HomeMy WebLinkAbout5355APPEALS BOARD MEMBERS
Lydia A. Tortora, Chairwoman
Gerard P. Goehringer
George Homing
Ruth D. Oliva
Vincent Orlando
BOARD OF APPEALS
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
FINDINGS, DELIBERATIONS AND DETERMINATION
MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 11,2003
Appl. No. 5355 - TOWBEE, LLC
Southold Town Hall
53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971-0959
ZBA Fax (631) 765-9064
Telephone (631) 765-1809
http://southoldtown.northfork.net
RECEIVED
Southokl Town Clerk
Property Location: 700 Hummel Avenue, Southold; CTM #1000-63-2-30.1.
SEQRA DETERMINATION: The Zoning Board of Appeals has visited the property under
consideration in this application and determines that this review falls under the Type II
category of the State's List of Actions, without an adverse effect on the environment if the
project is implemented as planned.
PROPERTY FACTS/DESCRIPTION: The applicant's 74,052 sq. ft. parcel has frontage along
two streets: Hummel Avenue to the north and Boisseau Avenue to the east, in Southold.
The widest frontage of the property along Boisseau Avenue is 156.10 feet, and 639.17 feet
along Hummel Avenue. The westerly lot line runs 105.05 feet deep to the Long Island
Railroad right-of-way. The property and existing buildings are used for warehousing and
storage. The property is zoned Light-Industrial (LI).
BASIS OF APPLICATION: Building Department's February 19, 2002 Notice of Disapproval,
amended March 10, 2003, April 10, 2003, June 18, 2003, and June 19, 2003, citing Sections
100-142, 100-143A and 100-143C, in its denial of a building permit to construct new
buildings with interconnected hallways/additions.
FINDINGS OF FACT
The Zoning Board of Appeals held public hearings on this application on June 19, 2003
and August 7, 2003, at which time written and oral evidence were presented. Based upon
all testimony, documentation, personal inspection of the property, and other evidence, the
Zoning Board finds the following facts to be true and relevant:
AREA VARIANCE RELIEF/ORIGINAL REQUEST: The applicant's original application
requested relief to construct new buildings in this LI Industrial Zone District requesting the
following area variance relief: (a) building area (ref. #3) with rear setbacks between five
feet and eight feet, maximum, from the southerly property line and at least 94'9" from the
front northerly lot line along Hummel Avenue; (b) building area (ref. #1) with a +-60 feet
setback from the front lot line along Hummel Avenue, and 220 ft. of linear frontage on
Youngs Avenue, and (c) building area (ref. #1 and #3) with side yard setback at 5 feet.
AMENDED ADDITIONAL RELIEF: During the June 19, 2003 public hearing, it was
determined that the applicant had not filed an amended Appeal, based upon the June 19,
2003 amended Notice of Disapproval issued by the Building Department relative to the
Building Department's review of construction diagrams. On June 23, 2003, the appeal
application was amended to reflect the additional reason for disapproval by the Building
Department, for additional relief with regard to the third floor level with a proposed 2,000
sq. ft. of floor area for storage of files and certain office-related material, accessible by
elevator. The third-floor attic storage plan was prepared by East End Drafting & Design
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and is dated 5-12-2003. Also, please refer to details shown on the 8-6-2003 site and
drainage plan prepared by East End Drafting & Design regarding proposed additions and
removal of existing buildings.
REASONS FOR BOARD ACTION: On the basis of testimony presented, materials
submitted and personal inspections, the Board makes the following findings:
1. Grant of the relief requested will not produce an undesirable change in the character of
the neighborhood or a detriment to nearby properties.
A. Setbacks for Building (Ref. #1, #2, and #3 and proposed additions to interconnect
buildings #1 and #3 in the future: The existing setbacks facing Hummel Avenue are
substantially nonconforming: (1) the existing warehouse building "E" is +-32 feet to
the northerly front property line and +-17 feet to the existing fence, and (2) the existing
building, proposed to be removed, is closest to Hummel Avenue at +-20 feet. New
building #1 is proposed at 60'3" from the northerly property line and at least 5' from
the southerly property line. Building Ref. #2 is a new 2,546 sq. ft. building, to replace
the existing 70' x 24' wide warehouse building. The existing building is shown with
variable setbacks from the southerly property line between 12'3" and 9'10"; the new
building will maintain or exceed the setbacks of the existing building from the
southerly property line. Building #3 is proposed at a minimum of 94'9" from the
northerly property line, and with variable rear setbacks between 5' and 8', at its closest
points. The existing foundations are not salvageable. Only a small change of footprint
of the existing southerly building would occur.
B. Buildinf:l Frontages: Building (Ref. #1) is proposed with 80 linear feet of building
width/frontage facing Boisseau Avenue. Presently, the entire easterly section of the
property facing Boisseau Avenue is used for outside storage of landscape materials.
The applicant is proposing to eliminate outside storage, and the closest new building
to Boisseau Avenue will be at least 89 feet from the easterly front property line. The
additional building frontages proposed in the future, by small additions,
interconnecting Buildings #1 and #3 are also included in this variance, as shown on the
site and drainage plan prepared by East End Drafting & Design dated 8-6-2003.
C. Third Floor qf Buildina #1: The third floor is proposed as an attic with elevator, for
storage of necessary files and related items.
2. The benefit sought by the applicant cannot be achieved by some method, feasible for
the applicant to pursue, other than an area variance. The property is improved with
existing buildings in nonconforming locations. At least one of the buildings, which is
100% in a nonconforming location, will be removed and not be rebuilt. Outside yard areas
will not be used for open storage, and open parking and landscaped buffer areas will be
added to meet the requirements of the Planning Board under the site plan regulations.
3. The relief granted herein is substantial in relation to the code requirements for building
frontage, and front, rear and/or side yard setbacks. Where the rear yard setback is
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reduced, a front setback increased. Where the building frontage is greater than 60 feet,
existing nonconformities are either removed or reduced. The sizes of the storage
buildings are largely necessary to accommodate their boats indoors, where they can also
be properly outfitted and supplied for their purposes of rescue and salvage operations.
These responses require immediate and easy access despite the time of day or night or
weather conditions.
4. The difficulty was self-created when the new building construction was planned with a
design that will not conform to the current Town Code requirements.
5. There is no evidence that the grant of the relief will have an adverse effect or impact on
physical or environmental conditions in the neighborhood or district, after weighing the
factors which benefit to the applicant as compared to a detriment to the community. The
property is improved with buildings in poor condition, and foundations of which are not
salvageable. There is outside storage of landscape material in several piles on the
southeast section of the property. There are storage of trailers and vehicles, registered
and unregistered, which give an unsightly appearance. The applicant has assured that the
new office building will be state of the art with architectural marvel, even though it is three
stories with occupancy of the first two stories. Buildings #2 and #3 are to be
interconnected as one building for easy inside access from Building #1. These buildings
are to be located contiguous to the LIRR, on the south side of the property. A new office
complex with attached storage buildings and large parking lot to accommodate staff and
customers will be a better utilization of this Light Industrial zoned parcel.
6. Grant of the relief requested is the minimum action necessary and adequate to enable
the applicant to enjoy the benefit of new building areas, while preserving and protecting
the character of the neighborhood and the health, safety and welfare of the community.
RESOLUTION OF THE BOARD: In considering all of the above factors and applying the
balancing test under New York Town Law 267-B, motion was offered by Member
Goehringer, seconded by Member Orlando, and duly carried, to
GRANT the variances as requested, shown on the plans prepared by East End
Drafting & Design dated 5-12-2003, site plan dated 6-12-2003 prepared by Warren
A. Sambach, Jr., and site-drainage map prepared by East End Drafting & Design
dated 8-6-2003, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
1. Major retrofitting and overhauling of boats shall be done inside a building.
2. All communication systems used by staff shall be done within the buildings,
without an outside loud speaker system.
3. Consent be obtained from the owner or authorized authority with regard to
emergency fire access on the south side of the property within or along the
LIRR right-of-way as needed.
4. That designated parking within the site be used for vehicle purposes and not
for any type of storage.
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The three buildings may be connected in the future as shown on the 6-12-2003
site plan prepared by Warren A. Sambach, Sr., P.E., without a supplemental
application to the Board of Appeals.
This action does not authorize or condone any current or future use, setback or other
feature of the subject property that may violate the Zoning Code, other than such uses,
setbacks and other features as are expressly addressed in this action.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Members Tortora (Chairwoman), Goehringer, Orlando, and Oliva.
(Absent was Member Horning.) This Resolution w~as duly~ado~:~ee~4-O~
Lydia A;T,l~tora, Chairwo~nan - Approved for Filing
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7:00 p.m. Appl. No. 5355 -TOWBEE~ LLC (continued from 6/19/03). Amended Request for
Variances under Sections 100-142, 100-143A, and 100-143C, based on the Building
Department's February 19, 2002 Notice of Disapproval, amended June 19, 2003. Applicant
proposes two new buildings in this LI Industrial Zone District with: (a) side yard setbacks
at less than 20 feet, (b) rear yard setbacks at less than 70 feet, (c) building linear frontages
greater than 60 feet along two average of 90 feet from the front lot line, and (d) a portion of
the new construction will be greater than the code limitation of 2-1/2 stories. Location of
Property: 700 Hummel Avenue, Southold; CTM #1000-63-2-30.1.
CHAIRWOMAN: The next heating is on behalf of Towbee. Is there anyone here who would
like to speak on behalf of that application?
ABIGAIL WICKHAM, ESQ: Good evening. Abigail Wickham, for the applicant. We're not
going to repeat everything that we went through last time. But I do want to just refresh the
board's memory because it's been a long time. And you've had a lot of intervening matters that
we are seeking to replace. An existing concrete block building, which is tight on the Hummel
Avenue line with 2 structures and refurbishing ora 3rd existing structure. If you recall, the maps
you had at the last meeting have not changed. I did put in new maps today. I'm sorry they came
in so late. But they are pretty, they are exactly what you looked at before with the exception of
additional information in the way of drainage and that type of thing.
CHAIRWOMAN: There's no change in the placement...
MS. WICKHAM: There's no change in the placement of the setbacks, no. A little more parking
has been provided and a little more detail on the square footage. But there was some confusion
at the last heating as to which were the tight maps. I just want to be sure we were all looking at
the same thing. In any event, the new office building, if you recall is 60x80 sq. f~. office building
of 58 more or less feet from Hummel Avenue. And 70 to 117' from Boisseau Ave. The 2nd new
building is the warehouse, which is 70x40. A single stoW structure with a setback of 5' from the
rear line at the closest point, 7 ½' at the furthest point, and 6.3' from the side yard, which is the
applicant's side yard. The applicant owning the adjoining property. And 5' at the closest point
from the rear yard. The setbacks which are on the Hummel Avenue side, which are
nonconforming to the 100' average setback, are certainly not out of character with what's in the
neighborhood now. If you recall, the building at the western end of the block is right on the line.
And it's a very long building. Our office building on Hummel is an average of 59' from
Hummel. If you average all of the buildings, because it is considered a single structure, it's 85'.
There is no, there is an excess of setback from Boisseau Avenue as it's proposed. That's not a
problem. The setback from Hummel, while it's 59', which is under the standard, is certainly an
improvement over the setback of that ugly, existing, concrete block building, which will be
removed that has a 4' setback. It's also a much nicer looking building, and is certainly much
further away than the buildings in the neighborhood. The old Southold Savings Bank on the
comer near the RR tracks is about 36' back from Youngs. So this is much further setback than
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that. I would like to also mention, as I said, the side yard setback is a significant reduction, but it
does abut the applicants other property. So they are not going to be impacting strangers. And
the rear yard reductions, which are significant are on the RR side, and well within the fence.
And we've discussed fire access and that type of thing. Also, if you recall, it says here on rear
elevation, that would be the elevation facing the RR tracks, there are no buildings, no windows,
proposed. So there will not be an impact on privacy to the extent that 2nd story would overlook
onto the Colonial Village property. So those people will not be worried about people looking
over into their yards. One thing we did not address specifically last time was the 3rd story for
which the Notice of Disapproval was amended. It would, as I understand the code, be
considered an attic, except for the access, which is proposed, which is not only by a stairway, but
also by an elevator. And the reason, well, first of all, the attic space, which is considered a 3ra
floor under the code, is less than half of the actual floor area of that upper floor. It is just under
2000 sq. fi. less whatever area is taken up by the elevator and the stairway. It is going to be
used, and the reason the elevator is going up there is first of all, they have to put an elevator in
there anyway. And they need to do monthly storage and periodic retrieval of records for their
thousands of memberships and reports. They keep th~m seven years. And the access by the
elevator will not only facilitate getting them up and down, but will also assist with handicap
clerical employees that would be able to accommodate that section of the building. It wilt not be
used for office space. The file storage is in sealed, fireproof, locked, files. And that's the only
furniture that would be up there other than maybe a file system of some sort. The appearance of
the building is the same whether it's interior space that's considered a 3~'d story or not. It's just
part of the roof. And we'd like to submit that given the cost of this building, it really would be an
economic hardship to deprive the applicant of the use of this space. It's not a visual impediment.
He has to build a roof over area anyway. And he has to build the elevator anyway. And file
storage in a paper intensive business, as you are undoubtedly well aware, is really critical to a
business. So they would like to be able to access it in a more economic fashion. We had
mentioned briefly, last time, the fact that this business, salvage does sea rescue. And the
coordination with some of the emergency response agencies is quite critical to their business.
They do have a relationship with the Coast Guard. And I submitted a letter fi.om the Coast
Guard indicating that they are working closely with them. They have open discussions with
FEMA in terms of possible use of this facility as some sort of emergency shelter because the
facilities in this town are not what they probably could be. I'm advised that this will be
considered a green building, which means it is environmentally sound. It is to qualify for lead
credits for energy. And Joe can explain to you exactly what it means. But it's supposed to be
built as a very sound, over, a building exceeding usual construction standards. And maybe used
as a model for some future construction standards in areas where emergency shelter is important.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Where would that be done in that building?
MS. WICKHAM: It's in a preliminary discussion at this point. Probably the open area would be
downstairs.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: In the basement?
