HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-08/11/2003BENNETT ORLOWSKI, JR.
Chairman
P[O: Box 1179
Town Hall, 53095 S~ate Route 25
Southold, New York 11971-0959
Telephone (631) 765-1938
Fax (631) 76~-3136
PLANNING BOARD OFFICE
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
MINUTES
August 11, 2003
6:00 p.m.
Present were:
Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman
Richard Caggiano, Member
William J. Cremers, Member
Kenneth L. Edwards, Member
Martin H. Sidor, Member
Mark Terry, Senior Environmental Planner
Bruno Semon, Senior Site Plan Reviewer
Carol Kalin, Secretary
SETTING OF THE NEXT PLANNING BOARD MEETING
Chg~rman- Orlowski: I would like to call this meeting to order. The first order of business
is for the Board to set Monday, September 8, 2003 at 6:00 p.m. at the Southold T~own
Hall, Main Road, Southold, as the time and place for the next regular Planning Board
Meeting.
Mr. Cremers: So moved.
Mr. Edwards: Second.
Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. All those in favor?.
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Sidor.
Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Chairman_ Orlo_ws_ki_: 6:00 p.m. - Morton, Keith Scott - This proposal is to set off a~1.94
acre improved lot, located within the R-80 Zoning District, from a 17.44 acre parceI with
access from Orchard Street in Orient. SCTM#1000-25-4-11.6
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I will ask if there are any comments or questions on this proposed set-off?
Charles Cuddy, Esq.: Mr. Chairman, Members of the Board: I am Charles Cuddy. I
represent the applicant. Asyou know, this has been through review both here and ip the
Health Department. At the ~ealth Department, we covenant that there would be only
three additional lots after this lot. I believe that the application meets all of your
requirements for set-offs .and I would ask you to approve it. Thank you.
chairrhan Orlowski: Any Other corn ments?
Troy Gustavsoh: This is not a comment - a question. Troy Gustavson¢ I am a neighbor
Cn Qrient! ~lust a q~6s(i0n reg. ard'ng the set-off and how it effects the r*emaining property.
What is the connection here betw, een this and what is going to be the remaining fiftben
or so acres?
Chairfnau. Orlowski: Well, the parcel that is remaining will be there but the covenaqt put
br~ by tbe?pplicant with the Health Department understanding is going to be threebts -
Ul~ to'thre:8 lots if they do that.
Troy Gustavson: They would normally yield how many houses under current -
Chairman Orlowski: Probably at least - total?
Troy Gustavson: Seven additional homes?
Chairman Orlowski: No. There probably would be at least four to five, right?
Troy Gustavson: There is concern in Orient about the transition of this property from a
farm to a housing development and there is a sense that, even with a total of four
houses on there, there has been a significant change in signals from the applicant
based on what he said he was going to originally do versus what he apparently is doing
now and, to us, that is unfortunate because it is one of the few remaining agncultural
parcels close to the village and, obviously, the second part of this is a whole other
question and I assume it will come before you at some point. But a lot of people are not
happy about this.
Chairman Odowski: Yes, the Board is sensitive to that fact and we worked with the
applicant and think he has tried the preservation route with the County and I guess he is
still actively pursuing that and there was I think, I believe, four more lots in this
application and they cut it down to just the one lot and remaining seventeen acres. So,
that is all -
Troy Gustavson: The one lot that could become three additional houses?
Chairman Orlowski: The large lot, yes, and that could be and, right now, there is not a
law to stop that so -
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.Troy GustavsOn: Yes, we understand that. There is a hope that they will be able to work
something out through the County or Town program, obviously, and I think some
neighbors arC prepared to maybe Step up and see that they can do something to
encouragethat too because, again, even with only- only four houses on that prope~rty,
that is a ~ignificant transition'~from what that place has been historically.
Chairman Orlowski: Well, it's good to know. It has happened in other County deals.
t'i~i~Ve bee~°n that;committee and sometimes with neighbors in¥olved in ma~ng ii ~ork
includih'g -
Troy,G?stavson: Yeah we are trying to get the Land Trust invo ved too Obv ously
there w I be more sa d n terms of the rema~mng fifteen acres. Thank you.
Chairman OrlOwski: O K. Any other comments? Hearing none, any questions from the
Boa?d. Hearing none, I will entertain a motion to close the hearing.
Mr. Cremers: So moved.
Mr. Edwards.: Second.
Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? Al
those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Sidor.
Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries. (The hearing was closed at 6:05
p.m.)
Does anyone have a pleasure on this?
Mr. Ca.q.qiano Mr. Chairman, I'll offer the following:
WHEREAS, the applicant proposes to set off an improved 1.94 acre lot from a 17.44
acre parcel; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, acting under the State Environmental
Quality Review Act, performed an uncoordinated review of this unlisted action. The
Planning Board established itself as lead agency, and as lead agency, made a
determination of non-significance and granted a Negative Declaration on November 4,
2002: and
WHEREAS. the Suffolk County Depar[ment of Health issued approval for the action on
June 6, 2003; and
WHEREAS, on May 22, 2003, the applicant filed with the Office of the Suffolk County
Clerk in Liber 12252, Page 432, a Suffolk County Department of Health Private Well
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Covenant conditioning that the residual acreage (15.50 acres) cannot be subdivided into
more than three (3) lots; and
WHEREAS, the Orient Fire District, in a letter dated May 20, 2003, recommends that
the applicant ihstall an electric fire well located not more than 100 feet from Orchard
street at the entrance of the property and the Planning Board concurs with this
, recommendation; be it therefore
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board grant conditional final approval on
!t~ maps, la'st re~J~ed. March 20, 2003, subject to the following conditions. These
~eon~iti~)n§~mU~t I~' 'mbt~within six (6) months of the resolution:
The Plann;ipg Board reviewed the park and playgrou'nd requirement. As per
Section 106-38 of th:e Subdivision Regulations, the amount to be deposited ~with
the Town for pai'k and playground services is now $5,000 per lot for each
vacant lot i? the subdi¥ision. A park and playg.ro, und fee of $5,000 will be
recruited p~ibr to any endorsement of the' subdivIsion by the Planning Board
2. ']ihe submission 0f three (3) mylar maps and five (5) paper copies with Suffolk
County Depaitment of Health Approval.
To satisfy the Orient Fire District's request for an electric flrewell, the Planning
Board is requiring that the applicant file a covenant and restriction mandatin
tt~at prior to the issuance of a building permit upon the residual 15.50 acre
parcel, th~spedifi'ed firewell will be installed. The Planning Board is also
requiring th~at fo!lowing the installation of the firewell, that the operation is
v~rif!ed, in Writ,fig, by,the Odent Fire District and submitted to this office.
