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HomeMy WebLinkAboutTB-08/18/1982-FI226 SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD FISHERS ISLAND AUGUST 18,1982 WORK SESSION 12:30 P.M. - The Board reviewed agenda and off a§enda items anid audited outstanding bills. * * A Regular Meeting of the Southold ToWn Board was held on Wednesday., AuguS~t~ [18, 1.982 at the Fishers Island School, Fishers Island, New York. Supervisor Pell opened the meeting at If:00 P.M. with the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag. Present: Supervisor William R. Pell, III Councilman John J. Nickles Councilman Lawrence Murdock, Jr. Councilman Francis J. Murphy Justice Raymond W. Edwards * * * Town Clerk Judith T. Terry Town Attorney Robert W. Tasker Superintendent of Highways Raymond C. Dean Absent: Councilman Joseph L. Townsend, Jr. SUPERVISOR PELL: Good afternoon. We are happy to be o~er~.ere again and thank you for arranging the lovely weather. :~$~did lose a propeller half way over and had to drift, and I don~tk~n~aw if I am going to go back on the same boat or what. We ma. de:;'~ !~t~he last part of the way with one blade missing so I guess it WiI't~ take us back home, perhaps not quite as fast, bit it will get us ~there. Wha[ I would like to do today is run through our en.t;ire agenda, then introduce the guests that are here with your TOwn ~Beai~d today and after that I will ask a couple of guests ~o say a few ~words and after the meeting breaks up, the guests will hang around, be here and you can zero in on any of the fields they represent to your heart's content._ At this time I would like to introduce your Town Board to you. On my right Councilman John Nickles, next to him Councilman Larry Murdock, next to him Councilman Frank Murphy, next 5o him your Judge, Judge Edwards, next ~o him Town Attorney Robert Tasker. To my extreme left is the one and only Judy Terry, our Town Clerk. Thank you very much'. First order of business is approval of the minutes of August 3rd. Moved by Councilman Nickles, seconded by Councilman Murdock, it was R~ESOLVED that the minutes of the 'August 3', '1982 meeting of the Southold Town Board be and hereby are _approved. Vote of 5he Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murd0ck, Councilman Nickles, Supervisor Pell. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR P~,L: Next the audit of bills, Town bills. We 'usually do this once a month_ but the first of this month was so quick, all the bills were nor in, so instead of making the vendors-of the TOwn wait until the next month, we are approving abouy $12,000.00 worth of bills today. Moved by Councilman Murdock, ~seconded.~y-Councilman Murphy, it-was RESOLVED that the following 'aUdited bills be and hereby are o~dered paid: General Fund Whole Town bills' in the amount of $12,201.'56; General Fund Part Town bills- in the amount of .$9,759.94; and Federal Revenue Sharing bills in the amount o~ $80.00. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Supervisor Pell. This'resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. AUGUST 18, 1982 I". REPORTS 227 SUPERVISOR PEIJ,: The next is Councilmen reports. The Councilmen all have direct responsibilities To the dif£erent committees that they serve on. Each is prepared to make a report on the committee they serve on. ~irst will be Councilman Nickles. COUNCILMAN NICKLES: Bill, I just have a short report on Uarks-'~nd Beaches. I had a meeting yesterday with Mr. Muir who is the rep- resen~ative on behalf of the Town and the park districts in Southold Town for the operation of our Town beaches relative to scheduling of lifeguards and we have a problem and we've had this problem over the last few years-. So many of our lifeguards once they get into their senior year in high school and they're going onward into college, start college so early they're not here for the Labor Day weekend. Anybody that employs college people knows this when you're in business. They lose them on one of your biggest weekends, so unfortunately we're going to have To close--and I'd like the press here to make note of this--we're going to have to close Kennys Beach, on Long Island Sound, on August 19th which, is tomorrow. We're going to have to close Goose Bay Beach, on Southold Bay. on September 3rd, and Gull Pond is going to be closed for one day. August 27th. but it will reopen after that. Providing we don't have any other problems with losing lifeguards we will be able to maintain all of our beaches open except for the exceptions. I'd also like the Chief to take note that he should inform the police officers that work for him that these beaches are closed and kind of check it a little bit extra. We did fake into consideration over in the Kennys Beach area there are two beaches, McCabes Beach and Kennys Beach and we felt that ~cCabes Beach, which is a better beach in terms of the grade and so forth, was the beach if we had a choice to keep open, so for those gentle- men from Kennys Beach, that's why we're closing Kennys as opposed to McCabes. We think it's getting more traffic on it and it's more enjoyable and more usable. Thank you. SUPERVISOR PELL: Thank you very much. Larry Murdock, Larry? The Jext one is Councilman COUNCILMAN MURDOCK: One of the committees that I chair, is called Code Enforcement.. We in the Town of Southoid have had a little problem that has been vexing the people here on Fishers Island as well as our own people. I'm sure people who are not interested in putting additions on a home or building a new home are finding a much better response time in terms of getting permission of the Planning Board and Zoning Board of Appeals and the Building Depart- ment. This has been an ongoing thing for two years. Was given the chairmanship thfs year. The Town Board has placed a representative of the Town as Admfnistrative Assistant to the Board in a position to co-relase the three departments and I feel for one that we're making progress. I'm very sure almost everybody who's involved here on the Island sees a speed-.up or a more quicker response time. Certainly this year I stepped off the Board and I didn't ha~e people telling me they had to get construction stated, that they had been a year and a half or a year waiting and it's getting to the end of the year and they want permission to put their footings fn. Our three depart- men~s are working muck more cohesively. We h~ve a gentleman-in the room---I'll steal some of Bill's thunder and introduce Victor to everybody the man we appointed was Victor Les~'ard; although he might not be in the room, I'll have to look around. He's' over here doing some work already. Sb~ERVISOR PELL: He's with the Planning Board. The Planning Board has a meeting. COUNCIlmAN MURDOCK: They are out again. We're still a long ways away. We s~itt have a lot of code to have public hearings and change our town laws on, but we have achieved a better working relationship so far. Of course, our famous commi't'tee of'the Land- fill. to which Frank Murphy was added~ or, the committee, Joe Townsend. Frank Murphy and Ray Dean went to a seminar on sewer sludge and composting. We're going to have some demonstrations-on that. Joe Townsend and I went up to Toronto to see about how to handle garbage more effectively, not necessarily burning, but processing before burning. We feel very confident within a period of three to five months we'll probably be making a recommendation to the Board about some measures. Of cours~ that pertains mostly to the mainland portion but I think some of the things we have learned and will put into effect can be ~dapted to Fishers ~sland because as you 228 AUGUST 18, 1982 know you're starting to have a couple of little landfill problems yourself between the pit up there. Thank you. SUPERVISOR PELL: Thank you. The next one is Councilman Frank Murphy. COUNCILMAN MURPHY: Thank you, Bill. Again it is a pleasure to be here. I'd like to add a little more to what Larry said. Through the cooperation of the Highway Superintendent Ray Dean who also wears the hat ~of Public Works Commissioner, we are establishing a composting program in the Town and also a volume re'duce'ion of the amount of material going into the t'andfill. We expect to be able to reduce it 50 to 60%, which will be a tremendous saving as well as composting the sewer sludge and Ray and his department are doing a fantastic job and it really is good to have the cooperation between the various units of local