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You have a couple of floors.
CHAIRWOMAN: Please state your name for the record.
CAPTA1N JOE FROHNHOEFER: Captain Joe Frohnhoefer. The lead credits, by the way, are
leadership and environmental design and engineering. The building is going to be built,
probably to exceed any of the standards, especially in this wind zone. The loading for this wind
zone, as you know, is 120 mph. We are just on the tip from Riverhead out. A lot of people are
having problems with that. We are going to try to show thrum how to solve it. It's going to be a
model building, for environmental design, energy design, we are working with LIPA, we are
working with emergency management, NYS and Suffolk County. We are working with a few
other people. And our communication setup within the building will be a backup facility for a
number of different people. We are looking at redundancy across Shelter Island for our T1 lines.
We are doing the satellite stuff from the building. And I can assure you that the antennas for
those are extremely small. They have changed those, and the engineering of those has changed
tremendously. As you can tell from just the TV dishes, are smaller. These probably will be
smaller than that. There's a lot of things that we're looking at working with the government on.
And we're exceeding, and quite far ahead right now. On the 20th, I will in Houston at Lockheed,
Martin, and Nassau space center. And we are releasing some of our developments down there.
MEMBER GOEHR1NGER: Let me just ask a question, Joe, if you don't mind. If the building is
an office building on the first and second story, for FEMA to utilize this building as a
headquarters, okay, they certainly wouldn't be taking over your area, so you will be utilizing
probably the basement?
MR. FROHNHOEFER: Yes. We would be, the basement is set up for classrooms. We would
be using a combination, our communication system may be taken over. And work with them,
hand in hand.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: I understand. In a real significant emergency.
MEMBER ORLANDO: Based on a disaster, how much they need.
MR. FROHNHOEFER: Based on whatever. We are going to have a generator, 60KW
generator, 200 amps to back us up.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: On natural gas?
MR. FROHNHOEFER: Most likely, that or propane on the RR track side, in the back, hidden.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: And this building is fully sprinklered?
MR. FROHNHOEFER: Doesn't have to be. It's a fireproof building. It has over a 4 or 5 hour
fire rating. Just from the nature of it. It's poured concrete inside the insulated ICS, concrete
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forms. You're talking about an 8" reinforced concrete wall, 5/8's re-rod, horizontal and vertical.
The floors are concrete. There's not a lot in that building that can bum. Just the paper.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Paper on the 3'd story.
MR. FROHNHOEFER: That's about it. And that's in fireproof cabinets. The loading of the
floors, I can tell you, is extreme. We're using h re-rod in the eye beams. The eye beams are
approximately 8", ! think, across, 8 or 9" inches across, top on bottom. We are actually putting
more re-rod into than is called for. The only engineer that's qualified for this is out of up NYS.
And he's coming down to work with us on the actual, finished, product.
MS. WICKHAM: I think the obvious question for the board is why do we need a building that's
that big, which causes the setback reductions. Again, the setback reductions are, we think, on
sides that are not as significant. And we are significantly improving the setback distance from
the residential and Boisseau Avenue side. But in specific answer to that issue, the building was
designed to precisely accommodate the business and represent, really, the minimum space that
they've evaluated as necessary in order to house not only their employees, but their computer and
office equipment. Their technological equipment, radar, sonar, and satellite tracking as well as
the warehousing in the outbuildings for their products, files, and in the 3rd building, #3, some
boat configurations. As a result, they really don't feel they have any feasible alternative. If you
recall other reasons we are here on this many variances is because it is a comer lot. And it is a
narrow lot. So I'd be happy to try and answer any specific questions the board might have. I did,
if I could just, I'm sorry, I forgot to mention, Ms. Oliva last time asked a little bit about the
employee access to the building in terms of staffing levels at various hours of the day. And I
gave you a chart that reflects the fact that this is a while it's a 7 day a week, 24 hour a day
building in terms of employees, the staffing for most of that time is quite minimal. The staffing
during the peak hours is staggered so that employees will not be coming in and leaving at the
same time throughout the day and competing for spaces. So we've spoken twice now, the
Planning Board about parking and we're going to be going back there again. We've presented a
couple ofplans. But the employees have very carefully mapped out what the office space is
designed for.
CHAIRWOMAN: Let's see if anyone in the audience has any questions. Is there anyone in the
audience who would like to speak in favor or against the application? Or who has more
questions about this?
MEMBER GOEHR1NGER: I have more questions.
CHAIRWOMAN: 1 don't see any hands. You have fairly well gone through the variance
aspects both at this hearing and at the prior hearing. Let's see if we have any issues to be
resolved. Do you have another question?
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: I have 2 more questions, just of Captain Joe, if he doesn't mind.
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MR. FROHNHEIFER: Yes sir.
MEMBER GOEHR1NGER: You have indicated to us the certain need for this site and I went
down and inspected the RR area and I think that's certainly adequate enough to really bring in
emergency vehicles and do what has to be done if anything has to be done, god forbid.
Hopefully nothing has to be done. Or an access to that area. The only other concern I have are
the residents that are on Hummel Ave. and anybody that might hear anything from this building.
This is going to be a neighbor-friendly building.
MR. FROHNHOEFER: You're not going to hear a pin drop either inside or out.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: We're not going to have any outside, loud speakers. Everything is
going to be done by individual radio?
MR. FROHNHOEFER: We try to keep it as quiet as we can, and as secure as we can. No. You
don't hear anything now. There's no outside speakers. It's not like Agway where you have the
PA and call the guys in the back. We can hear them. Or over at Burt's, ! mean that's normal for
their business. They are trying to get guys in the yard. We're not working in a yard. We are
working in a concrete building with 13 ½" walls all total. And our rating of R50, which exceeds
anything you can even get with regular insulation. We are going to probably heat it with a
candle and cool it with an ice cube. You're not going to hear anything outside. And as a matter
of fact, inside, it's extremely quiet.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Let's talk about the warehouse buildings. Everything, again, is
done by individual radio to the individual employees.
MR. FROHNHOEFER: We do everything by phone, inside. We have intercoms, intercom
phone system. The phone system alone is $200K.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: So there's not going to be any exterior speakers?
MR. FROHNHOEFER: No, not unless she wants to play music at Christmas.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: 1 had another question, but somehow I forgot it.
CHAIRWOMAN: Ms. Oliva?
MEMBER OLIVA: No, he answered all the questions I had.
CHAIRWOMAN: Mr. Orlando?
MEMBER ORLANDO: A quick one. I think it's a great structure, and i applaud you for
grabbing the tiger by the tail for this project here. Just like I think Jerry tapped on it, I just want
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to make sure. Reservations on the 3rd floor, obviously you're going to have air conditioning up
there, I would guess, maybe, for the files?
MR. FROHNHOEFER: For the entire building because ofthe tightness ofthe building. We
have to have air exchange. So we will be heating by air ducts and hot air enforced cooling air.
All of the air conditioning will be on the backside by the RR track. It will not be heard, it's
extremely quiet.
MEMBER ORLANDO: Because that 3~d floor will heated and cooled just for mold control,
dampness, etc.
MR. FROHNHOEFER: And electronics if we have any electronics up there.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: I have a question. Is there a kitchen in the building?
MR. FROHNHOEFER: There is a break room. That's it. There may be a microwave. We're
not talking about anything else. No sleeping. You can't sleep on duty.
MS. WICKHAM: Just answer a little bit further your question on noise. You recall the 3
buildings are connected internally, so that will minimize outside interference.
MR. FROHNHOEFER: Yes, but they are also separated by steel doors. Fireproofwalkways in-
between.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Knowing Capt. Joe's operation, l would assume if he wanted to
contact someone, then he would either by radio or telephone.
MR. FROHNHOEFER: That's the way we do it. Pagers...
CHAIRWOMAN: Seeing there are no other questions, do you have anything else you'd like to
add?
MR. FROHNHOEFER: I'd just like to, when we get it done, I hope we can get it done, invite
everybody down to take a look. Because it's probably going to be the newest technology around.
And the most leading stuff in the east end. Also it's going to be an example, we have people
from NY coming out to take a look at it because it's that close to being explosion proof. One of
the very interesting things we found, just to give you a heads up, is that with the insulated
concrete forms, and the fact that it's an 8" poured concrete wall with reinforcing, they set off30
pounds of dynamite 30' away from the building. And they found it did no damage whatsoever.
It was absorbed. The impact from the explosion was absorbed by the styrofoam on the blocks.
So it was the closest thing they have right now to an explosion proof building. There's a lot of
people that are very interested.
MEMBER ORLANDO: When's the potential start date?
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MR. FROHNHOEFER: As soon as I get approval.
MEMBER ORLANDO: How long is the project going to take? A year?
MR, FROHNHOEFER: It's not going to take that long. This stuff is like Lego toys. It goes up
pretty quick. The biggest thing is going to be the dry time for the concrete, which goes in at
3,000 pound concrete and dries up to 5,000 pound strength because of the cure time. You've got
a 2 week cure time. Seeing the form itself and it continues to build strength within the next
number of months, I think 6 months, it's up to like 4,800 pounds strength. I was down there
cleaning up and doing exploratory scraping to find out what we had underneath. And because
every place I dig down there I run into a wall no matter where I scoop down and take a shovel.
It's a 24" concrete wall, and I haven't hit the bottom yet. I don't know where it goes. It's deep
and there's a bunch of them. There's 3 or 4 of them. This was the old fertilizer factory years ago.
And that's all cleaned out. But the concrete walls were so thick, that middle building that exists
now, that building, the walls on that are 13 or 14" of poured concrete with 6 abutments inside the
basement. I could set off an explosion down there and nobody would even know it. It's
unbelievable.
CHAIRWOMAN: And it was built that thick?
MR. FROHNHOEFER: It was built that thick and the timbers in the basement of that thing
are...
MEMBER ORLANDO: What's GLF?
MR. FROHNHOEFER: Name of the fertilizer company, a long time ago.
MS. OLIVA: Why would they build that deep? Because of explosions with the fertilizer?
MR. FROHNHOEFER: They used to put the fertilizer in the basements or the buildings, and it
would pick up moister and harden, and they'd take little hard sticks of dynamite to blow it up.
CHAIRWOMAN: I make a motion to close the hearing so we don't have to transcribe all of this.
MS. WICKHAM: There was a point to that historical segway, lfon building #3 they find that
this footing, or foundation is a problem, would you object to putting an alternative provision in
your decision should you grant what we ask for, to move that building #3 up to, you think 3'?
MR. FROHNHOEFER: 1 ½ - 2'.
MS. WICKHAM: Up to 2' further north.
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CHAIRWOMAN: Tell you what, Ms. Wickham, here's what I would like you to do. I'd like you
to just give us a couple of paragraphs, a synopsis, where it would be exactly, 3' to the north, east,
south, west...
MS. WICKHAM: As an alternative should construction determine...
CHAIRWOMAN: Construction should not remove the remains of the fertilizer factory.
MR. FROHNHOEFER: The middle building has a bas~nent. The other does not, strictly a 4'
footing, no. You're only talking about a foot, foot and a half.
CHAIRWOMAN: I'm going to close the heating pending receipt of letter from Ms. Wickham
who will give us the letter by next week, Friday.
PLEASE SEE MINUTES FOR RESOLUTION
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2:02 p.m. TOWBEE, LLC #5355 - Request for a Variance under Section 100-142,
based on the Building Department's February 19, 2002 Notice of Disapproval,
amended April 10, 2003. Applicant proposes two new buildings in this LI Industrial
Zone District with: (a) single side yard setback at less than 20 feet, (b) rear yard
setback at less than 70 feet, and (c) building linear frontage greater than 60 feet for
Building #1, having a front setback at a average of 90 feet. Location of Property:
700 Hummel Avenue, Southoid; CTM #1000-63-2-30.1.
CHAIRWOMAN: Is someone here who would like to speak on behalf of the applicant?
ABIGAIL WICKHAM, ESQ: They pronounce is Towbee. And that's their logo if you
notice on their trucks. It's a little bee that tows things.
BOARD SECRETARY KOWALSKI: Ifl could ask Gail something. The ladies in the
office said someone had dropped offmaps. And you were going to pick them up and
submit them at the hearing today. Do you have it'?
MS. WICKHAM: I have everything.
BOARD SECRETARY KOWALSKI: You have it, okay. I just wanted to be sure.
MS. WICKHAM: Are you ready? Okay. Good afternoon.
CHAIRWOMAN: Just a second. Is there an amended Notice of Disapproval (NOD) on
this?
MS. WICKHAM: The application to you was made based on an amended NOD. It was
amended twice last in April. Yesterday we spoke to Damon at the Building Department
(BD). And I understand he was goin~ to be issuing you another NOD, which I haven't
received yet on the question of the 3r floor. Have you received that yet?
BOARD SECRETARY KOWALSKI: Actually we always require that the applicant or
the agent submit that to the board.
MS. WICKHAM: Okay. I don't have it yet.
BOARD SECRETARY KOWALSKI: It was issued. I believe they did it late yestei-day
afternoon.
MS. WICKHAM: I don't have it yet. I take it you don't have it. I just wanted the board
to be aware that it was coming in. And we're going to have to address that. But it wasn't
part of what was advertised or discussed today. I assume, given the nature of this that
you may need additional information in any event.
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CHAIRWOMAN: Because it will keenly relate to all of the other variances that are
being requested ou the property.
MS. WICKHAM: Although the extent of it, I believe, is uot as great as you might think·
It's only partmlly 3 story. And trying to clariI~ that with the BD now. And it would be
storage fhcility.
BOARD SECRETARY KOWALSKI: Would you like to check, Gall, with the BD.
Or...
CHAIRWOMAN: Why don't we just ask if Linda could go quickly.
MS. WICKHAM: Captain Joe is going to check.
CHAIRWOMAN: I'm sorry to interrupt you, it just was brought to my attention late last
night.
MS. WICKHAM: I wrote you that letter so it wouldn't be in without you knowing what
it was all about, l just wanted the board to be aware.
CHAIRWOMAN: l just wanted to see if we have it here and what the specific wording
of their denial was.