?ollowing a;l~proval of the covenant and restriction by the Planning Board,
dbcument must be filed With the Office of the Suffolk County Clerk and, upon
filing, the libor and page number recorded upon the Plat.
Mr. Cremers: Second the motion.
Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those ~n favor?.
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Sidor.
Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries.
Chairman Orlowski: 6:05 p.m. - Purita/Sawicki - This proposed lot line amendment Will
transfer 6,626 sq. ft. from SCTM#1000-51-3-4.3 to SCTM#1000-51-3-4.1 and transfer
9,860 sq. ft. from SCTM#1000-51-3-4.3 to SCTM#1000-51-3-6.1. Following the transfer,
SCTM#1000-51-3-4.1 will equal .60 acres and SCTM#1000-51-3-6.1 will equal .61
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acres. The property is located north of the intersection of Old North Road and CR 48
and south of Sound View Avenue in Southold in the A-C Zoning District.
Are there any questions on this lot line amendment?
Abigail Wickham, Esq.: Good evening, my name is Abigail Wickham, representing the
applican[. I am happyto answer any questions you or someone else here might haye.
Chairman Odowski: We don't have any questions yet. Are there any other commenls?
(There.were-~ nOhe.) Any other comments from the Board? Hearing ~0 further comments,
I Will eRte'rtain a motion to close the headng.
Mr. Cremers: So moved.
Mr, Edwards: Second.
Chairman Odowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those in favor?.
Ayes: Mr. Odowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Sidor.
Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries, (The hearing was closed at 6:12
p.m.)
Mr. Cremers: Mr. Chairman, I'll offer the following:
WHEREAS, the applicant proposes to transfer 6,626 sq. ft. from SCTM#1000-51-3-4.3
to SCTM#1000-51-3-4.1 and transfer 9,860 sq. ft. from SCTM#1000-51-3-4.3 to SC-M#
1000-51-3-6.1; and
WHEREAS, following the transfer, SCTM#1000-51-3-4.1 will equal .60 acres,
SCTM#1000-51-3-6.1 will equal .61 acres and SCTM#1000-51-3-4.3 will be reduced in
area from 27.40 acres to 27.03 acres; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, acting under the State Environmental
Quality Review Act, performed an uncoordinated review of this Unlisted Action and
issued a Negative Declaration on July 14, 2003; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to Chapter 58, Notice of
Public Hearing, has received affidavits that the applicant has complied with the
notification provisions; and
WHEREAS, all the requirements of the Lot Line Regulations of the Town of Southold
have been met; be it therefore
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board grant conditional final approval on
the surveys, dated as revised June 20, 2003, and authorize the Chairman to endorse
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the final surveys subject to fulfillment of the following condition. This condition must be
met within six (6) ~no~ths of the resolution:
1. The filing of new deeds with the Office of the Suffolk County Clerk pertaining to
the amendment of the lot line and, upon filing, submittal of a copy to this office.
Mr. Edwards: Second the motion.
Chairman Odowski~ Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
these in favor?.'
Ayes: Mr. Odowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Sidor.
Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries.
Cha_irma_n__Orlow_ski; 6:10 p.m. - Peconic Landin,q - This proposed amended site plCn is
for a new 26 car parking lot near the Community Center. The property is located oft the
north side of Main Road,l,121' east of Sound Rd., in Greenport. SCTM#1000-35-1-25
Does anyone have any comments on this amended site plan?
Charles Cuddy, Esq.: Chades Cuddy, for the applicant. Tom Wolpert is with me from
Young and Young. This parking area is indispensable to the residents of Peconic
Landing because it allows them to use the Community Center. So, it is absolutely fc
them something that they need, something that they use, and certainly we would ho
that the Board would not have any problem approving this. It certainly does not distt
or disrupt anything in the community and, at this point in time, those residents rely u
that parking facility. Thank you
Chairman Orlowski: Any other comments?
Russos Abadiotakis: Yes, sir. My name is Russos Abadiotakis. I am the owner right
to it. There was a house over there - one-family house, like supposed to be residen
They knock down the house. Now, they want to put parking over there. Now they w~
to put parking - they put in the center of the development and when they make the
plans, they should make one plan for the whole thing - don't make them, you know,
every six months or every year or something. You people are the ones - you make t
plans, they approve it and then you ask us if we agree. I mean, don't think that she
work like that. I buy the zoning every month from here. I don't think the Planning Bo~
and the Zoning Board operates normal - I don't think so. I'm not trying to knock anyb
down but I think that they should consider the people before they approve a plan. TI'
the way it should be done. In the back of my house, is the golf course. My house is
there. In all the houses ~n town here - I don't know if you people know or not - it is th
oldest estate house. Now, there was a farm there; there was horses there. There w~
cows there; there was a lot Of things when I bought the house. Three years ago, I tri,
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to rebuild a piece of the~garage in the back They gave me so much troub e from the city
hall here. C~st me mayb~e ter~ thousand dollars Lot of troubles. They call the SPCA;
they cull'the Board .of'Health; they call the - horses - I mean, I have the cows - I have no
cows near my house - maybe thtee hundred feet. Now, the golf course, they got the
machines over there. They put the machines in the. side they're suppose, d to. Now,
abOUt five, six, seven.years ago they...(inaud b e) a permit to build a bu Iding r ght
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house parking'lots. They shouid be
lor everybody. If we.make zoning, we
know. say [hat any gol~: course, a'n~
from any property lihe. Now. you
my re'nee. N~.,~. [hey m. ~ike'~mo like -I
co~ie !~t~h~ T~s:~r~ry,v¢~en I p~y,m~ tax
I~otfrer',a~ I .ce~te t~. ~ you k~ow -
to God I feel Ifk'e
I reel like. I r~ean, thi,*.thing, I
Chairman E),rl'o~ski: I fe~l fer you but that's a t, ota y d fferent issue than what we are
Ib6l~g"~'~ ~Ow r~[hiit~ y~u h~ave to proceed w th the 'Building DePartment and {a k
to {'t~e~~ ab~t {ii~t i~sot~ ~i~,is just an expansion of the parking in Peconic Landing.
ane l.here is jus~ someth'ing !.hat i~.added on now becaus~ we C~me up' short the first
time and [hey added some cars but I know it is not close to your house, or in your back
yard as this
Russos Ab~diotakis: This is my lot. What happens if I want to build a house next to. it -
'm going ~o look at the pa'rking lot? What happens if my son wants to build a house next
to it?
Chairman Orlowski: Is this the one you are talking about?
Russos Abadiotakis: The new one, yes.
Chairman Orlowski: The golf course?
Russ_o.s Abadiot_akis: No, no - the new one. What happe,.n_s if I want to build on that siide
which I took five hundred feet from the house? What - I m going to look right next tcJ the
parking lot?