government. Also, last year I mentioned how we were going to start a Seed clam program. Well, it has gone very well. We've had over 85~0 survival rate. The clams are growing far faster on the North Shore I guess because of salinity--we still really don't know--and water temperature, we're probably 25 to 30% faster than the South Shore where this program has been going on for years. We'll have almost a marketable clam from seed in one year and this'is fantastic and hopefully it will go a long ways vowards restocki ing our creeks and one of the nicer aspects of it was that one of the local high schools, in their shop classes, built these rafts for the Town and this again is another example of cooperation between people in the Town and we're very proud Of it. One last thing, the Suffolk County Commissioner of Pubiic Works is here and we're having a problem of getting enough, fill in Southold'Town out of the landfill. We're rapidly running out of it. SuffOlk County fs bUi'lding a sump in Southold Town and this is one of the first times that i.t was included in the bid that the material, the surpluS' material from t'he sump, which amounts to quite a bit, will ~e delivered do~ to the South-old Town Landfill. We certainly appreciate his cooperation and it's great to have and thanks again. SUPERVISOR PELL: Thank you, Frank. Next, the man who~se~ves on all committees, all, representing your Island, Judge Edwards-. JUSTICE EDWARDS: I just ~ant to Welcome' ~he and I'm not very active on any of the committees' ore my hands in when I can but I'll just let the ng after the meeting because I know they're going questions and I try to handle as many as' I can but a tot of them and so we'll let it go at that. Just to fill in, siil~ng on the Board for th_e past three or four months I head the. wor~ sump come up and I didn't know what the heck sump was until the~ins came in the spring and then I found out that when they' have flood problems over there they' just dig a big home and put a fen~oe around it and let all the water run off into it. S'o that's what Mr. Murphy was talking about when he mentioned sumps. W~ have a couple of problems on the Island where we can have some sumps over here too. Thank you. SUPERVISOR PELL: Thank you, Judge. The one cormmittee that I' do chair is the Po'l'ice commi'ttee. We have two constables as you are well aware here on Fishers Island as well as two state police during the summertime plus a bay constable and I would like to report many of you people do call the Town Hall and talk to me at different times throughout the summertime especially and in the conversation I always work in the words, "How are the state police?" I would like to report to the state police at this time that the two state police thav you have here I have not had one citizen, ~ot one, make a complaint that they're not doing their job. To me that is a reward, and the ~ajor who is sitting in back of the room who I will introduce in a little while, but Major the rwo men here are doing one heck of a job and we appreciate them being here. Going on to Public Notices, there is one Public Notice I would like to have read ~t this time. Councilman Murphy. II. PUBLIC NOTICES COUNCILMAN MURPHY: We have one notice. An ~p'plicati'on by Ua~id J. Sa!an.d by Enconsuttants, Inc. to place 950 cubic yards of clean fill on property in preparation for one-family dwelling, driveway and sanitary sysbem. The home and decking will project approximately ~t0 feet into the existing tidal wetlands and the sanitary system will ~be approximately 70 feet from tidal wetlands. None of the Tidal W~e~lands Land Use Regulations setbacks can be met. The project is AUGUST 18, 1982 located on the south side of Nokomis Road~at the intersection with Minnehaha Boulevard ...... ~orey',~C~:~i:~B~~.~ Comments no later than August 25th to the 1~$~ York "s%~$~-~~$:n~~ of Environmental Conservation at Stony Brook. The notice is always posted on the Town Clerk's Bulletin Board. .Thank you. SUPERVISOR PELL: Thank you. The next order of business is called Communications. These are letters that come in to Town Hall and it's a judgment call on my part to place them on the agenda or not. These letzers that are placed here are ones that I feel are important to be recorded in the Town Minutes-as-being received. III. COMMUNICATI'ONS 229 i. Letter from 'Gregory Bl'a'ss~ your County Legislator in reference to Robins Island 2. From Fi'sh'ers 'Island Fire Depa'rtment. Secretary Dawson, asking the Town some questions (re:letter from' Mrs. J. Ripanti concerning flooding during.severe rain .storm. 3. From our Counzy. Executive"s O'ffiCe in reference to the Coastal Barrier Resources- Act which does' i'nclmde a plot of land on Fishers Island.. 4. From the Federal Emergency' M'a'nagement Agency on the Flood Elevation Determination which again pertains' to our Township and Fishers Island which..is part.of it.. 5. From the Fede'r~l Emergency ManaKem'ent' 'Agency and is' an up- date of number III(4). 6. From H'ar'ol'd Reese, a developer on the mainland of Southold Town, in reference to a bond thaz he is required to put uD and would like the bond reduced. Again, the Board will have to act on that next week. These are brought to the Board's attention today, they will be acred upon, probably, the next time the Board meets. Some of these do require Board action. We would perhaps have acted on some of them today but coming over on the Board--.I need a quorum of four--Councilman Nickles flew in, Judge. Edwards-was- here, and I only had three, so I need four for a quorum, so they will be acted upon probably next Board meeting. IV. HEARINGS SUPERVISOR PELL: There are no hearings today on Fishers Island. Moving on ~o Resolutions. We have 16 Resolutions today that require Board action. V. RESOLUTIONS Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Murphy, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold accep~ the proposal of The North Fork Bank ~ Trus't Company to undertake the task of determining the feasib'ility b'f the com~ute'riz'at'ion of Town Facilites at a fee of $25.00 per hour, maximum of 80 hours; and Supervisor William R. Pell, III be and he hereby is authorized and directed to enter £nvo a contract with The North Fork Bank & Trus~ Company for the aforementioned feasbility study. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Supervisor Pell. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Councilman Murdock, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby agrees to contribute one half of the total c~s~, up to but not exceeding the sum of $475'.0'0~ toward the cost' O'f dre'd~'ing the i'n~et~to the pond at Wunnewet'a Pond, Nassau Point, Cutchogue, New York. VoEe of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman Nicktes, Supervisor Pell. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. Moved by Councilman Murdock, seconded by Councilman Nickles, it was RESOLVED that pursuant to Article 8 of the Environmental Conservation Law State Environmental Quality Review and 6NYCRR Part 617, Section 617.10 and Chapter 44 of the Code of the Town of Southold, notice is hereby given that the Southold Town Board, as lead agency for the action described below, ~as determined that the project, which is unlisted, will not have a significant effect on the environment. Description of Action: App!ic~tion of Thomas & J~cqueIine Occhiogrosso for a wetland permit to construct a dock, ramp and catwalk at Corey Creek Lane, on Corey Creek, Southold, New York.. The project has' been determined no~ to have a significant effect 23& AUGUST 18, 1982 on the environment £or the follwoing reasons: An environmental assessment has been sub.mitred which indicated that no significant adverse effect to the environment are likely to occur should the project ~e implemented as planned. Because there has been no response in the allotted time from the New Yerk State Department of Environmental Conservation, it is assumed that there is no objection nor con~nents by that agency. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman ~.urphy, Coundilman Murdock, Councilman Nick!es, Supervisor Petl. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. Moved by Councilman Nickles, seconded by .Justice Edwards, it was ~-~ RESOLVED that pursuant to Article 8 of the Environmental Conservation Law State Environmental Quality Review and 6NYCRR Part 617, Section 617.10 and Chapter 44 of the Code of the Town of Southold, not,ice-is hereby given that the Southold Town Board, as lead agency for the action deScribed below, has dete'rmin'ed' th'arc,he~ p~roject, which is unlisted, will not h~ve' a sign'ificant ef'fect on ~he environment. Description of Action: Application of Enconsultants, Inc. on behalf of Friedrich Krug for a wetland permit to construct timber bul:khead connected Eo and in line with adjacent existing bulkheads and to maintenance dredge in front of proposed bulkhead and place resultant spoil on adjacent upland at Budd's Pond, off Budd's Pond Road, Southold, New York. The project has been determined not to have a significant, effect on the environment for the following reasons: An environmental assessment has been submitted which indicated' that no significant adverse effect to the environment are likely to occur should the project be implemented as planned. Because there has been no response in the allotted time from the New York State Department of'Environmental Conservation, it is assumed that there is no objection nor comments by that agency. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councitm~n Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Supervisor Pell. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Murdock,' ~ ,~ ~ RESOLVED that pursuant to Article' 8 of the Envir0nmenta~4~ ~on Law state Environmental Quality Review and 6NYcRR Part- 6IT,~ction 617.10 and Chapter 44 of the Code of the Town of S°uthotd:,~m~tice is hereby given that the Southold Town. B0ard). as lead..agenC~ 'for the action described below,, has' determined tha~ th.e Dro,]ect., .w ~ch is unlisted, will no~ h'ave' a significant.e'ffect on the' environraent. Description of Action: Appl'i'cation of Alexander Fiami'nskT for a wetland permit to construct dock and floating dock and~emove ,exist- ing dock from property line at 635 Waterview-Drive, on Go,se Creek, Southold, New York. The project has been determined not to have a significant effect on the environment fOr the following reasons: An environmental assessment has been submitted which indicated that no significant adverse effect to the environment are likely to occur should the project be implemented as planned. Because there has been no response in the allotted time ~rom the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation, i't is assumed that there is no objection nor comments by that agency-. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: JUstice Edwards, Councilman l~Urphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Supervisor Pell. This resolution was' declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR PELL: Councilman Joseph Townsend is on the west Coast on vacation, that's why he's not with us today. Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Councilman Nickles, it was RESOL~rED that the Southold Town Board declare itself lead agency in regard to the State Environmental Quality Review Act in the matter of the application of Robert J. Munch for a wetland permit on certain property located at Ma~ituck Creek, 2790 Westphali~ Road, Mattituck, New York. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Coundilman Nickles, Supervisor Pell. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. ~oved by Councilman Murdock, seconded by Councilman Nickles, it was RESOLVED that the application of Zdzislaw MikolaJczYk, dated August 9, 1982 for the renewal of his trailer permit at private road off eas~ side of Main Road, Mattituck, New York be and hereby is renewed AUGUST 18, 1982 .............. 231 for a six (6) month period. V~te of the Town Boa, r~ ~Ye~g~it~ ~e:,~EdWa~ds, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman N~s, Supervisor Pell. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. Moved by Councilman Nickles, seconded by Councilman l{urdock, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold will hold public hearings at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York on Tuesday, September 7, 1982 in the matter of the following applications for wetland permits: 3:00 P.M. - application of Thomas & Jacq~el'ine Occh'iogrosso for a wetland permit for permission to construcz a dock, ramp, and catwalk at Corey Creek Lane, on Corey Creek, Southold, New York. 3:05 P.M. - application of EnconsultantS. Inc'. on behalf of Friedrich Krug for a wetland permi~ to construct timber bulkhead connected zo and in line with adjacent existing bulkheads and to maintenance dredge in fron~ of proposed bulkhead and place resultant spoil on adjacent ~pland at Budd's Pond, off Budd's Pond Road, Southotd, New York. 3:10 P.M. - application of Alexander-Kami'nski for a wetland permit ~o construct dock and floating dock and remove existing dock from properzy line at 635 Waterview Drive, on Goose Creek, Southold, New York. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Supervisor Pell. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR PELL: There is one person I did not i'nt'ro'duce b'e~Ore who just walked in the room, sits with the Town Board all day long when it meets and he belongs up here with us, that's' Mr. Raymond Dean. Ray, will you come up here and sit with us please? Super- in~endent of Highways. When the Town Board meets' all day long he's with us all day and I think he belongs up here with. us. Thank you, Ray. Moving on to Resolution No. 9. Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Murdock, it was RESOLVED that Supervisor William R. Pell, III be and he hereby is authorized and directed to enter into a MaintenanCe ~greemen't' With Sevin Corporation fo'r the copier machine at Police Headquarters, effective July 1, 1982 through June 30, 1983, at a cos~ of $565.00. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Supervisor Pell. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. 10. Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Justice Edwards, WHEREAS, the County of Suffolk and the County of Nassau together constituting Long Island, New York, and the Long Island Association of Commerce and Industry, representing the industrial base of Long Island contribute in a significant fashion to the production, and development of parts and equipment necessary for United States Aircraft Carriers; and WHEREAS, Long Island's Prime Con~ract Awards from the Department of Defense for aircraft related equipment total well overS3 billisn; and WHEREAS, Veterans' Organizations on Long Island support the concept of naming an aircraft carrier after Long Island; now, therefore be it RESOLVED, that we, the Southold Town Board,-do hereby urge Cas~ar W. Weinberger, United States Secretary of Defense, to name 'the fi'rst available United States ~ircraft Carrier after 'Long Is~I~nd. Vo~e of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman NickleS, Supervisor Pell. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR PELL: This request is being su~orted by our County Executive ~o ask all the towns ye send its-~esolutions in on this. QUESTION: I'm a little confused, but before when yon passed the resolution about the environmental and about the application for dredging, for a dock and so forth, is that--does that pertain to ~he entire Town of Southold or just.So~thold. Is' the water referred to differen~ on Fishers-Island? SUPERVISOR PELL: You're part of Southold TOwn ~oo, Fishers Island. These are wetland permits. They have to get a'wetland permit from the Town. 232 AUGUST 18, 1982 QUESTION: Would any dock on Fishers Island need a wetland applica- tion? SUPERVISOR PELL: If it is within the wetland jurisdiction, yes. QUESTION: What does that mean, wetland jurisdiction? SUPERVISOR PELL: Who wants to describe it? Any volunteers? COUNCILMAN MURPHY: Where there is a certain particular variety of grass growing in the rise and fall of~the tide. Spartina--and othe~vise you do need a Trustee's permit to build a dock or extension if it is into Town waters. It would have to Be Town waters-. QUESTION:~ What about Town waters versus Fishers Island West Harbor war ers? SUPERVISOR PELL: Let us go through the agenda, get it all done, then we'll open the meeting up and come back and try to answer your West Harbor question. Okay? We move on to Number i1. 11. Moved by Councilman Murdock, seconded by Councilman Nickles, it was RESOL%rED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the following transfer O'f funds within the General Fund ?~hole Town Account: From: A!9'10.4 - Unallocated Insurance, contractual--- $4,000.00, To: Al010.4 - Town Board, contractual---S4,000.00'. