HomeMy WebLinkAboutMarina Parking Zone Amend 1990LOCAL LAW NO. - 1990
A Local Law in Relation to Zoning
BE IT ENACTED by the Town Board of the Town of $outhold as follows:
Chapter 100 (Zoning) of the Code of the Town of Southold is hereby
amended as follows:
1. Section 100-191(A) is hereby amended to read as follows:
Type of Use
Required Number
of Parking Spaces
Marina
1 space per 4dry racks,
1 space per 2 boat slips,
moorings or dock spaces,
plus 1 space per employee.
II. This Local Law shall take effect upon its filing with the Secretary of
State.
PUBLIC HEARING
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD
April 24, 1990
8:02 P.M.
IN THE MATTER OF A PROPOSED "LOCAL LAW IN RELATION TO ZONING".
Present:
Absent:
Supervisor Scott L. Harris
CoUncilman .George L. Penny IV
Councilwoman Ruth D. Oliva
Councilwoman Ellen M. Larsen
Councilman Thomas H. Wickham
Town Cle~-k Judith T. Terry
Town Attorney Harvey A. Arnoff
Justice Raymond W. Edwards (out of town)
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: The second public hearing of the evening, is one entitled
amending Chapter 100, Section 100-191 (A) of the Code of the Town of Southold.
George, would you read the legal notices, please, and communications that follow?
COUNCILMAN PENNY: "Public Notice is hereby given that there has been presented
to the Town 13oard of the Town of Southold, Suffolk County, New York, on the
27th day of March, 1990, a Local Law entitled, "A Local Law in Relation to Zoning:.
Notice is further 7~iven that the Town Board of the Town of Southold will hold
a public hearing on the aforesaid Local Law at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road,
Southold, New York, on the 24th day of April, 1990, at 8:02 o'clock P~M., at
which time all interested persons will be heard. This proposed "Local Law in Relation
to Zoning" reads as follows:
BE IT ENACTED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
I. Chapter 100 (Zoning) of the Code of the Town of Southold is hereby
amended as follows:
1. Section 100-191(A) is hereby amended to read as follows:
Required Number
Type of Use of Parking Spaces
Marina I space per 4 dry
racks, 1 space per
2 boat slips, moorings
or dock spaces, plus 1
space per employee.
II. This Local Law shall take effect upon its filing with the Secretary of State.
Copies of this Local Law are available in the Office of the Town Clerk to any inter-
ested persons during business hours. Dated: April 10,1990. Judith T. Terry,
Southold Town Clerk." I have affidavit of publication from the Suffolk Times,
a like affidavit from the Traveler-Watchman, and any affidavit of posting from
the Town Clerk, that it's been posted on the Town Bulleting Board for the
appropriate time. I have the following communications. From the County of Suffok,
Department of Planning, Pursuant to the requirements of Sections A 14-14 to
23 of the Suffolk County Administrative Code, the above referenced application
which has been submitted to the Suffolk County Planning Commission is considered
to be a matter for local determination. A decision of local determination should
not be construed as either an approval or disapproval. Very truly yours, Arthur
H. Kunz, Director of Planning. From the Planning Board, Town of Southold,
from Bennett Orlowski, Chairman. The Planning Board has been asked for its
recommendations on a proposed amendment to Chapter 100-191 (A) of the Zoning
Code. The proposed change will amend the parking requirements for mai-inas.
The following resolution was adopted at the Planning Board's public meeting on
April 9, 1990. WHEREAS the legislative intent is to accomodate a.new type of
boat storage in marinas and also to develop a parking requirement that is based
on actual needs; and WHEREAS the Town Board had authorized a parking survey
of a local marina during the summer of 1989, which results showed that the Town's
current parking requirement was excessive; and WHEREAS the Planning Board
finds that the parking requirement should reflect actual conditions in the field;
and WHEREAS the Planning Board finds that the current parking requirement
for marinas does not take into account the parking needs generated by the dry
rack storage of boats, which is a type of storage that reflects a steady trend
in the marina industry towards maximizing the use of upland, in the face of increasing
regulation of and competition for the waterfront; BE IT TBEREFORE RESOLVED
That the Planning Board recommends the passage of the proposed amendment which
will change the requirement from one parking space per slip, mooring or storage
capacity to one half. a space per wet slip and one quar~:er of a space per dry rack
storage space. The existing requirement of one space per employee will not be
affected by this amendment, and the Board supports its retention. It'.s a communica-
tion from Bennett Orlowski, Jr. The Office of the Building Inspector, I would
suggest the propo, sed law on racks, in the Marine I & II Districts, be extended
to address the following consi¢leration: 1). Define under 100-13. 2). State whether
this is part.bf M:~i~niMarine business or to be considered an accessory thereto.
3). If accessory, it would have a present height limit of 18'-0. Would that include
the boat on top or the empty rack? 4), Would this type of unit requires a Special
Exception from Z.B.A. and/or amended site plan? Answers to these would cut
down on public aggravation immediately. That's from Victor Lessard. We have
no further communciations. I would just like to address, briefly, how this came
up, and I see that the Planning covered a lot of it in their letter to us, but
approximately a year ago, the Planning Board in addressing site plans for marinas,
that are going into dry rack storage, came to the Town Board with a difficulty.