Charles Cuddy, Esq.: Mr. Chairman, if I may -
Russos Abadiotakis: I mean, they build they break up a one-family house which the
statute was there for maybe fifty, seventy years there. They knock down the one-family
house to make a parking lot? 1 mean, we switch the zoning any where we -
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Charl.esCuddy, Esq.: Mr. Chairman, it is not th s parcel and I would be happy to tall< to
th s gentleman On behalf of Peconic Landing. But this one, as you know, is more th~n a
thousand feet from the road so it can't be next to his house. It ju st is not possible.
Russos Abadiotakis: How many feet is it going to be away from my lot line?
Mr. Cuddy: I will be happy to talk to you about it.
.Russos ~badiotakis: No, no. Can I ask the Planning Board how many feet away from
my lot line?
Chairman Orlowski: This here?
Russos Abadiotakis: Yes.
Chairman Orlowski: I think it is a whole lot further than you -
Russos Abadiotakis: I think it -
Chairman Orlowski: I think I am just following you - I think that you are talking about the
golf course property.
Russos.Abadiotakis: No, no. I brought it both up to show you that I have already a
problem i~n the back. I have got to go to court. I'm going to sue the city hall because~ it
cost me t(~n grand to put a lawyer to get three surveys I got on the property because Mr.
Forrester wants me to make a new survey. I made three surveys so far So, made a
third one. I mean this is going too far. I mean, whatever - fifth ~urvey? Now, there is a
one-family hOuse bu It there for fifty, sixty years. They knock it down and put a park ng
10t?. No way.
Bruno Semon: Mr. Chairman, there is no demolition involved in this site plan at all.
There is no single-family dwelling where the parking lot is going.
Russos Abadiotakis: What?
Chairman Orlowski: There is no dwelling being torn down in this application.
Russos Abadiotakis: Is the parking lot going to be in the front of Route 48 on the ro~ad?
Chairman Odowski: No.
Russos Abadiotakis: How far back?
Chairman Orlowski: About a thousand feet.
Thomas Wolpert: May I speak?
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Chairman Orlowski: Yes.
Mr. Wolpert, Engineer with Young and Young: The parking lot - it's a twenty-six car -
twenty-five or twenty'-six car parking lot - which is the subject of this public hearing is
roughly in the center of a one hundred forty-five acre parcel and I don't think it is
anYWhere near any aa~acent properties or even within sight.
Chai~h~an Orl0wski: You do understand that. I mear~, it is not even c)ose.
Russos AbadiOtakis; Why did they knock the house down, then?
C[lairman'Od0wSki: No, there is no house being knocked down.
Russos Abadiotakis: They did not knock down that house?
Chairman Orlowski: No.
Russos Abadiotakis: I don't believe it. This prope~y border this ..{inaudible) one- family
house in the fCdnt of Route 48 about thirty feet away from the front line.
Chairman Orlowski: That's not what we are talking about here.
Russos Abadi0takis: This is the same development, the same property, the same -
Chairman Orlowski: It has nothing to do with this application which we are discussing
tonight. I think you could pursue this matter that you have - or question - with the
BUilding Department and ask them because it is not here. O.F~.?
Russos Abadiotakis: Wait until I see a car parked right next to my house then I am
going to come over here and complain again.
Chairman Orlowski: Yes. This one won't be there. Any other comments?
Frank Mclntosh: My name is Frank Mclntosh. I live adjacent to Peconic Landing and I
have no problem with the proposed site that they are going to use for their twenty-five
lot parking facility but my question to the Board is will there be further parking lots thlat
are adjacent to this property, in your opinion?
Chairman Odowski: I don't believe so but they have the dght to make that application
but I can't -
Frank Mclntosh: That is such historic land and, of course, my house was built in 1650
as you know. Stanford White was the architect and I am preserving ~t for the community
and we have been very fortunate. I have a very good relationship with Pec0nic Landlng
but I am just concerned and I want to register my concern for any future kind of
developments that are around that particular site because it is cherished land and it
really should not be commercialized beyond what's happened now in my opinion.
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Chairrnan Orlowski: Yes, thiS parking is just -
Frank Mclntosn: I know the parking site. I have seen it. I have been to the Planning
Board and I sawthe map this rnoming and I am aware of ~t and I don't have a problem
With this whatsoever but I do - am concerned about future parking lots that might r
border the road Orbe adjacent.
Ohairman Orlowski; It would have to come back here and make an application and'we
woU ;d have to'go ~h~ou~h ~his process.
Frank Mclr~J:osh: And I can motiitor that -
Chairman Odowski: Absolutely.
Mr. Mclntosh: - and I will. Thank you very much.
Chairman Orlowski: O.K. Any other comments? Hearing none, any questions from the
Board. Heanng no further comments, I will entertain a motion to close the hearing.
Mr. Cremers: So moved.
Mr. Edwards: Second.
Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those in favor?.
Ayes: Mr. Odowski, Mr. Cagg~ano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Sidor.
Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries. (The public hearing was closed at
6:25 p.m.)
Mr. Edwards: Mr. Chairman, I'd like to offer the following resolution:
WHEREAS, the proposed amended site plan, to be known as Amended Site Plan for
Peconic Landing Parking Lot, is for a new 26 car parking lot near the Community
Center; and
WHEREAS, Peconic Landing at Southold, Inc. is the owner of the property known and
designated as Peconic Landing, located 1,121' east of Sound Rd. on the north side of Main
Rd., in Greenport, SCTM#1000-35-1-25; and
WHEREAS, a formal application for approval of this amended site plan was submitted
on December 27, 2002; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Engineer responded on November 19, 2002 with the
review of the drainage calculations and the Planning Board accepted his
recommend ations for approval; and
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WHEREAS, the So.u. thol~ Town Planning Board on June 9, 2003, made a determin.,ation
that ~the prOPosed Site plain.amendment ~vork is a Type II Action and is not subject fo
review I~ursuant to 6 NYCRR Part 617.5; and
WHEREAS, the Greenport Fire Department responded on June 22, 2003 after review of
the amended Site plan ~nd the Planning Board accepted the recommendations for
appro,zal; and
WHEREAS~ the amended site plan, dated October 2, 2002 was certified by the
Sbuthold~itown Building Inspector On July 7, 2003; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town P anning Board, pursuant to Chapter 58, Notice of
ub m Heanng has received affidavits that the applicant has complied with the
not fic~tion Provisions; and
WHEREAS, all the requirements of the Site Plan Regulations of the Town of Soutltold
have been met; be it therefore
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board grant final approval on the
amended site plan prepared by Young & Young, dated October 2, 2002, and authqrize
the Chairman to endorse the final surveys subject to a one year review from the date of
the building permit.
Mr. Cremers: Second the motion
Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those in favor?.
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Sidor.
Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries.
