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SOUTHOLD 'TOWN 'BOARD
AUGUST 23, 1983
WORK SESSION
9:00 A.M. - The Board began reviewing agenda and'off agenda items.
11:10 A.M. -'Mr. David Spohn, North Fork Aviation Association met
with the Board to discuss the proposed Consultant Agreement between
the Town and PRC Speas for an Airport Site Selection/Master Plan
Study. (A resolution is on the agenda to appoint PRC Speas.) Mr.
Spohn also updated the Board on the Down-State Aviation Study, for
which he is the Town's representative.
11:15 A.M. - Mrs. Jean Cochran updated the Board on the Festival
Week activities, beginning August 27th with the Youth Projecti'on
dedication of their beautification project behind the Town Hal~l~
and the subsequent tour of the Town Hall. August 28th - Art exhibit
at the Senior/Youth Center from 12 Noon 4 P.M., August 29th -
Bill Golder will speak on the indian history of Southold Town at
the Senior/Youth Center at 7:30 P.M., August 30th - Clam chowder
supper and concert at the Senior/Youth Center at 6 P.M., August ~
31st - John Eilerton will speak on folk lore at the Senior/Yout-h
Center at 7:30 P.M., September 1st - Children's box supper au the
Senior/Youth Center at 6:00 P.M., with entertainment to foltdw~
September 2nd - Cocktail party at the Southold Town Beach honoring
past and present elected officials at 6 P.M., September 3rd - Farmer's
and Festival Fair at the Southold School Grounds from 10 A.M. to
5 P.M.
11:35 A.M. - Mrs. Giadys Csajko, North Fork Animal Welfare League,
Inc. met with the Board to request reducing the security bend being
held by the Town under the League's contract for the Dog Pound from
$10,000.00 to $5,000.00. The Board agreed to the reduction, but a
resolution must be placed on the next agenda to amend the contract
before reducing the bond.
11:45 A.M. Recess for lunch.
2:00 P.M. - EXECUTIVE SESSION
The Board discussed a request for a real property tax exemption,
personnel, litigation.
WORK SESSION
3:00 P.M. - Mr. Robert Hyatt, builder, addressed the Board concern-
ing the denial of his application for a building permit to place a
4 foot addition on a garage located in the front yard. He stated
that more leniency should be given to the Town Board in situations
such as his. The Board advised Mr. Hyatt that the Building Department
must follow the law to the letter and does no% have the power to
deviate from it. (Further discussion with Mr. Hyatt was had follow-
ing the regular meeting.)
REGULAR MEETING
A Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board was held on
Tuesday, August 23, 1983 at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road,
SoUthold, New York. Supervisor Pell opened the meeting with ~he
Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag at 3:10 P.M.
Present:
Supervisor William R. Pell, III
Councilman John 'J. Nickles
Councilman Lawrence Murdock, Jr.
Councilman Francis J. Murphy
Councilman Joseph L. Townsend, Jr.
Justice Raymond W. Edwards
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Town Clerk Judith T. Terry
Town Attorney Robert W. Tasker
Moved by Supervisor Pell, seconded by Councilman Murphy, it was
RESOLVED that th.e audited General ~und Whole Town bills in the
amount of $325.66 be and hereby are ordered paid.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
MOved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED That the next Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board
will be held at 7:30 P.M., Tuesday, September 6, 1983 at ~he
Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR PELL: At this time I'd like to break in and welcome
the Boy Scouts from the scout camp in Baiting HoIIow. I attended
that camp one year myself, way back when, don't want to say how
far back. We welcome you to the Southold Town Hall. We under-
stand you're working for your communications badge and work toward
_your eagle badge. You have a spokesman with you and I wish the
spokesman would get up and tell us exactly a few words. Mr.
Mitchell, use the mike please.
MR. MITCHELL: Ladies and gentlemen, this is a new experiment.
This is the first time we have had an Eagle Training Troop in
Baiting Hollow. It is made up of young men, young scouts who
are life and star, who are endeavoring To accomplish their Eagle
requirements to receive the highest coveted award in scouting.