The difficulty was, is that they had no requirement for dry rack storage in marine
uses, and they find that this is a trend with the cost of marina space, and the
increase use on only weekends, and an occasional use of boating, that more people
are happier, ratl~er than store the boats in the water, to store them out of the
water, and they felt that this was a trend, and they asked the Town Board, as
is required in the Code, to draft on this. Well, we sat down. Ruth was the
Chairman of the Code Committee last year, and we sat down for probably two or
three months, and addressed different, we got imput from different sections of
the community on this, and we found' that we were getting, one side wanted one
thing, and one side wanted another. The marinas presented us with documentation
on national level, and other people presented us with documentation on a local
level from neighhoring towns.. The Town went and spent, i in the ir~terest of fairness,
approximately a thousand dollars last summer. We have here from July 22nd to
September 4th, we had a report of the actual marina parking on weekends. I
believe it was done on both Saturdays and Sundays. On reviewing all of this
documentation, the Town Board,and the Planning Board, and the Legislative Committee,
agreed that on the legislation, which is presented here today, and that is why
the Planning Board is recommending it. I just want to tell you, at this point,
I'm just telling you the background of it. I'm not speaking for the legislation.
I'm not speaking against the legisla~cion. I'm trying to give people a background,
because I received a lot of calls, questioning why this is coming up, and was
I sponsoring this? This is a Town Board response to the Pianning Board's request,
and that's all it is. Thank you.
PH - 4/24190 LL, Zoning,Pgf% ~
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: At this time, I will entertain comments on this public
hearing. Please' direct all your comments to the Chair, when you come up to the
podium; please state your name, and organization, if any, that you represent,
and I will start on my right. Is there anyone on my right, who would like to
speak either for or against this proposed. Local Law?
ALICE HUSSIE: I always seem to be number one here. Ali~:e Hussie, League
of Woman Voters, Riverhead-Southold. The proposed amendment on 100-191.A
is contrary to the Town Board's goals and standards as set forth in the Town
Code, Chapter 97, Sections 11 A:and B. To review, 97-11A reads, the Town
Board of the Town of Southold finds that rapid growth, the spread of development,
and the increasing demands upon natural resources' are encroa'~hing upon, or
eliminating many of it's wetlands, which if preserved and maintained in an undisturbed
and natural condition, constitute .important physical, sobial, recreational and economic
a$~e~s-~o the existing and future residents of the Town of Southold. 97-11B says,
it is the intention of this chapter to protect the citizens of the Town of Southold
by providing for protection, preservation, proper maintainence, and use (~f it's
wetlands in order .to minimize danger, and then it.lists three or four lines, where
fish, and fowl, and everything else, that we don't want to damage. Continuing,
therefore the Town Board declares the regulation of wetlands of the Town of Southold,
i~ essential to the health, safety and welfare of the people of Southold Town,
close quote. This' proposed change in the Code presents a very real potential
of putti-ng more boats in the water than the-water can sustain. The fuss over
pa~king !ets in a ';back do~r" approach to marina expansion. By increasing the
parl<~ng spaces, argument can be made that it is illogical to provide so many park-
ing Space, if you are not going to have a comparable number of boats. Local
marina operators note that only about 25% of marina capacity is used by residents
of S~)uthold. Simple arithmetic, then, tells us that 75% of marina use is for non-
residents. Can we afford to cater to those 75 out of 100 people who come to play
in Southold, and then leave us with the clean-up, and other residue of overuse?
The Town has the obligation to protect its natural resources for its citizen and
taxpayers. Asking for ½ a Parking space per slip and ~ space per dry rack
is unconceivable It is over use. A look at codes of neighboring towns with
similar coastlines tells the following: Brookhaven, Islip and Freeport allow one
parking space per slip and dry rack counts as a slip. Babylon, Huntington, East
Hampton and Southampton require 1¼ - 1½ spaces per slip and in some codes, a
rack counts as a slip. Marinas are located in areas with the most ideal conditions
for protection from the elements and rough seas. However, that protection factor
is the same one to consider when one thinks of the flushing action required to
keep the water clean. With the deterioration of water quality, fish and wildlife
habitats are jeapordized,;and projecting into the future, the very reason that
people have for using the waters here will be ruined and the boating and recreation
industry will self-destruct. You are about to bite the hand that feeds us. People
visit the North Fork for its ex-urban assets: trees, birds, open vistas, beaches,
relaxed atmosphere, fishing, sailing, things that at one time attracted them to
Sheepshead Bay,and Northport,and Babylon, and Freeport, now places they run
to us, in order to escape. The League of Women Voters, Riverhead-Southold reads
into the record it's opposition to this amendment and strongly urges the Town
of Southold to work with the New York State Division of Coastal Resources to
make any changes in accordance with New York State approved marine criteria
already in place. To paraphase the mandate of the, New York State Department
of State to Town Boards, you must do what is best for the majority of your citizens,
not the minority. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Thank you for your comments. Is there anybody else,
that would like to comment?
