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APPEALS BOARD
MEMBERS
CHARLES GRIGONIS..IR.. CHAIRMAN
SERGE DOYEN, JR.
ROBERT J. DOUGLASS
GERARD P. GOEHRINGER
Joseph H. Sawicki
MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING HELD
DECEMBER 29, 1980
A Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board of Appeals was
held on Monday, December 29, 1980 at 7:30 o'clock p.m. at the
Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York 11971.
Present were: Charles Grigonis, Jr., Chairman; Robert J.
Douglass; Gerard P. Goehringer; Joseph H. Sawicki. Absent due
to illness was: Serge J. Doyen, Jr.
Also present were: Mrs. Shirley Bachrach, League of Women
Voters representative; Mrs. Ruth Oliver, North Fork Environmental
Council representative; Mike StAhl, Suffolk Times reporter; Paul
Demery, L.I. Traveler-Watchman reporter; George H. Fisher, Senior
Building Inspector.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2765. Application of Peter V.
Izzo, 919 Harlane Circle, North Bellmore, NY 11710 for a Variance
to the Zoning Ordinance, Art. iii, Sec. 100-31 for approval of
insufficient area and width of two proposed parcels located at
the west side of Pine Tree Road, Cutchogue, NY; more oarticularly
known as Lots 34 and 35A, Map of Nassau Farms, Map No. 1179; County
Tax Map Item No. 1000-104-2-9 and 10.
The Chairman opened the hearing at 7:36 p.m. by reading the
appeal application, legal notice of hearing and affidavits attest-
ing to its publication in the local and official newspapers,
Notice of Disapproval from the Building Inspector, and letter
from the Town Clerk that notification to adjoining property owners
was made; fee paid $15.00.
MR. CHAIRMAN: We have a survey and copy of the County Tax
Map showing this and the surrounding properties in the area. They
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propose to build a house on roughly 50' by 40 on a lot that is
60' across on one end, roughly 70' on Pine Tree Road, 303' on the
longest side, and then 295.55' on the other side. Is there any-
thing that you would like to add to anything that you have stated
so far?
MR. IZZO: No, I don t think so. I tried to explain the
reasoning in the appeal. The diagram on the map that I drew is
not anything, you said 40' by 50 , that's not a confirmed size,
that was just something that I had planned on.
MR. CHAIRMAN: This was referred to the Planning Board, and
as of this date we haven t received an official answer from them.
I had a copy of their minutes, and they weren't happy with sub-
dividing it at this time this way. So, I thought that would bring
this uo-to-date. This is the letter we sent over to theme-for
all subdivisions, no matter if it's taking out one lot from a par-
cel, three, four, five lots, everything has to go there.
MR. IZZO: Am I right in my understanding that it was the way
we purchased it that created the problem, the fact that it was put
in the same name, that it automatically was merged?
MR. CHAIRMAN: It was merged as one parcel. Do any of you
gentlemen have any questions?
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Not right ye~. Not right at the moment.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Bob?
MEMBER DOUGLASS: No.
MR. IZZO: I have one other question, if I could ask it? Over
the years as I paid taxes on the property, there was no indication
in my mind that they were merged since it was separate tax bills for
Lot 34 verses 35A. So that's unique to the situation. There was
no indication that it was one piece of property. To this day I
received separate tax bills for both of our lots.
way.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: That doesn't make any difference.
MR. IZZO: I didn't know, but I say I have received bills that
MR. CHAIRMAN: I don't know why, but sometimes it's done that
way and sometimes they separate them. He bought the first one in
1965 and the next one about five years later.
MR. IZZO:
Lot 34.
In 1970 I purchased the other piece, that would be
MR. CHAIRMAN: Well, if there are no further questions, III
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offer a resolution closing the hearing and reserving the decision.
MR, CHAIRMAN: Excuse me, is there anyone else to speak in
favor of this? Anyone to speak against this application? (There
was no response.) You may have to excuse us a little bit tonight,
we're all a little bit groggy, with a little bit of flu, and
something. I'll offer the resolution closing the hearing and
reserving decision, and referring it to the Planning Board.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Seconded.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Goehringer, it was
RESOLVED, that the decision on the matter of Peter V. Izzo,
Appeal No. 2765, be reserved and the hearing be declared closed.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Douglass, Goeh-
ringer and Sawicki. Absent was: Mr. Doyen.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2769. Application of Nicholas D.
Yuelys, 6159 Broadway, Bronx, NY 10471 for a Variance to the Zoning
Ordinance, Art. III, Sec. 100-32 for permission to construct acces-
sory building in the frontyard area at 56005 C.R. 28, Greenport, NY;
bounded north by L.I. Sound; west by Candan; south by C.R. 27 (North
Road)~ east by Atwan; County Tax Map Item No. 1000-44-1-19.
The Chairman opened the hearing at 7:50 p.m. by reading the
appeal application, legal notice of hearing and affidavits attesting
to its publication in the local and official newspapers, Notice of
Disapproval from the Building Inspector, and letter from the Town
Clerk that notification to adjoining property owners was made; fee
paid $15.00.
MR, CHAIRMAN: We have a County Tax Map showing the adjoining
areas and a sketch showing the present and proposed buildings, and
as Mr. Yuelys states there is 50' on the North Road and probably
the same on the Soundfront. The lot is approximately 130' deep on
the shorter side and 143' on the longer side. Is there anything that
you would like to add to what you have stated Mr. Yuelys?
MR. YUELYS: I will say the hardship is unique. There are three
pieces of property on the North Shore on the beach side which have
50 feet frontage. My house is the only one that's built on stilts.
The other two homes are built strictly on the sand with the bulkhead,
and they have a basement and they have a built-in garage underneath.
I don't have that. I can t possibly go underneath because there are
water lines at front and I'm too close to the water. In fact I was
ll' from the water on one stage. The water has risen up and has risen
up even now, if you go up there, the water has risen up above the
level of the house. So there is no way that I could use the underside
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(Mr. Yuelys continued:)
of the house. The sides of the house are too small to build an
accessory building. It's impossible because the house is 30 feet
and it only has enough room between the two sides to pass back
and forth, so we can't build on the sides. The only place I could
possibly build this would be in the front. The character of the
district would not change. My next door neighbor has a garage in
the front; he has a bathroom; he has a side-accessory building in
the back. He has another bathhouse in the back. All right down
the lane. It doesn't hurt anybody; it doesn't detract from anybody.
My situation is such a hardship that as soon as the weather becomes
bad, I must close the house entirely. There is no way I could put
it in the side and maybe come out in the Fall, in the Wintertime if
I want to come out. Right now my electricity is on. My porch is
all blocked up. All my bedrooms are all blocked up. I have a
wooden table. I have lawn chairs, as you all kno'w in a beach house,
we have 15 or 20 beach chairs that are all in the house. There's
no way in the world I could possibly build this accessory building
anyplace but there. And there's no reason that I could, there's no
way I could possibly build it in any other place except there; and
it would still render the character of the neighborhood the same.
In fact, by building this house it would even make it appropriate
with my neighbor's house, who was the only one that could possibly
object -- is the one that would be adjacent to his. But he built
his house right along the side line there. He has his. In fact
he's got four of them down the line. So-- I'm only going to use
this for storage. I don't want windows; I don't want anything--I!ll
be needing it just to put in my equipment and everything else during
the summertime and during the wintertime.
MR. CHAIRMAN: All right, thank you. We have on file here a
letter to the Board of Appeals dated October 3rd, to the Chairman,
Town of Southold: "...Gentlemen: Several days ago our next door
neighbor, Mr. Nicholas Yuelys, was thoughtful enough to seek our
reaction to his place to build a storage shed in his frontyard and
directly adjacent to a legal building on our property. In that
connection we have this date written to Mr. Yuelys stating our ob-
jections to the location of his proposed building. We also told
him that because of our travel plans we could not be sure of receiv-
ing his mailed notice to us or reading the published legal notice
should he seek a variance. The location of the building he described
to us would block the windows and, therefore, effectively cut out
light and the prevailing flow of air in a building we have for years
used for resting and sleeping both night and day. We wish it to be
a matter of record, transmitted to you in advance and for the reasons
stated above~ that we object and request that no variance be granted
for a building on that location should such a variance be sought.
Respectfully yours, signed, A.M. Atwan, Box 61~ North Road, Southold .... "
MR. YUELYS: May I reply to that? This particular house that he
is referring to was built in 1973 with a Certificate of Occupancy
issued. At that t4me that house was not built the way it's built
now. Those windows were put-in three years later with a bathroom
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(Mr. Yuelys continued:)
because a C/O states specifically that the Suffolk County Health
Department approval not required. He didn't have the bathroom. He
put this in three years after he got the C/O. I wasn't making-- I
don't object to it. He put this right on the line. So he's got
an illegal building, uses a bathroom and a house. These particular
windows he is talking about, I spoke to him, I told him "Move them
up higher and it's ok." He didn t want to move them up because the
paneling inside he can t get. It s discontinued paneling. My
building is only 6'6" high on that side. I told him I will not
block his--I will only go up to the limit which I could build a
fence on. I could go on the line, I explained to him, I could go
right on the line, the Code says I could go right on the line and
build a 6'6" fence which would block your windows--the height of
the top of the windows is 6'6" So I'm not doing anything, that,
I'm asking for anything I can't do without asking you~ Now second
of all, three houses to the east a party has property of over 100'
frontage--he wanted to build a guesthouse. He wash t within 100'
feet of the nearest house where he wanted to build a guesthouse, he
couldn't put windows into that particular place, and wanted to use
as an accessory building. And he's using it as a storage house, yet
Atwan, in violation of the ordinance, went and go ahead and put the
windows in, and he went and put in this bathroom. Furthermore I
have pictures to show that this particular side that he is coming
about~ the windows, he's got the whole side of the house comoletely
open. There's a window facing frontwards. On the other side of
the house, which I have other pictures, he shows he's got another
window which he has completely open. So he has one window, another
window, and he's got these two windows, which if you've seen them,
they're very smalls tiny windows, they re not even worth talking about.