Suffolk is exceptional, I'd like to add this, the national average
is about one and a half percent of every scout becomes an Eagle.
In Suffolk we do a little better. We make it five and a half
percent. So we're very.proud of our record. I'm very proud of
these young men and we've only had three days of it but they,re
already accomplishing quite a nice record. Thank you for having
us here and I appreciate the indulgence of the Town Board. Thank
you.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Thank you, Mr. Mitchell. If I could say one thing
to the boys, I sat in this chair for three and a half years and I
have four or five more months to go and I'm not going to run for
reelection. If I could pick out one single thing that I enjoyed
during this three and a half years the most, it would be represent-
ing this Town Board when we award an Eagle Scout who makes the grade.
To me and my wife that has been the most satisfying event, to see a
young man that made it. I know the national average is one and a
half. I never knew what Suffolk was, but in.Southold Town we. have
excellent excellent scout leaders, men like yourself who are here,
the adults, who are willing to give of their time and of their
energy and of their personal lives to help and train cadets, young
scouts like yourselves. In Southold Town we have a fine group of
men and women who five up their time ~o train new boys and it has
paid Off. In Southold Town we have usually anywheres from five
to eight Eagle Scouts a year and as I said, if I had to pick one
event that I enjoyed the most, Mrs. Pell and I enjoyed attending
the Eagle Awards nights.
I. REPORTS
SUPERVISOR PELL: These reports are placed on file with the Town
Clerk if anybody cares to review them can do so at the Town Clerk's
Office.
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
Town Justice report - Justice Tedeschi July 1983.
Police Department's monthly report - July 1983.
Long Island Cablevision's monthly report - July 1983.
Town Justice report - Justice Price - July 1983.
Councilmen's reports. Councilman Townsend, anything you
would care to report?
COI~NCILMAN TO~NSEND: Just one thing. Jim McMahon and Gladys Csajko
h~ve been working with various builders and local architect, Garret
Strang to 'exact, and they're making progress in coming up with
~igures and dimensions for an addition to the Dog Pound. I expect
£o have·tentative cost estimates to present to the Board next month-
on this As you know, we're trying to get this thing erected by
November 1st to coincide with Greenport's new dog ordinances.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Councilman Murdock.
COUNCILMAN MURDOCK: Councilman Murphy and myself attended ameeting
down at the Greenport Power Plant relative to maybe establishing a
power district. I feel the movement has some merit. It wilt take
a lot more information before we could say it's something we should
get as far as expending moneys towards. Hopefully we could save the
Town's ratepayers some money on providing e~ectric service. Our
Landfill Committee met on Friday to examine plans for the building
that we'd like To erect at the Landfill. I would say, ~r the benefit
of those newspapers who are here and certainly for the benefit of
the Town's people that are here, we received a letter from the DEC
chiding the Town for not acting sooner on cleaning up the Landfill
and doing some of the work that there is there, that they require.
We are going out to bid. There will be resolutions put forth late~r
in the day about going to bids on the building and going to bid o~
more landfill equipment. The Town is on the threshold of accomplish-
ing, I think, six of the seven problems that the DEC cites. The
seventh one is one that we're still going to contact them about.
We have asked the County Public Health Department to assist us
in the water study that they want and they say it will be sixto
eight weeks before they can accomplish that task and we have to
find out from the DEC whether they would be patient for that time
ior whether we would have to hire an engineering firm that can do
it sooner. I f~el that the. Town's people should understand t~at
this Town Board has been moving forward and we will solve the
problems that are in existence up at the landfill.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Councilman Nickles.
COUNCILMAN NICKLES: I'd like to report that Supervisor Pell and
I met with the Chief of Police and three gentlemen from the DePart-
ment of Transportation Of the State Of New York a week ago on ~he
15th of August and Assemblyman Sawicki was there representing both
himself and Senator Lavalle. The purpose of the meeting was the
traffic light that the Town had requested at the intersection of
Boisseau Avenue and Route 25. Through the course of the summe~
the Department of Transportation has reviewed this request and
did, I think, quite comprehensive traffic studies of cars entering
Route 25 from Boisseau Avenue and other Town roads in that vicinity
and they made a very strong case, at least to us listening to it,
that traffic light, in their judgment, is not necessary there. They
had the interval of time that required a vehicle to enter Route 25
from Boisseau Avenue and at other intersections, and they just don't
have enough traffic count, they don't find enough delay in time..
