HomeMy WebLinkAboutORIENT BEACH STATE PARK0 NEW YORK STATE
Bernadette Castro
Commissioner
NewYork State Office of Parks, R?creation and Historic Preservation
The Governor Nelson A. Rockefeller Empire State Plaza
Agency Building 1, Albany, New York 12238
March 25, 1997
518-474-0456
Human Resources
518-474-0453
Fiscal Management
518-474-0061
TDD: 518-~86-1899
Ms. Jill Doherty
Board o~ Trustees
Town Hall, 53095 Main
Southold, N.Y. 11971
Road
RE: Orient Beach Stane Park Proposed Picnic Pavilion
Dear Ms. Doherty:
As we discussed, I am sending you information, including an
Environmental Assessment Form and Coastal Assessmenn Form, on the
above-referenced proposal.
Since I spoke with you yesterday, I have further investigated
the applicability of the Town's Coastal Erosion Hazard Areas
(CEHA) Law. The attached approval from the DepartmenE of
Environmental Conservation (DEC) contains a finding that the
snrucEure complies with the variance conditions of the Town's
CEHA Law. Therefore, we believe that the determination by Mr.
Daley of the DEC meems the requirements of the law.
Supporn for a pavilion at the park orSginated from within the
community. We would hope that this long-awaited project would be
supperted by the Trustees. We ~nticipane beginning construction
zn the near future iN order to have adequate group picnicking
facilities available within the park this season.
Thank you for your assistance.
Sincerely,
M. Pamela Otis
Assoc. Environmental Analyse
CC:
William Daley, Chief, Coastal Erosion Section, NYSDEC
Nell Rosenberg, Director, Design and Construction, NYSOPR~P
Raymond Dobbins, Park Manager, O~ient Beach State Park
An Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action Agency
~'~ pnnted on recycled paper
~,:New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
~;50 Wolf Road, Albany, New York, 12233-
March 19, 1997
John P. Cahill
Acting
Con~rniSsio~er
M. Pamela Otis
Associate EnV'nconmer[tal Analyst
N¥~ Office of P~rks, Recreation
and HistOric Preservation
Eml~ire Stat~ Plaza
Agen~cy Building 1
A}bany, NY 1:-2238
Orient Beach State Park
l>foposed. Picnic Pavilion
Dear Ms. Otis:
We have reviewed the information submitted with your December 23, 1996 application
for a Coastal Erosion Management Permit for the above referenced project and additional
information submitted by Neil Rosenberg on February 19, 1997 and have determined itto be
complete. Pursuant to Environmental Conservation Law (ECL) Article 34-0108(5) this
Department is responsible for determining that any State Agency proposed activity or
developmeat Within the identified Coastal Erosion Hazard Area of a municipality administering
its own coastal erosion hazard area regulations meets the municipality's standards adopted
pursuant to Article 34.
The proposedqocation of the picnic pavilion is a sand beach identified as a natural
protective feat~e. Under the Town of Southold's Coastal Erosion Hazard Areas Law (Local
Law No. 24 o£ 1991) all development is prohibited on beaches (Section 6-15 [D]), hence a permit
can not be grag~ted directly. However, the Town Law includes a procedure whereby the strict
application of its standards can be varied or modified to overcome practical difficulties
encountered inthe development of a project (Section 6-30 Variances and Appeals). The variance
procedure congists of five criteria which must be met:
A. No reasonable, prudent, alternative site is available.
All responsible means and measures to mitigate adverse impacts on natural
systems and their functions and values have been incorporated into the activity's
design at the property owner's expense.
C. The development will be reasonably safe from flood and erosion damage.
· The varrance requested is the min/mum necessary m overcome the practical
difficulty or hardship which was the basis for the requested variance.
Where public funds are utilized, the public benefits must clearly outweigh the
long-term adverse effects2
The Coastal Policy Discussions submitted with your application and additional
these issues. However, anecdotal information from
~hould b~ awarethat the Flood' Insurance Rate Map
eot site could be subject to waveheights ~ip to +13 feet
. The lC elevation is estimated at
) e~(~dible/.rpland areas, k is important to note that the wgtve
could occur more. frequenlly and with storms of
~ d00-y~ event.