MS. WICKHAM: Would you like me to start with just the rest, because I have a lot of
general information to cover. I think you've all seen the property, you're all familiar
with the property. It was probably located in the LI zone years ago when zoning came in.
Because it's historical use as a lumberyard and a lumber treatment facility. It's obviously
located in a mixed use neighborhood. The predominant zoning on the block is hamlet
business. The use proposed is actually more like what one would expect in a business
zone and office building. Rather than the traditional LI uses. The proposal is for an
attractive, modem, self-contained, single user facility by a local business employing local
people. The primary use is office with accessory warehouse areas tbr equipment and
materials. Attempts have been made to harmonize the appearance with a residential area
opposite Hummel Ave., which until now, has had to endure some rather unattractive
property. I would like to briefly run through the types of uses, which might be
constructive on this property as a contrast to the proposal for an attractive corporate
headquarters for the Seatow operations. LI zones permit, and l'm going to run tttrough
them very quickly, building materials, storage, public warehouses, contractor yards, cold
storage plants, food processing and packaging plants, auto repair shops, machine and
equipment workshops, publishing/printing plants, boat building storage and service,
laundry and dry cleaning plants, conference facilities, public utilities, truck and bus
terminals to name most of them. We have asked East End Drafting to give you a
rendition of what the front east elevation of the building would be like. This is the
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elevation facing Hummel Avenue. This is a more elongated version of the Hummel Ave.
side of thc property, which shows building No. 1. Thc renovated, existing building No.
2, the warehouse, and the proposed building No. 3, which is a storage facility. 1 don't
know if you can see them all from there. And obviously we've got a lot of work to do
with the Architectural Rcview Committee and the Planning Board (PB) on the actual site.
It will be screened. It will be fenced. It will be a self-contained single user facility. 1
just want to tell you, very briefly, a little bit about Seatow. Because 1 was under a
misconception myselt~ They do sea rescue and salvage operations, clean up ofoil spills
and such as that. They do not dispatch their equipment from this site. This is an office
f~acility. It is a facility where they will have some boats but, that need to be outfitted,
that's the reason for building No. 3, so that can be done indoors. Building No. 2 will
contain equipment and material as well. But they have a large communications fhcility
that's very important in coordination with the Coast Guard. They have a l-?anchise
agreement with many operators. And the actual dispatch of the rescue and the salvage
and cleanup facilities are from shore front locations. Not only on the north fi)rk and Long
Island, but actually throughout the country most of whom are by independent operators.
So without any disrespect, I think we could possibly liken them somewhat to AAA, more
than you local fire department where they are running out fi'om the fhcility with a rescue.
So the actual usage on-site will be office usage and a quiet usage. It will be a thcility
because of the communications that will be manned 24 hours a day. But we will have a
staggered shift operation. Most of the employees are there during the day. We've given
the PB that infbnnation. The maximum employees projected on-site during the daytime
are 41 people. And they will arrive at different times during the day so that there will not
be a traffic impact. During the evening and night shifts, there will only be 2-3 and
occasionally maybe l-2 people on the site. And it will be a locked facility so there will
not be a lot of traffic running in and out that is not invited. There are no retail sales on
the property. It's service and office use. I'm sure you have other questions, Cathy and
Joe Frohnhoefer is here today, and Jim Foley with Seatow. I'd just like to go on now ifI
could and address the specific variance items. I'm going to address them in order of
magnitude of the variance requested. That would mean of course, that I must start with
the rear and sideyard setbacks, On building No. 2, which is the existing warehouse and
they have the newest map. That's the existing warehouse that's up against the track
which will be refurbished. That remains at a setback of 9.10'. The building on Hummel,
which is at 0 setback, will be removed. Building No. 3, which is a new warehouse, and
building No. 1, the office building, will be proposed at a 5' setback from the railroad,
which is fenced. I realize that 70? is the required setback on a comer lot. A non comer
lot would require 20'. We ask that you review this project more in terms ofa sideyard
than a fron~tyard, a rearyard, given the fact that it is a comer lot and the total lot width at
that point in the property, the eastern section of the property actually being the wider, if
only 140'. And a reduced yard would be appropriate. The alternatives would be to first
reduce the size of the building. And we would like to avoid that because that would
provide inadequate work space for the business that they do plan to conduct here. And it
would also involve moving those buildings further towards Hummel Ave. to create a
bigger setback against the railroad tracks. That would result in loss of parking, because
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you'd be moving into that parking area. And also the landscaping area. And it would
only serve to give the railroad ROW more ora setback. And there's really not a whole
lot out there that we feel is going to be advcrsely impacted by that proposed setback.
Until recently that railroad, well recently since they acquired the property, that railroad
setback I understand was kind of a mess. And Cathy and Joe did work closcly with the
railroad to get them to clean it up and get rid ora lot o£junk and overgrowth in there.
And it is much more accessible now. But we submit that the proximity to the railroad
tracks does distinguish this property. And suggest that we do a reduced yard variance on
that side, which would not create an offense to that neighbor. I'd like to give you a map
which shows, as I understand it what the allowable building envelope would be on this
property if all the setbacks were employed. And it's kind of odd because when you look
at section 100-143, which requires 100' and 70', you end up, the actual size of the LI
property only has to be 100x 150'. So how they resolve that as tar as setbacks, I don't
know.
CHAIRWOMAN: It's a non-contbnning lot.
MS. WICKHAM: No, in your LI zone, the minimum width is 100'. The minimum depth
is 150'. And yet you have to have a 100' setback from the front, and 70 from the rear. It
doesn't add up in terms of what they were thinking about when they wrote the code. But
nonetheless we are hem today to deal with what we have.
MEMBER ORLANDO: And you have a 95' setback offofBoisseau?
MS. WICKHAM: We've got a lot of setbacks, let me get out my chart. Let me take
them one at a time. And at first, I'd like to mention that one provision of section 100-143
mentions the fact that you look at the average setback of adjoining buildings. The
setback of the warehouse facility on the adjoining property is at -2'. It encroaches into
Humrnel Avenue. I don't think the BD took that into consideration. I'm not sure that we
should. But that is what the code says.
CHAIRWOMAN: I read that. And I also see that they are saying the average setback,
oh, what is the average setback, is 90' on Hummels.
MS. WICKHAM: Yes. That's correct. That's the average setback whereas the
requirement is 100.
CHAIRWOMAN: And you are asking for, on Hummels?
MS. WICKHAM: 90, as an average.
CHAIRWOMAN: But your plan is showing 95, that's...
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CHAIRWOMAN: We're talking about Boisseau.
From Boisseau
MS. WICKHAM: I think the average is 90. You won't see 90 on the ,nap. The average
I think is 90.
CHAIRWOMAN: He just brought in new maps that we do not, we are not distributing
to thc board.
BOARD SECRETARY KOWALSKI: Are they the maps, Gaff, that they said that you're
supposed to pick up today? They misunderstood you.
MS. WICKHAM: I think they were submitted yesterday. The maps that you have and
the maps that are going to be submitted have not changed the building location. What
has changed is the usage. We had some storage areas that are actually warehouse and the
parking computations. But the actual location of the building has not changed. And you
will not find 90' on the map, You'll find that is the average if you add up and divide all
the setbacks.
CHAIRWOMAN: Ijust don't see what he's making reference to. I don't have any
copies of that showing that anywhere.
MS. WICKHAM: Oh, you didn't bring that. Oh, 1 misunderstood, I'm sorry. You were
talking about different maps than I was. The location and setback to the building have
not changed, so the NOD would not be effected. What's changed is the parking and
some of the landscaping. And those revisions were based on conversations we've had
with the PB.
BOARD SECRETARY KOWALSKI: The message was that Gail was going to pick
them up today and amend them at the hearing. That's why the ladies did not distribute
them. We always get the maps the Friday before the meeting, otherwise...
MEMBER HORNING: We need one more down here. I have the old one.
CHAIRWOMAN: Now we can follow the setbacks you are talking about. Okay, so it is
89. 89 would be the closest on Boisseau. And the closest setback from Hummel is 58. Is
that correct? It's where, it's in the area the building is going to be removed. Is that
correct? The 5 yard setback, there's no change there?
MS. WICKHAM: That's correct.
CHAIRWOMAN: And on No. 1, and No. 3.
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MS. WICKHAM: Now on Boisseau, thc 89' is at the southeast corner. You can see
Boisseau Ave. angles the northeast comer we're at 117.9'. So the average setback off
Boisseau is 104' as I compute it, which is in excess of 100' lninimmn. So that to me, is
not the most significant issue here. And I just wanted to point that out. May I continue
now that we've all got the right maps? Thank you. The setbacks, again, are not out of
considerable character from the neighborhood particularly givcn thc size of the lot. I
mentioned the long building on the other end of the block, which is 2' into the highway.
And that's a very long building. It's actually 340' long. And on this property, there's an
existing building E. You will see nothing is happening with that building. That is
located at 15.8. That's Mr. Bohn's building fbr contractor warehouse. I'd like to run a
little bit, ill may, around the neighborhood. Because it's amazing how many times you
go by something, and until you're involved in something like this, you really don't see
where buildings are located. The Agway building across Youngs Ave. is located about
20' from Youngs Ave., if you don't count the overhang, which is a sort of awning
structure. The Southold Savings Bank building is about 35' from the Youngs Ave. as is
the Seatow building which used to be Southold Lumber Yard's office on the comer of
Hummel and Youngs Ave. If you go around to the other side of the block to Boisseau,
Sufl:blk County Water Authority (SCWA) has a building, which is about 10' from the
side yard against the railroad tracks. And while I realize that more than what we're
asking, at that point, the railroad ROW is only 30' wide. You can see that from the tax
map. Whereas opposite our property, it is 60' wide. And even wider 110', I think, as
you go further west. lfyou continue down Boisseau, the Colonial Village has a building,
a residential building, which is 35' from Boisseau Ave. And they have a 4-car garage
that backs up against the north RR tracks, which has a 4' setback from the RR. And
another 1-car garage with agreenhouseof4'. Further back into the center of Colonial
Village, which is, again, directly across the RR, they have a 7-car garage and a shed,
which appears to be 4' from the line. And a 6-car garage and shed, which is 4' from the
rear line, or side yard line. And as you go down, further down Boisseau towards the
Main Road, those small, older buildings are only 7 or 8' off the Boisseau Ave. Now they
are all pre-existing, they are tiny. But l just thought he board ought to be aware of that
character. Also the Southold Savings Bank (SSB), which used to be SSB, has a 3-car
garage in the rear comer, which is 5' from the side yard. Some of those buildings are 1-
story, but they are not screened. And this is going to be screened and architecturally
reviewed, and 1 think that will make a consideration in terms of attractiveness of the
buildings. We briefly touched on 100-143A, the 100' setback~ 60' from Hummel is the
setback on the main building. Again, if this was not a comer lot, 60' would be well in
excess of what was required. Also the building on Hummel will be removed in
approximately that same location. So you're going from a zero setback with an ugly
concrete black building to 60' with the main building. And I've already discussed the
104 average setback from Boisseau. As to the building length, I'd like to address that
next, if I may. That's 100-143C. And the board has previously interpreted this section as
pertaining only to one of two sides on a comer lot. The BD decided that, that should be
addressed to the longest side, which would be the Hummel Ave. side. Although we have
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3 separate buildings, they will have connectors. So they determine the aggregate length
is 220'. However, the length of the 3 buildings themselves, arc 60' for the officc building
No. l~ 70' tbr the existing warehousc building No. 2, and 70' fbr the pmposcd storage
building No. 3. So building No. I complies, and No. 2 is pre-existing. So we're really
only talking, 1 think, about thc 70' on warehouse building No. 3. Now I'd like to explain
the connectors. Those are single story hallways, which are being provided to facilitate
employee travel between thc buildings. Each building that will be constructed will be
safe contained. 1 may need help here, but I understand they will each have separate
firewalls that they will qualify as independent buildings. And that the single-story
connectors are included merely for convenience so the employees do not have to go out,
or bring their material that they will be moving from building to building outside. We
certainly would covenant that those connectors would never exceed I-story, but the
design was done in order to provide the appearance of 3 separate buildings. And the
construction actually accomplishes that. lfyou look at the schematic that we provided
before, typically when you get screening and fencing in the front of the building, it really
does appear to be 3 separate buildings. Again, I know we have a number of questions
that you may want to explore. There are maps here that show the elevations of the
buildings that apparently also did not get printed out. But we can leave them for you if
you want to distribute them and look at them at your convenience. And they show also
the internal layout of the building. Now, let me just mention one other thing. We have
met with the PB a couple of times. I know you've received a letter from them. We have
discussed with them at length, the question of parking. That's why they have requested a
building usage summary, When we last met with them, they indicated that they would
certainly be looking at it again, but they seemed to be, to my opinion, or from my
reading, somewhat okay with the parking. And we also discussed with them the
feasibility and the possibility that there may be alternate or additional parking available
should it become necessary and should they deem that appropriate. So we are going to
continue to work with them on that.
CHAIRWOMAN: We can't address the question of the 3ra story today.
MS. W1CKHAM: I know, it hasn't been advertised.
C}lAIRWOMAN: A couple of things. One of the things I was a little confused about is
the BD had, in one of the NOD's had omitted that, the width of the building was
noncompliant on both Hummel and Boisseau based on a prior in}erpretation. But the
prior interpretation, i'm sure, said that it required a width of on one street,
And in this case, both streets are non-complying, ls that correct?
MS. WICK}tAM: I think they were referring or they were looking at the Lieb.,.
CHAIRWOMAN: But in that case, one of the streets was compliant. In this instance,
both of them are non-compliant. Both of them exceed, one is 222', the other is 80.
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MS. WICKHAM: In that case, they had 2 buildings.
CHAIRWOMAN: Lieb did, one complied. One did oot.
MS. WICKHAM: They had 2 buildings and they were too long on the Cox Lane side. I
don't honestly recall if they were both complying on the CR 48 side, but I know that
between the 2 of them, they were certainly in excess. But they were separated.
CHAIRWOMAN: I'm a little confused about that because this is not the same thing.
And it is different. And 1 do recall the interpretation said that the code notes a single
street. The presumption, of course, lies on one and is non-complying on both. Which
brings me to the next question because it is 220' long. So that's the one that you've been
sized on.
