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HomeMy WebLinkAboutTB-12/19/2023 PH 1 1 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD COUNTY OF SUFFOLK : STATE OF NEW YORK 2 ------------------------------------------- X 3 TOWN BOARD 4 REGULAR BOARD MEETING 5 ------------------------------------------- X 6 7 Southold, New York 8 December 19, 2023 9 4 : 30 P .M . 10 11 12 13 14 15 B E F 0 R E : 16 17 SCOTT A . RUSSELL, SUPERVISOR 18 LOUISA P . EVANS , JUSTICE 19 JILL DOHERTY, COUNCILWOMAN 20 BRIAN 0 . MEALY, COUNCILMAN 21 GREG DOROSKI , COUNCILMAN 22 SARAH E . NAPPA, COUNCILWOMAN 23 24 25 DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 2 1 PUBLIC COMMENTS 2 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : I ' m 3 going to ask anybody that would like to 4 comment on any of the specific agenda 5 items to please feel free . Al ? 6 AL KRUPSKI : Hello, Al Krupski , 7 Cutchogue . So Resolution ' s 1069 and 8 1070 relate to a proposed development in 9 Peconic on Carrol Avenue . And I 10 listened to the conversation this 11 morning at the Work Session about 12 accepting an RFP for the -- that ' s not 13 me, by the way . Accepting an RFP for 14 the -- from a developer for a proposal . 15 And there was a lot of discussion about, 16 well , if he ' s going to do this , he ' s 17 going to have to do that, and if he ' s 18 going to do that , then he ' s going to 19 have to do this . And then, especially 20 since it involves a sale of land that 21 the Town owns to a developer, I hope 22 that all the details of what was said at 23 the Work Session are somehow 24 memorialized in some legal document . 25 Because the devil is always in the DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 3 1 details on these things . These projects 2 also tend to go on for a long time . And 3 then people kind of forget what was 4 originally said on December 19, 2023 . 5 And I think it ' s important that all 6 those things be very clear to the 7 community and to the developer to be 8 fair with both of them . 9 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Thank 10 you, Al . 11 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : I should 12 have acknowledged . I have so many 13 acknowledgments . I forgot, Albert had 14 served as my Deputy for about seven 15 years when we served in the Town Board 16 together . Albert, it was , it was an 17 honor serving for you . And you becoming 18 my successor, that ' s a real honor 19 because I think you ' re going to be the 20 best supervisor Southold Town has had in 21 probably a hundred years . 22 JUSTICE LOUISA EVANS : They ' re 23 putting the pressure on . 24 AL KRUPSKI : For the record, I ' ve 25 got big shoes to fill . DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 4 1 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Would 2 anybody else like to address any of the 3 agenda items ? 4 ANNE MURRAY : Anne Murray from East 5 Marion . This housing proposal , we all 6 know the Town really needs affordable 7 housing . So I think it ' s great that 8 Rona and her partner have come forward . 9 However, my own personal opinion is that 10 in the future , the Town should keep the 11 land at least to developers . Because 12 the land, we ' ve seen how prices have 13 skyrocketed the past couple of years . 14 You ' re going to be enriching a developer 15 at some point . You know, where the -- 16 if the Town could find a way to hold 17 onto it and maybe have a housing 18 something or other -- I think it would 19 be in the best interest of the Town . 20 Because we ' ve all seen, you know, in the 21 80 ' s and the 70 ' s , there were these 22 affordable housing projects , people got 23 homes . They churned over . The 24 affordability went away, and look what 25 happened to the Town . So please keep DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 5 1 that in mind for future projects , but 2 I ' m glad to see something is moving 3 forward on Carrol Avenue . And secondly, 4 two things , I wanna thank Sarah Nappa 5 because she was always available to 6 anybody who wanted to speak with her on 7 anything . And the same thing goes for 8 Scott Russell . When I was President of 9 EMCA, he always came when we requested . 10 He always took our phone calls . He 11 always answered his e-mails . He was 12 available all the time . So thank you, 13 Scott, and thank you, Sarah . 14 COUNCILMAN BRIAN MEALY : Thanks , 15 Anne . 16 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : I think 17 just real quick to speak to the issue of 18 ownership . I think that ' s more 19 applicable in a rental/tenant situation . 20 This program that that we had issued the 21 RFP on back in April , that Georgica 22 Green Ventures responded to, is for 23 ownership . And as we discussed this 24 morning, as Legislator Krupski 25 mentioned, one of those details is DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 6 1 affordability in perpetuity . And I 2 think Legislator Krupski ' s comments are 3 well taken, but it ' s important to 4 remember that a majority of the Board 5 will be in public service still as this 6 project is making its way through Zoning 7 and Planning, and it ' ll be our 8 responsibility, including Legislator 9 Krupski to make sure that those things 10 that we said would get done, would get 11 done . So the public has faith both in 12 this project, and our ability to deliver 13 on future projects . So thank you . 14 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : And I 15 want to say that in the house -- 16 developing the housing plan and also the 17 Housing Commission, one thing that 18 always comes up is our mistakes from the 19 past , which everything is going to be in 20 perpetuity . Because when you make 21 something a workforce housing, 22 affordable housing, if it doesn ' t last 23 forever, what good is it? Because it 24 might help somebody today, but we also 25 have to think about helping people DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 7 1 tomorrow . So that ' s something that ' s 2 always forefront in -- when we ' re, you 3 know, reviewing these projects . 4 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Would 5 anybody else like to address the Town 6 Board? 7 RACHEL FLATLEY : Hello . Most of 8 you might remember me, Rachel Flatley, 9 Carrol Avenue . This is Ronan . I 10 apologize for the noise that he ' s 11 making . I just want to, again, thank 12 you . I know I ' ve spoken here many times 13 about the rezoning of Carrol Avenue . 14 And I know it was voted on here not by a 15 supermajority . And with every resident 16 on Carrol Avenue against it . So I just 17 want to make it, again, very clear that 18 we have not forgotten about this . 