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HomeMy WebLinkAboutZBA-01/11/1991 HEARING - TRANSCRIPT OF HEARING SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF APPEALS REGULAR MEETING OF FRIDAY, JANUARY 11, 1991 Board Members Present: Chairman, Gerard P. goehringer Members: Doyen, Grigonis and Dinizio Absent: Charles grigonis Jr Linda Kowalski, Z.B.A. Secretary and approximately 45 persons in the audience. Appl. No. 3699 Appticant(s~: Gregory Fegos Location of Property: S/S Naugtes Drive, Mattituck County Tax Map iD No.: 1000-99-5-17 The Chairman opened the hearing at 7:30 p.m. and read the notice of hearing and application for the record. CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Indicating the approximate placement - of the house which is scad more toward the westerly side of the property at approximately 42.2 feet from Nuagles Drive and it appears to be 27.2 feet from the rear property line. I have a copy of the Suffolk County Tax Hap indicating this and surrounding properties in the area. Is there somebody who would like to be heard on behalf of this application? ~ This is appeal ~3995. Hearing no co~ent from the audience I make a mocion recessing this until the next regularly ..... scheduled meeting. Appl.No. 3989 Applicants: Robert J and Norma E. Sieber Location of Property: Main Bayview Road County Tax Map ID No. 1000-76-2-20 The chairman opened the meeting at 7:32 p.m, and read the notice of hearing and application for the record. CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: I have a sketch and copy of the survey. The survey was ~roduced by Augus~ P. Knapp dated 5/16/83 mentioning the house which is somewhat centered in the center of the property. The nature of this application is a patio which faces Bayview Avenue and which I assume protrudes into front yard area and I have a copy of the Suffolk County Tax Map indicating this and surrounding properties in the area. is there somebody who would like to be heard on behalf of Page 2 - January it, 1991 Public Hearing -Robert J and Norma E Sieber Southold Z.B.A. this one? SR. BRUER: This is a piece Of properEy and a deck that was actually the prior deck was created prior ro zoning and there is a 1983 pre-existing certificate of occupancy fox the house and ~ believe it did include the deck since the deck was there when they gave ~his pre c/o. It f~onts on two s=reeEs as I think you observed and what the applicant did was he reade a mistake and took down the old deck which was existing and was prope~ at the time. He created, actually what he did was he eliminated 80% of the non- conforming use and just left a reconstruction. He reconstructed the deck a little bit in the front leaving less then what was there before. He moved tile decking that was on the Smith Drive North and put out a patio in the rear which is acceptable under the ordinance. This is a small lot that was created well before the present zoning requirements of lots these days and the house was built back at that time. This is the old Smithfield Park area. Considering the fact that what was done by the applicant was to reduce the non- conforming use by over 80% we would respectfully request that the Board grant the application as asked for. I think the papers pretty well spell it out, The deck on the front that is there doesn't go out really any further then what was there originally. The area as I said has been reduced and we would ask that you would please 9ran~ it. It would be a hardship, it is unique and its really not changing the character of the neighborhood, CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: The gentlemen is selling this house? Is that the reason you need the c/o? HR BRUER: Yes, actually he sold it, with the condition that we get the c/o. CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: We will vote on it as quickly as we can , MR BRUER: We appreciate that because he loses a large escrow deposit if it is not granted. CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: We will do the best we can for you as quickly as possible. MR BRUER: When do you think you might know? CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: We~l, we have one more to make tonight Mr.Bruer and we may be able to gee To this one. We will see what we can do. Page 3 January i1, 1991 Public Hearing Robert J and Norma E Sieber Southold MR BRUER: Thank you very much. CHAIRMAN GOEHRiNGER: Is there anybody else who would like to speak on behalf of this application? Is there anybody who would like to speak against the application? CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Questions from Board Members? I make a motion granting this as applied for provided that the existing deck remains open and unmoved. Hearing no further comment I make a motion, Seconded by Jim Dinizio, All in favor AYE. App1.No. 3991 Applicant(s): Grace & John Fiore Location of Property: 150 Sunset Way, Southold County Tax Map ID No. i000- The Chairman opened the hearing at 7:35 p.m. and read the notice of hearing and application for the record. CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: I have a survey done by Roderick Van Tuyl P.C. dated June 4, 1990 indicating a one story frame home, built within 12 feet of the bulkhead. I have a copy of the Suffolk County Tax Map indicating this and surrounding properties in the area. Is there somebody here to represent the Fiore application. MR CAMINITI: Since the application was filed I have a more current survey which shows the actual distances if you like. CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Surely that would be grea~ I appreciate it. MR CA~!NITI: I also have some photographs you can have. This is somewhat similar to the previous applications Mr. Chairman. Although the parcel is a ra~her good size for the scenic beach area, the house itself was constructed only within.Il feet of the bulkhead. The bulkhead existed prior to i976 and my clients purchased the property in 1976 from a Judge Vurgio who has been the owner for over 25 years. We have a letter of waiver of jurisdiction from the Town Trustees and there is one pending now from the DEC. What happened here %;as since the people owned the property since 1976 and we weren't under any regulations at that time as to setback. They constructed a deck that completely surrounds the house. Page 4 - January 11, 1991 Public Hearing - Grace and John Fiore Southold Z.B.A. It surrounds the house on the north, east and west side. We have a stop work order from the Town Building Department to okay a variance. In conjunction with the application ~;e are asking for permission to screen in the patio which is on the south side of the house. Basically the people just were not aware of the ~act that they needed a permit to construct it. He built it himself with his neighbor and as you see it's a pre-existing use, that shows itself on the c/o. All houses are built that way in the area and it's not unique and it certainly is a hardship if we could not maintain this. We are asking for a variance on the setback for this. CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: He does not want to do any screening on the portion