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Supervisor Pell. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. 12. Moved by Councilman Nickles, seconded by Councilman Murdook, it was (a) RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of .Sbuthoid..t%ere~y~.authorizes the following t'ransfer of 'fUnds within the Ge~e'r~l ]~'n'~ ~' Town Account: From: B3130.2 - Bay Constable, personal s-erviCeS~-$256.00; To: B3!30.2 - Bay Constable, 'equipment---S256.00. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman ~urphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman NicMles, Supervisor Poll, This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. 12. (b) 13. 14. (a) Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Murdock~ it ~as RESOLVED that the Town. Board of the Town of..Southold..h_ere~)y authorizes the following t'ranS'fe'r' Of' funds within the 'Ge'n'er~l' l~un'd' T0~n Account: From~ B3~4 ~y Inspection, contractU~L,-~Tt.00; To: B3620.2 -Safety Inspection, equiDment---$71,O0. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards',. Counc~am'~ ~ph~ ' ~-, Councilman Murdock, Councilman Nicktes, Supervisor Pelt. This resolution was declared .duly ADOPTED. COUNCILM~W MURPHY: Thfs next resolution deals with. the past history of Southold Town and our Hlstorian is also-with us today and doing a fantastic job on compiling these records. We're finally ready to go to print or go to bid for printing these records and hope to sell them at definitely- a profit to the Town. Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was RESOLVED tha~ the Town Clerk of the Town.of Southold 5e and she hereby is authorized and .directed.~t0 ~dve'rt~'s'e ~f~r'.~b~'ds ~ontract for' the complete p'rinti'ng'. 'and bindi'ng..of'..'five..hun'dred copies of Liber D, Volume III' Of ~he Sbuthold Tbwn Records. Specifications for same are available in the office of the Town Clerk; bid opening September 9, 1982 at t0:00 Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Supervisor Poll'. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. Moved by Councilman Murdock, seconded by Councilman Nickles, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold amend their Resolution No..II adopted on July' 20, 1982 authorizing ~h.e ~4uScuIar Dystrophy AssoCiation to use Southold. Town'.roads..to. conduct a Bike-A-Thon on September 12, I982 ~o September 1'8, 1982. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman' Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Supervisor Pell. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. ~GUST 18, 1982 .233 14. (b) Moved by Councilman Nickles, seconded by Councilman Murdock, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold grant permission to the Muscular Dystrophy Association to hold its lst' Annual "Anything Goes Competition" on Seotember 19, 1982 at Kennys Beach, Southotd, at 11:00 A.M., provided they secure the necessary insurance to hold the Town of Southold harmless. COUNCILMAN NICKLES: I raise the question shontd we be doing this if the beach is going to be closed .... it will be closed anyway then-- okay. ~ . Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman Councilman Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Supervisor Poll. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. 15. SUPERVISOR PELL: We have Numbers 15 and 16', what we call add-ons, one of them came in by- telephone yesterday, concerning Fishers Island. Maybe if the Commissioners are here you better amend this ~o give them enough money to fix the propeller on the boat. Moved· by. Justice Edwards).~seconded~by Councilman Murphy, ~¥HEREAS, the Fishers Island l~erry Di's't~fct advert~s'ed for bids for the removal of decking, deck stringers-, hoising a~parat~s and exist~ lng ramm at the S.'o~'th~'ast' limit Of~th'e Fi'shie'rS 'I~'~n'd Cap'it~l Project area, and ~HEREAS~ bids were received and opened on the 10th of August, 1982 a~ 2:00 P.M., and . . WHERE~tS, the Only' bid receiyed was that of the Wh'gl'in'g City and Dock Corp7 ~-~ ~-~6ton, Connecticut in the an{cunt of $15,500.00, and ~herefore, be it RESOLVED thaz the contract he awarded to the Whaling Cizy Dredge and Dock Corp. as' per its- bid of $15,500.00, and that th.e Town Board of the Town of Southold approves the award 6f said contract. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes- Justice Edwards, Councilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Supervisor Pel!. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. .6. Moved by Councilman Murphy, seconded by Justice Edwards, WHEREAS, Greenbriar Homes~ Inc. filed an application with the Planning Board £or the approval of a minor subdivision on premises east o£ Elijah Lane at Mattituck, and WHEREAS, the Planning Board has determined that a suitable park and playground of adequate size cannot be properly located within said minor subdivision, and WHEREAS, the said Planning Board, at a regular meeting held on June 28, 1~82, adopted a resolution recommending that in lieu of park or playground in said subdivision, that the developer make a payment to the Town in the amount of $6,600.00, now, therefore, be it RESOLVED thac the Town accept the sum of $6,600.00 in lieu of a park or playground Wi'th respect to said minor subdivision~ and that s~ch sum shall constitute a trust fund to be used by the Town exclusively for neighborhood park, playground or recreation~, purposes including the acquisition of property. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Edwards, Councilman Murphy, Co~mcilman Murdock, Councilman Nickles, Supervisor Pell. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SD~PERVISOR PELL: That ends the prepared agenda we have today. Councilmen, have I left anything out or omitted? COL~-~CILM~M MURDOCK: There was one letter that came in the mail that we had a copy of that comes from the New York State De~rtment of Environmental Conservation--- ~ SUPERVISOR PELL: Excuse me, this pertains to Fishers Island. COUNCILMAN MURDOCK: ---and it has to do with the approval process for the sewage system here in Fishers Is'land and it';s expIaining to us that there will not be a Step II and Step III program; that they will automatically give us Step II, which means they will come along and when the plan is approved they will aucomaticaily give Step III. It has to do with the cash flow problem, but they are actively working on Fishers Island problem with the sewage system that we're to put in here in the villal~,e. SUPERVISOR PELL.: Thank you. Phase t was complete, that was your pre-application which was prepared to ~o in for the oroiect that 234 AUGUST 18, 1982 ran about thirty thousand dollars, twenty-five to thirty to thirty- five. What Larry is talking about is the design study, the design of the plant, that is Phase II, After that is done then we will get money for Phase III. Cash flow, we don't want to tie up the money all at once. Any other Councilmen have anything to add? JUSTICE EDWARDS: I'd like to add one thing. I know there's a lot of people here that are concerned about our inner:~.West Harbor and Bob Tasker was telling me that he sent me a letter on Saturday explaining the whole procedure. I have not received it yet, so I ~hink before any of the people ask any questions of the Board I'll have Bob fill them in on the cont'ent of the letter and explain as to what we can do and what the Town can do and then you can have questions after that. TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: At the Town Board meeting, the last or the one preceding that, Judge Edwards asked the question of whether or not the Town had any authority to control boa~s and other activities in the waters surrounding Fishers Is'~i~nd. and I. indicated to him that it does have that authority and saturday I sent him a letter explain- ing all of the Points. Under the provisions of the Town Law the Town of Southold can-adopt an ordinance regulating the operation of boats in waters within 1500 feet of the shoreline. They can also establish anchorage areas and mooring areas and restrict where and what areas boa~s can be anchored and moored. The Town of Southold, in f~ct., does have such a boating ordinance, but at the presen~ time it h~s not established any mooring areas, to my knowledge, in any areas o.f the Town. This Town Code was enacted in the middle 60's and I guess ~t that ~ime they didn't see any need for this. Hewever, there is authority for the Town Board