Chairman Orlowski: 6:15 p,m. - Mattituck Park District - This proposed site plan is for
a new 2,940 sq. ff. accessory building on a 3.1 acre parcel in the R-40 Zone located at
the property known as 9233 Peconic Bay Blvd., on the s/w/c of Peconic Bay Blvd. & Bay
Ave., in Mattituck. SCTM#(s)1000-126-6-17 & 1000-126-6-18
I will ask if there are any questions on this proposed site plan?
Leslie Breese: Yes. Hi, I am Leslie Breese and I am an abutter. Our family has
continued problems with this park and the lack of any sort of design or planning and
their randomness of building whatever they chose to build. The proposed building
seems not quite compatible to a park setting. I would like to know exactly what the
purpose of this building is for. Can anyone tell me what th ~y are going to hold inside this
building? It's going to be with a chain link around it. I would like to know what is there -
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just feet from where this wonderful playground is for youngsters. This seems
incompatible.
Abiqail Wickham, Esq.: I can answer that, Mr. Chairman, either now or later.
Chairman Odo~vski: Well. I am sure we are going to have a lot of questions so maybe
we can put these all together and have the attorney stand up and answer some of'
these. O.K.?
Leslie Breese: Can I continue? Is there -
Chairman Odowski: Yes, go ahead.
Leslie Breese: Over the past thirty years, our family has been an abutter. We have seen
continued addition of buildings and structures. This is the first time that we been notified
Of anything being built. Within - since the Fourth of July, another building has gonelup
.which we'were not notified about. I am surprised that we even got notification of thi~. I
have a' question about what the total height of this building will be. It is considered to be
a one story but it is a pole barn. I would like to know how high it is. Those ;)eople w lose
homes currently face the park have lost their beach view with the construction of m )re
and mor'e;c~f these buildings. This is a park. This is rare property. This is something to
cherish not to destroy. There most be ot.h, er places better suited for a building - a I: lace
that is safer away from the children. I can t imagine the liability of having these tru~ cs
pulling up'so close to a playground. Parents watch but you can't watch every mom~ int of
the day.. I think the location ds a poor choice. I would like to know what is being housed
in there and what Other location we might find to put that in there and then maybe they
can go b~6k andre-landscape it and make it a true park. It has really run down hill
incredibly. Thank you.
Chairman Odowski: Any other comments?
Edward Herman: My name is Edward Herman. I am from Madene Lane. I have the
same questions as the former speaker did. Number One: What is the height of this
building going to be? What is the purpose? Also, are there any other requests going~
with this b'uilding? Is the only request to put up a building? Why would it have to come
before the Planning Board?
Chairmar Odowski: For site plan to -
Edward Herman: Site plan to put a building right in the middle of a large lot and they
have to come before the Planning Board and that's the only reason they put the
application in is for the erection of that building?
Chairman Odowski: Yes and I think they are taking down the old building and just
putting up a new building but we will get some questions answered for you if you want
to just have any other questions?
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Edward Herman: Fine, thank you.
Chairman Orlowski: O.K.
Helen Dickin,q: Hi, I am Helen Dicking and I live at 525 Old Salt Road so I am just east
'of Veterans Park. Our big concern is the no~se that comes from the park after dark, way
into one, two, three, o'clock in the morning. It is Kids that are in the park driving their cars
around and doing wheelies and spinnihg out. I kept a record here these last sevent~ays
~and, at ]~ four of ~hose nights, there is noise coming from the park at eleven o'c!bck
a'hd rn~d~ight. NoW, I noticed today that four iron posts have been put ir~ ~ two on e~her
side dt~ !~ne. enltmnce and the exit with gmat big rings in these, iron posts so that ~a~
meah that $1~ere is gding to be a chain Put acrOss. Do any oYY°u know anything about
tt~at?.
Chairman Orlowski: As you bring the questions forward, I think they probably can
answered tonight with the people from the Park District. O.K.?
Helen Dicking: O.K. Great, thank you.
Chairman Orlowski: Any other questions or comments? Gall, would you want to answer
some of these questions?
Abi,ClaiLWickham, Esq.: Yes, if you are ready for me, yes. I hope I can. Abigail Wic] :ham,
representing the Park District and Warren Sambach, who has proceeded with this
application and is here to answer some of the technical questions. But, ~n specific
answer to the inquiries, the purpose of the building is to basically replace the very
delapidated structures that are there now. The Park District is a quasi municipal
organiZation that is charged with providing park facilities to the entire resident tax Iayer
base of Mattituck. Veterans Beach is a wonderful beach and it is a very heavily us, ;d
~3ark and the kitchen facilities for the concession, the bathroom facilities there now they
are dep!orable. They need to be replaced, There are some old buildings there thai
house so'me of the Park District equipment - the Park District, being an entity that ~ aises
its funds through taxes, is concerned of doing this not only efficiently, but economi ;ally,
and they made a decision that those antiquated buildings should be replaced with a
structure which will house a new kitchen concession ares, up-dated bathroom faci ities,
a meeting plaCe for its board on a periodic basis because the building that they hl /e
now in Mattituck is not meeting park district criteria in terms of use for park facilitiE that
will De sold - the one on the Main Road - and used to Ilel p' fund this. The balance the
building is being designed, at this point, to house the pieces of equipment that, at;his
point, so.ice all of the different park facilities in Mattituck and are at various locations.
The bUilding was designed in mind, with the possibility that at some future time, if t~he
district determines that a mom com. rnunity-based type of building might be availal~ e
there, that that could be a conversion. But, at this point, it is to economically repia~e the
facilities that are there for the use of: the park facility its~elft: With additional space fo~- the
equipment that needs to be housed there. I don't believe there have been any recent
additions~ given what ~he buildings look like except for perhaps the playground. The
park, I might also add, is not only open space ~ it is ~ community facility {or park
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purposes. In response to the lady who asked the question about the noise we have
attemp{ed to address that many times with the local Police department and, yes, When
the cement dries arOund the poles that were jUStr installed, I was advised that a chain
Will beI placed.in the evenings to try to address that problem. The height of the buii:l ng -
I am gibing to have tb refer to Mr. Sambach. 13.6 is the aVerage height. Do ydu kd~)w
the ridge hi~i§ht? 16 feet is the ridge height. Anything else? Thank you.
here on Ju~y 4th the last time. Yeah, I am not
tell
there is a cltaih link fence. That chain link:fence - th(
to the plSyground, is approxima!.oly twenty-five feet. ~,.&/hy
twenry-fi~zo 'l:e~t from. a chi[Uren's playground? There is ¢ ind
that chain-ii,ak fence. It is a real problem. I asked the liD. le - tho gid ~,ho was monitoring
the park'on, Sunday- I said is there a special pormi,t for pe'O~]~
be'.acl4~ Sh~' said. ,oh no. '~hoy are not supp:os, od to do that.