They~ feel that the traffic light will solve some problems, but it.
will cause more problems, but it will cause more problems that it
will solve in this point of time. So we asked them to kee~ their
eye on this problem. We're asking them for a letter from the
Commissioner of the New York State Department' of Transportation
outlining those reasons why they don't feel. a light is justified
there, but also recognizing the fact that there is a problem and
what remedial action they intend to take there. I think it's
important that they respond, in writing to us, because I think
in the past when we brought problems to their attenmion they're
not likely to jump through hoops for us until there is a tragedy.
At this point in time we're not going to get the light, we're
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going to get a letter from them telling us why we don't have the
light and so they'll be on th~ re~or~. It's disappointing. We
started, I think, under Chie~ Cat~ back in 1973 to-try to get
a light there and we picked up the cudgels after he le~t and there
was a petition and so on and so forth. That's where it stands
right now, unless the Town Board wishes to pursue it and I don't
know what manner or framework you could use to justify it, other
than the fact that you've been there, you have personal experience
you know it's taking your life in your hands when you pull out of
Boisseau Avenue. I think what they're going to try and do is
increase the site plain along there and they're also looking at
making a right-hand turn-only so that they won't be tying up
people going left. That's about it.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Thank you. Councilman Murphy.
COUNCILMAN MURPHY: I'd just like to make some comments agai'n on
what Councilman Murdock was taking about. I'm very happy that we
are finally coming to a point where we are going out to bid next
week for some of the equipment and the building in the Landfill and
hopefully we'll have this problem solved by the end of the year.
Also, for the Boy Scouts, while you're here, the Clam Program in
Southold Town is doing tremendous. They're growing very rapidly.
What we do here. is grow tiny little seed clams. Yoh could
probably put four or five on your small finger nail when we get
them in April, and by the time we take them out of the water in
November they're almost a saleable clam and then we transplant
them back into the creek. If they're grown in these floating
rafts and if the scouts have time during their program and would
like to come down and see it, we'd be very happy to show the program.
It would be one that I think would be of interest to most of the
boys. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Judge Edwards, anything you want to report?
JUSTICE EDWARDS: Just hope ali you gentlemen had a good time on
Fishers Island. You picked a nice day. The Island itself is still
floating and Winding down from a busy sammer. We had the State
Police over there for the first time ever bringing radar to pick
up the speeders and they wrote over 25 tickets during the month
o£ mid-July to mid-August. It was a very busy summer out there,
we've got more people on the Island than ever. I don't believe
there's one piece of property that's for sale on the Island other
than the little government GSA property that is going to be purchased
by the Ferry District. Busy summer and we're looking forward to
-Labor Day. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR PELL: You boys heard me refer to him as Judge Edwards.
In New York State there used to be Justice of the Peace and
Councilmen who served a dual role. The State Law changed that
and said Judges could only sit as Judges, except in the Township
of Southold. In the Township of Southold we have Fishers Island,
which is east of Orient Point by ten miles, approximately . There
was a special law enacted by the State Legislature to permit the
Town of Southold to have a Judge and Councilman combination to
serve the people of Fishers Island. That's why we have a six
member Board up here. I refer to him as Judge, Judge Edwards.
The rest of the men up here are Councilmen who already made their
reports.
II. PUBLIC NOTICES
COUNCILMAN MURPHY: The first one is the application of Richard
Hiltz, Anthony Forosich and George Koch to the D.E.C. for a Tidat
Wetlands, Protection of Waters, Water Quality in the Town of
Southold to construct 177 feet of~new bulkheading to connect to
existing bulkheads. Comments are to be made to the New York State
DEC Within two weeks. This notice is posted on the Town Clerk's
Bulletin Board.