MR. CHAIRMAN: We went up there.
MR. YUELYS: And these are the two windows that he is complaining
about I might be blocking. Which I could block anyway if I wanted to
block it. So I don't see why he's complaining. Meanwhile he's got
his accessory buildings and it's ok. "Now I've got mine, you can't
have yours." He's got 75' frontage; he's got a main house; he can
build in the front and the side if he wanted to build~ Yet he built
them right on my line. Now he says, that I have no room for anything,
he says I shouldn't build now because I might block his two windows.
I don't think that it's fair what he's doing.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone else that wants to speak for or
against this?
STANLEY CORWIN, ESQ.: My name is Stanley Corwin; and I am here
representing Mr. Atwan. You may recall in his letter he indicated
that ne might not be getting a notice of the meeting. He finally did,
but he was spending the holidays with his family in Ohio, and he was
trying hard to get out of there today; he may still walk in here, But
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(Mr. Corwin continued:)
he asked me in a telephone call this afternoon to come by and take a
look at the file and to speak in his behalf at the meeting tonight.
Unfortunately the sketch that accompanies Mr. Yuelys' application
does not show the buildings on the adjacent property. A site plan
related to the dwellings on the east and the west would show that
the location selected by the applicant is the worst possible one.
On the southwesterly corner of the Atwan property there is a building,
the southerly end of which is a framed storage garage, and the north-
erly end of which is a bed, living room. That's the one that Mr.
Yuelys refers to as being there to some respect illegally. It is
not, and the records of this Town will show that everything that he
did there that required a permit was done with one. And I take
exception to Mr. Yuelys' remarks that the building there is improper.
Incidentally the garage was there before zoning. Now there are two
windows on the westerly side of the northerly end of that building
supplying both light and air, as the Board is aware, that the pre-
vailing winds in the summertime when these houses are occupied is
from the soNthwest. If the Yuelys' application were to be granted
and the building shown on his papers on file were to be constructed,
it would effectively cut off an essential supply of light and air
to the Atwan accommodations, which Mr. Atwan in communications to
the Board referred to as a resting and sleeping area day and night.
In behalf of the Atwans, then I do vigorously oppose the granting
of the application in the form in which it is made. However, my
clients recognize that their friend Nicholas stated a legitimate
case for a real need of storage space. They realize too that it
can be only placed in his frontyard. Moreover, they realize that
if their property were presently vacant, they wish to construct
the buildings as they presently are, they could do so only if a
variance were granted for that. And therefore their objections are
limited, believing that the southwesterly corner of the Yuelys'
property would be an accessible location for a storage building.
They go on record as saying that they would have no objection to
the application being granted, on the condition that the building
be placed on the southwest corner. Now the Candan property adja-
cent on the west in that area is a dug out entrance to a garage
under the dwelling. The dwelling itself would not at all be inter-
ferred with in any significant way. The acts of government are
necessarily often arrived at in the spirit of compromise, and I
believe that neighbors dealing with government regulations in the
zoning variance should also approach a solution in the spirit of
compromise. We think Yuelys should be given some relief in the
form of the strict application of the law to a small lot, but we
believe that it's between the applicant and both of his neighbors
the place should be selected for the granting of that relief which
would least infringe on the existing building. Thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Mr. Corwin.
MR. YUELYS: I'm not here about where my lot should be built,
but if I build where they want to build on the other side, I might
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(Mr. Yuelys continued:)
as well destroy my whole front yard, because there is no more lawn.
I got 50'. I'm the only one there with 50' in the front that has a
lawn, and I did that by getting bulldozers to come in and to dig it
up and put topsoil down to make that lawn. A specific purpose so
that I could have my picnic, my tables, my chairs there.
MRS. YUELYS: It would also block the house.
MR. YUELYS: It blocks my house too on my side, too, I have
windows also on that place there. We could also put on that point.
Whereas those windows that he has there are totally unnecessary, and
they weren't put in there until after the C/O was granted. And in
this I could swear, as the lawyer mentioned there, I have the records,
I have the C/O right here. I'm not coming in here and saying some-
thing not knowing what it is. I checked the whole record. This bath-
room was put in and I even asked Atwan personally, and he told me,
"I do not require a permit, nor do I require aporoval because ! had
it in the 1973." So that is because the whole thing was put in
illegally and he shouldn't have put it in in the first place because
if I had known about it, I would have objected to the windows.
Those windows actually caused me trouble. .In the sense that he
comes up and he tells me that I'm doing something in the frontyard--
I'm making noise. I'm not doing it to be vindictive, I'm doing it
because I have a unique and a hard problem. I just have no place
to put anything. And I don't want to destroy my lawn. If I put
it there, it matches it. I got pictures, I'll show it. And it
matches it perfectly--I'll put it in the same way so it'll look
good on both sides. I put it on the other sides it'll look like
a monstrosity--changing the whole character of the neighborhood.
There's only one place where I could really put it, that's
where I've elected to put it.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Well, we were down, and we looked the property
over. We're fully aware Of the what the situation is, as far as
property wise goes down there. Is there anyone one else who would
like to speak in either way on this? Do any of you gentlemen have
any questions?
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: My questions have been answered.
MR. CHAIRMAN: I~ll offer a resolution, we're running a little
behind, to close the hearing and reserve decision,
MEMBER DOUGLASS: Seconded.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Douglass, it was
RESOLVED, to close the hearing and reserve decision in the
matter of Nicholas D. Yuelys in Appeal No. 2769.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Douglass, Goehringer
and Sawicki. Absent was: Mr. Doyen.
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PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2767. Application of Wilbur A.
Baldwin, 1725 Nassau Point Road, Cutchogue, NY 11935 for a Variance
to the Zoning Ordinance, Art. III~ Sec. lO0-31 for permission to con-
struct attached garage with an insufficient sideyard setback at
1725 Nassau Point Road, Cutchogue, NY; more particularly known as
Nassau Point Club Properties Lot No. 1; County Tax Map Item No.
1000-104-13-2.4.
The Chairman opened the hearing at 8:11 p.m., and read the appeal
application in its entirety, legal notice of hearing and affidavits
attesting to its publication in the local and official newspapers,
Notice of Disapproval from the Building Inspector, and letter from
the Town Clerk that notification to adjoining property owners was
made; fee paid $15.00.
MR. CHAIRMAN: We have a map of the property showing the construc-
tion proposed, and a County Tax Map of the area showing this property
and the surrounding lots. Is there anyone here that wishes to speak in
favor of this application? Yes, sir?
WILBUR A. BALDWIN: My name is Wilbur A. Baldwin. My reason is~ I
think, very basic for requesting the variance. My existing home is
1169 square feet, is a very small home and habited by four people, and
we have two automobiles as I have stated. I am desperate for storage
space. The property layout and location of the home is uni~que in the
sense that all of my property is considered frontyard by the Town rules.
Any place that I chose to ask for permission to erect a garage would
still require a variance, no matter where i~ is located because it's all
frontyardo The reason for selecting this area is the proximity to the
entrance to my house; it would do the least amount of damage to tearing
up my property, which I have sprinkler systems and underground wiring.
I have a leeching system that comes out to the whole back end of the
house, comolete with a septic holding tank and the five rings. It
would enhance the appearance of my home and also serve the function of
driving up and then leaving the garage and then going immediately into
my home. The south side of my home is going to be the future home of a
solar unit, which I intend to solarize the whole house. The purpose of
the garage being on the northwest side is so I can kill the wind which
kills me there because I'm right on the water, and I have total phobia.
If I eliminated that and also provide the solar activity, I should be
in very decent shape. My property line, excuse me, on the lefthand
side, the proximity of where I'm requesting to put the garage will be
one corner of the garage, would be 20" from my fence. My fence is ap-
proximately a foot to 1-½ feet inside the property line, and the other
side of the property is the Old Nassau Point Road, () beach owned by
Nassau Point Property Owners Association. The location of my garage
would not in any way be obtrusive or of inconvenience to anybody. It
will not have any running water in it; it will not have any heat; and
it will be used for nothing but storage and garage purposes. That's
the reason I feel that this request should be granted. Thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you. How big would that solar addition at
the other end of the house be~ roughly?
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MR. BALDWIN: We're planning on a 25' by 20'
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you. Is there anyone else to speak for this?
W.S. GARDNER: Yes. I'm W.S. Gardner. I'm President of the
Nassau Point Association. Usually the Association itself doesn't
appear in matters of this kind. We're more concerned with the use
of water and double occupancy on a lot. In this case, we have, I
had to decide how to approach this. We're a next door neighbor in
this case; not very often we are as a next door neighbor. We are.
As President I had to make a decision of how to find out how our
Association felt about it. We have 24 directors on our Board of
Directors, and I circularized them--their opinions on it, and sent
them a sketch of the application. I'm just ~nterested, have you
received any letters from anyone on it from Nassau Point?
SECRETARY: No, there are none.
MR. CHAIRMAN: I don't see any.
MR. GARDNER: I received a few comments. The comments I
received; of course, we don't like to see the zoning rules broken
in any way, but the comments I received I could not take a firm
position for the Association against this granting of this variance.
I couldn't take that position. One of the things I did get comments
on was the fence, there was mentioned in the application, and the
proposed garage, because the fence faces what~I call the wrong way--
usually the good side of the fence faces outside and this good side
faces inside, the bad side is towards our groperty--the garage is
going to be I think 15, 16' high. We will, and I don't imagine
that you have any jurisdiction over this, but I wo~ld like to make
a plea and go on record that I would like to see some sort of plant-
ing along that fence that would hide it, and also as much planting
you can do to hide the garage from our beach. That's the only
thing that I would like to go on record.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you. Mr. Baldwin?