Sund~y.~t tbre'o o'clo.ck in 'Lhe a[ternoon. There. are three
and they:are SUMs with their tails up. WHy are they thor02 How dild,'they got'there? The
patking,lbt - you're not supposed to go from,.the parking lot rrlU df, iV~ 0,/efth;e gra~'S to
the. b6abh tb mak~ it cpnvehibnt. Nobody monitors anyLhing g~t.this park but one of the
pic'!.ur~s - I don't.b,ver~ want to g~ve you th~ one they - you can, s'oe tha't 'ihis. is on the
park in the other c~rr~er ove. r' by the Marlrn'e.:Dri~/e Associ~Jtio~. The rails in. the, fence
the,y were p¢obabl,y ct~ar~gr~d last year. rig',bt? Year before, right? Oh, it rnu~t be the year
before that. rig'.hr? O1~ I se.e. The grass .is'~hrs high and the ra~ls aro'tlke this -. broken
and it's a split rail 'fence. The Park doesn't rare and w.e ate g¢ing to Iht [herb build a
building?
Chai,rman Orlowski: O.K. Any other comments?
Edward Herman: If I may, I would like to add something to that. What these peopl~
said '- they are completely right. That split'rail fence that separates a property betw
the M,arl, e~e Lane Civic, of which be ong~ they are a fifty house civic assoc at on -
separating our property from the park is a~ split rail fence that we, at our own expen
have repaired in several places. It is a disgrace. And going down to the water is w~
than tha~. The gentleman is right. The cars come in through the parking lot, they p
on the g'.rass: area right down close to the bluff, and they park there. That park is'w
po0dy niaintained. It really is a disgrace. I would also like to know. are there any p~
restdctidns attached to this request?
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Chairman Orlowski: The parking is on the site plan and you are supposed' to park ,
according to the site plan. I ar~ not sure about parking on the beach because we cannot
~contrel that.
Mr. Herman: You can't control it?
Chairman~Orowsk We can't control it.
Mr. Herman: It's on the Park Department property and they're parking not in the pe
area but on the grass area which is not designed for parking and,. also, as far as th
noise and the people coming down there, we have called the police - I can't tell yo~
meny ~imes - about the cars speeding down Marlene Lane, whipping into the park
there, because they can get in, wheel around there for a while and then they go b~
the OtbeF ~.ay. Every request I have made to the police ~epartment has come up ~
Oh We cant do anything about thator oh we knowthats happening oh, we don'
a radar, wb don't have a man that is qualified tb run one. Well, what in God's nam
theY~do?:.'rhey have yet to stop tine of those cars speed, lng down Marlene Lan~. T
are ~ite; a fe~v youn~ (~hild'r~n on that block and there ~re quite a few elderly. Wh~
somtgBody gets kdled down there, then we w,Jl see what a splash that makes.
A. biga[I Wiekham, Esq.: If I might just - first, of all, I would like to correct a statemen
mad~e..Mr.. G0ehnnger pointed out that there wa~ a te~p~)rary storage gsrage add
whiCl~ W ~J be removed -it's a movable stracturb ~ as s~n as the building isup. As:
other,C0m,me~nts, the use of the parking l0t` - tho~e are~ n°t really building relatedl T
are is~Ue~ that We have - the Park. Dis{ri.~t h~. ~ttempted to address ~and continue
a'd~l~esS.~Ar~y one of th~ese peopl9 is welc~dme to co~e to one of the monthly meeti
of tee Park D~stnct to discuss those ~ssues as opposeU to the budding ~ssues that ~
have hero, this evening.
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Chairman Orlowski: O.K. Then this structure ms a temporary structure then?
Abiqail Wickham, Esq.: It is, yes.
RoRer Breese: Roger Breese, back again. If you had a neighbor who didn't take care of
anything that he had, would you let him build a new building?
Chairman Orlowski: Any other commentS? Any questions from the Board?
Abigail Wickham, Esq.: In terms of overnight usage that is outside of the Park Disti'ict's
hours, the park closes at dusk.
Helen Dickin.q: That may be the park hours, but it doesn't close at dusk. It is open
twenty-four hours a day. The gates are not closed and I appreciate that the steel p~pes
were driven into the ground today and looks like - and this lady said that there wasI
going to be a chain link fence - but I suspect that the chain link fence will be cut pretty
soon. It's not going to work.
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' .Kathleen Knapp: I live on the Boulevard and I do make use of the park. The park h~as
~never been closed. There is a fence that can be closed but it has never been close~l.
Who is going to be in Charge of locking the park up?
Chairman Orlowski: Could you, please?
~,erard ( am Gerry
ger. As you know, I sent you a letter in rebu~_tal
'ee People - that wrote m~ a letter from the~alt
time coming. During the period of the time ~hat
closed the park every night during that project.
we bare to c/o~e
~,lose that park from now, For the tenure tl~at I
;e 1977 - we~have had some
t wil
working ~,vith. dr it will.'be chained bff by one or the
of tho [Ja'rk. I am. going to say [he same thing that I sai~
cou'nte~p'roducLiv, o in'~ayi.ng this, I have never soen
We mebt every - the second Thursday of every
and I do understand, th0 fact that we were working With a limiLdd budget.
pul all of our r'e'sourC'eS into [hi~ particular piece oi property just as we.did - as
vigorously as we did - ~hen we built, the playground.
36
Th~
b~ildi
was in ~r;e, buttal of, the three people from the Sa t ~ake
rue. W ,~ intend tOrepla~;e fences; we.intend to tal~e
.down fenc~ around buildings ar:id wie intend to
pristine nice area which ~hey will all be proud of. I just amla
he same. sL~uat~on that I sa~d,m my letter, that ~mpact~ng th~s
* c0mp~a nt~ that they have When ~hese particu ar
] at somethin,,g, o[l'ter.~th,ah th~s pubffc heanng, We are
:ng ~ice, We ~to a~ol0gi~i~'for any blocking ~)f any water
~'ess has t~ go On Tha~i~,th~ reason ~hy t~
~. I se
you.
If you )ns of me, I wolfish.be very happy to anS~'e[' them.
Ohai. r. man Q[Iowski: The Board - I think we are all the same here - it is,a Planning BOard
a~d It is:a board that is responsible for the site plan and the Site pla~ is rep ac ng an old
bLtild,:ing with a new building. A lot of these issues tiiat you have all brobg~t up here
t0nigh~ I t~hih~, shoutd :be addressed by the M~ttituCk Park District, As: Mi:. Goehringer
has alr~adyls~id, he would like to have you all' comb to his meetfne and talk to him
about tfl~s pi'~)perty. Fth~nk ~t ~s a good thing arid it will help you to ~vork~with him and
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come up w th some other things. In regard to the site plan that we are looking at a~,d the
Parking, you see the site plar~ ~)n the ,~all behind you, this is what wil be approved for
-~ould be~ approved tonight if the Board wou d like ~o and the other th ngs that,the F~rk
.:Dis~rbt 'dr that.yOu are ~sking them to. do, I think should be addressed .a,t their me,ting
ibe¢a~se there, is nothing he~:e that we can really do rin that regard. I don t have an~~
comrhent~ or ~luest ons.