The open design of the pavilion structure will reduce or eliminate any damages from
infrequera;, lovt-level flooding and the low-cost lends itself to replacementin the event it is
damage.d or deslroye,d in a truly major coastal storm. For these various reasons we have
e~e~d nat,tile proposed structure ~s allowable under the variance conditions of the Town of
~tmth61d~ s Coastal Erosion l-Lazard Areas Law and hereby grant a Coastal Erosion Management
perm[tfcmits construction pursuant to Section 34-0108.5.
Please note that additional permits may be required both from this Agency (Tidal
Wetlands),and from the Town of Southold (Floodplain Management, etc.) and that construction
under tiffs P~nnit can not commence until all other permit requirements are satisfied.
Pursuant to your requests I am enclosing a copy of the FEMA Flood insurance Study'and
Flood Insurance Rate Map (FIRM) for the Town of Southold, single copies of Environmental
Conservation Law Article 34 (the Coastal Erosion Hazard Areas Act) and GNYCRR Part 505
(C6astaI Erosion Management Regulations), and copies of Map Sheets 1 thru 25 and the Index
Sheet of the Coastal Erosion Hazard Areas Map for the Town of Southold.
,//William W. Daley,
Coastal Erosion Section
Enclosures
WWD:jb
cc: Tom Fisher, Code Enforcement Officer, Town of Southold
Roger Evan, DEC Region 1, Compliance Services
Bill Southard, DEC Region 1, CEM
Lou Chiarella, DEC Region 1, Tidal Wetlands
State E~viro=ental Quality Revlew
SHORT ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM
For UNLISTED ACTIONS 0nly
PART I - PROJECT INFORF~TION
· . APPLICA~T/SPONSOR: ~NYS Office of Parks, Recreation & Historic Preservation
2. PROJECT NAME: Construct Picnic Shelter
3. PROJECTLOCATION: Orient Beach StaLe Park, To~ of Southotd, Suffolk Cowry
~. P~ECISE L~TION (~treet address and road intersections, prominent lan~a~ks,
etc., or provide map) Just southwest of bathhouse ~d ptaygro~d (see map~)
5. IS PROPOSED ACTION:
/ K/ New / / E~ansmon / / Modification/alteratmon
6. DESCRIBE PRO,CT BRIEFLY: Construct 30' X 60' picnic shelter a~ Orient Beach
State Park, Thie will be a low pitched beam laminated ti~er shelter with roof
decking ~d steel col~s
7. ~O~ OF ~ AFFECTED:
Initially .1 acre Ultimately .05
RESTRICTI0~?
~/ Yes / No If No, describe briefly:
9. ~T IS PRESE~ L~ USE IN VICINITY OF PROJECT?
/ ~ Residential / / Industrial / / Commercial / / Agri~lture
/X'/ Park/Forest/Open Space / / Other Describe: State Park with acu~ve
{beach swimmln~, picnicking) and passive (nauure viewing) activluies.
10. DOES ACTION I~0LVE A PE~IT APPRO~L, OR F~IN~ NOW 0R ULTI~TELY FROM ~
OTHER ~0~T~ A~ENCY (FEDEX, STATE OR L0~L)?
/ X/ Yes / / No If Yes, list agency(s) and pe~it/approvals: Depar~me~u
of Environmental Conservation - Coastal Erosion Hazard~ea permit.
11. ~ES ~ ASPECT OF THE ACTION ~VE A C~R~LY VALID PE~IT OR APPROVe?
/ / Yes / .X/ ~o If Yes, list agency name and'pe~it/approval
/ / Yes / / No N/A
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I ~RT!FY TPL~T THE' INFO~TION ~
PROVIDED ~J~OVE IS TRUE TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE
Applicant/Sponsor name: M. Pamela Otis for
NYS Ofc. Parks, Reef. & Hist. Pres. Date: 12/23/96
P3LRTS II & III COMBINED:
PART II - ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT,
PART III - DETENMINATION OF~ SIGNIFICANCE. INSTRUCTIONS: For each adverse
effect i~entified~ determmne whether it is substantial, large, imporEan5 or
otherwise significant. Each effect should be assessed in connection with its
setting, probability of occurring, duration, irreve~slbility, geographic scope, and
~agnit~deu tf neoessary~ add autachments or reference suppgarting matermals.
Ensure that explanations contain sufficient debail to show that al~ relevant
a~verse zmpac~s have been identified andadecfaatety addresse~.