MR. BALDWIN: If the association will give me permission to
plant on the other side, which is association property, it would be
my pleasure to do that because I was going to ask for that anyway.
MR. GARDNER: Ok.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Anyone else to speak for this or against this?
Any questions f~om the Board?
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: The second-story of the building, Mr.
Baldwin, will be used only for storage?
MR. BALDWIN: Absolutely.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Thank you.
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MR. CHAIRMAN: Bob, do you have any questions? Do you have
anything on that garage at all?
~EMBER DOUGLASS: No. He ~old us everything when we were out
there.
MR. CHAIRMAN: He told us the same thing again tonight, so.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: It's a little warmer in here though.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Yeah. It s a little better talking in here
than it was out there that morning.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: I'll make a motion that you close the case
and reserve decision till later.
MR. CHAIRMAN: I'll second that.
closed.
And I'll declare the hearing
On motion by Mr. Douglass, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED, to close the hearing and reserve decision in the
matter of Wilbur A. Baldwin, Appeal No. 2767.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Douglass, Goeh-
ringer and Sawicki. Absent was: Mr. Doyen.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2768. Application of James P.
Latham, 580 Plum Island Lane, Orient, NY for a Variance to the Zoning
Ordinance. Art. III, Sec. 100-31 for permission to construct new dwell-
ing with insufficient sideyards at 1490 Village Lane, Orient, NY;
bounded north and west by G. Latham; south by McNeill; east by Village
Lane. County Tax Map I~em No. 1000-24-2-14.
The Chairman opened the hearing at 8:25 p.m. by reading the
appeal application in its entirety, legal notice of hearing and affi-
davits attesting to its publication in the local and official news-
papers, Notice of Disapproval from the Building In.s,~]ector, and letter
from the Town Clerk that notification to adjoinin~i~roperty owners was
made; fee paid $15.00. '~
MR. CHAIRMAN: We have a survey of the property and a section
of the County Tax Map showing this property and the surrounding proper-
ties. And it shows here that we have a dwelling, a new house built on
a parcel that's 70 feet in width, 144.9 on one side, and 141.40 on the
other. One side of the house, 7 feet on one side and the other side is
17 feet, 17 plus a little bit.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: Not if you count the chimney and stuff.
MR. CHAIRMAN: I guess not. There are two little structures on
the side there, but it doesn't state any sideyard to them. Is there
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anyone here to speak for this?
JAMES LATHAM: My name is James Latham; I'm the applicant. I
would just like to add a little of the background information. Origi-
nally when I put in the foundation, I was sick when the contractor
came and poured it and I wasn't there, and because it's such a small
lots it's a pretty small area to try and fit that house in exactly
right. And he evidently poured it a little too close to the north
side, which I wasn't aware of. And when I went ahead and tarred the
foundation and called the Building Department, and the Inspector came
down and approved it to go ahead and build the house on it. I didn't
become aware to exactly how close it was until we got the final sur-
vey from Mr. Van Tuyl, which is just recently. Had I khown that it
was insufficient at the time just with the foundation in, then I would
have come before the Board at that time before I invested all that
extra money in building the whole house on it.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Yeah, this showsTthe survey made October 17, 1980
by Van Tuyl.
MR. LATHAM: Yeah. Well at that time I didn't realize that I
was going to have to, whether it was too close or exactly what it was.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you. Is there anyone else to speak for this?
Anyone wishing to speak against it? Do you gentlemen have any questions,
Bob, you're familiar with the area. Do you have anything to say about
it? (There was no response from the audience.)
MEMBER DOUGLASS: No I don't have any questions.
MR. CHAIRMAN: I'll make the motion closing the hearing and
reserving decision.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: Seconded.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Douglass, it was
RESOLVED, to close the hearing and reserve decision in the matter
of James P. Latham in Appeal No 2768.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Douglass, Goeh-
ringer and SaWicki. Absent was: Mr, Doyen.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2770. Application of Marianne Weil,
Skunk Lane, Cutchogue, NY (by Rudolph H. Bruer, Esq.) for a Variance
to the Zoning Ordinance, Art. III~ Sec. 100-30(C)(1)(c) and Art. XIV,
Sec. lO0-141(B) for permission to establish home occupation in a resi-
dential area exceeding 30% of the area of one floor of the main building,
and a Variance for Approval of Access, N.Y. Town Law, Sec. 280-A.
Location of property: Right-of-way off the west side of Youngs Avenues
Orient, NY; bounded north by private right-of-way; west by Kroepel; south
.. Southold Town Board of Appeals 12- December 29, 1980
by Reybine; east by High. County Tax MaD Item No. lO00-18-1-10.
The Chairman opened the hearing at 8:35 p.m. by reading the
appeal application in its entirety, legal notice of hearing and affi-
davits attesting to its publication in the local and official news-
papers, Notice of Disapproval from the Building Inspector, and letter
from the Town Clerk that notification to adjoining property owners was
made; fee paid $15.00.
MR. CHAIRMAN: We have a section of the County Tax Map showing
the area and surrounding property, and a sketch of the property show-
ing what exists there now. Mr. Bruer, do you have something to add
to what you have so far?
RUDOLPH H. BRUER, ESQ.: First of all, since then I've gotten a
survey of the premises. (Mr. Bruer handed the Chairman one copy of
survey of property dated December 15, 1980.) It shows it's welt
within the lot. And basically what we d like to do is to break this
structure into a combination residence and art studio. The appeal
of course is fo~ the purposes that the greater part of the area will
be used for the art studio as compared to the residence. Now, what
we propose would be that the residence itself would be approximately
1,000 square feet which is well greater than the minimum requirements
of the ordinance. And we have a sketch here of what we propose to
have as the living area--which is over here, the art, and a storage
room and garage. And the appeal again is basically because this area
exceeds this area under the ordinance, and yet it's not going to hurt
anything in that this, what we have here exceeds the minimum require-
ments of the ordinance and would be appropriate. And it is the type
of function, profession, that wouldn't hur~, would really lend itself
to an occupancy. In the future if anybody ever wanted to change the
use, it would be very simple to actually comply with the ordinance
by increasing this area into this--very possibly taking over the whole
thing, and there wouldn't be a problem or a need for a variance other
than the access. So I think it s a reasonable request. And we
ask that the Board approve the application.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Miss Weil would be living in the residence?
MR. BRUER: Yes. Herself, right.
MR. CHAIRMAN: This would be considered part of the same set up?
MR. BRUER: This is storage.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: Work area, it says.
MR. BRUER: Work area. Correct. But not--
MEMBER DOUGLASS: So it would be part of the --
MR. BRUER: Not of the studio area. Not that type of-- It's
like a cellar where you do your work area, which generally speaking
Southold Town Board of Appeals -13- December 29, 1980
(Mr. Bruer continued):
is considered part of your residence of your house. This is, the appeal,
is from this area here, which will be used ~n a sense of business I
think, this is not being used as a business-type thing (work area). This
is the area that we're appealing from.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: When you say, you're talking this is going to
be display area.
MR. BRUER: It's not going to be display.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: It wouldn't be display-type, retail?
MR. BRUER: No. No retail.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: No retail.
MR. BRUER: No. It's not going to be a retail establishment.
Her works are exhibited in New York. Just to do it. This will not
become a retail establishment.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: May I ask a question. What is the necessity
of going that little amount over the allowable 30%?
MR. BRUER: Well, I would say--
MARIANNE WEIL: Excuse me.
MR. BRUER: Would you like to answer that question?
MISS WEIL: The work area that I'd like to use is about 68% of
the total space, and I think that the allowable area is 30%.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: Um.
MR. BRUER: It's area room creates the light I would assume.
MISS WEIL: Yeah. Oh yeah. I do large paintings.
MR. CHAIRMAN: I'm just wondering. This 68% must include the
garage area.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: No, it doesn't. It doesn't include the
garage area.
MISS WEIL: The 68 doesn't include the garage-storage area.
That's an open area.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: That's right. It's just doors.
MISS WEIL: Yeah.
MR. BRUER: This is open.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -14- December 29, 1980
MEMBER DOUGLASS: I was there when it was moved there. That!s
part of the old Mt. Pleasant House Hotel. Dining room from the old
Mt. Pleasant House Hotel.
MR. CHAIRMAN: He's much older than he appears to be.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: That used to be all wainscote-in-laid wainscote
ceiling.
MISS WEIL:~ That explains'why it looks like a living area.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: No. It was a dining room.
MR. CHAIRMAN: That was kind of a show place years ago.
MISS WEIL: Really.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Orient had some high-class potatoes down there.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: You better believe it. Beans, too.
MR, CHAIRMAN: Any other questions any of you fellows have?
(Negative). I guess that's all.
W.So ]GARDNER: May I ask a question on that? The reason why
I'm asking you. I'm from Nassau Point. We have a, could be tenta-
tively a similar situation on Nassau Point. And I don't think it is--
I hope it's not, where somebody wants to give art lessons in their
home. We've been having complaints about it, we've checked on it.
I understand it's all right to give the lessons in your home if you
don't have more than five people in a lesson. Now, the only reason-
I don't live in Orient, but I don't like to see any precedent set
to hurt us on Nassau Point. And I was just wondering whether this
is a similar situation.
MISS WEIL: I'm not a teacher~,
MR. CHAIRMAN:
MR. GARDNER:
MR. CHAIRMAN:
MR. GARDNER:
She's not teaching. She's just retaining her own--
That was my question,
And her stuff is exhibited and sold in New York.
Ok. That's the answer.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: In her home she is allowed to do what she wants
to do, and she can even have one hired employee. But that's--
MR. GARDNER: I understand. I just wanted to understand that
there wasn't anything that would affect us on Nassau Point.