Gerald Goeht'in.qer.' [ just want to apo o~1 ze reaardina the ternnar~rv..n~r~n,~ *~---:-
pJ~c~d ~h~r~i~utonc~we take the b,g oJd barn down, we have no ace to ~,"
· . . . p . putany~ in
~at this pa~celar o r~ untd w:e actu g
~... . P , . ally close the park. That w~ll eventua ly be. rnove~l to
the~A!drit~h Lahe ~ite and [o be used in concert With the soccer arid the: hardball ColOrart.
Tfi~tnk you.
Ch~i~r~an.Odowski: O.K. All dght any other comments? Hearing none, I will et~terta~n a
close the hearing.
Mr. Edwards So move.
Mr. Ci'emers: Second.
Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
thoSe.in favor?.
Ayes: Mr. Qdowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers. Mr. Edwards, Mr. Sidor.
Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries. (The hearing was closed at 6:55
p.m.)
What is the pleasure of the Board?
Mr. Cremers: Mr. Chairman, I'll offer the following:
WHEREAS, the proposed site plan, to be known as Site Plan for the Mattituck Park
District, is for a new 2,940 square foot accessory building on a 3.1 acre parcel in th~ R-
40 Zone; and
WHEREAS, Mattituck Park District is the owner of the property known and designated as
Mattituck Park District, located at 9233 Peconic Bay Blvd., on the s/w/c of Bay Ave., in
Mattituck, SCTM#1000-126-6-18; and
WHEREAS, a formal application for approval of this site plan was submitted on May 13,
2003; and
WHEREAS, the NYS Department of Environmental Conservation, on September 1,
2001 issued NYSDEC Permit Number 1-4738-01147/00005 authorizing this project;
and
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WHEREAS, the applicant has received approval from the Suffolk Coun'[y Department of
Health, dated April 16, 2003 Permit Number cl 0-00-0015; and
WHEREAS, the Mattituck Fire District responded on June 14, 2003 after review of[the
site plan and the Planning Board accepted the recommendations for approval; and
WHEREAS. on June 19, 2003, the Architectural Review Committee reviewed and
a'pCrov~d th~.'pi'oposed site plan application; and
WHEREAS, the site plan, dated March 13, 2003, was certified by the Southold Town
Building inspedtor or~ July 3, 2003; and
WHEREAS, the site.plan, dated March 13, 2003, was reviewed on July 11, 2003 by the
s°.UthOitl Town Trus{ees and determined the proposed building to be out of the wetland
junsdicti,oj1 uniter Chapter 97 of the Town Wetland Code and Chapter 37 of the ToWn
Code, 2d03; ran*d
WHEREAS on june 9, 2003 the Southold Town Planning Board, acting under the §tate
Envirodmental Quality Review Act (Article 8), Part 617 performed a coordinated reFiew
of this Un isted Acfior~. The Planning Board established itself as lead agency, and as
lead agency, made a determination of non-significance and granted a Negative
Declarat o on July 14, 2003; and
WHEREAS, the Town Engineer has reviewed the drainage calculations and the
Planning Board has accepted his recommendation for approval; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to Chapter 58, Notice of
Public Hearing~ has received affidavits that the applicant has complied with the
notification provisions: and
WHEREAS, all the requirements of the Site Plan Regulations of the Town of Southold
have been met; be it therefore
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board grant final approval on the site plan
prepared by Warren Sambach Sr., dated March 13, 2003, and authorize the Chairman
to endorse the final surveys with the following condition and subject to a one year
review from the date of the building permit;
All outdoor lighting shall be shielded so that the light source-is not visible from
adjacent properties and roadways. Lighting fixtures shall focus and direct thel
light in such a manner as to contain the light and glare within proper~y
boundaries.
Mr. Caq.q~ano: Second the motion.
Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? Heanng
none, I just want to put into the record that all the correspondence that we've gotten on
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August 11,2003
ithis application will be on file and in the file and all the Board Members have read ~11 of
-:this. All those in favor?.
Ay'es: Mr. Odowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers Mr. Edwards, Mr. Sidor.
Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries.
Chairman OrlOwski: 6:20 I~.m.. - San.q Lee Farms - This site plan is for the construStion
"Of'a 2,600 sq. ft. ericlosed farmstand. The property is located at 25180 CR 48
app'roximately 781' east of Bridge La., in Cutchogue. SCTM#1000-84-5-1.2 & 1
Any comments on this site plan? Hearing none, any comments from the Board? (There
were no comments.) I'll entertain a motion to close the hearing.
Mr. EdwaCdS: So move.
Mr. Cremers: SecOnd.
Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those in favor?.
Ayes: Mr. Odowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Sidor.
Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carnes. (The hearing was closed at 7:001
p.m.)
Do you want to do this, Marry?
