HomeMy WebLinkAboutTB-05/18/2004SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
May 18, 2004
7:30 P.M.
A Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board was held Tuesday, May 18, 2004 at the
Southold Town Hall, Southold, New York. Supervisor Horton opened the meeting at 7:30 P.M. with
the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
Present: Supervisor Joshua Y. Horton
Justice Louisa P. Evans
Councilman John M. Romanelli
Councilman Thomas H. Wickham
Councilman Daniel C. Ross
Councilman William P. Edwards
Town Clerk Elizabeth A. Neville
Town Attorney Patricia A. Finnegan
SUPERVISOR HORTON: We open the floor to the public at two set times over the course of the
meeting, as well as for any pertinent public hearings. The first time the public is offered the floor is
prior to the reading and voting on any of the resolutions that are on the agenda. Upon completion of
the voting on the resolutions, we offer the floor to the public to address the Board on general related
Town business. We have reports, public notices and communications available at the Town Clerk's
office Monday through Friday, which is open 8:00 A.M. to 4:00 P.M. As well, we ask that when you
do address the Town Board, you do so from one of the two microphones located at the front of the
room and state your name and residence clearly so that we can have that as part of our public record.
Moving forward, we will move for an approval.
Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the following Town bills be and hereby are ordered paid: General Fund Whole
Town bills in the amount of $236,805.20; General Fund Part Town bills in the amount of $29,999.86;
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Community Development Fund bills in the amount of $3,325.00; Highway Fund Part Town bills in the
amount of $107,216.92; Capital Projects Account bills in the amount of $1,970.11; Community
Preservation Fund (2% tax) bills in the amount of $12,272.55; New London Terminal Project bills in
the amount of $558,627.90; Employee Health Benefit Plan bills in the amount of $9,002.88; Refuse &
Garbage District bills in the amount $47,352.75; Southold Wastewater District $1,486.66; Fishers
Island Sewer District bills in the amount of $627.54 and Southold Agency & Trust bills in the amount
of $4,428.95.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Minutes of the May 4, 2004 Southold Town Board Meeting be and hereby are
ordered approved.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the next Regular Town Board meeting of the Southold Town Board be held Tuesday,
June 1, 2004 at 4:30 P.M.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
I. REPORTS
1. North Fork Animal Welfare League Financial Statement, 1st Quarter - 3/31/04 & 3/31/03
2. Southold Town Justice Court, Bruer - April 2004
3. Southold Town Justice Court, Evans - April 2004
4. Southold Town Justice Court, Price - April 2004
5. Board of Town Trustees - April 2004
6. Town Clerk Monthly Report - April 2004
7. Recreation Department - April 2004
8. Program for the Disabled - April 2004 Event
9. North Fork Animal Welfare League Financial Statements - December 31, 2003
10. Leave Time Summary Report - March 2004
II. PUBLIC NOTICES
None
III. COMMUNICATIONS
None
SUPERVISOR HORTON: At this point, we offer the floor to the public to address the Board on
printed resolutions. Mrs. Egan.
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JOAN EGAN: Joan Egan, East Marion. I have a number of things and you won't rush me, correct? I
would presume that you know, that reports, that you have all checked the Justice Courts reports. But
we will get to the resolutions before ! distracted, right? Again, #392, that is the roof. And ! don't
think you should do it, ! don't think it needs it, you don't know where you will be going and ! think if
it needs anything it may need patching and ! don't think you should do it. Now, #394, that is, ! have
no objection to the Sergeants and Lieutenants or anyone going out of town but this means again, that
there will be a Sergeant missing from the police station at a very busy time of the year.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: His shift will be covered.
MS. EGAN: Can any of this be done, they can't be done by the internet or books? It has to be live?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Unfortunately, most of these are interactive type of courses.
MS. EGAN: Well, you certainly need more policemen, then.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: ! would agree.
MS. EGAN: Too many chiefs and not enough indians. Now, what is #397?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: #397 is authorizing and directing me to sign the Community Development
Block Grant agreement between the Town and the County of Suffolk. That is an annual grant that we
receive, it is federally distributed grant that is administered by the County to the Town and the Town
receives a certain amount of monies for that and at that point we take those monies and we use them
for a community based project.
MS. EGAN: Hopefully. Yes, now #398, ! believe this is the school that our friend back here that is
not here tonight, has been wondering about for quite some time and has been asking questions about it,
correct? Child daycare project. We are going to be spending an awful lot of money there.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Actually, that is one of the community projects that the Town will partially
fund through the Community Development Block Grant.
MS. EGAN: Oh, well then ! very much object to that. Do these people pay when they go up there to
have their children taken care of?.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: ! don't know what the .....
MS. EGAN: You don't know?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: If! could finish, Mrs. Egan.
MS. EGAN: Surely.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: ! do not know what the fee is for daycare at that childcare facility.
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MS. EGAN: Well, then before we put any monies into it, whether it is a grant or out of our taxpayers
money, let's be sure we don't lose too much money. People who if they bring children into the world,
they should take care of them themselves.
SUPERVISOR HORTON:
MS. EGAN: Pardon?
SUPERVISOR HORTON:
And work four jobs to stay here, you are correct.
Do you have other resolutions, Mrs. Egan?
MS. EGAN: Yes, of course ! do. Don't start rushing me. Now, here we go again for the solid, #401,
402 and 403. That is the dump. That is Mr. Bunchuk. And ! don't think he is taking very good care of
the equipment that we have paid for. Do you find it funny, Mr. Edwards?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Mrs. Egan, please continue with your resolutions.
MS. EGAN: This is all for Mr. Bunchuk and this was addressed at the last Town Hall meeting...
SUPERVISOR HORTON: That is correct.
MS. EGAN: ...that he is not taking care of things as well as he should. It is #401,402, 403, 404.
Now, #405, the replacement of road signs on town roads.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: We are receiving a grant from the State to replace several...
MS. EGAN: ! heard Mr. Harris at the last Town Hall meeting.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Okay, so this is allowing me to sign that grant.
MS. EGAN: But in the interim, Mr. Horton, there are many, many street signs that are down, not only
up here but down there and there and this is causing accidents. So, somehow if they can get some kind
of a sign there before we get the big ones, ! think it is great, ! think Pat Acampora got you some
funding for them and ! think that is great, but it is now, what the 18th and Memorial Day, they will all
be out here and you have had so many accidents because people putt, putt, putt and they are looking
for signs and they don't see them
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Mrs. Egan, ! will bring it to his attention.
MS. EGAN: ! am going along. #407, now this young man, what Town does he come from?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: He comes from the Town of Southold, hamlet of Peconic.
MS. EGAN: Pardon? He is from Southold?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Yes, he works with us on an annual basis.
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MS. EGAN: Good. ! like to see them come from Cutchogue once in a while or Peconic or East
Marion.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: He is from Peconic.
MS. EGAN: Now, a seasonal police officer, do they carry weapons?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Yes, they are fully trained from the Suffolk County Police Academy.
MS. EGAN: Good. Now, #410, this is extremely important. These Traffic Control Officers, how
much do they make an hour? ! think you told me...
SUPERVISOR HORTON: $11.97
MS. EGAN: Well, it is by observation, you know ! do ride the roads, your head falling off Mr.
Romanelli?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Mrs. Egan, please continue.
MS. EGAN: They have their heads in books. They are there not only to see that people get across the
street but they do have cell phones and phones and they are not guarding the roads ....
SUPERVISOR HORTON: ! will bring that to the Chief' s attention.
MS. EGAN: Uh uh. ! am not finished. You have two that are excellent, one up here in Cutchogue
and the lady down there in Greenport. The rest of them are asleep at the wheel or reading the funny
papers. Or maybe they are studying for exams, ! don't know but that is not what they get paid for.
They get paid for...
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Mrs. Egan, your next resolution, please.
