HomeMy WebLinkAbout05/08/2025 Town of Southold Water Advisory Committee— Meeting Minutes
May 8, 2025
Attendees: Al Krupski, Vinnie Orlando, Anne Smith, Caroline Yates (virtual), Anne Murray,
Maggie Merrill, Kate Daly, John Stype, Kariane Chew, guest Ben Johnson
April 3, 2025 meeting minutes approved.
1. LIGWSP Steering Committee with USGS (AI)
a. Al attended. Contacted Orient Fire Dept and Oysterpond School. Using as an
instructional manual. Still working on the report. We're phase two.
2. Irrigation Code discussion with Ben Johnson (John)
a. May 201" 10am Code Committee on the Water Code. Irrigation professionals
were invited. Maggie and Anne M will circulate to the Civics. Vinnie, Al and Anne
can represent Water Committee.
b. Legislative intent: save water. Water Code provisions: Residential parcels: what
equipment. If new commercial subdivision, how does that work. What should
irrigation requirements be. E.g. new shopping center would need to use drought-
tolerant plants (only commercial not residential). For residential regulates when
you can irrigate. Evapotranspiration provision. In-ground device connected to
phone to tell you when plants need water. Can connect to hose function (if you
don't have in-ground system). Will water until saturation. Term: could be
moisture control, smart controller, industry can advise on term.
i. Will have Compliance provision e.g. after 3 years no one is grandfathered
(ask industry recommendations on timeframe)
ii. Override on smart sensor allows owner to water outside water sensor
guidelines
iii. WAC Proposal for change: Planning Board requires review during
regulatory process of install of irrigation process for all new
construction, additions etc., part of review process underway anyway,
one more permit
iv. Vendor(irrigation professional) could be pre-approved and licensed,
permit says I am pre-approved person and installed this. Suffolk County
qualification exists.
v. Like the Trustees, can we ask for an approved list of contractors for
Southold Town. What is then required for Town to manage and do?Just
an affidavit of this is what I installed?
vi. QUESTION: Do professionals recommend the override function isn't
standard or needed and it would be easy to exclude from installs
vii. QUESTION: How do we measure the impact of this provision? How do
we get that data?
viii. Recommendation: have irrigation provisions (detailed, nuanced) and
homeowner/hose provisions (simple, easy to understand) in separate
sections to avoid confusion
ix. Recommendation: Over two years, after phase-in complete, have
irrigation professionals responsible for upgrading the older systems every
spring during turn-on, in order to be compliant Code. Homeowner
doesn't need to apply for a permit themselves.
c. Shelter Island 82-5 irrigation permit might be helpful reference for future
d. Al asks re schools, watering front lawns that aren't used for any purpose.
Suggest we let the ornamental lawns brown. Ballfields only for maintenance.
Over time plant drought tolerant grasses. Town doesn't have jurisdiction over
the schools. Would need to be students, School Board interested/educated.
3. Salt water intrusion study for Southold (memo documenting conversation with Fred
Stumm) (Caroline)
Al referenced 1992 study that shows there is a layer of clay
TO BE DISCUSSED IN JUNE MEETING
S. Feedback on water conservation ad and press release (copy attached) (Kate)
a. North Fork Environmental Council (Mark)
b. Anne sent draft press release to all the civics to see who wants to join. Will also
send to the non-profits. For June agenda.
6. DWSP2 Update: Potential WAC role as Project Management Team (Caroline and Al)
a. No time to discuss but Anne will go back to DWSP2 with the recommendation
that WAC does not currently have the resources to serve as PMT
7. Update on Committee membership--nominations for new members (Anne)
Advertised but did not receive applications for new Committee members. Continuing to
solicit new members.
We should add a liaison from Fishers Island, as a separate member.
What is the DWSP2 PMT?
An important component of the DWSP2 plan is the identification of a project management
team (PMT).
The role of the PMT is to prioritize and coordinate tasks for the town to undertake to protect
the groundwater supply such as coordinating meetings with other branches of government and
working through agreements on such things as modifications to road salt usage and land
acquisitions for preservation.
The PMT typically consists of employees of the town planning, engineering, highway and law
departments and the SCDHS (Jason Hime), the water suppliers (SCWA-Joe Pokorny) and Chad
Mrowka (Fishers Island Water Company), a representative from the agricultural community and
finally the county and state departments of transportation. The NYSDEC will not be a member
of the PMT as they must oversee all the participating communities but that they are working on
dedicating staff to the support of DWSP2 around the state and should be available on an as
needed basis.