19 Because it does affect and will affect 20 our day-to-day lives . One thing that I 21 would like to ask, you know, as this 22 moves forward, because it ' s obviously 23 moving forward, is that, you know, it 24 just be very clear to the public what ' s 25 happening, you know . I think some of DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 8 1 these other projects that have been shut 2 down, which, you know, when you guys 3 voted on the change of zone, you made it 4 clear that it was approved because it 5 has not been approved any place else . 6 So we essentially, as residents of the 7 area, drew the short straw . And we have 8 this in our backyard now . That , you 9 know, you take into consideration the 10 people who live there, the people who 11 have invested their life savings in 12 their homes . We have mentioned before 13 that I think there ' s 16 or 17 people who 14 live on the block . And adding in 15 anything from 20 plus houses is going to 16 change the character of the neighborhood 17 and directly affect the people who live 18 there . I think as much as I want the 19 property to stay as park land, because 20 that was what it was originally 21 purchased for, I understand that I 22 essentially have been shut down from 23 that . Still pending litigation . But , I 24 think as residents , that we should have 25 a say in how this moves forward . You DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 9 1 know, and if the homeownership is one 2 thing that as owners that we would like 3 to see if it does move forward, but it 4 needs to be clear that it will not 5 change from that . That it will not turn 6 into a rental of any sort . Whether it 7 happens last minute or down the road or 8 whether that ' s actually the plan . Kind 9 of as a bait and switch, which is what 10 this whole project essentially was from 11 the beginning . Went from a pool to now 12 affordable housing without anyone ' s -- 13 I ' m sure, again, unless you survey 14 people, they still don ' t know that this 15 is happening . So I just want to make it 16 clear to everyone that as residents , we 17 have not forgotten about this . We will 18 be here every session to continue to 19 fight for our rights as people who live 20 on the block, and have invested and are 21 raising their families there . Thank 22 you . 23 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Just to 24 speak to the issue of ownership, I think 25 it ' s important and you ' ll see this in DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 10 1 the resolution itself . What we are 2 approving is for ownership . This was 3 one of the details that was discussed 4 this morning that Legislator Krupski 5 raised that are going to be really 6 important here . Our RFP that was issued 7 was for ownership . And the resolution 8 that we ' re approving is for ownership . 9 And I will make a personal commitment to 10 you, that this project , if it ' s going to 11 happen, is going to be ownership . 12 RACHEL FLATLEY : Thank you, sir . 13 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : No , it ' s 14 all good . 15 RACHEL FLATLEY : Were there any 16 other proposals or was this the only 17 proposal? 18 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : This was 19 the only proposal we received . 20 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : And we 21 put the RFP out for 60 days . And when 22 we put it out , we put it out to all the 23 papers . And make sure all the people 24 that do this kind of construction know 25 that it ' s out there . And this is the DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 11 1 only one that came back . 2 GORDON MURPHY : So it ' s closed 3 currently . So this is -- you have 4 accepted this bid? 5 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Yes . 6 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : That ' s 7 what the resolution is for tonight . 8 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : It ' s not 9 a bid . It ' s just accepting the proposal 10 as submitted . I will say that the 11 proposal uses the word tenant many, many 12 times . And if it ' s the intent of this 13 Board to make sure it ' s ownership, ask 14 the applicant to redraft it, to just use 15 the word owners , ownership . 16 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : The 17 proposal gave ownership or rentals and 18 we discussed today, and majority said we 19 want ownership . So that ' s what we 20 intend to -- there ' s going to be papers 21 drawn up by our attorney . That will be 22 an agreement . And that will detail more 23 than the resolution . But the resolution 24 has to happen first before those details 25 can be ironed out . DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 12 1 RACHEL FLATLEY : The public has no 2 say on accepting this ? 3 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : No, no . 4 That ' s not how it normally happens . 5 RACHEL FLATLEY : How many units ? 6 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : We 7 don ' t know at this point . Because there 8 has to go through certain approvals and 9 has to go through Zoning and Planning . 10 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : As it 11 stands though, right now it is 32 units 12 as we discussed originally with this 13 project . And it would be my preference 14 to have 32 for sale units there , on this 15 site . But it ' s gonna make its way 16 through ZBA and through Planning . And 17 we ' ll see . But it is the sale of the 18 property will be contingent on these 19 approvals and contingent on it being an 20 ownership site for this . 21 RACHEL FLATLEY : So I don ' t know if 22 I can wrap my head right -- how you ' re 23 going to fit 32 units on that parcel of 24 land, but, again as -- speaking for the 25 residents of Carrol Avenue, if you can DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 13 1 just keep in mind the number of units or 2 houses that are currently on that block . 3 And 32 is double that . So you ' re -- you 4 know, really adding to our resources or 5 taking away from our resources and that 6 is a significant number . When there ' s 7 16 houses on the block . And Peconic is 8 super small you know . Whether they ' re 9 high end houses or low income houses . 10 To me, that doesn ' t matter . I mean, 32 11 is a significant number . And you ' re 12 just changing the entire landscape of 13 our neighborhood like that . 14 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : The 15 current code only allows 21 houses if 16 they ' re going to be built for ownership . 17 Only 21 . Not 32 . 32 would require 18 approval by the Zoning Board of Appeals , 19 which cannot be presumed . If the Town 20 Board again is sincere in its effort to 21 make sure that it ' s owner occupied and 22 ownership units , then we should ask the 23 applicant to redraft the proposal and 24 adopt it based on the 21 . 