MS. EGAN: Pardon? ! am not finished yet. Now, #421, ! very seriously object. This Mr. Reale,
where is he from? He is a lawyer, where is he from?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: A north fork firm.
MS. EGAN: A north fork firm. What town?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: ! believe they work in both Southold and Riverhead.
MS. EGAN: Where is he from?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: ! don't know where his house is. All ! know is, he has expertise in this
field and we are retaining his services.
MS. EGAN: How old is he?
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SUPERVISOR HORTON: I do not know. My guess? Mid-forties, give or take a year.
MS. EGAN: You know his credentials? What school he went to?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: He is a lawyer.
MS. EGAN: Big deal.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: ! don't, Mrs. Egan.
MS. EGAN: You don't know.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: No, ! don't.
MS. EGAN: Well, then ! object to that one until you do. But more importantly, ! don't think we
should be spending any monies on this housing, affordable housing, as ! said at the meeting last
Thursday down in Greenport, you have too many issues up here that have not been resolved. And now
you are getting into something else and spending more money and getting absolutely nothing done.
There is nothing .....
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Do you have other resolutions, Mrs. Egan?
MS. EGAN: Pardon?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Do you have other resolutions?
MS. EGAN: Let me check, dear.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: There are only two left.
MS. EGAN: Well, let's see if we can hit those two. Well, again, this is #424, the Workforce Housing
Fund.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: We will have a public hearing on that at 8:00, if you allow us.
MS. EGAN: Well then you shouldn't have had it on here. ! will address that.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Thank you very much.
resolutions? Yes, Ms. Norden.
MELANIE NORDEN: Melanie Norden, Greenport.
Are there other comments from the floor on the
With respect to #397 through 399, in the past, I
could be wrong about this, but haven't there been recommendations made to the Town vis-h-vis the
expenditures under Community Development Block Grants?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Yes, each year, through the budget process, we hold a public hearing at
which point members of the public at large can make recommendations.
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MS. NORDEN: And this was one of them, ! take it. Okay. And how much money are we talking
about, in the grant itselt?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: It is, this portion of the grant for the ....
MS. NORDEN: Renovations.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Yeah, for the Family Service League Child Daycare Center, which is
essentially renovations to the Laurel School, we are allocating $164,900.
MS. NORDEN: And will the Family Daycare Center accept students from all hamlets and villages in
the Town of Southold.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: It has to accept not only in the Town of Southold, you know, these are
federal monies so ....
MS. NORDEN: So that means non-resident kids, as well?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: ! believe so, yes.
MS. NORDEN: So kids from the Town of Riverhead?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: ! believe so, yes.
MS. NORDEN: Okay. Additionally, does this mean that we or the Town, that is, will be signing a
contract with the Family Service League Child Daycare project to provide services in the renovated
building?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: No, we are assisting in the funding for the renovations. To help them get
off the ground.
MS. NORDEN: Well, you are renovating the building that is owned by the Town, right?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: No.
MS. NORDEN: Oh, you are renovating a building that is owned by whom?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: I believe, is that building still owned by the Mattituck School District, or is
it .... Mr. Cooper, you are on the Board of Education for Mattituck. Is the Laurel School still owned by
the Mattituck School District.
DOUG COOPER: Yes.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Yes.
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MS. NORDEN: Okay, so then will the Mattituck School District be entering into an agreement with
the Family Service League Child Daycare Project?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: You would have to ask that question to the Mattituck school.
MS. NORDEN: You must know the answer to it, though.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: No, ! don't.
MS. NORDEN: Okay, so run this by me one more time, we are renovating a building...
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Ask a clear question, the question is, is the Family Service League going
to contract with Mattituck schools to provide daycare services for ....
MS. NORDEN: In other words, we are renovating the building, who is going to have the
responsibility for insurance ....
SUPERVISOR HORTON: The Family Service League is ....
MS. NORDEN: ! know, except that they are not the owners of the building, ! am asking about the...
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Mr. Cooper, are they going to lease the building from Mattituck school?
MR. COOPER: Yes.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: To provide child daycare services and our Community Development Block
Grant, a portion of those funds are being used to assist this non-profit organization in the renovations
necessary.
MS. NORDEN: Gotcha. ! am just asking questions that go to liability issues and since the school
system presumably owns the building, the Town is undertaking to renovate the building with
Community Development Block Grants, then ! am asking questions that speak to the liability of what
will happen vis-h-vis expenses for insurance and all of that. Who is going to be liable for any
problems that might arise ......
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Those would be incumbent upon the Family Service League Child
Daycare Center.
MS. NORDEN: And they are an incorporated, not for profit?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: They are a 501 PC, yes.
MS. NORDEN: Do they have assets and all?
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SUPERVISOR HORTON: I don't have their information here in front of me, Melanie. All that
information, you could certainly call either my office or Jim McMahon or the school district, quite
frankly, to get the specifics.
MS. NORDEN: And any idea of what we are talking about in terms of programs and how many kids
we are talking about; how much they, what the service population will be or anything?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: The service population will be, obviously for Southold Town residents.
MS. NORDEN: And the for these other residents that you mentioned,
SUPERVISOR HORTON: ! didn't mention other residents, ! am saying that federal monies make it so
that...
MS. NORDEN: No, ! understand. How many kids are we talking about?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: How many kids can that building hold, Mr. Cooper?
MR. COOPER: Off hand, ! can't tell you. ! don't know what the Family Service League is planning
on, ! don't know what their goals are.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Yeah, the size of their service. That information is certainly available.
MS. NORDEN: Yeah, ! just have some concerns though that we are spending Block Grants and Block
monies of not an inconsiderable amount of money, and the question then is, whether there is any
liabilities that will defer at all to the Town.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: The answer to that is no.
MS. NORDEN: Okay. And if things don't go well with the Family Service League Child Daycare
project, then the renovations will essentially contribute to the wealth of the Mattituck School District in
terms of renovating a building, in other words.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: ! guess a grim view of that would be...
MS. NORDEN: Right. ! just wanted to, ! mean it just seems that a Community Development Block
Grants are...
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Actually, this was overwhelmingly received by the administrators of the
Community Development Block Grant, by the county and the federal offices because this is a much
needed, there is a tremendous need for child daycare in the community..
MS. NORDEN: Sure, but there is also a tremendous need for many other projects and services in the
Town of Southold.
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SUPERVISOR HORTON: Absolutely and this was one of the ones that a public hearing was held and
was chosen and we work very hard on an annual basis to divvy that money up, if you will, for many
different programs and this isn't the only program that we fund through the Community Development
Block Grant and if we could receive more monies, that would be wonderful, too. And each year we
try.
MS. NORDEN: Sure. Okay, well, ! think that will answer it for now. Also, with respect to, ! think it
is #422, major subdivisions, is that the number. Could you describe the Mill Creek Preserve major
subdivision?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: The Mill Creek Preserve is the, on Route 25 about, if you were driving
east from here, right before you get to Port of Egypt and Albertsons' on the left, there is that small
house that looked like it was a potato barn at one point, there is often a sheriffs car parked in front of it.
MS. NORDEN: Yeah.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: The property, the farm just adjacent to that to the east and all the way back
to the north, ! believe there is a total of 79 acre parcel of which more than 50 acres have been
preserved.
MS. NORDEN: And the subdivision has gone to public review? Has there been a public hearing on
the subdivision?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: There is not a public hearing on this subdivision, no. This was a
conservation subdivision that was handled through the Planning Board. There was a public hearing for
the county, ! am sure, for the county purchasing the development rights for that.
MS. NORDEN: So the county purchased the development rights on 70 some acres?
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: 50 some odd acres.
MS. NORDEN: Okay, let's cut to the chase, how many houses are we talking about?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: ! think you are talking about six on a total of 80 some odd acres.
MS. NORDEN: Actually, that is fabulous. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Yes?