to amend its Boating Ordinance to provide for the regulation of the anchoring and-mooring of bosts in the wa[ers surrounding Fishers Island for a distance of 1500 feet from the shore. Any such regulations cannot conflict ~ith anv state or federal law in this area and any such regulation must be' approved by the New York State Commission of Environmental Conservation. So that there is such authority..It take two or three months for the Town Board to have such..a-~ula- tion enforced, because we have to draft it, we have to go~ough a public hearing and we have to get the consent of~ the'siat'e and then we have to finally enact it. So it w~uld take a co,pie, of months, but there is authority and we do have jurisdiction to do such a thing. COUNCILM;~N ~IURPHY: Bob, in state waters also? TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: Makes no difference here. You c~n ~egulate within 1500 feet of the shore. There is one restriction~hat says that it can't be within 1DO0 fee~ of the shoreline of a incorporated village, but we don't have any village here.. So it makes no difference what the wa~ers are, whether Town waters or State waters. SUPERVISOR FELL: Thank you. At this time I would like to introduce the guests that came with your Town Board today and tell you what they represent, so if you have some things you would like to ask they can be asked directly to the different people here and they can answer. First of all from Civ±l' Service we have three people with us - Christine F'~sch'aun, Pa~l Greenberg and William Kent. Please stand so the people can see you. Civil Service questions will be directed to those three. From Re'al P'rOpe'rty Tax' Service A~ency.- John Alacca; CO~nty.:'Comptrolleri~s Ofiice, County 'Comptroller himself - Joe CaDu~o. From Em~ergency Pre~paredness we have Col'onel~ ThSmpki'ns with us, and Major Pickenberg. From the County Treasurer Office we have Gene Lester. From your Board b'f Assessment Re'~iew we have Sam Markel and An'drew Pitre. Many times you may not know'what~t'he Assessment Review Board does and Sam I'm going to ask you in five words to stand up and explain your Board's responsibilities. MR. S~MUEL MARKEL, Southold Town Board of Assessment Review: Well, if you're not satisfied with. that the Assessors do ~o you, come see US. SUPERVISOR FELL: The line starts behind me. Also from your TOWn we have a man that' work's With' our 'courts' and our youth - ~'im Mc~ahon. Jim has been with us--this is his second year and he has been very successful on the mainland working with the youth and the courts. From our D.A.'S' Office we have Don Bu'rns and Frank F~sco. Town records as we mentioned before - our Hist'or'tan Mrs. Goodrich, keeper of the archives. Con~ervat'i'on Advisory Council' - Robert HO6d. 'Robert AUGUST 18, 1982 is one of seven. Town Engineers--we have them with Ks today - 'L~rry Tuthill ,and Jack D~.~. Tha~.. ~/~ApPe~ls are here.- Chairman Goehringer, Robert D'ougl~ass,· Serge Doyen. The planning Board is here, they are having a meeting right now - Chairman ~e'nry Raynor and with him he has his entire Board of which Bob Wall is.a member of. From D.O.T. we have Foster Beach here an'd Chart'ie.K'ilduff, Trans-. portation, New York State. Dr. Harris' office sent Bob Vit~l'a- Health Department. Robert, nice to have you with us. The next ones done some work on the way over here and I'm sure you want to talk to these folks, and if you don't I'll be surprised, from D.E.C. we have Chuck Hamilton and Phil Obernauer, from the Department of Environmental Conservazion, two people who we all d~al with. The CommiSsioner Of Public ~Vorks Bart Cass. Bart took a tour of your Island through the aid of the Sta~e Police to make sure when we refer to Fishers Island he knows what it is. He was given a tour all around the Island so he was familiar with it. Also with us today from the Office for the ~ging we have Adelaide Silkworth and John Bianchi. For information sake, Southold Town, of the ten zowns, has the larges senior citizen population, percentage. Adelaide has been very very supportive of all the requests thaz your. Town Board pu~s in. Sometimes we don't agree but that's par for the course. Comfnissioners from the Board of Election, we have one Commissioner with us Everett McNab and one Deputy John Morris. Also with us with Bart Cass is a gentlemam who has been most helpful to the Town of Southold and one we have worked with John Guld~. John has been with us before and he is familiar with some of the problems we have here. From the Bureau of Vector Control - Joseph Sanzone, and Richard Bailey. The Sheriff was supposed ~o come but could noz make it and he sent Lieutenant 'Carl Faulkenback. On the Assessors we have two out of three of them here, people who you all l~'ke ~o see come around once in a while and say hello, we have Charles Watts aid Fred Gordon, Their Chief Assessor could no~ be here today, Mr. Moisa. We have the Receiver of Taxes here George Mellas. Last-but not least I did leave two people out, but the last one I'm going to ask to say a few words. The next one I am going to introduce has been the biggest help vo me since I've been in office with many of the headaches that come before me, he's new to his job and as I said before to a group of folks, he's doing one hell of a job and I mean that and it includes the people on Fishers Island, your Chi'ef of Police Dan Winters. 235 CHIEF H. DANIEL WINTERS: Thank you, Mr. Supervisor. I couldn't image who the Supervisor meant when he said that I was new to my job. I guess he meant as Chief of Police, I have been a policeman for twenty-five years, but, Bill, if I may, touch on the great job the troopers are doing and the great job all of our constables are doing on Fishers Island. We've had great rapport between the two agencies and no problems that I'm aware of. I'm very happy to be here. I don't know of any complaints from the residents of Fishers Island. I'll be here and I under stand you're having a small problem with graffiti on the road being done by the children, so I'm aware of that if anybody wants to see me abouv tha~. Thank you very much. SUPERVISOR PELL: Thank you, Dan. When I said new, I meant new as Chief of Police. CHIEF ~INTERS: Just about a year ago today. SUPERVISOR PELL: Now so you people can understand why I keep the Town Clerk nexz to me, I forgot to introduce, and Mr. Cass you help me out, you have~a Depuzy here Barney Evans. Mr. Evans, stand up please. My apologies. Also we have from the Cooperat%ve Extension - Mary Mooney-Getoff. Do you want to say a few words? MRS. MARY MOONEY-GETOFF: I just wanted to say that we have a lot of services at Cooperative Extension and we'd be happy to explain them ~o you. We a service of soil testing and t brought brochures with me. About garden samples and we'll tell you what kind of soil you have for what you want ~o grow. We are also involved in a nutrition computer analysis survey which will tell about your diem and an individual will be able to analyze it. I brought along some booklets on horticulture, three booklets and I also brought a sample of the booklets that are available food and nutrition. If you have any specific problems I will a~tempt to answer them. SUPERVISOR PELL: Thank you, Mary. As I said earlier in the day~ the one com~aittee I chair is the Police--~nd I commented on the two state police that you have here. You also have a new major 236 AUGUST 18, 1982 who oversees the Regional State Police Major Strignowski. I'm going to ask the major to come up here and tell us -a little bit about the state police work. We are extremely proud as I said before, Major, that your two men here are doing such a superb job. I know I'm being redundant but we really appreciate the fine work they are doing. Thank you. MAJOR STRIGNOWSKI: I really just want to say hello and all the kind comments you said about the troopers I do appreciate and we're not intransigent when people come up and talk to me about little problems that they have or disagreements that: they have with us, so we hear both sides of it and it's gratifying to see the coopera- tion that we get from a number of public agencies, not only in the criminal justice sector but the town and county as well, We do appreicate it and if you have any specific problems we'tll be around for a few minutes after the meeting and we will attempt to address it. Judge, thanks for keeping an eye on my fellows and letting me know what's going on. Thank you very