A. DOE~ ACTION EXCEED A2~Y T~PE I THRESHOLD tN 6 A~ICRR, PART 617.127
/ / Yes / X/ No If Yes,- coordinate the revmew process and use the FULL EAF.
WILL ACTION RECEIVE COORDINATED REVIEW AS PROVIDED FOR ~LiSTED ACTIONS IN
6 NYCRR, PART 617.67
. X/ ~es / / No If NO, a negative declaration may be superseded by another
mnvotved agency.
C. COULD ACTION RESULT IN ANY ADVERSE EFFECTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE FOLLOWING:
(Answers may be handwritten, if legible)
Cl. Existing air quality, surface or groundwater quality or quantity, noise levels,
existing traffic patterns, solid waste production or disposal, potential for
erosion, drainage or flooding problems? Explain briefly:
Air quality - There will be some localized increases in air emissions during
construction due to the operauion of heavy equipment. No long-term increase in amr
quality ms anticipated as a result of the picnic pavilion. The project ms mntended
to better service existing levels and normally anticipated increases of park users.
Surface or groundwater quality or quantity - The only soil to be disturbed is sand
and pebbles. According mo the Soil Survey of Suffolk County, ~ew York (U.S.
Department of Agriculture, April.197S), this area of the park is fill land from
dredged material. As the soil is highly permeable, no runoff into Gardiner's Bay
should occur. Quality of water reaching groundwater should not be affected by the
proposal due to the nauure and small smze of the project.
Noise levels - Should not be affected no any great degree. Temporary zncrea~es
noise during construction will take place. Et is hoped to undertake construction
early in the sprmng, prior to ~the peak use season, so as to limit the number of
park users affected. Groups now~Lse the park and thus noise from group picnicking
will not be added, but will be somewhat removed from the m~iu picriic grove. Groups
will still be located within the same proximity to the concession and deck area,
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and will not increase or decrease noise i~c~s to those usmng uhe concession
facility There may be some nomse impact to the playground, but playground noise
levels ~re comparable.
Existing traffic patuerns - Traffic and parking within the park are, and will
continue uo be, concerns with or without the proposed picnic pavilion. Presently,
users perk on ~he shoulder along ~heentran~e road during pe&k use nlmes, taxing
park staffing resources as well as posing potential conflicts with plover nesting
areas. The picnic paviii0n'will provide an improved facility f~rpark users. At
present~ groups using the~park are limited by weather unlessthey rent a tent which
is mnconven/ent and costt~. Thus use pressure on the park from groups ~s greatest
when the weather ms favorable Obviously, this coincides with peak use by the
general public. The pavilion can "even out" group use of the park. OPRRP
recognizes a need, however, and will undertake a proqramma~mc assessmenn cf
exist~g traffic patterns and an eval~tion Of ways ~ whic~ to allevmate parking
problem~ presently occurring. While a~tditic~na~ parking within the park would be an
option, other alter~anives such as vis,tot '~caps", extension of mass
transportation, or shuttle service with off-site parking ~itI also be considered.
Solid waste productiom or disposal - Disposal of construction debris will be the
responsibil~uy of the contractor. Under specification in contracts, conuraccors
are required to comply with all applicz~ble laws and regulations, including those
which apply uo C&D materiaI~ Use of the picnic pavilion may generate minor
i~creases in solid waste production and disposal due ~o the potential increased
number of clays when groups may be using, the park.
Potential for erosmon, ~rainage or flooding problems - The park ms within $ Coastal
Erosion Hazard Area and flood hazard zone. However, the particular area of
construction is adjacenu to existing developed areas and one of the least likely
areas Eo flood in the park. As described in the discussion regarding Surface or
groundwater quality or quality, uhe projects are located within an area of filled
land. The beach and ad]scenE area of construction are sandy with pebbles, and with
a gradual slope. The picnic pavilion site is located in a level area well above
extreme high tide. The potential for erosion due to construction activities is
m&nor due to the sandy soil and limited ares affected. After the pavilion is zn
place, a 30' X 60' open area will be replaced by a concrete slab. Dramnage
problems are not anticipated due to the surrounding soils. The shore side of the
pavilion will be placed 125' from extreme high (moon) tide, so flooding problems
are also non anticipated. However, as an open pavilion flood capacity should non
he appreciably affected. The strucctnre will have concrete footings and thus should
be proeecEed from damage due to flooding.