L1NDA RULAND: Hi, my name is Linda Ruland and this is the very first time that I have ever
attended a Town Board meeting, so ! am a little nervous.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Welcome and thank you for coming.
MS. RULAND: My name is Linda Ruland and ! am the Director of the North Fork Early Learning
Center in Mattituck. The North Fork Early Learning Center is currently merging with Family Service
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League of Suffolk County and ! just would like to tell you a little bit about it, to kind of assuage your
fears. The North Fork Early Learning Center has been in our community for over 20 years and it is a
pre-school, daycare center for 3, 4 and 5 year olds. Over the years, they have realized that there is a
great need for daycare for children younger than 3 and the facility that we are in, which is the
American Legion building in Mattituck, cannot meet the codes in the New York State licensing
requirements to have a toddler program there. And so there was a meeting with Family Service
League and the North Fork Early Learning Center and for the last four years they have been working
together to merge into and have the North Fork Early Learning Center become one of their programs.
They also run 40 other programs throughout Suffolk County. They are a multi-million dollar
corporation and most of their funding comes from donations through bigger corporations and through
federal monies from there. Right now the North Fork Early Learning Center has 24 children, 24 full-
time children and our move to Laurel, we will not only be able to have a toddler program with two
different toddler rooms but also will expand our program to include over 60 children. There are very
few daycare centers on the north fork and most of the people that are on the north fork that have
toddlers, go into the Riverhead area. And so we are very excited about being able to offer this service
to the people of the north fork. ! think one of your other questions was whether anyone can come to
this center and of course, anyone is welcome to come to the center. We also do have students there
that are subsidized by the county, as well. Southold Town is helping to renovate the building but will
not be running the program in any way. Family Service League is entering into a lease agreement with
the Mattituck School District and ! believe it is a long-term lease and as far as our plans are, we don't
plan to fail so, we are hoping to look forward to a wonderful future here in Southold Town and
providing the services that are needed here for daycare. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Thank you so much. That was very helpful and we are delighted to
support the program. We will move forward with the resolutions on our printed agenda, so we can get
to our public hearing. Starting with 391.
#391
Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes a refund in the
amount $1~500.00 be paid to Commonwealth Land Title Insurance Company representing an
overpayment of the Peconic Bay Region Community Preservation Fund transfer tax on behalf of
Geraldine Barton.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#392
Moved by Councilman Edwards, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
WHEREAS the Town Board of the Town of Southold received no bids for the replacement of the roof
at the Southold Town Hall, now therefor be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs the Town
Clerk to re-advertise for bids for the replacement of the roof at the Southold Town Hall~ in
accordance with the plans and specifications, as prepared by James Richter, RA, Southold Town
Engineer.
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Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
#393
Moved by Councilman Ross, seconded by Councilman Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to Lieutenant
Frank Kruszeski and Detective Joseph Conwa¥ to attend the North Amityville Weed & Seed in
coniunction with CTS Associates Inc. Gangs And Youth Violence Seminar, on Thursday, June 18,
2004 at the Fraternal Order of Police Lodge Headquarters, 23 West John Street, Hicksville, NY from
9:00 am to 4:00 pm.
Registration fee for this conference will be $70.00 ($35.00 for each participant). Travel will be by
Town vehicle. All expenses will be a legal charge to the Police Department Training budget line -
A.3120.4.600.200.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#394
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to Sergeant
Henry F. Santacroce~ Jr. to attend the Property Room Management training seminar sponsored
by the Connecticut State Police Academ¥~ Meridem Connecticut, commencing on Wednesday, July
14 through Thursday, July 15, 2004, at the State Police Forensic Laboratory, Colony Street, Meriden,
Connecticut.
Registration fee for this conference will be $260.00 plus the IAPE Annual Membership fee of $40.00.
Travel to be by Town Vehicle. Hotel accommodations will be for approximately $150.00. Additional
costs will be for meals together with tolls and miscellaneous out of pocket expenses. All expenses will
be a legal charge to the Police Department Training budget line - A.3120.4.600.200.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#395
Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the proposal of Pirates
Cove Marine~ Inc. ~ Fishers Island~ New York~ in the amount of $2~089.69 for repair and
replacement of channel markers to be placed in both West Harbor and Hay Harbor~ Fishers
Island~ New York, as well as repairing and replacing, or returning missing markers that are lost during
the season, at a rate of $40.00 per marker, under the supervision of part-time Bay Constables, buoys to
be prepared and placed at the beginning of the season, and removed and stored by October 25, 2004;
foregoing all in accordance with the bid proposal.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
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#396
Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2004 General Fund
Whole Town Budget as follows:
Revenues
To:
A.3089.00 State Aide, Records Archives Grant
Appropriations
To:
A. 1410.2.200.500 Town Clerk, Computer Equipment
From:
A. 1990.4.100.100 Unallocated Contingencies
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
$10, 495.00
$13,368.00
$ 2,873.00
Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
#397
Moved by Councilman Edwards, seconded by Councilman Ross, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Joshua Y. Horton to sign the 2004 Community Development Block Grant between the
Town of Southold and the County of Suffolk, subject to the approval of the Town Attorney.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#398
Moved by Councilman Ross, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the bid of Emcar~ Inc,
334 Windsor Avenue~ Brightwaters~ NY 11718~ in the amount of $164~900~ for the renovations of
the Laurel School, as part of the Family Service League Child Day Care Center Project, funded by the
Southold Town Community Development Block Grant Program.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: We are delighted to support this program and anything that continues to
support the education of young children and the ability for working families to get by in this Town.
The Town Board is supportive of and delighted to support.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#399
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Joshua Y. Horton to sign an agreement with Emcar~ Inc. 334 Windsor Avenue~
Brightwaters~ NY~ 11718~ for the renovations of the Laurel School as part of the Family Service
League Child Day Care Project, funded by the Community Development Block Grant Program,
subject to the approval of the Town Attorney.
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Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
#4OO
Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Joshua Y. Horton to sign an Agreement between the Town of Southold and the
Family Service League of Suffolk County for the 2004 Southold Town Youth Services Program,
subject to the approval of the Town Attorney.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#401
Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs the Town
Clerk to advertise for bids for the acquisition of a horizontal yard waste grinder for the Solid Waste
Management District, all in accordance with specifications provided by the Solid Waste Coordinator, subject
to the review and approval of the Town Attorney.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#4O2
Moved by Councilman Edwards, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs the Town
Clerk to advertise for bids for the acquisition of a front-end wheel loader for the Solid Waste
Management District, all in accordance with specifications provided by the Solid Waste
Coordinator, subject to the review and approval of the Town Attorney.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#4O3
Moved by Councilman Ross, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs the Town
Clerk to advertise for bids for the acquisition of a tractor truck for the Solid Waste Management
District, all in accordance with specifications provided by the Solid Waste Coordinator, subject to the review
and approval of the Town Attorney.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#4O4
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
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RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs the Town
Clerk to advertise for bids for the acquisition of a waste-haul trailer for the Solid Waste Management
District, all in accordance with specifications provided by the Solid Waste Coordinator, subject to the review
and approval of the Town Attorney.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#4O5
Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Joshua Y. Horton to execute a Supplemental Contract Agreement for the Multi-
Modal 2000 Pro,ram (MM 2000) relating to $10,000 in funding for the replacement of multiple road
signs on Town roads abutting Route 25, said agreement subject to the approval of the Town Attorney.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#4O6
Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the General Fund
Whole Town 2004 budget as follows:
To:
A. 1010.4.500.800
From:
A. 1010.4.500.200
Vote of the Town Board:
Fee for Service
Non-Employees - Appraisals
$4,250.00
Fee for Service $4,250.00
Non-Employees - Labor Relations
Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
AMENDED by Resolution #440, June 1, 2004
#407
Moved by Councilman Edwards, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Christopher Lappe~ Jr.
