seconded by Councilman NIckles, it was
RESOLVED that there being no further business to come before this
Town Board meeting adjounrment be called at 8:55 P.M.
Vote of the Town Board: Councilman Sullivan, Councilman
Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Councilman Drum, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly adopted.
'Judith T. Terry~
Town Clerk