much. SUPERVISOR PELL: Major, thank you very much. The last one I would tike to introduce--did I leave anybody out, first of all? Ken Rosenblum is commissioner Of Consumer ~f'fairs. He has some stuff he is going to pass out and speak on and the reason I left him for last was that he forgot to bring it up here, it was down at.the ferry boat, so you saw' him come up here to speak to me before and said, "My package is down at the boat, make me last." I said, "Okay, Ken, I'll make you last." So that's why Ken is last. Ken the floor is yours. COMMISSIONER KENNETH ROSENBLUM, Consumer Affairs: That was just a tricky way to get the last word in. Supervisor Pell, me~rbers of the Town Board, I think. I can speak for all the public o:fficiats here and I'd like mo'express our appreciation for inviting us out here and giving us the opportunity to meet :the people of~Fi~hers Island'and tell them about our services. I jus~ want that I do have some free giveaway packets from~%'he Depa~t~e;nt of Consumer Affairs. I brought some last year and. I:'think't~he ~e~ple were very happy with them.. It's a grab bag of consume ion which we get from private organizations and federal agencies. ~re are some good money saving and energy saving tips in the~. {Due of the specials which we have for you i~ a thing Called a ~!~ ~r~estrictor, which is a device you install 'i~ your shower and it cu~.~.~o~n:$0% of the volume of hot water used. And since it cuts doW~ii~6~O% of the volume of the-hot water,' it also saves you 60% on your costs to heat the hot water. For those of us that have LILCO that can~:.he a big money saverl' It probably will save you a substantial am~nz of money. If you have a family, of fc~r and heat elect~,icalty it could save you as much as $100.00 a':year by just installing one of these in your shower, so I do have these available. When you think of Consumer Affairs you think of defective products, defective services and fraudulent advertising. We do a great deal of that. We also handle occupational licenses throughout Suffolk-County and in this area all electricians, plumbers and home appliance re,pair con~ractors must have a Suffolk County license from Suffolk County Consumer Affairs. We urge you to hire only licensed contractors. If you have a question about contractors that you are thinkin.g about hiring, such as electrical or major home appliance repairs, the packets have our Hauppauge number and our Riverhead number. Shouldn't cost too much ~o call. You can find out whether the contractor has a license and is in good standing. Good consumer protection. Supervisor Pell and Town Board, thanks very much and I'll be around with the packets after the meeting. SUPERVISOR PELL: Thank you, Ken. Now you've found out who is here, if you would address your questions to the chair we will try to get answers today, if no~ we will have to get back to you; Who would like to be £irst? MRS. HO~ARD: I would li~e to ask about a noise ordinance. Do we have a noise ordinance on Fishers Island? SUPERVISOR PELL: You have no noise ordinance in the Town of Southold. It would be a resolution of the Town Board to have ~i!~t?. At this time there is none. TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: May I qualify that slightly? We do have a provision in our Zoning Ordinance which prohibits noise which is disturbing to a neighbor. There is that already in the Code. AUGUST 18, 1982 237 MRS. HOWARD: How woit~td you .hg~li~at? ......... TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: The police. MRS. HOWARD: Well, we contacted the police. We have bulldozing going on from 6:00 o'clock in the morning to almost 7:00 or 8:00 in the evening. We contacted the police and they said there is no noise ordinance. SL~ERVISOR PELL: Mr. D.A. Don Burns. MR. DON BURNS, Assistant District Attorney: There is a section of the Penal Law concerning noise, unnecessary and unreasonable noise. The police probably have information to investigate whether it is reasonable or unnecessary. SUPERVISOR PELL: Public nuisance is what I call it, MR. BUP~NS: Some of these problems can be s'o!ved by the enforcement of the Penal Law. SUPERVISOR PELL: You didn't get the answer you want but you did ge~ something the police can look into, public nuisance, public harassment. Anybody else? Yes, sir. MR. CUSHMAN: I had a question. I would like to know what can be done about cutting down the long length of. time that it takes to get a building permit. I'm one of those people who put in last October for a buflding permit and it has ,not come through yet and I don'~ expect it for a couple of months. What with the building industry in its terrible state I just wondered what the steps are for the Town to accelerat, e ~ process that seems to me to be fairly simple. Perhaps the Councilman would tell me what the szeps he referred to are. COUNCILMAN MURDOCK: Without knowing specifically where your property is, whether it involves wetlands, whether it involves roads, we!~ha~e-- the bigges~ problem we have here in the Fishers Island part of the Town seems to be whaz is called-public access. It requires a special action by the Planning Board because most of the roads do not meet s~ate qualifications so we have to grant an exemption. That's one problem that takes a considerable period of time. Again, without knowing the property, there are--- MR. CUSttM~N: There is no problem involved with access. SUPERVISOR PELL: Victor Lessard will.be here. Chris, will you go find Victor Less'ard, please and tell him to come in her. He's in a meeting with th-e Planning Beard and he will come in here and--- I know the answer but I want to get it from the Building Department. MR. GERARD GOEHRINGER, Chairman, Board of Appeals: The Planning Board asked us to come over in the late spring to look at'the private roads and we did ride all over the private roads in the Fishers Island Developmenz Company, and we did signify the roads that we felt needed attention, regraded and we did signify I think the overall opinion was tha~ most of the roads were in very good condition. We are attempting to s~reamline Section 280A as to condition of roads in private areas, and web,are at least aware of what the roads look like and their condition, and we will attempt at all times to get over here on these questions. Approved access is one of the first things you need before you can get a building permit. COUNCILMAN MURDOCK: ~r~ Cushman, specifically we'll have Mr. Lessard talk to you as soon as he finishes with the Planning Board. One instance in the matter of cooperation between the Zoning Board of Appeals and Planning Board we've cut about 90 days off of the passing the paper time which_ as I say they came over here ~ogether, they resolved a lot of problems together, they now know everything that they do together and they can now do it faster. Unfortunately, as I say now, without getting into specifics because I don't know what your building permit application is we know that we have had a problem in Semantics and we are seriously trying to cum the time down. I will talk to Mr. Lessard with you and find out why from October till now it still hasn't been done, but I'm sure we'll find an answer. 238 AUGUST 18, 1982 Sb~PERVISOR PELL: Who else would like to address the Board? MR. JOHN CLAVEN: I realize Bob gave us a partial answer. I would just like to know is the harbor, West Harbor, at Fishers Island treated differently than the harbors that are more supervised in the resv of the Town of Southold as far maintenance, applications for docks and jetties, and so forth. TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: I think I can answer that. The waters surrounding Fishers Island, that is West Harbor and so forth, are different than they are on the mainland and the reason for that is that under the colonial patent granted to the founders to the Town of Southold they acquired title to the lands in the creeks and inland wavers of the Town. The colonia~, patent did not i~clude Fishers Island, so therefore we never got title vo the lands Under the waters of any of your creeks or bays, so to that exment it, is different because we have a Board of Trustees who are granted the jurisdiction to manage those underwater lands that the Town of Sou~hold acquired under the colonial patent.