to the position of Seasonal Police Officer for the 2004 season at the rate of $14.69 per hour,
effective May 25, 2004.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: We welcome Mr. Lappe back again, ! am sure that the residents in
Greenport will pleased to have Mr. Lappe back for another summer. He seems to be a popular police
officer there.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
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Moved by Councilman Ross, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes Town Clerk
Elizabeth Neville and Records Management Assistant Stacey Norklun to attend the
AIIM/ARMA Long Island Chapter Monthly Meeting at Huntington~ New York for a "Tour of
the Huntington Archives and Records Management Center" on June 2, 2004. All necessary
expenses shall be a legal charge to the Town Clerk 2004 budget A. 1410.4.600.200 & 300.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#4O9
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes Town Clerk
Elizabeth Neville to attend the New York Association of Local Government Records Officers at
Albany, New York, on June 6 - 9, 2004 and all necessary expenses shall be a legal charge to the Town
Clerk 2004 budget A. 1410.4.600.200 & 300.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#410
Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints the following Traffic
Control Officers for the 2004 season at the rate of $11.97 per hour, effective May 27, 2004:
Rory Flatley
Todd Jackson
Jeffrey S. Biggs
Benjamin Brannon
Christian Conroy
David Steele
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#411
Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the Bid of Corazzini
Asphalt~ Inc. for furnishing and placing Bituminous Surface Treatment Liquid Asphalt Grades
RC-250 and MC-250 ("Oil & Sand") within the Town of Southold, all in accordance with the bid
specifications and as follows:
Mainland Fishers Island
Bituminous Surface Treatment - Liquid Asphalt 50% RC-250 & 50% MC-250 with screened sand:
$1.55 per sq. yd. $3.00 per sq. yd.
Schim Mix Asphalt Concrete - Type 5:
$68.00 per ton $95.00 per ton
Fog Coat: Liquid Asphalt - 50% RC-250 & 50% MC-250:
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$1.00 per gallon
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
$1.00 per gallon
Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
#412
Moved by Councilman Edwards, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the Bid of Corazzini
Asphalt~ Inc. for furnishing and placing Bituminous Surface Treatment Liquid Asphalt Grades
RC-250 and MC-250 ("Oil & Sand") within the Town of Southold, all in accordance with the bid
specifications and as follows:
Mainland Fishers Island
Bituminous Surface Treatment - Liquid Asphalt 50% RC-250 & 50% MC-250 with screened sand:
$1.55 per sq. yd. $3.00 per sq. yd.
Schim Mix Asphalt Concrete - Type 5:
$68.00 per ton $95.00 per ton
Fog Coat: Liquid Asphalt - 50% RC-250 & 50% MC-250:
$1.00 per gallon $1.00 per gallon
SUPERVISOR HORTON: I just want to say that I have been observing the Highway Department
make use of this asphalt throughout town over the past couple of weeks and today they were working
at the North Fork Bank or the parking lot behind it that the Town will be making use of and they are
doing a fantastic job and I just really want to applaud their efforts. They are doing a lot of that work in
house.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#413
Moved by Councilman Ross, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the Bid of Corazzini
Asphalt~ Inc. for furnishing and placing Liquid Asphalt Grades RC-250 & MC-250 within the
Town of Southold, all in accordance with the bid specifications and as follows:
Mainland Fishers Island
$2.95 per gallon
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
$3.50 per gallon
Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
#414
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the Bid of Corazzini
Asphalt~ Inc. for furnishing and placing Hot Mix Asphalt Concrete Pavement "Type 5 Shim"
Sand Mix Asphalt within the Town of Southold, all in accordance with the bid specifications and as
follows:
Mainland Fishers Island
0-300 Tons: $90.00 per ton $150.00 per ton
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300-500 $64.00 per ton
500-1000 $50.00 per ton
Over 1000 $49.00 per ton
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
$90.00 per ton
$78.00 per ton
$77.00 per ton
Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
#415
Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the Bid of Corazzini
Brothers~ Inc. for furnishin~ and placin~ Hot Mix Asphalt Concrete Pavement "Type 6 Top"
within the Town of Southold, all in accordance with the bid specifications, and as follows:
Mainland Fishers Island
0-300 Tons:
300-500
500-1000
Over 1000
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
$71.00 per ton $110.00 per ton
$60.00 per ton $90.00 per ton
$49.00 per ton $85.00 per ton
$47.96 per ton $80.00 per ton
Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
#416
Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the Bid of Corazzini
Asphalt~ Inc. for furnishin~ and placin~ Bituminous Surface Treatment RX-250 Liquid Asphalt
"Oil & Recycled Stone" within the Town of Southold, all in accordance with the bid specifications,
and as follows:
Bituminous Surface Treatment - Liquid Asphalt
Grade RC-250 & recycled Stone:
Schim Mix Asphalt Concrete - Type 5:
Fog Coat: RC-250 Liquid Asphalt:
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
$1.04 per sq. yd.
$65.00 per ton
$1.00 per gallon
Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
#417
Moved by Councilman Edwards, seconded by Councilman Ross, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the Bid of Thomas H.
Gannon & Sons~ Inc. for the application of Polymer Modified Emulsified Asphalt Pavement~
Type II Micro-Surfacin~ within the Town of Southold, all in accordance with the bid specifications,
and as follows:
Type "II" Micro-Surfacing $1.27 per sq. yd.
Truing & Leveling (Type 5 - Shim) $85.00 per ton
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
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#418
Moved by Councilman Ross, seconded by Councilman Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the Bid of Thomas H.
Gannon & Sons~ Inc. for the furnishing and placing of Nova Chip Ultra-Thin Surfacing Course
at $5.65 per square yard, within the Town of Southold, all in accordance with the bid specifications.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#419
TABLED
#42O
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Wickham, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs the Town
Clerk to advertise for a Fishers Island member of the Architectural Review Committee.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
#421
Moved by Councilman Wickham, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold retains Ed Reale~ Esq. on an hourly
basis {$175.00/hour for 3-4 hours} relating to review of affordable housing legislation.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#422
Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby adopts the bond estimate dated
May 12~ 2004 in the amount of $26~075.00 together with an administrative fee in the amount of
$1564.50 regarding the proposed Major Subdivision at Mill Creek Preserve.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
#423
Moved by Councilman Edwards, seconded by Councilman Romanelli, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby finds that the proposed Local Law
entitled "A Local Law in Relation to the Town of Southold Workforce Housing Fund" is
classified as a Type II Action pursuant to SEQRA Rules and Regulations~ 6 NYCRR Section
617.5~ and is not subiect to review under SEQRA.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
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This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Ross, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board meeting be and hereby is declared recessed in order to hold a public
hearing on the matter of HEARING ON "A LOCAL LAW IN RELATION TO THE TOWN OF
SOUTHOLD WORKFORCE HOUSING FUND"
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
Meeting reconvened at
SUPERVISOR HORTON: ! think we have to address three small changes on the first point: No
individual family who purchases the home from the fund may sell their home for a profit within the
first five years, we should make that consistent with the direction we are going with the AHD and
eliminate that. Strike that. And under income eligible, individual families; the third sentence down
where it says meeting income for the County of Suffolk, we should have 'as determined by the Town
Board by resolution.'
TOWN ATTORNEY FINNEGAN: Correct.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: In addition to that. So that will be read into the record and those changes
will be made to this version.
TOWN ATTORNEY FINNEGAN: Also, in section 98-5A7 the same change as reflected in the
findings section, with regard to no profit realized during the first five years.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Okay and one other small change ! would like to offer to the Board, came
to me from a member of the Planning Board and that is Bill Cremers, who - and it is very minor and
fairly inconsequential - but ! think it is also large in some aspect and that is the name of the fund being
Southold Town Workforce Housing Fund, take the term Workforce out of that because in essence, it is
a housing fund and that will reach every aspect of our community, age wise. Age inclusive, senior
citizens and people who are still young working families.