Pg 4 - PH, LL Zoning
BILL LIEBLEIN: I'm Bill Lieblein, Port of Egypt Marine, and I would, also, like
to speak in favor of approval. At the Code Committee meetings last year, there
was a great deal of discussion, ~s to regards what other towns did and so on
and so forth, and as a result of that, it was determined that you would do the
study, which you did. The study shows that what we had been saying has been
true. As the person who is running a dry rack operation fo'r twenty years, we
have never seen over 15 to' 20 per cent of our boats go out on any one time, on
any one day. With regard to this change in parking, increasing the destruction
of wetlands, I would say that it would be just the opposite. To meet the boating
needs of the next 20 to fifty years in this town, if dry rack is used, it reduces
the amount of waterfront, .that has to be destroyed to create a marina, and if
the town wants to control how many boats are going to be used in the town, they
should set a limit as to the number of the boats, and not use parking as a means
to deter that. The Town has a very limited number of spaces, if you look at
the zoning map in which new marinas can be built based on the present zoning,
so the Town will basically, and the Town residents will be depending primarily
on the exi.sting marinas to meet that need in the future, and again, requiring
massive parking areas, that are not required,~ ~loes not make sense, so again,
I'm in favor of this.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Thank you. Is there anybody else in the denter, that
would like to speak?
RICHARD RIZZI: I'm Rich Rizzi, Southold Marine Center, and I'd just like to
thank you people for considering changing parking to the actual conditions really
are. The survey last year, showed approximately 20%, I believe you said, that
number of cars per slip. At my paricular marina, I believe, we run about 10%,
and one other thing I'd like to point out, my particular marina approximate'ly~75%
of the people are Southold Town residents. They are not outsiders, l'd like
to thank you, and I recommend you do pass this act. Thank you.
CHARLES WITZKIE: My name is Charles Witzkie. I'm a resident of Southold,
and run a marina in the town. Our rate of local citizens is near 50%, and the least
we've ever had is 34%. We've never had a parking problem, never had a car park '
on the road, and we do have approximately 100 boats. I believe it should be
passed as it's read. If they do allow us to expand, it's going to be used on upland
facilities. This is going to better for the The boats will be out of the
water. There will be no discharge in the water. I believe it should be passed
as is. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Is there anybody else, in the center?
SKIP GOLDSMITH: Skip Goldsmith. Goldsmith's Boat Shop. Southold. I've heard
a lot of talk over the years about boats being a contributing factor to pollution.
l'm sure to some extent this is true, but a while back there was a study made,
and it was determined at that time, with the amount of pollution caused by boats
in the country, as a whole, amounted to 1/10th of 1%, and I think that being a
seasonal business, boats are very minor, as far as pollution is concerned. I think
we need to address our concern about road runoff, and things like that, rather
than to address the boaters as being a pollution factor. I, for one, would also,
like to say, that I think if you go down to the park districts you'll find that 75%
of the people, that use the park district today, are outsiders and not the local
people. It's not just the marinas, and I think that we're maybe barking up the
wrong tree in a lot of things we're doing. I think, we only have a few marinas
in town, and I'd like to see a committee from the town or any other of the groups,
that are represented here, whether it be the Environmental Council, League of
Women Voters, come around, visit the marinas, and see what's needed. See what
the plans are, that the marina owner has for the future, because we defin~tely
Pg 5 - PH, LL Zoning
need marinas, there's no doubt about it, and I think we lack cooperation in this
town. I've never seen one person come 'into my marina, look the situation over,
and say they want to help me make a determination as what going to happen in
the future. I think we need to work together, and this parking issue is one thing
that I'm not too familar with, but I think that the way it's written, it should be
passed, and I think it's the cooperation that we need to have in this town from
everybody. I think it will go a long way to help in solving a lot of problems
that we have today. Thank you very much.
NORMAN BOOS: I'm Norman Boos. I have a marina in Cutchogue. We never had
a parking problem in the eleven years, tbat I'm there. I just want to thank the
Town for making that survey, and bringing out the truth of parking in marinas.
I suggest this I~e passed. Thank you.
VIRGINIA MOORE: Virginia Moore. I belong to the League of Woman Voters.
I'm a director of the North Fork Environmental Council, and as my old friend,
George Penny knows, I'm a boater, and I've been about 20 years at Brewer's
Marine, until I moved to Albertson's Marine this last year. I haven't had much
experience there, yet, but I can tell you about my problems at Brewer. In the
last few years, it's gotten increasing hard to find a place to put your car, when
you go to get on your boat. It's gotten to be almost impossible to find a place
close enough, that you don't have to play pack horse getting the batteries and
the other heavy goods down to the boat, and when you're working on your boat
in fitting off time, it really gets to be a madhouse with all the boats up on the
racks, and not enough space to put the cars, and George, I'll be interested to
see what happens now that they're digging away so much of the land there, whether
you have trouble finding places, too. I think what the marina operators, with
all due respect to them, are overlooking, is the fact that the way things are now
we might be using 34%. In my experience at Brewers, it a beck of lot more than
34%, but if you scale down your requirements the way it's proposed, there won't
be any parking places left for the late comer. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Is there anybody else in the center?
ROBERT SCHNEIDER: Robert Schneider from Mattituck. l'd like to say that
I support the concerns of the Environmental Council, and those expressed by
the League of Woman Voters. As a resident, who lives accross from a marina,
I see first hand the effects on the environment. On a Sunday morning, the noise,
the horns from the boats, the beer bottles, the beer cans, the soda cans, the
unit experent in the water, that's obvious after a busy weekend, are realistic
evidence to me of the problems that additional boat traffic at the marinas would
present. I'd appreciate if the testimony of one person, who lives accross from
a marina and who's life is disturbed regularly by that marina, I'd appreciate if
that were taken into account, as well as the more global issues, that have been
described to you. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Is there anybody else in the center, who would like to
speak? If not 1'11 move over to my left. Is there anybody, who would like to
speak?