· MEMBER DOUGLASS: It's called a home business - home occupation
or whatever you want to call it. Where she's supposed to stay within 30%.
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MR. GARDNER:~ Thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone that has anything they want to
say for this? Anyone to speak against it? (There was ho response.)
MEMBER DOUGLASS: I'll make a motion that you close the case
and reserve decision.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Seconded.
MR. CHAIRMAN: It's been regularly moved and seconded to close
the hearing and reserve decision until a little later.
On motion by Mr. Douglass, seconded by Mr. Goehringer, it was
RESOLVED, to close the hearing and reserve decision in the
matter of Marianne Weil in Appeal No. 2770.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Douglass, Goeh-
ringer and Sawicki. Absent was: Mr. Doyen.
RECESSED HEARING: Appeal No. 2674. Application of Roy..C.
Schoenhaar, by Gary Flanner Olsen, Esq., Main Road, Mattituck, NY
for Variances to the Zoning Ordinance: (a) for approval of insuffi-
cient area and width of parcels to be established in a proposed
subdivision, Art. III, Sec. 100-31 and (b) for permission to
reinstate preexisting nonconforming sideyard setback, (c) for
approval of access, New York Town Law Section 280-A. Location of
property: South side of Route 25, Mattituck; bounded north by
Route 25; west by Matt Agency, J~arzombeck, Roth; south by Mellender;
east by Pumillo, Hallock, Steinhart, Jackson, Bilianos; County Tax
Map Item No. 1000-143-2-33.2.
The Chairman reconvened the hearing at 8:50 p.m. Mr. Olsen
agreed to dispense with the reading of the legal notice, and
relevant documents.
MR. CHAIRMAN: This is a~recessed hearing on an application
down in Mattituck. Mr. Olsen, do you have something you want to add
to what we already have on it?
GARY FLANNER OLSEN, ESQ.: Gary Olsen, attorney for the appli-
cant, Roy Schoenhaar. This is a continuation of a hearing which
we had some time ago, and I believe there are at least one new
Board member. So maybe I'll repeat myself a little bit; but I
think perhaps it might be important. This application may appear
to be complicated and perhaps a little difficult on its face, but
actually I don't think it really is. There are basically three
or four things that we're looking for. This is a two-stage applica-
ti/on. One we have to go before the Zoning Board for our variances,
and then we would also go before the Southold Town Planning Board.
.. Southold Town Board of Appeals ~16- December 29, 1980
(Mr. Olsen continued):
And I have an application pending before that Board, in the event
that we're successful here. The first thing that we're looking for--
first of all, it's a four-lot minor subdivision. The property in
question contains 2.587 acres, half approximately of which is zoned
B-1 and the other half which would be the southerly half, which is
zoned residential-agricultural use. We're seeking to get two parcels
in the B-1 zoned area. Parcel No. 1 would have 26,500 square feet,
which is only 3,500 square feet less than what the zoning ordinance
requires in the first place. So as far as the area variance for
Parcel No. I is concerned, it's a minor change from the required
area. We're only 3,500 square feet short. Parcel No.2is also in
the B-t zoned area, and that would have 27,000, which is only 3,000
square feet less than the required square footage. Parcels 3 and 4
are located in the residentially zoned area. They are both interior
parcels. There is no access to those two pieces except through a
proposed right-of-way off of the State Road to these two pieces.
So we're not only looking for area variances, but also for an access
variance. Parcel No. 3 would have the square footage of 23,500 square
feet; and Parcel No. 4 would qave 352500 square feet, which almost
complies with the 402000 square feet of the ordinance. Now~ to get
the access to the two residentially zoned parcels, we need an access
variance under Section 280-A of the Town Law and you will see that
the survey of Van Tuyl, which is submitted with the application,
shows an access of a 20-foot strip of right-of-way to get from the
Main State Road to the interior parcels. I don't know of any occa-
sion that the Zoning Board has denied the access variance. It's
not only a practical difficulty but it's also obviously a real hard-
ship if that application would not be granted, because otherwise
there would be no way that anybody could get to the interior parcels.
Quite frankly it's intended to use the two business-zoned pieces
for what would be permitted under the B-Zone, which is the light
business, basically retail. Mr. Schoenhaar does have a purchaser
for one of the two business parcels; and the whole process of that
sale is contingent upon your approval. If you did not approve this
division and this variance, there would certainly not only be a
practical difficulty but also a real financial hardship ~o Mr.
Schoenhaar.
I might point out that under the B-Light Business use, only
20,000 square feet per parcel is required; and both Parcels 1 and
2 way exceed that.
The other thing that we're looking for due to the shape of
the business-zoned property is a width variance. Parcel No. 1
would have 88,000 square feet and -- I'm sorry, 88 feet frontage
on the Main State Road, and Parcel No. 2 would have frontage of
109 feet.
I have taken ~the time to make a photocopy of the zoning map and
.~ Southold Town Board of Appeals -17- December 29, 1980
(Mr. Olsen continued):
also the tax map, to show that all of the other B-1 zoned parcels on
the Main Road in the vicinity of this piece basically are smaller
and the frontage on the ~ain State Road is a lot less than would be
created on these two parcels. I think the average frontage on the
B-1 parcel on the Main State Road is approximately 70 feet; and I'll
submit this to you for your perusal. (Mr. Olsen submitted a photo-
copy of a small section of the Zoning Map showing the area from
Factory Avenue to Village Lane along the Main State Road.)
I respectfully submit that the granting of not only the area
but the width variances for the two business B-1 zoned parcels would
be in keeping with the general size and shape of the other parcels
within the community; and would not have any adverse effect-- I can't
see any purpose in posing and not granting the variance-in posing
the present zoning regulations doesn't serve any purpose and as a
matter of fact if it wasn't posed it would require Mr. Schoenhaar
to have a business zoned piece which would be way in excess of the
requirements of the Town, and way in excess of the size and shape
and the width of other parcels on the Main State Road in the Matti-
tuck area.
There is presently on Parcel 1 a house, and we would like to
keep the house in its present location, and the proposed easterly
sideyard would be five feet, so we're also asking for a sideyard
variance for the house--the required sideyard under the zoning ordi-
nance is 25, and then again I don't see any reason why the sideyard
variance should not be granted since the house is there presently,
and it doesn't serve any purpose to require the house to be moved
in my opinion.
I'd also like to bring to your attention that the Zoning Board
on July 24, 1980 received a letter from the Suffolk County Department
of Health Services indicating that the water, the underground water
supply appears to be good and of good quality, and also the sewage
disposal conditions appear to be very satisfactory in that area.
You also received a letter from the Suffolk County Department
of Planning dated July 25, 1980, and the comment is that the two
lots in the B-1 District should be developed with common parking
and vehicular access as set forth by the N.Y.S. Department of Trans-
portation's letter, so there does not appear to be any dissatisfaction
on the part of the Suffolk County Department of Planning to this
application.
The Department of Transportation letter of May 13, 1980 also
indicated that the vision in that area is very satisfactory. As a
matter of fact, in the second paragraph, the last sentence it states
that "...at this point the sight distance is excellent in both direc-
tions and vehicle conflicts would be minimal .... "
.~ Southold Town Board of Appeals -18- December 29, 1980
(Mr. Olsen continued):
I'd also like to point out that this is just Step 1. I know
that the Town Board is presently in the process of re-zoning the
small strip in front of this property on the Main State Road to the
widening of the road, and any decision you make will have to be
contingent on that being completed--that the proformer thing should
not be an obstacle to this proceeding; and also we are before the
Planning Board once this Board makes a determinations and of course
before any structure in parking and so on is completed, particularly
in the B-1 area, we would need site plan approval by the Planning
Board.
I respectfully submit that there will be no offense to the
zoning regulations which will occur ~by the granting of our variances.
We cannot provide any additional space on this, particularly in the
B-1 area due to its shape and topography. And I'd also like to
point out that the variances would not alter the use of the property.
That the use would remain the same.
I'd be willing to answer any questions that you might have.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone else that wants to speak for this?
(There was no response.)
MR. OLSEN: Also, obviously before any structure is built on any
of the parcels we would have to comply with the Health Department
requirements as far as sewage disposal and water supply. Because I
know at the last hearing there was some concern by the residents of
the community as to water supply and quality in the water. The Suffolk
County Health letter seems to indicate that's not a problem, but I
don't think that's a concern~of this Board. That's a Health Department
problem.
MR. CHAIRMAN: We have a copy of it in the file.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Is there any parking schedule or anything
that you came up with-
MR. CHAIRMAN: There's this one here.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: No, that's for the Coach Stoppe.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: For the proposed two lots, or the size of-
MR~ OLSEN: That's why I mentioned, before any structure is
put on the business zone~parcels, we would have to get site plan
approval by the Planning Board. I think that's a Planning Board
consideration rather than a Zoning Board matter.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Gary. Is there anyone to speak
against this? Your name please?
Southold Town Board of Appeals -19- December 29, 1980
PAUL ROTH: My name is Path Roth, and I represent the Marlene
Lane Civic Association plus some of the affected taxpayers that live
on Bay Avenue. I think most of the points we had against the grant-
ing of a variance was said at a meeting we had back in March, I
think it was. Maybe I'll just reiterate a few of the more important
ones. As far as the variance that Mr. Schoenhaar is seeking for
the business lots that front Route 25, I think the parking and traf-
fic situation there is already very serious due to the restaurant
being on the south side of Route 25 and the shopping center on the
north side. And even though Mr. Olsen mentioned the line of sight
and the D.O.T. thinks it's adequate, I think these other factors
certainly are very important and they should be considered because
I think they would significantly adversely impact on the general
traffic situation down there now.