C2. Aesthetic, agricultural, archeological, historic, or other natural or cultural
resources; or coramunity or neighborhood character? At,plain briefly:
Aesthetic - Desmg~ of the pavilion has been ~pproved by OPPCqP's Office of Deslgn
Review. The placement and design of the pavilion have been found mo be compatible
with the setting. The shelter will be a low pitch beam shelter with steel beam
colurans boxed with pine, and cedar roof shingles which match the other buildings mn
the park. The pavilion will be dark brown and consistent with the color scheme of
adjacent park str~ctures.
Agricultural - The prelect will not affect the use of agricultural la~ds.
~_rcheological, b_istoric, or other cultural resources - The project was reviewed by
OPR15P'S Resource Management Group, which includes representation by the Director of
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Field Services in the Division for Historic Preservation. No impacts upon cultural
resources zn or eligible for inclusion in ~he State or National Registers of
Historic Places were identified in this review.
Natural resources - See C3.
Communityor neigb_borhood characner - The purpose of the pavilion ia to provide
an improved facility to better service existing group use a~d reas@nably
anticipated, increases without time proposal, The character of the park will remamn
essentially the same. The desi~ of the picnic pavilion, as described above, is
compatible with existing park suructures. The pavilion will non change the use of
the park, but will provid? a co~ered area for groups to picnic. The pavilion will
be located in the~ same area as the concession area. which now has picnicking on the
other (eastern) side. The ~xisting picnic area will mematn as well es the adjacenu
o~i~dTer~'~S pt~ygro~und. Also refer to previous discussio~ of noise as well as the
discussion r~gar~.~I~ ve~c=tation following.
c3. v~tetion or f~nna, fish, shellfish, or wildlife species, significant
habitats, or tiurea~ened or endangered species? Explain briefly:
Vegetation: The projecn will have little impact on v~getation. The pavilion has
been sited in an open area with scattered clumps of beachgrass ~o the southwesn of
the concession building. The site has been selected to be as far removed from the
beach as possible, without disturbing areas covered with cedars, beach plum,
bayberry, and prickly pmne. The park contains a state endangered plant - scotch
lovaHe, a rare plant - slender knotweed, and another Heritage plant species,
seabeach knotweed, with a global and state ranking of 3. These plants will nor be
affected by this prolcon. The park also contains a Natural ~eritage community,
maritime ~ed cedar forest, with a snane rank of 1. Existing vegetation is an a
premium a5 Orient Beach with the death of Japanese black p~e. Also, ~o provide
visual protectmon to Long Beach Bay, a Significant Coastal Pish and Wildlife
Habitat, a projecu goal is no disturb as little vegeganion as possible.
Wildlife: The park provides habitat for a varmemy of birds. These include the
federally threatened piping plover and the state endangered least mem. These
specmes nesm outside of the developed area and are carefully monitored during
nesting season. The proposed picnic pavilion will have no effect on these species,
and should also non affect other specmes, due to the placement of the pavilion
within an existing developed area.
C4. A co~%munity's existing plans or goals as officially adopted, or a change in use
of la~d or other natural resources? Explain briefly: There is ac officially
adopted plan for the park. There ms no local plan with Durisdiction over the park,
but the community has 1cng desired a picnic pavilion at the park. with the local
Rotary Club mn particular lending its supporm for such a project.
The intensity of use of land will increase somewhat due to a potential increase in
of groups using the park. The size of groups will remain fairly consuanu, with the
pavilion acco~nodating approximately 100 people. This group size ms already being
serviced an the park. The project is intended to provide an improved facility
which Hroups may use during somewhat inclement weather. Group picnicking already
takes place at the park and such use will not mncrease during peak use periods.
The use of land ~o the southwest of the battLhouse/concession will change from an
informally used open area to more intensive picnic use. The intensity of use of
the existing picnic area may decrease somewhat since groups will instead use the
new pavilion. Natural resources, as discn/ssed above, will be little affected.
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C5. Growth, subsequent development, or related activities likely to be induced by
the proposed action? Explain h~iefly: ~h~ proj~ce is nou ~rpected to i~duce
future growth or sLubsequent developmenu ~he park conEalns adecfuaue neliieies for
the picnic use. As discussed previously, there are concerns with parkin~ in tke
park which need to be addressed with or without the proposal. Also, potential
· concerns with saluwater intrusion into the park's welt system due to the coastal
location cOnUlnue. State Parks is in tke process of accl~irin~ ~ upland site
adjacent to tke park which could accommodate a aew well should one prove Eo be
necessary.