#424
Moved by Councilman Romanelli, seconded by Councilman Wickham,
WHEREAS there was presented to the Town Board of the Town of Southold, Suffolk County, New
York, on the 20th day of April, 2004 a Local Law entitled "A Local Law in Relation to the Town of
Southold Housing Fund" and
WHEREAS the Town Board of the Town of Southold held a public hearing on the aforesaid Local
Law at which time all interested persons were heard, now therefor be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby enacts the following Local Law:
A Local Law entitled "A Local Law in Relation to the Town of Southold Housing Fund" reads as
follows:
LOCAL LAW NO. 12 of 2004
BE IT ENACTED, by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
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Section I- Town Code Amended
The Town Code of the Town of Southold is hereby amended by adding a new Chapter 98 to read as
follows:
Chapter 98. Town of Southold Housing Fund.
{}98-1. Purpose.
The Town of Southold Housing Fund will provide the Town with a mechanism to obtain
funding and create programs that will increase housing opportunities for families and individuals who
are residents of the Town of Southold and/or employed in the Town of Southold who cannot procure
affordable housing within the Town.
{}98-2. Findings.
The lack of affordable housing creates many adverse effects for the town. Regional employers
grapple with the task of hiring and retaining employees due to the limited availability of affordable
housing. Recruiting and retaining essential personnel (police officers, firefighters, teachers, nurses,
etc.) has become increasingly a challenge due to the lack of affordable housing. Volunteer emergency
services are also impacted by the lack of affordable housing, prompting the possible necessity of
replacing volunteer services with paid employees. While the Town has benefited from increased
tourism and second homeownership, it must also sustain a population who can afford to live and work
in Town.
To address this housing shortage, the Town of Southold must create a myriad of housing initiatives
that reinvest in the lives of residents who live and/or work in the Town. The talented and vibrant
energy that was and is invested in community land preservation must be replicated to create affordable
housing for a sizable number of residents who lack the financial means to rent and/or purchase housing
within the Town.
The priority population for community housing will be as follows:
· Income eligible individuals/families who live and work in the Town of Southold who provide
volunteer emergency/life saving services for residents of the Town
· Income eligible individuals/families who live and work in the Town of Southold
· Income eligible individuals/families who live in the Town of Southold
· Income eligible individuals/families who work in the Town of Southold
· Income eligible individuals/families who previously lived in the Town and wish to return
Efforts in the past to create affordable housing have failed in their ability to keep the housing stock
affordable upon resale. Therefore, to promote perpetual affordability within the Town, all recipients of
said housing will be legally bound to sell their properties to the Town's Housing Fund. Resale price
formulas for homes purchased from the Fund will be as follows:
· Homes sold after purchase will realize profits that are the equivalent percentage of the
Consumer Price Index (CPI) as compiled by the United States Department of Labor. The
percentage will be calculated from the date of sale from the Fund to the date of resale to the
Fund. In addition, the Fund will compensate the seller for major capital improvements that are
improved in advance by the Housing Advisory Commission. Depreciation may be applied to
capital improvements.
{}98-3. Definitions.
As used in this section, the following words and terms shall have the following meanings: FUND -- the Town of Southold Housing Fund authorized pursuant to this local law.
INCOME ELIGIBLE INDIVIDUALS/FAMILIES--- those individuals/families whose incomes are
below the designated percentage of the HUD median income for the County of Suffolk, as
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determined by the Southold Town Board. In addition, individuals/families seeking grant assistance
and loans from other public funding sources may be limited to household incomes less than the
HUD median income for the County of Suffolk.
TOWN --the Town of $outhold.
HOUSING -- is defined as housing for households whose incomes are not sufficient, pursuant to
banking industry standards, to induce private lenders to finance the costs of acquisition of a home
with a value at or less than median value as determined by the Town's assessment rolls, without
benefit of subsidies or special financing programs from the Town in the case of owner-occupied
housing, or in the case of rental housing, as housing for households whose income is insufficient to
pay the monthly costs for such housing and maintain such costs within the required percentages of
the household's income based upon banking industry standards.
{}98-4. Fund Established.
A. The Town Board hereby establishes a Housing Fund. Deposits into the fund may include
revenues of the Town from whatever source, including but not limited to:
(1) all revenues from a bond approved pursuant to the local finance law for the
purpose increasing affordable community housing opportunities;
(2) general fund balances, or surpluses, in accordance with the Town's surplus
policy;
(3) any proceeds received by the local government from the sale or rental of
community housing produced from revenues of the fund;
(4) the repayment of any loans issued from proceeds of the fund;
(5) any gifts of interests in land or funds;
(6) any county, state or federal grants received by the town for providing
community housing;
(7) any future applicable transfer tax which may be enacted subsequent to the
enactment of this legislation;
(8) recaptured funds from previous town housing initiatives.
B. Interest accrued by monies deposited into the fund shall be credited to the fund. In no event
shall monies deposited into the fund be transferred to any other account.
C. Nothing contained in this section shall be construed to prevent the financing in whole or in part,
pursuant to the local finance law, of any project or purpose authorized pursuant to this chapter.
Monies from the fund may be utilized to repay indebtedness or obligations incurred pursuant to
the local finance law consistent with effectuating the purposes of this chapter.
D. No interest or right in real property shall be acquired pursuant to this chapter until a public
hearing has been held before the Town Board, and a resolution has been passed approving the
acquisition. However, nothing shall prevent the Town Board from entering into a conditional
purchase agreement before a public hearing is held.
E. No expenditure shall be made pursuant to this chapter until a public hearing has been held
before the Town Board, and a resolution has been passed approving the expenditure.
F. Any acquisition or expenditure made pursuant to this chapter shall include a finding that it is
being authorized in furtherance of the goals set forth in this chapter.
{}98-5. Purposes of the Fund.
A. The proceeds of the fund established pursuant to {}98-4 shall be utilized in accordance with law
for the following purposes:
(1) the provision of no-interest or low-interest loans to income eligible residents
who work and/or live in the Town for the purchase of a first home;
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(2) the actual production of community housing for sale and resale to income
eligible residents who work and/or live the Town;
(3) the actual production of community housing for sale to income eligible
residents who work and/or live in the Town in conjunction with other
public/private partnerships such as the North Fork Housing Alliance and the
Community Land Trust of Southold who agree with the stated priority
population and income eligibility guidelines;
(4) the actual production and maintenance of rental housing for rent to income
eligible residents who work and or live in the Town or in conjunction with
public/private partnerships who agree with the stated profit guidelines;
(5) the rehabilitation of existing buildings and structures in the Town for the
purpose of conversion to community housing for sale or rental to income
eligible residents who work and/or live in the Town;
(6) the provision of housing counseling services by not-for-profit corporations that
are authorized by the U. S. Department of Housing and Urban Development to
provide said services;
(7) the fund will ensure the perpetual affordability of housing through determining
resale prices of any home purchased through the fund. This will be
accomplished through the following: the Town of Southold reserves the right
to require that all housing units purchased through the fund remain affordable
in perpetuity. All properties purchased through the fund must be sold back to
the fund for resale to income eligible individuals/families who meet the
qualifications of defined priority populations. After purchase, homes may be
resold to the fund to potentially realize a profit. Sale prices will be calculated
at the original purchase price (base price) and shall be adjusted by a
percentage which is the same as the percentage by which the Consumer Price
Index (CPI) increased between the date that the buyer took title to the property
and the date that a letter of intent is submitted to the fund to resell the
property. Costs for capital improvements approved by the fund's regulations
may also be compensated. Capital improvements are additions that provide
value to the property above and beyond repairs to maintain the property in
good condition. The Housing Advisory Commission must approve in advance
all capital improvements. The Commission must be given information
regarding the scope of work and estimate of capital costs. If capital
improvements are approved, the Commission will determine if the capital
improvement may be recouped in the event of resale.