Also again, as far as the development to that area, apparently
Mr. Schoenhaar if I understand it right plans on b~inging in one,
and possibly two businesses in-there. I think that again two shop-
ping centers in Mattituck, one being entirely vacant and one being
partially occupied, I think those buildings should be more fully
utilized before new structures are erected on vacant land now.
And as far as the two lots in the ba~k go, the ones that are
currently zoned residential and agricultural use, I'm afraid that
the right-of-way there, one, might pose somewhat of a hazard fire-
wise--it is kind of narrow. I wonder whether fire vehicles would
have trouble entering and leaving the rear lots. They would be set
back quite far from the road and may pose somewhat of a problem.
In addition, a lot of the taxpayers in the area that abut that
property are worried that any children that might live there someday--
instead of taking a long walk down the right-of-way to the Main Road
might just cross through their property and trespass, which is too
strong a word, but may become an annoyance.
I know only a few people tonight could make it--the hour was
late and the time of the year wasn't exactly right for the meeting
tonight. I'd just like to remind you, last time was quite a turnout
from the people in the area who opposed this, and a petition was
submitted to the zoning committee and the feeling is quite strong
against the granting of these variances. Thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you. Anyone else?
GARY OLSEN, ESQ.: I might just say a few things--
MR.CHAIRMAN: Yes.
MR. OLSEN: In answer to what he said. As far as the access is
concerned to the interior parcels, I'd like to point out that we
obviously recognize that the Zoning Board has certain minimum standards
on improvement of the right-of-way, and under your granting the
Section 280-A access variance, we would have to meet those improvement
requirements--as far as the scraping off of the topsoil, bank run, and
~ Southold Town Board of Appeals -20- December 29, 1980
(Mr. Olsen continued:
so on. As far as the trespassers concerned, well, that's, I think,
really an irre-evant ssue. That s like saying, "You shouldn't let
the person build on h s lot next door because their children may
come over into my yard." That's really not a pertinent material
issue in my opinion.
MR. CHAIRMAN: I think somewhere on this sketch it shows a
20-foot right-of-way.
MR. OLSEN: There is a 20-foot right-of-way to the interior
parcels. And also, by the way, Parcels 3 and 4 would be larger
residential parcels than the other parcels in that area. And the
only way they can get access is by the granting of the Section 280-A
access variance. It's a strange piece of property in that half of
it's business, or B-l, and the other half is residential; that's why
we need the access variance.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: Charlie, I'd like to ask a question?
MR. CHAIRMAN: Go right ahead.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: Didn't you when you were quoting the frontages
make a mis-quote before?
MR. OLSEN: I don't know.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: You said 80 feet on one and 100 feet on the
other, that's taking in that 20-foot right-of-way, isn't it?
MR, OLSEN: Well, we own the right-of-way.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: Yes, but the right-Of-way doesnt go into
the business property. It has to be open to the people.
The Parcel No. 1 would have, if you look at
MR. OLSEN: No.
the Van Tuyl survey--
MEMBER DOUGLASS:
I just looked at it.
MR. OLSEN: Parcel No. l, which is one of the business pieces
would have a frontage of 88 feet, which is in excess of most of the
B-1 parcels on the Main Road in MattitJck. Parcel No. 2 would have
frontage of 109 feet--
MEMBER DOUGLASS: Counting the 20-foot right-of-way.
MR. OLSEN: Counting the 20-feet. But the fee title to that
Parcel No. 2 would include the 20-foot right-of-way, but would be
subject to rights of others to get to Parcels 3 and 4. But as far
as frontage is concerned, it can be used because whoever owns Parcel
2 would own the fee title to the 20-foot right-of-way. Do you know
Southold Town Board of Appeals -21- December 29, 1980
(Mr. Olsen continued):
what I'm saying?
MEMBER DOUGLASS: Yes. Is there any time recently that you
have seen cars from the Coach Stoppe parked on that?
MR. OLSEN: No. It's not used for parking. It's overgrown,
and by the way there was some confusion at the first hearing on
the parking issue with the Coach Stoppe. And I have submitted at
your request a parking plan for the Coach Stoppe~ which quite
frankly I didn't feel I should provide because the Coach Stoppe
and the property in question are not contiguous. They are separated
by approximately 25 feet, owned by somebody else. It's an unrelated
issue, and shouldn't be tangled over, mixed up with this application.
In any event I did provide it.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: Yeah, but what you provided wasn't legitimate
parking area.
MR. OLSEN: Well, I provided what we had.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: But not in area per parking place, right?
MR. OLSEN: But the Coach Stoppe piece has nothing to do with
this piece. This piece was purchased au a separate time; it's not
contiguous to the Coach Stoppe property; there is an intervening
landowner. And in my opinion for the Board to get involved with
the requirements for the Coach Stoppe, which is a preexisting situation
with this application is really unfair and ~rrelevant and immaterial.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: Thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: If no one has anything else to add, or any questions~
I'll offer a resolution closing the hearing and reserving decision.
MEMBER SAWICKI: I'll second it.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Sawicki, it was
RESOLVED, to close the hearing and reserve decision in the'matter
of Roy C. Schoenhaar, Appeal No. 2674.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Douglass, Goeh-
ringer and Sawicki. Absent was: Mr. Doyen.
The Chairman called a recess for five minutes at 9:10 p.m.
The Meeting was reconvened at 9:16 p.m.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -22- December 29, 1980
RECESSED HEARING: Appeal No. 2684. Application of North~ork
Motel, Inc., by Sam Rodland as agent, 55 Pilgrim Path, Huntington,
NY 11743, for a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Article VII, Section
100-70 for permission to change existing motel use to privately-owned
units (or condominium) use in a B Zone. Location of property: Corner
of County Road 27 and Sobndview Avenue, Southold, NY; bounded north by
Soundview Avenue, east by C.R. 27 and Soundview Avenue, south by C.R.
27, west by Main, Kemper, Zech, and Larson. County Tax Map Item No.
1000-135-2-23.
The Chairman reconvened the hearing at 9:16 p.m.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Price?
WILLIAM PRICE, JR., ESQ.: £ would like to present to the Board
an Amended Appeal with the original Notice given to the adjoining
property owners. Thank you very much.
SECRETARY: Did you check at all with the Town Attorney to see
whetNer or not this had to be filed through the Town Clerk's Office?
MR. PRICE: I did not find out.
SECRETARY: I believe amended applications are usually filed
through her office--and whether you want to withdraw the original--
MR. PRICE: I don't want to withdraw the other one.
happy to pay any additional filing fees that are required.
all I want to do tonight.
I would be
That's
MR. CHAIRMAN: For the time being we just set the original one
in abeyance?
MR. PRICE: That s right, until you decide, I believe you have
to re-notice this whole matter because of the additional grounds set
forth in that petition.
SECRETARY: This appeal is only for part of the property and not
for the whole--
MR. PRICE: The both decisions.
(Audience asked those speaking to speak so they could hear in
the back.)
MR. PRICE: I have just stated that I have submitted an Amended
Petition on behalf of my clients. We are now discussing whether or
not I have to pay an additional filing fee, which I have agreed to do
if the event is required, Secondly, I am just explaining to the
Secretary of the Board that I am by this Petition appealing the origi-
nal decision of the Building Inspector, which stated a condominium use
was prohibited, and secondly the subsequent decision of the Building
Inspector, whereby the applicant had applied for a Certificate of
Southold Town Board of Appeals :23- December 29, 1980
(Mr, Price continued):
Occupancy for a motel room as a motel room,'and that was denied.
MR. CHAIRMAN: I imagine most of you people in here are here
on the North Fork Motel situation, Can I read this to them, Bill,
if you don't mind?
MR. PRICE: I don't mind. You can do whatever you want with it.
MR, CHAIRMAN: This is the appeal that he was just talking about
right now. I'll read the thing in its entirety.
(The Chairman read the four-page "Amended Appeal from Decision
of Building Inspector dated December 29, 1980" in its entirety.)
LADY FROM AUDIENCE: What are they actually asking for. When
will this be held again?
MR. SCHONDEBARE: They have just learned about what's in here
for the first time and I think they will have to publish it and give
notice.
SAME LADY: What are they actually saying?
MR. SCHONDEBARE: I think you people will have to read it in
the newspaper to figure it out.
LADY: This hasn't been published?
MR. CHAIRMAN: This right now is not a legal application, today,
in that it hasn't been filed with the Town Clerk and--
MRS. ALICE LARSON: They are asking to have them sold individually?
The same as they were before, a room rather than a condominium?
MR. CHAIRMAN: Well I don't know whether we can talk about that
right now.
MR. KEM~NER: Can we talk about the initial application?
MRS, HENRY KELLY: If it makes any difference, we are residents
of Golden Lane, which is the street behind the motel, and we have
kind of a vested interest in what happens to the area, 'cause we re
there 13 years as residents. And we don't want to see it go to single
units and having 40 families in one little hotel unit. We want it to
go on record, I'm sure all of us are in agreement here, as opposing
whatever the former application was. I'm not even going to discuss
even tonight, I realize that it has to be discussed later, we want it
to go on record as opposing the units being sold one room per buyer.
SECRETARY: Your name please, ma'am?
Southold Town Board of Appeals -24- December 29, 1980
MRS. KELLY: Mrs. Henry Kelly, 3 Golden Lane.
MR. CHAIRMAN: I think that many of you~ probably all of you were
here at one time or another before on this thing, so--
MRS. KELLY: It's our first time here tonight.
MR. CHAIRMAN: The only thing I could say now is you'll have to
watch the paper and see when this is going to be set UP for a hearing.
UNKNOWN LADY: Well, can't we be notified as long as we're here
now, as long as we can't discuss the presentation tonight. Can't
you take down our names and addresses?
SECRETARY: It will be advertised in the newspapers and you could
always call the office Monday through Friday.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Actually the only thing that we could take testimony
on tonight would be on the original application.