2. From the Corps of Engineers, Department ~f the Army, con-
ce~ning the clam rafts that I was talking about a £ew minutes ago,
and we put them in different creeks and you ~eed a Corps of Engineers
permit. It's not a major amount of work or anything so they can give
us approval by just a letter. This again is on the Town Clerk's
Bulletin Board.
3. Department of the Army, Corps of Engineers for authorization
for the following activity to reconstruct an existing deteriorated
pier, ramp and ~loating pier system in East Creek by Fred Carcich,
Briarwood Road, Cutchogue. We're allowed twenty days £or comments
from the date of this letter which is August 17th.
4. Public Notice. Army Coros of Engineerm. +~ ~n~]4a~*~- ~f
Suffolk County Department oX PUbllC Works for maintenance dredging
with beach nourishment in Little Peconic Bay. It's maintenance
dredging that we do each year and it's just to change the spoil'~
area where they pump the sand. This again is posted on the Town
Clerk's Bulletin Board.
5. Public Notice that a final environmental impact statement
from the Village of Greenport on the zone change within 500 feet of
the Town line, of our Town line, for condominium complex--
Greenport Oyster Factory Associates. This again is posted on
the Town Clerk's Bulletin Board.
III. COMMUNICATIONS
SUPERVISOR PELL: Moving on to Communications. There are eight
of them today that are on file in my office or the Town Clerk's.
1. Pertains to the retirement of a Town employee (Melville
A. Kelsey, Jr.) who died while serving the Town as an elected
Assessor. The Town is being asked to contribute money which they
should have done if the gentleman was into the New York State
Retirement System at the proper time, so his widow can collect
the retirement benefits. The Town Board has instructed me to write
a letter saying, yes, the Town will put up the money once we get
the proper amount.
~ 2.. From Captain Kidd Water Company, Inc. telling the Board
what they think the water district is worth and a few thoughts on
that subject.
3. Letter by a property owner (Agneta H. Ewer) objecting to
the dredging of the creek known as Little Creek or Messenger's
Creek, as it has been done in the past.
4. Letter from the Federal Emergency Management Agency telling
the Town--the Town did make certain requests of them to change their
federal law as it pertains to Southold Town and they came back and
said we have to hold a public hearing to amend our Town Code within
90 days and we have already been in touch with them and sent them a
copy of the way we propose to amend it for their okay before we go
ahead to do the amendment to it.
5. Letter from Southampton Town Supervisor Lang, my counterpart
over there, informing us that the State Police Barracks in Hampton
Bays may be closed this coming year and asks us to support the
continuation and the addition of additional State Police out here
to supplement the Town forces.
6. Letter from the D.E.C. in reference to the project we have
going on with the Village of Greenport to handle our scavenge waste
-within the Township and the fees respective thereto for the engineer-
ing services.
7. Letter from the D.E.C in reference to our Town Landfill,
telling us the violations we have up there and telling us we shouid
move ahead to correct them and I will respond to this letter at the
direction of the Town Board, bringing them up to date on the proposed
bond issue we passed last week of $600,000.00, the building :that will
be going out to bid today to meet many of their controls. The Town
has to spend money, it is in the process of doing it. I will bring
them up to date on all the steps we have taken over the last couple
of years.
8. Letter from a taxpayer of Southold Town (Harry Tuthilli).
with a petition of approximately a dozen names on it, requestisg
a street light in Mattituck on Youngs Avenue and Shirley Road.
People request street lights and they will be taken care of by the
Street Light Committee.
IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS (none today).
SUPERVISOR PELL: I'd like to say right now to the Scouts who
are here, we are moving along in a half hour we moved pretty f~st,
but we started this morning around 8:30, the Town Board met here,
and we've been here since 8:30 discussing these things in detail.
Now what we do now is public record and it w~ll be in the public
minutes of the Town Board forever. The Town-Clerk, who is on: my
immediate right, Mrs. Terry, will have these resolutions and~they
will be adopted today. As every word is said today it will be in
the Town record books. The fact that you people are here will be
in the record book today of Southold Town. We move fast now, it
took us a long time to get here.