of [he deck that is facing the water~ only on the cement portios. For the record after viewing it i don't have a particular problem with it, I did have a problem if there was going to be any screening of the existing wood deck. We will discuss it and certainly it is nothing he is going to screen tomorrow anyway, so we will have the decision for you in a short period of time. MR DINIZIO: Can I 3us~ ask a question? On my copy of the survey on the patio it has like a dotted line that comes out by 5 or 10 feet. Is that an addition 5o that patio? On this one h'ere~ I noticed 'it's not. It says like 5 feet. MR CAMiNITI: There is an application pending by it. His application was to ex~end the patio by an additional 5 feet. MR DiNIZIO: But that's not the case right? MR CAMINITi: I would not like to p~ess my luck at this point. CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: You can let us know. MR CAMINITI: If possible we would like to enlarge the patio by 5 feet. CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: will you give us a setback on that side and include the 5 feet, with the 5 feet what the distance is to the MR CAMINtTi: Do you want a new survey? CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: NO, just give ~ figure, give a call. Also find out from the contractor how high the walls will be that is proposed on the application ~or that particular area which is the flag zone patio. Is there anybody else who Page 5 - January 11, 1991 Public Hearing - Grace & John Fiore Southold Z.B.A, would like to speak on behalf of this application? Anybody like to speak against the application? Questions from Board Members? Hearing no further questions, I make a motion to close the hearing reserving the decision until later. All in favor AYE. App!. No. 3992 Applicant(s): Pamela Ann Conlon Location of Property: 1765 Peconic Bay Blvd~ Laurel County Tax Map ID No. 1000- The Chairman opened the hearing aT 7:49 p.m. and read the notice of hearing and application for the record. CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: I have a survey from Peconic Surveyors dated 6/10/86 revised 10/24/90 indicating a proposed house for the rear of the property this is a corner lot approximately 35 feet from the rear of the property 8 feet from the other rear yard and 24 feet from North Oakwood Road. I have a copy of the Suffolk County Tax Map indicating this and surrounding properties in the arem. Is there somebody who would like to speak on the Conlon application? MR CONLON: Mr. Chairman the applicant is present~ with your permission I will speak on her behalf. The lot admittedly is a narrow lot. What we propose no de there is in the same chazacter as the neighborhood. It's a small new residence that we will place on there. The area~ the property is deep it is 200 feet by 60 feet, as are many of the lots in Laurel Park. I trust that this committee and the Town will look favorable on the application, CHAIRMAN GOEHRiNGER; Can ! ask you also why you chose to build a house which is approximately 3I feet in depth in opposed to 27 or 28. MR CONLON: To be honest with you~ the builder that we are dealing with. The particular builder~ this is a model that they are offering. CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: The only thing that I cannot live with is the 5 ~oot setback. If we want to construe that to be the rear yard. It could be the side yard depending upon what you chose. I would propose the minimum would be approximately 8 feet. MR CONLON: I can live with that. CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: That is what i woul~ be able ~o deal Page 6 - ~anuary !!, 1991 Public Hearing - Pamela Ann Conlon Southold Z.B.A. with, which may require you to shrink the depth of the house. MR CONLON: Shall we talk to the builder about procedures or contact-yo~ lat'er as ~ what we should in order to accomplish that? Do you give us an approval? CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: We could give you a conditionel approval based upon a minimum rear yard of 8 feet and a minimum front yard, yes or we could push it forward by ~ feet which~ Would be instead of 24 and 8, 24 and 5, it would ba 21 and 8. Something of that nature. That may require us to go down and remeasure the area however. The house to the north I can recollect, but it's set bank pretty far it's almost down to the ~a~er i think. MR CONLON: Yes it is. We~ve had discussions with the neighbors in the subdivision. CHAIRM~N GOEHRINGER: There will be some variation. Is there anybody else who would llke uo ~pmak on behalf of this application? is there anybody who would like to speak against the applica'tion? Seeing no hands, any quesnions from Board Members? MR DINiZIO: NO. I think you covered it, making the house a little smaller. CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: I{earin~ no further comment I make a motion closing the hearing reserving decision until later. All in favor AYE. Appl. No. 3984 Applicant(s]: Pudge Corp. Location of property: 1040 Hortons Lane, Southold County Tax Map iD No. 1000- The Chairman opened the hearing a5 7:54 p.m. and read the notice of hearing and application for the record. CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: I have copy of the site plan produced by John A. Gramis dated 7/24/86 revised 9/1/87. I have a copy of the Suffolk County Tax Map indicating this and surrounding properties in the area. Would you like to be heard Mr. Gray. MR GRAY: Thank you very much. On the building itself, when we originally applied for the permit to put a mini storage there we were allowed somewhere around 30 feet in height and Ben Orlowski from the Planning Board said that he would like Page 7 January I1, 1991 Public Hearing Pudge Corp. Southo!d Z.B.A. to have it reduced somewhat. So we reviewed the plan and decided to make it a one story building. Now they asked me how high would it be and I told them I don't know 13, !~ , t5 feet in height. Everything was agree upon know when w~ declde to put an office in the front to accommodate all the storage buildings there we never went up 18 feet in heiqht knowing we were violating anything at all. We just raised up to that height so that it would look nice. Namely to accommodate the air conditioning and heating units behind the roof rather than on the ground. The area is not used fox storage, the height is just for the air conditioning units behind the roof. CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: How high is the roof? MR GRAY: i think it's just 18 feet. CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: It's still a one story building as you mentioned. MR GRAY: Yes it is still a one s~o~y building. CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Did you dismantle amy of the storage areas oz anything for the construction of this? This was placed in between the other ones right? MR GRAY: That's righT. CHAIRMAN OOEHRINGER: Everything is pretty much the same except for the erection of this particular building, it's really an office use. MR GRAY: It's in the original site plan. There were 5 buildings proposed two were built than 3 were added, with the office in the front. CHAIRM~/'~ GOEHRINGER: How big is that bul!dlng approximately. MR GRAY: The office is only 15 feet by 50 feet. CHAIRMRN GOEHRiNGER: The rest of it ls storage. It is a nice looking building. I thank you very much for presenting that to us. We will definitely deal with it very shortly as quickly as we can get to it. What would you. like to say? MR MCCARTHY: We don't have a truck renting agency there at all we drive the trucks and we go with the mini storage operation. We do not solicit people to come and rent trucks, kids leaving college, going to coltege, people come from Louisiana, California come in there with their merchandise Page 8 - January i1, 1991 Public Hearing - Pudge Corp. Southo!d Z.B.A. they store it. There.are no more then 5 trucks there at a time.. We keep them all hidden and then they take them away afte~ they are used. tf we accumulate coo many our agency takes-them_away._ ~ nev~ ~ava~moze hh~n 5 ~ucks maximum. CHA~RkC~N GOEHRINGER: Let t~ understand this~ somebody would actually bring a truck load of merchandise~ they would then probably store in you~ building and then they wsuld leave the truck there-:_.~hen t~ezagencywould send somebody out two people out and they %¢eu!d take the trucks back. MR-~MCCARTHY: They would take them back unless we had room for them or leave them there, somebody leaving would take it to Louisiana or California. CHAIRMAN GOEHRiNGER: Where would those trucks De stored? MR MCCARTHY: They would be stored right on the premises. Right behind the fence. CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: So it's no5 really not a truck ren~a] agency o~ anything. MR MCCARTHY: Definitely not, ~HAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: You manage this enuire-portion in the back of the fence. So you are actually managing this particular building along with the temporary storage of these vehicles. Yeu are not rentin9 this in any way? You are only renting the buildings that are forward of the fence? MR MCCARTHY: That's right. CHAI~,~J~ GOEHRINGER:~ We thank youa~ain. Is the~e else who would like to speak on behalf of this application? Anybody like to speak against the application? MR DIN!ZIO: Will there be any sign for these Rider trucks or a~ything~ MR MCCARTHY: There probably would be a sign up there for a Rider truck to let them knew when they come in. It wouldn't be a public sign. It wouldn't be a great neon sign flashing. MR DINIZIO: Who renEs these than you? They will come your office? MR MCCARTHY: Yes. They can come for the mini. storage and the rental at the same time. People come in and fill out the application and they would leave the truck there, then Page 9 - January I1, 1991 Public Hearing - Pudge Corp Southold Z.B.A. somebody would Dick up the truck and bring it back. The people would use the mini storage. MR DINIZIO: It's incidental to the storage as opposed to just renting trucks? MR MCCARTHY: Yes. It's not a typical rental. We come in and pick up the truck. CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Hearing no further comment I make a motion closing the hearing, reserving decision until later. Ail in favor - AYE. Appl No. 3699 Applicant[s): Mitchell Marks Location of P~operty: 29829 Main Road, Orient County Tax Map ID No. 1000- The Chairman postponed the hearing until the next regularly scheduled meeting. Appl No. 3996 Applicant(s): Stanley Wernick Location of Property: 200 Private Rd ~5, Cutchogue County Tax Map iD No. 1000-72-1-1.6 The Chaizr~mn opened the hearing at 8:02 p.m. and read the noEice of hearing and application for the record. CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: I have a survey with a most recent date of 12/19/88 from Roderick Van Tuyl P.C. It is a survey indicating a one and a half story or two story frame house. Constructed a little closer to the easterly or northeasterly property line theu it is any other portion of property with a in the ground swimming poo!, inclosure area attached to it. The nature of this application is out of a site plan produced by Ward Assoc[ates which shows that the new deck and new addition which is to be conetructed on the easterly side again northeasterly. Shows a setback of approximately 15 feet 5 'inches to a variable of 18 feet 5 inches toward the private zd ~5 and approximately 70 feet for the deck 80 feet for the proposed addition of the existing two story frame residence. It is a rather extensive addition, which is the nature of this application. Is there somebody who would like to be heard for Ward Associates? MR FEELEY: I'm the architect on record for Ward Associates speaking on behalf of the Wernicks. The first issue I would just like to bring to your attention that we received Page 10 January I1, 1991 Public Hearing - Stanley Wernick Southold Z.B.A. notification in the mail. They hadn'~ made any [ssue of it. We did send it to the address that is noted 9n the Assessors records. CHAIRMAN GOEHRiNGER: Are ~' ~= p~o~±~ to ..... _no~ the .... '- the west s~a~ on this. The one issue is that the poe! and~,~'-- ~x~ng ~ residence both c/o's existing in place. The addition itself due to its limited nature of the existin~ design only allows us to attach on certain location and therefore that dec~ded where we put this addition. Being that we were locked ,-~ by the pool and the facility itself. The side addition is ~Le bluff addition is what we are seeking a conforming~ variance as you know'. The design is bringing everything ~o a single level looklng down the road Eowazds a future · ~e ex!st[~ig master retirement residence They are moving bedroom which is on the second floor into this addition, CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Will this be a one or a two story addition? MR FEELEY: On story addition, Other then that there discrepancy on one of the surveys that we did have which is previous survey which had 91 foot setback from the bluff. We don't know how that comes into play but the new survey had a 77 foot setback. Also we would like Eo show by this map is ~o~o~nmn~ ~.luence= have setbacks of 77 on the west side and 35 on the east. So we ~ ~ea~y are nee infringing on anything as far as the character of the setbacks in the area. CHAIRMAN GOEn~N~ ..... apologize, z was down to see tn~ one and I don't remember if there was a bulkhead along the Sound down below. A retainingw~.'