RONNIE WACKER: My name is Ronnie Wacker, and I'm with the North Fork Environ-
mental Council, and I think maybe George, your error was just in evidence of
were your heart is. You said that it was one parking space per boat, it's the
Code proposal is four parking spaces per boat, but I think really,as boatman your-
self, you know it will be a lot better to do it the other way, the way it is right
now. It's been a year, since the Town Board anacted zoning ordinances, last
January, and you all told us, don't worry, we know they're flawed, but we'll
pass them now, and we'll fix them later, and now it's a year later, and the Code
Committee has come up with a change. Unfortunately, they .want to fix something
that isn't broken, or rather that makes sense the way it is. They're suggesting
that we change the requirements for parking spaces in marinas. We were hoping
that, you know, with this promise that you'll come up with improvements, that
they would come up with something that would improve things, but this change
is not an improvement. It's going to create more crowded conditions in the water.
The Code, now, calls for one parking space per boat at a marina. Other towns
on the East End have similar requirements, from One to one and a half spaces
per boat, Southampton, Easthampton, Shelter Island, Riverhead even. The Town
Code Committeee now suggests the proposal to drop requirements for parking spaces
to a quarter space per boat. in dry rack storage, and a half space for a boat in
the water. Well, at first it seem that cut~ing pa-rl~ing spaces might be beneficial.
Less road runoff, can't quarrel with that, less pollution. Yhis coin has a flip
side. Fewer parking spaces, really mean more boats. It depends upon how you
look at it. If I am operating a marina, I would think how I could put in more
boats. If I~m an environmentalist, then I'd say, great, fewer parking spaces,
less pollution. But you could have four times as many boats in line storage, and
double the number in' the water. Just considerate it. We're concerned now about
pollution of oul' creeks and bays. We still don't have scallops in Peconic Bay.
How much more pollution will four times the number of boats add to the creeks
and bays. Suppose the other towns around the bay were to relax their standards.
We all share the same waters. It seems to me, that our coastal rules should be
decided with consideration for the acc~tmulative impact on the bay we share. We
can no longer act unilaterally, and hope that everything will turn out for the
best. That nobody will notice that we are using more than the lion's share of
a natural resource upon which we all depend. You know, Earth Day reminded
us that we are all interconnected and interdependent. Trees cut down in the
Brazil rain forest threaten global warm for the rest of the world. It's just as
simple as that. You know, there's nothing that happens anywhere that doesn't
affect someplace else. Isn't it about time we consulted with our sister towns to
see what is best for all ot: us. I'd, also, like to ask, why did a Town Board give
a declaration of no-significant effect on the environment on this suggested change.
I seems to me that there must be an effect. You know, it's on the water, and
anything that happens on the water has some effect. I do think that we should
give this a little more thought. Thank you.
DAN ROSS: Dan Ross with Brown's Wood Association. There's association members
here in numbers tonight, and the association is strongly opposed to this amendment.
We wish to join in prior statements of those opposed, and just for the record state
that we really don't understand why the Board would consider this amendment,
which would have such an impact on the Town's wetlands. A number of the marina
owners have stated that they had no problems with parking, so the question has
to be raised of why change the parking situation then. The question should be
asked, are we going to be the leaders of the East End towns in this area, and
what's going to be a consequences with respect to the competition? What are the
marina owners in the surrounding towns going to say with respect to the parking
ordinance in their own towns? I don~t understand why this Board did not request
a recommendation from the Trustees. It may be you see it as a clamming issue,
and not so much as an environmental issue, but it's the Trustees who have jurisdic-
tion and say over the wetlands in this Town, and it seems like a slap in the face
not to request their imput from those who have worked so hard in this area. We
would request that the Board seek imput from the Trustees, as it has from the
Planning Board, and give the Trustees time to submit to you their recommendation.
Thank you.
Pg 7 - PH, LL Zoning .~-~,
F. M. FLYNN: My name is F.M. Flynn. I am a resident of the town. I have
a prepared statement, that I'd like to make. It will take a matter of a few minutes,
but that pales into insignificance as to compared to the years along contributions
of the marinas, which is the background of this matter. I must apologize if I
have difficulty with my presentation, l'm under a form of chemical treatment,
that makes it very difficult for me to talk, however, I shall read my statement.