MS. WICKHAM: If you add all 3 buildings, including the connectors, yes.
CHAIRWOMAN: The 3-story building, why did you choose a width of 80'? As
opposed to trying to have a 60' wide building in that area.
MS. WICKHAM: Because when they evaluated the need for their office facilities, and
they have an awful lot of equipment, technical equipment, which is included in cabinets
and desk space, that was what they were requiring in tenns of the layout. The number of
employees, they have a telecommunications system. They want to provide a cafeteria on
site in order for employees to be able to be there and not have to leave. There's a radio
room that takes up a certain amount of area. There's a number of handicap bathrooms
they need. They just, when they added up all of the facilities they needed, that was the
size of the building that they thought was appropriate.
The other problem was by the time you get done with bathrooms that you have to have on
the roofline, you can only get and then the elevators. When you put the
elevator in, that takes up a lot of space as well.
BOARD SECRETARY KOWALSKI: I just need to ask your name for the record, for
the lady who transcribes.
CAPTAIN JOE FROHNHOEFER: Captain Joe.
MS. WICKHAM: Joe Frohnhoefer.
CHAIRWOMAN: Then maybe I'll just ask Mr. Frohnhoefer another question. I note,
on the plans, the plans say the building is 80x60, which would be a footprint of 4800 sq.
ft. But on Mr. Sandback's note, he says the building No. I would be 5220 sq. fl. Do you
know where the discrepancy is?
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MS. WICKHAM: Yes, I can explain that.
MR. FROttNHOEFER: Is that sidewalks?
MS. WICKHAM: No. lfl could just answer the rest of your question, again, this is not
before us today, but this is what we're talking about a 3'~t floor elevation. And as you can
see, while this is the 60x80 building, the actual area will be within here, but as you can
see a roof that slopes.
CHAIRWOMAN: What the actual tbotprint will be.
MS. WiCKHA'M: That includes that connector.
CHAIRWOMAN: For the addition, okay.
MS. WICKHAM: And possibly, there's a little entry on Boisseau Ave. that might also be
factored in.
CHAIRWOMAN: That is a big, big structure. It looks like SSB.
MS. WICKHAM: Oh, it's much more attractive.
CHAIRWOMAN: 1 always thought SSB was somewhat attractive. The old one, not the
new one.
MS. WlCKHAM: Part of the area requirements are based on how many square feet they
need for people who are on the telecommunications deployment, which is answering the
phone. And they need to have a certain square footage, certain number of people doing
that, And that's where that came up. Again, we'll leave the floor plans with you, but I
encourage them to pair it down as much as possible.
CHAIRWOMAN: The variances are all substantial.
MS. WICKHAM: They are substantial variances. There is no question. We are asking
you to consider the amenability of...
CHAIRWOMAN: Zero building envelope.
MS. WICKHAM: The amenability of use to the neighborhood given the zone, the
reduced setbacks that many of the other properties do have, and the fact that we will deal
with the PB on whatever they feel is the adequate parking constraints.
CHAIRWOMAN: The landscaping and so on.
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MS. WICKHAM: All that.
CHAIRWOMAN: Let's see what, if you're through, let's sec what questions some of
the board members have. Mr. Homing.
MEMBER HORN1NG: With regards to the proposed parking and the 58 spaces required,
are there 58 on here'? And how does a 3'a floor go into effect?
MS. WICKHAM: We've already considered that.
MEMBER HORNING: What you're calling an attic fight now.
BOARD SECRETARY KOWALSKI: Excuse me, could you please speak up? I'm not
picking up the answers, could you please use the microphone? Thank you.
BRETT KEHL, ARCH: Sorry. Brett Kehl. On the computations fbr the amount of
parking space, we did add up all the attic space that was going to be used as storage, and
it's one parking spot for 500 sq. ft.
MEMBER HORNING: To go over this a little bit, cause you have the building too
delineated requiring 4, building 3, requiring 3. The other thing all refers to building 1,
does it not? The basement warehouse, Ist floor office, 2nd floor office, and the attic,
which may be a 3''d floor.
MR. KEHL: Storage.
MS. WICKHAM: That's all building 1. So ifl could clarify that for you, the 58 parking
spaces that were determined, we are asking the PB to accept a 48 spaces based on the
building usage figures that we've given them. We've submitted them an alternate plan
that would provide 3 or 4 additional spaces, which we are asking them to hold back on
unless it becomes necessary because of traffic flow within, we obviously want to avoid.
MEMBER HORN1NG: So the calculated requirements for approximately 58, you are
proposing approximately 48, maybe 2 or 3 more, 48-50, possibly? Is that right?
MS. WICKHAM: And we are actually one over on building E, and we threw that in for
information, even though that part of the project is not changing.
MEMBER OLIVA: Gall, did you say that they'd be on staggered schedules?
MS. WICKHAM: Yes. The day shift will be coming and going hourly so that probably
by the middle of the...
MEMBER OLIVA: That great shift of 40-50 cars coming out.
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MS. WICKHAM: That's correct. Let me give you that. But 1 only have one copy. I
could provide more. 1 think l have it. We spent a fair amount of time in thc PB with this.
I'm sure we'll be spending more. Do you have any other questions while I'm...
CHAIRWOMAN: The only other thing is, I just noted it. We do have a copyofa NOD
that was amcnded June 19th IIOW l just see it was amended June 18th.
MS. WICKHAM: One was today, and one was yesterday, right?
BOARD SECRETARY KOWALSKI: We didn't get yesterday's yet.
MS. W1CKHAM: 1 didn't get either one of them. I don't know, maybe he made a
mistake thc first time. 1 can't answer that question.
BOARD SECRETARY KOWALSKI: Gail, would you be able to send a letter amending
your application to include the relief for the two amended disapprovals'?
MS. WICKHAM: Well once I get straight with the BD what the amendment is with
respect to the 3~'d story, that is what I intend to do. And that's what my letter yesterday
indicated that we would have to do.
CHAIRWOMAN: So what we'll do is we'll recess, we'll leave this hearing open. And
then when you have an opportunity to advertise for the new issues that have been raised
by the BD, then we can take that as well as this same time.
MS. WICKHAM: I'll get that in this week ifI have the approval today, I'll try and get it
in tomorrow, disapproval.
CHAIRWOMAN: Let's see if there are other questions, Mr. Orlando.
MEMBER ORLANDO: 1 know Joe personally, Joe and I have similar livelihoods. So, I
can tell you in fact that you can never have enough storage when you're doing your
emergency response year round, when emergencies do not know holidays or weather or
storms or snow. This winter, digging out equipment in the middle of the night is not fun.
So I can understand Joe's concern for storage, l'm sure the building I logistics is the
major management ofbrm~ch offices and satellites as well as we do. So it's a quiet thing,
more than an active thing. But warehouse No. 3 looks like it's for boats, mainly for
drivable equipment, boats possibly, kind of...
MR. FROHNHOEFER: Mainly for minor maintenance on, if they are ready for
franchising...
MS. WICKHAM: Outfitting.
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MEMBER ORLANDO: And building 2 is Ibr other spill supplies, or whatever'?
MR. FROHNHOEFER: Correct.
MEMBER ORLANDO: I personally like thc way you've pulled everything towards the
RR, 1 don't think they'll complain about noise.
MS. WICKHAM: I also forgot to mention that most of the trucks that come in and out of
here are UPS, FedEx type deliveries, once or twice a day. We are not talking about
tractor trailer deliveries with any, any kind of frcquency at all. If that was one of your
questions.
MEMBER ORLANDO: Like 1 was saying, 1 like the way it was pulled back to give
Hummel as much space as they can, and the RR, they make enough noise. That's fine.
It's pulled offof Boisseau, pretty much. They contribute to the town, I always see them
sponsoring something. So, it's nice to have him around.
MR. FROHNHOEFER: One thing you mentioned about the sound, the building will
actually buffer some of the sound, and cut out the noise from the RR to the townspeople.
MEMBER ORLANDO: So you became a sound barrier to them.
MEMBER OLIVA: If you're going to be repairing boats and what is it? Building No.
...
MR. FROHNHOEFER: We're not going to be repairing boats.
MEMBER OLIVA: No, because I was going to say, you'll going to need a real tall
building.
MR. FROHNHOEFER: No, we just prep them. I think it's 14' high doors. And the
highest point is 21'.
CHAIRWOMAN: Mr. Goehringer.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: The only thing that really concerns me is how do you fight
a fire when you put all the buildings back in that location? That's what concerns me.
MS. WICKHAM: ! told you he'd ask that question. I'm ready for that.
MR. FROHNHOEFER: We have to have the entrance on both sides, Hummel and
Boisseau, to get fire trucks in. We'll also have gained an access from the bypass on the
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ROW fi'om the LIRR. So we have access on both sides of thc building. The main
building is going to be fireproof: That is poured concrete reinforced, ICF formed.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Sprinklers?
MR. FROHNHOEFER: Unnecessary, it has a longer fire rating than anything we have in
town. Thc middle building is all concrete block now, and it will be fireproof: The steel
building is of course, fireproof. That was one of my major concerns. There are also extra
wells that were put in by Suffolk County, test wells on the property. And we have access
to fire hydrants all along the block. So we are pretty well protected, and definitely in the
response zone, only a couple of minutes.
MEMBER HORNING: Sir, did you say the LIRR will grant you an emergency
easement?
MR. FROHNHOEFER: They have. We just responded, recently, to a car accident when
the train hit the car on Boisseau.
MEMBER HORN1NG: Can we get that in writing?
MS. WICKHAM: He's referring now to the fire department. The fire department has
that access.
MEMBER HORN1NG: Oh, the fire department.
MR. FROHNHOEFER: We can get it for access, either way.
MEMBER HORNING: It would probably be beneficial if you have something directly
from the RR regarding this site. If you say you can get that.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: That's the only question I have at this point. It is, it's a
very interesting plan. There's no question about it.
CHAIRWOMAN: The only other question I have is I just in the plans that you have,
you have plans for a lighted sign, external?
MS. WICKHAM: Yes.
CHAIRWOMAN: That's okay, I just didn't...
MS. WICKHAM: That'll go through it's own review.
MR. FROHNHOEFER: Ill may explain, this will be a security area. The gates will be
closed most of the time. The building will be secured all the time. The entrance to the
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building will always be under security.
CHAIRWOMAN: Let's see if there's anyone in the audicnce who would likc to speak
in favor or against this application.
BRIAN HANSEN: I'm not in thvor or against, I'm definitely not against his business
and what he's doing on this plan. My name is Brian Hansen. And I live at 435 Hummel
Ave. And I have some concerns, obviously, and it has nothing to do with what this plan
is in his building there. And I'm definitely not opposed to his business. My concern is to
excess traffic on the street. And also there's an entrance and exit about 10' west to my
house. And that concerns me too, because I have 3 young children. The traffic on that
street is intense as it is. And I'm worried about the safety thctors as well as
environmental factors with that. So I'd like the board to consider that when 1, you know,
whether you set limits or whatever you're going to do with this. But l need to be up here
and I need to express my concerns. And I don't want to waste a great deal of your time.
But...
CHAIRWOMAN: Let's see.
MR. HANSEN: I live on the west side of Hummel Ave.
CHAIRWOMAN: So you're in the middle of this site?
MR. HANSEN. I'm a little west of the site, you know, I'm west.
MEMBER ORLANDO: Down toward the pre-existing site.
MEMBER OLIVA: Near Agway.
MR. HANSEN: Yes. There's a fence there now that Mr. Frohnhoefer just put, and I
spoke to them too, and they just put up a fence. And there's a driveway there, you know,
an exit, whatever you want to call it. And that concerns me as well because, you know,
this traffic is busy. I'm a little leery of it anyway down there. Another problem is
obviously people speeding down the street. But the other thing that concerns me is
there's an entrance, exit right there where my house is. I have 3 young children. And
that worries me.
CHAIRWOMAN: Are we talking about the, Mr. Frohnhoefer, are we talking ab'out the
30' wide privacy gate on Hummel, or are we talking about 3 16'...
MR. FROHNHOEFER: Actually what Mr. Hansen is talking about is an opening down
by the barn, pre-existing, Southold Lumber barn, where the wall was falling down, we
took the wall out and put a privacy fence ali along there and cleaned up and planted that
white fence all along there, which we hope is going to grow up nice. It will get covered
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up eventually. But we have to have an entrance. And what we did was move the
entrance from iu front of the houses down to, unfortunately, down by his house. But
before it was an empty lot. There's a tree linc. We havc to have at least one entrance on
that side off of Hummels for the lire trucks. Jerry is conccrned, I mcan, l have to have
one. Unlbrtunately it wound up down by his place. However, that is going to be a
privacy gate, and it is going to be secured. That is not open to public traffic. The mare
reason we have it there is strictly i-bt fire access.
MR. HANSEN: And I've talked to them about that. And they definitely have good
intentions. And they've definitely improved the quality of the neighborhood with the
fence and stufflike that. It looks a lot better. But I, you know, I have to go on record
with my concerns about this because l think it's important and they are definitely valid as
far as l'm concerned with the safely issues. And that street in general is a little wild
because everybody cuts across. And I am worried about trucks coming in and out of
there. You know, 1 have to say that. That's why I'm here. I have nothing against them
personally or their business or anything like that. That's basically all I have to say.
Thank you for your time.
CHAIRWOMAN: Thank you. We'll take that into consideration. Is there anyone else
who would like to speak in favor or against the application?
MEMBER ORLANDO: To respond to that, how much more traffic will there be?
MR. FROHNHOEFER: As far as we're concerned, there won't be any more. The
problem now is that everybody in town is using it as a bypass to get to the post office.
And let me tell you, it is a bad lot. It's got to get slowed down. And 1 have a couple of
ideas. I'I1 talk to you about getting it taken care of.
MEMBER ORLANDO: But your plans don't have a lot more future traffic that you're
going to implement on it?
MR. FROHNHOEFER: I would say it wouldn't be less. It would be the same or,
virtually none. I mean, we don't run up and down the streets.
MEMBER ORLANDO: Most of your traffic will be offBoisseau coming in.