~ Is there a retaining wall? MR FEELEY: Yes ~_e is. CHAIRMAN GOEHRiNGER: It kind of limits the erosion factor on the bluff. This bluff is in relatively good shape because it is a really high hazard erosion area. In reference ~o top side erosion. Because of the great !a'wn that is in the rear of this house ~ . ~ seems to be very little erosion at all The only restriction that the Board was so incli-ned to grant this would be thah leaders and gutters be placed on the premises and that they be placed in a holding container, or that they be drained to~,~mrd the private road and away from the blu~. That is the main concern I have at this point snd of course there would be no construction any closer then 70 feet to the top of the hill. This should be a concern. Sometimes we Page 11 - January 11, 1991 Public Hearing - Stanley Wernick Southold Z.B.A. require hay bails or straw bails but in this particular case where the property falls away I don't think it is actually necessary because you couldn't possibly have that amount of rain water that would actually cause that height to spill over the top because of the way it is graded. MR FEELEY: Also the design of the roof will help that. It is going to shed off to the side, majority of it. Only the northerly end would be shedding toward the bluff and with the gutters it could be prevented. CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: We thank you very much. Is there anybody else who would like to speak in favor of this application? Is there anybody who would like to speak against this application? Questions from Hoard Members? Hearing no further co~ents I make amocion closing the hearing reserving decision until later. All in favor AYE. App! Nc. 3998 Applicant(s): Henry ~ uno Mary Raynor Location of Property: Peconic Bay B!vd, Laurel County Tax Map ID No. 1000-126-4-1,2,4,5. The Chairman opened the hearing a5 8:10 p.m. and read the notice of hearing and application fo~ the record. CHAIRMAN bOE~RING~.: I have survey a produced by Peconic Surveyors most recent date is 10/14/90 indicating two rights of way. One walking path and the other a ~oauway, driveway dirt ..... ~ · cono~ruc~on primarily. I have a copy of the Suffolk County Tax Map indicating 'this and surrounding properties ~n the area. Would you like to be heard Mr. Raynor? MR ~A~OR. Basically we are working w~uh an old filed subdivision map x==9 A.L. Downs. There are 4 rijhts o~ way involved The one before you on so~tne~.~r portion extending ~o~o 28 and 30. They were over lots 31 and !0 going through originally deeded as access to lots 28, 29 and 30 however, on a physical review of the site to develop a lot out of those 9 lots on the A.L. Downs subdivision which we propose to do would bee-~xtr~mely~ - environmentally u~o~nd~-' '~ ~ re try and follow this right of way as it exists. The second right of way exists from Peuo~ic Bay Blvd along the boundary running north to lots 24,25,26 and 27 there is also a developers map right of way which he is had that westerly right of way to the ease in a dog like fork. We presume that it would be better to condition to corse up the westerly as described by deed then to proceed through the developers right of way to the east Page 12 January II, 1991 Public Hearing Henry and Mary Raynoz Southo!d Z.B.A. and then again to the north. The property in question exists on town maps as 3 separate tax deeds and I am trying to procure for the Board a single and separate title search for each one of those. CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: You will be back with that right? At another hearing~ MR RAYNOR: If it is required. Yes I will. To date in the deed transfers that t have brought to your office lot 24 was deeded to the Estate which we are contract vendees in 1952. Lots-25 and 27 were deeded from in 1950. Lots 28 - 30 were deeded from Arthur Downs son in 1965. i will leave with the discretion of the Board to decide whether or not we should com~ back and whether or not they are merged~ because they do p~e-exist zoning ordinances in the Town of Southold. I hope ! haven't confused the Board any. CHAIRMAN GOEHRtNGER: No. We will wait until we get that single and separate search. You are having one done at this time? MR RAYNOR: We are having one prepared. CHAIRMAN GOEHRiNGER: Can I lust ask you a question, when one goes to the site and one Eides down ~he road through the caverns there appear Lo be two rights of wcy there. Are they encompassing one right of way? MR RAYNOR: They are not. CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: We are only talking about the easterly right of way which is the nature of this application. You are also proposing that area which then basically approximately to the rear of thc house that is on the corner of this right of way }n Peconic Bay Blvd. You are prcposing that we run an alternate right of way through lots 24,25~26, and 27 to the back lot rather then usinc that existing dog leg which goes to the east and then to the north. MR RAYNOR: That is correct. CHAIRMAn[ GOEHRINGER: To what extent would you be considering conventing that lot , 20 foot access, 15 foot access. MR RAYNOR: i would leave it at the discretion of the Board, however, the 4 lots to the north goes with the 24,25,26 and 27 we have proposed to make a single driveway. 28-30 would use the first part of that driveway in co~nmon usage. Whatever the criteria would be set by your Board. It's very Page 13 Janoary 11, 1991 Public Hearing Henry and Mary Raynor Southotd Z.B.A. wooded and we would !ike to disturb as little as possible. CHAIRMAN GOEHR[NGER: As you are aware the5 I don't know whether we are under contract with Sidney Srown or not but we do have a gentlemen that has now come to the Town and it has been the suggestion of this Board in the past to have the Town Engineer look at this right of way, existing right of way. We will have this gentlemen go down or at least a member of the highway department go down and take a look it. ~R RAYNOR: The existing right of way on The westerly side is in very bad shape. CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: We will see what his suggestion is in reference to enhancing it at this point. How many houses use that existing right of way. MR RAYNOR: At least 3. CHAIRHA~ GOEHRtNGER: I thi~k toward the rear that also becomes a common right of way it appears that when~ goes around the trees again, does it not? MR RAYNOR: It appears that ,-~"~ on tax ~aps. it doesn't_ reflect. CHAIRMAN ~O~H~N~ .... you don't ..... recess this hearing to the next regularly scheduled hearing and have the Town Engineer or a member of the Town Highway Department go out and take a look at the right of way and let them make some suggestions. In the interim I will go and take a look at the alternative access that you are requesting through lots 24. 25, 26 and 27 ~ ~ ..... ~ .a sketch of that but I wrote in the other one I forgot about ~,~e other access, which is a better idea probably. MR RAYNOR: If you look at the access from the southeast of the properties in the described deeds you can see it's prohibited the driveway. CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: I drove in there with my four wheel drive and got about 3/4 of the way through, then turned around and came back out. That was my concern because access flor fire vehicles would be very difficult without taking a substantial amount of trees down. I do concur on that basis. rs there anybody else who woald like to speak on behalf of this application? Is there anybody who would like to speak against the application?