I shall not mince words. There is something rotten in ~he Town of Southold,
This proposed amendment epitomizes it. I submit you cannot vote on it without
you, and the public, knowing, and considering, its origins, its total ramifications
and its overall impacts and cumulative effects. At the very least, due to the Town-
wide effects on such proposed legislation, a DEIS and a GElS would be required
prior to any vote thereon. This proposed amendment represents the culmination
of an approximately five year history of the Southold marina industry's covert
influence on the Town. During that period they met constantly with, respectively,
the Town's Marina, Code and Legislative Committees. The public was excluded
from participation. Tonight's hearing affords us our sole opportunity to comment
thereon and publicly expose what has really transpired without the knowledge
of most T, own residents. During this time, the marina operators dictated the exact,
and outrageously broad terms of the Master Plan' zoning for Marina Districts. All
nonconforming marinas were made conforming by the Master Plan. This entire
zoning district was tailored to the demands of marina operators. Sitting members
of this Board participated, actiyely or passively in this sordid exercise. The
five days minimum legal notice given is typical of the regard ~he Town shows for
the opinions of its residents. Contrast this w.ith the five years of conferences
with the marina operators. This for an amen.dment that would have devastating
effects on the environment, health, safety and welfare, and the very character
of the Town. Courtesy of the Legislative Committee, we are now presented with
a proposed amendment that consitutes a masterpiece as a brazen, cynical, and
deliberately deceitful attempt to conceal its true purpose from a naive and unwary
citizenry. Anyone who maintains that the real purpose, or thrust, of this proposed
amendment really concerns itself with vehicular parking, is in my opinion, is either
uninformed, a fool or a liar. The true and artfully concealed thrust is to provide
marina operators with increased profits by means of a windfall concocted to permit
them to accomodate four times as many boats as permitted by the present Zoning
Code. In addition, it proposes to make them a gift of the utility 'of, and hence
the value of, four times the value of the waterfront property they actually own.
The marina operators have apparently been proceeding on the assumption that
this hearing is merely "pro forma"; that the passage of this amendment is assured.
If so, who gave them such assurance? Is this to be regarded as a done deal?
As long ago as at least one and one-half years, the Port of Egypt submitted detailed
plans to both the Planning Board and the ZBA based entirely on the reduced parking
requirement incorporated in this proposed amendment. Incredibly, the Planning
Board ignored the devastating impacts of this project and issued a Negative Declara-
tion. By so doing, it defied SEQRA regulations. The regulations require identification
of areas of relevant environmental concern. A Negative Declaration must take
a hard look at them, and must provide a reasoned elaboration supporting the basis
of this determination. The Planning Board has done hoe of these and, apparently
based its decision on a faulty, incomplete and misleading Long Form Environmental
Assessment submitted by the applicant. As further proof of the marina operators
assurance, the ZBA has temporized through five hearings on the Port of Egypt's
outrageous demands for variance-s which would among other things, result in
building coverage twice that permitted by the Zoning Code and ignore the parking
requirement for several hundred additional vehicles. As I have repeatedly informed
the ZBA, none of the proof required of an applicant, by law, was submi,tted, nor
could it be. The question remains, why was the application not denied summarily?
Instead, to salvage the situation, we are presented with a Town-wide rezoning.
Pg 8 - PH, LL Zoning
Nevertheless, the Port of Egypt has continued to predicate its application for
variances upon the assumption of a change in the Zoning Code upon passing of
this amendment. At the last public hearing before the'ZBA a-memorandum was
introduced, which quoted the proposed amendment exactly, both in wording and
format. This was over two weeks before the resolution concerning the proposed
amendment was presented to the Town Board for consideration. What conclusion
is a reasonably informed person to draw from these actions? It is in light of this
background that I propose to discuss those factors which the Board must consider
in reaching its determination. I refer, of course, to consideration of, the environ-
ment in all its aspects, health, safety, and welfare, traffic, fire hazards, and
the I~alanced, orderly development of the Town in accordance with the pious concepts
incorporated in the Zoning Code'and the hamlet concept of the Master Plan. Town
officials' opinions have evidently been swayed by the efforts of biased, self-appointed,
self-interested "experts. Thus far, the residents of the Town have gone unrepresented
in that category. I propose to change that. As is my right, I now propose
to spread my own qualifications on.-the record of th'is proceeding as an expert
on marine industry, the valuation of waterfront properties, and the effects of
zoning on value. My first employment in th~ marine industry was prior to World
War II when, as a college student, I worked summers for Todd's Shipyard and
Robbins Drydock in Brooklyn. At the beginning of World War II, I was detached
from my infantry regiment and placed under naval command in Virginia to assist
in the development of equipment and tactics for the use of small landing craft
in the invasion of North. Africa. In 1946, under government auspices, I returned
with a small group to Omaha.. Beach to study the feasibility of raising, and salvaging
the 13[ockade fleet and Mulberry Harbors off the beach. Subsequently, I was vice-
president of the Flynn-Learner Company which operated shipyards and dockside
facilities at Alemeda, California, Sand Island (Pearl Harbor) on Oahu, and Guam.
Our corporation was also engaged in the joint-venture operation of a shipbuilding
yard in San Diego. I was assistant to the CEO of a corporation which participated
as a joint-venturer in shipyard operations !n Philadelphiaj Camden-and Wilmington
areas. At one time, my company was offered contro'lling interest in the New York
Shipbuilding Company in Camden, New Jersey. Those familiar with industry may
remember it as the first or second largest private buil. der of capital ships for the
Navy. My function was to analyze the operation, weigh its future prospects,
and appraise its value. I have negotiated for dock space, among o~her places,
with the Brazilian Navy in Rio de Janeiro, Vickers-Armstrong at Barrow-in-Furness
and the Italian Navy and the Ansaldo Compary at La Spezia, the home port of
the Italian fleet. ! was also in charge of our open cover insurance policy with
Lloyds wich provided full coverage for our ship movements, cargo shipments and
related operations anywhere in the world. Prior to my retirement, I was an officer
of a corporation which had among its assets a marina with a capacity of approxi-
mately 300 boats. This has some pertinence with waterfront and marina operation.
