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APPEAL BOAED
MEMBERS
Robert W, Gillis~i¢, Jr., Cha~rm~n
Robert Bergen
H~rbe~ Rosenberg
Charles Gre~onis, Jr.
Ser~e Doyen, Jr.
MINUTES
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF APPEALS
November 30, 1961
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Board of App~als
was held 7:30 P.M., Thursday, November 30, 1961 at the Town
Clerk Office, Main Road, Southold, New York.
There were present: Messrs. Robert W. Gillispie,
Chairman~ Robert Bergen, and Herbert Rosenberg.
Absent: Messrs. Charles Grigonis, Jr., and Serge Doyen, Jr.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 422 - 7:30 P.M. ~.D.S.T.)~
upon application of Frederick Bernhardtt 20 Station-Plaza, Great
Neck, New York, a/c BernhardtSs Shore Motel,.Depot Lane~ Cutchogue,
New York~ for a special exception in accordance with the Zoning
Ordinance~ Article III, Section 300~ Subsection 11 for permission
to erect and maintain a directional sign on the premises of Mrs°
Hull S. Chew, southeast side Main Road (Route 25), Laurel, New
York, bounded north by Main Road, east by J. F. Murphy, south by
Old Road - Nawrocki, and west by Shell Oil Co. Fee paid $15..00.
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The Chairman opened the hearing by reading application for
a special exception~ legal notice of hearing and affidavit attest-
ing to its publication in the official newspaper. The letter from
the property o~ner was also read.
THE CHAIRMAN: I understand this sign was erected in September
without a permit and Mr. Bernhardt is fully aware a permit is
necessary for a sign because he was here sometime ago after he
bought the motel and obtained permission from us for the erection
of four signs at various key locations.
Is there anyone present who wishes to speak for this appli-
cation?
(There was no responses)
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anything any member of the Board
wishes to say?
MR. ROSENBERG: This is not a matter of a directional smgn~
it is a great distance from the location of the motel. This sign
has been in violation for over 90 days although a violation has
not been issued°
THE CHAIRMAN: Any other questions?
(There was no response. )
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that the
advertising sign requested was erected about three months ago~
erected in violation of the ordinance and is a continuing violation.
This applicant requested permission to erect four signs on
May 11, 1961~ which requests were granted. These large signs are
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placed strategically at crossroads mn th area where the motel is
located. These sites were selected by the applicant.
The placement of the presen~ sign would not be in harmony with
or promote the general purposes and intent of the Ordinance°
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On motion of Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mro Bergen, it was
RESOLVED that the application of Frederick Bernhardt for a
special exception, Appeal No. 422~ to erect a sign on the property
of Mrs° Hull Chew be denied.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen~ and
Rosenberg.
PUBLIC PIEARING: Appeal No. 423 - 7:45 P.M. (E.S.T.), upon
application of Christian F. Lampe, Peconic Bay Boulevard, Laurel,
New York, for a variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance,
Article III~ Section 303, and 306, for permission to reduce frontage
and setback on a corner lot. Location of property: south side
Peconic Bay Boulevard, Laurel, New York, bounded north by Peconic
Bay Boulevard~ east by H. M. Brush, south by other land of C. F.
Lampe~ and west by L. Plechaviciuso Fee paid $15.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading application for a
variance, legal notice of hearing and affidavit attesting to its
publication in the official newspaper.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application?
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Since there ms some question as to the
necessity of a variance if the right-of-way is included in the
lot, I feel this hearing should be recessed so Mr. Lampe or his
representative can be present.
On motion of Mr. Bergen, seconded by Mr. Rosenberg, it was
RESOLVED that hearing upon Appeal No° 423, application of
Christian Fo Lampe~ be recessed until 7:30 P.M., Thursday,
December 14, 1961.
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Vote of the Board:
Mr. Rosenberg.
Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, and
The minutes of the meeting of November 16, 1961 on motion of
Mr, Gillispie, seconded by Mro Rosenberg~ were approved as submitted.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, and
Mr. Rosenberg.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 424 - 8:15 P.M. (E.S.T.), upon
application of Frank S. Thorp~ Gardiners BayEstates, East Marion,
New York~ for a variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance~
Article tII~ Section 303, Article X~ Section 1000A~ and Section
280A of the New York State Town Law, for permission to reduCe
frontage and recognition of access. Location of property: south
side private road known as South Lane, east of Gardiners Bay
Estates, East Marion, New York~ bounded north by South Lane, east
by L. G. Edwards, south by Gardiners Bay, and west by other land
of F. S. Thorp. Fee paid $15o00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading application for
a variance, legal notice of hearing and affidavit attesting to its
publication in the official newspaper.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there an~@ne present who wishes to speak
for this application?
MR. FRANK S. THORP; Other pieces of property in the area are
of similar frontage. This adjoins Gardiners Bay Estates and all
of the other places along in the area are 50 ft. I am requesting
70 ft. frontage. My own lot is 80 ft~ The access is in there
because this is a private lane and has been there since 1950.
I now have an opportunity to sell the lot in question.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this applicationZ
(There was no response.)
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After investigation and inspection the Board of Appeals finds
that this application to set off a lot 70 ft. by approximately 210
ft. conforms to nearly all other lots in this subdivision which
adjoins a subdivision excepted from the standards set forth in the
Ordinance.
This lot is part of a parcel which was laid out to comply with
the other water front lots adjoining and it would be an unnecessary
hardship to require that two parcels be classed as one lot when all
others in the immediate vicinity have been accepted as 70 ft. frontage
or less. The area of this lot is approximately 14~839 sq. ft.