MR. FROHNHOEFER: Correct.
MS. WICKHAM: And once you're in, you're in. They don't go in and out. Except at
the end of the shift.
CHAIRWOMAN: What would be the next calendar date that would give sufficient time
fbr us to advertise for the postings and the whole 9 yards again.
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BOARD SECRETARY KOWALSKI: August 7, special meeting. When would you be
able to submit all the paperwork?
MR. FROHNHOEFER: IfI may, if we can make it sooner. There are some specific
reasons as to why.
CHAIRWOMAN: Our next regular meeting is on the 24th, and unfortunately, it's
overbooked. The next meeting after that would be the Ist. If the height thing hadn't
come up, we'd be fine. But I just don't know how we could possibly move it up.
MS. WICKHAM: Could you look at the 24th again and see?
CHAIRWOMAN: 21 public hearings we have. We are jammed. I simply can't do
anything else at this point. You have any other suggestions?
BOARD SECRETARY KOWALSKI: We don't have any cancellations.
CHAIRWOMAN: 7pm, August 7~h, is that okay'? I'll make a motion to adjourn the
hearing until August 7th at 7pm. I'll also make a motion to advertise for the height and
other added variances on this.
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APPEALS BOARD MEMBERS
Ruth D. Oliva, Chairwoman
Gerard P. Goehringer
Lydia A. Tortora
George Horning
Vincent Orlando
Southold Town Hall
53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, NY 11971-0959
Tel. (631) 765-1809
Fax 765-9064 (alt. 1823)
http://southoldtown.northfork.net
BOARD OF APPEALS
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
INFORMATION FOR ZBA file #5395 and #5355 - TOW BEE (SEA TOW):
#5395 was assigned in order to process an amended application for TowBee regarding an
additional area variance for the partial third story. The Board rendered its decisions for all relief as
filed with the Town Clerk's Office under #5355. Therefore, an additional determination is not
necessary for filing separately since it was included in the determination filed under #5355. Thank
you.
ZBA Staff~
/-'
10-3-03
NOTE FOR THE RECORD
Appl. No. 5395 - Tow Bee
Gail Wickham, Esq. called and said the three buildings would be connected now, and asked if
there would be any problem. ZBA Office confirmed that the plan that was approved permitted the
three buildings to be connected, either now or in the future), and there was no need to send a written
clarification.
FORM NO. 3
NOTICE OF DISAPPROVAL
UN 2 3 2003 /
DATE: February 19, 2002
AMENDED: June 19, 2003
AMENDED: June 18, 2003
AMENDED: March 10, 2003
AMENDED: April 10, 2003
TO:
East End Drafting & Design A/C Tow Bee LLC
PO Box 1675
Southold, NY 11971
Please take notice that your application dated January 30, 2002
For permit to construct two new buildings at
Location of property: 700 Hummel Avenue, Southold, NY
County Tax Map No. 1000 - Section 63 Block 2 Lot 30.1
Is returned herewith and disapproved on the following grounds:
The proposed construction, on this 74,052 square foot lot, with two front yards, in the LI District, is
not permitted pursuant to Article XIV, Section 100-142, which states~
'~No building or premises shall be used and no building or part thereof shall be erected or
altered in the LI Light Industrial District unless the same conforms to the Bulk Schedule and
Parking and Loading Schedules incorporated into this chapter by reference, with the same force
and effect as if such regulations were set forth herein in full."
In the LI District, bulk schedule requires minimum single side yard setback 20 feet, a minimum rear
yard setback of 70 feet and a maximum of two stories. Plans note a side yard setback of+/- 5 feet for
both proposed buildings (#1 and #3), a +/- 6-foot rear yard setback for building #3 and a portion of the
building notes a third story.
In addition, the proposed construction, on a property with two front yards, is not permitted pursuant to
Article XIV, Section 100-143.A. and Section 100-143.C., which state,
"Structures shall be set back at least one hundred (100) feet from the fight-of-way," and "A
proiect shall be divided into separate structures so that no single structure shall have more than
sixty (60) linear feet of frontage on one (1) street. The setbacks of multiple structures on a
parcel may vary, provided that the average setback of the structures meets the setback required
above and all buildings are at least seventy-five (75) feet from the right-of-way."
The proposed construction notes a +/- 60 foot setback (building #1) from the right of way (Hummel
Avenue) and notes 220 feet of linear frontage on Hummel Avenue and +/- 80 of linear frontage on
Young's Avenue. In addition, the average setback, including existing structures is 90 feet.
This Notice of Disapproval was amended on March 10, 2003, to reflect a new site plan, submitted
by the applicant. This Notice of Disapproval was amended on April 10, 2003, to reflect ZBA
interpretation #4708, dated July 22, 1999. As a result, references to linear frontage on Boisseau
Avenue have been omitted. This Notice of Disapproval was amended on June 18, 2003, to reflect
construction drawings submitted to the building department on June 18, 2003. This Notice of
Disapproval was amended on June 19, 2003 to address the issue of linear frontage on Young's
Avenue.
Note to Applicant: Any change or deviation to the above referenced application, following any
ZBA de~/'re further review~thold Town Building Department.
"- Autho'd~d'~re CC: file, Z.B.A.
APPLICATION TO THE SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF APPEALS
~ '; i For Office Use Only
Office Notes:
Parcel Location: House No. 700 Street Hurcamel Avenue Hamlet So_uthold
SCTM 1000 Section 63 Block 2 Lot(s) 30.1 Lot Size74,053sfZone District LI
I (WE) APPEAL THE WRITTEN DETERMINATION OF THE BUILDING INSPECTOR
DATED: February 19,2002, amended March 10.~O0~and April 10,2003
Applicant/Owner(s): TOWBEE, LLC c/o Abigail A. Wickham, Attorney
Mailing
Address: P.O. Box 1424, Main Road, Mattituck, New York 11952
631-298-8353
Telephone:
Authorized Representative: East End Draftinq and Desiqn
Address: P.o. Box 1675, 8outhold, NY 11971
Telephone: 631-765-1862
Please specify who you wish correspondence to be mailed to, from the above listed names:
{~ Applicant/Owner,s) [] Authorized Representative [] Other:
(Abigail A. WicKham)
WHEREBY +HE BUILDING INSPECTOR DENIED AN APPLICATION DATED 1/30/02
FOR:
~ Buiiding Permit
[] Certificate of Occupancy [] Pre-Certificate of Occupancy
[2] Change of Use
[] Permit for As-Built Construction
Other:
Provision of the Zoning Ordinance Appealed. Indicate Article, Section, Subsection and paragraph
of Zoning Ordinance by numbers. Do not quote the code.
Article xzv Section 100- 142 Subsection and Bulk Schedule
~43 A and C
Type of Appeal. An Appeal is made for: ~ A Variance to the Zoning Code or Zoning Map,
[] A Variance due to lack of access required by New York Town Law-Section 280-A.
[] Interpretation of the Town Code, Article Section
[3 Reversal or Other
A prior appeal [] has 8 has not been made with respect to this property UNDER Appeal
No. Year
/~~~_~L ~' - ?or 0 c~ Use n! 1
Parcel Location: Bouse No. 700 Street Hmel ~venue Hamlet Sourhold
SCTM 1000 Section 63 Block 2 Lot(s) 30.1 Lot Size_74,053sfZone District
I 0YE) APPEAL THE WRITTEN DETERMINATION OF THE BUILDING INSPECTOR
DATED: February 19,2002~ amended Harch 10~2003and ~pr±l 10,2003 and June 18/19, 2003
Applicant/Owner(s):. TOWBEE, LLC c/o Abigail A. Wickham, Attorney
Mailing
Address:
P.O. Box 1424, Main Road, Mattituck, New York 11952
Telephone:
631-298-8353
Authorized Representative: East End Draftinq and Desiqn
Address: P.O. Box 1675, Southold, NY 11971
Telephone: 631-765-1862
Please specify who you wish correspondence tb be mailed to, from the above list.ed nam,es:
~ Applicant~Owner(s) [3 Authorized Representative [] Other:
(Abigail A. Wic~ham)
V~HEREBY THE BUILDING INSPECTOR DENIED AN APPLICATION DATED 1/30/02
FOR:
[lI Buiiding Permit
[3 Certificate of Occupancy O Pre-Certificate of Occupancy
[3 Change of Use
[3 Permit for As-Built Construction
{3
Other:
Provision of the Zoning Ordinance Appealed. Indicate Article, Section, Subsection and paragraph
of Zoning Ordinance by numbers. Do not quote the code.
Article xxv Section 100- 142 Subsection and Bulk Schedule
143 A and C
Type of Appeal. An Appeal is made for:
iR A Variance to the Zoning Code or Zoning Map.
[3 A Variance due to lack of access required by New York Town Law-Section 280-A.
[] Interpretation of the Town Code, Article Section
[3 Reversal or Other
A prior appeal [3 has [] has not been made with respect to this property UNDER Appeal
No. Year
Page 2 o! 3 - Appeal Application
RECEIVED
JUN ?., 3 7_OO3
Part A: AREA VARIANCE REASONS (aHach extra sheet as needed):
(1) An undesirable change will not be produced In the CHARACTER of the neighborhood or a
detriment to nearby properties, if granted, because: The reduced setbacks and e×tended building
length are common in the neighborhood: SCTM # 1000-63-3-1.2(across Boisseau); 63-2-28(Seato
as well as the existing building on this property. The smallest setback is against the
railroad. See also, A~way, (60~1~.5) and ~.e. ~o~mer ~puthq~d Savings o~fiGg bug~dig~(/~0-2-10 4
(2) The benefit sough} Dy the applicant CANNOT De acnleveaDy some mernoareas~mle ~o~ .ne '
applicant to pursue, other than an area variance, because: the lot is narrow and the corner lot
andLI zone setbacks are impossible to meet with enough room for a reasonable building area
{3) The amount of relief requested is not substantial because: The bnidlings do not exceed lot
coverage limits and sufficient parking is planned. While the building length along
Hummel Ave. totals 220 feet. there are actually three separate buildinms, whose lengths
are 60 feet (conforming). 70 feet ~existi~g ~ullding),an8 .~0 f~et, w%t~ hal%way cor&n~ctions
(4) The vadance will NO~ have an adverse e,ecz or Jmpac~ on the pnyslca~or environmental
conditions in the neighborhood or dJstTJct because: A building within a few feet of Hummel Avenue
will be removed and the property will be screened and its appearance will be greatly improve
(5) Has the variance been self-cma}ed? { ) Yes, or (x) No. If not Is the construction
existing, as built?. ( ) Yes, or (x } No.
(6) Additional information about the surrounding topography and building areas that relate to
the difficulty In meeting the code requirements: (affach extra sheet as needed)
The current business has boats lmmmtmd n,,tm~dm Th~ ~ n~ eh~ storage bL'i!ding£ is
in large part necessary to accommodate those boats indoors, where they can
properly outfitted and supplied for their purpose in rescue and salvage operations, which*
This is the MINIMUM that is necessary and adequate, and at the same time preserves and
protects the character of the neighborhood and the health, safely, and welfare of the
community. *require immediate response despite the time of day or night or the
external weather conditions.
{ ) Check this box and complete PART B, Questions on nex} page to apply USE VARIANCE
STANDARDS. (Please consul} your aflorney.) Q~erwise., pi,ease proceed }o }he si.qnafure and
notary area below.
S~gX~re of-Appellant or Authorized Agent -
Sw. orn fe before me }his (Agent must submit Authorization from Owner)
(4~'otary Public) ** See addtional Part A for 100-142 third story.
DONNA MoGAHAN
Nota~.Publlo, State M New Yo~
NO. 01M04851459 7mA App 9/30/02
~o Qualified In Suffolk County
remission Expire8 Aug. 18,
Page 2 of 3 - Appeal Application
JUN :{ 2003
Part A: AREA VARIANCE REASONS (attach extra sheet as needed):
(1) An undesirable change will not be produced In the CHARACTER of the neighborhood or a
detriment fo nearby properties, If granted, because: Building appears as a two story building
with peaked roof, and the third story is an internal storage facility for records of the
business. It extends to less than 50% of the third level of the building. It will not
result in increased personnel or traffic t.o. the site.
(2) The benefit sought by the applicant CANNOn be achieved by some method feasible for the
applicant to pursue, other than an area variance, because: Applicant' s need for storage at its
corporate headquarters necessitates the third floor area. The attic is deemed a third
story because elevator access is provided to permit handicap access by employees and
easier transport of files.
(3} The amount of relief requested is not substantial because: The space is essentially attic
space which is deemed a story by definitional criteria and as ~ result of elevator acces
which is provided to .fa~ilitate access.
(4) The variance will NOT have an adverse effect or impact on the physical or environmental
conditions in the neighborhood or district because: The shape of the building would not change
if the third floor were closed off as an attic.
(5} Has the variance been self-created? ( X ) Yes, or ( ) No. If not, is the construction
existing, as bullf? ( } Yes, or (x) No.
(6) Additional Information about the surrounding topography and building areas that relate fo
the difficulty In meeting the code requlremenM: (affach extra sheet as needed)
This building will conform to New York State Building Code and is permitted
under that code as a three story building.
This is the MINIMUM that is necessary and adequate, and at the same time preserves and
protects the character of the neighborhood and the health, safely, and welfare of the
community.
( ) Check this box and complete PART B, Questions on next page fo apply USE VARIANCE
STANDARDS. (Please consult your attorney.) Ofker~vise, please proceed fo the si.qnafure and
notary area below. ~--v"J~..~.~
Signafure/~f Appellant o~ Auf-horiz-'~'Agenf
Sworn fo beige me fhis~ 5,/~'~' (Agen~nusf submti Authorization from Owner)
day of _~..,,~80s
ZBA App 9/30/02
PROJECT DESCRIPTION
(Please include with Z.B.A. Applicatiou)
Applicant(s): TOWBEE, LLC
If building is existing and alterations/additions/renovations are proposed.'