(8) The Housing Fund will strive to build housing and sell housing that reflects
the diverse needs of those seeking affordable housing that includes household
income, bedroom size, etc.
For the purposes of this Chapter, eligible expenses relating to the production of community
housing and the rehabilitation of existing housing stock and structures under the fund shall
include but not be limited to land acquisition, planning, engineering, construction costs and
other hard and soft costs associated with construction, rehabilitation, purchase or rental of
housing pursuant to this section provided that these costs do not exceed 15% of the projected
project costs. Litigation expenses may not be covered by this fund. All revenues received by
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the town from the sale or rental of community homes or the repayment of loans shall be
deposited in this fund.
{}98-6 Housing Advisory Commission Established.
A. The Town Board hereby formally establishes a Housing Advisory Commission to review and
make recommendations regarding the Town of Southold Housing Fund. This Commission
would supplant the efforts of the former "Affordable Housing Committee" that no longer meets
as a working group. This Board will consist often (10) residents of the Town who shall serve
without compensation. No member of the Town Board shall serve on the Commission. The
Commission shall reflect a diverse membership with individuals from various geographic
locations. In addition, membership will include a broad representation from the community such
as landowners, persons with skill and knowledge about the environment, real estate, banking,
building and farming. The Commission may also seek members who were/are recipients of
housing assistance.
B. The Special Projects Coordinator for affordable housing will assist the Commission with
administrative tasks such as scheduling meetings, transcribing minutes, etc. The Commission
should meet at a minimum of once a month. The primary function of the Commission is to:
(1) Ensure that an efficient, cost effective and expedient production of affordable
housing is created and maintained.
(2) Serve as a liaison for community members within their respective
hamlets/villages regarding affordable housing
(3) Identify appropriate sites for the development of affordable housing within
respective hamlets/villages
(4) Approve capital improvement requests from residents living in housing units
(5) Make recommendations to the Town Board relating to affordable housing
C. The Housing Advisory Commission shall assist the Town Board in the development of a"
Housing Implementation Plan".
The Housing Implementation Plan.
(1) Public Investment. To account for and minimize social, economic, cultural and
environmental costs of new development, including infrastructure costs and loss of open
space and agricultural land.
(2) Development. To encourage development in areas where infrastructure exists (i.e.
parking, public water, etc.), primarily within defined hamlet and halo zones.
(3) Conservation. To protect, preserve and enhance the Town's natural resources including
farmland, forests, surface water, groundwater, recreation and open space.
(4) Coordination. To promote coordination of state and local governments to facilitate
cooperative agreements amongst adjacent communities in the interest of ensuring
compatibility of community development.
(5) Community design. To strengthen communities through the utilization of all income and
age groups, mixed land use, compact development, open space districts, planned unit
development, and diverse and community housing in close proximity to places of
employment, transportation, recreation and commercial development.
(6) Consistency. To insure predictability in building and land use codes.
(7) Community collaboration. To encourage a collaborative community-based effort for
implementation of community housing that includes long term land use.
D. Such plan may include the creation of maps that define the Housing Implementation Plan's
recommendations proposed by the Town.
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E. The plan will not be adopted until after the Town Board has held a public hearing. The plan
shall be updated at least every five years. The plan shall be adopted before monies may be
expended from the fund.
F. The Housing Implementation Plan shall also assist with guidance in establishing income and
other eligibility requirements for community housing, including any eligibility preference that
may be given based upon residency or other criteria (e.g. those persons who provide volunteer
emergency/life saving services for residents of the Town). The sale and resale of community
housing to the general public for other than income eligible priority populations is prohibited.
Section II. - Severability.
If any clause, sentence, paragraph, section or part of this article shall be adjudged by any court of
competent jurisdiction to be invalid, such judgment shall not affect, impair or invalidate the remainder
thereof but shall be confined in its operation to the clause, sentence, paragraph, section or part thereof
directly involved in the controversy in which such judgment shall have been rendered.
Section III - Effective Date:
This article shall take effect immediately upon filing with the Secretary of State as provided by law.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: This will be a roll call vote. Prior to going to a vote, I offer the
opportunity for discussion from the Town Board.
COUNCILMAN EDWARDS: I would like to say a few words about this piece of legislation. To me
it is the Town Board keeping a promise to this community. This fund lays a permanent fiscal
foundation, structure - I should say, for an affordable housing program. It is not a one shot program, it
is an ongoing commitment to the future. If we do nothing in the face of the crisis we do face, we will
lose the town as we know it. I am proud and delighted to vote yes.
COUNCILMAN ROSS: I also, am looking forward to our continuing efforts to address this issue, it is
a massive issue and a difficult issue and I am happy to be serving with these Board members who are
tackling it head on. I vote yes.
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: Yes, and I would just like to thank this Board too, for hitting this
issue head on, hitting the AHD zone change, code change on. It has been a pleasure working on these
subjects with this Board. And I vote yes on this.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: I am also going to point out Philip Belz did a tremendous job researching
this legislation and bringing it to the Town Board. Tanya, thank you for your help. Reverend Clements
and Reverend DeArmitt, thank you for your guidance and we look forward to working with you. And
actually Melanie and Mr. Blum, I appreciate your input and I want you to know I am listening to it
carefully and your questions are all good questions, of which I don't always have the sharp answer to
but you seem to be able to craft questions in such a quick manner, you sometimes leave me in the dust.
And I mean that in all sincerity. And I appreciate them and the Town Planning Department was
instrumental in this and I also want to thank, he was a Supervisor - he is now a Legislator, Jay
Schneiderman from East Hampton for providing some input and guidance in this. And thank you for
coming out for this public hearing and voicing many of the pros and cons that have to be looked at and
John, back in October, I don't think many people would have bet that you and I would be working on
this issue so well together and I take my hat off to you.
COUNCILMAN ROMANELLI: It has been a pleasure, same here.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: And the entire Town Board, so yes.
Vote of the Town Board: Aye: Councilman Edwards, Councilman Ross, Councilman Wickham,
Councilman Romanelli, Justice Evans, Supervisor Horton.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
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SUPERVISOR HORTON: This brings us to the portion of the meeting were we offer the floor to the
public for general town business that you would like to address the Board on. Yes, Mrs. Wolf.
DOROTHY WOLF: I really don't want to do this, there has been very good feelings tonight and I
don't want to take that away except that what I want to say tonight reflects to some degree on what's
happened here tonight. Good people have come before this Board and have talked to you and
expressed their points of view and I just hope that you heard them because the sense that there is, is
that people do come before the Board and talk and express, you seem to indicate that you want input
but the reality seems to be that you have your minds made up way, way ahead of what we are trying to
get across to you. And nowhere for me is that more obvious than what happened last time that I
addressed the Board. This has to do with North Fork Animal League and I hope that I can get past this
because nothing is more important to me than positive things. Like housing and a new shelter and
things that make this community exciting. But there are things that I have to get off my chest because
I felt to some degree I was abused at the last meeting. I came here, last meeting, and I asked you,
please, do not give the North Fork Animal League a four year contract and it was part of the
resolutions that you were going to pass and I searched through some of my papers in throwing things
away but I didn't throw this away. I will share the letter but I have marked it up. This is a letter from
the North Fork Animal Welfare League, which was sent to you, Supervisor Horton and it was dated
January, way back in January and it was written to you and it says that, "the following was agreed
upon" and I am not going to read the whole letter because of the time but I will share it with anyone
who wants to read it and it has a part A and a part B. Part A is the contract and part B is the Troxel
matter, and I will refer to that very, very briefly but first the contract. You had, in January, your mind
was made up because it says very clearly, the Town intends to continue the contract with the League
indefinitely to provide these services of renewal contract for the no less than four years. So here I am
standing here and others are standing here and we are saying, please give this some consideration but
the deed was done and we should, tell me if I am wrong?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Well, I don't want to tell you that you are wrong but I want to tell you is
that, that letter I think you are referring to which I am not quite sure...