On motion of Mr. Gitlispie, seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED that Frank S. Thorp be granted permission to reduce
frontage of his lot on the south side South Lane, East Marion, and
recognition of access to th~ lot.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, and Mr.
Rosenberg.
PUBLIC HEARING: 8:45 P.M. (E.S.T.), upon motion of the Board
of Appeals for a rehearing upon Appeal NOo 411 of Frank E. Horn,
Island View Lane, Arshamomaque~ New York, for a variance in accord-
ance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article III~ Section 303 for permission
to reduce area of lot located on the east side private road off
Island View Lane, Arshamomaque, New York° Property bounded north
by Martocci~ east by Peconic Bay, south by other land of F. E. Horn~
and west by private right-of-way. Fee paid $15o00.
The chairma~ opened the hearing by reading request for a re-
hearing~ legal notice of hearing~ affidavit attesting to its publica-
tion in the official newspaper, previous applicatinn and action of
the Board on Appeal No. 411o
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application?
MI{. FRAN~ E. HORN: I think I am right in the request this
lot cannot be increased.
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THE CHAIRMAN: That is agreed, if in your deeds you gave them
a certain footage on the beach and that frontage adjoins the lots
you certainly cannot sell of the footage. However~ could you se~l
this area to someone else? Does it make a difference who ow~s it?
MR. HORN: No, that is a permanent thing.
THE CHAIRMAN: Then you could enlarge the lot by selling a
portion of the beach area subject to what the deeds and the title
policy say.
MR. HORN: Yes~ but would that be practical?
THE CHAIRMAN: If this lot is actually smaller than it was set
off in May 1959, as shown on the map supplied at the 1959 hearing~
then the only way out of it is to make it larger.
MR. HORN: That i cannot understand. It is not any smaller than
what had been set off. What was there has always been there.
THE CHAIRMAN: The land has not changed any has it?
MR. HORN: No.
THE CHAIRMAN: The decision in May 1959 was based on the informa-
tion supplied and sworn to by you and we went over that very carefully
zn relation to this°
MR. HORN: That map is a map that was copied from a map I gave
to Howard Terry and Mr. Martocchia. That ~s a copy of the original
survey that was given to me when I bought the property originally.
It is obsolete.
THE CHAIRNAN: Howevers that was the map that was supplied and
was used at the hearing.
MR. ROSENBERG: At the time the variance in 1959 was granted
for the Martoccia house you used that map and you were here and the
variance was granted with your understanding that the lot which was
shown on the map was the lot which was to be left. In the 1961 hearing
you were asked if this was the map which was used and why iR it you
never told us that you could not keep this as a building lot because
you had given people a right-of-way over it. The first time we heard
of it was at the informal hearing. Was there some reason why you did
not tell us?
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MR. HORN: No, I don't know° The only reason I can give is
that I thought it was generally understood° I probably had no
r~ght to feel that way.
MR. ROSENBERG: Why don:t you seal this lot the way you want
to along with some of the area deeded to the other people as a parking
space. The man does not have to have anything to do with that area
but it is in his deed and he has a legal size lot.
THE CHAIPdWAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no response.)
THE CPIAIRMAN: I have a telegram in opposition from Mro Martin
Ao Heffernan~ Island View Lane~ Arshamomaque~ which reads as follows:
"This telegram is in reference to hearing 8:45'P.M. today on Appeal
$411 of Frank Eo Horn. I appeared at original hearing and protested
claim that property in question is surrounded by summer cottages.
My property is adjacent west boundary and is two story year round
dwelling with considerably higher assessment. Three neighboring
houses now on previously owned Horn property occupy less than two
legal lots. I believe adding a fourth house defeats letter and
spirit of Zoning Ordinance to avoid congestion. Promote safety and
maintain property values in what We feel is one of the scenic areas
of Southold Townsh~po /s/ Martin A. Heffernan, Island View Lane,
Arshamomaque, New York."
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anything further ?
(There was no response.)
This re-hearing was held at the request of the applicant who
based his request upon information which he had failed to present
at the October 5, 1961 hearing.
As a result of investigation and inspection and considering
the new information presented by the applicant the Board finds no
unnecessary hardship or practical difficulty present.
This lot was set off on May 28, 1959 at the request of the
applicant. It complied with the requirements of the Ordinance. The
new information presented at this re-hearing was withheld from the
Board at a hearing held May 28, 1959 and at a hearing held October 5,
1961. The new information consists of rights-of-way over parts of
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this lot given purchasers of cottages distant from the site.
The applicant further claimed that the map used by him at
hearings in 1959 andagain in 1961 was not a true map and he did
not intend that the area shown on the map would be the lot set off.
The applicant now wishes to reduce the 13,000 sq. foot lot set off
in 1959 to approximately 8~500 Sqo feet. He contends that the
4~500 sq. feet differential is a parking lot. Actually no more
than 450 Sqo feet is used or ever could have been used for parking.
The applicant-owns considerable land adjoining the lot in
question and there is ample area for a lot which will comply with
the requirements of the ordinance°
On motion of Mr. Gitlispie, seconded by Mr° Bergen, it was
RESOLVED that Mro Frank Eo Horn be denied permission to reduce
area of lot located on the east side private road~off Island ~iew
Lane, Arshamomaque, New York.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, and
Mr. Rosenberg.
The next meeting of the Southold Town Board or-Appeals will be
held 7:30 p.m.~ Thursday~ December 14, 1961 at the Town Clerk Office~
M~in Road, Southold, New York°
Meeting adjourned at i0:00 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
A??ROVED T. Boken,
Secretary