A. Please give the dimensions and overall square footage of extensions beyond existing buildin~[ 20x 15 &
Dimensions/size: 1) Off±ce - 80' x 60' 2) Storacte 40'x 70' 3) wa]lc~ay~ -24'x5
Square footage: 1) 5220 sf. (2 story 10.440~ 2) ?..qcm sf 3) 1,407 sf
B. Please give the dimensions and square footage of new proposed foundation areas which do not
extend beyond the existing building:
Dimensions/size:
Square footage:
II.
If land is vacant:
Please give dimensions and overall square footage of new construction:
Dimension/size:
Square footage:
Height:
III. Purpose and use of new construction requested in this application:
Office and Storage
W. Additional information about the surrmmding contours or nearby buildings that relate to the difficulty
in meeting the code requirement(s):
Narrow corner lot
V. Please submit seven (7) photos/sets after staking comers of the proposed new construction. -
See Attached.
7/02
Please note' Further changes, after submitting the above information, must be placed in writing and may
require a new No,ice of Disapproval to show changes to the initial plans. [f additional time i.r needed,
please contact our office, or please check ~vith Building Department (765 ]802) or ,4Fpeah' Department
(765 1809) !f you are not sure. Thank you
AMENDED June 20, 2003
QUESTIONNAIRE
FOR FILING WITH YOUR Z:B:A. APPLICATION
A. Is the subject p[emises listed on the real estate market for sale?
[] Yes ~ No
Are there any proposals to change or alter land contours?
[3 Yes lB No
1) Are there any areas that contain wetland grasses? NO
2) Are the wetland areas shown on the map submitted with this application?
3) Is the property bulk headed between the wetlands area and the upland building area?
JUN g 3 2003 ,
4) If your property contains wetlands or pond areas, have you contacted the office of the
Town Tmstces for its determination ofjurisdietion?
Is there a depression or sloping elevation near the area of proposed construction at or below five
feet above mean sea level? No (If not applicable, state "n/a'~.)
Are there any patios, concrete barriers, bulkheads or feaces that exist and are not shown
on the survey map that you are submitting? No (If none exist, please state
Do you have any constmetion taldng place at this time concerning your premises? No
If yes, please submit a copy of your building permit and map as approved by thc Building
Department. If none, please state.
Do you or any co-owner also own other land close to this parcel? Yes
where or submit copies of deeds. $CWM # 1000-63-2-28
If yes, please e~plain
Please list present use or operations conducted at this parcel Storage/~on!:_ra.ctor ' s
yard and proposed use Office and Storage for owner/occupant.
of marin~towim~ & salvage arid communications business.
AuthOred Signature and Date
AMENDED June 20, 2003
Appendix C
State Environmental Quality Revtew
SHORT~NVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM
For UNLISTED ACTIONS Only
PART I--PROJECT. INFORMATION (To be completed by Applicant or Project sponsor)
.. TOWBEE~ LLC I Sea Tow Corporate Headquaters
· 700 Hummel Avenue Southwest corner Hummel Avenue and Boiss~au.[Av~nue
Southold, NY 11971 SCTM # 1000~63-2-30.1
6. DE~CRII&E P~E~
Construction of. office building 60' x 80', and storage building, 40' x 70',
Removal of existing building, close to Hu~el Ave. ~o new buildings will be
connected to an existing storage building via enclosed walkways.'Attic with
elevator access deemed third story.
7. AM~HT OF ~0 AFFE~
~la~ 77 000 sf ac~es U~lmale~ s~e,.,
e. ~L PRO~ED A~ON ~MPLY WITH ~NG ZONING OR OTHER ~TING ~NO USE RESTR;~IONS?
' ~Yea ~NO I/No. des~ee~f~Variance - building width, front, rear and sideyard
O~,c.~.: mixed residential, industrial and co~ercial.
~ __ ~,~ n~NO i(~%~de.~,u~em~al$ Southold Town Building D~pt. - Building
Suffolk County Dept. of Health Services - water/sanitary approval
U Ihe action Is in the Coastal Area, and you are a slalo agency, complete · Coasja! Assessmept Form before procoedlng wilh this assessment
OVER
TO:
Tro~NSACTIONAL DISCLOSURE FL
P:3~3
The Town 9f Southold's Code et Ethics pmhd>:ts_coMhcls of inte~sl on_the pall of
~il~_d employees, ThO ~f this form i.%to p~ovide.infmmation. ?hicl, can .alert the Town
pp~®aflic_ts of!n~allvw it to take whatever aerie, is _n~to avoi~l same
YOUR NAME; 'row~zE, LLC. By. taler..3oseph J. F~ohn.hoefer~Z~ber __
(Last name, first name, nfiddlc initial, unless you arc applying in the n~lo
of someon~ ~lsc or o~cr entity, such as a ~mpany If so. mdicatc th0
o~er per,on or company nan~e..)
NATUI~.; OF APPLICATION: (Check all that apply.)
Tan Grievaaev
V~nanc~ x
Clmnge of Zone ~
Approval of Plat
Exemption from Plat
o~ Official Map
Other
lf"Other',
name the activity: Site Plan
you pcrmnally, (or ~hrough your cmnpm,y, ',pousc, sibling, pa~ant, or child) have a
rdatiol~nhip with any o~ ¢~r ~ployce of ~e Town of Southold7 "Rdanon~hip" in~ludes by
bl~, ,nard~, or business interest. "Buninc~s intercO" mc~,s a busu~s8, ~cludm~ a
partnership, in which ~e Town offigr m employ~ has evm a p~ial owigrshlp of (or
omplo~ncn~ by) a col'portion m which ~ Town offi~r ur employee owns inor~ than 5% of ~o
YES NO x
If you annwercd "YES". complete the balance ofthi~ fbn,, mid date and sign where indicated.
Name of person cmploy~ by Iht: Town ur Sonthold:
Title ut position of that pemon:
Describe that relationship between yeW:self (tho applicant) and Ibc Town offiCer or vmployee.
Either check th{~ appropdat~ linc A throu~ l) (below) ancot de~c, il~ the relationship in thc
space provided
Thc Town officer or employcl: o~ his or }.:t spouse, sibling, parc. at, or child is (cheek all that
apply).
A) the o~er of gleater th~ 5% of the ~lsa~cs of the cmpornte ~ock
of the applicant (when the applicant is a co~cu ation);
..~ B) the legal or bctlcfici~ omct of any interest m a non-c&rpora~ cnuty
(when tim applicma i$ not a ~rpmatton);
~ C) an officer, ducctor, patmcL or employ¢o oftl~e applicant; or
D) the actual applleant
DESCRIP'IION OF KELATIONSHIP
Sub~mtt~ flus ~ day oF~.._.~ 2oo %
Town Of Southold
P.O Box 1179
Southold, NY 11971
* * * RECEIPT * * *
Date: 04/28/03
Transaction(s):
Application Fees
Receipt#:
9650
Subtotal
$600.00
Check#: 9650
Total Paid:
$600.00
Name:
TOWBEE, LLC
700 Hummel Ave
Southold, NY 11971
Clerk ID: LINDAC Internal ID: 73916
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PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS
JERILYN B. WOODHOUSE
Chair
RICHARD CAGGIANO
WILLIAM J. CREMERS
KENNETH L. EDWARDS
MARTIN H. SIDOR
PLANNING BOARD OFFICE
TOWN OF SOUTttOLD
P.O. Box 1179
Town Hall, 53095 State Route 25
Southold, New York 11971-0959
Telephone (631) 765-1938
Fax (631) 765-3136
Date: February 26, 2004
To: Ruth Oliva, Chairwoman
Zoning Board of Appeals
From: Jerilyn Woodhouse, Chairperson
Planning Board
Re:
Request for comments on Towbee
SCTM# 1000-63-2-30.1
Appeal # 5492
In response to your request for comments, the Planning Board reviewed the aforenoted
appeal at its February 25th work session and determined the following:
The Planning Board sees no inherent problems with two tenants on the subject
site where both tenants are the using designated storage space as storage
space, even though the tenants are separate businesses from the principal
business.
PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS
BENNETT ORLOWSKI, JR.
Chairman
RICHARD CAGGIANO
WILLIAM J. CREMERS
KENNETH L. EDWARDS
MARTIN H. SIDOR
P.O. Box 1179
Town Hall, 53095 State Route 25
Southold, New York 11971-0959
Telephone (631) 765-1938
Fax (631) 765-3136
PLANNING BOARD OFFICE
TOWN OF $OUTHOLD
State Environmental Quality Review
NEGATIVE DECLARATION
Notice of Determination Non-Significant
December 8, 2003
This notice is issued pursuant to Part 617 of the implementing regulations pertaining to
Article 8 (State Environmental Quality Review Act) of the Environmental Law.
The Southold Town Planning Board, as lead agency, has determined that the proposed
action described below will not have a significant effect on the environment and a Draft
Environmental Impact Statement will not be prepared.
Name of Action: Proposed Site Plan for Sea Tow Corporate Headquarters
SCTM#:
1000-63-2-30.1
Location:
700 Hummel Avenue, Southold, NY
SEQR Status: Type I ( )
Unlisted (X)
Conditioned Negative Declaration:
Yes ( )
No (X)
Description of Action: This proposed site plan is for Sea Tow Corporate Headquarters
and includes a new 19,540 sq. ft. three-story office building (Building #1 ), renovation of
an existing 3,519 sq. ft. warehouse (Building #2), a new 2,800 sq. ft warehouse
(Building #3), a loading dock of 696 sq. ft. and an existing building with 9,105 sq. ft. of
warehouse (Building E) on a 1.7693 acre parcel in the LI Zone located at the
intersection of Hummel Avenue and Boisseau Avenue, on the southeast corner, in
Southold. SCTM#1000-63-2-30.1
Reasons Supporting This Determination:
An Environmental Assessment Form has been submitted and reviewed and it was
determined that no significant adverse effects to the environment were likely to occur
should the project be implemented as planned.
SEQR Negative Declaration - Pa.qe Two
There has not been any correspondence received from the Town of Southold Building
Department, Town Highway Department, Town of Southold Trustees, Town of Southold
Zoning Board of Appeals, or Southold Town Board in the allotted time. Therefore, it is
assumed that there are no comments or objections from these agencies.
There has not been any correspondence received from the Suffolk County Department
of Planning in the allotted time. Therefore, it is assumed that there are no comments or
objections from that agency.
The correspondence received from the Department of Health Services Office on
November 21,2003 stated no objection to the Town of Southold assuming lead agency
status. The applicant has made an application to SCDHS, Reference Number c10-03-
0013 and will require approval from Suffolk County Department of Health Services prior
to final Planning Board approval. Therefore, it is assumed that there objections from
that agency.
There has not been any correspondence received from the Suffolk County Water
Authority Office in the allotted time. Therefore, it is assumed that there are no
comments or objections from that agency.
The correspondence received from the Suffolk County Department of Public Works on
July 29, 2003 stated this department has no objection to the Town assuming lead
agency status. The applicant will have to comply with the requirements of Suffolk
County Department of Public Works curb cut permit process as required. Therefore, it is
assumed that there are no comments or objections from that agency.
For Further Information:
Contact Person: Bruno Semon, Senior Site Plan Reviewer
Address: Southold Town Planning Board
Telephone Number: (631)765-1938 (x 229)
CC;
Southold Town Zoning Board of Appeals
Southold Town Building Department
Southold Town Board
Southold Superintendent of Highways
Suffolk County Planning Department
Suffolk County Department of Health Services
Suffolk County Water Authority
LAW OFFICES
WICKHAM, BRESSLER, GORDON & GEASA P.C.
WILLLIAM WICKHAM (06-02)
ERICJ. BRESSLER
ABIGAIL A. W1CKHAM
LYNNE M. GORDON
JANET GEASA
13015 MAIN ROAD, P.O. BOX 1424
MATTITUCK, LONG ISLAND
NEW YORK 11952
63 b298-8353
TELEFAX NO. 631-298-8565
MELVILLE OFFICE
275 BROAD HOLLOW RI)
SUITE I I 1
MELVILLE. N. Y, 11747
631-249-9480
FAX NO. 631-249-9484
August8,2003
Town of Southold Zoning Board of Appeals
53095 Main Road, Post Office Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
Re: Towbee, LLC - Variance
SCTM # 1000-63-2-30.1
AUG 2 6 2003
Ladies and Gentlemen:
As requested at the hearing, we request an approval of the setbacks as applied for, but
with approval for an alternate location for Warehouse Building number three (3) should
subsurface conditions require same. The revised location would entail setbacks of (a) a
rear-yard setback of from five (5') feet to up to eight (8') feet from the rear line, reducing
the front yard setback from Hummel Avenue correspondingly (to not less than 94' 9")
While it is expected that these subsurface conditions will be resolved by the engineer,
enabling the building to be located as in the original plan, this alternate provision will
avoid the necessity of coming back to your Board with a reduced front yard setback
should this slight relocation of the building prove necessary.
Thank you for your consideration.
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W1LLLIAM WICKHAM (06-02)
ERIC J. BRESSLER
AI31GAIL A. WICKHAM
LYNNE M. GORDON ~.~-~-
LAW OFFICES
WICKHAM, BRESSLER, GORDON & GEASA P.C.
13015 MAIN ROAD, P.O. BOX 1424
MATTITUCK, LONG ISLAND MELVII,LE OFFICE
NEW YORK 11952 275 BROAD HOI,LOW RD
SUITE I 11
.... ~E.VILLE N. Y 11747
JANET GEASA .~'~ , 631-298-8353
~~, ~ '~~7 /'~?[ /TELEFAX NO. 631-298-8565
Town of South01dZ6ning Board of Appeals
53095 Main Road, Post Office Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
631-249-9480
NO. 631-249-9484
Re: Towbee, LLC - Variance
SCTM # 1000-63-2-30.1
Ladies and Gentlemen:
Enclosed are Full Occupancy charts which will be discussed at the hearing tonight,
together with a letter of support from the U.S. Coast Guard.
Also enclosed are copies of the site plan and third floor plan.
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Very truly yours,
Abigail A. Wickham
AUG 2003
Sea Tow Services International
Corporate Headquarters
Full Occupancy Staffing Levels
First Floor:
Call Center (15 Seats + 3 Supervisors) - call center is open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week
using staggered shifts. Since operation is 7 days a week, not all seats are used on a
daily basis.