Long term, short terra, cu/nulative, or other effects not identified in Cl-Ce?
E~r~lein briefly: No other in, aces identified.
C?. Other impacts (including changes in us,e of either quantity cr type of ener95r)?
Explain briefly: The pro~ect will utilize additional energy d%%rin~ construction
due to ~quiDment operation, and in the long term wilt result in a slight &ncrease
~n the use of electricity for tb3~ pavilion. Adequate electrical s~rvlce Eo the
park ~_xists Eo accommodate this use.
D. IS THERE, OR IS T~ERE LIKELY TO BE, CONTROVERSY RELATED TO POTENTE~_L ADVERSE
ENVIROAIMENTAL !~&PACTS?
/ / Yes / X/ No If Yes, explain briefly:
Part ii! - DETER~INATION OF SIGNIFICANCE (See Parts II ~ III confined)
/ Check tb/s bo~ if you have identified one or more potentially lar9e or
significant adverse impacns which ~A¥ occur. Then proceed directly to the
FULL EAF and/or prepare a positive declaration.
/X / Check this box if you have determined, based on the information and analysis
above and any supporting documentation, that the proposed action WILL NOT
result in any significant adverse environmental impacts AND provide on
attachments as necessary, the reasons supporting this determination:
New York State Office of Parks, Recreation, and Historic Preservation
Name of Lead Agency
Thomas B. Lyons
Print or Type Name of Responsible
Signature of Resp~
Officer in Lead i~cy
Director~ Environmental Manaqement
Title of Responsible Officer
Signature of Preparer
(if different from responsible officer)
December 23~ 1996
Date
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PROJECT f'",IC)TIF~CATION AND
TEM
FED. CAT. Xe LIR~. NoJ' g~-Dn DATE NOI REC~'
P!ease review the atczched//anui/'~anon and urov~de your comments on tms form. Keep one anpl/canon for rot
files and retu~ ~o L~PB n~t'later than ' October 21, 1992 ' '
If you nave any ques~mns passe call this or, ce (516) 852 -4099. You may refer this not,flea,ion ~o any otb,
~n~ares~ea pa~as re.your ~ea.
Do you foresee a conflict between this proposal and any of your A_gency's projects or programs? iplezz
explain ~
Do you have any su_ggestlons which will improve the effectiveness or maximize the benefit of this proposa
please exptaln,
Do you nave some o~her concerns requlrln~ additional communication auout this project? t please expiam:
IS a conference required to resolve your concernt s ;?
%%'hat are your official comments on this project? ?!euse check appro~rtcte
-- This a~encr has no objectzon ~o the project.
[] This agency reqzzests that the LIRPB support th~s ~rojecr.
~ This agency requests £hat the LiRPB not support tnzs project.
-IGENCY 0 FFtC L~L %[A-KING :kBOV~E COMMENTS: AGENCY NAME'
H. Lee Denmson Execuuve Office Ru~lalng
Veterans Mernomai Highway. blauppauge iq ¥. 11788
(516) 853-5189
Lee g. Kouoe~man Susan O. Windesne~m
New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
50 Wolf Road, Albany, New York 12233
September 15,
Commissioner
1992
MS. Susan Windesheim
Long Island RPB
Dennison Building
Veterans Memorial Highway
Ha~ppa~g~, NY 11788
RE:
New Federal Aid Project - Long
Beach Bay Tidal Wetlands
Restoration
Dear Ms. Windesheim:
Enclosed is the State Agency Notice of Prospective
Application for Federal Aid to begin a new project: Long
Bay Tidal Wetlands Restoration.