~ To that extent ~t's different than it is on Fishers Island. Fishers Island, to the best of my information, the waters surrounding the Island are state waters and owned by the State of New York, so that they can convrol the bottom. Now you get to the question you mentioned of wetlands. The Town of Southold has enacted a Wetlands Law which requires you to apply for and obtain a wetlands permit before you can do any construction or do any excavation or any filling in the wetlands as defined in that code and wetlands are defined in t, he Town Code as those lands which have so-called marshlands, Spartina patens and Spartina alteniflora. That's the Town wetlands code. The State of New York also has a wetlands law and there are two gentlemen here from D.E.C. who can explain to you what jurisdiction they have with respect to their state law.: Any questions? ,MR. CLAVEN: No, but it may be a concern to the official}~ '~t came over here today that on any given Sunday there.are ore in that harbor, and if you read the bac~ of the'b°~t'i~i?~a~ and they leave their pollutents there every sing~e' w~ekend . seems to me that there is no control over it all and I there is something that we should be doing or that you coul~ do to help us control that problem. TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: As I explained we do have a boat co~de which prohibits dumping pollutents into the waters surrounding the Town of Southold. You get to a question of enforcement, because ~'~obody openly throw~ pollutents into the waters, nor does any0ne-~tush his head openly so you cannot fine him, so i-t is a question of enforcement. It is not ~nique to Fishers Island. We have the same problem in all of our waverways. SL~ERVISOR PELL: I might suggest that you and Bob get together after the meeting. Who else would like to address the Board? MR. BOGERT: I would like to get this business of boats' straight in my mind. I admit t~at you are not going to be able to enforce boats in the effect that you can't stop ~hem from polluting when- ever they are anchored. I think what people are trying ~o ~ind out here, can you regulate where they are anchored? TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: Yes, within the area of 1500 feet from ,the shore. Within that area you can regulate and you ca~ establish mooring and anchorage areas. MR. B©GERT:- -The question then becomes-permanent moorings would not be allowed either in that area, is that correct? TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: It all depends on what you want. MR. BOGERT: Of course. TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: Usually--they usually have a mooring ~rea within which you can moor and then they also, in some areas, have a requirement that if you wan~ a seasonal mooring, you want to put down a mooring, you have to have a permit and they designate exactly where it is supposed to be. SUPERVISOR PELL: Work it out with the Judge, come up with a plan you would like to see enacted here. AUGUST 18, 1982 239 MRS. DILLY KREPP: There is~a-,~ ',~h'at is,thinking about the poss~ibility of trying to get a bike path built, because they feel the!~$'4s a great deal of traffic and children going up and down the Island, also there are a great deal of runners. What is the legal procedure from the Town of Southold about putting in a bike path. Do we need your supervision? Do we need your approval? Do we have to give you a plan before we put it into being. Have you ever had experience with bike paths? SUPERVISOR PELL: This is going on p~ivate land? MRS. KREPP: Half and half. SUPERVISOR PELL: The minute it goes on Town land you have to come before the Board. MRS. KREPP: If it goes on Town land you have to go before the Board? That's the way it works? SUPERVISOR PELL: Absolutely. The minut~ you set foot on Town land the ~own Board rules on it. TOWN ATTOP~EY TASKER: We couldn't establish bike paths across private property without the consent of the owner. MRS. KREPP: How would you build bike paths, a grant of land or condemnation? TOWN ATTORN-EY TASKER: Well, I suppose if you want that and the taxpayers wanted to pay for the acquisition of land for a bike path---they've never done it yet. I think in most areas where they establish them they take a public highway, they take the shoulder and draw some type of delineation 'in the highway, a painted line or something and with signs designating that as a bike path. MRS. KREPP: If you are going ~o put one in downtown Fishers Island there's not much of a shoulder left. There's the sidewalk an~ you can't ride your bike on the sidewalk in the Town of Southold, right? SUPERVISOR PEIJ.: That's correct. My wife was comfng ou5 of picking up the mail in Greenport a month ago and she walked out the door and she got hit by a bike and was knocked right down and the mail wenE all out of her hand and she was knocked flat down on her back- side. Embarassing, but she didn't get hurt, but there are laws against bicycles on sidewalks in the Town of Southold. We ~re having enough problems in Southold, which the Chief of Police is familiar with, if you'have a problem here your constables or state police could talk with our chief and see how we're handling it on the mainland, if it's bicycles on sidewalkS. Your problem is bicycle paths. MI~. KREPP: I don't think it is really the problem of bicycles on sidewalks but bicycles in roads, one of these days one of the kids is going ~o get run over and perhaps if ther.e was a lane or a path then it might not happen. SUPERVISOR PELL: This is something that you people will have to come to the Town Board with a recommendation for, work with your judge or our chief of police or the state police and see how you would like to handle it. Give us some recommendations from you people~here, then let us consider it. Go that way. Who else wo~ld like to address the Board? MRS. KATHERI~ JENS~EN: Lights were supposed to be installed at the ~ennis courvs. The poles are up but the lights are not. SUPERVISOR PELL: The poles are up, the two poles are up? MRS. JENSSEN: The poles are up. SUPERVISOR PELL: $135.007 MRS. JENSSEN: I don't know how much they cost, I just know we were supposed vo have lights there. COUNCILMAN MURPHY: They were just delivered to Southold. 240 AUGUST 18, 1982 SUPERVISOR PELL: We have two problems here. One, the lights were just delivered. We had back orders on street lights. We plan to put stree~ lights up. It was suggested that we puz street lights up like I have seen in other tennis courts, private courts at people's homes. ~'e were going to put street lights up there and we were informed by people from Fishers Island that they didn't want street lights, they wanted---how much did they cost, Ray, what was that figure again? JUSTICE EDWARDS: I think the price per light was $600.00 and required six of them. SUPERVISOR t~ELL: That's $4,000.00,where we put in the b~tdget for regular street lights for up there and somebody on the Island called me up, I forget the name, and said don't waste your time putting up junk lights, wait until you get money for the $4,000.00 lights that they would need and Frank Murphy said the street light we were out of--we weren't ou~ of but they were on back order and did just come in. Ray, wan~ to add anything to that? HIGHWAY SD~ERINTENDENT DEAN: We can't use the lights that we understood that we could use from the beginning, you have to get regular lights that you use on tennis courts. It;s a differefit ballgame. SUPERVISOR PELL: The Board is going to have to make a decision how to light the courts, whether to go ahead and put street lights like we anticipated last year or put up $4,000.00 lights in next years budget. That's the decision the Board will have to make. MRS. JENSSEN: What kind of lights do you have on the tenl%is courts in Town? SUPERVISOR PELL: We don't have any. There courts, but private homes have courts and when whi. ch I have done, and they have regular str~ the big mercury vapor lights they job for private homes, and yet we come to pu~ up nothing but the best lights. The Bo decision how to light the court, whether ~o put up th to or wait until nexv year and put up the $4,000.00 li the a planned MR. RUSSELL: I wonder if there is anything the citizens can do to encourage. Judge Edwards to participate in growth of Seed~c~ams. He supervised what used to be an excellent clam bed and I'm s~re the Islanders would not consider it selfish on his part if we were allowed to go along with that plan and have-the clams that we used to have on Fishers. SUPERVISOR PELL: Le~ me say this to you. The seed clam program is something--the seed clams, not