25 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : The 21 DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 14 1 is under rentals , and if it ' s done by a 2 regular subdivision, you can get a lot 3 more units in than 32 . 4 COUNCILMAN BRIAN MEALY : Yeah, I 5 wanted to make that point . 6 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Under 7 the current code , you ' re only required 8 to have 10 , 000 square feet per unit . By 9 planning staff calculations , the yield 10 would only be 21 units or less for home 11 ownership . Not for rentals . 12 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Thank 13 you for coming in when you didn ' t have a 14 babysitter . We understand . Thank you . 15 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Anybody 16 else like to address any of the agenda 17 items? 18 (No Response ) . 19 (Whereupon, the meeting continued 20 on to the Resolutions at this time . ) 21 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 22 CHAPTER 215 SEWERS & SEWAGE 23 DISPOSAL FEES 24 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : So 25 tonight ' s first Public Hearing . And I ' m DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 15 1 reading a summary here that Missy 2 provided me on my phone . Thank you . Is 3 to consider certain changes to Chapter 4 215, Sewers and Sewage Disposal of the 5 Town Code . The proposed amendments to 6 be considered by the Board is to update 7 fees charged in Chapter 215 . The full 8 text of the proposed law can be found on 9 the Town ' s website, and posted on the 10 Clerk ' s bulletin board . In the folder 11 here , I have a copy of the resolution 12 setting this Public Hearing . An 13 affidavit of the posting the notice on 14 the bulletin board in the back . Copy of 15 the legal notice , and affidavit of the 16 publication and a copy of the ad in the 17 Suffolk Times . And also in The Day . 18 That ' s what I got . 19 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Anybody 20 like to address the Town Board on this 21 particular Local Law? 22 JUSTICE LOUISA EVANS : Can you 23 let -- if people can hear us on Zoom, if 24 you want to speak, you should raise your 25 hand . DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 16 1 GORDON MURPHY : Hi . My name is 2 Gordon Murphy . 3 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Yes , hi , 4 Gordon . 5 GORDON MURPHY : Sorry . It ' s 6 difficult to hear you folks on the on 7 the Zoom call . Not that I ' m questioning 8 the raise in the fees , it ' s just that it 9 seemed to be rather accelerated, and no 10 notice was given to the constituents out 11 here on Fishers . We know that we ' ve 12 been needing it . Michael Collins has 13 been verbally telling us that we need to 14 raise the fees for many years , but it 15 was never put into place . And now it 16 seems to be quite a bit of a rush . The 17 Town used to provide quarterly and 18 annual reports on the Sewer District . 19 Those have faded away . We have no idea 20 what the status of the bond is that was 21 used . We ' re not sure when . There ' s a 22 lot of questions with the Sewer 23 District, and that I think we all should 24 you know have to have a level of 25 transparency that we ' re not seeing out DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 17 1 here at the Sewer District . We know it 2 needs help . We ' re all for that , but I 3 think we just need more reporting . 4 Thank you . 5 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : I would 6 suggest that if you ' re unhappy or if you 7 think that the current actions of the 8 current Sewer District Manager lack 9 transparency, the simple answer would be 10 to ask them to step down from the 11 position . He ' d be more than willing to . 12 JUSTICE LOUISA EVANS : Maybe , 13 Scott, you can go through what Michael 14 Collins gave you, is why the fees are 15 going up? Because that would help . And 16 also what the last bond was for back in 17 2000 -- I can ' t remember the last bond, 18 what the date was . 19 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Last 20 bond was 2007 , 2008 . That was for pump 21 station upgrades and for a new generator 22 and some other various repairs . The 23 fees themselves have not been increased 24 since 2007 . Prior to that was 1994 . 25 The septic tanks are about to be pumped DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 18 1 out at about $30 , 000-$ 40 , 000 at a 2 minimum . The fees -- the only option 3 would be -- actually, they ' re only 4 maintenance . Even if we had the option 5 of bonding out, most of the budget would 6 be paying debt service . 7 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: To be 8 fair, I don ' t think that the person is 9 questioning the raising of the fees , but 10 it ' s the procedure of which this was 11 rolled out . And I would just say that I 12 understand exactly what they ' re saying . 13 And I would apologize for the lack of 14 transparency that they received their 15 bills before this Public Hearing was 16 being held . And that was a misstep and 17 a miscommunication on our part . 18 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : I would 19 agree with Sarah and I think we should 20 look forward to, you know, solidifying 21 our procedure to make sure there ' s 22 better communication in our process . 23 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : I would 24 concede that . Yes , I jump the gun on 25 the reasons , and what we ' ll do is make DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 19 1 sure you get the reasons . But I will 2 say that Councilwoman Nappa is 1000 3 correct . And that ' s probably where I 4 should have limited my comment . She ' s 5 right . The process was what -- it was 6 not rolled out well . It was adopted as 7 part of the budget this past year by the 8 entire Town Board; however, you should 9 have received the advance notice . We ' ll 10 accept that . I agree with Councilwoman 11 Nappa 1000 . 12 JUSTICE LOUISA EVANS : And I also 13 agree that we should start back having 14 quarterly reports . I ' m not sure when 15 that fell off, but I remember we were 16 getting them. And I think that ' s a 17 valuable tool for us all to have . 18 MS . MISSY : I have another one . 19 Jane Ahrens . Jane, you have permission 20 to speak . 21 JUSTICE LOUISA EVANS : Jane, you 22 need to un-mute . 23 JANE AHREN : My name is Jane 24 Ahrens . I agree with everything that 25 everyone said regarding the bill . We DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 20 1 understand that it had to come, but it 2 came before -- the process was wrong as 3 Gordon mentioned . But at this point, I 4 think many of us who are -- live in the 5 Sewer District on Fishers Island would 6 like to know -- this rate went up 1000 . 