MRS. WOLF: My husband gave it to everybody on the Board.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Right, that is fine. That was the League's version of what was agreed to
and the Town Board didn't necessarily agree with all components of that letter.
MRS. WOLF: But it happened. You gave them a four year contract.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: We did, which was negotiated. Which was negotiated and Councilman
Ross did a fantastic job negotiating that. But in regard to what the League's version of what was
agreed to in regard to the Troxel matter, is not at all what the Town Board felt was accurate.
MRS. WOLF: I will just touch on the Troxel very, very briefly because it was in the paper, it is not a
secret. The bottom of the letter, you, when Frank Carlin and others and I, myself, have asked you to
appoint an oversight committee ....
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SUPERVISOR HORTON: If! could speak to that, very quickly because there is something that ! want
to say to you, is that since the last meeting and you brought that up again, ! have given that more
thought and ! have spoken with Mr. Morelli who is somebody that ! think is another good person to
speak to in regard to these matters and ! have spoken to members of the Town Board,
MRS. WOLF: ! couldn't agree with you more.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: And Councilman Edwards is going to work with Mr. Morelli in designing
a concept for an oversight committee and he is going to bring that concept to the Town Board at the
next meeting.
MRS. WOLF: Well, that, I am not quite sure I understand why, I thought Mr. Morelli's role as the one
who was heading the Raynor Foundation was to attempt to fundraise through this community to raise
money.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Yes.
MRS. WOLF: I don't see what this has to do with ....
SUPERVISOR HORTON: ! say that because he made some very clear ideas and so ! think what we
are going to do is reach out to him and see what his ideas were and if those make sense for moving
forward, perhaps incorporate some of those ideas into an oversight Committee.
MRS. WOLF: ! find that, ! just find that somewhat suspect and ! can't understand...
SUPERVISOR HORTON: It is taking your suggestion to the next level.
MRS. WOLF: ! would love to be part of it, ! will be very good.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Well, perhaps Mr. Edwards will reach out to you.
MRS. WOLF: Fine, thank you. Because at the bottom of the letter it says, well at this point ! will just
share it with you, "I was extremely pleased that you, Supervisor Horton, stated so unequivocally that
you will not tolerate any interference in the internal affairs of the League by your colleagues on the
Town Board" Now, that wouldn't have been written by the League if they didn't have some kind of an
understanding that they were going to be left alone, that they were going to do their thing.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: No, it was, it was in reaction to past experiences of Town Board members
being involved with League elections, which ! personally felt was inappropriate and ! think the Town
Board as a whole felt the same.
MRS. WOLF: Well, let me just read this very quickly from the local newspaper. "Dorothy Wolf of
Southold asked whether the Town had investigated or received a breakdown on how NFAWL had
spent an estimated $200,000 in legal fees" and that fee, that is growing. The end of it says, "What they
do internally is not our concern, as long as they fulfill the contract" and that is what you said last week.
It kind of leaves a very bad taste in my mouth, that anyone of us comes before the Town Board and we
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give you the best that is in us, but it appears that maybe you are not listening, that you know, there is
nobody home up there and that is very distressing and ! would be hopeful that that would change, that
you really do hear what we are saying. There is a perception that those of us that are banging away at
NFAWL have a grudge, have an axe to grind but there are some very good people out there that are
very suspect and very suspicious and this town, and ! hope that this is a television show ! hope is seen
all of Southold the next couple of nights, but on the Troxel matter we know from the newspaper and of
course, ! am aware of what is going on, the Troxel estate gave NFAWL $300,000 but all of a sudden
they changed their mind and they said, no way, we will give it to the Seeing Eye dogs, we will give it
to Kent but there is no way we are going to let NFAWL get their hands on that kind of money and
there is a rumor going through town that even Raynor wants their money back or may consider taking
their money back. There are some very, very good people, responsible people out there who are very
suspect about NFAWL and ! think to just blindly, ! don't know if you have seen the movie of the
Magdalene sisters, it is what happens when a government says to an agency, 'here is your money, do
whatever you want, don't confuse me with the facts, just adhere to the printed contract' and so what
you get is mismanagement, you get abuse and you get stealing. We are talking about a lot of money
and you have an obligation to oversee, you have an obligation to look to NFAWL and if they don't like
it, there are lots of other ways that Shelter can be run. ! am very worried about how they will run a
$2,000,000 shelter, with an excellent, ! find no fault with the director of the Shelter, one assistant and a
couple of old people who walk the dogs and volunteers when they come and go. It is a $2,000,000
shelter and ! want to tell, be very wary, their attorney is one very cagey lady. She is making out like a
bandit, her $200,000 is growing by leaps and bounds. And you are going to be swallowed, we are all
human, you will be eaten. You will be shark food. ! really do think, ! have always been very
respectful of this Board. ! have been very polite, ! don't point fingers and ! respect each and every one
of you but ! do think you have, we have the impression that you do not hear us or if you are hearing,
ain't nobody listening. And ! find that very disheartening, and ! hope that will change because there
are good things that you have on your plate and there is a very positive feeling in the community. This
is the negative and it is going to bite us all in the rear-end, particularly you. And ! thank you for
hearing me.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Thank you, Mrs. Wolf. Would anyone else care to address the Board on
town business? Yes, Mr. Geiss.
GUNTHER GEISS: Gunther Geiss from Southold. ! have a prepared statement for Mrs. Neville's
convenience and hopefully for the reflection of the Board members. Following Ms. Wolf, ! too am
concerned and ! said that last Board meeting as to how well the public is heard and ! am taking the
time to do this tonight only because of the press of what ! believe is a meeting that you will have
tomorrow.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: ! am sorry?
MR. GEISS: ! understand that there is a meeting scheduled with Pamela Mann, the attorney for
NFAWL to discuss their proposal to discuss their resolution of the Troxel matter. Okay. First off, !
want to say in all honesty, the advocates for a new shelter really do recognize and acknowledge the
number, the magnitude and the complexity of the issues before you. And we have heard a great deal
about one tonight. You know, admittedly the shelter in that context doesn't seem to be such a big deal
but it is for those of us who care about the welfare of the animals. In that context, the purpose of what
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I am doing here is really meant to help you in your preparation for dealing thoughtfully and with full
information with just that one issue; the planning and construction of a new animal shelter. Someone
once said that those who are ignorant of history will be forced to relive it. A little historical
background may avoid Yogi Berra's 'd~jh vu all over again' syndrome. The current leaders of the
North Fork Animal Welfare League have said publicly, 'it would be fiscally irresponsible for the
management of our organization to give any funds toward construction of a town facility.' So you
know where they stand, you know, should they get the Troxel money, it is not going to be a pass
through to the shelter we hope to see. These same leaders participated with for Councilman Moore in
planning a new animal shelter during the spring of 2002. My wife and I, the Morelli's and others were
participants in that. And they worked, in camera, for four months to produce their own low-cost plan
for an animal shelter. It was ultimately kept secret on the false claim that they were being personally
sued, but members of NFAWL who saw the plan, which was developed with Reggie Weile, a local
architect, report it consisted of two factory built wood modules to be joined by an unspecified set of
kennels. All of this for $450,000. WE know that the North Fork Animal Welfare League will present
its proposal to you at a meeting tomorrow, related to this Patricia Toner-Troxel bequest construction
proceeding. Past history suggests we may expect a plan based on the use of pre-fabricated modules
that will afford "mobility" in the event NFAWL no longer operates the new Southold-Raynor Animal
Shelter. What I am suggesting is that given the money, they will build something they can threaten to
take away. We have been thinking about what NFAWL ....