August 2D, 1983
V. RESOLUTIONS.
1. Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Councilman Murdock, it was
RESOLVED that the application of Frank McBride, dated August 9,
1983, for the renewal of his single family house trailer located
on the north side of'Oregon Road, Cutchogue, New York, be and
hereby is renewed for a period of six (6) months.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
2. Moved by Councilman Nickles, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
appoints the following individuals to the Licensing Review Board
under Chapter 50 of the Code of the Town of Sou~hold - Home
Improvement Contractors, for a two year term, effective this date,
August 23, 1983 through August 23, 1985: Robert L. Hyatt, ~ugene
N. Mazzaferro, John A. Muir, Norman A. Reilly, Sr.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
3. Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Murdock, it' was
RESOLVED that Supervisor William R. Pell, III be and he hereby
is authorized and directed to enter into a m~intenance agreement
with Mayday Communications for the communications equipment at the
Southold Town Police Headquarters for the period September 1, 1983
through August 31, 1984 at a cost of $1,286.00.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution'-was declared duly ADOPTED.
4. Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilman Nickles, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints
John A. Baglivi a Police Officer for the Town of Southold, effective
August 27, 1983, for a one year probationary period, at a salary of
$7,500.00 per annum.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
-This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
5. Moved by Councilman Murdock, seconded by Councilman Murphy, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Clerk of the Town of Southold be and she
hereby is authorized and directed to advertise for bids for the
design, detailing, fabrication and erection of a pre-engineered
metal building approximately 100 feet long and 100 feet wide at
the Southold Town Landfill site at Cutchogue, New York.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
6. Moved by Councilman Nickles, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that Beverly Pruitt be and she hereby is appointed School
Crossing Guard for the Greenport School, effective September 6,
1983 a~ a salary of $20.00 per day.
Vote oS the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles', Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR PELL: We have approximately four or five more resolutions
to offer today that are not on the agenda. These were topics that
were discussed this morning or this afternoon, at the Town Board and
the Town Board feels that it is appropriate to place them on the
agenda for action today.
7. Moved by Councilman Murdock, seconded by Councilman Townsend, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby author-
izes and directs Supervisor William R. Pell, III vo execute a
Consultants Agreement between the Town of Southold and PRC Specs
for the purpose of providing consulting and other services to the
Town for an Airport Site Selection/Master Plan Study for the Town
of Southold.
Vove of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Augus~ 2~, 1983
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock; Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR PELL: The Town's share of this is 2½ percent. The Town
will have to come up with in-kind services or moneys in the amoun~
of $1,569.48. This is subject to the federal government providing
the balance of about $62,000.
8. Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Clerk of the Town of Southold be and she
hereby is authorized ~o advertise for bids for the installation
of a handicapped ramp at the Griswold-Terry-Glover Post #803,~
American Legion, Southold, New York.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
9. Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilman Murdock~ it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
authorizes Accounting Clerk Mary E. Bource~ to attend the Double,
Entry Accounting Course offered by the New York State Depar~menv
of Audit and Control in Horsehead, New York on September 13, 14,
15, 20, 21, 22, 1983, and all necessary expenses for travel, meals
and lodging shall be a legal charge against the Town of Southold in
an amount not to exceed $700.00.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
10. Moved by Supervisor Pell, seconded by Councilman Murphy, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby suspends
George H. Fisher, Senior Building Inspector, this date, August 23,
1983, without pay until September 21, 1983, pending a hearing and -
determination on the written charges of misconduct and incompet~nc~
as a Senior Building Inspector for the Town of Southold, and sets
9:00 A.M., Tuesday, September 13, 1983, Southold Town Hall, Main
Road, Southold, New York as time and place for a hearing on the
aforesaid charges.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
'Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
11. Moved by Supervisor Pell, seconded by Councilman Murdock, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby-engages
the services o£ Attorney Richard F. Lark to answer the Notice of
Motion, and subsequent proceedings, in the matter o£ Katherine
Farr against the Southold Town Planning Board.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
12. Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Councilman Murdock, it~ was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints
David Blados and Patrick Hagger~y as Laborers for the Department of
Public Works, effective September 1, 1983, au a salary of $6.65 per
hour.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Supervisor Pell.