UNKNOWN LADY: We're addressing ourselves to'that.
SECRETARY:
the date.
You could always call the office and we'll give you
LADY: Fine.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Well, we can take their testimony on the old one
if they have something they want to add to what they said before on
the original application. We'll make it a part on the original
application.
MR. K.EMPNER: Are the adjacent property owners supposed
to be notified. So we have not been notified on this latest-
MR. PRICE: The notice was sent to you today. I'm not going
to talk about the new application, But if you were one of the ad-
joining property owners, a certified letter went out to you this
afternoon.
SECRETARY: May I have your name, please, sir?
MR. KEMPNER: Kempner.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Does anyone want to add anything to what they
said on the original one. It has nothing to do with the one that
will be coming up.
MRS. KELLY: I'd like to add a little bit more. ~Mrs. Kelly again.
We are adjacent to the North Fork Motel, and since we lived on Golden
Lane we also own a few feet of the property on Long Island Sound. And
it has been very difficult'with the traffic that arrives every Summer
Southold Town Board of Appeals -25- December 29, 1980
(Mrs. Kelly continued):
witq the business, I~mean, with the people that arrive at the Motel.
And I'm wondering what it's going to be like if we have one family
per room, not only buying into the motel but also using the 50 or
whatever feet they have of beach now. We've had to on occasion call
the police, to kindly have people not camp upon our beach. We feel
if we're taxpayers of Southold, and we own the property on the beach,
we feel we have a right not to have people encroach upon our private
property which is the beachfront, too. Now we're very concerned about
if they're going to sell these areas as one room for a buyer, what
are we letting into the area? We're very concerned. We have a big
investment in this area--we're there 13 years. And it has grown, it
has gotten to look very prosperous, very nice-looking. We re just
wondering what's going to happen to our investment. That's my concern.
JULIA FULY: It's going to be a common beach?
MR. CHAIRMAN: The beach and whatever rights they have now probably.
It would be the same.
MRS. KELLY: The same problem, only multiplied by 40, times how
many in a room.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Price, will there be beach rights on the
original application?
MS. FULY: How many feet of beach?
MR. PRICE: I don't know. About 50.
MRS. KEMPNEt: Can I ask you something? Now who controls--now
you have a corporation or whatever it is, a partnership, owning that
motel controlling what happens in that area. Who is going to be the
controlling factor once you sell each one of the those, if you do.
Each one of those.rooms to individuals--who controls 'them? Who con-
trols the whole area? Who controls the beach area? Who patrols it;
who cleans up? Everybody just goes and does their own thing, throws
garbage over in my backyard? You know? And also, I also think that
any kind of a business property should be separated from private
property, with some kind of fence or barrier. Isn't that true? If
there's parking right there--there's usually some kind in the ordi-
nance. I don't know. I think there ~s, that there should be a
separation between private property and business property. Shouldn't
they? There isn't. My yard backs right up into the motel's parking
lot. I'm Mrs. Kempner; I'm right by the--
MR. CHAIRMAN: I've got an idea just where you are.
MRS. KEMPNER: So, you know, I want to know who is going to
control all this, this mass amount of people, each one having their
own private little thing. Who controls ~t?
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MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Mrs. Kempner, to answer your question, at
this particular time t don't think we've gotten any testimony on
these gentlemen on exactly what will happen. I would assume, and
I'm not here to make any determination on this, you have a gentleman
here from the Nassau Point Associations I would assume an association
would be set up. We have no knowledge of that at_this particular time.
MRS. KEMPNER: And Is also as an environmentalist, would like to
know exactly how many people will be in each one of these unitss and
how much water will be drawns and how much sewage will be put into
the cesspool, and what that cesspool could hold. I want to know all
of the facts for something like this. An adjoining piece of property
is just loaded with someone's investment to get whatever they can get
out of it ( ) with the resident. That I would like to know.
MR. CHAIRMAN: That's something the Health Department will have
to settle.
MRS. KEMPNER:
it, too.
MR. CHAIRMAN:
Anyone else?
Definitely. I want the Health Department in on
They'll be in on it, no matter what happens.
MR. FRANCIS RIZZO: Is all this going to be spelled out somewhere
on what they propose, whether these are going to be summer residences
or whether they're going to be yearround residences, whether, if it is
a permanent residence will they have kitchen facilities? In other
words--
MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Price.
MR. PRICE: I can talk about that. And I've gone'over it once
before. These are not to be dwelling units. These are not to be
units for people who live in the units as residents, a living unit,
a dwelling unit, whatever you want to call it. They are to be motel
rooms, to be used as a motel room would be used and that's all. We
are not planning on putting cooking facilities in, nor would the
individuals be permitted to put kitchen facilities in. I don't, you
know, I get the feeling that everyone is assuming that the people
that would be coming in are going to be lawbreakers. That's the
wrong--
AUDIENCE: No. (Out of order and could not pick up statements.)
MRS. LARSEN: The people that live there now never go out to
eat, in the last many summers. They keep their coffee pots; they
keep their sandwiches. They have a hibachi where they cook there,
and that's the way they live. And you can't tell me they're going
to change any of this. They do their cooking there.
MRS. FRANCES RIZZO: I live right in back of the motel and I
have them all summer on my beach, and they do anything they want to
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(Mrs. Rizzo continued):
do and we can't do anything about it.
MS. ANN AMIAGA: I have a piece of property adjacent to the
motel beach--
MR. CHAIRMAN: Your name please, ma'am?
MS. AMIAGA: Ann Amiaga. A small strip of 40' between my
property and the motel beach~ and there is no way-- we don't even
go there during the summer. Never on the weekends, occasionally
during the week. They just are uncontrollable, and if you ask them
to leave. I mean, I pay the taxes~ they don't. If we ask them to
leave, or move themselves down to the motel beach, they become ar-
rogant, they curse. I mean, I don't want my children growing up
and listening. I bought this for the enjoyment of my family, and
we can't enjoy it. And if these people are going to be owners; they
are going to take over more than they take over as a motel tenant.
MRS. KELLY: I would like to add to that, because this has been
our problem for 13 years being on the beach. A family will rent one
of the mo.tel units, and they have about 20 people using the motel
room. They bring the boats, they rent the boats from the Southold
Fishing Station for whatever they do. The boats are on our beach~
they are casting the lines over our heads, and we have children. We're
very much concerned. Why should we give up our private property for
a business venture next door? We moved to Southold for the peace and
tranquility of this areas and if we have to put up with 40 families
with 10 people per unit, and the friends and relatives, what are we
opening ourselves up to? That's what I wanted to ask. I think it's
tremendous if the Town is considering granting them this permission to
do it.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Anyone else? I'll decare this--
MR. HENRY KELLY: Could we have the group go on record represent-
ing what they have just said--we all agree with them. I didn't say
it for myself specifically. We want it saying, including these ladies
in. the back, I want my name added to the list.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Your name, sir?
MR. KELLY: Henry Kelly.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Anyone else want their name going down?
JAMES FOLLY: James Folly.
MR. CHAIRMAN: I'll declare the hearing closed -- no, just
recessed. Thank you for coming in. I don't know if we can set a
date for this. We'll have to check out whether it's going to be
continuing the application, and it will be published in the papers,
and that s the only way.
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LADY: In the Mattituck paper?
SECRETARY: Long Island Traveler-Watchman--
MR. CHAIRMAN' And the Suffolk Times,
GENTLEMAN: Is this usually an evening meeting or what, because
we travel a great distance to get here. I wouldn't want it to be
11:00 on a Tuesday morning or something.
MR. CHAIRMAN: No, no.
SECRETARY: Night meeting.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: We're night owls.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Most of us have to struggle and work, too--
LADY: Work, too.
MR, CHAIRMAN: Thank you very much for coming in, but that's
very much what the situation is right now. It's recessed indefinitely
until we find out when this one goes on, and then we'll take it up
from there again.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Seconded.
MR. KELLY: Will the objections that we had made and the statements
we had made be put into that statement?
MR. CHAIRMAN: It's all part of the record.
MR, KELLY: In the event we can't reappear.
MR~ CHAIRMAN: Everything you said tonight, even i'f you said
something not nice maybe.
MR. SCHONDEBARE: T~e objections that they raised tonight are
with regards to the previous application. You got a new application.
Are you going to carry over their objections to the new application?
MR. CHAIRMAN: No. They jus~ pertain to the original application,
MR. SCHONDEBARE: So you realize your objections only pertain
to the old application, and not the new application.
LADY: We have to come in again.
MR. SCHONDEBARE: They have to come in and register again.
MR. : May I ask a stupid question? What's the differ-
ence in the two applications?
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December 29, 1980
MR. SCHONDEBARE: That's what he just read. The long thing
he just read. Three pages.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: Mr. Price?
MRS.
to a private--
It was terminology of a motel room as opposed
MR. CHAIRMAN: Excuse me. Excuse me.
MR. PRICE: Mr. Douglass has a question for me.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: My question is to you to answer what he just
said, in stopping the carryover of their testimony. Are you asking
for a new application or just an amendment to this one?
MR. PRICE: It's an amendment to this one, which couples in a
new item.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: Yeah, so it's the same application?
MRo PRICE: Partly.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: Still the same application with'an amendment?
MR. CHAIRMAN: Right. The amendment is new.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: So if that's the way you would put it, I would
say their testimony would carry over. If you are putting in a new
application, which may well be the case that you have to, we'll have
to find out-- then it wouldn't carry over.
MR. SCHOENDEBARE: Well I would like to agree with you and have
their testimony carry over onto the applications as against it. Are
you telling me that you're all going to vote and say yes it is, or
no it's not, so these people will know one way or the other. I mean
tonight, otherwise we're not going to know at all.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: You can't.