~eing no hands I make~ a motion recessing this hearing zo the next regularly scheduled Page 14 - January !1, 1991 Public Hearing - Frank Sawick] Southold meeting. The next regularly scheduled monthly meeting. Ail in favor - AYE. Ap~l No. 3999 Applicanf[s): Frank Saw£cki Location of Property: N/S County Tax Map ID No. 1000-51-3-5 The Chairman opened the hearing at 8:19 p.m, and read the notice of hearing and application for the record. CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: The proposed building ~o be used, iL is a building of approximately 70 feet in width and 90 feet in depth. I have copy of the Suffolk County Tax Map indicating this and surrounding pzopertles in the area. Would any of you gentlemen like to be heard? MR SAWiCKt: Good eveni:~g Members of the Board. I would like to thank you for the opportunity to appear before you and presenu the case ~o you on behalf of my Uncle Frank who is hear tonight and my Aunt Mrs. Walter Sawicki who asked me to represent her. i brought you up a letter as she Rs out of state for this hearing this evening~ The letter is for your files. The basis of this appeal centers around the fact that their potato barns are no longer able to be used for agricultural storage purposes. Frank and his brother Walter used these potato barn£ quite extensively throughout the many decades that the family farm was in business. Walter Sawicki passed away more than ~wo_years ago and even before he passed away the barns really weren't used fez real active agricultural purposes for ~pproximauely three years prior to his passing away. With the exception of partial leasing to other potato farms who would use it for potato storage there has been little or no agricultural use enjoyed by these buildings for the last 5 uo 6 years. Please understand that after a brother of Frank and Walter Sawi~k] passed away the family farm has been totally dissolved, retired and unfortunately I personally must add there will probably be never be another Sawicki farm again. Where does that leave them wi.th the potato barns? Under current zoning use they can legally be converted of course to a residential building but you know as well as we do how costly that would be. Even if it is at a!! possible. You are probably l~terally speaking enormous sums of money to converu a potato barn into a residential building. They have been trying in earnest to rent these building for other agricultural uses but to no avail. As a matter of fact the current tenant Steve Doroski who leases only part of the building for potato storage and has been fez a number of years now. He has already provided Page 15 - January 11, 1991 Public Hearing - Frank Sawicki Southotd Z.B.A. notification that they will no longer be using the potato barns since they too are discontinuing potato farming after this winter storage season is oyez. With the dramatic decline in Southold Town it's basically and virtually impossible to find any type of tenant under the current a~ricuttural restrictions. The hardship arises to them when you consider the costs involved to continue to own and maintain these buildings and not be able to generate any rental income to cover any of these costs. Annual ~ixed costs alone include property taxes over $2100.00, insurance over $3100.00, electric bills over $3050,00. Hence you can see that these barns cost over $8000.00 a year just to own without including the variable expenses fez maintenance and repairs which are quite costly as Ye know ~oz large buildings, I will be happy to provide you later with documentation o~ these costs on an annual basis again for your files. Uncle Frank and Aunt Mrs. Walter Sawicki ! respectfully request that a variance for permission to utilize these existing potato barns for inside storage of general miscellaneous items other then presently permitted as agricultural storage uses. Such examples of these miscellaneous items might include boats, trailers, various equ~pment, cons5ruction materials, and even perhaps household items~ and autique cars. Certain!y the required loading and unloading of such items would be infrequent. Generating little or no change in adjacent parking areas and no change in tzaff!c on ~ear by roads. They are requesting strictly inside storage which would not be visible ~rom any neighbors or neighboring areas. Basically such newly permitted use w~uld be no different than currently allowed under agriculture. Only the storage item itself would be different. If such variance was granted then it is felt that Frank and Mrs. Sawicki could much more easily ten5 or lease these buildings thereby making ownership of the buildings affordable. There is no other way that we know of to be able to derive income ~rom these buildings to meet such limed and variable costs associated with them as I have outlined. I would like to point out ~urther to you that other then Mrs. Sawicki living several hundred feet to the east of these buildings there are no other residences closer then approximately two to three tenths of a mile to the west down the road. It is fully intended that the permission to store such general and miscellaneous items is granted would in no way harm the current landscape of the area since no storage or continuous activities would be permitted to take place outside the building~ No commercial business at all would be permitted in or around the building, Again the surrounding neighborhood would notice absolutely nothing different from outside the buildings as we see currently. We would oppose any efforts to erect signs and generate any additional traffic in that vicinity. All we are asking is permission Page 15 - January 1!, 1991 Public Hearing Frank Sawicki So~thold Z.B.A. for again strict inside storage only. Any activities not be repetitive but to reiterate any activities in the vicinity would be no different then we see currently now allowed under agriculture except it wouidn',t be ag£i. culture s~rictly ~ny longer. Frank and Mrs. Walter Sawlohi also wish to offer you formally or any Town department to the right to inspect at any time these buildings. To insure that the proper storage is in fact being conducted if you so find it proper to grant this variance, In summary, unless this appeal and variance is permitted such buildings will not only be rendered useless but they will cost well in excess of $8000.00 a year to own while remaining vacant. That is my for~i presentation. CHAIRMAN GOEHRiNGER: We have two buildings here is that correct? MR SAWICKI: Right. CHAIRMAN GOERRINGER: What is the actual con~t/uction o~ those buildings? The roofs are woo{. MR SIJ~iCKI: The roofs are wood and the walls are cement block. CHAIRMAN COEHRiNGER: As I think you are aware we did render a decision to two brothers in Cutchogue for a similar types of buildings. One was steel and one was wood and one was some other composite material. They are presently renting those. That decision was rendered sometime in 1988. We of course have placed a restriction on that. That it be of dead or inactive sEorage and I think that we concur in that particular aspect. The one problem that we do have however, we did have Mr. Gray here tonight who owns Pudge Corp. who owns mini storage, in fact, it's right Jn hack of us right over here. We asked him ar the Lime tha~ there be no suorage of --turned tape eve5 -- gasoline tanks. It has been the procedure of most everyone who owns ~ boat of that nature to fill a tank up for the winter so that there is less condensation. This Board may restrict ~f ~t so deszres to grant this application that it be limited to any type of dead storage' that not contain any nocuous or flammable