This resolution ~as declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR PELL: That ends the prepared agenda we have today. At
this time I'd like to ask the Councilmen if they have anything they
would like to bring up? Councilman Murdock.
COUNCILMAN MURDOCK: Just for the purpose o£ clarifying this airport
study, since I always feel that federal tax money is as much tax-
payers dollars as local tax money, this particular fund is paid for
out o£ a tax on airplane gasoline. I believe it's five cents a
gallon everytime somebody who has an airplane buys a gallon of
gasoline five cents goes in this kitty. That money is used for
development of airports. It's not a regular tax coming out of
somebody's either income tax or property taxes. This is a special
use tax that's levied only on people who avail themselves of
aircraft services and I feel that that's an important factor in
the Town of Southold availing themselves of that type of funding.
The second thing, I will say, and I'm not quite as vain as our
Supervisor, I attended Camp Baiting Hollow in the years 1941 and
1942. It wasn't quite that long ago ~hat I can't remember it.
But it was a while ago.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Anybody else wish to comment? Joe, anything to
add? (Nothing.) John? (Nothing.) Frank? (Nothing.) Judge?
(NOthing.)Mr. ;~tchell, if I could have that list of names, please,
of Scouts, would you please read off the names and then I'I1 take
the ligt of the Scouts that are here.
SOOUT],~ERMITC~.: John Leahy, Seve Amiaga, David Mason, Edward
Walters, Perry Bechky, James Eastman, Stuart Kube, Pat Carroll,
John Enriques, Dave Kelly, Chris LaRock, Dan Lenz, Robert Quinn,
Ben Mandel, Sean Murphy, Jim Stemple, John Carrol, Joe Cutin,
Mike Wagnor, Tom Lark, Dave Thide, Carl Reindl. Senior Patrol
Leader Alan Watts, Assistant Scout Master Bill Dickinson and
acting Scout Master Bert Mitchell.
COUNCILMAN MURPHY: Where are these boys all from?
SCOUT MASTER MITCHELL: They're all from all over Suffolk County.
This is a, as I said before, a mixed troop, special troop, all
star and life scouts who are working toward the Eagle. This is
the first time, the first troop we've had this way and it's an
experiment that is working out very successfully.
COUNCILMAN MURPHY: Now, where will you meet all the time?
SCOUT MASTER MITCHELL: We meet this week at Baiting Hollow, but
they meet in their respective troops. We have several in Southold
Town. In fact, I think I met you at Mike Golden's Troop 51. We've
met each other.
SUPERVISOR PELL: I know. I went to Patchogue the night that. one
of our scout leaders was made a step up - Jonathan Richmond - he
received an award up there and I was up there that night with Jon.
Anybody wish to address the Board? Mr. Dave Spohn. David,
can I say one thing first. This airport study was--I find the
first paper October 22nd, 1980. Been in the works for three years
practically. Go ahead.
MR. DAVID SPOHN, President, North Fork Aviation Association: Thank
you. On behalf of myself and the North Fork Aviation Association
and all airspace users, I'd like to say my appreciation to the Town
Board for their selection of PRC Speas to do this site selection
airport feasibility study. It's really appreciated and as you
mentioned before the Town's share is 2½ percent and our organization
has already stated that services in-kind will pay part of that share
and we will personally try to raise whatever the balance is required
to make it a§least costly to non-users as possible. Thank you
very much, gentlemen.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Thank you very much, Dave.
MRS. ELIZABETH SIMON: I live in Peconic on the North Road between
Peconic Lane and Bridge Lane. I came here in 1933, over fifty years
ago. I have had lights on my road for over fifty years and about
a month ago the lights disappeared. Now, I think this is a great
injustice to this little community and I'd like the lights back.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Thank you.