7 Is there a possibility that they can 8 extend the payments due over quarterly 9 period during the year 2024 or are we 10 just stuck paying half of it in January 11 and half later? 12 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Yeah, I 13 -- Billy asked me that a couple of weeks 14 ago . I do not believe that that ' s 15 possible because the budget is so lean 16 and so tight, that the Sewer District 17 Manager needs the money to get the work 18 done now . Particularly the pump out of 19 -- 20 JANE AHREN : Okay . Then we should 21 have gotten notification that part of 22 our personal budget was going to go up 23 1000 in 2024 . We had no notice . I ' m 24 just asking for a little bit of help . 25 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 21 1 Understood . 2 JANE AHREN : On behalf of all the 3 seventy something of us . 4 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : And was 5 the -- I thought the issue was phasing 6 it in that we said no on? There was 7 something -- was it ever discussed 8 breaking it into potentially quarterly 9 payments? I think it could warrant 10 further clarity on that point . If I 11 understand the question correctly . It ' s 12 not waiving them for a certain amount of 13 time . It ' s actually just breaking it 14 into four installments . 15 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: Maybe we 16 should check on that . Since we ' re going 17 to leave this Public Hearing open, we 18 could check and see if that can be done . 19 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : We ' ll 20 look into it and get an answer for you, 21 Jane . 22 JUSTICE LOUISA EVANS : And I think 23 the Town Board, when we set the Public 24 Hearing, agreed that if we couldn ' t do 25 that , we could at least have a grace DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 22 1 period for paying the first payment . 2 But hopefully we can do quarterly 3 payment . 4 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: 30 day 5 grace period . 6 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Is that 7 paid as part of the tax bill ? Or is 8 that paid separately? 9 JANE AHREN : I might add that we 10 can ' t hear anything . 11 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : I ' m 12 sorry, we ' re just actually just raising 13 some questions so that we can gather 14 them and then certainly try to get you 15 the answers as quickly as we can . 16 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : So in 17 other words , Jane, we ' re gonna look into 18 it and see what we can do for the folks 19 on Fishers Island as far as when they 20 pay . 21 JANE AHREN : I ' m sorry, we can ' t 22 hear on Zoom to answer your questions . 23 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : We ' ll 24 have Louisa text you . We ' re going to 25 leave the Public Hearing open so we can DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 23 1 be able to talk to you better the next 2 time . The Wi-Fi is not good in Southold 3 today . 4 JANE AHREN : Okay . Thank you . 5 MS . MISSY : Anyone else in Zoom, 6 please feel free to raise your hands ? 7 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Anyone 8 else want to make a comment? 9 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Anybody? 10 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Raise 11 your hand on Zoom if you do? 12 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Well , 13 let me just assure you, we ' ll get the 14 answers to the questions you ' ve raised . 15 So we ' ll make sure that you get all the 16 information as to why the raise needed 17 to go up . 18 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: Do we 19 need to make a motion to leave it open? 20 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Yes . 21 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: Okay . 22 So I ' ll make a motion to -- 23 PAUL DECHANCE : May I suggest again 24 maybe that the Board consider closing 25 its subject to written comments within a DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 24 1 time period? And then ultimately the 2 Board can make a motion to allow for 3 payments in whatever manner the Board 4 decides . It will just be then a closed 5 Public Hearing subject to comment, so 6 we ' re not carrying it over into the new 7 year . 8 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: Okay . 9 So I make a motion to close the hearing 10 subjects to written comments for 30 11 days . 12 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Second . 13 JUSTICE LOUISA EVANS : Can I also 14 though? The bill people got was due 15 January lst . So I think if nothing 16 else , we should extend the first payment 17 date . 18 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: Well , we 19 did that already . We ' ve already done 20 the 30-day grace period . 21 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : We did a 22 30-day grace period . 23 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: So 24 actually on that motion, I would make it 25 that we close the Public Hearing, except DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 25 1 for written comment for 30 days . 2 Reiterating the 30-day grace period . 3 And then also , to be decided by the Town 4 Board, how the payments can be done at a 5 later date . 6 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : And 7 then effectively communicated to us . 8 JUSTICE LOUISA EVANS : We ' re only 9 leaving the hearing open for two weeks , 10 right? 11 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : The 12 hearing is closed subject to written 13 comments for 30 days . 14 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Yeah, I 15 think that ' s a good idea . 16 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: So 17 moved . 18 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Second . 19 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : All in 20 favor? 21 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Aye . 22 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Aye . 23 COUNCILMAN BRIAN MEALY : Aye . 24 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: Aye . 25 JUSTICE LOUISA EVANS : Aye . DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 26 1 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Aye . 