12:00 AM - 8:00 AM 1
8:00 AM - 4:00 PM 4
9:00 AM - 5:00 PM 4
10:00 AM - 6:00 PM 4
4:00 PM - 12:00 AM 2
6:00 PM - 2:00 AM 1
Receptionist
I 9:00 AM- 5:00 PM [ 1 I
Dispatch (5 Seats) Since operation is 7 days a week, not all seats are used on a daily
basis.
8:00 AM - 4:00 PM 2
4:00 PM - 12:00 AM 1
12:00 AM - 8:00 AM 1
Second Floor:
Management, professional staff, secretaries, bookkeepers will occupy the second floor. It
is assumed that this staff will all be present 9:00 AM to 5:00 PM.
Management 7
Secretaries 3
Bookkeepers 4
Professional Staff 7
Basement & Building Storage:
It is estimate that there will be 5 inventory & shipping clerks working in these areas,
predominately 9:00 to 5:00.
Parking Spots Needed
AUG
AUG ? 2003
ELIZABETH A. NEVILLE
TOWN CLERK
REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS
MARRIAGE OFFICER
RECORDS MANAGEMENT OFFICER
FREEDOM OF INFORMATION OFFICER
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
Fax (631) 765-6145
Telephone (631) 765-1800
southaldtown.northfork.net
OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
TO: Southold Town Zoning Board of Appeals
FROM: Elizabeth A. Neville
DATED: July 7, 2003
RE: Zoning Appeal No. 5395
Transmitted herewith is Zoning Appeals No. 5395 - TowBee LLC - Zoning Board of Appeals
application for variance. Also included is two (2) letters from Abigail Wickham, notice of
disapproval, SEQR form, ZBA questionnaire, and a survey.
DEPARTMENTAL MEMO
RECEIVED
JUL -
Soutltold Town Clerk
TO:
FROM:
DATE:
SUBJECT:
Town Clerk Elizabeth A. Neville
Office of the ZB/~
June 27, 2003 ~,
Filing of Appeal #5395 - Additional Variance (TowBee LLC)
Please assign the above number to the attached Appeal Application. This
application was filed as an amendment as recommended during Board discussions
at the June 19, 2003 public hearing for this property. No additional filing fee is due
because the maximum was paid while the original Appeal #5355 is being
processed.
Thank you.
Enclosures (complete file as of 2/21/02 for processing)
ERIC J. BRESSLER
ABIGAILA. WICKHAm
LYNNEM. GORDON
JANETGEASA
LAW OFFICES
WICKHAm, BRESSIER, GORDON ~ GEASA, p.c.
i3015 MAIN ROAD, P.O. BOX 1424
MATtITUCK, LONG ISLAND
NEW YORK 11952
631-~98-8353
TELEFAX NO, 631-~98-8565
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June 20,2003
Town of Southold Zoning Board of Appeals
53095 Main Road, Post Office Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
Re: Towbee, LLC - Appeal No.
Amended Variance to Include 3ra Story Variance
Setback and Building Length Variances
700 Hummel Avenue, Southold, New York
SCTM# 1000-63-2-30.1
WILLIAM WICKHAM (06-02)
M ELV{LLE OFFICE
275 BROAD HOllOW ROAD
SUITE Iii
MELVfLLE, NEW YORK II747
JUN 2 2003
Ladies and Gentlemen:
We enclose the following papers, in seven sets, for an amended variance to include third
story building level. The applicant proposes to construct its attic space, comprising 2,000
square feet, with access by elevator so that the files and materials to be stored in the attic
can be more easily accessed and transported. No offices or work space will be permitted in
this area. We have been advised by the building department that the method of access
proposed renders the third level a third story.
1. Copy of Notice of Disapproval last amended June 19, 2003;
(please note the only different between 6/I8 and 6/19 is the building length on two
streets as opposed to one street).
2. Amended Application to Southold Town Board of Appeals;
3. Amended Short Environmental Assessment Form;
4. Amended Questionnaire for Filing ZBA Application;
5. Receipt from Building Department (original set only).
Thank you for your consideration.
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Very truly yours,
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Abigail A. Wickham
ERIC J. BRESSLER
ABIGAILA. WICKHAM
LYNNE ~. GORDON
JANET GEASA
LAW OFFICES
2003
13015 MAIN ROAD, P.O. BOX 14;~4
MATTITUCK, LONG ISLAND
N -w ','o R K 2 .......... 1
631-298-8353 2?5 BROAD HOLLO~F;~OAD
TELEFAX NO. 631-298-8565 SUITE Iii
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June 20, 2003
Town of Southold Building Department
Southold Town Hall
53095 Main Road
Post Office Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
Re:
Towbee, LLC - Amendment for 3ra Story Variance
Setback and Building Length Variances
700 Hummel Avenue, Southold, New York
SCTM# 1000-63-2-30.1
Gentlemen/Ladies:
Enclosed is a copy of the amended variance application being submitted today in this
matter, pursuant to your previous Notice of Disapproval. Please sign the bottom of the
attached copy of this letter to evidence receipt.
Very truly yours,
Abigail A. Wickham
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Received ondune , 2003
Southold Town Building Dept.
ay:
LAW
MAIN RGAD, P.O, BOX I424
MAT'VITUCI(. LONG ISLAND
ER. lC J. BRESSLER
ABIGAIL A, WICKIqAM
LYNNE M. GORDON'
631-298-tl35'.t
TEI_.EFAX NO, 631,298.8565
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WILl,lAM WICKHAM ({36-02)
2?$ r3ROAD HOLLOW ROAD
SU1TE 111
[MELVILLE. MEW YO~K 1174~
631-~49-948fl
'l ~LEFAX NO, 631-249,9~4
Jtme 18, 2003
Town of Samhold Zol~ing Board ef Appeals
53095 Ma{n Road, Post Office Box 1179
Southold New York 11971
Re: Towbee, LLC -
Setback and Building Length Variances
700 Hummel Avenue, Southold. New York
SCTM# 1000-63-2-30.1
Ladies and Gentlemen:
As a result of a. meeting with the Building Depamncnt, we have been advised that although,
a~ [ understand it, the building meets NYS standards for ~ third story, that the storage space
provided in the 'appermest level of the office building meets fl,.e Town's definition ora third
floor and a variance from your Board w/Il be required. We have asked tko Building Departmeat
to amend the Notice of Disapproval and forward it. to you..
Wa ,anticipate addressing the current variance requests for setback and building length at the
heating tomorrow We will request a. continuation of the matter to allow a new he~ing data to
~tccommod~m addJfio:ml information the Boy. rd may request a~er hearing the initial presentation
tomorrow, as well as to a!tow time ~'or ~ to ~letld our appEcation and have fl~e smmc
readve~ised and aotic~ on the fl2ird floor aspect.
, We aim underst,~.nd you haxe received correspondence from tim Planning Board.
Very cml)' yours,
~ Wickham '- '
/-~LANNING BOARD MEMBERS
~/ BENNETT ORLOWSKI, JR.Chairman
RICHARD CAGGIANO
WILLIAM J. CREMERS
KENNETH L. EDWARDS
MAJ~T IN SIDOR
P,O. Box 1179
Town Hall, 53095 State Route 25
Southold, New York 11971-0959
Telephone (631) 765-1938
Fax (631) 765-3136
MEMORANDUM
Date:
To:
From:
Re:
JUN 1 8 2003
June 16, 2003I
Mrs. T or to ra, Chairw'~ ~-~fJ~tJof Appeals d/~
Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Chairman of Southold Town Planning Boar
Appeal # for TowBee ( Sea Tow) proposed construction
Southold, N.Y.
SCTM: 1000-63-2-30.1
In reference to memo request for information dated June 11, 2003.
The Planning Board (PB) held a work session on June 16, 2003 and would like to
offer the following comments and concerns.
The PB is currently reviewing a preliminary site plan for this project. Please
note that the applicant has not paid a fee - thus the PB does not have an
application before it.
2. The proposed site use appears to be appropriate for the zone and will need to
be certified by the Building Inspector for the site plan approval.
3. The parking as proposed will not meet the requirements of the Town code
and will need to be improved for final approval.
Please keep us up to date on the project.
Thanking you in advance.
Cc: file,vs, pb, ZBA, MV (BD)
APPEALS BOARD MEMBERS
Lydia A. Tortora, Chairwoman
Gerard P. Goehringcr
George Homing
Ruth D. Oliva
Vincent Orlando
TOWN MEMORANDUM
BOARD OF' APPEALS
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Southold Town Hall
53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971-0959
ZBA Fax (631) 765-9064
Telephone (631) 765-1809
http://southoldtown.northfork.net
TO:
FROM:
DATE:
SUBJECT:
Planning Board
Lydia A. Tortora, Chairwoman, Zoning Board of Appeals
June 11,2003
TowBee (Sea Tow) Proposed Construction 63-2-30.1
This memo is sent as a request for comments regarding the above reviews pending with
Town Departments. Presently, The Board of Appeals is reviewing an Appeal of the
Building Department's April 10, 2003 Amended Notice of Disapproval requesting
Variances. The Planning Board may be involved regarding a pre-submission review under
the site plan regulations of the Zoning Code. The relief requested before the Board of
Appeals is for two new buildings in this LI Industrial Zone District with: (a) single side yard
setback at tess than 20 feet, (b) rear yard setback at less than 70 feet, and (c) building
linear frontage greater than 60 feet for Building #1, having a front setback average of
90 feet. Location of Property: 700 Hummel Avenue, Southold.
Your comments regarding this pending application are requested. The public hearing on
the variance requests has been advertised for June 19, 2003. By way of a copy of this
letter, we are also asking the applicants' attorney to contact your Department regarding an
updated pre-submission conference and requested comments.
Thank you.
Encls.
cc: Abigail A. Wickham, Esq.
Fax #298-8565
ELIZABETH A. NEVILLE
TOWN CLERK
REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS
MARRIAGE OFFICER
RECORDS MANAGEMENT OFFICER
FREEDOM OF INFORMATION OFFICER
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
Fax (631) 765-6145
Telephone (631) 765-1800
southoldtown.northfork.net
OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
TO:
FROM:
DATED:
RE:
Southold Town Zoning Board of Appeals
Elizabeth A. Neville, Southold Town Clerk
April 28, 2003
Zoning Appeal No. 5355
Transmitted herewith is Zoning Appeal No. 5355 of TOWBEE, LLC by Abigail
Wickham for a variance. Also included is: letter of transmittal by A. Wickham
dated April 24, 2003; Project Description; Short Environmental Assessment
Form; Applicant Transactional Disclosure Form; ZBA Questionnaire; Notice of
Disapproval dated February 19, 2003, amended March 10, 2003 and April 10,
2003; six photos; letter of authorization; copy of tax map; and site plan.
ERIC J. BRESSLER
ABIGAIL A. WICKHAM
LYNNE M. GORDON
JANET GEASA
LAW OFFICES
WICKHAM, BRESSLER, GORDON & GEASA, P.C.
13015 MAIN ROAD, P.O. BOX 1424
MATTITUCK, LONG iSLAND
NEW YORK 11952
631-298-8353
TELEFAX NO. 631-298-8565
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WILLIAM WICKHAM (06-02)
275 BROAD HOLLOW ROAD
SUITE 111
MELVILLE, NEWYORK 11747
631-249-9480
TEEEFAX NO. 631-249-9484
April 24, 2003
Town of Sonthold Zoning Board of Appeals
53095 Main Road, Post Office Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
Re: Towbee, LLC-
Setback and Building Length Variances
700 Hummel Avenue, Southold, New York
SCTM# 1000-63-2-30.1
Ladies and Gentlemen:
We enclose the following papers, in seven sets, for variance for insufficient yard setbacks in the
front, side and rear, and for building length, on this comer lot in the L1 Zoning District. The
applicant proposes to construct business offices and storage facilities for its own use in its
business of sea rescue, towing and salvage. It is currently operating on the adjoining property
on Young's Avenue, formerly occupied by Southold Lumber Company, and has outgrown these
facilities.
1. Copy of Notice of Disapproval dated February 19, 2002, amended March 10, 2003 and April
10, 2003;
2. Application to Southold Town Board of Appeals;
3. Short Environmental Assessment Form;
4. Questionnaire for Filing ZBA Application;
5. Transactional Disclosure Form;
6. Project Description and photos;
7. Site plan showing proposed and existing buildings.
8. Appeal fee of $600.00;
9. Copy of the tax map;
10. Receipt from Building Department (original set only),
I 1. Consent of Owner.
Please note that Existing Storage Buildngs D and E as noted on the site plan map are not
involved in this application except to the extent they are located on the same tax map parcel. No
changes are proposed for those buildings.
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Very truly yours,
Abigail A. Wickham
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ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD: NEW YORK
In the Matter of the Application of
TOWBEE, LLC
CTM Parcel # 1000-63-2-30.1
JUN 1 0 2003
AFFIDAVIT OF
SERVICE BY MAIL
STATE OF NEW YORK:
:SS.:
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK:
Loann Bridenhagen, being duly swom, deposes and says:
On the 6th day of June, 2003, I personally mailed at the United States Post Office in
Mattituck, New York, by CERTIFIED MAIL, RETURN RECEIPT REQUESTED, a true
copy of the attached Legal Notice in prepaid envelopes addressed to cttrrent owners
shown on the current assessment roll verified from the official records on file with the
Suffolk County Real Property Office, for every property which abuts and is across a
public or private street, or vehicular right-of-way of record, surrounding the applicant's
property, as follows:
Ms. Sandra Baldwin
84 Stockyard Drive
Mastic Beach, New York 11951
CTM 1000-63-2-18
Mr. Edward Boyle
77 Hummel Avenue
Southold, New York 11971
CTM 1000-63-2-22
Colonial Village At Southold, Inc.