Mr. Sidor:
WHEREAS, the proposed site plan, to be known as Site Plan for Sang Lee Farms, is for
a new 2,600 square foot farm stand on 15.306 acres; and
WHEREAS Fred and Karen Lee are the owners of the property known and designated
as Sang Lee Farms, 25180 CR 48, Cutchogue, SCTM#1000-84o5-1.2 & 1.3; and
WHEREAS, a formal application for approval of this site plan was submitted on
December 27, 2002; and
WHEREAS on July 29, 2002, the Suffolk County Department of Planning granted
approval for the use of land from which Development Rights were sold for the gravel
driveway; and the Suffolk County Farmland Committee concurred with this approval;
and
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Pa,qe Twenty
August11,2003
WHEREAS, on October 17, 2002, the Zoning Board of Appeals granted relief with
condit OhS from Article I, Section 100-13 and Article I, Section 47.3A of the Code for
enclosing an agricultural fafrn stand structure, Application No. 5204; and
WHEREAS. on February 10, 2003, the Suffolk County Department of Health Board of
Review granted a variance request with conditions, under approval number cl 0-02-
0013; and
WHEREAS., on March 20, 2003, the Zoning Board of Appeals grante~ relief with
¢0hditi0n'S fr, om Chapter 47, Section 47.3 A of the Code for a Special ,Exception to
enOlose a f~rrb building with a floor area of 1.300 sq. ftl, Application No. 5324; and
WHEREAS. on May 12 2003 the Town Engineer reviewed the drainage calculations
and thee Planning B~ard has accepted his re~;ommendation for approval; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board on June 9, 2003, made a determination
th;al ttl'e proposed site plan amendment work is a Type II Action alid is not subject to
review purSUant to6 NYCRR Part 617.5; and
WHEREAS, on June, 19, 2003, the Architectural Review Committee reviewed and
approved, With conditions, the proposed site plan application; and
WHEREAS, on June 24, 2003, the Suffolk County Department of Public Works
approved the proposed driveway, with no permit required; and
WHEREAS, on July 1,2003, the Southold Fire District responded after rewew of the site
plan and the Planning Board accepted the recommendations for approval; and
WHEREAS, on July 14, 2003, the Southold Town Building Inspector certified the site
plan; and
WHEREAS, the applicant hereby agrees and understands that if the site plan whic~
receives stamped Health Department approval differs in any way from the proposed
conditional site plan on which the Planning Board held a public hearing and voted
then the Planning Board has the right and option, if the change is material to any of the
issues properly before the Planning Board, to hold another public hearing on this
"revised" site plan application and rescind or amend its conditional approval; and
WHEREAS, on August 11, 2003, the applicant signed a statement agreeing not to
object to a new public hearing and Planning Board review of the revised application;
and
WHEREAS, the Southoid Town Planning Board, pursuant to Chapter 58, Notice of
Public Hearing, has received affidavits that the applicant has complied with the
notification provisions; and
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WHEREAS, all the requirements of the Site Plan Regulations of the Town of Soutl~OId
I~av~been met; be i( therefore
RESOLVED that the SOuthold Town Planning Board grant conditional final approval on
the site plan p'repared by Samuels and Steelman, dated November 18, 2002 and last
revised dune 12, 2003, subject to fulfillment of the following condition. This condition
must be met Within six (6) months of the resolution:
1. Approval by the Suffolk County Department of Health Services.
Mr. Cremers: Second the motion
Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Odowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Sidor.
Chairman Odowski: Opposed? The motion carries.
Chairman Odowski: 6:25 p.m. - Schneider, Ernest - This proposed minor subdivision is
for 2 lots on 12.3 acres and a 1.2-acre lot line change with an existing lot. The property
is located onthe west side of AIvah's Lane, north of CR 48 in Cutchogue.
SCTM#s1000-95-3-10 & 101-1-14.3
Any questions on this proposed subdivision? (There were no questions.) Any questions
or comments from the Board? (There were none.) I'll entertain a motion then to close
the hearing.
Mr. Edwards: So move.
Mr. Cremers: Second.
Mr. Cremers: Second the motion.
Chairman Odowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those in favor?.
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Sidor.
Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries. (The hearing was closed at 7:04
p.m.)
What is the pleasure of the Board?
Mr. Ca.qqiano: Mr. Chairman, I'll offer the following:
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August11,2003
WHEREAS, this proposal involves the subdividing of a 13.41 acre parcel (SCTM#1000-
10%1-14.3) into two lots, where Lot 1 equals 2.32 acres and Lot 2 equals 2.61 acres
and through a lot line modification, enlarging Lot I (SCTM#1000-95~3-10) from 1.1 ri
'acres to 2,32'aCres; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Board granted conditional sketch plan approval on Apd116,
2001; and
WHEREAS, on April 16, 2001 the Planning Board ruled that the Negative Declaration
P'reVbt'~ly'iesued for'the identical action wa's still valid; and
WHEREAS, the Cutchogue Fire Distdct is not requiring a fire well for the proposed
actiorl as stated in ~rl August 1, 2001 letter; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Board has accepted the ruling with the following condition:
At the time a new residence is constructed upon Lot 3, a fire well wil be required
and noted as such upon the final print & mylars and, further, a Covenant and
Restriction shall be filed noting this condition; and
WHEREAS, on September 28 2001 a draft Covenant of Declarations was received by
the Planning Board; and
WHEREAS, on May 20, 2003 the Southold Town Board granted a waiver from the
provisions of Local Law #3 of 2002 and Local Law #3 of 2003; therefore be it
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board grant conditional final approval on
the maps, last revised March 27, 2002, Subject to the following conditions. These
conditions must be met within six (6) months of the resolution:
1. The Planning Board reviewed the park and playground requirement. As per
S,e, ction 106-38 of the Subdivision Regulations, the amount to be depositeR
with the Town for park and playground services is now $5,000 per lot for e~ch
vacant lot in the subdivision. A Park and Playground Fee of $5,000 will be
required prior to any endorsement of the subdivision by the Planning Boar(~.
2. The Suffolk County Department of Health Services approval expired on L
March 21, 2003. Please submit three (3) mylar maps and five (5) paper ~
copies with an updated Suffolk County Department of Health approval stamp.
The filing of the Declaration of Covenants and Restrictions with the County
Clerk's Office prior to any endorsement of the final plat. A notation is to be
placed on the final plat that a Declaration of Covenants and Restrictions has
been filed in accordance with the Planning Board's requirements. The
notation is to include the liber and page number of the recorded document.
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4. The referenced Suffolk County Tax Map Numbers upon the plat are incorrect.
Please c~orrect the plat to reference SCTM#1000-95-3-10 and 1000-101-~1-
14.3.
Mr. Cremers: Second the motion.
Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those in faY'or?
Ayes: Mr. OrlowskL Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Sidor.
Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carnes.
Hearings Held Over From Previous Meetings:
Chairman OrJowski: Reflecting Nature Landscaping - This proposed site plan is to
construct a 2,520 storage building and office ~n a contractor's _y, ard on a 1.1 acre parcel.
The ~)mperty is located on the north side of CR 48, at 260 Coxs Neck Lan~, Mattitu~ck.
SCTM#1000-113-14-10
I'll entertain a motion.
Mr. Edwards: Mr. Chairman, I'll offer the following resolution:
BE IT RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board hereby holds the public
hearing for Reflecting Nature open.
Mr. Cremers: Second the motion.
Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those in favor?.
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Cagg~ano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Sidor.
Chairman Odowski: Opposed? The motion carries.
Chairman Orlowski: Perino, Joseph - This proposed major subdivision is for 7 lots otn
20.8211 acres. The property is located on the south side of Main Road, 150' west of
Sigsbee Road in Mattituck. SCTM#1000-122-7-9.
This is still tied up in the moratorium. I'll entertain a motion to hold this hearing open.
Mr. Cremers: Second the motion.
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:Cha rman Odowski Motion made and seconded, Any ouestions on the motion? All
thbse in favor?.
.Ayes: Mr. OrlOwski, Mr. Cagglano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Sidor.
Chairm~n Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries.