2 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 3 CHAPTER 148 FLOOD DAMAGE PROTECTION 4 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Tonight ' s 5 second public hearing, and again I ' m 6 going to read a summary on my phone . So 7 apologies . Is to consider certain 8 changes to Chapter 148 , Flood Damage 9 Prevention of the Town Code . The 10 proposed amendment to be considered by 11 the Board adopts the revised letter of 12 map revision LOMR, prepared by New York 13 State DEC, is required to maintain 14 national flood insurance program 15 participation, including the replacement 16 of existing floodplain management 17 regulations and incorporating updated 18 New York State program changes , 19 including revised definitions , rules , 20 and regulations . The full text of the 21 proposed law can be found on the Town ' s 22 website and posted on the Clerk ' s 23 bulletin board . In the folder here, I 24 have a copy of the resolution setting 25 this Public Hearing, an affidavit that DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 27 1 it was posted on the Town Clerk ' s 2 bulletin board signed by our Town Clerk 3 Denis Noncarrow . A copy of the legal 4 notice, a copy of the affidavit of 5 publication along with a copy of the ad 6 in the Suffolk Times , and in The Day . 7 That ' s what I got . 8 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : I would 9 invite anybody that would like to 10 comment on this particular Local Law, to 11 please feel free? 12 (No Response ) . 13 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : I make a 14 motion we close the Public Hearing . 15 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Second . 16 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : All in 17 favor? 18 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Aye . 19 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Aye . 20 COUNCILMAN BRIAN MEALY : Aye . 21 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: Aye . 22 JUSTICE LOUISA EVANS : Aye . 23 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Aye . 24 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 25 PUBLIC COMMENTS DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 28 1 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : All 2 right . I ' m going to invite anybody that 3 would like to address the Town Board on 4 any issue, to please feel free . 5 PETER HARRIS : Good evening, 6 members of the Town Board . Peter 7 Harris , 212 Knapp Place, Greenport . 8 This is a -- I knew this was going to 9 happen, Scott . You ' re going to make us 10 cry . Former 12-year highway 11 superintendent during Scott ' s period of 12 supervisor . I cannot stress what a 13 great working relationship we have . The 14 door was open . I peeked in . I said, 15 "Got a minute? " The door was always 16 open, come in . And many, many times , you 17 know, when the political machines work 18 and just so happens , Scott was on Team 19 A . I was on Team B . But you know what, 20 there was no Team A, Team B, because we 21 had that kind of working relationship . 22 He took a lot of heat many times during 23 Board meetings . Something that the 24 Highway Department had done under my 25 leadership . He gave kudos to me and my DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 29 1 department . And he took a lot of heat 2 from his own party . "What the hell are 3 you doing? " I ' m saying good things 4 about this guy . Well , you know, after 5 the election ' s over, it ' s not A or B . 6 It ' s a team. It ' s always supposed to be 7 a team. And that ' s what Scott Russell 8 has been his entire time sitting up on 9 that dais . It ' s always been what ' s best 10 for Southold . Not for it , you know, not 11 for it -- A Team or B Team. And it 12 was -- he was the first person I told 13 when I made up my mind not to run . And 14 he was -- he was , " you got to stay . You 15 got to stay . " And I said, you know, if 16 it was , if it was only for you, I would 17 stay . But the picture ' s a lot bigger 18 than just you and I . And I had to do 19 what I thought was best for me 20 personally, professionally, family . So 21 Scott, you know, you will be missed . 22 And like Albert says , he has big shoes 23 to fill . He will be able to , because he 24 will represent this Town the same that 25 you have during your tenure as a Town DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 30 1 official . Now on a lighter note, I ' ve 2 got to tell one story of what happened 3 during the course of my 12 years as a 4 Highway Superintendent . 5 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Only 6 one? 7 PETER HARRIS : This is the good 8 one . This is the good one . Okay . Goes 9 back to our late Pat Finnegan, Town 10 Attorney . And we had a situation in 11 Nassau Point where we had a contour of a 12 road goes this way, this way, and this 13 way . And on a heavy rainfall , all this 14 water would go down a dead-end road, and 15 it would wash it out into the Great 16 Peconic Bay, and it would make it 17 anywhere from a six to eight foot deep 18 ravine . And at the time, I said to my 19 deputy, I said, "What do you do? What 20 have you been doing? I mean, this can ' t 21 be the first time this ever happened . " 22 Yeah, we just truck fill in, fill it 23 back up . Smooth it out . I said, "Well , 24 you know, it ' s got to be a better . " So, 25 came up and we devised a storm drainage DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 31 1 system to be installed . To catch the 2 water . Have it percolate back into the 3 ground, and not just a flush out into 4 the great Peconic Bay . We build the 5 system. System worked great . Just so 6 happens , New York State DEC, the 7 gentleman that was in charge , him with 8 Trustee Jim King was taking a ride out 9 to check something out on Nassau Point . 10 He says , "Hey, I want to show you this 11 drain system that the Highway Department 12 put in . " They go down there and right 13 away the guy goes , "Oh, this is no good . 14 This is no good . " He said, " it ends up 15 within 300 feet of the water . " So they 16 come back, and he files a $ 10 , 000 -- 17 he ' s going to put a $ 10 , 000 fine against 18 the Town of Southold . So Pat Finnegan 19 contacts me, listen, we have to 20 Setauket . We got to go to the State 21 University at their offices , and we got 22 to have a hearing . And the whole time 23 we ' re writing this , it ' s now Pete, I 24 know you ' re a very strong -- you ' re a 25 very strong willed person, and you say DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 32 1 what you whatever you feel is what you 2 want to say . So I ' m just going to ask 3 you, please just sit there and just 4 listen . I said, Pat, I ' m going to 5 listen . I ' m going to do exactly what 6 you said . We arrive . We go into his 7 office, and the first thing this 8 gentleman does , he takes his service 9 revolver out and he sets it on the 10 table . 