COUNCILMAN MURPHY: I'll make a comment, Mrs_. Simons. The reason
the lights were taken down, I believe they were all the 90 watt
incandescant, which is a very inefficient light. A survey was made
about two years ago of all the street lights in the Town and they're
very expensive to operate and to maintain. We set up a priority
system of where to put new lights. We're buying, as the money is
available, these fifty watt high pressure sodium lights, the yellow
lights that you'd see around and quite a few put in already. Any-
place where there was a light and it's taken down and is causing
August 23, 1983
an inconvenience we will try to get another one back up. The p~iorizy
£irst is to put a light on every street corner in the Town of Southold
rather than just a random spacing of street lights. You go in some
areas they've never had a light. The reason so you could see a stop
sign, so you could see the name sign of the road and then people
would become used to as they're driving along and see a light that
they'll know this is where the corner is. It makes it much easier
and safer driving at night. We don't want to hurt anybody and it's
done, really, just for economy. The cost of the lights has q~adrupled
in the last five to ten years. It's amazing, and the potential is
even greater for the increase as with LILCO's problems that we all
know. We're trying to save money for the Town by using these more
efficient lights rather than using these old incandescenz lights
which were put up haphazardly really years ago by the Long Island
Lighting Company, and as I say, if you are experiencing a problem
there, Mr. Dean will try to get a light up for you. We would tike
to try this on that road to see that all the intersections are well
lit and that if need be that you feel--fine, we'll try to accomodate
you.
MRS. SIMON: Thank you, Mr. Murphy, but these lights weren't placed
there just hit and miss, they were put there in the beginning as a
result of a petition by the people in the area, and at that time
these people paid extra taxes for them.
COUNCILMAN MURPHY: I don't believe you're paying now.
MRS. SIMON: No,..!.know there is prorating on a di£ferent basis.
COUNCILMAN MURPHY: And since that road has been changed, one of
the reasons it was decided to take those inefficient lights off
that road was bacause it has gone from a very crooked, uneven,
two-lane road to a real good, safe highway that the County did,
and we feel that the reflectors and the marking on the pavement
that it is much safer now and the need for those inefficient lights
wasn't as much. But as I say, if you really feel we'll talk ~o Mr.
Dean and see what we can do to get one back up.
MRS. SIMON: Yes, I really feel that we need a couple more lights
up there.
COUNCILMAN MURPHY: What we're trying to do is catch all the inter-
sections first. We feel it's very important to the safety and well-
'being of everybody.
COUNCILMAN MURPHY:
SUPERVISOR PELL:
MR. STUART HARVEY:
MRS. SIMON: Thank you very much.
We've tried not to hurt anybody with it.
Mr. Harvey?
Did we every have anything more on the roo£
on the Senior Citizen building?
SUPERVISOR PELL: It's being worked on, I asked Lyle Meredith the
other day to get the report.
MR. HARVEY: We don't have a report yet?
SUPERVISOR PELL: Not yet, no.
SUPERVISOR PELL: Anybody else wish to address the Board? Mr. Hyatt?
MR. ROBERT HYATT, Southold: I'd'like to request that you ask the
Building Inspector and Mr. Hindermann to come in to see if we~can't
get everything straightened away. We started discussing it before
the meeting and you gave me a suggestion that I carried into the
office, but this is where it stands, I've go~ten no ~here. I would-
request your participation in it, please.
SUPERVISOR PELL: After we adjourn the Board members will still be
here and we can sit down again. Anybody else wish to address the
Board? (No response.)
Moved by Councilman Murdock, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that this Town Board meeting be adjourned at 4:00 P.M.
Vote o£ the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman
Townsend, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman
Nickles, Snpervisor Pell.
August 23, 1983
WORK SESSION
4:05 P.M. The Board resumed their discussion with Mr. Robert
Hyatt, Builder, relative to his denial of a building permit.
Building Inspector Edward Hindermann was in attendance. Mr.
Hyatt reiterated his position that more leniency should be given
to the building inspectors to make decisions, rather zhan follow
the Zoning Ordinance so stringently and making it necessary for
an individual to appeal to the Zoning Board of Appeals. Mr. Hyatt
was again advised that the building inspectors do not have such
power to deviate from the law and to accomplish the addition to
a garage, in the front yard which he has requested, he must apply
to the Board o~ Appeals.
Work Session adjourned at 4:15 P.M.
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