Beach
Sincere ly,
Director
Division of Federal and Municipal
Accounts
Enclosure
~"--' (~tZ #):
(to Ice
A~an~, ~ L2224
(5Z8) 473-~070)
~S/~/'~rtmerlt of Environmental Conservation
50_~olf Road, Room 630~ Albanyr NY 12233-5022
$~t~ Off~-~ fCouts~ Pez~m:
Dominick Ninivaqqi
(518) 457-5317
i ~uOf Proje=~ or Pm~: Long Beach Bay Tidal Wetlands Restoration
:, PrOj~l~.~ De~i~ (servi=.s ~rovi~. :lie~s smrv.~, sits
Orient, Town of Southold Suffolk County
Loca:ion (cit-f/T~m/Vi 1 ~e): counLT/Ommt_%~s:
~ Of Fe~.ral ~ ~1 U.S. ~t of ~e Interior
~ ~~ ~ ~ F~ ~:.~o~r 1, 1992
~-~ ~ of ~1 ~ril 1, 1993 ~ ~1
March 31, 1994
National Coastal Wetland Grant
Federal~ $~%1~3~: $ 190,000
Direc= Cos~ B~se (~m~un~): $ 0
$ 190,000
$ 380,000
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617.21
Appendix F
State Envh'onmanta! Quality Review
NEGATIVE DECLARATION
Notice of Determination of
Project Number 1-4738-00640/00001-0
"Date Feb. 9, 1993
This notice is issued pursuant to Part
8 (State E~vironm~ntaJ Quality
pertaining to Article
nenta Conservation Law.
The I~ZS 9epartment of E~vi~or~ental Conservation as lead anencv
has deterFlln,~ ~h~:,the proposed, actiOn de~,c, ribed below Wd! not have a significant effect on the
environment and, a Draft Environmental lmoact Sta'~ement will, not be preoared. '
Name of Action: NYSOPR~P~ie~ ~each S~ate Park'Access ROad Stabilization
SEQR Status: Type I
Unlisted
Unlisted action located in Peconic Bay Critical
Environmental Area.
Conditioned Negative Declaration:
i']Yes
~No
Description of Action:
Installation of a gabion mattress ~evetment to. stabilize an
approximatedly 1600 linear feet section of park access roa~-
way eroded during ~he December 1992 Nor'easter
Location: (Include street address a~d the name of the municipality/county. A location map of appropriate
scale is also recommended.)
Orient Beach State 'Park
NYS Route 25
Town of Southold
Suffolk County
Gardiners Bay
SEQR Negative Declaration
Page 2
Reasons Supporting This Determination: ~
(See 617.6(g) for requirements of this determination; see 617.6(h) for Conditioned Neg~ve Declarati~n)
1. The project is desi_omed to stabilize ~he etched side slop~ of an existing road-
way and is iz~ediately nec~s~sa~z to allowed,reconstruction-of the roadway.
2. %~.e~ stru.ct,ute is d~sign.~ to prot~.e~ct the roa~dway frc/n further scour and erosion
wt~n a mmnlmtra of toe scour or erosion to adjacent shoreline areas.
3. The proposed gabions will ~ptoy the same design as an area of existing gabions
installed several years ago alonq an adjacent section of roadw~v ~=~ ~v~*~
_~_~__lons ,adequa~_.e~l,y ~C~ed t~e, shor~li~~ and roadway ~throu~h several recent
severe s~orms w~aonm ~r~ue aaver_se nnpacts to the adjacent Skoreline areas.
4. ~here are no known eD~angered-, ~threatened or special co~cern p~an~ or an/n~I
species 'usi~q the project~ ~ite or adj~ac~nt areas.
If Conditioned Negative Declaration, provide on attachment the specific mitigation measures imposeo.
F~r Further Information:
Contact Person: George Han~narth, Sr. Enviro~m, ental Analyst
Address: Re~lo~
Telephone Number:.
For Type i Actions and Conditioned Negative Declarations, a Copy of this Notice Sent to:
Commisaioner, Department cf Environmental Conserv=tion, 50 Wolf Road, Albany, New York 12233~3001
Appropriate Regionat Office of the Department of Environmental Conservation
Office of the Chief Executive Officer of the political subdivision in which the action will be principally
located.
Applicant (if any)
Other involved agencies (if any)
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(4)' ATTORNEY F~R SELLER OR OWNER
SENO COPY OF SELECTED REPORT DATA DIRECT TO [4)YES [] NO []
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NO. OF BUILDINGS TYPE
E~'GE ~0;~ 'LO
YEAR
,'o..., s.z?.. OFFICE COPY
HENRY P. SMITH, President
JOHN M. BREDEMEYER. Vice-Pres.
PHILLIP J. GOUBEAUD
ALBERT KRUPSKI, JR.