11 JUSTICE LOUISA EVANS : I know 12 exactly who this is . And I ' m looking at 13 this guy, and Pat ' s looking at me, and 14 she just taps me on the leg, and I ' m 15 good . So I ' m sitting there, and he 16 starts it . And I ' m looking on the wall 17 up behind him with all the different 18 certificates and this and that of his 19 knowledge of his job . And he says to 20 me, he says , "am I boring you? " I said, 21 " absolutely not . " He says , but "you ' re 22 not looking at me, you ' re looking up . " 23 I says , " I ' m just admiring all these 24 different certificates that you have on 25 the wall . " He says , " Pretty damn DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 33 1 impressive , ain ' t it? " I says , "Yep, 2 but you ' re missing one . " And Pat, she 3 just grabs my leg ' cause she knows what 4 I ' m gonna say . And he says , "What 5 certificate am I missing? " I said, 6 "Certificate of Common Sense ' cause you 7 don ' t have any . " I said, the system 8 that my department built and installed 9 and works , and you have the audacity 10 that you ' re going to find the Town 11 $ 10 , 000 because the bubble pipe ends up 12 within -- I said I got eight drains and 13 they ' re piped together and it keeps 14 going chambers so that the water 15 percolates . All the residue is stayed 16 inside . It ' s not going into the water 17 and you ' re telling me I don ' t know what 18 I ' m talking about . You ' re the guy that 19 is the Conservation Department, but yet 20 you ' re telling me I don ' t know what I ' m 21 doing . So he turns around and he says 22 to Pat, go back to your Town Board and 23 you better hire an engineering firm to 24 go do engineering study . To come up 25 with a better plan . Town goes and they DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 34 1 hire an engineering company . They come . 2 They do the plan . The plan comes back . 3 We couldn ' t design a better plan than 4 what the Highway Superintendent had 5 already done . So that was probably one 6 of my biggest highlights of being the 7 Highway Superintendent . The fact that a 8 Town Board stuck behind me . I gave my 9 Town Attorney a heart attack almost, but 10 the fact that , you know, intimidation by 11 other forms of government was trying 12 to -- that didn ' t happen . Again, 13 Supervisor, thank you so much for your 14 tenure as supervisor . 15 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Thanks , 16 Pete . Just so you know, Pete, we stood 17 behind you so much, we did the budget 18 mod to pay for the fine . Would anybody 19 else like to address the Town Board? 20 Yeah, of course . 21 THERESA MCCASKEY : Hi , Theresa 22 McCaskey, and of course with the 23 Southold Town Aircraft Test Committee . 24 So I just want to come up here and say 25 thank you to the entire Board, and the DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 35 1 legal team . And one of my members right 2 here in the committee is here . So on 3 behalf of our Aircraft Noise Committee, 4 thank you for supporting us for so many 5 years . Sarah, thanks for the e-mails . 6 The late evening meetings that you try 7 to do around your family and answered 8 our e-mails . And I look forward to 9 working with the Board . And Scott , you 10 know, I was very persistent . Our entire 11 committee was very persistent . Thank 12 you . And I know it ' s -- one point the 13 Town Board was like , why would they 14 listen to what we have to say? Because 15 we were right . And we ' re going to 16 continue fighting . It ' s not over, but I 17 think quality of life has gotten better . 18 So whoever I ' m going to work with, I ' m 19 going to miss you dearly, but whoever 20 we ' re going to be working with, I warn 21 you now, please use kind words . Because 22 Sarah and Scott, like, passionate . You 23 know, maybe persistent . You know, we ' re 24 committed to protect Southold Town just 25 as much as you all are . We live in a DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 36 1 very unique place, and I ' ve said that a 2 million times , and they ' re just going to 3 keep hearing me say that . So -- and 4 that ' s why we do what we do . So thank 5 you . And I also want to mention that I 6 don ' t think you guys got enough credit 7 for this . I ' m just following the note 8 about the AAA Bond ratings by Moody . 9 Congratulations on all your hard work 10 and doing that for Southold Town . I 11 don ' t think you guys got enough credit 12 for that so . And finally, Happy 13 Holidays to you all . And again, I look 14 forward to working with everybody in 15 2024 , and including our Legislator, Al 16 Krupski . I hope you will be able to 17 work with us and Anne Smith . So thank 18 you . 19 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: Theresa, 20 I just want to thank you too . Because I 21 think that you just are such a force . 22 And you just don ' t let up, and you are 23 fully responsible for the progress that 24 we ' ve made regarding the aircraft noise 25 issue . And you still continue to, you DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 37 1 know, send the e-mails and to all the 2 people and drive the committee . And now 3 you ' re on the task force as well . So I 4 just really thank you as well for your 5 service . Thank you . 6 THERESA MCCASKEY : Thanks very 7 much . But again, use kind words , 8 passionate , persistent . And he has 9 received a slew of my e-mails . And I ' m 10 sure he ' s seeing the 1 : 00 A. M . , and 11 saying, my god . But yeah, we ' re all 12 entitled to sleep . So when a helicopter 13 comes over at 12 o ' clock at night, you 14 betcha I ' ve got something to say . Or a 15 jet, or a sea plane , unwelcome guests 16 servicing other areas and not our area . 17 We don ' t benefit in any way . And that ' s 18 okay . That ' s okay . We don ' t need the 19 noise of pollution . So thank you 20 everyone . Happy Holidays . 21 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: Thank 22 you . Happy holidays . 23 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Who else 24 would like to address the Town Board on 25 -- Chris . Chris first and then you, DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 38 1 Nick . 2 CHRIS NORTH : I ' m Chris North from 3 525 Greenport . I want to thank Scott 4 Russell for everything he has done and 5 allowing me to serve on the -- before 6 seven years ago, I was on the anti-bots 7 task force . And I was the youngest 8 member . I want to thank you, Scott, for 9 allowing me to appreciate the serve on 10 that committee . And now I ' m on the PAC 11 Committee, and I want to thank Sarah 12 Nappa for the working group and all the 13 work and dedication work we did with 14 that work . And thank you, Scott Russell 15 for everything you ' ve done for the Town . 16 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: Thanks , 17 Chris . 18 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Thanks , 19 Chris . 