MR. CHAIRMAN: No.
MRS. : Are our objections going to be carried over because
this is not a new application, but only the application with an amend-
ment, like this gentleman says, the lawyer?
MR. CHAIRMAN: Whatever has been said today is.in the record, and
that'll stay there.
MRS. : No, but I mean, when this application, when we get,
we'll get it when we go home--he said it was sent out today--we'll get
it this week. Now, do we have to come back again to restate these
objections as this, assuming this is a new application. This isn't
though. It's the same application.
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MEMBER DOUGLASS: We don't know whether that can be or not though
yet.
MR. SCHONDEBARE: It wou]_.d ~e_v.e~.y nice if you all did come back
again. You can write letters. Being here orally, expressing here is
much better.
MR. J. FOLLY: The notice that we get in the mail, does that
describe the whole thing?
MEMBER DOUGLASS: It will tell you if it's a new application, the
paper will, because if it s a new application it will have a new number.
That if it has the old number, it s just part of the old application.
MEMBER SAWICKI: Aye.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Aye.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Aye.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: Aye.
The hearing was declared closed.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Goehringer, it was
RESOLVED, that the hearing be recessed, and the ~egal advertise-
ment for a new date be advertised in both the Suffolk Times and
Long Island Traveler-Watchman when appropriate.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Douglass, Goeh-
ringer and Sawicki. Absent was: Mr. Doyen.
RESERVED DECISION: Appeal No. 2765. Application of Peter V.
Izzo, 919 Harlane Circle, North Bellmore, NY 11710, for a Variance to
the Zoning Ordinance, Art. III~ Sec. 100-31 for approval of insuffi-
cient area and width of two proposed parcels located at the west side
of Pine Tree qoad, Cutchogue, ~Y; more particularly known as Lots 34
and 35A, Map of Nassau Farms, Map No. 1179; County Tax Map Item No.
1000-104-2-9 and 10.
The findings and determination of the Board are as follows:
Appellant has appealed to this Board seeking a variance for per-
mission to divide a flag-shaped parcel, containing approximately
30,200 square feet in area, into two parcels, 10,015 approximately
and 20,200 square feet approximately, with insufficient road frontages
of 70 feet along Pine Tree Road. Existing on proposed Parcel 35A is
a one-family dwelling, and immediately west of same is a neighboring
one-family dwelling.
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Article III, Section lO0-31 and Bulk Schedule of the Code
requires a minimum area of 40,000 square feet and a minimum width
(road frontage) of 150 feet. The Board finds that the relief
requested is substantial in relation to the Code requirements~
that if the variance is granted substantial detriment to adjoining
properties will be created inasmuch as the area is very congested;
that a substantial change will be produced in the character of the
neighborhood; and that the interests of justice will not be served
by the granting of the relief requested herein.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED, that Peter V. Izzo s application for a variance
dated December 1, 1980 be denied without prejudice.
Location of Property: West side o~ Pine Tree Road, Cutchogue,
New York; more particularly known as Lots 34 and 35A, Map of
Nassau Farms No. 1179; County Tax Map Item No. 1000-104-2-9 and 10.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Douglass, Goeh-
ringer and Sawicki. Absent was: Mr. Doyen'.
RESERVED DECISION: Appeal No. 2769. Application of Nicholas D.
Yuelys, 6159 Broadway, Bronx, NY 10471 for a Variance to the Zoning
~nce' Art. III, Sec. 100-32 for permission to construct accessory
building in the frontyard area at 56005 C.R. 27 (28), Greenport, NY;
bounded north by L.I, Sound; west by Candan; south by C.R. 27 (North
Road); east by Atwan; County Tax Map Item No. 1000-44-1-19.
The findings and determination of the Board are as follows:
Appellant has appealed to this Board seeking a variance to con-
struct accessory storage building in the frontyard area approximately
13 north of the North Road and two feet from the easterly property
line. The premises in question is approximately 6,500 sq. ft. in are~
and existing on same is a one-story frame house with porch. Upon
inspection the Board found the easterly neighboring property to have
a structure(s) built right up to this side line. The Board recognizes
appellant's need for a storage area, however are not in agreement with
the sole location requested in the within application.
The Board finds that a detriment to adjoining properties will be
created if the variance is granted as applied for; that a substantial
change in the character of the neighborhood will be produced; and
that the interests of justice will not be served by the granting of
the relief requested herein.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Goehringer, it was
RESOLVED, that Nicholas D. Yuelys' application for a variance
dated December 3, 1980 be denied without prejudice, as applied for.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -32- December 29, 1980
Location of Property: 56005 C.R. 27, Greenport, NY; bounded
north by L.I. Sound; west by Candan; south by C.R. 27 (North Road);
east by Atwan; County Tax Map Item No. 1000-44-1-19.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Douglass, Goeh-
ringer and Sawicki. Absent was: Mr. Doyen.
RESERVED DECISION: Appeal No. 2767. Application of Wilbur A.
Baldwin, 1725 Nassau Point Road, Cutchogue, NY for a Variance to the
Zoning Ordinance, Art. III, Sec. 100-31 for permission to construct
attached garage with an insufficient sideyard setback at 1725 Nassau
Point Road, Cutchogue, NY; more particularly known as Nassau Point
Club Properties Lot No. 1; County Tax Map Item No. 1000-104-13-2~4.
The findings and determination of the Board are as follows:
Appellant has appealed to this Board seeking a variance for per-
mission to construct an attoched garage in the front-side yard area
with a setback of two feet from the northerly sideyard line. Exist-
ing on the subject premises is a one-story one,family frame dwelling.
The premises in question has an area of 29~150' square feet, approxi-
mately 340 feet deep and an average width Of 120 feet. The Board
recognizes appellant's need for storage area; however it is the feel-
ing of the Board that the project proposed herein is not the most
feasible location, thereby not warranting justification for the
granting of the within variance.
The Board finds that the relief requested in relation to the
Code requirements is substantial; that if the variance is granted
as applied for a substantial detriment to adjoining properties will
be created and that a substantial change will be produced in the
character of the neighborhood; and that the interests of justice
will not be served by the granting of the relief requested herein.
On motion by Mr. Douglass, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED, that the application of Wilbur A. Baldwin in Appeal
No. 2767 be denied without prejudice as applied for.
Location of Property: 1725 Nassau Point Road, Cutchogue~ NY;
more particularly known as Nassau Point Club Properties Lot No. 1;
County Tax Map Item No. 1000-104-13-2.4.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Douglass, Goeh-
ringer and Sawicki. Absent was: Mr. Doyen.
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RESERVED DECISION: Appeal No. 2768. Application of James ?.
Latham, 580 Plum Island Lane, Orient, NY for a Variance to the Zoning
Ordinance, Art. III, Sec. t00-31 for permission to construct new
dwelling with insufficient sideyards at 1490 Village Lane, Orient,
NY; bounded north and west by G. Latham; south by McNeill; east by
Village Lane; County Tax MaD Item No. 1000-24-2-14.
The findings and determination of the Board are as follows:
On December 3, 1980 appellant appealed to this Board seeking a
variance for approval of the construction of a one-story, one-family
dwelling with insufficient sideyards, 7', more or less from the
northeasterly property line and 17', more or less from the south-
westerly property line. Due to an oversight, misunderstanding or
error, the subject dwelling has ~een fully constructed and appellant
was unable to obtain a Certificate of Occupancy for same until an
application had been made for a variance as applied for herein.
Upon inspection the Board found that the subject dwelling does
conform with those in the surrounding neighborhood; that the relief
requested in relation to the Code requirements is not substantial;
that if the variance is granted no substantial detriment to adjoin-
ing properties will be created; that no adverse effect is produced
on available governmental facilities of any increased population;
that no substantial change is produced in the character of the
neighborhood; that the difficulty cannot be obviated by some method
feasible for the appellant to pursue, other than a variance; and
that the interests of justice will be served by granting the variance
conditionally and as applied~for as specified below.
On motion by Mr. Douglass, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED, that James P. Latham be granted a variance to the
zoning ordinance, Art. III, Sec. 100-31 approving the construction
of a new dwelling with insufficient sideyards as applied for and
SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITION:
That no further protrusion in either of the sideyards be
permitted.
Location of Property: 1490 Village Lane, Orient, ~Y; bounded
north and west by G. Latham; south by McNeill; east by Village
Lane; County Tax Map Item No. 1000-24-2-14.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Douglass, Goeh-
ringer and Sawicki. Absent was: Mr. Doyen.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -34- December 29, 1980
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Douglass, it was
RESOLVED, that the minutes of the November 20, 1980 Regular
Meeting of this Board be approved and filed with the Town Clerk.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Douglass, Goeh-
ringer and Sawicki. Absent was: Mr. Doyen.
On motion by Mro Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED, that the minutes of the December 4, 1980 Regular
Meeting of this Board be approved and filed with the Town Clerk.
Vote oS the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Goehringer and
Sawicki. Absent was: Mr. Doyen. Mr. Douglass abstained.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Sawicki, it was
RESOLVED, that the minutes of the December 12, 1980 Special
Meeting of this Board be approved and filed with the Town Clerk.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Douglass, Goeh-
ringer and Sawicki. Absent was: Mr. Doyen.
NEW APPEAL: Appeal No. 2772. Application of Emanuel M. Kontokosta,
43 West 54th Street, New York, NY 10019 (by Richard F. Lark, Esq.) for
a Special ExcePtion to the Zoning Ordinance, Art. V, Sections 100-50-
B(2) and (3) and C(2) for approval of a 58-boat marina approximately
420 feet long, 120 feet wide and 9 feet deep, with a 50-foot wide access
into the bay; deletion of all the 21 motel units in lieu of 20 resi-
dential units for a total of 48 units; the addition of a swimmingpool;
new locations for the westerly residential units and accessory building
to be located at the head of the marina so it can be effectively utilized
as a coffee shop, maintenance shop and offices for the complex. Location
of property: West side of Shipyard Lane, East Marion, New York; County
Tax Map ID. No. lO00-38-7-part of Lot 4.