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Mr. Geiss, Mr. Geiss.
MR. GEISS: Yes?
SUPERVISOR HORTON: That is something that the Town will not engage in.
MR. GEISS: Well, I hope so. And that is why I would like to raise a few questions that you might
want to consider before dealing with that proposal. We are thinking about what they can possibly
build with $300,000 and that led to a number of questions. Some of the important ones are these: Will
that NFAWL facility complement the Southold -Raynor Animal Shelter facility and if so, how? If it
duplicates the Town shelter facility, why? If it does not duplicate and NFAWL no longer is the
operator of the Town shelter, can those functions then be provided in the Town shelter? So these are
the concerns that one has when one builds two facilities, presumably on the same piece of property. If
that is their proposal.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: And as I said, again, Mr. Geiss, the Town is not interested in that. So the
whole thing of what you are trying, and I appreciate your point of view, it is just not a direction that the
Town wants to go.
MR. GEISS: Okay. If that is the case, I suspect then that the decision will be made that they are not
eligible to receive the bequest.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: I don't know ....
MR. GEISS: That is up to the court.
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SUPERVISOR HORTON: The court is going to have to make that decision. And the Town got
dragged in to that, the issue of the Troxel matter. You know, that was completely beyond our control.
That money wasn't left to the Town. That money was left to the League or whatever the will says.
What the Town is trying to do, is build an adequate shelter. That is what the Town is trying to do. If
that money can be left to the Town, well that is just wonderful.
MR. GEISS: Well, I am hoping that it is.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: And if it is not, it was never meant to come to us in the first place.
MR. GEISS: Well, that is one point of view. See, our point of view on that is that Mrs. Toner-
Troxel ....
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Well, we weren't named in the will.
MR. GEISS: That is true. That is true.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: And ! will say again, our clear focus and forgive me, perhaps this may
seem as though we are not listening and ! can appreciate that and Dorothy, ! hope you and ! can sit
down and talk about that sometime in the near future, my door is always open; Joan doesn't think so
but it generally is...
MR. GEISS: It is just the barrier gets higher for some people.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Here is the point, my point is that is there a fundraising arm specifically set
up to benefit the construction of a shelter by the Town, yes there is. Do ! want to work with the
Raynor Foundation 150%? Yes, ! do. Can we do it with, you know, if, with all of the, you know, on
everybody' s part and this isn't singling you out or the League or myself because somehow or another,
we are all in this boat together. We have got a shelter to build. If the Raynor Foundation is going to
help us raise funds, then that is just wonderful, let's get out there and do it and we have really gone to
try to get as much input as possible for the construction of a new shelter. That is what it is for the
Town.
MR. GEISS: Good.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Build a new, decent shelter.
MR. GEISS: Good. You know, our interest in this from the beginning, once we learned about the
Toner-Troxel bequest was to see to it that her wishes are honored in the sense that it remain here on the
North Fork.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Okay, well ! am not her lawyer or a member of her personal family.
MR. GEISS: No, ! understand that but one of the key paraphrases in the "if" is, if not, then on the
North Fork.
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SUPERVISOR HORTON: Right and by all means, you should bring that up at the appropriate court
hearing.
MR. GEISS: Right, well, I am not a participant. There is one other thing that I wanted to draw your
attention to because when we raised the issues about the four year contract two weeks ago, one of the
arguments that was given was that by going to a four year contract, one can save money and the
analogy was that if you have a good rental agreement, the longer you can get it, the better off you are.
! went back and did a little back of the envelope calculation, in 1998 the Town paid the League
$121,000 for its services and for those who don't know, the services are limited to dogs because that is
what the state law requires, the cats are their charitable activity. That $121,000 was paid to keep
somewhere between 58 and 72 dogs that year and if you take 60 as an average, it means we paid a little
over $2,000 per dog, per year, to maintain them. The following year, the Town paid $126,000 and
there were at that time, 48 or so dogs on average. The net cost per dog, not the total cost because last
weeks argument was about total cost, so net cost per dog is $2,600.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: What are you ....
MR. GEISS: What ! am saying, when you follow these figures to cut to the chase, last year you gave
them $150,000 and they kept 25 dogs, the price had jumped to $6,000 per dog per year. So what looks
like a 4 % increment in a contract when you look at the service cost, what you are really getting for
your dollar, the costs have skyrocketed, from something like $2,000 per dog per year back in 1998...
SUPERVISOR HORTON: But it is a no-kill facility.
MR. GEISS: It has been that all along and by the way, the biggest drop...
SUPERVISOR HORTON: And there is an enormous pig up there that the newspapers happened to
feature in an article.
MR. GEISS: Well, they say it is no-kill but I want to remind you that the biggest change in this
occurred in 2000 when they euthanized 22 dogs. Their typical euthanization is 5 to 7 a year. That year
they euthanized 22 and their profits began to appear. I think that should be taken into account.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Okay, thank you. Yes, Melanie.
MS. NORDEN: Melanie Norden, Greenport. I would like to say ours is a participatory democracy
and we should thank god for that. And sometimes when some of us, ! agree with Dorothy, step up
here, it is because we do passionately care about issues. ! bought my home five years ago in Greenport
for $140,000 and that was a struggle. Everyone in my neighborhood is retired or semi-retired. My
taxes this year were $4,800. They are really going up. You think about Edna, all the people that live
in my neighborhood. We are not wealthy people. Our houses went up in value but we are committed
to living here just like everybody else who wants a piece of the pie is also committed to living here and
! have seen no sense of community from the tax collector. And so when we talk about the sense of
community, ! know this is not a popular topic, but we are talking about community and how we want
to do something for everybody, the everybody also includes the everybody's like me. And everyone in
my neighborhood. The retired people, senior citizens whose taxes will be greater because their lot
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sizes are larger, because the density issues are different in our neighborhoods and our concerns are
very real and there are many people, maybe not in Orient but certainly in Greenport and Mattituck
whose taxes are high and it is not inconceivable that my taxes will jump $7,500 in the next couple of
years. Now my property has increased enormously, ! bought it for $140,000 just had it appraised for
$499,000. But what difference does it make, ! am not going anyplace, ! am committed to living here
for the rest of my life. ! also don't have a mortgage, ! don't want to take out a mortgage, ! don't want
to borrow against my property. So, my actual economic situation, unless ! am going to earn a lot more
money this year, stays exactly the same. So equitability has to do, across the boards, for the Town
Board, in doing what is right for the entire community. And in this dialogue, what ! have heard a great
deal about affordable housing and its equitability, ! haven't really heard one word about people that are
already living here who may or may not have benefited from this real estate surge. As a matter of fact,
the real estate surge since ! want to live here for the rest of my life is actually a disadvantage to me in
so many ways. The appraisal goes up, my taxes go up and every way across the boards, ! don't care if
! double or triple my money. The place is costing me more to live here just like everybody else. And
so when ! raise these issues, ! like to hear that other part of the argument. ! know that you want a
house and this one wants a house, and that is all great. It took me until ! was age 50 to buy my first
home. And that was a struggle. Now ! have benefited tremendously from this real estate but it is not,
the community also includes everybody like me. So when we are thinking about this dialogue and !
raise these issues, it is not that ! am against affordable housing what ! don't hear is the full range and
temper of what the dialogue means and its impact on an entire community of people. There are, !
mean, what sometimes happens in life is that you create something that is equitable for some group of
people but it turns out to be a negative or inequitable for another group. And ! think you have to look
at this as a much wider issue and address all of those issues. And when the dialogue embraces all of
us, then we will all have a stake in the concept of community.
SUPERVISOR HORTON: Thank you very much. And ! am going to adjourn this meeting.
Egan, you can call me later. The meeting is adjourned.
Mrs.
Elizabeth A. Neville
Southold Town Clerk