ELLEN M, LARSEN
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Town Hall. 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 728
Southold. New York 11971
October 2, 1986
TELEPHONE
(516~ 765-I892
Mr. Pieter Van Volkenburgh
Chief, Bureau of Shellfisheries
New York State D.E.C.
Bldg. 40
State University of New York Campus
-Stony Brook, New York 11794
Re: Orient State Park Property, Town of Southold
Dear Mr. Van Volkenburgh:
Transmitted herewith is information relative to the
above captioned matter regarding the question of ownership
of lands under water.
Should you have any questions or concerns, please do not
hesitate to contact this office at the telephone number listed
above.
Very truly yours,
Henry P. Smith, President
Board of Town Trustees
Ilene Pfifferling
Clerk to Board of Tmustees
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cc: Bay Constables
file
Attachment
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 728
Southold, New York ~ 1971
September 6, 1984
TELEPHONE
(516) 765-1892
New York State D.EoC.
Division of Law Enforcement
Building 40
State UniverSity of New York
Stony Brook, New York 11794
Re: Orient State Park Property at Long Beach
Gentlemen:
In regard to the above referenced, enclosed herewith
for your information, is a copy of the deed filed in the
County Clerk's Office and maps showing the premises involved.
As stated in the letter from Town Attorneys Robert W. Tasker,
"It would appear that the State of New York has no title to
lands under Long Beach Bay and Little Bay".
The Board of Southold Town Trustees feels
will be of interest to you.
this'information
Very truly yours,
Henry P. Smith, President
Board ~of Town Trustees
Secretary to Board
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Attachments
cc: Trustees ff
$outhold Town Baymen's Assn.~
Mrs. Ruth Oliva, N.F.E.C. ~
File J
ROBERT W. TASKER
town Attornoy
OFFI('I (..)1 '['"OWN .'\ I':I'ORNEY
425 MAIN ST.
GKEENPORT, L.I., NEW YORK 11944
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(516) 477-1400
July 19. 198zt
$outhold Town Board of Trustees
ToWn-Hall
Southold, New York
Re: Orient State Park Property at Long Beach
Dear Sirs:
I have finally received the results of the search made by Title Guarantee
with respect to the boundary lines of the State Park at Orient, New York.
The search reveals that on August 30, 1929, Harry H. Terry, Rufus W.
Tuthill and Nathaniel A, Luce, as trustees of the common lands of the
Village of Orient, conveyed Long Beach to the People of the State of New
York. The deed was recorded in the Suffolk County Clerk's Office on
Octbber 3, 1929 in Liber 1460 of deeds at page 423~ A copy of such deed is
enclosed herewith~ You will note that in the next to the last paragraph on
page 2 of the deed, the property conveyed is described as follows:
"All that certain tract or parcel of land known as Long Beach in the
Town of Southold, Suffolk .County, New York, bounded on the south
and west by Gardiners Bay, on the north by Orient Harbor, Long
Beach Bay and Little Bay, and on the east by land of Oscar A. Beebe
Est., together with the appurtenances and all the estate and wights of
the parties of the first part in and to said premises and in and to the
lands under water in Orient Harbor and Gardiners Bay."
There was filed with this deed in the County Clerk's Office, maps showing
the premises involved and such maps are enclosed herewith for your
information. You will note that in the description of the premises conveyed,
the ~aid trustees conveyed "all 'of the estate and rights of the parties of
the first part in and to said premises and in and to the lands unoer the
waters ef Orient Harbor and Gardiners Bay. You will note that no title to
underwater land was granted in and to the land under the waters of Long
Beach Bay and Little Bay, which bodies of water constitute what
sometimes referred to as Pete~s Neck or Hal/ock's Bay, and would,
therefore, appear that the~ State of New York has no title to lands under
this bay. tt has title, however, to lands under the waters of Gardners Bay
and Orient Harbor.
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AI~c~, en61osed ,for your information jsa copy of Chapter 24 of the Laws of
'1807 whi~;h aathorizes the ~Ie~.'~n ,of tl~ree tras~ee§ who are to bart.'the
superintendence and manag~me~{~i'o~ the Ibeaches~ meadows and common lands
at Orient.
If the truste~es ha~,e any f,u~ther ques~tions with respect to this mat~er, will
y6u p!~ea~se contact me. '
ROBERT W, TASKER
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