In my later years, I was retained by variou~ government agencies as a consultant,
appraiser, and qualified expert witness. My relationship with the Attorney General
is particularly germane to the situation at hand here. The Atto.rney General was
always particularly concerned about claims made against the government based
on the probability of a change of zoning. His office took particular pains to instruct
me as to the law in this area. I attended seminars, received pe~'sonal instruction
and was provided with the latest court decisions and case studies. There are
two overriding influences on real estate valaes. The are location and zoning.
Location is fixed. Zoning is variable. Changes of zoning are the most sensitive
part of Town officials duties and the ones most subject to abuse. Zoning is the
money tree. Exercise of this power can make one property owner rich at the
expense of the entire communcity. Historically, the abuse of the zoning power
has been the most frequent source of municipal scandal and corruption. The Court
of Appeals has described spot zoning as, the antithesis of good zoning. Spot
Pg 10 - PH, LL Zoning
are signs of resurgence, including, hopefully, the return of the scallop. The
County has declared it a Critical Environmental Area. Plans are well advanced
at the federal level to designat it as a Federal Estuary, as is the case with the
Chesepeake. Yet, this amendment proposes to exploit this common resource to
an extent as much as six times that permitted in neighboring communities. The
increased traffic will consist primarily of small boats, Which, contrary to statements
made, are among the worst sources of pollution in all its phases. A-gain, for whose
benefit is this destruction o~ the environment to be wrought? I am perhaps naive
in believing that the protection ,of the public's health, safety and welfare is the
first duty of an elected official. Such considerations are completely ignored ty
the proposed amendment. Not only would it vastly increase heavy traffic, including
large trucks, over residential streets, but it would immensely increase the risk
of catastrophic fires. I need hardly point out to any informed, unbiased, person
the risks of storing fuel-laden boats within 15 feet of other structures. Marina
fires are among the most dangerous and have long lasting effects. I suggest you
check t,heir history including incidents at Long Beach, Lido, and most recently,
at Lindenhurst. Consider, if you will, the question of required emergency services
and of accessibility to combat such conflagrations. Consider the question of the
quality of life of nearby residents and the destruction of their property values.
The present situation in the Budd's Pond area is an example of abominable planning
and fiagrant example of the Town's unwillingness to exercise its Police Power on
hehalf of its residents. Marina operators in the area have long incorporated Route
25 into their operations. Route 25 at this point is a narrow, curving two-lane,
heavily traveled State artery. It lacks any traffic controls, curbs, curb cuts,
sidewalks, delineated driveways, or marked crossings. Pedestrians have been
killed in the immediate area. The marina operators cross the highway with impunity.
They use travelifts, forklifts, trucks and trailers to transport boats and heavy
equipment regardless of public safety. This amendment would exacerbate this
intolerable situation. It might just possibly interest the Board, that I was a consultant
to the Department of Transportation. I was the recipient of many case studies
involving highway construction and safety. The Department's criteria recommended
the construction of underpasses for small farm equipment and cattle. Do not highway
travelers rate the same prot~ection? The existing marin~ operations present the
prospect of carnage. How many other illegal and inequitious priviledges are to
be afforded marina operators and others? My investigations led me to discover
that land, zoned for, and used for marina purposes, has been assessed for years
as vacant residential land. The Master Plan had the effect of making every non-
conforming marina conforming. The range of permitted uses was increased immea-
sureably. I long ago warned this dictated reassessment. Nothing has been done.
Marina operators have installation in Town underwater lands and earn profits there-
from. Yet, even with the Town's budgetary problems, they are assessed no rents.
This application only serves to underscore certain of the more ridiculous provisions
of the Master Plan. It encourages the construction of places of public assembly,
i.e. motels and restaurants, within areas of high risk of conflagration; an our-
rageous disregard of public safety considerations. Was it mere coincidence that
the Marina Committee tailored the requirements of plot sizes to exactly conform
to the existing improvements on the Port of Egypt property? The Port of Egypt
property has seven, contiguous acres. It has a motel requiring 3 acres, a restau-
rant requiring 2 acres, and a marina also requiring 2 acres. Total-seven acres.
The minimum size for a marina is a travesty. As I have stated, such a site could
accomodate over 900 boats. As an equilivent residential site it would accommodate
approximately 3.7 occupants. Has anybody considered the effect on our infrastruture,
traffic increases, demands on utilities, etc. of this intensity of use? The laissezfaire
attitude displayed by the Town has encouraged further depradations. As I have
stated, the ZBA has before it an application which would develope a property
to twice the permitted building coverage and be short several hundred parking
places. The Town's reaction was to appoint the applicant to the Waterfront Revita-
lization Committee. As such, he serves as an official representative of the Town
Pg 9 - PH, LL Zoning
zoning is defined as the singling out of one owner's property for his benefit,
at the expense of other property owners. The Town of Southold's Legislative
Committee proposes to do this on.a grand scale by singling out an entire class
of property owners and enriching the marina operators at the expense of the entire
community. I submit, is this amendment not the equivalent of spot zoning on
a massive and unconscionable scale? As to the questions of reduced parking proposed
by this amendment, this constitutes nothing less than a calculated effort to confuse
and obfuscate its real intent, and the cumulative impacts which will certainly ensue.