MAJOR AND MINOR SUBDIVISIONS, LOT LINE CHANGES AND, SET-
OFF APPLICATIONS
Final Extensions:
Chairman Orlowski: Niamonitakis - This proposed set-off is to set off a 1.253 acre iIot
from a 18.756 acre parcel; the proposed lot line change between M. Niamonitakis ~'nd
R. Ross is to subtract 2.524 acres from the 18.756 acre parcel and to merge it withlan
existing 0.688 acre lot, resulting in one 3.212 acre lot and the remaining area which is
part of the set-off application. SCTM#1000-31-6-28.1 & 29
Mr. CremerS: Mr. Chairman, I'll offer the following:
WHEREAS, this proposed set-off is to set off a 1.253 acre lot from an 18.756 acre
parcel; and
WHEREAS, this proposed lot line change between M. Niamonitakis and R. Ross is
Subtract 2.524 acres from the 18.756 acre parcel and to merge it with an existing 0.688
acre lot, resulting in one 3.212 acre lot and the remaining area which is part of the sJet-
off application and
WHEREAS, the Development Rights will be purchased by the County on approximately
12.9 ~acres of the 18.756 acre lot; therefore
BE IT RESOLVED that the Planning Board grant a retroactive extension of conditional
final approval effective from July 14, 2002 to December 14, 2003.
Mr. Edwards: Second the motion.
Chairman Odowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those in favor?.
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Sidor.
Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries.
Southold Town Planning Board Pa.qe Twenty-Five August 11, 2003
Setting of Final Hearings:
Chairman Orlowski: Nicokim - This pmp,osed minor subdivision is for 3 lots on 27.2
.acres located on Little Neck Road, 92.76 south of Eugene"s Road, with 201.78'of
frontage on Skunk Lane in Cutchogue. SCTM#1000-97-8-(31.2-31.4)
~Mr. Ca.q,qiano: Mr. Chairman, I'll offer the following:
~HEREAS, this proposed subdivision is for three lots on 27.2 acres located in the R-80
~Ztsning 'l~i~rict; and
WHEREAS, two of the lots are greater than 80,000 sq. ft. and the third is
improve~, and
:Coht~tins- an 80,095 sq. ft.. building envelope exclusive Of a larger lot from which 21.[235
acreS: Of DeVelopment Rights have been sold to the Town of Southold; and
WHEREAS. the Suffolk County Department of Health issued a permit for the actior on
July 24, 200~; and
WHEREAS, the Suffolk County Water Authority issued a letter of water availability )n
July 2, 2003; therefore be it
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board set Monday, September 8, 2 )03,
at 6:00 p.m. for a final public hearing on the maps, dated as revised May 3, 2002.
Mr. Cremers: Second the motion.
Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those in favor?.
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Sider.
Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries.
MAJOR AND MIN. OR SUBDIVISIONS, LOT LINE CHANGES, SET-OEF
APPLICATIONS STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT
Lead Agency Coordination:
Chairman Orlowski: Booth, Edward - This proposal is to set off a 2 acre lot from a 8.05
acre parcel. The property is located n/o Sound View Avenue, 1,669 feet e/o Lightho~use
Road in Southold. SCTM#1000-50-2-15
.Mr. Edwards: Mr. Chairman, I'll offer the following resolution:
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WHEREAS, this proposal is to set off a 2 acre clusteCed lot from an 8.05 acre parcel;
therefore be it
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board star[ the SEQR lead agency
coordination process for this Unlisted Action.
Mr. Cremets: Second the motion.
Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
th0~e 'ih fa;ocr?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards Mr. Sidor.
Chairman Odowski: Opposed? The motion carries.
Chairman Odowski: Booth, Edward - This proposed set-off will set off a 2 acre lot (Lot
3) from a 28.36 acre parCel which includes a 2 acre building envelope (Lot 1 ). The
proposed lot line change will transfer 43,590 sq. ft. from SCTM#1000-52-2-8 to
SCTM#1000-52-2-7 in the R-80 Zoning District. The property is located n/o CR 27, ~o
Mt. Beulah Avenue and s/o Sound View Avenue, in Southold. SCTM#1000-51-2-7 &8
Mr. Cremers: Mr. Chairman, I'll offer the following:
WHEREAS this proposal wil set off a 2 acre lot (Lot 3) from a 28.36 acre parcel which
includes a 2 acre building envelope (Lot 1); and
WHEREAS the applicant proposes to sell Development Rights upon 22.8647 acres ef
Lot 1; and
WHEREAS, this proposal also includes a lot line change that will transfer 43,590 sq. ft.
from SCTM#1000-52-2-8 (Lot 1 ) to SOTM#1000-52-2-7 (Lot 2) in the R-80 Zoning
District; therefore be it
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board start the SEQ R lead agency
coordination process for this Unlisted Action.
Mr. Edwards: Second the motion.
Chairman Odowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Odowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Sidor.
Chairman Odowski: Opposed? The motion carries.
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,:iSITE PLANS -, STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT
-Lead Agency Coordination:
Chairman Orlowski: Daffodils Countr7 Store - This proposed site plan is for an
~alterati~n of an ~existing 5,,093 sq. ft. building On a 0.935 acre parcel~ in the LB, A-C
i~or~.e.,(s), IO'c~te~t at 83217~' West of Kenny's Roadl CR 48 in Southold. SCTM#(s)1000-
"5g~9~0'.4
:Mr. Edwards: Mr. Chairman, Ill offer the following resolution:
WHEREAS, the site plan is for an alteration of an existing 5,093 sq. ff. building on a
0.935~acre parcel in the LB & A-C Zone(s), located 832.77' west of Kenny's Road, CR
48' im~outhbld; and
WHEREAS, a formal application for approval of this site plan was submitted on Ma~ 22,
2003; therefore
BE IT RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board starts the lead agency
coo'rdihation process on this unlisted action.
Mr. Cremers: Second the motion.
Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Sidor.
Chairman Orlowski: Opposed? The motion carries.
APPROVAL OF PLANNING BOARD MINUTES
Chairman Odowski: Board to approve the minutes of July 14, 2003.
Mr. Edwards: So move.
Mr. Caqgiano: Second.
Chairman Odowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Sidor.
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Chairman OrloWski: Opposed? The motion carries.
There is nothing left on the agenda. If anybody has anything they want to add or say for
the record, they can. If not, I'll entertain a motion to adjourn. (No one wished to be
heard.)
Mr. C~iqgiano: So move.
Mr. Cremers: Second.
Chairman Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. All those in favor?.
Ayes: Mr. Oi'lOWski, Mr. Caggiano, Mr. Cremers Mr. Edwards, Mr. Sider.
Chairman OrloWski: Opposed? The motion carries.
There being no further business to come before the Board, the meeting was adjourned
at 7:15 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Carol Kalin
Barbara Rudder
B'~d~'et(' O r f~ws'k~ ,~J ¢., Chair&an