material. That is what we are primarily concerned ~bout. MR SAWICKi: That would be no problem what so ever. CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: There are many many boats out there that the motors are extricated from and then of course the boat ~s then stored for the winter. That is something you will have to deal with. We are concerned with flammable mmteria!. Page 17 January i1, 1991 Pubiic Hearing - Frank Sawicki Southold Z.B.A. MR SAWICKI: That would be no prcb!em. We were Just trying to provide examples of different types of basic what we thought would be very safe types of storage. CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Thank you very much for youz presentation and we will do the best we possible can. Say hello to your father. MR SAWICKI: Thanks very much and enjoy the snowstorm. CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Is there anybody else who would like ~o speak in favor of this application? Is there anybody who would like to speak against the application? Questions from Board Members? Hearing no further questions I make a monion closing the hearing reservlng the decision until iater= All in favor -- AYE. Appl No. 3995 Applicant(s): Gregory Fegos Location of Property: S/S Nau]les Drive, Mattituck County Tax Map iD No~ 10-00-99-5-17 The Chairman opened the hearing at $:37 p.m~ and read the notice of hcaz!ng and application for the record. CHAIRMAN GOEHRiNCER: The first application of the evening, the gentlemen was a little late because of the weather and I did promise him that we would take care of his application first. So we will ask Mr. Fegos if he would use the microphone. MR FEGOS: Good Evening M~- chairman i would like to apologize for the inconvenience. What I am requesting from the rear view of the house from the site oz to connect the rear deck to the side door. There is a 5 foot deck going I have a stoop 5 x ~ so I am 5rying to connect that to the rear deck which was a mistake on the original plan presented to you. That is why it was basically there. CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Is this deck roofed in any way. MR FEGOS: No it is not. CHAIRMAN GOEHRiNGER: Do you have a plan to roof it in any way? MR FEGOS: No~ Page 18 January 11, 199i Public Hearing - Gregory Fegos Southold CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: We thank you very much for driving all the way out here. MR FEGOS: i thank you and I apologize again. CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Nc problem. Good night. I make a motion reserving my decision of recessing it to the ~e×t regularly scheduled meeting and closing the hearing at this point. I want ~o withdraw it. I make a motion withdrawing ray first decision, i'~mke a motion closing this hearing and reserving decision until later. All in favor - AYE. App!. No. 3990 Applicant(s): Cho!{~wsky/Caso!a Location of Property: 3340 [{orton's Lane, Southold County Tax Map ID No. 1000-55-i-9 The Chairman opened the hearing at 8:40 p.m. and read the notice of hearing and application for the record. CHAIRMAN GOEHRiNGER: have copy of the si/e plan produced by Fairweather and Brown ArchitecEs Designers from 122 Front St. Greenport, NY dated i~/15/9~ irldlcating this particular site plan. Are there people in the audience who would llke to see this site plan prior to the discussion of this hearing? AUDIENCE: Can I ask a question? is that similar to the map that appeared in Thursday's suffolk Times? C~{AIRMAN GOEHRINGER: I think it is. Of course it's reduced a great amouns. AUDIENCE: Yes. CHAIRM~N GOEHRINGER: That's why I asked you are welcome to.~ Yes sir. AUDIENGE: I would like to see it. CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Sure. What we will do here at this particular point then is just allow anybody that would like to take a look for a couple minutes. Who would like to be heard on behalf of the applicant? ~r. McLaughlin? MR MCLAUGHLIN: Thank you Mr. Chairman and Members of the Board~ i'm here on behalf of the applicant Michae! Cho!owsky. Basically what we-have here is an approximately 17 acre Page 19 - January 11, 1991 Public Hearing - Cholowsky/Casola Southold parcel of property on Horton's Lane which is almost directly across the street from existing Lucas Ford facility. What the applicant proposes to do is erect a driving range miniature golf and related building and facilities, What we are here for this evening is a very ! ~ ' lmlue~ ISSUe. The zoning code of this Town has a regulation as far as this special exception use and tile -.'~ ~gr~c=~u~ conservation district which makes it a requirement that any type of facility like this must be operated as a not-for-profit type of business. I have submieted to _ ~ . ~.1o Board a memorandum of law and I think it's very clear in my mind from my research that the courts of this state will not allow such a provision to prevail. It's the province of ........ =analog .... planning to limit and control the uses to which a property is put. It is not the province of zoning or p!anRing 'to attempt to dictate who can use the property and what ~-~ ' ' .~[~ ~OVl'~lOn of the special exception usc douu ls try ~o limit that type of entity which can operate this,,!~ ~n~ of ~ '~'~ ~ ~ .X~h CS~. think if you have had a chance to rev!ow my ~"~ ...... ,~'~ ' ....... anu~m you 11 see that all the courts ~f the state i: .... ~cl~,ing the highest court , Court of Appeals, have ruled [hat such limitations are illegal nul!ify basically. ~,~ w~.~= ~u are here for this evening is simply that variance. Tc allow us to go forward with an application for a special exception and a site plan ~ro~. the ~] ~ approval = ~ :_~:nn=~,g Board on betel== sf a operation that is going to be run as a ~s~,~s profit operation. CHAIRMAN .... ~r~u. · · HR HCLAUGHLiN: That is correct. Any of the ' ~ con~=r ..... g the manner in which this operation shall be conducted or how it shall be built and operated really I think should more proper!~ reflected ~n =u~u~= hearings regarding special exception use and or ...... ..... plat' approve±. This again is a very liraited ~ssue that we are here before this Board tonight. We are ceItainly happy to discuss the project, to answer any questions ~-.~ ~ relation to the project and Hike .... ~ '~ h~s~ ~=ow~ky and father here and if there any questions we wo_~d be happy to address them. CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: Will there bo any li§htin9 on the driving range? MR MCLAUGHLI'-N. Yes I bel=eve' that shows on the site plan. The lighting ~' = wi~ ' be dizected oasically outward tee area to the landing area fo~ the golf balls. CHAIRHAN GOEHRINQER: The only other '- ~ - question I have is issue that you are actually looking for. i assume what you Page 20 - January %1, i991 Public F!ear Ing Cholow~ky/~aoo m~ Southold are ,_ook~n~ and correct me if i'm wrong, ~%r. McLaughlin, are looking for either r~lze~ from that number which is number 7C at i00-31 page 1041 which says "such use shall no5 be conducted [o~ profit as a business enterprise." MR H~AU~HL~N. I am looking ~or~--~ .... ~om that and allowing ~ to ~ we can obtain ~ ........ ' ~em hh~s ~oard in the way efa special exception and ~rem the Planning Board a site plan ~ppro~'~ uo be able to ~rate fo~ ' ' ~ ~ou----~,_~ ~i~ type Du~iness purpose. Not as a '- ~ ~-~--~'e of operation. CHAIRMAN GO~H,.INu~R. ~.-t' only c~ u .... is .~ a~ ~ ~um we have pre-exiting solf .... ~-~ and c ........ we :nye a pre-existing miniature ~ '~ = '- ~ ...... ~ e ~--ve - o'~e-oxistins driving ~an~e in the Town of ="~+~''~ ~c this condition~ o~ to vary ~u ~ ...... ~ ,, t.n~s ~ .... u ca,sc p~ecedent, so to speak, wie' ~ ~'~- . That ' concern a[ this k~oint. ~t ...... ~ ~ y this particu!a~ ~ct but many '-~' ~p~o~ects and ~"' " ultimate concern, I have heard of discussions of construction Df a 200 ~c~' ~a -~ ~ cou~s~ ~n' Laurel, which' certainly not operate unless it was o~cratad MR ~C~A~.GH~IL: Un~,~ z~ was a p~v=t~ club. C,~AIR~A~ uOE,~R~NG~R. Snnzlar to No~th~,,~-~'.~, Country Club. i have also heard discussions -'¥ ~su~ Islands End being profit or not-profit I really don't have that at this particular point and it is probably ~ -~ '~= ~ p=e ~x~o~ zoning anyway. ~ha= ~ my main to say in that area? HR ,.C~AUGH~ .... Well I thln~ obviously ~,~=2 ~p. pll~,~lo~ legitimacy to your concern and people ..... ....... certainly come back and point to this. If t'm ~ ~ '~ :-= '~, ~en~e~ t .... relief at ' ' ~ ' ,z~e= ~=~,~ but to go pointODVlO~lSly I think I nave no o~e .... forward and again I think the precedents that I have provided to you in ~,v memorandum of law we'~-~ indicane that i will ~h=~ were true i= I ha-~ to ultimately prevail probably, if ~ -~ c~c prevail then that portion of go that route and i ~ ~ ~o ..... ~ ordinance wo~id then be gone ~ ...... ~- would t~e~ not be limited with my application, u -~ ~ unln,. '" ~ b~'+~'~ let C,,AI~HAN SOEHRINGER: r ~, - ~ ~n,~.~ yOU h~d ........ ~s do ~s recess this hearing to the nex~ r~la~y scheduled ~ ,, ~ will discuss your monthly meeting and in the .nt_r.m we .~.mo~andum of the law with out Town Attorney anu we will go from there. Now that is not meaning that we will have it Page 21 - January 11, 1991 Public Hearing Cholowsky/Caso!a Southold Z.B.A. tha early part o~ F~bru_~-v ..... ~.~ ---- part of February. this along as expeditiously as Dessible b~cause ........ y do have other, assuming that w~ get beyond this stage~ we do have othe~ ~lurdl~ ~o ovcza:um~ c~u we w~,~izu zi~ to progress as e~k~y as CHAI RM~-~ ....... =~ ...... v~n=e~ or uOEnRlz{~b'_. Are your c~ppzicants contract -a ~ do they own the property? MR MCLAUQHLIN: They nz~J ]~g ~ ...... ~a.~'~' -~- nrtlnn to purchase. CHAIRMAN ~u~a~J~,~: i _~-~n ~- ~ honest with you~ coa~inue this ~o any great dec.eec~ what i want to do Is ~u~,~ _~,~,~,~. ~z*.~= tile ~"~ .... At~ c,:-~ We have been ....... ~,~r..~_~ .... h~ SV= un- ~,~.~--,.~,s~"~,+'~'%~' n~.,J- ,:,z~=~ ~ ~.-h,=' '= -'-~=~,~ of '~ '- .... not 9otten chance ~-~ d: ............ this · '~ ~u ,- ~ ........ wl~,. =~,um. I should point out ~or the audience ~hat it is the nature of this Board that when a person b~inqs a heartng be~.re our calendar that we do hear the case and we io appreciate everybody comin~ out here. I just want to mention for the audience again that you have the perfect right vn ';p~sak ~:onight that this is a preliminary meeting fox that sol~=-~.~_~o.,~""~,_~ o= dealing w~th' the issue ~ ~'"=:~ ' ~z~ in the not-for-profit as opposed mo D~ whlch a~'~° code. the previous speaker~ this point of law would allow him to build a fat rendering pzan~ for any pair .... ar bus!ness decided to build. I'm i correct in that. CHAiRHAN__ ~OEHRiNCER: i a_~-t, know because .r .~,~e~ ..... no5 completely' rev~ewea the m...o=and~_~m of law. That is a question however though. After we give the To~n ~e~ ~y copy 3f this that you might ask the Town Attorney. ~HNoON. I~ it seems so unusually wrong to be able to do thaz. CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: There is no eu .... on that when I sat with the gentlemen who immediately sits ho my ~ , ~ ~ef~ and shoui{ mentior_ this gentlemen has been on this Boasd for 35 years along with gentlemen that is lust in the hospital. I asked him uniquely, az a joint raectinq_ with the Board u=~= App,~a~o, '~ ~ from the Inc. Village of Greonport and ~-.- State came down and we were dealing with a training session. I said to him Cn,_~_=e~ grigonis tell me why what b~t zon to the Town ~'- ' ~'~ ~" ~,a~ somebody wanted to build a of ~u~t. old. He told me ~-~. Page 22 - January ii, 1991 Public Hearing Cholowsky/Casola Southold Z.B.A. sauerkraut factory in a residential district. That is basically, if that answered your question, fine. HR JOHNSON: Thank you very much: HR MCLAUGHLIN: I~ I could ~us'~ briefly respond ~o that- i{!' application is not to allow us ~o do any kind of profit business that we want to do hheze~ My application is simply to allow us ~o operate, in our particular instance, the golf driving range and miniature golf for profit as opposed not-for-profit. As far as thc public would b~ concerned, there ~ould be absolutely no difference between the two operations. To walk upon the site you would sec absolutely no difference between a profit and a not-profit. We are no~ proposing to do anytnin9 other then what is allowable as a special excopuion in the AC District. We are merely asking that as opposed to having to form a not-for- profit corporation and operate a business without making a profit. That we will be able to do it as a regular busine~s corporation~ partnership or individual ownership. CHAIRMAN GOEHRiNGER: Please understand that I am not comparing your clients projec5 Eo a sauerkraut factory or anything of that nature because am ~ct. MR MCLAUGHL!N: was basically responding co the question and we are limited ~o what we could ever hope to be able to do under a special exception co those uses that are allowable for special exceptions. MR WINTERS: i live on Hortons Lane. I would llke to address instead of going into my feeling about whether oz not ~ driving range constitutes a golf course and speak to the question brought up by counsel of the applicant and due respect to Lawyer HcLaughlia. The wording on this i went back to the zoning book and when you get lnto a AC District it talks about prcservation~ it talks abo~r occident!at development with a minimum of two acres. It talks about certain exceptions, maybe a two family ~ome, possibly a nursery, a church, things like that. A golf driving range seems a far cry, to me, from being anything with any kind of agricultural or conservation orientation. It's a business pure and simple and it belongs in the business district, net in a residential distric~ which AC is. In f'act AC is probably more restricted in terms of reuidentia! zoning then is a pure RE. Because it addresses the wide open ranges and the preservation of the flavor of the Town. The agricultural flavor of the Town. In any event, getting down to the possible exception uses, one of them refers to and I'm going to read if r may~ beach clubs, tennis clubs, country clubs, Page 23 January 11, 1991 Public Hearing - Cho!owsky/Casola Southold Z.B.A. golf clubs, public golf courses, I presume that would be something like the county course in Riverhead, an annual membership clubs ~ ~ ca~e=~ng exclusively to members and their guests. When the conditions of that, I'm trying to get to Lawyer McLaughlin's point. Is that such use shall not be conducted = ' ~' ,_or profit as a DUoln~SS enterprise. It's my gtless in reading this and thinking about it a little bit, ~chat the authors of the zonin~ law pus that in there for very a specific purpose because they knew that beach clubs, tennis clubs, country clubs, goi~ clubs, public golf courses that wouldn't apply, but that's s little different. An annual membership clubs are not-for-profit. There maybe some exceptions to that ~"~.,~. Islands End which you said pxe- existed zoning anyway. A private membership only exc!ustve membership only North Fork Country ~zun. For example: Developers flock to these clubs to build residential axcas~ residential ~ ...... ~' ~u~.