20 NICK DEEGAN : Hi , Nick Deegan from 21 Mattituck . I just wanted clarification 22 on the -- wasn ' t around for the meeting, 23 the Work Session . So on the flooding 24 issue that you ' re looking into, or it 25 was part of the public hearing? DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 39 1 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : I think 2 that ' s part of the MS4 . That ' s just an 3 update of the MS4 . 4 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : I don ' t 5 think we had public hearing . So the New 6 York State -- We have a SPDES Permit, 7 which every town has to abide by from 8 New York State laws . And they changed 9 some of the laws on us . And just when 10 we were thinking that we were making 11 progress , they broadened our expansion 12 of area, of where we have to qualify . 13 And so it just made more work and harder 14 work for the town . So that ' s what was 15 said to us at the Work Session today . 16 Also that was said is both the 17 Superintendent of Highways and the 18 engineer are working very hard on 19 cutting off all our outflow pipes to our 20 creeks and bays . And they have done -- 21 what did they say, 450 of outflow pipes 22 are closed . And they ' re going to 23 continue working on them. It ' s going to 24 take years . And if we get to 750 of our 25 outflow pipes closed, then we do not DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 40 1 have to be under the SPDES Permit . So 2 we ' re working towards getting out from 3 under their feet . It will take a few 4 more years , but we ' ve made some quite a 5 bit of progress , and they gave us more 6 work to do . So we have more work . So 7 that was the gist of today ' s Work 8 Session . 9 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Just a 10 quick clarification, there ' s a program 11 called the MS4 program that has to do 12 with municipal drainage . And that ' s a 13 Federal and State program . The problem 14 is a lot of the work is administrative . 15 It requires a great deal of work . We ' ve 16 done a lot of drainage work in the town . 17 We ' ve improved water quality . The 18 problem is the administrative side is 19 very cumbersome . Particularly for urban 20 areas . And for some reason, they ' ve 21 classified us as an urban area . Not a 22 rural area . So the work here is to show 23 them all the work is done and start 24 calling us what we are , which is a rural 25 area . So there ' s a lot of bureaucracy DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 41 1 to it . 2 NICK DEEGAN : Yeah, I can imagine . 3 Just wondered about the farm runoff . 4 Would that be encompassed in all this 5 reports and work? Well , the farms 6 runoff onto the roads and go down into 7 the creeks and ponds? That would be 8 done like with berms or -- and like that 9 would be -- 10 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : By 11 Federal Law, we are not allowed to 12 impose drainage code or drainage, any 13 type of drainage restrictions on 14 agricultural farmland, by Federal Law . 15 They ' re exempt from all drainage code , 16 all drainage laws . 17 NICK DEEGAN : Okay . 18 PAUL DECHANCE : Mr . Deegan, if you 19 have any issues you ' d like to discuss 20 with the Law Department, please feel 21 free to contact my office . We can have 22 it sit down and whatever issues that you 23 have , if you want to discuss , I can do 24 that with you . 25 NICK DEEGAN : Okay . Thank you, DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 42 1 sir . 2 PAUL DECHANCE : Thank you . 3 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : If 4 that ' s a drainage issue, because we have 5 good success talking to the farmers . 6 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: I was 7 just going to say that . We usually just 8 work with the farmer directly . And 9 they ' re usually very receptive . 10 NICK DEEGAN : Yeah, I ' m taking a 11 Wolf Pond of course right now . You know 12 and they farms up the road from . And 13 I ' d like to see the swale and the 14 ( inaudible ) water before it gets into 15 the pond . And you know bias swales 16 should be used a lot more as a for sure 17 of the farm runoff . And I think we have 18 a great system there at the pond where 19 we just need to make it work . We had it 20 working for a year until it wasn ' t . So 21 I would like to get , you know, picked 22 that up again somewhere down the road . 23 Thank you . Anyway, thank you, Scott and 24 Sarah, for your service . And I guess my 25 regret is I should have asked for more DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 43 1 over the years . You know, thank you . 2 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: Thanks , 3 Nick . 4 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Would 5 anybody else like to address the Town 6 Board on any issue? 7 ANNE MURRAY : I didn ' t notice till 8 I was reading this , that you haven ' t 9 gotten an appraisal on the Carrol Avenue 10 property? That doesn ' t sound right to 11 me . And so before you agree and do any 12 more legal papers , and selling it to the 13 developers , I think you should 14 absolutely get an appraisal . I think 15 this $500 , 000 price seems a little low 16 to me, but I ' m not in real estate . And 17 do you remember, Scott , what the Town 18 paid for it? ' Cause I know you did 19 bonds -- 20 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : $ 750 , 000 21 though . 22 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: $ 750 , 000 23 though, but it was 10 acres . This is 24 half the parcel . 25 ANNE MURRAY : So you ' re keeping DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 44 1 half of it . Okay, but still -- 2 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Correct . 3 The appraisal would -- should take place 4 right prior to the closing of the 5 property . The appraisal should take 6 place . Not right now, but there is 7 none . 8 ANNE MURRAY : Okay . Just as long 9 as you get one . Thank you . 10 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : But 11 there ' s no requirement based on this 12 resolution to get one . So value is 13 already established . 14 Who else would like to address the 15 Town Board on any issue? 16 VINCENT ORLANDO : Good evening, 17 Mr . Supervisor, Town Board Members , Town 18 Clerk, I just have a few issues to go 19 over tonight . I ' m just kidding . This 20 is a list I have to get done before 21 Christmas . I just wanted to come here 22 and thank you, Mr . Supervisor, for 30 23 years of dedication to this Town . I ' ve 24 known you for over 20 years . We watched 25 our children grow up together . I ' ve DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 45 1 served as a public servant as you for 16 2 years . Four years with the Zoning Board 3 of Appeals , four years with, as a 4 councilman sitting with you, with Mr . 