Upon reviewing the new appeal application, the Board finds that
the premises in question is located in a V-5 Coastal High Hazard Flood
Zone, and therefore request the following additional information:
(1) Six additional copies of the survey/site plan showing the
contour elevation of the property;
(2) Three surveys showing the proposed lowest floor ]cellar,
basement slab, crawl space, etc.] elevation from mean sea level~
In addition to the above, the Board requests the following documentation
Southold Town Board of Appeals -35- December 29, 1980
in order to determine the file complete and prior to scheduling this
matter for a public hearing:
(1) Copies of all permits and approvals from the N.Y.S. Department
of Environmental Conservation and County Health Department;
(2) Letter from the Southold Town Planning Board in effect stating
that they do or do not concur with the Amended Site Plan proposed;
(3) Long Environmental Assessment Form.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Sawicki, it was
RESOLVED, that the Chairman be authorized and directed to forward
a letter to the applicant's attorney requesting the above information.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Douglass, Goeh-
ringer and Sawicki. Absent was: Mr. Doyen.
Appeal No. 2729. Application of William C. Mercurio, et al.
Location of Property: East side of Bay Avenue, Mattituck, NY.
NEGATIVE DECLARATION NOTICE OF NO SIGNIFICANT EFFECT UPON THE
ENVIRONMENT:
WHEREAS, applicants qave submitted an environmental assessment in
the short form which indicates that no adverse effects were likely to
occur to the environment; and
WHEREAS, this Board acknowledges receipt of a Tidal Wetlands
Permi~ No. TW 15275-0150 from the N.Y.S. Department of Environmental
Conservation concerning the within project dated December 8, 1980;
WHEREAS, this Board acknowledges receipt of correspondence from
the Suffolk County Department of Health Services indicating that
conditions are suitable for an individual sewage disposal system,
that the water quality in the area is questionable;
On Motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Goehringer,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that in Appeal No. 2729, appli-
cation of William C. Mercurio and others for a Variance for approval
of insufficient area and width of two proposed parcels located at
the East side of Bay Avenue, Mattituck, NY (1000-144-4-4),
this Board determines that this project, if implemented as planned
herein is classified as a Type II Action, no~ having a significant
adverse effect upon the environment; and pursuant to the N.Y.S.
Environmental Quality leview Act (SEQRA), Sections 617.13 and 617.5(a),
and the Southold Town Code, Section 44-4, no further determination or
procedure is required in the SEQRA standards of process by this depart-
ment. [This declaration should not be considered a determination made
Southold Town Board of Appeals -36- December 29, 1980
for any other department or agency which may also be involved or any
other project not covered by this application.]
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Douglass, Goehringer
and Sawicki. Absent was: Mr. Doyen.
Appeal No. 2771. Application of Florence A. Evans.
Location of Property: 2355 Anchor Lane (a/k/a 650 Brigantine
Drive), Southold, NY.
NEGATIVE DECLARATION NOTICE OF NO SIGNIFICANT EFFECT UPON THE
ENVIRONMENT:
WHEREAS, applicant has submitted an environmental assessment in
the short form which indicates that no adverse effects were likely to
occur to the environment for the project proposed herein; and
WHEREAS, the premises in question is not located within 300 feet
of tidal wetlands, and therefore would not require permits from
the N.Y.S. Department of Environmental Conservation pursuant to Sec-
tions 661.4(b)(1) and 661.7 of Article 25 of the Environmental Conser-
vation Law;
On motion by Mr. Grigonis , seconded by Mr. Goehringer,
NOW, THEREFORE, IT IS RESOLVED, that in Appeal No. 2771, appli-
cation of Florence A. Evans for a Variance for permission to construct
new dwelling with an insufficient frontyard setback of 35 , property
known as 2355 Anchor Lane (a/k/a Brigantine Drive), Southold, New York,
this Board determines that this project, if implemented as planned
herein is classified as a Type II Action, not having a significant
adverse effect upon the environment; and pursuant to the NoY.S.
Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA), Sections 617.13 and 617.5(a),
and the Southold Town Code, Section 44-4, no further determination or
procedure is required in the SEQRA standards of process by this depart-
ment. [This declaration should not be considered a determination made
for any other department or agency which may also be involved or any
other project not covered by this application.]
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Douglass, Goehringer
and Sawicki. Absent was: Mr. Doyen.
Appeal No. 2774. Application of Bernice Lettieri.
Location of Property: 1430 Arrowhead Lane, Peconic, New York.
NEGATIVE DECLARATION - NOTICE OF NO SIGNIFICANT EFFECT UPON THE
ENVIRONMENT:
WHEREAS, applicant has submitted an environmental assessment in
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the short form which indicates that no adverse effects were likely to
occur to the environment for the project proposed herein; and
WHEREAS, the premises in question is not located within 300 feet
of tidal wetlands, and therefore would not require permits from
the q.Y.S. Department of Environmental Conservation pursuant to Sec-
tions 661.4(b)(1) and 661.7 of Article 25 of the Environmental Conser-
vation Law;
On motion by Mr. Grigonis , seconded by Mr. Goehringer,
NOW, THEREFORE, IT IS RESOLVED, that in Appeal No, 2774, appli-
cation of Bernice Lettieri for a Variance for permission to construct
tennis court with an insufficient setback, occupying more than 40% of
rearyard area, and to construct same within sideyard area of property
known as 1430 Arrowhead Lane, Peconic, NY, County ID. #1000-98-2-10,
this Board determines that this project, if implemented as olanned
herein is classified as a Type II Action, not having a significant
adverse effect upon the environment; and pursuant to the N.Y.S.
Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA), Sections 617.13 and 617.5(a),
and the Southold Town Code, Section 44-4, no further determination or
procedure is required in the SEQRA standards of process by this depart-
ment. ]This declaration should not be considered a determination made
for any other department or agency which may also be involved or any
other project not covered by this application.]
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Douglass, Goehringer
and Sawicki. Absent was: Mr. Doyen.
Appeal No. 2775. Application of Charles A. Brautigam.
Location of Property: West Road, Cutchogue, New York.
NEGATIVE DECLARATION - NOTICE OF NO SIGNIFICANT EFFECT UPON THE
ENVIRONMENT:
WHEREAS, applicant has submitted an environmental assessment in
the short form which indicates that no adverse effects were likely to
occur to the environment for the project proposed herein; and
WHEREAS, applicant represents there is a substantial, functional
bulkhead constructed along the water-lying edge of this property at
least 100 feet in length;
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Goehringer,
NOW, THEREFORE, IT IS RESOLVED, that in Appeal No. 2775, appli-
cation of Charles A. Brautigam for an amendment to a previous decision
of this Board made on 9/28/78 in Appeal No. 2471 to permit the con-
struction of an accessory building (garage) with rooms, and (b) to
review determinations made by the Building Inspector concerning this
accessory building which includes a garage with rooms in the frontyard
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area of property located at West Road, Cutchogue, New York,
this Board determines that this project, if implemented as planned
herein is classified as a Type II Action, not having a significant
adverse effect upon the environment; and pursuant to the N.Y.S.
Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA), Sections 617.13 and 617.5(a),
and the Southold Town Code, Section 44-4, no further determination or
procedure is required in the SEQRA standards of process by this depart-
ment. [This declaration should not be considered a determination made
for any other deoartment or agency which may also be involved or any
other project not covered by this application.]
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Douglass, Goehringer
and Sawicki. Absent was: Mr. Doyen.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Goehringer, it was
RESOLVED, that the following appeals be scheduled and advertised
for public hearings to be held at the next regular meeting of this
Board, to wit, January 22, 1981:
7:35 p.m.
7:50 p.m.
8:00 p.m.
8:15 p.m.
Application of William C. Mercurio and others for
approval of insufficient area and width of two
proposed oarcels at the east side of Bay Ave, Matt.
Application of Florence A. Evans for permission to
construct new dwelling with an insufficient front-
yard setback at 2355 Anchor Lane (a/k/a 650 Brigan-
tine Drive), Southold, NY.
Application of Bernice Lettieri for permission to
construct tennis court with insufficient yard setback,
occupying more than 40% of rearyard area, and to
construct tennis court in sideyard area at 1430
Arrowhead Lane, Peconic, NY.
Application of Charles A. Brautigam to amend
previous decision of this Board for accessory
building with rooms in frontyard area at West
Road, Cutchogue, NY.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Douglass, Goeh-
ringer and Sawicki. Absent was: Mr. Doyen.
On motion by Mr. Sawicki, seconded by Mr. Gri§onis, it was
RESOLVED, to schedule and re-advertise the matter of North Fork
Motel, Inc., Appeal No. 2684 for the February 12, 1981 Regular
Meeting of this Board.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Douglass, Goeh-
ringer and Sawicki. Absent was: Mr. Doyen.
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December 29, 1980
The Board tentatively agreed to follow-up on inspections
on the new matters forthcoming for Saturday, January 17, 1981,
and at which time they agreed to make their deliberations and
findings in the matter of the Fanny Behlen ,Community Health
Center, Appeals No. 2736 and 2752.
Upon reviewing the new appeal application of Joseph D. Pisciolla,
Sr. (by Richard F. Lark, Esq.), the Board decided not to schedule
same for a public hearing until such time as they have had an oppor-
tunity to inspect the property and make an Environmental Declaration
pursuant to the Environmental Quality Review Act.
The Chairman declared the meeting closed at approximately ll:O0
'clock p.m.
Respectfully submitted~
Linda F. Kowalski
Secretary
Southold Town Board of Appeals