40 Boisseau Avenue
Southold, New York 11971
CTM 1000-63-3-27.2
Mr. C. Steven Hall
61 Hummel Avenue
Southold, New York 11971
CTM 1000-63-2-19
Mr. & Mrs. Jean Paul Hascoat
875 Hummel Avenue
Southold, New York 11971
CTM 1000-63-2-24
Ms. Mary Jarusiewic
P.O. Box 472
Southold, New York 11971
CTM 1000-63-2-21
LIRR - Legal Department
Attn: Mary Jennings Mahon
Jamaica Station
Jamaica, New York 11435
CTM 1000-63-2-31
Mr. & Mrs. William Penney
2200 Hobart Road
Southold, New York 11971
CTM 1000-63-2-20
Mr. & Mrs. Paul A. Reinckens
1065 Hummel Avenue
Southold, New York 11971
CTM 1000-63-2-25 & 26
Mr. & Mrs. Martin F. Taeschler, Jr.
1746 1st Avenue, Apt. 5H
New York, New York 10128
CTM 1000-63-2-27
Suffolk County Water Authority
4060 Sunrise Highway
Oakdale, New York 11769
CTM 1000-63-3-2
c~worn to before me this day of Jun% 2003
21.' affmaih
Vega Family Trust
68-32 60th Street
Ridgewood, New York 11385
CTM 1000-63-2-23
AMY M, BEASI&'Y
NOTARY PUBUC, State of Ne~y~
No, 01 BE5039767
Qualified in Suffolk County
Cnmmis.qion Ex,oires Fe~ruarV27o ~9 '7
NOTICE
JUNE 19, 2003 PUBLIC HEARING
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF APPEALS
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN, pursuant to Section 267 of the Town Law and
Chapter 100 (Zoning), Code of the Town of Southold, the following public hearings
will be held by the SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF APPEALS at the Town Hall, 53095
Main Road, P.O. Box 1179, Southold, New York 11971-0959, on Thursday, June 19,
2003, at the time noted below (or as soon thereafter as possible):
1:40 p.m. TOWBEE, LLC #5355 - Request for a Variance under Section 100-
142, based on the Building Department's February 19, 2002 Notice of
Disapproval, amended April 10, 2003. Applicant proposes two new buildings
in this LI Industrial Zone District with: (a) single side yard setback at less
than 20 feet, (b) rear yard setback at less than 70 feet, and (c) building
linear frontage greater than 60 feet for Building #1, having a front setback at ah
average of 90 feet. Location of Property: 700 Hummel Avenue, Southold;
CTM #1000-63-2-30.1.
The Board of Appeals will hear all persons, or their representatives, desiring to be
heard at each hearing, and/or desiring to submit written statements before the
conclusion of each hearing. Each hearing will not start earlier than designated
above. Files are available for review during regular business hours. If you have
questions, please do not hesitate to call (631) 765-1809.
Dated: May 20, 2003. Lydia A. Tortora, Chairwoman
Board of Appeals
LEGAL NOTICE
AUGUST 7, 2003 PUBLIC HEARING
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF APPEALS
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN, pursuant to Section 267 of the Town Law and
Chapter 100 (Zoning), Code of the Town of Southold, the following public hearing
will be held by the SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF APPEALS at the Town Hall, 53095
Main Road, P.O. Box 1179, Southold, New York 11971-0959, on Thursday, August 7,
2003:
7:00 p.m. TOWBEE, LLC #5395 - Amended Request for Variances under
Sections 100-142, 100-143A, and 100-143C, based on the Building
Department's February 19, 2002 Notice of Disapproval, amended June 19,
2003. Applicant proposes two new buildings in this LI Industrial Zone District
with: (a) side yard setbacks at less than 20 feet, (b) rear yard setbacks at
less than 70 feet, (c) building linear frontages greater than 60 feet along two
front yards facing Hummel Avenue and Youngs Avenue, with a setback
average of 90 feet from the front lot line, and (d) a portion of the new
construction will be greater than the code limitation of 2-1/2 stories. Location
of Property: 700 Hummel Avenue, Southold; CTM #1000-63-2-30.1.
The Board of Appeals will hear all persons, or their representatives, desiring to be
heard at each hearing, and/or desiring to submit written statements before the
conclusion of each hearing. Each hearing will not start earlier than designated
above. Files are available for review during regular business hours. If you have
questions, please do not hesitate to call (631) 765-1809.
Dated: June 24, 2003. Lydia A. Tortora, Chairwoman
Board of Appeals
H~EARINGS
~)UTHOLD TOWN BOARD
OE APPEALS
OTICE IS HE.BY G~N,
m~t to Section 267 of ~e
wb Law and Chapter 100
)ding)~ Code of ~e To~ of
u~ol~, the followMg public
tfings will be held by ~e
~THOLD TO~
~ APPE~S at the Town Hall,
~5: Main Road, RO. Box
79; Southold, New York
¢71-0959, on Th~sday,
, 2003, at the times noted
10w (or as soon ~ema~er as
ssible):
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03 Notice of Disapproval
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~; ~ Hut!fling D&pa~n/'s
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COUNTY OF SUFFOLK
STATE OF NEW YORK ss:
Lise Marinace, being duly sworn, says
she is the Legal Advertising
of the Traveler Watchman,
printed at Southold,
and that the notice of
armexed is a printed copy, has
published in said Traveler
Watchman once each week
for .....[. ..... week(~ successively,
commencin)~fn t~ ..... .~..~- ...... da3' of
........... ,fA.rd. t.~. j ...... 2003.
Swom/~ be, fore me this...'~...~2~...day of
..... .~...., 2003.
Notary Public
Emily Hamill
NOTARY PUBLIC, State of New York
No. 0! HA5059984
Qualified in Suffolk Count3j
Commission expires May 06, 2006
~Legals from pre~di~page [slaud Somid.:):fhe' SWirhra~ng (b) .prppo~ed ~dd[tto~ls/~l.~er; BU/II~:D~0artna~s:Februarv ~.
pool also is ProPosed in a Side ations to a non-habitab, le a~ces} 27; 20b"J N~c~ of Dis;P~i-0Va[.c(~'2~a
Section 100-244B, based on the yard location instead of a code sory building, and (c) as built Applicant proposes an additi0~t~ ha
Building Department's February required rear yard. Location of accessory shed located in ml to the existing nonconforming,4~' a~
5, 2003 Notice of Disapproval ip)?pert~:. 2670 Grandvie~ area other than the code required dwelling with a single side yard ur
Applicants are proposing to con- rive, unent; CTM 1000-14-2: rear yard. Location of Property: of less than I 0 feet and total side tv,
struct a deck addition at less 3.6. ' 8310 Soundview Avenue ~ yards of less than 25 feet, and of
than35 feet from the front prop-' 11:00 a.m. BLUEPOINTS Southold; CTM #1000-59-7-fi' rear yard of less than 35 feet· 4fi
e.rt7 line at 1060.Navy Street CO., 1NC. #5335. Request fo~: ~ 29·6 /Ref. CTM #1000-48-2-19 (and 3-
Ormnt:Parcel 1000-25-4-3. ~a) an~Interpretati0n under~ l:I0pm DAVID PAGE AND 40) '
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LEGAL NOTICE
AUGUST 7, 2003 PUBLIC
HEARING
SOUTHOLD TOWN
BOARD OF APPEALS
NOTICE IS HEREBY
G1VEN, pursuant to Section 267
of the Town Law and Chapter
100 (Zoning), Code of the Town
of Southold, the following pub-
lic hearingwill be held by the
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD
OF APPEALS at the Town Hall,
53095 Main Road, P.O. Box
1179, Southold, New York
11971-0959, on Thursday,
August 7, 2003:
7:00 p.m. ~
#5395 - Amended Request for
Variances under Sections 100-
142, 100-143A, and 100-143C,
based on the Building
Department's February 19, 2002
Notice of Disapproval, amended
June 19, 2003. Applicant pro-
poses two new bm'ldings in this
LI industrial Zone District with:
~ side yard setbacks at less than
feet, (b) rear yard setbacks at
less than 70 feet, (c) building lin-
ear frontages greater than 60 feet
along two front yards facing
Hummel Avenue and Youngs
Avenue, with a setback average
of 90 feet from the front lot line,
and Ed) a portion of the new con-
stmction will be greater than the
code limitation of 2-1/2 stories.
Location of Property: 700
Hummel Avenue, Southold;
CTM #1000-63 -2-30.1.
The Board of Appeals will
hear all persons, or.their repre-
sentatives, desiring to be heard
at each hearing, and/or desiring
to submit written statements
before the conclusion of each
hearing. Each hearing will not
start earlier than designated
above. Files are available for
review during regular business
hours. If you have questions,
~P61ease do not hesitate to call
31) 765-1809.
Dated: June 24, 2003.
Lydia A. Tortora, Chairwoman
Board of Appeals
1X 7/3/03 (805)
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK
STATE OF NEW YORK ss:
Lise Marinace, being duly sworn, says
that she is the Legal Advertising
Coordinator, of the Traveler Walchman,
a public newspaper printed at Southold,
in Suffolk County; and that the notice of
which the annexed is a printed copy, has
been published in said Traveler
Walchmqn oi~ce each week
for ..... !z .....week(~ :psuccessively,
comme~cine on the ..... :.~'. .......day of
.... ....
..... ....
Notary Public
Emily llamill
NOTARY PUBLIC, State of New
No. 01 ttA5059984
Qualified ia Suffolk ( ounty
Commission expires May 06, 2006
APPEALS BOARD MEMBERS
Lydia A. Tortora, Chairwoman
Gerard R Goehringer
George Horning
Ruth D. Oliva
Vincent Orlando
BOARD OF APPEALS
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
September 30, 2003
Southold Town Hall
53095 Main Road
Rd. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971-0959
ZBA Fax (631) 765-9064
Telephone (631) 765-1809
http://southoldtown.nor thfork.net
Fax 298-8565
Abigail A. Wickham, Esq.
Wickham, Wickham, Gordon & Geasa
13015 Main Road
P.O. Box 1424
Mattituck, NY 11952
Re: Appl. No. 5395- TowBee, Inc.
Dear ~M~m:
Please find enclosed a copy of the Board's Findings and Determination
rendered at Zoning Board of Appeals Meeting held September 11, 2003. Copies
were also today forwarded to the Planning and Building Departments for their use
in the next review step.
Thank you.
Very truly yours,
Linda Kowalski
Enclosure
Copies of Decision 9/30/03 to:
Building Department
Planning Board
SITE PLAN OF PROPERTY
AT SOUTHOLD
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
SUFFOLK COUNTY, NEW YORK
SCTM: 1000-63-02- 30.1
AREA = 1.7693 ACRES
SCALE: 1" = 20'
PROPERTY NOW OR FORMERLY
OWNED BY
TOWBEE, LLC
1560 YOUNGS AVE.
SOUTHOLD, NY. 11971
"O
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1' 1'
SEA TOW // SEA SPILL
CORPORATE
HEADQUARTERS
BOISSEAU AVE.,
SOUTHOLD, NEW YORK
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~//////////////~
LANDSCAPED AREA
EXISTING BUILDINGS
NEW BRICK WALKS
BUILDINGS TO BE REMOVED
PROPOSED NEW STRUCTURES
APPROX. LOCATION OF
PRE-EXISTING TREES
WITH MIN. OF 6" CALIPER
@ 3' HEIGHT
4' ARBORVITE TO BE PLANTED
LIGHTED SIGN DETAILS ~
2' 8' ~ TREES TO BE PLANTED
SITE PLAN I~ORMATION IS BASED ON L,AND SURVEY PREPARED BY PECONIC ~URVEYORS, P.C. - JOHN T. METZGER LICENSED LAND SURVEYOR (LS 49618)
LOT SIZE:
LOT COVERAGE:
BLDG. #1
BLDG. #2
BLDG. #3
WALKWAYS:
BUILDING TO BEIREMOVED
PARKING SPACES
HANDICAP PARKING
PARKING SPACES AVAILABLE
DRIVEWAY & PAI~KING:
LANDSCAPED AREA:
PARKING SPACES REQUIRED
BASEMENT WHAREHOUSE AREA:
FIRST FLOOR OFFICE AREA:
SECOND FLOOR OFFICE AREA:
ATTIC STORAGE AREA:
BUILDING #2 AREA:
BUILDING ~3 AREA:
EXISTING BUILDING E
EXISTING BUILDING E
EAST
END
DRAFTING & DESIGN
SITE PLAN DATE: 06-12-03
SEA TOW
CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS
HUMMEL AVE.
SOUTHOLD, NY 11971
SCTM: 1000-63-02~30. I
77,070.71 sq. ft
20.219,00 sq. ft. OR
5.220.0 sq. ft.
2,546.0 sq. ft.
2,800 sq. ft.
26.23%
1,407.0 sq. ft.
2,3B0.0 sq. ft.
45 spaces
4-7 TOTAL SPACES AVAILABLE
37,251.00 sq. ft. OR 48,33%
19,558.00 sq. ft. OR 25.3B~
DRAWN I~Y
Ea~t End Drifdng & Design
5130 MAIN BAYVIEW RD.
SOUTHOLD, NY 11971
631-765-1862
SITE PLAN INFORMATION I~ BASED ON
LAND SURVEY PREPAREDBY PECONIC
SURVEYORS, P.C. - JOHN T. METZG~ll-
LICENSED LAND SURVEYOR (LS 49618)
TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF
STRUCTURES:
BUILDING #1 16,018 sq, ft.
BUILDING #2 5,519 sq. ft.
BUILDING ~3 2.800 sq. ft~
LOADNG DOCK 6~J6 sq. fL
REQUIRES 3 PARKING SPACES (1 per 1000 sq.
REQUIRES 18 PARKING SPACES (1 per 100 sq.
REQUIRES
REQUIRES
REQUIRES
R~QUIRES
58 TOTAL PARKING SPACES REQUIRED
REQUIRES 10 PARKING SPACES (1 PER 1000 sq.
~1 PARKING SPACES AVAILABLE
ft.)
ft.)
26 PARKING SPACES (1 per 100 sq. ft.)
PARKING SPACES (1 PER 500 sq. ft.)
PARKING SPACES (1 per 1000 sq. ft.)
PARKING SPACES (1 Der 1000 sG.
ft.)
WARREN A. SAMBACH SR.
CONSULTING ENGINEERS AND PLANNERS
P,O. BOX Iq. b3 7675 COX LANE
CUTCHOGUE , NEW YORK, 119;~5
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