~n~ Lhcm~ because enh~n~z the value of a residence rather tigon retracting ~rom it. Au I suspect that a golf or irivinq range and ~.' '-'~ ~iRi~ eu~ golf that you probably would with ~ ~ , e= ~gn~ and this type of thinj. don't ~ ~ an~o~uy ~s going to flock to put in a residential subdivision surrounding a golf or driving ~ange. I believe that to ~'.~,~.c thc.~:..¥'...~ pro{it or the not-for profit ~ oeoalace~y and try Lo deal with it alone is issue pull ie out ~ . - ~ ' not the intent of she way ,~:- ~,~.~.g by %t's ~uthors i ' Is ~,~a.~ co ~c '?'-~ whole to try to fracture what was originally ~:et out. =T+~ iS in there a~-$ condition to make sure that if ~ golf club does go in to a AC area, a residential area, it is in indeed a private, exclusive golf c=u~ that zs going to enhance the residential area, blend !n with the residential area and not be something z~erent issue from other then that. Not-for-profit iN: a dl~ that and = don't think ~ -' ' _~ =~, ~- = ~h~,t ~- can be d~a~ with separately. it is the only thing tn.~ .... e ....... allowed to ~=~ about tonight You can't do that ~=,~,~ ~ /o's ' . ~ec .... e i~ we mo ~ just w~ong. This is not the way this was written, rt can't be done that way, CH~R~AN GOEHRINGER: Thank you. ~O~o~R. I owe property on North Sea Drive and I Second his ~' ~ MS ~ .~o[~E~.' ~ i live at ~he' very end of Hortons Lane and I would like 5o say that I ngree with everything ,.nat Winters jesu said. MR BOOS: Horton's Lane. Considering the situation here and I'm no5 going to say very much except that I consl=er the fact that Lucas Ford is across the street is pretty Page 24 January Ii, 1991 Public Hearing - Cholowsky/Caoola Southold Z.B.A. distressing already and I don't feet that more distress is necessary. MR PATAGLIA: I live on Horton's Lane, I agree with Mr. Winters. In addition we, there ~re many people in this area that don't, haven't heard about this plan going in. Haven't been advised and haven't had a chance to come up here and oppose it. If we could ge'u a continuance. CHAIRMAN GOEHRiNGER: That is what we are going to do tonight. Thank you. MR REGAin: I also li~e on Hortons Lane. We feel ver~ strongly about this. F[£st of all there will be a greau dca! of traffic~ there will bc lights. Wh~t wc ar~ really concerned about is that it could turn into a- like it did in Farmlngda!e some y.~azs ago. We ars very much upset over the idea of cot having a continuance until al! of people are avaiiab!e to come here and talk about it. CHAIRMAN GOEHRiXGER: Thank you. MR STOLLMEYER: I live on Soundv!ew Ave near the cerne~ of Horton's Lane and want ~o agree ~ith all of the former speakers. CHAIRMAN GOEHRiNGER: Thank you sir. MS LEPRESTI: - also live on ilorton's Lane and ara very much opposed to this whole proposition. We are very worried, CHAIRMAN OOEHRINGER: Thank you. MR MCLAUGULiN: Jtlst ~ cosp!e of points to ~eltezate. Whether this operation is dona as a not-for-profit }pez~tlon or whether it is done as a profit operation it's ~he same facility. ~-~ ·~ ' ~ ' on,- ~ ~ ~e~oo~,y lz LtIS' - no~ a ~c~a, ixceptiofl this district the~e is no other district within the Town of Southo!d in which it falls. This is the specific district in which an operation such as this sort was put into the zoning ordinance and it's my position to this Board that the attempt within that ordinance to limit it to a type of person that can own and operate that business is illegal, It cannot be done lewd!fy, That is thc ~ole point that I want to make to the Board this evening. Again assuming that we go on to the next step a~y and all questions regard[ns the ~ctuai operation of the facility will be open again to public common5 as well an continuation of this hearing. We are happy to sit down and talk to people about this at any point in time and see if we can overlay some fears. Page 25 - January 11, Public Hearing - ~ho~o~ky/Caso~ Southold Z.B.A. ~ - = ' you. ~ co~ing CHAIRMAN GOEHRiNG~R. Thank We thank you all in. We will continue this hearing around mid February. will readvertise it in the interim. Everybody thank you for your courtesy and have a ~afe trip home. Hearing no further co,aunt I make a motion to recessing it to the next regularly scheduled monthlym,~.~,~. Ail in favor Aye. Appl. No. 3993 Applicant(s): Kenneth ~ .... Location of Prol}erty: ~b,- ~ ' ..... ,~zoa~l~g, Fishors islan~] County Tax Map iD No. The Cha { ~n + ~ ..... =n opened the bearing at 9:05 p.m. ,_~3 the notice of hearing and nppllc<~tion fo~ thc MR DOYEN; I ~-"a ' ~w~ ~ ~- '' ~ecau~,, topography this is the unty ?~ ~r'~% ~ ~ ~-a,-,,1, a .... ~, on this lot for an occcssory building. CnAIRMAJ uO~H~u~: Is ,~ a one s~ozy building? h~ DOYEN: it ~-'{]~,~ ~ ,~_~ ~,~ ..... snory building. CHAIRMAN Go~HR!~,Gma.~o~ + ~'~-~ exceed how MR D0~E~,. Less t:~en 5he ordinance limit. ~,~R,~,~R. be used strictly for s~orage? MR ~Y~N. ~t~,ct~2 -e .....'e~ garage for .~n ,.~ ...... ~A~:~A~ GQEHRINGEE: W~at ~ype of utilities? MR DOYEN: Possiblye~ec,~rlui~ -'~ '~"ty but no 'wa,,ez,~' - no u~-~' ~r ~ uti~ -e. C~{AIr~MA~ COEHRINGER: No heat? HR DOYEN: No beat. CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: I have no other questions. No further ~-~R DOYEN: ~ ~ ~. ~' ~ it ~ ~n .... ly thing ~ ,1 add ceztalnly can't be objectionable to anybody e~ ~ ~' ~ ~'-, ~_se D~CG~S~ ofz~ ~ location. more or ~s~ ~n ~he ce~rhez o~~=' lot as it works out. Page 26 - January i1, 1991 Public Hearing Kenneth L. Southold Z.B.A. CHAiRM~N GOEHRINGER: Fo~ the people in the audience you should be~aware that we are discussing an application which Is the last one of the evening ~oz Ken Edwards who is a F~hers ~t~n~ Member ~n~. ~ ~ ........ ~ Board and an a~?~_~an~ at this pazt~cula_ hca .... g. ~ ..... ~oyc~ has personally ,~w~ the premises and he is ~ ~ . d~ to a~ ~' ' this premises Which w~ ~,~ ne~ ~.~y ove~ look point. Merely because ic [~ ~n accessory building in the side yard area. We ~ ~r,- _ ,_~ ..... Mr- ~-e~ for your testimony. MR DOYEN: My pleasure H~ CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: We ....., u~ chat you have come a 'z~h9- w~y ~oz this. Hearing no~s'~'+~,~.~... sk~estions. Is thence a~f~,~-~'~-~,~" in the =us~ence tha= would ~ ~kn ~., speak =~=n=t this application? Anybody ~ ~ .... .......... up~3dk in favor of the n"'t~t~o~t? Seeing n~ hanes i .... '" a ,~a .... u reserving decision ~,i-~7 Ail in favor - AYE.