Inexperienced, naive and gullible people have been shown vacant parking spaces
in the summer season and fed some pap about conditions in Australia and the Puget
Sound areas. Has anyon bothered to investigate the somewhat less remote situations
in, say, Lindenhurst and Freeport? The plain fact is that marinas have adequate
parking in the summer season. It is the off-season requirement .for boat storage
that dictates the need for space. The Department of State's Marina Criteria recognizes
this need. I invite the Board to inspect the off-season storage situation at, for
example, the Port of Egypt and Albertson's marinas. Boats are currently stored,
some two high, all over the property, including portions that are reserved for
other uses by the Code. The proposed amendment would increase this concentration
with no provision for increase in actual land area. Incidently, some of this storage
encroaches on State property. What kind of fools does the Legislative Committee
think we, the Town residents, are? The sole control the Town exerts over the
number of boats a marina may accommodate is the ratio of one boat per parking
space. This amendment proposes to abrogate this standard and permit the accommo-
dation of four times as many boats at any marina in the Town. It would permit
several thousand more boats in Southold? For whose benet~t and at whose expense?
Phrased in the simplest possible terms, if a marina has 40,000 square feet of net
parking area, it can now accomodate 114 boats. Under the proposed amendment,
it could accommodate 457 boats. If the entire minimum plot a~ea for marinas of
80,000 square feet as required by the Code, were utilized for parking, a minimum
sized marina could accomodate 914 boa~s in accordance with this proposed amendment.
Multiply this by the number of marinas in Town and consider their location and
concentration. There is, if possible, an even more sinister, and hidden aspect
of this proposed amendment. Buried .in its artful wording is the gift to marina
opera~o'rs~ of the utility of, and hence the value of land they don't own. In
the example given, the marina operator would be made the gift of three additional
acres of waterfront land. The area required by the Code for 457 boats is 160,000
square feet, or four times that proposed by the amendment. Thus, the owner
would profit from the arbitrary creation of three chimericial acres. Increased
profitablility for owners is ruled out by law as the basis for granting variances.
This amendment proposes to do just that, on a Town-wide basis, for the benefit
of marina operators. The requirements of New York State's Department of State
Coastal Management Program and its Marina Criteria have been ignored. As a
specific example, the Marina Criteria ~pecify, demonstrable need, as the requirement
for new construction or expansion. The marina operators admit current vacancies.
Even more important from the standpoint of the amendment's impact on the Town,
is the admission by the marina operators that only 25% of the l~oats currently
accommodated belong to residents of the Town of Southold. Thus, 75% of the
current accommodations are available ~o non-residents. The proposed amendment
would quadruple the accommodations. Thus, only one of sixteen boats would be
those of residents. Fifteen of sixteen, or 94% would be available to non-residents.
The basic questions is how far is the Town Board prepared to go for the benefit
of non-residents and the increased profits of marina operators? Is it prepared
to sacrifice our environment, the health, safety and welfare of residents and the
very character of the Town? The Pe.ccnic Bay, in particular, is a resource of
inestimable value, shared in common wi~h all the municipalities fronting thereon.
Arduous effors have been made to restore and protect its environment. There
Pg 11 - PH,LL Zoning
at various conferences and seminars. Somewhat perversely, I welcome the public
vote on this matter. We have heard so much rhetoric from Board members about
concern for the environment, orderly and balanced development, and the preserva-
tion of the Town's character and way of life. They also profess to s'ubscribe
to the pious sentiments cited in the Zoning Code.. The vote on this matter is
a public test of the real sentiments of Board members, which I trust the electorate
will record and remember. In closing, I would like to suggest that the proposed
amendment be entitled:, in shol, t form, as the, bad penny amendment. Like the
proverbial bad penny, which returns to haunt you, passage of this amendment
would haunt the Board, and the residents of the Town forever. I have a copy
of my remarks for the Board, as well as for anyone else who might be interested.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Is there anybody else, on my left?
TOM LOWRY: My name is Tom Lowry. I'm from the New Suffolk Civic Association,
and I shall not mince words. We would like to associate ourselves with the remarks
of Alice Hussie, and Jean Marriner, and Mr, Flynn, and Ronnie Wacker. One
slip, one car. We want nothing more. If you allow more, what you're going to
end up with is giving the marina operators more land in essense, that will be
debased land, and it 'will not be a leveraged buyout. This will be a leveraged
sellout, anc~ we don't want it. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Thank you. Is there anybody else.
NANCY SAWASTYNOWICZ: Nancy Sawastynowicz from Orient, and I would just
like to say, that this change in the code is a scam for the marina owners to just
expand and the majority of the people using these marinas are not locals. They
are people that are using these boats for weekends, and they're sleeping on them.
That was never brought up. I think it's a big impact to our bay, and I would
also, would like to bring out the fact that the bigger these marinas get, the more
boats, that means we'll have to hire more bay constables, which we've already
hired a third one. That's an impact to the taxpayers. Why should we have to
pay for all these marina owners to make millions of dollars, when the locals aren't
using them? There's just a few locals, that go there. I just think it's a big
seam, and they even said themselves the amount of parking has worked well, why
change it? It's just cut and cream. Leave it the way it is. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Is there anybody else?