5 Krupski , Mr . Whitcomb, Mr . Ruhlin, 6 Louisa Evans , Councilwoman Evans , and as 7 Mr . Harris said, we are all A' s and B ' s , 8 but we got so much done in those four 9 years because we all cared about the 10 Town during those years . We had so much 11 legislation . Two that popped into my 12 head were detached affordable housing . 13 I ' m sorry, detached accessory garages . 14 So you can put a bot into it to help 15 young people someplace to go . And dark 16 skies . They popped into my head while I 17 was sitting here . We did that year -- 18 many other things that came out just so 19 well . And also I enjoyed our 20 conversations when I came before you as 21 Superintendent of Highways . Talking 22 about, of course , this happened with Mr . 23 Harris said, it ' s also , we want more 24 money and we want more trucks . 25 Sometimes I got it . Sometimes I didn ' t . DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 46 1 We always had a discussion about it and 2 eventually figured out that I was right 3 and you were wrong . But at the end, we 4 got some trucks and not . But then while 5 walking around town, people would say, 6 but you ' re on the same A Team as Scott, 7 why didn ' t you? And I said, Scott truly 8 is physically responsible for the town . 9 And you are a problem solver, not a 10 problem maker . Like I hope that I am as 11 well . And you didn ' t say, no . You said, 12 no, let ' s try and do something next 13 year . Let ' s try and do this . Let ' s try 14 and do something that . So it was always 15 in the explanation, which you cared 16 about the town . Just because we ' re on 17 the same team . You didn ' t cough over 18 trucks and equipment to me . And I 19 appreciate that very much . I thank you 20 for all your service . And it ' s been 21 enjoyable working for you . And getting 22 to know you, as Albert said, the newly 23 elect supervisor . You really get to 24 know you when you ' re on the Town Board 25 together because we ' re in the trenches DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 47 1 every day . And you really get to know 2 your philosophy and thoughts on Southold 3 Town and you were Mr . Southold Town . I 4 appreciate that . Trying to keep it the 5 way it is , and thank you so much for 6 that . 7 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Thank 8 you . 9 VINCENT ORLANDO : And also 10 Councilwoman Nappa, I want to thank you 11 as well . I did get to know you when I 12 was on the Transportation Commission 13 with you as Superintendent of Highways 14 and as we chatted this summer . When you 15 came before during 20-21 , which was 16 crazy influx of people . You really came 17 back with the compassion of trying to 18 help people walk safely, jog safely, 19 ride a bike safely, but unfortunately 20 you probably found out that I already 21 knew . You taught past legislation for 22 good neighbors and common sense , as 23 Mr . Harris said as well . But you came 24 representing the people and you were 25 thoughtful about it . And you were DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 48 1 compassionate about it . And I also saw 2 that when I was sitting here waiting to 3 go before the Town Board . When a topic 4 came up about whatever issue it was , you 5 were prepared . You did your homework . 6 And you spoke to a person, whatever the 7 topic was . And you were ready for it . 8 So you can see the compassion . You just 9 didn ' t show up that day . You did your 10 homework . So you could ask responsible 11 questions to whatever the topic was that 12 day . And I appreciate that . And I know 13 you ' re eventually going to move and I 14 won ' t see you as much as the neighbor, 15 but I wish you all the best . And Mr . 16 Supervisor, both of you, I wish you all 17 the best . And whenever you go forward 18 with, and Scott, you have my cell phone 19 number . You want to do lunch one time, 20 feel free . Give me a shout . I ' ll buy . 21 And I wish you all a merry -- 22 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : I ' ll be 23 out of work . 24 VINCENT ORLANDO : So I wish you all 25 a Merry -- Happy Holidays , safe holidays DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 49 1 and God Bless you all . 2 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: Thank 3 you, Vinnie . 4 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Anybody 5 else like to address the Town Board? 6 ERIC MCCLURE : Eric McClure, 7 Mattituck . I just wanted to add to the 8 thanks to both of you, Scott and Sarah, 9 for always having an open door and being 10 willing to listen . I appreciate your 11 concerns , and trying to work with me and 12 my neighbors to manage the noise issues 13 with Strong ' s Water Club . I wanted to 14 try to get out ahead of some of the 15 issues for the next year, but in the 16 spirit of the season, I ' ll wait until 17 the supervisor-elect and the council 18 member can take office . But you both 19 have given a lot to the town, and I ' m 20 appreciative of that, and as I know we 21 all are , and wish you best of luck in 22 whatever endeavors you tackle post 23 -elected life . 24 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: Great . 25 Thanks , Eric . DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 50 1 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Who else 2 would like to address the Town Board on 3 any issue? 4 (No Response ) . 5 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: Make a 6 motion to adjourn . 7 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Second . 8 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : All in 9 favor? 10 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Aye . 11 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Aye . 12 COUNCILMAN BRIAN MEALY : Aye . 13 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: Aye . 14 JUSTICE LOUISA EVANS : Aye . 15 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Aye . 16 17 (Whereupon, the meeting concluded . ) 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 DECEMBER 19, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 51 1 C E R T I F I C A T I O N 2 3 I , Jessica DiLallo, a Notary Public 4 for and within the State of New York, do 5 hereby certify : 6 THAT , the within transcript is a 7 true record of said Board Meeting . 8 I further certify that I am not 9 related either by blood or marriage to 10 any of the parties to this action; and 11 that I am in no way interested in the 12 outcome of this matter . 13 IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto 14 set my hand this day, December 19, 2023 . 15 16 17 ( Lesi ca iLallo ) 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25