the spawning clmms--the seed clams is something new we're trying this year. They were tried.in other · owns, East HampTon Township and other ones, and the fellow who we hired Paul FIagg says they are growing faster in the waters of Southold Town than anywhere else he's ever seen. So far it's very successful program, yet your judge has brought up, if it works let's take some over ~o the Island. He is two steps ahead of you. I would like to introduce at this time Victor Lessard who has been with us now three or four months as Administrator of our Building Department. He's in the back of the room. Victor, there have been a couple of people who would like to talk to you after we get done. I will ask you one question, when a ~ilding permi% hits-your desk now, h~w Iong before you get it out, a strafght building permit. VICTOR LESSARD, Executive Administator, Building Department: Usually between three and five working, days SUPERVISOR PELL: A straight building permit hits his office and it is out in three to five days since he has been in office. COUNCILMAN NICKLES: How long for Fishers Island, that is what they wan5 to know. SUPERVISOR PELL: Now answer the second part, Victor. How long for and? AUGUST 18, 1982 241 MR. LESSARD: That is a very )roblem I realize but-there were two men over here Friday and as of now anything in this sector will get out within three and five days when it hits the office. SUPERVISOR PELL: How long have you been with us,Victor? MR. LESSARD: First of June, two months. SUPERVISOR PELL: Two months, sixty days and the backi~log we have-- the one that was brought up here that is many months old--we had this back log and that is why the Board went ahead and hired Victor to come in and oversee this department and try to cut out some of the problems we have. MR. JOHN PENDLETON: To get back to those tennis court :lights and you have street lights available and you have budgets to handle this year I don't see anything wrong in putting up the two street lights and trying them to see if they'll work. If they don't then you have lights there that can still be used for street lights, and you know you' re going to go out and spend-a little money. JUSTICE EDWARDS: Bill, how much is he going to charge to put the lights up? MR. PENDLETON: The same amount as you put in the budget that we agreed on. SUPERVISOR PELL: John, that is something the Board will have to discuss. Who else would like to address the Board? DR. HAAS, Fishers Island School District: blacktopping of the basketball courts. I'd like to know about SUPERVISOR PELL: About eight days ago, seven days ago I looked into the Block Grant to go after this money. It went all through county-wide. Two weeks ago the Board gave me authorization to sign the contrac~ which I jus~ did, it's in the works. It was approved by the county. I don't think it will meet w~th any problem. We put in for about eight or ten different things and had a problem with one but not with that one. I do not see any problem with that one. The county does take time to get the money. JUSTICE EDWARDS: Bill, can you explain to Dr. Haas why the $10,000.00 figure is used and how that money is going to go, because I think he got some figures that were much less than that from a-- SLiPERVISOR PELL: Ail right, $10,000.00 figure is the one we used. What it is is federal money. Any federal money that is spent must meet the Davis-Bacon Wage Act if it is to exceed $2,500.00. That means if it is over $2,500.00 you must use the federal government pay scale and the federal government pay scale is more than the local people's pay scale. This is why we put in a high figure. We hope it does not use all that up. Wha~ were the figures you sent me? DR. HAAS: Around eight something. SUPERVISOR PELL: Eight something. I hope we have enough in there to allow for what we know we are going to have to put out. Who else would like to address the Board? MS. ALLISON McCASS: I heard a rumor thatthe Town of Southold is hiring a consulting firm to do a study--ab, out an 18 month study-- on what was going to happen. Can you tell me who the firm is? SUPERVISOR PELL: Yes, the Town Board would like to update and is going to update its Master Plan of the entire Town, including Fishers Island. The Planning Board who oversees this, he's not here, I wish he was, they interviewed several consulting firms. We have not si~ned the contract yet, we are about ready to,probably the next Town Board meeting it will be ready to be signed. The have zeroed in on Raymond Parish~ Pine and Weiner. Their job will be ~o study the entire Town for future growth, zoning, industrial site.~, "M" zones, business zones and make recommendations considering all aspects of the Town. Then it is up to the Town Board to adopv. But this is so if we have further 242 AUGUST 18, 1982 growth we feel we can have regulated growth and as you know, time changes and conditions Change and we want to protect your Town and one of the reasons why we hired a professional planner to do this in case we every end up in court, they want to know what did you use. We are not professional planners. We might know and think we know what is best for your Town but if you go to court you want to have some professional behind you. The cost is about $75,000.00, approx- imately. MS. McCASS: Will the results be published? SUPERVISOR PELL: Absolutely. Public information meetings will be held To have citizen's input and we will make sure one is-held'here before any of this goes into draft we plan to hold citizen's input meetings with the consulting firm. MS. SANDY ESSER: Is there any regulation of noise by aircraft on Fishers Island? Planes fly very low over our house and we were attending a party on West Harbor and a plane flew about 15 feet over the trees coming up West Harbor. Is there any kind of juris- diction about aircraft? SUPERVISOR PELL: If it's !500 feet it might come under FAA unless it!s on approach to a runway or takeoff. I don't know the answer to that one but I will find out. I will get back to you. Give me a day to get back to you to see what the FAA says about it. You didn't get the number of the plane by any chance? MS. ESSER: I know the pilot. SUPERVISOR PELL: Okay, then talk to me after the meeting. Who else would like to address the Board? People, if I could, refreshments are going to he served back there, they're being set up~aad I'm eyeballing them up here. Who else would like to address %he Beard? MRS. HOlVARD: Safetywise going into the airport, ~there are ~;~go road- w~ys. One of the first ones is very:~narrow. The first~ one %s one- way and the other one goes back in the opposite way. tf'"t~ha~re is some way you can 4hark them as two lanes. The other question is., is there any way ybu could have a sign when you hav~ 'a ~btin~j driveway on the South Beach. There is a lot of traffic on the t~aCh ~ro~d and it is not in too good shape. SUPERVISOR PELL: Speak to Mr. Dean when we get done today. Mr. Dean is sitting on the end and he can talk to you about b~th of those things. Who else would like to address the Town Bo.g~d? DR. HAAS: I"m speaking in behalf of the Fishers Island School and I have before me a magazine which, they're selling. The book is called Sea Breezes and is about the histo~ and so forth of Fishers Island. It's an excellent book if anybody wishes to buy it and I will have them available for you here. ~e're not looking for charity but I know you people came to the Island to find out something about Fishers Island and this book will show you all about it. It is very very well done and look it over and you'll see that it is good. SUPERVISOR PELL: Before I adjourn I would like to ask Larry Tuthil!, did you bring the flood maps with you? MR. TUTHILL: Yes. SUPERVISOR PELLi The Town officials are involved in the flood plain map. The Town Engineer is here and would ask you all to look with him and go over this if you have time. October 20th we are going to file any objections to them and we musz do it by that date. So give us your input now while you' re here. If not, I would like To adjourn the meeting. Moved by Councilman Murdock. seconded by Councilman Murphy, it was RESOLVED that there being no further business .to come before this Town Board meeting '~Ournment was called at 2':33' P.M. Vote of the Town Board: ~es: Justice Edwards, C~uncilman Murphy, Councilman Murdock, Councilm~ Nickles, SuDervisor Petl. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. Southold Town Clerk