ANN CREMMERS: I'm Ann Cremmers, and I represent Southold 2000. We strongly
oppose the passage of the proposed Local Law in relation to zoning in the marine
district. Southampton and East Hampton have even more strigent rules for parking
than we have, and since the Peconic Estuary is shared by all towns, it's Southold's
responsibility to, at least conform, and not place a larger burden on the bay's
already fragile system. Please, we urge you.
BETTY BROWN: Good evening. It's a pleasure to be here tonight, and my name
is Betty Brown. I come from Aquebogue. I wanted to say that in the fall of
1989, the Department of State held five regional coastal conferences. Many issues
were examined and proposals were discussed for changes in managing New York
State's coastal resources. To be certain it will present a challange to all involved
to successfully identify conflict, pollutant, educate and manage our most valuable
natural resource for generations to come. It is anticipated that an even more
of the population will rely on the coastal area for energy, food, water, recreation,
Pg 12 - PH, LL Zoning
housing and jobs by the 21st century. Population projections indicate that over
70% of all population growth in New York State from 1988 to 2010, will occur in
coastal counties. People's increasing use of the shore is unquestionably the cause
of the decline and quality, of the coast, and the principal reason why addressing
the problem is critica~l. People all ever the North and the South Fork, public
officials included, are se~iously worried about the health of our water. Thousands
of dollars are being spent, as well as scientist working desperately to determine
the cause of our unhealthy waters. I come to you this evening, as a friend from
the neighboring township of RiYerhead, a Vice-President of the North Fork Environ-
mental Council, and an officer of Save Your Bays. I am no stranger to the conflict
and development pressures. I'm sympathetic with local government's burdens anc~
managing the cons~uences of such growth, while maintaining the public welfare.
It is obvious to me here this evening, that in light of all Suffolk County is doing,
all o~ the h~undreds of thousand of dollars spent, and all the public interest, and
private interest, that by enacting this law this evening, you will not only be acting
prematurely, but illegally. Thank you. ~
SUPERVISOR HARRIS: Is there anybody else, who would like to speak?
response.) If not, I will declare this hearing closed.
(No
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK
ss:
STATE OF NEW YORK
~' :' ?~ NOTICEOF
PUBLIC ~ARING
ON LOC ~L L~W
~.z: ;PUBLIC NOTI~ is' hereby
'~'ive~ 'tha~ t~e~' has' been
~' V~semeo ~0 ~e Town Bo~d of
~he ~o~ of Soa~hold, Suflblk
Co~,:N~ ~rk. on ~he 27~h
NOTI~- IS '.FUR~HE R
~he Yown o$ Sourhold ~I~ hold
Hal~ Ma~ Ro~, Sou~ho~u,
~ Relafioa ~o. reads
fo~ows:
~ BE IT E~'A~ED b~ the
~own B~d of ~e ro~ of'
'is hereby ~ended ~ fo~o~
~nded ~o read as f~ows:
Req~ No. of
Type of:Use ' P~g SVaces '
M~na 1 s~ce per 4 ~y
~cks, I space per
~ 'boa[ sups,
~oo~ 'or dock
spies, plus I
· ]~ This Loc~ Law sb~ ~ke
~' Cop~brt~s Loc~ ~
are
a~able in the or,ce of me
Town Clerk to-~ imer~ed
perso~ d~ ~smess hoars
SOUmOL,D TOW~
Patricia Wood, being duly sworn, says that she is the
Editor, of THE LONG ISLAND TRAVELER-WATCHMAN,
a public newspaper printed at Southold, in Suffolk County;
and that the notice of which the annexed is a printed copy,
has been published in said Long Island Traveler-Watchman
once each week for ....................... /.... weeks
successively, commencing on the ........... /..~. ?. .....
Sworn to before me this ........... J. ~ ~.'~. ..... day of
.......... ~ ...... ,~9.~,e.
Notary Public
BArB^R^ ~. S~HNEJI~£R
I',~OTARY PUBLIC, ~ate ~f New Yo~
PI.~LIC HEAP. tNG ON '
LOCAL LAW
PU[tLIC NOTICE is hereby
to the. '{'o'~'i{ Rea~& ot thc T~ of
$omfiold, SuffoLk County. New
' i990.a Local raw ~fit}[led. aA
L~.~l I~w in _Relatin. lo Zonin~r~.
NOTICE 15 f '-----------------b~THER GWEN
, $~uthold l-ow~l Hall. Main Road.
~ BE IT'ENA~J bD,by ~e lown
~ ~d ~ ~e To~ of S~lhold ~
~'. ~o~a .'- "-
~, .~de~ f~w~r,:
~ , Re~ h'am~
rags or ~k
~:~* '" ' ~s.p~s I
~ . ........
~: ~9-~TMg
STATE OF NEW YORk'}
C~f OF
~erk O[~E SUFFOL~ TIMES, a Weekly Newspaper,
published ~ MattRuc~ in the Town of ~utheld~ ~un~ or
Suffolk and ~ate of New Yo~ ~d that ~e Notice of which
the ~nexed b a ~int~ ~, ~ b~n~gu~ ~bli~ in
eaid ~ewspaper once each week for / weeks
supereX, commenein9 on the /~ day of